Ray J Speaks On Cardi B Hurting His Feelings, Fighting Orlando Brown, & Answers If He’s Really Dying. (Part 1)

Summary

Club Shay Shay Podcast: Ray J Speaks On Cardi B Hurting His Feelings, Fighting Orlando Brown, & Answers If He’s Really Dying (Part 1)

Date: July 13, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe (Shay Shay Media & Playmaker)
Guests: Ray J, Paul Pierce, Azar Faraday, Tab Ramos

Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into Ray J’s life, controversies, and current endeavors. The conversation is wild, honest, and unfiltered—as the panel discusses Ray J’s health rumors, viral moments involving Cardi B, relationships (romantic and platonic), sexuality, and his upcoming boxing match against Orlando Brown. The tone is lively, provocative, and often hilarious, keeping with Ray J’s unpredictable reputation.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Addressing Ray J’s Health & “Dying” Rumors

• Timestamps: [03:11], [06:15]
• Ray J is asked directly about rumors surrounding his health and comments that he “wouldn’t be here next year.”
  • “Are you dying? Yes. Or are you not?” – Azar Faraday [03:11]
  • “We are dying, but is it coming quick?” – Ray J [03:14]
• Ray J clarifies: His heart health was a real concern (function as low as 19-30%). Multiple hospitalizations (Baltimore, Vegas, Miami) were due to “going too hard” lifestyle, not a terminal illness.
  • “So when I said that, it was chopped up in like a lot of different... my heart got real bad... It’s up and down. It’s really all about how I take care of myself.” – Ray J [06:32]
  • He says if he takes care of himself, he’ll be okay; if not, “die n****s just die, bro.” [08:03]
  • Perception is that people online “want” him to die, which he finds odd.

2. Ray J’s Viral Persona & Controversial Content

• Timestamps: [10:09], [10:50]
• Ray J’s style is likened to Andy Kaufman: ambiguous, outrageous, sometimes intentionally provocative.
  • "That's where you don't really know what's real or not... you really don't know if we're joking, if it's real, if it's entertainment." – Ray J [10:11]
• He admits to standing by almost everything he says online except for involving his sister in feuds with Mase and Cam’ron. [11:22]

3. Cardi B Hurting Ray J’s Feelings

• Timestamps: [03:54], [27:10]
• Ray J reveals that Cardi B “wasn’t f**king with him” at a party—it genuinely hurt his feelings.
  • “I don’t know, but it hurt my feelings.” – Ray J [03:58, 27:11]
  • He insists he’s always shown her love, so her being “in her zone” and avoiding interaction stung.
• Ray J remains a “super Cardi B supporter.”

4. Gender, Relationships & Platonic Friendships

• Timestamps: [15:00], [16:09], [17:27]
• Ray J and the panel tackle the topic of whether men and women can be friends, specifically discussing his close relationship with Amber Rose.
  • “Me and Amber, we like brother and sister... It’s possible. If you’re not a creepy minded person.” – Ray J [16:09]
  • Ray J insists friendship is possible without sex, especially when boundaries are respected and both parties are secure.
• Discussion on how public perception (“ladies’ man” image) fuels suspicion about platonic relationships.
• Ray J discusses his ongoing marriage and vow to Princess, vowing never to remarry because he’s made his commitment. [18:13]

5. Women, Sexuality, and “Coochie Worship”

• Timestamps: [14:10], [15:04]
• Ray J repeatedly praises and “worships” women, suggesting societal reverence for “coochie.”
  • “We should always praise coochie and we should always praise women because women made us… you should believe in a woman.” – Ray J [14:09]
  • “I have. I’ve worshipped it. Well, because I’m saying I’ve been on my knees. The coochie, really. I prayed with it.” – Ray J [15:04]
• Panel debates societal generalizations about men and women, with Azar and Paul chiming in on the perils of stereotypes.

6. Standards of Attraction & "Pretty Boys"

• Timestamps: [20:13], [21:14]
• Ray J discusses not viewing himself as attractive, positing “fat in the pool is always with all the females” and arguing confidence, not looks, wins.
  • “The fat n****'s always gonna win.” – Ray J [21:00]

7. Love Island, Reality TV, & Hosting

• Timestamps: [24:35], [25:15], [26:07]
• Ray J talks about interviewing “Alana from Love Island” and is questioned about why he’s interested in reality drama.
  • He claims journalism as his motivation and also doing a favor for industry friends.
  • Hilarious debate over a Love Island contestant’s behavior ensues.

8. Upcoming Orlando Brown Fight

• Timestamps: [29:12], [29:16]
• Ray J discusses his upcoming celebrity boxing match with Orlando Brown (scheduled Aug. 15), with the panel ribbing him about getting in shape.

9. Sexuality, Industry Rumors, "Gaygency" & Labels

• Timestamps: [30:17], [31:14], [34:29], [42:47]
• Ray J is asked blunt questions about whether he’s been intimate with a man.
  • He emphasizes his respect for the LGBTQ+ community and the importance of answering carefully: “No, not at all. But I have a lot of gay friends... What I don’t want to do is make that seem like that’s not okay.” [34:33]
• Discussion expands to “the Gaygency,” an agency for LGBTQ+ artists, showing his allyship.
• Paul Pierce presses about coercion and sexual favors in Hollywood and the “casting couch” for men and women.
• Ray J tells a detailed and comedic story involving accidentally hooking up with a trans woman, his “finger test,” and stresses the importance of disclosure in sexual encounters.
• Offers a nuanced view against labeling/titling people's sexuality: “Titling people is unfair... I think it's a very inappropriate question. But it’s happening.” [45:12]
• Expresses frustration at the fixation on people’s private lives and advocates for letting people be.

10. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On health rumors:
  “If I do right, then I think I’ll be okay. It could get better. But If I don’t, then I don’t know. You know, when die n****s just die, bro.” – Ray J [07:37]
• On Cardi B:
  “I’ve always showed Cardi B love... Even when she was eating those crab legs on the jet.” – Ray J [27:22]
  “I mean, it did hurt, though. It hurt me.” – Ray J [27:38]
• On platonic friendship:
  “Me and Amber, we like brother and sister… But it’s possible, you know what I’m saying? If you’re not a creepy minded person.” – Ray J [16:09]
• On labels:
  "You know, and so I think titling people is unfair... what hole they're fucking unless you're intimate with them. I think it's over the top." – Ray J [45:12]

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Notable Timestamps

• 03:11 – Addressing rumors: “Are you dying?”
• 06:32 – Ray J breaks down heart health struggles
• 11:22 – Biggest regret: involving his sister in industry beef
• 14:09 – “We came out of a woman... always praise coochie and we should always praise women”
• 15:04 – Candid worship of women’s bodies
• 16:09 – “Me and Amber... like brother and sister”
• 18:13 – Marriage vows to Princess
• 27:11 – Cardi B snub, Ray J’s feelings
• 29:12 – Announcing fight with Orlando Brown
• 31:14 – The “Gaygency” and supporting LGBTQ+ artists
• 34:33 – Denying rumors of male intimacy, supporting friends
• 36:14 – Trans stigma, accidental hookup, and disclosure
• 45:12 – “Titling people is unfair... what hole they're fucking unless you're intimate with them...”

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Episode Vibe & Takeaways

• Ray J: Candid, self-deprecating, brash, funny, but often heartfelt. Displays real vulnerability regarding health and rejection, along with strong opinions on privacy and respect in the industry.
• Hosts/Panel: Playful but probing; challenge Ray J and each other, but foster an open, sometimes outrageous, conversation.
• Overall:
  A raw, explicit but thoughtful episode—touching on fame, masculinity, rumors, sexuality, and the evolving standards of American celebrity culture. Ray J comes off as unpredictable but real, leaving plenty of laughs and food for thought.

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For listeners: This episode is a wild ride—come for the clickbait (Cardi B, Orlando Brown fight), stay for real talk about life, love, identity, and the messiness of being a celebrity.

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[Azar Faraday]

What's going on? Like, are you dying? Yes. Or are you not?

[Ray J]

We are dying, but is it coming quick?

[Azar Faraday]

Is it coming quick?

[Ray J]

How my stomach look? Is it fat?

[Azar Faraday]

No.

[Ray J]

Because I'm trying to keep it sucked in. Fat in the pool is always with all the females. People are putting peanut butter in their ass and having a dog lick it when they get home while they watch tv.

[Azar Faraday]

Stop it, Ray. Who's doing this?

[Ray J]

This people are doing that a lot now. I don't know if they're using peanut butter or jelly. Just because I said I'm gonna stick my pinky in this nigga's ass don't mean I'm gay.

[Azar Faraday]

Right?

[Ray J]

Like, if I'm. If I like somebody in the nose, then what am I?

[Azar Faraday]

Have you dealt with a man intimately before? Because I think that people want to know.

[Ray J]

I mean, man, Cardi B wasn't fucking with me either. That hurt me.

[Azar Faraday]

Why?

[Ray J]

I don't know, but it hurt my feelings.

[Azar Faraday]

What did you do you think you did or said anything on one of the things?

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[Ray J]

I've always showed Cardi B love. Even when she was eating those crab legs on the jet. Like, I always shouted her out.

[Paul Pierce]

Right. So you worship the coochie?

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I have.

[Ray J]

I've worshiped it. Well, because I'm saying I've been on my knees.

[Tab Ramos]

Really.

[Ray J]

I prayed with it.

[Paul Pierce]

You intentionally say controversial things to entertain, or is that just you?

[Ray J]

I don't know. I don't know what I'm. I don't know what I'm doing. I felt like this was, like, almost like diving into my mind a little bit different than just talking about twat.

[Paul Pierce]

This is the taking over the game. All right, everybody. Welcome to Truth After Dark.

[Azar Faraday]

Do you think that men or women are more toxic? Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to another episode of the Truth After Dark. I'm your host, Azar Faraday.

[Paul Pierce]

The Truth Paul Pierce.

[Azar Faraday]

And today we have a very special guest. We're joined by a man who's been in the game for decades. A platinum selling artist, entrepreneur, actor, producer, and one of the most talked about about personalities in the media. Whether he's making headlines, speaking his mind, or going viral, one thing is guaranteed. You never know what's coming next. Welcome, Ray J.

[Paul Pierce]

Welcome, my boy Fine.

[Azar Faraday]

We're so happy.

[Paul Pierce]

Damn.

[Ray J]

Thank y' all for having me.

[Azar Faraday]

Thank you for coming. We just said on our last episode, he looked in the camera and was like, ray J, we need you on our show. He said that on the last episode?

[Paul Pierce]

I said that the last episode?

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, I swear he did.

[Paul Pierce]

I gotta get my bro, bro here, man.

[Ray J]

All right, so then I'm gonna turn it. I'm not gonna be. I'm not. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna be a changed man yet.

[Paul Pierce]

First of all, before we get started, man, how's your health?

[Ray J]

My health is cool. My health is cool. Like, I could do better.

[Azar Faraday]

So what's going on? Like, are you dying? Yes. Or are you not?

[Ray J]

Are we all dying?

[Azar Faraday]

But is it coming quick? Is it coming quick? Cause you said you wasn't gonna be here next year, and we don't want that.

[Ray J]

So what I said was that. So when I said that, it was chopped up in like a lot of different. Okay, if you watch the video. But my heart got real bad. And it was. It was like down to like, I don't know, like 19, 20%. But then it got up to like 25. That was still bad, even 30. And then I just. I had a couple of. I had just a couple of bad situations happen. I had to go to the hospital, and I was in a hospital in Baltimore. I was in a hospital in Vegas. I was in a hospital in Miami. But it was just. It just. Was just me kind of going too hard and doing a lot of stuff and going hard at the same time. So it was. It was. It was. It was bad. But once I got out, it got good. And then I started turning up again. Then it got bad again. So it's. It's just. It's up and down. It's really all about. Is really all about how I take care of myself.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

So the doc and I got this bottle was crazy, but the doc was like, if you go as hard as you've been going, ain't no way to live. You know what I'm saying? So I pulled back. Then I went hard and got sick again. And then I stopped. So if I. If I do right, then I think I'll be okay. It could. It could get better. But If I don't, then I don't know. You know, when die niggas just die, bro.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

So people asking me, they like, yo, are you. You dying? I'm like, yo, I hope not. I hope everybody gonna die.

[Paul Pierce]

It's not a condition. It's just. Just, you know, just doing unhealthy things. It's just.

[Ray J]

Yeah, like, I could die any day.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, we all can.

[Ray J]

Yeah, Yeah, I could die any day, bro.

[Azar Faraday]

But I think people were just nervous because we don't want you to be gone. You know, we thought you was gonna be dead by, man. Yeah.

[Paul Pierce]

Like, what's like an outcry? Like. Cause you know, the culture loves you.

[Ray J]

Yeah, man.

[Paul Pierce]

You know what I'm saying?

[Ray J]

I love the culture too, but it seemed like everybody want me to die.

[Azar Faraday]

No, nobody wants you.

[Ray J]

They like, yo, when it's happening, bro. I mean.

[Paul Pierce]

No.

[Azar Faraday]

How did you feel about Drew Ski at the BET Awards doing that?

[Ray J]

I love Drew Ski.

[Azar Faraday]

Me too.

[Ray J]

Like, he. He one of my favorite people, so he can say whatever he wants.

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[Ray J]

I don't care, man.

[Paul Pierce]

I'm not gonna lie. That was one of the best host for the BET Awards, for sure.

[Ray J]

I just hit him and was like, bro, congrats, bro. Highest rated since 2019.

[Paul Pierce]

I swear.

[Ray J]

It just was. It was. I think it was perfection. Yeah, it was perfect. Just how he had the whole thing set up. And I think that's just where the future is going. It's like, you know, you had comedians back in the day, and then you kind of had reality shows too. And now you got the new streaming world, and in the new influencer world, and the YouTubes and X and Snapchat and Kik. Shout out to Kik. So I think we're just in a new space, and I think. Cause I'm an 81, baby, and I've been Shit. I've been running through each decade like it's a fucking soccer game.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

The 90s, the 2000s, the 2010s. And then now we here at 26, and so you can see how it's all evolving. But. Yeah, nah, it's crazy. But I think Drew Ski's one of the pioneers of, like, paving the way for what's happening in the now.

[Paul Pierce]

It's the new age comedy.

[Ray J]

Absolutely.

[Paul Pierce]

You know what I'm saying? Traditional to where he gotta do stand. He got skits.

[Ray J]

Yeah.

[Paul Pierce]

He got performance. It's performance based.

[Ray J]

It's definitely performance based. And even with the shit I do, it's. I do shit. Like, I. Like, I'm a Big fan of, like, an Andy Kaufman kind of, like, you know, style of entertainment. And that's. That's where you don't really know what's real or not. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, what we do. Like, you really don't know if we're joking, if it's real, if it's entertainment, or it's just happening in real time and people just experiencing it. So, yeah, it's just different styles, but I lean more towards, like, an Andy Kaufman kind of, like, style of, like, entertainment.

[Azar Faraday]

Well, you definitely are entertaining, I'll tell you that much.

[Ray J]

I try. I just try to stay. I just try to stay in it.

[Paul Pierce]

So I want to ask you. You say a lot of stuff on your live streams that get people talking. I mean, do you ever think I probably shouldn't have said that, or do you stand by everything.

[Ray J]

I stand, like.

[Paul Pierce]

Cause, you know, you just said. You just.

[Ray J]

You said, like.

[Paul Pierce]

Yes.

[Ray J]

All right, so it's only one thing that I don't. There's one thing that I didn't like what I did.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

But nothing else. But only one thing. And that's when I kind of brought my sister into this, like, you know, diabolical, like, chaotic, you know, world with. When I was saying the shit about Mace and about Cameron. Cause she was involved in the conversation.

[Paul Pierce]

Hold on.

[Ray J]

Before we go.

[Paul Pierce]

I'm gonna take this call. This is. I think this is your other brother right here. All right, this is. This is Eastwood.

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[Ray J]

He said he's gonna pull up.

[Paul Pierce]

Eastwood. We got Ray on the side.

[Ray J]

You pulling up or what? I thought you was pulling up, bro.

[Paul Pierce]

All right, I'm gonna send you the address. We on the set. All right.

[Ray J]

So me and Eastwood, so we were in, like. We were in the death row vortex.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah, I remember that.

[Ray J]

Right When Suge got back out of jail, we was with Suge for. We ran. We did a. We did like, a two year, three year run.

[Paul Pierce]

I remember that.

[Ray J]

And it was a. It was a crazy run. But we learned a lot and we experienced a lot. And that's my fucking brother.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah, that's.

[Ray J]

We even live together.

[Paul Pierce]

I was at the gym with him today. I was like, man, Ray, come. He was like, that's my brother.

[Ray J]

Yeah. Nah, we live together. We used to live together. He started smashing the girl I really like.

[Azar Faraday]

I'm screaming.

[Paul Pierce]

Oh, damn.

[Tab Ramos]

It did.

[Ray J]

And I wasn't mad at him.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay.

[Ray J]

She was a thot.

[Paul Pierce]

Ooh, they all thots to me. I don't give a damn.

[Ray J]

But she was a really good Girl,

[Paul Pierce]

she was a good thought.

[Ray J]

Yeah, she was a great one.

[Azar Faraday]

What do you mean when you say they are all thoughts? Who is they?

[Paul Pierce]

Them.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay. I think men like to generalize women a lot, and women do the same to men. And I think Tony Baker just took a clip of Hitmaker and Paul saying, no, women are genuine. And he really read them down and was like, nah, nigga. Like, you can't say all women, because that's not true. And women love to be like, no, men, all men. And we got to stop that. People are different.

[Ray J]

Well, I think we should. I think with women, I think we should, like. Cause when I said she was a thot, it was a good thing. It wasn't bad, like, because, like, besides, like, my wife, you know, I was just only like, really, I was thotted out.

[Azar Faraday]

You know what I'm saying?

[Ray J]

And so she was the one that kind of kept me balanced. Right. And still does. But other than that, you know, it's a crazy world out here, but I feel like we all came from coochie, and we should always praise coochie and we should always praise women because women made us. You know, it's like, if you don't believe in God, then you should believe in a woman.

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Thank you.

[Ray J]

Because we came out of a woman bars. Whether it was whether we came out of the coochie hole or we came out of the stomach from, you know, from the C section, it's all spiritual. You know what I mean? So as bad as I seem or say or talk, you know, I respect women. I respect coochie at the highest level, good or bad.

[Azar Faraday]

I heard that.

[Ray J]

Bad coochie, good coochie. Okay, coochie. It doesn't matter. It's all to me in a higher. It's way of.

[Paul Pierce]

It's a form of life.

[Ray J]

Yes. It's royal.

[Azar Faraday]

I love that.

[Ray J]

And so I never really want to or do talk down on women as a whole.

[Paul Pierce]

So you worship the coochie?

[Ray J]

I have. I've worshiped it. Well, because I'm saying I've been on my knees. The coochie, really? I prayed with it.

[Azar Faraday]

I love that.

[Paul Pierce]

Well, Amber came on here and said

[Ray J]

she worships the D. I love Amber.

[Azar Faraday]

Me too.

[Paul Pierce]

She said that, right?

[Ray J]

Yeah, Amber's.

[Azar Faraday]

She did say.

[Paul Pierce]

Is that the word she.

[Ray J]

She worships it. Dang. That's crazy. She never told me that. But. But I'm crying, me. And there was context.

[Paul Pierce]

It was context. It ain't like that. It was just more context.

[Ray J]

One of the smartest people in the world to me. And she's inspiring and she inspires me. She actually keeps me on my toes too.

[Paul Pierce]

That's dope.

[Ray J]

And she actually gives me a lot of advice that I do need.

[Paul Pierce]

You know, y' all have a unique friendship because it's like, no, but the thing is, like, and Ray, you know, a lot of these females around Hollywood and in the streets, whatever. Like, how is it hard to have a friend that's attractive that you just haven't had sex with? Is that like a thing? Is that a thing? Can men be friends with women? Because we talk about this all the time. Without a sexual relationship, it's possible.

[Ray J]

I mean, me and Amber, we like. We like brother and sister, you know what I'm saying? I know her, she knows me. And when we out, sometimes it's hard to believe that.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

You know what I'm saying? Like, you could. Like, people don't believe that when I say that. But it's possible, you know, it's just finding the right one. Like, I never had a friend like Amber. This is like my first, like best friend like this. But it's possible, you know what I'm saying? It's possible. If you're not a creepy minded person.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah, she don't believe that you men can be friends.

[Azar Faraday]

I think it can happen under two circumstances. The woman does not want the man and she completely friend zoned him. Or the man is not attracted to the woman whatsoever.

[Paul Pierce]

Attractive man and attractive woman.

[Azar Faraday]

You said no, you could be attractive. It doesn't mean the man's attracted to you. Like, sometimes women overshare too much with a man and they're like, ooh, I don't even want that. You know what I mean? Or vice versa. And you could be attractive, but it's like, girl, you a mess. Or boy, I would never mess with you. You do too much. That is where I think that you can have a friendship. But I think in a lot of my cases, I try to have male friends. And then it was always like this conversation that you needed to have to tell me about your feelings type thing. And it was disappointing for me.

[Ray J]

I think that Amber and I, wow. See how professional I can sound? I think Amber, I could have said me and Amber, but Amber and I, we. I think we're a good example of that kind of friendship. You know what I mean? I think once people get past not believing that we mess around, right. Once they get past that and they go, damn, they really friends, like, they really just locked in. Then. Then I think, I mean, I think people could take notes on it.

[Azar Faraday]

Do you think that if you were married or, like, back with your wife that it would be okay to be that friend?

[Ray J]

Well, I'm still married.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay, you're still married.

[Paul Pierce]

Technically.

[Azar Faraday]

Technically. But, like. And I know you. You want to be back with your.

[Ray J]

Well, I love her.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah. Okay.

[Ray J]

So, like, I made a vow to Princess.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

We went down the aisle. We. I cried. I said, I do. I got you for life. Till death do us part.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

I'mma do my part as. As. As the father, as the friend.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

As the person who has a certain responsibility in our relationship, whether we together or not. But I ain't gonna get married to nobody else because I already made a vow to her. Even if we get a divorce, because everybody gotta keep their word on certain things.

[Tab Ramos]

Okay.

[Azar Faraday]

Do you feel like if you, you know, whatever relationship, would she be okay with your, like, friendship, do you think, like, being in a serious relationship, do you think that woman is gonna be okay with you and Amber's friendship?

[Ray J]

Well, Princess is super cool with Amber.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay.

[Ray J]

And you know, my kids and their kids, I mean, they spent summers together.

[Azar Faraday]

Like, I think that's important. If the girl is cool with the girl, it makes a big difference. For real?

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

I mean, I think once you get past not believing that something is. Is happening.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

You know, most women or most men are not going to believe that. Certain people are not.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah.

[Paul Pierce]

Well, public perception.

[Ray J]

Yeah.

[Paul Pierce]

Based on reputation. Based on reputation. As a ladies man. You're known as a ladies.

[Ray J]

Or just how uncut certain people are.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't feel like I'm attractive.

[Paul Pierce]

Right. You are a ladies man. You've had girls flocking to you. You done been with the top notch.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Paul Pierce]

Amber, she's attractive. She's had men, like. And when you look at the perception of who she is and who you are, people are gonna assume that y' all absolutely. You know what I'm saying?

[Ray J]

Without a doubt. And we got a lot in common as far as, like, who we was fucking.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

You know, it's like. It. It's. It's similar.

[Azar Faraday]

What.

[Ray J]

In a lot of senses, what makes

[Azar Faraday]

you feel like you're not attractive?

[Ray J]

Because I don't really give a. And so I think that might be attractive. But.

[Azar Faraday]

But physically. Do you don't think you're physically a handsome man?

[Ray J]

I don't think about. I don't look at. I don't be. I don't look at it like that.

[Azar Faraday]

Well, you said you're not attractive, so

[Ray J]

I don't want to be attractive.

[Azar Faraday]

You don't want to be.

[Ray J]

Cause I don't have to be. Not to. Not to. To a bunch of bitches.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, you don't.

[Paul Pierce]

You right.

[Azar Faraday]

You just have to have some money.

[Ray J]

Fat in the pool is always with all the females. Not the nigga standing there on the side that went to the gym for six months waiting for this pool moment, right?

[Azar Faraday]

Waiting for this moment. It's crazy.

[Tremphya Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

The niggas trained for the. For Vegas.

[Azar Faraday]

Omg.

[Ray J]

The weekend that they went. And they are ripped. But it's over. Ripped.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah. I agree with you.

[Ray J]

It's overdone. And I think that the guy with the belly is always gonna be in the league, whether he has the most money or whether he just doesn't give a fuck. I think the fat nigga's always gonna win.

[Azar Faraday]

I don't know about the fat, but I did tell Hitman I'm cool with, like, a medium ugly type of guy. I think a lot of girls feel that way. Like, I don't want a man that's, like, super pretty in the mirror more than me.

[Paul Pierce]

Who's a pretty boy to you?

[Azar Faraday]

Skepta.

[Paul Pierce]

I don't know who that is.

[Azar Faraday]

Do you know who that is?

[Ray J]

I know who Skepta is. So you going to uk? You going the UK route?

[Azar Faraday]

Well, you asked me who I think is a pretty boy, and I had this conversation with some homegirls, and we were like, who is the, like, Halle, like, you know, the Denzel of our generation, I think of this generation, I would say, like, skeptical. Like, when I grew up, I thought Morris Chestnut was so funny.

[Paul Pierce]

We don't have that girl right now. Who's that girl right now? Cause back in the day, it was Laura, Halle Berry, Lark Voorhee. It was like all these like, who's the girl now?

[Azar Faraday]

Lori Harvey.

[Glenn Washington]

Lathan.

[Ray J]

You said Lori Harvey.

[Azar Faraday]

I think she's the girl that's like, that.

[Paul Pierce]

Who's the girl? She's not on the Halle Berry level. How we all talked about, like, fantasize, like, she's out, she's attracted to school.

[Ray J]

I think she's beautiful.

[Paul Pierce]

But who's the it girl today? Like, who was the girl that Mike Tyson was with?

[Azar Faraday]

Oh, I have no idea.

[Ray J]

The one that put him in jail.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ray J]

Robin Given.

[Paul Pierce]

Robin Givens. It was like we had a whole.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, you guys had a lot listening.

[Ray J]

Robin Givens was hot boomerang.

[Azar Faraday]

But we have a list, too. We had more.

[Paul Pierce]

Who is it today? As far as the women, who is it Today, the hot girl.

[Ray J]

You got to run.

[Paul Pierce]

You got Beyonce. It was Beyonce, Alicia Keys, and all of them. But they getting older now.

[Ray J]

You thought Alicia Keys. I think Alicia Keys was. Was hot.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah. No, I'm saying she was on that

[Ray J]

list, but now Alicia Keys was on the list. I think Alicia Keys was on the list of, like, she's not super talented.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah, she was on the list is fine as hell.

[Azar Faraday]

People always used to say I look like Alicia Keys. And I used to be like, no,

[Ray J]

you know who I think you look like?

[Azar Faraday]

Who?

[Paul Pierce]

Don't say it.

[Tab Ramos]

Who?

[Paul Pierce]

I already know you gonna say it.

[Azar Faraday]

Who is he gonna say?

[Paul Pierce]

Aaliyah.

[Ray J]

I swear to God, I was gonna say Aaliyah. You wanna know?

[Azar Faraday]

Let me tell you something, Ray J. Let me tell this story to you right now. Ray J. Let me tell you this story.

[Paul Pierce]

True story.

[Azar Faraday]

The other day, I was at South Beverly Grill in Beverly Hills.

[Paul Pierce]

Another day, two months ago.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay. I walk into South Beverly Grill, and I see your sister. And when I walk in, I swear to God, you can ask her. She was like. And I was like, what's wrong? Did I scare you? She's like, oh, my God. I feel like I saw a ghost. I thought I saw Aaliyah right now. Wow, you have the energy of Aaliyah.

[Ray J]

That's crazy.

[Azar Faraday]

She was like. She couldn't get over it. She was like, this is. Even when she looks, she's like, I love you. Like, she was like, this is. She thought she saw a ghost. And mind you, I don't think I look anything like Aaliyah.

[Tremphya Advertiser]

First of all.

[Ray J]

First of all, you do look like Aaliyah. And again, I've spent time with Aaliyah. Aaliyah's the home.

[Azar Faraday]

Thank you. That's a major complimentary.

[Ray J]

You can Google Ray J and Aaliyah. It's gonna pop up on the dead homies.

[Paul Pierce]

On the dead homies.

[Ray J]

On the dead homies.

[Azar Faraday]

I'm shocked that you said that. I'm shocked.

[Ray J]

And Aaliyah is, like, even like, with her hand on my shoulder, like, I'm the homie. Like, for real. Aaliyah was the shit.

[Azar Faraday]

Your sister said the same thing to me, and I was like, wow, that is actually crazy. So I wanna get into this. It's a little pivot, but I seen that you recently interviewed the Alana girl from Love Island. Do you watch Love Island?

[Ray J]

No, I watch Love Cabin on Zeus.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay.

[Paul Pierce]

Oh, you. You dude did that?

[Ray J]

Yeah, I watched it.

[Paul Pierce]

I watched some episodes of that.

[Azar Faraday]

You know what I love? Is for the love of Ray J,

[Ray J]

that shit was lit.

[Azar Faraday]

For the love of Ray J was my shit back in the day. Thank you, Shane. I just wanna say, I don't even watch reality TV outside of Love Island. That was my shit.

[Paul Pierce]

That's funny.

[Ray J]

I think a lot of people got stuck on Love Island. Amber was watching Love Island.

[Azar Faraday]

We were talking about it.

[Ray J]

No, she was watching that shit, like, on her phone every. Every day. She was into it.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, that's me.

[Paul Pierce]

That's what the. That's what. The craziest. Right now. Everybody.

[Azar Faraday]

Me and Amber talked about it.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

And that's why I felt like Love Cabin was needed.

[Azar Faraday]

But why did you interview the girl then?

[Ray J]

Just because I'm a journalist.

[Azar Faraday]

Journalist. Okay. And what, did you.

[Ray J]

And a lot of people shoot my journalism down. I'm a super journalist.

[Paul Pierce]

Okay.

[Ray J]

And I was curious. And she kind of went hard on the niggas, and I wanted to kind of pick her brain about it. But after talking to her, she was cool.

[Azar Faraday]

I don't. I don't. After talking to her, you conformed and was like, you're cool. You didn't do nothing wrong. Me personally, she dogged them niggas out on the show. Didn't want to touch them. But you kissed and made out with all of them.

[Ray J]

She said she kissed.

[Azar Faraday]

No, no. Because you had to in the challenge. But when she had the choice, she was, like, disgusted. She didn't want to touch them.

[Ray J]

I was like, so she was racist.

[Azar Faraday]

She's. I can't. I think so. Because she did not want to touch. It was like, ew, give me a couple. You know how Nikki says couple wet wipes in case a bum try to touch you? That's what it gave. Like, bitch.

[Ray J]

And I love Nicki Minaj.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, I do, too.

[Ray J]

Yeah. Nah, I mean, you know, I wanted to pick her brain and see where she was coming from. Plus, I felt like there was some opportunities in the future where it could fit in some of the spaces that we're in. And then, to be super honest, I did a favor for, you know, a couple people that was behind the scenes on that show.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay.

[Kohler Advertiser]

Got you.

[Ray J]

And so all of those things played a part. But I walked in naked.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah. You didn't know what was going on? He didn't know what was going on.

[Paul Pierce]

Oh, okay.

[Azar Faraday]

He's like, wait. Cause Ray, you be walling out, so he don't know if you really.

[Glenn Washington]

I walked.

[Ray J]

Nah, I walked in. I walked in naked, like, not knowing really what to expect. And then after the show, we all hopped in the car and I Was like, let me take you to some urban clubs real quick and let's see what they do and how they feel.

[Azar Faraday]

Where did you take her?

[Ray J]

But we never went in. I was gonna take her to the Cardi B party. Cardi B wasn't fucking with me either. That hurt me.

[Azar Faraday]

Why?

[Ray J]

I don't know, but it hurt my feelings.

[Azar Faraday]

What do you mean she wasn't fucking with you? Like she said something or she just was dry.

[Ray J]

She just was not fucking with me. Yeah.

[Azar Faraday]

What did you do you think you did or said anything?

[Ray J]

On one of the things I've always showed Cardi B love, even when she was eating those crab legs on the jet. Like, I always shouted her out, but she just was like in her zone. She was just like, nah, like, I ain't fucking with niggas right now.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay. She just off me.

[Taco Bell Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

I mean, it did hurt, though. It hurt me.

[Azar Faraday]

It hurt you?

[Ray J]

Yeah.

[Azar Faraday]

Damn. I'm sorry.

[Ray J]

But she didn't really do nothing wrong, though. She was just busy, I guess.

[Azar Faraday]

Damn.

[Ray J]

Well, I'm a super Cardi B supporter, okay? I love Nicki.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah, we all. We all support Cardi.

[Taco Bell Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Paul Pierce]

Shout out to Cardi. Even though she, you know.

[Azar Faraday]

Even though she what?

[Paul Pierce]

She going through her shit.

[Ray J]

What's she going through?

[Paul Pierce]

Well, I know, you know the Stephon Diggs drama and you know, it's like when you celebrity, but everybody all in your business.

[Ray J]

Yeah, she's still going through that.

[Paul Pierce]

Well, I don't know. It ain't nothing been really reported but like the super bowl shit. And you know, it's just all, you know, it's just all culture shit that we gotta deal with. Our getting the media because we are the most influential people on the planet.

[Ray J]

Dead homies.

[Paul Pierce]

So anything we do say, it goes viral. And everybody want to be in our business celebrity wise. Because we moved the needle.

[Ray J]

Yeah.

[Paul Pierce]

And so it's all good.

[Ray J]

It's all good.

[Paul Pierce]

We are American culture.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

Some of us is just more turned up than others. And some of us are more conservative. Some of us are leaning this way, some of us are leaning that way. Some of us are leaning up, some are down. So everybody has a certain direction they're going. You know what I mean? How my stomach look? Is it fat?

[Azar Faraday]

No.

[Ray J]

Because I'm trying to keep it sucked in, bro, you gotta get.

[Paul Pierce]

Listen, bro, you gotta get ready for this next fight, bro. Hey, like. Like, let's talk about the scrap.

[Glenn Washington]

Come on.

[Ray J]

It was a lot.

[Azar Faraday]

The stomach looks fine. Okay, it doesn't look fine.

[Paul Pierce]

Listen, if my nigga gonna Be on the ring. He gotta get right.

[Ray J]

No, for sure. I'm fighting Orlando Brown, so I know

[Paul Pierce]

that he's fighting on August 15, right?

[Ray J]

It's gonna be. It's gonna be loud.

[Azar Faraday]

I'm trying to come to that also. Let's talk about this.

[Paul Pierce]

You gotta get right for that. You gotta put that.

[Azar Faraday]

So why were you telling him yesterday?

[Ray J]

Or.

[Azar Faraday]

I mean, I just saw it yesterday. But why were you saying this on the video? You told him, and I quote.

[Ray J]

Wait, hold on.

[Paul Pierce]

This is. Hey, you said this, right?

[Ray J]

Come on, let me prepare for this one, okay?

[Azar Faraday]

Prepare. I'm so confused.

[Ray J]

What are you talking about? When I.

[Azar Faraday]

About my finger, you said a few things, right? I did.

[Ray J]

I did.

[Azar Faraday]

You said.

[Ray J]

I stand on that.

[CarMax Advertiser]

And I quote.

[Azar Faraday]

You said, let's go outside right now so I can you, because you looking real attractive right now.

[Ray J]

Damn.

[Azar Faraday]

Then you told him you would put some fingers in his asshole.

[Kohler Advertiser]

Damn.

[Ray J]

So I'm trying to say my pinky.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay, Pinky. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

[Ray J]

That's going on, you know.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, you're right.

[Ray J]

What? Was it the finger? Like the. Was it the wrong finger? No, no.

[Azar Faraday]

Was it the wrong finger or was it straight up?

[Ray J]

I was taking it easy. The pinky's light.

[Azar Faraday]

Well, why are you doing these things? So listen to this. I'm gonna ask you this. Have you dealt with a man intimately before? Because I think that people want to know.

[Paul Pierce]

I mean, man,

[Azar Faraday]

take a sip. No, I feel him.

[Paul Pierce]

What does deal with a man mean, though?

[Azar Faraday]

Like, sexual intimately. I said to me, intimately.

[Ray J]

These are crazy questions.

[Azar Faraday]

It is, right?

[Ray J]

These are.

[Taco Bell Advertiser]

These are.

[Azar Faraday]

You don't have to answer.

[Paul Pierce]

You don't want to answer.

[Ray J]

I'm here to answer.

[Kohler Advertiser]

Okay.

[Ray J]

I like to think about every question.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay.

[Ray J]

That's presented. I love that. And I like to. To answer properly.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay, first time, take your time.

[Ray J]

Shout out to the agency.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay. First and foremost, can you explain to the people that don't know, what is the gay agency?

[Ray J]

The Gaygency is an agency that. That focuses on LGBTQIA plus artists.

[Azar Faraday]

Love that.

[Ray J]

And we have a crazy talented staff. Shout out to. To Rod, AKA the Rod. Shout out to Dumping D. Our new. We got new artists coming in. Bussy baby. Back shots. Really good people.

[Paul Pierce]

Okay, I got a question, though. Before you. No, no, no. Before we move on, though, I got to like, like, no, seriously, this is real. Because I'm like. And we kind of touched on this with Jason Lee the other day. And I'm not in the industry. I mean, I'm in the sports. I'm not in like the Hollywood industry. So I don't know. So like sports industry. It's not.

[Ray J]

It's the same.

[Paul Pierce]

It's not. No. Because people got to perform sexual acts to get where they want.

[Azar Faraday]

He's saying that's women.

[Paul Pierce]

Women said it. Women have said it.

[Ray J]

They gotta perform sexual acts.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah, women have. With the Harvey. Is it the Harvey Weinstein? Did women have to.

[Azar Faraday]

They didn't have to do anything.

[Paul Pierce]

Allegedly. They allegedly did things to get to a certain point where they needed to do. And that's for women. Is it the same. Is it the same for men where

[Ray J]

they gotta suck dick to be talented

[Paul Pierce]

to get to another. Like not be talented because you can already be, but to get to the level that you want? Like we hear things like this in Hollywood all the time.

[Ray J]

Yeah.

[Paul Pierce]

I swear you hear about it like, oh, he had to. Now he got a one one up on.

[Ray J]

Yeah, yeah.

[Paul Pierce]

Straight up. Have you heard this or have you. Do you know? Have you know. Do you know of a situation where somebody had to do something, a man on man sexual act to get where they needed to go?

[Ray J]

So are you asking me do. Do I know anybody that sucked some dick to become successful?

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah, man wise.

[Ray J]

What's the difference?

[Paul Pierce]

Well, women, they gonna do that just to get to where they need to go anyway.

[Azar Faraday]

That is out of pocket. That's not true.

[Paul Pierce]

No, they've done that. They've. I'm not saying they go to do it.

[Ray J]

That was loud.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, that was like.

[Ray J]

So you were going back to you asking me.

[Azar Faraday]

Yes.

[Ray J]

Did I.

[Azar Faraday]

Have I ever been intimate?

[Ray J]

The man.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah. Or kissed.

[Ray J]

Or kissed.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah. Like made out.

[Paul Pierce]

You be saying some crazy though.

[Azar Faraday]

Let him answer, bro.

[Ray J]

You know, I got like. Like when it's verbal war.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ray J]

I mean, shit, we all love Biggie Smalls.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah. He said he'll suck on his. What did he say?

[Ray J]

Well, he said, you look so good,

[Azar Faraday]

I'll suck on your daddy's dick.

[Ray J]

That was that. But it was also fuck him in the ass, throw him over the bridge.

[Azar Faraday]

It's a lot.

[Ray J]

Yeah.

[Azar Faraday]

So yes or no?

[Ray J]

N get wet like semen.

[Azar Faraday]

Have you been intimate sexually with a man in any capacity ever?

[Ray J]

Here's why I take my time with this.

[Glenn Washington]

Okay.

[Azar Faraday]

Take it.

[Paul Pierce]

I'm dead.

[Azar Faraday]

No, I am. But take the time.

[Paul Pierce]

He was at the.

[Ray J]

You know, here's why I take part my time with this because Shout out to Diddy.

[Azar Faraday]

This is crazy.

[Ray J]

Nah, serious. But I take my time with it because I was telling a couple other people that these are very tricky and serious questions, especially when you have a lot of gay friends.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

Right. So I'll answer it. No, not at all.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay.

[Ray J]

But I have a lot of gay friends, so what I don't want to do is make that seem like that's not okay.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

Because it's a. It's a thin line between saying no and then looking down upon it. Looking down upon it. It's crazy.

[Azar Faraday]

Looking down upon it.

[Paul Pierce]

Looking down upon it. Huh. That's wild.

[Ray J]

But it is, though, because again, that's wild. Crazy.

[Glenn Washington]

Pause.

[Ray J]

That was loud. It's. You know if you got gay friends.

[Azar Faraday]

Yes.

[Ray J]

Right. Whether it's girl on girl or guy on guy, whatever it is, you just want to make sure that everybody knows that it's. Whatever you're doing, it's all good. Because it's your business.

[Azar Faraday]

Right.

[Ray J]

Like, I've told the peanut butter story where, you know, people are putting peanut butter in their ass and having they dog lick it when they get home while they watch tv.

[Azar Faraday]

Stop it, Ray. Who's doing this?

[Ray J]

People are doing that a lot now. I don't know if they're using peanut butter or jelly.

[Paul Pierce]

Damn.

[Ray J]

Whatever their dog or cat enjoys. I don't know. Maybe it's just to feel good while they're watching Avatar and.

[Azar Faraday]

Why?

[Ray J]

I mean, it's a long movie and

[Azar Faraday]

you think that's okay, though?

[Ray J]

I'm just.

[Paul Pierce]

He says a long movie.

[Azar Faraday]

Do you think that's okay to do that?

[Ray J]

It's none of my business.

[Paul Pierce]

There's people out here that say that they've been with trans, but they're not gay.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah. What do you feel about that? We talked about that with Jason.

[Ray J]

Are y' all talking about the story that I've just put out?

[Azar Faraday]

No.

[Ray J]

Oh, y' all didn't hear that one?

[Azar Faraday]

You know this one? Tell the story.

[Paul Pierce]

Tell the story. Tell the story, please.

[Ray J]

So I got a lot of trans friends, too.

[Paul Pierce]

Okay.

[Ray J]

Shout out to my trans team.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay.

[Ray J]

And again, shout out to the agency. But I was telling a B. And Dean. We was just talking shit. And I'm like, yeah. Cause one time. One. Cause you know, we be having a lot of. We have a lot of fun. So as I'm, like, running through the night, I'm on my, like, probably, like, third. Third homegirl. Right? And this is when I. Back in the day, because I'm. I'm a changed man now. What does it mean to be with Princess?

[Azar Faraday]

You're on your third homegirl.

[Ray J]

I was on that night. You know how you just running through

[Paul Pierce]

smacking something, and then it's just A lot going on now. He on the third one now he one come in.

[Ray J]

My assistant's like, listen, if you really want to, you know what I'm saying, you know, be intimate and fudge this nigga, then I need you to hop in the shower, you know, get super clean.

[Paul Pierce]

This was organized.

[Ray J]

Yeah. Once you're done, just have the towel on. When he comes in, just take the towel off and, you know, and do what you want to do, right? Or what you guys said y' all was going to do. Cool. So I walk in, she's out the shower, she takes the towel off. Boom. Pussy, titties, everything. She looked good. I didn't. So I go, okay. It was this chick I was fucking with right before she came in that I really was into. But I was still just trying to put numbers up, you know what I'm saying? And so I did the whole check, you know, I fingered in. And it was different. It was different than the usual test. It felt like it was a decatheter. What is it called?

[Paul Pierce]

The thing. That thing they put.

[Ray J]

They put in there so you don't get pregnant, but you can feel it. Like, it's like.

[Paul Pierce]

You can feel it like. Like that thing, like, for that. That you. I know exactly what he's talking, right?

[Ray J]

And so I. A couple girls like that in the past. And it ripped the condom.

[Azar Faraday]

The iud.

[Paul Pierce]

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Ray J]

Very sharp. So I'm thinking she got the IUD in here. So I'm like, I don't really want to go IUD tonight. Right? So.

[Azar Faraday]

So.

[Paul Pierce]

So we. Right.

[Ray J]

So we. We. We kept talking. I didn't really. I didn't move forward on smashing. I did suck her titty, and I admit that.

[Azar Faraday]

You sucked one titty, two.

[Paul Pierce]

Definitely got the two. Come on. Now.

[Ray J]

Check this out. They were. To me at the time, they were real titties because they were saggy.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay?

[Ray J]

They was like, super saggy. So I'm like, okay, cool. She ain't even. She got natural titties, which I love. Saggy titties, right? Because they can feel it when you suck it on them.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

So long story short, I sucked on her titty. I put my finger in. I decided to just not. Not go there, right? And we. We was just friends. She was. She was somebody's stylist. A real popular person. Stylist. So, boom, a month later, the homie bangs on my door because he. I guess he start her. He was like, bro, that we was with, bro. She's a man. Oh, she's a man. He was like. He was going crazy. I'm like, calm down. Because my heart had dropped. Because I'm like, which one? And he told me which one? And I'm like, oh, okay. Now, I wasn't in the same position he was in, you know, so to speak, because I didn't go all the way. But I told him, listen, you not alone, bro.

[Azar Faraday]

Do you give. Because I've never heard of this. So do you give a finger test every time you have sex with a woman? And what is a finger test? Like, what are you. You're just feeling around to see what's going on in there?

[Ray J]

Honestly, it varies, right? But I just did it. I just remember doing that because I remember the IUD moment, okay? And then I remember the girl that I was with, like 10 minutes before that. I'm like, yo, I gotta get her back in here. She was super fun. So I'm like, trying to speed it up, you know what I'm saying? So I can't. I can get back to the other girl that I really liked. I forgot her name. But what happened was he was tripping. I said, you not alone, bro. I definitely sucked on her titty and I put my finger in her, right? So just to ease his mind, because she was tripping. But they're best friends now, the girl,

[Azar Faraday]

the trans and him. Yeah, okay.

[Ray J]

They super cool. And then I got to know her, and she started showing me pictures of all the niggas in the industry she fucking.

[Azar Faraday]

That's crazy.

[Ray J]

Cause they done dated. They probably didn't know.

[Azar Faraday]

That's not right.

[Ray J]

I mean, I don't think so.

[Azar Faraday]

It's not right.

[Ray J]

I don't think so. But she had got the job 12, like, 12 years ago.

[Azar Faraday]

So it doesn't matter if you got it 37 years ago. Yeah, I mean, you gotta tell and disclose people, hey, I used to be a man and let them decide if they want to mess with pre nigga. That's just it.

[Grainger Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

I mean, yeah. I mean, I think that's fair.

[Azar Faraday]

Because if I'm messing with a man and he's like, listen, I have to be honest. I had sex with a trans. I think I will be turned off and I can't do it anymore. And listen, I have gay friends. I love the gay community. Two of my best friends are gay. Just two gays and my sister. So I love.

[Ray J]

But gays and straights, to me. To me, it's like. And that's why I say the peanut butter and jelly thing. Because if we're all friends or we're all working together, right? And call time was at 2 or call time was at 10.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

If we're all here to work, we're all killing our, our, our positions. We all are on point. We all a solid team, and we are doing our job. When we all leave each other, we're asking, what are we doing in our private spaces when we leave each other? And I think that's tmi. And I think sometimes, to me, it's none of anybody's business, but we're at a point now where you can ask somebody, are you fucking a woman or a man? Which to me is inappropriate.

[Azar Faraday]

But what. Okay, so what if I'm messing with the man, right? And I wanna know, like, are you bi? Cause now it's very fluid. And I would like to know, are you bisexual? Have you ever been with a man? Like, if I get that energy from you.

[Ray J]

Yeah, that's, that's fine if you fucking with somebody. But if, if, if we're just all just shooting the shit.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, I agree.

[Ray J]

Somebody goes, are you gay? That means you want to know what I'm doing when I'm in the room butt naked, getting my dick sucked? Is it. To me, it's inappropriate.

[Azar Faraday]

It is inappropriate.

[Ray J]

It's loud, it's off the chain. You know what I mean? But that's the world we live in now. And that's why when you asked me, I took time with that. Because I don't just have gay friends, I have a lot of gay colleagues. And gay or straight, to me, I think we're taking a human and making them something else. You know what I mean? And so I always been able to be confident to take my time. Because me taking my time seems like I'm gay. If somebody said, have you been with a man? And a takes his goes, hold on, and waits for a minute, that nigga's gay. But, but in this case, it's not. It's not that. It's just. It's a thin line between what's relevant in whatever we talking about or in today's society or what hole I'm fucking.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

Like if I'm. If I like somebody in the nose, then what am I? I'm not gay. I'm not straight. I'm. I'm a nose. What title is that for? You get what I'm saying? Or if I. Somebody in the ear.

[Azar Faraday]

Well, it depends on if it's a man or a woman who you.

[Ray J]

No, that's not true. Because these are just hoes now. They're just different holes we talking. We talking, asshole. We taking pussy.

[Azar Faraday]

I'm crying.

[Paul Pierce]

Ain't nothing gonna fit nobody nose or ear though. I'm trying to tell you. That ain't even gonna turn a motherfucker off.

[Azar Faraday]

So

[Ray J]

that's your opinion of it. But you never know what people like to do.

[Podcast Announcer]

Yeah.

[Azar Faraday]

There's a lot of freakies in it.

[Ray J]

Right? And so.

[Paul Pierce]

Oh, the real he real with us. For real.

[Ray J]

You right.

[Glenn Washington]

You right.

[Paul Pierce]

Absolutely right.

[Ray J]

So what is that title? You know, and so I think titling people is unfair.

[Azar Faraday]

I agree.

[Ray J]

And what hole they're fucking unless you're intimate with them. I think it's over the top. You know, I think it's a very inappropriate question. But it's happening. Like, you got Santa Monica Boulevard. Every boulevard should be Santa Monica.

[Podcast Announcer]

What do you mean?

[Ray J]

Every boulevard should be Sunset. Every boulevard should be Crenshaw. Cause in the sports game, niggas is fucking niggas for sure. Just like niggas is fucking niggas in the fucking stock world or the entertainment industry, whatever it is, Somebody's fucking somebody. Man and woman, man and man, pet and human.

[Azar Faraday]

Now that's crazy.

[Ray J]

It's happening.

[Paul Pierce]

That's crazy.

[Azar Faraday]

And what did the Santa Monica have

[Tremphya Advertiser]

to do with this?

[Ray J]

Meaning like. Meaning like there's a street. And I love Santa Monica Boulevard.

[Tremphya Advertiser]

Okay.

[Ray J]

There's a street, Santa Monica.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

Where people label it as a gay street.

[Azar Faraday]

Got you. Okay.

[Ray J]

But I think every street has gayness to it.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay. You're talking about like West Hollywood, basically.

[Ray J]

West Hollywood or wherever you are in different states, they have like the same kind of style. But I think that we're isolating certain things and making people different than just. We're all just fucking people.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

You know, it's like for me to say, I got a lot of gay friends is like somebody saying, I got a lot of black friends.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, it is.

[Ray J]

Or I got a lot of white friends.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Ray J]

I have two white friends. Right. That sounds crazy. And I have one gay friend. That to me, that's. That, that's racist.

[Azar Faraday]

That's racist.

[Ray J]

Because we just. We. I have friends. I just have friends. Just because my friend's name is Bussy baby doesn't doesn't mean anything. Or back shots. These are my homies.

[Azar Faraday]

Those are your friends names?

[Ray J]

Yeah, they're from the agency.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay. Got you.

[Ray J]

You know, it's not okay.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, I get that.

[Ray J]

You know what I mean? We're all. We're all. We're all in business. Like, we're businessmen, we're business women and I think this whole gay and straight thing is, is. Is disturbing. Yeah, it's concerning.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay.

[Ray J]

Just because I said I'm a stick my pinky in this nigga's ass don't mean I'm gay.

[Azar Faraday]

Right?

[Paul Pierce]

Okay, true that.

[Podcast Announcer]

Yeah.

[Azar Faraday]

And because you say you'll fuck up.

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[Ray J]

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[Ray J]

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[Ray J]

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[Azar Faraday]

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