Amber Rose: My Problem Is That “I Worship The D*ck.” (Part 1 )

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Amber Rose – My Problem Is That “I Worship The D*ck.” (Part 1)
Release Date: June 22, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe (Shay Shay Media & Playmaker, although in this episode, Paul Pierce and Azar Faraday lead the conversation)
Guest: Amber Rose

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Episode Overview

In this candid and deeply personal episode, Amber Rose joins Azar Faraday and Paul Pierce for a no-holds-barred discussion on dating, relationships, age dynamics, mental health, and her unique journey through fame and vulnerability. The episode explores themes of femininity versus masculinity, the psychological effects of toxic relationships, struggles with depression, and the importance of emotional communication in partners. Amber gives insight into her dating life, personal healing, and evolution—and doesn’t shy away from addressing the hard truths about men, women, and modern love.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Amber’s Dating Life and Public Attention (06:00 – 16:00)

• Amber and her “mystery man”:

  • Recently seen with a younger Irish man, met at the World Cup. She clarifies: “I was out. He’s very handsome and asked me on a date… I was like, of course, I’ll go.” (06:22)
  • She emphasizes being open to new people and experiences, and her appreciation for his direct, confident approach.

• Younger men gravitating towards Amber:

  • Amber reflects on the new phase of being a “42-year-old woman” and how younger men now approach her frequently, something she hadn’t experienced before. (08:10)
  • “Majority of men that tried to talk to me are very, very young...they kind of come towards me.” (08:04–08:38)
  • Other female guests echo that younger men are often drawn to more established, nurturing women.

• Age preferences:

  • Ideal range: “35 to like 45, which makes my dating pool very small. But I’m not mad at the 24, 25-year-old.” (13:01)
  • “Nothing over 50… It would be nice if an older guy tried to talk to me, because I feel like with older men, I could be the baby.” (13:45)

2. Masculinity, Vulnerability, and Gender Roles (03:05–04:15; 25:08–27:10)

• On feeling vulnerable in relationships:

  • “Not to be vulgar, but when you’re coming inside of a woman and she feels vulnerable enough to let you do that...You’ll never understand what we feel because we’re in the more vulnerable position. You guys are making us masculine. We don’t want to be masculine.” (03:05 / again at 25:08)
  • Her theory about the rise in “masculine energy” among women: “We’re not being protected by the leaders of society, which is the men.” (25:56)

• Defensive mechanisms and gendered expectations:

  • Amber and Azar discuss how women increasingly express independence (“I get money, I’m independent…”) as a defense, not always out of desire. (26:08)
  • Azar: “It’s a defense mechanism. When we be like, ‘I don’t need it…’ it’s because we’re not getting the protection we want.” (26:13)

3. The Abuse Cycle: Narcissism & Relationships (17:41 – 25:00)

• Defining narcissistic dynamics:

  • Amber details the abusive cycle: “Love bombing, devaluing… that’s when they come in and say, ‘You’re my everything,’ then the second part is devaluing… now you want to dim my light… Then the discard is the third part.” (19:05)
  • “You start to blame yourself...It’s a mind fuck, bro. It’s really bad.” (20:39)

• Breadcrumbing and emotional roller coasters:

  • Azar adds: “They love bomb you, then they take it away...then give you a little bit again, and you’re happy with 20% of love.” (21:02)
  • Amber compares the highs and lows to being addicted to heroin: “It’s like crack, bro. You’re chasing that high until you get to a point—and then you’re just done.” (21:18–22:12)

4. Double Standards in Dating (22:54 – 23:45)

• Amber highlights social media hypocrisy:

  • “They will like every bitch’s picture in a bikini, but once you post it...‘You’re a disgusting, nasty, disgusting…how dare you!’” (22:54)
  • “Now I’m an asshole, and I’m gonna do it more now.” (23:15)

• Azar confesses her people-pleasing past: “I’m still overly accountable. Overly feeling bad…I’m not in that era of, ‘fuck you.’” (23:41)

5. Mental Health, Depression & Ketamine Treatment (29:40 – 34:45)

• Amber’s battle with depression:

  • She reveals a period of deep post-partum depression, triggered “after the pandemic, with a newborn,” despite never previously struggling with mental health. (31:31)
  • “Hella suicidal...I did ketamine treatments for a couple months and it literally went away. One day I just woke up and was like, I don’t give a fuck about nothing.” (29:52, 30:25)
  • She recommends microdosing ketamine: “I did it for like three or four months… woke up, wasn’t suicidal anymore.” (30:48)

• Longevity of treatment:

  • Amber’s relief lasted a year before needing a booster; she says it’s been “four, five years now” since repeating the treatment and she’s felt good since. (31:43)

• Her mother’s struggles:

  • “My mom had a very, very difficult life…her mom committed suicide in front of her when she was 10… I was essentially like her mother when I was 13, 14, 15.” (32:49–33:12)
  • Amber speaks supportively of her mom’s new routine and improved mental health.

6. Emotional Communication & Black Men (34:45 – 38:30)

• Paul Pierce and Amber discuss barriers for men:

  • Paul on traditional masculinity: “Men are more open to crying now…the world is more open to seeing men cry now. Whereas for me growing up, you gotta be tough out here.” (35:50)

• Amber and raising sons:

  • “I tell my sons all the time, tell me how you feel. Communicate with your mama, let me know everything… The only time I tell my sons not to be emotional is with someone being aggressive with them.” (34:55)
  • She advocates the importance of emotionally validating boys for their future relationships.

• Amber’s new boundaries:

  • “I don’t give a fuck anymore. Deal with your own shit…If you don’t know how to communicate and be vulnerable, you not the one for me. I’m not your mama.” (37:55)
  • She outlines her expectation for partners to arrive “healed or healing”—it’s no longer her job to fix men.

7. Streaming, Public Life, and Attractiveness (40:05–44:46)

• Streaming encounter with Adrien Broner:

  • Amber laughs about the bizarre subathon experience: “He was pushing up on me, smelling my chair… licking my water bottle… he was dead ass serious.” (41:03–41:57)

• How she perceives men’s attractiveness:

  • Discusses societal perception of the men she’s dated (“people say I date ugly…”).
  • “I think you [Amber] have [dated attractive men].” – Azar (42:32)
  • They compare tastes—Amber likes “pretty men,” Azar prefers “medium-ugly.” (43:19)
  • Playful debate about “Love Island” crushes caps the segment. (44:05)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “The majority of men that tried to talk to me are very, very young...[they] kind of come towards me.” – Amber Rose ([08:04])
• “There’s a whole wave of women nowadays that are very masculine...because we’re not being protected by the leaders of society, which is the men.” – Amber Rose ([03:05], repeated at [25:56])
• “Love bombing, devaluing, and then the discard. You start to lose yourself…and then they say, ‘you’re not the same person I fell in love with.’” – Amber Rose ([19:05])
• “It’s the highs and lows. It’s equivalent to being addicted to heroin.” – Amber Rose ([21:18])
• “They will like every bitch’s picture in a bikini, but once you post it...‘How dare you!’” – Amber Rose ([22:54])
• “I’m not catering to you no more… If you can’t heal yourself or at least be willing… then I could stay. If it’s, ‘this is who I am’—leave me the fuck alone.” – Amber Rose ([37:55])
• “I will suck a dick and make something to eat for sure. If the response is correct. If not, go make your own food, pack your own dinner.” – Azar Faraday, with laughter ([39:33])
• “I did ketamine treatments… and I was just like, I don’t give a fuck about nothing…one day, you just wake up and you’re just not suicidal anymore.” – Amber Rose ([30:25])

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Important Timestamps

• Amber on Age & Younger Men: 06:44 – 13:40
• Masculinity & Vulnerability: 03:05 – 04:15; 25:08 – 27:10
• Defining Narcissism in Relationships: 17:41 – 22:12
• Double Standards in Social Media: 22:54 – 23:45
• Mental Health & Ketamine Therapy: 29:40 – 34:45
• Communication Barriers for Black Men: 34:45 – 38:30
• New Boundaries in Dating: 37:55 – 39:46
• Streaming & Attractiveness Segment: 40:19 – 44:46

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Tone & Style

• Raw, unfiltered, and deeply personal. Amber and the hosts speak with a mix of vulnerability, humor, and honesty—addressing serious issues but often lightening the mood with jokes and supportive banter.

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For Further Listening

Stay tuned for Part 2, as the conversation promises more depth on relationships, fame, and Amber Rose’s unfiltered take on love, sex, and healing in the modern world.

Transcript

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[Amber Rose]

Listen, not to be vulgar, but when you're coming inside of a woman and you feel. And a woman feels vulnerable enough to let you do that, speak it. And she feels like, okay, this is my person. You're telling me that I'm your person, and. And my body is vulnerable to you, and you find out that there's something else going on or it's a fucking nightmare. These men don't. You'll never understand what we feel because we're in the more vulnerable position. You guys are making us masculine. We don't want to be masculine. That's why there's a whole wave of women nowadays that are very masculine, where they're like, I get niggers. I get money. I like fudge, y'. All. I'm independent. Whatever. This is why women have that attitude, because we're not being protected by the leaders of society, which is the men.

[Paul Pierce]

This is the taking over the game. All right, everybody. Welcome to Truth After Dark.

[Azar Faraday]

Do you think that men or women are more toxic? Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to another episode of the Truth After Dark. I'm your host, Azar Faraday.

[Paul Pierce]

Paul Pierce.

[Azar Faraday]

And today we have such an incredible guest. I'm so excited. She has built a brand that's impossible to ignore. From modeling and entrepreneurship to dominating headlines, social media, and pop culture conversations, she spent years turning attention into influence. Love her or disagree with her, one thing is undeniable. She has never been afraid to speak her mind, challenge expectations, and stay authentically herself in an industry that constantly tries to put people in a box. I'm so excited to welcome Amber Rose.

[Paul Pierce]

Thank you.

[Amber Rose]

That's a wonderful introduction.

[Azar Faraday]

Thank you. Yes, yes. You deserve it.

[Amber Rose]

Thank you.

[Azar Faraday]

I just want to say this before we get started because I've been wanting to say this. The first time I ever saw you with Kanye, I was like, who is this woman? Because she's so fly. Like, you were just so fly. Like something that no one has ever seen. Like the bald head, the Fashion, the energy. I was like, she is that girl.

[Amber Rose]

Thank you.

[Azar Faraday]

Period. Period.

[Paul Pierce]

Thank you.

[Azar Faraday]

So we're so. We're so grateful for you to be on the show today.

[Amber Rose]

Thanks for having me.

[Commercial Announcer]

Of course.

[Azar Faraday]

Of course. So we'll get into it. Recently, you've been in the media for being spotted out with a mystery man. So what is your. It's not so mystery. Cause they kind of found him. They did? No. Is he, like, a soccer player? A football player?

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah, girl.

[Azar Faraday]

I saw his page earlier, honey.

[Paul Pierce]

Oh. You know it's the World cup right now.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah. I said okay.

[Amber Rose]

He got.

[Commercial Announcer]

Okay.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay.

[Amber Rose]

Amber, that's crazy. I did not know they found out about.

[Azar Faraday]

They found him for sure.

[Amber Rose]

They did. Okay.

[Azar Faraday]

So what is the tea. Are y' all dating? Are you dating around? Are you still. No.

[Amber Rose]

You know, it's the World Cup. I was out, you know, period. He's like, you know, a very handsome young man, and he asked me on a date, and I'm single, so I was like, of course I'll go on a date with you. So he took me out to dinner. He was a gentleman, very nice. And we've only known each other now for, like, a week.

[Paul Pierce]

Oh, wow.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah. So I just met him, and he took me on a date, but that was it.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay, so he approached you?

[Amber Rose]

He did, yes.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay. Because I know on Club Shay Shay, you talked about how men can be intimidated to approach you, which I can understand. So do you feel like he's European, babe?

[Amber Rose]

Yeah, it's just different.

[Azar Faraday]

The outfit comes out. That's what Paul be saying. The men, too.

[Amber Rose]

It was just. It was like I was. You know, and that's why I went on a date with him, because he was very forward. He was just like. I mean, he wasn't. His lip wasn't quivering. That's what I'm used to. I'm used to, like, do you think I can take you out? You know, like. But it wasn't that. He was very direct, very masculine, and asked me on a date, and I was like, I would love to go on a date with you.

[Paul Pierce]

What country he from?

[Amber Rose]

He's Irish.

[Paul Pierce]

Oh, Irish.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah. He has an Irish accent.

[Paul Pierce]

Okay, I love that.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah. But again, I don't know him well, but, yeah, we just went on a date. That was good.

[Azar Faraday]

I love that. Was it a good day?

[Amber Rose]

It was a. It was a very nice date.

[Paul Pierce]

Okay.

[Azar Faraday]

I love that. So you talked about men that approach you or talk to you or are drawn to you are typically younger, like in their 20s.

[Amber Rose]

Yes.

[Azar Faraday]

So do you typically Go for that.

[Amber Rose]

Or so I think. Okay. So when I did the Ball Brothers podcast.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah.

[Amber Rose]

I think that it came off wrong.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay.

[Amber Rose]

So let me set the straight.

[Azar Faraday]

Set it straight.

[Amber Rose]

Okay. So the majority of men that tried to talk to me are very, very young.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay.

[Amber Rose]

Now, I haven't always been 42 years old, so this is a new chapter in my life where I'm like, this is very interesting that all the younger guys like me now as an older woman, they're approaching me in a different way, and I haven't always been an older woman, so I never really understood how to navigate that. So it's not necessarily something that I go towards, but they kind of come towards me.

[Paul Pierce]

Gravitate towards you?

[Amber Rose]

Yeah, it's like a thing now, you know?

[Paul Pierce]

And I'm like, oh, all age groups gravitate. Come on. Now. You just noticing it more with the young guys now? Just more than ever.

[Amber Rose]

I think so, Paul. I think, like, yeah, I think so. I just. Even in my DMs, they're all very young.

[Paul Pierce]

What's your idea? Age? What show? Cause we had some ladies on here, and they said they range. We had a lady that was on here, said from 23 to 70.

[Azar Faraday]

But you know what, Amber? You're, like, one of the fourth women that came on here that said the same thing you're saying.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah, okay.

[Azar Faraday]

Like, they're saying, like, the younger ones gravitate towards them, like, period. I've heard that.

[Amber Rose]

And I. And again, I haven't always been 42. So has this always been a thing that younger men like older women?

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, I think it does. I think it is. And you know what? Someone said that made sense to me. The older men want the younger women, and the younger guys are like, ooh, she bad. I could conquer her. She's older. And that is like a prize to them, where the young woman is a prize to the older man.

[Amber Rose]

So what they say to me is that they like older women because we're more established. We have children, we have all the snacks, we cook. Let me say that, you know, we're very clean, which, you know, I mean, listen, I wouldn't say that I was a nasty girl in my 20s, but as you do get older, I say

[Azar Faraday]

this all the time.

[Amber Rose]

You're a little more hygienic.

[Azar Faraday]

They dragged me for that. They were like, girls are hygienic in their 20s. 20s. I'm like, it's different. You are. But like, the oils, the.

[Amber Rose]

It's different as you get older. It's true. It's Different. It's different. So I think they just appreciate being. I don't want to say this the wrong way, but kind of being mothered a little bit.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah.

[Amber Rose]

I think the young guys, they like that, that maternal vibe. Yeah.

[Azar Faraday]

Do you think that's a red flag a little bit?

[Amber Rose]

No, I like.

[Azar Faraday]

You like the mother, man. Yeah, I feel the same way. I feel like when you're naturally nurturing, it's like, it feels good to do that, in my opinion.

[Amber Rose]

But like the guy went on a date where he was 24. Oh, he was, yeah.

[Azar Faraday]

Do you feel like you had much in common with him? Like, yeah, I could see that.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah, I did. Like, I don't know, it just. He just was very mature for his age. But you know, you just, I don't know, you just don't. You never know because you'll, you'll see different clips online where it's like, younger men and older women make the best relationships. And then they'll be like, older men and younger women make the best relationships. You just gotta kind of go and throw yourself in there and just see how the fuck it goes.

[Paul Pierce]

I'm gonna tell you as a guy, when I was younger, I didn't gravitate it, but I talked to this older lady and it was just like, I think I was like 21 and she was like 34. So that was like, oh, for a 21 year old.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah. Yeah, it is, it is, yeah.

[Paul Pierce]

So I was just like, oh, this is kind of baller, right. She used to pick me up and her little, her little, her range rolled me. I was like, okay. She was like, I feel like the younger. And why I'm saying this is. I feel like the younger guys feel like getting with an older lady. Cause they could show em something.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah.

[Paul Pierce]

You know, because she showed me something and I was like, oh, that's, that's, you know, okay. That's how you do it. You know what I'm saying? Cause they didn't, they older.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah.

[Paul Pierce]

So they know the things that a younger don't know. So they like wiser, where you just running around like a chicken with your head cut off. With these young girls, you just fly by night girls, you know what I'm saying? With older women, you can kind of like, damn. You can kind of watch her move how she, you know, she go to the restaurant, you see how classy he is. When I'm still learning class and I'm still trying to learn, you know, to be an adult as a young man, you learn something from an older Woman.

[Azar Faraday]

That's why I think younger men too. I would want to be with you if I was old. If I was a young man. But no, what I was gonna say is Paul says women over 30 are cooked. So he always says I'm cooked. What do you think about that? He's always like, you're cooked, you're cooked.

[Amber Rose]

And I'm like, well, I think, you know, and I. And I do see those clips.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Amber Rose]

So I was like, let me come up on here. Exactly. You know, and he's entitled to his opinions. I think that to each his own. I think everyone has a different opinion about that and that's valid, you know?

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah.

[Amber Rose]

So, you know, everyone could feel how they want to feel.

[Paul Pierce]

So what's the age range?

[Azar Faraday]

Go back to that.

[Paul Pierce]

The age range right now is 24. To what?

[Amber Rose]

I wouldn't even say it's 24. It's like, I can't say. It has to just be the person, you know, I wouldn't, ideally, I wouldn't want to be with a 21 year old either, but I would say ideally 35 to like 45, which makes my dating pool very small. But I'm actually not mad at the 24. 25 year old, nothing over 50,

[Paul Pierce]

They just. Out of. So guys, y' all watching over 50, it's over.

[Azar Faraday]

What if it's the right one?

[Amber Rose]

If it's the right one, it's the right one.

[Azar Faraday]

It's the right one.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah, I'm sure you get some older, 50 year old mature guys. That's the story.

[Amber Rose]

No, they never talk to me, Paul. Really? They never ever talk to me. They just don't. So I, I wouldn't say that. Like, I, I wouldn't. It would be nice. It would be nice if an older guy tried to talk to me. Because I feel like with older men I could be the baby.

[Azar Faraday]

I could act like that's what I

[Amber Rose]

like, you know, but they just don't talk to me. It's so weird. Like, damn, they don't.

[Azar Faraday]

It feels good when you're the baby though, too. I've only experienced that like one time. And it just feels good when you could be like, yeah, baby. Okay, daddy. Yeah, like, that is good. That feels amazing. But I can get both sides of it, you know what I mean? And I heard that the younger men be just becoming like, yeah, what's up? Da da, da. I'll do this, I'll do that.

[Amber Rose]

Well, you got to think about it, right? So for somebody like me that men are very scared to talk to if a 24 year old does come up to me and I haven't talked to nobody in six months and he's fine and masculine and giving me that energy, it's like, what am I supposed to do?

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, exactly.

[Amber Rose]

You know, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta try something. Like, it's just giving me energy, you know. But again, if an older man tried to talk to me, as long as it's not giving old man. Because I'm 42, I feel like I'm 18. I feel like I'm young. I go to the gym every day, I work out, I run around with my kids. I still go out. I saw y' all out.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah.

[Amber Rose]

You know, at the day party. Like I still feel young. So if somebody is older, they still have to have that youthful energy.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, yeah. First of all, I just want to say, like 42 is really not old.

[Amber Rose]

Like it's not.

[Azar Faraday]

I don't know, Paul might say that. Me personally, I feel like it's really not giving that old. I just don't think you look amazing. You seem youthful. Like, I don't think that that's that

[Paul Pierce]

old, you know, I mean, it's not

[Azar Faraday]

old, but he calls me an older lady. I'm 35, so now it's not old. Okay, it's not old.

[Paul Pierce]

It's not an old age for men. It's just how society views it, you know what I'm saying? Like how they say.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, I get it.

[Paul Pierce]

Like men, like men can be 80 years old and be with like a 35, 36 year old. Where an 80 year old woman ain't getting with no 35 year old man.

[Azar Faraday]

Well, he has money. That's the only reason why they would get with him. An 85 year old woman man is not getting a young woman if he's broke.

[Amber Rose]

It's definitely rare. It's definitely rare. But.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah, but you know, people do it. That's just how our society is. It makes y' all turns from grapes to raisins fast. You know what I'm saying?

[Amber Rose]

Like crazy, right?

[Azar Faraday]

I mean, isn't that why this is what I have to deal with?

[Paul Pierce]

Like that. That's not me. This is the society on how men.

[Amber Rose]

It's personal preference.

[Azar Faraday]

Because my preference would be being a woman. Would be being with a woman. I would not want a young little girl because I know what I was like when I was young and I know women.

[Amber Rose]

I was retarded five years ago.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, that's why they like it. Because you're so dumb that you're willing to take everything. You'll be like, oh, cool. Yeah, I'll deal with that.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah, exactly.

[Azar Faraday]

Oh, you got this. Yeah, cool. Whatever. Like, you don't give a damn, and you're not pressed to, like, want anything. You just are, like, cool, all right.

[Amber Rose]

Just living your best life.

[Azar Faraday]

Living your best life. You buy me a few gifts, we having sex, we go to dinner. Like, I'm cool, you know, so it's just. I get it. But, you know, it is what it is.

[Amber Rose]

Do you have kids?

[Azar Faraday]

I don't. No.

[Amber Rose]

Okay.

[Azar Faraday]

Not yet.

[Paul Pierce]

What's up with the. What's the. What's up with the everyday guy? Any. Any. Have you ever, like, is there. When the last time you dated just, like. Just somebody that just was, like, not in the limelight? Is it possible for them guys?

[Amber Rose]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah.

[Paul Pierce]

They got a chance.

[Amber Rose]

Of course. Yeah. I don't. The only reason I dated celebrities, for the most part, is because they were just within the realm of where I was 100. Wasn't, like, me being sought out or looking for them. You know, it's kind of like, it would be in, like, situations like this, and then, you know, I meet him and I'm just here, and then we start dating, and it just happens that way. But, yeah. Yeah, of course.

[Azar Faraday]

So you talked about being in a relationship with, like, a narcissistic man before publicly, right?

[Amber Rose]

Oh, yes, girl.

[Azar Faraday]

And I want to get into that, because Paul always is. Like, once a woman breaks up with a man, he's a narcissist, and he's this and he's that. Right. And I feel like that word is thrown around a lot, but it's a real fucking thing. And if you experienced it, you've experienced it. And it's worse than physical abuse, in my opinion.

[Amber Rose]

It is.

[Azar Faraday]

It's mental abuse. And it fucks you up in a way that I can't even say.

[Amber Rose]

It changes your brain chemistry.

[Azar Faraday]

Thank you. Because I've been there.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah, me too. Yeah. I think there's just classic traits that now we could just see the very clearly where we know a man is not just being narcissistic. Like, he likes looking in the mirror and, like, oh, my cut. I look fresh. You know, that's narcissistic qualities. When you actually have npd, you're essentially abusing people mentally, emotionally, spiritually. Like, it's. It's a deeper level. Like, I'd rather get punched in my mouth.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, me too.

[Paul Pierce]

Wow.

[Azar Faraday]

I've been in a physically abusive relationship, and I've been in a mentally abusive And I'd rather get my ass beat straight up than do that, because it. With your mind in a way where you forget who you are.

[Amber Rose]

That's a fact.

[Paul Pierce]

Like, what type of things? What are the characteristics?

[Azar Faraday]

I was gonna ask you that. For women, what do they need to look out for?

[Amber Rose]

Okay, so there's an abuse cycle, right?

[Azar Faraday]

Okay.

[Amber Rose]

It's love bombing, devaluing. So love bombing is when they come in really fast with an abundance of love. Like, you're my everything. I've never experienced this before. You're just like, oh, my God. And then every day, y' all hang out and y' all make love, and it's passionate and it's crazy, but really in their mind, it's not right? Then the second part of the abuse cycle is devaluing. Now it's like, why you got your hair like that, bro? Like, why? Like, what the fuck are you doing? Like, you just doing too much. And you're like, I've always done too much. You loved me because I was doing too much. Now you wanted to dim my light and change my personality, because now it's not fitting your narrative and how you want to want me to be. So they start to devalue. Then you start to lose yourself, right? Because now you're like, well, maybe I should change my hair, or maybe I want to please my man. I don't know. Like, maybe I should just dress different or do so. And then the discard. The discard is the third part of the abuse cycle where they make you lose yourself. And then they say, you're not the same person I fell in love with. I don't want to be with you no more.

[Paul Pierce]

Damn.

[Azar Faraday]

100%.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah. So then you're just sitting there like, I've done everything to make this man happy. I literally changed myself. I changed my personality. Everything that I ever was is different now. And now he don't want me. But the person that he initially fell in love with not there anymore. So you start to blame yourself.

[Azar Faraday]

You're giving me chills.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah. You start to internalize it. Like, should I. I should have stood up for myself. I should have not changed myself. But he kind of made me change myself. And it's a mind, bro. It's really bad.

[Azar Faraday]

And don't forget the breadcrumbing. The part where they love bomb you, and then what they do is they take it away. And then you're trying to figure out, what did I do wrong?

[Amber Rose]

Yes.

[Azar Faraday]

What? You loved me so much at first. Did I up. Did I say something Did I do something?

[Amber Rose]

That's what your bo. It did to me.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah. That's fucked up. And then what they'll do is they'll breadcrumb. So they'll start giving you love again, little by little. And then next episode. You're so happy with 20% of love.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah. It's the highs and lows. It's equivalent to being addicted to heroin, so.

[Azar Faraday]

Oh, they say that it is.

[Amber Rose]

So when they. When they take their love away after maybe, like, a very passionate moment that you guys had together, right? Let's say you. You go out to dinner, you go home, you make passionate love, and you're just like, your endorphins, and everything is just going crazy. And then the next day, it's like, all right, what's up, friend? What's going on, friend? What's up, homie? Homie, I'm in love with you. What is happening right now? You know? So then you get that low, and then you feel bad about yourself, and then they'll come back a week later. I miss you. I love you. I'm so sorry. Then you get that high again. So it's like crack, bro. You're, like, chasing that high until you get to a point where you're just like, you know, man, this. I'm done, bro. Like, I can't take it anymore. I've tried everything.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah.

[Amber Rose]

And now it's done.

[Azar Faraday]

You explain that so beautifully and honestly.

[Paul Pierce]

That's the best I've ever heard and explained.

[Azar Faraday]

And also, it's always beautiful women that go through that. I can. I. I always know that it's beautiful women. And the man. The way you explain the man being like, why is your hair like that? Or, why did you. Why are you acting so loud? Like, you knew I was loud.

[Amber Rose]

You know me when I was loud. You pursued me. Cause I was loud.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, you liked me.

[Commercial Announcer]

You hit me up.

[Azar Faraday]

Cause you're like, damn, I like what you saying.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah.

[Azar Faraday]

Like, you know all of this, and now the things that make me who I am at my core is what you are bringing down. And now I'm trying to fit into another mold of maybe the women that you liking on Instagram or this or that. And you making me feel so flawed.

[Amber Rose]

No, the crazy shit is, girl. The crazy shit is, is that they will like every bitch's picture in a bikini, but once you post it.

[Azar Faraday]

Oh, you're a hoe.

[Amber Rose]

You're a disgusting, nasty, disgusting. How dare you.

[Azar Faraday]

But I follow every bitch that's half naked on the street.

[Amber Rose]

That's half naked. But if you do it.

[Azar Faraday]

No, no, but I. Just Doing what I.

[Amber Rose]

But see, now I'm an. Now I'm an asshole. I'm not gonna lie. I'm an asshole, and I'm gonna do it more now.

[Azar Faraday]

Oh, you're an asshole.

[Amber Rose]

You gonna do it? Oh, yeah. You pissed me off.

[Azar Faraday]

See, I'm fucked up because I'm mentally like, damn, I want to please this person so bad.

[Amber Rose]

Nah, I'm done with that shit. I used to be like that, though.

[Azar Faraday]

I'm still like that.

[Amber Rose]

I'm older than you. You'll get there, babe. I promise you'll get there.

[Azar Faraday]

I hope I do, because I'm still like that. I'm like, I did something wrong. Oh, my God. I'm beating myself up all day.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah.

[Azar Faraday]

Like, I'm still overly accountable. Overly feeling bad. Overly. I'm not in that era of like, fuck you.

[Amber Rose]

You know what's really sad? Once you fully understand psychology, you psychoanalyze everyone, and you can almost see it from a mile away. The reason why I got stuck in a situationship at 42 is. Cause I've never experienced it before. So if I was to be in a situationship before that, I would have saw that from a mile away, you know? But now you could see it. I could see it. Yeah.

[Azar Faraday]

But you know what you don't know about a situationship? A man will give you the keys to his house. You'll meet his daughter and be the first woman to ever meet a child. You'll be at Thanksgiving dinner with him, and then he'll be like, well, I'm. I mean, I don't like to put labels on it.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah, exactly.

[Azar Faraday]

I live with you.

[Amber Rose]

Like, what do we.

[Paul Pierce]

I'm so y' all out here. Y' all sounded like y' all talking about Clay.

[Amber Rose]

You're coming in me every night.

[Paul Pierce]

Is that what you're talking about? Is Clay Thompson narcissist? Because you describe everything he did.

[Amber Rose]

Oh, I don't know that situation.

[Paul Pierce]

But he went to the house, bought the house, everything.

[Azar Faraday]

Well, we don't know their situation.

[Amber Rose]

It's giving.

[Paul Pierce]

It's giving. Don't that sound like

[Azar Faraday]

it's giving?

[Amber Rose]

Abuse cycle.

[Azar Faraday]

I can see that. I can see that.

[Amber Rose]

But we don't know.

[Paul Pierce]

Is it narcissist?

[Azar Faraday]

I don't know. I'm not gonna sit here.

[Paul Pierce]

I don't know. Personally, I bought the house.

[Azar Faraday]

What I do.

[Paul Pierce]

Y' all was on. All this was documented, but we don't know.

[Amber Rose]

Listen, not to be vulgar, but when you're coming inside of a Woman. And you feel. And a woman feels vulnerable enough to let you do that.

[Azar Faraday]

Speak it.

[Amber Rose]

And she feels like, okay, this is my person. You're telling me that I'm your person and my body is vulnerable to you, and you find out that there's something else going on or it's a fucking nightmare. These men don't. You'll never understand what we feel because we're in the more vulnerable position, physically and mentally. You know? So it's like just. Y' all just gotta, like, you guys are making us masculine. We don't want to be masculine. That's why there's a whole wave of women nowadays that are very masculine, where they're like, I. I get niggas. I. I get money. I like, fuck y'.

[Paul Pierce]

All.

[Amber Rose]

I'm independent. Whatever. This is why women have that attitude. Because we're not being protected by the leaders of society, which is the men. We're not being protected.

[Azar Faraday]

Speak that, Amber. It's a defense. Magnificent.

[Amber Rose]

It is.

[Azar Faraday]

No, because it. No, because it's true.

[Amber Rose]

It's true.

[Paul Pierce]

I'm gonna let y' all live.

[Azar Faraday]

No, no, no. She's telling some real shit. Because what it is, is a defense mechanism.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah, it is.

[Azar Faraday]

Like, when a woman starts to be like, well, all right, like, do you want to be over? Do you want me to be done? It's because it's like, I feel like you're gonna say that to me. Like, we just want to be protective. We want to feel, like, soft. And, like, when we get. When we start to be like, whatever, I don't need it. Da, da, da, da. Because I'm big on, like, I need a man. I'm not a feminist. I don't believe in equality, and I don't want to be equal to these niggas. Yeah. I want my man to be superior to me.

[Amber Rose]

I want to live in a patriarchy where I feel safe.

[Azar Faraday]

Me, too.

[Amber Rose]

Men are making sure that we're okay.

[Azar Faraday]

Me, too. I don't want. I need a man, and I need you to take care of me, and I need to be protected.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay. I'm a damsel in distress. And honestly, you have to understand, I'm emotional. I pms. I have a lot. Like, our chemistry, hormonally, is not built for us to be sane.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah.

[Azar Faraday]

We're not saying women. Like, we're emotional. We're on a roller coaster every month.

[Amber Rose]

If we're ever cursing you out or having an attitude or having masculine energy, it's your fault. I'm just being honest.

[Paul Pierce]

Damn.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah.

[Azar Faraday]

Thank you, Amber.

[Paul Pierce]

Let me ask y' all something. Can a woman be a narcissist?

[Amber Rose]

Because I've never heard a woman.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah, I feel like all women do that. They give you the love. Pull it back.

[Amber Rose]

I agree with you.

[Paul Pierce]

A lot of women, though, so they, like half of society women do that.

[Amber Rose]

No, I agree with you. You're not wrong.

[Paul Pierce]

They.

[Amber Rose]

They do. They. They're. Listen, I used to be a feminist. I used to be. I will tell you right now that Paul, you are absolutely right. It is literally 50, 50 on both sides.

[Paul Pierce]

Okay? I'm like, that sound like a lot of girls.

[Amber Rose]

These women are really up out here, and they ruin it for lover girls like us. They ruin it for us.

[Azar Faraday]

They do.

[Amber Rose]

Because we come in. Thank you. Go ahead. Don't say that her.

[Azar Faraday]

You say it.

[Amber Rose]

You say it. You say it.

[Azar Faraday]

You say it. Great. Say it.

[Amber Rose]

Because we come in with lover girl energy, and these men are so traumatized from these narcissistic ass that they're like, oh, my God, this is love bombing me too. And we're like, no, we actually really want to love you.

[Azar Faraday]

And they don't believe you.

[Amber Rose]

We don't.

[Azar Faraday]

They don't test you every second. You're going through every test. And man's like, you don't really love me. You don't really want me. You don't really want this. You was doing this.

[Commercial Announcer]

And it hurts.

[Azar Faraday]

Hurts our soul.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah.

[Azar Faraday]

Because I'm out here putting my whole heart on my sleeve.

[Amber Rose]

So we're all equally traumatized saying that

[Paul Pierce]

a man comes in traumatized from a woman. Yes, A woman narcissist.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah.

[Paul Pierce]

He becomes a narcissist and just passes it on.

[Azar Faraday]

No, no, no, that's not what it is. I'm just saying all be about a woman, though. You can't. A mammoth narcissist is just a man narcissist. A woman narcissist is just a woman narcissist. You're projecting what, the woman. Like, we project with the man.

[Amber Rose]

So no matter how many times we get hurt, we're never going to be narcissists to the next man. We're not going to do that. We might be a bit guarded, but we're never going to turn into narcissists.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah.

[Amber Rose]

So 50% of the women are narcissists, 50% of the men. And they ruin it for the good people that love.

[Paul Pierce]

Right.

[Azar Faraday]

And then. And then you do have trauma. Because even me, I could have been in my relationship where it's like, sometimes something happens and it's like the triggers from my past is like, oh, my God, this person doesn't love me or they're gonna leave me or they're gonna hurt me or they're gonna do this. Cause I did this. You know, like, you hurt from it. And when you are a good person, it really does hurt when someone is projecting that onto you. And I've done it to others, you know, because you're hurt. Hurt people, you know, it's hard.

[Amber Rose]

It is.

[Azar Faraday]

So I wanna talk about this. And this is a little deep, but I resonate with it and I wanna get into it. You did talk about struggling with depression and be having suicidal, like, ideation and stuff.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah. Hella suicide.

[Azar Faraday]

He talks about ketamine. I've done ketamine treatments. So how are you now? And like, what advice would you give to women? Because I'm someone who has struggled with like the same, like, just depression or been through stuff. I know a lot of women have and men. Men just aren't as vocal about it.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah, that's sad.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, it's sad because they don't have the opportunity to be as vocal about it. Because who's gonna give a. About him. Him. Which, you know, we will, but not society.

[Amber Rose]

Yes.

[Azar Faraday]

You know, so speaking of that. And I appreciate your vulnerability. I really admire that because it's hard to talk on this. So.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah, I. I mean, I'm. I'm actually doing really good right now. I did do ketamine treatments for a couple months and it literally went away. I recommended to everyone I micro dose. I couldn't do the iv. I don't. I've never done a drug in my life. I was very scared of it. So the micro dosing was cool for me. Which. It just takes a bit longer.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah.

[Amber Rose]

To kind of work. But I did it for like three months.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay.

[Amber Rose]

Three, four months. And girl, one day I just woke up and I was like, I don't give a. About nothing. I swear to God that they do it for war veterans. That's how it started. Yeah. And one day you just wake up and you're just like, I'm not suicidal no more. I don't give a Where that nigga's at, what he's doing. What happened in my childhood, what's going on? I just don't give a fuck. I'm going to the gym and fuck all y'. All. Like, that's what it really does.

[Azar Faraday]

But did it wear off? Because I did. It did. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I did the IV, though.

[Amber Rose]

Oh, girl.

[Azar Faraday]

And I did that for the 10 days back to back to back.

[Amber Rose]

Uh huh.

[Azar Faraday]

And it was popping.

[Amber Rose]

How long did it last, girl?

[Azar Faraday]

Like a few months maybe.

[Amber Rose]

Okay. Mine lasted a year.

[Azar Faraday]

Mine didn't. Yeah.

[Amber Rose]

Okay. So mine lasted a year. A year later the suicidal feelings start coming back. And I had never been suicidal in my life. It was really after the pandemic, I had a newborn.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah.

[Amber Rose]

And I just. I don't know. Yeah. My hormones, everything was just really fucked up. But. And then I did ketamine again. And I've been good ever since. And that, that's like. It's been four, five years now.

[Azar Faraday]

Wow. And so you just microdose it?

[Amber Rose]

I did, yeah.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay, so you did it again and now you feel like now I've been

[Amber Rose]

good for four years. Wow.

[Paul Pierce]

Ketamine. Is that legal?

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, it is ketamine. So I worked for a man and we opened up a bunch of ketamine clinics in la. So the reason I tried it is because he's like, I know you've been through a lot. You've been robbed, you've been raped, you've been this, you've been that. So I went and I did it and it was amazing.

[Paul Pierce]

Like, that sound dangerous?

[Azar Faraday]

No. I mean you're. It's a spa. It's like treatment.

[Amber Rose]

Anyone can abuse any drug you got to think about even like a oxygen, oxycontin, or like a fentanyl. They use fentanyl in hospitals or alcohol.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah.

[Amber Rose]

So if you abuse anything, you know, if you do it the right way, it could really help you.

[Azar Faraday]

It really does. And I appreciate you talking about that. I know you spoke about your mom. She struggled with depression too, very severely.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah, I. I never had a problem with depression or anxiety. It was just like this one off that just threw me.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah.

[Amber Rose]

But my mom had a. My mom had a very, very difficult life. I was essentially like her mother. When I was like 13, 14, 15, I became her mom. Her mom committed suicide in front of her when she was 10.

[Azar Faraday]

I heard you say that.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah.

[Azar Faraday]

So traumatizing.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah. So my mom had very. A lot of mental health issues and I was her only child, so I got the brunt of everything, you know. But life goes on. She's doing good now. She got. She goes to a nice church and.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay.

[Amber Rose]

She's. She has friends and she works at a grocery store.

[Azar Faraday]

Okay.

[Amber Rose]

Just to, you know, keep her mind healthy.

[Paul Pierce]

Just to be around people.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, my mom does that.

[Amber Rose]

She don't gotta worry her page. I pay for all. Everything.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah.

[Amber Rose]

But she does it for her mental Health. And it's good for her.

[Azar Faraday]

My mom does that, too. She doesn't have to work at all.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah.

[Azar Faraday]

And she'll go get random jobs.

[Paul Pierce]

Yes.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah.

[Paul Pierce]

So this is for both y', all knowing that y' all dealt with mental health and used ketamine. Like, was there other options? Did you try to talk to other people? Did you try to, like, indulge yourself in different activities, not think about it? Because, like, when I went through stuff and I just didn't. I just didn't leave the house. When I was going through my little depression, I was just like, I didn't want no friends. I didn't want to leave the house. But then I was trying to talk to people then. That didn't work. I talked to two psychiatrists. That didn't work. I had one meeting with him. I felt like I sat in front of one. I was like, nah, I'm done with this.

[Amber Rose]

You know why? Cause you're smarter than them.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, that's my problem. That happens to me, too.

[Paul Pierce]

But I started feeling better when I lit it out.

[Amber Rose]

That's good.

[Paul Pierce]

You know what I'm saying? And that's a forever. It was, like, decade or something before I just lit it out and started talking more, being open more about when I was traumatized and going through depression for. Yeah, I feel like when you let it out, it's, like, hard. That's out the way.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah.

[Paul Pierce]

So, like, was that ever an option or, you know, was it like.

[Amber Rose]

Well, I feel like, yeah, I think that's a great thing, because if you look at, like, a meetings, you have to say like, hi, my name's Amber, and I'm an alcoholic. Right. You have to say it out loud in order for the healing process to start, you know? So I think that's really admirable, because a lot of men don't. One is they internalize it. And in me, being a mother of two sons, I really, like, advocate for that to. You know, I tell my sons all the time, tell me how you feel. You know, tell me about your experience. You know, communicate with your mama. Let me know everything. And the only time I tell my sons to not be emotional is when it comes to someone being weird or aggressive with them. Because I said, if you react emotionally, you're gonna end up in jail. You're gonna end up hurt. You're gonna end up in a bad situation. But if you have genuine feelings about anything, you could always cry, talk about it, let it out, and release it, because that's the only way to deal

[Paul Pierce]

with It, Yeah, it's more accepted now. Like, men are more like, we can just. Like, the world is open to seeing men cry now. Whereas, like, for me growing up, you gotta be. You gotta be tough out here. Like, little. You walking around, you better. That's a stand out. Like, I don't want to see, like, you fall. Get your ass up, boy.

[Amber Rose]

Well, that's why a lot of black men, yes, mental. Is in shambles because of that. It was like, okay, you're okay. You gotta scrape me. Get up and come and talk to your mom or your dad, let me know what's going on. How do you feel? You know, a lot of times, like, man, shut up. You all right? Get up.

[Azar Faraday]

Go do it again.

[Amber Rose]

You know, and it invalidates a child's feelings. And then they get older and then we deal with these men and they don't know how to communicate or have vulnerability. And we're just like, bro, can you just tell me you love me? Can you just tell me?

[Azar Faraday]

Just hug me and just say it.

[Paul Pierce]

You know, it's crazy when I think about it. I come from an era. If you ride your bike, you fall off your bike, you start crying, your mom might pop you on your head and say, get up. Yeah, like you crying. You like, boy, get up.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, that's abuse. I say this all the time.

[Amber Rose]

It is.

[Azar Faraday]

My dad is 78, black man.

[Amber Rose]

But they didn't know back then.

[Azar Faraday]

That's what I'm saying. Stigmatized. They didn't know. My dad is 78, black man. Never seen him cry. Not one time. I mean, people has died. His sister died. Like, I've never seen that man cry. He's very just, like, cool all the time. And for me, it's like, it is hard. And I want to ask you this, like, how, you know, you've been with black men and you were married to a black man, like Wiz Khalifa. He seems very more in tune with his emotions. But I could be wrong. But, yeah, he seems more open. But how do you deal with communicating? Because I feel like for me, historically, it's been difficult where I'm like, I'm trying to communicate, but a black man shuts down and they don't want to hear it. Or they're like, get like, yeah, whatever. Like, you know, and it's just. It's kind of hard because you're like, I just want you to understand. Understand me. I just want you to love me. And it's always coming from a place of love and never, like, hate.

[Amber Rose]

I mean, I don't Want to sound mean or anything? I don't give a fuck anymore. Deal with your own shit. I got to deal with my own shit. I'm not catering to you no more and your fucking feelings. If you don't know how to communicate and be vulnerable, you not the one for me. Leave me the fuck alone. I'm not your mama. If your mom fucked up, that's on you. That's on you to heal. I healed. I'm good. If you can't heal yourself or you can't be on the way to healing yourself and saying, you know what? I see that I have an issue with being vulnerable and communicating, and I'm willing to work on that with you because I love you enough to do that, then I could stay in that.

[Azar Faraday]

Me too.

[Amber Rose]

But if it's just like, oh, this is who I am, and I don't have time for that shit, leave me the fuck alone. And that's just where I'm at with it.

[Azar Faraday]

I feel that I would. I'm not there, but I do love that, you know, I do feel that 100%. Because it is different. Difficult but standing in that.

[Amber Rose]

I just don't have the patience anymore. Babe.

[Azar Faraday]

I get it. I love that.

[Amber Rose]

Come. Come into my life. Healed.

[Azar Faraday]

Healed. Because it's not my responsibility to tiptoe around your triggers.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah.

[Azar Faraday]

It's not like we all been through shit. I've been through some trauma or say.

[Amber Rose]

Or say, Amber, you know what? What you did or what you said really triggered me. I just want to talk about it and. Cool. We could talk about it. That's okay.

[Azar Faraday]

Mature convo and get to a resolution and be like, all right. People go through shit. Let's get through.

[Amber Rose]

And I'm gonna tell you. I'll be like, I apologize. I'm so sorry. I did not even realize that I said that. And I apologize. Let me make you some. Something to eat. Like, let me make it better for you, babe. That's how I am.

[Azar Faraday]

I'm the same fucking way. Like, I will be so apologetic. Like, I'm really sorry. Yeah, I fucked up. Cause I'm imperfect.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah.

[Azar Faraday]

Never gonna be perfect.

[Paul Pierce]

And then you'll make something to eat after that.

[Azar Faraday]

I will suck a dick and make something to eat for sure. But, you know, if the. If. If the response is correct, though, that's a fact. If the response is like, still aggressive and still like, whatever, I do it back up, then it's like, well, damn,

[Amber Rose]

go make your own food. Pack your own dinner.

[Azar Faraday]

If your response is, yes, I'm crying like, if you still want to hold on to shit without trying to be apologetic and be cool, then, yeah, go. Bye. And even still, my dumb ass will still be apologizing that night, the next morning, the next day.

[Amber Rose]

I'm done with that. I'm done with that.

[Azar Faraday]

And I'll still apologize like, I'm sorry, please, baby. But that's just how I am. But anyways, that's real. Okay, so getting into. Recently, you've been streaming. I know. That's the new thing. I seen you last night. You were streaming, right?

[Amber Rose]

All day. 12 hours yesterday.

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[Amber Rose]

That was.

[Azar Faraday]

That's a long day.

[Amber Rose]

It was a long day.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah. Damn. So I saw Adrienne Bronner.

[Amber Rose]

Yes.

[Azar Faraday]

And he just seems. Girl, a mess. So what was that like? Because I know they were all over you on you.

[Paul Pierce]

I saw a lot of clips on that.

[Azar Faraday]

Like, of course they were, period.

[Paul Pierce]

Hey, they funny. I ain't gonna lie. They funn.

[Amber Rose]

They are funny.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah, but how did you feel?

[Azar Faraday]

Did you ever feel uncomfortable? Did you feel cool? What was the vibe?

[Amber Rose]

So I would say I felt uncomfortable because I had never did a subathon before, which is all day, 24 hours a day. Like, you know, cameras on you. Excuse me. So I had never done that before. So when I first walked in, I was just meeting them.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah.

[Azar Faraday]

And A.B.

[Amber Rose]

i have met A.B. in passing throughout the years. Like, I never really. I never hung out with him or anything. But, yeah, I was just walking into something that I had never experienced before. And he's just pushing up on me, like, you know, like, I just, you know, what about us? Can we just try? And I'm like, can we try? It's crazy, you know?

[Azar Faraday]

Like, he was smelling your chair.

[Amber Rose]

He was smelling my chair.

[Azar Faraday]

He was licking your water bottle. I'm like, this man is gone over this lady.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah, it was a lot. It was a lot to walk into. But I think. I think, like, going into it, you're like, okay, they're. They're constantly trolling. They're making the stream, like, funny.

[Paul Pierce]

Yeah, but.

[Amber Rose]

But sometimes you're like, is this my serious?

[Paul Pierce]

Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Amber Rose]

I don't know if he's playing. Right. I knew he was playing five minutes ago. I don't know if he's playing right now.

[Paul Pierce]

No, I'm serious. He like.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah, no. Yeah, he was dead ass. He was dead ass. Serious.

[Paul Pierce]

AB was dead ass.

[Azar Faraday]

I think he is.

[Paul Pierce]

And I think right now he was dead ass.

[Azar Faraday]

You know what had me rolling when you was like, this stomach is alcohol, baby.

[Amber Rose]

You gotta you gotta something's out to here.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, he was like, that's a little too much stomach for me.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah, that's not my type. I could do a hot dad bod like it don't gotta be a six pack. But that is insane.

[Azar Faraday]

Yeah, that's insane. But you have histor. You have historically dated really like kind of attractive, attractive men.

[Amber Rose]

You think so?

[Azar Faraday]

I think you have. Thank you for that.

[Amber Rose]

Because everyone says I date ugly.

[Azar Faraday]

Wait, why? Because Wiz is attractive.

[Amber Rose]

I think he's very attractive.

[Azar Faraday]

He's extremely attractive. Like he's a vibe.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah.

[Azar Faraday]

For show. And then you were with the AE guy.

[Amber Rose]

Yes, he's. That's my son's father.

[Azar Faraday]

Their son's father. He's attractive. Yeah, you know, like MGK MJ. Is that his MGK machine gun Kelly? He's attractive.

[Amber Rose]

Yeah, he's attractive.

[Azar Faraday]

100% if I say that. But I honestly feel like you've been with me mainly attractive men. Like, I feel like I've been with like medium. Like, not all the time, but my not like medium. No, no, no. My past is like, I like a medium ugly man. I don't want a man that's more in the mirror than me.

[Amber Rose]

That's like, I love a pretty. Pretty.

[Azar Faraday]

So you like a pretty. Because I could see the type of man you've been with are like real pretty men. Like, but you guys compliment each other.

[Paul Pierce]

Well, she said the other day that the dude was on Love island, was gorgeous.

[Azar Faraday]

Who?

[Paul Pierce]

Which one?

[Azar Faraday]

No, no, no. Have you watched Love Island? Yeah, girl, I love it. So wait a minute, wait a minute. I don't like his personality.

[Amber Rose]

I know, I know.

[Azar Faraday]

Who you gonna say I don't like his personality. But Corbin is traditionally gorgeous.

[Amber Rose]

I don't think he is ever. That's not my type.

[Azar Faraday]

That's not my type. That's not my type. I like medium ugly. Like, I will go for Casey over

[Amber Rose]

a Corbin for me, but okay, Casey's sexy.

[Azar Faraday]

I would go for Casey. Yeah.

[Paul Pierce]

Which one is that?

[Amber Rose]

The dark skinned one.

[Azar Faraday]

Dark skinned black man. I would deal with Casey over Corbin, but Corbin, you can't lie. Traditionally though, you don't.

[Amber Rose]

He has a hot body, I'll give you that. And a nice hairline, but other than that, I don't. I'm not into his face like that.

[Azar Faraday]

So who's your most attractive on Love Island? Oh, my God. We'll cut this out, bring it over here. Put it right here.

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[Azar Faraday]

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[Amber Rose]

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