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DJ Wells
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Mook
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DJ Wells
It's nationwide.
T
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DJ Wells
Nah, this is crazy.
Mook
You are the father.
T
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DJ Wells
But they said it was nationwide.
T
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DJ Wells
You just matter that I'm realer than you. Okay. My chick better than your chick.
T
Smooth highlights instructor day. Shout out to Josh Smith. Hey, Freaky Smooth content still.
DJ Wells
Can you?
T
Of course. The face going down, the highlight.
DJ Wells
Damn. Off your back. Damn.
Mook
Jesus Christ.
T
I knew that T. Ross.
DJ Wells
Was he looking down?
T
No, he ain't jumping, bro.
Bishop
He jumping high as he.
T
Man, that's crazy, Austin. Ask a fool.
Mook
I knew Josh used to get up, but that one with his whole OR was over to just the real. I've never seen that one.
T
Hey, all the yellow disgusting.
DJ Wells
I kind of bro.
T
Oh. Oh, wow. Rebosh. Oh, that's crazy.
Mook
You're never to make an all star game is crazy.
DJ Wells
Punch. And I'm d like that motherfucker better let me shoot a three.
Mook
Straight up.
T
Man. He would kill in today's NBA, especially with all the spacing with three shooters.
Bishop
And stuff like that, bro.
DJ Wells
Kill.
T
And the funny part is, was it him and Corey Brew? The reason why they came back. That rocket stuff, that's crazy, man. Shout out to Jelly Smooth, man. What game, what player in today's NBA would y' all compare him to or comparable? Like.
Mook
I don't know who do that.
T
With that type of athleticism.
Mook
I think they dunking like Zion Williamson.
DJ Wells
Facts. He like.
Bishop
Supreme athlete.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Mook
Literally just showed all dunks.
Bishop
So I don't know who just dunking.
T
The ball like that. Yeah. He got robbed. Definitely should have been an all star.
Bishop
I don't know.
DJ Wells
I don't know. Because he was super good defensively. Guard one through four, one through five.
Mook
Yeah.
DJ Wells
Good athlete.
Mook
A powerful jumping like that.
DJ Wells
I don't know. Too many people play like him.
T
I don't want to be lazy and say Aaron Gordon because they play a little bit differently. But probably athleticism to an extent.
DJ Wells
But that's probably who he play like. Actually they both a shooter three. Not their specialty. Yeah. I think he would be. I think he. He wanted to shoot threes. It wasn't that he couldn't shoot, but at that time it was frowned upon to shoot that many threes.
Mook
Yeah.
DJ Wells
You know what I mean? Yeah.
T
The Detroit cry used to. Yo. No, he would shoot them threes and he didn't give a damn. He shoot them anyway. They had one of the craziest lineups, bro. Him, Andre Drummond and Greg Monroe is a crazy three through five.
DJ Wells
They used to do it in Atlanta. Like. No. When he pull up. Yeah.
Bishop
Like, bro, leave me alone.
DJ Wells
But he was ahead of his time because that's what was needed in the game. Like the game was not saying he was a headlight, but that's the way the game was going. Big shooting, 30s.
Mook
That's why he'd have been smooth tonight if he really had a burner.
DJ Wells
For real.
Mook
Yeah, he's been cool today. He definitely 200 million dollar player.
T
Yeah. What? The floor spikes and it's crazy.
DJ Wells
It is.
T
Give Joshua's open line against your defender. 101.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
T
He's getting punched on especially.
DJ Wells
No, not even that. Like if you just put him in a pick and roll. He set the screen and roll. He's such a good passer. He can make second play like secondary plays. But he can finish at the rim with the best of them.
T
Most definitely, man. Shout out to 520 alumni, man. Jay Smooth for sure. All right, man. D Fox got paid yesterday. 4 year 229. It's a lot of mixed feelings I hear in these streets about this deal, man. How y' all feel about it?
DJ Wells
Who got a mixed feeling?
T
A lot of people are feeling like. You know what I'm saying? Spurs kind of overpaid. Some people feel like, what are spurs doing paying him this much money? Are they gonna be able to move on from him in two years? If to let their Young talent shine. But they gave up a lot of resources to get him too.
Mook
Who the else are they gonna play?
Bishop
What I'm about to say, is he not like one of them ones?
DJ Wells
Like, bro, he's.
T
I agree.
DJ Wells
He's 26 and like 7 or something like that.
Bishop
He deserved that.
Mook
The 17 getting numbers. Like, what we doing?
DJ Wells
He only like 25. 26. What he like 26 or something? Young, bro.
T
I was confused by that when I seen it. I mean, obviously, Grant, where you looking from? The sources from. But I was confused with so much hating the deal. I'm like, Dean park is a really good point guard. That's. I mean, it is a number, but it's a number. For sure. He deserve it.
Bishop
He's elite.
Mook
I mean, forget the number. Who else are they gonna give some big bread to over there? Who else is deserving more than him? Forget how much the money is like. Yeah, the second person over here.
DJ Wells
I am. Yeah. I'm 26 and 7. Yeah, that's proven. Yeah.
Mook
I don't understand that. That's crazy.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bishop
Because they got Dylan Harper and.
DJ Wells
Yeah, yeah. Castle.
Bishop
Castle.
T
Yeah.
Mook
But yeah, what about him?
Bishop
We don't know what Dylan Harbor. He hasn't played yet, bro. I know what Darren Fox gonna give me, bro.
Mook
It's a pecking order, though.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bishop
You know, that's what they were just saying on the Internet.
DJ Wells
But he gonna. By the time Dylan Harper up in his deal. Yeah. He gonna be Deanna Fox if he's a player that they want him to be. Dylan Harper. Fox would be on like one of his last years and it'd be a movable contract by the end. Yeah. 31. He'll still be a good player.
Bishop
Yeah. Briar is 26, bro. Leave me alone. Like, pay me, bro. What are we talking about?
Mook
His name stands some, though.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bishop
He is cold. I don't get it.
T
He'll be talking crazy. My boy's out the way. All you do is get out there and kill.
DJ Wells
Well, that's all he do. I'm. I'm interested to see how they play though. I wonder what lineup do they start? Do they start? Dear Fox, Stefan Castle got to Dylan Harper. Like, who did he start? You gotta start, Castle, because you still gotta start.
T
Yeah, they'll get paid a lot of money.
DJ Wells
He still got for sale, Soul Chan, whatever his name is.
Bishop
They should have got rid of him.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
T
Is that what soccer? Well, yeah, I think they possibly might. They gonna have to at some point.
DJ Wells
But, you know, can you start Luke.
Bishop
Cornette as the five Gotta play a lot.
T
Kelly Olenek. Look at his roster leagues.
DJ Wells
I like their team. But do you start? Do Harrison Barnes start?
T
Most definitely.
DJ Wells
So then who you don't start.
T
Who?
DJ Wells
Castle still coming the bench.
Bishop
I don't like that. He. It kind of look like he might though.
T
So you starting. Obviously we know the a's at the 1, who's at the 2.
DJ Wells
Because probably gonna start cuz CP started last year. So who you gonna start now?
T
So it's either between Vail and Castle. Who you gonna start?
DJ Wells
V gonna start.
Bishop
He getting that chicken.
DJ Wells
So getting Castle gonna be at the three.
Bishop
So Harrison on the off the pond.
T
HB ain't never came off the pond.
DJ Wells
Now they gonna have. So they're gonna play a buddy at the four. The big man. Wendy and Luke Cornett. The five to five. Yeah.
Bishop
I don't see Harrison coming.
DJ Wells
I doubt it. I thought. I think they play wouldn't be at the 5 and Harrison at the 4. Or does that mean Sochan. Whatever boy name is, he got started at the.
T
That's the question. With that lineup. HB don't come off the bench.
DJ Wells
So if he.
T
I mean if he does, cool. I mean but you got a lot of people you gotta figure out in that wing position.
Mook
There are some bars can come off the mess though.
T
I know this is.
DJ Wells
But you start Kelton Johnson. Harrison Bond Johnson be hooping too. And you still got Killer Johnson not starting.
T
Okay then they got a hell of a bench then. Because somebody gotta.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Mook
Cause Kelly. You still got Kelly Olanic.
DJ Wells
Maybe a backup back up big.
T
Probably for L. Cornet. Obviously you gonna have Dylan as your backup one probably running the offense too.
DJ Wells
Me oh my. You need some more shooting. I don't know how Castle still come out the bench.
T
Oh without somebody got a store for.
DJ Wells
CP and I'm assuming he gonna take that role.
Mook
So y' all just gonna start Castle or Seal, Deanne Fox, Wimby and pick one of them random bigs.
DJ Wells
Luke or Net just got paid that.
T
Little cornet probably gonna start next to Wimby.
Mook
There it is. That's your five.
T
Yo, back up.
Bishop
You did far then they ain't got no shooting though.
Mook
That's why I said they need some shooters.
DJ Wells
But still. Yeah. Wimpy shoot seven threes again.
T
That's true.
Mook
I don't know they gonna be in.
T
Fox be decent clips are capable of making threes as well.
Bishop
I mean like they can hit threes, but I'm talking about you need a sniper floor split.
DJ Wells
But sales. No, that's what his job's supposed to be getting buckets.
Bishop
He put it on the ground.
DJ Wells
Yeah, but he, like, known for shooting threes. Yeah.
T
Yeah. I think it's gonna be a little bit different this year.
Mook
They a 7, 8 seed or 910 playing team.
Bishop
They at least would be a playing team for sure.
T
Oh, they can't be a playing scene. They got to be hired now.
Mook
Yeah.
Bishop
I'm just saying.
T
I feel you, but I don't think they got expectations this year. They can't be a playing team.
DJ Wells
They're playing is 10 through 7. I think they're gonna be.
T
Well, I'm saying, like 9 or 10. They can't. They gotta be at least top 8.
Mook
Who they better than up there?
T
Now we have an interesting conversation. They ain't got okc. I might have just.
DJ Wells
I might say. I might take them over the warriors, though.
T
Okay. Timberwolves or Spurs?
DJ Wells
Even though the warriors played really well last year.
Mook
Timberwolves.
T
Timberwolves. Read up.
DJ Wells
Everybody healthy?
Mook
It's tough out there, y'.
DJ Wells
All. I think they might be. They might be ninth best team.
Mook
I'll take them over to Kings.
DJ Wells
The Suns, Kings, Trailblazers.
T
Are they better than the Mavericks?
DJ Wells
No. Yeah. Yeah. Without Kyrie, they are.
Bishop
I still don't think so.
DJ Wells
AD One trip away.
Bishop
True. But if they healthy.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bishop
Everybody won't trip away. I mean.
DJ Wells
I mean, as far as you got more. We just talked about. They bench. They got more resources. Let's say Dear Fox, gotta go out for a little bit. You still got Dylan Harper come in and play.
Bishop
Jones, Freaky Kai Marshall.
DJ Wells
Hey, Straight.
Mook
Russell.
Bishop
I like that Brandon Williams dude.
T
Shout out to B.
DJ Wells
Will.
Mook
Give me the Mavs.
T
Taking the maths. Obviously, I was taking the butt without Kyrie.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bishop
I like the Mavs, bro.
DJ Wells
Max Christian. Oh, if they had Kyrie, I say them because you can deal with Anthony Davis missing his 25, 30 games. He gonna miss that. Ain't no shade. You know he gonna miss that many games, bro. But yeah. Yeah.
Mook
De' Aaron Fox and Wimy is a hell of a duo.
DJ Wells
Yeah, but like. Cause Wimy might miss some games, too. Yeah, but I just feel like they could survive without Wimy a little more than they can survive without A.D.
T
Yeah, but no Kyrie. I agree.
DJ Wells
Yeah. I'm saying they don't got Kyrie for the whole year, so.
Bishop
I get it.
DJ Wells
D lo good, though, bro. He can hold it down. Yeah. But I'm saying if A.D. get hurt. Yeah. Like a Wimby get hurt. I think the spurs can still survive a little bit. With Cornette and all. You just said Harrison Barnes and Kelden Johnson and all these dudes on the bench.
Mook
I like Gaffer and I'm better than them.
T
No Kyrie and no AD is tough.
DJ Wells
Yeah, that's tough. So you already starting the season with no Kyrie. I know you got a pencil in.
Mook
I think the spurs losing Wimby is way more. Way more hurting to the program than AD Going for the.
DJ Wells
All right, so what's your lineup with AD out with this group.
Mook
You got go to that rock show. I'm gonna put it together for you real quick.
DJ Wells
Okay.
T
B. Lo at the one, obviously. Julio two guard Clay, Zoomy Clay Clay answer at the two.
DJ Wells
Belo Clay cool press at three. And then you like that lineup.
Mook
Give me PJ Washington and Lively over the spurs bigs any day. Yeah, out the gate. It's not even a question for me all day. Bisman, Bio Cornet. What's the other big over there?
DJ Wells
That's cool, but I'm talking about who gonna put without victory.
Mook
Without Victor wouldn't be ama.
Bishop
It's just be a cool team. But they gonna take a big ass.
T
Give me.
DJ Wells
I believe in Castle and Fox gonna score the ball. I don't see who gonna score, though. I don't know who gonna score the ball for the.
Mook
Yeah. Are they gonna win?
DJ Wells
I mean, score. Who gonna score the ball for the map.
Bishop
DLO D Lo's gonna score, bro. PJ Washington, he gonna come through. I think Cooper flag would be solid.
DJ Wells
Yeah. Yeah, they gonna be a solid. There ain't nobody from that ball.
Bishop
Spurs gonna be a solid team.
Mook
You act like over there is f to just be getting 30 every night.
Bishop
Fox might but be getting 30.
DJ Wells
Yeah. For 16 last year.
Mook
Okay.
T
If I had to pick. If I had to pick between those two teams, given the injuries, I feel more confident in dear Fox and Castle than DLO and Cooper getting meat on points.
DJ Wells
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like do the full. Yeah.
Mook
Our Biggs is washing y', all.
DJ Wells
But Luke Cornet gonna do what he's supposed to do. So is PJ Harrison Barnes gonna do what he's supposed to do.
T
Regardless.
DJ Wells
I'm just saying they capable.
T
You will respect Harrison Barnes.
DJ Wells
I'm saying they capable of scoring. They've been like some of them people you don't get put in position where like Derrick Lively not scoring. He. He's a 10 and 10 guy.
Mook
Go to PJ Washington.
Bishop
But he do what he supposed to do.
Mook
For average 12 and 3 rebounds. Go to PJ Washington.
T
What piece of average last year, 14 to 7.
Mook
Miss me with that?
DJ Wells
I'm nothing but that. That one is roll. Really Harrison born?
Mook
Oh, my God.
DJ Wells
It ain't.
Mook
Now, we talking about Rose sometimes being effective in the game, bro.
DJ Wells
That PJ Washington missed half the season. What are you talking about?
Mook
And I still have better numbers than you.
DJ Wells
Yeah, that's the whole point. If you play more games, most time your numbers are going to be worse.
Mook
He's going to have a better year. Healthy. Maximum of game by game, P.J. washington is going to average more rebounds and points than Harrison bar year. We can bet on that.
DJ Wells
He probably ain't gonna play that much this year.
Mook
All right?
DJ Wells
If they got a healthy team, his numbers are not gonna look like you think he about to play over Cooper flag.
Mook
He gonna be in the game.
DJ Wells
He might get in.
Mook
He gonna be in the game.
DJ Wells
He gonna. He gonna be a trade target. PJ played 5 extra minutes in 30 less games. Come on, bro. I know what I'm talking about.
Mook
Nah, I'm just saying don't. What does that matter? When I'm in the game, I'm more effective than you.
DJ Wells
No, you have more opportunity than me.
Mook
I play more opportunity than Harrison Barnes.
DJ Wells
How you play five more minutes of me? What do you mean?
Mook
You got it, bro? If I five minutes, you got it, bro.
DJ Wells
Oh, you don't know how much five minutes is in the game. If I play 30 minutes and you play 35, you got way more opportunity than I do.
Mook
Yeah, I got it, bro.
DJ Wells
You don't.
Mook
Give me PJ Washington all that I'm taking situation.
T
Are he going over Harrison Barnes?
Mook
If you give him the same minutes, the same opportunity, give me PJ Washington right now over here at some Barnes flat.
DJ Wells
I ain't say he wasn't better.
Mook
All right, what are we talking about? That team is y' all breaking the. Y' all breaking.
DJ Wells
You telling me PJ Washington gonna be your go to score over dear who? You said who your score get buckets gave me 16.
Mook
I don't know what DLO gonna do because this is 16 for D. You making my point. I'm not.
Bishop
I don't do Kyrie. D. Give me 15.
DJ Wells
Yeah, all right. You got 15. For real. What Clay doing?
Bishop
I don't know.
Mook
I don't know.
DJ Wells
All right, nobody know.
T
We still play down.
Bishop
We know what J's doing.
DJ Wells
We know during 5 minutes, 25 minutes.
Bishop
My point is Fox is going to average 28, 27, but it got to turn into wins.
DJ Wells
What I'm saying is y' all Trying to talk about y' all gonna get wins with people we don't. Y' all even have a clue what these dudes can actually do. You like, I don't know. We don't know what this gonna do.
Bishop
We don't know.
DJ Wells
We know if we know what Luke.
Mook
Cornet gonna do, we do. I don't know what Harrison Barnes is gonna do.
DJ Wells
Nigga, you know what Stephen Castle gonna do. And you know what dear Fox gonna do.
Mook
That's it.
Bishop
Yeah, but the AR people, who.
Mook
They got a trans.
Bishop
I know D. Lo getting 15.
DJ Wells
You think he can.
Bishop
He's done that.
DJ Wells
He averaged 12 last year. You think he can? If.
Bishop
No, Kyrie. I'm starting point.
DJ Wells
She averaged 12 last year.
Bishop
I'm playing all game, Mike average 20. I played a whole.
DJ Wells
He averaged 12.
Bishop
My opportunities. I got more minutes.
Mook
I got five extra minutes.
DJ Wells
I mean, how many minutes D play last year? 25 minutes. I'm getting 33. So you play 35? Game 12. How many. How many I'm getting? So Everybody gonna average 16 points. The whole team.
Bishop
Cooper flag average 14.
DJ Wells
So the whole team just go average 15?
Mook
Hell no. I don't know what niggas gonna do on certain nights.
DJ Wells
Clay.
Bishop
Clay probably gonna take a hit.
DJ Wells
All right, so who gonna score? The might be a.
T
This my boy Summer with them. Everybody else play sound like a team.
DJ Wells
Y. Y.
Bishop
A team.
T
Nobody.
DJ Wells
Nobody got 20 points, bro. We don't need that in the new NBA.
Bishop
13, 15.
DJ Wells
In the new NBA, bro, people scoring 130 points a game.
T
So somebody got average a dub.
DJ Wells
Somebody got average a dub. Now, this was when I played in 2012, when the score was a hundred. Everybody was getting 98 and 100 points. All right? Everybody get 15. Somebody gotta average 20 something. And y' all ain't name one person that average 20. Y'.
Mook
All. Y' all giving AD all these games off. We don't know what's about to happen.
DJ Wells
You know what's about to happen. Well, I take.
Mook
I take it's gonna do.
DJ Wells
I take the under on A.D. all right, so let's.
T
Why are we here? To wrap this up?
DJ Wells
Over.
T
Under 60 games played for AD this year.
DJ Wells
Under, over, over. Under 60.
Mook
It's 82.
T
That's the five.
DJ Wells
Hurt the game he played in Dallas, bro.
Bishop
I gotta.
DJ Wells
I. I got. He got hurt, though, the first game. He kill out for three months. What the. He's done. He definitely did kill. Was killing, too. He's never going play. Play.
Bishop
Having a great game.
Mook
AD I'm rolling with you, man.
DJ Wells
Man, I love AD. I love him. This is the under 60 for AD.
T
Games play a lot, bro.
DJ Wells
Look at his last years, bro. He played 76 and everybody was hyped for him. That nigga followed that motherfucker with a 42 piece.
T
He played what, 51 games last year?
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T
Because he was 42 with the Lakers. And then now the maths.
DJ Wells
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That still ain't 60 at 51.
T
All right, we'll stay tuned with that. Now for the Aaron Fox. Obviously he getting paid like he is a man. He deserved to be paid. What's his expectation next week? Does he need to be an all NBA guard next year?
DJ Wells
He ain't gonna never make that. But he. His numbers will say he gonna be an all NBA guard, but you know how it goes.
Bishop
Most his numbers match up.
T
So if he's getting anything north of 24 next year, he good money.
DJ Wells
Oh yeah, he gonna do the thing. He's an all NBA guard, but he never gonna make the team. They always gonna be Jalen Brunson and these guys.
T
Yeah, Steph.
DJ Wells
Yeah, they always gonna get picked over him. But he deserved to be he just.
Bishop
Got out of numbers.
DJ Wells
Yeah, he gonna be in that category for sure.
T
For show man. All right, man. Shout out to the Spurs. Locking down a young core. Let's hop in the super chat this morning. Rose says how y' all write these albums? 500 degrees, the Carter Carter 3 no ceiling, sorry for the Waves. Like father, like son from the 305 Love. That's a locked ass. But we'll just go for so many since y' all rock with. Because some of these is.
DJ Wells
No, I'm talking about the second question. Like, what is that? That's so weird.
T
We're not gonna read that.
DJ Wells
What the hell, y'. All. Well, that's weird.
T
Hey, I didn't even read that until after I read that first question.
DJ Wells
First question I didn't even see.
Mook
Yeah, I already knew what bro was wrong on.
DJ Wells
That's.
T
Yeah.
DJ Wells
Bro.
T
No refunds either.
DJ Wells
He catego.
T
That is.
Mook
My favorite, though, from. There is no ceilings for me. I ain't got wrinkle. 500 degrees is pool.
T
Damn.
DJ Wells
They had. They. They had one song I like on there, Young and Blues. The rest of that was tr.
T
I can't tell you the last time I've listened to it, but I don't feel that strongly about it. No. Seals is crazy.
DJ Wells
That's it. Sorry.
T
Forcing me there.
DJ Wells
I just like.
Mook
No se that free skills, you know.
DJ Wells
We kill huts, man.
T
Something to me, it's a lot of wasted fire. Wayne verses on there, man.
Bishop
On what?
T
Like five likes in the super chat says who has the best teammate team of all time, LeBron or Steph? And what they both do in the same area and same race that the player with the worst teammates better.
Mook
LeBron had the best teammates. Yeah, you play with all the goats.
DJ Wells
Yeah, LeBron had played, but he didn't play with everybody when they was at their worst.
T
Yes.
Mook
Yeah, he did.
T
Steph got Prom Clay, Brian. KD.
Bishop
Got some teammates.
DJ Wells
Brookie, Jimmy.
T
Yeah, now he playing with James.
DJ Wells
A lot of people, bro.
T
Bro, a lot of people catch a lot of people in their problem.
DJ Wells
He got all sad. Oh, they was all washed like he got.
Mook
Was decent.
DJ Wells
Caleb.
T
Caleb.
DJ Wells
That's it.
Mook
Kyrie, Dwayne Wade. Chris Bosch was decent.
DJ Wells
Oh, yeah. D Way. Chris Bosh, Kyrie, Caleb. Other than that's a Luca too. Lucas.
Bishop
Prom kd, bro.
DJ Wells
He played with Prom D Way.
Bishop
And Prom Clay. Prom KD is crazy. All of them, bro. That's it.
Mook
They said teammates, not the best teammate.
Bishop
I'm just saying.
DJ Wells
They play Prime D. Wade, too.
T
Yeah, right.
Bishop
I know Jimmy. Right now yeah.
DJ Wells
This line up is crazy. Anthony Davis, Dwayne Ray Allen.
Bishop
Said, bro.
Mook
Double double with Bra.
DJ Wells
Westbrook.
Bishop
We didn't care about Boo. So he went to Utah, bro.
Mook
He played with Russell Westbrook.
T
I'm happy that they put my boy Larry Hughes up there. Shout out to Larry Hughes.
DJ Wells
No, he played with Westbrook.
Mook
Russell. Russell was not a bomb.
Bishop
That was terrible.
T
He wasn't a bomb.
Bishop
But still official.
DJ Wells
He was a bomb with the. Yeah. LeBron played with too many good people.
Mook
That was just a bad fit for Russell Westbrook.
DJ Wells
He's still.
Mook
Russell Westbrook with the Denver Nuggets was fire.
DJ Wells
Yeah, with the Nuggets.
T
And with the Clippers, he was efficient as well.
Mook
Yeah.
DJ Wells
It ain't adding up, man. It's definitely Brown.
Mook
He grew up with.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
T
After that first class, he get a.
DJ Wells
Little.
Mook
Talking about what team.
DJ Wells
This is it.
Bishop
This came here.
Mook
It is. You said DeMarcus Cousins. He wasn't on no championship team. What you want to see?
DJ Wells
Nick, you sneak.
Bishop
He tried sneaking one in his top five.
Mook
He's all killers, dude. No disrespect. Shout out to d' Angelo up there. The son.
DJ Wells
The son out the club.
T
Kabali being top 10 is crazy. And respect to him.
Mook
And they got. Hold on. They got my Sean Liveson up. Gary Payton is not better than sh. L. Hell, no. Are we doing. Yeah, get step. Steph, boy. Y' all gotta put some more respect on Steph. Richard Jefferson up some on this list. What the. Did Steph play with Stephen Jackson.
T
Before they change their.
Mook
No, this must be that. Just play for the Spurs. I meant for the Warriors. I mean, ain't no way.
DJ Wells
Not his rookie year.
T
That was it.
DJ Wells
Wow.
T
That was before they changed jerseys.
Mook
He played with Stat. Y' all got Steph.
T
Jermaine o', Neal, legend.
DJ Wells
My boy. My boy.
T
Look at, like, future. Yeah. I think LeBron won this debate for sure.
DJ Wells
Yeah. Easy. Last one kind of pockets on what he played with KJ. LeBron fan, bro. All right.
T
Hustle says, Wear my BM Broad Ripple jersey with no draws on today. Nasty work, Jameson.
Mook
0Nah. Remember 5 or 21, bro.
Bishop
It was 21, bro.
DJ Wells
He thought she was kg.
Mook
That was kg, bro.
T
James the Lane White says, what up, gang? I asked a question yesterday about Kenny Lofton. I feel he deserves a spot or someone. Kenneth Lofton, Excuse me, serves a spot or someone roster. His point shows. He can score, he can hoop.
Bishop
But now you can hoop. He's just six four, bro. Six four.
DJ Wells
Big man.
Bishop
They just ain't gonna rock with it.
Mook
You can't be six core, anything like not athletic in the NBA.
Bishop
He is cold, though.
T
Yeah. He's a cool person that if he don't get back in the NBA, he's gonna make a lot of money because he is a killer for show.
DJ Wells
All right.
T
Lynn Telford said, why not try to come in for Mathering since neither one of their coaches with them and you got me tapped back into wrestling after 20 plus years. Shout out to you. I like it. That's right. I ain't mad at it. I mean, if they're not gonna rock.
DJ Wells
With Ben, but I don't know, that.
T
Can make a situation weird. You see the ghost that came out said, yeah, bro, we're not trading you. Like, you're locked in, bro.
DJ Wells
Yeah, the owner's liking, but I mean, that's like a good and a bad thing because he a free agent. I mean, a restricted free agent. I don't understand. I really understand that process, man. I gotta reach out to some agents and see what's going on.
Bishop
There's liking, but Steve Cardone.
DJ Wells
Yeah, but I'm saying, like, if it's other teams that want you, you can sign contracts with other team. You're a restricted free agent. I'm just not understanding why you can't sign a contract with another team.
Bishop
He can. They just ain't offering.
DJ Wells
Yeah, but keep, people keep. It might be lies. It might be his camp just saying a team on him or whatever.
Mook
Yeah, yeah.
T
I know it's slow and everybody trying to get constant out or check the fence or whatever, but every day we keep saying that from scenes, but we don't see no official sheet. That's why I was confused. As you said.
Bishop
I think Golden State calling his bluff. They're like, you ain't got no offers, bro. Where they at? Why they ain't talking now? We ain't paying you what you think. Why are we gonna pay you if we don't got to?
DJ Wells
That's a fact.
T
But do y' all think they ultimately want him there or they just want to get the value to move over the value?
DJ Wells
They just want. They want something in return that they. They feel his worth. And if they don't, they like, we can get him on the low. We like you if we can keep you for 14 million. Yeah, we.
T
We don't like you at 30.
DJ Wells
No, no.
T
A good spot for you.
DJ Wells
We ain't like you at 1 7. But I told him, I told him. I told y'.
Bishop
All.
DJ Wells
He fumbled when he didn't sign with Jalen Johnson. Song.
T
Yeah.
DJ Wells
And he didn't sign. I said, oh, he's in a rude awakening. They about to. They about to not like him no more.
Mook
Yeah, you definitely said that.
Bishop
If you don't take their offers, they do get petty.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Mook
They ain't about to be getting spooky for him.
DJ Wells
I'm like, you ain't about to play no. Soon as he ain't take that offer.
Bishop
All of a sudden, he ain't play no more.
DJ Wells
They don't like him no more.
Mook
They playing with your money. Then when you ain't getting no minutes, man.
T
Tough situation. Prayers up for my boy. All right. Cato Kill says, hear me out. Why is that KD get a pass. He's a great, efficient scorer for sure, but not a winner at all. All his teams were stacked and always underachieved. It's a three other top 100 players to win a ring without Gold State, nothing. Thoughts?
Bishop
Well, the thing about him not being a winner is he won twice.
DJ Wells
So.
T
Yeah, he got two rings.
DJ Wells
That's that.
T
And they needed him for both.
DJ Wells
And he really got OKC popping. Yeah. Like OKC was when they came from Seattle. Nobody was with OKC at all. He became the MVP out there, built the franchise up.
Mook
Yeah. I don't know what that.
DJ Wells
I don't know. After that, he was just plagued by injury. I mean, towards Achilles. Famous. Yeah.
T
And he's one of the best players ever, regardless of the situation. Yeah.
DJ Wells
That Brooklyn team don't get hurt.
T
He gets ready.
DJ Wells
Yeah. We speak about them differently. Yeah.
T
Ain't no pass for Katie. I know people talk about he ain't got a home to go home to. KD been killing everywhere he went, bro. One of the best ever.
DJ Wells
I don't think he cared about that. He got a nice house wherever he lives.
Mook
He does not care.
Bishop
I wouldn't care.
T
One of the best ever played basketball, bro.
Mook
His attitude is trash like Marsh, bro. He does not give a damn.
Bishop
You really don't. Better than everybody.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
T
He like. And they know, too. If y' all think the.
DJ Wells
Okay.
T
See will retire his jersey once since I said it on 30 Rockers.
DJ Wells
Nah, they too bitter. They should, but they too bitter.
Mook
Damn.
Bishop
They top two all time from here, bro.
DJ Wells
If you want an MVP to your jersey. Supposed to go up.
T
Thanks. Should Golden State put him in the batteries as well?
DJ Wells
He should go up.
T
Okay.
DJ Wells
Two times.
Bishop
Two final.
DJ Wells
Maybe. Peace, bro.
Mook
Yeah, I deserve to be here.
T
Obviously won't happen in Brooklyn, but those two for sure, I think.
DJ Wells
All right.
T
Cutthroat803 says from the neck up. It's vegan. The reference body, Lex Johnson, powdered up. That is crazy.
Mook
I'm telling y'.
DJ Wells
All.
Mook
That body powder official though, for sure.
T
I'm scared of who we about to search and see who. This is Flexi Alexander.
DJ Wells
He calls you mj.
Mook
That's still a crazy ass picture.
T
Nasty work, man. Nasty work. All right, jj, the super chat says follow up with the D Miz versus Booker from yesterday. How would you rank Ant, book, D Miss and Jalen Brown in that order?
DJ Wells
Hell no.
Bishop
Jalen Brown first talk all of them.
Mook
I'm nothing.
Bishop
I'm the only finals MVP up here.
Mook
That's cool.
Bishop
I'm first.
Mook
Give me that.
T
Until you go by the facts instead.
DJ Wells
Number one, JB or Ant? I mean, I'm taking it.
Mook
I'm taking Ant, bro.
T
All right. JB or book.
DJ Wells
Jb, bro.
T
Okay. Mostly I'm going with the files.
Bishop
Mvp, bro.
T
Yeah.
DJ Wells
I can't say this. I'm interested to see what it looked like this year. Dad's gonna tell me a lot where.
T
He get to shoot the balls out.
DJ Wells
What does that say?
Mook
Oh, yeah. He has the op or you know.
Bishop
He got the key. Yeah, I know he got the key.
DJ Wells
I just want to say how good this is. I want to see how like do they still win? Yeah. It's a similar class. It's a simple playing field now.
Bishop
I'm taking a big ass hit, bro. I lost my best player, bro. They same team.
DJ Wells
But you still got.
Bishop
People still have their exact same team.
DJ Wells
But I'm saying you still now it's your team. You gotta. You gotta. You gotta be book team. You gotta be book team though.
Bishop
Yeah. That'd be better in Phoenix for sure.
T
So if JB get the Celtics to.
DJ Wells
50 wins this year and he average MVP. MVP.
T
They ain't hitting 50 win if they go 500. And he averaging like 26, 27. That's a great year.
Mook
He's not better than Ant.
DJ Wells
Yeah, not with this team, bro. Ant has a good team, right? Team is awful. You have to get a final. It's really him and Derrick White and Peyton Pritchard.
T
Yeah.
DJ Wells
Anthony Simons can hoop.
T
Yeah. This is definitely not the Boston teams of before.
DJ Wells
Damn, guy. Bro.
Mook
Yang just replaced Tatum.
DJ Wells
Oh my God.
Bishop
That's my dog too.
T
But shout out to the minivan.
DJ Wells
But boy. Yeah, they don't. That's a tough team they got going on around there.
Bishop
He's gonna average 30 and have fun this year, bro. Just watch the highlights, bro. Don't worry about enjoy myself.
Mook
I don't like that. Y' all do that. I do not like that. Y' all get to pick and choose when these players get to win or lose a ring. That's not fair.
Bishop
Already won, bro.
Mook
That's crazy. Y' all pick every day. It changes with winning or loser with.
Bishop
Y' all situations, bro. Matters, bro.
Mook
That's fine, bro.
T
On that list before we move on, is he the only one? It's not option number one on that list.
DJ Wells
Yeah. Yeah.
Bishop
MVP on this piece of paper.
Mook
Goddamn. Now.
T
It'S time to see.
Bishop
He's gonna average 30, bro.
Mook
Okay.
Bishop
All right.
T
No. Good question. All right. I wrote a super chat said DJ got to sell him a phone book when he get a cut. But shout out moot 2012 Kentucky top off guard team all time. Oh, man. All right. J real 718 says. What up, fellas? Been rocking with y' all for a while now. Hands down. Best pop salute from the 3:3:0. What do y' all know about Youngstown and the talent from Ohio? Shout out to Youngstown. It's in town. Ohio. Shout out to Ohio, Red. Solid AAU program. We got some Hoopers out there for sure. Ohio State. How you feeling, man?
DJ Wells
I love Ohio State. I don't know no kids from Ohio, though.
T
Sure. Shout out to Youngstown. I appreciate the love. Tony Reyes and Super Chat says Coach T was something you wish you understood as a player that you now prioritize as a coach when preparing athletes for games and practices. Good question.
DJ Wells
What I didn't do when I played, I always watch film. Probably, like, when I was younger, like, lifting weights. I didn't care anything about lifting weights when I was in high school.
Mook
Boy, if you lift ways in high school, yo, that's probably crazy now. You would probably been insane.
DJ Wells
I probably been so much better.
Mook
6, 3, 2, 10.
DJ Wells
Because I was. I was 154 when I left high school.
Bishop
Yeah, but you have a lot of bounce because of that.
Mook
But I'm saying, though, like, if he was just stronger or he been a.
DJ Wells
Freak of nature with my bounce, because as soon as I started lifting weights, I was jumping so high.
Mook
Oh, boy. He was better. He just told you. When he got to college and put that weight on him, he.
Bishop
Bro, he was flying in high school. He was flying in college, bro. He's gonna have bounce regardless, bro.
Mook
I'm just. I think his game would have looked different.
T
That made you more explosive.
DJ Wells
Oh, yeah, for sure. The moment. I didn't even take way serious in college. I did it just because I had to. But I was still missing.
Mook
If he was built like he was in college, you know how easy it would have been for him to score?
Bishop
It was easy for him to score.
Mook
Anyway a being 200 or 190 sometimes.
Bishop
That way don't mess up your knees and all that.
Mook
His translated.
DJ Wells
I wish I was a little stronger in high school. I wish I would have took it a little more serious in high school.
Bishop
He wasn't like. He was just cut up.
Mook
How much you were in high school? About the same. About the same.
Bishop
170.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I was super skinny. I was like, skinny, too.
Mook
Jersey is 170 is decent, though.
DJ Wells
Yeah. Like, I was like, yeah, 154 is your.
Mook
You sick.
DJ Wells
I was so sick.
T
It was crazy.
Mook
Gofundme, baby.
DJ Wells
I was so skinny.
Mook
63150, bro. Oh, Lord.
Bishop
That's what. That's how not rebuilt right now. 35.
DJ Wells
That's how skinny I was, though.
Mook
That is crazy, bro.
DJ Wells
I gave 30 pounds in two months. I gained two pounds, 30 pounds in two months.
Mook
Shit.
T
Oh, damn.
DJ Wells
I was jumping highest. I came back home, bro. I was Euro stepping. I was going through the legs all easy.
Mook
And see, when you that big, people kind of scared to get in your way because don't want to get elbows, nothing. Body to body, it's different.
DJ Wells
No. All right.
T
Young art on the super chat says shout out to be here for representing the big boy community. Well, baby powder will forever be understood.
Mook
Shout out to the ladies that tapped into. A few big girls tapped in. Put that powder on them titties.
DJ Wells
I seen it.
T
Treating it like pizza, though. I can get through the morning shift, man. Shout out to everybody at work right now. We appreciate y' all tapping in. All right, man. Making a milestone mooc, man. It's for you. What's that? Moment you realize you finally made it, man. You was like, all right, it's official now. I'm like that.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bishop
After we won our championship, we did a autograph signing and I ran up like a hundred thousand, all cash, bro. So I. I never seen no money like that. I seen. I was like, oh, we lit shit got a little different. That's when I just knew she was a little different, man.
Mook
From autograph signing.
Bishop
Hell yeah.
DJ Wells
Shout out to charm man. That's a charm moment.
Bishop
Up a million on that mug.
DJ Wells
What? Yeah.
T
All right. So that 100k, would you go crazy with. I know you say about love it.
Bishop
I bought his truck, black Tahoe. I spent all that hundred.
Mook
Yeah, he smoked that truck out.
Bishop
Yeah, I did that about.
DJ Wells
I don't know.
Bishop
I Just buying stupid. But I bought that truck for sure.
T
That was the championship deal.
DJ Wells
He had the craziest discount on a truck. Yeah.
Mook
And destroyed it.
DJ Wells
I had just bought the truck.
T
All right, so which car was for? The people who are listening don't know what car was.
DJ Wells
I had a Black tie on, 26s.
Bishop
Like, rob deer sound system, crazy 415s in the back. Yeah, we went crazy.
DJ Wells
I think I spend 100 on it.
Bishop
Not me.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I know you got it for like, 20 or something.
Bishop
Discount.
T
Oh, yeah, that's love.
DJ Wells
You know what's crazy? So funny, though. He bought that truck for me, and I bought. I told him I bought a Jeep. I was like, yo, you should buy this Jeep, man. Yeah. And you should trick it out, put big tires on it. I was like, they raw, bro.
Mook
I'mma do it, boy.
DJ Wells
Yeah. I was like, you should do it. He was like, man, I want no damn Jeep. I was like, no, they raw, bro. He's like, man, he got me messed up, bro. I'm like, I'm telling you, they cold. Yeah. I get no Jeep, but I look like a white girl. I didn't see the vision. I want that. I was like, you can have it. I get the truck. Guess who gets a Jeep three years later.
Bishop
Got like three of them.
T
I see the vision.
DJ Wells
At first, what I'm saying was crazy, too.
Mook
That dude was crazy.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
T
Now for sure. Hey, decided bonus money. Ain't nothing wrong with that.
Mook
I ain't never know. I never knew y' all got paid.
Bishop
Like that because you know we ain't get money for being there. So that's how I paid them.
Mook
Yeah, I had an autograph signing.
DJ Wells
That way I still ain't sign.
T
Be.
DJ Wells
Eating off this excited. Well, they could wait to get to you out of there, boy. I told you that was happening when.
Bishop
I came to practice. Thousand out his pocket. I said, what the. He said, go do them autograph side when it ran up a hundred.
Mook
Wow, bro.
DJ Wells
I told you, boy. When I went to wake for it, I came back, they was talking bad about me. Our team is going to be so much better defensively. We don't have him. I'm like, I'm like, for real. I think it ain't joking while I'm walking in.
T
Like, ah, they cry.
DJ Wells
Coach crazy. He told her. I was like, oh, hey, Jeff, what's going on? Oh, he wasn't joking, Gary. Like, no, he do that every day, bro.
Bishop
It's just because he was mad at you.
DJ Wells
That's not. Yeah, like, that's how you feel he really mean that? I mean I average them or two.
Mook
Steals more than enough.
T
Ain't no love. All right man, load up to Drake Mr. Jefferson with a Carl Malone and Charles Barkley debate. If you have not heard it.
DJ Wells
Oh geez man, that's a debate.
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DJ Wells
I'm gonna be on a podcast here soon. Shout out to y' all guys.
T
Shout out to Rose triples.
DJ Wells
To him.
T
So basically with Philly, he was in.
DJ Wells
And out of basically.
T
Here's when we can basically say he was taking Paul Malone over Charles Barkley party.
DJ Wells
I'm saying Charles was a rebel. He's not a role model.
Bishop
So I'm not taking shots at him.
DJ Wells
But I'm saying when you look at.
Bishop
A guy like Carl Malone who trained for eight hours a day, he played.
DJ Wells
For 19 years, he was second in scoring.
Mook
And if his body would have held.
Bishop
Up, he probably would have been the.
Mook
All time leading scorer.
T
Assuming he's just talking strictly basketball court.
Bishop
Give me Carl Malone.
T
Okay.
DJ Wells
On the court, they talking straight basketball. He talking about when it comes to being a basketball player. He ain't talking about his personal. We know it.
Mook
Some of the discipline of the game.
DJ Wells
Yeah, yeah. He likes being a basketball talk.
T
A lot of.
Bishop
And all that that's took care of his body.
T
It's quiet.
Bishop
Just went to work, basically.
DJ Wells
Yeah. Charles Malone, I mean, Charles Malone, they both up. Charles Barkley, he'd be fighting in the ye fights and stuff, like at bars, getting arrested. And that's what he talking about.
T
Charles off the court activity, you know what I'm saying was different. But also Carl's off court activity is insane. 1000% detrimental to a team. But if you're just keeping it basketball pure basketball. I understand Carl got some most buckets ever.
DJ Wells
So I can boys that know about Carl Malone allegations to you as a Laker.
Bishop
Charles Barkley was silly, though.
T
Charles bar was cold.
Mook
Yeah, I gotta take Malone, though, bro.
DJ Wells
Who y' all taking?
T
Y' all squiddy?
Mook
I'm taking.
DJ Wells
I'm taking Charles.
T
I'm taking Charles.
Bishop
Too many buckets, bro. Yeah, he got too many buzzers for me to just ignore.
DJ Wells
I'm gonna call. He did wrestling, man. He like wrestling, so.
T
Oh, yeah. I'm rocking with Chuck, man.
Mook
25 and 10 is crazy.
T
I'm rocking with Chuck, man.
DJ Wells
I feel like he was better For a longer period of time, Carl Malone was.
Mook
Yeah.
T
At their peak. Who you taking?
Mook
I'm saying Carl.
T
I'm taking 93, Chuck, baby.
Bishop
So it was an MVP.
DJ Wells
Yeah. Carl Malone's MVP.
T
Oh, it definitely was, too.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bishop
Give me calm alone.
DJ Wells
I'm sorry.
T
I'm rocking with Chuck, man.
Bishop
Only thing was Malone had Stockton. Dominique, bro.
Mook
Oh, boy, was no slouch.
T
Kevin Johnson was a bucket, too. They had a whip in Phoenix. I mean, they just ran to MJ.
DJ Wells
Yeah. I'm gonna go with the 25 and 10 around that. That.
T
Yeah, man. With me. I'm a rock out with Chuck.
DJ Wells
But we put that poll up the stern.
T
Get well on the mouth, man. Shout out to the production team with good money. Who's some of y top five power forwards? NBA history. We ain't got to rank them, but tbd. Okay.
Bishop
Kg.
T
Yeah.
Bishop
Carl Malone, Charles Barkley.
DJ Wells
Nope.
T
Dir about to say you put Dirk Kid over Charles. Yeah.
DJ Wells
No order.
T
Yeah, he said no order. We just put 95 Giannis as a power forward.
Bishop
I like Giannis, too.
DJ Wells
Tim Duncan, KG Dirt Giannis.
Mook
I'm just adding Mari Stoudemire just because I focused on Mari Stoudemire.
T
I like Amar. I don't know if I can put him in top.
DJ Wells
My top five Giannis over Carl Malone and Charles Barkley. He got a championship. And I mean, man, two MVPs already. Yeah.
T
Yeah.
DJ Wells
I don't have a ride with that.
T
I ain't mad at that. I'm putting Chuck in my top five. I mean, like I said, Carmel's top three buckets can't be mad at all.
Mook
Who would y' all rather take? Anthony Davis or Charles Barkley? Healthy.
DJ Wells
Me.
Bishop
Anthony Davis, bro.
DJ Wells
7 foot Anthony Davis.
Mook
Not respect.
T
Yeah. And that's not disrespecting Chuck, but you.
DJ Wells
Still six three, bro.
T
That's what make him go for you to be a 64 power forward, bro. You was dominating, bro.
DJ Wells
But. And the way mvp he was raw. Yeah.
T
He was killing for sure. All right, man, we got here John Wall talking about the death of the true pgs, man. He was on the podcast basically saying it's quiet for this traditional point guard. He said they really are two guards now, like you. Yeah. He said, you got a couple people, you know what I'm saying?
DJ Wells
Who.
T
Who pushed the game? Guys73 who still played make first push the ball up. But so basically, today's PG has to be able to score a lot, too, to be a point guard.
Bishop
You do game change.
Mook
He said that a long time ago.
Bishop
PG'S been scoring though.
T
Yeah.
Bishop
He scored what he averaged 20 at least.
T
Yeah. John Wall was a bucket. I mean, he did always had high assist as well, but nah.
Bishop
Yeah, but I'm just saying Flingar has been scoring for a while now.
DJ Wells
Yeah, you gotta be a scoring threat. But I get what he's saying. I was taught when I first came in the wanted to get guys paid. Like, it's like it was a gift and a curse to think about it that way. Like, I wish I didn't think like that. Like, I wish I would have thought of like get me paid. But I get what he's saying. You really think about, like, oh man, I want my teammates to get bread. He in a contract year. Let's make sure we get him. Blah, blah, blah. That's how point guards used to think.
Bishop
Yeah. That's how we was brought up. That's how my daddy taught me how to play.
DJ Wells
Yeah. I wish my dad was not like that.
T
Yeah. I mean. Yeah. And if you look at all his years, I mean, John Wall was always heavy with assists. And like you said, it's a. We talk about the Gore toss grants and stuff like that. He got people paid for sure. And still killed.
DJ Wells
Yeah. Facts.
T
Is that gonna be different nowadays for a lot of peaches like Dylan Harper, Dillon Harper should be more of a scorer facilitator going in. I know he on team Wimby. He probably gotta score more, but is he a better player at 2010? Is he a better player at 25 and 5?
Bishop
To me, but he probably gonna average 25, 5.
DJ Wells
Okay.
Bishop
But to me, if you can get 20 and 10, you make your thing that much better. I always feel like the point guard job is to make everybody a better player.
DJ Wells
Yeah. That's why Tyrese Halliburton is like loved so much by purists of basketball who watch the game like, oh my God. I love how Tyrese play because he gets everybody involved and it reminds them of when they used to watch Magic Johnson and Stockton and all these guys. He gets everybody involved. He pushed the tempo of the game. And then for the younger people like us, or even younger than us, sometimes we get mad at Tyrese Halliburton because we, like, he don't get buckets like he own. It's his time to go for 40. If he's a superstar, he supposed to get 45. But he's just a pure point guard. And like, that's not his job because he's a point guard.
Bishop
That's why Chris Paul, he did that shit to the T. Cause he got everybody better. But he knew when it was like, all right, I gotta take the game over now.
DJ Wells
That's because he was a top five point guard of all time. Like, I can do this, but this is when it's time to win. Yeah, I gotta take over the game. Not everybody got that.
T
Have y' all been seeing that conversation? The Kyrie or CP3 conversation?
Bishop
I mean, Chris Paul, bro, I've seen that.
T
Yeah, he has been heavy on that. It was just like, you know, as good as Chris Paul is as a. Like, generating other people's buckets, Kyrie is just as good as getting buckets. It's been an interesting conversation. It's been a very interesting conversation.
DJ Wells
So you have to start your team. Who you start your team with.
Bishop
Chris Paul. I know my team gonna be a winner.
Mook
I don't care about all that.
Bishop
You just want to see a show out.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
T
Give me.
Mook
Kyrie. Curry's a winner.
Bishop
He is a winner. Yeah, he won.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
T
Yeah. They said that his, you know, his niche is that if you put him as your second option and all, his job is go kill and not have to worry about Lee.
DJ Wells
That's the best.
T
You got the best thing. But they said if you need to start a team out with some leadership and people who can generate shots easier for other people, they go, chris Paul. That's what I.
DJ Wells
That's a fair assessment. Me, personally, I probably would start my team with Chris Paul. Like a young Chris Paul and a young Kyrie Irving. I'm gonna get the best of both worlds.
Bishop
Chris Paul was crazy.
Mook
Get a D West and 2. That was crazy.
DJ Wells
That was.
Bishop
People forget about that.
T
Top hop, MVP voting.
DJ Wells
CP3 right there.
Mook
That CP was.
DJ Wells
That's how I got the wig for it. I ain't forget I said that's how I'm going forward.
T
Yeah, man. It's been a very interesting conversation between the two. And then a lot of people say that people over at Kyrie's game because how he scores. But I think he's one of the most efficient Hoopers in that situation. I was like, this is the way he does it. Everybody fall in love with it. Yeah, 25 is 25. Even if he shoots up for three people, it's still 25.
DJ Wells
Yeah. Like, Kyrie Irving is one of the best basketball players ever. One of the most efficient basketball players ever. Skilled basketball players ever. But it's not like he averages 35.
Bishop
Yeah.
DJ Wells
Like, when you look at him, he still only averages 25 a game.
T
Yeah.
DJ Wells
It's just the way you do it, it's so beautiful.
Mook
Yeah, it's just.
Bishop
It's beautiful.
T
And it's super efficient as well, too.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah. It's just. I mean, he's efficient. He's one of the best basketball players to ever live.
Bishop
Because like Jeff said, bro, he shoots. Tony Parker probably shoot the best layups ever.
DJ Wells
For real.
Bishop
And nobody says it because Kyrie layups is pretty.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bishop
But Tony Parker never missed.
DJ Wells
Never.
Bishop
And nobody says nothing about it.
Mook
I'm mad at that.
T
Yeah.
DJ Wells
Like, think about that. Tony Parker couldn't shoot. Yeah.
T
But that floater automatically. Floating bucket.
DJ Wells
That's all he did. He was one of the most efficient paint scorers in the league. And he was 5, 10 now. TP used to get active, like around the basket, bro. He was elite. That's crazy.
T
Yeah. Small guards definitely tap in. Sony Parker.
DJ Wells
But Kyrie Irving, his game is so beautiful. Like, you can't. There's nothing he can't do with the basketball. No. Right. But when you think about it, like you said, it is only 25. Pretty interesting when you think about it, because I would think kyrie Irving average 30.
Bishop
They probably could, though.
DJ Wells
I mean, he could.
T
Oh, yeah. I mean, it's Kyrie.
DJ Wells
What he does.
T
Let's look at his numbers of the years. He probably had his highest score. It's probably near that 25 range. I'm sure.
DJ Wells
27.
Bishop
He averaged 27 a few times.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
T
He went 25, 24, 23. Yeah. 27. 27. 27. 27, 27.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
T
50, 49 in the club every year, too.
DJ Wells
Yeah. It's crazy.
Mook
I'm rolling Reezy.
DJ Wells
And stuff is crazy.
Bishop
Ain't wrong.
DJ Wells
But I just. You would just think he was like.
Mook
Ass damn near 50, 40, 90.
DJ Wells
Oh, no. He usually is one of the best basketball players to ever live. One of the most efficient.
Mook
I. I see what. You see what y' all saying so far. I was like starting a team and trying to get to that promised land. You could put a bunch of different players around cp and he can pull the best out of everybody.
DJ Wells
Yeah. I mean, just look at this. Just look at the teams, though. Like, team that. Okay. C team. Yeah.
T
That team wasn't supposed to be that good.
Mook
That Clippers team. It was talent, but he brought that together. 50 wins.
Bishop
That OKC team, we was like, wow.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bishop
He turned them up, bro.
T
They was whooping with three yards.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bishop
He got Shay together.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Mook
Shay owed him a couple hundred.
DJ Wells
Look at the too.
T
They all benefited from.
DJ Wells
They all learned how to shoot Mides.
T
Yeah, yeah, for sure. All right, man.
DJ Wells
Good question.
Mook
Shout out to John coach when he done or something. Some way form of fast.
T
I can see him being around the game. I couldn't see him coaching because he the way he see the game. Nobody else. He could probably demand that.
Mook
I mean like I think he'd be great like a player development type of person in the league if he wants to play.
Bishop
He's like Ron coaching. They just see the game too crazy.
DJ Wells
You can't. He's hard to get people.
Mook
Not even player development.
DJ Wells
No, I could see that Russell be doing it. Yeah, he got one of monsters cp. Yeah, he do. But CP such a different. Like CP could take over yo whole thing. Like hey, the coach could be coaching and CP could like come in and say because he's a better coach than your coach. Probably.
Mook
Yeah.
DJ Wells
So if I start working with a guy, like I could probably like, hey, this is what you need to do.
Mook
Like give me the whole team.
DJ Wells
Yeah, you in the practice, I'm working with you. Hey, you come in here and you're.
Mook
Saying CPA come some up.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I ain't saying you're gonna it up. Yeah, like he gonna ego or something.
Mook
Start rising in there like, hold on you.
DJ Wells
Yeah, like people gonna start saying we might need CP to coach.
T
They like, we don't have CP on Tuesday.
DJ Wells
He never take your job.
T
But at the same they say like, hey man. And he's like, could you go coach? He's like, no, because I can't. The way that I see the game, I can't explain that to people. And I'm gonna want that back and I ain't gonna get it.
DJ Wells
Yeah. When you start coaching, like coaching really is just like how you can relate to players. Like it's not how you see the game. Cause people not gonna be able to see the game like you like I try to put money like some our point guards in my shoes and I try to get in their shoes and it just don't match up. Yeah, like I'm like, man, why you can't see that play happening before it happens? Like you don't see that dude come off that pick and roll that low man there in that corner gonna be wide open.
Mook
You didn't say it too much already.
Bishop
I realized that our second day coaching, I said, oh, they just not us, bro. They don't see what we see. Yeah, let's just meet them where they at, bro.
DJ Wells
So you gotta do drills to train people mind to see certain things. But naturally some people just don't have that gift. Like on a fast break. Yeah, like on a fast break, if a big is running the lane in the middle of the floor, most of the time, the big gonna suck in the whole defense for us.
Mook
Yeah.
DJ Wells
That mean a corner guy probably gonna be open if they're running. Instead, kids are still trying to throw it to the big running in the middle of the floor and get it stolen instead of skipping it to that person in the corner. Sometimes you just gotta train people. But naturally, as a kid, I knew that already.
Bishop
And there's some kids that know that.
Mook
But I wish kids trained like that in those type of atmospheres instead of doing the cone shit on one.
Bishop
They need to. But like he said, he a had to train to do that. He just knew to do that. It's just a gift he got.
Mook
I just also think that's true. Y' all do have gifts, but I just think y' all just play more basketball with y' all friends. Even if they were sad. You learn playing like that, you know.
DJ Wells
What it really was? We watched. We watched tape. And when people say tape, I don't mean we watch college games and stuff. We watched N1 and 1. Really influenced you how to play basketball. I don't care what nobody say. You learned how to pass and you learned how to dribble facts a thousand percent. Because everybody did fancy passes and you had pats. And the only way you completed a fancy pass, if you had to throw it early. So you dribbling and somebody cut and you had to throw a pants and spin it. Help you with your timing on stuff. So you threw it earlier because you ain't want to get stolen. You want to complete the fancy move. And people don't realize that it helped translate into real basketball. Even though my dad's like, quit doing all that fancy shit. But my dad later on in life, he was like that. Y' all used to watch helped you out. It works because I had to work on your left hand. You learned how to do all that because you wanted to be able to do it. Yeah.
Bishop
Never had to work on handle.
Mook
He was cat walking down the street.
Bishop
Yes, I handle. Suit up. It was cool.
DJ Wells
I used to. I used to dribble all the way to filling them house between the legs and try not to mess up.
Mook
Yeah, like, nah, for sure.
DJ Wells
Let's see if I can do a thousand dribbles in a row between the legs before I mess up. Like. Like that. Cause you heard somebody say it like.
Bishop
Now that's facts, bro. Because back in the Day it wasn't too many people. That was just sad, bro.
DJ Wells
Bro, everybody had handles.
Bishop
Everybody knew how to play some type of basketball. We had like that now, bro.
DJ Wells
We had street dudes that could dribble.
Mook
Oh, that's a fact.
DJ Wells
Like, it come down and start crossing that. Yeah. You'd be like, damn. Like, he got handles out of nowhere. Yeah.
T
But at the park had a double crossover for no reason.
Bishop
Everywhere. Outside hooping. No, kids outside hooping trying tricks, like.
DJ Wells
Trying to do trick moves. Shout out to my boy Wes about West had everything. Black west had every coldest street ball.
Mook
And Black west was the first Steph Curry in the hood now.
DJ Wells
So they get shoot. Far as hell. Yeah, he get shoot.
T
You know what's interesting y' all say that? One thing is everybody used to watch them. And one mixtape, DVDs, VHS. And we pause it and go outside.
DJ Wells
And try that show every single time.
T
And then Kelvin Sampson has something interesting. He was just like, yeah, yeah. Shout out to the kids. Training. If y' all was playing one on zeros a year, y' all would be great. But we play 505. He said, Y' all doing all these drills against people where it's defenders there. Y' all never gonna do that in the game. Y' all have to go play against.
Bishop
That's why you gotta hoop outside, bro.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bishop
That's how you get your real reps in.
DJ Wells
And that's how to show a double round. That's how you get, bro.
Bishop
Yeah, that double rim get you right.
DJ Wells
Like, I remember the first time I seen Skip to my Lou. He did a. A wide one. Like a wide wind up and then threw it between his legs. Nast. And I was like, damn. I went outside, did this shit like a hundred times in a row. The star playing fly. You gotta play somebody so you can try to move on.
Mook
Yeah.
DJ Wells
So I was like, hey, y' all trying to hoop everybody we play start playing four on four where we play. And I hit somebody with it. And they was like, you know, Phil, you can't do it going the other way. Let me try. Let's right like. And that's how we practice. But we practice on each other. Pause like, let's see if we can cross each other.
Bishop
And one need to come back and say, today, honey.
DJ Wells
They say, yeah.
Bishop
And he.
Mook
I need to find that Skip to my little verse. Ali mo tape.
DJ Wells
I need.
T
God bless you.
DJ Wells
Had to try. See all the moves the kids try now. They try it against a cone.
Bishop
Yeah, I need somebody try to steal this.
DJ Wells
Yeah. So you had we had to try all our moves against somebody, see if they work. I'mma throw the ball off your head. That used to get the argument right.
T
There off the easy. A lot of people got stolen.
Bishop
Hit me with the ball, bro.
DJ Wells
Well, you had to work on like some. One kid. One kid we had at practice one day. I was like, yo, when he come off of here, just throw a lob. He said, I can't throw lobs. I said, you can't throw a live. He was like, no, I don't know. I throw a live. I'm like, that's all. And one with us though. We see him throw live. We trying to throw it off the backboard. We trying.
Mook
Yeah. No looks.
T
No look. Off the backboard of the fast break.
DJ Wells
Crazy. Come on, bro.
Bishop
You got to have silly time in the.
DJ Wells
Yeah, you work on all your stuff that way.
Mook
We had that and we had NBA streets. All that. That just translates to the video game we draw, bro. Yeah, it's a delay with these kids, man.
Bishop
Yeah, it's a delay, bro.
Mook
It's a delay. I never about that. That's the real player development.
DJ Wells
Yeah, you had them. You legit had. You had to try all this stuff against somebody. Yeah, like you had to try throwing no hook pass against somebody. Like you can't just be at home doing it. You had to go try them. No, look past it. And that help with your timing. But these kids never had to experience that. They seen Kyrie and they go outside and they do all the moves. But all our had to. You had to cross somebody or make somebody spin around. You had to try, right? Yeah, bro. The thing is we used to record like somebody have a camera out there. So we trying to make our own M1T. Yeah.
T
Shout out to CP3.
DJ Wells
I had to say. Cuz you probably say Kim Kardashian tape or some.
Mook
I would. I had my own tape. You scrub like, oh, that's me in the room tearing my up. Let me see that laptop real quick.
DJ Wells
Before we get on the subject, who.
T
Is your favorite A1 player? Ali Mo.
Bishop
I love Ali Mo.
DJ Wells
I love AO Alamo too.
T
Yeah. I rocked with hot sauce though, because hot sauce highlights was crazy.
DJ Wells
His was so crazy that like I couldn't even try his in the game.
Mook
No, but he was cheeks though.
Bishop
He was sad. Good hoofer. I like the ones that can hoofer like Rayr Austin. I like the ones that can hoo for me.
Mook
Yes, bro. When Rafer made it to the league, I'm like, oh, this crazy.
Bishop
Yeah, he probably had everybody think that.
DJ Wells
Was gonna make him. It's him.
T
I ain't going lie with him. Volume three. Hot Sauce, bro was the coldest person on earth, bro.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bishop
Now Hot Sauce was clowning.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bishop
I just knew he couldn't hoop.
DJ Wells
Some of his rules was just too crazy like a travel carry.
T
All right, man. Good question for sure. Donald Ghost in the super chat says was gonna ask. Have y' all boys thought about doing a live show during essence Fest that would be lit. We would love to too. We would absolutely love tricky ass older women. Shout out to New Orleans. Beautiful city. One of my favorites. We'll tap in. All right. Stevie V says, teague, I know you've.
DJ Wells
Been in the gym.
T
Heavy wish. I work out and eating regimen. I work out and I'm trying to get bigger pause love y' all should have been watching this and jump shout out to you.
DJ Wells
Tap into my cousin Coach Brandon. Motivate. Yeah. We do some off the court session spoils in the weight room with him. If you tap into our YouTube, you can check him out. He'll have all the routines put up for us. Be him and on his journey.
Mook
Motivated fitness.
T
Yeah. Shout out to motivated fitness, man, they got some virtual plans for you. You can pull up even if you ain't here. Shout out to Coach B. All right. Bobby B O says B zero. Excuse me. When the next be experienced so I can pull up my bucks. Cream City Tea judging my flare jeans and the black horse with the white laces. That's an outfit.
Mook
Murphy. Man, if you say bro, they won't let you in.
T
Bob Murphy says y' all probably disgusting, but DJ Knight radio boys changing Jay was hilarious. Joe Budden PO with y' all was fire. Hey, man, shout out to Jay, man. I heard B hit was going crazy. Shout out to the JVP dope episode. Man, it's on that Patreon tap in for sure.
Mook
I was loving that episode for sure. Yeah, you caught me falling asleep at the end of that mother.
DJ Wells
Yeah, he was knocked up.
T
Boy, the zoom in is crazy. Jamal Walker says, would y' all trade D Fox and myself for Lamelo? No, no, no.
Mook
Hell no.
T
Absolutely not.
DJ Wells
No.
T
M. Buck the ape says Jeff, do you remember 09 draft class alumni Tywe McKee? I met him at a park in Philly the other day and he funny as hell.
DJ Wells
No.
T
Okay, let's Google search this gentleman.
DJ Wells
I believe McKee.
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Mook
I thought that was special. Damn, Woody.
DJ Wells
I don't know, bro. Damn.
T
Copper State.
DJ Wells
Man.
Mook
He was a bucket 17 or 41% Taiwane 18 I respect.
DJ Wells
Yeah, definitely.
Mook
Shout out to Taiwan.
T
Shout out to him for sure.
DJ Wells
I don't remember him though.
T
Catch a kill says Freaky Mike. Show a video of pitching from behind the play angle. Jet not hitting a ball fast as they throw. You can't even see the ball.
DJ Wells
Yeah, they.
T
They doubting your ability, you know what I'm saying? To make contact at the plate, man.
DJ Wells
And I probably can't, but I. I don't. Okay, cool.
T
He said that speech. All right, let's go to the NFL, man. Travis Hunter, wide receiver 1 CB 3. How you feeling B Here.
Mook
I told y'.
DJ Wells
All. All right. Corner. Yeah.
Mook
Don't let him try, y'.
DJ Wells
All.
Mook
They gonna let him try. What?
DJ Wells
Horrible.
Mook
Let me get out here and showcase if I can do it or not and if I can't. All right, cool. But told y'. All.
DJ Wells
You think he'll be a better say he couldn't draw. No.
Mook
Y' all said he not gonna do this in the NFL. The NFL?
Bishop
Who said it's not gonna last long, bro.
DJ Wells
I'm surprised he didn't play corner over receiver.
Bishop
I thought second string corner.
DJ Wells
Yeah. I thought he would be first string corner and second string receiver.
T
Yeah. I thought he get more of a refs corner.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
T
Reps that corner. We'll see. Obviously. I'm happy he gets the opportunity to even show it. Like you said, the team definitely ain't that good that they can give him a try.
Mook
Like I agree with y'.
DJ Wells
All.
Mook
It probably.
Bishop
It's.
DJ Wells
It's hard.
Mook
I agree. But bro, he on the Jaguars. Bro gives a bro.
T
Yeah. I definitely think that he'll probably be a better defender than wide receiver. But hey, he's. He's talented, man. I hope he gets a chance to do good above for sure. Shout out to my dog. All right, man. Shador QB4 going to the preseason. Yeah. That Browns QB lock.
Mook
He's a. I understand that but I'm saying like you. He's not getting in you headset you.
DJ Wells
No, no, no street clothes.
Mook
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like I understand. So you don't even get the head, you know.
DJ Wells
Ye boy, I. He can get hurt. He can get hurt. He can get hurt and then I'm coming in.
Mook
I understand you. I'm saying on the side of that.
DJ Wells
They might. They might tell me. They tell me you have a chain on that. Me stay at home, bro.
Bishop
Yeah, he might not.
T
He g have a brown hoodie on, but that. That QB is so messed up. It's. People hurt. That bar there. Somebody else over here. Yeah. I. I don't like it.
Bishop
He can't be this sad, though.
DJ Wells
I'm out. They said he be playing with.
Bishop
So what's the problem?
Mook
They got you up.
DJ Wells
They do? Who do like them?
T
Who?
DJ Wells
You said they like, don't like them.
T
No, they don't.
DJ Wells
I.
T
I ain't really want to rock with you, but I had to.
DJ Wells
That's.
T
That's. That's enough right there.
Mook
For you to say that in the media is very, very dis.
Bishop
I need to get off this.
Mook
Y' all talk about that off the cameras, bro. Don't do me like that.
T
He might 1000% feel that way, but he can most certainly can't say that right now.
DJ Wells
Would say a word.
T
He can't say nothing with sucks.
DJ Wells
He just got deal with it. This all come back from how he started the whole process. You just gotta be cool, fam. That was a scary thing about Ace Bailey. I was praying that they ain't try to Ace Bailey do Ace Bailey like this. Obviously his talent was way more superior than Shador. But they trying to humble him. Yeah. If he would have just been cool, he would just did all the process threw at the combine.
Bishop
Humble me.
T
Me?
DJ Wells
Why I can't your daddy sister. We couldn't humble your daddy.
Mook
That's why I told y in the beginning, bro. That's why I knew Kim world wasn't going to have the same type of treatment as him, bro. Cuz he a trench baby. He grateful for everything. Say all the right. The number one pick.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
T
Like you said, they. He's even some of that. The hate towards Dion. He catching residuals for that. And like you said, the way he went about it, they don't like that. They don't want people to fall in the footsteps. They want anybody who might look like him act that way. Know this is what's gonna happen to you. So you better fall in line up.
DJ Wells
You know what Deion did on his. His combine? Yeah. Yeah.
Mook
And even told them things. Y' all better not pick me.
DJ Wells
Yeah. In the 90s, he was a superior athlete, though. Yeah. Yeah. There was nothing you could. You couldn't deny his talent. You could deny this.
T
Yeah.
DJ Wells
Like you ain't a superior. You ain't no crazy athlete. Yeah. You a pocket Passer, but I. Which you can find.
Mook
I understand.
DJ Wells
Like, you know what I mean?
Mook
I understand that, bro.
DJ Wells
But.
Mook
But I don't know. Like, he's. He is cocky, confident, but Jesus Christ, bro. Yeah, y' all already damn near didn't pick me at all.
Bishop
Now y' all gonna keep.
Mook
Then you treat me like this in the media. I'm coming to practice every day.
DJ Wells
Yeah, he ain't doing nothing wrong.
Mook
Oh, God.
T
Let off a little and. And respect to that team. They got Miles Garbo, but every clip I see in that social, it should door, they milking it.
DJ Wells
I just don't.
Bishop
I just don't like me, bro.
DJ Wells
Hey, they don't. They don't like him now. It's a agenda on him now. But he. He brought it. He kind of brought it on himself a little bit. If he would have went. Not to say, like, go against your pops or nothing, but he would have just went his own route.
Bishop
Pops turn up.
DJ Wells
But I chill. I'm chill. Like, I'm lamelo. Like, my pops do all this, but I'm just chilling, Lonzo. I'm just chilling. I can't control him. Yeah, I'm chilling. I'm at every interview, I'm doing this.
Bishop
He was trying to act like them.
DJ Wells
Yeah. He was like, yeah, I'mma change everything when I get there. It went from imma change everything to I'm just happy to be here. Like, yeah, it should have been there from the beginning. I get it. Yeah.
T
It ain't fair. And it's messed up because they said in the tone, let's see him pass him. But it's just a nasty situation how.
Bishop
He was raised, though, bro. He come up under Dion, bro. This is what we do. We turn up. I can't.
DJ Wells
But I don't even know if that's how. I don't even know if that was really him because, like, he out there doing his. You gotta think. I'm saying he was turned. But you gotta think when he went to. Out of high school, he wasn't like that. That. Yeah.
Mook
But Jeff saying, if you gonna do all this, you damn got to be cam new.
DJ Wells
You do. Yeah. You gotta be a superior.
Mook
That's the disconnect.
Bishop
They was trying to push it like.
T
He was cam new.
DJ Wells
You got him.
Mook
But the professionals know if you bring a kid and the watch, like, let him play against y', all, y' all gonna know. Y' all don't give a how lit somebody.
Bishop
Yeah, for sure.
Mook
You talk about Mikey Williams all the time. Just respect. But it's a difference. Like, and hype. Everyone really don't know the game.
T
See you.
Mook
It's like, damn. Nah, I don't know know.
DJ Wells
They did. No disrespect to them. They did a great job. They just promoted themselves very well. Like.
Bishop
And he was doing numbers.
DJ Wells
He was doing numbers. He's a good player. But I'm saying, the way they promoted it was, like, as high as your.
Mook
Ego is, you have to be like, the next coming of Jesus Christ.
Bishop
Travis Hunter.
DJ Wells
Yeah. Like, say nothing. Yeah, yeah. He at the same place. I'm at the same place. And I ain't say the word. I'm doing all the corny. I'm dancing with people corny.
Bishop
They just different.
DJ Wells
Different. Yeah. But, like, that ain't really. I ain't saying that ain't Shador, but that really ain't Shador. You know, I think Mike and Amy, Shador. You weren't even like. Like, Travis Hunter was like that out of high school. Yeah, I was the number one player in the country.
Mook
Yeah.
DJ Wells
Shadow was 380.
T
He grinded.
DJ Wells
You know what I'm saying? So it's like, yo, your beginning should be even different because you really wasn't like that. You was humble. You should be like, yo, I worked hard. I got where I'm at.
Bishop
Like, I get what y' all said. Talent, it don't match.
DJ Wells
Yeah, Like, Travis. Travis H. Was like, I'm the best in the world. Yeah, you've been that.
Mook
Travis Hunter was doing this. You ain't been like, all right, we still gonna get you.
DJ Wells
Yeah. Like, chill out now. But you know. Yeah, chill out now. You still number one pick.
Mook
I agree with that wholeheartedly.
Bishop
Like, okay, Ace Bailey. Perfect.
DJ Wells
Yeah, yeah, relax now. He still top five. Earlier, we was gonna get you at three. That. You gonna go five now. Now we was gonna get you at three dot you going in the eighth round.
Mook
But they did my boy Greasy.
DJ Wells
They did.
Mook
I ain't gonna lie, bro.
DJ Wells
They. He still.
T
It ain't right.
Bishop
He still.
Mook
I've never seen nobody get treated like this, bro.
Bishop
He still.
DJ Wells
That's what I'm telling, cuz. His talent wasn't superior, bro. Like, he. Like, if he had. He ran a four, a four, three.
T
Somebody would have went against the gr.
DJ Wells
That would.
Bishop
Somebody been like, all right, he's throwing.
T
A ball like that.
Bishop
The charts.
DJ Wells
Yeah. He don't got nothing that's off the charts.
T
The GMs, we rock with him, but we don't feel like he gonna change our franchise enough to go against this program. Because if we go against this program, we're gonna have to deal with the repercussions.
Bishop
And daddy coming. Woody.
DJ Wells
At some point. Now, if he was 63 running a 4 3, throwing that ball like that. Yeah. With the number one thing. Let me figure this out.
Mook
But I feel like y' all right. But I feel like now I'm in practice, we in training camp or whatever we doing, and I'm showing y'.
DJ Wells
All.
Mook
I'm probably showing y' all that I'm better than these. This number three, at least.
DJ Wells
Trust me. Yeah.
Mook
With me, bro.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
T
We don't like.
Bishop
Damage is done for what we don't like. Basically done, bro. We don't like your family.
T
I don't like you or your daddy.
Bishop
So we know clearly better than everybody here, then it's over.
DJ Wells
Yeah. Yeah.
T
What was just a short man. He deserves opportunity.
DJ Wells
But you know what's gonna happen in.
T
The locker room, bro. Kenny Picket, Joe Flacco. You know what's gonna happen. Everybody gonna get hurt, and it's gonna be Chador. That first he.
Bishop
They think he cocky down.
DJ Wells
Oh, he gonna show it. Oh, he ain't gonna to do it.
Bishop
When he get paid. Oh, he gonna act a fool.
DJ Wells
He ain't gonna do it. He g. He gonna. I think he learned it. I think he learned it now. Like, hey, yeah, for you be treated.
Bishop
Like this, you might want that chicken, bro. The money, it don't matter, cuz.
DJ Wells
You know, you would think you about to get paid, be like, nah, wait.
Bishop
T. Get paid T. He gonna be.
T
Malik right on the game.
Mook
Well, he better look like Thomas Brady. Straight up, bro.
Bishop
These kind of stories be working out, bro.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I think he going. I think he just g. I think he gonna kill and he just gonna chill like this is what to try to be the best quarterback I could be. Do that, bro.
Bishop
Turn. Turn up, man.
DJ Wells
You up, bro. That's what everybody wants you to do, bro.
Mook
So do.
DJ Wells
That's what they say.
Mook
Everybody wants you to get off your block.
DJ Wells
Stay locked in. Stay locked in, bro.
Bishop
They want, you know, crashing out.
DJ Wells
They want you to crash out, bro. Stay locked in. Hey, man.
T
Shout out to Shador made for sure MLB scores. Let's get to it. Astros took care of the Mars yesterday, 8 to 10.
Bishop
2.
T
The Tigers defeated Twins 6 to 3. The Pirates defeated the Giants close from 5 to 4. And the Phillies beat the sleaze off the Orioles yesterday 13. Oh, excuse three. Kyle Swer with a crazy home run yesterday. Hold up to Drake, bro.
DJ Wells
Is there any retired baseball players that can hit us up.
T
Wow. You know what this is? Second home run game, bro. MVP, chess.
Mook
We need somebody from the Indian.
DJ Wells
Andy.
T
Number 40 on the year with a grand slam. That is crazy.
DJ Wells
Any retired baseball players in Indiana that would love to come chop it up with us? We a lot of let you be our MLB analyst.
T
Come tap in, come have some fun. For sure.
Bishop
Who you think gonna win it out this year?
T
Man, you gotta give me another month, man. But it's, it's, it's. It's tough right now. It's tough right now. It's a couple things. I feel like the Tigers definitely can make a run.
DJ Wells
Let's go, Marlon.
Bishop
Hoping Detroit been hooping.
T
They have, man.
DJ Wells
Let's go, Mar.
T
I had put my money on somebody being the Marlins. You rocking in with them?
DJ Wells
Yeah, they had a good moment.
T
I ain't mad at him.
DJ Wells
Is that that one website? That's that website. I do it. He watch it. We be watching, bro. My bad, bro.
Mook
Cheeks.
DJ Wells
The real grass laugh.
Mook
Absolutely tapped on Twitter, right?
DJ Wells
Yeah, Twitter got that too.
T
Your Twitter got that?
DJ Wells
Yeah, that's.
Mook
That's the best.
T
Shout out to Twitter for show X. Excuse me. The guard securing the message 76 but Peter ls a home run was fire. Anyway. Let's see it. Boy. Where yard There's a lot.
DJ Wells
Of Brandon HE H2.
Mook
What was that? What that?
T
Play it again.
DJ Wells
Foul. My boy turned up his head. Probably red as hell though.
Mook
Y' all trying to predict some that ain't there, bro.
T
We ain't gonna damn all the people.
Mook
That was in my DMS look. Stupid ass calling in the polo Chilling. Don't need no glove.
Bishop
That's lame.
Mook
I don't think that that is lame. To bring a glove to the field.
DJ Wells
You just need your gloves.
Mook
Walking around with a baseball glove.
T
If you bring a bat to the.
Mook
Game, you need around gains bridge dribbling the ball. What the are you about to do?
DJ Wells
Little kids, little kids do that all the time. La bro.
T
Oh man.
Mook
That's crazy.
DJ Wells
Hey, bring the basketball so you can sign it.
Mook
Respect, bro.
T
Shout out to Kono man. Shout out the guards from getting the dub. Anyways, Red Sox took care of The Royals yesterday 8 to 5. BR took care of Braves yesterday 3 to 1.
DJ Wells
BRS no more day.
T
Get well on that. Reds defeated the Cubs Just say three two in a close one. And the Rangers took care of the Yankees yesterday eight to five. Yankees on a five game losing Yankees.
DJ Wells
Yankees they slide.
T
That's the second time. But Josh Young with a walk off home run went crazy.
DJ Wells
Got telling me I can't get fatigue.
T
Get real disrespectful. Get real disrespectful. Walk off home run.
DJ Wells
Just do it.
Bishop
You think.
DJ Wells
He would have tripped me? Yeah, I swing. I don't like me.
T
Wait, I thought you was a fan of B flip.
DJ Wells
It is, but I'm just saying if I'm the. If I'm the pitcher. Oh, I'm offended.
Bishop
Throw a better pitch.
DJ Wells
Like if he do this, watch it like you know he just said disrespectful.
T
We out of here, bro.
Mook
I with that. That's swaggy, right?
T
I just beat the Yankees on a walk off home run.
Bishop
I broke my back.
Mook
That's fire.
Bishop
Had to get fine.
T
Yeah, we out of here. Back, baby. Hey, if you trip somebody running the base, they're going suspend you for they all start fighting. Oh, man. The Blue Jays beat the limit sleeves off The Rockies yesterday 15 to 1.
DJ Wells
Rockies back down to death, man.
T
Yeah, man. And they still not going to ass for sure. Angels took care of the race yesterday five to one. My Diamondbacks took care of business yesterday against the Padres 6 to 2. And last I'm certain, not least made the Cardinals and the Dodgers and the close one three to two.
DJ Wells
It's like every team in baseball play every, every day.
T
Yeah, bro.
DJ Wells
Like golly, did anybody get a break?
T
Nah, bro, they get paid.
DJ Wells
Hands up for that breaks, bro.
Bishop
Give me 200.
DJ Wells
300 million.
T
Yeah, bro. Y', all. They play 200 games, bro. Shout out to the MLB for sure. All right. WNBA games tonight. We got the Wings at Liberty. I'm expecting the Liberty to get that one. But we shall see the Mystics at the sky. The sky ain't trying to win right now. Angel Reese is still out, so probably the mix. Mystics, Fever and Sparks. What's up? What's up, man?
DJ Wells
I ain't a sports fan no more.
T
I forgot that fever, bro.
Mook
Yeah, I'm rolling with my fever, but them records is crazy, bro.
T
1712 WNBA. The Sparks roster should be way better than what they at. But I'm going right with the Fever, sun and Mercury. I'm definitely going with the Mercury. US owns the connected Sun. 5 and 23 go.
DJ Wells
My team. Links, baby.
T
Links in the storm. Who you rolling with?
DJ Wells
Okay, that's my team.
T
They just got Dejana Carrington too. They rolling up, you know what I'm saying? For a championship. I don't know about AV Fee. Hopefully she's well. You know, she got injured this past weekend. Prayers up for her. We got one more question before we get out of here. All right, man. Justin Boulevard says love the pod T. You being an amazing mentor. Ever considering coaching in the league. Also, let's be real, Melo was a beast, but his career was overhyped. Way greater than Melo.
DJ Wells
That's a good. That's a take by you, brother.
T
Yes, sir.
DJ Wells
I like D. Wade and I like Melo. Both of them, man. Both icons, both living legends. Yeah, Yeah.
T
I won't say mellow careers over hype. That's from Mellow Anthony.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I don't know what the hype was about, but. All right.
T
Not for sure. All right, man. One more time for Boost Mobile. Boost Mobile. You know the vibes. $25 unlimited nationwide tap in boost mobile. Tell them Club 520 sent you. Shout out to the Twitch man. M you on the games this week. What's up man? Madden mouth to come out. You ready?
DJ Wells
I'm locked in.
T
Okay, you got fight then.
DJ Wells
No.
T
Okay, get what's on the mouth man. Listen, we appreciate y'. All. We'll be back tomorrow. 5:20 in the morning.
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Club Shay Shay - Episode 520 Summary
Title: 520 in the Morning - Jeff Teague REACTS to De'Aaron Fox's MASSIVE Deal with Spurs, John Wall on NBA PGs
Release Date: August 5, 2025
Host: DJ Wells, Mook, T, and Bishop
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts and Shay Shay Media
In Episode 520 of Club Shay Shay, the hosts—DJ Wells, Mook, T, and Bishop—dive deep into the latest NBA developments, focusing primarily on Jeff Teague’s reaction to De’Aaron Fox’s substantial contract with the San Antonio Spurs and John Wall’s perspectives on the evolving role of point guards in the NBA.
The episode opens with a heated discussion about De’Aaron Fox's recent four-year, $229 million deal with the Spurs. The hosts explore the mixed sentiments surrounding this significant investment.
DJ Wells (07:53): "He's 26 and like 7 or something like that. Young, bro."
Emphasizes Fox’s youth and potential longevity with the team.
Mook (08:35): "He's elite."
Affirms Fox's elite status warranting such a lucrative contract.
Despite some backlash questioning the Spurs’ decision to overpay, the consensus among the hosts is that Fox’s talent and potential justify the investment.
The conversation also touches on the Spurs’ roster management, debating who might be benched or moved to accommodate Fox’s role.
Shifting focus, the hosts discuss John Wall’s commentary on the transformation of point guards in the NBA. Wall posits that traditional "pure" point guards, who primarily facilitate the game, are becoming rarer as the role now demands greater scoring abilities.
T (55:09): "John Wall was a bucket. I mean, he did always have high assists as well, but nah."
Highlights Wall's dual role in scoring and assisting.
DJ Wells (57:10): "Tyrese Halliburton is like loved so much by purists of basketball who watch the game like, oh my God. I love how Tyrese play because he gets everybody involved and it reminds them of when they used to watch Magic Johnson and Stockton and all these guys."
Wall’s insights spark a debate on whether modern point guards should prioritize scoring or continue to focus on facilitating their teammates.
The hosts reflect on historical point guards like Chris Paul and Kyrie Irving, discussing the balance between scoring and playmaking.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing the Spurs' current roster and potential starting lineups post-Fox's acquisition. The hosts debate the best combinations to maximize the team's performance, considering player strengths and possible injuries.
Mook (05:43): "I don't know who do that."
Refers to a player's unique athleticism and contributions.
DJ Wells (07:40): "He can finish at the rim with the best of them."
The discussion includes potential lineup configurations, the impact of players like Dylan Harper, Stefan Castle, and the importance of having reliable shooters to complement Fox.
The hosts express optimism about the Spurs' ability to remain competitive, even if key players are injured or traded.
Throughout the episode, hosts engage with listeners’ questions and comments submitted via Super Chat. Topics range from player comparisons to personal anecdotes related to basketball experiences.
DJ Wells shares personal reflections on the importance of watching film and physical training, emphasizing lessons learned from past experiences.
Beyond the NBA, the hosts briefly touch upon other sports, including MLB and WNBA, sharing scores and expressing hopes for upcoming games. However, the primary focus remains on basketball.
As the episode nears its end, hosts recap the discussions, reaffirming their support for key players and looking forward to future NBA seasons with excitement. They also promote upcoming podcast episodes and encourage listener participation.
Episode 520 of Club Shay Shay offers an in-depth analysis of significant NBA trades and player roles, enriched by passionate discussions and listener engagement. The hosts provide valuable insights into team dynamics, player performance, and the evolving nature of basketball positions, making it a must-listen for NBA enthusiasts.