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Earl Watson
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Jeff Teague
The volume.
Bow Wow
I don't even have a question for you.
Earl Watson
More or less a salute.
Bow Wow
Because like you said, you've been that since we was kids. We see a lot of people who grew up in Hollywood grow up in fame. They don't always end up the same as adults.
Earl Watson
Right.
Bow Wow
But for you to navigate to be who you are, that's dope. But how was that growing up with all that type of notoriety and just still having to be in a regular person?
Earl Watson
Well, shout out to my mama. I got a black mama. So you know my mama. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Having my mom in my quarter, that played a. A big role. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Into my career.
Jeff Teague
And.
Earl Watson
And not only that, but just for me, just based on what you said. For me, I always studied the ones who came up for me, who up. So I'll be watching them, like, now I know what not to do, because if I slip down that hole, that's what. That's going to be me. So I'll be learning from making their own mistakes. But, you know, I give all credit to my mom. So, like, without her, like, she was like the launcher pack into this. That kind of prepared me mentally. And then, of course, me having the legends in my corner, having a Snoop, having a Treve Dupree and just, you know, even a Nelly, you know, I mean, who I consider like a. A big brother, these are. That's gonna pull up and fight me if I'm out of control, if I'm on the Internet. Wilder. That's why I think I've been on his best behavior this past couple of years, because I. I understand what it is, and I understand my brand. I understand who I am. And. And it take real big homies to come to you, man, and then bring your ass down here one time and let you know what you've been up on. And, you know, I got a lot of people that love it outside the game. They inside the game, and they don't want. They gonna let me. They ain't gonna let me fall ever.
Bow Wow
So, yeah, I'm sure I gotta tell them. I have. Me and you had a. A fun moment one day. Course, like, that's Paul. It was great. But we was out one night in Houston. It was me.
Jeff Teague
You.
Bow Wow
I was playing with Boston. We was in Houston. It was Covid time, Nick.
Earl Watson
I know it.
Jeff Teague
Oh, I know. Two minutes until.
Earl Watson
When the man tried.
Jeff Teague
To kick me out.
Bow Wow
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we had a good time. And I was like, this is what I kn. Like, I was like, yo, he a different famous. So, you know, I'm playing on the Celtics. It's jt, jb, all them. Yeah, yeah.
Earl Watson
He was at camp.
Bow Wow
Yeah. And I said, damn. He walked through, and no offense, but, like, 50 girls ran behind him. I said, yeah, he a different famous.
Earl Watson
Like, they roll. They roll with us.
Bow Wow
See? Oh, my fault. I didn't know. You brought him to the point. I see them running behind you. And I looked at Jason. I was like, you got a lot of money, but you don't got that. And he was like, I'm about to go get that. I got to shake that head.
Earl Watson
Well, my mama. JT came over to the Sex. Y' all didn't y' all. He pulled up.
Jeff Teague
Pulled up.
Bow Wow
I.
Earl Watson
With jt, man, that's my dog, man. Like, that's. That's family, even. You just breaking that up, man. And I wish my boy in speedy recovery, too.
Jeff Teague
I told him.
Earl Watson
I told him, I'm gonna go over the big time, go with him and check on him while he down. But, yeah, that's my dog, man. And, dude, I was. That was a. That, matter of fact, was crazy. That was me and Soulja Boy after Party to the Millennium Tour. That was one of the craziest nights at Camp Houston, for sure. That was crazy. It was going up.
Bow Wow
I wasn't there for long.
Earl Watson
That's right.
Bow Wow
You left peace somewhere out here.
Jeff Teague
Get your ass on somewhere. He got up out of there early. I want to ask you, bro, how did the Millennium Tour start, bro? Who originated that?
Earl Watson
Yeah, it originated. I'm gonna be Real Garrett. You know, I mean, it all started with Gary. That's. To promote him. The bpc. You know, Gary, they. They came up with this concept to, you know, bring back that vibe again, you know? I mean, the screen sort of started with me, you know, I mean, that's. That's my. A st. That stamp a staple. And that was the first and pretty much the Millennium Tour was kind of like the spin off from that, you know what I mean? And the first one was 2019 with B2K. And I felt that, you know, it wasn't my time to do it yet. I felt that the fans and me understanding our audience, that the B2K reunion was their time, and it had to happen for them. And it was. I didn't want to take away from the moment. The moment was too big, and I set it out, and I just watched every artist from that. From our time just get the tweet. And it was so pissed like, man, why the fuck y' all ain't call me? Why the fuck I'm like, nigga, y' all ain't bigger than B2K. Nigga, the girls want to see motherfucking B2K. These niggas only come outside of me 25 years together. So if they can catch them one time, they gonna catch them. And then I came out. Auroriana had brought me out as a special guest, went crazy. And that's when Barry was up. They gotta call the dog. Gotta call the dog. Ain't no way you doing anything Millennial without a meal or Chris Brown involved in that. It's just. It ain't gonna work like that.
Jeff Teague
That's a. Huh?
Earl Watson
You know what I mean?
Jeff Teague
Like, I want Darius talk a little shit.
Earl Watson
True. We sold the bows from Marmalennu. We got the most hits out of the Millennial is us too. And I knew the call was gonna come. And when it came, I took the opportunity. Then Mario came back, and he co headlined with me. And then Gary, like, we got running back again. I'm like, damn, we going three times in a row. Yeah, we going again. And that was with me, Trey, Omarion Rose, and everybody else. And how this one came about was, you know, I put the call in the trigger. I called trigger myself. Cause Trey wasn't picking the phone for niggas. He was not picking up the phone. He was not entertained in the tour at all. And Gary was like, yo, I need you to put your fittest hat on. And I need you to put this call in.
Jeff Teague
I put the call in.
Earl Watson
I said, yo, Trey, I need you to headline. He's a headline.
Jeff Teague
Oh, nigga.
Earl Watson
Oh, nigga, you headline this.
Bow Wow
This your.
Earl Watson
I said, nah, nigga, I'm on some other type of shit right now. I'm like, I need you to do this. You know, I don't got time for the ego shit. That's why I fuck with Trina. You know what I mean? Just put some positive touches on my nigga. Nigga solid came on the tour, did.
Jeff Teague
His thing, rocked out.
Earl Watson
One of the best touring partners I think I ever had in my career. Understands what would it take and all we can be able to do to stick in.
Jeff Teague
Need to run it back. I can't bring B2K back. They too far.
Earl Watson
Nah, nah, we got some shit cooking on the works. I can't really speak on it too much, but it's something big going down in December. As of now, something real big on down pause.
Bow Wow
Hey, don't listen to this.
Jeff Teague
That Boy, what's that nigga's name over there?
Bow Wow
I don't know. Nope.
Earl Watson
There you go.
Bow Wow
There you go. There you go.
Earl Watson
There you go.
Jeff Teague
Nigga Raspy, how the pocket.
Earl Watson
There you go.
Jeff Teague
He ain't ready for no touring, man.
Earl Watson
Hey, look, believe it or not, though, while ears just shooting this, that low key is like the very smart when it come to defending stuff.
Jeff Teague
Like. Oh, for sure.
Earl Watson
He the. That's in the office with gearing them putting that together, though. So I, I. I gotta give it to. I give it to Raz on that point.
Jeff Teague
N. Let me have that. That's cool. You got to clean this up.
Bow Wow
Man. Y' all don't watch these two that blowing the night, man.
Earl Watson
It's a wild backcore. That's right.
Bow Wow
So now, speaking of your family, you got an address for your cousin? Put smut on Bow wow name, man. Your cousin Orlando. That's my cousin.
Jeff Teague
For real.
Bow Wow
That's a real blood cousin.
Jeff Teague
That's his real blood cousin.
Bow Wow
That's my son. So he be tripping sometime.
Jeff Teague
Words, nigga.
Bow Wow
That's some cousin.
Jeff Teague
God. He said he was hit, and I.
Bow Wow
Think it was geeking. Hey, listen, man, He. He. He be wild trying to go wild. That's my c. Excuse. Hey, excuse my family.
Earl Watson
N. He good, man. He good, man.
Bow Wow
He thanks for life.
Jeff Teague
No, no. Bow wow need his fade with Orlando.
Bow Wow
I'm trying to save you from that. I know his bro. If y' all see my cousin out friend, you big as he your friend don't beat his ass.
Jeff Teague
N. He.
Earl Watson
He. He good, man.
Bow Wow
Okay.
Earl Watson
Ain't nobody.
Bow Wow
Yeah, he between.
Earl Watson
He ain't affected.
Jeff Teague
I know.
Bow Wow
Yeah, he told me he was gonna.
Jeff Teague
Beat me up one day.
Bow Wow
I said, what the he.
Jeff Teague
That Orlando reality. They all my.
Bow Wow
Hey, chill. You gotta be his ass, his family, bro.
Earl Watson
I ain't gonna lie right the first time I said, man, I want to. Man, I want to get in with me. I swear to God. Like, I was hot at first, and then I'm like, what am I gaining out of this?
Bow Wow
It's like he be tweaking, bro. Don't worry about it.
Earl Watson
No, but I'm like, what am I gonna gain out of nothing? Like, it's like he gonna sue me. Like, I ain't getting nothing out of that. Then I feel like the people like this. But you know that crazy about you get no points off that, right? So it's like a lose lose either way it goes. So I said some shit you just gotta let let slide. But that keep playing it.
Jeff Teague
I'm apologizing playing cha.
Bow Wow
You need my lodger. I'mma call him tonight, man.
Jeff Teague
I fuck with man n he really go.
Bow Wow
He really going to beat my up.
Earl Watson
It's like, I'm with it. All right. He say one more thing. I'm letting you slide.
Jeff Teague
I'm letting it slide.
Bow Wow
I'mma call him tonight, man.
Jeff Teague
Letting his own say one more thing.
Bow Wow
You seen it. Grab the mic with funny mar the tweak it.
Earl Watson
Man, that be tripping. But you know what? In all honesty, though, the. The really talented overnight. I said it's racist. You know what I'm saying? Like, the nigga's really funny. Like, I just feel like if somebody really got a real opportunity and put him in a situation, a real active situation, that he'll show a real movie role. I don't give a fight, just anything. You know what I'm saying? I always said that. Cause the naturally funny, though. He's naturally funny. I give it to you.
Bow Wow
Get my together, man. He already thought your cousin. Yeah, you you talking. But we getting together. Oh, my God.
Earl Watson
Second cousin, though.
Bow Wow
Through marriage, though.
Jeff Teague
Let's keep it real. Oh, so it don't count?
Bow Wow
No, no, it's through marriage.
Jeff Teague
Okay.
Bow Wow
Go ahead.
Jeff Teague
Y' all out of pocket for bringing that up. What's. Oh, you know this. No. I want to talk to you about hooping, though, bro.
Earl Watson
On the door.
Jeff Teague
Like, did you play coming up. Was that one of your things? Was you? Yeah.
Earl Watson
Sports was first. Yeah, sports was first. You know, I mean, just growing up in Columbus, you know, we got the Gus Smacker out there. I know y' all know I'm playing the Gusmar a couple times growing up. From there, we got smack. We got smacked up. We was terrible. And I was famous, too. That's like first album about when I went back to the city. Got in that. We got in like air so hot as. You know how that be. It's like a filling corks. They give you a map. You gotta try to locate your court. Like, it was just too much. But growing up for sure, like basketball was my everything. Like, I honestly felt like, damn, I. I had a chance. So I said, damn, my is almost grown. And I just stopped and wrong.
Bow Wow
It's just.
Earl Watson
It's just not gonna happen to me. And then I watched. I saw Cherry Maguire. And I said, I know I can't play the game I could play, but I said, I know I finally can't play physically, but I want to be a part of the gang somehow. You know what I mean? And I said, damn it, I want to be a sports angel for sure.
Jeff Teague
Who was one of the coldest entertainers you seen. Hooped up what? Right?
Bow Wow
Prince.
Earl Watson
Hey, and I know y' all probably heard stories. I hate to keep. Oh, one time, I hate to keep bringing this nigga name up, but the first person, because I could save so many people and shit like this. Oh, yeah, well, we know he could play.
Jeff Teague
Nah, boys, That R. Kelly could play. He good at every. I don't care what. Hey, R. Kelly is the greatest for the shot. Robert. Robert did that. R. Kelly is a lady.
Earl Watson
Yo, let me tell you something about this. Hey, look, this is ladies. I know this gonna go everywhere, because I don't know if nobody even told the story. I remember one time. It's a funny ass, right? This. So this Chris, right?
Jeff Teague
This called me the Brown.
Earl Watson
Brown called me like, yo, bro, what you doing this weekend? I said, I got a studio session with R. Kelly. That Chris never met Kale. So he like, I'm free. I'm coming to Chicago to come with y' all. Then.
Jeff Teague
I want to meet him.
Earl Watson
Like, I'm like, cool. Come on, come down. We working on I'm a flirt. So the kills, it's probably like one in the morning. Like, we going to the gym.
Jeff Teague
We about to go play basketball right now. We about to go to the chat. We bleed. Go to the gym.
Earl Watson
It's probably two in the morning. I swear to God, I never seen play five on five, but it was like playing five on one. Because every time a got the rebound on kills, team is passing the kills. Pass the kills, passing the kills. Every time one of these get a rebound, you had to pass the ball to arc bar. Am I lying? You got to pass it to this. And I'm talking about this is walking up the court, shooting from half these niggas rebounding it. If he get it again, they kicking it back out the R. Kel, he sad.
Jeff Teague
I swear to God, like, no one shoot you.
Earl Watson
You. Oh, he said, I know exact.
Jeff Teague
Yep.
Earl Watson
He said, you kidding?
Jeff Teague
Listen, hold on, nigga.
Bow Wow
You was at the house.
Earl Watson
I'm talking about.
Bow Wow
You said, yo, we was at the pool.
Jeff Teague
What? Like, me and this.
Earl Watson
Me and this brazy. Me and this. Like, yo, nobody can shoot on this team but him. This nigga's incredible. But this. He. He wanted to talk and.
Jeff Teague
But.
Earl Watson
But be making this, though.
Jeff Teague
That's what's.
Bow Wow
Oh, he was hitting.
Jeff Teague
Oh, yeah.
Bow Wow
So he going crazy right now.
Jeff Teague
Yeah.
Earl Watson
And if he did miss.
Bow Wow
Nobody saying it like that. They play on your excuse this, man. They play off.
Jeff Teague
No, no, Funny, though, how is that.
Earl Watson
Working with him to the studio?
Jeff Teague
Because we don't get no R. Kelly.
Earl Watson
Stories at all, man. The are the musical chains, bro. Like, you know, shout out to little Ronnie. He the one who produced same girl he did I'm a flirt for us. And we, you know, I mean, when he did the record, it was at the house, and I was stuck. Like, again, like, sometimes as writers, as rappers, we get writers block. Like, we write so much that she'll start rewriting the same. Like, what the. So, right, I took a break. The Kels called. Like, like, what you feeling? I'm like, man, I know it's got to be for the ladies. Like, it's me and you. Like, it's got to be for the ladies. I got you. Give me. Give me like, 15 minutes call back and go, it's a boy. And I like, what? Like, he said, no, no, no, no, no. This it's a boy. It's a boy. I said what? He said, we got a head and they so vote me the press play on that. Boom. It was.
Jeff Teague
I'm a flirt. Damn.
Earl Watson
No cap. Like, in a 10 to 5 minutes, the bit, the hook set it back and the rest position.
Bow Wow
It's hard, bro.
Jeff Teague
Yeah.
Earl Watson
With a lot of people, bro. Yeah. Tons of people. Tons. Who the hardest worker that you just.
Jeff Teague
Seen in the studio.
Earl Watson
The hardest worker I've seen in the studio, or like, the hardest person to work with in the hardest worker period.
Bow Wow
Over this question. Actually.
Earl Watson
We don't want you feeling on nobody. I would probably say the that live in the studio. Jermaine Dupree, he lives in the studio. Wayne time I spent that cash money. Wayne is very reliable. You can rely on Wayne. When I was at Cash Money, his room is room A. I'm room C. If I'm working on some shit, I can go right out in the parking lot, walk right over to the other right at Hit Factory. Give it a tool. Hey, I need you on this one here. Go question it. He ain't gonna only gonna say, is this what you need me on? Say less he gonna find it. So I swear to God, that gonna walk that right back over to you in 10 minutes.
Jeff Teague
Damn.
Earl Watson
And it's gonna be probably one of the dopest verses you probably ever heard. At least one of them. Who else go crazy in the studio?
Jeff Teague
What about Chris?
Earl Watson
Me and Brown kind of work the same. Like, we gotta have some partying going on. Like, you know it ain't just y' all like him? Yeah, like, oh, like. Like our is different. Like. Like, Wayne ain't. Wayne ain't partying in the studio.
Jeff Teague
Yo, hold on, Bell. I don't want to up this story. Go ahead and say what you was trying to say.
Bow Wow
Promote the Hendrick Experience.
Earl Watson
Well, say that first, you know what I'm saying?
Jeff Teague
Like, this is Chris Brown, and I ain't no telling what these is doing. You talking about this like him?
Bow Wow
I don't want to know. I just seen some reports the other day.
Jeff Teague
Man, shut up.
Earl Watson
This thing here, man.
Jeff Teague
What's the vibes, though? So y' all got ladies in there?
Earl Watson
Yeah, it's just. I think for any artist that's a part of the lifestyle that really live the culture that really live and eat and breathe this, that we do, from the nightlife experience to being on stage and just really inherited what come with this type of. This energy. Me, Chris and. And, you know, a drizzy and certain that got that fan base, you know, like. Oh, no, them got motion. Like just straight motion. In our studio sessions reflect that. It's hard for me to make a female having club record without. With just being my engineer in there. Like, we can't do this. And the women be letting me know, and they gotta let me know just by them vibing and the drinks going around and they repeating certain shit. I'm like, oh, yeah, we got us one look at all. Look at all 20 of them. Every 20. Look at all 20 of them. Look at they dancing and hookah going and shit. They fucking with this.
Bow Wow
Well, hold on. The Hendrick Experience. Don't be like that. It be all four, so. All four.
Jeff Teague
I swear to God. Don't worry, we'll talk after this. You. But you. You got to have them.
Earl Watson
You got to have them vibes, man. So, you know, that's. That's just me. I can't, you know, certain records. Yeah, I don't want nobody in the st with, but I'm about to get it cracking and make some popping. Like a. Use me to track me a Brown guy. Yeah, yeah, It's. It's hookah going on. There's definitely some shots going on. And it's just a five, like, which is five and zero for sure.
Jeff Teague
So definitely appreciate you. For real.
Earl Watson
Hell yee.
Jeff Teague
Yes.
Bow Wow
Most definitely. One time, make some noise with Bow Wow pulling up to the city one side.
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Bow Wow
Huh?
Earl Watson
Come on, man. We outside tonight, right?
Bow Wow
We outside now.
Jeff Teague
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Earl Watson
Be here.
Jeff Teague
We at Moon and Hobie, though.
Earl Watson
Are you coming out tonight?
Bow Wow
Your whole ass ain't crazy on camera. Where she at? I think so.
Jeff Teague
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Bow Wow
And me that ain't good.
Earl Watson
That ain't good we said you had 24 nah but that's me though that ain't you just there you got a.
Bow Wow
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Earl Watson
Do this.
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Jeff Teague
Matchup? John Stockton, by far. He was just a little bit more crafty. Everybody thought he was dirty, but we was just stupid. We just didn't know how to play him. It took me six years to figure him out. And then when I figured him out, when we beat him in the Western Conference finals, I figured him out. I figured out I can't keep doing the same thing I do with him and try to overmatch him. I gotta play the same way he played and I gotta just. Every time I pound him, he'll fall and take a charge. Then I start saying no. I know he gonna hit. He gonna think I'm gonna hit him twice, but I'm gonna hit him one time and I'm gonna step off and then shoot the jumper in his face and do everything and then face him up and go around him. He couldn't deal with me that day. And then when I figured him out, it was a little bit different. And then, you know, like everybody know today I idolize him a lot, you know what I'm saying? He's like one of my best friends and, you know, and it was just. I really love playing against players like that, you know what I'm saying? Because it got me more of an IQ of the game. And John Stockton, Tim Hardaway, Kevin Johnson, Rod Strickland, Mookie Blaylock, people like that. I wanted to play against, man, you know what I'm saying? Because they gave me more game and made me more of a better basketball player. Nah, for sure, for sure.
Bow Wow
We gotta talk about Oakland, like we said.
Jeff Teague
Yeah, the Big Leo, you know what I'm saying?
Bow Wow
It's a lot of talented point guards come out of Oakland. Obviously y' all had a conversation recently on another podcast and y' all was talking about top guards in Oakland. And we brung up Dame, Lillard, Jason Kidd, and you. And I went with Dame. That's my. That's my class. That's guys I grew up playing against. I think Simba said Simba.
Jeff Teague
Simba might have.
Bow Wow
He said J, kid.
Jeff Teague
He said Simba said J, kid. He said jk.
Bow Wow
Yeah, everybody else says you, right? And I seen what you said. Your response, I'd love for you to elaborate a Little more on your response.
Jeff Teague
It made sense to me. I get it. Cause he the OG and the shit. Nah.
Bow Wow
But will you really start? Because obviously Dane, my guy, you know, Dame, that's our guy. But when you start breaking down like, hold on, I averaged 20 points and S1M over there said like you did.
Jeff Teague
Yeah. Cause people forget how you score, bro. What? You said people forgot how I score. People think about my defense. Y' all gotta understand, man, I was scoring, like, for eight straight years, I was scoring over 20 points a game. You feel what I'm saying? And then I was getting down, locking down people and then averaging eight assists and three steals. Gotta understand that that's the way the game goes. And people don't understand. I scor scored over, like 21,000 points. People forget that. They overlooked that. But what I say is about my two youngsters, right? Jay, I raised him. You know what I'm saying? Y' all gotta understand. Jay didn't start scoring until the end of his years of his career. Right? So if we break it down, Jay is a better passer than me. Yeah. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah. Defender. He's not. You know what I'm saying? Score. He's not. But he's a great IQ guy. You know what I'm saying? Dame is my youngster. You know what I'm saying? We can't put Dame in that situation right now because he's not fulfilled all his things that he's done. But he's made his mark on the NBA as shooting and scoring and stuff. Dame is a little bit different to point guard than us, you know what I'm saying? Because his era came a little different. It's about scoring here now. It's not about passing the ball, getting other people into the game. Jason was a better rebounder than both of us. You feel what saying? Yeah, so it's a little bit different than what we do. Damed and steal the ball. Like, we stole the ball. So it's. It's a little different than what we're talking about. Eras. Yeah. It's an era thing. I get it. Everybody has their opinion about a lot of stuff, but I just say where they from? From Oakland. You see what I'm saying? And we breathe, we breed that. And that's just the way we're different. I'm the og, you know what I'm saying? So we. We did a little different. You guys didn't watch me as much, but you know who I am, you know what I'm saying? Y' all didn't watch me as much.
Bow Wow
No, we watch.
Jeff Teague
It'll be like that. But it was like, you talking about overall ERA is like you said.
Bow Wow
I feel like that because I played.
Jeff Teague
I played against pride, and I understand that. I always tell people it's about an era, what y' all did. That's why I don't like people to ask me about a goat, because a goat ain't gonna work for me, because y' all didn't play the same time as each other. So I can't tell you about a goat. You know what I'm saying? All of us was good. You feel what I'm saying? So you just think about stats. That's why people go with a goat. They think about stats. They say, oh, he won this many, he won that many. But did he play against him? Did he get down at him like that? No, they didn't. Then to me, Plague is Larry Bird, one of the coldest little motherfuckers I ever seen.
Bow Wow
Come on, Indiana Spiners, baby.
Jeff Teague
What you talking about? You know what I'm saying? So I'm just saying, man, you know, we didn't play against Wilt Chamberlain and Kareem Abdul Jabbar, who couldn't stop Scott Hook and Will Chamber, everybody breaking Will Chamberlain's records.
Bow Wow
Yeah.
Jeff Teague
Feel me? Yeah, they breaking all his records. And they talk about, well, he was in the 60s or whatever. Well, he was 22, 21. Still was the same, you know what I'm saying? So we don't do goats here, man. I don't. You know what I'm saying? I don't do goats. So. But the point guard thing in Oakland, them three was pretty. We were. Us three was pretty damn good.
Bow Wow
Some of the best point guards that ever played basketball.
Jeff Teague
And we. And two of us is in hall of fame and top 75. Dame is already on top 75. He's going to be in the hall of Fame. We're doing a thing, you know, Dame might be. He might score more points than both of us. But it is what it is, you know what I'm saying? And I think when they go to New York and say that stuff about the point guards, you know, we got the point guards over here and in the Bay and Ms. West.
Bow Wow
I don't think it's another. I don't. It's a trio like that. LA LA got some point guards, but to all top 75, Baron Davis, but I'm saying they all top 30.
Jeff Teague
The two made the top 75. BD is my youngster. He nice which if he wouldn't have got hurt, that's a fire truck, you know what I'm saying? But if we'd all three. If we'd have played them three, it would have been a battle. Yes. Now, but y' all gotta understand, though, Paul Pierce is from Oakland, California, too. He was born in Oakland, California. He moved to la.
Bow Wow
Okay, so we got another topic.
Jeff Teague
Yeah, Paul.
Bow Wow
Yeah, Paul. What's that?
Jeff Teague
Tripping Paul. You know what I'm saying? Paul Pierce and grew up around. Around the corner from me. I grew up with his brother. Now, he only. He moved from Oakland when he was 11.
Bow Wow
Thank you. I can't wait to talk to Paul now.
Jeff Teague
Yeah, I tell him he ain't no.
Bow Wow
He don't.
Jeff Teague
Like, he ain't no LA boy. He grew up. He was born and open and left when he was 11. So let, let, Let me, Let me break it down, y' all. That's where the game go. You feel what I'm saying? So. Yeah, so. So we got a lot of top 70 fives and hall of Famers, you know what I'm saying? So you was the OG who like, showed you the way coming up in Oakland, like, who put the ball in your hands? My daddy. Really, man. For real, you guys? My daddy coached everybody. We talking about everybody. Every one of these guys we talking about. My daddy coached and touched hands on him. So they brought me into that. I really. I really idolized George Gervin, who is my stepdad now, like my step pops to now. But as coming up in the hood in Oakland, my daddy was the one who put hands on me and touched me, you know, and he touched a lot of me. Coach J, you know, Dame came a little too later because he was in a later era, but he played against my daddy and my daddy's teens and stuff like that, but that was it, you know, you got to understand, we had B. Shaw, we had Antonio Davis, we had Greg Falls, we had all them. Cliff Robinson had a lot of players. Y' all forgot. Bill Russell was from Oakland. Paul Silas is from Oakland.
Bow Wow
Rp.
Jeff Teague
We didn't have a lot of basketball players that did it, you know what I'm saying?
Bow Wow
You know, the dope part about that is that's kind of like how his pops is. Yeah, Coach T in the city, bro. Everybody.
Jeff Teague
Yeah, I heard about his dad a lot, man. He reminds me of my dad a lot. Your dad reminds me of my dad a lot.
Bow Wow
Coach everybody, man.
Jeff Teague
Literally trample the nigga or something. And my daddy did the same thing. So my. But you know, it wasn't just about basketball. My pops. My pops used to go around the schools and you see dudes shooting dice over there. They used to say, oh, go. There go my daddy. There go Mr. Peyton's white, white Escalade. Whatever.
Earl Watson
Whatever, man.
Jeff Teague
Let's jump over the fence and get.
Bow Wow
Up out of here, man.
Jeff Teague
Cause he gonna get at us, you know what I'm saying? My daddy put life in a lot of people, man. He taught them how to cook, he taught them how to do other things. And that's what I thought about why I went into coaching now. Yeah. Why I coach the young guys now. Because I want to make them men. Everybody ain't gonna make it in basketball or profession. They gotta understand that their life is more morning sports. Their life is everything. Because they're gonna be a parent at one time too. And you gotta raise somebody. And that's. I always tell them. And that's what I. That's why I got into coaching, because I want to tell them that and understand that you can't always be who you want to be, but you can be who you want to be in a different world, in a different aspect, you know, so you could be a lawyer, doctor or whatever and make an impact on anybody's life. And we got to understand that. Yeah.
Bow Wow
And that's what show fatigue as well. Big him up. He coaches our alma mater, you know what I'm saying? So the impact you have on them kids, not even from a basketball standpoint, just to show like, hey, you can be something in life or you can move like, you can have these morals and be successful in other avenues is very important. Because we don't got that much representation in our community.
Jeff Teague
Absolutely. And that's what we got to always be big on. When my daddy gave it to me, I think God told him to pass it on to me and keep it going, you know what I'm saying? Because we got to catch these young kids, because this mental health stuff is really killing us right now. They don't know how to respond to people and say, yo, I know you helping me. Let me let you help me. Let me tell you about my situation. Because I can get a lot of these kids out of these situations and get them into some help program programs and do the things that they have to do, but you have to give them some support.
Bow Wow
Yeah.
Jeff Teague
Because none of them really grew up like that. They only grew up with a mama. Me and Jeff grew up with a daddy. Yeah. See, our daddy was. Was a big part in life. Most people didn't grow up with the pops like that. So you gotta understand that. And most of my guys who I deal with didn't grow up with daddies like that. They grew up with mamas where they can go on the streets and do whatever they wanted to do any time in their life. And my daddy was there to take, take responsibilities for them. So we have to understand that. So we gotta give them that support. Gotta give it to em. That's a fact.
Bow Wow
Definitely.
Jeff Teague
I definitely want to ask you too, Sean Kent from our state. He's Indiana, you know what I mean? Alcourt, Indiana.
Bow Wow
Indiana.
Jeff Teague
Alcort, Indiana. That's where he from. Nah, for sure, you know, I know all of us want to ask you, man, how was that playing with him? Man, like, that was crazy.
Bow Wow
That was a crazy duo on NBA Jam.
Jeff Teague
What iconic NBA jams turned us out. Real shit.
Bow Wow
Real shit.
Jeff Teague
Hey, listen, man, let me tell y' all about that. Everybody talk about this. Lob City. No disrespect to CP and them and all that, man. We was the first ones with Lob City. Me and Sean was the first ones to get it like that, you know what I'm saying? Playing with him for seven years was amazing. Me and him are partners now in the cannabis business and all that stuff now. I see Shawn on a regular basis, man. And playing with him and becoming a friend with him is more important than that. That's how a chemistry comes together and that's how we did it. And people just don't understand, I think, and I always tell Sean this, I said, if we wouldn't have got our ego messed up and his ego messed up, if he would have stayed with me more years, he'd be a Hall of Fame by now, you know what I'm saying? Because we'd have made a bigger dynasty than what we did. We were one of the two, one of the greatest duos to ever play with each other. And what I think, and I'm trying to get him in the hall of Fame now for what he, what he's done with me, you know what I'm saying? So I just think I had a blessing to play with a person with that much talent because I can just throw the ball up to him and he will go get it anywhere. But people don't understand how good he was with the basketball and shooting in the midst, in the mid, in the mid range game and his back to the basket, he was a beast, you know what I'm saying? And so people didn't really understand that about how Much freak ability he had. Yeah, man. You feel what I'm saying? He had a freak ability that nobody really, really knew that he had. But if you see it every time y' all watch our highlights with all our gangs, he. He did some stuff that was so incredible to me, man. I used to be like, wow, you know, I'm playing with this guy, this dude.
Bow Wow
I used to see them lives you doing.
Jeff Teague
Yeah, Yeah. I usually. He used to always tell me. He used to always tell me, man, give me a challenge today, man. Throw that. Throw it somewhere where I don't. You don't think I'm gonna go get it and I'll just throw it up there and he'll go get it. Was that instant chemistry, though. It was with him. It was. What happened was in 89, I was in college, and he was just coming out, right? And Sonny's drafted him, and they wanted a point guard. And then Bernie Bickerstaff seen me, and he said, I think this is the kid that we gonna get. So he started telling Sean to watch me, and Sean started watching me. When I was in college, they hit me every now and then, and then they. They didn't have a chance to get me at all. You know what I'm saying? And then all of a sudden, they fooled around and didn't make the playoffs and then got in the lottery. And their balls was a chance of. Well, Dallas was this year to get the Cooper flags. Oh, their chances were 12% to get the number two pick or the number one pick. And they fooled around and got the number two pick. Wow.
Bow Wow
Oh, so you had a script. Okay.
Jeff Teague
And I knew I wasn't going to go no lower than one or two. And New Jersey wanted me, but they wanted a point guard and a big man. And Derrick Coleman was coming out, and then Kenny Anderson was gonna come out next year. So I went and told him, don't draft me. You can get Kenny the next year. So I wanted to go to Seattle. So they drafted Derrick Coleman, and then I went number two to Seattle. So he was a part of the bullshit earlier.
Bow Wow
That ain't real, bro. Ain't no way. Dallas. Get that pig.
Jeff Teague
It happens, man. Hey, man, they. They crucified my boy Nico, man. Yeah, man, because he. He traded Luca, man. But then all of a sudden, the bad luck went even worse when they made all the mamas, got all them injuries, and then all of a sudden, big bang, bang, bingo long. I went into one of the old crazy liquor stones, man, and paid $10 and got a lottery and What I do, I hit. I hit for that billion, feel me? And got the boy. And got that boy. Boy.
Bow Wow
Man, I listen. That's one of my favorite NBA moments, man, that when they show that draft room, say yes. I'm like, they cheated, man. Ain't no way it's supposed to happen, bro. There's no way. Ain't no way it's supposed to happen.
Jeff Teague
Bingo is. I knew he was going to a whack team, a team that was going to be losing. And all of a sudden I said, man, you hit the lottery. You at the lottery and hit the lottery, then those teams are at the bottom of the lottery. No, he. Their chances were zero. Oh, yeah, I know. But no facts. Do you understand. It was at 0.8 for Dallas to get that pick. You understand me?
Bow Wow
They went to the finals last year.
Jeff Teague
That wasn't supposed to. They was in the finals. They lost to Boston. You feel what I'm saying? So poor Utah J. It is what it. You know what I feel for my boy J. Kidd as a head coach. Love it. And then I feel for Nico, man. Nico was my rep at Nike. That's like a little brother to me, man. He always looked up to me like that. So I feel for him because what he took, you know what I'm saying? People don't understand. He's the president, general manager. He can't make them calls on his own. Our owner has to make that call. He can't just say, I'll make the call. Cause he's going to get it. He's going to get. So all you fans out there messing at him like that. Get up out of here with that. It wasn't his call, man, to make that decision. He made a decision on what he was told to do or what it was supposed to be done. And that's what they did. So I'm happy for him. What's going to happen? You get Kyrie back after this injury, man, which he'll probably come back in January or something like that. And they'll be rolling. They'll make a thing ad come back what it is. Get all the guys get healthy. Because if they whole team get healthy and they got. It's gonna be a beast. Yeah, Dallas gonna be a beast.
Bow Wow
Speaking of the finals, we all watched the Last Dance. I want to ask you on this show, how did it feel knowing you going to the finals against Michael Jordan in 96?
Jeff Teague
That was great, man. You remember I got on. I got on cover of Sports illustrating saying Mission Impossible. I had just won the Defensive player of the year, first point guard to ever do it. And it was just something, well, people didn't know. I got hurt. I tore my calf muscle, and I really couldn't move. What I did was I went in there and they found a solution. They found a little miracle thing to do. It got my leg better. I wrapped it up a little bit, and then all of a sudden, it's a miracle, you know what I'm saying? So then I started playing, and I started feeling better and better and better. Then we got down too much, and then I just started saying, let me guard each other. And he was averaging 33 at the time. And then I started making it a pest for him. I started making it a pest for him, and then I broke it down to 23. And then what coaches do, they knew I started becoming a problem, so they had to make to solve the problem. What do you do? You solve the problem. So Jordan was taking it personal with me, which I wanted to happen. And then, you know, Phil Jackson said, nah, let me put somebody bigger on him and distract him and make it a problem for him. And he put Pippen on me. And Pippen is a bigger player than me. He was six, seven. He could be. He was mobile. And it was taking a toll on me, took a real toll on me to try to score and guard Jordan at the same time, and it took.
Bow Wow
A toll on me.
Jeff Teague
And then by the time the sixth game came, we had broke it down to 3, 2. That six game came on, I got a little fatigue, you know what I'm saying? And they took us out, you know what I'm saying? It is what it is. It just took us out of the.
Bow Wow
Game, but it was just good bumps, like who fans to see that. That's a hell of a matchup, like to hold your own against one of the players that we called to go. Like you said, in that situation, that just gotta be dope for you. In that moment, it's like, I'm here.
Jeff Teague
You know what? It was easy for me because of my mindset. I thought it was always. I wanted to play against him all the time. You remember they were 72 and 10. Yeah, we were 64 and 18. Y' all forgot that we were the number two team in the league at the time. And we beat him one. We beat him out of that one. 10 out of that 10. So it was like, I just wanted the competition, man. I just wanted to play the best, you know what I'm saying? I don't stray away from nobody, man. When I played, my daddy always told me, man, if your leg ain't broken, it ain't off. Get on the floor and get it. And that's what I did. I just went and got it. And he was always the one to take the competitive to me. I loved it.
Bow Wow
Yeah, well, how did you respond when you see him laugh like, I know you a competitor, you probably was laughing, too.
Jeff Teague
I laughed right back. I said, it is. I wouldn't even. Jeff. I wouldn't even respected him if he didn't say that. I wouldn't even respected him to say anything like that unless. Cause it's his documentary. Of course. I don't care, man. We all knew what the game was and how it was. Whoever, whatever is good. We knew what it was.
Bow Wow
Nah, most definitely. Listen, man, OG we are honored, man. We appreciate you pulling up on us, man. It's been a pleasure. Listen, man, we can't wait. You got some things in the works, man. We can't wait to see if that happens, man. We ain't gonna say too much, you know what I'm saying?
Jeff Teague
Yes, sir. You know I got it all. Getting it, man. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna get it, man. Anytime y' all want me on this 5:20 club, I'm with y' all, man. Do a club 5:20, man. Y' all doing a great job. I told y' all, y' all to the fullest, man. This is what I want to see. And. And young guys like y' all, man, get it, man. Do what y' all want to do, man. And they're always, man, set a mark for yourself, man. Always when you leave. So especially with you, Jeff. You play in the league. Do your thing, man. Keep doing this with your boys. Hook it up, man. Do it anytime y' all need me.
Earl Watson
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Bow Wow
Club 520. We out. I appreciate it.
Jeff Teague
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Chose to vaccinate her daughter Right after.
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My daughter was born, my husband and I are having to decide whether or not to get her vaccinated. I definitely felt like the pros far outweighed the cons. The diseases that I am protecting my child against. They're still here.
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Club Shay Shay: BEST OF 520 – Gary Payton on Michael Jordan, Nico Harrison + Bow Wow Tells CRAZY R. Kelly Story
Released on May 24, 2025
In this electrifying episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe hosts an engaging conversation featuring rapper Bow Wow, former NBA players Jeff Teague and Earl Watson. The trio delves into a myriad of topics ranging from their basketball careers and personal growth to behind-the-scenes stories in the music industry. This summary captures the essence of their discussions, highlighting key insights, memorable quotes, and fascinating anecdotes.
[02:24 – 05:29]
Bow Wow initiates the conversation by exploring the challenges of growing up in Hollywood. He emphasizes the importance of staying true to oneself amidst the pressures of fame.
Earl Watson credits his mother for grounding him, highlighting the critical role of family support in maintaining personal identity.
[05:26 – 08:27]
The discussion shifts to The Millennium Tour, a nostalgic revival aimed at bringing back the vibe of past musical eras. Earl Watson shares the inception of the tour, crediting Gary and Auroriana for their pivotal roles.
Bow Wow reminisces about memorable nights on tour, highlighting interactions with celebrities like Soulja Boy and Chris Brown.
[13:30 – 20:45]
A standout moment in the episode is Bow Wow’s recounting of a wild studio session involving R. Kelly. He narrates an unexpected basketball game where R. Kelly dominated the court, showcasing his unpredictable nature.
Jeff Teague adds humor to the story, illustrating the chaotic yet memorable experience.
The trio reflects on the impact of such experiences on their careers and personal lives, emphasizing the blend of fun and professionalism in the studio environment.
[12:04 – 36:34]
The conversation delves deep into the role of family, particularly fathers, in shaping their professional journeys. Jeff Teague shares heartfelt stories about his father’s influence, highlighting his commitment to coaching and mentoring young athletes.
Bow Wow echoes similar sentiments, stressing the importance of moral guidance and representation in the community.
[25:03 – 32:05]
Jeff Teague passionately discusses the rich history of point guards from Oakland, including legends like Jason Kidd and the contemporary prowess of Damian Lillard. He underscores the significance of their contributions to basketball and their enduring legacies.
The dialogue touches on the evolution of the game across different eras, with Teague advocating for recognizing the unique talents of each generation without placing them in a competitive hierarchy.
[42:55 – 46:51]
One of the episode's highlights is Jeff Teague's recounting of a monumental game against Michael Jordan during the 1996 NBA Finals. He shares his strategy and the physical and mental toll of guarding one of basketball's greatest players.
Despite the challenges, Teague expresses immense respect for Jordan's competitive spirit and the invaluable experience gained from such high-stakes matchups.
Bow Wow lauds the intense competition and the mutual respect between the players.
[46:16 – 47:49]
As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on their ongoing projects and express excitement for future collaborations. Jeff Teague hints at upcoming initiatives and remains enthusiastic about contributing to the community and the sport.
Authenticity Amidst Fame: The guests emphasize the importance of staying true to oneself despite the pressures of fame and public scrutiny.
Legacy and Influence: Family, particularly parental guidance, plays a crucial role in shaping personal and professional lives.
Evolution of Basketball: A deep appreciation for the rich history of point guards from Oakland and the unique challenges posed by different basketball eras.
Memorable Anecdotes: Engaging stories from studio sessions to intense basketball matches highlight the multifaceted lives of the guests.
This episode of Club Shay Shay offers a compelling blend of basketball lore, personal growth narratives, and captivating behind-the-scenes stories from the music industry. Through candid conversations and shared experiences, Bow Wow, Jeff Teague, and Earl Watson provide listeners with a deeper understanding of their journeys, the impact of mentorship, and the enduring spirit of competition that defines their careers.
Whether you're a basketball enthusiast, a music fan, or someone interested in personal development, this episode delivers rich, engaging content that resonates on multiple levels.