Best of NBA News Part 1: LeBron James CALLING OUT Jaylen Brown talking TRASH about Bronny, NBA sends their OWN Doctors to check Lauri Markkanen’s Injury

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Best of NBA News Part 1

Date: March 1, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe (“Joe”)
Co-Hosts/Guests: Uncle Ocho, Guest Analyst

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Episode Overview

This episode of Club Shay Shay dives deep into several hot NBA topics, fronted by Shannon Sharpe and co-hosts. The main themes include LeBron James responding to Jaylen Brown’s comments about Bronny, the NBA’s evolving approach to ‘load management’ and player injuries amid tanking suspicions, Anthony Edwards’ viral hotel critique, and spirited debates on Team USA’s basketball future. The episode rounds out with classic banter about competitiveness, NBA culture, and even food.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. LeBron James Responds to Jaylen Brown’s Comments on Bronny James

Timestamps: 03:35–11:52

• LeBron's Comments: Shannon (“Joe”) introduces a clip where LeBron addresses Jaylen Brown’s remarks about Bronny. He calls their relationship “respectful,” though not sidestepping some summer league “trash talk.”
• Parent-Child Dynamic in the NBA: The hosts compare defending your child—even if they’re an NBA player—to any parent’s instinct.

  “At the end of the day, whether or not LeBron James is good enough to be in the NBA, that's still his son…when somebody says something about them, you feel some type of way. Yes or no?” (Joe, 05:54)

• Media Savvy and NBA Criticism: The cast highlights LeBron’s careful answers dealing with controversy since every word “catches fire.”

  “He has to be careful. And he very media savvy in the way he answers any...questions.” (Joe, 04:45)

• Cultural Double Standard: Joe and Ocho point out how nepotism is accepted elsewhere (e.g., Jerry Jones’ kids with the Cowboys) but is questioned in Black athletes.

  “They help their kids get ahead, but we're supposed to feel bad if we help our kids get ahead?” (Joe, 09:34)

• Unique Father-Son NBA Pairing: Ocho praises LeBron for supporting Bronny and for giving Jaylen Brown his “flowers” as an MVP candidate.

  “Heavy is the head that wears the crown, fellas. This comes with the territory...We've never seen a father son duo teammates actually cross over...” (Uncle Ocho, 10:01–10:25)

• Jaylen Brown’s MVP-Level Play: Discussion pivots to Brown’s growth and performance, with both giving him credit for keeping the Celtics strong amid injuries.

2. Dynamics of NBA Criticism and Competition

Timestamps: 13:25–16:12

• Criticism from Peers vs. Media: The crew explores how entering the NBA’s “upper echelon” turns players and even their families into “fair game”—not just fan or media targets but peer targets, too.
• Comparison with NBA Legends: LeBron’s approachability is contrasted with Jordan and Kobe’s “singular focus” and lack of friendships during their careers.

  “Kobe became friendly after he retired.” (Joe, 15:19)

• Competitive Edge: Extended anecdotes discuss Michael Jordan’s legendary competitiveness, both on and off the court (gambling stories follow).

3. Jaylen Brown: The League’s Best Two-Way Player?

Timestamps: 28:07–31:32

• Brown’s Two-Way Dominance: Consensus that Jaylen Brown has earned “best two-way player” status for his nightly commitment and scoring surge.

  “Yeah, I'm gonna say yeah. Ankin Ocho, he makes it a point to own his matchup night in and night out…and offensively, he following it up with 30 a night.” (Uncle Ocho, 28:08)

• Celtics’ Supporting Cast: Shout-outs to Hauser, Derrick White, Vucevic, and Peyton Pritchard.
• Player Mindset: Brown’s motivation is linked to doubt about his ability to lead following JT (Jayson Tatum)’s injury and Team USA snub.

4. Anthony Edwards Critiques Memphis Hotels

Timestamps: 39:01–41:47

• Anthony Edwards’ Comments: AE goes viral for saying “Memphis hotel rooms are dirty” based on a negative experience.

  “When I go to Memphis, I'll be like, damn, this ish be dirty. I walked in Memphis hotel one time, it has stained and ish on the bed. Come on, man...” (Joe quoting Edwards, 39:01)

• Impact of NBA Star Reviews: Hosts note a bad experience from a star can damage even elite hotel reputations.
• Hotel “Best Practices”: Shannon shares his routine for ensuring good housekeeping via consistent tipping.

5. NBA Investigation of Lauri Markkanen's Injury and Tanking Concerns

Timestamps: 53:16–56:23

• NBA Sends Independent Doctors: The league took the unusual step of sending its own medical evaluators to verify Lauri Markkanen’s injury with the Jazz, suspecting possible “tanking” motives.

  “This tank of stuff, man. It got out of hand. And I think that's what the NBA think. That's why they...sending our own doctors down there to check on Larry Markkanen.” (Uncle Ocho, 53:29)

• Load Management, Less Games & Player Pay: Hosts debate the push for fewer games versus players wanting full salaries.

  “They want less games, but we still want to make 70, 80 million dollars. NBA said, oh, no, hell, y' all.” (Joe, 55:01)

• Advancement in Player Support: The evolution from past eras’ equipment, nutrition, and medical care into today’s high-tech standards.

6. US Olympic Basketball: Who Makes the 2028 Team?

Timestamps: 71:44–81:18

• Kevin Durant’s Future: KD clarifies he’s open to playing for Team USA in 2028, contrary to rumors he’d retire, emphasizing he wants to earn his spot.

  “You guys. The media have projected that narrative...I want to still prove I can help the team win. KD makes the team, he’ll be sure a couple of...months shy of 40.” (Joe quoting KD, 71:44)

• Roster Debates: ESPN’s 2028 lineup prediction—Cooper Flagg, Duren, Almond Thompson, Scotty Barnes, Cade Cunningham, Anthony Edwards, Chet Holmgren, Jalen Williams, Tyrese Haliburton, Bam Adebayo, Jason Tatum—sparks concerns about US lacking “big Americans” to match foreign stars like Jokic or Wembanyama.

  “Who gonna do something with Yoke? Who gonna do something with Wimby?... We ain't really got no big Americans.” (Joe & Uncle Ocho, 74:14–74:52)

• Changing Global Landscape: Hosts acknowledge the rest of the world—especially Europe—has caught up to the U.S. in basketball.

  “The world has caught up to us fellas in basketball...Playing under those FIBA rules, it’s a whole different game.” (Uncle Ocho & Joe, 78:02)

• Cultural Critique: KD addresses claims that US grassroots basketball (AAU) is to blame for decline, calling it “bull jive...a shot at black America.”

  “All I hear is AAU is destroying the game. The Euros do it right while the Americans do it wrong. It's a lot of bull jive...It's a shot at black America. We're controlling the sport. They're tired of us controlling the sports.” (Joe quoting KD, 78:22)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Parenting in Pro Sports:

  “The only unconditional love is a parent on the child.” (Joe, 06:54)

• On Being a Two-Way Star:

  “He’s taking the challenge every night on both ends of the floor…and he’s done it at a very, very high level.” (Uncle Ocho, 30:44)

• On Competitiveness:

  “Kobe didn’t care about nothing…Kobe became friendly after he retired.” (Joe, 15:17–15:19) “Michael Jordan…He don’t do anything for fun.” (Joe, 17:00)

• On NBA Investigations:

  “NBA said, man, y’ all full of it. That's why they sending people down there... We gonna be able to determine this here.” (Joe, 53:48–55:02)

• On the Olympic Dream Team Era vs. Now:

  “When they played in 92, you couldn’t find a foreigner in the top 25. The top seven, eight players in the NBA currently are foreigners.” (Joe, 80:01)

• On AAU and Basketball Culture:

  “It's a lot of bull jive with that... It's a shot at black America. We're controlling the sport.” (Joe quoting KD, 78:28)

• Banter About Food:

  “I want some dry rub ribs.” (Joe, 44:12)

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Fun & Memorable Sidebars

• Competitive Gambling Stories: Hilarious and eye-opening stories about Michael Jordan’s never-ending drive to win at cards, golf, and even flipping coins. (15:50–22:00)
• Hotel Tipping Practices: Shannon’s elaborate strategy to guarantee clean hotel rooms involving $30–$40 tips every day. (40:27–41:14)
• Food Obsessions & Rib Lore: Lively back and forth about barbecue, favorite restaurants, and rib preferences. (43:00–47:00)
• Injury War Stories: Both hosts recount gnarly injuries and surgeries, culminating in “18 screws, 3 plates in my face.” (67:23–71:28)

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For the next episode…

Expect further NBA debates, stories from the heart of sports culture, and more off-beat but relatable banter.

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Transcript

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[Uncle Ocho]

Uhoh.

[Guest Analyst]

I think you just use the motivation of a lot of people just saying that they're going to have a down year because of, you know, obviously JT being out, you know, them losing, Drew, Al, you know, Le Pringis leaves their whole championship team pretty much is kind of revamped. And he uses motivation to keep them afloat. They playing great basketball. And it's because of him and the rest of those guys, he's. He's taking that next step. You know, our relationship has been, you know, pretty respectful, you know, besides the shit he said about Bronnie at summer league.

[Uncle Ocho]

But other than that.

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[Joe]

But other than that, other than that, you know, we've been all right.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

You know, we guys get past that,

[Joe]

you know, we'll be all right. We'd be all right. Yeah, we'd be all right.

[Guest Analyst]

I think he went on, he went on social media and said something about it.

[Joe]

It's all good.

[Guest Analyst]

But Ronnie got a long way to go, but that's another story, so. But the kid, I mean, listen, JB is doing shit. He's playing great basketball, man, and you can't even. You can't fall this out on, you know, this whole MVP thing. I don't understand why his name is not getting talked about some as well. Like nobody gave them a shot to start the season and he's having what, 30? Yeah, just under 30?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Guest Analyst]

Just under 30?

[Sponsor Announcer]

Yeah.

[Guest Analyst]

It's a popularity contest sometimes.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

That's dope. That's dope. That's how you answer a question as a true professional, despite some of the things that might have been said, you know, about your son. Hey, our relationship, it's respectful. I mean, most of the time, it's hard to gauge how someone truly feels, especially when cameras are in front of him, because anything LeBron says, you know, it catches fire. So he has to be careful. And he very media savvy in the way he answers any. The way he answers questions. So based on what we just saw and what we just heard, you would think it was no problems at all, despite some of the things that JB might have said? Hell, when it comes to basketball, yes, he's playing well. What is he supposed to say? He playing bad because he's not even with JT out. He's the reason why the Celtics are doing as well as they're doing with the supporting cast that JB has now. Even with the stuff he said about my son. Ah, that's a whole different question that he's not going to answer truthfully on camera.

[Joe]

Well, I mean, you know, he, he, he. He kind of got into it, but this is what, this is what I don't understand. Joe, help me understand. Yeah, Joe, you got kids, Ocho, you got kids? I got kids. Yeah. Let's just say you got your son. He a mess up. If a co worker says something about it, you're gonna feel some type of way.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Joe]

I don't know why people can't get that through their head.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Right.

[Joe]

At the end of the day, Whether or not LeBron James is good enough to be in the NBA, that's still his son. So imagine a lot of you guys out there got effort for sons and daughters. When somebody says something about them, you feel some type of way. Yes or no? It's a simple. It's a simple yes or simple no. Because I know I would feel some about. Feel some type of way if somebody said something about my kid that's still his kid.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Joe]

I don't know why people. It's true. It could be true. But if somebody says something about your kid, are you going to be okay with that? Or you gonna be saying, hey, they told the truth. Your son go to jail, your son get popped, your daughter get pregnant as a teenager, you okay? If a co worker, someone you know, says something about your child, are you gonna be okay? No, but because it's LeBron James, y' all like, oh, he blowed it out of proportion. At the end of the day, the only condition unconditional love is a parent on the child.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Because you love your child regardless, it doesn't come well in a relationship. Well, as long as you don't. As long as you take care of me, as long as you don't cheat on me, long as you don't believe. And I get, I get it. But a parent and a child is a different type of relationship than a relationship with someone that you start outside. And I don't know why people can't understand that.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

And also, Joe, before you go, I need people to also understand now, even though it is your child, once you get and you reach that pinnacle of being an NBA player, sometimes even your peers were criticized. Not just your father, but hell, your son can get it too. It gets to that point to where now you're fair game because now you're at the upper echelon of the childhood dream, the NBA. So therefore the criticizing gonna come not just from fans, hell, not just from media, but from your peers as well.

[Joe]

Let me ask you a question, Ocho, talk to me. How old can your kids be before someone can criticize them and you be cool with it?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Oh, never that.

[Bowen Yang]

Huh?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

You know that better than that. Never that. No, but I'm. No, no, no, wait, wait, listen. No, that's not what I was saying. Like I was saying, understand what comes with the territory. Once you do that of said being in the NBA. That's all.

[Joe]

I don't, I don't, I don't condone at all, Joe. Even though, even though oo. It comes with the territory. And we know. Yeah, it's the same thing. It's the. And people like, well, you said this about Russ. I never played the music about Russ. I talked about Russ about the ill advised shots, the costly turnover, the matador defense. And people try to compare me saying Russ was not playing good basketball. Russ isn't the same player that he once was. As the guy that sent Russ wife and talked about Russ in the same breath. How is that the same. Yeah, it's not. All I'm saying is, is that look, yes, LeBron knows that there are some criticism that's going to come. They criticize LeBron and he just got more points than anybody in the history of the game. He's about to play the most games in the history of the game. He has the fifth most assist. Nobody that's in the top 10 couldn't even. Nobody's in the top 20 comes close to LeBron. As far as assist, he understands that. But at the end of the day, there's still a place that's my child, and I'm going to protect my child. It is what it is. And it's us that somehow, Ocho, I thought that's what we do. See, we the only ones that feel bad about helping our child get ahead in life.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

They do it all the time where Jerry Jones kids work at, Joe.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

The Cowboys.

[Joe]

What, you mean to tell me your dad can help you get ahead? How many times have we seen that? They help their kids get ahead, but we're supposed to feel bad if we help our kids get ahead?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Right, Right.

[Joe]

Right. Damn it. If my kids wanted to work in media, you best believe they got a job. And somebody might not have one, but they gonna have one. Hey, go ahead, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, listen, I think it goes back, you know, to the last time I was on here with y'.

[Guest Analyst]

All.

[Uncle Ocho]

Heavy is the head that wears the crown, fellas.

[Joe]

Absolutely.

[Uncle Ocho]

This is part. Hey, look, this. This comes with the territory, Uncle. I know what you're saying. Yep. That's my child. And I'm gonna defend him every chance I get. You say something about him because we're in a. We're in a funny stage to where in hoops, we've never seen this combination before. We've never seen a father son duo's

[Joe]

teammates actually cross over.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. So we've never.

[Joe]

At the same time. And they're on the same team.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hello. So look, now we having to deal with this in real time. And obviously, you know, Bronny gonna have people shooting at him. It's just what it is. He's LeBron's son. He's gonna get everybody's a game. Every time he touched the floor, he got a target on his back.

[Joe]

Yes. That's what it is.

[Uncle Ocho]

And he has to be aware of that. And I just think, man, it's unfortunate, but I love the fact that LeBron gave Jaylen Brown his props, his flowers.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know what I mean?

[Joe]

Can. I didn't approve of what he said, but he's an MVP candidate. He played his ass off.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely. Absolutely. Because they came into LA last night

[Joe]

and put on the show breaks off him.

[Uncle Ocho]

You hear me?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Peyton Pritchard. Oh, you still. You. Hey, Ocho, you still think you could take Peyton Pritchard?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, boy. Hey, young boy. Nice, huh?

[Joe]

You heard me.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, hey, hey. Hey, Joe. Hey, boy. Mr. Pritchard. Nice, ain't.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, he get to that money Ocho.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And that's the thing. You look at him. Hey, you look at him and he'll go. He'll go to a Rucker park and drop 30 or 40 on somebody here.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Cause they looking at like, oh, man. Man, that little white dude ain't about to do nothing. Yeah. You know, his team got 140 and he got 50 of them.

[Uncle Ocho]

Man, look, that boy, what. He had 30, 30 something off the bench. He came in, getting straight to it. Austin got. Hey, look, I know we. We didn't gave them they props, but Boston gonna be in the thick of. Man, they. They've been looking good. As of late, they've been looking good.

[Joe]

I'll give you. I'll give you another example, the same thing, what people say about Magic. I had Magic on the show.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I asked him, you know, and I was like, magic, when did you. When did you know that your son. That EJ wasn't gonna be a basketball player, he wasn't gonna play football. He's like. He like, sharp. You know, there were signs. We saw things that, you know, he didn't want to play with trucks. He didn't want to do things. And people want Magic to disown his son because he chose a life that's different than what was a heterosexual man.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah. Hell no. Hell no.

[Joe]

Magic say I. Hey, Magic say I. I believe in God, too, but that's my son.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Joe]

If I got. If one. If one of my kids chose to live a different lifestyle. Yeah. Guess what? I talk that up. I take that up with God when I get up there with him.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe]

They ain't got nothing to do with y' all down here, right? Hey, whatever God got in store for me and my now, yeah. I'll take it up with him once I get up there.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah, most definitely. I mean, I. Obviously, you. You can't.

[Joe]

That's. That's.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

That's one thing. Regardless of.

[Uncle Ocho]

Of.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Of what they choose to be, it might be against your will. It might be against what you. Maybe something you didn't want, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I ain't disowning nothing. Now, whatever you decide to do now, what you're not going to do, if you go, if you're going to be whatever it is, whatever you identify as, you better be the best at it. Don't you embarrass me, man. Don't you half ass it. Now. If you're gonna be gay, you better be the best of gay out there.

[Joe]

Whatever you want to do, you be

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

the best, you better be the best.

[Joe]

At it. Don't embarrass me,

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

but you better be one of the best at it.

[Joe]

Because how many times. How many times, guys have we heard, boy, that child can't do nothing wrong in his mama dad eyes. Boy, that child, Abe, that child is terrible. But mom and dad can't see. Can't see no fault in their own child.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Right?

[Joe]

We've all been there. I'm like, damn, my kid really that bad? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they that bad. But I look, I like that. I agree with you, Ocho Joe. That comes along with the territory. What comes along with the territory? That when you play a professional sport, they're going to come. Criticism.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Joe]

From peers, being from the media, whatever the case may be. It doesn't make it any easier because a lot of times, Joe, you said something very interesting. You said, hey, they're gonna go at him. Well, if I can't get your dad, I'm gonna tell your kid ass up. Yeah, that's, that's the only way. Because remember, I told you, oh, sure, the dude couldn't beat my brother. So he tried, so he tried to get you. Yeah, yeah. They could never do, do anything with LeBron. So they go, they go at Bronnie.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Joe]

That's, that's, that's just the way it is. I had it a high school when playing sports. Oh, you stirred a little brother. Okay. Yeah, I'm his little brother. But don't sleep now. Yeah, I' ma light y' all ass up, too. But, but look, I think, you know what? You know, sometimes closeness brings resentment. You see, Jordan didn't get this kind of resentment.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right.

[Joe]

Because they wasn't nobody close to him.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right.

[Joe]

Kobe didn't get his kind of vitriol because when nobody close to him. And one of the things that people say about LeBron is that what he wants to be friendly. He wants to be like, hey, so

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I just, I, I, you know, it's the fact that you just said that Jordan wasn't friendly. Huh?

[Joe]

Hell no.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Nah, Kobe wasn't friendly. Well, I know Kobe wasn't friendly.

[Joe]

Kobe became friendly after he retired.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. They ain't care nothing about having no friends. Okay?

[Joe]

No, and Jordan still, Jordan still ain't got a whole lot of friends. Jordan messed with like oak. That's really the only dude that Jordan still rock with.

[Uncle Ocho]

Man, listen, Jordan over there having a ball over there.

[Joe]

Nascar, he went back to back race in Daytona and in Hampton.

[Uncle Ocho]

He said, I'm tired of basketball. I'm going to nas. It is.

[Joe]

But but no, no, no, no, no. Jordan. No, no, no, no. Jordan. Jordan, don't join me. Give a D. Kobe. Kobe didn't care about nothing.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on. Wait. Wait a minute. I'm confused. Let's. Let's separate the two now. I'm talking about on the court. I know they don't get. They don't care nothing about that.

[Joe]

I'm talking about off the court either. Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Some sharks, boy.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, hey, Joe. I mean. I mean, honestly, my personality, it wouldn't allow me to live like that on the field. Yes, Even on the field, I was fun, entertaining. But I'm a kid. I'm gonna kill you. Like, my mentality was, I'm going at your heart as a player, but I can't have that same mentality off. Like, I gotta talk, have fun, hang out. But what y' all doing? You want to go smoke money? You know, whatever it may be. But the fact that they were really

[Joe]

like that outside of basketball, they had a singular focus.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Joe]

They couldn't all the time, and they couldn't turn it off.

[Uncle Ocho]

They couldn't turn it off, couldn't turn out. It doesn't matter. Look, if you playing cards, if you. Whatever you playing, they. They want to kill you in it, Ocho. That's just how it is. Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe]

Jordan bet everything. He. He not gonna do anything for fun. Ain't nothing. Ain't nothing for fun. Ain't no shooting no pool for fun.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

It ain't no shoot.

[Joe]

Ain't no playing no cards for fun. It ain't playing no golf for fun. It ain't nothing. He don't do anything for fun.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey. He wanna see how. He wanna see how you work under pressure. Yeah, everybody don't work good under pressure. Uncan Ocho, it busts pipes, but he can make diamonds as well. Everybody don't work on the work well under pressure.

[Joe]

And it's even worse when the money in your pocket. See, if I. We ain't got the money at the playoffs, Ocho. You know what I'm saying? But just imagine. Just imagine you had to put the money that you receive in the playoffs.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You had to put it up. And then if you got it, you. If. If you won, they doubled it, they gave it back to you. So Jordan gonna put a. Let's bet 50,000 on this hand, huh?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

50 what?

[Joe]

55 on a hand.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Yeah. Bye. That's the only hand you gonna get. Bye.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right.

[Joe]

Jamal Crawford told the story. Dude had money, wanted to bet Jordan a Hundred thousand.

[Uncle Ocho]

Let's flip for it.

[Joe]

George say, I ain't got a whole lot of time. Let's flip for it. And I know he said, no, I'm good. I ain't got a whole lot of time. I'm in a bit of a hurry. Go ahead, call it. Flip for it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey. Dude, love the gamble, man. He love to gamble anything that's competitive.

[Joe]

Yes, yes, that's. And I think that's how him and Oak bonded, because Oak love to gamble, man. They say, oh, Cars, they love playing Blu Ray. They love playing guts. Joy. I mean, Jordan, go to the.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

He.

[Joe]

They love that. I ain't got it. Lo Cho, man, listen, I'm telling you, boy, you make mistakes, man. Yeah. Cause they ain't no chips. They got real cash stacked up there. Yeah, see, like, when you got chip Ocho, you don't look at. You don't see it sometimes. You don't see it as money.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Right, right.

[Joe]

But when you actually got money, you got fifty, a hundred, two hundred thousand, a quarter of a million on that table.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, we. Yeah, man, Stop. It hit a little different.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Okay? Hey, I can't even fathom. I can visualize and what y' all saying, but I can't fathom sitting at a table with 20, 50,000 in chips. 100,000, 50,000 in chips. I mean. I mean. I mean, where they do that at? I mean, I understand people. I understand people do it because they have, you know, their vices, but, man. Hey, Joe, what's up? When I go to Vegas, a hundred dollars is my limit. Maybe 200 on the blackjack table, $25 table.

[Uncle Ocho]

Joe, you ain't gonna win. You ain't winning nothing with that.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, Joe. It ain't. Hey, I like the small win, Joe. To go in there with 100 and leave with 400, that's a win to me. Joe. I know it ain't gonna move the needle, but just the fact that I don't gamble. But I will try it every blue moon. I only go to Vegas maybe once, twice a year, Joe. That ain't bad. That's not an addiction.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I call that circumstance. I just happen to be there.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right? You don't gamble in Vegas?

[Joe]

No, I hadn't. I hadn't actually been to a table and probably sat at a table probably in 20 years. Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, no. I come to Vegas now, I'm get a little gambling, and I ain't gonna. If I lose, 1000 do. I'm done. That's. That's my limit.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Okay, Joe. Okay.

[Joe]

Quarter slots.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, I'm playing. I'm playing. I'm shooting craps. I might play a little blackjack, but I ain't, I ain't. I ain't going too crazy.

[Joe]

Excuse me. Yeah, you see, you try to. Y', all, you look, you, you the same kind of gamble, you want to load up on the 6 and 8, you gonna try to play.

[Uncle Ocho]

But hold up, why y' all playing, though? I, I, I was at. I was staying at the Win one night, and I won 27,000 with this little playing blackjack.

[Joe]

27,000.

[Uncle Ocho]

Shooting dice.

[Joe]

Three card poker.

[Uncle Ocho]

I was shooting dice on the crap table.

[Joe]

Oh, you. Oh, yeah, okay. You on the crap table.

[Uncle Ocho]

I was on the dice. No, no, lie. I was on the DICE probably about 35, 40 minutes.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Is it hot like that, Joe?

[Uncle Ocho]

Man, I had built it up to where I had about 4, 500 on almost every point, and I just kept rolling. So listen, hold on, though. When I won, when I had initially won, 29,000. So once I won that, I started taking all my money off the board. I was like, you know what? I know I ain't gonna be this hot too long.

[Joe]

When I fall off.

[Uncle Ocho]

When I fall off, I'm walking out the door, right? Took my money, I was gone.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah. The thing is, you bet. You bet it the hard way. You bet. Cause they give you odds, what, 8 to 1, 10 to 1. All those 6 and 8.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So you get the hard 8, which you roll. 4. 4, you get a hard 6. 3. 3, you get 10. You know, a 5 and 5. Yes, sir, you are 5 and 9.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, look, you just want to roll numbers. You just want to stay on the dice.

[Joe]

That's. That's all. You want to. Just roll the number. Just roll the number, man. What?

[Uncle Ocho]

Kill them, Ocho.

[Joe]

Hey, I bet if we being burned go to the table, we betting somebody crap out. What are we doing here? Like, bro, this ain't a team sport. We not. We not team. I bet you crap you did not pass the dice. Hey, you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, Ocho. Ocho. Oh, y' all don't play no poker or nothing? I play.

[Joe]

I used to. I used to play. I used to play poker. I played in the World Series of Poker one time.

[Uncle Ocho]

Did you really?

[Joe]

I did, yeah.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Joe, you'll be mad at me.

[Joe]

Joe, you can't play no poker.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Joe, I don't even understand the game, boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man, Joe.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I gotta rely on the people sitting next to me when I'm playing blackjack and rely on the dealer. If I don't have nobody there.

[Joe]

Oh, I don't know. You go to the wrong. You go to the right. You go to the wrong casino, they don't let you talk.

[Uncle Ocho]

You can't do that, Right? Right. Huh?

[Joe]

They don't let you go to the wrong casino, they won't let you. You can't talk for real.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

The only casino I go to is. Is Vegas, you know, the Hard Rock, right here.

[Joe]

Down the street, there's a lot of casinos. You got the win. You got Ari, you got Hard Rock.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah, I don't know about them.

[Joe]

You got the Palms.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, hey, Joe. And that's a good thing too, for me, Joe, is the fact that I don' the games that are in the casino, right? So there's really no interest in me wanting to play a. Let alone gamble. So not only am I cheap as hell, I don't understand the goddamn game. They got no way blackjack for me. I play a little 100, 200, 225, $25 games. Simply because I just know I gotta get. I gotta be the dealer. That's all I know.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right? Okay, okay.

[Joe]

Well, I mean, look, look, I don't like the shoe. I like. I like single deck or double deck. When they start getting to that shoe, they got six deck.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I don't really.

[Joe]

Oh, I don't really care too much about it for that shoe. That shoe, man. That shoe have you messed up. But the thing is about. But with blackjack, one bad play can mess up the whole shoe, man. And you just get your. You get your head, bust the whole. For the rest of that shoe. Somebody take a. Somebody take a car. Take the dealer bus card.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, you mad at them on it. You start a fight over there. That's why I don't really play blackjack too much.

[Joe]

Don't even worry about it. That's why I picked my money. I'm going somewhere because. Hey. Because sometimes, man, I be feeling like they brought this dude in here to F the game up. I'm like, oh, I play black. I'll go play blackjack. Sometimes I play three pow guy. I'll play three car poker. Oh, I play crab. That's all. I play no roulette, they play the shots, they just play slot machine. I ain't got time for that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Y' all play the roulette, you just bet on the color.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hell, no, no, no. Hey, hey, hey. Roulette, that's the one. The table go around in the circle. They say bet on red, right?

[Joe]

You better. What? I mean, you could bet Red or black? But you're gonna come out better betting the number, though.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I'm at. Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. I don't like that. Hey, hey, Joe. I don't like to bet no money where I'm not in complete control of the outcome if I'm not in complete control.

[Joe]

Because the car don't know you.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

No, I'm just saying, in general, that's why I don't like gambling, because the outcome is not in my control.

[Joe]

And them dice damn sure don't know you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely not, man.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Absolutely not.

[Joe]

But no, we got to go to banks. Oh, Joe, when you come out here. Cause I'm gonna go to. I'm one night. I'm gonna have. What's it called? I'm go to the. I'm gonna go with Dana. I'm gonna go to casino with Dana. Dana be playing a hundred thousand hand. Two hundred.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'll be watching y'.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

All.

[Joe]

What you think I'll be doing? Hey, I play 100. 200. Not no thousand. Hell, no. Hey, I would.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I would. I would love to be there just to watch that. Just. Just to see it in person. Just. Just to see it in person again. Knowing you got it, but you'd never do it, but see other people do it because they got it and could afford to lose it. I can't recoup no 200,000. You know how long I got to work to recoup 200,000? Joe, man. Hey, I ain't catching no touchdown, Joe.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, Joe. Ocho. We had to go out there and gamble with uncle a little bit. Just a little bit. Just a little bit. Just a little bit.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

How much we talking?

[Uncle Ocho]

I told you, huh?

[Joe]

10K.

[Uncle Ocho]

That boy ain't spending no 10K like the devil is.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, Joe, I didn't have these same pants on for goddamn two months. You think I'm gonna spend 10K at the casino?

[Joe]

We gonna hit him. Hey, me, you, Me. You and Joe go. Go to the crap table. It's just gonna be us at the crap table by ourselves.

[Bowen Yang]

Nah.

[Joe]

Hey, we betting all the points. I'm gonna be on the dice. Cause you know the. Call me snake. I will. I call the dice for you. Stop rolling.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, hey, hey. And Joe, you know, if they know. If they know we coming. If they hear we coming, they gonna fix the table so we walk out of the house. Oh, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

They gonna fix the table so we

[Joe]

walk out of the table. They don't know we coming, huh? They don't know we coming. Hey, I bring. I bring my cash. We bring it to. I bring my own cash. Hey, change them out for chips. Or you can say, hey, money plays.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, that's not a good idea. That's not a good idea. They say the house never loses. That's what I heard.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, you watch too much tv, Ojo.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Well, I saw the Gambler.

[Joe]

Hey, you saw the Gambler Smith?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I seen the Gambler. I seen him with Mark Wahlberg. Yes, sir.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I don't want that to be me. I don't want that to be me. You don't know when to stop. Now you're owing people money because you're trying to get yourself out of debt and get out the hole. I don't want to get beat up cause I owed a shark.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, nah, nah.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, hey. You see what you call them? Matt Damon around us, right? Oh, and Teddy kgb, he ain't seen that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay. I don't know about you.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

What movie is that? What happened? What's that?

[Uncle Ocho]

It's a. It's a gamble gambling movie.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

What's the name?

[Joe]

Teddy kgb. It's called.

[Uncle Ocho]

What's called? Rounders.

[Joe]

Rounders.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

That must be over, huh?

[Joe]

It is, it is, but it's a good. It's a good ass movie. It's good. Matt Damon and Edward Norton.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I like Matt Damon, though. Matt Damon, he hard. He.

[Joe]

But yeah, we come on out here, let's get this. This Jaylen Brown says, I feel like I'm the best two way player in the world. Joe, do you agree?

[Uncle Ocho]

Is he the best two way player in the world right now? Yeah, I'm gonna say yeah. Ankin Ocho, he. He makes it a point to, you know, own his matchup night in and night out. And not only that, not only is he, you know, owning it on defense, but offensively, he. He following it up with 30 a night, man. You know, I think he's playing extremely great basketball and rightfully so. He's in the MVP conversation, man. It's still a lot of basketball left. Uncan Ocho, he a dark horse in this thing now. He a dark horse in it.

[Joe]

Yeah, I definitely think, look, I always. I thought he was supremely athletic. The bounce that he has, he's worked on his game. You can tell that he's worked on his game. The outshot side shot is a little bit more consistent. Now the three ball is more consistent. He always had the ability to, you know, sometimes you get a little loose with his handles.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

But he's always had the ability to get put the Ball on the floor and get to the right. Absolutely has supreme athleticism. And you go back and look at when they won the championship. He took it. He took it serious. He took Luca. He said, no, I got Luca.

[Uncle Ocho]

94ft.

[Joe]

Yeah. Hey, hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

94ft. That's his job. His job. Pick you up, weigh you down. So in the fourth quarter, you ain't got no gas, and he's still going, and that's how he been playing. Man, kudos to Jalen Brown, bro. He's been fun to watch this year. It's actually been fun to watch the Celtics just the. Their whole team. It ain't just been him. Okay? Ocho. He got other guys who don't stepped up, and they've been playing well.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. Hauser and Derrick White.

[Uncle Ocho]

They got a big down there. The meta. The big dude who been. Who were beating stuff up last night.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

They got enough. And Vucevich, like I'm saying, the more comfortable. The more comfortable he get, the better off they gonna be. They're gonna be right there fighting it in the thicket. Things in the Eastern Conference.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You know, Joe. Hey, JB don't cut his hair. He ain't fooling nobody.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe]

He don't let that Beijing.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

No. You know, honestly, Uncle Joe, you know, JB done took it real serious, obviously, with all the stuff talk a while to talk about, you know, JT going down and how the Celtics weren't going to be the same. He took all that talk personal because basically, y' all telling me I can't carry no franchise. Y' all telling me, you know, JT is the better player of the two, you know, so let me. Let me get out here and show y' all, I already had to deal with the bull crap when it came to the goddamn Olympics. Now you're saying I can't carry a franchise? Man, hold my beer, right? Watch this, right? He been showing up. He been showing out. Showing up and showing out ever since.

[Uncle Ocho]

You. You absolutely right, Ocho. He's taking the challenge every night on both ends of the floor.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

And he's done it at a very, very high level. And, man, I'm talking about every night he win his matchup. Uncle Ocho. He wins his matchup every night, which gives him a great chance to win. Yeah.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey. Hey, Joe, how tall is jb?

[Uncle Ocho]

About six. Five, Six, six.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

That's it?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I thought he was calling that. I thought he bought your height, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, you about six? About six. Six. Oh. How tall you At Joe, I'm about six, eight.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah, yeah, I like. I like me. Yeah, I like me going right around you, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

Go right around who?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, one thing I could do is slide these puppies. Ojo, where I'm from, if you couldn't play defense, homeboy, you couldn't get out there on the court. I'm trying to tell you. You hear me?

[Joe]

Yeah, man. Hey, you'll let your slide days over, Joe. Back in the day to let you slide.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe, I. I know you can slide one way. I mean, how fast can you get back, you know, with your lateral movement?

[Uncle Ocho]

Joe, man, first off, your handle ain't like that to be moving nobody side to side while you talking about some. Man, stop it.

[Joe]

Stop it.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

How you know, Joe, you gotta cut it out.

[Uncle Ocho]

Stop the cat. Stop the cab, bro.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

What we gonna play, Joe? I'm sick of this.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, I told you where we gonna play. We gonna line it up.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, you in. You in Atlanta?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I'm here right now. What's going on?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, listen, are you prepared to play right now? Cause I can fly down for the week and chill.

[Uncle Ocho]

I told you, man, you got. Can you give me at least an April?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, he's scared.

[Joe]

Hey, look, I got his spook. I got his spook. Hey, you spook.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, Joe.

[Joe]

You scared?

[Uncle Ocho]

Joe, I just need. I need to. April, bro.

[Joe]

Can.

[Uncle Ocho]

I have to. April.

[Joe]

Give me.

[Uncle Ocho]

Give me about four more weeks.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Listen to. Let me. Tell me. Whatever you can do in April, you could do right now, boy, to help you my boy. Not with me. I'm telling you, boy, your knees gonna buckle, boy. Huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Ojo, we already know you the big capital man. Everybody know that, bro. Everybody know that.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, Joe, one thing I do is I compete, Joe. In everything I do, Joe. And hey, I'm gonna compete. I'm show up, Huh?

[Joe]

In that big three all star game. What about it? Listen, me, let me tell you.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I keep tired and told you all a million times. In that big three, I ain't messing up nobody money. Especially that much money. Them boys betting I let them take care of their thing and got my ass out the way. Because I ain't paying nobody 20, 000 to get in the way and show I can hoop. Excuse my language. Sorry about that. But Joe, boy, your ass grass, boy. Heavy is the crown. Hey, heavy is the crown, right? We'll see who be wearing it after we've done it.

[Joe]

JB came in the Sunday game averaging a career high 29 points a game. Seven rebounds, almost five assists. He showed up. He had 32. Peyton Pritchard had 30. And they roll the Lakers.

[Uncle Ocho]

What's your Lakers gonna do, huh?

[Joe]

Nothing. They can't play defense. They can't guard anybody.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

You know they couldn't play defense last year.

[Joe]

Yeah, they still can't. They can't. They can't rebound, okay, David.

[Uncle Ocho]

They can't keep nobody in front of them. That's why I can't stand in front of nobody.

[Joe]

They get beat off the first they get beat off the first dribble.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh man.

[Joe]

Which compromise your defense for the for the rest of the possession. Once you get beat off the first dribble, you compromise the rest of the possession.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's a rap. It's a rap. You got us in the hucklebuck. Now we scrambling, trying to catch.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

It's over with somebody gonna be open.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes sir.

[Joe]

Sliding all over the place.

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[Joe]

Anthony Edwards say Memphis has dirty hotel rooms. When I go to Memphis, I'll be like, damn, this ish be dirty. I walked in Memphis hotel one time, it has stained and ish on the bed. Come on, man, they ain't clean the bed like that.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Wait, hold on. You talk about the NBA hotel or just a regular hotel?

[Joe]

Because the NBA, you have to stay at a four or five star hotel if it's available, right? I know, I know. Memphis got some, like, some four season, some risk cars or something.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah, they got, they gotta have something nice. So maybe he just had one bad experience. That one bad experience. It could spoil a lot, especially if you said this out publicly. And this hotel can get bad reviews based on that one experience where a hotel worker decided not to clean up the right way. Now they got everybody thinking the hotel dirty.

[Joe]

They got four season risk cars in Memphis. Yeah.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Damn. You ever had that happen to you when you go see a hotel and it wasn't up to par?

[Joe]

I'm trying to think. Not the bed.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah. Hey, are you one of those that check everything? You check the towels, you check the sheets, you. You look up on the stuff? I'm. I've never been.

[Joe]

No, I look, look, I. What I do, ocho, is that I. When I go somewhere, I take X amount of cash and I, I always leave when I leave the room.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Normally when I leave, they go people cleaning. I'm like, ma', am, I left money in the room. You clean it. That's all I say, just clean. I'm leaving for the day. They gonna clean that room. They gonna have extra towels. They gonna have my, my phone cords, charging cable. They'll have that thing folded up nice and neat.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

They're gonna have the bedroom slippers right there, side the bed. They're gonna have extra water. They're gonna do all that for easy little 30, 30, $40. Boom. Every time I leave, when I come in, a turn down service. Normally when I'm turned down because I don't want to leave the room, right. But every morning and when I leave to go, when I leave, when I leave the hotel, I always do that. Always do that.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

You only give them 30, 40.

[Joe]

I give them 30. 40. Yeah.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Damn.

[Redfin Narrator]

Huh?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I mean, you could at least made it a hundred. Yeah, make, you know, make, make somebody day.

[Joe]

I, I guarantee you that. 30, 40. Because how many people you think in the hotel that they clean, that they get, they, that somebody leave a tip for?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I mean, probably, probably not many.

[Joe]

Exactly.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I, I mean, I'm just saying, you

[Joe]

know, you don't leave nothing. Who, Ocho?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I mean,

[Joe]

he gonna tell chat this man tell me I need to leave a hundred, he leaves zero.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Chad, think about what he just said. Chad, think about what he just said. He said, shannon needs to leave a hundred, right? I said, well, you don't leave nothing. You, you right up.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, I had to pay for the hotel. The hotel charged me incidentals. And you telling me I need to leave something for the.

[Joe]

So you think I'm staying at the hotel for free?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah, you know, I'm not. You're a rewards member.

[Joe]

Ain't no rewards member.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

You're not?

[Joe]

No.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah. Hey, listen, I tip when I go to restaurants, though. I mean, that, that's, you know, I ain't never thought about doing it at the hotel. I'm gonna try that next time. I'm gonna try that. Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, really?

[Joe]

Oh, we need to go to. We need to go what's called Memphis to get some barbecue. I gotta take for some barbecue. No, Memphis.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah, Memphis.

[Joe]

My mouth tuned up for some barbecue.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, Memphis known for that barbecue, boy.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Ain't Candace, Ain't Kansas City known for barbecue too?

[Joe]

Known for barbecue too?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I mean, look, Texas. In Texas, Tennessee probably. Kansas City, North Carolina, mainly southern states. I mean, obviously Kansas. Kansas City is in the Midwest, right? For the most part. You talk about Texas, Tennessee, North Carolina, Georgia, South Southern states.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, it ain't nothing like. It ain't nothing. It ain't nothing like having no ribs, man, that fall off the bone, man. I, I, and, and obviously I love

[Joe]

poor I, I know we gonna get killed, Ocho, but I eat pork ribs.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I mean, I, I, man, listen, I don't care what it is. I'm gonna eat it. But you ever had Tony Romas, they're better restaurants.

[Joe]

But I'm pause, Ocho, you need to pause with that what I said and talk about whatever it is, I'm gonna eat it.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Oh, we talk about Food, though, huh?

[Joe]

Yeah. I don't know what you're talking about.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Okay, pause, pause.

[Joe]

I don't know what you talking about,

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

but I. I'm there. There are very, very good barbecue places, but I just remember growing up in highly Miami lakes, I always used to go to Tony Roma's, and the goddamn ribs fall right off the bone. Yeah, baby, back rib. They. Oh, my goodness, it was perfect. I. I haven't seen Tony Romans.

[Joe]

I want to go to Charlie. I'd like some dry. I want some dry rub ribs.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Dry who?

[Joe]

Dry rub?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

What that mean,

[Joe]

huh?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Why you said dry?

[Joe]

Because it's a. It's a rub. It's a seasoning that they put on them, and they're dry.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Okay.

[Joe]

They're not wet, like, with sauce, with.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Okay, okay.

[Joe]

This man here.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah. I ain't never heard that. Hey, well, you. Your lingo be different. Like, sometimes you say stuff I never heard before.

[Joe]

All right, Chad. Y' all see what I be going through, man? Y' all see what I be going through?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Chat, My bad.

[Joe]

Yeah, well, somebody. I'm in the Muslim reserves, Ocho. One week out the month, two weeks out the year. I don't eat no poke.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Okay. Okay, I like that.

[Joe]

But I eat everything on the pig except the squeal. Oh, yeah. We got to go to destination Smoke. Yeah. And Marietta, California. Yeah. That tenderness.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Oh, wait a minute. Nah, we didn't. Didn't he take. Did something happen with that?

[Joe]

I don't know.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah, the tenderism dude, he left. He got fired or the dude took something like that. Yeah, the old, old man gone.

[Joe]

Yeah, well, wherever he go, we'll find him.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah, yeah, we gotta. We gotta find him, man.

[Joe]

Hell, he ain't in witness protection.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah. Hey, he fell out. He fell out with the owner after. After he. You know, he. He advertised and. And bred it and marketing his. His. His establishment, you know, dude, they fell out.

[Joe]

Yeah, but we got. We got. We. Hey, look, we going to the car. We go. Damn. What did the. Though they got a fair here. When did the. The. The Vegas thing. I don't see anything about what Chat just said, so don't be recording what Chad say.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Chat.

[Joe]

What Chad say? Oh, oh, about the TISM guy. Oh, I don't know about the 10. I don't.

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[Joe]

All I know is that I see, the thing is, and so I don't know, whatever. They fell out or he got a new restaurant.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't know.

[Joe]

I don't know. Chat. So don't start me the line.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah, we. We gonna find Him. We gonna go, we gonna go. We gotta go. Try that.

[Joe]

Yeah, but. No, but we go. Hey, go to. It's a good old pork. I'm giving some good old pork ribs. I like. I like tips.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Rib tips.

[Joe]

Yep.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

I ain't a brisket guy, though. You like brisket?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I. I eat everything, boy.

[Joe]

Hey, I told you about talking like that.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I'm talking about. Let me talk about.

[Joe]

I don't know what you talking about, Chad. We can never discern what he talking about.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, I'm talking about the ribs. You know, I. I enjoy.

[Joe]

I enjoy a little bit everything here in Vegas, right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay.

[Joe]

Yeah, no, I don't want none of that. I want no sushi. I don't want no sushi pizza, man. You ain't going to tear my stomach up.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Sushi.

[Matt Rogers]

What?

[Joe]

Sushi pizza. Yeah, I already. Yes. Less bbq. The guy to be cooking them oxtails. Yeah, I already ordered some of them. I already ordered some of them. And I had some sitting to my sister. Oh, I'll be preaching, man. I'll be ordering all kind of stuff. I'd be ordering cakes.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Okay, I gotta. I gotta try that

[Joe]

sweet and savory Atlanta safana. Oh, they don't send my brother cakes. They don't send me cakes. Oh, I buy stuff out there. If it look good and you close or you'll send it, right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Count me in.

[Joe]

They'll tell you. I'll buy. I buy it. Yeah, but I don't hit. I don't hit the moxtails. They're expensive. I'm not gonna lie. They. They expensive, but they could. They could. He smoked gotta. They got a nice smoky taste. They like. Look that side, what I got.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I gotta try that. Where that's at.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, that thing.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Where is that?

[Joe]

Yeah, Asha eat it chat. There ain't nothing. Look here, Mikey. She is the female version of Mikey. Give it to Mikey. He would like. He'll try it.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hold on. Live serial commercial you said about Mikey from the cereal commercial back in the day.

[Joe]

Yes, that's ash.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, that commercial was classic.

[Joe]

Yeah, that's ash. But no, no, but I have. I haven't really had no experience like that, Ocho, with a hotel where you know. You know, not like what Ann is talking about. No, no, yeah, yeah.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I've never had that. I never had that situation either.

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[Joe]

Speaking of the NBA is sending their own independent dog is to verify Larry Markin's MRI from an injury into practice today, per NBA Porter Tony Jones. Joe, is this what it's come to?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, because the NBA say, man, we ain't going. We ain't going. Matter of fact, we f send our doctors down there to see what's going on with these dudes because this ain't this. This tank of stuff, man. And it got out of hand. And I think that's what. That's what the NBA think. That's why they said we sending our own doctors down there to check on Lloyd Mark and. And see what's going on. Yeah, this would come to put.

[Joe]

The thing is, Joe, you know, your body, I mean, the doctor said you seen fight, but no, my ish hurt. So what. What do we do? What do we. What do we do, Joe? I mean, most guys, I mean, a lot of times, if it's something serious. They go get a second opinion. They don't never take the guy's first opinion. I mean, you got something going on. Joe. I don't know if you missed any time during the season, but if somebody said, well, Joe, you got this. You're like, you know what? Let me go grab that second opinion.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, you go get a second opinion for sure. I guess this may be the second opinion. I don't know. But the NBA say they want to know.

[Joe]

They.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, they starting to investigate a lot more, man. It's. It's been a lot going on. You see, they just shut Jan Jackson down. He had to have surgery. He having searched. He has a surgery for something.

[Joe]

Joe, you mean to tell me you're going to trade all that, Give up all those picks for a guy that you got to have. They gotta have surgery where they do that? Think about what they gave up to get him. And now you get. Yeah, now he played a couple of games going off, and then the fourth quarter, you said him. Laurie Barkley was going up. Sit him in the fourth quarter. NBA said, man, y' all full of.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's why they send them people down there. Yeah, we ain't. We ain't trying to hear all that.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, we. We.

[Uncle Ocho]

We gonna be able to determine this here.

[Joe]

But, hey, yeah. And you see, the NBA say, you know what? Ain't no more lottery protected. Y' all want to take. You do the game of the pigs. Let somebody land them top three picks. Somebody got it because, you know, top three protect the top five protected. NBA said, hell, no. Ain't nothing protected.

[Uncle Ocho]

Listen, because I think. I think Utah can still. I think they can get the number one.

[Joe]

They can. And I believe if they get the number one pick, they taking the bonza.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's what I think. I think, for whatever strange reason, I feel like he gonna stay in Utah. Yeah. I don't know why.

[Guest Analyst]

It's just

[Joe]

so. I get it. I mean, I think the thing is that when you play and it's like they're playing too many games. Well, damn. Okay. They'll too many. I'm sure the NBA won't have a problem cutting the game, but they want to cut that pay, too, so. Because there you go, Ocho, is that they want less games, but we still want to make 70, 80 million dollars. It may say, oh, no, hell, y'. All. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. I don't think we need less games, man. It's been like this since as long

[Joe]

as I can remember. As long as I can remember. And I've been a lot longer than both of you. So as long as I can remember, Joe, they played 82 games.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, listen, them dude. Them dude playing in Chuck Taylor's and in Converse out there, they didn't have technology.

[Joe]

They didn't have the. Like Joe said, the shoe technology, the eating technology, the training technology, the medical equipment technology, the doctors, everything is so much more advanced. So can you imagine? And like if you look at track and field lotion, when these guys were running these fast time with just regular shoes. Yeah, just imagine if they had those carbon fiber shoes and they had these mondo track like they got right now, man. You say most about a man, 9:3. Yeah, I don't tell her how far. Jonathan that was with a jump. He jumped 60 and a half feet. Bob Beeman when he was 29. Two and a half at altitude in Mexico City, man, they have no technology like they got now. And I'm not saying athletes, but when you combine athletes getting better and technology right alongside it, you got the perfect storm.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, sir. Hey, look, I kept me a fresh pair of orthotics in my shoes. What?

[Joe]

A pair of orthotics.

[Uncle Ocho]

Orthotics. He had that, Ojo.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah, I had them. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe. I had. Obviously I was a Reebok during that time. I had them take all the lining out my shoe. I had no support.

[Uncle Ocho]

Why is that?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

So? Basically because I need. I need to feel the floor. You know what I mean? Joe, you ever had on. You ever had on a track spike or like a waffle shoe? Yeah, that's what I wanted my cleats to feel like. I need to feel the floor every time I step and touch him. When it's time for me to break down.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I don't want no support. I don't want nothing restricting my ankle.

[Guest Analyst]

Damn.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah, it's weird. I. I gotta. I gotta feel the floor. I don't know, it's weird getting used

[Uncle Ocho]

to getting taped like.

[Joe]

Yeah, I got taped directly to my skin. My bad. Hell no, man. I look at these guys right now. That man out there playing with. No, he played out there with footage and. No, no tape. I say what?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah, same, same. Listen, the only time I put on tape, Joe, it was more for like fashion. It wasn't, you know, it wasn't, you know, for my ankles or done it. It was just laid on there because I. I wanted to make sure everything was able to roll and be real smooth.

[Joe]

It was.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

It was weird, Ojo.

[Uncle Ocho]

I had to have some tape. I Had to be taped at that pre wrap jumping. You can't feel.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

You can't feel nothing. Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

I need to be secure.

[Joe]

I'm, I'm. Boy, my ankle, my. Hey, my ankle bone be on the ground. I was a hard planner. I'm too bad. I'm. And you're talking about. I'm not like you. Ocho under 200, that's 230 getting moving and having to stop on the D. Oh, no.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Right, right, right, right, right.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah, I forgot. Ocho a little dude. He wouldn't understand.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

No, Joe, Joe, don't, don't do that. Joe. I had a little size when I was playing. Hey, Joe, if you take my cleat, right? If you take my cleat, you get. You could bend it like this.

[Joe]

Oh, no.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, no.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

You can fold it. But if it felt just like a track shoe. I just had a cleat bottom on, on, on the bottom.

[Joe]

Nope. Man. Joe, I had, I had moleskin, you know, one of those strips that you put up there like that. And then I had the mole skin taped around directly to my skin.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's what I had. Hey, listen, I needed mine to feel secure. Yeah. Telling you, man, listen, I ain't played boys to get heavy tape.

[Joe]

I didn't get it like that for practice now, you know, I just go in there with pre wrap and regular tape right when it came.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right, right, right, right.

[Joe]

I go out there for warm ups with directly like, like practice tape. Soon as I come back in it, I take that off. All right, let's get it. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I don't, I don't understand how. I don't understand how people wear ankle braces on. They, they put, they, they tape up their shoe, then they put on the ankle brace, then they put their shoe on.

[Joe]

That's liable.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Everything, everything, everything is restricted. I'm like, like, what are you doing? It made no sense to me, but it made people comfortable.

[Joe]

Lyman tape up all that stuff because you know them linemen they have on. They have on high tops. You know, they have. But, but they do it. But they don't have the. They have rubber bottom shoes on you. They don't do studs. Most linemen don't do studs, right? We have. I played with Zim. He's the only offensive line I've ever seen wear low tops. Real.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I'd never seen the officer like that.

[Joe]

And no Spanish.

[Uncle Ocho]

Is it meant. Is it mandatory to wear knee braces if you allow college?

[Joe]

Most guys, if you wear a knee brace, you've Had a knee injury like you look at. Brady. Tom Brady. I'm. Excuse me, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning. John. John played his career. John never had an acl. He tore his ACL in high school and they removed it. So he didn't have an ACL at all. Damn. When I first got there, he didn't used to practice with a brace. No, as a matter of fact, he really did. He didn't practice with a brace. He only played in the brace. But he practiced without it. But most of the time, Joe, if somebody's had especially lineman offensive linemen, they'll, they'll, they'll continue to wear it. Quarterbacks will wear it. Tom Brady, once he tore his knee. I don't think Brady ever took the knee brace off. Peyton. You know guys like that. Yeah, I mean I could imagine a skill position player playing with a big old dun joy on.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, I couldn't. But I noticed a lot of them lineman dudes, I know they be. Because they always getting rolled up.

[Joe]

Exactly. I think in college it might be mandatory. Most college teams have all their offensive linemen wear knee braces because of that. What you said, Joe, they get rolled up on. But yeah, nah, damn. But no. I don't know how y' all do it. I'll be looking at, I'll be looking at them guys in amazement. With no tape. I'm like, man, that must be really.

[Uncle Ocho]

I do too.

[Joe]

I could do it. Football.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey. I be thinking the same thing. Because in football especially the way they be tackling the receivers, the ones who'd be out there with them little no show socks on. I'd be like, man, how this dude. It's like every play, it's almost a Korean play bad.

[Joe]

And especially because the hip drop, that's what, that's what, that's what got me oo taping my ankles like that. Cause guys were hip dropping you.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And see, right then they didn't call it a high ankle sprain, they just called it an ankle sprain. And so you're like, man, this thing taking forever to heal.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

This ain't no typical ever to heal.

[Joe]

Yeah, I never rolled my ankle like most people roll their ankle over the top roll it like that. Yeah, I rolled mine in because I got, I got dragged down from behind orchard like that there.

[Uncle Ocho]

I know that, but that must have

[Joe]

been real nice to be able to run no tape Ocho.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Huh?

[Joe]

That must have been real nice.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, and that, you know what? Honestly, for me to be able to do that playing at that level as quick and as fast as I was, it all had to do. When I was little, running around with no shoes on, I could not play throw up tackle in the street. You know, you play freeze. You're in a car coming, you know.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I always either had on socks or I had on no shoes. So I need. I. I need. I needed to be able to feel the floor even once I made it. It's weird, but.

[Joe]

But you didn't. But you see. But you played in molded bottoms. You didn't play in studs, though, did you?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Oh, yeah, molded. I don't play no studs. Even when we played the Steelers. Even we played the Steelers. Remember how the Steelers purposely had that bad feel for as. As an advantage to them?

[Uncle Ocho]

I still.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I still wore. I still. Yeah, still wear mode. I never slip. Never slip.

[Joe]

I'm.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Oh, I'm always over. What's the word I'm looking for? Yeah, always. And I never. Yeah, I never extended. I never extended.

[Joe]

Or play. Oh, you playing on your inside foot and slip like, bro, you know, it's wet out here. You trying to play it like you're trying to speed cut like it's dry.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, man.

[Joe]

Drop your hips and get up. Put. But that way the guy start skating. Put the back of the foot down. Ocho. But my first. My first. I think my first, like, 10 years Ocho, I wore molded. And then I went to the. The speed tds.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Speed tds. Okay.

[Joe]

What actually called tempo bottles.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah, I know.

[Joe]

Yeah, I know.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Nice boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey. Hey. So how often did y' all go through, like, different shoes?

[Joe]

Every week you play a new player?

[Uncle Ocho]

No.

[Joe]

Yeah, every week. So what I would do. What I would do is that I would wear a new pair of shoes on Friday to get them broken in, and then I would play in them. Then I would practice in those Wednesday and Thursday, break out a new pair for Friday, playing those on on Sunday.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I. I like. I like new shoes. I. I hate it when my shoes. Oh, hell, I play so much. I probably played. I probably played in a new pair of shoes like every three games on OJo because I. I hate it when they got too broken and too loose. I like my shoe to be snug tight. Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer]

Okay.

[Joe]

Yeah, I was gonna say you played a new pair of shoes, but I think Jordan played a new pair of shoes every game. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Damn, man. Man, you know how new shoe. Brand new shoes hurt your feet? You know, Shot ain't saying. Like brand new shoes.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You remember when you was a kid, Joey? Shoes too small. You hitting the bottom with your heel trying to get them toes down. Oh, yeah, but I. I bet. I hate that. That. I hate that.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's how I got that. That's how I got this whole hammer toe I got from one and two little shoes.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

You know, you can go get a little surgery for that, too, now.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, I ain't heard man play. I don't. It took me through my whole professional career. Ain't no need.

[Joe]

He ain't get no surgery unless he have to. What?

[Uncle Ocho]

No voluntary surgery?

[Joe]

Cosmetic surgery?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, no. All right. Hey, look, I don't know how many times y' all ever been under that knife, but I done been under it quite a few times. It ain't pretty.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I ain't never been. I ain't never been under that, Joe. That's probably why I'm suggesting it.

[Joe]

My bad. Hey, bad.

[Uncle Ocho]

Look at.

[Joe]

I had broke my collarbone and it almost broke the skin, so I got a knot right here. We can file it down. I said, man, do you know how painful that'll be? The file, file, bone down, I said. Ain't bothering nobody. Always hurt.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right? Right.

[Joe]

And if I don't, I don't really walk around. I ain't at the beach. I ain't walking around with no shirt off saying nobody gonna notice it. Right? When I do a photo, they just switch it to the opposite side. So if I'm facing this side, they'll take the bone and put it on this side so you won't even notice it and.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Okay. I see what you mean.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, man. Nah, he'll die one of that knife ain't no joke, boy. I got 18 screw 3 plates in my face, man.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm breaking my orbital.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Damn. But you got elbow, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

I went up to dunk the ball and. And stack. I tried to block it, and he kind of bodied me, and I slipped off the rim, hit face first. Ah,

[Joe]

I saw that guy happen to a guy in. In high school. He tried to dunk the ball, and the guy undercut him. And the first thing was hit with this.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I was. I was in bad shape. I was in bad shape.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

How much time you had? I had to miss, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

We was in the playoffs. This is the first round. It was the first round of the second round of the playoffs. And that was the first game. Damn, man. I missed the rest of that series. I think we beat him in six, right? I was out about two weeks, and that was early. I came back early. Whole eye was bloodshot red, you know, just from the surgery and all that. Right, right, right. It took a minute for that redness to get out my eye.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, you had the mat. You had the mask on.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, I had the mask. I had to wear. Still got the mask. I still got it.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Batman, Joe, whatever.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, you can't breathe in there.

[Joe]

You could.

[Uncle Ocho]

That was back in 2005. You couldn't breathe with that mask on.

[Joe]

I had to have a thing.

[Uncle Ocho]

You had to wear one up.

[Joe]

I was blocked. I was blocking down. Doing a combo block. Power block or 16 power. I never forget it. Lineman come around, pulling fists, go right through my face mask. Bop.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe]

Fractured my orbital. Yep.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't know about you, but mine. That one hurt, man.

[Joe]

Hey, I remember I was laying on there, I had my face hand like this here. I was like, oh, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

And Greek, my head hurt.

[Joe]

Steve Antelope, we call him Greek, though. He sharpie. What's wrong? I said, greek. It just felt like my face exploded.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ah.

[Joe]

So he said. He said, let's, you know, hey, can you get up? I said, yeah, but I don't want to. Hey, listen, man, that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Never heard.

[Joe]

No joke. So they got me that X rated. Had a complete. Had a complete blow out the floor. Cause your assets in the socket.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

The whole floor. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, I know. I was in pain. Boy, I'm telling. I would tell him, give me morphine. Give me something. Y' all gotta give me something.

[Joe]

I didn't want nothing. Hey, hey. I don't. I don't do the pain medicine. Cause the pain medicine. Have you constipated?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, I had my. My head. Listen, listen. I came down, hit my head on the floor, so I don't know if it was from that.

[Joe]

Yeah, Prob.

[Uncle Ocho]

Head was ringing so bad.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And you know, like, once that. Once something like that happened, they don't want you to fall asleep.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

They keep.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

They keep you out.

[Joe]

That would just say, you know, you okay? Don't fall asleep. I said, man, as soon as I get home, I'm going to bed. I think. I think my orbital. I think my orbital was more. More painful. But I don't know. Maybe I dislocated my elbow too. Because you see how my elbow bend like this? It bit like that the other way. So it's bending like this. It bent like that the other way.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe]

Damn.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

What the hell happened?

[Joe]

Tried to catch up, try to catch a pass, and Romo had my arm. I couldn't get my arm through. So he let. I landed. He landed on top of me and bent it up.

[Matt Rogers]

Ah.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

God.

[Joe]

That's what I said, too.

[Uncle Ocho]

I had elbow surgery. I had elbow surgery, too. I had elbow surgery, too. I had three. I had three chipped bones in my socket. I woke up one morning, my arm was stuck like this here. I couldn't.

[Joe]

I couldn't open. Oh, you had loose bodies. You had loose bodies in there, huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man. Yeah, Dr. Andrews got me right over there.

[Joe]

In Alabama. Yeah, he died in Mobile. In Montgomery, I think. Birmingham.

[Uncle Ocho]

Birmingham. Yeah, I think so.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

God damn.

[Joe]

What?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Y'. All. Hey, y' all been on the table like the video, like the little operation, you know? Remember the eight?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, operation.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

But y' all had everything done. What?

[Joe]

Joe. Kevin Durant says he would like to play for Team USA when his team suits up in 20, 28 in LA. KD said, you guys. The media have projected that narrative. Where did you. Where did the last damn thing come from? I didn't say that I wasn't playing. LeBron said he wasn't. You didn't hear that from me. I've got to stay on top of my game. I'm not. I'm not expecting. I want to produce on the floor and make Grant, or whomever is making the decision, want to put me on the team. I don't want to. Not, Not. Not just seniority. I want to still prove I can help the team win. KD makes the team, he'll be sure a couple of. I guess, what, a couple of months. Should I turn him 40? Because LeBron, if LeBron were to play, he'd be 43. And. And Kate and Steph is. Is four would be 40, right?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

You said make the team. What you mean, make the team?

[Joe]

No, I'm saying if you were to play one.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, he gonna. Hey, man, look, for the love of the game, bro, like, the dude loves to play. Uncle Ocho, they can say whatever they. About him. He enjoys playing the game, and every time he steps on the floor, you know what you're gonna pretty much get from him now if he's still healthy at this point, still playing at a high level. Yeah, I would love to see him out there as well, playing with some of these young guys to help lead the charge. I mean, every time he's played on the USA team, whenever it has been, he's always showed up and showed out, so.

[Joe]

Yep. I can see four gold medals.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, sir. I can see it. I can see it. I can see it.

[Joe]

What?

[Uncle Ocho]

He'll be 40, what?

[Joe]

A couple of months shy of 40.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, he'll be able to do it, man. He'll be able to do it.

[Joe]

Because here's ESPN predicts the 2028 Olympic team. COOPER flag Duran. Almond Thompson, Scotty Barnes, Kate Cunningham, Anthony Edwards, Chad Holger and Jalen Williams, Tyrese Halliburton, Bam Adebayo, Jason Tatum. I don't know. I don't know, Joe. I don't know if that team bringing the goal back.

[Uncle Ocho]

I like Cade and AE at the 1 and 2. I like. I ain't gonna lie, boy. I like Cannipple. I ain't gonna lie.

[Joe]

Ocho, he gonna shatter that rookie three point record.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh.

[Joe]

I mean, he gonna. Hey, he gonna put this Mofo might have 300 threes, man. Listen.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, I'm talking about. He's shooting the blood out that ball. You hear me?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Oh, yeah. He could go now.

[Uncle Ocho]

I like the Eman Thompson kid. I like Duran. I like. I like the scene. I like the scene. What you don't like about it? Is it the bigs that you don't like?

[Joe]

Got the big. Who gonna do something with Yoke? Who gonna do something with Wimby?

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

We.

[Uncle Ocho]

Cause Bam gonna need some help down there. Him and Chad.

[Joe]

Absolutely.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, Bam. Bam. Hey, would Bam be considered undersized big?

[Joe]

Yes. Yeah, like a.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Like a tweener. Almost like power forward center. You could play both.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, he like a hybrid because he can handle the ball, Ocho. He can initiate the offense, he can pass, he can playmate. He can do a little bit of everything. Bam. Like a little wild card. I like having Bam in there.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah, but. But hey, Unc, who is a big in general, that.

[Joe]

That.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

That can go in.

[Joe]

We ain't really got no Big Americans.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, not. Not no bigs who can guard.

[Joe]

Not no traditional bigs. You have stretches.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I mean, what. The traditional big wouldn't work in today's game anyway.

[Joe]

Well, obviously, you gotta. You gotta have somebody that can bang with. With Yoke.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Okay.

[Redfin Narrator]

Okay.

[Joe]

You gotta be able to bang with him. You gotta be able to keep him off the glass. You got to make. Make him work on the offensive end.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Right?

[Joe]

Cause he gonna get his. And the problem that you have with him is that he gets everybody else involved.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, Tatum might say, damn, that. Yeah, y' all ain't played me like I ain't. He might say, damn.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. I see a name that ain't on here averaging 29 points a game. And in the MVP discussion, you, Jayla Brown said kick rocks. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

How they don't have him on here? That's crazy.

[Joe]

He said, b. BHPD disrespect to being closed by a vid down.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man, That's crazy.

[Joe]

Yeah, but I. I could see KD playing. I don't think Steph. I think that was. Steph was all in on that one. Steph say, look, this was. This is my first and last. I'd have brought the family to Paris. Hey, we good. We got the gold medal. I'm good.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, and the performance that Steph put on, I wouldn't go back.

[Joe]

Never forget that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I wasn't the greatest Olympic. That's the greatest Olympic in a game.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah. That was classic, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

I wouldn't go back and mess with that. I wouldn't go back and mess with that Uncle Ojo.

[Joe]

I wouldn't either. And when he shot that by me,

[Uncle Ocho]

he shot that thing, man.

[Joe]

And he just. That back way, way. I'm like, God.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey. He shot that thing with somebody not only draped on it, but he had KD and LeBron to his left, wide open.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

He wasn't tripping.

[Joe]

He said, hey, hey. He said. Cause if y'. All. If y' all wanted to shoot it, y' all would have never passed it to me. Cause you're not getting it back, right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey. I said, what? Oh, my God.

[Joe]

They put on the performance.

[Uncle Ocho]

What?

[Joe]

Hey, man. Cause, you know. Hey, man, you know, everybody look at their chops with us. Joe and Ocho, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

What?

[Joe]

You know, Canada want to try to get. They lick in the Surge want to get. They lick in Greece with Giannis. Want to try to get a lick in.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Slovenia with. Luca.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

And listen, they. They waiting, too.

[Joe]

Hey, and Jeremy waiting. Remember Jeremy to beat him in Feeble a couple of years ago.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

And.

[Uncle Ocho]

And little shoulder Schroeder, he a different player.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah. They got their work cut out for him. They. Cause they got a big target on their back. Big target.

[Joe]

I don't know.

[Uncle Ocho]

Maybe.

[Joe]

Maybe Joel Embiid will be healthy enough to want to play. Nah.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, listen, I get. I give Joel Embiid my knees, man. If I can give my knees, man, just to get him. Just to get him healthy, getting running up and down that court, man, and doing what he could do for the Olympics. He could take my knees, man, and.

[Joe]

And then, you know, French. If the French definitely what they Wimby say? He already look. He already looking at 28.

[Uncle Ocho]

You hear me?

[Joe]

Women say he already. After they lost, he said, I'm looking to get my lick back in 28.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's gonna be a Good one, man. The. The world has caught up to us fellas in basketball. Yeah. From a talent, talent perspective. They ain't scared no more, Uncle Ocho. They ain't scared playing under the.

[Joe]

Playing under those rules. Playing under those rules. Those fever rules. Oh, yeah. It's a whole different game. They could knock the ball off the rim and all kind of foolishness.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. It's gonna be a tough one for us. We'll pull it out, though.

[Joe]

Speaking of that, Kevin Durant also spoke about the narrative that the world is catching up to Team usa. Katie says, all I hear is AAU is destroying the game. The Euros do it right while the Americans do it wrong. It's a lot of bull jive with that. I can read between the lines. It's a shot at black America. We're controlling the sport. They're tired of us controlling the sports. France is coming for y'. All, really, man. We smack them boys, right, Brad, Katie, you got to come back to that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, hey. I like the energy. I like the energy, fellas. Hey, listen. Cause I'm with him on that, man. Listen, we. We the best.

[Joe]

We just.

[Uncle Ocho]

I think, as has the world caught up. Yeah. But I think guys have kind of got a little bored with this for whatever reason. But we got. We got to get back to dominating, man. We got to get back to dominating, fellas. I'm saying from top to bottom. It ain't no teams betting us from top to bottom, Uncle Ocho.

[Joe]

No, but when the. When they first started, they might have had four or five players in the NBA. Every team that sends somebody to the Olympics, right, they got NBA players.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, you're right.

[Joe]

So that's the difference between. Now, no, nobody have the depth that we have. It's just like the American sprinters. Nobody have the depth when it comes to 100 meter sprinting, 200 meter sprinting, 400 meter sprinting. Nobody got that depth.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right.

[Joe]

But they got a couple. Yeah.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

I mean, you. You heard what you just said. A couple.

[Joe]

I don't think they have enough. But. Ocho. But here's the thing. When they played in 92, you couldn't find a foreigner in the top 25.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Right.

[Joe]

The top seven, eight players in the NBA currently are foreigners.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Yeah. I mean, the game. The game has evolved. They have evolved in general. You know, they've gotten better, whatever it is that they do in their ecosystem, and. And having kids go through whatever type of training they do now you have more players in the NBA that are foreigners. But I still think, as a whole Collectively, as a group, they will never be able to dominate us, especially at said craft. Especially in Olympics.

[Joe]

Yeah, well, they don't beat. They don't beat us before. So once you get beat, right. It's hard to keep them wolves off. Because once them hyenas found out they could take down a cape buffalo, it's hard to protect them calves. It's hard, man.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

Hey, them boy, them group of names you just put up, even though we ain't got no big. They ain't letting us down.

[Joe]

I sure hope you right, Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho]

That means. That mean your perimeters. Your perimeter guys got to be like, they got.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

They got to be on. They got to be on point.

[Uncle Ocho]

They gotta be.

[Joe (different Joe or same Joe, possibly co-host)]

They gotta be on point.

[Joe]

I like that. No, that con canymple for the simple fact he can shoot three. You gotta have somebody that can knock. That could be a knock down three. You got to have a couple of those guys.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Because you gonna have guys who can go off the bounce, who can create opportunities for other guys. And you just want them other guys like Con canipple to be able to knock down shots. Man, I watched him play Uncle Ocho. Con canipple. He don't even really look like no NBA player. But when I'm talking about getting it done. Oh my God, the boy out there getting it done. Ocho, every time you look in the box, go. He got 20, 27 points. Like I'm talking about shooting.

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