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After starting 5 and 4, guess what? This guy helped pull him out of that deficit. And they went on to win the division. Harry of Trevor Lawrence.
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What's up, boss?
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All right, Trev, before we get into any football talk, tell us what we got here. What we got here?
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All right, we got. So this. Got some chips and dips here.
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Is that edible?
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It is. It's fresh. They said. Said it's fresh.
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So now if I end up. If I end up.
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Hold on. You got to dip it. Dip it. You can't eat.
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I don't do. I don't do together.
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Hey, Trey, that's guacamole, right?
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That's guac.
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What's on the other side?
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Salsa. You want salsa?
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Not.
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I'm on a diet. I'm on the diet.
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It's not the McDonald's, huh?
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There you go.
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There we go.
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What kind of chips are these? These. They taste different. What question about them?
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I don't know what's special about the chips?
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We're here.
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We're here with Zevo. So we got. We got all of our food Hosting super bowl parties, living in Florida. Come in, in and out. When you're hosting a party, get all the flies in the house. You plug this up in your kitchen.
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Yeah.
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Takes care of them for you. So it's, it's a big. It's an essential in our house.
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So this is a Zebo flying insect trap.
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Yes.
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House fly, fruit flies, gnats and more mosquitoes. No chemicals, insecticides. So I just plug this into the wall and. And they fly into this.
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It's a blue light. So it attracts them and then it has a sticky inside.
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Okay.
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Oh, oh, okay.
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Fly into it.
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You know what? I can attest to this product because I have Zevo. Baby, baby, tell them you got the little Zevo, right? But I use it for the fruit fl. I have a problem with fruit fl. I'm not sure where they come from.
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Trev, I have no you in Miami.
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I know, but I have the same thing.
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Set the fruit out. And they're just. After a day, it's like, Trev, I.
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Don'T even had no fruit at the house. That's the problem. I don't have no fruit and they come out of nowhere. But this Zebo has been able to help me tremendously. Trying to get rid of fruit flies because I'm not sure what the blue light does. I don't understand the technology behind it.
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I don't really either, but it works.
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Insects like life. Yeah. It's like moth and mosquitoes, they go to the flame. They go to a house. Like, you see, they're flying around. And so when they, when this, this lights up, it traps them inside. So this is what Trevor Lawrence is promoting. It's called Zebo flying insect trap. What you do, you plug it in 24, 7 max. It has a cord.
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No. Okay, so this sits like against the wall.
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So how, how long, how long will they last?
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They said. I mean, you'll see, it gets full. You can look in there.
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Oh, so you. Oh, okay. So you're gonna have to. You have to change it out so that you just age. Slide this side and put another win. It's kind of like those. It's. You know what? Yeah, it's kind. You know what it's like, right? It's kind of like those plugins.
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Yes.
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For those aromas.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And you just. And you just keep plugging them in. Trev, unbelievable bounce back season, your first season on the new head coach, Liam cone. He's also called the plays. What was different this year for you as opposed To. In years past.
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Yeah, I mean, I think the. The system that we're running is completely different than anything I've had before. It gives you. I mean, it gives you a lot of answers as a couple quarterback. It's. It's tougher to learn on the front end just because, you know, we got two, three plays at the line almost every. Every time we play huddle so it puts a little bit more. So like in. In the spring and in training camp, it was a little tough to learn, but then once the season started, I really felt like I started to get comfortable with it as the season went on. So you're running good plays versus the right look. I mean, that's the idea of all the, you know, it's a good system, if you ask me. So I think that getting comfortable with that. And then Liam's been great just the way he led the team. His personality is. Is perfect for Jacksonville. He's got that chip on his shoulder, and I think our team really embodied that and bought into it.
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As great as you guys look offensively and, and I always say it, I say that throughout the season, when Travis Hood went down, you guys had the Ferrari in the garage for most of the season. And still Travis Hunter, excuse me, trap Travis Hunter. I call it the Ferrari. Being in the garage. And offensive, you guys still look extremely good throughout the majority of the season without him. How optimistic are you that you guys will be able to continue to build once he comes back healthy offensively?
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Super optimistic. I mean, you look at. Like you said, I mean, I think people kind of forgot that he. That he's on our team because he got hurt. And we. When we started really clicking, he wasn't on the field and he was injured. But think about having him that's going to be back next year. Both sides of the ball, he's such a key player. I mean, he's going to. He's going to be a huge help for our team. And then you look at the guys that stepped up, I think that's the cool thing is guys stepped up that maybe like Parker. Parker, maybe a lot of people didn't know much about before the season.
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Nice.
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I've played with him for a couple years. I've known what he's capable of. Obviously he hasn't gotten those opportunities until this year, but being able to step up and have a guy that can just come in and play and take off the rest of the seat, I mean, he. He played awesome. Proud of him. And just all of our guys, obviously, BT coming back yeah, you know, Britain Strange. We got Jacoby, who we picked up halfway through the season. I mean, Jacoby Myers was one of the. The biggest additions that we've had. I mean, what he brought to our team in our receiver room, just that mindset. And he does all the little things, like he blocks, he runs all. I mean, he can run every route. He's selfless. I think all those things. He was a great leader for that room.
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I think you've had, like, three different or offensive coordinators in a very short time. And you hear. And you hear a lot of people say, man, look it, where is on a quarterback, because it's. He's in a system for basically one year. He has to learn another system for two years, and then he has to learn a third system. How different is the system that Liam run as opposed to some of the systems that you've had earlier in your career?
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It's very different, this system, you know, with obviously liam and Sean McVay and all these other. It's now. It's kind of spread. There's a lot of teams that are running it now, and I've never been in it until we got Liam, and I've heard great things about it, but I didn't really know what it was like. Like, so now having it, I can. I can definitely say it's. It's really cool. Because you learned so much. I've learned in the past year, I've learned so much more about scheme, like what we're trying to do, why we're putting in a play this way, why we're using this motion to try to undress the pressure or the coverage. And there's so many things that, you know as a quarterback that you have to be taught that I just didn't know before because that's. That's the way that the system does it and the way you build your game plan. So give them a lot of credit for that. It's a lot different than anything I've had. And. And just having the ability as the quarterback to get out of plays, to have options, you know, to have the freedom to. To get into the right play. It feels really good.
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Do you ever. Because we used to do. I know. O. I talked about it.
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Yeah.
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Have you ever, like, man, I sure wish I was in that system because I see that quarterback and I see the numbers he's putting up. I damn sure could put numbers up like that if I had a system like that.
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I think you definitely, you know, I. You talked about the start of my Career in the first four years. And just the. The change. New coaches, new coordinators, new play callers. I've had, you know, four play callers since I've been in the league in five years. And you do look at things and you're like, man, I know. You know, I know I have the ability and I know I can do all these things. And. And you do want things to line up and you want to feel like you're set up for success. And I've had good coaches in the past. That's not to knock any coaches, but it's just, I think naturally you do look at other situations like, man, and it feels good to be now with Liam in this system and feel like we have an advantage with our, you know, our system and the things that we're doing, our game plan going into the game, we feel like we have the advantage, which is a huge thing as a player. If you can feel that, you feel confident, you can just go out and play because you trust it's going to work.
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You know, one of the things I always think about is being able to maximize a player's potential is obviously always having continuity and having a familiarity with the system. And when you have to switch coordinators, you have to switch play callers. Every guy, every season. To me, it.
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It.
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It almost makes you take a step back in a sense, because it's always something new that you're having to learn right now where you are in your career. Do you have the freedom when you come to the line and you see the defense, do you have the freedom Even though you have multiple. Multiple plays called at one, do you have the freedom to change it to something that you like? Do you have that freedom yet?
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Yeah, you know, it depends on the situation, what play is called, but definitely, I mean, there was some stuff towards the end of the season where we'd say it could be a run play. And any. Anytime I think we get man coverage, we can check to any of our man beaters and just get out of it, which is great as a quarterback because you're like, absolutely. I know it's man, but we're running. We're running mid zone, which is fine. We'll probably get a decent gain. But, like, why. Why wouldn't we run some crossers mesh play and we get a chunk and. Because we know it's. Because you're not going to. It's very rare that you just. You can call the play knowing exactly what they're playing and when you can do that, you're at Such an advantage. So they've given me the freedom to. When I see that I can get to what I want because you know what you're getting and I, you know, I think that's really cool.
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Yeah, that's, that's a, that's a huge advantage when you have a quarterback that has allowed the freedom to be able to do what some of the greats have done. Because when the greats. What the greats have always been able to done is to understand what they see in front of them and be able to change. Especially when you have the right personnel, which you do have to be able to get in something you can. Like we got man to man. I mean, I got BT out there. What man, we changing this. If you would have put your GM cap on. I've asked every player we've had on here if you were able to put your GM cap on and say what we need, whether it's offensively, whether it's defensively or maybe, maybe even special teams that can get us over the hump so we can be in the conversation. And being in games like this next year, being la, what would you do?
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You said if I have my GM.
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Here, if you put your GM hat. Oh, you're not Trevor Lawrence, the player.
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Oh, man, that's a, that's a good question.
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Resign atn.
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That's a great, that's a great start. That's my guy. I've been with him eight years. I mean, you headed to college eight years. Yeah. So I'm, I'm hoping we get Travis back. I mean, he's, he's great player. I'm hoping we get him back. So that's a great starting point. I think you look at our team, we have some guys that are free agents. So you gotta, you gotta to figure out who, who's going to come back, who's going to be a part of it. I think obviously the year we had and what we were set up to do fell short in the wild card, but we feel really good about our team and how we matched up. I don't feel like we ever stepped on the field and we're like, man, this team's better than us. Didn't ever feel that way. So you want to try to get as many guys as possible back, but it's not always realistic. So I don't even know if I could put my GM hat on. I don't know how the salary cap.
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Works, but it's going up.
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I think we, it's going up. I know. So we could Find. And we got a great owner that's willing to do what it takes to keep guys around. So I'm hoping we get all that figured out. Travis would be awesome to keep. And then I think you look at our defense, lose some guys. Devin Lloyd's a free agent. He had a great year. I mean, you look at what he did, he's. I mean, arguably the best linebacker in the league. So got some stuff to figure out. And I think there's guys that are a key part of what we're doing, but at the end of the day, you know, I don't make those decisions. But I think we have the relationship in our building where our input is valued. So.
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Yeah, you know, especially your input.
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Yeah, no doubt.
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So you how. How the Purple Hurricane is going to.
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Do this year to go back to Cartersville, huh? About Cartersville? I'm hoping.
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Good, man.
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It's you and Ronnie Brown right here.
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Oh, Ronnie's the man. Yeah, Ronnie's the man. Yeah, he's. I'm hoping. Good.
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We need to get.
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We need to get back, get another state championship. It's been a little while, so we played in a couple, but we need to. We need to win one.
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You know what? And we're going to get you out on this. Now, your name. When they talk about great quarterbacks in the afc, Trevor Lawrence getting mentioned because of Liam Cohen comes in there and what you've been. What you've been able to do this season. So the Patrick Mahomes and the Joe Burrow and Lamar Jacksons and the Josh Allens, and guess what, Trevor Lawrence, is that what you've always hoped for? Because a lot of times, like, man, look, this guy was the number one consensus from the day he stepped foot on Clemson. Everybody said, three years from today, he'll be the first player selected in the NFL draft. So you've had a lot of pressure, and you've met those expectations. You went to college, you won a national championship as a true freshman. Doesn't happen very often. You get back in. But you ran into that historic, great 2019 LSU team. You're the first one to pick in the draft, and you had some success. What you have, you walk Sandy, the Chargers down there with 20 to 27 nothing. You walk them down. So now to hear people, the way they talk about you now, as opposed the way they talked about you in the past, does that make you feel good? Like, you know what? I'm turning the corner. I'm starting to be the player that I thought I could become.
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Yeah. I think it's. Man, people have said a lot of stuff about me for a long time, so I. I try not to.
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Try not to hear too much of it.
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No, I try not to listen too much. I know. I've seen. I mean, you asked people a year ago, people thought I sucked. So, I mean, I don't think you can listen. Listen to too much. I've always known what I'm capable of, and it's been frustrating at times. You know, obviously, I haven't played as well as I know I can. But now having the foundation in place, the confidence in what we're doing, the system, the scheme, our personnel, got a lot of great players, have a lot of confidence in that. And for me, it's not about what people think if I'm in that conversation or not. It's just about winning games. But naturally, when you win, that happens. So I'm proud of what we were able to do this year. Not for people to say that, you know, I'm one of the better quarterbacks in the league, but just because our team is one of the better teams in the league. And that's what happens when you play well as a team, when you play and you have to play well at the quarterback position. So naturally that stuff's going to happen. And hopefully next year we have another conversation and playing in this game.
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Here we go.
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Here we go. But as much fun it is as it is talking to you guys, you want to be.
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If you want to be in this game, no doubt. So here you quarterback Jacksonville Jaguars performance promoting Zebo the Flying Insect Trap Trevor Lawrence. Trev, thanks for stopping by.
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Appreciate it.
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Don't forget to put that word in.
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For me to come back, all right?
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Come on.
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I appreciate it, Coach.
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I didn't know.
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You want to go?
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No, I want to play.
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You want to play?
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Yeah, I want to play.
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All right, next, coming to the Colts wide receiver. He was a 20, 20 second round pick out of you USC this season. 80 catches, 784 yards, seven touchdowns. The Colts finished 8, 9, 3rd in the AFC. Man, the dream season. It started off so great for him. They were 8 and 2 to start the season. The quarterback gets injured and they lost seven in a row. Michael Hitman Jr. How you doing, bro?
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People what they do, baby.
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How are you guys?
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Went good to see you.
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Yes, sir, likewise.
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Boy, you had that great start. Y' all were 8 and 2 roll, riding high. You're the number one seed in the AFC at the time. And then your quarterback gets injured, and you tried a lot of different things. You end up getting Phillip Rivers off his couch after five years. But how disappointing was it for you guys to see a promising season go basically go down the drain because of an injury to your quarterback?
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Yeah, I mean, obviously it's tough. I mean, like, just like hearing that back again, man. Cause like, we thought we were on our way to the playoff run. AFC's not House. I mean, or south. I mean, everything was just out there. And just the fact that it came kind of almost like crashing down, like after. Like Dan got hurt, but just know that he's coming back and we still have that same core guys and. And that we feel like we could do the same thing again. So. And. And then, God willing, that everybody stays healthy because we had a string of bad luck. Well, you know, like, just like with, like our DBs with.
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With.
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With obviously Daniel. So. So, like, it. It.
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You know, even as a player. How surprised were you? Because even I was surprised. How surprised were you that when Daniel James, Daniel Jones came in as a quarterback, everything changed. He looked like a damn generational talent. He changed everything around about that franchise, especially with the way you guys are playing at the beginning of the season before his injury.
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Absolutely. I mean, I wasn't so shocked because. Because, like, the way that he showed up, like, just like in camp, like, we were doing that, so. And then we went to, like, joint practices and we were still doing that, so. So it didn't really shock me going eight and two, like, like now, I didn't necessarily see that.
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Yeah.
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So, like, when, like we went on that run, I'm like, oh, like just like. You know what I'm saying? Like, just like we like, got a squat right and our offense was rolling it, like, historic pace.
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Yes.
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And. And we thought we were onto something. And then like I said, injuries, it all comes crashing down. But we got to find ways to win, like, no matter what, because, you know, like, there's lots of teams that battle that, you know, I, I just, I think that the 49ers struggling with, like, injuries and they were able to make a nice run. So we just got to find ways to get it done, like, regardless.
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Yeah. And you look at you guys offensively, you got. Jonathan Taylor can run the football yourself. Pierce, you got. Got worn at tight end. Your offensive line was a little banged up, but you still have an outstanding offensive line. What do you guys. How do you so. And because this is a very tough division now. Oh, yeah, you got the Houston Texans, you got the Jags. You guys are in that division. You see, they made a change in Tennessee with their coaching staff, with their coaches staff. And so now this division, what, you know, maybe it would take, you know, 10 games to win the division. It's probably going to take 12, 13 game to win this division moving forward. Unless something unforeseen were to happen.
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Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, like, just knowing that there's some really good defenses in the AFC south right now. I mean, Houston's like, defensive front, I mean, and they're like DBs now. I mean, crazy, crazy ballers. So.
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Yeah.
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Just know that, you know, like, it's going to be a battle, like every time that we play those teams, them, the Jags and Tennessee, like, it's coming up, you know, like, I think that Cam Ward is a really talented guy.
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Guy.
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And I think they're going to build kind of like just like around him and, and like, I think that he's going to keep getting better, too. So it ain't going to be easy.
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You guys lost to Seattle 18, 16.
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Yeah. And.
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And everybody that's come on here, they have picked the Seahawks to win the Super Bowl.
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Yeah.
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What makes them so good on both sides of the football? Because you had an up close look. You're on the field against their defense, you're on the sideline watching their offense. Watch what makes them so good.
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I think they play really good complimentary football and I think they don't make a lot of mistakes. Right. Like, I think that they're well coached. I think that their defensive line is, like, really good. Obviously, Sam is playing great. I mean, Jackson Smith is putting up crazy numbers, so they kind of got, like, the full package. And. And, like, I kind of am, like, leaning towards them, too.
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Same.
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Yeah, I think. I think it's going to be an unbelievable game. I think the thing is people might be selling the Patriots a little short.
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Yeah.
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Because, you know, they don't have the big name. They don't have a guy like a Jackson.
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Yeah.
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They don't have, you know, Sam and Drake May is going in the MVP discussion. We'll find out tonight who wins the mvp. For me, if I had a vote, I probably would have voted for Matthew Stafford.
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Oh, yeah.
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You know, considering what he's done. But they're going to be right there. And you mentioned that defense, but you guys. I mean, they did a number. If you go back and look at them in. In the postseason, they've done. They've done an unbelievable job on a lot of teams. But you're able. It was a very, very close ball game.
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Yeah.
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What. What. What do you think? Some of the things that the Patriots can do to take advantage? Because, like you said, they're very good. They're very, very spoon and woolen. And then you got love. And then you got. I mean, they. They. They're good at all three levels.
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Yeah. I mean, like, I think the biggest thing that helped us was Philip was getting us, like, in the right plays. And I don't know how. Like, there was one. I think it was a third down where they showed, like a, like, allout blitz. And they ran up, like, just like on our. On our. On our hard count. And they, like, ran up and showed blitz, and, like, I'm like, okay, like, just like. They're like, just like all of them are bringing it up, and then Philip changes it to a. To a. To a zone. To a zone play. So, like, just, like, I'm just, like, looking at him crazy. Like, I'm like, yo, bro. I just like. Like, just like they are bringing a house and then, like, he snaps it and all of them just back out. Like, I was like, I have no idea.
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E
Like, how we knew.
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G
Seen that because they all came so hard, like, on that, like, hard count. So. Yeah.
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A
You have one year left on your deal.
- [22:22]
G
Yes.
- [22:24]
A
You know, and your name did come up in some trade talks at the trade deadline. Is this something. Would you like to. Would you like to secure something long term? You got a huge cap number. They're probably going to look, you. I'm not breaking news to you. I'm sure you and your representative have looked at this. Is there a possibility. Would you like to stay in Indy or you want. Whatever. Whatever works best for the team. And the work works best for Michael Pittman Jr. I'm amenable to absolutely.
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F
Yeah.
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G
I mean, obviously, Indy, like, is my home, and, like, I've built, like, a lot of stuff there. And, like, I would love to stay, but just know that NFL ball can take you places that, you know, like, you never thought that you'd be at. Right. And sometimes, like, that can be better. But I am planning on being here, like, in Indy, and until somebody tells me that I'm not. So, like, I'm all in, like, with the Colts. And I hope it too say that way.
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E
I hope it stays that way too, because I understand how valuable. Valuable you are for that team and that franchise in that offense. So I'm hoping, you know, it does happen. Who you here representing?
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G
Yes. So I am here on behalf of Oral B, the official toothbrush of the NFL. So we actually got our guy Blue here. He's got.
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B
Blue.
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E
What's up, Blue?
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G
Thanks to the IO series toothbrush, huh?
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B
Blue.
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G
So he's just getting it in.
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B
He's got the perfect spot.
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G
Smiling from the.
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B
Hey, so.
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E
Hey, Blue. I appreciate that, baby.
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A
They got. You got a beard too, won't you, huh?
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E
I ain't got no beer. It look like me, though. And they got the cardier, right?
- [23:56]
G
Yeah.
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A
Yo, baby, look at my glass.
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G
There you go, Blue.
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E
Hey, Blue. I appreciate that, Blue.
- [24:03]
G
Yes, sir.
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E
That's live.
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A
I like that. I actually. I actually used OR B, though. That's the only. Yeah, I. I've used. Or beef. It's the best. Actually. I. I think I use. It might be. I don't know if it's the soft or medium. I think it's a 60 soft or 60 medium.
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G
There you go.
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A
Cuz clearly I know what I'm talking about because I'm giving you the soft.
- [24:23]
G
Absolutely, absolutely. It's like the soft light, like, bristles, like, just like, are the best.
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A
Yeah. This is unbelievable. Appreciate this.
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D
Hey.
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E
Oo.
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A
They got a chain and everything.
- [24:32]
E
Look at the chain. I see the chain. You don't see the soccer jersey, though.
- [24:38]
A
Chad, is this me? Did they do me right?
- [24:41]
E
They did me right because that. That's how I look when I laugh.
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A
Ah, man, this is unbelievable. Michael. Thank you, man. Congratulations. Continued success. Hey, wherever where you're gonna be, where you're supposed to be. But all you do Once you get there, show up and show out.
- [24:56]
G
That's it. Absolutely. I appreciate that.
- [24:58]
E
Hey, do me a small favor. When I have that wider workshop, I hope to see you.
- [25:02]
G
Okay.
- [25:02]
E
Yeah, I hope to see you.
- [25:03]
G
Yeah.
- [25:03]
E
Come on now. Come politic with the fellas, man.
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G
I'll pull up.
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E
No.
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F
Yes.
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G
I appreciate that.
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A
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G
I love you guys show.
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A
It's one of my favorites. A lot of interaction, guys not taking themselves too seriously. Those are just some of the things that you can expect from Stugouts Co. And Stegotson Co. LIVE. So listen to Stegotson Co. LIVE and our original podcast. Please subscribe, rate and review Stugatson Co. And God bless football. Taylor's livelihood depends on it. Do it today and you can check all of those out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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E
This show contains information subject to but.
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A
Not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more.
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E
What's up, man? This your boy, Nav Green from the Broken Play podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. But guess what? Ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect Podcast Network.
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A
Another team who ain't going to the playoff? The Chiefs. What's a rep?
- [27:10]
E
It's time to rebuild. Who?
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A
Your MVP right now then Drake May.
- [27:13]
D
Up there, Josh Allen up there still.
- [27:16]
A
Oh, my boy, Matthew Stafford.
- [27:18]
C
Where did Bo Nicks at?
- [27:20]
A
He ain't too far behind.
- [27:21]
C
He did all this talking.
- [27:23]
A
What Matthew Stafford is doing, statistically, bro, is crazy. Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better.
- [27:30]
E
Web Caleb Williams. Hey, he should be in that conversation.
- [27:33]
C
In what conversation?
- [27:34]
A
He should be in it.
- [27:35]
E
Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green.
- [27:37]
A
From the Black Effect podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever.
- [27:42]
E
You get your podcast.
- [27:44]
A
Appreciate you, bro. Joining us now, promo linebacker hall of Famer for The San Francisco 49ers 5 deuce.
- [27:57]
E
Bam Bam.
- [27:57]
A
Ole Miss. He was very excited for his college team because they did make it advance to the college football playoffs and they were very, very close to advancing into the national championship game. Here he is, ladies and gentlemen.
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B
Patrick Willis.
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A
Pat, what's going on, bro?
- [28:10]
D
Doing fabulous. Doing fabulous. Thank you guys for having me. Man, I can't believe I'm up here right now, man, beside you guys, man. I see you guys like almost every night.
- [28:19]
E
Pat, tell him that story, man. Tell him that story. I forgot what game was. I ran, I ran, you know, I ran him over. I caught him flipping.
- [28:24]
B
Huh?
- [28:25]
E
Now you can tell me, Pat, just tell me.
- [28:26]
D
It's okay.
- [28:27]
A
It's okay.
- [28:28]
D
No, I do remember, though, a lot of people don't, don't know that Chad is the one who actually named, gave me the, the nickname Bam Bam because.
- [28:35]
E
You had the club.
- [28:38]
D
That was my rookie year. Either my rookie year or second year. We was getting ready to play at Cincinnati and you was talking about me, whatnot. I just wanted to say, man, I really appreciate that.
- [28:46]
F
Still stick to this day?
- [28:47]
E
Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. I never forget. What's the name of the stadium we played in? I can't remember the name. Yeah, I think.
- [28:53]
D
Was it, yeah, Candlestick back then.
- [28:55]
E
Yeah, that was, that was my first and I think maybe my last time ever being here outside of this visit now. So I haven't been here since. And the city's awesome. The city's awesome. I really never had the time to, to come here and experience the city and, you know, travel and go around the people of the Nice. Very receptive to my. I love you so I, I, I, I enjoyed it so far.
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D
I love, I love the Bay Area.
- [29:16]
A
Let me, let me ask you this. What's going on with all the injuries in San Fran. Cuz every year you guys have injuries and they're the key players and sometimes you look, look, you lost your quarterback for, for a period of time, but M. Jones came in and played exceptionally well. You lose Bosa for the entire season. I think Warner goes down and he misses like 10 games of the season. Williams, Big Trent, T Dub, he goes out for a period of time he comes back, George Kittle misses tie with a hamstring, comes back, tears the Achilles. What's going on with the injuries in San Fran, man?
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D
Sharpe, that's a great question. What I'll say is we all know at this game of football can is tough. You know, it's rough on the body and, and those guys have played a lot of football. They've played a lot of football. And so I'm one of those type of people that I also do analysis meaning like, you know, you hope you have a career where you never have any injuries, but at the same time, man, there's, if you played a lot of football, you're going to have some injuries.
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A
Years of wear and tear, it builds up.
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D
And those guys and those guys, I don't, they're not old.
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A
Old.
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D
I'm not calling them old, but they got some miles. They got some miles on their body.
- [30:31]
A
And football years, they old.
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D
So when I, so when I look at it, I just kind of look at it as one of those things that, how everything kind of ebbs and flows. Like they just, in that period right now, it's got some older guys who played a lot of football and it just, that's what, that's what comes with it. But I have heard a lot about, you know, the different conversations and stuff. So.
- [30:52]
A
Pat, when you, you play, look, obviously you go to the, the, the, the Super bowl in 2012, you play the, you play the Ravens, and you guys came with a throw away. When you look back on your career, is there anything you, you wish you could have done differently? Is there anything you, you, I mean, you, you, you retired, but you weren't that old, Pat. You were. What was it, Year eight?
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F
Yeah.
- [31:17]
A
And you, you walked away from the game at 29 years of age. Why?
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B
Why, man?
- [31:25]
D
Truthfully, it was, it was a conversation I had with myself in the beginning, before I ever started playing this before. It was a conversation I had with myself my rookie year. I said, everything that starts has an end. And I remember seeing guys who were being young and being a fan of the sport. You seen guys who just, I'm like, man, why, why, why are you standing? Why are you still out there? It doesn't like you want to give it everything you have. And I was a big fan of like, listen, if you out here and you ain't giving everything you have, I don't care what name you have or who they put in front of you, I'm not a fan of yours. I might be a fan of the special team guys that's getting everything they got. So I just remember getting to that. That point, and I didn't know it would come this fast, but I just remember getting to that point to where my body. My feet were hurting. The biggest thing with the corporate was my. Was my feet. Them big toes, like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It got to the point where I couldn't even go through a walkthrough without having to put numbing cream on. I remember. I remember Kassim, man, he was my best friend. One season. One season he was with us because he introduced me to his numbing cream, and it helped for a while, but it just got to the point to where it would just take.
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A
That didn't even help.
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D
Yeah. And it was taking more out of me. And I remember the conversation I had with myself and God, and it was almost like one of the things where the hardest thing in life sometimes. Sometimes to do is to be honest with yourself.
- [32:38]
A
Yes.
- [32:38]
D
And I just felt it looked around me, and I said, you know what? It's. It's time to step away before you mess around and start getting to the point to where they start seeing it and they started looking at them. All right? How can we get. How can we get rid of them? And I know I didn't have it in my body to go anywhere else. To go anywhere else and to give. To give that kind of love, to give that kind of heart that I had given to San Fran. I mean, as you just said, talking about the stadium candlestick is not there anymore. And it feels. It feels like in disbelief, like somebody took my heart or something and just. Just said, we're just gonna crush it and just don't encourage. You played here. And so that was home for me.
- [33:16]
E
As difficult as that decision is, especially with the body, the mind knows what to do, but the body doesn't react. The body's not feeling the same way. Where, you know, I can go out here and give it my all. The transition and into having to leave and walk away from the game. How has that transition been for you? Mentally?
- [33:36]
D
I'll say this, man. We all go through that dark night of the soul where you find yourself in that space of, like, all right, you say, like, I'm all good, but you know, deep down inside you, like, man, like, what is going on? Just nothing just feels like it connects.
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B
We.
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D
Because I realized. And someone asked me, I realized that football, it's not.
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A
It's not everything part of your life.
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D
But it's the umbilical cord to life. Like, for a Lot of us. It really is. And so I noticed, like, the last couple years, I've been fortunate to be back around the Niners. After dibbling, dabbling in the entrepreneurial world a little bit, you realize, like, it's hard to build businesses out here. It's hard to build something that's going to sustain, to point the. To the point to where you can be comfortable and just, you know, like.
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A
Make money.
- [34:23]
B
Yeah, make money. And so what I.
- [34:25]
D
What I learned in being back around in honors was just the. The everything that 100 years of business or 75 years of business and, and what it takes and then just working with people who are without. What we've come to know now is in my. In my financial literacy talk. We call him. Is he just a guy? Is he a pro bowler or is he an all pro pro? And I was trying to do things with people that meant well, but they were just guys, just the guy. And we know what it's like when you're on a team and not speaking down anyone, but if you just got a team just full of guys, yeah, you go. You might.
- [34:59]
E
You can only get so far, but you only.
- [35:00]
D
You only get so far. And so. So I say all that to say, man, the journey has been. Has been crazy. If I say it's been absolutely easy, even though I made a decision, I'll be lying to you. I just get up each day. Each day the Lord wakes me up. I just. I'm grateful because of so many reasons where I come from, everything I've had to overcome to get to just play football. And then really the hardest part is I think football was actually the. The world got different. It got harder after football, you know, and so just to be able to be up here talking to you guys and be able to converse on it, like, I'm grateful. That's dope.
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A
That's Patrick Willis, ladies and gentlemen, all pro hall of Fame linebacker from The San Francisco 49ers. What you got? Oh, oh, oh.
- [35:44]
D
Before I go, Before I go. Oh, before I go. I wanted to let everybody know that it's going down tomorrow at Lucky Strikes. We're doing Go Bowling. So everybody, they won't let me stop this. Tomorrow is going down at Lucky Strikes Go Bowling and NFL Alumni association is hosting attendees. We'll be going there, we'll be competing, but we want everybody to go to goboling.com and sign up and get you a free game.
- [36:15]
E
I'm ready. Go bowling dot com. Hey, you know, you know, I could buy. I bowl of 300.
- [36:19]
D
What? Three.
- [36:19]
E
I could bow. Yeah, 300.
- [36:21]
D
Man, let me see it.
- [36:21]
E
I was on the pro circuit.
- [36:22]
D
Man, let me see.
- [36:23]
E
I was on the pro circuit back in 97.
- [36:27]
D
Okay, let me see it.
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A
Patrick Willis, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you to Matt.
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D
You guys keep doing what you're doing.
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A
Joining us now is Kyle and Christian. Jus check the 49ers. Fullback, 2013, 4th round pick out of Harvard.
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B
Yes, sir.
- [36:46]
E
Well, you went to Harvard too.
- [36:48]
A
Yes.
- [36:50]
B
Hey, he's one of our most famous alumni.
- [36:52]
E
Thank you. Hey, I try to tell him all the time I was there, they never believed me. So I'm glad you're here to attest to that.
- [36:58]
B
Senior picture on the wall.
- [36:59]
E
Thank you.
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A
A Raven.
- [37:00]
C
I also like to tell people I went to Harvard.
- [37:04]
A
4Th round draft pick from Harvard. He started his career with the Ravens 2013-2016, and now he's present with the 49ers from 2017 until present. And we just had Patrick Willis on here. And you know, he retired at 29 years of age. You said the injury, his toes had just taken its toll on him. The injuries this year, you get. Purdy goes down. Mac Jones played really well. Keep you guys afloat. Kittle hurts his hamstring. He misses some time, comes back tears as a Keely Trent. Dub t dub. He goes down. I mean, Bosa, he goes down. Fred Warner, he goes down. How were you able. The injuries, that's one thing. But how were you guys able to keep this thing afloat while so many. So many injuries were piling up?
- [37:47]
B
Yeah, you know what? I. I really, I really think it comes down just to the culture that.
- [37:50]
F
We'Ve built in San Francisco.
- [37:52]
B
And it truly is that next man up mentality. And it sounds cliche and nobody wants to hear it, but I really do think that we've. We've set this standard that when guys go down, like, they know, okay, I need to be up to this standard if I want to stick around here. So I think we just did a really good job of having that standard and guys were ready to meet it when they got their opportunity.
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A
Yeah.
- [38:13]
E
The funny thing I always wanted to ask. I've watched you play many of years. The value that you bring to a team, you think about the game and how the game has evolved. And now it's a passing league, being a fullback. But that's the funny thing. You're not just a fullback. They can put you in the slot. Hell, they can line your ass up out wide and you can actually run routes just like he pulled them up.
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A
Like Y' all dangle throw me.
- [38:32]
E
But how did you get yourself to a point where you're so valuable to any of the 32 teams that you would play on?
- [38:40]
B
Yeah.
- [38:40]
E
Despite the game evolving the way it.
- [38:42]
B
Has forever dating all the way back to high school, like my thing has always been versatility and being able to adapt. And as a fullback, you, you better be able to adapt because each year you kind of, you got to find something that you're adding value to. Yes, and every year of my career has been different. Like there were a few years back in Baltimore where I mean I was really playing short yardage, goal line and then that, I mean that's not enough to just have a roster sp.
- [39:07]
F
Right.
- [39:07]
B
So you better play deep or you.
- [39:09]
F
Better play special team.
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B
And then I became a third down running back. So I started, you know, I learned all the protections and so every year it, it, I've had to find that niche of like, all right, what does this team need this year and how can I fill that? And it's just been a strength of mine and I think that's a, A, a big part of my longevity in this league.
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A
Kristen, you did the better half of this gentleman right here. You attend every single game.
- [39:33]
C
Game I do.
- [39:34]
A
Road home overseas, Alaska. It does not matter. Why is it so important for you to be at every single one of his games?
- [39:42]
C
Yeah, well, there's so many reasons. I mean it's such a short lived career and we know that these are our glory days. And I never want to miss out on just these special moments being there. We've had so many amazing moments. I mean, there was a moment in Seattle that me and Claire Kittle, who I traveled all the games with, we actually got a seat in air the end zone and we were first row in the end zone. George scores and he jumps into the suite with us next. The next drive, Kyle scores in the end zone, jumps into the suite with us and those memories are just burned into our souls. And those are the reason. That's the reason why we go.
- [40:13]
E
One of the things I do want to ask also is we, we never get to see the two. We never get to see the union. How you're able to balance the work and also keep a healthy balance in a relationship.
- [40:23]
C
Yeah. To be honest, I think for us it just, just comes so naturally. It's not something that we really needed to work on. We just genuinely like spending time with each other and loving each other. And I think that's my biggest piece of advice for relationships. Like if it's real work then that's not the right person for you.
- [40:37]
E
Right?
- [40:37]
B
Right.
- [40:37]
C
I think it should come natural.
- [40:38]
E
Say that again.
- [40:39]
C
If it's not what if it's real work, it's not the right person for you.
- [40:44]
B
People. People say that marriage is so hard.
- [40:46]
C
And each other like they're like read the marriage books. I'm like if you got to read a book, book on marriage, you're not married to the right person like that.
- [40:54]
A
Okay.
- [40:55]
B
Because you know me and like I'm.
- [40:56]
E
Throwing away all me and un. We think about getting married in 2027 and having a dual wedding, you know. You know, I love it. Yeah, we love it too. I think, I think you guys. We need therapists. We need therapists. And the fact that you guys haven't figured out you could counsel us.
- [41:11]
B
We got you.
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D
We're. We're.
- [41:13]
C
Add that to my resume.
- [41:14]
A
But you hear this a lot cuz Claire and you can speak to this. This is more so. Because you're going to do what you do. You understand? You got practice.
- [41:20]
F
You understand?
- [41:21]
A
We got meeting. I got a lift. I got to watch tape. Talk about the sacrifices that the, the significant other, girlfriend, wife, whatever the case may be that they have to make. Because there are a lot of times he can't go to pta. There's a lot of time he can't go to recitals. There's a lot of times he can't pick the kids up. And you have to do that. But you have to be accepting because sometimes people, the, the partner gets upset. Why you can't do it. Well, can you go run a go route? Can you go sack the quarterback and then we'll switch roles for a second. Talk about some of the sacrifices that, that you have to make to keep this. Because you're the rock, you're the foundation piece. Because you keep his mind at ease because he knows everything is taken care of home.
- [42:01]
C
Well, to be honest, I think that's the main reason why we haven't had children yet. To be honest. Because I think I want him to, to be able to spend those late signs at the facility if he needs to get extra rehab. I don't want him to feel like he needs to come home and have to take care of things. I want again it's a short lived career. I want him to be selfish. I won't ever want him to look back at this period of his life and think that I wish I did more or I wish I did this. So I. We've kind of pushed that off and we know, we have our whole lives to have a family together. So. And to I have my own career path as well. And he's been incredibly support. Supportive on that. I think that, to be honest, is the perfect recipe. If you're sitting at home and you're constantly waiting for him to come home, I think when maybe animosity builds up. So for me, I'm working and trying to build my own dreams and my own career. So when he comes home, we're just happy to share what our day has been like with each other.
- [42:52]
E
Did you hear what she said? She understands the sacrifice. She understands what goes into it. She understands what it entails to actually be a NFL play. NFL player.
- [43:01]
A
Yeah.
- [43:02]
E
Once you have someone that understands the sacrifices to get it. You know what, baby? I get it. We gonna put certain things on the back burner because I know this is what you have to do. This is what comes first.
- [43:10]
C
Absolutely. It was his dream since he even knew the word football.
- [43:13]
A
Yeah.
- [43:13]
C
So I would never want to take anything away from that.
- [43:15]
A
But you, but you, and we've heard this. Ocho and I, we both heard this. And, but you say you understand and you want that, but did you realize how much of a sacrifice that it entailed. Yeah. Before you got with this gentleman.
- [43:29]
C
I, I don't think it's that much of a sacrifice. I, I, I think he's following his dreams and it's admirable. Like, I, I, he really did. Like, I wake up every day. He's so happy to go to work. He's not.
- [43:40]
B
I love my job.
- [43:41]
C
The fact that he even calls it work is hilarious. And so to be honest, I think, and I'm not trying to take away from how much time and commitment he puts into it, but out of all the other professionals sports, I think it's almost the most similar to a 9 to 5. Like, he doesn't. He plays 17 games in the regular season. It's not like he's playing a game every other day.
- [44:00]
A
Baseball.
- [44:02]
E
Right.
- [44:02]
C
Yeah. So I think. And if the NFL is obviously a huge commitment. Not trying to take that away whatsoever. But I think he balances it really well. And we have four months off together.
- [44:12]
A
Yeah.
- [44:12]
C
To do whatever we want.
- [44:14]
E
I like it. I like it.
- [44:15]
A
You mentioned you, your own dream. Dreams and aspirations. You, you started out sewing pieces just for basically for yourself and him. And then someone like, what? Well, how can I get that? And he's like, and whose idea was like, babe, I'm gonna turn this into a business or you can turn this into a Business.
- [44:33]
C
Yeah, I think I really, I was doing it for myself, truly, just because I didn't like what was offered at the store.
- [44:40]
A
You didn't like the gift shop here?
- [44:42]
C
I, I did not.
- [44:43]
B
The pink shirts and the V necks.
- [44:45]
C
There was not enough options for me. So, I mean, it just was like a natural progression. And then there was this one time that I was at a game and I was looking around, it was a freezing game, and every guy there is wearing this huge puffer jacket and they have a jersey over their puffer jacket. And I'm just like, why has there never been a jacket that has the player's name and number on it so you can be cold and you're not like restricted wearing a jersey. So that was kind of like my life bowl moment. And then when I made my first so called jersey puffer vest is when I was like, oh, I'm on.
- [45:14]
A
Yeah, yeah.
- [45:15]
B
Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [45:15]
A
Have you always. Have you always been good with, with, you know, sewing and putting things together?
- [45:21]
C
To be honest, no, I didn't go to school for fashion. I was a business major. But like, I come from a family of entrepreneurs who are just kind of like the figure it out kind of gritty people. And so I just was like, I'll go to YouTube and I'll learn how to do it. That's what I did.
- [45:34]
E
That's dope.
- [45:35]
A
I Hear People say YouTube can teach you anything.
- [45:38]
C
You achieve university 15.
- [45:41]
A
You just finished the 15th season, right?
- [45:42]
B
Just finished 13.
- [45:43]
G
13.
- [45:44]
A
How much? I mean, there aren't a whole lot of fullbacks. You and Rashad up in Baltimore, y' all are really the true fullbacks. Everybody else, they'll bring an offense or defensive lineman in on short yardage. But there's really. You two guys are left. How many have you said, have you, you sat down with, with, with Christian and have you got guys mapped out? You know what? Babe, I want to play two more years. Babe, I want to play three more years. Or you want to play as long as. As long as a guy to give you health and allow you to do it. It seems to me that she's going to be very supportive and she's not putting a time limit on when you guys, you know, you need to go.
- [46:16]
B
Exactly right? Is she's been super supportive that as long as I want to play, she's on board. And the way I look at it is as long as I'm healthy and I'm still having fun, like I'm gonna keep the doing it. And so everyone, you know, when you get to this stage, especially after, like, 10 years.
- [46:31]
G
Yeah.
- [46:32]
B
How many more years?
- [46:33]
E
One at a time.
- [46:34]
B
And that is the truth, man. Like, you really take it one year at a time. And I like to even push it to. All right, let's go two years at a time.
- [46:41]
G
Let's.
- [46:42]
F
So nobody.
- [46:42]
B
Nobody's giving me.
- [46:45]
A
Yeah.
- [46:45]
B
I would like another guarantee.
- [46:48]
D
But I.
- [46:48]
B
Feel so good right now, and I'm having so much fun. Like, I. I can't even envision what it's like to stop playing yet. So I'm not gonna, you know, put a end line at it.
- [46:58]
D
Let's.
- [46:58]
B
I'm gonna tell you guys. I'm gonna tell everyone else at least two more.
- [47:01]
A
Yeah.
- [47:02]
B
And then we'll go one at a time.
- [47:03]
E
The funny thing about it is, is there's really no time limit on. On you and how long you can play because of the value that you bring to the team. There aren't too many where there ain't none that can do what you do.
- [47:13]
G
Right.
- [47:13]
B
I appreciate.
- [47:13]
E
There's only one other, and he's on a team.
- [47:16]
B
And. And you're not seeing too many fullbacks in college, so.
- [47:18]
G
Bingo.
- [47:19]
B
You're not seeing anyone getting drafted.
- [47:20]
A
It's a thankless job.
- [47:21]
B
Yeah.
- [47:22]
A
They. They give you on 4th and 1. And when you don't get it, how could you not get it wrong?
- [47:26]
B
Because the whole team's teeing off right now.
- [47:30]
A
There was 12 guys. There was 12 guys.
- [47:31]
B
There Was 12 guys in that.
- [47:32]
A
Eight guys. Well, congratulations, man. Kristen, it was very nice to meet you.
- [47:36]
B
Kyle, great talking.
- [47:38]
A
Congratulations, man. Tell Bobby.
- [47:40]
B
Another Harvard alumni man.
- [47:41]
E
Yes, sir.
- [47:41]
A
Tell Bobby.
- [47:42]
F
Appreciate it.
- [47:42]
A
What's up?
- [47:43]
B
Oh, I definitely. Hey, before we leave, we do have to mention Invisalign. Oh, yeah. They're the reason we're here today.
- [47:50]
A
Okay.
- [47:50]
B
And I'm just like Ocho here. I'm a nut about my health. You know, everything I put into my body, I make sure it's the absolute best, just like Ocho. And Invisalign is huge for oral health, and oral health is just another component of your overall health. And I always look at it, if I can improve any part of my body that's going to improve part of my game. And so Invisalign has helped with that, and in my mind, is helping me with.
- [48:16]
C
They're such an amazing company. I've worked with them for three years now. So it's amazing to have Kyle finally on board. Yeah, they do so much for women in sports and just, like, confidence building. So we're just happy to partner with Them again. I also have another thing for you guys.
- [48:29]
A
I saw those bags. Yes.
- [48:31]
E
We got gifts.
- [48:32]
G
We got gifts.
- [48:32]
C
I brought you guys my super bowl jacket size.
- [48:35]
A
Wow.
- [48:35]
C
I don't have the right size for you.
- [48:37]
E
I'm a large.
- [48:38]
C
You're a large. I'll get you a large. I have an XL and a large. Okay, I gotta get you an XL then.
- [48:43]
A
I think I might.
- [48:43]
E
No, no, he's. He's xl. I'm the largest.
- [48:45]
C
No, I'm gonna get you the largest.
- [48:46]
A
I think that might fit you. I don't think I can fit that.
- [48:49]
B
I think it's been working out okay.
- [48:52]
A
Shelly says she can fit it.
- [48:53]
C
You want. I can get you a 2x, but you know what?
- [48:56]
A
I want you to. Can you. Can you make us a night?
- [48:59]
C
Want a nightcap? Jacket? Yeah, I'll put it on it. I'll put it. I'll figure it out.
- [49:03]
B
She'll figure it out.
- [49:04]
C
Let's see.
- [49:06]
B
Throw that out on show.
- [49:08]
C
Come on.
- [49:08]
E
Yeah, I'm sexy, bro.
- [49:12]
A
Yeah.
- [49:13]
E
Hey, how'd it look?
- [49:15]
B
Incredible. Yeah, incredible. Fits great, too.
- [49:18]
C
It's amazing.
- [49:19]
B
Yeah. So that goes crazy.
- [49:21]
C
All right, I'll get you the 2X.
- [49:22]
E
You need a model, let me know.
- [49:23]
C
Okay, perfect.
- [49:24]
A
I definitely could. You. What do you wear, X or 2XL. Okay.
- [49:30]
B
You might need a 2X.
- [49:31]
C
All right, I'll get you the 2X. I'll send it over here.
- [49:33]
A
All right.
- [49:33]
E
Thank you. I can keep it?
- [49:34]
A
You can keep it.
- [49:35]
C
It's for you. Hope you guys like it.
- [49:37]
A
Thank you so much.
- [49:39]
B
Appreciate you guys. It's a pleasure. Baby, you look incredible.
- [49:41]
A
Thank you.
- [49:42]
C
Hope you like it.
- [49:44]
A
Kyle and Christian youth check. Pullback for The San Francisco 49ers. Made another pro Bowl. He's one of the great fullbacks in the NFL. He's played for an extremely long time. He's applied. He's played at an extremely, extremely high level. And his wife, as you can see, she's very, very supportive in it. And you see why. They. They. They're. They're one of the cutest couples in the NFL. Very supportive. 2020, huh? Yeah. Former rookie of the year, Washington commanders quarterback. Leave it off. How you doing, man?
- [50:28]
F
I'm good. What's up?
- [50:29]
A
I'm good. I'm good, bro. How you feeling?
- [50:31]
F
I'm feeling real good.
- [50:33]
A
You. Have you. Have you started. Have you started off season conditioning yet? Are you giving your. Your body a chance to heal up and get ready to start?
- [50:39]
F
I have a long time to heal up. I already started. I started.
- [50:43]
A
You. You started back in December.
- [50:44]
F
Yeah, I Started.
- [50:45]
A
So where's home for you?
- [50:47]
F
I'm in la.
- [50:47]
A
You in la?
- [50:48]
F
Yeah.
- [50:48]
A
Oh, okay.
- [50:50]
E
You like it?
- [50:51]
B
You like it in LA?
- [50:52]
F
Yeah, you know, I'm a SoCal boy.
- [50:55]
E
Most of the time. Obviously once you reach a certain heights, you know, in your career, some people time you tend to move to a different place, someone that's yours, somewhere that's.
- [51:04]
F
Always gonna be home. Even la. I'm not from la. I'm from like, I'm from the Inland Empire. That's like an hour east, right?
- [51:10]
E
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine.
- [51:11]
F
But, but I'm most definitely that's always going to be home, so. Always home.
- [51:14]
A
Yeah. Okay. So watching this, these two teams, the Patriots, Drake May obviously was in your draft. Sam Darnold went to usc, third pick in the draft. Everybody that we've come on, we have not found one player that has picked the Patriots to win this game. How do you see this game playing out?
- [51:33]
F
Pick the Patriots. Nobody picked the Patriots.
- [51:35]
A
Nope.
- [51:36]
E
Nobody. I could tell you why they haven't.
- [51:38]
A
Because I'm a roll in my draft class. You okay? You're taking Drake.
- [51:41]
F
I'm gonna roll my draft class.
- [51:42]
A
Okay. I like that.
- [51:44]
F
What you mean?
- [51:45]
E
You serious?
- [51:46]
F
I'm gonna roll my draft class.
- [51:47]
E
Even with that defense the Seahawks have at all three levels, huh?
- [51:51]
F
I played them, they got a phenomenal defense.
- [51:53]
B
But I gotta roll my drive.
- [51:54]
D
Okay.
- [51:55]
E
You rolling the draft class. Okay, okay, okay.
- [51:57]
A
How do you, how do you see this, how do you see this game playing out, Man?
- [52:01]
F
I think whoever is able to, whatever defense is able to stop the run and kind of limit and keep them one sided. Obviously what the Seahawks has done this year, offensively, defensively, out of the world. Jsn. Obviously the numbers he put up, crazy, crazy falling. But man, I feel like, I feel like if Drake can keep going, man.
- [52:24]
D
They got a good chance.
- [52:26]
A
Obviously like you said, you have a lot of time to recover, decompress, so you, you obviously you're back into training.
- [52:32]
F
Yeah.
- [52:33]
A
But there's still some things that you probably like to do. So what, what, what do you do now until you get, I mean really, really start with like April and you know, you haven't start getting back to OTAs. What, what are you doing in your free time right now, outside?
- [52:47]
F
I'm just spending time with my family. Spending time my loved ones. You got, you know, you kind of sacrifice that time throughout the season. You don't really get that time. So it's like after I'm done with my obligations of training and doing whatever man, is that if I take the time to watch the film, go back and watch the season, you know, I'm kind of just spending time with my loved ones, my friends, you know, that comes visit me, we'll kind of just kick it.
- [53:10]
E
You're like, what a fun. What, you gotta have some fun, like dirt bike riding, motorcycles, bull riding, parachuting. No parachute.
- [53:19]
F
And the commanders killed me. They heard I was doing something like that.
- [53:22]
B
I'm tripping.
- [53:24]
F
It is all season. It is all season. I might hoop here and.
- [53:27]
D
There you go.
- [53:28]
F
Yeah. Can you.
- [53:29]
E
What you play? What you mean? What you're not. I ain't gonna say nothing. What you mean, what? You know, in high school, I averaged 52 a game.
- [53:37]
F
52 a game.
- [53:38]
E
52.
- [53:38]
F
How many games?
- [53:39]
E
Three.
- [53:40]
F
Okay, okay.
- [53:41]
E
Three.
- [53:42]
B
Yeah.
- [53:42]
E
You know, I do it all now, you know, you know my background.
- [53:45]
F
I do, yeah.
- [53:46]
E
He played with my son, Coach.
- [53:48]
A
How.
- [53:48]
F
How.
- [53:51]
A
How much film. How much film do you watch in the off season? Do you. Do you. Do you watch? You know, you go back and look at what your team did, what you did last year? Or do you fast forward or do you move forward?
- [54:02]
F
No, I think I learned this. I learned this from Bobby Wagner last year. Like, he does it at the air. He goes back and watches the whole season.
- [54:08]
A
Yeah. And evaluate it.
- [54:10]
F
Evaluates himself.
- [54:11]
A
Okay.
- [54:11]
F
So that's kind of what I do. And then this year, you know, I kind of already started it, so I finished it. But at that point, it's like, okay, now I kind of have an understanding. Like, this is what I feel like I need to work on this off.
- [54:22]
A
Season and stuff like that.
- [54:23]
F
So I have a better gist when.
- [54:24]
A
It comes to sitting down and talking to my team.
- [54:26]
F
Around me, I'm like, this is what I feel like I need to work on.
- [54:30]
A
Oh, man. Jaden, appreciate you, man. Hey, all the best. Get healthy, Stay healthy. Hey, you got a big. This a big year, you know, it's a big year. You know it. Hey, I'm counting on you now.
- [54:40]
D
All right, I got you.
- [54:40]
A
All right. Come. Come tap in with us with Nightcap 1. Well, one night next year. Bet. Joining us now is all pro defensive rookie of the year.
- [54:54]
B
Yeah, yeah.
- [54:54]
E
Hey, boy, he looked like money, huh? Now, go ahead, put him on.
- [54:58]
A
That was the little. You could hear it. Can you hear. You hear us now?
- [55:02]
E
Hold on.
- [55:03]
A
Okay, hold on. Let me.
- [55:03]
B
Let me hold. Let me unzip, man. Let me unzip, man. Hey, let me unzip, man. I do gotta ask you.
- [55:10]
A
Hold on.
- [55:11]
B
I've been seeing you. Yeah, I've been seeing you.
- [55:13]
A
Yeah.
- [55:13]
E
I mean, you can't come on here stunting on us like that, man.
- [55:16]
B
I thought he was the cheap guy who. What happened to that? I'm still. I'm still cheap.
- [55:20]
A
What happened to that?
- [55:21]
B
Hold on.
- [55:22]
C
Let me see.
- [55:22]
B
Let me see that.
- [55:23]
E
What? Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [55:25]
B
This ain't. No. Hold on.
- [55:26]
D
Yeah.
- [55:26]
A
Come on, man.
- [55:27]
B
Yeah, this. No, that ain't a jubilee bracelet. That's a presidential band.
- [55:32]
E
Yeah, that's what I do. I want to be the President.
- [55:35]
A
Well, actually, that's. Actually, it's called a day date. They call it the presidential bracelet because that's what the President's doing. No, Senator Kennedy, when he was. Yeah, he had it on.
- [55:44]
E
I know.
- [55:45]
A
So they gave it. They gave it that nickname. Yeah, but it's actually a day date. But anyway, Sauce, how you doing, bro? I'm good. Check this out.
- [55:54]
B
It's a blessing to be here, man. Blessing to be here, man.
- [55:59]
A
There's no way you could envision. Obviously, you played well your first couple years. You got ding. And then you signed this massive contract, this massive contract in the off season, and not even six, seven months later, you're dealt to the Indianapolis Colts. Tell me what goes through you, your mind, when they give you that call and say, sauce, we're trading you to Indy. And, And. And the aftermath of that.
- [56:23]
B
I. I can't give you my exact reaction, but I wasn't. I wasn't mad at it. I went mad at it. How could you?
- [56:35]
E
How could you mad?
- [56:36]
B
You're going from.
- [56:37]
E
You're going from the jets to the Colts. You're going from a team that's not contending to going to a Colts team that is doing extremely well.
- [56:45]
B
I wouldn't be mad either, but I did, like, I missed the fans, you know, my teammates, you know, the fans. When it wasn't like toxic.
- [56:57]
E
Right, right.
- [56:58]
B
Energy. I'm talking about those type of. The fans when. When I got drafted, me, Gary, they're excited. The excitement, the optimism, and not the looking for bad every time it's something good.
- [57:10]
E
Yes.
- [57:11]
B
Like those fans. Not because all of the fans weren't like that. You had some true die hard jets fans who always wanted positive, like, you know, things to come out of it. But I did. I did miss the. The good ones and I did miss my teammates.
- [57:24]
A
Sauce, I would be remiss if I said, looking at you, your first two years, you were hands down the best coach. You and Pat certain y' all was going back and forth, the best corners. I felt some of your play and I Don't know if it was injured. You can clear it up right now that your play, some of your play had slipped and you weren't that same player. I wasn't the only one that felt that way. But I have you here and I can't say well you know, all of a sudden I have you here. It's not going to want to say what I've said before many times on Nightcap before. Do you feel your play is slipped? And if so, is it injuries what transpired, fired where you're not that because people started to challenge you Whereas your first two years ain't nobody trying to see sauce. They was caught up in the sauce.
- [58:06]
B
Ah, see, look this, this why I think y' all don't understand.
- [58:09]
A
Okay?
- [58:09]
B
It was the opposite. The first two years everybody was trying to see what was up with me. I was having 80 targets. The first two years I was having 80 targets. So if we gonna talk about like ratio. Yes, I was having 80 targets and was getting, getting like all right, I get two picks out of that when I should have had more picks with 80 some targets.
- [58:29]
A
Correct.
- [58:30]
B
I'm getting 30 something targets. The only other corner that is given getting that same amount of like respect and treatment is Pat.
- [58:39]
G
Right?
- [58:40]
B
Nobody else is get Pat is the only other corner where it's like. Because and another thing people don't. You don't really see me get beat. That's why if I ask you which plays have I got beat in? You will know exactly which one you want me to tell you why? Because you don't see too much plays.
- [58:57]
A
That I give you.
- [58:58]
E
Can you can always recall if I.
- [58:59]
B
Got, if I ask you what play, hey, what play? What are you going to say? George. Yeah, George had a play on me this year. He's probably one of like three receivers to have 50 some yards on me as a single receiver.
- [59:13]
E
Right.
- [59:13]
B
I've never gave up 100 yard game in general alone, let alone to a receiver. It's never happened and I don't plan on that happening. Probably the most yards I've allowed by a receiver, it's probably about 50 something 60. And after George even made that play, he didn't catch another ball.
- [59:30]
E
Right.
- [59:31]
B
I mean that's, that's me though. But I understand how it could be especially like social media, you know, sometimes when you just, you know, when you not really watching and understanding, you just see certain stuff and you just see the negative. Cuz that's, that's how I am. Nobody's posting in my first couple years speaking of jets fans. Even if it was some negative, they was always talking about the positive.
- [59:55]
A
Right?
- [59:56]
B
Now if it's a negative play, everybody want to get on that negative bandwagon. That, bro, I. Why. I got one question.
- [60:04]
G
Yes.
- [60:05]
B
Why am I. Why is my a play from Atlanta where I tripped on somebody's foot on a two point conversion trending while the game is still going on?
- [60:19]
A
Because of your greatness. You're who you are.
- [60:21]
B
Exactly. Yeah.
- [60:22]
A
Because trust me, if you wouldn't be trending.
- [60:25]
E
Yeah.
- [60:26]
A
If you weren't great. Because you built. You built this.
- [60:29]
B
The little things trend.
- [60:30]
A
Yes.
- [60:31]
B
So that's why come to this point, people know now if you want to get engagement, if you're having a bad day of engagement, just mention Sauce's name. It's free. It's free. Everybody knows that. I don't want to give the little Twitter page whatever they call it. I'm not even going to say the name. Yeah, but y' all probably know them. I'm not going to get them no little pub. But they know because it'll be so random. I'll be chilling. I just look, I'm like, dang, why are they tagging me?
- [61:00]
F
Right? Where am.
- [61:01]
B
Where's my. Where am I coming from? They make a little list. Overrated guys in the league.
- [61:05]
A
Yeah. Yeah.
- [61:06]
B
It'd be four quarterbacks in one corner.
- [61:08]
A
What do you think?
- [61:09]
B
The corner, like, what are we talking about?
- [61:11]
E
Does that bother you? Does that bother you? Does that affect you in any way when. When. When there's. There's negativity on social media, or are you able to compartmentalize both and be able to steal? You know what? Forget what they talk about. I'm still gonna go out here and handle my business.
- [61:23]
B
Well, it definitely don't affect me on the field. Never has affected me on the field. I remember when I was early in my career, like, it'd be like, bro, what. Like, what sense is this making? Right? And then now it's just like, that come with the territory. Like, what type of time I've been on. But I do want to have more picks and stuff like that. But that just lets me know, like, all right, I just got to make the most out of these opportunities that's going to come because they not coming. Our Atlanta games. I broke. I broke on a ball. I'm like, I'm thinking Drake London. I'm thinking Drake London about to jump into me and try to go. So I die when it's like, if I know he was just gonna sit there, I should have Just ran through the ball. But it's like from that point, I never had another op. And throughout the season when I was with the Jets, I didn't have no pickup. But so basically what I'm saying is, like, if we gonna talk about it, we gotta talk about it. It got to be an even playing field. Because I feel like at times, and it's the reality. I don't. It's excuses for other guys. Yes, it's excuses. Y' all make excuses for these other corners, and I don't want no excuses. Don't make no excuse for me. Tell me, say what's really going on with me, but say what's really going on with everybody else, too.
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A
Right.
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B
If y' all gonna try to compare me to these other guys or compare these other guys to me, because that's. That's just how. That's how I think it should go.
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A
You healthy. You healthy all the way. Because you had. Remember, you had. You had the calf injury and there was a concern. Obviously, anytime someone gets a calf injury, they get really concerned now with the Achilles, and so they kind of. They kind of be overly cautious. And maybe where you could have came back in one to two weeks, they push it to three or four weeks to make sure, because that's the last thing as a corner, you don't want to ever have to deal with that. And knock on wood, hopefully that does not happen. But you 100 you. Have you already started your off season?
- [63:10]
B
Yes, sir. I'm in Miami with it.
- [63:12]
E
You had the crib.
- [63:13]
B
Miami, Tammy, I just got there.
- [63:15]
E
Okay. Okay. Now listen, you want to get some work in, let me know, okay?
- [63:19]
A
So what's. What's the one thing that's going to take Sauce Gardner's game to the next level? What do you. What do you want to work on? Ball skills, Hand eyes. Because like you said, when you get those opportunities, if you only go get two opportunities, you got to kill.
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B
Yeah.
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A
That's why. That's why animals. You know, venomous snakes in Australia, they might not come across one animal, but for a long period of time.
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E
Yeah.
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A
So they got to strike it. It got that venom. Got to take instantaneous. If you only getting two targets a game, bro, you're gonna have to make something. You have to make it happen.
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B
Look, this is the difference. All right? Let's go more in depth targets.
- [63:53]
A
Yes.
- [63:53]
B
Every target is not a pickable target.
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A
No.
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B
So if I'm getting two targets against game and they throwing it at the ground under, throw out of bounds. All right. I had Two targets and. Okay, I ain't get a hop.
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A
What about past breakups?
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B
Yeah, some of them. Some of them probably can. I gotta. This is what I want to do. I want to take more chances. That's what I. That's what I want to do. Because it's not even always just like, all right, just catch the ball. I have had some drops where it's like, just catch the ball. Right? Like, some of them still hunt me. Like, anytime I see that in person, I immediately think of that 20, 22 play where he threw it right to me.
- [64:28]
A
Yeah.
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B
Like. And I dropped it, you know, but taking chances, too, because I. I've been in the league some years, so take some chances so I can make more plays, you know, Game changer.
- [64:36]
A
I mean, you. You study. I mean, trust your instinct. Sometimes I don't think you trust your instinct. You on top of it, and you.
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B
Like, sometimes I just settle for the pdu.
- [64:46]
E
For sure. For sure.
- [64:48]
B
But I'm not gonna lie to you and. And be like, yeah, I always just go take a shot, you know? But, you know, like you said, studying the whole week. Like, you don't have no reason why you shouldn't be. Like, that's the play where I'm about to.
- [64:59]
A
You know, you don't go into a week and say, you know, what if they run this route. If they run this route in this. Down in disco, in this area of the field.
- [65:09]
B
And more times. More. More times than. So they always do.
- [65:12]
E
Yes.
- [65:13]
B
Copycat le. So they end up running it, not just pbu.
- [65:16]
F
Yeah.
- [65:16]
B
It's like, some. If I dive not. Not the one like in Atlanta, but it's something like, if I dive here, like, all right, this is big. I could dive right there.
- [65:23]
E
How you. How you feel about traveling with the number one receiver?
- [65:25]
B
Oh, and that's another thing. I'm. I'm happy we're here because y'. All.
- [65:29]
D
Y'.
- [65:29]
B
All little. One thing about y'.
- [65:30]
E
All.
- [65:30]
B
Y' all talk about all of the stuff that people want to hear. You know what I'm saying?
- [65:35]
E
Yeah.
- [65:35]
A
So look.
- [65:36]
B
All right, we gonna start from 20, 22. Ah, Sauce not traveling with the receiver one. He's not doing that. I couldn't. Coach Solo wouldn't let me, and I don't think he still let his guys do that.
- [65:48]
G
Right, Right.
- [65:49]
B
Last year, not including this season, last year, traveled with the one receiver. Same thing going on. I. I got lower targets traveling with the ones than when I didn't travel with the ones. Like, I'm just saying, like, I. I Guess I have the source. Have to bring the facts, right? I have. I, I. I've got double the amount of targets traveling. Not traveling, then traveling.
- [66:13]
E
Just stand on one side.
- [66:15]
B
Oh, he get too many PIs. Da, da. That's what the talk was when? Last year.
- [66:19]
A
Yeah.
- [66:19]
B
D d d I think I only had like, three this year.
- [66:24]
A
Or four.
- [66:26]
B
Oh, he be missing tackles. D I think I only had two missed tackles this year. Who have you seen say anything about that?
- [66:34]
E
Nobody.
- [66:35]
B
Nobody. So we gonna really be real. Let's be real. But a lot of people prefer to say the negative and just keep the negative there and don't address the positive. So everybody's just looking at it on this negative thing. But I'm a realist person, so I'm gonna talk about the good and the bad right. Of everything, whether it's any other corner, like, oh, yeah, yeah, damn. Yeah. He ain't have a good game this game. Oh, all right. He had a good game this game. Like, yeah. You know?
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A
Yeah, yeah.
- [67:02]
B
And these corners y' all compare me to, that's how to go. Sometimes they have a bad game. Yes. But if I have a bad game, everybody knows I had a bad game.
- [67:12]
E
But it's different because it's a gift and a curse based on who you are, based on the brand that you become. For one, you were in New York. You know what being in that market does to you. It takes you from here to there. You were already great, especially your first two years. So therefore, they're going to judge you a lot more differently than all the other corners in the NFL. So it comes with the territory.
- [67:32]
A
And you got a nickname.
- [67:33]
B
Hey, yeah.
- [67:34]
A
What's the nickname? Thing is not. That's just short.
- [67:38]
B
I like, I like, I like, I like Sting. Sting, That's a good nickname, but it's short for Stingley.
- [67:43]
A
Ain't no part. Ain't no part of your first name.
- [67:45]
B
Sauce, what's your government?
- [67:47]
A
What's your government, Ahmad? Yeah, hey, Sauce.
- [67:52]
E
It come with the territory.
- [67:54]
A
And plus, you could line it up to my. Hey, it got caught up in the Sauce. And so people, like.
- [68:01]
B
People like, why is he doing this marketing stuff with his name?
- [68:04]
D
And.
- [68:04]
B
And my corner can't do that right now. You think that's what it is?
- [68:07]
E
That.
- [68:08]
B
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
- [68:09]
E
Absolutely.
- [68:10]
A
But.
- [68:10]
B
But look what y' all want me to do? Nothing. No, I'm saying, like, I can't do nothing about who I am as a person and what I.
- [68:18]
A
Nor should you. But I give you a prime example. Look at time. Don't nobody Call him Dion. Everybody call him prime of Time. Yeah. And he. And he understood what came along with that. And he caught a lot of the same stuff because time came in a year before me. He caught him the same. A lot of the stuff that you did, he caught early in his career, but he flipped that narrative. Now it's on you to do the same.
- [68:41]
B
Sure. No, that.
- [68:41]
A
He.
- [68:42]
B
He's somebody who I don't. Obviously, I watch his highlights, but him as a person, so, like, that's somebody who I know is, like, the closest to what I can, like, relate to. You know what I'm saying?
- [68:50]
D
Definitely.
- [68:51]
B
But his was a little more like. He was really overly popping it off the field.
- [68:55]
F
Like, fur.
- [68:55]
B
Like, you can do that.
- [68:57]
E
You can do that.
- [68:58]
B
That's not even. I'm not going to do something that. That's not you.
- [69:01]
E
That's not you.
- [69:02]
B
I'm not the man.
- [69:03]
E
Take advantage of it.
- [69:04]
A
No, that.
- [69:04]
B
That don't.
- [69:06]
A
The fur.
- [69:08]
B
Then my own people is going to be looking at me like, bro, this not even.
- [69:10]
E
Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. When you sco. When you get an interception, put the fur on the sideline.
- [69:15]
A
Don't do that, man.
- [69:15]
B
Hey, I could do that.
- [69:16]
E
You see what I'm see.
- [69:18]
A
Hey, hey.
- [69:19]
E
Take it from.
- [69:19]
B
Take it from here.
- [69:21]
E
Take it from here to here.
- [69:22]
B
N. They know it's his fault, so don't get mad at me.
- [69:26]
A
Hey, come by Hollis on Nightcap.
- [69:28]
D
Oh, yeah.
- [69:28]
B
Just let me know when my. My team said y' all reached out.
- [69:32]
A
Yes, we did.
- [69:32]
B
Yeah, I'll pull up. Y' all be out on the west coast, huh?
- [69:36]
A
Yeah, well, you in Miami, so I have to come down there because we was talking about Club Che.
- [69:41]
D
Shake Show.
- [69:42]
A
Yeah, yeah.
- [69:43]
B
Club Shay. Shit, that's a little different.
- [69:44]
E
That's the one with like. Like, Cat Williams.
- [69:48]
B
Yeah, I remember that. I watched.
- [69:50]
A
That's a nightcap.
- [69:51]
B
You.
- [69:51]
A
Old nightcap right now. But we got a little different vibe. We got a little different vibe at night than we are now. We gotta be, you know, all the advertisement tied to everything. So we. We got.
- [70:00]
B
Yeah, I come. I'll come on Club Sh. You know what I'm saying?
- [70:04]
A
Appreciate you, bro. We'll reach out. Appreciate you, man. Thank you.
- [70:07]
B
Thank you.
- [70:07]
A
Sauce Gardens, ladies and gentlemen. Two time first team all pro defensive rookie of the year, traded from the New York Jets. And two, warning, this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. Hey, it's Velo plus here to debunk the conspiracy. Less is more. Total lie. Why? Because more is more with Velo plus More flavors, more strengths, more comfort. Discover the nicotine pouch with more@velo.com that's v e l o.com underage sale prohibited Velo Plastic Synthetic Nicotine Pouch products Website restricted to age 21/ Copyright 2025 MBI Stigatz here I have a podcast empire that I have brought here to iheart and I'm also hosting a daily live radio show from Crypto 3 to 5pm Eastern called Staghd and Company Live, which is available in podcast form right when the show finishes every single day. You can expect a lot of laughter, great guests, a ton of calls and a lot of fun. Listen to Stegots Co. Live and our original podcast Stugots Co. And God bless Football and you can check all of those out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Podcast.
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E
This show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not.
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A
So accurate stats, and plenty more.
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E
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A
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E
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A
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E
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