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Debo
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Joe
So they say Baker Could Baker Mayfield be the Steelers next quarterback after Aaron Rogers? NFL Insider Baker Mayfield would be perfect for the Steelers as he's poised to hit free agency after the 2026? I don't know if he go hit free agency after 2026 because I think he gave them boys until to win was it. I think he gave him some training Clint to to get a chance to I guess you know, get a get a deal done or however where it may be.
Debo
I don't know why we already talking
Joe
about the quarterback for the Steelers next
Debo
year, dude, like, like we talking about. I mean I would talk about it. Oh I mean I guess if it
Joe
was Joe Burrow, you know what I'm saying?
Debo
If it was Joe Burrow, I would do that. But Mike Flores, if it's Baker Mayfield United I, I, I, I ain't tripping. It's Mike.
Joe
If it's Mike Florio, dude, if like he seems to think that what do you say? He said Baker Mayfield would be perfect in Pittsburgh. He would be perfect. He said. I know, I know.
Debo
They would like to get off of
Joe
the train of old veteran quarterbacks. Baker ain't that old either though. But I mean he's a spring chicken compared to Aaron Rodgers. I would make a beeline, he said for Baker Mayfield. If I'm Mike McCarthy and instillers I get through the season and my options are Will Howard and Drew Aller or Mason Rudolph. I'm doing whatever it takes to get to Baker Mayfield and to get Baker Mayfield in Pittsburgh. So that's what he thinks.
Debo
I don't know about that.
Joe's Friend
What are you thinking?
Joe
Me?
Debo
I don't know. I would say yes. I would say it would really have
Joe
to depend on what true the paper development you saw in your players first.
Debo
So we don't know. We still have no clue of what
Joe
Drew or Will can do.
Debo
Drew just got there.
Joe
Will was hurt.
Debo
Like we have no idea.
Joe
Like so if that became to where
Debo
like it was like okay, it was
Joe
a toss up throw up in the air of if he was gonna be able to, or if either one of them was gonna be a automatic, I see him as a starter for us next year, then.
Joe's Friend
Yeah.
Joe
Now that's going to determine what it is that Baker is looking to get from it. And assuming what was his last deal, three year, 100 million, you know, he's either looking for that right now. He's 29. He's looking for that right now, and if not more. And they're obviously, I guess they're balking on it a little bit. And he's. He done gave him a deadline that they got to get the deal done by training camp. So if they don't get that deal done by training camp, then he's like, ain't no deal to get done, and I'm out of here. If we are in that, I don't know if, if he comes wanting, you know, 35, 40 million, do we even.
Joe's Friend
Yeah.
Joe
Do we even think about that versus
Debo
what may be out there? And like I said, it's a whole
Joe
bunch of other stuff that got to
Debo
happen before we even get to that point. Like where we go be at in
Joe
the draft, you know, like what we go be.
Debo
Like, we already go be last, you
Joe
know what I'm saying? Because we about to win the Super Bowl. So, you know, is it something that we can get done?
Debo
Package, whatever, Toss.
Joe
I don't know, to get. Oh, I hate to say this.
Joe's Friend
Go ahead.
Joe
I don't know why that just went through my head.
Joe's Friend
Say it. What you thinking, Debo?
Joe
If the deal can't be done a little peasy, I might have to switch him off for a couple first round picks. Whoa.
Joe's Friend
Hell.
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Joe
I don't even know why I thought of that.
Joe's Friend
No, no, no, no, don't, don't.
Joe
Listen, man, I don't know why.
Joe's Friend
Don't do that. He's no man, you know. You know, he's young. He's telling you.
Debo
I'm just telling you what went through my head. That was all.
Joe's Friend
Okay, I'm glad you told me.
Debo
I was trying to get a quarterback in the first day on the first pick, and I know that when one
Joe's Friend
that went in one ear, out the other.
Debo
Damn. Having gym thoughts, man, they just float through your head. Crazy something, you know what I'm saying?
Joe's Friend
Like, nah, this is what I'm saying. We gotta run. We're gonna run this year.
Debo
Oh, yeah, we gotta, we listen. We gotta sign.
Joe
We gotta sign. Point blank period.
Joe's Friend
That, that, that's point blank period with
Debo
this, this, this, this Baker Mayfield thing.
Joe
I just don't see that happening, especially with us having two guys like Mason Rudolph. I don't think he's going to be there. So I don't even think that's a name that really should have been thrown into it. But, like, until we actually know and have a greater understanding of what Will and Drew can do, I think we. You know, we. We jump to conclusions way too fast about jumping over and giving, you know, Baker Mayfield, he need to be quarterback now.
Debo
Joe Burrow.
Joe
Yeah, I'm g. Stumble and trip and
Debo
fall on my face.
Joe's Friend
Yeah.
Joe
But, I mean, Baker's good. I'm not. I. I ain't got nothing against him, but it's just depending on, you know, what it is. He looking for what he wants. You know, he. He wanna.
Debo
He want to come over here with.
Joe
With, like, you know, Aaron Rogers number. You want to go 25, maybe up to.
Debo
Maybe up to 27 or something like that. Possibly even 30, depending on how I go for a year. Yeah, two. He.
Joe's Friend
He. He had 33. He had 33 right now,
Debo
that might work. But, you know, definitely after the end of the year, we gotta.
Joe
We gotta.
Debo
If he don't get signed, we gotta
Joe
kick the tires and just see what he talking about. You know what I'm saying?
Debo
Yeah.
Joe's Friend
Are we keeping our eyes wide open? We keeping our options open. But we gonna have to know, like you said, we do have two quarterbacks that haven't touched the field for reals, that we Drew Allergies and. I mean, Drew Howard and. And Aller. And Drew Aller. So, like, if we have these players and we finish Eric A Rod does this whole season, and then he obviously retires, what is McCarthy? Like, who. That's why I'm looking at our team. What is the offensive line? What is our running game? How is our team developed? And then are these two dudes that we have, do we see them looking like, are they better than potentially. Baker Mayfield. And I'm not knocking Baker, like you said.
Joe
I'm not.
Joe's Friend
I'm solid. Solid option. I'm not mad at him at all. We had Baker on our team without Aaron Rodgers. I would be happy with that. But we're trying to figure out moving forward, what are all the options? Let's lay all the egg chips on the table, because if you're saying, if it's Joe Burrow, I'm running over everything. I don't care who else was on our roster. You make complete sense. We gonna go get him for when we need him. But with what we got going on now, if Joe Burrow's not there. We can sit there. Chill. Is Drew is the other guy. What does it look like? We could take our time.
Joe
Yeah, for sure. For sure. Hey, Joe, man, we got some. We got some news. We got some news over here in. In Cleveland. Brown seven time Pro Bowler, five time all Pro guard. You know who he is? Joe.
Joe's Friend
Antonio.
Debo
Antonio.
Joe's Friend
Shout out.
Joe
Antonio is retired from NFL 12 seasons. Joe.
Debo
Hey.
Joe's Friend
Yes.
Joe
Remember that great office in line. Joe.
Joe's Friend
Yep.
Joe
Y' all shored up. What happened?
Joe's Friend
Oh, we had to go get.
Narrator/Advertiser
We.
Joe's Friend
We kind.
Joe
First of all, let's talk about it. Make me feel so good.
Joe's Friend
No, because I wanted to get Joe. We didn't want to just skip till we got. We had. We had to get Lyman to replace my man Joe because Joe, great player. 12 years in the league, seven Pro Bowls, five all pros. The model consistency he had was the first he passed Joe Thomas and snaps. You know what I'm saying? So just when I was there, when you got players like Joe Pantonio, seven Pro Bowls, when you were just coming in there doing what you got to do every single day, work. Pale was the captain of the team for a bunch of years. And like Debo, you always laugh. But when you don't have success and then you have players like Joe that come in and do exactly what you. What a. What a team, what a coach, what a gm, what a. What a championship team need, what a championship. What championship teams are looking for, I always just admire that. So when I play, I played with Joe, I played with Joe Thomas and those dudes. When he came in his rookie year, he was right next to Joe T. And was able to play for such a long time and just a model level of consistency, he didn't say too much. But the dudes came in there, you know, those offensive linemen, they just grown men, they don't do nothing flashy. He had a truck. He chilled. He didn't say nothing. He had his wife, he had his family. And it just was Joe, he just smooth. You knew he was. He was about business. It wasn't. No, it was. He a joke around with you and stuff. But end of the day, Joe's coming in here to do his job. He got a job to do. If you ask him what's going on, he knows exactly what to do. He's never not on time. He's always professional, always just carried himself at a very high character. So when you see dudes in the legions moving around and you just see grown men on your team that you respect and you know that they did it the right way. Love him and he. He deserves everything that he gets. So I think he's a future hall of Fame, honestly. So it was him and Joe T. Those two dudes. And Alex Smith. Alex Mack. I had, like, legitimate offensive lineman that we played for the Browns that just were work pale dudes. Lunch, lunch work pails just came in there, did their jobs every day, actually.
Joe
We have. We have what he said at his retirement press conference. Listen, Joe.
Covenant Life
Play garden NFL. I was drafted the same year as Johnny Manziel, and we actually roomed together. I learned some things not to do from him. I got the opportunity to play with and learn from so many guys. I learned how to be egoless from Nick Chubb. I learned to always smile like Christian Kirksey. I learned a chief slam from David and Joku. I learned how to be fiery and competitive from Baker.
Joe
Oh, oh, oh. Fire. Competitive. Sound like a good dude, man.
Joe's Friend
Really good dude, Debo. Really good.
Joe
I ain't sad he gone. I'm happy. Great.
Debo
Good job. Go retire. Have your life. Live your life, man.
Joe
You did a great job, you know?
Joe's Friend
You know, he remind me of bro that played for the Steelers.
Debo
I knew you was about to say the Castro.
Joe's Friend
The Castro. He reminded me of the Castro brother, too. I should have said, like, literally, they the same dude. Grown man coming that joint, doing his job to the best of his ability, like all pros. You know what I'm saying? Just coming. I'm like, he makes it look easier than everybody else. He's just chilling, like, getting the job done, writing the spots, the steps and everything. So when I. When I came there, I'm like, this thing remind me of Joe. Like the Castro. The same. So super similar dude.
Stefano Pollard
Yeah.
Debo
Hey, bro.
Joe
So your boys, Miles Garrett, I guess he. He really meant what he said. So by not getting a raise, Miles Garrett would be taking a pay cut in California. So the Browns owed Garrett 179 million from 2026 through 2030. The Rams, oh. Garrett the same 179 million from 26 through 30. Now, given the significant difference in state income tax rate between Ohio and California, 3.125% versus 13.3, Garrett will lose 10% of his gross pay that he would have had in Cleveland. He now loses that because he went over there to la. Hey, look here, man. I'm trying to tell you, man. Look here, man.
Debo
Hey, man, I thought he was bull fraggle rocking. The man meant what he said last
Joe
year when he said he want to win. He went on.
Debo
He could have told them People, hey, man, bump this up to get that disparity out of there. You know, when I come over there, I need that 10 back. But he didn't. He said, hey, I'm over here, I want to win. I'm willing to lose 10 of my money. I'm gonna pay 10 to come over here and win.
Joe
That's Joe. Hey, he meant what he said. Joe.
Debo
Joe, would you.
Joe
Would you go?
Joe's Friend
Yes.
Joe
I know you would.
Joe's Friend
I lived in la. Is end of the day. Debo. I hear you. It's what the weather. I call it the weather tax.
Debo
Joe, I understand what you're saying, but
Joe's Friend
that weather, it's beautiful out there. So 100 was saying.
Debo
Are you telling me you're telling me that. Listen, Joe, you telling me that weather's tax you was worth 17.9 to you?
Joe's Friend
17?
Debo
Hello.
Joe's Friend
Honestly, 17.9. What do you want me to do? If I'm going to LA and I'm making the 40 million more, that's what
Debo
y' all gonna do.
Joe's Friend
That's what's gonna happen. But all I know is my portion. That's still gonna be fine. That's still gonna be fine. I'm gonna be in la. I'm gonna be out here in the beautiful weather. Every single day. I'm gonna wake up.
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Podcast Host
Really?
Parent
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Debo
Hello?
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Joe's Friend
do whatever I want to go do. Beautiful sunshine. I'm going to go out here, win Super Bowls with Matthew Stafford. I'm going to be coached by Sean McVay and guess what? I'm going to run up the bag again. So like Miles isn't really like the most flashy dude like you said. I understand 7. That's 17.9 crazy over the 45 years of the contract. I understand, but which you just not so all, all of the players that go to LA though, like you just. I understand that's just what it is. You're going to get taxed because you're in the state of California. So you can't they not paying no more. I mean it's. It's. It's weather tax. He's going over there. He's about to go when some and that's just. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not. If I'm going to California and I'm gonna go out there and play with them and I'm making that 40 and I'm hearing what you're saying with the taxes a thousand percent I'm gonna be sick. But give me minds let's go win this show.
Debo
So you go out happy then
Joe's Friend
I'm still outside. I'm you not gonna like what I gotta say. I love. I'm gonna be working for it. I'm gonna be grinding. I hope we gonna go going to go get it. I'm still on the team next season. I'm still getting another 40 after then I did I'm get taxed again. I'm getting taxed everywhere. You can't help the taxes. So I could try to do get some. Get some write offs do all of that stuff get a good tax crew. We gotta figure out a way to on the on another go buy them five hundred thousand dollar tickets and then go write that off and get some tax write offs.
Debo
Don't need no tax write off. They taking it now. Joe when you get paid as a W2 you don't you trying to get back not write it off.
Joe's Friend
Well all I know is this Miles is fine and if I was out there I would be thinking the same. I'm going to be fine.
Joe
Joe. Joe At 10% angle they gotta make it up.
Joe's Friend
So with Matthew Stafford. With Matthew Stafford should he. Should he just get a like what should he be asking the Rams for more because they're getting taxed more than when he was in Detroit.
Debo
Let yes he should. He should make sure he get that percentage on top.
Joe
Yes, of course. Who wouldn't.
Debo
Yes they traded him over there right. Okay.
Joe's Friend
Yes.
Debo
Yes. This trade when you trade me son. Hey you think I'm coming here just to cut. No, you go give me that 10 on top right now.
Joe's Friend
LA.
Debo
I don't give a damn about LA. You Joe. For $18 million. Joe
Joe's Friend
you okay. Okay Debo.
Debo
You're.
Joe's Friend
I'm. I'm gonna go play in LA with my same deal. Go out there and ball out and be chilling hope like it's. What was it you said $17 million.
Debo
17.9. It's. It's 179 million. 10% of that 1 million. 17.9, Joe.
Joe's Friend
That's another 4. 4 million a year. So instead of making $40 million a year, it's 36 million.
Debo
Stop trying to break down the year and look at the total.
Joe's Friend
I hear you with the total, db.
Debo
Now, don't forget, they go tax. You want some money, so you gonna be paying more than that. They got a neighborhood tax. They gotta, they gotta, they gotta.
Joe's Friend
They got a mansion tab. You sell the car.
Debo
They got traffic tax over there. Oh, they got road tax for driving on the road.
Joe's Friend
But guess what the man got.
Debo
Okay, he got the bag and he about to be.
Joe's Friend
So he could swear once you get. I live. I. I love la. I love.
Debo
I don't. I can't. I can't.
Joe's Friend
I lived out there for six years
Debo
because after that one day I'm in debt. I gotta get home and work for the next two months to get out.
Joe's Friend
There you go. Why you gotta. Why you gotta do so much every. You could just ride around. Window shopper.
Debo
The gas is gonna kill me. Nothing. Joe. I gotta sleep somewhere. You want me to sleep on the streets?
Joe's Friend
No, Debo. I got a crib, see? I had a crib. You could have stayed at the crib.
Debo
I didn't know you then.
Joe's Friend
Yeah, you didn't. Like what? See, I would have had you lit in la. I don't believe that.
Debo
Like, I still ain't got them shoes you was talking about back in 2017.
Joe's Friend
I did end up getting you some shoes. I did get you some shoes.
Debo
You had them.
Joe's Friend
I got you some. I got you some shoes. I know I did. I got everybody's shoes. I did. I got the whole. See, don't be lying. Don't be lying. I don't know you got them. I gave them to everybody. I gave everybody.
Debo
I wasn't there. You gave them out for Christmas. I wasn't there. I was in. I was in New England.
Joe's Friend
See? See? Okay. I see. Okay, you're right.
Debo
Kicked out the playoffs and I was going to the Super Bowl.
Joe's Friend
Okay. At least we had. They had Jays, though. At least I got. Everybody had Jays, though.
Debo
Everybody had their Jays, though.
Joe's Friend
On the way today, on the way to the airport. Everybody had their J's on.
Debo
Listen, bro.
Joe's Friend
Hey, what's up?
Debo
Kyler Murray, man.
Joe
Jj Ricardo Ripen for the quarterback for the Vikings quarterback job. So Kyler Murray, he on a one year deal. McCarthy is entering his third year and Justin Jefferson, dude, he had. He had some high words to say about Ricardo. He. He said he understands the game. He understands the defense. He understands just how to put touch on the ball just enough to where
Debo
it gets to where it's got to
Joe
go without making it difficult for us.
Debo
So he understands the game a lot
Joe
more just because he's been in the game for a couple years. For a couple years now. And my mic still working. Did I mess it up?
Debo
Yeah, yeah.
Joe's Friend
You good.
Joe
So he kind of throws the ball
Debo
before you even get out of that break.
Joe
Throws you open for sure. He's a smart guy. He's a competitor, just like me. Joe. Joe.
Joe's Friend
Yes, sir. Yeah.
Joe
Well, hey, what you hear, you know me because you know, you know me. I always read in between lines. So would you.
Debo
What you hear, Joe?
Joe
Tell me what that sound like to you, Joe.
Joe's Friend
It sound like he. It sound like he want that to be his qb. That's what it sounds like to me. It sound like, man throwing them open. It sound like he don't know how he hasn't been thrown open too many times before. When you talking about his throwing them before he comes out of his breaks, it just sounds like a vet veteran quarterback. When I went. When I came over from the Browns to the Steelers and I started playing and not trying to put Kyler Murray in Ben's spur at all, but Ben, when you had a quarterback like that, he's throwing the ball to spots where people need to be to the spot. When he's saying throwing people open. If somebody's on you on the top shoulder and you put it to the back shoulder like just a regular quarter, you have to play a ball placement and you got to be able to read. You're looking off the linebacker. You want him to go short so then the dig can open up behind you. So you look down and then you throw it to the dig. So there, like you, you're manipulating the defenses. You're throwing people open, you're throwing comebacks. When they come out of the break, the ball is already out towards the sideline. So now he just got to throw his hands out, put his feet in. The ball's already here. So I think he's just saying that the vet presence of him putting the ball in places where I don't have the younger quarterbacks waiting. I see him. I have to see him open before I throw the ball. You cannot do that in the National Football League. You have to be able to expect him to be in a spot and throw it time and be able to put it in the spot before the dude gets there. So for me, it sounded like Jefferson is Saying that my other man's the other quarterback. The backup wasn't doing it. And Kyler Murray showing him some. Some stuff that he likes.
Debo
The backup.
Joe's Friend
You.
Debo
You made the man the backup already.
Joe's Friend
I mean. I mean, look, the. The quarterback that we're in competition with, jj. Oh.
Joe
Oh, you mean it started from last year? Yeah, that you said. You said back up, yo. Listen. No, I'm reading in between lines. I'm a man like to read in between lines because it's. It's not always about the words you say. It's about the words you don't say. It's not about the things you say. It's about the things you don't say.
Joe's Friend
Okay.
Joe
Okay. By the things he said, by the things he didn't say, it sound like. It sound like JJ might be out there at OTAs doing that same stuff he was doing last year during the season, because he didn't give any. Ah, he's doing this and doing that. And you know what? J.J. is. He's actually doing the same thing. So it's.
Debo
Nope,
Joe
it ain't. They ain't sound like it. You know, Murray's still.
Debo
Still young.
Joe
Is. For a quarterback was 29.
Debo
He don't turn 29 to August.
Cat Advertiser
Yeah.
Joe's Friend
So.
Joe
And, And. And. And Jefferson said, you know, it'd be nice to have the same quarterback for a couple years. This might be the opportunity to say, I had the same quarterback for a couple years.
Debo
He obviously saying that my quarterback ain't gonna be the same quarterback from last year. Already he's saying that without saying it. It'd be nice to have a court. Same quarterback for a couple years. Well, if. If he thought it was gonna be the same quarterback from last year, it already. It'd be a couple years right now.
Joe
Right.
Debo
I'm just saying. I'm just saying
Joe's Friend
he, you know, he's liking. He's putting the ball. He's. He's throwing him open.
Debo
Yes, sir.
Joe's Friend
I mean, you told me. He starts saying that, and he's not saying that about. I mean, maybe the question was how much. How. What is Kyler Murray showing us? Maybe he didn't even have to bring up jj. You know what I'm saying? You don't have to put up one man to put the other one down. You know what I'm saying? Maybe that. I mean, still, he. He understands the game. He understands.
Debo
I understand that. But that.
Joe's Friend
But touch on the ball.
Joe
All good quarterbacks do that.
Debo
Obviously, this is something that he hasn't
Joe
been used to seeing, and he's Excited about it. Yeah.
Joe's Friend
Basically. Debo, I'm just trying to not. Not. Yeah, he's saying he likes you.
Debo
Trying to not. Not what? Trying not to tell the truth.
Joe's Friend
No, I'm trying.
Debo
He's trying not to read into something.
Joe's Friend
No, I already told. I. I put my man on the bench almost exactly. You know what I'm saying? So what you mean? I'm trying to let him know. I'm trying to let him know. I'm trying to let him know easily
Debo
how I think he's going down.
Joe's Friend
Justin Jefferson, best receiver, just kind of made Kyler Murray the starter, so I think you makes jj. You might go to the bench.
Joe
Dope question, brother. Yeah, let's check out these snap. Let's check out these super chats. Covenant Life. Covenant Life back. Hold up. Got a number on there where it's at. Y' all ain't put the number on there. I'm g. Have to go over here to the chat, y'.
Debo
All.
Joe
I'm g. Have to scroll down right here, baby. We got Covenant Life. $19. She said y' all probably don't realize, but the joy and laughter you can bring. The joy and laughter you bring can reach people on days they're barely holding it together. Thank you for being more than just athletes and for giving people moments that generally matter. Thank you, Covenant Life.
Joe's Friend
Thank you, Covenant Life.
Debo
She's talking about me.
Joe's Friend
Come on.
Joe
They used to see you.
Joe's Friend
No, no, no. My laughter coming to life.
Debo
Tell them who you're talking about.
Joe's Friend
Who?
Debo
Who.
Joe
Go ahead.
Joe's Friend
And it's gonna. It's gonna piss you off.
Joe
I know she ain't gonna say.
Joe's Friend
It's all good.
Joe
I know she ain't gonna say you.
Joe's Friend
Yep.
Joe
Look here.
Joe's Friend
My life.
Joe
We got Stillers, Dash. Loyal Mac stillers. Loyal Mac. $10 said the Steelers should. The Steelers trade. Ain't nobody gonna trade for Mason Rudolph should the Steelers trademark. I don't know why I said it. I don't know why I said that. Listen, let me start on. Should Distillers trade Mason Rudolph and Will. Will Howard be the number and make Will Howard the number two and Drew Aller the number three? Or are they. Are the Steelers trying to trade heist? I don't know about trading Heisman. They already said they got some. They got a way to work that out. See, I'll be stopping in the middle stuff talking. What part of the defense has you the most hyped? So should the Steelers trade Mason Rudolph and make Will Howard the number two and Drew Aller the number three and are the Steelers trying to trade Highsmith. What part of the defense has you most hyped? So for me they're not going to trade Mason Rudolph because I don't think we can get anything for him, to be honest. Who they're going to make one and two I think will depend on who does the best in OTA's training camp and all that. And trading Highsmith is not going to happen because they just paid Herbic and I feel like he's gonna. It's going to be a transition over the next couple years where we keep that group and you know, like I said after that second year when TJ's guarantee is done, I think he jumps to 40. Something else million that last year and he's going to be 34, 35. I think they releasing you.
Joe's Friend
I'm going with. I don't know about the trade with Mason. I think will Howard probably be too because we got him before Drew. But then like you said, equal competition. See who's going to be ahead on that spot. Highsmith. No, keep Highsmith. I don't think we're going to trade him. I think where we got. Like you said, we got tj, we got Nick Herbic and we have Highsmith under contract for the next two years. Steelers don't need to get rid of talent that we have. We can still accumulate as much. And then with this D line pressure, three starting real guys, you know what I'm saying? That could really get it done. And then what part I'm excited about the secondary because I think with the. I just don't. I think the communication. Once we have communication, the body on bodies is people don't always. People aren't making plays on us. When we're in the right position then it's going to be a lot more to see. So I think with the secondary just being a body on the body, the communication, everybody just being lined up in the right position when the ball is snapped. I think that's what I'm most excited to see.
Joe
Yes. Yeah. I'm excited to see the defense, period. To see them under a new scheme. See them communicate, work together. Yes. Coordinated effort where everybody is on the same page. Covenant life back again 19. I always speak the nicest things I can when it comes to your true love. Yeah them janky ass Browns. Okay. Was it Benito Antonio said the great
Debo
hope
Joe
the great hope gone said the great hope is the the great. Dude, you got to give me full sentences. Covenant life. You know I have.
Parent
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Really?
At a playground?
Yeah, really. Look at these listings from dealers.
Wow, your search can really get that specific.
Really?
And you just put in your info and boom. Car's in your budget.
Mom needs a second.
Honey, you can really have it delivered.
Really? Or I can pick it up at the dealership. One sec, sweetie. Mommy's buying a car.
Debo
Mommy, look.
Parent
I think your kid is walking up the slide.
Joe
Kyle.
Debo
Again?
Joe
Really?
Parent
Autotrader. Buy your car online. Really?
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Joe's Friend
Hello?
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Joe
trouble anyway said the great hope gone. So I'm out with a big smiles on my face. Can I. What the freak.
Joe's Friend
Can I get one of your brown jerseys or sign football? I got you covered it. Facts.
Debo
A Browns jersey.
Joe's Friend
Chill out, Debo. There. You knew.
Joe
See that?
Debo
Yep.
Joe's Friend
You see that? I know.
Debo
Ain't nobody talking to you.
Joe's Friend
I told you.
Debo
Close your mouth. I'm talking to her. What you talking about a Browns jersey?
Joe's Friend
Yeah.
Debo
I would send somebody to go burn up that.
Joe's Friend
Can I get one of your brown jerseys or sign football?
Ryan Seacrest
Hey, you.
Debo
He send you a brown shirt. You send me my Steeler jersey back.
Joe's Friend
Nope. See? Covered it. You. You could. You did that. You did that. You let him know. I. I told you. I told you. Debo
Debo
coming to life. Back again.
Joe
Oh, Lord, she said.
Debo
Let me see, let me see.
Joe
Drake London signed a four year extension for 141 million with the Rams. We need Porter to silence him on our first game or Dean somebody. Will Anderson said the Texans have Super bowl caliber players. We can let them run us down like before.
Joe's Friend
You Drake. Drake London from the Atlanta Falcons. Signed.
Debo
When?
Joe's Friend
With the Rams. Hold up, man.
Joe
We letting covenant life run us astray.
Joe's Friend
No, no, no. I'm saying four years. Okay? No. Did she say he signed the deal with the Falcons?
Debo
Who did?
Joe's Friend
Drake London. Drake London.
Joe
Okay, so with the Falcons.
Joe's Friend
Yes.
Joe
A contract extension. Got you.
Debo
Okay.
Joe's Friend
Yes.
Joe
So we need. Okay, I got you. Dean somebody. Who is Dean Somebody.
Joe's Friend
35 million a year. Who you talking about?
Joe
Do we. She won, Will.
Joe's Friend
Oh, you know our corner. Our corner that we signed Dean, He's. So we played. London signed the badge. The receiver. Wide receiver for the Atlanta Falcons. He just signed a big deal for $35 million per year. We must play the Falcons. She's saying we.
Debo
I don't think we play the Falcons. Don't we play Atlanta? I thought we. I mean, I'm sorry.
Joe
I thought we played the Texans. Why am I drawing a blank on this? Oh, opening game, Atlanta.
Debo
See, it's at home.
Joe
Come on. You got us on that one.
Debo
See, you threw me off coming to life. You gave me some wrong information. You gave me some right information. Now you got me thinking about the Texans. Like, don't we play the Texans, too? I thought we played the Texans, too. Yes, we do. Yeah, because I was looking at that one. I know we got to play them boys again. Because I was like, yo, we got to go ahead and get that. Get back. Now that we got, we gonna have a strong defense with us. That's gonna be coordinated effort. Offense, two run game, we go be there.
Joe
For sure. We over here, we got J Dub, Akron, $10. He said, Debo, back a while.
Covenant Life
You were.
Joe
Been a while, Debo. Damn it, dude, Been a while. I'm up bad.
Debo
Ain't no devo. Been a while. You were cool with my boys years back.
Joe
We came to camp back in 05 and got your number. Was supposed to hang out, but life got in the way and you blew up. Keep grinding, bro. Hashtag 330Strong. You don't know nothing about that 330, Joe.
Joe's Friend
Man, I honestly don't.
Joe
The 330, when you talking about. That's Akron, AK, Roddy, Roddy, west side. Some county is right down the street.
Joe's Friend
Shout out, go ahead. Okay. Don't bang on me, Debo.
Joe
Man, don't make me throw up that three three zero crazy. Make me throw at that three hundred thirty.
Debo
He said, he said. He said I blew up. And then I, I.
Joe
That was it.
Joe's Friend
He blew up. And then you just blew up and done.
Debo
Now, my dog, he said. He said I blew up. Hey, bro, listen, I ain't gonna lie to you. If you met me in 05, I
Joe's Friend
did not want to tell you.
Joe
Nope, nope.
Debo
He met me in 05 in O5. I ain't gonna lie to you, bro. I had five phones
Joe's Friend
got, see, trapped up. You got.
Debo
I did not know where I was. Don't need more than.
Joe's Friend
You don't need more than one.
Debo
I was trapping for show. I didn't know if I was gonna be in the league long. I had to do what I had to do.
Joe's Friend
Wow.
Debo
See, I was making two grand a month.
Joe's Friend
Oh, gosh. You did what?
Debo
Two grand a month, Joe. I was on practice squad.
Parent
Whoa,
Debo
I'm out. Yo, I'm saying, yo, listen, I ain't even lied to you, bro. I was changing my number as like. Like I was changing my number more than I was changing my underwear, bro. And I changed them every day.
Joe's Friend
Shot to be more.
Debo
I'm trying to tell you, Joe, man. So. So by then, bro, I ain't gonna lie to you, man. I don't had. Probably had at least a 15, 20 phones since then. I had five at one time, you know, I didn't change my number so much. I can't even remember numbers no more, man.
Joe
Be like, man, what this? I don't know.
Joe's Friend
I never. I never had more than one phone though. You know what I'm saying?
Debo
You was drafted, Joe. Money, other ways.
Joe's Friend
Wow. I'm you. You were in the league.
Debo
I had what?
Joe's Friend
Yes.
Debo
I gotta re up. I'm getting this right here now. I could go re up.
Joe's Friend
Wow. I see you had a plan B.
Debo
Wild man B. Before the A even started.
Joe's Friend
I did get. See, there you go. You know what I'm saying?
Joe
The good.
Joe's Friend
I hear you, Debo. And that don't mean you got to. That don't mean you got to be crazy. I wasn't.
Debo
I ain't get caught.
Joe's Friend
You were.
Debo
You're.
Joe's Friend
The story you said about my man's pulling up.
Debo
What man, you going.
Joe's Friend
Your man's. That was in there trying to drink it.
Joe
Listen, Joe, that's a different story.
Joe's Friend
Yeah.
Debo
You know what happened.
Joe's Friend
See, that's what, that's what I'm saying.
Debo
This is what happened.
Joe's Friend
Stories you have. This is your real life. You are wild.
Debo
That was my real life. Listen, that situation.
Joe
Yeah.
Debo
Was what it was. He knew what he did. Actually, Myron hit me up, dude. He actually hit me up on my grand. Yeah, yeah. Did I send you that? Yeah, yeah. He hit me up, man. You know, he said he. He thought. Hey, he was like, yo, that's. That was funny, dude. Like, I wasn't gonna do nothing to him. You know what I'm saying? Like, if he hadn't drank it, I mean, I wouldn't have killed him. I'd have had to at least shoot him.
Joe's Friend
No, no, I know you wouldn't. I know you would. I know you. I know you would. No, I had. But. But you would have pistol whipped him.
Debo
I know. I had to at least shoot him.
Joe
I'd had to leave.
Joe's Friend
Shoot. No, Debo, you wouldn't have shot him on campus.
Debo
If I didn't. If I didn't. My Rep my. What do I'mma do? I Idle threat.
Joe's Friend
Then if you didn't, then you just sp.
Debo
So if he didn't drink. If he had to drink, I'd have had at least grazing, you know what I'm saying? Like, oh, man, he gonna run up out of there. You know, I thought I had probably bust a couple air. Bye.
Joe's Friend
Bye.
Debo
Like, I was still trying to get him.
Joe's Friend
I promise you. Yeah, see, I'm not. I couldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to really hang out with you.
Debo
Hey, what are you talking about?
Joe's Friend
No, I'm saying back in the day.
Debo
Back in the day, that person was different, Joy. That was not a saved man, Joe.
Joe's Friend
That's what I'm saying.
Debo
That was not a save, man.
Joe's Friend
Come on, Debo. You are a wild.
Debo
I'm not.
Joe
Listen, you are.
Debo
Listen, I'm just trying to tell you that's why you didn't have my number. That's all I was trying to say. You went somewhere else with it, man. You done made the people think that I ain't a good person, man. I'm a good person, man.
Joe's Friend
No, Debo, you are a really good person, bro. Thousand percent wild man for show, though.
Joe
Hey, look here.
Joe's Friend
Yeah.
Debo
We got 50 Mexican.
Joe
Oh, why did I say that?
Joe's Friend
Let's go.
Debo
That's right.
Joe
It's a Mexican.
Joe's Friend
Mexican.
Joe
I don't know.
Debo
Okay.
Joe
All right.
Debo
$50. Yeah.
Joe
Okay. Carlos Alvarez. 7 044-debo- rocking Greg, lower shirt. Yes, sir.
Debo
Joe.
Joe
Joe. Say, Joe.
Joe's Friend
I wasn't high for my disposition.
Joe
How. How,
Debo
Joe, how about you?
Joe
Oh, get a blunt hat. Next.
Debo
Whoa.
Joe
That's called a cowboy hat.
Debo
A blunt hat.
Joe's Friend
Oh, I got not.
Debo
Not the blunt. What are you thinking, Joe? Oh, my God.
Joe's Friend
Yeah, I, I. Boy, I didn't know what he was. I'm like, dang, man. You wanted me with the leaf hat on. On. Just.
Debo
Yo, I'll be right back. Hold on, hold on.
Joe's Friend
Just the whole. Just the whole cannabis. You know what I'm saying? I. I can't do that. That was diabolical. All right. What's up, Coveted? Okay, we got another one from coveted. 19. Coveted life. I like causing friction with both of you. I also know as being messy when it comes to who is we. See, that's why I, I, I'm. I messed up with the week because sometimes Debo.
Debo
Hey, Joe, you messed that up, man.
Joe's Friend
Sometimes. See? Hey, man, hold on, hold on. Who is we? That's a blunt. That's a blunt. That's a cowboy.
Joe
Hey, Mel.
Debo
Blunt.
Joe
Now you understand
Debo
Green Lord, right here
Joe's Friend
talking about Mel Blunt.
Debo
Okay, you're talking about a Blunt. See, look at you. I don't do, I don't know nothing about no drugs. I don't even know what the blood is. Somebody told me what it was. She said she like causing friction with the both of us. Joe, as you know,
Joe's Friend
I'm a finished cup, I'm a finished color, I'm a finish go ahead. Being messed up when it comes to who is we, Joe, I love you both. And I love our not Joe's, but our Steelers. Yes, Debo, because he is going in the hall of Fame jersey, please.
Debo
I reckon, I reckon we can forgive
Joe
you on this one considering he is a, a good, loyal friend of mine. Now consider him to be my brother a thousand percent.
Debo
You know, I, I, I love my I, I whooping ass and maybe kill somebody over too. So I reckon, I reckon you right. Hey, hey, Joe, I' ma need, I
Joe
need one of them Browns jerseys too. I guess I reckon I'll put it
Joe's Friend
up there die too.
Joe
You put it on my bottom shelf, maybe on my floor as a, you know, I'm uploading.
Joe's Friend
I'm gonna put it somewhere where you can see it.
Joe
Oh, I reckon, I reckon we got something going good right here. Boy, look here.
Debo
Yeah, we got another one right here in this chat. Right there. Still a loyal matt. 5$. He said you guys are great. How many wins do distillers get this season? How many wins the Steelers get this season? Love your content. What you say, Joe? I reckon I let you say. What you, what you think gonna happen first?
Joe's Friend
I reckon.
Debo
You reckon? What you reckon now
Joe's Friend
it's gonna be third.
Debo
30. 13.
Joe's Friend
Ah, 12 or 13. 12.
Debo
13. Hey, I reckon, I reckon you were in the right range, but
Joe's Friend
I'm gonna
Joe
give them two more.
Joe's Friend
Oh, you going 15 to 2.
Joe
15.
Debo
2.
Joe's Friend
All right.
Joe
Ain't gonna be no worse than 13.
Joe's Friend
13 at least. I went 12. I'm go 12 at least. But mine, 13 for real. 13 to 4. Yep. Them boys going I already know because now I'm geek. I already know what it is. I'm my bro. I'm shooting for 10 over there. And now I know for us over here for the Steelers, 13 minimum, 12 minutes.
Joe
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
Debo
Well, I, I reckon. Ladies and gentlemen, that's all about all the time we got right now. We want to show enough appreciate you guys and tell you how much we care and appreciate you guys coming on and watching us every day. You know that we on here on that Monday, Tuesday and Friday. Interacting with us and having a good old, good old time, good old showdown, you know? Yes, yes, you know, and joe, Joe,
Joe's Friend
yo, like debo said, I appreciate everybody giving on, tapping in with us. And we will be here same time, same place, on all right now, we
Debo
gonna see y' all around there.
Joe
Howdy.
Joe's Friend
Now get it.
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Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Date: June 12, 2026
Host/Panel: Debo, Joe, and friends
Theme: Modern NFL QB shuffles, notable retirements, and open, candid locker-room talk about today’s league, contracts, and culture.
This episode of Club Shay Shay centers on timely NFL topics: speculation about Baker Mayfield joining the Steelers, the retirement of Browns All-Pro lineman Joel Bitonio, the financial realities of superstar moves (like Miles Garrett’s trade to LA), and classic barbershop banter—equal parts jokes, stories, and candid player insight. The hosts react to news, break down roster moves, and answer fan questions, with plenty of unfiltered charm.
On Baker Mayfield to the Steelers:
On Miles Garrett eating the 'weather tax':
On Joel Bitonio’s legacy:
On old NFL hustle:
This episode is a lively NFL roundtable, where Deebo, Joe, and friends debate hot league topics—Baker Mayfield’s next move, the impact of Joel Bitonio’s retirement, and the “price of winning” in big-market teams like LA. It’s a mix of streetwise financial realism, deep respect for locker-room legends, and a heavy dose of banter about life in the league and the identities forged there. Perfect for anyone who wants the real story, unfiltered opinions, and the kind of inside jokes and stories you only get from players who lived it.
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