Club Shay Shay – "Best of Heated Moments Part 1":

Ocho CHECKS Cris Carter for DISRESPECTING his football career
Date: December 14, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe | Guest: Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)

Episode Overview

This "Best of Heated Moments" episode of Club Shay Shay—hosted by NFL legend Shannon Sharpe and frequent guest Chad "Ocho Cinco" Johnson—dives deep into passionate debates and spicy NFL rivalries. The centerpieces include fiery discussions on player legacies, particularly whether Asante Samuel deserves mention among the all-time great cornerbacks, a stinging response to Cris Carter’s comments about Ocho's career, and an intense take on loyalty and privacy after a viral story about Russell Wilson’s Thanksgiving. Throughout, the tone is raw, candid, and loaded with personal anecdotes from two players who’ve faced everything the league throws at you.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Is Asante Samuel an All-Time Great Cornerback?

Timestamps: 02:30–21:15

• Context: Asante Samuel claps back at previous on-air debates where Shannon and Ocho compared him unfavorably to legends like Deion "Prime" Sanders (referred to as "Time"), Darrelle Revis, and Rod Woodson.

• Shannon’s Stand:

  • Firmly argues Samuel isn’t in the top tier of corners—citing stats, accolades, and impact.
  • Quote:

    “Bro, you had an unbelievable career. You went to a Pro Bowl, you an All Pro. You’re not Time.” [04:43]

  • Lists other greats—insisting that Samuel doesn’t make the top 7 or 10, despite a great career.
  • Challenges: “Find a GM, coach, or player who says Asante Samuel is the equivalent or better than Time. That’s all you gotta do.” [06:57]

• Ocho’s Counter:

  • Calls for more respect, arguing career numbers and that “being in the room” matters.
  • Seeks nuance, noting technique differences and that stats often drive these debates (“We always bring up the numbers, but all of a sudden the numbers are ignored…” [17:55]).

• Memorable Moment:
  Shannon on Hall of Fame tables:

  “We go into a room in the Hall of Fame... There are certain guys at certain tables. We in the room, but we not at that table. He not even in the room. He on the outside. ‘Hey, y’all know I played, right?’” [15:37]

• Dynamic:

  • Ocho tries to bridge respect both ways:

    “It’s hard for me to sit here... the way you doing. When I saw it with my own eyes.” [24:05]

  • Shannon emphasizes critique is part of respect:

    “I’ve never had a problem critiquing any player... because I’m basing it on my intimate knowledge of the game and film study.” [25:35]

2. Ocho Responds to Cris Carter’s Comments

Timestamps: 34:00–41:41

• Context: Cris Carter is heard on another podcast questioning Chad’s touchdown totals and Hall of Fame worthiness, implying Carter often had to show Chad what to do on the field.

• Ocho’s Response:

  • Dismisses Carter’s critique:

    “What does it matter? You scored double digit touchdowns. Okay, cool. You want a cookie?” [34:46]

  • Calls out double standards regarding other players (like Julio Jones) with similar stats who are still in Hall of Fame conversations.
  • Maintains confidence:

    “I did one hell of a goddamn job. I don’t care about what you did. Why is my name even being brought up?” [35:58]

  • Throws friendly shade:

    “Matter of fact, Chris Carter, I’ll lock Chris Carter ass up right now. Talking about what he did.” [40:20] “He’s 60!... Get out here, get on the field. Line it up.” [40:29]

• Shannon’s Take:

  • Advocates for moving past such public spats:

    “We don’t got too grown. I got kids, I got grandkids. I’m not fitting to go... Look, we did what we did.” [37:12]

  • Points out Ocho’s career was unique, and Hall of Fame debates shouldn’t be reduced to one stat.

• Memorable Moment:
  Ocho, blending bravado and perspective:

  “Anybody that come on this show, I have the utmost confidence in my ability in being able to do any and everything... Matter of fact, Chris Carter, I’ll lock Chris Carter ass up right now.” [40:20]

3. Privacy and Respect: The "Russell Wilson’s Thanksgiving" Story

Timestamps: 41:55–54:31

• Context: Former NFL QB Javon Boykin describes a "weird" Thanksgiving at Russell Wilson’s home—mentioning family absence and sharing excessive personal details on a podcast.

• Shannon’s Rant:

  • Strongly condemns making private moments with teammates public for internet clout.
  • Quote:

    “That’s why you don’t let people come to your house. He invited you. He looked at you like family. And what you do? Turn around... tell them what’s happening inside this man’s home.” [43:25]

  • Stresses, “No good deed goes unpunished.” [44:53]
  • Makes it clear, “If someone is nice enough to invite you in, the last thing you do is try to paint them in a negative light.” [54:06]

• Ocho Agrees:

  • Expresses confusion about why Boykin would publicize the story:

    “We shouldn’t know anything about that at all. That’s personal information.” [48:01]

  • Further reinforces:

    “Anything I do, it always stays in-house.” [53:54]

• Memorable Exchange:

  • Shannon: “He invited you into his home. Ultra. I guarantee Russ... don’t invite a whole lot of people into his home. And the things that he get—no good deed goes unpunished.” [44:53]
  • Ocho: “I never been able to do that... it definitely not for the public.” [53:56]

4. On Coaching Changes and Player Loyalty

Timestamps: 56:52–59:36

• Brief discussion on NFL coaching turnover and the emotional bonds between players and coaches, prompted by a tribute from QB Jackson Dart to his former coach, Brian Daboll.
• Shannon: Shares heartwarming and humorous stories from his own experience, emphasizing the tight bonds and real-life impacts that go beyond stats.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Shannon Sharpe:

  “All I know is when I left the game, I had every record... Now they done came along and broke them. Gonzo broke him and Gates did this and Gronk and this and that.” [08:34]

• Chad Johnson:

  “You know what that get? Child, please.” (in response to Cris Carter’s critique) [34:37]

• Shannon Sharpe:

  “We in the room, but we not at that table. He not even in the room. He on the outside. ‘Hey, y’all know I played, right?’” [15:37]

• Ocho Cinco:

  “Anybody that come on this show... I feel I can beat them. And if you feel you can beat me... you gonna have to show me.” [40:05]

• Shannon Sharpe:

  “If someone is nice enough to invite you in, the last thing you do is to try to paint them in a negative light.” [54:06]

Segment Timestamps

• 02:30 – Asante Samuel vs. NFL Greats debate begins
• 04:43 – Why Samuel isn’t “Time,” per Shannon
• 15:37 – “Tables in the Hall of Fame” analogy
• 34:00 – Cris Carter’s criticism of Ocho, Ocho’s reply
• 40:20 – Ocho’s “lock Chris Carter up” bravado
• 41:55 – Russell Wilson Thanksgiving story − privacy rant
• 53:54 – Ocho on keeping things “in-house”

Conclusion

This episode is a masterclass in authentic, heated, yet ultimately respectful locker-room debate. Both hosts fiercely defend their views on player legacies, respect their craft, and tackle the question of when (and how) to speak your mind versus when to show respect and keep things private. Ocho’s quick wit balances Shannon’s bombastic honesty, producing moments both hilarious and insightful—a must-listen for football fans and sports debaters alike.