Best of NBA News Part 2: Knicks 10-Week NO-SEX RULE + ISO JOE OUT of for entire BIG 3 season + Spurs REFUSING to shake Knicks hands

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Best of NBA News Part 2

Episode Date: June 17, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Panel: Uncle Ocho, Joe Johnson
Notable Topics: Knicks 10-Week NO-SEX Rule, Iso Joe Out for Big 3, Spurs' Postgame Snub, NBA/NBA Trades

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This episode delivers a lively, candid, and wide-ranging discussion on recent NBA headlines, athlete culture, and the intersections of sportsmanship, legacy, and locker-room life. Shannon is joined by Uncle Ocho and Joe Johnson for reactions to everything from viral controversies (the Knicks’ “No-Sex” playoff rule, major trades, handshake etiquette) to deeper questions about player health, social media scrutiny, and even old-school athlete traditions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. SGA Criticism and Social Media’s Influence

[03:02–08:26]

• The hosts dissect recent scrutiny over Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (SGA) and his supposed “foul-baiting.”
• Sam Presti (Thunder GM) described social media as “the sixth defender,” arguing it unfairly singles out star players.
• Shannon Sharpe challenges this take:

  “What about the flailing? Throwing your body all over the place? Ray Charles can see it… Listen, I know you have to defend your player…” (05:08)

• Joe Johnson provides technical insight: SGA is a “bucket getter,” playing through contact, using body control, and maximizing physical advantages—much like great scorers have always done.
• Uncle Ocho and Joe agree that “foul-hunting” is an evolved skill, akin to medicine or ACL recovery in sports: what was once seen as negative becomes a norm as players get better at it.

Notable Quote:

“Every time somebody finds out how to do something over time, they get better at it.”
— Uncle Ocho (07:08)

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2. Comparing Athletic Styles: D. Rose, Westbrook, and NBA Evolution

[10:10–14:12]

• Joe and Ocho reminisce about Derrick Rose’s explosive, acrobatic game, comparing it to Russell Westbrook’s pure aggression at the rim.
• Extended dog analogy:

  “Westbrook, he’s a Belgian Malinois... D. Rose more like a German Shepherd. He gonna figure out how to get around it.” — Joe Johnson (12:31)

• Reflect on how injuries (like Rose’s) impact all-time greats, and how modern recovery has changed expectations of athlete resilience.

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3. WNBA Shoutout: Aces Dominate, Asia Wilson’s Milestone

[17:27–22:16]

• They celebrate Asia Wilson's record-breaking 6,000 points, noting her game’s evolution with a new 3-point shot and continued dominance as a two-way player.
• Praise for the increasing skill level in the WNBA:

  “These women… taking the game to a whole nother level.” — Joe Johnson (19:27)

• Discussion pivots to global talent and how bigs in women’s basketball now stretch the floor, paralleling changes in men’s basketball.

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4. Knicks’ 10-Week No-Sex Rule

[35:04–39:34]

• The panel reacts to news that owner James Dolan implemented a 10-week abstinence rule before the Knicks’ title run.
• Skepticism abounds:

  “You know damn well none of them boys listen to that. NBA players.” — Shannon Sharpe (35:27)

• Jokes fly about player discipline and their own personal experiences with sex vs. athletic performance, aging, and lowered drive, highlighting the real-life changes former athletes face.

Notable Quote:

“Every two or three days? I’m talking about every two or three hours!” — Uncle Ocho (36:14)

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5. Rumors: Giannis to Celtics & Potential Trades

[25:53–34:32]

• The Giannis Antetokounmpo trade rumors heat up—the Celtics reportedly willing to trade anyone but Tatum for him.
• Joe and Ocho dive into the logic: JB (Jaylen Brown) is “doable” and self-made, but trading for Giannis carries risk because of mounting injuries and the need for a new deal.
• Trade machine fun: They break down a proposed three-way deal sending Giannis to Boston, JB to Atlanta, and multiple picks and players elsewhere.
• Debate whether Boston could or should let JB go, given his two-way impact in the recent finals.

“It’s just hard to break up JB and JT because... they gonna be right there in the conference finals or finals.”
— Joe Johnson (27:00)

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6. Sportsmanship & Spurs Refusing to Shake Knicks’ Hands

[53:54–62:31]

• The recent uproar about Spurs players leaving without shaking hands after losing to the Knicks is dissected.
• Reference old NBA customs—Isaiah Thomas, Pistons, and Michael Jordan—suggesting history isn’t so clear-cut.
• Shannon: “You think I want—look, and y’all know I love to talk—but, man, we done got out there and got beat… I know we played like some sloth… But I just understood it was part of the game.” (61:46)
• Mixed feelings: the hosts urge respect and tradition, but also acknowledge this is a new generation and times have changed.

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7. Athlete Wellness, Aging & Testosterone Talk

[39:34–44:10]

• Honest conversation about getting older, physical decline, and testosterone levels.
• Shannon openly discusses a recent “embarrassing” experience, and the crew riff on solutions: diet, supplements, medical checks.
• Humor and humility:

  “I kind of embarrassed myself in New York, bro… About 50 seconds to a minute, boy. A dud. A whole dud.” — Shannon Sharpe (44:11)

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8. Iso Joe Out for “Big 3” Season

[64:29–66:43]

• Joe Johnson updates fans on his season-ending injury and why he’s unable to play in the Big 3.
• Candid about his slow recovery from a torn patella tendon, lower body imbalance, and his left leg’s weakness.
• The group jokes about who is ducking whom on the court and their competitive spirits.

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9. Country Roots—Manual Labor, Fishing & Eating “Anything”

[74:05–95:18]

• Playful contests: who can chop trees, fish, cook, and eat the most exotic (or simply rural) foods.
• Trash talk about who’s really country (“You can’t fish!”), and brags about washing clothes and old-school chores.
• Banter expands into eating wild game and Southern delicacies—Rocky Mountain oysters, raccoon, possum—with each panelist trying to one-up the others’ tales of toughness and “big eating.”

“You don’t know nothing about no ax… If I ain’t win, I ain’t eat.” — Joe Johnson (74:42) “Everything finna get swallowed, boy.” — Shannon Sharpe (91:03)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On SGA’s perceived foul-baiting:
  “Ray Charles can see it.” — Shannon Sharpe (05:08)
• On “No Sex” Rule:
  “You know damn well none of them boys listen to that. NBA players.” — Shannon Sharpe (35:27) “Every two or three days? I’m talking about every two or three hours!” — Uncle Ocho (36:14)
• On declining testosterone:
  “I kind of embarrassed myself in New York… About 50 seconds to a minute, boy.” — Shannon Sharpe (44:11)
• On Spurs Handshake Discourse:
  “If you don’t want to dance in your end zone, keep him out of it… You have to be gracious in victory and in defeat.” — Uncle Ocho (57:16, 57:49)
• Country food challenge:
  “You think cause you eat a lot of booty that your enzymes, your stomach—that what you think? But they ain’t how it work, Joe.” — Shannon Sharpe (87:30) “You ready? Well, everything finna get swallowed, boy.” — Shannon Sharpe (91:03)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• SGA/Social Media Foul-baiting Debate: [03:02–08:26]
• Rose vs. Westbrook Athleticism: [11:42–14:12]
• Asia Wilson and WNBA Evolution: [17:27–22:16]
• Giannis Trades/Jaylen Brown Debate: [25:53–34:32]
• Knicks No-Sex Rule & Athlete Aging: [35:04–44:10]
• Spurs Handshake & Sportsmanship: [53:54–62:31]
• Iso Joe’s Injury Update: [64:29–66:43]
• Country Challenges (Fishing, Chopping, Cooking): [74:05–95:18]

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Tone & Style

• The episode is conversational, humorous, and unfiltered—true to Club Shay Shay’s locker-room-cum-barbershop energy.
• Panelists combine technical basketball analysis with personal stories, playful jabs, and nostalgia.
• Issues of respect, tradition, and generational change are frequently examined but always with warmth and wit.

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For listeners new and old, this episode is a snapshot of athlete brotherhood and unvarnished sports talk—heavy on laughs, deep on insight, unpredictable on where the next story might go.

Transcript

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[Shannon Sharpe]

I turned off news altogether.

[Uncle Ocho]

I hate to say it, but I

[Joe Johnson]

don't trust much of anything.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people. We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America. What's up, y'?

[Shannon Sharpe]

All?

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[Uncle Ocho]

Spoke on the criticism towards SGA. Let's take a listen to what Mr. Presti had to say relative to Shay and the narrative on that. You know, he's. He's playing against six people, he's got five defenders, and the sixth defender is social media. And you know that's a reality. And he's not going to be the last player that the machine decides to target. But no one's gonna handle this gracefully because when they turn it on somebody else, they're not gonna step up there every night and not acknowledge it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, what do you mean, the machine? What do you mean, social media? So what the machine is talking about, what social media is talking about is exactly what he does game by game. He does it every night. What are we talking about? I'm sure, Mr. Presley, that's your player. You have to defend your player. But the eye in the sky doesn't lie, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

You saying what you saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You.

[Joe Johnson]

You saying he out there? Foul, baby.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, Listen, listen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is Mr. Preston.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, I'm not saying. I'm not saying sometimes, you know, he don't over exaggerate, you know, and try and get calls. But man, that damn game seven, he ain't do no damn foul baiting. That man was getting straight buckets. Listen, but what I'm saying is this is a part of who he is and what he's done over the past three to four or five years, fellas, you know what I mean? He's a bucket getter. He creates a lot of contact. He plays through contact. He actually plays off of contact by lowering his shoulder. Not overextending, but using them bumps to create space. That's legal space. Separation legal, bro. That's what people don't understand. Like, you can use your forearm, your shoulders, your hip, hips to create space. Long as I don't overextend, I can brace myself.

[Uncle Ocho]

The same thing with us, Ocho. How we do that, how we get our dvd.

[Joe Johnson]

I just think he's so good at it, bro, and he's perfected it that now it's a problem. You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, Joe, that's not a problem. What you just explained, there are a lot of players that have that in their toolbox. What about the failing? The throwing your body all over the place trying to create the fouls and get the foul Calls. That is what he does all the time. I see it. You see it. Ray Charles can see it. I don't know if Mr. Presti watches. Listen, I know you have to defend your player, but the point to where everybody is mimicking some of the stuff he does globally, around the world, and making fun of it.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, look, Ocho, it's a part of who he is. But he's right when he say that machine. Because social media points out, they break down your game, bro. They break your whole game down. And they might clip. They may clip form you all the way up for 5, 10 minutes of you pushing off, creating space. And now, quite naturally, if a referee sees it, he gonna watch it. You know what I mean? So he just planting that seed.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, like you said, Joe. Uncle Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There's too many seeds out there, Joe. It's too many seeds being planted because we continuously see the same thing over and over and over. As great as he is, he's one that knows how to manipulate his body, manipulate defenders and get calls.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, he does. And I think the thing is now is that what Sam is saying is that because you have social media and because you have everybody that has a platform, even though obviously some people platforms are larger. So some people have five followers, some people got 500,000, some people got millions. And so now when you get everybody that they feel they're a head coach, they feel their former player, they feel like they're a GM or an analyst, and they put all they can put this, a compilation together and say, look. Look at this. I guarantee you, if I go back over the year, Ocho, I can find something. See, I told y' all Ocho was nasty. I told y' all Ocho was nasty.

[Joe Johnson]

Look at it right here.

[Uncle Ocho]

Look what he doing. And so that's what they do, Ocho. They take all your faults and they compile them together, and it's like, well, damn, y' all do realize this is over a span of a year. Over span, over two years. Y' all make it seem. They make it seem like if all in one game. But like you said, anytime somebody finds out how to do something over time, they get better at it. And so now you get a situation where guys are perfected it and it almost looks like a play. It looks like. It looks like they normally. It looks like they normal. Like, damn, bro, how you do that? But they've gotten so good because they've seen so many players do it, and they get better and better. It's just like medicine. Can you Imagine the first guy that got his ACL worked on Ocho. Boy, he. Boy, that Joe ain't never Ocho. The first guy that got his. The first guy that got his Achilles, they done gotten better. Think about it. Ocho, that was a death sentence. If you got. You got an acl. It ruined Gail affairs. It was ruining players. Now guys coming back and having Tom Brady acl. Nope. You never know it. Adrian Peterson. You never know it. Guys have ACL now and they did nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Ojo, man, toe up with that shoulder. Hitting them with that shoulder and creating that little space, knocking them off. Battling, huh? Come on, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you gonna do me like that?

[Joe Johnson]

Well, you. Hey, hey. I'm gonna think somebody throwing stuff the way when I hit you with that shoulder, I'm telling you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Joe, when I'm sitting in that chair, I ain't going nowhere. Once I anchor down, I ain't going nowhere, Joe. But hey, hey, one more thing. One more thing.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I love Shay, Unc and Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, for sure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I love his game. I like it. I would love for him to play through contact a little bit more without flailing.

[Uncle Ocho]

I mean, he's too frail to do that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He is so great at what he does. It's one thing to be able to create separation and it's one thing to flop when creating separation. There's a huge difference. It's a huge difference.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ojo. It's like a receiver. All receivers can't play through contact now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, listen, I'm picking up what he put down.

[Uncle Ocho]

Everybody, hey, everybody can't play through contact.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. I like that one. I like that one.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, he did so, you know,

[Shannon Sharpe]

he overdo it a little bit. He just overlooked. I'm doing just a tad.

[Joe Johnson]

That's because, you know what?

[Uncle Ocho]

You.

[Joe Johnson]

You've seen him play so much and that's just his game, bro. He gets his mid range, he create the space. He gonna shoot that MIDI all day long. He ain't gonna shoot a whole lot of damn threes. He'll get to the cup, shoot a couple floaters. He may dunk it now and then, you know, get you a couple layups. But for the most part, he operating right in the mid range area. And that comes with a lot of physicality, meaning him using his strength or using your strength against you, using your aggressiveness against you. You know what I mean? He is the best at that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And look at it. I mean, his lower extremities. If you look at him, if you have been at a game and you look at Him. His quads, he got. He got nice quads. Quads on him to be. To be as angular and as slim as he is now, his upper body is really nothing, but if you look at him from waist down, you like, okay, I can see how you move.

[Joe Johnson]

Got a nice, strong base.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, he do. Yeah. Yeah. Jaw is another one. You look at Jaws. If you look at Job and waist up, you're like, damn. You look at Job from waves down, you're like, okay. I can see why you can elevate like that. I can see why you can play off contact the way you does contort your body. Cause, man, I ain't never seen nobody contort the only guy I've seen, and I never see him play in person with Derrick Rose, how he can contort his body. He get up in the air and he twisting.

[Joe Johnson]

He all over here, and he all ocho. It wasn't none of them better than him at that.

[Uncle Ocho]

D. Rose.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man. When you talking about attacking the. Attacking the rim, bro, I'm talking about. It may look like he out of control, but he. He in control. Like, he was so explosive. He had so much torque to his body, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I mean? I think that's kind of ultimately why I end up giving out. He was just. He had so much torque in that body, bro. I'm telling you, that boy was mean, man. I played a playoff series against the year he won mvp. He was the youngest mvp. We played against him in the second round, man. That boy. That was serious, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Joe, who was more explosive going to the basket or putting the ball on the floor? Going to the basket, Derrick Rose or Russell Westbrook?

[Joe Johnson]

Russell Westbrook was, like, more ferocious. He was just like. He trying to straight go through you. It just like. He was just.

[Uncle Ocho]

He beast mode with a basketball.

[Joe Johnson]

He just was sick with it. He just had that mentality. D. Rose, you know, he had a real pretty floater. I don't know if y' all really know, but he had a hell of a floater.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, he had a hell of a floater.

[Joe Johnson]

But he would dunk you. But he would lay you even though he could dunk you. You know what I mean? As opposed to Westbrook every night. I'm really. You know what I mean? That man ain't.

[Uncle Ocho]

Russ said, I'm getting. Russ said, I'm getting to the rim, and I'm not going around you. Yeah, I'm going to the rim. He's like, I'm. Hey, you see that right there behind you? I'm going there and I'm not going around you.

[Joe Johnson]

Absolutely. Absolutely. Hey, hey, hey. This almost for my dog lovers out there. It's like Russell Westbrook, he's a. He's a Belgian Mollenwire. You tell him, go get that dude on. He jumping through the window. Gary Rose, more like a German shepherd. He gonna figure out how to get around it without. You know what I mean? Like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, well, bad man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Also, I recommend do not get a Belgian Malinois unless you have time. Unless you have space. That is not a dog for somebody. This is. Oh, I just know he'll tear your house up. That dog has boundless, boundless energy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Energy.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's meant. It's meant to be. It meant to be to burn working energy. And if it doesn't burn that energy outside, it's gonna burn that energy in your house and it's gonna turn your house up. So I'm just giving you a little advice on all these little cute and cuddly dogs that you see. Oh, I like him. Understand what that dog. The dog was bred Belgian. Ain't nothing to be. And if you're not gonna allow that dog to do that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, leave it alone.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Get him.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

You got. People get dogs that they run away. Well, why the dog hurting my kids? Cuz that's what it's doing. You won't let him do that outside, so it's gonna do that. Have your kids huddled up in the corner. Yeah, but look, I think the thing is also, guys, if OKC is still playing or if OKC had. You know what? Sam Preston is not having these comments. He's trying to take some of this off. It's like, look, don't even worry about it. Shay, do continue to do what you do. Let me fight this battle.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And like Shay said, Shay's like, oh, I'm gonna hear it. I'm not gonna. I'm not. I'm not the first guy that. They said Jordan got calls. They said Bron got called. They said Kobe got called. They said James Harden, great players normally get calls. Who the hell you think gonna score 30 points and don't shoot no damn free throws, Right? Yeah. A guy averaged 30 points more times than not. Unless you KD, you're shooting about 10 free throws a game for sure.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't give a damn who you are. I don't care if you Jordan, I don't care if you Kobe. I don't care if you LeBron, you Shay, you Luka, James Harden, you shooting that many Free. Unless you Kevin Durant, unless you're Steph Curry.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you shooting that many free throws, you got it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Because those guys love to score the ball so much that you have to find different ways to create points. Because when you're at the top of the scouting report, everything revolves around you not letting you get comfortable, you know what I mean? Denying you the ball. So every night you gonna probably have a different challenge, you know what I mean? And Unc, I don't know, I think if they were still playing right now, Unk, I think that that music right there would be a little louder because people will still be talking about him, foul baiting and all that. Cause his game ain't gonna change, you know what I mean? He is who he is.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, no, why would I change it? I'm having.

[Joe Johnson]

But I'm saying if they had made it to the finals, I think that's it.

[Uncle Ocho]

You probably right. Cause people gonna say that's how they made it to the final.

[Joe Johnson]

So he can't win. You know what I mean? He just gotta continue to keep dominating.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, that'd be like Ocho. That'd be like you trying to change your game to play like Julio Brandon Marshall, one of these big physical receivers, trying to play Tio, trying to play. Hell no. My job, I'm playing on edges. I ain't letting you get your damn hands on me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you know I would end up trying to play with them. Play on the sideline over there by the Gatorade.

[Uncle Ocho]

You gonna be a gunner. You see how them guys have them gunners hemmed up, throwing their ass all on the bench. Yeah, you gotta realize the guys that play physical, look how big Julio was. Look how big to was. Look how big Brandon Marshall was. Look at the size. Brandon Marshall, 64230. Julio 632-25-63215. Megatron, 65241. Yeah, they can play the contact. Yeah, but why, why am I gonna try to play like that when I'm 185 1? Man, please get out of here. Are you scared? But yeah, I am. You're right.

[Commercial Announcer]

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[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, but guess what? Them playing physical and me playing on edges. We're getting the same results in the end zone on you.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

So that's what I tell people. Look, I gotta. I have to use what I have to be successful. I can't play like everybody else.

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Play.

[Uncle Ocho]

What would I mean? Yes. If I'm going up against a corner or safety. Yeah, I'm gonna play the contact. I'm Going up against a backer. Why would I play that way against a backer? And he's outweighing me by 10, 15 pounds to try to prove a point. How tough I am, why I'm in the league. I'm plenty tough enough. Damn, y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, we don't get no points, right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Y' all gotta be beat. Aces topped the Storm, 101 to 91. Asia Wilson had herself a game, guys, 34 points, 12 rebounds, nine assists, three blocks. Jackie Young added 29 points. Asia became the fastest player in WNBA history to score 6,000 points, doing it in 13 fewer games than Diana Taurasi. Asia did it in 271. I mean, excuse me, 278 DT did it in 291. She was 10 of 19 from the field. I don't know if y' all noticed, but you working on MVP number.

[Joe Johnson]

What's their record?

[Uncle Ocho]

I think they lost three. They lost three or four games, Ash. Eight and three.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Jackie yelling and got it going now.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. You know, I guess she has some things off the field, some off the field, off the court. She got that rectified. She been cooking ever since.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they got a nice squad, bro. They got a nice squad. Well, I always, always. I always expect the Aces to be there. I mean, when you got a big. I feel like if you got a big. In the WNBA and she is dominant as Asia is, it's. It's. You know, you gonna be. You're gonna be projected. You know, be one of the top teams. It's not the top team every year.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And they gotta figure it out. They gotta figure it out.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man, they got. Jackie had 29, Chelsea had 12, Asia 34. Smith had 16. They. What they. When they get Kennedy Carter back? Because Kennedy Carter was gonna be the sixth woman off the go.

[Joe Johnson]

What she did. She got hurt. She hurt?

[Uncle Ocho]

I think so. I think so, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

But you know what? Hey, I'm looking at Asia, if you notice, Joe, she's added that three ball to a game.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep. She was three for five tonight. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Remember the other time? Damn, I wish you could have got that triple double. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, in today's game, bro, it ain't just the men out here expanding their game. These women, man, they taking the game to a whole nother level. Uncle Ocho. Hey, hey. These big girls ain't just out here. They ain't just in the paint no more. You know, you got a lot of

[Uncle Ocho]

girls, and that's what. And that's why a lot.

[Joe Johnson]

A lot of girls coming from overseas to play over here in this league. Them girls can shoot them. They can shoot that ball, boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, man, look here. And she's still the best defensive player while y' all bull jiving.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Uncle Ocho]

she the best. Hey, Two Way, give it to you. Like I said, I. I've seen. Look, I grew.

[Tab Ramos]

I was.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm old. The NW NBA came in and I know all the great players. To me now, if you want to say college, I would say Stewie is probably more accomplished. When you win four championships in college, four most outstanding players, you a two or three time player of the year. And she's a two time mvp and she's won finals and she. Okay, but I'm talking about this right here. Now that she got that three ball in the bag. You know she got a midi. She got the three ball. Now, you know she got as good a post game and that we have currently in the wnba.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep, yep.

[Uncle Ocho]

And she give it to you on the other end. Bring it in if you want to hot out.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

And she got a mean pump fake too. Her pump fake. That shot face. She got that thing mean, boy. That thing mean.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, she'll pump that face up and get on eight.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Uncle Ocho]

And what she got, her competition in the off season is Bam. She said if I can score 2, 3 points on BAM, y' all ain't got nothing. Y' all chicks ain't got nothing. Y' all got no chance. Zero. All I needed to scope, I need to see two or three go in. Yeah, y' all ain't got nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, Bam. Hey, hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

Y' all got Bam taking it easy

[Joe Johnson]

on Ocho on the court.

[Uncle Ocho]

What she said, Bam. Hold on now. You got a real last night. Come on now. Hey, hey, if you don't want to sleep on the couch, back your ass up a little bit, jump off. Because you know, Bam is an outstanding. Bam is an outstanding one on one defender against guys. Yeah, so. But I'm saying she's like, hey, I working on him. And I'm. I'm. Hey, I'm working on my post game against him. I'm working on my punk thing against him. Well, if I could, if I could, if I can do anything against Bam, what you think I'm gonna do against you? But she. Hey, she my favorite player. She my favorite player to watch. I try to. I always try to watch her. I gotta give to her. I gotta get to her.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Uncle Ocho]

I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people. We got clear facts. Maybe we can calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America Protect your

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[Uncle Ocho]

Yanis the Boston rumors oh Joe, they're heating back up. Kevin o' Connor reignited the Giannis trade discourse with an eye opening updates on the Celtics interest in the Milwaukee buck superstar. O' Connor said the C's are willing to part ways with all but one of their players. I've heard Boston is shopping people around a lot now that Boston is making calls. Boston is open to trading anybody besides Jason Tatum, and that doesn't necessarily mean they'll land Giannis at the end of the day. But I do believe based on everything and all the conversations I had is that the Celtics are in on Giannis and that they are making a push on him. This feels very, very real to me. Joe. Many have thought about this. Many says. Look, let's just say for the sake of argument, it's right here. Jt, jb.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

All things being equal, I've always felt they would trade JB before they ever got rid of jt.

[Joe Johnson]

Right, right.

[Uncle Ocho]

I've always felt that. Let me know what your thoughts are and what your thoughts are on this potential trade.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, yeah, I think it has to be some truth to this rumor, Uncle Ocho, because it's been circling and man, if Boston can get Giannis, obviously you gotta trade jb. I don't know man. I mean that's, you know, that's, that's a hell of a pickup. I'm not gonna lie to you. I know him and I think him and Jaylen Brown are two totally different players. It's just hard to break up JB and JT because I think they both won a and if both complete if both guys are healthy, you know they gonna be right there in the conference finals or in the finals.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Every.

[Joe Johnson]

Every year. No if, ands or bus about it. I think the question is because the injuries have been kind of mounting up on Giannis the past few years. You know, he's been hurt a lot. And jb, he plays, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

He ain't if he's nothing but doable, he's doable if nothing else, but he's turned himself into an all NBA player. We know he won a Finals mvp. We know he won a Larry Bird Eastern Conference mvp. But he showed last year that he can carry a team.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And I think. I think that's what took his trade value up too. If y' all want me to be honest, I think that's ugly value. I've been hearing reports that, you know, it may be like a three team trade. I've been hearing Atlanta's trying to get him down here.

[Uncle Ocho]

I've been hearing J.B. giannis. JB.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, yeah, but I. I've been hearing a bunch of rumors, man, but for sure, Milwaukee is going to trade Giannis and he gonna shake. He gonna shake up the Eastern Conference. For sure.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Because here's the thing. You hear all these trades, you've never heard Jason Tatum name mentioned in any trade, have you?

[Joe Johnson]

Nope.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's always who jb.

[Joe Johnson]

And I wonder, Hey, I wonder is. I wonder since he's been streaming lately, you know, JB been streaming?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Does that play, does that play a role into them wanting to trade him too?

[Uncle Ocho]

Man, they want. They wanted to move that, man. They've always. They've always felt that Jason Tatum was the better of the two players.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But baby, listen. But without jb, Uncle Ocho, you don't. You don't. You don't beat the Mavericks and that. You don't beat the Mavericks in the

[Uncle Ocho]

final, in the finals. Because JB did a number on you, Luca.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. You ain't gonna. You're not gonna get that. As great as Giannis is, you're not gonna get that full court press like that, you know, man to man, in your face. Ed can come down and get a bucket. A two way. Yeah, he a two way guy. He gonna give you some block shots. Hell, he gonna give you about 15, 16 damn rebounds a night playing, playing with the Celtics. I'm gonna say anywhere from 25 plus points, he's gonna be terrific. You just gotta hope you can keep him healthy. He can stay on the Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's my, That's My concern, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

The last couple of years, the injuries are starting to come with greater regularity and they're starting to keep him out for longer periods of time.

[Joe Johnson]

Time. Absolutely. Absolutely. That worries me, too.

[Uncle Ocho]

And normally old people don't get healthier as they age. I'm just. Look, I understand the Boston's gonna like, look. And plus the thing is, is that Yanis is gonna want a new deal and the deal is gonna have to be done before. Before you. Before you trade for him. Because you'd be a damn fool to trade for Giannis with one year left on that contract and not got a long term deal. You'll be a damn fool. Yeah, exactly. So that deal. A deal is going to have to already be in place or the parameters of a deal going to have to already be. But I wouldn't take that because you remember Boozer, he pulled a fast one over. He pulled a fast one on Cleveland.

[Joe Johnson]

Cleveland? Yeah. And signed with Utah. Yeah, when they let him out or did he took a fast one on Utah and signed with Cleveland?

[Uncle Ocho]

No, he signed. It put a fast one on Cleveland. And you. Hey, and you know who, you know who his agent was?

[Tab Ramos]

Oh,

[Uncle Ocho]

who was his agent? Ash? I give you one guess. He might be working for the Lakers, right?

[Joe Johnson]

Polinka,

[Uncle Ocho]

Because they. Because they understood his value. They say, you know what we want to get. They say if you let us. If you let us opt out.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I remember that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, we'll sign back with.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, they let him out.

[Uncle Ocho]

They really let him get out. And guess what? He did right? To Utah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they had a deal in place already.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, where'd they go get that bag, man?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

So, man, I mean, I like. I mean to see the way JB has grown over the last year, the way he's improved his game. He was always super athletic, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

But now he's got the three ball. He could always finish. Yeah, Tremendous bounce.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Can go. Hey, hey, can score on anybody. He can do a little bit of everything, bro. A hell of. Just a hell of a player. For real. Damn. I can't believe Boston gonna let him get up out of that old.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I guess y' all didn't know. Y' all didn't know that, huh? Y' all didn't know that about. I shouldn't even brought it up. That was that. I. I don't even know why I brought that up. Joe O. Joe ain't none of my business. I follow Lee real closely, Joe. I've been following Lee for A while.

[Joe Johnson]

I see. I see. Oh. Oo say, you've been watching basketball 1912.

[Uncle Ocho]

I do remember. I do remember. The first thing I could kind of remember is like the Portland beating the 76ers in the NBA Finals.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Even though it was. It was tape delayed. Yeah. And the Sixers had to lead. Had a 20 lead. And then. And then Portland come back and win four straight.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn. Yep. Go Spurs.

[Uncle Ocho]

I think it was. I think the supersonic. Nah, the bullets won in 78, and then the supersonics, I think, went in 79.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, them. Damn. New York has been partying since game two. Hell, they hell.

[Uncle Ocho]

They hell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wait till you see the party tomorrow.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, ain't gonna be one tomorrow.

[Uncle Ocho]

All right, here it is. Here's the three. The three team reported trade. Joe sends Giannis to Boston, Jalen Brown to Atlanta. Boston gets Giannis and the Hawks 2029 first round pick, and the Hawks get a 2027 second round pick. Milwaukee gets white, Kaminga two hogs the 2026, first two future Celtics first. Atlanta gets Brown and dang. I guess. I guess Richard, as they say his name. Richard. Richard.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You saying Atlanta giving him up?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. To Milwaukee. With. With White. With Derrick white, Richard Kaminga two Hawks, 2026 first. Uh. 2026 first.

[Joe Johnson]

Uh.

[Uncle Ocho]

And two future Celtics first.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, them folks don't want to see JB and JJ together down here. They don't want. Hey, we gonna act a fool. They gonna act. Hey, we gonna act a fool. Boy, the house gonna be back for real while y' all playing.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, Speaking of Sparks, two days after the Knicks claimed their first NBA title in 53 years, Mikhail Bridges confirmed owner James Dolan issued a 10 weeks no sex man prior to the team's big win. 10 weeks.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hold on. I mean, I hear. You hear. Oh, you know, the fight game and Joe, you've heard fighters, they go away and no sex. And they want to build that testosterone. Ten weeks.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you know damn well none of them boys listen to that. NBA players.

[Joe Johnson]

You don't think so Ojo. The majority. Hold on. The majority of them guys on the Knicks, though, they married, Huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

I ain't got nothing to say.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, y' all ain't got nothing to say? Y' all don't think. Y' all don't think. Them dudes. Y' all don't think they.

[Uncle Ocho]

I do.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

10 weeks a long time, though.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it is. It is. Especially when you used to going like,

[Uncle Ocho]

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When you go hard in the Paint.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

You say hey badly.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, See, hey, I know that probably. I know that's hard for you on Ocho, because y' all thinking, like, here about every two, three days. I need. I need to. I need to make this thing throw up. You know what I'm saying?

[Uncle Ocho]

Every two or three days. I'm talking about every two or three hours. Damn. You talking about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you know what? Hey, Joe, I don't know what's wrong with me. I'm not as active as I used to be. You know, once every two weeks, maybe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I don't know what's wrong with me. I'm be honest, you know, we family. I can talk to y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know I play around a lot, but you can tell by my voice and my delivery. I'm not joking. Like, you know, once every two weeks. Sometime, maybe twice in two weeks. I don't know why. Maybe because I'm on the go so much,

[Joe Johnson]

and wifey, she ain't. She don't live with you, do she?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, she. She often. It feels like she live with me, you know?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know. Okay. Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Look here. As I've gotten older, there are things, you know, I don't have the same level of appetite.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't. You know, I don't work out like I want to, but that there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, you know, you thinking. Cause I'm older now, uncle,

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I don't

[Uncle Ocho]

know what your problem is. That ain't got nothing to do with me, Ocho. You need to figure that out. You need to talk to somebody about that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm just thinking how it was. Hey, hey, hey, Joe. I'm thinking about how it was in my 20s and 30s.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

As opposed to how I am now, where it's like, most of the time I initiate stuff, but when it does happen, she has to be the one to initiate everything. I think age catching up to me, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

You think so?

[Uncle Ocho]

Don't get me wrong, but I guess I can. I can afford to tamper it back, right?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

I mean, let's just say you say boat still fast.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

He ain't what he once was, but

[Joe Johnson]

he's still fast, Right, Right. Yeah, yeah, I get your drift. I get it, I get it. I get it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It might be something wrong with me, bro. I don't know.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, ain't nothing wrong with me. You probably just want to go a lot. Got a lot going on, you know? I mean, you can't. Yeah, you already know. You can't be. Still can't. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Hey,

[Uncle Ocho]

can't you be on the right day? Hey, hey, Hercules, Hercules, Hercules. Do the right thing.

[Joe Johnson]

It's.

[Uncle Ocho]

I mean, look, look, man, you know, Ocho, look, good times don't over either us anything. You know, I think the thing is that when. You know what, you know, being professional athletes and having. You're like, it's not the same. But, you know, once you sit, I might not even be hungry, right? Once you set the table, I'm gonna eat. I'm gonna eat a belly full.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know, hey, let me get some of the mashed potatoes. Let me get some of them, you know, Let me get some Hawaiian rolls, you know, Hey, I take a slice of ham.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, let me get some turkey. Oh, oh, I take oxtail.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Cornbread, too.

[Joe Johnson]

I'll take a slice of cornbread.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

A little bit of this, a little bit of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, There you go. Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

But I don't know what is wrong with you, Ocho, but maybe, you know what? Maybe your testosterone levels are low. You might need to go get your testosterone levels checked.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, y' all told me to take them supplements. And don't them supplements help with that?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, no, this what this was going on. I'm starting to put two and two together. See, you eat a lot of McDonald's,

[Uncle Ocho]

so it lowers your testosterone level.

[Joe Johnson]

It lowers your testosterone level because you ain't getting the proper proteins that you need in your body. Magnesium, sodium. Ain't no way you getting out. Hey, look, you ain't getting the right fibers in your body. Yeah, man, you need to get right, homeboy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, you got to realize you were. You were an athlete, and so you had to build that testosterone and plus your adrenaline level. So you had that fight or flight. Think about how many times you had that fight or flight. Yeah, you just burned through that reserve.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Boy, you think you damn. Probably at zero now with. Yo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, damn. Y' all sound like I ain't got no hope.

[Uncle Ocho]

You got hope now.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm just saying it's still time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Joe, y'.

[Uncle Ocho]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all supposed to send me the supplements to take, man, that. That provide all the magnesium and stuff.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, no, but your eating habits.

[Uncle Ocho]

You cannot exercise a bad diet in a situation like that. The question is yours. Yeah, I mean, what do you want to do, Ocho? You want to be like. I'm not saying it's going to cut. I mean, but it'll be better than what it Is do you want your levels to come back to what they were or close to what they were? Obviously, once you hit 30, your testosterone level start to dip.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, what? Doug Flutie and Frank Thomas taking that commercial? Nah, that's what it's about, ain't it?

[Uncle Ocho]

That's. That's. You got to be careful with that. You got to make sure. You got to do blood work. You got to get all that stuff taken care of because, you know, black people, black men, especially black men, have a high rate of prostate cancer.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

So you got to be careful.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. You gotta slow down on them glizzies. Yeah, you gotta slow down, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I had. Had two at. At.

[Joe Johnson]

See, I'm talking about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, at the stadium. See, I'm talking about making big man. Making fun of me eating my hot dogs. But you ain't gonna. You ain't gonna dress it up or nothing. Oh, no. Somebody. Hey, hey. They making fun of me because I'm eating my hot dogs. Playing. I mean, condiments cost. I ain't paying for that, too.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man. Man.

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You.

[Uncle Ocho]

Because as a young man, you produce bounds and bounds.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, once you hit 30. Yeah, that's why you got to change something, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I'm gonna hit 50.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's why you can't lose weight like you once could. That's why you can't cut up like you once could, because your body don't produce the testosterone that it once did. That's why it's easy for a man to get in shape than a woman, because a man has higher testosterone level, produce estrogen. Estrogen. That's why it's easy for a man. That's why you hear women say, man, you don't drop 10, 15 pounds in a month. Two months.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

It take me a year to do you lose that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

You have big muscles. Big muscles require energy. Energy burns fat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The doctor could describe some testosterone pills for your boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Now, you would have to get blood work.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I could do that. You know, I like. I like needles.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, but you got. You gotta have. You gotta. You gotta clean up your eating habits, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, I. I could. I could. I McDonald's once a week. Then I won't do it like, three. Three.

[Uncle Ocho]

Three.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Four times a week. I could do that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. But I gotta worry about it.

[Uncle Ocho]

I mean, if you want. If you want. If you want to come back, if you wanna put down a ream demonstration like, three, four times a week like you once could.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, okay. Okay. Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. He ain't ready to make that change. I could tell. I could tell. I could tell. I could tell.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. I see the hesitation that. I see the hesitant.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, listen, I'm. Hey, I'm willing to do anything to improve my life, you know? Anything, you know? You know, I mean, you know, that one time. That one time every two weeks is. Oh, hey, that's a demonstration in itself.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what? I kind of embarrassed myself in New York, bro. I kind of embarrassed myself in New York.

[Joe Johnson]

What happened, man?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, hey, but about. About 50. 50 seconds to a minute, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

A dud. A whole dud.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

50 seconds.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Too excited.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was rough, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Too damn exciting.

[Uncle Ocho]

Premature.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was ugly, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, Ocho, it don't make you no bad brother, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Honestly.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, yeah, I have now. I mean, you. I was much younger.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I had.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know, that's why you got to control your breathing. Yeah, yeah. I'd be. I'd be thinking about something else. I mean, I'd be like, oh, man, that's an elephant. I can't be thinking about what I'm thinking, man. Please.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it was tough, boy. It was sad, you know?

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, ain't nothing you can say, man. Just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I tried to make an excuse. I was like, damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, just roll over, take a nap, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And she. She held me tight, though. She held me tight.

[Uncle Ocho]

You already know.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, hey, Joe. You already know it's a bad time when she started just kissing it. Oh, baby, it's okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Just get off me, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I was. I was a little discouraged, but just for her to hold me and, you know, rub my head and stuff, man, it's gonna be all right. So.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. She rubbing your back like you're a child, like your mama. Your grandma used to do your back. It's okay, baby.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Damn. You ain't. You ain't bounced back. You ain't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what the testosterone come in at.

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[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you. You couldn't catch your second win?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, I ain't had no. Yeah, it was rough, boy. It was rough.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

See, you know, back. Hey, you know, back. Back in the day, you used to pull A double or triple?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Triple.

[Uncle Ocho]

You can pull a triple shift.

[Joe Johnson]

Triple with no problem.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, with no problem at all.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Now look at you. Now look at you. Pull up the double shift, ask you to work overtime. You'll work overtime. I don't work two days straight as it is.

[Joe Johnson]

Out there fighting for your life.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hard, but it's fair.

[Uncle Ocho]

Sad, but it's true. Better you to me, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I know. Yeah, it's all good. Don't. Don't make fun of me now. Don't.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't make no fun of you. Look, it could happen at any given moment.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

It's gonna happen to plenty of people in the chat, I'm sure, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

They can. They can relate.

[Joe Johnson]

They can relate.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but. But not at my big age, Joe. At my big age.

[Uncle Ocho]

Just be. Just be glad. Just be glad it still work at you.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello. Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you're right. You're right.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello. Right, because I.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, it gonna be a time. Ain't no time soon. Well, they ain't gonna be able to do nothing but look at ob. Mama.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man. Don't.

[Uncle Ocho]

Or I give them two popsicle stick to the rubber band. You just put the popsicle stick together that rubber band. That's all I got for you, mama. I'mma keep it one. That's all I got. I'm sorry.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, you got them old people. You see them on the porch? Joe and O, just rocking, rocking back and forth, baby. You remember?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I sure do.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's just a figment of my imagination.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn. I'm gonna bounce back, though, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

But I'm saying, go to the doctor, get your blood work done, Let him see where your levels are. Hey, they got. They got something to help you out. Yeah, but the problem is, Ocho, once they. Once you go to the doctor and he get your levels back up, boy,

[Joe Johnson]

be hard. It's gonna be hard to tame him, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

He go hard. It's harder to a. It's gonna be hard to turn it off.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She got. Hey, don't she got insurance now she got insurance.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, well, cat boy, see that wheel? See that wheelchair up in the corner? Talk about what you got a wheelchair for? Tomorrow you'll find out. Oh, damn, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man. Hey, just. Just reminisce.

[Joe Johnson]

How.

[Uncle Ocho]

How. Cambodia.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, 38, 39.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay, so she like seven, eight years younger than you. I know, Joe. Your people. Hey, and then, you know. Hey, where, Please.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. What? What?

[Uncle Ocho]

What? You get that sweet spot by 35 or 45. Yeah, yeah, man, you talking About. I'm talking about they. They thinking the wheelchair. Rubber. And you know, Wheelchair. I got. No. Yeah, Ocho. Going to the doctor.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Get your blood work done.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I got you. Yeah, I got you. I got you.

[Uncle Ocho]

You'll be all right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Be all right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I do. I got.

[Uncle Ocho]

But just go ahead and tell her beforehand because she gonna be like, well, you. You ain't never performed like this before.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, no, no, they know, you know, in the beginning, you know, when you first meet. Huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

This ain't no first meet. This when you 22. This is when you a teenager.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Ocho, I could summons it up, you know, on the first time.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho, she gonna look back at you and say, what is wrong with you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on now.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, Ocho. Like your boy they all in the closet looking upon his face. Come on. Who helped you? Ain't no way. Ain't no way you did this by yourself. That is just me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

So just go ahead and say, hey, get my levels checked out, make sure everything's okay. X, Y and Z. Yeah. Hey, your best year, what you have? 1600. That's a 1900 receiving yard season. That's what you about to put down. Yeah. 115 catches, 1900 yards, 16 touchdowns on your.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ooh, I like that. Yeah, I need to get back to that. I turned off news altogether.

[Uncle Ocho]

I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people. We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America.

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[Uncle Ocho]

There's a lot of discourse about the spurs not shaking hand with the Knicks after a loss. Robert or Chime and said people get mad at athletes when they don't shake Hands. When you go back and you start the 2000 back, nobody shake hands. We didn't care. We just lost. And we don't talk about. Want to talk to you. So when people are like, that's just not sportsmanship. I'm mad. I just got my ass whipped. And I'm not trying to be friends with nobody who kicked my ass. So I don't understand the people never played sports get so upset. Oh, he didn't shake hands. I just lost. I don't want to talk to you right now. I know a situation. A guy got left off the Olympic dream team because he didn't do what Joe and Ocho shake their hand. Oh my goodness. And everybody. You see how they do you see how they move that gold blow?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. Oh, they. They're gonna move it now. They're gonna. They're gonna move it every time. They Depending on who everybody said.

[Uncle Ocho]

Because every time, hold on. Every time Michael Jordan lost, he shook hands. Yeah, with the Celtics kicked his ass. They swept him. Every time when the pistons beat his ass, he shook the hand. And everybody talk about, oh my goodness. I love how y' all pick and choose. Mama mentality and Jordan until it comes time to look when you lose.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, but you want to talk. Oh, but you want to talk. You, you ready to be in somebody face when you win?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, so you. Now you want a kiki key? All I'm saying is this. Nobody likes to lose. When athletes, we're very, very competitive. That's kind of what makes us. How we're wired and kind of what makes us who we are.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Uncle Ocho]

But I can't get behind this. I can't get behind this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can't. Right, so. So you, you, you don't like them not shaking hands.

[Uncle Ocho]

My thing is, is that when you win, do you shake hands?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they do. Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay, so you all about winning. So you. So you supposed to win all the time, right? So what about the team? So what about the team that when you win, they come shake your hand, Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got you. You know, I'm just.

[Uncle Ocho]

Like I said, I just know people. I remember and I saw in the last dance and everybody talked about it and I guess as long as you. As long as you. They killed Isaiah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, they killed Isaiah. And y' all know damn well it kept him off the dream team. John Stockton is a phenomenal player. John Stockton wasn't better than Isaiah at the time of the selection. Isaiah was a two time champ and he was a finals mvp.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

He led his Team Isaiah was the best, was the, at one point in time, the best player on that team. John Stockton was never the best player on his team. Karl Malone was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, at that point, UNC is all about sportsmanship. You know, we, we always, we learn that. Aau, you know, when you're young, regardless of what sport you play, win, lose or draw, you always shake your opponent's hands. Always.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, but when you look at it with a young spurs team who was very emotional.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

I think, you know, they took this series to heart. I think it was personal for those guys. And with them being so young, bro, you know, I just think they took the emotion to be like, the hell with it. And y' all finna celebrate on our home floor, too?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

You could have stopped that. Yeah, you could have stopped him from celebrating.

[Joe Johnson]

You right.

[Uncle Ocho]

You could have. I used to tell people all the time when I was on cbs, I said, y' all don't want to dancing in your end zone. Keep him out of it, right? You don't want him doing your dance. You don't want him doing what he doing. You don't want him standing up on the Star. You never see to celebrate until he get his ass in the end zone. Well, you let him in there. Look, this with anybody. Cause I, I, I, I got to be, I got to be gracious in victory and in defeat. Yeah. Cause you're not gonna win every game. You're not. And you know, now, guys, you see guys, guys going, this is 10 minutes left in the game. And they get blown out. They go dap everybody up because they, they up. Excuse me. They up out of there. As soon as the game over, they go, yeah, yeah. And I guess that's the way it said, look, man, I ain't want to stick around. I just want to go and give them their love. It's. You know what? I shouldn't get upset. It's a different time now. And Shannon, you just gotta accept it. These guys don't look at things the way you do. They don't see things the way you do. And they're not gonna move how you move. I just have to accept that. And you know what? Guys tonight don't shake hands. Y' all do. Y' all do what y' all do.

[Joe Johnson]

You think you, you'll give a damn they shake hands or not?

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, I don't. I really don't.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. It's a respect thing, though. Like, you know, when you respect your opponent, bro, after you come out of hard fought Series. Regardless of the fact that you feel like you.

[Uncle Ocho]

You.

[Joe Johnson]

You probably really, really do feel like you should have won the series, right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. But.

[Joe Johnson]

But. But, you know, showing respect is part of the game, bro. It's part of the game. Okay? I would show.

[Uncle Ocho]

So what. So what about. So what about women not talking? We okay with that, too? Well, I just lost the game. I don't want to talk.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He didn't talk again?

[Uncle Ocho]

No, I'm just. I don't know if he didn't talk again, but I'm saying he did it that one time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, that one time.

[Uncle Ocho]

My thing is, so what. What if when I win, I talk and I'll shake your hand, but if I lose, I don't want to talk and I'm not going to shake your hand. So that's what we. So is that where we are now?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, basically.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what they let. That's what they let them get away with.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, we just, you know, gotta. Gotta keep it 100 now.

[Uncle Ocho]

So what about that Jordan mentality?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What.

[Uncle Ocho]

What is it about. They love Jordan so much. Everybody talk about Jordan.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

What did he do? I mean, maybe there was a time. And you know what? I wish I'd have known this, because I would have looked it up and see had Jordan ever dipped out on an interview, had he ever lost a series and didn't shake the guy's hand. Every time he shook. He shook Boston's hand when they whipped his ass. Milwaukee when they whipped his ass. The Pistons when they whipped his ass. As a matter of fact, Isaiah wasn't the first one to do it. Go back and look at the Celtics when Isaiah then beat them and they left the court. But, see, y' all don't want to talk about that. Y' all want to have a real conversation, but I'm old enough to remember.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're gonna have a real conversation. Because all he did was go get better after he got his ass whooped. I'm gonna go get better, and I'm gonna come back better. And that's what he did each and every year.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's all you gotta do. But he understood that was a part of it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

No matter what you think about him.

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[Uncle Ocho]

And I think he's phenomenal. He's one of the two. For me, one of the two best players. I got Bron first. But, hey, if you got Jordan first, I ain't debating you anymore. That's your thing, because you're not moving. This Jordan LeBron debate is just like A President Trump debate. Those guys that voted for him, you can't move them.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

So stop trying. If you look at the deal that he tore up and he just signed, he giving him more money than President Obama gave him. But that's all right. We did that from a position of strength. Who cares if I got strength or not? You didn't lose no lives, and you didn't have to get help rebuild a country and give them 20 billion. But anyway, that's neither here nor there, right? In this situation, Like I said, I'm cool with it, Nacho. I just understand. It's a different era. It's a different time.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

These guys don't see things. Guys pick and choose what parts of a guy they like and what they don't. They disregard it. So they love Jordan's game and the branding and everything he did, but they don't. Look at that part that when he lost, he still shook the head.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. But I think it's got a lot to do with a lot of these teams, too, Uncle. Oo hold. Holding these players accountable, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

No. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, hey. Because as professionals, bro, we. We have obligations, whether we know it or not.

[Uncle Ocho]

Of course you do.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And talking to the media is one of them.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Win or lose.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Win, lose. Hey, you think I want. I mean, look, and y' all know I love to talk, but, man, we done got out there and got beat, and I know we played like some sloth. Hey, guys, they beat us. We played bad. But I don't want to say it's just all us. They had to be a reason why we were playing bad.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Uncle Ocho]

Because we didn't practice like this, and we thought we had a great game plan coming in. They were the better team. Yeah, they better. Well, what could you have done differently? Probably like block, tackle, run the football. Other than that, nothing. You want me to tell you? But I just understood it was a part of the game. Yeah, it is. And it's hard when you lose. It is.

[Joe Johnson]

You know why it's hard when you lose? Because it's hard to critique yourself. It's hard because guess what? After a good game, when the media running there and, you know they running there to get a good sound bite from you. It's the same damn way when you play like horse crap. They gonna run in there still. Cause they still want a sound bite from you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

It's hard for players to be like, man, I was trash tonight, bro. Like, you rarely had that. It's some guys who will Take accountability. And those are guys that we love and we enjoy hearing from. Because you know, they gonna get better, they gonna come back better.

[Uncle Ocho]

But. But you know what, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

What's that?

[Uncle Ocho]

When a guy played good, he'll never say, let me look at the tape and see what I did. Good. It's only when he played bad to talk about. It's hard to tell right now, but I have to go back and check. You notice that, Ocho?

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

When a guy play good, you look at a quarterback, go throw for 400, a receiver, catch for 200, running back rush for 150, a couple of touchdowns, he'll never say, well, what happened? You know what? I need to go back and look at the tape.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Let them lose what they say. Every player say I need to look. Every coach, every player, I need to look at the tape. It's hard for me to say right now.

[Joe Johnson]

And they try to save a little criticism. They don't want to have to criticize. Man, our quarterback wasn't hitting on nothing tonight. That's what happened. You know what I'm saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, but I get. Like I said, Ocho, Joe is just a different era. It's just a different time now.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And

[Uncle Ocho]

you just gotta accept it. The sportsmanship is what we were taught. How we. I remember, you know, pop water. We used to lose, Ocho. And guess what? We get in a single foul line, don't we?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, straight down, shake, shake, everybody. I remember them days.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, and then coach make you get in line even if you don't want to shake hands.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you gonna shake hands after this game. Line up on that 50, everybody.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yep. Yeah, but that's a different time. So. Guys, look. What? No matter what the sport is, if you don't want to shake hands, don't shake hands. We have some breaking news. Right before we started the show, the third member of our Big Three is out of season nine of the Big Three. According to the league, the Detroit Amp Superstar, former champion MVP ISO Joe Johnson will be sidelined for the entire 2026 season due to complications from a torn patella tendon he sustained last summer. Damn, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn, Joe. What happened? Joe. Hey, hey, Joe.

[Tab Ramos]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Uncle. Hell. Hell, no. Hell, I'm starting.

[Uncle Ocho]

He got scared, Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, he's scared. He's scared of me, Joe. He's scared of me. Now, you did all that talking and bull driving now. Now, you can't play me one on one.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, Ocho Chat. I want to sincerely apologize. You know, my bounce back just Ain't what I thought it was going to be, ladies and gentlemen. You know, I thought, hey, it is probably the, the most catastrophic injury I've ever had. You know, I've been doing everything I'm supposed to do, right. I want to see my doctor. Yesterday he did a strength test. But you know, we do single leg strength as they strap you down in the chair and everything to where you

[Uncle Ocho]

can't make you do extension.

[Joe Johnson]

So. Yeah, so if my, my right leg pumping out about 230 pounds. My left leg at like 115.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, no.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I mean?

[Uncle Ocho]

So that imbalance, you about to get injured again, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that imbalance, it'll cause me to overcompensate. Next thing you know, I've been to hurt something else. He told me I'm probably about another three to four months away from really being a hunting and really feeling like myself. Hey, man, I ain't gonna question the doctor, bro. You feel me? Like in my heart of hearts though, throughout my process of recovering and training and working out, trying to get back out there. It's been tough, bro. It's been tough, it's been tough. But I'm, you know, I'm taking my time and I'm gonna do whatever I can, you know, to get myself back. Right. But in the meantime, in between time, you feel me? I got some other stuff brewing in the pot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

So did, you know. Do you feel like it's imbalanced? Do you feel anything is off, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I do, I do. I mean, Ocho, I can, I can run, I can go to the gym hoop. But after about 10 to 12 minutes into my workout, you know, you feel that weakness in there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I'm saying? And I, and like my, my push off my stop and go and all that, you know, cutting it, it just ain't, it ain't a hundred, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

It ain't where it's supposed to be.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it ain't where. It ain't where it's supposed to be. So, you know, I got all, I got my range of motion back. I just got to build this, this quiet muscle back up and you know, get it comfortable to this, to this right leg. And I'm left leg dominant. That's the, that's the leg I have.

[Uncle Ocho]

Jump off that leg.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. I kick with this leg, jump off this leg. This my power leg. My left leg is. Even though I'm right handed, I don't know if, I don't know if Y' all right footed or left footed?

[Uncle Ocho]

No, I'm a right handed guy, but I mainly jump off my left leg. Now I can, I can launch, go off two feet, but I'm, you know, I mainly, I'm mainly a left leg jumper also, I'm saying, but.

[Joe Johnson]

Jumper, I'm saying. But if y' all kick a ball like Ocho, you play something, I kick

[Uncle Ocho]

the ball on my right, I'll say

[Joe Johnson]

my left, my left foot is my. That's my power leg. That's where I kick with. Really like my mama was left handed. I just didn't get the left handed part. I'm a righty, but I'm a. I'm a left hand lefty from waist down. You feel me?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, see, my grandfather wouldn't let that. My uncle, I had an uncle that was left handed and my grandfather hated it. So every time he saw the grandkids with something in their left hand, he popped the out that hand and put it in the right hand. He said he didn't want. So if, if cousins, that's best. Libby's the oldest. On my mom's side, she's the oldest grand.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And then up until say I'm like, I'm probably like seventh Libby, Arne or Eugene, Dot, Spanky, Lanny, Maryland. To me, I'm eight a grand. So if we go back down to probably like like 13 or 14, the ones that I can remember ain't none of them. Ain't none of them. If they were born when papa was alive. Ain't none of them left handed.

[Joe Johnson]

I could assure you that. Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn, Joe, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it's all good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn, that sentimental Joe ducking, man. Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho. Ocho. Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Joe, you ducking this smoke, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho. Slow down, Turbo. Slow down, Turbo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. All that talking you were doing just the other day about what you were gonna do and you know, you know it. Post up and do all this and now you wanna out the blue.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Joe, that's kind of fishy, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho. Ocho. The smoke's still there, partner. Can't. We just gotta postpone to a later, you know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't postponing, man. We finna play. I ain't trying to hear that, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. You gonna postpone or you'll get your ass with which one you want?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, I'm here. I'mma kick you right in that leg too.

[Joe Johnson]

All right? Okay. All right. All right. I'm just letting you know? All right, now, I didn't already told you, I'm trying to be cool. You know, I'm in my feelings over here. Cause I can't compete. I can't hoop, so.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no. Hey. Oh, you gonna compete? Oh, I'm. I'm gonna make sure you compete. I don't care nothing about what that doctor said. Boy, you finna get this work, bruh.

[Joe Johnson]

All right, all right, Ocho. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, man. Hey, out the blue. Oh, now all of a sudden. Oh, I'm hurt. Oh, hell no. I ain't trying to hear that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, see. Oh, see how we talk about now? We can't get out outside. We can't do nothing outside. Joe can't do nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on. Both of y' all hurt.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, hell no. Listen, just because I can't play basketball, that don't mean I can't kick on y' all ass now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

I think y' all got misconstrued.

[Uncle Ocho]

I ain't gonna let no one legged man beat me,

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho. In January, I was on one leg. Can you imagine?

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm a whole totally different person, Ocho. Imagine. I mean, think about me, Joe. I was on one leg, too.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey. Cause you were taking a beating, boy. Hey, I had to beat y' all down to your brake pads, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, that was Ocho. Ocho ain't win not one event.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I had on my good clothes. I wasn't trying to mess up my church.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, listen, I tell you what.

[Uncle Ocho]

We go, hey, we're gonna get back out there. We go find something this fall we can do. We could. Hey, we. We got darts, we got fishing, we got a couple of things we gonna do. We gonna get outside. Hey, hey, wait till your ax throwing.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, wait till you see my hair when we go. When we outside.

[Joe Johnson]

Your what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

My hair.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey. Oh, yeah, Emperor Reyes.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

Put that a mean demonstration on somebody.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. I promise you, boy. Hey, hey, Ass Jordan. Yep. Hey, look, we get on that pool table, boy. Y' all might want to hide the footage, you hear me? Hey, yeah. Hey, hey. Because the demonstration I'm gonna put on these boys. Oh, we chat.

[Uncle Ocho]

I told Joe, you know, I seen you footage. I beat that dude, Emperor Reyes. I beat him best in the house. I'm a combination of. Of Ephraim Reyes, Earl Strickland, probably Willie Moscone. I'm probably a combination of those three.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, listen, Georgia Slim. Listen, I'm telling you, Unc. Ocho, if I ain't never warned y', all A day in y' all life. I just need y' all to hear me out. Unc. Unc. Hey, I'm telling you, man, you don't want to play with me on that felt, boy. You don't want to play with me on that pool.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, keep talking. Matter of fact.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, uncle, how you want to jump? Hey, you see that, right, Joe? You see that, right, Ocho?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, hey, can we add a ping pong table to that?

[Joe Johnson]

That's what I'm gonna just say, boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

I came. Joe, you can't move like that. Okay, one leg. Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you. I think you got it twisted. We just talking about playing basketball. Running up and down, cutting this. That's hard for me to.

[Uncle Ocho]

I can do it corner to corner.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, nah, nah. Y' all game ain't even like that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Serving volley.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bam. Hey, Joe. Hey. You notice. You notice I'm not even entertaining y' all when it comes to playing pool and playing ping pong because you.

[Uncle Ocho]

We know you can't play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we already know, Joe. That's what. That's. Joe, that's what I do.

[Joe Johnson]

I only got one person I gotta worry about, and he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he.

[Joe Johnson]

All right. Sometime, you know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we gonna see.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I already know. Ocho ain't got no touch when it come to shooting pool, okay?

[Uncle Ocho]

No, none, zero.

[Joe Johnson]

You don't know how to control that little toy ball. I know you don't know how to

[Shannon Sharpe]

do that, all right?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I know you don't know how to do that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We'll see.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Boy can't throw no darts. Hell, he barely.

[Uncle Ocho]

I already know. I already know you're not gonna beat me, neither one of y'.

[Commercial Announcer]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I want y'. All. You do know as a Cub Scout, we play darts, right?

[Joe Johnson]

Man, you talk about something when you were eight, nine years old Here.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hold on.

[Tab Ramos]

You do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You do know. Let me. Let me finish. You do know as a Cub Scout, we did axe throwing, right? You do know that, right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Whatever.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm cool either way. Hey, we could. Hey, we could. Hey, we could split logs. I don't care. We bust stumps. I don't care.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

Cause I already know y' all don't know how to work with no ax. I already know that, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Oh, my God. I don't mind. Listen, I don't mind adding you guys to the collection that I already got from y'. All. So just add. It's just gonna tally up. Just keep adding to the collection. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

First of all, I know Neither one of y' all ever bust a stump. Y' all don't know nothing about it. Who don't bust a who?

[Joe Johnson]

Come on.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's what I'm talking about. Nothing. Don't worry about it, Ocho. Joe. But I'm saying, Joe, you can't mess with. Hey, you can't mess with that axe, though, Joe. Not with that ass. Joe, you can't mess with me.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, I'm telling you, I did this for bread and meat, man. Hey, if I ain't win, I ain't eat. I'm telling you.

[Uncle Ocho]

And I know I. I. And that sledgehammer. I already know you ain't none of that sledge. You don't see me now. There's. That's sledgehammer. That's spike, nail. I already know that.

[Joe Johnson]

That's your man's over there, his city boy self. He don't know nothing about none of that. Yeah, he don't know nothing. You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, I used to work on the docks, man. I knew how to work sledgehammer.

[Uncle Ocho]

Man, ain't no damn sledgehammers on no dock.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, when I had a duck, man, I had.

[Uncle Ocho]

Weren't you a lawnshowerman?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I had to nail the nails in when the ship came to the dock.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey. Hey, Ocho. So you used to be there when them bricks and keys come through there?

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you think they get here in the States?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you go to the port of Miami.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Joe. That's where. That's where it come. You know what? Let me. Let me be quiet.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay.

[Commercial Announcer]

All right.

[Joe Johnson]

My bad, my bad.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't know about y', all, but I grew up doing manual label. Ocho, I know you ain't do nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I did grow up doing manual label. I had. I had chores from five years old. I ain't had no choice.

[Uncle Ocho]

Take the trash out and cut grass.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I had to wash my clothes.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, washing some damn clothes. Well, y' all gonna win that because I ain't washing no clothes. I'm dumping everything in there, colors, white together and putting the pie.

[Joe Johnson]

No, you got Jill. Nah, nah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My grandma say if you walk around with your socks, you're not putting them in the washer. Go get that scrub boy. You know, the little scrub board.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, scrub board. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Made me scrub them white socks because she said, don't walk outside in your white socks. And here I go outside.

[Uncle Ocho]

We had the old washing machine that was on the back porch.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

It was open, and you pull the clothes through to ring it. That's what we had.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. See, I'm gonna talk about Joe. That's why I know you ain't been no Joe. You ain't Joe. You not Joe. You too young, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, oh. Oh, yeah. I'm telling you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Joe, you is too young, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, you need to slow down, Turbo. You need to slow down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Joe, I'm. I mean, I'm 50, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, listen. You got me bent, partner. That's all I'm trying to say. Yeah, yeah. Y' all gonna see. Y' all gonna see. If y' all thought. If y' all thought what I done in January was some chat, boy. Hey, hey, boys ain't seen nothing yet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Joe, we in June.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I ain't got nothing to do with that. Hey, last time we hung out with January, I can only go off that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, we can. I tell you what we get to ask. We see who chopped down the tree to Quick breakers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man, y' all don't even got no technique for that.

[Uncle Ocho]

This. Oh, my God.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't even got the technique for that.

[Uncle Ocho]

First of all, Ocho, you ain't never chopped no. You ain't never got no wood. You don't know how to get kindling. You don't know how to find no fireplace. Never use the fireplace.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Time out.

[Uncle Ocho]

The hell y' all talking about?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me tell you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Let me tell you something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, let me tell you something. When I was a Cub Scout in 1987, huh? Huh? We was at Yosemite Park.

[Tab Ramos]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We camped out there. We had to chop down the trees, chop down the wood, make our own campfire. What are you talking about?

[Joe Johnson]

That boy lying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm not. I'm telling you, I got.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man. How old were y' all doing? Y' all were doing this?

[Shannon Sharpe]

This was in 87, Joe. 87 and 88. 89.

[Joe Johnson]

What? Lying? What? Lying like more.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Scouts honor, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Scouts on them. Okay?

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Scouts on them.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm telling you, I already know how to drop down no trees, man. I could work a tree like you could work.

[Uncle Ocho]

And I know how to limb. You don't see? You don't even know what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. Chat. Y' all don't know what I'm talking about either, so why y' all talking about. Oh, born the Great Depression. I know what I'm talking about.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you gotta have some endurance to knock down a tree. Y' all ain't got no endurance like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. It's all about technique.

[Uncle Ocho]

I take it. A same size tree. I'll beat you with Ocho taking it down. That's what I do know all that other stuff. Because first of all, let's not let Ocho chop. Cause he gonna. Let's run. Chop down the tree, and the tree fall on it. So, no, he have no idea. No sense of direction like the cartoon.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Just bounce up and down it and put him in the dirt.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, y' all gonna learn by playing one. Y' all gonna learn by playing with the greatest athlete of all time, man.

[Joe Johnson]

It's just hard, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

I might give y' all a chance fishing. Cause Joe say he can fish, Ocho say he can. Ocho say he bored with fishing. So it just probably be me and you, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I get what I'm saying.

[Uncle Ocho]

And I'm gonna skin you. You know what's funny?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what's funny is the fact that I don't fish and never have. That's probably why I'm gonna win.

[Uncle Ocho]

You're not gonna.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's why I'm probably gonna win.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ocho, you don't even know how to cast a reel. You don't know how to spin it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Look at he got. Boy, you talking about, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you mean? And that's. That's when you go deep. Hey. That's when you go deep sea fishing. It depend on what we fishing for.

[Uncle Ocho]

Be all up in the trees. Joe, you right, Right?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

All they gonna do is be breaking line.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

I got another rod.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I'm ready, though.

[Uncle Ocho]

You can't fish. You need to stay on the shore, too. Because first of all, you don't know how to stand in the boat. You don't know how to fish from a boat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you mean, I don't know how to stand no boat?

[Uncle Ocho]

He owned the land

[Shannon Sharpe]

over. Let me tell you something. In Cincinnati, right?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Me and Carson Palmer and T.J. husband Zada.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We used to go shore fishing for catfish.

[Uncle Ocho]

Go what? Shore fishing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for catfish. In Cincinnati.

[Uncle Ocho]

What you use for bait?

[Tab Ramos]

Huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

What you use for bait?

[Joe Johnson]

Earthworms.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I use earthworms. I tell you. I tell you. I tell you. No lie. Hey, listen, if I'm lying, I'm flying. And you know me. I lie for you before I lie to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

You don't know how to fish with no bait. You don't know the fish will know what you call them. Because for me, I'm officially fishing for catfish. Because they're Bottom feeders. So you need to fish on the bottom. So you need to get something that's gonna drop the line to the bottom.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

But you don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Know.

[Uncle Ocho]

You don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I rolled my line all the way out there.

[Tab Ramos]

Huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, Lord.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I had a clean pole, too. That's how good I am.

[Uncle Ocho]

You trying to catch Channel Cat speckle, Flathead. What kind of. What kind of catfish are you trying to catch?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Shoot, the big ones.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

You try to catch a flathead?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they were big, boy, but you

[Uncle Ocho]

got flathead, you got. Look, the china, the. The channel. Like black cats lay, like, about this long, you know? You don't want something that big. Cause they. They rank. You want something tender, like what they filet. What you fried it like. Okay, give me that. Fried catfish.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, that's what you want.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't really see.

[Uncle Ocho]

We go, hey, we do it however you want to fish. We could. Hey, we could do a trout line. We could do deadline. Hey, we can set it. Whatever you want to do, Joe. However you want to fish.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, trout line, deadline. Second line. I'm gonna win.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. I don't really. I don't really see no. I don't really sense no real threat. Just keep it real out of y'. All. I mean, it'll be, you know, it'd be good. It'd be good content, you know, but for the most part, I think, you know, clean.

[Tab Ramos]

Hello.

[Uncle Ocho]

You don't see no competition? With what?

[Tab Ramos]

Fishing?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, between. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

[Uncle Ocho]

As a matter of fact. Hey, Joe, we go and put that. We go and put, like, two grand up on it right now. Whoever we catch the most fish or the biggest fish. Me and you. Just me and you, Joe.

[Tab Ramos]

And.

[Joe Johnson]

And who catch the first fish?

[Uncle Ocho]

I always have a joke.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whoever get their line in the water first gonna catch the first fish.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, not necessarily, man.

[Joe Johnson]

See, I'm talking about.

[Uncle Ocho]

There you go. I already know. I already know. Neither one of you can fish. Hey, Joe. I ain't gonna tell you no lie, Joe. I caught a fish so big, the picture weighs six pounds. Got it right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I'm gonna. You know what? I'm gonna make it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yo, you can't fish. Stop.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on. I'm gonna let y' all fish in the boat.

[Uncle Ocho]

You ain't got no patience.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna let you fish in the boat. I'm gonna get in the water and catch my fish.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man. Come on.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm definitely not gonna be in the boat. Cause you're gonna be all, hey. Oh, Joe. You see how he throw it? All they gonna do is tip the whole boat over. You don't know. He don't know how to fish from a boat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn. What kind of boat we in? We ain't gonna tip over.

[Uncle Ocho]

The boat is on water. You can't just be fishing like you short fish.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We need a bigger boat, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

You on a bass boat. Have you seen people fish from a bass boat?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

You can't be doing all that. What you doing rocking the boat? Oh, man, hell no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't. I ain't gonna. I ain't gonna rock it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, all right.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, I know. I will get you. Get your own.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Ocho ain't no threat. Ocho ain't no threat. He just coming for the. For the shits and giggles.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, okay. He just want to have fun. Something to talk about. Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's it. That's it. That's it. It's okay, Ocho. Good dude, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I'm coming to dominate, baby.

[Uncle Ocho]

Dominate.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What? Hey, y' all like. Like it's Sunday at 1 o'. Clock. That's what I'm coming to do, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ain't nobody fooling with you, Ocho. You know damn well you don't know how to fish.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Man grew up in. Man grew up in Florida. Don't.

[Uncle Ocho]

Grew up in Miami. He don't like the deep sea. He don't like the deep sea fish.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I gotta get sick on that boat, man. All that rocking back, I get nauseous, man, that drum to me don't help me, man. It don't help, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, let me see. How soon are you eating? You gotta let that thing get all the way down. Because if you don't. Oh, we. Yeah, you'll be. Hey, you'll be chumming it up. They're gonna be fishing. Swim inside the boat. Cause you done chummed it up.

[Joe Johnson]

You didn't call Earl. Yeah, yeah, I haven't seen that at all, Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, we fish whatever. We can catch drum. We can catch a snapper. We catch whatever. You want to play flounder? Hey, whatever you want to go in the. We catch bass. We catch pike. We can catch crappy. We catch red. Red breast, bluegill, whatever.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, them two little, man. Hey, let's go. Let's go. Let's go hunting fish.

[Uncle Ocho]

Or you just want to catch trophy fish? Or you want to catch fish that you can eat?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just want to catch Goliath grouper and throw him back.

[Uncle Ocho]

And you gotta throw it back on there. Throw your ass in jail.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I want to catch Goliath grouper. You know, maybe a swordfish, sailfish.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, what? Man, you ain't catching no Goliath grouper with no regular riding real. Boy, you gonna have that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I know where to go. I got. I gotta. I got a deep sea fishing boat.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man. Come on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

What if we catch some tuna?

[Tab Ramos]

Who?

[Uncle Ocho]

Tuna.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What we gonna do with it?

[Uncle Ocho]

I mean, I don't eat it. You throw it back. Oh, well, look, we go catch branzino.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Matter of fact, we should make it sweet. You don't eat. You can only eat what you catch. And if you don't catch nothing, you don't eat for the day.

[Joe Johnson]

I bet.

[Uncle Ocho]

Bet I'm cool with that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Hey, yeah. How about that?

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, look, my thing is, if I got to clean it, it's going back in the water because I ain't cleaning it. Hey, me and my girl, my brother got in trouble. Me and my brother got in trouble with that, man, we throwing the fish back. My grandma said, boy, I see y' all throwing the fish back. I'm cut y' all ass.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. You want to have to clean all them fish?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hell, no, man. Autumn scared. Yeah, Cut the head off good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. You ain't. You ain't no real fisherman into the water.

[Uncle Ocho]

I mean, I'm real fisherman. That's why I catch everything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You only want to gut the fish.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, Ocho, I didn't. Man, look here, man, I just wanted to eat the fish, okay?

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Uncle Ocho]

And then I got a bone caught in my throat and I. I stopped eating fish that wasn't filleted for 30 years.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. What?

[Uncle Ocho]

Cause, man, I ate damn near a whole loaf of bread. You know, you get a bone and you throw away. They give you. They give you that bread. They bash that bread up. Say, swallow this bread, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did it go down?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, after. I bet. I was crying. I was panicking. Hey, my granddad. Boy, stop all that crying. Ain't nothing wrong with you. What you mean, ain't nothing wrong with me? Big ass fish bowl in my throat, but ain't left me a whole loaf of bread trying to get that damn bowl down. But we gonna find out. We gonna find out who can really fish.

[Tab Ramos]

And then.

[Uncle Ocho]

And guess what? And when we go to these state fairs and they got all this cuisine, they got these Rocky Mountain oysters and they got these pig ears to eat. Joe, I already know your stomach weak. Joe. I already know your stomach weak.

[Shannon Sharpe]

His stomach weak and his leg.

[Joe Johnson]

Look, look, both of y' all talking a good game, but y' all stomach weak, too. Hell.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, Joe, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, ain't nothing wrong with my stomach, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

You think cause you eat a lot of booty that your enzymes, your stomach, that what you think? But they ain't how it work. They ain't how it work, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What is there that we're gonna eat that I haven't eaten before? Think about it. There's nothing. There's no place we gonna go where there's there any delicacy that I haven't tried to taste it before.

[Uncle Ocho]

You ain't had no Rocky Mountain oysters. You hadn't had none of that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I done had oysters right here. Prime 112.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, those are oysters come out of shell. These are cow and hog testicles.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, man, Unc, I'm a swallow it. What you talking about, man?

[Joe Johnson]

I'm thinking about that. Oh, wow.

[Uncle Ocho]

We gonna find out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Joe, you gotta hold it up, man. Just drop it in your mouth.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, that. No, no, no.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, come on.

[Uncle Ocho]

You gotta chew these. These are fried.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, that. Oh, yeah, I like that long. You got a little season on there.

[Joe Johnson]

I good that deep fried.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I'm good. Just as long as it got a little seasoning.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, they got seasoning. Hey, we gonna see. We gonna see. They got turkey, too. We gonna see.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, they got some stuff. All them eyeballs, Joe, with no Joe. Biden to the eyeball, Joe. Oh, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And all that goose.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, Come on. I like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like that.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, y' all ain't doing that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like that. I like that. I like that joke, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, get on.

[Uncle Ocho]

Have you know my sister cook a mean raccoon with them bell peppers and celery and onions. Put that thing in the old. Put that aluminum foil in that pan. Ah, yeah. Joe, watch. Hey, watch it. You pick it up. Fall off the bone.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, come on, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, we eat that possum, too. The prettiest white meat.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, come on. Oh, damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, I like that. I like that. Give me. Hey, give me a little hot sauce

[Uncle Ocho]

with that last man. I know he. He passed away many years ago, but he used to make a mean. He do armadillo, man, he bust that shell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, but I don't know anybody in gladiator to do it. But I know they still. They're still dressed down a raccoon or a possum. I don't know if anybody do armadillo like that anymore. But that's okay, Joe. We gonna find out.

[Joe Johnson]

You and Ocho talk a good game. But, boy, I love.

[Uncle Ocho]

Joe, I done ate it. You don't had no squirrel, Joe. I can't. I can tell you ain't never had no.

[Joe Johnson]

I had squirrel, frog leg. I done had all that. I done had a little crawl leg.

[Uncle Ocho]

Don't do nothing but.

[Joe Johnson]

No. But no possum. Ain't ate no possum on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay, well, you gonna have to eat some.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Hey, Joe, you ain't.

[Uncle Ocho]

Cause Ash done found a lady in South Carolina, Arkansas, that make a mean one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

A mean neck of the wood, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

A mean possum.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm ready. I'm ready. Joe, you ain't no eater. Joe. You ain't no eater.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, I ain't no eater. Och, I know you a eater. I know you get down. I already know how you. Look, look, we already know you a big eater. Uncle eater, too. Here. We already.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Joe Johnson]

No food.

[Uncle Ocho]

What I've eaten. Don't get up and walk away. That's. That's all I'm saying. I mean, what you don't talking about. Hey, count me out. I'm like a new.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm ready.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'll let you know what you have. That's all right. Ash already done found the lady. Found a person that'll cook a lot of stuff.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

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[Tab Ramos]

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[Joe Johnson]

I sure can't wait to see this boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm ready. Well, everything finna get swallowed, boy.

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[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you gotta chill. You gotta chill.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm just saying you gotta chill.

[Uncle Ocho]

What happened, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

He talking about everything gonna get swallowed. You gotta chill. Yes, sir.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, go joke.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My bad.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yo, you giving us a, man. You giving us a. Oh. Oh, yeah, Joe, I already know. Ocho, you know the first thing we eating?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Uncle Ocho]

Big old part of that bull, Nick and onion.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, come on, come on. Yeah, come on.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, that's right. That's out the box.

[Tab Ramos]

Huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

That's out the box. Hey, see that thing whirled up on Joe's plate? Them more onions. That thing steam coming up off it.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all got to chill. Y' all gotta chill for real name. We going too damn far now.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, Joe. No, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

I've never seen that on a plate, okay? Oh, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, Google it. Google it right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Google it right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe, I'm gonna show you how to eat it, Joe.

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What?

[Uncle Ocho]

You do it, you eat it just like a. There you go, hey, Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey. We gonna cut the camera. If you pick it up and eat it, we gonna cut the camera. You better take a fork and a knife and cut it like you would a regular sausage.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, nah. I mean, that thing whole.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hell no, man.

[Joe Johnson]

This guy. Hey, hey. You. You and Ocho, like the first people on here. Y' all think I'm lying. You and Ocho pop up. I swear, I can't make this up. I can't make it up. Y' all the first people. Y' all the first nightcap boy, when I protect that bull digging onion, y' all the first people to pop up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, it is Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Look on Google. Look.

[Uncle Ocho]

You lying, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it is.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't lying, bro. I know. I don't know if y' all can see. I don't know if y' all can see, but when I typed it in, you boys come straight up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You popped up with some dude with your laportier.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, that. That.

[Joe Johnson]

Is that mean?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, come on, man. How they put that? Come on, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Hey, that's the first thing popped up, too.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, they got oo. They got me oo. They got us with beers.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, who did that, boy?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Hey. Y' all really done made it, boy. Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey. I'm telling you, Joe, we gonna be. We gonna be famous now. I'm telling you. Hey, we gonna be famous.

[Uncle Ocho]

All the things up there being Ocho

[Joe Johnson]

that's attached to y' all name now.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn. Come on. Hey, Chad, who did that? Hey, Joe, now you in there. Not Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm in there.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come with your will. Your lady type in that. They gonna have all three of them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

So when you go back home, they gonna be, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Wow. Damn. Now this is out of control videos and everything. This out of control fellas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Crazy, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

They got a tick tock. They got Hashtag Shannon Sharp.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I told you.

[Uncle Ocho]

But see, hey, but they got Gordon Ramsay. Gordon Rams in here, and he got 2.9 million views seven years ago, so don't tell. He was eating it.

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[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man. Come on, fellas.

[Uncle Ocho]

But I don't know. I. I don't know what they. I don't know. Look, Chad, I know. I don't know how many people my age are from the South. I don't know what y' all thought we was eating, what y' all thought we've eaten. I mean, because for the longest time, we're the only ones eating oxtail. Go to a soul food restaurant. You can't get in the white people out the line eating.

[Joe Johnson]

You hear me? Hear me?

[Uncle Ocho]

Stew? Chicken smothered, pork chop, pig feet. Yeah. You got the worst cuts. They kept the best cuts. You got the worst part. But you know how we gonna make a meal, Joe? We gonna make. We gonna make something out of nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

I can't believe my grandma had me eating this stuff, bro. I'm talking about big jaws of pig feet. Huh? I'm talking about the way you just reach in there and pull that thing out. I'm talking about that tight.

[Uncle Ocho]

Man, that vinegar, though, man, they so. I mean, your mouth be. Your mouth be just like on fire. Your. The corners of your mouth and your lips.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I'm telling you, bro, all that vinegar, that's how I used to be on.

[Uncle Ocho]

But there was a place in. I'm trying to think. It was Greeley called Bruce's. And that's what it was famous for. They was famous for cow testicles. They had turkey testicles. That's what they was known for. I had a postcard. I'm gonna get the postcard.

[Joe Johnson]

Wow.

[Uncle Ocho]

But I think it closed down. It might have closed down. Anybody from Colorado ever heard of Bruce's, but that's what they was known for. And we would go. Early in my career, when we go a training camp in Greeley, about seven or eight of us would go and we go to. Go to Greeley's and get it.

[Joe Johnson]

Wow. Nah.

[Uncle Ocho]

So I already know, Joe. You ain't about that life, Joe. Your stomach weak. I can tell.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, look, you talking a good game. I know yours weak, too.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, it ain't.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Liver. You on your own little livers.

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