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And Doug. Oh, what a horrible call. Hey, ref, Open your eyes.
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B
Ref.
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A
You're really not gonna call that? Come on.
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C
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I don't think you get what we're doing.
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A
Sure I do.
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C
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B
What's up man? I'm good man. Thanks for having me. I feel real good.
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A
No, thanks for having me. Thanks for joining us. Take Us through Saturday night. You go into that fight, you move up five pounds, you're 130. Fighter, you move up and you feeling. I mean, everybody's let, man, they know he got no chance. Tank told you a couple of days earlier, he going, hey, you not going the distance. Y' all shake very little. 250, whatever the case may be, you go into that fight, you know, Tank's a slow starter, builds up as the fight progresses. Know he's trying to land hook to the body, come up top with it. What was your process? What were you going into that fight? How did you want to fight, and did the fight turn out the way you thought it would?
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B
Well, honestly, yeah. The fight went exactly how we planned it to go, honestly. You know, we familiar with him, we've been familiar with him. We just knew it was a matter of time for everything to fall into play. And back to the whole everybody not giving me a shot, saying I'm gonna get knocked out and all this and all that. I know what I'm capable of, and I know what I could do. Like, they, they just. In a nutshell, they had. They had me totally messed up and. Right. Especially when he bet me saying he was gonna stop me. What do I do? I told him himself. I said, you tripping. I said, I don't know what got into your head these last couple minutes, few days, whatever the case, you tripping, you, you know you're not going to do that. I don't even know why I told him. I said, I know you know you're not going to do that. Cut it out.
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D
Yeah, hey, listen, when you talk about. You're very familiar with them, and I understand you and your team, you went into the fight with a game plan. Is the familiarity, the fact that you guys probably trained together in the past or you've been in camp together in the past, you sparred together. Is that why you were so familiar in whatever game plan your team did have and were able to execute? Is that why it went so well?
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B
I mean. Yeah, it's one. It's one of the many reasons why it went so well. Even though we were kids, you know, some of them traits, characteristics and just ways of a man, like, grew with him.
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G
Yeah.
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B
So, you know, some of the. Some of, like, some of the dirty tactics, I knew that he, you know, revert to that when that pressure built up, when somebody that was there wasn't scared of him, when somebody was there that was there to return fire. And you know what I'm saying, he ain't been in the ring in his professional career. He hasn't been in the ring with something like that or something like the caliber of what I got. Right?
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D
So what I thought, obviously watching the fight, and when I look at all his tank fights, most of the time, obviously he starts slow. And then round five, six, he starts to pick it up a little bit. And by the time as he's picking it up, normally his opponent is deteriorating. The condition ain't where it's supposed to be. But I'm looking at you. They get to round six and seven and he coming forward, and you ain't even. You not even moving. So at that point, y' all mid range and you sitting in the pocket. And most of the time, when he hits somebody, they retreat. But you get. You took one to give one. I'm like, what e boy going at it? I'm like, so did the power not affect you in any way where you didn't really care? Where you just sat in the pocket with him in exchange? Because most of the time, I mean, you gotta be cautious. You gotta be cautious because when throwing punches, you know, you got a chance to get hit. You know, when you let him go, did you not care at all, or did you feel his power early and really wasn't worried about it?
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B
So it wasn't that I wasn't caring. I was cautious. Like you said, I was cautious, but the defense is there and the confidence was through the roof. And I got a chin. You keep a spade, a spade, like, you know what I'm saying? I see why he knocked people out.
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D
Yeah.
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B
I'm not going to say the power is overrated, but I've been in there with guys who can punch. I mean, like, with guys who can punch. So it's like it was nothing new to me. I've been in there with middleweight champions. I've been in there with junior middleweight champions. I mean, like, as they were champion in their prime and stuff like that. So it's like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I was confident on what I could do defensively. And if I get hit, I know, I know. I was gonna give it right back.
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G
Right?
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So listen, in the ninth round, I'm sorry, you know, you know, I get excited about. I don't mean to take over. Listen, hey, young bull, in the ninth round, you know, Javante took a knee. Obviously there's some controversy behind that. It wasn't ruled a knockdown by the referee. I've never seen that ever. And in my years of watching, you know, watching boxing enjoy, enjoying the sport of combat sports in general, did that moment impact your strategy for the remainder of the fight?
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B
I'm going say no. And let me tell you why. The simple fact that he took the knee is, is it was really a, a boost. Because it's like, all right, it's all right. What we doing is working. We, we know that. Yeah, he looking for something. It should have been a knockdown one. So that's why I'm yelling at the referee, like, keep counting. Like you tripping. Keep counting. That's a knockdown. Because if y' all didn't notice, he started to count. He started to count.
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A
He did.
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D
And then he stops.
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B
He stopped. Okay, so, so when we, when he, yeah. Resumed the action I'm like, what you doing? Keep counting. Like, you can't do that, right? So. And then it wasn't even registering or processing through my mind the other rules, right to the simple fact that he could have got disqualified for having his corner come up to the ring and assist him during the round or do that, or he can't turn his back on, like, during the fight. That's Cause for. That's. That's the wave at all. He took a knee and then turned around and went to the corner. Breath would usually turn it. Turn, turn, or stop the fight.
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D
Oh, I ain't.
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B
I ain't.
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D
I ain't know that.
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A
I'm watching you. A lot of times when people hit Tank, like Ocho was saying, they retreat, but it seemed like you had a strategy. Like, if he hit me, I'm gonna hit his ass back just as hard as. As many times as he hit me. And I don't think he expected you to return the kind of fire that you returned because you wobbled him a couple of times. And I'm not so sure that I've seen Tank wobble. Like, when you caught him a couple of times and you was getting through the guard. I mean, hey, normally a southpaw fighter, that lead right is a home run right down, and it's right down Broad street. And you kept touching him with it, for sure.
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B
It was one of the. It was one of the many things that we trained for. Obviously, he happy go lucky with his left. And they've been working for his whole career. He's been knocking these dudes out. So, you know, we've been training, we've been sitting on the left, being able to. Working on countering, working on, you know, being able to block and come back. We had some pretty fast guys, and then we had some pretty strong guys that I had to, you know, switch rounds with every, like, you know, every sponsors. So, you know, we was ready, we was prepared. And like you said, them dudes wasn't really, really cracking him back. And I was really throwing that fire at him. And the accuracy was really. Probably pissed them off, too. And the fact that I was busy, it's like, all right, this ain't stopping.
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A
Yeah, I thought you did an unbelievable job of keeping the pace up. Like Ocho said, he's a guy that likes to start slow, so he has some energy reserve. So when he comes out from five through 12, he's like, I got a lot left. I know. Hey, I ain't really spent no gas. Hey, I just been coasting I've been on electric mode now. I got this fire, I got this gas in the tank, I'm finna unleash. But it meant you met fire with fire. And I've heard Floyd say that like when he went into a fight, he never watched tape on the guy that he was fighting. He left that up to his corner to watch the fight and then tell him instructions. He would take all that information and, and then once he got into the ring, blah, blah, blah. Do you watch fight, do you, when you going against a fighter, do you watch them or you leave that up to your corner to watch and then give you an instruction to what you should do?
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B
I don't watch them a lot. I'm just so, I just so happen to be a boxing fan that the fact that I do watch him fight, you know what I'm saying? Like, I really like boxing and he is, he's somebody to watch. He's a spectacle, he's a knockout artist, skilled guy, like one of the, one of the better pound for pound fighters. I like watching good fights, so I do know some of his tendencies, but to study him, not really. I left it up to my dad. But one time, one day, like one day in camp, we did sit down and watch a few of his fights back to back.
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D
Okay, hey, listen, Tank, Tank has publicly expressed interest, obviously in a rematch. You want to rematch as well. Are you open to immediate rematch or do you have, you don't need a tune up, do you have a tune up fight just to keep yourself going or do y' all run it right back?
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B
Immediate, immediate. Just to let y' all know, like in my contract, immediate rematch was signed, I signed for the immediate rematch. When I signed for the first fight, just in case he lost or just in case it was a draw. So they put that clause in there, they put a rematch clause in there. So I already signed the rematch clause.
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D
Okay, so when you got a rematch clause, how long we taking, how long is the break before you start training again? Is it, is it six months from now?
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B
Is it up to the A side and when they want to fight? So I'm thinking it's going to be soon, but I'm hoping it's going to be soon. Let's say that, I mean, I'm saying.
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D
From a boxing standpoint as a boxer, what is soon to you? I mean, when you say soon to me, I'm thinking a month. I know that's July.
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A
I'm thinking July.
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B
I'm thinking July. Thinking July. Okay, okay.
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A
But if I, if I'm not. If I'm not mistaken, Lamont, I think I read something that he reached out to Lomachenko side and see if they were interested. Did you see. Did you read that also?
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B
Did you see that? But you can't. You gotta. You can't believe everything you see. And if it is. If it is true, then, you know, that'd be funny. But I'm pretty sure the rematch happens, and I'm pretty sure that's the next fight for both of us.
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A
But let me ask you this. Would you be interested. Go ahead. I'm just. Would you be interested in fighting Lomo or Teofimo Lopez or.
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Or me?
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B
Oh, hold up, Chad.
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A
Hold up.
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B
Hold up, Chad.
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A
Hey, put pause on it. Put pause on it.
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B
Hey, Chad, I mean, hey, if. I don't know if you've seen me fight Saturday, I really do this.
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D
Yeah, I would dare.
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B
I was there.
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A
I.
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D
Listen, I've been studying you for years.
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B
You hear me? Okay, I could.
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D
Listen, listen. I don't have the time, but I could tell you your tendencies right now.
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A
Round one through seven.
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B
Okay?
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D
So if we was to get in there and spar right now, I could tell you what you're gonna do by looking at your feet. You. When you.
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H
When you.
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D
When you got your hand down by your hip. I already. And you step forward, you're gonna faint. No, it.
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A
I ain't gonna.
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B
I ain't.
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D
No more keys. But listen, I've been studying you. I know you. So if you want to spot at any point, if you get ready for.
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B
The next call, right? I think I've seen you work yourself, right?
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D
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got Hands.
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A
He got no power, though.
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B
He got no power.
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A
And he got p. He got pull ups at the end of his arm. He ain't got no power. Lamont.
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D
Hey, Lamont, listen, they.
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A
They throw a number of cake blows.
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B
Nah, nah, nah.
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D
Ain't no. Hey, Lamont.
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E
They.
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A
They.
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D
Where I'm from, they call me Hella Hands. Yeah, they call me Hella Hands. But listen, reflecting on your performance right in that fight, bro, I don't. Your game plan was phenomenal. Everything you did, you executed from round one all the way to 12. After you have a fight like that and you put on a show like that. What aspects? I mean, like, what's.
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E
How many.
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D
How do you improve off of that? Because if they. If you were to grade your performance that night, you get an A plus.
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B
Yeah.
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D
So what do you go back. What do you go back and work on after putting on a goddamn show like that, man.
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B
Just, just, just going on. See, my thing is I always want to get better all the time. No matter if I do have a good performance or not, I just go back and I watch the tape and see what, what he do. Obviously, if whatever he come with, the next one, that we just gotta still capitalize. We're gonna add to what works. If it ain't, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. But we're gonna just, we're gonna add to it.
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A
We're gonna build, we're gonna build, we're gonna build.
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B
Might try to, you know, pick it up so we can see if we can get that stoppage or not. You know what I'm saying? Never know. That's how you capitalize.
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D
Yeah, yeah. Well, your condition was on point, boy.
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B
Old school fighter, man. 15 round fighter over here, man. For real, for sure. I was in camps, 14 rounds.
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D
Wait, what time or no time?
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B
No, what time? For sure, what time?
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D
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Cause you know, I did 22 rounds, no clock.
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B
Chad, we gonna get you a camp. Maybe you could get me ready for the rematch.
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D
Bring me. Hey, matter of fact, bring me to camp. I ain't gonna charge you. I ain't gonna charge you. I give you, I give you four rounds. I let somebody else go forward and I come back for another exchange.
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B
No robbery. I like that.
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A
All right, bet man. Lamont, will you put Paul on this, man? Don't beat him up too bad because I need him. I need it for nightcap. So I don't want him to come back. Talk about slur. And I don't want him to come back.
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B
He gonna be all right, I think gonna be all right.
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A
You getting body blows. Don't, don't hit him on his head yet. Just give him body blows.
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D
I'm good, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. My defense, My defense is my offense. I ain't gonna get hit.
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A
Lamar, a lot of times when guys win and they get a rematch, they like, well, I don't have anything to improve upon. And they, they run into a problem because you had a draw, do you. Can you go back and say, you know what, in this situation here, I should have did this instead of that and I might have been able to land something. Is that how you go back and approach the fight because you didn't get the win and so you like, well, I didn't get, I didn't lose technically, but I didn't win either. And I think as a fighter, you know, draws and ties, that ain't what we do it for. We want to be win. We want to be on the top spot. And because you didn't land on the top spot, you feel that. You know what? Go back and watch this fight through 12 rounds. Maybe if I pick it up through the first three or four rounds, maybe that's a round or two that I win. And we don't even have this discussion at the end because it looked like they gave you round 12. Had you not won round 12, he would have won the fight.
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B
Which is sad, honestly. So to me, I thought I won the fight. Clearly, I thought I won a close fight. I thought I won a very competitive fight. I'm not saying I steamrolled him or whatever, but to me, I think I won a fight. Now granted, ninth round should have been called a knockdown. Two judges on the official scorecards gave him the round 10 9. If that was a knockdown, I went around 10 8. That's a three point swing. I will win a unanimous decision. So you got to take all of that into account. It's three ways that it's three things that could have happened in that ninth round alone. With that knee, it could have been a 108 round scored a knockdown could have been a disqualification or I could have won by tko. So honestly, hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for.
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B
When you look at that and you say I got a draw against the number one spectacle in America, a pound for pound talent and a guy with a 90% knockout ratio. You look at it and like okay, if you got a draw, more than likely you supposed to win that night. So even though I didn't get to win, I'm not a moral victory guy. I'm pissed that I didn't win, honestly.
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A
Right, Exactly.
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B
I'm pissed that I didn't win. But I really think that that I should have. A lot of people think that I should have. And the rematch is just going to make it worse for him because I got to rev it up. Like you said, I gotta do something. I gotta do something. I gotta pick it up somewhere to turn this around and make it a victory for me.
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A
Lamont, you're moving up from super featherweight to lightweight. Were you afraid that moving up might rob you of some of the pot? Because that's, you know, normally guys that move up, they lose some of the sting. Were you concerned about that? Are you going to stay. Are you going to stay at Super Feather? Are you looking to move up to maybe go to 135, 140, even higher?
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B
Now, one thing that 135 gave me is a lot more sting. I ain't gonna lie. Five less pounds I had to lose. So, you know, I felt.
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A
So what do you normally walk around at Lamont?
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B
Normally, I want to say, if it's 50, 55, especially if I'm in the gym. No, no, I walk around like 150. Somewhere around 150, 149. On a good day, if I'm on vacation, I don't get no higher than 55, so.
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A
Okay, okay, so you. So I think that works. I think that's one of the things that helped Floyd Mayweather. Because Floyd is not a naturally big man. So it was easy for him to stay at 147. Cause Florida only walking around at like 155 to begin with. So he go for six, eight weeks, he lose five pounds.
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B
That's his sweet spot, for sure. For sure.
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A
And that's another thing with you. It's not like you walking around 165, 160, 165, and you gotta strip down 35, 30 pounds, you only having to come down 10, maybe even 15 pounds at a max. So that's a lot. That's not, that's not that drastic. Where you see these guys have to go through this, this, this massive dehydration in order to make weight. Because it, man, you keep doing that, fluctuating your body, man, it takes something out of you.
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B
It definitely takes a toll on you for sure.
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D
Hey, listen, after a fight like this, how much time do y' all take off? Like, I mean, before you get back in and gradually just start building yourself back, not only in the shape, but just making sure you don't lose that rhythm and consistency.
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B
Tough man. Especially how boxing is today, that's more so like a personal. So me personally, I don't like being out the gym too long. I get. I get cussed out by my. By my doctor because he tell me to take a break. You know what I'm saying? Like, right. So And I understand, because your body do need to heal, rest. I've been through an eight week training camp and then went through a hard 12 round fight. So, you know. Yeah, you know, got to get your body together, take some time off. Because when you peak, when you peak and you peek at the right time, and I think I peaked at the perfect time Saturday night, right? It's, you know, it depletes you. So I get a little rest, I get a little rest. Probably like two weeks. Then I'm. I want to be back in the gym one, because I probably get you heavy and I'm like, I don't feel, I don't feel right, right?
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D
You don't feel right.
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B
Yeah, I'll be bored. I normally be in the gym, so that's how I go.
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D
Where you live at?
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B
I live in D.C. okay. Okay.
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G
I'm.
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D
Make a little trip down there, man. Whenever you get back in the gym and you want to start sparring, I'm gonna come down there and I got.
- [26:37]
B
I got a little bit. I'm a bad man, Chad. I don't know.
- [26:39]
D
I know, I know. I'm a bad man, too. That's what my teacher called me when I was in high school. Well, listen, I got a little bet for you, right? We gonna do eight rounds, right?
- [26:46]
B
We gonna do eight rounds, if you can.
- [26:48]
D
Yeah, we gonna do eight. Yeah, if you can beat me at least four rounds. Now, you know, LeBron James, he just scored 50,000 points, right? He sent, he sent me the ball. If you could beat me, if you could win more rounds of me, I send you this ball.
- [27:05]
B
He gave me that right? Now we set that up. Milestone. We're gonna set that up for sure.
- [27:11]
A
You gonna take that ball above him. You gonna get that ball above him.
- [27:15]
D
Okay.
- [27:17]
B
Right on top of the belt.
- [27:18]
A
Okay.
- [27:18]
D
Matter of fact, I'm gonna make it easy for you. I'm only using my jab handle.
- [27:22]
B
Man, you giving me, you giving, you giving it away?
- [27:25]
D
Nah, I mean, listen, I can take what I'm gonna do and still win. That's what I do. I told you they called me hella hand.
- [27:30]
B
You giving the prize away. LeBron ain't gonna like that.
- [27:34]
D
Oh, no, you ain't gonna get that. You think I'm. You think I'm gonna lose you and, and lose that ball? Michelle, the devil is alive.
- [27:42]
A
Hey, let me, let me ask, let me ask you this, Lamont. After the Tank fight, who would you like to fight after Tank? Are you gonna stay? Are you gonna go? Are you gonna stay? If you, if you go back, if you rematch, you beat tank at 135, are you gonna stay at 135 or slide back down to 130 or go up even to 140?
- [28:02]
B
It depends on what's available. If the champions at 35 are available, I want to fight them, I want to unify, obviously that's good for my career. That's like legacy fights. And on top of that they big money fights, money. If they not, if they're not available, I would go definitely defend my title at 30 and probably try to unify there because I can make 30 comfortably and, and I feel like I, I run that division like I probably can even go undisputed if they let me.
- [28:35]
A
That's Lady Lamar. Being a student of the game. I know you heard your dad, you weren't around there, but I know your dad has told you or whomever in your corner about the four Kings, Hearns, Hagler, Duran, Leonard and how they fought each other and all the top contenders in that they fought him. You go back to the 70s, you look at the heavyweights they fought Norton fought Ali, he fought Frazier, he fought Shavers, he fought Ali. Nobody ducked. Why is it now, Lamont, that we have guys and they want to cherry pick and don't want to take it seemed like. And I love Floyd, but Floyd that 50 and O because nobody wants to take an ass whipping now. Because now they feel like my legacy is ruined. I lost the fight. Some of the great fighters, we don't look at Ali because he lost three or four times even when he looked bad fighting Trevor Berbick or Larry Holmes. We don't hold that against them, we don't hold against Leonard, we don't hold against Hagler, we don't hold against Hearns, we don't hold against nobody. I don't know and I hate that. I love Floyd and I'm glad he's undefeated. But everybody thinks now if I be undefeated, I'm going to be revered like Floyd. And it's not going to happen.
- [29:49]
E
It ain't.
- [29:50]
B
Floyd is one of a kind fighter, man in a caliber he is. Even if a lot of people do go undefeated and retire undefeated, it's not going to be the same. And it's not going to be the same because Floyd put in his work. Floyd, Floyd fought them guys when, when he was able to. He fought everybody, he fought them guys and he, he earned the, the right to fight who he wanted to, when he wanted to. Whatever the case may be. He that's, that's just A once in a lifetime fighter. I don't know why the guys are not. Well, maybe I do. I. I'm gonna give you a little scoop. These guys are worried about the money that they can make. If they told you if they still have a O on their record, they think that a blemish would knock down the value of their con. Whatever they have in their contract or whatever they have presented to them, which is, you know, crazy to me. I think if you put on a good enough fight, no matter if you win or lose, the performance is what matters. It's really what matters. So people want to pay to see you fight. If you fight the good fights, that's what, that's what they're gonna pay. That's. They're gonna pay to see it. That's why pay per view numbers used to be so high, because people are going to pay. They want to see certain fights. They want to see them fights.
- [31:16]
A
Look at Mickey, look at Mickey Ward and Arturo Gotti. That was jam packed. Laws didn't matter. People still pay big money to see that because they know they was going to get action. Yeah, but now Lamont, guys like, you know what, yeah, if I fought Lamont, I can make 15 mil. But if I fight this guy that I know I can whip, I can make 10. So why take the chance for an extra 5 when I can get this can over here and I can whip him for 10? So I just get me a couple, I get me 5 or 10, I give me 5 or 10 of the $10 million fight. Why would I need to take a risk for two of those big fights? Nah, I ain't gonna do that.
- [31:52]
D
But then, Unc, you gotta think about that. Lamont, I told Unc the other night, we talked about this too, right? Not only do certain people not want to take risks, but you want to build it up until you get to the really, really good fight. So if you got like you talk about the folk kings back then back in the day, right? And today, if you got the best boxes, right? And if all the best boxers fight each other right now and not have fight after fight after fight and actually build it so people wanna actually, actually want to watch and you can maximize your pay, that's a little different. Think about how long before Earl and Bud actually fought. Look how long it took, look how many fights they had because there was a buildup to it. So from that standpoint, I kind of get it and understand you want to maximize your pay. You also, nobody wants to lose, but at some point they Ain't gonna have no choice but to fight each other.
- [32:42]
A
But Ocho, you gotta fight.
- [32:43]
D
The timing gotta be right.
- [32:45]
A
But think about it. And Lamont, you know this. Sugar ray went to 160 to flag.
- [32:49]
E
Hagler.
- [32:50]
B
Definitely did.
- [32:50]
A
Hearns went up.
- [32:51]
B
Definitely did.
- [32:52]
A
He didn't come down. He. They went to him.
- [32:55]
B
They did. Because they're similar.
- [32:58]
A
130, 135. They went up 2. Sugar Ray was 147, went to 160. Hagler Hearns was 147, went to 160.
- [33:08]
B
You definitely right about that.
- [33:10]
A
That's middleweight.
- [33:11]
B
And Ray Ray and Duran started at 35, so.
- [33:19]
D
He was that small.
- [33:20]
B
One of the best lightweights to ever do it.
- [33:23]
A
Yeah.
- [33:24]
D
Horse hands.
- [33:25]
A
A lot of. A lot of those guys started. Yes, a lot of those guys started there. Ocho, 30, 35. Fort Floyd, 30, 35, 40, 47. And Ford. De La Hoya, 54. Yeah. Oh, yeah. A lot of them guys. Yeah. And have. Pacquiao is an anomaly. Pacquiao started at like 1, 106, 112, and blew through and blew through everything.
- [33:51]
B
Eight division champion, and still knocking them out.
- [33:53]
A
Yeah, you're not gonna see that. You even. Even when you look at Armstrong, you look at all those guys, nobody's doing this again. Nobody's gonna do that. Yeah. I mean, basically, you'd have to start at, say you'd have to start at like 140 and go to heavyweight to try to try to clean out everything. If that ain't happening at all. I mean, Roy was an anomaly.
- [34:14]
G
Yeah.
- [34:15]
A
Roy went from 60, 68.
- [34:16]
B
Said it 10 years straight. Middleweight, heavyweight.
- [34:20]
A
Roy was. If Roy had had. Roy just stayed there and not stripped the muscle that he put on to go to heavy. Because I think that took a lot out of him. That took too much out of him. He probably should have stayed. He probably should have never come back down or just took his time. But Roy won the title. Couldn't get nobody else to fight. Gave the title up and came back down. And he wasn't the same after Tarver beat him that one time. He was never the same. Cause he got started getting beat by fighters that Roy would have mopped the floor inside of five rounds with him.
- [34:51]
B
Yeah.
- [34:52]
A
So what's next, Tank? I mean, excuse me. What's next, Lamont? What's next after this Tank fight? You say you want to fight whoever the big money fight is. Who? A Lomo, Teofimo, Haney, Garcia.
- [35:05]
B
Who else at 135 right now? Shakur, Keshawn Davis.
- [35:11]
G
Okay.
- [35:11]
B
And Lomachenko, okay? That's who we're gonna be looking at after, you know what I'm saying? After. After I be tank. After I be tank in the rematch, you know, if them guys ain't available, then we gonna go to 30 and defend my 130 pound championship.
- [35:29]
D
So listen, out of those three you just named, who would you prefer to fight first if you can't get all three? If you had a preference.
- [35:35]
B
If I had a preference, I don't really got a preference. I would put a blindfold on and pick whichever one. It don't matter what I'm talking about.
- [35:44]
A
Whoever want this ass, hey, tell Lamont. Whoever want this ass whipping. That's why. As a matter of fact, I tell you what, I tell you what, Lomo, you gonna get it first, so you gonna get it after I get tanked. When I get tank, I'm gonna get you at the first of the year. Hey, Shakur, I'm gonna come see you in July at Keyshawn David. Hey, at the end of the year or 27, I got your. I got you ass with me, too.
- [36:09]
B
Sound good to me. Yeah, sound real good.
- [36:13]
A
Hey, man, I appreciate it. Congratulations. Great fight. It wasn't the outcome that you had hoped for because you trained for eight weeks, had a great camp, and you put the time in to win. It didn't go his way. But who knows what's going to happen July, August, when the next fight come around. Wish you the best. And guess what? Come back and join us again when the fight happens, and we'll see what happens after that. Lamar, appreciate it. Appreciate you, man.
- [36:36]
B
I appreciate both of you.
- [36:37]
D
All right, I'm gonna see.
- [36:38]
B
I'm gonna see you in D.C. no doubt. Yeah, get my contact. We'll bring you out for sure.
- [36:42]
E
All right.
- [36:44]
A
Hey, Body. Cause he need to talk.
- [36:49]
B
You know.
- [36:49]
A
Yeah, that's what I want you to do. Yeah, yeah, that's what I want you. That's what I would do here.
- [36:55]
B
Yeah, I got. I'll make sure I record it too. We have it on. On the nightcap.
- [36:58]
A
That's what I'll need you to do. Record it.
- [37:00]
D
All right, all right, all right, all right.
- [37:02]
A
Appreciate that, Levi. Have a good one.
- [37:04]
B
Thank you.
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H
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B
Man.
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A
Joining us. I know it's late. I don't know if he here in the A or he died in Miami. That's the biggest boss you ever saw. That's the homie, Ricky Rose. What it do?
- [40:31]
E
What it do, family? What it do, fam? What's happening, my two brothers?
- [40:35]
A
What it do, bro?
- [40:36]
D
What it do, baby?
- [40:37]
A
Everything good, man.
- [40:39]
E
Everything good, baby. You know we shining on this side.
- [40:41]
A
Yeah, I hear you, man. It's late. I'm sorry we kept you up this late, boss, but we had to get y' all here, man. Tell us what's going on. I know the car show is in June, but you got something happening before June. Tell us all about it.
- [40:52]
E
Most definitely The Car Show, June 7. But what we kicking off tomorrow in Louisville is the millennium tour. You better believe it. The millennium tour ignores a lot of stars on the tour, but what made it exciting to me is me coming back out, bringing my new artist, Nino Breeze, back out to hit the stage. Trey songs, Omarion, Bow wow, Plies, Boosie. The list goes on. Kentucky, y' all better rock with us. It's gonna be special. Now.
- [41:21]
A
Ro, let me ask you this. When you go on, okay, you want to go on tour, right? How do you decide the artist that you want to be on that. That you want to go on tour with? You. How do you come? How do you like? Okay, I want him.
- [41:33]
B
I want her.
- [41:33]
A
I want this. I want that. How do you decide that, boss?
- [41:36]
E
Well, whenever I call the shots in this my tour, it's usually somebody that I got a relationship with, jail with. And on the third act, you might want to throw something else out there just for the crowd. That which would be a different vibe, Right? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So this right here, this is the millennium tour. This has been a legendary tour that's been going on for many years now. And I felt it'd be good for me to come hit the stage. Nino Breeze hit the stage. We do it big, close it out, put our jewels on, put our gear on five way. You know how we do that thing?
- [42:10]
D
Oh, yeah.
- [42:11]
E
I mean, so it's gonna crazy city to city.
- [42:14]
D
Listen, boss man, We've been friends, man. It gotta be. We gotta be going on 20 years by now. Boy, we got to be 20 years, man. Listen, you. You've always been known. I've been known to talk to, you know, in. In our own personal conversation. In your interviews, you always dropping wisdom for the people that are listening. What's the best financial advice you've ever received? Because you're one of the most savvy businessmen and you're very, very good with your money. Because as an artist, I don't think people understand how difficult it is. And what you've been able to do and accomplish is maintaining longevity. Not just getting it, but maintaining it long term, man. Please tell the people, man, how you've been able to do it, because not very many, as long as rap has been around, everybody hasn't been able to maintain longevity.
- [43:03]
E
Well, for Rose, it's really. It's the consistency. You know, I got my hands in 20 different things. Everything may not win as much as others, and some may not win at all. But when you win, make sure you win big. When you repping something, you hold it up high everywhere you go. That's why I love staying on tour, love going across the country. Because when I go, my brands go, my teams go, and we rep all around the world, wherever we go, and that's how we do it. You know what I mean? Then when you come back home, buy you a little piece of land, they can make that car, but they can't buy that corner. They got to come see you to get that corner.
- [43:41]
A
If you own that corner. That's what we talk about. But, boss, if you think about it, boss, music might have got you started. That might be your foundation, right? I need where you make the most of your money at, boss, you. And that's what. Look at hov. Hov might have got started in music, but ho got a whole lot he a billionaire because of something else.
- [44:03]
E
It's definitely. That's what it is. The. The music introduced us to the world. Now you got to take it to where you want to take it to, and you got to earn it, but you got to turn it all the way up. And as long as you stay solid, keep your fleet, your face clean, and you mean what you say.
- [44:21]
A
Yeah, boss. When I look at you and I. I hear you talk, man. And I like brothers that get in paper, but don't talk down about somebody else. Because a lot of times we have the propensity, Ross, that we make it a little paper or somebody make a little paper. More than us that we start to feel some type of way and we try to be negative towards that paper. When we got there's an opportunity. And I told, I was telling, I was telling Ocho this the other day. 80% of the money that's in circulation has been printed since 2020. So what that tell me, Ross, if they run out of money, they'll print some more. If your boy get, if your boy getting all of it, don't worry about it. Just wait a couple of days, they gonna go back to the factory, they're gonna print some more for you.
- [45:02]
E
You already know. And we gonna make sure they keep printing us some. And when it come to us getting paper, we ain't talking down on nobody. This motivational purposes only. Whenever you see that jet fly in, you see that yacht pull up, all that's the hard work. You see the fun times, you see the, the rewards. But you got to see the grind. When you come to my story every morning you go hear Rose preaching, let's go get it. Let's do something new. You got to get that piss out the back of that toilet. You got to get the rust off the side of mama house. It's 2025. We can't be bullshit, man. We going all the way up, man.
- [45:43]
A
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D
Hey, listen, you a lot of rappers now. A lot of rappers, athletes and general athletes as well, that are retired have gotten into sports ownership. You are a huge advocate for our Miami Dolphins. Obviously. If the Dolphins ever came up for sale, would you be interested in buying the Dolphins?
- [47:38]
E
Without a doubt. That's without a doubt. Yeah, that's without a. That's without a doubt.
- [47:44]
B
And.
- [47:45]
E
And if we make that happen, I throw in there, me being a water boy. You know what I mean? I throw that in.
- [47:53]
D
Hey, listen, check it. If you were able to be the takeover for Steven Ross and you were able to be the gm, what's the first move you'll make for your Dolphins? You. You'll be on it.
- [48:06]
E
I spent some money. We gonna spit out somebody. We gotta get somebody else to back up tour. We love tour. He's an amazing person, amazing quarterback, but we just gotta make sure we get somebody behind him. We gonna do some few. We're gonna do a few things on the defense, okay? It's a few things we gotta do. You know what I mean? For us to have that run like y' all was just discussing that Lakers run.
- [48:29]
A
Yeah, we gotta run.
- [48:32]
E
We need us some rings down here. And we really deserve it as a true Dolphin. We really frustrated, homie.
- [48:38]
D
Listen, it's been a long time.
- [48:42]
E
It's been a long time. And I'm talking about this past season. We was all thinking and dreaming. Super Bowl.
- [48:48]
A
Yeah.
- [48:51]
D
Based on what we did last year. And for those in the chat, they're gonna say, oh, you played for the Bangles. I'm from Dade County. I'm from Liberty City. First I was before I got drafted.
- [49:03]
E
You better believe it, boss.
- [49:06]
A
Let me ask you this.
- [49:07]
E
I hope you. I hope you remember that song you did at the house.
- [49:12]
A
Yeah, I remember.
- [49:14]
B
I remember.
- [49:14]
E
I may have to leak that I may have delete.
- [49:17]
D
Man. Let me know, let me know, Let me know.
- [49:19]
E
I'm ready, boss.
- [49:21]
A
Let me ask you this. You were talking about the Grind how you get up, but it seems like people forget to grind. I'm not talking about you because you know what you went through. But when they see the yachts, they see the private jets, they see the whips, they like, oh, he did something. But they forget what Ross did. This is the byproduct. This is the finished product. But what about that 10, 15 year period that y' all didn't see Ross grinding, that y' all didn't see that struggle, that y' all didn't see me cleaning the cars, making $20 and do a little extra when I go get gas and put the fresh sin inside of it? You didn't see that. All you see is the after. But nobody sees the struggle or wants to believe that there was a struggle in order to get to the other side.
- [50:02]
E
Without a doubt, it most definitely was a struggle for Ricky Rose. Those 20 years before I got on, nobody, you know, they did. They don't want to recognize that all of the records I wrote for others. Imagine you having records that never work yet, and you walk in the club and you hear something that you wrote and it's going crazy. But guess what? You stay down, we stay down. Like, yo, it's so many. It's so many potential MVP players that's riding a bench. There's so many people who sitting down mad at themselves. Oh, man, I ain't gonna even go in. Nah, I gotta get in the game and I gotta show everybody my value. And once I get in the game, I ain't gonna look back. And that's what we did.
- [50:45]
A
I tell Locho this all the time. I said, ocho, you don't realize how much success you can have as long as you don't care who gets the credit. A lot of times I wanted, if I can't, if it can't be done my way, Rose, the hell with it. I'm a. I'll blow it up. If you won't let me drive the boat, I sink the whole ship.
- [51:05]
D
It's so funny. And now that you manage it too, you talk about, when it comes to athletes, anyone that has any type of success, a lot of people are looking for instant gratification, not understanding the process that goes into it. Anything that you get right away, it never lasts. Ross, you probably remember you told a story long time ago. I had no idea how long it took, how long you was in the game before you even saw real money, how long you had continue to grind and get it together and actually get it before. I don't know you might have been maybe 8, 9, 10 years in the game until you actually saw some real money as an artist and was like, okay, okay, it's paying off. And that everybody see the finished product. You know, the jewelry, the houses, the car. And not understanding how long it even took to get to that point.
- [52:02]
E
Oh, believe that. It most definitely took a long time. And it's like when you doing it for love, you're doing it out of passion that it won't allow you to quit.
- [52:12]
G
Right?
- [52:12]
E
You gotta find a way to love whatever it is you doing. Even if you getting up and you shooting your content 2, 3 in the morning, you got to get up and love it. They gonna fill it in you. They gonna see it in you. And that's what it was. It wouldn't allow me to quit. So after I got on as soon as I could do my first show for 200, 300, 500, that. That wasn't much, but that was progress for me, and it was more than enough to feed my love. So I wouldn't stop. And here we are right now.
- [52:46]
A
And that's what happens when people ask me, ross, man, give me some advice. I say, find something that you're passionate about, because that's what's going to get you out of bed. That's going to. What's going to make you focus and. And lock in to do what you need to do in order to get done, what you need to get done. Find your passion. Don't. Well, I. I think I want to do this. We'll see. The mem. The minute you tell me you think you want to do something, you're not passionate about it, because what you're passionate about, you gonna do.
- [53:13]
D
Absolutely.
- [53:13]
A
And.
- [53:14]
D
And you know, and you go, you.
- [53:15]
E
Gonna win, and you gonna win big when you passionate about it.
- [53:19]
A
Absolutely.
- [53:20]
E
Look forward to doing it. It's just like laying that outfit out that night before school.
- [53:27]
A
Yeah, you gotta let. You gotta let the outfit out. Because if you don't. If you don't put it out the night before, you might be rushing. You might wake up a little late, bro. And you might. Hey, you might not have the outfit, but at night, before I lay that thing out of them, Lee jeans was crispy stars that Niagara starch.
- [53:43]
E
You put the socks in the shoes, you make sure they right there. So just in case, don't nothing get, hey, man, I'm ready. I'm ready. And when you get to school that next day, trust me, you're a different individual. That is gonna be priceless, man.
- [53:58]
A
Look here I'd be so clean the first day of school, if a fly light on me, I cut his throat. You ain't got no business on me now. You know I'm too clean for you for you to lay in your ass on me.
- [54:08]
D
Hey, y'.
- [54:08]
A
All. Hey, Rose, let me ask you, like, when you. When you started this thing, obviously, everybody knew you from the music, but you weren't satisfied with that because you felt that, okay, that's my foundation. People know me for this. But you know what? Since y' all know me, let me see if y' all want to do business with the balls. Hey, Wingstop, get at your boy.
- [54:28]
E
Get at your boy. I'm tell you, that's what Luca been doing. Luca got around some, right, homies? He been eating them lemon peppers with that ranch dressing. Yeah, I'm telling you right now. I'm telling you, that's what it is, man. And once I went out, I did business. Once Wingstop seen it checker scene, all the other brands, Bugatti luggage, everybody else started falling in place. I ain't dropping the ball. We doing potato chips. Let's do noodles. Okay? We did an amazing thing with Wingstop. Let's take it to the next level. Let's create our own chicken that's coming next.
- [55:04]
D
Hey, how difficult. How difficult is it for. Obviously, you have to have some type of foundation, some type of background, have to have some type of sex success behind you. But when it comes to. To working with brands of that magnitude, is it difficult to get involved with them?
- [55:23]
E
Well, after you sustain, after you establish a certain amount of success, they can see your vision. When you go down and lay out, look, this the idea I got. This what I want to do. I mean it. I love it. And besides, like me, I bought my first franchise, went to my second, my third. You know, they sitting back watching. Damn. When he gonna stop? He had 20. He had 25. Hey, man, you understand? So they understand my put, you know, my passion, how hard we went and how. How amazing my team was.
- [55:59]
A
Yeah, understand.
- [56:00]
E
So once they understand and know you got the team, they gonna let you run with it. Especially if you really get money. That's what it's gonna come down to. Who gonna really rep the brand and get some money. And I did them both. Well, yeah, that.
- [56:13]
A
That. That's the color that people be looking at, you know, I mean, yeah, black and white and you. All that other stuff, but they count green. Oh, people can see. People might be color bright, Rose.
- [56:24]
E
They are colorblind.
- [56:25]
A
But.
- [56:27]
E
Everybody get on the Same page.
- [56:29]
A
When that butter cattle start blow, That's all they care. They like, hey, give him another one. Hey, where you want your next wing stop at, boss?
- [56:41]
E
Matter of fact, where you want your next 10 at, boss?
- [56:45]
A
Let's go out.
- [56:46]
E
Let's go to LA and Texas, baby.
- [56:48]
A
Hey, boss, look, we know you love cars. Let me ask you a question. How did you decide to come up with a car show? Because I know you love cars. You were telling me when I did the interview with you a couple of years ago. You told me cars have always been your passion.
- [57:00]
E
Right? They always been my passion. I looked up one day, realized I was at close to 60, 70 cars.
- [57:07]
A
Damn.
- [57:08]
E
Yeah, I'm at the promised land. That was then. Yeah, I'm at the promised land. We had 2,250plus acres. And I find myself looking around thing. Let's do this off, the very first one. And when I say the culture came out, the streets came out. The cars, the bikes, the trucks, the ladies, the hustlers, the athletes. Chad Ocho was out there riding horses all day. I'm talking about, hey, horseback ride. That's what made me think of doing the rodeo next.
- [57:44]
D
I'm like, yo, hey, if you do a rodeo, I'm riding the bull.
- [57:51]
E
Hey, you know what? I'm gonna take the challenge right behind you. I'm gonna get on the bull, too. Man, we riding the bulls.
- [58:00]
A
Rose, Rose, Rose, Rose. Whoa, whoa. I gotta stop you. Rose, Rose. I saw you on the diving board. I don't know if you can hit it. I don't know. I don't know if you can hit the ground. Cause that water. The water softer than the.
- [58:13]
E
No, I can't hit that ground. I'm gonna let you know right now. I can't afford that, man. I got shows to do. We on tour, man.
- [58:19]
A
Yeah, yeah. You better wait till the tour over, boss, before you do that rodeo.
- [58:25]
E
Listen, man, all right, I ain't gonna do the rodeo, Ocho.
- [58:28]
B
I' ma watch.
- [58:29]
G
Yeah.
- [58:32]
E
The biggest bulls out there so we could goddamn watch a real performance.
- [58:37]
D
I was at the car show on. I'm supposed to be out there, you know, I enjoying myself and look at the car, look at some ideas. Maybe if I. If I happen to want to spend a little money, man, I spent about three hours on the damn horses, man.
- [58:50]
A
Hey, boss, let me ask you this. All day on some of those cars, do some of those cars be for sale?
- [58:58]
E
It's like this. I'm thinking about raffling. Maybe raffling something off or maybe giving one away. This year. But all of mine, you know, I usually keep. I buy cars throughout the day of the car show because there's some homies come out who's selling their cars, right? Certain situations. I just made an offer they couldn't resist. Yeah, I done bought one for 250/4 million. Let's go. Let's run it. 57 Bel Air convertible from the kids.
- [59:27]
A
Yeah, you love them Bel Airs. You love that 57? 55. You love them bel airs, boss?
- [59:31]
E
57 55s. I love them 73 verts, them seven ones. That's that Day county vibe as well. So, okay. I love my convertibles. I love my Chevrolets. You know what I mean? That's just how I go. And if somebody bring the right Chevy, I'm gonna take it off you. I'm gonna take it off your hand.
- [59:49]
A
So you might. You may. You mainly. You mainly a Chevy guy? You mainly a Chevy guy? You ain't really big in the mopar or anything like that, huh?
- [59:55]
E
No, I'm a Chevy guy. Then I love me the Chevies. Then the Shelbys.
- [60:02]
A
The muscle, okay, forward. The Cobra. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Carol Shelby.
- [60:05]
E
Okay. I rock with those in a major way, but that's how I usually go for me. And then I cut it off right after that.
- [60:13]
A
Okay, that four feet, that 427 cobra. You. You got a Cobra?
- [60:17]
E
Of course.
- [60:18]
A
Oh, you try. Oh, you got. You got one boat.
- [60:21]
E
Man, I had to. I. You know them Shelby's. I love them Shelby's. I was in one of my Shelby's today, man. I love them. I love them. I do.
- [60:31]
A
What you got, Ojo?
- [60:33]
D
Listen, I can't wait.
- [60:34]
A
So when the tour let me. When the tour kickoff.
- [60:36]
E
Boss, the tour actually kicking off today? It's kicking off Louisville, Kentucky, like I say. The lineup, next level, all the heavyweights. Omarion Bow Wow, Trey Songz, Plies. Boosie Badass, Ricky Rosie, Nino Breeze. We going all the way out this tour. I'm gonna enjoy it. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna watch the homies do their thing. I know the ladies gonna be in the crowd. I'm gonna come out there, hit them with hits back to back, you know? Breeze, hit him. Give them another Nino Breeze. I'm gonna give him another one. You know, that's how we gonna do it. We ain't even playing.
- [61:14]
D
That's life.
- [61:14]
A
Hey, boss. I appreciate you, Stan. We appreciate you staying up. Nightcap. Really appreciate. Appreciate you staying up late. We know it's probably past your bedtime. The tour kicks off Today, so. Hey, bro, thank you for your time. Y' all make sure y' all go check out the millennium tour with the boss. The biggest boss you ever saw. Rick Ross, Trey Song, Bow Wow, Plies. Boosie, Badass Nino, Breezy, Breezy.
- [61:39]
E
Better believe it. It's gonna be crazy, man. Y' all better pull up. Louisville, Kentucky, get your tickets right now. Be there tonight. Ricky, Roselma, Wear me one of them big coats coming out there.
- [61:53]
A
I appreciate that, boss. Enjoy, man. We'll catch you down the road. Thanks for joining us.
- [61:57]
E
Y' all keep killing them, man. Y' all number one in the streets, Number one in the game. Number one in the world. Don't stop, baby.
- [62:04]
D
Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
- [62:04]
A
Appreciate that. Salute. The biggest boss.
- [62:07]
E
It's too easy.
- [62:12]
G
I didn't get your feelings on this, because, you know, you, you, you, you, you. The way you handled this was very, very, very perfect. The you. You had two friends kind of get into it a little bit. How'd that feel?
- [62:25]
A
Who that? LeBron.
- [62:26]
G
Yeah, man.
- [62:27]
A
I know that put you in a little pickle, man.
- [62:28]
G
I know that put you in the pickle.
- [62:32]
A
Batman. Look here. Stephen A. Is Stephen A. LeBron felt that Stephen A. Crossed the line because he questioned him as a father. You're not questioning Bronnie's skills. You're not questioning my skills. You're questioning saying I'm doing damage to my son by having him play, bro, he's the 55th player. I mean, there's only. There's only 60 players selected. They make it seem like they took Bronnie at the lottery. And if you. I'm not. And plus, you have to understand, the man had a major medical issue. Give him some time to recover from that. Now, if in three years he's still melling around, okay, it is what he is. Maybe he's a career G leaguer. Maybe he's a serviceable role player. But for me, once, it tells me a lot for LeBron to do what he did, because LeBron has swallowed a lot of stuff for 22 years. For him to approach him in a public setting during the timeout of a basketball game lets you know just how upset he was. He said what he said. Stephen A. Said he understood.
- [63:43]
E
Cool.
- [63:43]
A
Yeah. The problem that I had with Stephen A. And I told Stephen A. This, bro, you should have left that alone once you say you understood it. But when you went. Made the rounds and you said what you said on Gill's arena and you went to other platforms and. And then, like, you added yeast to the story, that's where. That's why I was out on it. I mean, Stephen and my guy, we talk about a lot of stuff. Not just, you know, first take stuff. We talk about a lot of stuff. And, you know, he's helped me, gave me, given me some good advice, and I like to think I've given him some. I just wish whatever happened that Friday night, or whenever it was that would.
- [64:18]
G
Have been, we made a good case on our.
- [64:20]
A
On our pod.
- [64:21]
G
We made a good case. People should be judged. Case scenario, Right, Right. Talk about the talent. Right? Talk about me not being good. Talk about, like, criticize me. Right? But don't criticize me because of who my dad is. Like, you say I'm 55th pick. Ain't nobody talking about these two bum ass motherfuckers. That was number one and number two.
- [64:47]
A
Exactly.
- [64:48]
G
Hey, that's losing every game.
- [64:50]
A
We don't even know.
- [64:51]
G
Look, we talk about Bronnie so much, people forget that he was the 55th pick. People forget who the first three picks were.
- [64:58]
A
Hell, I couldn't tell you. I mean, hardly any of the picks.
- [65:02]
G
My point exactly.
- [65:03]
E
You feel me?
- [65:03]
G
So, like, when you dealing with that. Right? And one thing I like about the James family, the way they take the criticism is absolutely everybody can't.
- [65:15]
A
Everybody ain't built for that.
- [65:16]
E
No.
- [65:16]
B
Pat.
- [65:16]
A
Remarkable.
- [65:17]
D
Yeah. But also Pat, you know, you got to understand. You got to understand how long they've been in it, how long they've been in. So really, after this, after this long.
- [65:25]
B
You got to think the pressure has.
- [65:26]
D
Been on LeBron since what, coming out of high school.
- [65:31]
A
Everybody. He burst on the scene when they put him on cover on Sports Illustrated, said the chosen one.
- [65:38]
B
Yeah.
- [65:39]
A
So he's 40. He's 40 now. He was 16 or 17 then. So that's been 23, 24 years. For damn near a quarter century, he's been in the public eye.
- [65:48]
B
Yeah.
- [65:49]
D
So he's.
- [65:50]
A
And so it's just like. It's just like any parent. If you're in a situation and you can help your child, who doesn't? We see these. We see these CEOs and presidents and the owner companies. What did Jerry do, all of his kids? Ain't nobody said, well, Stephen ain't qualified, Charlotte ain't qualified.
- [66:09]
D
Yeah.
- [66:10]
A
As a parent, that's what you do. You try to put your kid in the best situation, and then it's up to him to make the both best of the situation that we got. We got the blueprint from them.
- [66:23]
G
That's what we got. The blue. Oh, man, I see these CEOs, they doing this, man. Okay, man, this person deserve this job. But they go hire, they go hire Cuzzle over here. Cuzzle ain't. Ain't really did nothing. They still go, h. Okay, cool. We sealed all that. Let us do the same thing, right? I mean, collectively, longevity, you talk about legacy wise, you have to get the first, the mom a lot of credit because it starts with her and it trickles all the way down, right? To Ms. Savannah, it trickles all the way down. You have to give that family a lot of credit. They've done a lot. And to steal every time you see them, for them to look so royal with so much royalty and handle themselves, class is really impressive, especially coming from the black culture. Especially coming from the black culture.
- [67:12]
D
And this, this is how I know this. I know not only the James class, the James family is class personified, but LeBron James as well, Pat, because you think about his accolades, his achievements, and what he's been able to do since coming out of high school, the pressure being on him, him being able to take it all this time and reaching a milestone of being the highest scoring NBA player of all time, and the fact that when he hit that 50, 000 points, you know, and whatever game that was, I, I just wanted to show you because the rest of the chat has seen it. Some, some other, some of the other people that have been on here. Baby, Uncle's been able to see it. You know, LeBron gifted me the 50, 000 ball, the 50, 000 point ball. And I just want to show it to you. Just check that out.
- [68:00]
G
You sure?
- [68:01]
B
Yeah.
- [68:03]
G
You know, I was on the Lakers when that game happened.
- [68:07]
D
Yeah, this the ball right here.
- [68:09]
G
You turn it around a little bit. No, that ain't it.
- [68:14]
A
No, you ain't. No, that ain't it.
- [68:16]
G
I know. I ain't playing with that ball. I ain't playing with that ball. Yeah, I scored too that game. That ain't the ball I scored with. That ain't the ball.
- [68:27]
A
Pat, what do you think about guys staying in college longer because.
- [68:30]
G
Oh, yeah, I don't like that.
- [68:31]
A
Do you think that'll help y' all like that?
- [68:33]
B
That's.
- [68:33]
G
That's semi pro. That's semi pro. That's all that is, right? Like if you actually think about it and break it down, that's semi pro, right? And it's crazy because three years ago everybody crying about, yeah, get an athletes. Yeah, get a college players, man, they need to get paid. I'm all with anyone doing anything. You Love. You can get paid to do it.
- [68:54]
E
Do it.
- [68:54]
G
I'm with it until it hurts. The game. When I watch Auburn play, it felt like. It felt like. And they end up losing. But in the beginning of the game, it felt like grown man going against teenagers.
- [69:10]
A
Right?
- [69:11]
E
Right?
- [69:12]
D
And if.
- [69:12]
G
And like. And I was a kid that had to go through college. 18, 19 year old. We all know who Steph Curry was in our class. We already know who. Kevin Durant. He. All these guys in my class. You in the 06 class. You took your class serious.
- [69:25]
A
You feel me, right?
- [69:26]
G
How am I still in college cooking and you in the NBA cooking and.
- [69:30]
B
We in the same class, right?
- [69:33]
A
How.
- [69:33]
G
Y' all older than okc?
- [69:37]
A
Yeah.
- [69:38]
G
And you telling me like. And you want. And people wonder, like, man, it wasn't a lot of buzzer beaters.
- [69:44]
B
Yeah.
- [69:44]
G
Cause it's grown men playing now. It ain't a lot of one shining moments no more. Remember in college basketball, you know how many? 3, 2, 1. Somebody shoot from half, man. This man. It's semi pro, semi pro, man. And it's gonna hurt the NBA. That's what it's gonna do. It's gonna hurt the NBA.
- [70:03]
A
Pat, we gonna get y' all on this one. You being a Chicago native. Give me your top five players to come out of Chicago.
- [70:11]
G
Man. Gotta go D. Rose.
- [70:13]
D
Yeah, D. Rose. That's one.
- [70:16]
G
Got to go D. Rose. That's. That's off the top. Got to go, D. Rose.
- [70:20]
A
I'm.
- [70:20]
G
I'm. I'm kind of different, so I'm a go. Hey, listen, I know a lot of these people, your friends. So what I call Chicago might be kind of different than what people call Chicago, you know, Because a lot of people might say they from Chicago, uncle. But I ain't never seen them up walk down the street.
- [70:40]
A
Feel me?
- [70:40]
G
So my Chicago very different than a lot of people Chicago. So I'm gonna start. I'm gonna start with D. Rose, right? I'm gonna start with. I'm gonna start with Isaiah Thomas.
- [70:49]
A
Okay. All right.
- [70:50]
G
It was a guy back in the day, I don't know if y' all know. His name was Benji Wilson.
- [70:55]
A
Benji, right. Simeon.
- [70:59]
G
He's the one who started a lot, and he don't get enough credit. I'm putting him in there right now. It gets. It gets kind of. It gets kind of funny, right? It gets kind of funny. Cause you can go Michael Finley, right? You can go Quinn Richardson, Antwan Walker. You can go right now. But I'm not. I'mma go Will Bynum.
- [71:25]
E
Wow.
- [71:26]
G
What he did in high school was electric. I've never seen anybody. He's probably the best high school player that ever came out of Chicago.
- [71:35]
A
Cause he averaged like 30.
- [71:37]
G
He went to Kareem. Yeah, I'm talking about. I was a kid running up to the school. I'm running up to school, hoping to get in the game, right? Hoping to get in the game. And then I. I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta give it to him. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta give it to. I gotta give it to. It's tough because I can go.
- [71:58]
C
I can go.
- [71:58]
G
Anthony Davis. I can go.
- [71:59]
A
D. Wade.
- [72:00]
G
I can go, you know, But I'm talking about the Chicago. Chicago. So I go, I go Anthony Davis. I go Anthony Davis.
- [72:08]
A
Wow.
- [72:09]
G
But my Chicago, different though. That's all. You feel me? Like the other people that say they're from Chicago, it's a 45 minute, 30.
- [72:19]
A
33 minute drive.
- [72:21]
G
Where I'm at to.
- [72:23]
A
Them, you got to be from the south side to the west side.
- [72:25]
G
That's all I'm saying. I don't want to step on nobody toe because of some, a lot of people that say they came out of Chicago, but from the west side of Chicago. Only person that I kind of know that went to the NBA is me from Chicago. Right?
- [72:40]
B
I got you.
- [72:41]
H
I got you.
- [72:41]
E
Right?
- [72:41]
G
That's all. So. So. But if you want to go other Chicago, I'm gonna go D. Wade. I'mma go. I'm gonna go. Anthony Davis. I'm gonna go D. Rose. I'mma go. Isaiah Thomas. I'mma go. Antoine Walker. I'm gonna go though.
- [72:57]
A
What a matchup.
- [72:57]
E
We got y'. All.
- [72:58]
A
This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat everybody. Showing that school pride. Game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere. And in ice cold Coca Cola, that's a winning combo. No matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.
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