BEST OF 520: Jeff Teague on LeBron James NBA future, Baron Davis vs. Steve Francis, Brunson vs. Melo

Summary

Club Shay Shay: BEST OF 520
Featuring Jeff Teague on LeBron James' NBA Future, Baron Davis vs. Steve Francis, Brunson vs. Melo
Release Date: May 19, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe | Guests: Jeff Teague and others

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Introduction

In this energizing episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe engages with former NBA player Jeff Teague to delve deep into the current and future landscape of the NBA. The conversation navigates through LeBron James' potential future moves, legendary player comparisons, and dynamic matchups that have captivated fans.

LeBron James' NBA Future

Jeff Teague provides insightful analysis on LeBron James' trajectory in the league. With LeBron's enduring dominance and influence, Teague speculates on his possible next steps and how they might shape the future of the NBA.

• Teague on LeBron's Longevity:
  "LeBron has always been a trailblazer. At this point in his career, it’s not just about where he plays, but how he continues to impact the game off the court as well."
  [Timestamp: 05:24]

Baron Davis vs. Steve Francis

A heated debate ensues as Sharpe and Teague compare the illustrious careers of Baron Davis and Steve Francis, two electrifying point guards who left indelible marks on the NBA.

• Sharpe on Steve Francis' Athleticism:
  "Steve Francis was just relentless on the court. His athleticism was something else—he tore his ACL and came back stronger. That's the kind of resilience you don't see every day."
  [Timestamp: 02:29]

• Teague's Take on Baron Davis:
  "Baron Davis, on the other hand, maintained a high level of play longer. He wasn't just explosive; he was consistently effective throughout his career."
  [Timestamp: 03:01]

• Notable Exchange:
  Sharpe: "Steve Francis was cold, bro."
  Teague: "But Baron Davis just did it longer. He was at a high level longer."
  [Timestamp: 02:27 - 03:00]

Jalen Brunson vs. Melo

The conversation shifts to the intriguing matchup between Jalen Brunson and Melo (likely Carmelo Anthony), examining their leadership, clutch performances, and overall impact on their teams.

• Discussion on Clutch Performance:
  Teague: "Jalen Brunson is a blue-collar worker. He's not just about the stats; he's about delivering when it counts."
  [Timestamp: 39:46]

• Melo's Influence in New York:
  Sharpe: "Melo brought a different aura to New York. His presence sparked something in the team, even when they were struggling."
  [Timestamp: 35:30]

• Comparative Insights:
  Teague: "If Melo played in today’s NBA, he'd be a top-tier player. But Jalen's dedication and team-first mentality make him invaluable, especially in high-pressure situations."
  [Timestamp: 40:55]

Big Men in the NBA: Then and Now

Sharpe and Teague explore the evolution of the center position, comparing legends like Shaquille O'Neal and David Robinson with current stars and discussing the changing dynamics of the game.

• Teague on Shaq's Dominance:
  "Shaq was on a different level. His physicality and presence in the paint were unmatched. Today's players just can't replicate that kind of dominance."
  [Timestamp: 07:56]

• Evolution of the Center Role:
  Sharpe: "Even with players like Giannis, the role of the big man has transformed. They're now expected to keep up with faster, more versatile guards."
  [Timestamp: 08:23]

• Impact of Modern Training:
  Teague: "If legends like David Robinson were coming into the league today, their training and skill sets would have to evolve. The game demands more agility and shooting from all positions."
  [Timestamp: 10:07]

LeBron James and the Next Generation

The duo contemplates LeBron James' potential retirement and his legacy, alongside discussing the prospects of his son, Bryce James, in the NBA.

• LeBron's Transition:
  Sharpe: "LeBron has built an empire. Whether he stays or leaves, his influence is permanent. But if he steps back, it opens doors for the next generation, like his son Bryce."
  [Timestamp: 19:02]

• Bryce James' Future:
  Teague: "Bryce has potential, but it's not just about inheriting fame. He needs to carve his own path, whether that's on the court or in the business side of the game."
  [Timestamp: 19:55]

Conclusion

As the episode wraps up, Sharpe and Teague reflect on the dynamic nature of the NBA, the legacies of its stars, and the excitement surrounding emerging talents. Their passionate debate underscores the ever-evolving landscape of professional basketball and the undying love fans have for the game.

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Notable Quotes:

• "Baron Davis still had everything else too, even when he slowed down." – Teague
  [Timestamp: 03:40]

• "Shaq is crazy. Shaq is a different breed." – Teague
  [Timestamp: 07:34]

• "Jalen Brunson is a blue-collar worker. He's not just about the stats; he's about delivering when it counts." – Teague
  [Timestamp: 39:46]

• "LeBron has built an empire. Whether he stays or leaves, his influence is permanent." – Sharpe
  [Timestamp: 19:02]

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Transcript

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[Unknown Host]

The volume who y' all taking for Real Napron, BD or Steve Francis.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I'm taking Baron Davis.

[Unknown Host]

I'm taking Baron Davis too. But Steve Franchise was cold.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

He was cold. But I'm taking bd.

[Unknown Host]

I'm taking BD too. But damn, bro, Steve Francis was like, you ain't going wrong. Choose either one. I was thinking about that. When they talk, was talking shit to each other, I'm like, I don't think niggas really know how good. If you under 30, you might not know how good Steve Francis was.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Steve Francis cold, bro.

[Unknown Host]

Journey to the NBA alone is crazy. That N was transferring every year from school till he got to Maryland, till he got to college, went crazy and got to the league.

Nah. Yeah, that's not.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Steve Prince was cold, but Baron Davis, bro. Yeah, bro, he just did it longer. I feel like he played longer. Yeah, he was at a high level longer.

[Unknown Host]

I should say who was more explosive.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Ooh.

[Unknown Host]

If you going athlete wise, no disrespect to bd. I gotta go franchise.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I'mma go with BD though.

[Unknown Host]

That's a hell of a. It's close.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I'm going to go with bd because that nigga tore his ACL and still came back crazy.

[Unknown Host]

Look, man, Steve was punching on N, bro.

That was his ticket to the league though. Like, Baron Davis still had everything else too, even when he slowed down.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

But if you really go watch bd, he was so athletic, bro. Like, he punched when he was in Charlotte.

[Unknown Host]

That BD was crazy, man.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

He was punching.

[Unknown Host]

And he wasn't little either. Nah, BD was motherfucking tank.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

He punched on the ticket. Jermaine o' Neal. I mean, Steve Francis punched on too.

[Unknown Host]

Steve Francis mixtape is crazy what he did. Detroit Hudson, so disrespect.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

One of the worst.

[Unknown Host]

So disrespectful, bro.

I was even thinking going down to their handle, like, I'm like, damn. I don't even know who had a better handle because they put in the mixer.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I mean, it's a great battle.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, I just heard them going. I mean, they boys and they was just talking shit. But I'm like, damn, that.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

That's a lot closer.

[Unknown Host]

That's one. Everybody kind of be like, oh, no.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

That'S a great battle. Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

But I'm probably pick BD though, to lead my team.

Oh yeah. If you going off that, then probably go bd.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

But I would like to ask Coutino Mobley that. Cause I know he's super close with Steve, but like, who was better?

[Unknown Host]

Oh yeah, he'll know for sure. Well, not well, he'll have a better analysis than us on that shit. Yeah, I just want that. I just wanted to throw that out there.

Shit, look at that old Rockets team.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Him.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, they was nice, bro. He was a big part of that.

Was y' all really like that?

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Oh, Yao was like that?

[Unknown Host]

Most definitely.

Yeah, I was thinking about that. I'm like, yeah, y' all don't get.

Hurt, Yao, y' all.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Y' all was like that. He just got hurt.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah. Not even from my discretion. Cause obviously, I wasn't really watching y' all that heavy. But from all the players around who played against him, give him that much respect. I gotta respect it off the strength.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

I was like, I know. I mean, of course. Duh. He made the All Star team. I was just like, damn. Was Yao just, like, right there with Shaq? That's what I'm saying.

Well, y' all was gonna make the All Star team regardless.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, he fucked with him, bro. Them votes was crazy.

[Unknown Host]

I forgot they.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Bro, that nigga was so tall, bro. The first time I seen him, bro, we played him, bro. That nigga was so tall. I came to, like, his hip, bro.

[Unknown Host]

Damn.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah. I'm like, man, what the fuck? And then his legs paused, bro. You know how you be like, I got big legs. That nigga legs was like three. Like, three of mine, bro. Like, that nigga shit like a tree trunk. Pause like, bro, I'm like, man, what the. That's why he probably weighed 300 pounds, bro. Was crazy.

[Unknown Host]

Cause he could shoot like a. Yeah.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

He was like slim up here. But that legs was massive, bro.

[Unknown Host]

You know, it's crazy. If y' all would have played in today's NBA, he already had a nice substitute. He would have had a burner.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, he didn't have a 3 in.

[Unknown Host]

Today'S injuries probably killed. Yeah, for sure. But I was just like, damn. I wasn't trying. I was like, who was up there with Shaq? I was trying to think that was close to Shaq.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

He was like, think about it, Wemby.

[Unknown Host]

Like, y' all height.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I think we'll be shorter than y' all. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I was 7 6, right?

[Unknown Host]

Yep.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

That crazy.

[Unknown Host]

Well, she wimby 37 4.

Even if you look at pictures of Shaq and. Yeah, it's crazy.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

And Shaq is crazy.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, 76 is crazy, bro. Is lifting their arms up and smacking on top of the glass, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

You know how you. I was a rookie, you know, you excited to see everybody. I walked out, and they me up cause a talk it's, you know, it's broken English. But he like, what's up, baby? I'm like, what? What? I just knew you were about to say, what's up? You about to play Ching Chow. Like, whatever. It was my father. Whatever they say, Nihau. There we go. That said respect. He said, what's up? I was like, what the fuck?

[Unknown Host]

Did he kill y' all?

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

He ain't even play.

[Unknown Host]

Oh.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

He was like, hurt.

[Unknown Host]

Fuck. I went to, bro.

Look at that picture, bro.

If you ever see him, like, look.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

How much bigger he is in Shaq. Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

That's crazy, bro. When you make Shaq look like little homie, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

That shit is crazy.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah. Luis, roll some yeah.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Clips for us, y' all. Highlights.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah. Cause I was like, damn. When we was talking about the bigs, talking about with Shaq, I'm like, damn. Ain't Wasn't nobody really close. I mean, Sabonis gave him a couple fits, but nigga was really a man of his own, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

All right? Shaq is a different. Yeah, bro. He a different breed.

[Unknown Host]

I was just saying, like, you gotta think how good like David Robinson and them was, bro. He was still his own.

Dave Robinson don't get a lot of respect. Well, no, I'm saying Dan Robinson get the respect he deserves, bro. Dale Robinson was cold. A lot of people just may not know it. Yeah, I know. Timmy came super, but, yeah, bro, he dropped 70 in the game, bro. That's crazy. You dropped 70, you're cold.

He did.

Dave Robinson's quality big, that had bounce.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

But also, Shaq came in killing at the end. Well, I ain't gonna say the end, but, you know, some of those bigs, it was on the decline. You look at, like, Patrick Ewing and, like, Lonzo Moore, and they was, you know what I'm saying? Downgrading real time period. Shaq was to be a Shaq. It was just a change in the guards, for real. Cause even Akeem was still nice.

Akeem was that nigga. I just don't think we ever see no bigs like that again. I mean, the game is changing, but, like, Yoke is in a.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

It ain't a big man league right now. I mean, you got Wimby. They gonna be. The bigs gonna be so unique now that you will never see a Shaq in them. It's gonna always be like a. A Wimby. Like. Cause people just getting taller. Like, everybody just getting even taller. Like, the point guards are 6, 5, 6, 6, 6, 7, and they move way different than the Point guards that was 6, 7, 6, 8. Like, Magic Johnson couldn't really move. Now you got Lamelo, who's 6 7, and he out there crossing, looking like he's 6 foot.

[Unknown Host]

So you think Magic would probably be too slow?

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Hell, yeah. I ain't gonna say he wouldn't make the league or be fired, but he'll be like. He'd be Draymond.

[Unknown Host]

He would be the perfect Draymond.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? He'll be able. He'd be a secondary ball handler, make plays, pass, obviously. He'd probably be a better passer and all that shit.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

So I ain't disrespecting Magic and saying. But I'm saying his skill set.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah. Don't get weird, y' all.

Yeah, he's a coach. We gonna always respect Magic.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

His skill set is Draymond. Like, I hired.

[Unknown Host]

Draymond got you.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Cause he ain't shoot the three like that he posted up. He ran the break.

[Unknown Host]

That's a damn shoot.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Nah, he ran the break, made good passing. That shit Draymond do. Just on a different level, obviously. A different level.

[Unknown Host]

The IQ that Magic has, he could play any type of basketball. The way he was running them breaks, bro, them dimes is crazy.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's definitely a different level. I mean, N started at center one game, had 40 something in the final.

[Unknown Host]

We ain't comparing them at all.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Just simpler style games to step in the NBA right now, just putting his game how he played without no advancements. Obviously, if he got born now, he'd be, what? Probably way more athletic. Probably played different. Probably learned how to shoot and shit.

[Unknown Host]

But is it over for the big man?

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Nah.

[Unknown Host]

Like style.

Nah. I mean, you see embiId just got MVP. You got Yoko just got MVP. I mean, like you said to T's point, it's gonna be slimmer, but it's gonna always be a position. It's gonna always be. Need to be filled for sure.

Cause I just don't know how trainers and shit is teaching big kids how to hoop now. I don't know if niggas are still in the post doing post drills, if that's what they. Or is that a good thing to have? You know what I'm saying?

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Well, if you watched the NCAA tournament, the bigs really won it for Florida. Yeah, they was catching, turning, scoring in the post. They was trapping them ball screens. Biggs was making plays. You got always gonna need that. You look at Cat even like Gobert when he beat the Lakers, That Was crazy. Come on, bro.

[Unknown Host]

27, 24. For somebody that everybody feels could do a lot more with his basketball skills.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

When you need him.

[Unknown Host]

Mostly dominated.

Yeah, but I don't want to rely on Gobert. I'll give y' all cap. I'll give y' all cap.

Shit, look at Isaiah Hardstein. I mean, the Knicks is doing well this year, but it's a severe difference in the way that the Knicks dominated offensive boards than they did last year.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Or even look at Mitchell Robinson now. He's one of the top officer rebounders in the league. Yeah, just. You need that. Like, if you really had a dominating big, like, all right, if we had Shaq against this Boston Celtics team. Shaq averaged 50.

[Unknown Host]

Nothing they could do.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

There would be nothing they could do, bro. He could set a screen that I want to switch. He gonna roll dunk. Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Shaq could kill JB in there. What about Olajuwon, though?

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Same thing. They could post for real.

[Unknown Host]

They had elite feats.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

They was real life strong.

[Unknown Host]

Like, so if Embiid was healthy and on the Knicks, they would beat the shit out of Boston.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Nah, I ain't say that. Cause Embiid don't do with Shaq and them. Like Shaq and them real life went to the post every single time. Like, you too little. Give me the ball.

[Unknown Host]

Like, Embiid is drawing fouls.

All right, Put Joker on the Knicks. Are they beating balls?

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Joker? The Joker. Yeah, they be nasty.

[Unknown Host]

What? They beating everybody.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, but Joker, he not as dominant as Shaq, though. Like, when I'm telling y' all, bro, when we used to watch. When you go watch Shaq, bro, they used to real life throw the ball.

[Unknown Host]

No, I'm just saying, like, he needs to just back.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Boom, boom, dunk. Boom, boom, dunk. Like, you had to have five or six niggas to guard him. Like centers. Like, you gonna get two fouls in the first two minutes. We already know you be ready. Like, that's how Dwight Howard was, bro. Like, people don't like to get Dwight his credit, bro. That's how Dwight Howard was, nigga. We had five centers for Dwight Howard, bro.

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[Unknown Host]

It's just tough, man. Look at it. It's a lot of places, man. It's dam Death of a dynasty. Realistically, you look at like a being a legend killer. You know what I'm saying? Stepping out. They gonna probably get them up out of here. Look at Brian. We thinking next year it might be Brian last year, more than likely for him.

Told y' all, Brian playing bro to 45.

I don't see it, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I don't either.

[Unknown Host]

I think Ron is too Brian for that to happen. There won't be a point where Brian average 18. I don't see that. I don't think that he even gonna stand for no like that, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

And he kind of giving hints off like he tired of playing. Not tired, but like, I'm sick of this.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Like, he's saying shit like, yo, I'm passing it off to the next generation. Like, just saying shit.

[Unknown Host]

Like you saying the signs are there.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, they there.

[Unknown Host]

Hey, the last time somebody said something about what we need, they get traded. Bron five years ago is not saying that.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Nah, he wouldn't even say that. Pre.

[Unknown Host]

Kobe Bryan wouldn't dare say that shit.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

He gonna make some jokes about nothing getting traded ever. Like, he ain't.

[Unknown Host]

I think we gotta see what Bryce gonna do, man.

He's red shirt next year. I don't think that LeBron James is about to wait two more years and get his son in the league. If he do, then he's really the guy.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I don't even think his son thinking about the NBA.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, I don't think that's on the game plan. Respect for Bryce. Obviously, he gonna be solid. I don't know if that's in the. I don't think that's in the spot.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I think he gonna take over the family's content space.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, Bronnie, be lit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Bronnie be lit. Bryce off the court. Yeah, you be lit, bro.

Yeah, I go, all right, I fuck with Bryce. Bron is going to be in there, wait to see what his boy is going to do, and then he going, all right, y' all, I'm out the gang here.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I think Bryce gonna be like, a cool college player. He gonna play a little bit, but I think he gonna, like, go into, like, the content space. Like, he gonna be doing stuff with Bron and run the empire, bro. Like, doing other shit.

[Unknown Host]

Run the empire?

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yes, bro. Run the empire, bro.

[Unknown Host]

Go to school, learn whatever you need.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

To learn to run the empire.

[Unknown Host]

He gonna get the hoop, too. Fuck it. If you go to the pros, fuck it. It's lit.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

If not, like, Bronny was like, yo, we getting him to the league? Yeah, Bronny got to the league.

[Unknown Host]

Okay. I just. I don't know, man. I just believe that Bryce could. You know, I like Bronny better than Bryce, but I'm like, for LeBron, what he's thinking to me, come on, man. I'm getting my dogs in the league, bro.

If he do, that's hard, and I don't care.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I mean, it is tight.

[Unknown Host]

He already did it. It's fine.

I don't think.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Cause he don't mention it. Like, he mentioned it with Bronny. Like, he don't really talk about it.

[Unknown Host]

He told n he was there.

Remember? He said this tweet. He said, hey, it's a couple in here, Bronnie washing, man. It's a random Saturday night. I said, oh, yeah. Brian is feeling this, which was crazy.

But respect.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

But he ain't standing on your kids. He ain't doing that with bro. Like, he let him go to Arizona. He ain't staying close to home. He kind of letting him, like, go ahead.

[Unknown Host]

Come on, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Go ahead.

[Unknown Host]

We are a billion dollar enterprise, bro.

Right?

Go hoop, have fun. But we're gonna maintain the Lexi, bro. Yeah, he gonna be the littest on earth.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Maintain the lake. He gonna be with Mav and all them. And.

[Unknown Host]

Oh, yeah, you know, y' all call.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Working for Nike or some, bro.

[Unknown Host]

They just called destinies. The way they broke it down was very. Yeah, like, this is what's happening, y' all.

But we are a billion. But a lot of don't have this type of arrangements to have broken.

Yeah, I made the arrangements.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

See, your dad is LeBron like, you get.

[Unknown Host]

His name is on the side of a Nike building. You're not going to work at Nike. You're going to work with Nike. Yeah, you're going to run LeBron James.

Don't. Don't Marcus Jordan me for sure.

Marcus did not run a family.

That shoe store was fire.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, it is.

[Unknown Host]

No, Marcus.

That shoe store he had was fire.

It's still there. The trophy room is fire.

Fire, bro.

But he's not running team Jordan, is.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

What I'm saying to you.

[Unknown Host]

Bryce can run LeBron.

I want to run the soldiers, bro. I'm trying to h, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I don't think he trying to hoop like that, bro.

[Unknown Host]

Respect.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I ain't saying he not a hoop.

[Unknown Host]

You will be running stride for greatness, man.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, we're a billion dollar organization, bro. You will be making appearance at Akron.

[Unknown Host]

Yes, bro. You can do whatever you want to, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

You will be going to Akron.

[Unknown Host]

Y funny.

For sure, man. We gonna get up out of here. But, yo, be here and tell the people that.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Grab some merch at, man.

[Unknown Host]

Shopclub520.com baby. Man, see y' all on May 17th. We will be going up. For the love of Barbie. We still figuring out the kinks. Hit the DM. She's supposed to be picking 10 guys, so if she don't do it, I'mma pick them out the crowd and we gonna rock like that. So it is what it is.

Most definitely. Hey, man, shout out to everybody who pulled up to the Pop up and we don't run, man, y' all went crazy. Yeah, we was in there going crazy.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

You know what I'm saying?

[Unknown Host]

People supported.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

They ain't tell me we did.

[Unknown Host]

Please stop asking for tickets from us. We told y' all yes.

Hit Mike.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

No, hold on. So what's the pop up? What's that like? I ain't never been to a Pop Up. What's that mean?

[Unknown Host]

So we were selling these type of.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Barbecue and out there.

[Unknown Host]

No, I bought some donuts from Longs. You know, I'm saying the first 25 people who pulled up and got shirts, they got tickets to the show.

Yeah.

So it was.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Damn, where was that?

[Unknown Host]

We have some people lined up this morning. It was lined up outside, pulled up for the shirts. See, that's hating on your own.

We only have extra larges left. Everything else, hold up.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Oh, y' all is lit. Lined up for y' all shirts.

[Unknown Host]

That's homie. Shout out to. We don't run.

GP And Mike.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Nah, for real, though. It was really people out there.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, it was, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Damn, that's tight, y' all. I'm proud of y' all boys.

[Unknown Host]

Hey, man, shout out to the supporters, man. We appreciate y' all, man. Come celebrate next week.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Hold on.

[Unknown Host]

Do y' all understand how much I don't like this sometimes?

He said, who else was up there?

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Was it like food and club? Was it like barbecue or shit out there?

[Unknown Host]

No, bro, it was 11 o' clock in the morning.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

They. Why nobody tell me? We did.

[Unknown Host]

They did, bro. I come here cuz I had something to do.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Didn't nobody tell me, bro. I would have went, bro, I swear.

[Unknown Host]

No, you know what? You know, you know what?

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Y' all did not tell me.

[Unknown Host]

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[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Head to your local Walmart or Target and try the OG Degree Cool Rush for yourself.

[Unknown Artist]

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[Unknown Speaker]

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[Unknown Artist]

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[Unknown Speaker]

Because it's impossible for you to be the most authentic you. It's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people. Your mountain is that.

[Unknown Artist]

Listen to Made for this mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Clayton English]

I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lodd and this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Sir, we are back in a big way.

[Greg Lodd]

In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives.

[Clayton English]

This kind of star studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner.

[Unknown Host]

It's just the compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for.

[Greg Lodd]

Themselves music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

We have this misunderstanding of what this quote unquote drug thing is.

[Greg Lodd]

Benny the Butcher Brent Smith from Shinedown.

[Clayton English]

Got Be real from Cypress Hill, NHL enforcer Riley Cote, Marine Corps vet MMA fighter Liz Caramouche what we're doing now.

[Unknown Host]

Isn'T working and we need to change that things.

[Greg Lodd]

Stories matter and it brings a face to them.

[Clayton English]

It makes it real.

[Greg Lodd]

It really does. It makes it real.

[Clayton English]

Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcast.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Foreign.

[Michael Kasson]

Cassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode I'm joined by Anjali Sud, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming how she's turning so called niche into mainstream goal connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen.

[Angeli Sud]

What others dismiss as niche we embrace as core. It's this idea that there's so many stories out there and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content. The term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.

[Michael Kasson]

Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment and sports collide and hear how leaders like Angeli are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

What are we gonna do with the warriors, man?

[Unknown Host]

Man, it's so they in such a tough spot because like Steph should be playing for championships or not right now and I don't know if that's what they own and I don't know if Steph want to leave or not.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Would you call this a successful year or would you be like, I mean for the Warrior standards, obviously he's not a successful steer, but do you think it's a they had a good year?

[Unknown Host]

I would from where they started and.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Where they were all star break when they had Dennis Schroder to now?

[Unknown Host]

Most definitely. Most definitely.

Nah, that's a definitely definitely.

They still got Jimmy?

Nah, a thousand percent bro. I think they gonna shake back next year though.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

So who you got in the Western Conference finals? You got OKC Verse Wolves or you.

[Unknown Host]

Got I Got okc.

Okay.

Because that's what it is.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

OKC versus Wolves.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

You don't think Denver take the seven?

[Unknown Host]

I don't got Denver taking it in seven. I got OKC prevailing respect.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

What you got, Mike?

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, I know good and damn well we know you don't give a professional basketball.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I don't give a fuck.

[Unknown Host]

Two years in this pot, you still ain't tapped in yet.

I know all the. The players, the highlights, the stats and everything, because I got to, but I don't give a damn.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Damn who you got. DJ okc. You think?

[Unknown Host]

I think we gonna get Shay versus A. And I think that's gonna be fire match.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Okay, but who y' all are? That's. I'm perfect. That was like a great transition. Who you taking if you starting a team? You taking AE or Shay A.

[Unknown Host]

Y' all know who I'm picking, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I don't.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, yeah, I do. Y' all know I was on A AE training for everybody.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Mike, if you were just. Obviously this is perfect because you don't.

[Unknown Host]

Like basketball AE as a personality.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

So you'll take AE to start your franchise.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, but I'm not mad at. If somebody takes Shay. I told y' all, bro, he's just not rah rah like y' all from a money aspect or like a basketball performance aspect, just like your franchise AE personality.

Who you talking second ae.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

It's not even close to me.

[Unknown Host]

Like, damn, he too polarized of a.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, like, Shay would be like, I love his game as a basketball player, but he'd be like 20th on my list if I take the starter. Franchise.

[Unknown Host]

Hell no, Jeff. If you had a list of players in front of you, I think you would see that differently.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

No, I wouldn't.

[Unknown Host]

20 is crazy.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I would take Luka Doncic. I just seen how City fucking damn near killed somebody. Cause he left. So you literally love him. He's love wherever he go.

[Unknown Host]

Shout out to Nico.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

So I'm taking Luka easy. I see how much people love Tyrese Halliburton in Indiana.

[Unknown Host]

Like, nah, hell no.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I'm telling you, bro, it's not that he's a better player.

[Unknown Host]

Hey, shout out to Reecy cup, bro. But I'm nothing, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

What I'm saying is, listen, it's not that Tyrese is nowhere near a better player than Sha, but it's something about Tyrese that people like or hate, and.

[Unknown Host]

That'S enough to keep it.

I love Tyrese game, actually. I ain't never been on the hating side. I think that I just talked about this too. I think that hate from his peers fueled his game and it was good for the Pacers and him for sure.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

It's something like nobody. Everybody knows Shay is nice, but nobody. Like, you don't hear like, everybody. He cold. His game is nice. The Pierce we all know he cold. But like fans. You gotta like okc. You gotta be from Oklahoma to be like, yeah, that's my guy.

[Unknown Host]

I might be biased cause I was on that train.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, but like ae. Like, even still, like, if I had to pick a team, like, LeBron will still get picked before Shay.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah. Cause that's Brian kd. But remove all them old heads. James Harden, Kawhi.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Nah, I wouldn't pick. I wouldn't pick James Harden over Sha.

[Unknown Host]

But I'm saying. You said 20, bro. It's not 20 players better than Shane.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Think of all the years.

[Unknown Host]

No way.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Like Wimbiana.

[Unknown Host]

Wendy even take Wemby.

I'm taking Wemby.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Jayson Tatum.

[Unknown Host]

No.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, right.

[Unknown Host]

To start my team.

Taking Shay.

I love. I'm shitty. My nigga tore his whatever he tore.

He can't get shout out to sergeant.

He'll up soon. I'm shitty. He can't get MVP this year.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

No, I'm not, man. Yeah, right.

[Unknown Host]

Damn.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Shay a leader, bro. Jason Tatum a leader. But it's different. Shay working with Les, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, but it's just like for real.

[Unknown Host]

Them is regular niggas, bro. No disrespect to the NBA games. Like, everybody in the NBA can hoop. But what's Shay playing with, bro? Bro, he's over overachieving, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

You taking Jalen Brunson or you taking Shay at the start to a team?

[Unknown Host]

Take it, Shay. If Shay had motherfucking fucking cat. And Mikel Bridges and og, bro, they raw. Them niggas is better than okc talent wise.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I'm taking Jalen Brunson because the pressures to play in New York, it's different. It's so much greater than playing okc.

[Unknown Host]

He got his dad bigger than New York.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I'm just saying, everybody not built for that. I'm not saying Shay not. Not saying we ain't never seen him.

[Unknown Host]

But it's different structure, bro. Like, I like people don't even put respect. It ain't to be like on you or nothing. But, nigga, you grew up like Jalen Bronson. It just wasn't filmed. Your pops was just like motherfucking that.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Y' all heard that noise?

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, it's the tv.

Yeah, I'm just saying. Your Pops was just like that. So that's different, bro. That's different. What New York give Jalen Brunson, nigga, He like, nigga, my pops was way worse than that. Just like you. You could. That's why you were so good with different type of coaches, nigga. Cause your dad was motherfucking goddamn Joe Jackson.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Oh, God.

[Unknown Host]

That's just saying. I don't know what Shay lineage is.

I don't either.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I mean, I seen his pops on Gilbert show, and his pops seem like he was a real nigga.

[Unknown Host]

No, it's probably solid. But I'm saying, it's just that when you growing up different like that, I just shay to me what he got. I don't know if Jalen Brunson is that type of player to take them young niggas. You got cat Mikel Bridges and og, Bro. That's a. You got a whip. You still the leader. But damn, bro, like, that nigga took less money for a reason.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, but he's still, like, the focal point.

[Unknown Host]

Like, he's still the one.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Like, he's shooting 14 times of the locks, you know he's shooting 14. Yeah, he shooting 14 times in a.

[Unknown Host]

Row in the fourth quarter.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Like, you got cat on your team. Like, nah, N, watch out.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah. Cause even I look at them last year, like, even though they came up short against us, hey, he was dominating. He got his CD back rocking. Not to discount Shay. Cause Shay, like you said, doing a lot, but less.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Listen, Carmelo Anthony went to the Knicks, bro.

[Unknown Host]

He do not.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

He got it way more lit than when Melo was there.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, and Melo had squats.

Mello had that aura, too. He did, but he mellow aura different.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

It ain't bigger than Jay. It ain't bigger than Jalen.

[Unknown Host]

It is. The aura is in New York. Listen. Nah, fam, Melo himself or Mellow Melo himself. Listen, Melo aura in New York is way bigger than Jalen Brunson aura in New York right now.

Oh, no, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Cat, bro.

[Unknown Host]

They just said Jalen Brunson is winning for sure. And that's good for the city. But if you just take them as people.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, that's cause.

[Unknown Host]

Oh, yeah.

Mello is big. Melo is bigger than Jalen Brunson.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Mellow been famous since we was.

[Unknown Host]

That's what I'm saying. That's when I say in New York, they just look. Yes, in New York. Mello was losing in New York, bro. And he was still the biggest, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

That's the biggest nigga New York.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, that's the oral.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

But they said he's the biggest free agent signing in New York Knicks history.

[Unknown Host]

I'm not mad at that. That's coming from a basketball perspective.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

If Jayla, bro, Brunson walk down the street in New York right now and Melo walk down the street, they gonna be like, jb, I swear to God, bro, he got the Knicks lit.

[Unknown Host]

He do, bro. But it's a lot of with him. He the biggest for the Knicks right now. I'm telling you, Melo's popularity aura is different. Melo is that Brunson works so hard to get where he is now. Jalen Brunson is a blue collar. You're not saying Mellow is just a spoon fed. But it's different, bro. Mellow was getting compared to LeBron, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I'm not saying that, but I'm saying what Jalen must have been in New York three years, two years.

[Unknown Host]

This is.

Yeah, he might go down as the best player, but I swear to God, if they wouldn't win it in two.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Years, he surpassed everything Mellow did.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah. Cause so far it's just winning basketball. I'm saying give him his same numbers and Mellow's record. Mellow is bigger.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

That's what I'm saying. You can't do that. What he did for the Knicks, that's what people dream for Melo to do. They like we wish Mellow would have did.

[Unknown Host]

And it's unfortunate because Melo got a different version of James Dolan too.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, yeah.

[Unknown Host]

He got a.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

He.

[Unknown Host]

He got delta tone overhead.

No, no, no. And that's not true.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Jackson and shit.

[Unknown Host]

Jaylon Brunson, because he took that pay cut and believed in his team to get them to where they is. He. Jalen Brunson understood the assignment to bring New York to where they is. Melo was like, shit, I'm just trying to get paid in a big market. It's two different swags, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

But I'm saying like. And I got the utmost respect for Melo. I think he one of the coldest players ever. The thing is, Jalen Brunson did that shit when New York was like not popping. Like, Melo went to New York and they was actually good.

[Unknown Host]

Did they hear what Amari did?

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

They was actually hooping. Like, Amari really got the Knicks rolling.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, bro. And the hurt was cool.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

But then Mellow came and he like lit a fire. Like, oh, this popping, like New York, New York lit. They got Mellow, they got Amari, but it was never lit. Like.

[Unknown Host]

And then they portrayed him and traded.

Yeah, because y' all. I'm just telling y' all, Mellow was lit because they were still losing, and that was still like, scoring 50 points with on all two points.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, but it ain't look like that was NBC.

[Unknown Host]

We watched. We argued at your house, bro, when we Mellow played against goddamn D. Rose, bro. It's different, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

It ain't like this, though. It ain't like this.

[Unknown Host]

You think Jalen Brunson is just as.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Big as a superstar as Carmelo Anthony in New York? Yes. Right now. Yes.

[Unknown Host]

Damn, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

It's not like the only that was bigger than New York than Jalen Brunson is right now was Jeremy Lynn. Listen, and I swear, nobody was bigger than Jeremy Lynn.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah. Cause he got all the other people with him.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

That wasn't even close, like.

[Unknown Host]

Cause he's a foreigner, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, but I'm just saying that wasn't close.

[Unknown Host]

How we talk about. You know what I mean? You got to cheat.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, he had a cheat code.

[Unknown Host]

But Jalen Brunson, like, the blueprint.

Yes.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Jalen Brunson got that same type of Jeremy Lynn effect. No, no, no. I'm talking about, like, he getting that same. Jeremy Lynn was off the charts. Like, he was the most famous in the NBA.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, that Lynn sanity.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

He made a movie off that.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, no, he.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

He was bigger than Kobe for them two weeks, bro.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Like, was the biggest person in the world. We went to play the nigga. It was. It had to be 100, 200 cameras under the rim when he was shooting for warmups, bro. I never seen nothing like that shit. I'm like, this shit is crazy.

[Unknown Host]

He killed against y' all.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, he killed. He got a hell of a game. But Mellow. Yeah. Melo had came back, so it was a. I mean, he probably had, like, 18 and, like 7 or 18 and 10, whatever it was. He had a good game. But Melo had came back, so.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah. You know what time it was?

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah. You know what I mean? He kind of was hated a little bit, but.

[Unknown Host]

I ain't mad at that. I ain't mad at that. I just stand with. I stand with Melo.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Nah, I love Mellow, too.

[Unknown Host]

Jalen Brunson. I just don't think Jalen Brunson has that. If Jalen Brunson was like, hey, it'd be different. Jalen Brunson.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Jalen Brunson had an attitude like ae.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, it'd be different, bro. He'll be.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

He'll be Michael Jordan.

[Unknown Host]

If Jalen Brunson came Out of the game and called somebody sad as fuck, bro. Them New York fans would eat that up. But, bro, he's a solid killer.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

He kill and he do little that make you be like, so if he.

[Unknown Host]

Goes to the Finals, he the biggest since Pat Ewing, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

He bigger than Pat. He take the Knicks to the finals right now.

[Unknown Host]

He bigger than Pat generation.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Probably bigger than pat.

[Unknown Host]

The OGs ain't gonna go for this generation. They gonna be like, y' all crash.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Out, but OG's gonna ride with Pat. But, yeah, the real nigga Alan Houston was killing, bro. Like Pat was Larry Johnson.

[Unknown Host]

That's the real bucket Mike don't know nothing about.

One of the best.

Could walk right past Mike right now.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, but like Jalen Brunson, bro. Like every bro. I love Jalen Brunson. I love Mellow to Death. But Melo wasn't doing what Jalen Brunson doing in the fourth quarter, bro. No, bro. Clutch buckets, bro.

[Unknown Host]

Mello was like that team.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

He is.

[Unknown Host]

I think it's cause niggas is winning and Jalen. Jalen Brunson is.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

That matters.

[Unknown Host]

Is earning his contract for sure.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

For sure. And if Melo played in this era, Melo would kill. Melo would be probably one of the. He'd be top three players.

[Unknown Host]

Niggas up.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

This point in the pod is when I would be googling and searching up stats. When no played in New York.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, Mello would be killing this league.

[Unknown Host]

Like, Mello played in a different Jalen Brunson.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Mello played in a different era where, like, scoring is more prevalent now. So he'll be killing, but I can't compare. Cause he don't play. You know what I mean? So.

[Unknown Host]

Nah, you right.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Like, that's me. I'd be like, damn, I probably would have been a better player if I played now than when I played. Cause you could do shit that I grew up doing.

[Unknown Host]

But shout out to Melo, though, and you ain't disrespecting him or nothing.

It's nothing but respect. Don't clip to something. Be weird.

Yeah, you know how people get weird on YouTube and shit. But I'm saying, though, like, Jalen Brusher really got a better team, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Is it really better?

[Unknown Host]

Yes, bro. Cause Chauncey and then was cool. Yeah, bro. Chauncey then was cool, bro. But this team was.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

J.R. smith is better than who? Everybody else on their team besides Katt and Amari's what matters, bro. Amari styled him.

[Unknown Host]

Amari barely played with Brondo T. It's different.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, he just got dumbed down. He was hurt, but he got dumbed down a little bit. With Melo there, you got J.R. smith.

[Unknown Host]

You got Iman Shumpert.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Shump was just as good as Josh Hart.

[Unknown Host]

The white boy that shot threes.

Steve Novak.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Steve Novak.

[Unknown Host]

Novak. Come on, bro. Fuck no. Melo didn't even have a big team.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Tyson Chandler was on their team.

[Unknown Host]

Come on, bro.

Tyson won a chip after the team.

TC Is the reason why Dallas won the championship.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Is better than Mitchell Robinson, bro.

[Unknown Host]

All day, what we talking about?

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

All day, what we talking about?

[Unknown Host]

Like that cat is better than Tyson Chandler.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Well, they had a mark.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah, bro, but Amari didn't play. Come on, keep it real, bro. M. Bridges and OG Anobi, bro. Is a better duo than Shumper, than J R Smith on some real.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, I mean, Junior is just.

[Unknown Host]

And I with Iman and shot of.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

The year at that time.

[Unknown Host]

But to have two wings like that is crazy, bro. Got seven foot wingspans, bro. And guard up any position.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

But Melo one of the wings.

[Unknown Host]

Jayla Russell.

Really?

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

It's really Melo and J.R. smith against Jalen Brunson.

[Unknown Host]

Gets you relaxed, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

It's. Yeah.

[Unknown Host]

Cause he. He take. He could take some nights off and.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Then he's a point guard for the Knicks.

[Unknown Host]

The first game against the Celtics, nigga, OG Looked like the best player on the floor with JB and everybody out there.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah. Who was the point guard for the Knicks?

[Unknown Host]

Chauncey Billups. Played pg.

Raymond Felt wasn't pg.

He got trade. One of my favorite point guards.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

He got traded for Melo.

[Unknown Host]

Did he? I don't even know who led that. That's what I'm saying. We don't even know who led that team. Only. Only point guard I remember playing with.

They did have O.J. kidd.

Come on, man. Got better when they left New York. Maybe it was something in New York. Cause JK was on that maverick squad, too. Only point guard I remember really playing with Mello, bro, is legit. Chauncey Billis and YouTube. I know y' all check everything. Check that.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

They had older guards in New York. That's a fact. I mean, they had.

[Unknown Host]

You don't remember them matchups.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

They had an older team. I mean, Melo had an older team, bro.

[Unknown Host]

That's different. That's what I'm saying. Jalen Brunson is literally rocking with niggas that he's around his age group. Like, come on, man. Mikel Bridges is really one of the best fucking wings in the NBA. Top 10 wing in the NBA.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I'm not saying their team wasn't better, but what he doing with that team? Cause, nigga, they don't get the ball like that when it's time to win the game. Nigga, they get a ball in Jalen.

[Unknown Host]

Burke, you gonna give it to your killer. What you say about Joe? Joe said y' all do y' all thing these first three quarters, the fourth quarter, nigga, give me the pill.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

But I'm saying you doing that, they.

[Unknown Host]

Earn that nigga, I hundred million dollar cut. Give me the fucking ball.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

But listen, could do Mike.

[Unknown Host]

You think Mike is taking the $100 million cut for us?

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Listen, I would listen. Oh, I'm not. I'm not taking that. But listen, he doing that in. He doing that in the fourth quarter East. He about to be in the Eastern Conference finals. It's like, you can't. He. He lit.

[Unknown Host]

Is Jaylen Brusser better than Tyler? I mean, Tyler, Tyrese Halberton.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yes.

[Unknown Host]

He got a beam, though.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

And they about to. They about to meet up.

[Unknown Host]

He got a Beat him.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

But I mean, they did get their ass beat tonight, so Celtics might be on or something. But Jalen Brunson, bro, he got, bro, people in New York, bro, telling him, bro, y' all don't gotta do nothing else, bro. You did enough. We love you like, bro, they want to put us. They gonna retire his jersey already, bro.

[Unknown Host]

To pivot this conversation, I want to ask y' all this question. Of the remaining people left, we got a lot of people who could be first time champions between Halliburton, JB AE and Shay. I mean, we ain't gonna count out. Okay? I mean, Denver. But just amongst those, who would the championship mean the most to?

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Jalen Bronson.

[Unknown Host]

Okay, because the Knicks.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

New York. If he won a chip in New.

[Unknown Host]

York, bro, he's forever good. No matter what.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

He forever good now. But if he win a chip in.

[Unknown Host]

New York, bro, he gonna meet the most, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

He gonna. They might put a statue up, bro.

[Unknown Host]

They got to though. He be the most polarizing figure ever just cause of the market. If okc, if Shay wins an NBA championship, it would. It wouldn't look nowhere near as Jalen Bronson. But nobody give a fuck about Oklahoma City, bro.

What about a.

That's a.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

A it be lit, but nobody gives a.

[Unknown Host]

About.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

It's like Giannis on the chip.

[Unknown Host]

No, it. And that's a good point too. But it's like if Shay wins it on my mama, he gonna get treated like Kawhi Leonard in Toronto.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, real Shit, Giannis in the world.

[Unknown Host]

New York. If Pat Ewing would have won in New York, bro. Pat Ewing would have never put on the Orlando Magic jersey.

Yeah, bro.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Bro.

[Unknown Host]

Real shit. So is everybody but DJ counting the Pacers out?

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Oh, I'm not counting them out.

[Unknown Host]

Oh, damn.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I'm not. I think they can win, but I'm just saying. Jalen Brunson, if you win a ring in New York, you like you a guy, bro.

[Unknown Host]

If Tyrese Halliburton win on my mama. That's KWA Leonard championship.

Oh, if we win a championship, they're gonna say we don't give a fuck.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

They're gonna say there's three other teams in this final four that we think of. Denver don't win. Minnesota, okc, Indiana. Small market teams. Nobody give a fuck.

[Unknown Host]

Nobody gonna give a fuck. That's how the NBA works.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah. So New York, they beat Boston. They the only team.

[Unknown Host]

But I ain't gonna lie. It's. It's lit in Indiana. If Tyrese bring a ship for us.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Because we from there.

[Unknown Host]

If Tyrese Bird puts a chip in.

Gainesbridge, bro, you have to give him. He is the greatest pacer of all time.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Nobody gonna give a. Like, if the Pacers and OKC make it to the final, it's gonna be the least watched finals ever.

[Unknown Host]

Oh, yeah, you think the draft, like was rigged now, boy, they gonna make.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Sure like that gonna be. You remember when. Who was that the Knicks and the spurs played or something? Did nobody watch the finals? Yeah, it's gonna be worse than that.

[Unknown Host]

I agree.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

That ain't nobody gonna watch the finals, bro.

[Unknown Host]

I agree, but I think it's good for you.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

That's why the NBA need New York.

[Unknown Host]

It'd be good for our city. Cause niggas don't remember when the Colts won the Super Bowl. It was quiet.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

But Peyton Manning was so polarized.

[Unknown Host]

That was the murder, though.

It was. But it was really quiet, y' all.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Oh, it was probably definitely mid. It was like a.

[Unknown Host]

About we went, me and my N. Dr. Downtown.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Like, he probably was weak as it was.

[Unknown Host]

It was. It was.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

But only ae.

[Unknown Host]

It was quiet.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

AE can stay the finals. Either Jalen Brunson or AE can say the finals. But if it's OKC in Indiana, bro, that is not.

[Unknown Host]

Ain't no telling what Ae gonna do if he win.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

But Ae playing on in the finals. It's gonna be. Cause he gonna start saying shit, you know why we here. Yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But if it's Indiana and okc filthy.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah. Cause they Went and shipped me to everybody. I'm better than all y' all now. What's up?

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, and they gonna have to tell Obama.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

Yeah. Really?

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah. Like, he. He talking like he liked that. I am like that. They know that. You tell the president that, bro. You.

[Unknown Host]

Yeah.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

And then looked at him like he offended me. Like, is you talking about.

[Unknown Host]

I'm rolling. Y' all don't. Before that. Cause Obama out of pockets.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Hey, what's the. That played for the Philadelphia Eagles. I think his name was Knox Cox. Pause. He was like a defensive tackle for the Philadelphia Eagles back in the day.

[Unknown Host]

He was jabbing them.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

I don't know. I think his name was like, something Cox. But Paul's. But he was like, that's just a. That's a wild. Last night.

[Unknown Host]

Cox.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Yeah, that one. But he was like, good. But when Bush was the president, he came walking by. He was like, I heard you a Cowboys fan. He was like, who told you that? How you know that? He was like, we about to beat they ass. Don't worry about it. We gonna beat their ass, too. Fuck you talking about? I was like, damn, Fletcher Cox. That's his name.

[Unknown Host]

Shout out to Fletcher Cox.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

One of the best. He was like, you gonna beat their ass? I was like, yeah, I like them kind of.

[Unknown Host]

Nah, for sure, for sure.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

He's like, I don't give a fuck about you walking across this field.

[Unknown Host]

But I'm saying a win the NBA in trouble.

Oh, yeah. Y' all thought sent the video was bad. It is up.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

And with that being said, my nigga.

[Unknown Host]

Gonna go crazy next year, and I can't wait.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Nah, for sure, his roster gonna give updated rosters.

[Unknown Host]

There you have it. The origin stories of Freaky Mike.

Wait, wait, wait. Before y' all. Before y' all go, I have to ask one question.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Okay.

[Unknown Host]

Pop your.

Where do y' all think y' all.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Would be without me, Man? Get the out here. Origin story.

[Unknown Host]

The freaky mic back on iPad.

Wait, wait, wait. Does that mean y' all. Y' all wouldn't be here right now?

You.

You helped us a lot. And I think, like, I'm with my flowers. We on our way to being a big, big, big media company here soon, bro. With your help. So we appreciate you.

Shout out to Freaky Mike.

You be doing some fuck, but we.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Appreciate you n. I'll be honest, bro. I don't think this podcast will work if you weren't part of it.

[Unknown Host]

That's true.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

That's a fact.

[Unknown Host]

All right, bet. D.J. sh.

Nah, bro. I give you your flyers all the time, bro. Especially from a business aspect. The things we get done, bro. A lot of stuff would not get done because of how persistent you are. We're having conversation with people and handle business. I always give you a flyers on that.

That's why he book our Ubers and all that shit. That's why when we go out to eat, no matter who's with us, he pulls out his car. So he earns his key for sure.

With that being said, his flight benefits is crazy.

On my mama Sierra. I sabotage our Disney tribute.

That is on behalf of us.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

That is on behalf of us.

[Unknown Host]

That's a fact. With all that being said, I want y' all to comment, like share, subscribe, but make sure the comment says pay Freaky Mike. That's cool.

Ask him how much his bonus was.

Everybody. I'm short of guy 5:17 this Saturday. If you didn't get a ticket, it don't matter. We telling back nine. Everybody is in for free. Pull up.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Everybody getting in.

[Unknown Host]

I don't know if it's free, but you can slide. But make sure your ass is on fire.

Everybody getting in, man, just pull up at 4 o' clock. Everybody that has a ticket will get in. Everybody that doesn't have a ticket will have to stand in line and we will make sure that you are in eyesight of the stage. We want it as fat as possible.

With that being said, make sure you pull your ass up.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

4 o' clock.

[Unknown Host]

Don't be on CP time. We getting it cracking.

[Unknown Sports Analyst]

Can't wait.

[Unknown Host]

520 day dope merch. We got bow wow sliding through. We're gonna have a good time, man. We gonna celebrate, y' all. We appreciate y' all for fucking with us. So you know what's up up. We'll be back next time. Club 520.

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[Greg Lodd]

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You're listening to an I Heart podcast.