Best of March Madness Part 1: DOUBT AJ Dybantsa No. 1 HYPE after Texas UPSETS BYU, Hubert Davis needs to be FIRED ASAP after upset to VCU

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Best of March Madness Part 1: DOUBT AJ Dybantsa No. 1 HYPE after Texas UPSETS BYU, Hubert Davis needs to be FIRED ASAP after upset to VCU

Date: March 24, 2026
Host(s): Uncle Joe (Shannon Sharpe), Ocho, Joe
Theme: Recap and deep dive into the early rounds of the 2026 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament, major upsets, tournament narratives, coaching controversies, NBA draft prospects, and listeners' bracket banter.

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Episode Overview

This episode of Club Shay Shay is a spirited, fast-paced breakdown of the March Madness 2026 opening rounds, focusing on shocking upsets, coaching futures, standout performances, and plenty of bracket talk. Uncle Joe, Ocho, and Joe mix analysis, personal stories, and classic banter as they dissect high drama in college basketball.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. North Carolina’s Collapse vs. VCU & The Hubert Davis Debate

• UNC blows 19-point 2nd half lead, loses to VCU 82-78 in OT

  • Historic collapse discussed in the context of UNC’s recent tournament failures under Coach Hubert Davis, especially with a history of early exits.
  • Uncle Joe and Ocho debate whether Hubert Davis should remain head coach, after another high-profile postseason meltdown.

• The Caleb Wilson Factor

  • UNC’s top player (Caleb Wilson) was out injured, but panel notes the lead was built without him.
  • “That’s 20 and 10. You can’t make that up.” – Ocho (05:40)
  • Uncle Joe insists lack of in-game adjustments is the main reason for the loss, not Wilson’s absence.

• Coaching & Adjustments

  • Uncle Joe: “You see a guy heating up, that’s rule number one: get the ball out of his hands.” (06:32)
  • Critiques on Davis’ inability to stop VCU's Hill Jr., who led the comeback.
  • Analogy to NFL: you always try to slow down the hot hand, whether in basketball or football.

• Discussion on UNC's prestige and recruiting struggles

  • Are the Tar Heels falling behind Duke and Kentucky due to NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) money, NBA talent pipelines, and lack of high-profile signings?
  • “I’m not so sure North Carolina, just the Tar Heel and the Jumpman brand... I’m not so sure that’s enough anymore, guys.” – Uncle Joe (19:12)
  • NIL and transfer portal are changing the landscape; simple tradition isn’t enough to attract elite recruits.

Notable Quote:
“Given... that’s Carolina, that’s Coach Smith, that’s Roy [Williams]’s place... For them to be floundering around and losing... that’s unacceptable." – Uncle Joe (08:33)

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2. Duke Narrowly Survives Sienna: Boozer Brothers & Tournament Trends

• Duke avoids a historic first-round upset by rallying past No. 16 Sienna after trailing by 13 at halftime

  • Historical perspective: only the 8th time a #1 seed’s margin of victory vs. a 16 was six points or fewer.
  • “Duke got lucky today... If they were playing anybody else, they’d have lost that game.” – Joe (30:26)
  • Cameron Boozer (and his twin) play prominent roles, with Duke relying heavily on interior dominance.

• Traveling fandom and "survive and advance"

  • Discusses how big-name programs (Duke, UNC, Alabama in football) always bring big crowds.
  • Neutral sites favor programs with strong traveling fans.

• Concerns for Duke's title prospects

  • Despite talent, the team did not look impressive; panel predicts early exit for the Blue Devils.

Notable Quote:
“But dude, what did they say? What’s the thing—‘Survive and advance.’ That’s exactly what Duke did.” – Uncle Joe (34:03)

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3. Texas Upsets BYU & AJ Dybantsa’s NBA Hype

• Texas upsets BYU; BYU's AJ Dybantsa puts up 35 in a losing effort

  • BYU’s season (and likely Dybantsa’s college career) ends despite his standout play.
  • Panel argues Dybantsa should go #1 overall in the NBA draft.
    • “I’m taking AJ Dybantsa... I think there’s too many red flags for Peterson.” – Uncle Joe (35:06).
  • Discussion about NBA Draft lottery: skepticism about Utah potentially "rigging" for local talent.

• NBA Draft System Riff

  • Talks on "ping pong balls" lottery and historic oddities.
  • If Utah wins the #1 pick, suspicion will be raised.

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4. Major Upsets: High Point Stuns Wisconsin

• No. 12 High Point upsets No. 5 Wisconsin, 83-82, on last-second layup

  • High Point's Chase Johnson notches the winner with 11.7 seconds left.
  • “High Point messed a lot of people’s brackets up.” – Uncle Joe (46:14)
  • Banter around nobody knowing where "High Point" is, except it’s in NC and famous for furniture.

• Bracket talk and razzing between hosts

  • Tournament upsets are wrecking brackets; banter over who’s in the lead, and talking trash about each other’s picks.

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5. Arkansas vs. Hawaii & Next Matchups

• Arkansas breezes past Hawaii, sets up clash with High Point
  • “We had all five starters in double figures... we playing great basketball, you hear me?" – Ocho (47:56)
  • Discusses Arkansas’ team focus, defense-first identity, and matchup with High Point.

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6. Deeper Tournament Reflections & College Basketball Evolution

• Discussion: Why top basketball and football recruits pick certain programs

  • “It’s about the money now… We not going to North Carolina just because Michael Jordan went there.” – Joe (15:39)
  • Big programs’ transition to the NIL era; old-school recruiting pitches are outdated.

• NBA Player Pipeline/Development

  • Coaches’ ability to get players “NBA or NFL ready” is critical.
  • Duke, Kentucky, Alabama, Ohio State are dominating the modern recruiting arms race.

• Shifting College Landscape

  • “You remember Alabama? Remember how Alabama had that thing... [where] five-stars just kept coming?” – Uncle Joe (20:04)
  • Importance of patience, star turnover, and winning tradition in both sports.

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7. Second-Round & Earlier Rounds Game Highlights

• Gonzaga and Kennesaw State

  • Discussion of Gonzaga’s win, shot selection, and expectations.
  • Bench performances, key playmakers, and bracket implications.

• Personal Stories & Villainy

  • Asides where the hosts poke fun at themselves, their fame, and how internet/“the street committee” reacts to controversies.

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8. Deep Dive: Duke, NBA Prospects & College Stars

• Cameron Boozer’s star turn

  • Blooms in the second half for Duke.
  • “It ain’t nothing flashy about his game... kind of on some Tim Duncan type stuff... but it’s effective.” – Ocho (68:12)
  • Debate whether he's ahead of his father, Carlos Boozer, as a freshman.

• One-and-dones and college legacies

  • Difference between Christian Laettner’s college legacy and modern stars like Kyrie Irving, Grant Hill, Zion Williamson.
  • “You can make a case that Christian Laettner is a top five college player of all time.” – Uncle Joe (74:20)
  • Acknowledgement of changing times—now guys are gone after one year.

• Who’s the best Duke player ever?

  • As college player: Laettner.
  • As pro: Grant Hill (before injuries).

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Memorable Quotes

• “I just think…there’s no question in my mind they can get somebody better than Hubert Davis at UNC. That’s still a premium program. That’s a blue blood.” – Uncle Joe (08:10)
• “I’m not so sure North Carolina, just the Tar Heel and the Jumpman brand... I’m not so sure that's enough anymore, guys.” – Uncle Joe (19:12)
• “Given... that’s Carolina, that's Coach Smith, that's Roy... For them to be floundering around and losing... that's unacceptable." – Uncle Joe (08:33)
• “Duke got lucky today... If they were playing anybody else, they’d have lost that game.” – Joe (30:26)
• “It’s about the money now… We not going to North Carolina just because Michael Jordan went there.” – Joe (15:39)
• “You can make a case that Christian Laettner is a top five college player of all time.” – Uncle Joe (74:20)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:01] UNC vs. VCU collapse & the Hubert Davis hot seat
• [04:48–07:30] In-game adjustments (or lack thereof) & Hill Jr.’s heroics
• [08:09–14:46] UNC’s declining prestige, NIL, and the recruiting arms race
• [28:40] Duke-Sienna scare; Boozer brothers and historical context
• [34:50] Texas upsets BYU; A.J. Dybantsa's NBA draft stock
• [38:09] High Point stuns Wisconsin; bracket chaos and trash talk
• [47:06] Arkansas defeats Hawaii; previews and matchups
• [66:20] Cameron Boozer breakout; comparisons to his father
• [73:02] All-time Duke greats: Laettner’s college legacy vs. pros like Grant Hill
• [74:20] “Top five college player all time” argument

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Additional Highlights

• The panel's playful jabs at each other's picks, bracket standings, and basketball knowledge add to the episode’s lively energy.
• Insights into how modern college basketball has shifted due to NIL, the transfer portal, and the “NBA readiness” pipeline.
• Behind-the-scenes stories: Uncle Joe recounts becoming a North Carolina fan in the ‘80s and weighs MJ vs. LeBron—the hosts briefly wander off-topic but quickly circle back to the tourney.

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Tone and Style

The conversation is fast, witty, and unfiltered, combining hard basketball analysis with nostalgic stories, humor, and real-time reactions. The hosts embody the "barbershop" tone: loud debates, sharp personalities, and mutual respect with occasional roasting.

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Summary Table

| Segment | Topic / Game | Timestamp | |-----------------------|---------------------------------------------|-----------| | UNC Collapse | VCU comeback, Hubert Davis & Tar Heel malaise | 03:01 | | Duke's Narrow Escape | Sienna first-round upset scare | 28:40 | | BYU vs Texas | AJ Dybantsa’s NBA draft hype | 34:50 | | High Point Stuns Wisconsin | Bracket-busting upset, mascots & trash talk | 38:09 | | Arkansas Advances | Hawaii win, focus on defense & next round | 47:06 | | Boozer’s Duke Heroics | 2nd round dominance & NBA comparisons | 66:20 | | Duke Legends Debate | Laettner, Grant Hill, one-and-dones | 73:02 |

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If you missed this episode, you’ll walk away with:

• A sharp review of the top storylines from March Madness opening weekend
• Insight into the evolving landscape of college recruiting and coaching
• A clear sense of the current “winners and losers” in both tournament play and the NBA draft race
• Several laugh-out-loud story swaps and bracket jokes

March Madness 2026: It’s unpredictable, it’s personal... and it’s Club Shay Shay at its best.

Transcript

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[Uncle Joe]

hello, it's your favorite sports unc here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you so please subscribe or you're going to make Ocho cry. Number 11 seed the VC man erased the 19 point DEF to stun the 6 seeded North Carolina Tar Heels by the score of 8278 in overtime. The Rams pulled off their 6th biggest comeback in tournament history. The second largest second half comeback behind Nevada 22 point rally against Cincinnati in 2018. For the third time in the last four seasons, the Tar Heels have failed to reach the round of 32 under Hubert Davis. Hubert Davis biggest blown lead he had a 15 point lead his first year at Carolina. Joe and Ocho in the national championship game. He coughed that up in 2023. He missed it in 2024. Number one CD lost in this week 162025 first round loss, 2026 first round loss and the first round loss this year after having a 19 point lead. I hate saying this Joe, I really do, but after watching what Hubert Davis. I mean they went out early in the ACC tournament, lost Clemson. They lose in the first round of happening after having a 19 point lead and it's continued. It's a continuation. And watch him sit on the sideline and make no adjustments. Yeah, because if you watch Hill Jr. He gets it going. They don't trap him, they don't blitz him, they don't do anything to get the ball out of hand and they let him continuously play one on one. That's on the coach. What did, how did, how did VCU get back into this game and ultimately win this game in overtime?

[Ocho]

ISO, I think, you know, when they got down, you know, I mean, you can look at it like the last game, you want to, you know, you want to scratch and cloud, just stay in the game or get back in the game. Okay. Ocho Jr. Got it going. And honestly this really don't surprise me, uncle Ocho, because North Carolina's best player, Caleb Wilson, he's done for the season. NBA's draft, you know what I mean?

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, I would give you that.

[Ocho]

I would see that. From Atlanta, Georgia.

[Uncle Joe]

Which one?

[Ocho]

Caleb Wilson.

[Uncle Joe]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

So he broke his.

[Uncle Joe]

He broke. Yeah, he had a, he had a hand injury, then he ended up tearing a thumb ligament, right?

[Ocho]

Yeah, for this. So that's why I'm saying that's 20 and 10. You can't, you can't make that up.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, I would concede that to you. I would concede that to you. But guess what? They had a 19 point lead without their 611. Great player. That's going to be a lottery pick. So they built a lead without him. You can't say, well, if they'd have had him because they had a 19 point lead in the second half without him. Go ahead.

[Ocho]

They clearly couldn't sustain it. They clearly sustain it. I'm saying like bcu. Hey, they crawl back in their game, bro. It was, it was impressive to watch. But yeah, I mean, North Carolina got great contribution from guys to win the game. Obviously they sub team, but without Caleb, man, I just kind of. I ain't even lie to you, uncle. I ain't really been paying attention to no Char Hills because I know they ain't gonna go far.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, for me, Joe, is that you see a guy heating up. That's rule number one. Get the ball out of his hands. Why would you continuously let him play one on one when he's beating you? He's, he's beating you off the dribble. He's getting to his spots, he's hitting the threes, and you still do absolutely nothing to get the ball out of his hands. I can see if we get trap him, Joe and Ocho and other guys start to heat up, then we're going to have to make adjustments accordingly and maybe we'll have to play this thing straight up. But to make no adjustment, Schubert Davis made no adjustments. He continues to let Hill Jr play one on one. He. And it got him beat. He had 11 in the first half. So he like, damn. He. Hey, he. Cuz he kept a minute in the first half and then when they got down, he got. Now he got 16, now he got big. I was like, bro. And when he got one on one with that big and hit that step back, I said, that's good. I said, it's over.

[Ocho]

Hey, once you give a team confidence, give him some life. Oo. It's a wrap. It's a rap. It's hard to turn. It's. It's hard to turn a team down once. Once they get rolling, once they get steamrolling. That's what happened with vcu. They confidence was through the roof.

[Uncle Joe]

Go ahead, Ocho.

[Joe]

Now, I was gonna say the, the Tar Hill game. I couldn't get it out here. Where I was in New York. Byu, Texas, Kennesaw State and Gonzaga were the two games I was able to watch. I wasn't able to see that one based on where I was, based on my location out here.

[Uncle Joe]

But if you look, I mean, a 19 point lead.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Joe Ocho as a six seed.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

But like I said, and I don't advocate, but I just think I, I just. There's no question in my mind they can get somebody better than Hubert Davis at unc. That's still a premium program. That's a blue blood.

[Ocho]

Oh yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

That's like somebody going to Oklahoma. That's like somebody going to Ohio State. That's like Alabama. That's Michigan. That's usc. That is a print, George. That is a premium program.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

And for. And for them to be floundering around and losing in the sweet 16, not even to get into the. Not even getting to the sweet 16, not even making out of the round of 32, that's unacceptable for that, for that program, for that institution. That is unacceptable.

[Ocho]

Oh yeah, because it's too they. Too prestige. They not going to, they not going to let that continue to go on. Uncle.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey.

[Joe]

Joe and un. Listen, as prestigious as they are, the history that North Carolina has and you saying him not making adjustments necessary in game, what if he doesn't have the players to make those adjustments even though you're up 19? What if he understands that if I make adjustments, it's going to put my players in certain spots with them being exposed based on who we're playing.

[Uncle Joe]

You got up 19.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

You got up 19.

[Joe]

Hold on.

[Uncle Joe]

So how did you do that?

[Joe]

Hold on. Stay with me real quick.

[Uncle Joe]

Yes, I'm here.

[Joe]

Hold on. You got up 19 early in the game, right?

[Uncle Joe]

Joe, no, it was in the second half.

[Joe]

Okay, in. Okay. In the second half. So when the other team, the opposing team makes certain adjustments that you need to. Basically, yes. So you can go up 19 and they find a way to crawl their way back into the game.

[Uncle Joe]

Yes.

[Joe]

Then what do you do?

[Uncle Joe]

You make. You get the ball out of the hot guy's hand. It's just like a receiver. If you going off. What did they do? They w. They're going to make. We. We're going to make you throw the ball to Chris Henry, rest his soul. We're going to make you throw the ball to TJ Hoosh Manzada. We're going to make you check it down. But I'll be damned if we go let oo play one on one out here. He's already got a buck fifty. And we're not trying to let him get 250. That's what you do. It's simple, right? The hot man basketball. Joe, you see this all. Joe, you know this better than anybody. Cuz you played the game at an elite level. A hot guy. They coming with the trap.

[Ocho]

Yeah, they coming.

[Uncle Joe]

They gotta get the ball out of your hands.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree with you, uncle. When. When you get a guy who get it going like that, you gotta try to turn his water off. You gotta send two. Throwing my rip. Throw a mouth rhythm, you know, make him give it up a few possessions, then let him get. Yes, but yeah, I agree with you. They didn't make no adjustments. And this is what you get, you know, when we out there competing, bro, it's hard for cats to really be like, hey, man, come on, switch. Let me get him for a minute. You know what I mean? He tying you up. Hey, that pride kick in. He just scold a few. He like, damn. Then I got him, I got him, I got him.

[Uncle Joe]

And we saw this tonight with Luca. They let Luca play one on one. I don't know what Spo was thinking. You just saw your guy score 83 less than a week ago. Yeah, so you mean to tell me you gonna let Luca play one on one? All he was doing is calling for the high pick, okay? He go, hey, he get a. What's the one they got? They just got from the Clippers? They traded from the Clippers. I. Forget it, Norman. Pow.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

I mean step back after step back after step back.

[Ocho]

When he go to make it that. When he tell you when he making that, bro, I'm talking about as deep as he shoot. He can shoot it with a Hand in his face, man. 60 points, bro.

[Uncle Joe]

60.

[Ocho]

Look, look, look what a game at fellas. Look at the score. And that's why, you know, this is what people want to see. They want to see these dudes put up these type numbers, man.

[Uncle Joe]

60. But I, I, I just, it's going to be considering Ocho and Joe.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Considering who North Carolina is. It's going to be hard for Hubert Davis to go in there and convince the alumni, the booster and the president that he should remain in this role. Given. Bro, look at the, Come on man. That's, that's Carolina, That's Carolina. That's Coach Smith.

[Joe]

That's Roy Best play out.

[Uncle Joe]

You had a 19 point ocho, that's like not there. You got a 24 point lead and then how do you go to the media and say, well we couldn't, well, you know, we was missing Carson. Well, you didn't have Carson when you built the 24 point lead.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

So what'd you do? So what, so what happened? Yeah, so you can't, if, if you, if you lose this game, if you, if it's nip and tuck, I can give you that. If you get blown out, I can give you. We don't have our best player. But you didn't have your best player and you built a 19 point lead.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

So now you can't use we didn't have our best player argument. The reason why you lost the game. You lost the game because when one team made the adjustments to cool you off, you didn't make the adjustments to get cool their best player off.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

There has to be like, okay, a chance when you play a chance. Okay, you got moves, but you got, okay, if you see where he's going, you've got the counter moves. You got the counter. You just can't keep going the same course of action. And that's what Hubert Davis did. He didn't make any adjustments. He rarely make any adjustments.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I wonder, I wonder what his recruiting class looks like. I think that that'll probably determine a lot too. You know what I'm saying? If do do is he, does he have any top guys who've committed to

[Uncle Joe]

North Carolina more most, more times than not the one and dones, they go into Duke first and foremost. Now you see Cal, you see Cal getting a bunch of them now at Arkansas where it was basically Duke and Carol, Duke and Kentucky for all the one and done. Yeah, they were getting all the one and done. So if there were 12 one and dones, those two teams had 10 of them.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Kansas might have got one. And then somebody else got arbitrarily happy.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah, right.

[Joe]

You know what he need though?

[Ocho]

Huh? Huh? What's that?

[Joe]

Instead of finding Joe, he needs to go to the boosters, go to whoever's in positions of power. I need a little bit more money to get the players. We need to, to be able to compete in these tournaments.

[Ocho]

That's why.

[Uncle Joe]

But here's the thing. Ocho and Joe, do you believe he can get you ready for the NFL? Because when they go to Ohio State, what does the track record show? Those receivers go to the NFL. Those D linemen go to the NFL. Those offensive linemen go to the NFL. Those linebackers go to the NFL. When you go to Bama, so you going to some arbitrary school. Can he get me ready to go play in the NFL? Can they get me go ready to go play in the NBA? Because that's all I'm stopping off. Yeah. I'm going to class the first semester after, after Christmas. I ain't going back to class no more.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, hey. You know what too, we know what's funny too think about it too. You look at some of these players that go to the Alabamas, especially when it comes to football. When they go to the Alabamas, they go to the Ohio states. They already prepped and NFL ready. It's just going to the right institution.

[Ocho]

Yes.

[Joe]

Fine tune all the other things and attributes that you need to be able to get to that next level. North Carolina is that type of program. All it is, is about how do I attract the players that can be NBA ready or that, that are. Can, can, can be prepped for the NBA. How do I get them to come here? If we understand how college is now with the nil money, hell, what's the one way to get them? You got to pay them. You got to pay to play. You, you winning. Now whether it's college, I mean, whether it's. Whether it's football or basketball, it money talks. This is the business now. This ain't like college in the old days. We not going to North Carolina just because Michael Jordan went there.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Just because some of the other prestige players that, that, that played the NBA went there. No, we trying to get to that bag.

[Ocho]

Hey, listen, go ahead. I think even when you look at Coach Kyle's situation, Uncle Ocho at the University of Arkansas, you know, he catered, he catered to the players. He let you know, man, I'm only playing. I'm only playing seven guys. I'm only Playing seven guys. Uncle Ocho, he'll tell him that. Yeah, that's what he telling them. Yeah, he tell them, I'm only playing seven guys. This is how it's gonna go. So you got, you know, you got a real understanding. You respect a coach, man who can be straightforward with you like that, you know what I mean? And he's like the portal. He's like the segue to the NBA for guards, bro. He got.

[Uncle Joe]

He got.

[Ocho]

I mean, he gonna have two guards go to the league this year.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah. I think the thing is, Ocho, is that if you look at Carolina's history, they haven't had a whole lot. They haven't basically, since Roy left, they haven't had that cavalcade of guys going to the NBA.

[Jacob Goldstein]

They.

[Uncle Joe]

They've been Duke because you see the Brandon Ingrams, you see the Jason Tatums, you see the Zion Williamson, you see the Cooper flag the con Canoples, you see the Jalen Johnson's, you see boom, boom, boom. Well, that's where I'm going. You saw this with Alabama, you see this with Ohio State. That's where I'm going. We understand what used to be Oklahoma doesn't get the same level of player that they once did. Yeah. USC doesn't get the same level of player they once did. So in my process, I'm thinking, okay, Joe, if Ocho, I can get a million dollars to go here, or let's just say 500,000. I get 500,000 to go here, I get 500,000 to go to Duke, or I can get 600,000 to go to North Carolina. Where am I going? Duke. Exactly.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

So unless the money is just astronomical. Yeah. Now you talking about, okay, 500, 000 versus a million. That's something that. But a hundred thousand dollars. And I know what Duke's track record is. Zion Williamson, number one overall draft pick, Brandon Ingram, number two pick, Jason Tatum, number three pick, Cooper Flag, number one overall Con. Connel. Top. Top six. Top five, top six. I see Jalen Johnson, I see all these guys year after year after year after year. I see RJ Barrett, I see Cam Reddish. Nah, bro, I'm good. I'm just being honest.

[Joe]

Look what you just said, right. So with you understanding that, right. You still want to give coach a little grace and understanding that I'm not getting the players, I need to be able to compete because everybody going to other places because the money is better.

[Uncle Joe]

He can't attract them. See, it's. He can't attract them. That's a Problem in and of itself, too.

[Joe]

Yes, sir.

[Uncle Joe]

I don't care what type of club gotta be relatable to these. If you. If you want the high roller to come.

[Joe]

What you gotta have, Ocho, they gotta have that money.

[Uncle Joe]

Boy, you gotta have them things. You gotta have. You gotta have them dumb. When you go to the club. When you go to the club, they got about 30 little things standing right out there, right. And they usher them right on in. Yes, sir. Cause those guys, when the guys see those, they gonna go in there with a bottle service. That's how it works. So you have to have something to attract them. You're not catching a lion or a tiger with an empty trap. You better throw a carcass in there, a zebra, a Elon beef or something. Something. You got to attract him with something. Hey, and I'm not so sure. North Carolina, just the Tar Heel and the Jumpman brand. I'm not so sure that's enough anymore, guys.

[Joe]

Hey, they gotta. Joe, they gotta call Mike. Mike. We need to open up a little bit more.

[Ocho]

It's the, the playing field too, even now, you know?

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Ain't really no advantages no more to go to North Carolina.

[Uncle Joe]

Nope.

[Ocho]

You know what I mean? Like, you know, if you good, if you. If you good, they gonna find you, partner.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Nowadays, it's too many. It's. It's too, too, too much going on. It's too many ways to be visible in the way the streaming thing is going. They stream everything so they ain't gonna miss you.

[Uncle Joe]

You. You remember Alabama? Remember how Alabama had had that thing on the chokehold, were five stars for about 10, 15 years.

[Joe]

Right? The receivers and running backs.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Back to back. Back to back. Matter of fact, the funny part to me is I'm confused. Why do players, especially if you look at the, the, the. The production that came out of Alabama, they had no problem sitting behind, Sitting behind each other, waiting. They turn. They could have been anywhere. They was going to find you regardless.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. When you got Mark Ingram, you got Derrick Henry, you got Alvin Kamara, you got a. Drake, Kenyan Drake. T.J. yelding.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

And you just pumping them out.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

You got to go. Because if you don't go to the NFL, you might be on the bench. That ain't gonna look good. Nah, that is not gonna look good. Hey, your freshman year, you rush for 900 yards. Your sophomore year, you a backup.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

So you got to go.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Those wide receivers, you get Julio and you get Ridley and you get Amari Cooper, because here come Jerry Judy, Here come Jalen Waddle. Here come. Hey, here come Henry Ruggs. Here come Devonte Smith. They coming. You got J. Mo. They coming. You got to leave. Yeah, it ain't that. It ain't that complicated. Yeah, you got to leave. Same thing with the DBs. Look at those DBs. They pumping them out. Certain Arnold Minka.

[Joe]

Yeah, they have some good ones.

[Ocho]

Boy, McKinney, it's a new day.

[Uncle Joe]

I'm done with North Carolina. I'm gonna find me a new team.

[Ocho]

Oh, that was your squad?

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Ocho]

Oh, man.

[Uncle Joe]

How you.

[Joe]

Oh. Where you from?

[Uncle Joe]

Well, from Georgia.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Ocho]

How is.

[Joe]

How is North Carolina your squad if you're from Georgia? You are. You just.

[Ocho]

I don't know,

[Uncle Joe]

just go way back. I first came acquainted with North Carolina. North Carolina came on my radar in 1981. They lost the national championship game to Indiana and Isaiah. That was the same night that president. The assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan's life. Okay. They lost Isaiah, Randy Whitman, Rolando Turner. Yeah. They had James Worthy. They had Jimmy Black. They lost. The next year. Guess who comes in the next year. Guy with his tongue hanging out.

[Ocho]

Jordan.

[Uncle Joe]

Yes. And guess who they play for the national championship. Georgetown and Patrick.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

So we. We go back 40 plus. I go back 40 plus years with them.

[Joe]

Hold on. I got another question. Okay, yeah, I'm glad you said that. So you became a North Carolina fan. Yeah, once when they lost to Isaiah. Them. Then Jordan came in the following year because Jordan was there. Okay, now I'm a fan of North Carolina.

[Uncle Joe]

Yes.

[Joe]

So that means you're a fan of Jordan.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, I like Jordan. Yes.

[Joe]

Okay. Okay. So who's the greatest NBA player of all time?

[Uncle Joe]

LeBron. Two things can be true. I can like Jordan, but he's Jordan. But LeBron is a better player.

[Ocho]

It's subjective. Yeah.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

But, yeah, we go back. Yeah. When Kenny Smith. And they had Sam Perkins.

[Joe]

What's Kenny Smith.

[Ocho]

James.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, the Jet. He went to North Carolina. He was on the team with. Not on that national championship team.

[Joe]

Right.

[Uncle Joe]

He was on the team with. With the year. Two years after. Two years after. Okay. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Now they had a squad. Now they had a squad. Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, when they had Rasheed Wallace and Stackhouse and Junior Reed.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, they were.

[Joe]

That.

[Uncle Joe]

We used to be loaded.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey. When they had Vince Carter and Antoine Jameson over there, too, now.

[Uncle Joe]

Yes, yes. Well, you know, Coach Smith coached him, and then he turned them over to Coach Guthrie.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Remember? Because he didn't want to Leave the coverage, bear.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, Them boy was a show.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. You MJ fan? I've been an MJ fan.

[Joe]

Yeah. I was just curious. I. I thought I had you. I thought I had you in the corner real quick.

[Advertiser]

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Discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide. Based on the February 2025 Nielsen report.

We're lost. It feels like we're going round in circles. I'm gonna ask that man for directions. Hi there. We're trying to get to the state fairgrounds.

Well, you're going to take a left at the old oak tree. Tree at this here road.

[Julian Edelman]

Nah, I'm just kidding. Let me get my phone out.

[Advertiser]

How is there signal out here?

T Mobile and US Cellular are coming together. So the network out here is huge. We get the same great signal as the city, saving a boatload with benefits. And there's a five year price guarantee too. Okay, here's the turn.

Actually, can you pull up the way to a T Mobile store?

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[Julian Edelman]

This is Julian Edelman from Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jewels. All right, real quick, take a look at yourself right now.

[Uncle Joe]

Why? What's wrong?

[Julian Edelman]

Nothing's wrong. You look like a guy running on three hours of sleep and vibes.

[Uncle Joe]

Okay, yeah, I'm tired, kind of cranky and very thirsty.

[Julian Edelman]

Congrats. Those are some of the potential signs of mild dehydration. And I bet your last bathroom break showed you another sign your body might be throwing you a penalty flag.

[Advertiser]

So what's the play?

[Julian Edelman]

Call Liquid IV hydration multiplier. One stick in water helps hydrate faster than water alone. Okay, but where's the proof? Liquid IV's clinical studies, not just a guy I know real science results you can trust.

[Uncle Joe]

Well, take a look at me now. Liquid IV is officially part of my daily hydration routine past the Firecracker Popsicle flavor.

[Julian Edelman]

Stay hydrated like a pro, not like Jack before this. Stock up on Liquid IV Hyper hydration [e-mail] and use the promo code nuthouse for 20% off your first purchase.

[Advertiser]

Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc, llc SEC Registered Advisor. Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosures available at public.com disclosures this

[Jacob Goldstein]

is Jacob Goldstein from what's yous Problem? Business software is expensive and when you buy software from lots of different companies, it's not only expensive, it gets confusing. Slow to use, hard to integrate. Odoo solves that because all Odoo software is connected on a single affordable platform. Save money without missing out on the features you need. Odoo has no hidden costs and no limit on features or data. Odoo has over 60 apps available for any needs your business might have, all at no additional charge. Everything from websites to sales to inventory to accounting. All linked and talking to each other. Check out Odoo at o d o o dot com. That's o d o o dot com

[Uncle Joe]

number one number one overall seed Duke survived number 16 Sienna by rallying. They were down 13 at the half but they come back to win by 6.71.65. The top seeded Blue Devils needed a late rally to overcome a double digit deficit. Duke became the first number one seed to trail by double digits 11 to a 16 seed at the half. Duke is the eighth number one seeded NCAA tournament history to win by six or fewer points against the 16 seed. The three of the SEP. Three of the previous seven lost their next game. The only one to went on to reach the final four, Georgetown, one by one, lost in the elite eight in 89. Was that the Princeton game? I think that might have been the Princeton game. Oklahoma 89. They won by one, lost in Sweet 16. Purdue, Michigan State, Michigan, Duke in 26. Gonzaga and Illinois. Oh, Illinois. That's when they had what you call them. That was that. That was the Ken. That was Kendall Gill and Nick Anderson there.

[Ocho]

Who is this?

[Joe]

Hey, hold on.

[Uncle Joe]

Illinois in 1989. I think Kendall Gill and Nick at Knight was on that team.

[Joe]

Kendall Gill played for the supersonics.

[Uncle Joe]

Huh?

[Ocho]

Huh?

[Joe]

Kendall Gill played for the supersonics.

[Uncle Joe]

I think. I think so.

[Ocho]

I don't remember if he did. I remember. I remember him playing for the mistaken.

[Uncle Joe]

If I'm not mistaken. I think that was the 89 team. Wasn't that Lou Henson? Yeah. Marcus Liberty. Yeah. Mr. Basketball and. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, Duke got lucky. Duke got lucky today.

[Joe]

Hey, hey. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. If Duke was playing any. Anyone else outside of Sienna, they could have lost that game.

[Ocho]

They could have lost to Sienna. See this?

[Joe]

I mean, they could have. But them goddamn boozle boys is hell to deal with.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Evans, Evans. Evans was balling too.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

But a better team, Joe. A better team outside of Sienna, they win this game. Especially being up double, double points.

[Ocho]

Well, the thing is. The thing is, Duke, they starting point guard, went down. I forgot his name, but he didn't. He ain't been playing. I think he out. Out. And when you got two freshmen in your lineup, obviously they brothers. They twin brothers. They both played well tonight, Uncle Ocho. The boozle boys, they both played well to get them boys over the hump. But if it wasn't for that. Cause it was looking shaky. I seen them down 10. I said, hold up.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, they watched him on the glass, though. They, they, they were plus 12 on the glass.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Cameron Boozer, you know, he had 22, but he hadn't been shooting the ball. He got it most of his points at the free throw line, but he's a load on the glass.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah, we're gonna load.

[Uncle Joe]

You gotta, you got. You gotta keep him off the glass now.

[Ocho]

Yeah, you gotta keep him off the glass. You gotta make him work too. You can't just let him walk down there and just stand right there on the box. Like I say, you gotta start bumping and grinding from the three point line. As soon as he crossed half court, Ocho, I'm hitting him with that shoulder. I'm catching him right at the free throw line all the way down to the block. I got to weigh you down.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah. You can't let him walk you down, though, Joe.

[Ocho]

Nah, you can't. You can't, bro.

[Uncle Joe]

You.

[Ocho]

Hey, I'm gonna tell y' all something. Any of these guys who can put the ball in the basket, these scores, especially in college, because I. When I'm watching, I'm looking how they playing defense. Obviously, when you get into, you know, the NBA, defense is a lot different, man. Guys really know how to play. They know how to bump, grind. The little nuances of the game they can get. They can get away with. But I don't know how far Duke can go, man. They didn't. They didn't really impress me today.

[Uncle Joe]

I ain't got him going to the final four. I know that. I think I got him winning maybe one more game.

[Ocho]

Yeah, that's it. It's just hard playing on that neutral site, bro. Like, you ain't really no advantage, Ojo. Yeah, that's.

[Joe]

Why do travel, Duke travel well now.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

It'll feel like a home game even though, you know, not playing, you know, at home.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, yeah. Look, all these all, you know, your Dukes and your Carolinas, teams like that, that are. That are basketball power. They're going to travel. Just, just like Ohio State and Alabama, your football powers. They're going to travel. Georgia, they're going to travel. They're going to travel.

[Ocho]

This is. Hey, and they.

[Uncle Joe]

They number one for a long, long time.

[Ocho]

Yeah. And they rank. They ranked number one. So they are number one overall. Yeah, number one overall. See? So yeah, you know, they gonna travel.

[Uncle Joe]

And you know, Coach K. I mean, Duke is synonymous with Coach K. He was there for such a long time. I remember the first time, the first night when he played for the national championship in 86. And they lost the Purvis, Leslie, when they had Tommy American and Johnny Dawkins, Jay Billis.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

And they lost the. They lost the purvis them in 86, Louisville. But. And he just been getting. He just been getting players.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Grand Hill, Thomas Hill, Christian Lake, the Cherokee, Parks, Trajan Lavish. On and on and on and on and on. Go ahead. I'm sure you want to say something.

[Joe]

No, no, I'm listening. I'm listening.

[Uncle Joe]

But. But do A. What did they say? What's the thing? Survive in advance.

[Ocho]

That's what you got to do.

[Uncle Joe]

And that's exactly what Duke dead. Number 11. Texas gets past AJ the Bonza and the BYU Cougars. 79, 71 agent. The Bonza played every minute of the game, but it wasn't enough as BYU has its season and hit probably his college career come to an end. Debonza, 35 points, was two points shy of time by use tournament record for points in the game held by Danny Ainge and Jimmy for debt. Matthias. I don't even know how to say his last name, but he had 23 and 16 for the Texas Longhorns in 33 minutes. He was 10 or 17, man, he could have had. He was 311 for the free throw line.

[Ocho]

Who was that?

[Uncle Joe]

AJ did AJ things he. You know, I'm not so sure. I'm not taking him number one overall. I think that's too me for me. Just for me now.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Somebody else might feel differently. I think there's too many red flags for Peterson. You.

[Ocho]

Oh, so you saying you taking AJ1?

[Uncle Joe]

I'm taking AJ Debonza.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Okay.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe]

What's the red flag with Peterson? Well, him taking himself out the game, not being available.

[Uncle Joe]

Yep.

[Joe]

I mean, hold on. But. But when you look. When you look at upside, though, as far as make it to the next level, who can come in? Both. Both can come in and make a difference right now, though, I think.

[Uncle Joe]

I mean, I can't. I can't teach.

[Ocho]

Six, seven, six, eight, six, nine. That boy.

[Uncle Joe]

I can't. I can't teach that. Ojo.

[Joe]

Yeah. He played well. He played well tonight. Shoot, Texas did everything they could. Goddamn. Every time he got the ball, they trapped him. They trapped him right away. Sometimes he had to get. He had to get it. He had to get the ball up off of him.

[Ocho]

Hey. Yeah. Hey. That was it. That was his last game. Fellas, we gonna catch him. We gonna catch him in July in the NBA Summer league.

[Uncle Joe]

Alabama, we catch him in summer league. Come on out here. We catch him in the summer league.

[Ocho]

That's the next time y' all gonna see that boy playing, you hear me?

[Joe]

Who got it? Who got the first pick, Joe?

[Uncle Joe]

We don't know yet.

[Ocho]

We don't know yet. But I'm gonna just be honest with you. It's a lot of guys who can still improve their draft stock. Yeah. But for the number one pick, I'm almost willing to bet whoever, whatever, whoever team get the number one pick, they picking AJ First.

[Uncle Joe]

I agree with you.

[Joe]

I think that. Listen, and I think them people know, man, I know they do everything with a little. What you call it? The ping pong balls.

[Uncle Joe]

The ping pong balls.

[Ocho]

You think they cheating?

[Joe]

Now, I'm not gonna say they cheating, Joe, but they know who f. You know what I'm saying? You know how they do.

[Ocho]

Hey, well, listen, check this out. I'm gonna be skeptical if. If Utah get the number one pick, I'm gonna be skeptical. Cause I'm like, hold on. They done kept. They done kept AJ in Utah for the past two, three years.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, I mean, think about it. He ain't go to Duke. He went to. He went to byu. Yeah. He went to byu.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, don't they. Hey, there's a reason why Utah been sitting. They started and the guys ain't playing. The guys having surgery out for the rest of the year. The NBA don't find them a half a million dollar for pulling that bull jive. Hey, they trying to increase the ping pong balls.

[Ocho]

If they get. If Utah Jazz get the number one pick, boy, I know something.

[Joe]

They gonna get it.

[Uncle Joe]

You know what? It should be everybody, hey, to keep y' all from doing this bull job, everybody get one ball. One ping pong ball. And we pull it out. We pull it out. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey, the killer part is if OKC mess around, get the number one pick.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, Lord have mercy. They don't necessarily need it, but they could. Hey, they can secure the future for a long time. They must write it. I don't even know. I don't even know what they would. Who would that trade? And they got. They got. They got chat. They got Hardenstein.

[Ocho]

They so. They so lucky right now.

[Uncle Joe]

They so deep. They guard heavy.

[Ocho]

Oh, man, I don't know. I just be thinking different scenarios. I'm like, man, listen,

[Joe]

man.

[Uncle Joe]

The number 12 High Point stuns 5th C. Wisconsin 83, 82. Chase Johnson made a two point basket of the season on the fast break layup with 11.7 seconds remaining. Johnson finished with 14 points, including four three pointers for the Panthers, who were 10 and a half point underdogs. He came in shooting 64, 132, 48 and a half percent from the three point line, but was owing four inside the arc and he had to play more minutes for an thy ticket.

[Joe]

Lady Jennifer of Coolidge.

[Advertiser]

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[Joe]

With the times.

[Advertiser]

You're Playing the loot. Yeah, and it sounds pretty good, right?

Discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide, based on the February 2025 Nielsen report.

We're lost. It feels like we're going round in circles. I'm going to ask that man for directions. Hi there. We're trying to get to the state fairgrounds.

Well, you're going to take a left at the old oak tree at this here road.

[Julian Edelman]

Nah, I'm just kidding. Let me get my phone out.

[Advertiser]

How is their signal out here?

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[Julian Edelman]

This is Julian Edelman from Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jewels. All right, real quick. Take a look at yourself right now.

[Uncle Joe]

Why? What's wrong?

[Julian Edelman]

Nothing's wrong. You look like a guy running on three hours of sleep and vibes.

[Uncle Joe]

Okay. Yeah, I'm tired, kind of cranky and very thirsty.

[Julian Edelman]

Congrats. Those are some of the potential signs of mild dehydration. And I bet your last bathroom break showed you another sign your body might be throwing you a penalty flag.

[Advertiser]

So what's the play?

[Julian Edelman]

Call Liquid IV hydration multiplier. One stick in water helps hydrate faster than water alone. Okay, but where's the proof? Liquid IV's clinical studies, not just a guy. I know real science. Results you can trust.

[Uncle Joe]

Well, take a look at me now. Liquid IV is officially part of my daily hydration routine. Pass the firecracker.

[Advertiser]

Popsicle flavor.

[Julian Edelman]

Stay hydrated like a pro, not like Jack before this. Stock up on Liquid IV hydration [e-mail] and use the promo code nuthouse for 20% off your first purchase.

[Advertiser]

Support for the show comes from public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On public. You can build A multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc. SEC Registered Advisor. Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete Disclosure is available at public.com disclosure

[Jacob Goldstein]

this is Jacob Goldstein from what's yous Problem? Business software is expensive and when you buy software from lots of different companies, it's not only expensive, it gets confusing. Slow to use, hard to integrate. Odoo solves that because all Odoo software is connected on a single affordable platform. Save money without missing out on the features you need. Odoo has no hidden costs and no limit on features or data. Odoo has over 60 apps available for any needs your business might have, all at no additional charge. Everything from websites to sales to inventory to accounting. All linked and talking to each other. Check out Odoo at O D O o dot com. That's O D O O dot com

[Uncle Joe]

six that are more points without making a two point shot than any other player in the country. Man,

[Ocho]

I tell y' all Wisconsin.

[Joe]

Hey, high point with bowling, huh?

[Ocho]

I tell y' all what? Yeah, high point was one of y'

[Uncle Joe]

all had Ocho had High Point. I think he just looking at mascot.

[Joe]

I told you hey, what I was doing.

[Uncle Joe]

He just look at that mascot.

[Joe]

Hey, no, I know. Hey, I seen Rob Martin play. Yeah, that. That maybe I seen right?

[Uncle Joe]

You don't even know what high point is.

[Joe]

Huh?

[Uncle Joe]

You don't even know what high point is.

[Joe]

It's insane. Wait, I don't know. You know I don't know where it's at.

[Uncle Joe]

It's in North Carolina. You didn't know where it was? Yeah, hey, it used to be known as the Furniture Capital of the world. Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, I bet you. I bet your bracket all messed up now.

[Uncle Joe]

We didn't pick nobody pick High Point.

[Ocho]

Yes, man, nobody.

[Uncle Joe]

But I know who picked St. Louis to be Georgia.

[Ocho]

Who? Did you really edit up the ass?

[Uncle Joe]

You're ash a hater, man. Man, you have somebody work for you to be hate.

[Joe]

What your bracket look like now?

[Ocho]

I don't know. So I gotta take a look at it. I gotta take a look at it. But I didn't. I wouldn't.

[Uncle Joe]

We gonna show brackets at the end, but I'm looking pretty good. I know I'm looking better than y' all two.

[Joe]

No, no, no, no, no, no. My bracket's still intact.

[Uncle Joe]

Your bracket is intact.

[Ocho]

Hey, look, while you talking about High Point, that's who we got next. That's who the Razorbacks got next.

[Joe]

Oh, y' all better do something. Y' all in trouble, Joe.

[Ocho]

What you mean we're in trouble?

[Joe]

Yeah, y' all in trouble, Joe.

[Ocho]

Hey, Ocho, you remember them blinders you talking about?

[Joe]

Yes, sir.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, hey, tunnel vision, baby.

[Uncle Joe]

We focus. You hear me?

[Joe]

I know. Listen, I know y' all focus, Joe, but who gonna deal with Rob Martin?

[Ocho]

Joe, man, listen. Hey, look, we ain't worried about that.

[Joe]

I'm just saying they got something for acuff.

[Ocho]

What they got? Cause they know ain't nobody had the recipe. Tell me what it is.

[Joe]

I mean, they got the recipe, man.

[Ocho]

Please. Okay. Hey, hey, hey.

[Uncle Joe]

We.

[Ocho]

Hey.

[Uncle Joe]

We.

[Ocho]

We. We. We fast, athletic.

[Uncle Joe]

We.

[Ocho]

Cause Ruckus put you in. Put you in uncomfortable situations. Un. Oo We. You know, we. We playing good ball. Man, them dudes look good out there. Boy, don't raise the back.

[Uncle Joe]

Look focused. Why you High Point? I mean, look, I know where High Point is. As a matter of fact, Burn son went to High Point. I think it's like a. Like a. A designer school.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

You know. Yeah. For, like, interior design and things like that.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, guess who they gonna design on, huh?

[Uncle Joe]

It's kind of like in the High point of, like, a artsy school.

[Ocho]

They a. I know they had some boys eating that glass.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. They had 40 rebounds at 30. They didn't get to beat that bad on the glass. They just, you know, Wisconsin didn't put them away when they had a chance to. Had 22. I mean, 27. Blackwell had 22. Rap had 12. But High Point had five guys and double figures.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Yep.

[Ocho]

Yeah, we locked in.

[Uncle Joe]

But I know High Point messed a lot of people. Brackets up.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Oh, I know they did that. Of course they did.

[Uncle Joe]

Who? Oh, his high school was High Point. He from North Carolina? No, he went to Kentucky. High Point is the first Big south team to win an NCAA tournament game since 2018, first four, when Radford defeated Long Island. The Panthers are also the first Big south team to defeat a higher seed since the number 11, Winthrop, defeated number five, Notre Dame in the round of 64 in 2007. Yeah, I've been in that High Point.

[Ocho]

Hey, really?

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, it was called.

[Joe]

I don't.

[Ocho]

I don't know.

[Uncle Joe]

I don't know. I think somebody told me that, but it used to be called the furniture capital of the world because all the big furniture, you can just go there and you get it at wholesale, whatever you want.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Yep. Anybody. Anybody from North High Point? Is it still called a furniture capital or as a. Has the. The. The crisis. The housing crisis? Did that destroy. Still is. Okay. All right. Darius Acuff scores 24 of the Arkansas breezes past Hawaii 97. 78. There's, of course, Acuff Jr. Had 24 points and seven assists. Arkansas moves on to face number 12, high point in the second round of the West Regional.

[Ocho]

Nah, I mean. Hey, Ocho, look, we had all. All five starters in double figures today.

[Joe]

Yes, sir.

[Ocho]

That means we playing great basketball. You hear me?

[Joe]

You know, High Point had five started. I mean, four. Four starters and double figures and somebody off the bench in double figures.

[Ocho]

That mean. Look, we had 20. We had 26 assists. That mean we. That mean we making plays for everybody.

[Uncle Joe]

You feel me?

[Joe]

Okay.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We gonna be hard to guard, too. I don't know what you talking about. You talking about them? What about us?

[Uncle Joe]

Okay.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah. Y' all nice. Y' all been nice all year.

[Ocho]

Joe, what you say?

[Uncle Joe]

Y' all gonna have to shoot that three ball better. Y' all was four. 19 from the three.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what. See, what it is. See, we hang our hat on our defense. Our defense, you know, it. It puts our offense in overdrive. You feel what I'm saying? Because we get turnovers, we get stops. And offensively, even though we got young guys at the helm at the point guard spot, we don't turn the ball over, bro. We. We value every possession. We understand the moment, man. Dude. Hey, they ready. We locked in.

[Uncle Joe]

All right, so they locked in. Ocho, it sound.

[Joe]

Hey, it sound good. Hey, win that game when they play

[Uncle Joe]

Saturday.

[Ocho]

Saturday. Yeah.

[Joe]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, I'm. See you on the show, Joe.

[Uncle Joe]

Saturday.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

You know who's from High Point?

[Ocho]

Boom.

[Uncle Joe]

Fantasia.

[Joe]

Oh, I know. She grew up In a good church over there.

[Uncle Joe]

Boy, I don't know about the church, but I just know she's my point.

[Joe]

Yeah. I mean, I'm just saying. Hey, to sing like that.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Her and Jasmine Sullivan.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Uncle Joe]

All right, let's check the brackets. Let's check the brackets.

[Ocho]

Let me see.

[Joe]

We forgot a game.

[Uncle Joe]

You heard me, huh?

[Ocho]

What? We forgot, man.

[Joe]

Got the Kennesaw State game.

[Uncle Joe]

Tell us about it. Go ahead. So who's on? Okay, okay, okay. That's my brackets on the top. So let's go get. I had Duke, Louisville, Michigan State, Vanderbilt, Nebraska, Carolina. You. Sorry. Houston. And I had Illinois. I had Arkansas, Gonzaga, Michigan, St. Louis. Next one is Ocho. Yeah, Ocho. Ocho had Duke, Louisville, Michigan State. He won with Nebraska. He won with Illinois. He won with Texas A M. And with Houston. He won with St. Louis, Michigan and Arkansas.

[Ocho]

Joe, what we got? I'm winning.

[Uncle Joe]

I don't know, Joe. No, you're not,

[Ocho]

O.J. why you laughing so hard?

[Uncle Joe]

You and I, though, Joe. You had Duke, you had Louisville, you had Michigan State, you had Vanderbilt, you had Nebraska, you had A M. You had Houston. Yeah. You had BYU going a long way. Joe, Dinner. Yeah, you did. Damn. Arkansas, Gonzaga, St. Louis and Michigan. So you had 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11. You had 12 wins. Oh, Joe. Ocho had 1, 2, 3, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten wins. And I had 1, 2, 3,4, 5, 6, 7, eight, nine, ten, eleven wins. Oh, I'm winning right now. Joe is in first place with 12 wins. I got 11oo half.

[Joe]

Don't worry about it.

[Ocho]

Hey, Chad. Chad.

[Joe]

There you go.

[Uncle Joe]

There you go. You doing too much.

[Ocho]

Can I talk to chat,

[Uncle Joe]

Chad?

[Ocho]

Hey, listen. Hey, the man don't play by me, okay? Huh? I'm locked in on these boys, man. These boy can't beat me at nothing.

[Uncle Joe]

I'm locked in, Joe. That's the first round first.

[Joe]

We got a long way to go, Joe.

[Ocho]

I really was talking to Chad. You and Ocho just happened to be on here. I'm talking to Chad. Me and Chad having a conversation. Y' all just so happened to be on here.

[Uncle Joe]

But like I said, baby, there you go. I had

[Joe]

North Carolina mess you up, huh?

[Uncle Joe]

No, I. I had him. I had him to win, but then I'm having to had him lose the next round to Illinois.

[Joe]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Ocho]

I ain't worried about OO. Yeah, he picking mascots over there. We good.

[Uncle Joe]

Ocho. You got North Carolina. You got North Carolina to be had. Illinois got them going on pass.

[Joe]

My bad.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. I can't believe I was just going

[Joe]

up, you know, Prestigious school known for basketball, you know, making it foreign tournaments, you know? I mean, listen.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, we know you picked the mascots.

[Joe]

My bad.

[Uncle Joe]

Okay, Ocho, you want to tell us about the Gonzaga game?

[Ocho]

Hold on.

[Joe]

Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Joe. Hey, listen to my basketball prowess.

[Ocho]

Let me see what you got. Let me hear you out.

[Joe]

Yeah, Let me know when you're ready.

[Ocho]

Go ahead. I'm listening.

[Joe]

Oh. So listen, the. The Zags. The Zags Owls game, it was good. Obviously, Kennesaw State, being a team, that's not as good as the Zags. Right, Joe? I mean, like.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Joe]

You understand what I'm talking about? So every possession matters, every offensive play matters. You know, you. When you choose to shoot the ball, shot selection matters. Moving the ball around, keeping everybody moving. Finding the right plays, finding the right shots. Boom. You win in the game. Yeah, you was winning the game. But obviously, the better team, the Zags, you know, they. They came back and won. But what. What I want to say is, right, the thing is, I can't remember the. The big center. I think his last name was Ike Eke.

[Ocho]

I I K E For Kennesaw.

[Joe]

For the Zag.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, boy, he was here to deal with down in that block. Yeah, yeah. They was fighting. We're trying to find. They were swinging the ball and finding. When he could. He had his way down there. Then they had. They had a young bull on the Zags too. He kept hitting the goddamn three. He was number four.

[Ocho]

Yeah, it came off the bench. He came off the bench getting money.

[Joe]

He getting money at the arc, and he putting that ball in the flow, getting to a spot every time.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I know. I don't think I got Gonzaga going far. I know they always discipline Uncle Ojo when they play, you know, they gonna play a. A good, disciplined game, but, you know, I don't think I got them going that far.

[Joe]

Hey, that's not fair, man. Too, man.

[Uncle Joe]

Kennesaw State. Hey, you know, Kennesaw State. That's Joe. That's. That's us. That's naked right down the street up there.

[Ocho]

Well, let me see. Oh, King Ice. Hey, listen, man. Hey, look. Hey, look. Hey, let me tell you. Let me tell you. Ocho something, man. We're coming up on the year, us hanging out. You know, it's gonna. April gonna give us a year. And. And until the other day, we had been on the. You know, everything had been on the up and up.

[Uncle Joe]

We had all been all good.

[Ocho]

You know what I mean?

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean, Joe.

[Ocho]

It's just when I, when somebody tried me, I understand. I, I, you know, I gotta put the smackdown. I gotta put out a mean demonstration. And I hate for you for it

[Uncle Joe]

to even go that way.

[Ocho]

I really do.

[Joe]

Hey, you know what? You, you. Hey, Joe, you ever grew up with siblings?

[Ocho]

Nope. I'm only child.

[Joe]

You ever grew uncle. You grew up with siblings, huh?

[Uncle Joe]

Man, you know, I got a brother and a sister.

[Joe]

Okay, So y', all, y', all, Y' all get into it sometime. Y' all go through a little quarrel sometime, huh?

[Uncle Joe]

Man, look at this, man. They got, they got all kind of stuff up there with you.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah, look at this one.

[Uncle Joe]

Look at this one. Ocho.

[Ocho]

Hey, Ocho. Ocho, I understand where you coming from? We just having a little riff, but we gonna, we gonna go and get our little fade out the way we still love each other, but we gotta get that fade.

[Joe]

Yo, listen, listen, Joe. I love you like a brother, Joe. I love you like a brother. You know? You feel me? I love you like you're my son. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You gonna get this work, though.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, why?

[Joe]

Why I'm getting hit.

[Ocho]

That was gonna happen. Hell you talking about?

[Uncle Joe]

What you think, what you thought was gonna happen?

[Joe]

It ain't gonna happen like that. I, I ain't got. Listen, I got disciplined discipline in that ring. My hand definitely ain't gonna be down like that.

[Ocho]

I got discipline too, bro. That's the thing.

[Uncle Joe]

So, man, they got, they got Joe. They got Joe with a row. Atlanta Hawk Roll. Big Street Joe Johnson. Hey, hey, joe. Hey, joe, look at this one. They got a oo, Man, they got PO. They call it poo poo.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, Joe. You finna feel my rat, Joe? Are you gonna feel my rap, man?

[Uncle Joe]

Joe, I think, I think, I think Joe to hide got his own personal graphics team.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, that's the perfect picture he needs too. Here.

[Joe]

Well, me. Hey, Joe. Listen, Joe, I don't lie or anything I say is from. Is life experience. It's things that I've experienced in life, Joe.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

I got you. I got you, bro. I got you.

[Joe]

I love you. I love you like a brother. But you're gonna feel like you're fighting two people when you get in there with me, though, I can tell you.

[Uncle Joe]

That's funny.

[Joe]

I don't like the people on the outside. They take everything so serious.

[Uncle Joe]

Like people bad looking.

[Joe]

We family. What are y'. All. Yeah, they writing. Think Pieces. And they writing a thing.

[Ocho]

Oh, they, they.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, but oo. You got off easy. They had me on the shade room. They had me on the Jasmine brand. They had me on everything. Don't love his kids. He don't love his family. Now I see why he's single. I said, I have no problem. I just said, oh, Joe. Should have gave Joe a heads up. But then, then it came out. What actually happened. The hate room. And ain't nobody put nothing up there. Ain't nobody said nothing. I said, well, damn. Hey, you. So I'm trying to figure out y' all deduced I hate my kids. I think I did a. I think me and the moms did a pretty good job. We got three college graduates. Last one is in residency, got another year of residency. She'll be afford a real doctor. I thought we did a pretty good job. I don't love our kids. I hate my kids. I don't like my family. I see why he's single. And everybody that probably said that, single just like me, they're making Jojo. They make it seem like me and you the only ones that ain't married. Everybody else, Everybody else that be in the chat being married.

[Joe]

Hey, 80 people. People. Hey, people. People in the chat, they going through the same problems we go through.

[Uncle Joe]

Of course.

[Joe]

Name everything. I don't know why everybody be trying to act like they all perfect.

[Uncle Joe]

And they do.

[Joe]

We just happen to live ours in front of everybody else.

[Uncle Joe]

That's. That's it. I was like, bro, y' all take this way too serious. Yeah, it ain't that serious.

[Joe]

Not. It's not.

[Uncle Joe]

But I, I, you know what?

[Joe]

But hey, you know, you know what it is, though.

[Uncle Joe]

Go ahead, Ocho. What is it?

[Joe]

Hey, Uncle Joe.

[Uncle Joe]

What was that?

[Joe]

What it is, it's great. It's great entertainment. It's organic. It's authentic. It's authentic. Nothing is scripted. These things are happening. They're recurring in real time.

[Uncle Joe]

Yes.

[Joe]

You know that situation, it was real.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, it was real.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

But we get on here. We talk about it. We jib, we jab at it. You know, you get on me.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I accept accountability. It's a real situation. But then we keep going. But we do it in an entertaining format.

[Ocho]

Right, right, right.

[Joe]

But everybody, they take it so serious. Oh, my God.

[Uncle Joe]

And he did this.

[Joe]

If I was. If I was so and so, I wouldn't. I wouldn't mess with Ocho no more. Wait a minute.

[Ocho]

I mean, hey, hey. I mean, they kind of got some points, though. I mean, I could I can kind of see where they coming from a little bit. You know what I mean?

[Uncle Joe]

I ain't gonna. You can understand. You might not agree with it, but you understand that joke.

[Ocho]

Gotta see where they coming from.

[Joe]

Listen, hey, Joe. I don't. I don't. Because they don't live in no glass house. They ain't no better than me.

[Uncle Joe]

I. I think. Look, a part of them. Some of them do. Some of them not happy for us. Oo.

[Joe]

Oh, they not.

[Uncle Joe]

I think the vast majority. Look, because I think the thing is this. This. The street committee. That's what I call the Internet.

[Joe]

Yes, sir.

[Uncle Joe]

Yes, sir. But for the most part, when you see somebody out there, it's all positive. Yeah, when I see people out there, it's all positive. Yes, Joe. You see people, it's all positive. I don't get nothing negative. But on here.

[Ocho]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

I don't get it. Only thing is, Twitter and ig, I don't get. I don't have. I mean, I ain't looked at Facebook in a hundred years, but that's what it is. But all I'm saying is, if you get something wrong, you know, be mad enough to a woman enough to say, you know what, I was wrong.

[Ocho]

Right?

[Uncle Joe]

But the Shade Room, you got it wrong. But instead of saying you got it wrong, you pretend like y' all didn't hear nothing. Jasmine, Brandon, everybody else that ran with it, like y' all ran with it, come on back. Hey, that's all we ask you to do, to come on back. When Ocho gets something wrong, he'll say, oh, I was wrong with it. I get something wrong. I'm wrong with that. But you take a clip because you can tell the people that watch Nightcap regularly. He's like, y' all missing the point.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Ocho had asked for the tickets. Okay. Say okay. Said he shouldn't have gone to the thing. Unc said he should have just gave Joe the heads up. That's all I was saying.

[Joe]

Right.

[Uncle Joe]

But they took it. Man don't love his kid. That's why he went to the game. He went, hey, no, I would. I don't really. I don't really schedule anything. Listen, but we ought to do this.

[Joe]

I was like, hey, I tell you what.

[Uncle Joe]

What?

[Joe]

There's a reason why we the best is out there for sure. And you can't replicate it.

[Uncle Joe]

Nope.

[Joe]

Hey, listen. Hey, Uncle Joe, we ain't got to talk about nobody. We ain't got negative to get the views to be entertaining. Everything is organic. The stories are real, man. Hey, but Joe. But, but after I see all that, I'm. You still gonna get these hands, though.

[Uncle Joe]

I give you prime guys. I give you prime example. Everybody that had a pod, what did they talk about? The hottest story, the trending story was Kenyon. Yeah, we didn't talk about that. Cuz I don't feel like. I don't feel. I didn't feel that. If we want, if you want to talk about it. Oo, we could have talked about it, but I don't feel I have anything to. To add. I didn't feel like I had anything to add to it.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

All this other stuff that was going on, we don't talk about. We don't talk about other people because I think there's enough stuff happening that we can talk about that without mentioning them.

[Ocho]

Yeah, absolutely right.

[Uncle Joe]

People don't want to hear you constantly talk about Shannon Sharp or Stephen A. Smith. They want to hear you talk about you. You're a sports show, so talk about some sports. Yeah, hell, I ain't played sports in a quarter of a century. But that's what makes us unique. We talk about sports, we can make things entertaining. We take the simplest things and make it very, very entertaining. People want to be entertained. At the end of the day, people want to be entertained, but they don't want to be entertaining while you constantly trying to berate somebody and put somebody down.

[Ocho]

There you go.

[Uncle Joe]

That's the thing. Okay?

[Advertiser]

I.

[Uncle Joe]

Hell, I ain't did anything entertaining or quite some time plan on keeping it that way.

[Joe]

You hear me?

[Ocho]

You say what?

[Joe]

Let me take care of the entertaining part. Let me be the villain. That, that's. That's my spiel. I'll be the bad guy.

[Uncle Joe]

Ocho, they taking things that we said in like the first. Like I said in the first month, and you. And I was joking. In the first month of the show. Yes, sir. They playing it now. And people say, see, that's why it happened. Yeah, bro, I said that three years ago. But because you take the clips, you want paint, paint, Try to paint me in a negative light and people don't know any better. Because if it's up there, if I post. If we post something today, people gonna assume it was said today or yesterday. Yeah, they're not looking to see you, man. Man, he said that about not going to girl's house three years ago. Yeah, why y' all talking about it now? But I get it. It took me a while to understand. I was like, I see what you're trying to do. Y' all Realize what the algorithm is. Y' all know who's in the algorithm. Mention his name, people gonna click. Hey, Shannon Sharp won an Oscar. Click. Shannon Sharp was walking down the street, the car broke down. Click. It is what it is. It is what it is now. OO so we just got to accept that we just got it. Joe, I'm sorry that we roped you into it, but. But, but you. You a part of it now. So anything that OO and I do,

[Ocho]

the guilty by association.

[Uncle Joe]

You guilty by association. Duke Blast TCU about a score of 81 to 58 is the tail of two halves for Cameron Boozer. Yeah, in the first two minutes. In the first two points, he was 01 on field. The first half, two points on 01 field goal and plus on the minus. Plus. Minus of minus 5 and 15 minutes. In the second half, he was 17 points on 7 or 9, shooting plus 20 in 19 minutes. Joe, he got it going in the second half, and you can see they had it going. They didn't need him to do a whole lot. But I mean, they shot 55 from the floor. They shot 87% from the two point. The free throw line. Excuse me, 20 of 23 from the free throw line. Because they're so big, man. They're tall, huge. Boy, I mean, hey, they get offensive rebounds, they get put back. You ain't got no choice but to foul them. Yeah, and the Horn Frogs were overmatched. And, man, booze is, hey, something. Hey, he's something.

[Joe]

He started off slow, Uncle Joe. Yeah, but, boy, he made Cam Boozle. Made that thing look so easy in that second half.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

I, I think the problem is, is that when you, when, when he's struggling, you gotta put some separation between you.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

You can't be down, right? And he's struggling like he's struggling. He's giving you 22 and 10 on the season. You got him to two points. You better a. You better be. You better. You need to be in front of them by about 6 to 10 points.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I agree. I agree. What, What I noticed was, Glenn, for me is that, you know, he. He averaging what, 20. What he averaging 22, 22 again, 22 and 10. Even though he only had two points in that first half, Uncle Ocho, it wasn't like he was like 1 for 8, 1 for 9, you know what I mean?

[Uncle Joe]

He.

[Ocho]

He finished 7 for 10 from the field, so he was patient. And in the second half, he turned it up. Man, that's, that's, that's, that's Poise from a young guy, young freshman who I think is gonna have a tremendous pro career. I mean, he's. He a monster down there, bro.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, he, you know, he got the body type. Hell, he already built like his dad.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, he already built like booze.

[Joe]

And you think he, he better. He better than Pops at this stage?

[Uncle Joe]

Coming out right now? Yes.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Right now. Yes. Now will he be a better pro? I don't know. Bruce was an all star.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Turned himself as a second round pick. End up getting a big time deal from Utah.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

I don't know what he'll be. Will he be better than his dad? But if you were to project him right now, if you look at them right now and where they. He definitely better than his dad as a freshman.

[Ocho]

Hell yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Dad didn't come out, but as a freshman? Yes. Is he a better college player than that? Yes. Will he be a better pro than his dad? That remains to be seen.

[Joe]

Right.

[Uncle Joe]

But this kid can flat out there play.

[Ocho]

Yeah, he can play. It ain't. It's nothing flashy about his game. Like, ain't nothing gonna jump off the screen.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Kind of on, like on some Tim Duncan type stuff. You know what I mean? Like, he just get it done, bro. It may not look as pretty to some, but it's effective. It's effective.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. Yes. And. But Duke, I mean, you get. Malik Brown gave you 12 and you got. Sar gave you 14, and Evans gave you 17. Even Kaden Boozle who had an outstanding game the first round, he gave you nine.

[Ocho]

Yeah,

[Uncle Joe]

they got 10 points. I mean, they, they, they shoot depend on the bench. It's those starters that you have to worry about. Yeah.

[Joe]

Everybody was in double figures except one person.

[Uncle Joe]

And so that's what, that's what you have to worry about with Duke. They come at you that. Look at TC to convince those guys to play together because look, all these guys are four and five stars.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

All these guys were the guy at their prospective schools.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Now, for the greater good, we need you to sacrifice.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

It's a lot easier said than done.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Because everybody thinks they got an opportunity to be a damn lottery pick. A top five pick.

[Ocho]

Hello.

[Uncle Joe]

I can't be no top five. I can't be no top 5 pick. You know, be. You know, I need. Hey, let me get. I need to get me like 15 and 10. 15 and 8, 20 and 8. And you talking about share the ball. Hey, nah, nah. And you know, some of these guys, Joe, probably averaged 25 and 15, 30 and 8.

[Ocho]

What you talking about in high school? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's the difference. That's the difference. See, in high school, you can be the best. Cause you might be playing with less talent, you know what I mean? Once you get to college, power five, bro. Everybody on the team talented.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

You know what I mean? The cream gonna rise to the top. But for the most part, I just feel like when you get to college, you can kind of see the separating factor of a lot of guys, you know what I mean? Guys who really got that it factor, you know, they start to show it and it shows up in. In. In close, tight games, bro, and you get a cut.

[Uncle Joe]

You gotta. You gotta. You go to Duke, you was. You was a guy in college. You hear me? Yeah, they just. I mean, just like anytime you go to the big time, you go to Ohio State, you go to Alabama, you go to Georgia, you can play in high school. You a damn good high school play. Yeah. They ain't just giving them no arbitrary look. They might have a one or two guys that they did a favor to for this big booster. Somebody got a legacy scholarship or something like that. But for the most part, they top 80 guys. Yeah. They legit.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Well, you. Obviously you don't have that many guys in basketball. These guys can play.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Ain't no. Ain't no one star. Ain't walk on. He come out there on senior night and his dad said, I'm proud of your son. You stuck it out for four years. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, dude.

[Ocho]

Hey. You don't get that no more. And look, hey, you think you.

[Uncle Joe]

You think you.

[Ocho]

You think you gonna come in here and it's gonna be smooth selling them dudes put in work. We did a training camp when I played for the Brooklyn Nets. We did a training camp in Duke. And, man, they got a NBA facility, bro. This ain't no. This ain't no. No peewee stuff. You hear me?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Look, the guy. You go. You go to those programs. You know why you go there. Yes. I can get a great education in a year. In a year.

[Joe]

I'm trying to get to the.

[Uncle Joe]

Trying to be. You not gonna stay there long enough to graduate. Now, you might eventually go back and take online classes and get your degree, but you ain't getting no damn degree in no one year.

[Ocho]

Right? Right.

[Uncle Joe]

You look at all them guys. They one and done. Kyrie, one and done. Cooper flag, one and done. Zion, one and done. Ingram, one and done. Tatum, one and done.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, one and done.

[Joe]

I got one for you.

[Uncle Joe]

It ain't like it used to be with Christian Laner. They staying four years. Grant Hill, Thomas Hill, all those guys. It ain't like that no more.

[Joe]

Yeah, it was different.

[Uncle Joe]

That guy's gone. I'm coming to Duke. You know why I'm coming? Cuz I remember. Hey, I remember the coaches talking about I. They mess up your program. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't recruiting no one. And done.

[Ocho]

Okay?

[Joe]

Right.

[Uncle Joe]

John said I take them all. Coach Cal said I take them all.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Uncle Joe]

Can't beat him. Join them.

[Ocho]

You right.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, son, you wanna be one of them? Come on.

[Ocho]

Right? Hey, you gotta be the gateway to the league. You got to fall in line, you know, you got to keep up with the Joneses. These young dudes ain't trying to be in school no more than one year, whether they tell you that or not.

[Joe]

Yeah. You got to be special, though. Now.

[Uncle Joe]

I just left folk. I just left school for four. I just left school for 12 years. I was in school. How long you think I wanna do this another.

[Joe]

Absolutely not.

[Uncle Joe]

Right? Man, I'm trying to get this thing. I'm trying to be. Hey, I'm going to class until after. Until after the new year. When the new year hit, I'm done.

[Joe]

Hey, Uncle Joe.

[Ocho]

What's up?

[Joe]

But who the best to come out of Duke? But who the best Blue Devil to come out of there, play at the next level?

[Uncle Joe]

You talk about just as a college player.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Chris Leitner, Chris Leighton. Yeah. Damn.

[Joe]

Y' all answered that fast?

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. As a college player. Now you talk about who transitioned and became a. A pro, right? That remains to be seen. Probably Grant Hill had the highest ceiling.

[Joe]

Right?

[Uncle Joe]

But he got hurt. Cause Grant could do it all. He was LeBron before LeBron.

[Joe]

Right.

[Uncle Joe]

A guy that's 6 foot 8, could handle the ball, could play.

[Ocho]

Hey.

[Uncle Joe]

Could initiate the offense, was an outstanding defensive player, could score the basketball. He was going to be sensational. Obviously, injuries robbed him of that. Yeah, but as a college player, it ain't even close.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Nobody had dude close to Christian Laker.

[Joe]

I got a question. I got a question. Obviously, we know what Kyrie can do in the NBA. I didn't watch college. I didn't watch college basketball back then. So how far was Kyrie from what he is in the NBA as opposed to when he was at Duke, Was he far off or. You could already tell.

[Uncle Joe]

You got to realize Kyrie got hurt. Kyrie only played like, maybe 15 games.

[Ocho]

Yeah, that's it. Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

He got hurt.

[Ocho]

He got hurt. He hurt his foot, Ocho. He got hurt and still win number one.

[Uncle Joe]

Yes. That's how special he was.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah. But he. But when he played now he played in the second half of the season. Ocho. Now he's out there getting. Getting money. He wasn't out there bull driving now.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah. Y' all need to stop. What happened as a college player? What? Nobody close to Christian, lady.

[Joe]

Wait, who?

[Uncle Joe]

They're the college player. You can make a case that Christian Layton is a top five college player of all time. Yeah. Back to back national championship. They took down the mythical team in a unlv.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

I don't know if y' all remember that Saturday when they went up when they played lsu. Do y' all remember what they did to the Fab Five? Man, y' all better get that man his credit. I'm not saying what he transitioned into. I'm talking about as a purely college player. Nobody touching him.

[Joe]

The chat said no.

[Uncle Joe]

They talking about Grand Hill. Grant Hill was the second option to trace the Laitner. Bobby Hurley was the second option. Thomas Hill was a second option. Although Crystal Laettner and the shot that he hit against Kentucky.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, I remember that. I remember that.

[Ocho]

I know he real. He was real. He was real. He was real.

[Uncle Joe]

No, Christian Lakener was really good. I couldn't stand Duke. That joker there.

[Ocho]

Nobody could stand, dude. Hey, hey.

[Uncle Joe]

But you know that dude there. Now if you talk about like transition, like the ability. He wasn't fast, he couldn't jump. But that joker just did everything right, man. That joker back door you up and under. Get your and one. Yeah. You're big in foul trouble. Like damn.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Somebody beat them.

[Ocho]

Yeah, a Ocho.

[Uncle Joe]

And that's what happened when UNLV beat them. Beat the brakes off him in the national championship. And then the next year they come back and I bet damn if they didn't beat. They didn't beat. They didn't beat UNLV in the national championship because we knew that was going to be the next. That was the national championship right there.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

And then he followed up again and got it back to back.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah. My.

[Uncle Joe]

When the last time you saw team go back to back. Hell, Duke might be the last team to go. Florida. Florida. Florida.

[Ocho]

Horford. Florida.

[Uncle Joe]

Florida.

[Joe]

Florida.

[Uncle Joe]

What? 0607.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah. But that's hard to go back to back.

[Uncle Joe]

Had Yokim Noah, Corey Brewer.

[Ocho]

Yeah, they had a nice. They had a nice squad.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, it a it, man. It's hard to go. It's hard to go back to back in college.

[Joe]

Gone.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, especially it ain't like it used to be where guys actually stayed all four years.

[Joe]

Right.

[Uncle Joe]

Them guys gone. I won the national championship and I'm the guy.

[Ocho]

Ah.

[Uncle Joe]

I mean for Florida, for, for, for, for Al Horford and Keem and Brewer. For them to come back and try to do it again.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Boy. Hey, they really love the college life, guys.

[Ocho]

You hear me?

[Uncle Joe]

Most of them guys, they gone because

[Ocho]

they weren't even getting nil back then. They all.

[Joe]

I mean, for what we know, man,

[Uncle Joe]

UConn went back to back, right? Did Yukon go back to back?

[Ocho]

Is it?

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. So UConn went back to back 23, 24. Florida went back to back what, 06 07. And then did anybody go back to back in the 90s other than Duke?

[Ocho]

Nah, my Razorbacks, they went to the championship game back to back. But we lost to UCLA in 95.

[Uncle Joe]

95. Yeah. That's when they had the Obama boy.

[Ocho]

Yep, yep.

[Uncle Joe]

And Ty's Edney, right?

[Ocho]

Yep. Yeah. You know a little something something, don't you? That boy be locked in over there on it.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, man. You know, y' all had Todd Day and Cortis Williamson. Y' all had a lot little quad though.

[Ocho]

Yeah, they had some hard working boys, boy. Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

But hell, Coach Richardson, you had to have no choice but to be hard working.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

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