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Debo
Yeah, I'm just, you know, like I said, I'm. I was just reading into the statement. You know what I'm saying? When you read and people say things, words mean things, Joe. And, you know, when you say, you know better off if his father, Dion, leaves well enough alone. What's well enough alone? What are you saying? That, you know, that he needs to leave alone? Because it's enough. It's well enough now without you. Just leave it alone. Don't say nothing. What? That makes me think you might know something. What is he getting at? I don't know.
Joe
What do you think he's getting at?
Debo
I don't know, Joe. I feel like he. I feel like he might have some inside information that he's not really letting out that I don't know. Like, hey, Joe. If I say, hey, Joe, man, listen, man. Hey, bruh, you got you beefing with so and so, but I know this dude maybe out of his mind. He a killer. He ain't got no sense in what he feels is actually. A equal response to whatever it is you did. He the type of cat that you went and you. You. You kicked something on his tire, and he may come through and blow your house. I'm gonna say, joe, man, leave well enough alone, bro. Let that ride,
Joe
okay? No, I feel you, but look, this is the same thing. Like, what if he out. He. What if he don't know nothing and he's just saying that you're his dad. Leave it alone. Get out the way. You're messing up his opportunity. Coach don't want to talk to you.
Debo
Yeah, but you're saying, leave well enough alone. It's well enough right now. Just leave it alone. You're not saying, hey, leave it alone. Get out the way. Let him go. Leave well enough alone.
Joe
Yeah, well enough is throwing me off, okay?
Debo
That's what I'm saying. Joe, you got to read into this. Like, I'm a thinker. I think about things, man. Like, I'm an overthinker sometimes, too. You know what I'm saying? But that's a good thing, because I done thought about everything that you thinking about, and then I thought about the response to the response that you was thinking. Then I'm thinking about the response that I'm thinking. But if you don't come with that response, you come with the other response. I'm thinking, you go, come with Joe. I'm like Coach LeBeau. Hey.
Joe
Oh, yeah, yeah, the double and triple reverse.
Debo
What are we talking about, baby? That's what I'm talking about sometimes you can add something into it. Sometimes you could take something out of it. Sometimes there's nothing there. But when you stay, things like this. Leave well enough alone. Hey, my son come up to me. Hey, dad, man, can I. Can I stay out till. Till one o'?
Joe
Clock?
Debo
Da, da, da. Man, it's the weekend. I'm trying to, you know. Da, da, da. Yeah, son, that's good. It's good. Oh, man, dad is really going down. Can I stay till 2? Leave well enough alone, son, Because I might kick you back to 12
Joe
talking to Brown like that. You can't. Yeah, that's just crazy.
Debo
I don't want to start. Listen, man, I don't want to start new over there in Cleveland because we know they started nothing.
Joe
Don't worry about it. We gotta. We got a good. We got a quarterback situation going on over there. Everybody's worried about it. We're gonna be good.
Debo
Hey, man, I'm just saying, man, I don't want to start. No starting, no
Joe
go see what's going on out there, Joe.
Debo
Speaking of not starting. No, though. I don't want to start. No. But they say. They say A.J. a.J. Brown did not attend the boy. Sorry, I'm reversed it. Jalen hurts didn't attend A.J. brown's wedding. Right. What that means is there's something there. We just.
Joe
Nothing.
Debo
They just reading into it.
Joe
Nothing. It's got everybody bad schedules are crazy. And that is A.J. brown's day, you know, if you can make it.
Debo
Why it hurts a 10, though.
Joe
Because, man, he got. Man, he's scared. That's a busy man.
Debo
You busy.
Joe
That's a busy man. AJ Brown didn't schedule how many.
Debo
Joe, how many weddings? How many weddings did your teammates. Did you. Did you not go to a couple, bro.
Joe
And it's been something.
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Debo
I know you told me you had beef with a couple of them.
Joe
None. No beef. No beef. No beef. Just. Just scheduling. No.
Debo
Leave well enough alone. You telling me leave well enough alone?
Joe
Leave well enough alone. Deebo. Just scheduling purposes. I don't think it's nothing. I'm not diving into it because I really think that's A.J. brown's day. He set up the wedding day. Sometimes schedules don't match up.
Debo
Sometimes. I mean, one day. One day, Joe. You can't make it one day for you. We don't want a Super bowl together, Joe.
Joe
Is it a destination? I don't know how far it is. We don't know.
Debo
So we don't want to go together, though.
Joe
What we gon do, he might be contractually obligated to not show up. No. To be elsewhere, like with a contract. He got big brands. Jalen hurts got big brands that he got to be worried about. Jordan deal, big money, got some stuff got going on. He might have had to do some signings, might do some appearances. You never know. It's off season. When did you tell me about the wedding?
Debo
I'm just saying, man. Listen, man.
Joe
Did I get invited to the wedding? There we go. Everybody all in. What's going on?
Debo
Oh, so you saying he didn't even get an invite?
Joe
I did not say that. I did not say that.
Debo
Hey, Joe, I ain't gonna lie to you, bro. I ain't gonna be messy. I ain't gonna be messy at all. Cause, hey, bro, I. I ain't. I ain't been. I ain't been to not one of my. Not one of my teammates. Weddings. I don't think so, bro. I. I ain't. I ain't. Listen, I ain't. No, I take that back. I take that back. I did go to Ben's wedding. I went to Ben's wedding. But the reason I've been to Ben's wedding is because it was here in Pittsburgh. I am not traveling nowhere to go to a wedding. Listen, you can invite me. I'm gonna hit your registry. I'm gonna get you. I'm gonna get you something, you know what I'm saying? I'm gonna scoop up enough pennies, you know what I'm saying? Do what I gotta do to find some money to get you something, you know what I'm saying? But I ain't showing up, because if I even got a workout that I'm a miss, and I can't do everything, I need to do Debo. At wherever you're at to. To. To go to your wedding, bro, I'm sorry. It's your day. It is about you. Me being there is not going to affect you in any way, shape or form. And if it does, you got a problem.
Joe
That's why I appreciate us talking about this, okay?
Debo
I am not coming. I'm sorry. I had teammates getting married and all that. Like, I went to Ben's. It was perfect. I literally had to go two exits down the road. Other than that, I ain't went to nobody else's wedding.
Joe
I've been, though. I've been. I've been in the couple. I've been to TJ's out in Mexico. That joint was fire.
Debo
Like, I ain't.
Joe
But I feel you, Debo. I feel.
Debo
Listen, I ain't gonna lie to you man. I just got to the point. I just got to the point. I've been telling hey man, don't even invite me man. I ain't gonna lie to you. I ain't gonna come. Just let me know what you need on the resume, man. I don't even waste the money on the invitation. Cause y' all be spending big money on the invitation.
Joe
Yeah. Yep. You could just respect with the RSVPs, you know what I'm saying? Just be respectful with RCP. Let them know ah came to 10 but send something nice. Boop.
Debo
Yeah, keep it moving man. Keep it moving.
Joe
Respectfully, brother.
Debo
Whoa. It says former Jaguars head coach Urban Meyer, oh Lord has lost his grievance against the team seeking more than 30 million in unpaid salary. That is from Brett McMurphy. What in the world? Urban Meyer ain't coached since when that
Joe
was back in the God. He was with the Jags for that time, man.
Debo
Okay, it says they're firing him or they fired him on December 16, 2021, 11 months after he was hired after a 2 and 11 record, multiple off field incidents, and kicking and kicker Josh Lambo allegedly alleging that Mike that Myers kicked him in the leg while he was stretching in warm ups before practice during the week of the final preseason game. What the flip? It says Lambo filed a lawsuit against Meyer and the Jaguars in May of 2022 alleging Myers created a hostile work environment and the team did nothing to stop. What? Hey Joe. He would later voluntarily Amazon Health AI
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Debo
Dismiss all charges against the Jaguars with prejudice. And that was just February of this year. But his Case against Myers is still pending in Duval county court records and a trial is set for August 3rd.
Joe
Bro.
Debo
Bruh, this sound. This sounds fishy, man.
Joe
Is that the one? That's for August 3rd. Is that for the.
Debo
That's for the actual. That's for just Myers. The dude dropped his.
Joe
I know. That's what I'm saying. Is that just.
Debo
Just Myers, Just Meyer? Yeah.
Joe
Okay.
Debo
Dude, he dropped the charges that he had against the Jags and Myers kept the charges for Meyer and I don't know, Joe, that sounds fishy to me. Listen, you know me, Joe. Now I'm thinking, my wheels are spinning, Joe. My wheels spin. Why you go drop the charges against the bigger, bigger conglomerate that's a multi billion dollar company.
Joe
That makes me that man took his. Man taking it personal.
Debo
Huh? Huh? Now hold up, hold up. Maybe. Maybe he could be taking it personal. Yeah, or maybe. Or maybe, like I said, I'm just thinking outside the box under this. I'm. This. I'm alleging that things could possibly happen that maybe the Jaguars got a hold of. Of Lambo and said, hey, look here, you drop this on us, we slide you maybe, oh, maybe three, four, nearly. And in that process, it allows us to not pay him 30. I'm just saying. It's been other things that, you know, I'm just saying, like that's what makes me think. Because I think. I think everywhere I'm here, I'm there and on top of it, on top of it. Hey, you ain't got to drop the one on Meyer. You can keep that. Let us up out of it. We slide you a little something and you can still go and double back and get that personal hit on him for putting his hands on you. I'm just saying. What's your thoughts, Joe?
Joe
I'm just. I love Curse my eye. That's my dog. He coached me at Florida. So this is just a.
Debo
It's just what kind of. What kind of. Joe, that's great. That's great. Joe kind of coach. It's urban. Is he the type of guy that would walk around and just kick somebody? Oh, that's not a good response, Joe.
Joe
Back in the day, I ain't never seen him kick nobody. I never seen him kick nobody. Never seen kick nobody.
Debo
I said, is he the kind of coach? Okay. I mean, the pause is gone now, but I think it was a delay of thought because we know, we know how Joe responds when he's got to think. But it's okay. It's okay, because you said he's never kicked Anyone, obviously. Obviously, it's been some things that you might have seen that you was like, yo, that's a little questionable because your pause.
Joe
That was back in the day, you know? Yeah.
Debo
Pause told me that Gated Gators, well, this was back in the day. I think this was 21. As soon as he got through with, I believe, the Gators, he come fresh into the NFL.
Joe
Yeah, it was a. Yeah, it was a while. Yeah, he had a. He had a. He had a real good. He had a straight up aggressive coaching style, but he never touched nobody.
Debo
Okay. Okay.
Joe
So more mental.
Debo
I. I understand what you're saying, but you got to realize when. When people get excited and they get frustrated, the first thing that get going is your hands. You get animated. And then if you're getting something that you're not expecting to get or is against what you're doing and you're getting pushback, then it may turn to physical. I'm just, you know, I'm just shooting it out there from the. The psychology of how the hands work. I don't know. I don't know. Like you said, when you're an aggressive coach, you know, you may.
Joe
No, you may.
Debo
You may get, you know, aggressive tendencies.
Joe
Might have just been planning. Like he said it was in the stretch.
Debo
I just can't see you kicking somebody. I ain't gonna lie, baby.
Joe
It wasn't probably like a. Like, didn't. Like he was stretching.
Debo
Who was the Lambo dude, though?
Joe
Kicker.
Debo
Like, where is he? Where is he? Where is he from? Like, who was. He said it was the final.
Joe
It was a kicker. It was a kicker.
Debo
Debo practice from the final preseason game. Obviously he didn't make the team.
Joe
Think he might have just been like, man, you. You just out here, just kick me. Just mess with.
Debo
He might have gave him an A. Come on. Just like. Like one of those. I just don't see you. You can't put your feet on somebody, dude. You can't do that.
Joe
Hey, look, while you're out there stretching
Debo
the whole team, spitting and kicking, spitting and kicking, you can't do that. Spitting is the worst. You should be able to kill somebody for spitting on you.
Joe
Oh, Lord.
Debo
I'm saying this should be legal recourse,
Joe
so keep a spit to yourself.
Debo
Yes. Like, and if he did kick him, depending on. It don't matter even how he kicked him, though, because that is. That's like. That's assault. So if I'm getting cut and I ain't got no other choice, maybe he. I need to figure out somebody need to figure out who is Josh Lambeau, where he's at, what is he doing now since the 2021 season. I need to know.
Joe
I'm gonna call Herb. Well, I get trying to figure out Herb.
Debo
Can't say nothing, man. He still got to pin the case. He going to trial. August. August 3rd, man.
Joe
Okay.
Debo
It looked like they say trial set for August 3rd, so he can't. Can't be doing no talking. Call him. Call him August 4th and let me know if the set. If it's settled. After it gets settled, let me know. We're gonna figure it out, Joe. Okay. I just don't see. I don't. You know how you would like to kick some like. Like you're not go. I don't understand that one. But I also. You had the one coach that was over there in Arizona that gave old dude all the work, and he ain't do nothing. That was in a game, live, frustrated action you ain't did. Listen, you don't do that on game day. If you ain't did that in practice, that's something he done did somewhere else. You know what I'm saying? I don't. I don't start off being. You know. Yeah. I don't start off kicking ass and being so comfortable with it that I decided to do it on game day. No, I didn't practice that, like, everywhere.
Joe
That's for sure. In training camp.
Debo
Listen, something happened because they. They got him for. Cause, brother, they got him for calls. That's why he wasn't. That's why they were able to deny the 30 million.
Joe
Yeah. So something.
Debo
And whatever the off field incidents are. I don't even know what the multiple off field incidents. I don't know, Joe. I'm just. I'm just reporting the news. I'm just.
Joe
I'm just.
Debo
I'm just showing what they said. I'm just reading what I saw, man.
Joe
They ain't gonna give him his dirty because they said they. They fired him for cause. So, hey, it's. Then the man got him. Now my man's trying to. The punter trying to sue. So we gonna see what it do.
Debo
They said, don't lie, Joe. People said, don't lie. They said, hey, I need. Hey, kiss my. Yeah, I ain't gonna say it. Dark side of the Moon. I read how I read. Y' all just deal with it. If you don't like it, take your punk ass off the show.
Joe
Let him know, Debo, this is what we do.
Debo
We do what we want to do. How we want to do it. Kid rocks you on here because you want to see what we doing. You go sit here and complain. Get your punk ass out the chat. Yeah, they like it when you talk to them like that because now they want to talk more and they want you to see what it is that you. I ain't listening to nothing that you say no more.
Joe
Talk crazy to him.
Debo
Talk. Man. They say yes, Nashville will be getting the Super bowl in 2030, bruh. Like Nashville getting the Super Bowl. I ain't gonna lie to you, man. I done heard too much positive stuff about Nashville. Nashville expected to be named host of Super Bowl 2023 by the NFL owners. They will vote for it the city on today during the spring league meetings. This will be the first time the music city will be host of a Super bowl with the event showcasing the Titans new stadium which is expected to be open in 2027. So they go get a Super bowl there fresh three years right up they new stadium. And I heard too much good stuff about Nashville. I gots to be there, Joe.
Joe
Yes.
Debo
Yes.
Joe
That's what I'm telling you. That's why these teams making that new stadium is incentivizing. Cause the super bowl gonna come to your spot. That's why my good old Browns building that fire stadium just in time, you know what?
Debo
And I'm gonna be there for the opening of it. They want me to be the first person to break ground because it's like home for me. Said I had some of my best gangs against.
Joe
You already missed it. You already missed the garment.
Debo
I missed it.
Joe
Yep, he did.
Debo
Well, I'll be there for the opening. I'll be there for the opening. First game. First game.
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Joe
I ain't going. I've heard nothing but good things about Nashville and I'm just about them boys getting these new stadiums. Do you know if they're going to have grass or turf?
Debo
That I don't know, Joe.
Joe
I will hope.
Debo
I don't know why. It's grass now, right?
Joe
Yes. Yes.
Debo
I don't know why it would not be grass.
Joe
Oh, I hope it. I think I know. I know the Bill's new. I do know Bill's new one is going to be grass, that's for sure. I gotta see if the Titans one because everyone if they build these new,
Debo
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Joe
Billion dollars.
Debo
Listen, you gotta put the roll the field in and out.
Joe
You got so much. Come on, man. You know what it is.
Debo
Take care of your people. Like, y' all make enough money, bro. It ain't about the money thing, bro. Thousand ain't about the money thing. Like, come on now. I mean, it is about the money because y' all trying to hold on to as much of it as you can. I understand, but you still got no players.
Joe
The field part, you got to put that in.
Debo
I keep the product.
Joe
You got to put that. You got to put that in there.
Debo
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Joe
East 10, everybody.
Debo
The crazy thing is 2030 is the last deal under this current collective bargaining agreement.
Joe
Right now them boys still hitting each team getting that check. 400 million in the cap. Three set three, was it? 300 and some. So 75 to the good off rip.
Debo
Like we're trying to. Listen. I'm trying to tell you I'm going to that one, though. I might. I might eat. No, I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna go to the game. Let me stop. But I'm going to Nashville for sure.
Joe
Oh, for sure.
Debo
I gotta see what's Going. And I'm wearing all the country stuff I've got. I'm gonna go get me some boots. I'm gonna go get it, bro. Okay. I'm wearing some tight jeans. So tight, bro. Oh, no.
Joe
Yes. It gotta be that tight. Gotta be crazy tight, bro.
Debo
You gonna see my calves flexing.
Joe
Oh, you gonna have one of the legging jeans.
Debo
Tight, tight jeans, baby.
Joe
Boots, fret boots. Are you gonna have the shirt tucked in? Big belt buckle.
Debo
Big belt buckle. Huge, bro.
Joe
Cowboy hat.
Debo
Cowboy hat.
Joe
Wow.
Debo
Whatever the shirt is that I need to have that say I'm Nashville. I'm Nashville. That's it.
Joe
I'm going to. I'm going to walk 15 to 30, 15 yards behind you and just watch the people that pass you. They gonna be looking back like, hey.
Debo
They're gonna say, hey. Damn, that man looked good.
Joe
Look at that right there. He's the strongest cowboy I've ever seen.
Debo
Ever seen. Ever seen, Joe. What are we talking about?
Joe
You got. I know you got. I know you got cowboy hats already, because I got a lot of cowboys.
Debo
I ain't gonna lie to you, Joe. I don't really have one. I kinda separated a lot of my inventory. But what I'm gonna do though is I'm gonna get me a fit to every kind of event. Now, you know, they got. They got dress boots, they got work boots, they got casual boots, they got dress hat, they got work hat, they got casual hat.
Joe
Yes.
Debo
They got dress jeans, they got casual jeans, they got work jeans. I'm gonna give me one of everything, Joe, if not two. And when I go to these events, Joe, they go, they gonna think I was born and bred right there, right there in Tennessee. Okay.
Joe
No, for sure I'm gonna look like I was ready.
Debo
Matter of fact, bro, I might even make me a nice Debo and Joe buckbell. Wow. You know what I'm saying?
Joe
Okay. Okay.
Debo
Nice one. Say, say Debo and Jonah real big. I'm gonna bring us over shaped like, you know, I'm gonna bring us the fedoras, you know, Might do a little two step and three step kicking. He'll heal. Kicking. Yeah, I'm do it all, Joe. I might even just say the hell wouldn't ride my horse on in town.
Joe
Yes, you go get. You go get your horse from, from. From. For my boy. From Keith.
Debo
No, I'm gonna let James. I'm. Let James ride this out. I'm gonna need. I'm gonna need something with a. With a stronger back. I'm gonna have to get me something that's at least 20, 21 hands, you know. You don't know nothing about that. That's. Yeah, that's measurement of horse, son. It's okay. I teach you something same way I'm gonna teach you how to fish. I'm gonna teach you about these. About these horses and these cows and these stirs and these, these. I'm teach you all about all that before we get on down there to Nashville. Come up.
Joe
I'm gonna teach you about all. I'm gonna teach you about this basketball. I'm gonna teach you about this Euro step. I'm gonna teach you about this sham. Goddamn. I'm gonna teach you about this crossover. Teach you about this euro. Teach you about this floater.
Debo
You go teach me or you go show me people that do it.
Joe
I'm gonna do both. I'm gonna show you my calves do it. And then I'm gonna show you with
Debo
that raggedy hip you got, man, that
Joe
hip is nice and loose right now. Come on, man. You see that? Deep up. Chill out, chill out. I'm a little bit less above the rim. It's more Luca. It's more Luca than Anthony Edwards, but
Debo
I still love the bucket.
Joe
Both of them still averaging 35, and Luca can't barely dunk, so I'm on my Luka Doncic right now.
Debo
Who you shooting over? Impeccable. You know how tall Luca is?
Joe
You, I'm shooting over.
Debo
You ain't shooting over me, Joe. I tower over you.
Joe
I'm shooting over Debo. I'm taller than you.
Debo
Me and you, probably not, Joe.
Joe
We the same height. I might be taller than you.
Debo
Yo, we gonna stand next to each other, man. I'm damn near two and a half, three inches taller than you.
Joe
I'm taller than you.
Debo
No.
Joe
You know yes, I am.
Debo
No, you.
Joe
That's crazy. At worst case, we the same.
Debo
Somebody please pull up. Who's taller? Oh, man, we know who taller. Joe.
Joe
That's crazy.
Debo
Joe. Since when you became six foot, Joe?
Joe
Brother, I'm what?
Debo
Right? I'm six foot.
Joe
No, you are not. You're five eleven, too.
Debo
That's a lie, bro. I'm six.
Joe
You're lying.
Debo
Yo, why is you sitting here?
Joe
Because you, brother, you're getting older.
Debo
I know. I can't. I can't. It's rubbing off on you, bro.
Joe
Do you not know? Do you not know? You start getting shorter as you start getting older, yo, and you're starting getting shorter now. So you're literally. You're 5. You're 5 11. I'm giving you 511 right now.
Debo
Joe, you ain't no. You ain't no spring chicken. You five ten now.
Joe
No, sir.
Debo
What is you talking about? What is you talking about?
Joe
5 11, brother.
Debo
5 11.
Joe
In what world you're wilding the same world that you're six foot.
Debo
I'm six foot in everywhere. I'm six foot on the earth, period, man.
Joe
Listen, somebody pull up, man. I'm gonna get a picture.
Debo
Somebody pull up my.
Joe
Next time I see you. Next time I see you soon. I see you guys. I'm saying, man, take your shoes off, bro. Take your shoes off. I' ma take my shoes off. And then we gonna see who's taller.
Debo
Yes, yes. I'm gonna be taller than you, Joe.
Joe
And then when I'm taller than you. Don't be talking crazy.
Debo
You are. You are taller than I thought, Joe. You're not gonna be.
Joe
Joe, you know what you're gonna tell me. Dang, Joe, you six foot two.
Debo
You not taller than me. You not go be taller than me, Joe. It's not. It's impossibility.
Joe
Let me tell you this.
Debo
You're not. You're.
Joe
You're stronger than me. Your arms are bigger than mine. And I'm taller than you, Joe.
Debo
You're not taller than me, Joe. Can you please look at it? Can you please look at us walking together, Joe? I'm taller than you, Joe. You had on dress shoes too, Joe. Who you. When we was at the draft, you had on dress shoes too, Joe. I was still taller than you, man.
Joe
I had on. Them joints was flat, bruh.
Debo
I was still taller than you. It's okay, Joe. It's okay.
Joe
Like, it's all right.
Debo
You.
Joe
What's up?
Debo
Hey, Chad just said I'm 6 foot. You 5 11. Yahoo. Says Debo 6 foot. Joe 511 and facts.
Joe
Yep, yep, yep. I'm telling you, that's. That's measurement. Measurements. I'm telling you, they're.
Debo
Oh, my goodness. They said the Tennessee Titans will have turf.
Joe
You started lying. They gonna have turf.
Debo
I just seen it in the chat. David Little said the Tennessee Titans will have turf.
Joe
Wow.
Debo
David Little, dash V. That's not good. C6TD.
Joe
That's not good.
Debo
Hey, Joe, they said you had pumps
Joe
on at the draft season with Joe's five.
Debo
Oh, they said you five nine.
Joe
No, they're just trying to be funny now. They're trying to be.
Debo
No, they're not, bro. I'm just. Why would the chat do this? They don't do this. They don't pick sides. They Love us both. All they do is speak facts.
Joe
They ain't speaking.
Debo
They do research. They check it out for us.
Joe
Like they said. That's crazy.
Debo
They said somebody is wearing lifts. Joe. Stephen Jackson 3041 says somebody wearing lifts. That's what he said.
Joe
You are not six foot tall and I am not six foot tall. I'm five foot eleven, Joe.
Debo
You ain't. I'm six foot, Joe. I was actually a little over six foot.
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Joe
Where? Where?
Debo
My measurements on my rookie year from the NFL. I was 6 foot 3 quarter.
Joe
No way.
Debo
Yes.
Joe
You was 511 to 7 8.
Debo
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. This, this, this. You being so disrespectful right now.
Joe
And they. Because that's what I'm telling you.
Debo
Do you realize that I go over this with my kids every day. They measure me every day.
Joe
Okay?
Debo
Every day. I'm six foot every day. Joe,
Joe
do you do. Are you doing this with shoes on?
Debo
No, barefoot. You want me to show you the marks in the basement? In the furnace room where we mark.
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Debo
a line across your head right here yeah. Yes, I can show you that. I'm gonna show you that.
Joe
I'm gonna believe it when you show it to me.
Debo
They've been fighting because they want to get taller than me. No, Henry, go get taller than me, because that measurement. I'm gonna lose on that one. I ain't gonna lie. But James, I don't think he got a chance. I don't think he got a chance. I think it's. Man, he was talking cash money. He was talking cash money, dude. Oh, dad, I'm almost taller than you. I'm. I'm. I'm 5, 10. I'm this and that. He was in, like. Like freshman or eighth grade or something like that. I said, hey, be careful.
Joe
Yeah.
Debo
I said, I've been six foot since the eighth grade, buddy. It was over with.
Joe
You got in eighth grade, you got.
Debo
Bro, I was six foot in the eighth grade, and I get no taller from there. It was over with and that. Look at him now. He like 511 board and got one inch in the last four, five years, huh? They got one inch in the last three, four years, huh? Yeah. Talking all that cash and then. Hey, hey, Joe. And then he told me, like, dad, you getting gray hairs, all that. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, okay, yeah, that's cool. Hey, he got, like, three of them already. I'm like, you got gray hairs already, son. You're only 18.
Joe
Wow.
Debo
Oh, it's bad feeding. It's going down. It's going down, son. It's going down. He said his wisdom. I said, nope, nope. That's what's talking.
Joe
That's what talking great young got to be. Yep, yep. It'll be OG.
Debo
See, you don't stretch, Joe. That's the big thing. You don't stretch. I stretch every stretch. I keep my limber. I. I keep. I keep my flexibility, Joe.
Joe
I do stretch.
Debo
You know what I'm saying? I seen you try and stretch that broke hip. You can't. It don't do nothing. Like. Joe, you remember when we was at the super.
Joe
Yeah, it's a little time. Working on it.
Debo
Little that.
Joe
Working on it, man. He was in the jump, too, man.
Debo
Man, my mama, my mama, my mama. Hip work better than that. I had it replaced.
Joe
I'm still dunking, though.
Debo
You ain't dunking on nothing, Joe.
Joe
I'm dunking 10ft. Still dunking. Can you dunk still?
Debo
No, I told you I can't. After I had my back surgery, it was over.
Joe
Yeah.
Debo
Yeah.
Joe
Okay. My bad. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
Debo
Well, let's. Let's go ahead and taller and we gonna see if you can dunk.
Joe
I'm gonna show you I can dunk. And then I'm gonna show you that I'm the same or a little bit taller than you.
Debo
You're not taller than me, Joe.
Joe
You didn't measure yourself since your back surgery.
Debo
Yes, I have, dude. Down a little bit. Listen, man, you think I ain't myself?
Joe
I know.
Debo
At least three times this year they trying to catch me. They trying to make like they taller than me. It ain't happening yet, Joe.
Joe
Let me tell you something.
Debo
Giving up nothing.
Joe
My little son Joey, he gonna be taller than me for sure. He's nine. And this little man is four foot ten. Yup.
Debo
At nine, he almost, almost there. One more inch.
Joe
One more foot.
Debo
Oh, there you go.
Joe
You. My bad. Yeah.
Debo
I got confused, though. My bad. I'm sorry about that, bro.
Joe
Jetty Jet T, seven years old. He's. He's probably gonna be around my height. He's four foot two. Because when I was in the ninth grade, Debo, I was five foot three five, three, five, four in the ninth, Starting varsity freshman quarterback. Looking like a five three one, three five. And then when I left, I was five, ten and a half, five eleven, one hundred and eighty five.
Debo
And you ain't grew since?
Joe
Not one hundred and seventy five.
Debo
And I did.
Joe
No, I ain't. Yep. I stayed around that size.
Debo
Yeah, yeah. It's okay.
Joe
I stayed at 5:11.
Debo
You're not. And you probably ain't even 5'11. Cause I'm so much taller than you. Now that I think about it. You ain't five. You ain't five' eleven.
Joe
You're.
Debo
You.
Joe
Okay. I'm just telling you, you got them NBA numbers.
Debo
The NFL, they're. They're going to award, I guess, the 20, 28 draft to. To Minnesota. Minneapolis next year is in D.C. and then we got Minneapolis the year after that. You ever been over there, bro? I played a Super bowl over there. I don't know what it's gonna be like, but it was cold. It was. Dude, it was colder than, like, bruh. It was so cold there, bro. It was cold. And Eskimo out that, bro. I'm trying to tell. Oh, Lord, bro.
Joe
They said they got one of the. I don't know. They probably got one of the biggest malls.
Debo
Oh, the mall is fine.
Joe
That was the only hotel we stayed at.
Debo
It was connected to it.
Joe
Yes, yes. That's why I went to it. Connected to the hotel. Walked around it Was nice. It was indoors, so it was cold as. I don't know what outside. So we never had.
Debo
It was negative. I don't know what.
Joe
Yeah, come on.
Debo
Anyway, man, let's hit these super chats before we get out of here. Oh, we only got one super chat. That's great. We got one super chat from Hex Tana. $5. Joe Go need one of them rubber ducky.
Joe
That's crazy devices. That's crazy word.
Debo
You take him fishing. Mad love. Joe should have been a Steeler since day one. Hey, he couldn't have been a Steeler since day one because we would have never been that sorry to go draft that high.
Joe
I was drafting too late. But y' all could have traded up for. For your dog. But it's all good.
Debo
I ain't think about that. I ain't think about that. But.
Joe
But, you know. No, no, no. It's all good. Everything. Y' all got Pouncy.
Debo
Everything happened for a reason.
Joe
Y' all got. Y' all got Pouncy.
Debo
Yeah, for sure. For sure.
Joe
I should never stay. Y' all made a wrong pick, picking my dog. Pounce. Got to be more careful. The center he stayed there for. It's just Pro Bowls. On Pro Bowls. On Pro Bowls.
Debo
Yes, sir. He's home, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Joe
No rubber duckies over here for me. I'm gonna be good, Debo.
Debo
Hey, you know how to swim? You good?
Joe
I'm a. What can I swim?
Debo
We ain't jumping in the water. I'm jumping the water. If we go to Alaska, because that's.
Joe
I'm gonna jump in. I can.
Debo
It's cold water, Joe. It's cold water now.
Joe
I can swim anywhere. I ain't scared.
Debo
Hey, listen. And I really noticed, and they actually jumped out into, like, the. I jumped in the bay. Me and the kids, we jumped in the bay, but we had one. One person, they jumped while they were in the ocean.
Joe
I could be alive.
Debo
No, I wouldn't have did that, bro. I would have been scared. I was scared jumping into the bay, bruh.
Joe
That's what I'm saying. I'm talking about my swimming skills. I could do it. Fearful of what's in there. Completely different game. I'm not. Yeah. I'm not rocking with none of that stuff that's in there. We got to make sure no sharks in there.
Debo
Ain't nothing there but salmon sharks. Some salmon sharks in there. You don't wanna. I don't know if they want to hit you. I don't know if they.
Joe
I Don't know.
Debo
I don't know if they. But they. They got sharp teeth. They eat salmon, though. Yeah. They shouldn't bite you.
Joe
Yeah, I'm not going. Yeah, you jump in first, then food.
Debo
But they got orcas, too. Now, I'm really.
Joe
I'm really trying to fish. I'm really trying to fish. Don't need none of that.
Debo
Humpback whales, all that. Yeah, yeah, Orcas and humpbacks, but we not.
Joe
You're not trying to jump in there with them?
Debo
No, no, no. That's why I jump in at the bay.
Joe
Okay.
Debo
Get from the bay is you might get a. You know, you might get a whale come through there. Okay. He got lost in the traffic.
Joe
He.
Debo
He'll wander through. In and back out.
Joe
Yep.
Debo
But.
Joe
Yeah, but when he's coming through, I'm gonna just get back in the boat.
Debo
They got sea otters, though. You see them? Sea otters?
Joe
Yeah. All that's cool. All that's cool.
Debo
Well, look here, Joe. This is what we gonna do, man. I'm gonna go ahead and check out this. This CAVS game at 8 o', clock, bro.
Joe
Yes, you are.
Debo
And I' ma watch when New York put them on them. And I'm a. I'm just. I'm just gonna hit you like I did last time. Hi.
Joe
Here we go. Cleveland Cavaliers. I'm gonna ask y' all right now, and this is from me to you. Do this for the city. Do this for the land. James Harden. I know they've been out here talking greasy about you and not me. I believe it's your time. Do what you gotta do. That step back, that double step back, that everybody's loaned the love. Nobody's talking to you, Deebo.
Debo
I'm talking about that travel, James Harden.
Joe
And I'm talking to Cleveland. We need you, James Harden. It's time. Donovan. Mitchell, you made it now to the Eastern Conference finals. I'm so happy for you. You're my man. You got you having Coco on the sideline. Bring your old lady to the games. I love it. Donovan, keep doing your thing. Spider Mobley and Jarrett Allen, please do not let Karl Anthony Towns and Mitchell Robinson go out there and try to act like they know what they're doing. Our big men, y' all are our big men. Come out there, play defense like you did versus Detroit in game seven. We need this. Come on, let's steal game one from New York in Madison Square Garden, show them that we not playing. They got a seven and a half point underdogs. Are they tripping Are they tripping? Let's go.
Debo
Should have been 10.
Joe
I want to hear none of that, Debo. None of that.
Debo
Look here, look here. Joe is out here talking reckless, out of control. Come on. But what I want to do is thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like subscribe and download where you get your podcast. Joe.
Joe
See y' all on Friday. Let's go, Cavs.
Debo
Cut that.
Joe
Let's go. Cast Debo. Give me a. Let's go, Cavs.
Debo
Here we go, Steelers. I don't care about the cast.
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Release Date: May 19, 2026
Featured Guests: Debo (James Harrison) & Joe (Joe Haden)
Host: Shannon Sharpe (absent in this episode; Debo & Joe hold the discussion)
This episode of Club Shay Shay, hosted by former NFL stars Debo (James Harrison) and Joe (Joe Haden), dives into a mix of NFL current events, behind-the-scenes dynamics, and playful banter. Major topics covered include recent drama around Coach Prime (Deion Sanders), rumors about Jalen Hurts missing A.J. Brown's wedding, the 2030 Super Bowl’s Nashville announcement, the Urban Meyer lawsuit, stadium surfaces, NFL height debates, and family anecdotes. The episode is full of candid player perspectives, locker-room storytelling, and a hefty dose of humor.
[02:56–05:47]
“When you say, you know better off if his father, Dion, leaves well enough alone. What's well enough alone? What are you saying? ...Makes me think you might know something. What is he getting at?” – Debo [02:56]
“I'm an overthinker sometimes, too...I thought about everything that you thinking about, and then I thought about the response to the response that you was thinking.” – Debo [04:43]
[06:13–10:13]
“Nothing. It's got everybody, bad schedules are crazy...I don't think it's nothing. I'm not diving into it because I really think that's A.J. Brown's day.” – Joe [06:41, 07:15]
“I am not traveling nowhere to go to a wedding...I ain’t showing up.” – Debo [08:21]
[13:15–23:37]
“Why you go drop the charges against the bigger conglomerate...that sounds fishy to me.” – Debo [16:16]
“I ain't never seen him kick nobody...he had a real good...aggressive coaching style, but he never touched nobody.” – Joe [18:13, 19:14]
[24:26–32:18]
“That’s what I’m telling you. That’s why these teams making that new stadium is incentivizing — cause the Super Bowl gonna come to your spot.” – Joe [25:26]
“They gotta be great. Billion dollars...Like, y’all make enough money, bro. It ain’t about the money...” – Debo [30:56, 31:03]
[32:18–45:00]
“I’m six foot in everywhere. I’m six foot on the earth, period, man.” – Debo [37:17]
“You’re lying.” – Joe [36:37]
“Your arms are bigger than mine. And I’m taller than you, Joe.” – Joe [38:00]
“Do you want me to show you the marks in the basement? ... where we mark a line across your head right here?” – Debo [44:52]
[08:21–10:13]
“Don’t even invite me, man...Just let me know what you need on the registry, man. Don't even waste the money..."
[48:40–49:36]
[52:25–54:28]
“Cleveland Cavaliers...Do this for the city. Do this for the land...Mitchell, you made it now to the Eastern Conference finals...” – Joe [52:43]
“Here we go, Steelers. I don’t care about the Cavs.” – Debo [54:28]
For listeners who appreciate the blend of insider NFL news, honest takes, real-life anecdotes, and authentic camaraderie, this episode delivers in spades. Instead of clickbait drama, Debo and Joe offer player realities: skepticism of media narratives (Jalen Hurts/A.J. Brown), a critical look at NFL business (Urban Meyer saga), excitement for league growth (Nashville Super Bowl), and personality-filled storytelling (height debates, wedding etiquette, family). If you want to know how pro athletes actually talk about the games—and each other—behind the scenes, don't miss this episode.