Seth Green | Club Random with Bill Maher

Summary

Club Random with Bill Maher: Seth Green

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of Club Random brings together Bill Maher and actor/comedian Seth Green for an off-the-cuff, wide-ranging late-night conversation. The duo touch on their shared history in Hollywood, navigating fame from youth, generational trends, the evolution of pop culture (with a focus on 90s nostalgia), the pitfalls of social media, and the peculiarities of child stardom. There’s a strong undercurrent of mutual respect, humor, and candid reflection about how radically both show business and society have changed in their lifetimes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Reconnecting and Reflecting on Hollywood Life

• The episode opens with Maher and Green reminiscing about their last encounter at Hollywood parties and events, highlighting the ever-changing celebrity social scene.
• They joke about their extended absence from each other and reflect on run-ins at Seth MacFarlane's birthday and industry award shows.
  • Quote:
    “Seth and I, who I adore so much... we once had a screaming match in the middle of the tower bar over dinner about this. But that's what friends do. Real friends talk and sometimes yell, and then you come back to loving.” — Bill Maher [02:36]

2. Cannabis, Contraband, and Old-School Rebellion

• A lively exchange about Maher’s home-grown weed and the history of pot culture, including references to Woody Harrelson’s hemp activism.
• They riff on changes in pot legality and share colorful memories of the 90s underground scene.
  • Quote:
    “You can't use it to get high without a lot of chemical processing.” — Seth Green [04:59]

3. Social Media, Civil Discourse & Modern Divisiveness

• Seth points out how current culture is plagued by “reacting, not reflecting,” and bemoans the loss of civil debate amplified by social media.
• Bill acknowledges his job forces him into public discourse, while Seth prefers private skepticism.
  • Quote:
    “I think I just recognized before everybody was sort of toxified by social media in general or empowered to speak their most immediate reaction without any kind of... speak your truth. But even more just, like, react. Just react.” — Seth Green [05:31]

4. Child Stardom: Surviving & Thriving

• Seth offers a candid account of his unusual trajectory as a child actor: always working, never too famous, which he credits for his stability.
• They discuss the negative outcomes for child stars—fame without wealth, lack of support, and the harsh realities faced by figures like Gary Coleman.
  • Quote:
    “Maybe if you had become famous at that age, right now you'd be humping parked cars like some of these fucking—Right? No, but I'm just saying.” — Bill Maher [12:50]
  • Quote:
    “There's no safety net for kid actors. You're really on your own.” — Seth Green [13:49]

5. Pop Culture & The Rise of the ‘Geezer Movie’

• The duo critique the phenomenon of aging stars headlining “geezer comedies,” reflecting on Hollywood’s changing views on aging and celebrity cachet.
• They fondly recall their favorite ensemble casts and dissect the shift from dramatic gravitas to comic relief for older actors.
  • Quote:
    “There's a whole genre now I call them geezer movies, where, you know, these are movies where actors who were huge stars... now are 80... They have to be geezer movies.” — Bill Maher [20:06]

6. Marriage, Maturity & The Learning Curve of Relationships

• Both discuss marrying late, emphasizing that real maturity (and a good relationship) comes from learning via past mistakes.
  • Quote:
    “No one's ready to get married before. That's a perfect time to get married if you're gonna do it.” — Bill Maher [22:37]

7. Fame, Attraction, and Navigating Celebrity Dating

• They candidly deconstruct the power of fame in dating life, joking about their respective “types” and the superficial aspects of Hollywood romance.
  • Quote:
    “My type was hot because I was just young and horny.” — Bill Maher [24:33]
  • Seth recalls realizing, post-early fame, that he couldn’t always tell when someone was genuinely interested in him as a person or his persona.
  • Quote, on dating after fame:
    “There was a point in the 90s where I realized that I couldn't predict anyone's purpose in talking to me… whether someone would be pursuing me.” — Seth Green [63:42]

8. 90s Nostalgia & Comparing Eras

• There’s deep nostalgia for the 1990s, which they see as a uniquely free, fun, and (relatively) safe era before the overreach of internet culture and terrorism.

  • Quote:
    “The 90s was—it was post AIDS and pre terrorism paranoia. So it was like a very... the issues were like, not much.” — Bill Maher [36:05]

• They discuss the absurdities of the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal, the cultural impact of simple “scandals” compared to today’s existential anxieties, and the normalization of things like thong underwear thanks to media coverage.

  • Quote:
    “Only dancers and prostitutes wore thongs. Pre Monica Lewinsky saying that what got the president to whip his dick out was her having the thong peek out over the skirt. And immediately it flipped culture.” — Seth Green [40:20]

9. Pop Culture, Technology, and the Evolution of the Mass Audience

• Both reflect on how technology drove changes in how people socialize and consume pop culture.
• They discuss the fractured modern attention span—everyone has a podcast, everything is a niche—and joke about Andy Warhol’s “15 minutes of fame.”
  • Quote:
    “That is the most prescient thing anybody ever said. Because when you see that everybody has a podcast... Everything is so fractured.” — Bill Maher [70:24]

10. Comedy, Empathy, and Lessons from Hollywood

• Seth and Bill agree that making people laugh is partly about coping with life’s pain, and share mutual appreciation for their comedic peers.

  • Quote:
    “There's something about comics—I think—where you inherently love the audience as much as you find a reason to resent them... You just sort of need—you know, life is fucking terrible, and you just sort of want to make people smile sometimes...” — Seth Green [66:12]

• They discuss the importance of being kind to newcomers on set, recalling positive experiences with actors like Christina Applegate.

  • Quote:
    “I will never forget that. And I think we all do. We remember the people who treated us like that, and we remember the people who don't.” — Bill Maher [54:02]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the hazards of child stardom:
  “There's no safety net for kid actors. You're really on your own.” — Seth Green [13:49]

• On the odd pairing power of fame and poverty:
  “You have this double humiliation of. What are you doing on the subway? I know why I'm on the subway... there's no shame in me being on the subway.” — Bill Maher [14:34]

• On 90s freedom:
  “The 90s was... post AIDS and pre-terrorism paranoia. And the issues were... Clinton, who was a centrist, was president and the big issue was he got blown.” — Bill Maher [36:05]

• On comedy as a calling:
  “There's something about comics ...you just sort of want to make people smile sometimes, you know, even if it's feeling not alone.” — Seth Green [66:12]

• On massive parties versus real connections:
  “It's fun—like a petting zoo is fun—to stand in the middle of a room and see nothing but stars.” — Bill Maher [16:36]

• On pop culture as cultural bedrock:
  “History is defined by pop. Like the stuff that we really remember, the stuff that really collects an audience. It is as powerful as any theology.” — Seth Green [40:42]

• On the comic books vs. literature debate:
  “You could enjoy an everlasting childhood. I mean, everybody does what they want... but just don't tell me that it's the same thing as literature, because it's not.” — Bill Maher [56:48]

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Noteworthy Segments (Timestamps)

• Reminiscing & Pandemic Friend Fights: [02:36]
• Social Media’s Downside & Avoiding the Press: [05:31]
• Challenges of Child Stardom: [12:14; 13:49]
• On Old Actors in Hollywood & ‘Geezer Movies’: [20:06–21:39]
• Relationship Wisdom & Marrying Late: [22:04–22:55]
• On Attractiveness & Fame: [24:33]
• Green Day & Pop Punk Scene: [26:27–27:41]
• Chris Guest & Awkward Celebrity Interactions: [28:44]
• Marilyn Manson Punching Andy Dick (Party Story): [29:06–31:56]
• 90s AIDS Panic and Sex Culture: [34:31–35:29]
• Thong Culture & Monica Lewinsky: [40:17–40:39]
• On ‘Cribs,’ MTV and Rise of Public Lifestyles: [44:00–44:39]
• Seth’s Experience Getting ‘Punk’d’: [45:08–50:19]
• The Power and Pitfalls of Fame in Dating: [68:54–69:23]
• Comic Book Culture vs. Classic Literature: [55:26–56:48]
• On ‘Hate Crimes’ as ‘Thought Crimes’: [71:03–71:43]

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Tone & Atmosphere

The episode maintains a tone that’s both irreverent and reflective. Banter and jokes flow freely, but beneath that is a genuine camaraderie and a sense of older industry veterans marveling—and sometimes mourning—how much things have changed since their formative years. Their willingness to delve into both the superficial world of Hollywood parties and the deeper anxieties around culture, fame, and American society give the conversation an engaging depth.

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Final Thoughts

Bill Maher and Seth Green, through storytelling and loose conversational riffs, illuminate what it means to grow up—and age—inside the Hollywood machine. The episode is peppered with personal anecdotes, cultural commentary, and plenty of laughs. For fans of either personality, or anyone curious about the behind-the-scenes realities of celebrity, fame, and the wild tides of pop culture, this is an episode well worth experiencing.

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Transcript

[Bill Maher]

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[Seth Green]

But that's a fair point.

[Bill Maher]

Thank you, darling. Our anniversary is going to be so much.

[Seth Green]

Do you like cake? There are options.

[Bill Maher]

I was the first one to say that. That was my job.

[Seth Green]

I'm not. I'm not here to debate that. But he.

[Bill Maher]

You got Seth Green. Let's do a show.

[Seth Green]

What's up, man?

[Bill Maher]

How are you?

[Seth Green]

I'm good.

[Bill Maher]

How you doing? You look the same as ever. Really? You do? You have the same exact look.

[Seth Green]

Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

I mean, I haven't seen you in person in forever.

[Seth Green]

It's been a minute. I feel like the last time I saw you was like, if it wasn't McFarlane's birthday party, probably maybe at like. Do you remember that? Maybe the Chateau. It feels like the last time I really saw you in person. Maybe after that at the Emmy something something Emmys.

[Bill Maher]

I mean, Seth and I, who I adore so much, and some of his paraphernalia is around here somewhere.

[Seth Green]

Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

But one birthday party, we did have a big fight about it. Cause it was Covid, you know, and he was like. He was a Covid paranoid. I'm sorry. I love him, but I think that's my view. He would say I'm whatever. I'm not an anti vaxxer at all. But, you know, we've had that. We once had a screaming match in the middle of the tower bar over dinner about this. But that's what friends do. Real friends talk and sometimes yell, and then you come back to loving.

[Seth Green]

Yeah. I've always valued civil discourse. I brought some weed. I know you like weed. Do you have your own weed?

[Bill Maher]

I grow it here.

[Seth Green]

You do?

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, right. I mean, probably 10ft away, there's a pot plant growing.

[Seth Green]

You're kidding. What kind of is it? Like, what do you have indicas? What do you like?

[Bill Maher]

Well, you know, I have an old friend who went to prison for a pot. Todd McCormick. He's a famous pot revolutionary. Done a lot, as much as anyone for the cause. Now he's into seeds. You know, he's got a huge seed business. No, I brought my own. I don't trust you.

[Seth Green]

You don't trust.

[Bill Maher]

I love you, but I don't trust you because I only want to grow the stuff that I know is super clean. Grown here.

[Seth Green]

Sure.

[Bill Maher]

And he's provide. You know, his thing is seeds now.

[Seth Green]

So I'm happy to try yours if you can.

[Bill Maher]

Please do. Absolutely. It's $10.

[Seth Green]

Okay. I got. Do you take crypto.

[Bill Maher]

Here? We don't have to share, like, it's the 60s.

[Seth Green]

We just.

[Bill Maher]

You're too far away.

[Seth Green]

Isn't that the best part? Like, I remember super illegal weed. And I remember, like. Don't you remember when, like, I feel like it was the early 90s, Woody Harrelson got arrested for, like, planting. Do you remember this?

[Bill Maher]

Not wheat hemp.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, just hemp. Don't you remember this?

[Bill Maher]

But I mean, the reason why that's a whole different kettle of fish is that he was making the point that hemp, which is also illegal, not weed. And if you don't believe me, try to get high on it.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bill Maher]

It's just. It's a cousin. But, you know, it was used to the parchment that the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution or some old document is signed on it.

[Seth Green]

Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

And you can use it to make a sailboat. You can use it to make a parachute.

[Seth Green]

You know, you can't use it to get high without a lot of chemical processing. Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

Well, it has to be mixed with the THC variety. I mean, that's what a lot of cbd, oils and stuff. Do you use that stuff? Do you rub that on your dick?

[Seth Green]

Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

Oh.

[Seth Green]

As hard and as vigorously as possible. I don't think it's the C. Me too. I don't know if it's the CBD.

[Bill Maher]

That'S making me feel good when I do.

[Seth Green]

That might just be the friction.

[Bill Maher]

That's what I'm thinking.

[Seth Green]

I don't know, but.

[Bill Maher]

I don't know.

[Seth Green]

Kind of friction you into.

[Bill Maher]

Not the kind with the Hollywood community, but there's certainly.

[Seth Green]

I'll tell you what, Bill. Like, I just. That's why I don't go to anybody's house. I just. I stay home. I don't talk to the press line. I mean, not like that. But I kind of just never really early on. I just recognized before everybody was sort of toxified by social media in general or empowered to speak their most immediate reaction without any kind of speak your truth. But even more that just, like, react. Just react. Like, I knew you just don't fuck with faith. Right. Like, you don't get at somebody about their theological core stuff, the stuff that they share with only themselves. Truly, like, there's really no fucking with that. If somebody believes something like, that's theirs to believe. But I also believe in differences of opinion. I also believe in people being able to have a conversation and marvel at each other's differences. Of course not. Of course not. It's gotten so much worse and so much shittier. And I really struggle with that. I think the most I struggle with that, like, having to adjust my worldview to see this volume of active division and hate mongering.

[Bill Maher]

But of course, the difference with us is I have to. This is what I do for a living, is talk about issues. That's right.

[Seth Green]

I know you gotta get into it.

[Bill Maher]

And you smart, shouldn't and don't.

[Seth Green]

Yeah. But here I am on your show. This is funny, but I realize this is gonna be the conversation specifically for.

[Bill Maher]

Not necessarily doing that.

[Seth Green]

Oh, good. But you and I have known each other long enough and we both come from comedy enough to talk about that. Like, I love stand up. I love comedy. It's probably one of my favorite.

[Bill Maher]

I mean, obviously we didn't do a very good job of communication because the number one thing we've tried to communicate, obviously failingly, is that I started this because I have a show about politics.

[Seth Green]

Right.

[Bill Maher]

And there's a million other things to talk about. Now this show has.

[Seth Green]

I'm saying I didn't do enough homework.

[Bill Maher]

Which is not you.

[Seth Green]

They probably send me a lot of emails and texts and I have a really bad time reading any of that. I get a lot of emails every day.

[Bill Maher]

Okay, all right, we'll blame it on that. But whatever it is now, sometimes it veers into that, depending on the guests. Sure. Because I have no agenda. I have pot and liquor and that's it. And I all my life wanted to do a show.

[Seth Green]

Who rolls these in tobacco leaves for you? Because that's a move.

[Bill Maher]

This is not tobacco. I promise. There's no tobacco.

[Seth Green]

What is it? What's this?

[Bill Maher]

Brow? You know, it's just. It's the healthy kind.

[Seth Green]

You got filters and everything. This is smooth.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah. I'm telling you, I'm trying to. I'm 70. I'm trying to like live.

[Seth Green]

You're 70?

[Bill Maher]

Yeah. What are you?

[Seth Green]

I'm 51. I would have put you at maybe 64, maybe 65.

[Bill Maher]

Okay, well, I shaved off five years. What a thrill.

[Seth Green]

Don't you feel like it's so different now? Like, I even look at pictures of Ted Knight.

[Bill Maher]

Ted Knight?

[Seth Green]

Yeah, Ted Knight. And he was like 41 and he looked like he was 80. Conrad Bane was like, I don't even think he was 40 when he was making different strokes. Like he was playing the young rich guy on that show.

[Bill Maher]

Why do. Why do young girls now want to like do shit that makes them look older?

[Seth Green]

What do you mean?

[Bill Maher]

I mean like a lot of. They're like. Well, for example, beauty. You know, Miss Universe types. You know, beauty contestants, they. They're 19 and they look 40. Like, how do you just.

[Seth Green]

Cause they've done like surgery or makeup.

[Bill Maher]

I'm asking. I mean. Yes. And then you don't have to be a beauty contestant. They do things to themselves, I think, that make them look older.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, yeah. As a kid performer, I can tell you that's always been the push is to make anything younger look older. I don't know why, I don't know what sense that makes.

[Bill Maher]

I'm talking about a normal 19 year old girl. Why is she, you know, doing plastic surgery at the very age when you don't need it?

[Seth Green]

Nature is social. I think that's the social media. Of course. I think the social media is absolutely. You know, there was a. I have to scientifically recognize that we're still in the early beta of any of these social constructs. Like even the idea we're just entering into generations that are born without it ever having not been there. Like it's always been this way. But I think there should be. I see all these legal gatekeeps across Internet porn. I think the social should have the same kind of checks. Right. They're trying to dox people over Internet porn. You know what I'm saying what?

[Bill Maher]

Gatekeeps are on porn.

[Seth Green]

A lot of these states and countries have passed laws that you can't watch anything. Like you can't.

[Bill Maher]

Seems like there's everything on there.

[Seth Green]

Right, right, right. But, but you're A lot of these sites, like your major traffic, it's now requiring you some kind of like personal doxxing. Like, this is who I am as a human. This is my age and my driver's license. And I just think that that's not cool at all. Like asking people to sign up.

[Bill Maher]

But isn't that just to make sure they're not underage?

[Seth Green]

It is, but. But also now you've got a database of that. You know what I mean? Now you got a database of people that are watching porn.

[Bill Maher]

Also, I think it's a fool's errand to think that you can outsmart a 13 year old.

[Seth Green]

I know you're talking to the original Napster, right?

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, no, right, but aren't I right about that?

[Seth Green]

Yeah, of course, like the people will always figure out how to get it for free. I don't think that's it. It's more like the idea of the law coming into place where someone can get arrested for getting porn illegally or porn before they're willing to give up their civil liberty of their name and their driver's license number.

[Bill Maher]

It is amazing that at 51, you still kind of have retained your cred as, you know, a tribune of the youth.

[Seth Green]

You think so?

[Bill Maher]

Yeah. I mean, that's who you are. You kind of. Again, you don't look your age. You know, it's like, you know, part of it is cause you're short, you know, I think so too.

[Seth Green]

Nobody's like, they're like this kid.

[Bill Maher]

Well, you know, it's like, you look like I'm watching Wednesday, you know, which is such a fun show. And it helps that she's so, so little.

[Seth Green]

Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

You know, because she obviously is not a kid, but she, you know, that size against all the adults in the cast.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, she loves. And the cast like big people too.

[Bill Maher]

Right. I think that's part of it. But you know, you just have a youthful way and you know, I don't know.

[Seth Green]

Thanks.

[Bill Maher]

It's very hard to do, to stay, to start as a child. I mean. You started as a child.

[Seth Green]

I didn't get famous when I was a kid and I think that's really.

[Bill Maher]

But you were in it.

[Seth Green]

I was in it, but I was in it as sort of like a character actor in the weirdest way. And since I was Just sort of on the edges of all this shit. I worked all the time, but I never got any of these big showy roles. I was just sort of the other guy in the movie. And that, I think, helped give me some credibility, helped me build my own skill set, helped me really build up discipline and also humility. And then I got to watch person after person after person fuck it up again and again and again through all the different means to the point where I was like, ah, never gonna do that.

[Bill Maher]

Maybe if you had become famous at that age, right now you'd be humping parked cars like some of these fucking. Right?

[Seth Green]

Hey, look, you know, don't kink shame, Bill. I mean, you of all people.

[Bill Maher]

No, but I'm just saying. Just what do you mean of all people?

[Seth Green]

Come on, man. You try to keep everybody out your bedroom same as any American person. Like, stay the fuck out my bedroom. We do whatever I want.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, but I don't. But, you know, if you want to.

[Seth Green]

Hump parked cars, Bill, like, I'm not trying to tell you that's not okay. Just make sure it's your car and that the car is consensual.

[Bill Maher]

I'm just saying there's a lot of nutty things that have happened with child actors. I mean, they, they. The. The percentage, it seems, I don't know, you know, I don't know people of other pursuits in life as much as I know. And we read about, of course, people in show business, but it seems like a greater percentage of them do crack up and become, I mean, kooky, you know, like homeless, crazy kind of kooky.

[Seth Green]

It's very hard. And there's a thing that a lot of people don't understand is that even if you. You stay famous, even if you don't have any money, and that's what happened to Gary. Coleman was like, Gary couldn't get work, and he just couldn't get work. So there's no way for Gary to make money. There weren't the same kind of mechanisms in place now for people to do trade shows or fan expos? To, like, make money being Gary Coleman. And so he had to suffer indignity after indignity. He lost all his money in one way or another. His parents totally fucked him over. So much so that there were, like, laws written on his behalf. And it sucks that that kid had to go through all that just to show these other kids how to not do it. But there's nothing. There's no safety net for kid actors. You know what I mean? You're really on your own.

[Bill Maher]

You make such a great point there that people don't think about wealth is associated with fame. All right? So if you are, as you say, famous but don't have any money, then you have this double humiliation of. What are you doing on the subway? I know why I'm on the subway. There's no shame in me being on the subway.

[Seth Green]

Why? You work in the security guard gig, right? Yeah. Poor fucking Gary.

[Bill Maher]

I remember Armie Hammer was selling real estate in the Bahamas. For a minute.

[Seth Green]

I buy a house from that guy.

[Bill Maher]

The kitchen was a little different.

[Seth Green]

Ah. You know, it's got really big ovens.

[Bill Maher]

He sat here. I was happy to do my. My part in Re.

[Seth Green]

Did. Sat Here.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah.

[Seth Green]

I loved him in. There was a movie. He and Henry Caval did the man from uncle and it was so great.

[Bill Maher]

I love The man from U.N.C.L.E with Alicia Vander was also in.

[Seth Green]

Isn't she the best?

[Bill Maher]

She's very attractive young lady. Yes.

[Seth Green]

Well, yeah, yeah, that too.

[Bill Maher]

Oh, that's what I. I thought.

[Seth Green]

Oh, that I was saying. No, she's amazing. I've seen her play a bunch of different. Super convincing to say. And yeah, she looks the part though. But most people and she, you know.

[Bill Maher]

Could have been Wednesday is what I.

[Seth Green]

You're not wrong, you know.

[Bill Maher]

No, that girl, Jenna Ortega, she's perfect for that part.

[Seth Green]

Have you been wrong?

[Bill Maher]

She kills it. No, me neither. I don't go out to a lot of. I mean, I go out more than you, apparently. You just. You seem to be saying that you're just a complete stay at home.

[Seth Green]

I'm not a. I'm not married.

[Bill Maher]

But you're married, right?

[Seth Green]

I am married, yeah. We have a almost three year old that keeps me home a lot.

[Bill Maher]

Oh, you go.

[Seth Green]

You've got.

[Bill Maher]

You've got the.

[Seth Green]

But I go out. I do. I, you know, I do the stuff that feels like the prom stuff, you know what I'm saying? Like, I went to that.

[Bill Maher]

Not really, but I kind of do. What, like award shows?

[Seth Green]

Well, yeah, yeah, you go to the stuff that is like your peers at this moment in the year.

[Bill Maher]

I love the Vanity Fair Oscar party.

[Seth Green]

Right on. So there's like a particular party you go to where it's like, I know everybody here. This is great.

[Bill Maher]

I don't know everybody there, but I know who everybody is there. And it's fun. Like a petting zoo is fun to stand in the middle of a room and see nothing but stars.

[Seth Green]

And everybody knows you. Everybody knows you. Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

I mean, I wouldn't say Everybody. Because there are certain demographics that are elusive. Let's, let's glide over that. But, you know, anyone who knows, like, you know what the war in Ukraine is probably knows who I am. But yes, they're up. You know, look, this is Hollywood. Never underestimate what people don't know in this town.

[Seth Green]

This is not, you're not wrong. This is not a people's blind spots.

[Bill Maher]

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[Seth Green]

It is stuff I, I did notice in that because I've had different moments. I've gotten to work on all kinds of sets, like first time director indies and like massive studio projects that have the full weight of multiple companies behind them in it.

[Bill Maher]

I mean like Austin Powers Yeah.

[Seth Green]

Like Austin Powers, Italian Job.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah. What's that?

[Seth Green]

When we made Without a paddle.

[Bill Maher]

Paramount. Yeah. Big Alien.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bill Maher]

Big budget.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, yeah. I got to do that.

[Bill Maher]

Big box office movie.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, exactly. The thing I got to do with Travolta and Robin Williams. They had a ton of money behind that.

[Bill Maher]

What was that?

[Seth Green]

It's called Old Dogs for.

[Bill Maher]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Old Dog.

[Seth Green]

I know, right? It's got me with a costumed man in a gorilla. Like a gorilla costume.

[Bill Maher]

There's a whole genre now I call them geezer movies, where, you know, these are movies where actors who were huge stars. You have to be a huge star to begin with for decades now are 80. And there obviously is an appetite from the public, a certain percentage to still see Robert De Niro, Al Pacino, Morgan Freeman. So, I mean, what kind of script can you have for an 80? They have to be geezer movies. They have.

[Seth Green]

But there's the same.

[Bill Maher]

They have Grandpa, you know, or like.

[Seth Green]

That heist movie that Zach Braff directed that had, like, Morgan in it, Michael Caine in it. The heist movie.

[Bill Maher]

I'm telling you, it's a whole.

[Seth Green]

Don't you remember, like, Grumpy Old Men? Don't you remember, like, Short Circuit? Not Short Circuit, batteries not included. A cocoon. Like, this has always been a thing. Like, we always watch.

[Bill Maher]

I think this is. I think it's more now. Yes, they always did that, but I feel like in the old days. No, they put you back to pasture, and the actors had more dignity. You know, they were Cary Grant ish. Greta Garbo ish. Like, I've had my moment.

[Seth Green]

It moved. In the 80s, you got your Hume Cronins, your Jessica Tandy.

[Bill Maher]

That was one movie. I feel like now what they do is they seg into. They were known as great dramatic actors, but they seg into the comedy world.

[Seth Green]

You're talking specifically about Helen Mirren and stuff like that.

[Bill Maher]

Helen de Mirren, I'm telling you, De Niro, Morgan Freeman, Al Pacino.

[Seth Green]

De Niro's got a lot of childcare to pay. You know, he's doing those movies.

[Bill Maher]

I'm not knocking it.

[Seth Green]

Oh.

[Bill Maher]

I'm just saying it's a phenomenon that we did not used to have to this level.

[Seth Green]

I don't know, we could compare release things. But I do take your point.

[Bill Maher]

I'm arguing harder than this, than I do about tariffs.

[Seth Green]

No, that's really fun. Hey, here's to that. Here's toasting about nothing that matters.

[Bill Maher]

So tell me about your life. Like, so you're Married? You got married, like what most people would say late in life, right?

[Seth Green]

I guess so, yeah. I was in my. In my later 30s, but I, you.

[Bill Maher]

Know, I went, oh, later 30s, yeah. How long you been married?

[Seth Green]

We've been married 15 years.

[Bill Maher]

Wow.

[Seth Green]

I know, it's crazy, right? That's crazy to think about. Neither one of us thought that was going to happen to us.

[Bill Maher]

Neither you or your wife or me or you.

[Seth Green]

No, no, neither me or my wife. We both just had been through a lot of life. We both had had a lot of experience and sort of learned a lot about ourselves and about what we wanted, what we didn't want, you know, I.

[Bill Maher]

Learned a lot of that's smart. No one's ready to get married before. That's a perfect time to get married if you're gonna do it.

[Seth Green]

It worked for me. It worked for me. I really can't like prescribe anybody anything, but I felt like we lucked out in a lot of ways and I learned a lot of shit on other girls time, you know, there's really nothing you can do about it.

[Bill Maher]

We all do it and we all. Well, I'm not gonna speak for everybody. I have some guilt about that. Of course not should have guilt, because how could you help it? You're young and you're dumb and you gotta learn. And if you're learning, you know comedy, you do it in front of an audience and you're bomb and it's painful and it's gotta. You, you inflicted that pain on that audience who had to sit through your shitty, I like this metaphor learning phase. And it's the same thing with relationships.

[Seth Green]

Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

You know, there are things that I did. I go, oh my God, I can't believe I was that stupid. Nothing horrific, just like dumbass shit that you just would never do now.

[Seth Green]

Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

And you know. Yes. But all I can assume is that the girl was to a degree doing that on guys too. Now, of course, girls mature much faster. So I think their phase of being dumb ends a lot quicker than ours.

[Seth Green]

I don't know, it just depends on. I think I discovered, at least for myself, that each of the longer term relationships I was in, there was a bit of me trying on some other Persona for size.

[Bill Maher]

Right.

[Seth Green]

Where this was a girl who had this way, and she came from this and seemed like that and liked these things and we had this in common and let's see how this goes. You know what I mean? It was not like I look at other people and I see, oh, you dated all these girls with dark Hair with bangs. It's like a very specific. Oh, never a girl without tattoos or only a girl from this city or. You know what I mean?

[Bill Maher]

Really?

[Seth Green]

Yeah, of course. Don't you know people with a type? Yeah, a type. I don't feel like I had a type. I just sort of tried a lot of things on for size.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, I would say I'm the same way. I mean, my type was hot because I was just young and horny.

[Seth Green]

What kind of things drive you? What do you think? What do you consider hot? Like, can a girl be hot if she's not physically attractive?

[Bill Maher]

No, I mean, that. That's. That's. That's not even in. That's not even 101.

[Seth Green]

Well, here's the thing. Here's the thing. I can give you.

[Bill Maher]

I'm sorry, but that's just the truth.

[Seth Green]

No, no, no. I'm not to you.

[Bill Maher]

Now, that's different. What's different? Hot to you may not be hot to me.

[Seth Green]

That's totally fair.

[Bill Maher]

But, you know, it's totally fair. And by the way, it's something everybody would agree on.

[Seth Green]

Wouldn't it be funny if I was like, that's not fair. We're going to fight about this.

[Bill Maher]

You seem to want to fight about everything, but you fight more than happy to fight.

[Seth Green]

Do I seem like I want to fight?

[Bill Maher]

I feel like you're, like, I say X, you say Y kind of person.

[Seth Green]

I don't mean to be like that.

[Bill Maher]

You can be. It doesn't bother me. It's kind of fun. For a half hour.

[Seth Green]

What the fuck are you talking about? Bill, we're not going to do this.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, but I had a girlfriend once who was just like that. Like, why I was in this relationship, I don't know, it was dumb. But I'd say X, she'd say Y. I mean, it's just tedious. Yeah, but no, I mean, look, people just don't agree on everything, and that's fine. But what were we talking about?

[Seth Green]

We were talking about pulling hot girls once you got famous.

[Bill Maher]

No, we weren't. We weren't actually talking about that. We were talking about.

[Seth Green]

I thought. I wasn't talking about.

[Bill Maher]

No, no. We were talking about.

[Seth Green]

I would have been circling around.

[Bill Maher]

You just wanted to get to that. We were talking about what constitutes attraction and if hotness was a part of it. And I said, of course it is, but it depends on what you think is hot. You know, Billy Corgan was here.

[Seth Green]

Oh, that's so cool.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, very cool.

[Seth Green]

How do you like him? I just Got to meet him for the first time. I was at a. There was a big music festival, and Green Day played. I don't know if you know this, but they're touring, like, the anniversaries. I love Green Day.

[Bill Maher]

They do the theme through my show, you know.

[Seth Green]

You're kidding.

[Bill Maher]

No, they perform the theme.

[Seth Green]

Oh, that's amazing. If you had anybody on here, like, Mike would come on here in a second, I'm sure.

[Bill Maher]

Billy, I want them all. Yeah, I've had Billy Joe on the show on real years ago.

[Seth Green]

But this kind of long form, though. Fuck, you'd never.

[Bill Maher]

Oh, I'd love to. I mean, I love Tangent City, though. Such a fan of their music.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, they're the fucking best. They put on a show, but I got to see pumpkins play beforehand. They put on a great show at this festival, and then Green Day played the anniversary. It's like the 20th anniversary of American Idiot and the 30th anniversary of Dookie. And they just put up a big balloon and play the whole fucking record. It's so cool, man. They sound unbelievable. They look insane.

[Bill Maher]

I can't believe it.

[Seth Green]

And they're all, like, really adults. I've been seeing these guys play music over 20 years. Like, I saw them the first time. Had to be, like, 94, 95.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, sure.

[Seth Green]

The first time I saw them. It's amazing to see them now. They're just unbelievable.

[Bill Maher]

It's amazing. I mean, they're a great band, and it's amazing how many great bands. And really, why shouldn't they but continue on? I mean, the Rolling Stones are on tour this year. They're post 80.

[Seth Green]

Have you gotten to see them? Yeah, I've only gotten to see them one time. And they were awesome.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, yeah, they know what they're doing.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, it is cool. They're still doing it. Oh, my God. Did you see the Spinal Tap movie?

[Bill Maher]

Not yet, but Rob. Rob was here a couple of weeks ago.

[Seth Green]

I love him so much. I think I froze up. Like, looking back, I went to the premiere. I saw everybody. I've known Michael McKeon for a long time because I made a movie with his wife when I was a child, which is hilarious. So when we see each other at all this shit, it's like, oh, hey, remember me? I was a kid. Anyway, I tried really hard to find an end to talk to Christopher Guest, and I just. You know how it is, man. You have one of these things, and you're, like, very far away from a person, and you sort of catch each other's eye.

[Bill Maher]

Right.

[Seth Green]

And you, like, try to muster up the courage to give like a head nod or something. And before you know it, the other person's like, that's. That's kind of Chris Guest in a nutshell. Like, that's every experience I've ever had.

[Bill Maher]

I mean, I don't know him, but I met him once and I did have the same experience.

[Seth Green]

Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

And that just could. That might just be because he's shy. I mean, you know, some people are just legitimately shy.

[Seth Green]

Yeah. Yeah. And that's why I'm not. I don't take it personally. I just always wish I could.

[Bill Maher]

And let's not be cooler. Let's not be hypocrites. I'm sure there are people who you've done the head turn to because you didn't want to talk to them.

[Seth Green]

Yeah. Never on. It's never like, oh, I don't want to talk to that person. It's always like, oh, shit. I'm personally. I don't know. It's always like I'm embarrassed of something and don't feel comfortable talking to the person. You know what I mean? Some kind of, like, insecurity.

[Bill Maher]

Okay, two words. Andy Dick. No, I'm kidding. I'm just saying, buddy.

[Seth Green]

I was there the night that Marilyn Manson punched Andy Dick in the throat.

[Bill Maher]

Oh, I don't know about this. When and what was this?

[Seth Green]

I mean, this could be anytime, anywhere. That's the worst part of the story.

[Bill Maher]

But when was it and why?

[Seth Green]

It's about 2003. It was. God, where were we? We're at some.

[Bill Maher]

Is that right?

[Seth Green]

It's 2003.

[Bill Maher]

2003. I could see it now. Ja Rule is on the charts.

[Seth Green]

Sounds about right. Yeah. So Mac and I were making that movie Party Monster. We were in New York going out quite a bit. And Manson was in the movie too. So we all traded numbers and then eventually all went out one night. And you know Andy, we're like walking down the street to go into this club and Andy is like, putting on a show and he just screams the second he sees me. Seth, Rick James is dead. And I go, oh, I didn't. I didn't know him. Andy, did you know him? And he's like, kinda. And I was like, hey, man, we're gonna go in the club. And he was like, me too. And I was like, we gotta get inside. And then we get inside and we're like, seated and Mac is there and Manson is next to him and Andy gets in there and it's just that Andy Comes and sits down and Manson just makes meaningful eye contact with me. And I just pull my hat down. I'm just. I was drinking tequila at that time. I just drank this tequila. I was like, this is a great beat. I'm just gonna listen to this. I'm just gonna dance in this vibe. And then I see it's this. And I saw it so clearly. Okay, It's Andy tries to talk to Mac and then tries to talk to Manson.

[Bill Maher]

Can I talk to who?

[Seth Green]

Mac. Macaulay Culkin. He tries to talk to Mack. He like turns to Mack and he.

[Bill Maher]

Goes, Macaulay Culkin was there?

[Seth Green]

Yeah, yeah, we made. We just made this movie together. So we're spending a ton of time together. Yeah, he's an adult. Two kids.

[Bill Maher]

I know. You know, I just do that when I. The poor guy. You know? How many years does it have to be before people stop A, going the. It's like the guy, the thing from Scream.

[Seth Green]

I know, but two things. He's not poor, so you don't have to worry about it. And B, every third quarter he cleans up, so you don't have to worry. Like, you might as well call him later. Yeah. It's Christmas.

[Bill Maher]

Oh, right.

[Seth Green]

Christmas. That's his month. So here's the point. Andy leans over to Mac and he goes like this. And Mac just goes like this. Just literally like that.

[Bill Maher]

Same.

[Seth Green]

So I gotta. Somebody else.

[Bill Maher]

What's he saying?

[Seth Green]

Who the fuck knows, man? I was dancing, I couldn't hear anything. And then he goes like this. And he turns to Manson and he goes. And I swear to you, Manson goes like this. Just hits him right in the fucking throat. And Andy just like sort of takes that hit and just like has a funny.

[Bill Maher]

That's Dewey imagination. Well, Andy was. I think, you know, there's that old thing, you know, gay when drunk or in Andy's case, gay when on crack. Or maybe. I don't know. But what could Andy have said?

[Seth Green]

I don't know. He said all kinds of inflammatory stuff. I know, but like, she was one of the most provocative people I ever met.

[Bill Maher]

But so personally offended that they hauled off and claim.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, I'd love to say that Manson wasn't quick to punch people.

[Bill Maher]

He was.

[Seth Green]

Yeah. Of course.

[Bill Maher]

I didn't know.

[Seth Green]

Oh, well, if you're like too close to him, he's definitely gonna push you.

[Bill Maher]

Really?

[Seth Green]

Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

I was not close to him. I mean, I used to see him. He did a politically incorrect ones and I got amazing press. Cause he was like the biggest star and very controversial.

[Seth Green]

Incredibly Eloquent.

[Bill Maher]

So whenever I used to see him, I mean, first of all, I used to always just say, hi, Brian. Because he's just a guy with a good Halloween costume. Like, I always wanted to let him know, you know, I'm not falling for the. You know, you got a great act. It's great. And even enjoyed a lot of the music. I mean, the dope show and, you know, some great songs there. But, you know, it was just, again, a Halloween costume. I get it. You got a shtick. But. Hi, Brian.

[Seth Green]

Yeah. How did he take that?

[Bill Maher]

Loved it.

[Seth Green]

Right?

[Bill Maher]

Was not. He got. It was a twinkle in his eye. And mine, I think it felt better.

[Seth Green]

I get it. And I'm not offended, coming from you. I think it felt better than when it came from, like, Courtney Love. Like, Courtney loved him.

[Bill Maher]

Courtney Love did that?

[Seth Green]

Yeah, yeah. Courtney would hit him with that high.

[Bill Maher]

Brian shit, and I don't think he did. I didn't know I was on the same beat as Courtney Love.

[Seth Green]

I don't think y' all are on the same beat. Have you had her on the show?

[Bill Maher]

No, but I would love to. I would love to talk to Courtney Love.

[Seth Green]

There's a part of me that will always love her. Always love her.

[Bill Maher]

You know, ho has some good music. Yeah, they flew on and very commercial. I mean, her image is really out there. Her records are not. Not the ones I have, anyway.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love the Live through this and what's it called? Hollywood.

[Bill Maher]

But, yeah, she's got some good records. I mean, like, well produced. Just my kind of music.

[Seth Green]

But she put on the show, too. I saw her tour Live through this and it was fucking incredible.

[Bill Maher]

So funny. The 90s.

[Seth Green]

Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

Right. Which, you know, what a time.

[Seth Green]

Can you even believe we got to do that? That's so insane.

[Bill Maher]

I mean, you were really young.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, yeah, but I was right in my 20s. And in an age, like, I had already made enough money that I could just, like, make some decisions. And.

[Bill Maher]

No, it was.

[Seth Green]

I was so hard hustling.

[Bill Maher]

It was idyllic in the sense that it was post AIDS. Not that AIDS went away, but AIDS in the 80s. For the kids who don't know, this is all history to you. People were freaked because you could die.

[Seth Green]

From sex in a way that never seemed possible.

[Bill Maher]

I mean, we don't have to get into the politics of how much was, as they would love to use the word these days, misinformation. But, yes, there was absolutely reason to be scared. But, you know, people were not having sex or wearing three condoms or I.

[Seth Green]

Don'T know what they were doing. You know, at least two condoms is not a bad idea.

[Bill Maher]

No, it's good to have safe sex. There's also a lot of stuff that was misleading anyway.

[Seth Green]

Absolutely.

[Bill Maher]

Point is that like in the 90s we kind of got over that. Like it was. It kind of reminded me of when we got over the pandemic. It was like. And then. Well, no, for. We just go back to this. Let's just go back to. Let's just move on.

[Seth Green]

I think we love panicking.

[Bill Maher]

We love panicking. And then we get enough of it and we. And we pretend it never happened. Like it was just a dream. Like it was the shower sequence in Dallas. It's just bullshit. Okay, so the night so we were over AIDS and terrorism hadn't happened yet here in America.

[Seth Green]

Not to that extent. I mean, so we had like hijackings and things like that.

[Bill Maher]

But it wasn't 9 11.

[Seth Green]

There was no mass shootings. It was Columbine.

[Bill Maher]

It wasn't 9 11.

[Seth Green]

Right. 9 11. Well, Columbine became Columbus before 9 11. Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

So it was between. Just go with this one.

[Seth Green]

You gotta give it to me. Don't say X. Yeah, yeah, fuck it. But there's no timeline. Time's the circle.

[Bill Maher]

Just go with this one, darling.

[Seth Green]

I'm with you, baby.

[Bill Maher]

I'm telling you, the 90s was. It was post AIDS and pre tourism paranoia. So it was like a very. And the issues were like, not much. I mean, Clinton, who was a centrist, was president and the big issue was he got blown.

[Seth Green]

I know.

[Bill Maher]

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[Bill Maher]

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[Seth Green]

No, I've been to Versailles and they showed me the separate house for the flip flitz, you know, so you're like the, the favorite mistress, the other girl they like. Hey listen, this king, he probably had like five, six women. Two of them had houses, one of them had a house right next to their house.

[Bill Maher]

Oh yeah, they just.

[Seth Green]

Nobody gives a shit. They're just like you guys are. It's so puritanical. It's shocking. Right? What is the beef with that?

[Bill Maher]

Well, that's true, but also, I mean, what I was getting at was that we were so innocent in a way of the kind of existential issues that we have now that we were disposed to obsess about this guy getting blown for two years, that this was. We weren't.

[Seth Green]

I wasn't. I didn't. But it became the place.

[Bill Maher]

A place. It was a national obsession.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, yeah, I remember. And it wholly influenced culture in ways we couldn't even imagine. Like all of a sudden, everybod. But he's like, I could wear a thong. I could wear a thong. We'll write a whole song about it.

[Bill Maher]

Why? Because she wore a thong.

[Seth Green]

She wore the thong. And because.

[Bill Maher]

Was that new.

[Seth Green]

Brand new. Brand new. Only dancers and prostitutes wore thongs. Pre Monica Lewinsky saying that what got the president.

[Bill Maher]

Interesting.

[Seth Green]

To whip his dick out was her having the thong peek out over the skirt. And immediately it flipped culture. Everybody's like, no shit, you're right. That was a big thing.

[Bill Maher]

That she kind of baited him with the song.

[Seth Green]

Baited him. My favorite thing is pop culture. Like, I love the way that this shit just ripples through full culture and there's no avoiding it. Like, you think that history is the most critical influence, but history is defined by pop. Like the stuff that we really remember, the stuff that really collects an audience. It is as powerful as any theology.

[Bill Maher]

History is really decided by technology. The new technology comes along and we are just always slaves to it.

[Seth Green]

Are you into that? Do you follow? Do you keep bumble on?

[Bill Maher]

That's just the truth. I mean, I am not good at technology.

[Seth Green]

No, no. I mean. But do you like it? Like, I'm super curious about tech, so I'm always paying attention to stuff.

[Bill Maher]

Super curious about what?

[Seth Green]

Technology. So I'm always.

[Bill Maher]

I'm curious about it, but I'm not native to it. And so I'm poor at it. I keep up enough to not be completely out of it. But. But you know, the way a 13 year old is today, how they grow up, this new generation. I mean, even Gen Z, even millennials, people who grew up with computers. I did not.

[Seth Green]

Me too, man. We're that generation. I guess I'm just a little behind you.

[Bill Maher]

But you're Gen X. I'm a boomer. It's funny, but your generation is the last sane generation. Then it went right off the end of the clip.

[Seth Green]

But we were the legit. Like, good luck.

[Bill Maher]

You were the last generation that the parents allowed to have a free range childhood.

[Seth Green]

Yes.

[Bill Maher]

Did you have a free range? So much, really?

[Seth Green]

My parents, I mean, I think about. I grew up in Philadelphia and New York. I lived in New York anytime I was working. Which was, you know, from the time I was 7 to the time I was 16 and moved to Los Angeles, which was 91. But in that time, growing up in Philadelphia and all around New York, it was like, good luck. Here's your key. Don't forget your phone number when you talk.

[Bill Maher]

So I'm wondering if you, like, grew up around.

[Seth Green]

I think that over time, I've gotten very lazy about policing. What could be somewhere between a Delaware and a New York accent?

[Bill Maher]

Delaware?

[Seth Green]

Yeah, yeah, Delaware.

[Bill Maher]

How did that get in the picture?

[Seth Green]

Because it's the Philadelphia accent. What is like south and west and north in East Philly, it sounds like the most.

[Bill Maher]

But did you go right in the city?

[Seth Green]

I grew up in Westerly.

[Bill Maher]

Where's that?

[Seth Green]

It's the same place that Will Smith was born and raised.

[Bill Maher]

Is it nice? Is it Looks like a suburb?

[Seth Green]

It's like lower middle class.

[Bill Maher]

Lower middle class.

[Seth Green]

So, yeah, my neighborhoods were all black and Italian. My school was all black and Italian. Yeah. Sorry, Bill.

[Bill Maher]

It's all right.

[Seth Green]

You got me high. I'm supposed to follow these questions.

[Bill Maher]

I got you high? Yeah. I really foisted it upon you. What do you think of the pot?

[Seth Green]

This is great.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, it's great.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, it's mellow, which I like. Yeah, yeah.

[Bill Maher]

But okay, so you grew up in this. I would say we probably had very similar backgrounds. Although I grew up in an all white town. But I would say it was middle to lower middle class. I mean, when I went back to the house like a few years ago, whoa. First of all, they completely remodeled it. It's unrecognizable. That's crazy because it was so tiny. People were happier back then, but they had tinier houses, they had tinier everything. They were not crazy, made crazy because they were mind raped by the Internet.

[Seth Green]

Don't you remember watching Cribs in the cribs, mid-90s? Yeah, the MTV show Cribs.

[Bill Maher]

Of course.

[Seth Green]

So when I watched that show, I was like, ah, this is the end of culture. Like, we're watching this. We might as well be watching Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. And MTV was popularizing this. And I thought it was camp at first, but then I realized, like, I knew people that were like, I'm getting a shark tank in my house. I was like, I loved it because.

[Bill Maher]

It gave me permission to say to people, okay, now get the out of my house.

[Seth Green]

Right.

[Bill Maher]

Because that's the way every episode ended.

[Seth Green]

I know, right? I knew a couple that was on that show. And then like, the next week after the show where they got robbed.

[Bill Maher]

Oh, really? Because they know.

[Seth Green]

Because everybody. I was like, oh, I see these multiple points of entry. It looks like they've got a really failing security system. That's where the Safes are okay. That's awesome. So fucking insanely stupid and punked.

[Bill Maher]

Remember that was like.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, yeah. I was on, like, the second episode ever of Punk. So before the concept was even. Yeah. Yes.

[Bill Maher]

That's a badge of honor.

[Seth Green]

Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

They never punked me.

[Seth Green]

Well, I was really lucky that.

[Bill Maher]

Fuck you, Ashton Kutcher.

[Seth Green]

I couldn't look. I was lucky that it wasn't a thing that made me look too stupid.

[Bill Maher]

What was it? What was the punk?

[Seth Green]

They invited me to what was supposed to be, like, a charity gambling night at the, like, Sunset Tower. And it was after a taping in the 70s show. And so we, like, all those kids and I knew each other, and we would have a habit. They'd tape on Friday, and then we would all go out together to one of these clubs, and you roll into a place with, like, 15 or 20 people, and you get to take over a section, and you're not concerned about anybody getting in or making you feel unsafe or any of it really being dangerous. So it was a very cool vibe if you just like to dance and drink. And we all had, like, cars that were there, so nobody was driving or anything anyway. So they were like, hey, instead of that, after the show tonight, we're going to do this charity gambling thing. And I was like, okay. And so we get to this place, and I had just been in the place before for a table reading. So immediately I noticed that this room had been recently renovated. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Thank you. I don't know. How much of the story do you want? It's real simple. They tried to.

[Bill Maher]

Well, as you can see, we have to go to commercial. No. Isn't it great that we don't?

[Seth Green]

Isn't that fun?

[Bill Maher]

But we have to, like. I mean, like, a zero. Do I ever think about this? Because, like, I was saying in the beginning, I wanted to finally do a show that was exactly what my life is like.

[Seth Green]

This is so funny.

[Bill Maher]

Zero difference between. If you just came over. If you just came over, would I have a series of questions? I see these podcasts, and they're just like talk shows used to be. They have cards, they have microphones. Okay. I'm not knocking them. I'm just saying this is different.

[Seth Green]

I love that.

[Bill Maher]

I love it, too.

[Seth Green]

You gotta put your spin on it.

[Bill Maher]

But what were you saying? Cause I was very.

[Seth Green]

When they intrigued me.

[Bill Maher]

Oh, what was the punk.

[Seth Green]

The whole punk party.

[Bill Maher]

So you were in a charity thing?

[Seth Green]

Yeah, yeah, but they took me out. So the guy was like, yo, man, can I talk? Talk to you? And this guy looked really familiar. And I realized later it looked familiar because he was on 106 and Park. I was like, oh, this guy I didn't even know. And then. But he takes me outside, you know, there's like, nobody in this party. I'm like, this is not a party, guys. The lights are so bright, right? I'm like, there's no music. Like, what is this? And I'm looking at all these doors. I'm trying to find an outlet. I'm going to, like, plug in my speaker. I was like, y' all are not going to raise any money. This party sucks. Then the guy, like, takes me outside and he says, hey, man, I gotta let you know, I'm a cop. And I was like, oh, cool. I know a lot of cops. And he's like, yeah, I'm undercover. We're about to bust up this game. And I was like, oh, weird. I thought this was a charity game. What do you mean you bust it? And he goes, this is an illegal game. And I think you know who's running it. I was like, who? And he said, we know that you know. And I go, I don't know what you're talking about. My friend said that this was a charity game. Are you saying there's something going on? Is this, like, an illegal charity? What are you talking about?

[Bill Maher]

That is something.

[Seth Green]

And he's like, you gotta tell me whose game this is. And I was like, ah, well, these are the people that invited me, But I don't think they organized it.

[Bill Maher]

What were the punksters expecting you to do that would be so embarrassing.

[Seth Green]

Like, suddenly I was like, it's Ashton Kutcher's game. Ashton Kutcher. Ashton Kutcher invite. Ashton Kutcher invited me A S H, T O, N too. Because there's a moment where, like, I go back, he's like, hey, the cops are gonna come in here in about 45 minutes, so you gotta get the fuck outta here. And I was like, okay, cool, cool. So I go back on the table, and I'm like, hey, Kutch, we probably gonna get the fuck outta here. Like, maybe you get your money off the table. Like maybe we get out of here. He's like, what are you talking about? We're staying with doing this thing. And then some motherfucker somersaults through the window, and all of a sudden the doors explode and there's people, and they're like, everybody on the ground kind of shit. And this is how many times I've been in handcuffs. I immediately look around. And I'm like, well, none of these guys have guns, so this is obviously intended like a peaceful takedown. This isn't. I don't think anybody's gonna get hurt tonight. So then everybody's.

[Bill Maher]

Well, that's your white privilege talking, Seth. I'm out of here.

[Seth Green]

Yeah. None of them had guns. There's nothing to talk about. None of them even had tasers. They didn't have utility belts. I'm like, well, whatever this is is different than, like, cops. So you know what I mean? Yes. So then they're blah, blah, blah about, like, whoever knows whatever. And, like, I. I make eye contact with Kutcher because they're like, everybody on the ground. Get on the ground. On the ground. And I make eye contact with Kutcher, and I'm just like, don't say anything. Don't say they don't have. There's nothing to say.

[Bill Maher]

I love blah, blah, blah.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, the blah, blah, blah. Because that's what they were like, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then whenever illegal, whatever. Well, then the same guy made me stand up, and he was like, why don't you tell everybody what I saw?

[Bill Maher]

So really, you punked them because they didn't get you to look stupid. And when that happens, I feel like that show should have then had this mea culpa. Like, okay, the contestant who we played this game with, they won the game because they didn't do something stupid. Because I've seen them do stupid things. I've seen the ones where it's like, don't you know who I am?

[Seth Green]

Oh, my God.

[Bill Maher]

Ooh, you look bad.

[Seth Green]

I know. I'm seeing so many people.

[Bill Maher]

Don't do the. You don't know who I am because we just caught you being the asshole that you pretend you're not in public.

[Seth Green]

They didn't want. They punked. It was like, Penelope Cruz and maybe Salma Hayek, where they. There's a giant shit in the bathroom, and one of them is, like, asked to take credit for. They're like, which one are you shitting the bath? And I'm like, this is the.

[Bill Maher]

They did that to Penelope Cruz?

[Seth Green]

Yeah, Penelope Cruz and Salma Hayek. Can you imagine that?

[Bill Maher]

But wait, so the. The. The Salma Hayek punk was that. There was a giant.

[Seth Green]

Damn. I love trying to keep this on track. Yeah, they went out to a public restaurant, and she was like, I gotta go.

[Bill Maher]

She was supposed to, like, throw a fit about that.

[Seth Green]

No, she's supposed to.

[Bill Maher]

I gotta tell you, I would throw a shit about that. I would.

[Seth Green]

I think she was supposed to find the shit. And then, like, they come out and they're like, hey, listen, you clogged the toilet. And she. And then she's like, no, I do.

[Bill Maher]

Accuse her of it.

[Seth Green]

Accuse her of it.

[Bill Maher]

Because if anyone looks like they take massive shits.

[Seth Green]

Penelope, she does. No, I think it was Salma Hayek. But similar figures.

[Bill Maher]

You just said Salma Hayek, Penelope Cruz, you know, Latina ladies, They're all the same.

[Seth Green]

No, no, absolutely not.

[Bill Maher]

It just looks bad.

[Seth Green]

They have a similar figure.

[Bill Maher]

They do. And there's nothing wrong with that. And by the way, I think we're past that era. That was the peak woke era. It is funny, right?

[Seth Green]

Like, how fucking delicate it got. It was almost red scare kind of. Kind of era.

[Bill Maher]

And now, of course, we have the. Because nothing ever happens in the middle in this country. We have the pendulum swinging all the way to the other side.

[Seth Green]

It's scary. Like, the second they start talking about the hate speech not being protected.

[Bill Maher]

But peak woke was, how dare you mix up with Salma Hayek with Penelope Cruz. And sanity is just. I'm sorry. I get stars mixed up sometimes. It's not a hate crime. Nobody died and nobody hates Latinos. He's not in the Klan because he got two actors mixed up.

[Seth Green]

I know. I was at a party and saw Seth Rogen there, and we were standing next to each other talking for a minute, and two different people came up and almost glitched at the idea of us being.

[Bill Maher]

Why?

[Seth Green]

Cause they're both named Seth.

[Bill Maher]

Oh.

[Seth Green]

And they don't have room in their brain for more than one Seth.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah. I hate people like that. Now when you were unmarried with children.

[Seth Green]

Right.

[Bill Maher]

What was the.

[Seth Green]

You know, it's so funny.

[Bill Maher]

What was the cast like? I got to edit o'. Neal. Great to work with.

[Seth Green]

It's so great. Ed is like a dad to me. Like, he still calls me every once in a while, just be like, hey, you get those residuals?

[Bill Maher]

And Christina Applegate, National Treasure. You know, I was a guest star on that show.

[Seth Green]

You were?

[Bill Maher]

Yes. In my.

[Seth Green]

Were you talking about Married with Children or. Yes, her other show does.

[Bill Maher]

No. Married with Children. I mean, in my. What did you do?

[Seth Green]

Oh, my God. What did you play?

[Bill Maher]

In my wandering years. You know, I came out here in the early 80s comic, and in those days, we all wanted to get on a sitcom, and I did, and I got on a few of them, and then it was like, that was going down, but I was still like, you know, somebody who they were Interested in putting in a show, maybe. So I would do guest spots. I did Roseanne and I did Married With Children.

[Seth Green]

Amazing.

[Bill Maher]

And she could not have been nicer. As far as, like, ooh, Applegate.

[Seth Green]

Yes.

[Bill Maher]

As far as, like, inviting someone into the, like, sort of inner circle of the cast, which is, you know, we've been all been on shows, it gets very cliquey. But making someone who was a guest star feel like, oh, you're part of the family this week, too. I will never forget that. And I think we all do. We remember the people who treated us like that, and we remember the people who don't. You're right.

[Seth Green]

I always try to be the former. Like, I had enough really positive experiences, especially as a kid, to take. I wouldn't say responsibility, but I have sympathy for and I have empathy for anybody who's, like, going through this. I've been. My whole career was defined in guest spots and, like, day player parts. You know what I'm saying? Like, just trying to find a way to make somebody notice me. But as a result, I worked on all of the shows, so I got to know everybody from a very young age and see how people do it well or do it poorly.

[Bill Maher]

And you got into the slipstream that was, like, the right one to get into, which is, like, comic book stuff.

[Seth Green]

Isn't that funny? Well, all of this shit that nobody wanted to talk about pre 2007, which now rules showbiz. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? That's the funny thing. I have to remind all of my nerdy friends that, like, we won. Everybody chill out.

[Bill Maher]

Good. For their college funds.

[Seth Green]

It's not bad. My child will be able to love Fantastic Four without ever worrying about being beaten with our own metal Fantastic Four lunchbox.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah. It's good money in that, right?

[Seth Green]

It ain't bad. Well, with anything, man, you get anything that hits, like, the margins are so much bigger now than they ever were before. It makes it a little bit harder for the independents, but it just means that you gotta find the little money for little things in other places.

[Bill Maher]

Those comic book people went after me once really hard because I said something about when. When Stan Lee died.

[Seth Green]

Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

You know, and I wasn't making fun of Stan Lee. I wasn't happy Stan Lee died. I was sorry that comic book fans lived.

[Seth Green]

No, I'm.

[Bill Maher]

No, I mean, enjoy. I was just saying, like, these people who think that comic books are great literature. I mean, I heard from the Stan Lee Society who said, like, you, Bill Maher, you're a terrible person. You Think comic books are immature. They said the same thing about Dostoevsky and Melville and Shakespeare. No, they didn't. Nobody ever said that if you read a book without pictures, you'd know that to be true. Nobody ever said that. So, you know, you could enjoy an everlasting childhood. I mean, everybody does what they want. It's a free country. But just don't tell me that it's. That this is the same thing as literature, because it's not. Because the plots are not resolved the same way. The Godfather is a great movie because of the way the plot is resolved. Comic book movies, the plot is resolved because somebody shoots rays through their fingers. That's not. That's fine, but that's not for adults. You know, I want material for adults. It's just me. You can enjoy that, but, you know, don't get on my case if I call you out on it.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, yeah. I don't. I don't agree with the. Getting on each other's cases about your likes or dislikes. The great thing about living in this country, at least for the moment, is you're. We still have this. Yeah, for the moment. We'll see.

[Bill Maher]

No, it's true.

[Seth Green]

We still have this. Freedom of expression.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah.

[Seth Green]

You know, we still have these. What we imagine to be inalienable rights. Like when our forefathers escaped, left what they felt was the tyranny of the. The king, and decided to forge this new union without any of the dumb shit that they felt they'd endured under the king. And here we are, it's almost 300 years later. You could also argue that which empire lived more than 300 years? Most of these empires go through some kind of very significant change. I just didn't expect ours to be this kind of apathetic resignation to autocracy. That just seems so silly. Everybody's like, oh, well, I guess we'll just never have elections again. I'm like, well, guys, you forget the power of the people. Like, the fucking power of the people, guys. That's it. Even if they say you can't vote, you could still. I couldn't have expected a guy like this guy to be the guy. And I think, you know, we both knew this guy. Like, I had never met him, but I know this guy. This guy, the guy that's in the office.

[Bill Maher]

Is this Trump? Yeah, that's just a sparkling water.

[Seth Green]

This is just sparkling water. I swear. I think it's this. It's this one, right? Somebody say something?

[Bill Maher]

What is that?

[Seth Green]

I'm refilling.

[Bill Maher]

What do you want?

[Seth Green]

I've got another drink.

[Bill Maher]

Oh, that's yours? That's mine, yeah.

[Seth Green]

All right.

[Bill Maher]

What are you drinking?

[Seth Green]

I'm drinking a Moscow Mule. I stayed on vodka. I find it mixes really well with the. The weed.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah. You don't have to apologize for it.

[Seth Green]

No, I was just telling you. I'm just.

[Bill Maher]

You have to give me a reason to drink vodka. You're at Club Random, dude.

[Seth Green]

That's not what this show is. You're not talking about.

[Bill Maher]

Jesus Christ, you could be doing heroin here. You think I would give a shit.

[Seth Green]

If it's not really that true thing? I mean, wouldn't that be crazy?

[Bill Maher]

You know what the most romantic thing a girl ever said to me?

[Seth Green]

Let's hear it.

[Bill Maher]

I once said to the girlfriend, what would you do if I started taking heroin? And she said, start taking heroin? I mean, I thought she was gonna say, I'd get your help. We'd get the best people in the world.

[Seth Green]

I'm really good at needlework.

[Bill Maher]

And, I mean, it's wrong, but it's also, like, the most romantic thing I've ever heard in my life.

[Seth Green]

That is very sweet. Don't you remember that Rock bit? Chris Rock had that bit where he talked about it dovetailed into the whole thing about Clinton getting blowjobs and making the comment that men are only as faithful as their options.

[Bill Maher]

I was the first one to say that. That was my job.

[Seth Green]

I'm not here to debate that. But he.

[Bill Maher]

Men are as loyal as their options.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, yeah, he said that. But the joke that he made that I thought was so funny, he's like, listen, man, if you smoke crack, your wife has to smoke crack. That's okay. That's it. You gotta have the same hobbies. Which I thought was a very funny comment. Pretty accurate.

[Bill Maher]

I know I said that first. You know why? Because I remember who said it to me, who I stole it from.

[Seth Green]

Who's that?

[Bill Maher]

I'm not gonna say the name, but I was living in New York from 1979 to 1982, and I was dating, of course, a waitress in 1982.

[Seth Green]

Remind me to tell you something about.

[Bill Maher]

That in two seconds. I will.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, give it to me.

[Bill Maher]

And she said that to me. Those exact words. Men are only as loyal as their options. I remembered it. I stole it. I used it. What is your story, Waitress?

[Seth Green]

So, Max mom. Max mom. At one point.

[Bill Maher]

Who's Max mom?

[Seth Green]

Macaulay Culkin's mother.

[Bill Maher]

Oh, Mac.

[Seth Green]

Yeah. At one point.

[Bill Maher]

Is he still like your. Your bro from another.

[Seth Green]

Oh, yeah, we're really close.

[Bill Maher]

We're good friends. Really?

[Seth Green]

Yeah. I love that boy.

[Bill Maher]

And how's he doing?

[Seth Green]

He's great.

[Bill Maher]

Really? Sorry.

[Seth Green]

Yeah. He's so wrong. Oh, my God. He's done, like, a little bit of acting. Like, I forced him out of retirement to make this movie.

[Bill Maher]

His mind at.

[Seth Green]

His mind is clear and great. He's.

[Bill Maher]

He doesn't care that he. That the rocket that went up when he was a child didn't stay up.

[Seth Green]

I don't know if you understand. Like, part his. His dad was a. Was not a great dad, but his dad made sure that Mac has money. Mack never had a drug problem. Mack never had a gambling problem. Max still has all that money. And there are so many different points of income for him annually, and he's only introducing new ones. So I gotta tell you, he is of sound mind and body. And, like, not even getting started. Like, he did a bunch of acting stuff, pulled him out of retirement to do this movie in Thailand, and then he was like, oh, I think I like acting. Wound up. It's the best. And people like, you want to do some acting? He did a Vanity Fair cover, got a star on Hollywood Boulevard. Showed up in Righteous Gemstones.

[Bill Maher]

Can you make him come here?

[Seth Green]

Can I make him come here?

[Bill Maher]

Can I talk to him?

[Seth Green]

I'll bet he would chat with you. As long as you don't want to talk about Michael.

[Bill Maher]

I don't.

[Seth Green]

Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

Do I look like I don't think you gender dude?

[Seth Green]

No. He loves comics.

[Bill Maher]

Too late, but I would love to talk to him.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, he'd love to. I bet he'd be down to talk to you, too.

[Bill Maher]

I bet you'd be good for him, too, because people just have no idea who he is. It's like. And look, I understand what you're saying about his father not being a good father. Of course he's not a good father. That kid had to booby trap the house himself. Okay, I'm not gonna do any. I can do any of that.

[Seth Green]

No, no. He loves all that shit. But he does. Yeah. Yeah. He's buddies.

[Bill Maher]

We'll get along.

[Seth Green]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

It'll be so much fun.

[Seth Green]

He loves comics. He's buddies with Jeff Ross. He was buddies with Saget. Tell him to come here.

[Bill Maher]

I'll treat him so good. I never. This is not a gotcha show.

[Seth Green]

It doesn't feel like it.

[Bill Maher]

It's not.

[Seth Green]

Although they're getting drunk. Like, this could easily be Cosby's basement.

[Bill Maher]

Everybody leaves here. The only thing they all have in common is they want to stay longer.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, but we only got 90 minutes, man.

[Bill Maher]

Well, we have whatever we want.

[Seth Green]

How do you cut this show? Do you, like, cut it?

[Bill Maher]

Don't cut it.

[Seth Green]

You just let it run. So if it's, like, too long, the.

[Bill Maher]

Only way we cut it is if the guest complains because we want to be guest friendly.

[Seth Green]

We shouldn't have been.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, but I don't cut anything. They, you know.

[Seth Green]

But we shouldn't talk about Gerbils being a great name for your gerbil.

[Bill Maher]

Gerbil.

[Seth Green]

This is Gerbils the gerbil.

[Bill Maher]

It is a great name, though.

[Seth Green]

It's not bad, right?

[Bill Maher]

A terrible person and really rotten guest.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, yeah, I bet he's just a real bummer. Doesn't have any good stories.

[Bill Maher]

But what about Mac?

[Seth Green]

Oh, this is the best story. So I said to Mac's mom, yeah, I kind of got a crush on this waitress at this bar. And she goes, of course you're gonna have a crush on the waitress because she's serving you. And I was like, ah, that's fair.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, but I mean, we've all had waitresses that were serving us, and we didn't also want to date plenty.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bill Maher]

Mostly the guys.

[Seth Green]

Yeah. Yeah. I was definitely selective in the people that I would give, you know, this. And you probably had the same kind of thing. Like, there was a point in the 90s where I realized that I couldn't predict anyone's purpose in talking to me. You know what I'm saying? I was like, well, I'm very recognizable at this point, to the point where I can't underestimate the reach of that and whether someone would be pursuing me. I had people, even before cell phone cameras and social media, I had a lot of people try to take advantage of me or trick me or, like, rob me, all kinds of crazy shit.

[Bill Maher]

But you get pretty savvy about sussing them out.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, I get to Philadelphia and New York. Like, I got.

[Bill Maher]

Right.

[Seth Green]

I got to make my first movie when I was 8 years old with a lot of very successful people who I.

[Bill Maher]

No, but I'm saying. So the people who weren't sincere, who were trying to get in your drawers. Yes, you kind of get it. Whether it's man for his things, business stuff, or woman, you kind of. I mean, you can do it in a sentence or two.

[Seth Green]

It's true. I got very street smart from all of that, and I think that's why. Because here's the thing. I knew a lot of kids that died. I know a lot of kids that got molested I know a lot of kids that got into all kinds of shit that never happened to me. And I had this moment when I was, you know, in my 20s when all these kids start kind of coming out and talking about it. And I was like, oh, my God, I stayed at that guy's house for a month.

[Bill Maher]

Nobody ever tried to molest you?

[Seth Green]

No. And I had.

[Bill Maher]

Kind of insulting, isn't it?

[Seth Green]

Well, I had that moment to you. I mean, I was like, what the fuck am I? Just, like, so unfuckable?

[Bill Maher]

Like, I mean, that is the conclusion one would have to draw.

[Seth Green]

Yeah. Yeah. So I was like, all right, well, I gotta work harder for this. I just started doing crunches like crazy. You know what I'm saying? Squats all day long, like, just trying to put it out there. Making breakfast with no shirt on.

[Bill Maher]

Maybe a thong.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, yeah, it was.

[Bill Maher]

Can guys wear thongs?

[Seth Green]

Always go to Europe.

[Bill Maher]

But I feel like in the 90s era, early 2000s, I think that's, like, when our time overlapped. These guys who were out a lot.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, right.

[Bill Maher]

When we saw you out, I saw you on.

[Seth Green]

I think I was more monogamous. I saw you on longer periods.

[Bill Maher]

You know what I did when I saw you on? I just kind of.

[Seth Green]

I was like, oh, shit, we did.

[Bill Maher]

It to each other.

[Seth Green]

No, no, I liked it because you were. Because you're smart and you're not crazy, and you're like. There's something about comics, I think, where you inherently love the audience as much as you find a reason to resent them. Like, you. You kind of can't help it. It's what I love about guys like Robin. You just sort of need. You know, life is fucking terrible, and you just sort of want to make people smile sometimes, you know, even if it's, like, feeling not alone. I think that's the thing that comics really share, and I've always related to that.

[Bill Maher]

But somehow we wound up both being the kind of guy who, per the old phrase, would go to the opening of an envelope.

[Seth Green]

I went to a bunch of things. I did go to parties because it was fun. Well, it's also, like I said, it's a little bit like your winter formal or your social at your school. Right. These are our peers, and you sort of just have to.

[Bill Maher]

But, like, I remember. I mean, I didn't. You were younger when it happened to you. I was older, so it was like. I remember the normal life when you would just go to Dingleberry's on Friday night, you know, and hope to get lucky. And now I'm Dingleberry. Dingleberry.

[Seth Green]

You go to residuals.

[Bill Maher]

I get residuals. And there was a great disco anima. Oh, it was fantastic. Three levels. The top was hip hop, then it was 80s. But okay. So you. It's like, okay, but now I'm invited to this thing, which is like red carpet. And, you know, maybe it's a shitty fucking horror movie, but I'm invited.

[Seth Green]

Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

And I'm gonna go. And there was a period.

[Seth Green]

I went to the MTV Awards a bunch because it's crazy. You go to them. You, like, meet Busta Rhymes. I got to meet CeeLo.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah.

[Seth Green]

You know what I mean? It was fun for me. I get to see all these crazy things.

[Bill Maher]

I get to see on a much lower level than the MTV Awards. That's at least an award show. I'm talking about movie premieres and just parties.

[Seth Green]

It had to be somebody I knew. It had to be somewhere I felt safe. We started going out. That club thing really worked. And it was a couple years that we did it just because it was safe. You'd go to a spot. There's this place on La Brea called AD that was really chill, and it was just. We'd roll in there a bunch of. You know, I think I was the oldest at 29.

[Bill Maher]

Are you talking about the 90s? Is this the 90s?

[Seth Green]

It was the end of the 90s, the early 2000s.

[Bill Maher]

I feel like that. Yeah, that was my era to be out a lot, and I feel like.

[Seth Green]

It was just in tighter spaces. I think my focus was on, like, dancing and not getting photographed.

[Bill Maher]

But what about. But you were obviously not married. You were obviously out there.

[Seth Green]

Oh, and I was definitely meeting people.

[Bill Maher]

You were single and ready to mingle.

[Seth Green]

Yeah. Well, also, you. You just like, you. I got invited to, like, the Playboy parties. I got invited to, like, the perfect 10 parties. And all of a sudden, you're in a position where a girl who looks like a photograph is like, I fuck you.

[Bill Maher]

Right.

[Seth Green]

You know what I'm saying? So I definitely. There are plenty of instances where we both got a story to tell for the rest of our lives.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yes. And yeah.

[Seth Green]

As like, a short Jewish kid with red hair named Seth that grew up in West Philadelphia and got constantly his ass kicked with his own, like, pop culture accessories, it was really cool to have girls say, I'd fuck you.

[Bill Maher]

And what is the lesson there? That life evens out. Right?

[Seth Green]

I mean, like, I don't know why. I think for me, the lesson was, man, you gotta have A really good personality. Because you're not gonna pull this off on first glance.

[Bill Maher]

Well, fame.

[Seth Green]

Yeah. But before that, I think the reason I got famous is cause I pushed my personality so hard.

[Bill Maher]

Your fame, your personality comes through in the roles you play. Right. But I mean, let's not gild the lily too much. I mean, it's also just fame. It's also just that there's plenty of.

[Seth Green]

That's my. You know, Warhol's my favorite favorite, because Warhol was the one who really talked about the power of the camera. Talked about, like, the audience's obsession with self, talked about the audience's inevitable individual 15 minutes of fame.

[Bill Maher]

I mean, that is the most prescient thing anybody ever said. Because when you see that everybody has a podcast.

[Seth Green]

Yes.

[Bill Maher]

You know, there's. Everything is so fractured.

[Seth Green]

When was the last time you read 1984? I read it in 16. I read it in 16 when Trump was running. And it was the. You know, the thing that Orwell never presumed was something like the Internet. There was no way to imagine social media. And so it all took the form of the telescreen, which could always be on, which could always be recording. But the main thing was getting down to thought crime. Like a real separation of the classes and the cultures and the point where you thinking something is an arrestable offense and then they go and put you in the car.

[Bill Maher]

But that's a hate crime.

[Seth Green]

Well, so I. Well, this is it, right? We're edging that territory. Well, not edging.

[Bill Maher]

It's been decades since we said we believe in this country that there is such a thing as a hate crime. Now, that's basic liberal dogma. I consider myself a liberal, but I never agreed with that. A hate crime is a hate crime.

[Seth Green]

More punishable than something else.

[Bill Maher]

It's a thought crime, and I don't think we should go down that slope. It's a crime. Is a crime. If you kill somebody, you should be punished for it. The law should not be involved in what is in your mind. Your fucking fucked up mind. I don't really give a shit.

[Seth Green]

I hadn't really thought about it that way, but that's a fair point.

[Bill Maher]

Wow. Thank you, darling. Our anniversary is going to be so much fun.

[Seth Green]

Do you like cake?

[Bill Maher]

All right, well, listen, I. I really enjoyed you.

[Seth Green]

Yeah, it's great to talk to you, man. I had this realization. This is the longest conversation we've ever had.

[Bill Maher]

Oh, by far.

[Seth Green]

Like one on one. Because I would see you in green rooms. Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

Because when we were backstage and saw each other before. We gave each other the look and then went after the hottest girl.

[Seth Green]

Look out there, girl in the room. Well, I'm like, you know, 5, 10, and under is usually where I may make.

[Bill Maher]

Okay. I'm glad I got to know you.

[Seth Green]

Yeah. Good to see you.

[Bill Maher]

I hope I get to know you more.

[Seth Green]

Okay.

[Bill Maher]

All right. I'm gonna go back to my real job.

[Seth Green]

That's sweet. So this is, like, your thing. How long did it take to build this room?

[Bill Maher]

I didn't build it. I bought it.

[Seth Green]

You're kidding. This came on the property already?

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, this was on the property, and it was a mess, but what was.

[Seth Green]

It, like a wine cellar or something?

[Bill Maher]

No, a movie star owned this house. There was a. It was full of. Of video games. Like. Like, it was like an arcade.

[Seth Green]

Right.

[Bill Maher]

And it was just terrible. It was full of termites and mold and. But I just was like, you know, there's a vibe to this place. I mean, look at that crooked door.

[Seth Green]

I love it.

[Bill Maher]

Like, there's some. Somebody, like, did something.

[Seth Green]

It's got some, like, Ruben shape about it.

[Bill Maher]

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[Seth Green]

Is that guy with the binoculars watching you? Us. Cut the camera.

[Bill Maher]

They see us. Only pay for what you [e-mail] Liberty Liberty. Liberty. Liberty Savings. Very underwritten by Liberty Mutual Insurance Company. Affiliates. Excludes Massachusetts. Mike and Alyssa are always trying to outdo each other. When Alyssa got a small water bottle, Mike showed up with a 4 liter jug. When Mike started gardening, Alyssa started beekeeping.

[Seth Green]

Oh, come on.

[Bill Maher]

They called a truce for their holiday and used Expedia trip planner to collaborate on all the details of the trip. Once there, Mike still did more laps around the pool. Whatever. You were made to outdo your holidays. We were made to help organize the competition. Expedia Made to travel.

[Seth Green]

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