Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Steelers pay Nick Herbig & Darnell Washington + NBA Finals Game 1 REACTION

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Steelers Pay Nick Herbig & Darnell Washington + NBA Finals Game 1 Reaction (June 5, 2026)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, NFL legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden dive into the Pittsburgh Steelers' recent contract deals with Nick Herbig and Darnell Washington, breaking down what these moves mean for the team’s future. The hosts also deliver a passionate, in-depth reaction to Game 1 of the 2026 NBA Finals, analyzing key performances, strategic adjustments, and fan antics, all in their signature lively, no-nonsense style.

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NBA FINALS GAME 1 REACTION

(Main discussion: 03:02–13:00)

Spurs vs Knicks – Physicality and Matchups

• Deebo immediately feels shaken after Game 1, worried that the Spurs may be “cooked” after seeing how the Knicks handled Victor Wembanyama ("Wemby"):

  • "I think we might be cooked." (05:07 – Deebo)
  • Cites the physical toll: "They put them bodies on him, that boy was exhausted. They got two seven footers over there, man." (05:17)

• Joe breaks down Carl Anthony Towns’ performance as critical to the Knicks' success:

  • "Shout out Carl Anthony Towns. If he can guard Wemby, put that body on him... Offensively he was aggressive, 18 points, 12 boards, only shot two trebles." (07:06)

Game Is a Must-Win For the Spurs

• Both agree Spurs have to adjust quickly to stay in the series:
  • "It's a must win tonight, it's a must win, a thousand percent." (08:22 - Joe)
  • They call for strategic lineup changes—get rookie Dylan Harper more minutes if Fox isn't producing.

Fan Behavior & Security

• Deebo and Joe riff on the recent fan incident where a court invader attempted a selfie:
  • Deebo: "Y'all can't even keep the damn fans off the court, man." (09:15)
  • Hilarious take on security slacking, referencing Messi’s bodyguard: "You need somebody like him, Silent Assassin." (11:54 – Joe)
  • "They too busy watching the game. Security up there watching the game." (12:07 – Deebo)

Memorable Quotes

• On Knicks’ Physicality: “Wim is seven foot four, 230, bro. That’s victim weight, bruh.” (05:47 – Deebo)
• On court stormers: “When you run up out there now, that’s criminal trespassing… When I slammed that Browns player, I found out after that, that was criminal trespassing… I would have thrown that arm behind his back.” (10:00 – Deebo)

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STEELERS CONTRACT BREAKDOWN: NICK HERBIG AND DARNELL WASHINGTON

(Main discussion: 13:00–39:24)

Nick Herbig: The New Era of Steelers’ Linebackers

• The Steelers sign Nick Herbig to a 5-year, $104 million contract ($41-42 million guaranteed):

  • “Linebacker Nick Herbig to a five year contract. Dude, five year, 145. Okay?...something like $41, $42 million guaranteed.” (13:41-13:59 – Deebo & Joe)

• Joe’s Verdict: Overwhelmingly supportive of the deal, likening Herbig’s stats to Jared Verse and noting his impact despite limited snaps:

  • “His numbers and his stats, to me, in his last two years, similar to Jared Verse… He’s out there balling, getting the snaps that he’s getting and producing at a very high level.” (14:37–Joe)

• Contract Strategy: The hosts praise GM Omar Khan for the team-friendly deal, locking in talent before prices escalate:

  • “Dudes are making $50 million. It’s going to go nowhere but up. I’d rather sign him now.” (18:32–Joe)
  • “Now we have a three man rotation [Watt, Highsmith, Herbig]… let’s max these dudes out.” (19:47–Joe)

• Rotational Depth and Future Planning:

  • Deebo: "You can never have enough players, especially in the outside linebacker position. They’re all playmakers… Now we get to see what the Pittsburgh Steelers defense is supposed to look like." (21:01–James "Deebo" Harrison)

  • Joe: “Highsmith, you’re under contract, it’s all now. You gotta play, you gotta ball. T.J. Watt… has two more years on his deal. Just the consistency of playing out high level… That’s why Nick Herbig, we signed you.” (24:48–Joe)

Darnell Washington: Tight End Extension

• Steelers extend TE Darnell Washington for four years, $42 million (with $21 million in guarantees):

  • “Darnell Washington to a nice four year, $42 million extension.” (26:41–Deebo)
  • “That’ll be the low [career high], ’cause I’m expecting him to go over that again.” (27:04–Deebo)

• Physical Dominance:

  • “What are y’all talking about? ... This man can do both. Whoop on your ass. Whoop on the D lineman ass, too, if he get the right one...” (27:10–Deebo)
  • “He putting... Did you see where he pull block on the boy? Come across and just laid him down, boy.” (27:29–Deebo)
  • Joe jokes about tackling Washington: “What I’m not about to do is run out there and get speed bumped by big bro… I gotta go for your legs so your upper body goes down.” (27:48–Joe)

• Development and Leadership:

  • Credit to Aaron Rodgers’ mentorship: “A Rod gave some high praise to Washington… continued to get his body in shape, his mind… a super smart player.” (29:20–Deebo)
  • Deebo observes: "You need to know and understand and learn what you're looking at as a receiver… That’s a lot of things younger guys don’t know." (31:09–Deebo)

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TAKE ON THE STEELERS’ NEW DIRECTION & ORGANIZATIONAL PHILOSOPHY

Respect for Omar Khan & the Front Office

• Deebo issues a public challenge to Steelers critics, especially Stephen A. Smith:

  • “I told Stephen A... watch Omar from this point forward, this year on. Watch the moves he make.” (32:11–Deebo)

• Joe: “Steelers won the division. With all those other teams going on—with this team returning back, with us getting better… They went into free agency, addressed what we needed, and in the draft got some pieces. Now just signing the guys on the team—A Rod’s coming back…” (33:27–Joe)

• Emphasis on communication, discipline, and player development:

  • Joe: “With the people we have on defense… if they know their assignment, alignment, technique, and are communicating… there’s no way that we just lose games.” (38:28–Joe)
  • Deebo: “Play disciplined football, don’t hurt yourself. Know your assignment, get to it and do it.” (37:55–Deebo)

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CLEVELAND BROWNS & THE BUSINESS OF FOOTBALL

(39:24–50:01)

Jared Verse’s Bold Statement

• Browns’ new pass rusher Jared Verse claims he will become the league’s best:

  • “I’m not here to fill Miles Garrett’s shoes. I’m here to bring my own. The best version of me is going to be the best defensive player in the league.” (40:10–Deebo quoting Verse)
  • Deebo and Joe react: Respect his confidence but question putting that pressure out there: “That’s a strong, bold statement... But I’m just saying that’s a huge, huge bold statement. Now go get you in Cleveland.” (41:00–Deebo)

• Discussion on NFL business and jersey number politics; how new arrivals get preferential treatment if critical to a franchise.

On NFL “Family” vs. Business

• Deebo: “Everybody talk about family… but it’s a business. And the business comes first.” (46:33)
• Joe: “With your coaches and GMs, y’all gonna be family until you are not good enough.” (47:23)
• Both stress honesty and transparency as the line between staying ‘family’ after roster moves.

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NOTABLE QUOTES

• “Wim is seven foot four, 230, bro. That’s victim weight, bruh.” – Deebo (05:47)
• “You can never have enough players, especially in the outside linebacker position. They’re all playmakers.” – Deebo (21:01)
• “Your best accountability is availability. You gotta be out there. And then when you’re out there, you’re performing at a very high level.” – Joe (24:48)
• “This man can do both. Whoop on your ass. Whoop on the D lineman ass, too, if he get the right one...” – Deebo (27:10)

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TIMESTAMPS TO KEY SEGMENTS

• [04:58]–[13:00]: NBA Finals Game 1 breakdown—Spurs vs Knicks, physical matchups, fan incidents, security talk
• [13:00]–[26:41]: Steelers’ Nick Herbig contract, roster construction, edge rusher depth/philosophy
• [26:41]–[32:11]: Darnell Washington extension, his physicality, leadership, and scheme fit
• [32:11]–[39:24]: Steelers' front office praise, contract philosophies, organizational direction
• [39:24]–[50:01]: Discussion of Browns’ Jared Verse, NFL business realities, and the “family” myth

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SUMMARY

This episode is classic Deebo and Joe: a freewheeling, deeply informed, often hilarious conversation at the intersection of NFL business, locker room realities, and on-field performance. They’re unfiltered, prideful, and come armed with stats and stories. Whether breaking down a game, dissecting contract logic, or ribbing each other about loyalty (and helmet props), listeners leave with a sense of how elite players view both the beauty and the brutality of professional sports.

Transcript

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[Joe Hayden]

I'm doing lovely, brother. Debo. I'm doing lovely. It was great basketball. It was what I told you it was going to be. I told.

[James Debo Harrison]

Hey bro, I ain't gonna lie to you. I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think we might be cooked. I think we might be cooked.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh snap. You going quick to react.

[James Debo Harrison]

Hey, I'm quick. Hey listen man, I told you man, listen, listen. When I seen Wembley, the one game where they put them bodies on him, that boy was exhausted. Yes, they got two seven footers over there, man. That's about anywhere from 250 to 265

[Joe Hayden]

man, they got some weight on him, man. They got some weight on them. Call Anthony T. Pounds in Mitchell, man.

[James Debo Harrison]

Cat got what, he about 255, 265. Somewhere around at least. Okay, and then you got the other boy, Robinson.

[Joe Hayden]

Richard Robinson.

[James Debo Harrison]

He about 250, 255. Like that, you know, maybe two, six. Hey, man, Wim is seven fold. 230, bro. That's victim weight, bruh.

[Joe Hayden]

He 215.

[James Debo Harrison]

Hell, they got the OG. He's six' seven. He way more than him. He 245.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, OG. OG got OG probably 255,000, 260.

[James Debo Harrison]

Like, man, we gotta get 40 on you, man.

[Joe Hayden]

So? So? So I'm scared. So.

[James Debo Harrison]

I don't want New York to win, man. They can't handle it, man. They gonna burn down the whole damn city. What?

[Joe Hayden]

You said the spurs were going to win in 5:1. You say five games.

[James Debo Harrison]

I said 4:1. So that means you might have been on drugs.

[Joe Hayden]

You might have been. So right now, are you already. Are you already switching up your body?

[James Debo Harrison]

Just got off. I might have just got off him. Let me see our game. Let me see how this game go tonight, man. Let me see how this go tonight, man. I just ain't like. And then, you know, like I said, they had them bodies on the man and he like 6 or 21. Like, man, come on, man. Then they let Brownson go out of control. The same thing I said he wasn't gonna be able to do. He did it.

[Joe Hayden]

C. Debo, I'm so glad that you watched and everything is happening that you thought was gonna happen. Because I was watching the game. I'm going in there expecting it to be a great game. And if the Knicks can still Game one, I'm thinking now, because it's going game, I'm thinking it's going seven games. I'm thinking it's going to be a series. The spurs, like you said. The alien castle. Chad Penny, my young bulls from San Antonio, are they ready? Went out there and the Knicks showed me Carl Anthony Towns. Shout out. Call Anthony Towns. Because he was the main one being able to. If he can, guard Wemby, put that body on him, you know what I'm saying? And then on the offensive side, don't just settle for threes.

[James Debo Harrison]

Attack.

[Joe Hayden]

He was going at Wimby, trying to blow doors, you know what I'm saying? Trying to get layups, being aggressive, 18 points, 12 boards, only shot two trebles. If call Anti Town's out there settling for threes. That's what the spurs want to say they life, bro. Bro, listen, Josh Hart, do you see him out there? He only had three points, 15 boards, six assist, four steals. He run all around doing what he got to do. Not shooting, you know what I'm saying? Kicking it to everybody. Need Knicks looked good. Yeah, dude, but that's what I'm saying. It's going to be a series because the spurs still. De' Aaron Fox is one of the

[James Debo Harrison]

main things this game tonight, man. Go ahead and chalk it up, man.

[Joe Hayden]

If they get. It's a must win tonight. It's a must win. A thousand percent.

[James Debo Harrison]

It's a must win, man. Y' all listen, bro, listen.

[Joe Hayden]

This is what the spurs gotta do. Let me give you some hints to what the spurs gotta do. You gotta. De' Aaron Fox has to ball out and or get him out of there a little bit earlier and get Dylan Harper in there. Dylan Harper is the number two pick. He's playing, he's a rookie this year, Deebo. He's playing like a vet, like a crafty five year vet. He's going to be one of the max players in the league in the future, bro. So Dylan Harper had 16 points. He only played three minutes. In the fourth. They had De' Aaron Fox in there. Love De' Aaron Fox. He's max, he's a baller. But he went 3 for 13 and had seven points and played 11 minutes in the fourth. If you're going to be doing that, we got to have Dylan Harper get him in there. He's getting a bucket. He is getting a bucket for you. So that's what's going to happen, man.

[James Debo Harrison]

They got to do that home court period, man. It's a must win. Y' all can't even keep the damn fans off the. Off the damn court, man. You had the fan running, man.

[Joe Hayden]

Look at this with the trash selfie.

[James Debo Harrison]

Trash selfie.

[Joe Hayden]

I don't promote this.

[Tab Ramos]

Attention, attention.

[Joe Hayden]

See, get him out of here. Hey, man, I saw a cowboy hat fan. He went and got beat up.

[James Debo Harrison]

Banned for life, B for life. I like it.

[Joe Hayden]

Come on, man.

[James Debo Harrison]

I like it. Banned for life from the whole NBA.

[Joe Hayden]

Come on, man, get out the way.

[James Debo Harrison]

Do it.

[Joe Hayden]

That's out of the way, man.

[James Debo Harrison]

Get them out the way. So that you know the next time somebody come and do this, they banning you for life. So if that band, that, that's good for you right there to get banned for life and you willing to go out there and do it, go ahead, go out there and do it. But I promise you this, the Next person, it's gonna be an added charge to that ban for life. Yeah, man. Something like criminal trespassing. When you run up out there now, for sure. When I slammed that Browns player, if I knew what I found out after that, that was criminal trespassing. And whatever I did to him, he ain't had no right. He wouldn't. I wouldn't. I would have threw that arm behind his back.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, you would. You would have get. You would have put it.

[James Debo Harrison]

You had a game network.

[Joe Hayden]

You would have had him scream up

[James Debo Harrison]

there, locked up like the police did. I'd have had my cleat on his forehead.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, Lord. Yep. See, there you go. I know for sure. But you're a wild man.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yeah, they off the.

[Joe Hayden]

Stay off the field, man. People. People got jobs to do. We out here working. People at work.

[James Debo Harrison]

Off the field, bro. Keep off the court, man. It's even a smaller area. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, sir.

[James Debo Harrison]

Like, it's not. It can't be that hard. Like, what are we talking about, man?

[Joe Hayden]

It's gonna be good.

[James Debo Harrison]

Get your security up, man, and see, you know, what should have happened is he should have got scared and nervous at the same time and started just Bop bop. Gave him a couple. Give him a quick two piece.

[Joe Hayden]

Who?

[James Debo Harrison]

I ain't know if he coming out there to take a picture. I don't know what he doing. He might have something in his hand. He might. Who knows? I feel you like anybody.

[Joe Hayden]

Bink Bing, quick two or set him down.

[James Debo Harrison]

Quick two piece. Set him back. Sitting in jail and you banned for life.

[Joe Hayden]

Checking the energy. Hold on. I ain't know what was going on. Bop Bop.

[James Debo Harrison]

You know what I'm saying? Lip swole, eye black. Okay, There you go. Take that with you. They need to have somebody. Like who? The one bodyguard that. He cold. He on soccer. What's his name?

[Joe Hayden]

A messy bodyguard.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yes, yes. Get him.

[Joe Hayden]

I like him Silent. Silent Assassin. Silent Assassin.

[James Debo Harrison]

He gonna come through there.

[Joe Hayden]

You don't see him. He see you. Well, I see him, but he see everything going on.

[James Debo Harrison]

Hey. Nope. He just sit. Listen. They too busy watching the game. Security up there watching the game. That's all they doing.

[Joe Hayden]

Enjoying the game.

[James Debo Harrison]

And you know I got courtside seats tonight.

[Joe Hayden]

What you mean, looking up at the screen?

[James Debo Harrison]

I'm working the game.

[Joe Hayden]

They looking at the screen. I'm like, bro, come on, man.

[James Debo Harrison]

That's all they doing, Joe. That's all they doing, Joe. How you get all the way across without somebody? Like, somebody's supposed to be out there. Them Boys got chasing him. They ain't had nothing.

[Joe Hayden]

Security.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Security.

[Joe Hayden]

Get the feeling like they got the best seats in the house.

[James Debo Harrison]

No question. They know they got the best seat in the house. Ain't nobody gonna do nothing stupid out here. They ain't gonna run out. Let me make like I'm looking around every now and then and then I'm going make sure I'm watching this game for the other five minutes of the hour.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James Debo Harrison]

You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Hayden]

They're routine.

[James Debo Harrison]

That's it. That it. Only time they really checking is at halftime.

[Joe Hayden]

Make sure or time out.

[James Debo Harrison]

That's it.

[Joe Hayden]

Time out. When they got to run about. When they get that course, they get to run out.

[James Debo Harrison]

That's it.

[Joe Hayden]

Doing a little bit of security. That's it.

[James Debo Harrison]

Look here, baby, look here. Let's go on over here to Pittsburgh, man.

[Joe Hayden]

Let's get it.

[James Debo Harrison]

Because we started cooking.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, man.

[James Debo Harrison]

We started bag off in the chat. We started. You that other team over there. No, not today. You the other team. I done seen where you came from, Joe. Huh? The Steelers. Joe. Put your boy your brown stuff at, Joe, where your brown stuff at?

[Joe Hayden]

I wore some basketball stuff today. I want some basketball stuff today. Because it's a game. It's gang going on.

[James Debo Harrison]

Big game, still helmet on your head.

[Joe Hayden]

Then big game tonight.

[James Debo Harrison]

Put still a helmet on your head. Show some loyalty. Show something. If we go talk, still put your helmet on your head, Joe. Here we go.

[Joe Hayden]

Because they dropping the bag off. Because they dropping the bag off today.

[James Debo Harrison]

Here we go, man, here we go. Linebacker Nick Herbert to a five year contract. Dude, hey got five year, 145. Okay?

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, sir.

[James Debo Harrison]

I think it's like something I forgot what it's guaranteed, but Joe, I think

[Joe Hayden]

about 40 something guaranteed.

[James Debo Harrison]

41, 45, 42, 42, 40 something guaranteed. Something like that.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, sir. Yes.

[James Debo Harrison]

Something like that, guaranteed.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[James Debo Harrison]

Do you like this move? For a person that has not had a full year starting under their belt,

[Joe Hayden]

I love this move.

[James Debo Harrison]

God damn it, Joe. Here you go with that love shit.

[Joe Hayden]

I like it a lot. Oko. You can't tell me how to feel. I love this move. And this is what happened.

[James Debo Harrison]

You willing to kill somebody over.

[Joe Hayden]

All right. No, you're right, you're right, you're right. I like this move a lot. I like this move a lot.

[James Debo Harrison]

Thank you.

[Joe Hayden]

I think this.

[James Debo Harrison]

You gotta be willing to go to jail for something.

[Joe Hayden]

You're right.

[James Debo Harrison]

If you like it, you love it.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm not going to jail for her beginning the hunt, but I am happy for her be getting his hunted. And that's 1000% because just the way that when you draft good players in the fourth round, this is what you would expect. And his numbers and his stats. This is what I'm saying. His numbers and his stats to me, in his first three seasons, well, I would say his last two years, similar to Jared Verse, same amount. Like say Jared versus him. Solo tackles, 34 total tackles, 71 for verse, 52 for herbic, 12 sacks for verse, 13 sacks for herb in his last two seasons. You know what I'm saying? Five force fumbles for verse, seven force fumbles for Herb. So you're getting. And he went to two Pro Bowls. And these last two years, Herbic didn't get any of those stats. He's had 800 snaps. Herbic's had 415 snaps. It's not. You can't fault Herbic because he has TJ Watt in front of him and Alex Highsmith, who both of them signed the extensions, which they deserved. So he got drafted in his position fourth round. He's out there balling, getting the snaps that he's getting and producing at a very high level. So when his agent was going out

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[Joe Hayden]

Harmony they're saying highest paid D linemen are making the edge, rushers are making $50 million a year.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yes.

[Joe Hayden]

We got TJ Watt making 41, we got Miles making 40 beers plays, making Michael Parsons making $46 million a year. So when we looking at the number, the average per year highsmith at that same time when the Steelers, they're signing their players and it looks like crazy amounts of money, but when we're looking at your, your, your equals or who you're playing against, those guys is 16th highest out of rushers. And him with what he's doing with his production, if he were able to, he can be a starter, we can be able to get a first round pick for Herbic. So at the time, like looking at the contract, my man just got three years, 150 million from Houston. Do you know what I'm saying? So when you're looking at 50 million, that's, that's $50 million a year there right now we got him under contract for five years. You add on this additional year he was going to make 3, 3.4 million, $4 million. So it's, we got Herbie five years under contract for $104 million, which averages around 20.8 years, that we have him under our rights for the next five years. So if he ends up like we expect him to play over this contract, dudes are making $50 million. It's going to go nowhere but up. I'd rather sign him now, have him on lock on the team. And now we have Highsmith with two more years left on his contract at $15 million per year. He got two for 30, and then we're going to see how that goes. T.J. watt has two more years of guaranteed money on his deal. 32 years, 32 million each year. Let's see how T.J. watt, we love, come out there and ball out, you know what I'm saying? So having Herbic here, you know what I'm saying, for the foreseeable future, being able to know that you're not just going to not have Highsmith. We don't know what's going to happen in the future, but next year or two, I would like to have Watt balling out, seeing what he could do. Highsmith, he's under contract, he's balling out, see what he can do. And now we have Herbic on the team. He's been balling for these three years, getting his reps and what he can do. And now we have a three man rotation where we got three ballers and he's going to get his reps up. Highsmith's going to be able to get a little bit more rest. Watts going to still be getting his rest. So it's not like you're going to feel like. No, no. We got three starters in that rotation at linebacker, outside linebacker is going to be nice. Let's max these dudes out. Let's ball out. Let's continue to see what's going on for this year because we have them under contract. We don't have to move anything. We're signing our players. We don't have to trade dudes off. Let's.

[James Debo Harrison]

Right, that's the big thing. Like, I ain't gonna lie.

[Joe Hayden]

I didn't think, no, I'm not.

[James Debo Harrison]

I didn't think we would get this, this, this, this, this good a deal in, in the whole process of it, to be honest. You're looking at, what is it, just under $21 million a year. Oh, that's a lot. Because he hasn't started. No, that's not a lot. When you look at the league right now, especially right now, Hell, average to get you 15 to what, 2112. No, 12 to 15, something like that. And then you're talking about where he's at as far as what his numbers is as a starter. Dude, he's somewhere above in his 14, 16 starts. He's somewhere above damn near what it should be, closer to 25, 27. So this right here is a great, great move, Great deal. Omar Khan is cooking. Mike McCarthy is cooking. And as he said in his quote, he said, he said you can never have enough players, especially in the outside linebacker position. They're all playmakers. He said, I'm thrilled to death. We have them all. They are keeping them all. Now you have your brand new D coordinator, Patrick Graham, and he has nothing to handicap him. He has everybody there. It's all hands on deck. Now we get to see what it's supposed to look like. Now we get to see what the Pittsburgh Steelers defense, you know, is supposed to look like. What we're accustomed to seeing, bro. Like sitting on top of the NFL, being the most feared defense in the NFL.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay, here we go.

[James Debo Harrison]

Where you see those three stars on your schedule and your head coach say, hey.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay, hey, hey.

[James Debo Harrison]

2:10 straps for this game.

[Joe Hayden]

You know, it's gonna be the most

[James Debo Harrison]

physical, disciplined defense that you go face all year. Okay? And no matter what the outcome is, win, lose or draw, when you done with this game, you go feel that. You play the Pittsburgh Steelers?

[Joe Hayden]

Yep.

[James Debo Harrison]

So, hey, get the cold tubs. Get the cold tubs. Get ready to heal all the knots and bruises and lumps and bruises that we go put on your ass after this game is done.

[Joe Hayden]

Period. Nope. I. I love it. I love it. I like it a lot.

[James Debo Harrison]

No question. I. Hey, hey. I like it a whole lot. And here's the crazy thing too. So you're giving him this deal and like you said, you're talking about a five year deal.

[Joe Hayden]

We got this dude for he until the 2030 season.

[James Debo Harrison]

I am seeing him going above and beyond what this contract has actually paid him because, I mean, I hate to say it, in two years, we lose. Tj, tj, tj. It's not going to work. Like you said, the guaranteed money is going then. So now you're looking at a $46 million hit for a last year. I think he'll be closer to 34, 35 then. So letting him go, you're talking about a savings of about $36 million when your salary to him would be 46 million. And then you Have Sawyer, right, That's behind him. So he may be the next thing up. And even if he's not, possibly after this year, you have Highsmith that you can extend maybe two or three years, you know, after this year. And he's. I think he'll be coming up on 30, though. But he's a young 30. He's like a 30 like I was. He's only six or seven years in. He's seven years in at that time. He'll be seven years. He's six years. Six years now. Yeah. He'll be seven years in by that time. So you're talking about having then Herbic, Highsmith and then Sawyer. If everything pans out to where we

[Joe Hayden]

just keep rolling, I want to see. I'm excited because Highsmith, like you say, he's under contract. It's all now, you gotta play, you gotta ball. T.J. watt knows what it is with his contract. He has two more years on it. It's just the consistency of playing out high level. I know injuries come and all that stuff happens, but that's why Nick Herbic, we signed you. You're young, you know what I'm saying? That's just what how the league is. T.J. white and Highsmith are getting on the older years. So it's a performance base. It's literally the what have you done for me lately? The guaranteed is out of the contract. So it's like perform high. You're getting paid around solid money. Not the highest, but it is because you are a creme de la creme player and we need you to perform at that rate. So I'm loving that we can go into this season having him under contract. Everybody under contract now. It's what does the tape look like? Highsmith, are we balling? Are we staying healthy? I'm praying for the best for both. TJY balling, are we staying healthy? Because now it's just your best available. Your best accountability is availability. You gotta be out there. And then when you're out there, you're performing at a very high level. So I know what you're saying with the young dude. Sawyer too, we got him in the cut. So figuring out he's gonna get his little reps and that he's gonna be in the Herbic situation, where you gonna see your time when you out there, ball out when you're out there. So you're looking like, okay, you. You're deserving more reps. You know what I'm saying? It's Highsmith, not okay. Somebody hurt now you're in there, ball out when you're out there. So I'm liking the position of having just talent at that position, older talent and signing younger talent for the group.

[James Debo Harrison]

Well, we got to get younger. We're, we're, we're.

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, for sure. And that's where, that's where these contracts are coming in.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yeah. So when you, when you go and you. It's easy. Like I said, you look at it, we cooking. Hey. And we kept cooking. You know how we kept cooking?

[Joe Hayden]

Brought it over to the ended Mount

[James Debo Harrison]

Darnell Washington to a nice four year, 42 million dollar extension.

[Joe Hayden]

Great to see.

[James Debo Harrison]

Hey, hey, Great to see, brother. Look here. 21 million in guarantees after he did some little career high stuff. But that's just. That'll be the low. Career high low. Because I'm. I'm expecting him to go over that again.

[Joe Hayden]

Again.

[James Debo Harrison]

You talking about 4 year 42. They thinking it's too much. No, it's not, dude.

[Joe Hayden]

No.

[James Debo Harrison]

What are y' all talking about? Y' all don't understand the concept. What is it?

[Joe Hayden]

Eight?

[James Debo Harrison]

Almost eight to eleven. They say for, for a good, solid starter. This man can do both. He could do well. He catch the ball. Whoop on your ass. Whoop on the D lineman ass too, if he get the right one.

[Joe Hayden]

He.

[James Debo Harrison]

He putting. Did you see where he pulled block on the boy? Come across and just laid him down. Boy. He hit the boy.

[Joe Hayden]

Boy.

[James Debo Harrison]

He tried to get up, but he couldn't.

[Joe Hayden]

That's.

[James Debo Harrison]

That's £300, bro. That's £300.

[Joe Hayden]

Come on.

[James Debo Harrison]

Hey, Joe, what you gonna do if you gotta tackle that, bro? What you gonna do is you gotta tackle that, Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm taking his legs out. He's gonna have to.

[James Debo Harrison]

He gonna jump.

[Joe Hayden]

He gonna. Somebody better be coming and better. Somebody better be. We better be coming together. We better rally the troops. I better not be the only one over there. If it's just me, there's trouble because I'm going to go for them legs. I'm shooting them. I'm trying to wrap them up. If he jumps over me, I done got jumped over. Because what I'm not about to do is run out there and get. And get what we. And get speed bumped. I'm not getting speed bumped by big bro. Because it's one thing. It's called physics. It's called gravity. It's called. I'm bringing 185 as fast as I can and you're leaning forward. I. I don't know. It's just, just science. You know what I'm saying? Physics, it just don't work that way. So I gotta go for your legs so your upper body goes down.

[James Debo Harrison]

Dude, he out there in a grown man's game, bro. And he looking like the. The kid on the peewee team that everybody like, oh, that's what I'm saying. 17, 16 years old, playing with the 10 year old. That's what you look like out there, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

Where's his birth certificate?

[James Debo Harrison]

That's what they saying.

[Joe Hayden]

No, there ain't no way.

[James Debo Harrison]

How old.

[Joe Hayden]

Show me how old is he?

[James Debo Harrison]

No, that, that mother. He's 16.

[Joe Hayden]

16. He drove here. That's what I'm saying. And even if he drove here, he drove here with his mom sitting.

[James Debo Harrison]

He.

[Joe Hayden]

He had a learners, that's for sure. That little.

[James Debo Harrison]

That 15, I could have swore I seen that. Get out from under that wheel. What y' all talking about?

[Joe Hayden]

I mean, y' all are lying. Jumped out the side, walked around. No child locked for this. He drove the car.

[James Debo Harrison]

No question about it. So now we got what we got. We got fry move. Yes, through 28, Washington through 30. And when you look at it, hell, we only go have a rod when we go at a rod. Oh, that's something else too, though. That man. A rod. He gave some high praise to Washington, man. He said, he said. He. He said, I'm just so proud of him. He said he has approached the. Oh, no.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James Debo Harrison]

That is basically, he said, the growth and since he's seen him in training camp, that he's continued to get his body in shape, which is one thing, his mind, another thing. And that he's a guy that he didn't have to worry about the details of where, you know, where he's going to be because he's very detail orientated. That came back. That super smart player. That was something that he said too. But that came back to when me and you were sitting there in the stadium watching the game and we're like, yo, it don't look like people know what the hell is going on. Why is he out here having to tell this and that? And then we sat down with somebody and they like, hey, is this going on? Well, how is that possible? Shouldn't they be taught that? Nope, nobody's teaching them. So now he looks like he's going crazy yelling and screaming at cats when it's like, yo, they should know it, but they don't because they having a hard time of reading the defense because they're not taught to actually read the defense.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah. So I think that's exactly right. I think just as long as them dudes, like you said, get into the playbook, they have the physical ability. That's not a question. It's just we need to have everybody out there knowing what they're doing, knowing what their assignments is and performing at a high level consistently. And with Pat by move there with his. I know him and a rod. They. He. Oh, every time.

[James Debo Harrison]

Well, that's why you bring a rod back, man. Continue the growth and knowledge and understanding. And now you just change the whole staff. So now it's coming from the top down. Yo. You need to know and understand and learn what you're looking at as a, as a receiver. You need to know what kind of defense you're looking at. Because if you go out there and all of a sudden you think you have a. You. You're running man beater routes and they're in zone. You got to know, oh, hold up. I got to sit down. I can't keep crossing into zones. I'm gonna get myself put to sleep. Feet.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James Debo Harrison]

I'm saying, like, it's things like that when you're, when you're in, you know, you're in something that's for zone and they playing, man, where you go have to adjust that route to, to go to, you know, get yourself open or however that may be. And that's. That's a lot of things or some things that especially younger guys don't. Don't know or have the knowledge of coming in. And it starts all the way in, you know, high school, college, where they're not being taught. It's just, yo, go out there do this route shaking, you know, and we go hit you. You get to the pro. Everybody is you. So they can keep up with that. Now you got schemes. Now you got coaching.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James Debo Harrison]

Knowledge of what's going on. And now my scheme can be outplayed by your players, even though their talent may be better. Because I coach a scheme that's fully locked in, that every gap is filled in, that all the plugs and you know where the weakness is so that you keep play to your strengths and keep away from the weaknesses.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James Debo Harrison]

Like that's both sides of the ball. Like, dude, like, you got this. I can't wait till we get. I can't wait till we get little peasy on the contract because I know that that one got to be coming. Look here, I've been trying to tell people, all y', all people that have been talking about Omar. Okay, Y' all been talking about Omar. Omar Khan ain't did nothing since he got there or ain't did. Not since he get. Shut up. Shut up. I told you. I told Stephen A. Stephen A. Hey, what I say to you? I said, I know you think Omar ain't doing. I said, watch Omar from this point forward, this year on. I said, watch the moves he make. And I said from there, you go ahead and make your judgment. Stephen A. I know you're still a fan. Tell me what you think now from this point forward, what you think he done did, how you think he done did. Let me know. Let me know judging from this point forward, because now I know he's doing what he's been put there to do. His title is actually what he's doing. It's not just something he's holding. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Hayden]

He's being.

[James Debo Harrison]

He's able to do his job now

[Joe Hayden]

with this coming in. Man, signing these free agents that when you look at the Steelers going into from last season, they won the division. I don't care how. Nobody wants to say how they did it, whatever. Steelers won the division no matter what. The Steelers won the division. With all those other teams going on with this team returning back with us getting better, I feel like I don't think anyone can say the Steelers didn't get better. I think they went in free agency, went and addressed what we needed on the offensive side of the ball and at corner, you know what I'm saying? And then in the draft went and got some pieces. Now just signing the guys that are on the team. A Rod's coming back. I think if everybody performs at a very, very. At the. At the level that they can. We got tj. The defense is communicating. Jalen Ramsey is still like when you say the names and just names. Steelers got a squad, yes. Mob full of players that are ballers at their position, that have been proven ballers and younger guys that are just coming into their own. So if everyone goes out there, we communicate. We don't. We play just solid football. I don't see how we just continue. There's no way that we just lose games. So if dudes do what they got to do and perform at a very.

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[Tab Ramos]

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[James Debo Harrison]

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[Joe Hayden]

It could get tricky. So that's why I love liking watching the Steelers right now.

[James Debo Harrison]

Replay discipline Football don't hurt yourself.

[Joe Hayden]

Don't hurt yourself.

[James Debo Harrison]

Know your assignment.

[Joe Hayden]

Don't hurt yourself.

[James Debo Harrison]

Get to it and do it. Teach them the right technique so that they can go out there and accomplish and do their job. Because there's no way in hell they would be taught in the right things that we were looking at being done by different members of on a consistent basis. And then sitting down and obviously hearing what we heard as we were sitting there of what was being taught wasn't crazy or not taught.

[Joe Hayden]

With the people that we have on defense, with that defense, with those players that are out there, if they know their assignment, alignment and technique and are communicating and just out there every time, there's no mas, there's no bust. I'm not saying doing the craziest stuff. People are going to make plays on it. But if nobody's running scot free down the field and you have to drive it down on that defense, I would love to see it. So that's where we're just looking at it like no, just don't have those plays. And let's see how good and how highly ranked this defense could be. Offense, run the ball, let's see what's going on and we can get on the sticks, you know what I'm saying? Not a rod. Okay? He's not fast. A lot of quarterbacks aren't fast but they know where they need to go with the ball. They're able to, you know what I'm saying? Hand it off, you know what I'm saying? That's where you can run the actions. Run game, run game. It's setting up all that. Tom Brady was never fast, you know what I'm saying? Like Aaron Rodgers, never been the fastest. He was able to move but adapt.

[James Debo Harrison]

No question, no question. I guess we gotta go over here to the Browns, you know, Brown's new pass Russia, Jared Verse made it Clear that he's not seeking to replace Miles Garrett. First said, it caught me by surprise. I love the whole vibe of la Los Angeles Rams. You know, it was a little upsetting. I was upset for, you know, a good little bit of time. But he said, I'm here now to. He said, I'm not here to fill Miles Garrett's shoes. I'm here to bring my own. I'm here to work and I'm here to be the best version of me. Then he said this. And the best version of me is going to be. Is going to be. Is going to be.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James Debo Harrison]

Is going to be. Uh huh. The best defensive player in the league.

[Joe Hayden]

Shooting for the. My man. Shooting for the stars.

[James Debo Harrison]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He said, he said, he didn't say. I hope he said it is going to be the best version of me. Is going to be the best defensive player in the league.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what he said.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yes.

[Joe Hayden]

He went for his rookie season, he was defensive player, rookie, rookie, defensive player of the year. Second season, went to the Pro bowl, two straight Pro Bowls. And he feels like he's getting better. I mean, I'm not here to knock him.

[James Debo Harrison]

I ain't knocking it either. But I'm just saying that's a strong, bold statement. But that's a huge, huge bold statement. Now go get you in Cleveland.

[Joe Hayden]

Go get it. Miles Garrett did it in Cleveland. You know, you know what I'm saying? No, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not mad at it. I'm not, I ain't mad at it either.

[James Debo Harrison]

I'm just saying.

[Joe Hayden]

You're just saying that's a lot, that's a lot to say.

[James Debo Harrison]

You don't put a lot of pressure on yourself now. You know, I don't know.

[Joe Hayden]

I, I feel, I respect his honesty and everything that he said in the answer

[James Debo Harrison]

I love is. I love his, I love his confidence. No, I like, I like that. I, I don't, I like, I like, I don't know, I don't know how much. I don't know. I don't know if I like it a lot. I, you know, I like it. I, I just don't, you know, putting words like that out there, that's, you know, people come back to that, you

[Joe Hayden]

know, man, he go hard. So we gonna look.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yeah, that's like lockers track record. That's locker room. Like they go use this everywhere. Hey, we playing against the best defensive player in the league right now.

[Joe Hayden]

The main going to be the best

[James Debo Harrison]

defensive player in the league right now.

[Joe Hayden]

He wants to be, he wants everybody,

[James Debo Harrison]

every, everybody want to be. But don't nobody say the best version of me is going to be. Is going to be the best defensive player in the league.

[Joe Hayden]

The f. That's.

[James Debo Harrison]

I mean, hey, listen, man, I'm just telling you, like when I, when I replaced Peasy.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James Debo Harrison]

Peasy left and went to Miami. They asked me the question. I'm like, yo, you know, I'm not here to, I'm not here to, you know, do what peace do. I'm here to do it.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what he said.

[James Debo Harrison]

I didn't say I'm here to be the best version of me. And that is, that is.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James Debo Harrison]

Defense player in the league. Yeah, I mean I turned out to be that. That.

[Joe Hayden]

But see, I wasn't running out there. I would have been like it out,

[James Debo Harrison]

you know, I would have been like,

[Joe Hayden]

I'd have been like, I'd have been more like. I'd have been probably like you.

[James Debo Harrison]

I've been more humble.

[Joe Hayden]

I should speak louder than what.

[James Debo Harrison]

I'm just trying to do what I can, man, to be me, you know what I'm saying? Be the best, best version of me.

[Joe Hayden]

And you know, I'm gonna tell you what's the wild part though. My man went in there and went and got that number eight. I'm trying to figure out, hey, you got that? Hey, got that. So you know, he said, I ain't

[James Debo Harrison]

worried about that, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

The whole time.

[James Debo Harrison]

I'm gonna wear this jersey out here.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm gonna wear this age. They gonna have to go figure it out. He's two, he's, he's older. That's a younger player. And you know how sometimes, I mean, he's already hot. I'm coming in. I'm. You drafted a year after me. Last year was your rookie year. You the third string quarterback.

[James Debo Harrison]

You giving that up?

[Joe Hayden]

You giving that up? I've been to the Pro bowl and then I'm on my rookie contract too. Even though I went first round, I'm coming to here this year. I'm making 2.1. That's a million at the time. You put. No, like they gonna just give me that because just seniority wise I would see if it was me though, I would have came in maybe and said something like, you know, no joke.

[James Debo Harrison]

Hold up. Listen, Joe, they. He done came from la.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah. No, he's hot, he's hot, he's hot. I need that.

[James Debo Harrison]

Anybody a dime for my number?

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, no, no, no. He wasn't getting no Money out. He was getting money out.

[James Debo Harrison]

What made you think, Dylan, that you was gonna get a penny? You're out of your mind.

[Joe Hayden]

That's. I. I understand what you're saying. And even if he was coming there, I would expect. I wouldn't hope that.

[James Debo Harrison]

Dylan Williams. Did you hear what your GM said?

[Joe Hayden]

What? He said the.

[James Debo Harrison]

The. The trade wasn't done without Verse. That means your aim is his.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, yeah.

[James Debo Harrison]

Get the hell out the way, boy. Go. Go pillow. Talk to your girl or something.

[Joe Hayden]

Stop it.

[James Debo Harrison]

Tell them how you wanted to have an 8, but they. They said you couldn't have.

[Joe Hayden]

Whatever.

[James Debo Harrison]

I don't know, whatever excuse you want to make, man.

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, no. For sure, he gotta get. He gonna. The end of the day, somebody was gonna have to make sure the 8 was gonna be versus regardless, saying he didn't.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yes, they already told him that. Soon. He was like, he. They ain't even. Hey. He was like, yo, I want to play eight. He was like, yeah, it's cool when you get here. Don't worry about it.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, let me. Let me get that.

[James Debo Harrison]

They just ain't no who didn't. They shouldn't even put the number in this locker that day, man. He knew as soon as soon as they made that trade, they should have

[Joe Hayden]

been like, hey, that's what I'm saying is looking at it like. That's. That's a whole.

[James Debo Harrison]

Here's what's available.

[Joe Hayden]

That's a. That's an upper management move versus, like, look, y' all know when I'm coming in there, it's eight. The equipment manager need to pull down, already know and be like, yo, Dylan, you know what I'm saying? Versus coming in, he's gonna have that eight, which. These are the jumps available right here. You know what I'm saying? 18. You know what I'm saying? Something similar. What other number do you like? That's. These are what we have. Cause. Yeah, that's it. That you just move. Because versus that they needed almost, you know what I'm saying?

[James Debo Harrison]

Like, because when I said I'm upset, y' all don't. I liked it out here. It was vibing. You know what I'm saying? He already been Ohio. The. The. The boy from Dayton, Ohio, he know what's up there. It ain't nothing. He know how good it is in la, except for them taxes. Now, I'm telling you that right now.

[Joe Hayden]

See, it's during the season, but he

[James Debo Harrison]

want to save some cash, though. Save some cash, baby. I'm trying to tell you that Got

[Joe Hayden]

a job versus something in your pocket, man.

[James Debo Harrison]

Get that defensive player of the year, like you say, you go get, baby, you. And now you go ahead and get that money. Money. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James Debo Harrison]

I'm saying. And you go save on the taxes.

[Joe Hayden]

Come on, man.

[James Debo Harrison]

I'm just trying to tell you.

[Joe Hayden]

But, hey, listen, he trying to get that bad.

[James Debo Harrison]

This word. This word. This is where everybody got to realize, man, everybody talk about family. Oh, it's family. We family. We family. Understand? We family. I understand that. But you got to understand something. It's a business. And the business come first. Okay?

[Joe Hayden]

And what you got to do is

[James Debo Harrison]

you gotta be able to move away from the family side of that and realize like, yo, this is the business of it. Like, if I'm having you as family, work for me, and you ain't doing what's necessary for your job, or I feel like I could get somebody else to do something better. Yes. I don't care that we're family. We're gonna still stay family. Yeah, but your ass ain't gonna be working for me. I'm gonna get somebody else in here that's gonna do your job better.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James Debo Harrison]

And that's the goal.

[Joe Hayden]

The family comes when it's more kind of with your teammates because they gonna be there with you regardless. Y' all are kind of fighting through it. These are your boys. Y' all are going through the same stuff. You have to perform. So with your coaches and all the GMs, y' all gonna be family until you are not good enough. You know what I'm saying? Until you're not performing, like so.

[James Debo Harrison]

Now, I will say this.

[Joe Hayden]

What?

[James Debo Harrison]

You can still be real life family.

[Joe Hayden]

For sure, for sure, for sure, for sure. It's real love.

[James Debo Harrison]

Honest. It's easy to be honest. Sorry. It's easy to still be family as long as they're honesty. I may not appreciate or. Or agree with what you're telling me, but if that's your truth on what you believe my skills are now, I

[Joe Hayden]

can deal with that. Agree to disagree.

[James Debo Harrison]

Right. Don't feed me some and then come with something else. Hey, I. I still got plenty of people in the Steelers organization that I am cool with. I consider family and all that, but it's. I know and understand the business of that, and I. In that process.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes. And I think that's why, too, when before the trade happened with Jared Verse, you heard all of the. Sean. Sean McVay and all of them. They made sure they got in touch with them and let him know what it was. Because the big thing is with the league, you don't want to. Like when I say Andrew Berry, I can't believe him because he gonna lie. They have to not tell you anything.

[James Debo Harrison]

No question.

[Joe Hayden]

Nothing goes through. Stuff falls through all the time to where. Like, you don't wanna have the ifs and whens and the answers, but when it happens, you know what I'm saying? They've been working on stuff, but that's their job. They're gonna keep that stuff in the background so they can't really let you know what's gonna happen until the last minute. And then trying to make sure the all right, this is really about to happen. I'm going to get in touch with verse. Let him know because that's a big swing. It's not right. It didn't want to have him in.

[James Debo Harrison]

But the public. Y' all can kick rocks.

[Joe Hayden]

I rock with you. You're my man's verse. But we going to be able to get Miles Garrett here for the organization. I think he's going to put us over the top. Nothing bad to do. If you've been a great player like in the swap, we don't want to give you off. This is going to hurt. So. But for the organization, for us moving forward, I think Myles Garrett is going to put us over the top. He had 23 sacks last year. He's the defensive player of the year. You are amazing. Pro Bowler, seven and a half sacks. You're going to be amazing. But right now, tomorrow, Miles Garrett on this team is going to make us better. And I think we can win the super bowl. Zero. I love you the same, you know what I'm saying? But that has nothing to do with Miles Garrett and the business of the Rams that I'm trying to produce a championship right here.

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