Best of NBA News Part 1: STOP HATING on Bam's 83! Superman TOP 10? & Jokic better than MJ!

Summary

Club Shay Shay Podcast – Best of NBA News Part 1: STOP HATING on Bam's 83! Superman TOP 10? & Jokic better than MJ!

Host: Shannon Sharpe (with Uncle Joe & Uncle Ocho)
Date: March 15, 2026
Episode Theme:
A lively dive into NBA milestones, focusing on Bam Adebayo’s historic 83-point performance, public and player reactions, the challenge of appreciating new records, and hotly debated all-time player rankings—including Nikola Jokic’s standing among legends and Dwight Howard’s Hall of Fame legacy.

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Episode Overview

This episode centers around three main threads:

• Dissecting Bam Adebayo’s unprecedented 83-point NBA game—why it’s being discredited by some fans and celebrated by others, and how narratives around legacy and player archetypes shape reactions.
• Revisiting historical greatness—including Kobe Bryant’s celebrated 81-point game, Wilt Chamberlain’s legendary 100, and comparisons to scorers of the past—and challenging the ways milestones are remembered and evaluated.
• Lively debates over all-time great status—a spirited comparison of Dwight Howard to top NBA centers and a provocative claim that Nikola Jokic belongs above Michael Jordan.

Throughout, the hosts keep the tone vibrant, humorous, and occasionally irreverent, peppered with personal anecdotes and playful arguments about awards, high school homecomings, and even statue likenesses.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Bam Adebayo’s 83-Point Game: Why the Hate?

Timestamps: 03:11–16:34

• Public & Player Reactions:

  • Bam scored 83 against the struggling Wizards, drawing both admiration and dismissal. Critics highlight the opponent's weakness and the Heat’s late-game fouling to extend play.
  • Joe Ocho observes: "Many are discrediting it because the opponent, the Wizards, are the second worst in the East. Others are discrediting it because the Heat had filed late in the fourth quarter to help extend the game." (03:11)

• Comparisons to Kobe Bryant’s 81 and Wilt’s 100:

  • The hosts discuss how, over time, context gets lost—what’s remembered is the box score itself, not the circumstances.
  • Uncle Joe insists: "Only three people have scored 80 points. Wilt, Kobe and Bam. And Kobe would have been happy for him..." (04:58)
  • Ocho: "All you remember is 83." (03:11)

• Critiquing the Critiques:

  • The group notes the contrast between fan reaction and how players themselves (including KD and Giannis) responded.
  • "It doesn’t matter how you got there. All that matters is that you got it... in 10, 20, 30 years from now, no one’s going to remember how many free throws he shot." – Joe Ocho, quoting Giannis (03:11)
  • "Kobe would have applauded this man." (10:25)

• Uniqueness of Bam’s Feat:

  • The shock largely stems from Bam not being a traditional volume scorer—his previous career high was in the 30s.
  • "I think that’s what it is... to go from your high being something in the 30s to all the way to 80s, that is crazy." – Joe Ocho (07:37)

• Team and Coaching Support:

  • Heat Coach Erik Spoelstra’s response: "I would do it 10 times out of 10 again for Bam. I'm apologizing to nobody about this." (13:01)
  • The team’s strategy to keep feeding Bam as his total grew is defended as part of basketball’s history of chasing milestones.

Memorable Quotes

• "Kobe would congratulate him. Kobe would be happy for him. All the people taking up for Kobe are doing exactly what he wouldn’t do." – Uncle Joe (04:58)
• "It's 83 effing points. We gotta stop this." – Joe Ocho (06:37)

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2. The Scoreboard and the Story: Context Around NBA Records

Timestamps: 16:55–41:12

• Reactions from Players versus Fans:

  • Noting the disparity in how players handle records versus online fan bases: former and current players often show less jealousy.
  • "Those that actually play the game... their reaction... has not been very supportive." – Uncle Ocho (16:55)

• Force-Feeding the Star – Is it ‘Ethical’?

  • Comparing Bam’s usage to Kobe’s 50 shots in his final game and how milestone-chasing is often celebrated when it fits the narrative.
  • "Ain’t nobody have a problem with it. Bam teammates understood." – Uncle Ocho (24:04)

• Historical Outliers:

  • Story compares with football records; the importance of being the ‘first’ to hit milestones, even if surpassed later:
    • "There’s something about the first... there’ve been a lot of Diamond albums... but I was the first." – Joe Ocho (26:18)

Notable Quote

• "If I got 334 receptions, and the record’s 336... I want to go back in, let me break this record. 83 points... man..." – Joe Ocho (11:36)
• "Unless he took 80 shots... he had it going. 83 is 83, bro." – Uncle Ocho (35:03)

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3. Haters Gonna Hate: On Diminishing Achievements

Timestamps: 34:22–41:45

• Criticism from Around the League:

  • Gordon Hayward’s public critique: "For him to break Kobe’s record, I don’t think it’s great for the league... it kind of feels like a pickup game..." (34:22)
  • Host responses: rules are rules—if he got fouled, he earned the free throws; are we just moving goalposts because we don’t like who did it?

• The Issue of Non-Scorers Breaking Scoring Records:

  • The panel argues that the cognitive dissonance comes from Bam being seen as a two-way player, not a scorer.
  • "But because it’s Bam... To go from a high 30 to 53 to add 53 to that is just crazy." – Joe Ocho (37:06)
  • "Sometimes guys have out of body experiences." (38:44)

Memorable Quotes

• "If Dame Lillard did that, you wouldn’t think anything else." – Joe Ocho (13:01)
• "Guys have out of body experiences." – Joe Ocho (38:44)

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4. NBA Greatness, Jokic’s Place in History, and Re-setting the All-Time Debate

Timestamps: 41:17–57:54

• Michael Porter Jr.’s Bold Claim:
  • MPJ says: "Nikola Jokic is the greatest of all time. People will say Michael Jordan just to agree, but they haven’t watched film... For me, with my two eyes... Nikola Jokic is the best player that I’ve ever seen." (41:17)
• Generational Bias and Perspective:
  • The hosts critique this mindset—youth often forget or never saw Kareem, Moses, Magic, Bird, Jordan, etc.
  • "I can’t blame him for saying what he’s seen… but that’s what happens with youth." – Joe Ocho (42:00)
• Making the Jokic Top 10 Case:
  • Jokic’s stats and skillset (“already got three MVPs,” “trip-doubles,” “leading the league in assists”) set him up as a historically rare big man (49:09–56:42).
  • "If he gets another championship or two… for Yoke to say he’s not a top 10 player, it just is." – Joe Ocho (49:10)
  • Discussion on why big men are often underappreciated, except perhaps Shaq, and why guards/forwards get more market love.

Memorable Quotes

• "You gotta get me the ball, Joe… the big man ain’t gonna never get no credit." – Joe Ocho (49:30)
• "He has the most unstoppable [move]… tell me the person you’ve seen throw that sky hook..." (47:43–48:23)

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5. Dwight Howard’s Place Among NBA Centers

Timestamps: 67:38–71:09

• Hall of Fame Value:
  • Celebration of Dwight Howard’s retirement and legacy
  • "Dwight Howard is one of the 75 best players in NBA history… defensive player of the year, all-NBA selections, finished second in the MVP voting, anchored a team that went to the NBA Finals." – Joe Ocho (68:58)
• Debating Dwight’s All-Time Center Ranking:
  • Discussion places Howard somewhere in the 7–10 range for centers, but not in the elite “top five” (70:53)
  • "I think you’re a top 10 center…he ain’t in the top five." (70:55)

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6. Lighthearted Moments & Personal Anecdotes

Timestamps: Sprinkled Throughout

• Debates over high school “homecoming” traditions: basketball homecoming versus football homecoming—what counts as real? (58:00–66:44)
• Stories about yearbook superlatives, prom, and being “anointed” king—offering running banter and ribbing between the hosts.
• Jokes about the quality of statues—"Whoever did D. Wade hooked up Ocho. It was a two for one." – Joe Ocho (77:03)
• Banter about eating glass (i.e., rebounding stats): "That boy eating glass... he living under that goddamn glass." – Uncle Joe (73:37)

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Important Timestamps & Segments

• Bam’s 83-Point Game and Hater Response: 03:11–16:34
• Historical Scoring Context: 16:34–41:45
• Nikola Jokic GOAT Debate: 41:17–57:54
• Dwight Howard’s Legacy/Center Rankings: 67:38–71:09
• Fun/Personal Stories: 58:00–66:44, 71:10–78:21

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Standout Quotes

On Bam’s 83:

• “83 effing points. … We gotta stop this.” – Joe Ocho (06:37)
• “Kobe would congratulate him. Kobe would be happy for him. All the people taking up for Kobe are doing exactly what he wouldn’t do.” – Uncle Joe (04:58)
• “All you remember is 83.” – Joe Ocho (03:11)

On Jokic and Greatness:

• “Nikola Jokic is the best player that I’ve ever seen.” – Michael Porter Jr., relayed by Joe Ocho (41:17)
• “If he gets another championship… for Yoke to say he’s not a top 10 player, it just is.” – Joe Ocho (49:10)

On Dwight Howard:

• “Dwight Howard is one of the 75 best players in NBA history.” – Joe Ocho (68:58)

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Tone & Style

The conversation is punchy, energetic, and full of guest camaraderie. The panel blends deep respect for the game’s history with sharp contemporary perspective, always willing to challenge conventional wisdom, poke fun at one another, and call out what they see as double standards in the way records and greatness are talked about in sports media and fan circles.

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Summary

For listeners wanting a passionate, insightful, and laughter-filled breakdown of how NBA records shape legacy—and why public opinion often misses the point—this episode is unmissable. Whether you’re interested in breaking down Bam’s historic night, expanding your perspective on all-time rankings, or just enjoy hearing legends talk shop and share life stories, this “Best Of” delivers both heat and heart.

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[Joe Ocho]

favorite sports unc here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you, so please subscribe or you're going to make OO cry. Oh oo bam. Historic 83 point night against the wizard last night presented fans with a choice of force aside look, you had to pick a side you celebrated or you audited. Many are discrediting it because the opponent, the Wizards, are the second worst in the East. Others are discrediting it because the Heat had filed late in the fourth quarter to help extend the game. Kobe took 46 shots in his legendary game, three more than Bam. And made 18 or 20 free throws. Bam. Took 46 free throws to Kobe's 20. Bam. Pierce came to his defense, katie said. I looked at the stat sheet. It was pretty crazy. 40 shots, 40 free throws, 20 threes. But that takes a lot of stamina, man. Huge accomplishment. It will be something we talk about forever, yannis said. It doesn't matter how you got there. All the all that matters is that you got it. Look like in 10, 20, 30 years from now, no one's going to remember how many free throws he shot. I don't think anyone remember how many shots Kobe shot or how many free throws or he made or how many threes. All you remember is 83. Toronto Raptors record When Kobe broke his record, they were 14 and 26 at the time. On January 22, 2006, the 12th worst in the E there was 12th in the East, 4th worst. It was 12th in the East, 14. 4th worst in the East. So what you thinking, Ocho? Because a lot of people. Yeah, everybody talking about, man, out of respect for Kobe, he should have stopped it for 81. Y' all know the way y' all talk about Kobe, is that what.

[Uncle Joe]

You know what? I'm glad you just said that. The first thing, the first thing when I, when I watched Twitter, when I seen some of the stuff on Instagram, is if Kobe was here, Kobe would congratulate him. Kobe would be happy for him. And all the people, all the people taking up for. For Kobe or, or doing exactly what he wouldn't do. So I understand we are with Kobe fans. We love him. The fact that he had 80, 81 point game, but only three people have scored 80 points. Wilt Kobe and Bam. And Kobe would have been happy for him. We know how he is. He celebrated everybody, especially when they hit a milestone of this magnitude, regardless of how you got it, it's still 83 points. Points. And some people, and this is one of, one of the few times I don't understand why don't. Why, why don't we celebrate things like this?

[Joe Ocho]

I'm not Kobe fans.

[Uncle Joe]

That too. I'm not much of a basketball fan.

[Joe Ocho]

That's not the record when Kobe scored 81. That the. The record is a hundred. So somebody needs to score 101 or more points to have the record. 81 is not the record. I don't get it. Ocho is like anything. Sometimes people break records and it takes some more games. Like with O.J. simpson broke the record. He broke the record in 14 games. Eric Dickinson broke the record in 16 games. Somebody's going to come along. If they break the record, it's going to take 17 games. So whatever record happens moving forward. And this is what they try to do to Miles. They're like, well, he did it in 17 games. It's the NFL record sack record. That is the record. But this notion. And I saw when they announced it in, in the fan, in the state, in the crib, they were booing. Why?

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, why?

[Joe Ocho]

I don't care if. Yes. See this. Kobe had a chance because there are games that Kobe had 60 plus and he came out in the third quarter. I like spoke supposedly the way he had it going. I wasn't even thinking about taking him out. And I instructed, I instructed the team, let's see how many we can get him. It happens. Oo you having a good game? The, the. The game t had that was on Jerry Rice's day. 20 catches, Brandon Marshall, 21 catches. Josh McDaniel says, hey, we gonna lose this game, but we gonna get you the record. I don't have a problem with it. Guy. Come on, man, we gotta stop this, man. It's 83 effing points. And, and I get it. That Bam is probably the unlikeliest guy. If you'd have thought somebody will get it, you say Luca, you say Donovan Mitchell, you say Dame Lillard, you saying somebody like that, that's going to make 10, 12, 15 threes. You not thinking no Bam out of bio. Bam. I don't even think BAM is averaging 20 points. If you go back and look at the guys that got those kind of numbers that all those guys at high 20s, even 30s, Luca's been in the 30s. James, Dave Lillard has averaged 30, Kobe averaged 35. So when you see will average 50 in a game, 44 in the game, 38 in the game. So if somebody like that, we're. I think it's because he's so unlikely to have done something like this. He does, I mean, and you look at him, he's not, he's never, I don't even know if he's ever scored 50 in a game. I don't even know if he's ever scored 40 in a game. To go from your high being something in the 30s to all the way to 80s, that is crazy.

[Uncle Joe]

It was dope to me. It was dope to see. I didn't, I didn't believe the stat line when I first saw it. I thought, I thought it was, thought it was AI. You know, when I saw the 80.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

And then I, I saw go across the, the ticker on espn, I was like, oh man, that's dope. That's that, that is dope. And I, I, I was happy. I was hyped. And then I go on Twitter.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

I'm like, well, God damn. People writing think pieces and, and defending Kobe.

[Joe Ocho]

This, this 83 is different. This 83 is different than Kobe's 81. Kobe did, bro. It's 83, it's 80 points. And I mean, I think the thing is Oo is somebody that they, they got a career high of 75 yards and all of a sudden they have a 300 yard game. You're like, how do you get a 300 yard game? The most you ever receiving yard you ever had in the game was 75. And now you got 300, you jump. So you jump over 150, 200, 250 to go from 75 to 3. And I think that's what it is because and the. The amount of free throws. I think the most free throw somebody ever shot in the game was probably, what, 38, I think. Dwight, how shot that many? I mean, check. Check me for. But 46 free throws. And they was. They was trying not to. I mean, I saw. I saw clips, and they got three people on him, and they don't want him to get it.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, that's crazy.

[Joe Ocho]

Y' all should have thought about that earlier before you let the man get 31 in the first quarter. How about that? Then that's the time that you say, you know what? You ain't no more, bro. You let the man get 36 of the quarter. I mean, 31 and a quarter. Then you let him get another 12. So he got 43. Now you let him get another 19. So now you. Not. Now you're gonna get in trouble, and you let him get 21 in the fourth.

[Uncle Joe]

That's. I. I don't. I don't. I don't understand it. I mean, it. It's as if. I mean, it's still basketball. It's still the NBA. It is the best. And then, you know, they move the goal post. They move the goal post. Maybe because it's Bam. Maybe. Maybe if it's Anthony Edwards, maybe nobody would be complaining.

[Joe Ocho]

I guarantee. I bet your doorknob to a bucket of common Ocho had he. If LeBron had 81 and Bam broke that, what you think the discourse would be on the Internet? How many people would be throwing a ticker tape parade that have been applauded? You know that, and I know that. You know that, but because it was Kobe, Kobe would. Kobe would have applauded this man. Oh, hold on. Y' all don't remember when Kobe dropped 55 on Jordan and he idolized Jordan? How can he do his idol like that? Because Kobe said he would want it. No other way. Kobe. I believe Kobe would have been pissed had.

[Uncle Ocho]

Had.

[Joe Ocho]

Had Bam come out of the game with 80 or tie with him at 81. Nah, hell no. If I'm smoke, I'm leaving him in the game. I'm gonna see if he can get 90.

[Uncle Joe]

Absolutely.

[Joe Ocho]

I'm gonna see if he. I'm honestly gonna see if he can get 90 points.

[Uncle Joe]

The funny thing about it is all those that are Kobe fans, they have a right to be Kobe fans, but they don't have Kobe's mentality. They don't have. No, they don't have mentality.

[Joe Ocho]

No.

[Uncle Joe]

You know how he operates. You know how he thinks, and you know that he would have actually Wanted that, of course.

[Joe Ocho]

And look that man. Look, I don't know how you feel, Ocho, but I know if I got. Let's just say that the record is339.339 or 3:36.336 by flip flip Harrison got the record, Ocho. You mean to tell me I don't give a damn if it's a meaningless game? I, I. Hey, hey, hey, Shannon, you got 334. What you want to do? I want to go back. Hey, let them score a touchdown and let me get back in there and get 337. That's what you do. Are you something, something needs to happen that I need to get back on the field and throw and, and let me get, and let me break this record. 83 points, Ocho. 83. I mean, I'm just thinking I like man and like KD saying do think about it. That man shot the ball 43 times and then he took another 43 free throw attempts. He took 22 three point attempts. Do you know how much stamina it takes to run up and down the court in this to shoot? I tell you what, you think it's easy to just, hey, just get you a nice little job and go shoot. 80 and go shoot.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, he in good shape now.

[Joe Ocho]

And 22 of me.

[Uncle Joe]

He in good shape now. Oh, he in good shape.

[Joe Ocho]

That's what makes Steph Curry so spectacular. Think about how much money he does and then how many threes he get up. Congratulations.

[Uncle Joe]

Bam.

[Joe Ocho]

I didn't think, I mean, look, and like I said, because he's so unlikely, if Dame Lillard did that, you wouldn't think anything else. All right, Joe, this is gonna be right up your alley. He head coach Eric Spolster broke the people criticizing bamboo out of bios historic 83 point game. Spo said, I'm not losing sleep over what people are saying, what's ethical or not. I would do it 10 times out of 10 again for Bam. I'm apologizing to nobody about this. I think, I think most of the people that probably made comments, they didn't watch the game. That's irresponsible, unethical. You don't even understand the context of the game. You, Joe, take it away, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Look, I'm with S.P.O. apologizing for what, man? That man had 31 in the first quarter, Uncle Ocho. Hey, look, you probably look up, you probably thinking to yourself, ooh, I got 31 in the first quarter. Oh, we, I'm for sure gonna get 50 today.

[Joe Ocho]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know what? I kind of got this thing going then, you know, once you get to a certain point, your teammates gonna start gravitating, trying to help you out. That's just part of it, bro. You know what I mean? And I think that's why it took such criticism, because of how he got it. Meaning, like, how they were kind of basically force feeding him. But I'm cool with that. Like, man, 83 points, bro. Come on, RK Ocho.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah, hold on. So they talking about, oh, the weather's not any good. They make it seem the Withers ain't been good all year. The Wizards ain't been good since they were the Bullets, so. Right.

[Uncle Ocho]

And we.

[Joe Ocho]

And the thing is, like you said, Joe, he had 31 in the first quarter, then he get another 12. I got 43 at the half. At worst case scenario, I'm getting 60.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, hold on.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah, you think it's 60?

[Uncle Ocho]

You got.

[Joe Ocho]

Hold on, Joe. Joe, I got. I got 19 and third, I got 62. Now with 12 minutes to play, I'm thinking about catching. COVID record.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't care.

[Joe Ocho]

Thank you.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm thinking. Hey, hey, hey. I'm thinking now. I'm thinking, shit, come on. Hoban had 81. I got 62 with 12 minutes.

[Joe Ocho]

Hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

What?

[Joe Ocho]

Hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

With a little help from my teammate.

[Joe Ocho]

Sh.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm out there like, Bam playing wide receiver. They got three dudes guarding this.

[Joe Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey. I ain't playing no defense. All I do it is snowball. I'm cherry picking. Hey, get to the basket. I'm taking off. Hey, throw it down there. Hit me one of them Hail Marys.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, think about it, bro. Like, that's. That's legendary. Because obviously, you know, we. We hadn't seen Will, but we know Will got a hundred points.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah, man, can you. After, like, Joe. Not to cut y', all, but people say, man, will they score no hundred points after seeing Bam get 83? Everybody said, yeah, Will got a hundred after they saw Bam get. Right after they saw Bam get 83. Because you gotta realize, right, Bam's averaging 19, 20 points a game. So you got 63 more points than what you average for Bam. Career high might be 40, 41, 42 points. So now you got 40 plus points more than your career high.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, Will. Yeah, I think.

[Joe Ocho]

I think 78. A 73. Two. No, Wilt had a 70. He had a 71. A 72 what? I think the 72 came in 62, 61. But Wilt had like three 70 point games that year. 78, 100, a 73 and a 72. So he had four 70 point games in one year.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's crazy, man. Listen, it's because Bam is in what we would necessarily call a score. But he got a nice package. He got a nice bag. Uncle Ocho. Hey, look, the man down there in Miami living, right? Him and Asia, they. They Big boo loving.

[Joe Ocho]

He.

[Uncle Ocho]

He having a good time, man. Hey, I'm happy for him, man.

[Uncle Joe]

You know? You know, it's funny, Uncle Joe, is. Is those that actually play the game of basketball, whether. Whether it's coaches, whether it's former players, whether it's current players, I mean, their. Their reaction to it has. Has not been very supportive. You know, if you've heard most of the comments, and I mean, I'm. I'm somewhat confused. Obviously. 83 is 83. No matter how you splice it, no matter how you try to move the goalpost, no matter how you try to explain it, it's history. I mean, just. And the fact that I said it yesterday, Joe, talking with Unc, and if Kobe was here, Kobe would be the first one celebrating it. Man, we have all these Kobe fans that are mad, that aren't even thinking like Kobe thinks Kobe celebrates a milestone like that. Absolutely not tripping off someone breaking a milestone. It'd be a congratulations he passed.

[Joe Ocho]

Colby, if he had passed in. If it was. If it was Joe Johnson, if it was anybody else other than Kobe, if it would have got applauded. Now, Joe, you was in the league when Kobe shot 50 times that last game. Ain't nobody say nothing. 50 shots.

[Uncle Ocho]

N

[Joe Ocho]

what he finish with 60 on 50 shots?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

Ain't nobody said nothing. Boy, what a performance. You see Kobe, what were they doing? What was his teammates doing, Joe? Throwing him the ball?

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, they was. Yeah, they was force feeding, considering that.

[Joe Ocho]

I want to pull up the. I want to pull up the. What you call them, because I want to see something, because I want to see how many shots his teammate shot. Because when somebody shoot 50 times, Joe, you might get what, 80, 85 shots in a game and you got 12 players playing and one guy shoot 50 times. How many the others get?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey. What I think, though, un. Is the fact that everybody knew that was his last game.

[Joe Ocho]

They.

[Uncle Ocho]

They wanted to see him go out. They wanted to see him go out with a. I mean, hell, that's a Kobe, like, game.

[Joe Ocho]

50.

[Uncle Ocho]

Dang. He shot 50 times. Like, ain't who else gonna shoot that many times, bro?

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know what I mean?

[Joe Ocho]

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[Uncle Ocho]

They understood the assignment.

[Joe Ocho]

Ain't nobody have a problem with it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Bam.

[Joe Ocho]

Teammates understood. SPO told him, let's see how far he can take. Let's see how far he can take it. I'd have been pissed if they took him out. I ain't gonna lie to you, Joe. And Ocho, I'd have stayed the whole game because now I'm gonna try to get 90. It's a minute and 24 seconds left, Joe. I'm gonna. I ain't gonna lie. I'm gonna try to get 90. I ain't lying.

[Uncle Ocho]

Might well stay in there the whole game. Go. Don't just settle for 83. You saying keep going.

[Joe Ocho]

I had a conversation. I had a conversation with Ozzy and Brian Billett about Jamal Lewis. Jamal Lewis had 295 yards, Ocho, and they took him out of the game.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

You mean to tell me y' all can't let that man get five yards? If somebody break 300, I want to be the first NFL player to rush for 300 yards in an NFL game. They took the man out with like five, six minutes left in the ball game. Talking about, I don't care. 300. Do you understand what 300 mean, Ocho? In an NFL game?

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, absolutely.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, listen, even. Even the Saquon Barkley thing, when he could have broke the running back record and they. And look, look, look. It ain't no giving. You gonna get back there. He didn't have no.

[Uncle Joe]

As you can see, the next year, he.

[Uncle Ocho]

You see them fans? Yeah. Yeah. You gotta take advantage of those moments.

[Joe Ocho]

We had the same thing. We had the same situation. Ocho and Joe with TD to get 2000 TD, needed like 177 yards. Last game of the season. We got everything sewn up. They at the a. The Lion. Say we want to get it. Say we want to be in the record books. All right, let go. Let's go get it. He went out. I think he went. Got 187.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe Ocho]

Yes. But, bro, history. History. I still think about it today because if you remember, Ocho, Adrian Peterson broke Jamal's record. He ran for 296.

[Uncle Joe]

That was his rookie year.

[Joe Ocho]

If you break my. Look here. If you. If you go for 301, I'm good. But guess what, Ocho? I. I was the first guy to rush for 300 yards in an NFL game.

[Uncle Joe]

In the NFL game.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

Look, Nor Van brocklin is the. Is 500. His record is 550. 52. 50 something yards. The first. There's something about the first. People go, come behind you. I don't know who's the first person to have a Diamond. A Diamond album. But guess what, Ocho? I was the first. There've been a lot of diamond albums. I. Mariah Carey got a couple. Whitney Michael, Beyonce. Yeah, I was the first. If I'm Like I said, if I'm bam, I got 83. I ain't lying. Chat. I ain't coming out. I'm trying to get 90.

[Uncle Ocho]

I ain't gonna lie, boy.

[Joe Ocho]

I'm trying to get 90.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey. The first certified diamond album was Michael Jackson's Thriller.

[Joe Ocho]

Really? Listen.

[Uncle Joe]

Wait. Yeah. Thank you. The first album certified diamond, 2 million plus copies by RIAA awarded in 1984, were Michael Jackson's Thriller, certified 20 million, Fleetwood Max rumors, 12 million, and Saturday Night Fever soundtrack, 11 million.

[Joe Ocho]

That was the first. But Michael done sold over 100 million copies, so. That thing 10 times diamond, ain't nobody beating that because they only that. First of all, they down. They. They do what? What? Spotify is streaming now, so. Yeah, you not buying no. No hard copies. You. It was a thing back in the day, Ocho, to actually go buy the hard copy. You could listen to it. You put the headset on. Put it on. They let you listen to it. You go to little mom and Pop or you go to Tower Records and you could actually listen to the album. Like, yeah, I like that. Okay, I'm gonna get this. Or they. You could have a Go to Lamont Pop shops and they would make you a cassette. They'd make you an eight track. Yeah, I ain't got no problem. And people like. Well, they was filing. Okay. Did anything happen in the game that's not a part of the game? Guess what they do every night in the game? Ocho and Joe foul. Yeah, they was. Were they filing? Bam. They didn't have to file him. They filed him. So he go to the free throw line and he made 36 or 43.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

I don't know what to tell you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, listen, if I'm on the defensive team, man, I don't know how this man finna get 83 if he had 31 in the first quarter. Ojo first. First off, Uncle Ojo, my defense, my awareness gonna turn up so high, I'm gonna start denying, man, you're not from the 83. I've been in the game the highest I've been in the game. Dame Lillard, this. When I was playing in Utah, we played against the Blazers when he was in Portland. He gave us like 62.

[Joe Ocho]

Damn look.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I know. Ocho, he was cooking. We couldn't. I'm talking about. But these three. I'm talking about everything. We couldn't contain him in the pick and roll. He going by our guards. He just getting what he want to. So in this same game, bro, I go over 20,000 points for my career. I'm thinking to myself, say, I already knew this. Coming to the game, I needed like 13 points to go for 20k.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

So I went on, got mine out the way. First half, I went on, got mine out the way. Uncle Ocho. Yo, man, this joker done went from 62. I'm thinking to myself, how in the hell I'm gonna get the ball? This dude done went for a career high 62. Lo and behold, after the game, man, the ball boy brought me the ball. He, you know, Dame told him to

[Joe Ocho]

bring it to me.

[Uncle Ocho]

I thought that was cool. So it's like, you know, I thought that was pretty cool on Dame part.

[Joe Ocho]

But we've seen Dame explode like that. Dame got a 70 point game. Dame could have got. Cause I remember calling him. I said, bro, why you didn't. I say, why you didn't go for 80? He like, sharp. I was trying to get 80. He said, man, you saw they started doubling. Hey, they were leaving other men wide open. They were doubling and tripling him in the back corner. But I think he. I think he end up with like 7172. I called him, I said, you got to get 80. He said, man, I was trying, and he was cooking. And so the thing is, Joe, I think the biggest thing Ojo and Joe, is that who did it. You're thinking somebody that's a score, that's gonna get a number like that. Because when you see numbers like that, you see David Thompson or you see Luca, or you see somebody with 70, those are scores. Bam is not a score.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

And he got 83, of all people.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. That's why everybody's so shocked.

[Joe Ocho]

Shocked.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. I'm sitting here, I'm look, I'm looking across my. It came across my phone. I'm like.

[Joe Ocho]

He got what? A buddy of mine texted me, say, Dan, I said, Bam. Got 31 in the first quarter. I said, he'll probably end up with like 50, 55, right? He said, well, he got 40. He did. He texted me back and say, we got 43 at the half. I said, well, let's readjust that. So let's. Okay, go get at least 60. Because I'm thinking now, if you get 10 and 10, that's 20, that's 63. He said he got 62 at that. I'm like, 62 and three quarters. I said. I said, well, eight is in play now.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

And I.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe Ocho]

He sent me back. He, like, 81. And then all of a sudden, it started bubbling again, you know, like some Another.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

I was like, well, damn, 83.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't care how you cut a slice of fellas. That's impressive, man. Oh, yeah, that's impressive.

[Joe Ocho]

83 points, though.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, listen. Cause, you know. You know. You know what? Uncle Ocho, you think about it, he really took. If he shot 40, what, three throws, right?

[Joe Ocho]

And 43 shots.

[Uncle Ocho]

He took. 86 shots. He took. You gotta be in shape to do that, man.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, you think. You know, he played the. He played the next game, or do you rest after that?

[Joe Ocho]

He played tonight.

[Uncle Ocho]

He played tonight.

[Uncle Joe]

What he had tonight? About 20.

[Joe Ocho]

Thank you.

[Uncle Ocho]

I think. I think. I don't even think he had that for real. They won, though.

[Joe Ocho]

They beat the book, I think.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

I think. Yeah. I think he had like, 17. I think he had like, 17, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, 21. He ended with 21.

[Uncle Joe]

Okay. Hey. Hey, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

What's up?

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, they canceled the Magic City thing, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

I know, bro. They still got the game. TI performing at half. I. I still got the tickets. Now what you.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, I'm coming. I am, boy. I'm coming. What you mean?

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay. Okay. I thought we were locked in, Twin.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, I done bought my little ticket off. Off of Spirit. I'll be there.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. I got you, man. We good.

[Joe Ocho]

Okay.

[Uncle Joe]

Okay. Okay. Yeah. You sure you don't want to join us at the game?

[Uncle Ocho]

No, I got surgery, man.

[Uncle Joe]

He could limp out there.

[Uncle Ocho]

Now. You need to get right so I can. So I can get him in that. Get him in that cornhole. Get him in that corn hole.

[Uncle Joe]

There you go. Hey, there you go. Talking. There you go.

[Uncle Ocho]

I just said get him in the cornhole. He won the cornhole. I want my get back in there, you know, I know he'd be at home practicing in the backyard when he out there with the dogs. I already know what's going on.

[Joe Ocho]

I'm trying to show you something, guys, because people.

[Uncle Ocho]

What you got, man?

[Joe Ocho]

Put it zero in on that. When I say my buddy was texting me, who would. You. Can y' all see that?

[Uncle Joe]

Not really.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn, bro. Said no. 71.

[Joe Ocho]

And then he put 81. And then soon it started building again. 83.

[Uncle Ocho]

He did. He said 83. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

Guys, y' all think people. I know. Look, I know the Internet because you got AI and people lie so much, bro, I ain't got to lie. What I wanna. What. What do I get? I just want to know. Chad, tell me what to. The guy wrote, tell me what I get out of my life. Oh, Joe. And I did. I find. I Got another famous number. I got Justin Timberlake's number in my phone, too. Okay.

[Uncle Joe]

Okay.

[Joe Ocho]

I was looking like, well, damn, I forgot I got jt. But I. I think that's the biggest thing. But check this out, Joe. Gordon Hayward said, I think Bam is one of the best two way players in the league at his position, but he's not a scorer, right? So for him to break Kobe's record, I don't think it's great for the league. I think it's kind of highlights how they're already struggling. It kind of feels like a pickup game when you're watching. And for him to shoot 43 free throws and 22 threes, when that's not what he does, it almost feel like. And again, the Wizards too, with all the teams tanking, it kind of makes it feel not legit. Ojo Joe.

[Uncle Joe]

See what. You see what I mean, Joe?

[Uncle Ocho]

And hey, hey, hey, hey, man. Hey. Like my grandma say, if you ain't got nothing good to say, don't say nothing. Thank you. No, for real, don't say nothing at all, man. Stop trying to diminish what this, man. And done we got. We. We got a lot of people hating on him that I wouldn't expect the hate to be coming from. You know what I'm saying? Like, 83 is 83, bro. Like, unless he took 80 shots. You know what I'm saying? Like, the man, he. He had it going, man. He had a good night regardless if he shot 43 free throws, so what? To get 83 points in the game, man. Like, did they file it?

[Joe Ocho]

The question is, I want to know. Ocho, Joe, did they file him? Were those filed? Gordon Hayward, anybody else said he shot 43 times, 43 free throws, did they foul him? That is the question. Because last I checked, when Nate Smith wrote it, he wrote files in there. And if you went over certain numbers, you got to shoot free throws, or if you're in the. If you're in the act of shooting, you shot free throws. So. Or if you had five free throw, five files. So the question is, were they filing? Bam. Yes or no?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, they were filing. They could not do nothing with that, man. Do you hear me? I'm talking about Uncle Ocho. The man was in his bag. Like, I knew he had a nice little handle. You know what I mean? I knew he had a nice. He looked like. I'm talking about the way he was coming down, shooting threes, getting in his bag. I'm like, hold on.

[Joe Ocho]

Thank you. I said the same thing. I said the same thing when they showed it because they showed somebody, I think what you call them, they showed all 31 of his points in the first quarter. On Twitter X and I'm like, well, damn, Bam, hold up. How you come on take three dribbles past half court and pull up from three. That ain't your game. But when you, man, look just like when you had those back to back 200 yard game. When you in that zone, ain't nothing

[Uncle Joe]

you in there, hey, look, look, look.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm like, hold on bro, you've been teasing us when you got all this in your bag. You gave us 83. Come on, you know, but see, but

[Joe Ocho]

what did he say? What did he say, Joe? He said the same thing. I think Bam is one of the best two way players in the league at his position. But he's not a scorer, you see because of who did it. If Dame Lillard get this record. If Steph Curry, James Harden, Luca Doncic, somebody that's known for scoring Kevin Durant, I don't think we got this. But because it's Bam. What was Bam high This, I mean this year, Bam high this year might be 30. And to go from a high 30 to 53 to add 53 to that is just crazy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, it came, it came out of nowhere.

[Joe Ocho]

You look at the guys because you look at the guys that got those numbers, those guys are scores. Everybody that's up there, Wilt was a score will average 30 and 23 for a career. You look at, look at James Harden. It's known as a score. You look at David Thompson was a score. Michael Jordan High was 69 a score, Kobe's high 81 score. You look at guys that Luka Doncic is a score. Dame Lillard is a score. We look at Bam, we think at Bam is a two way player. He'll get a. He'll give you somewhere 15 to 20 ain't gonna give you somewhere between 8 and 12 rebounds. That's what he is great two way player, can play defense, can play on ball, defense can play help side defense can rebound the basketball. It's just so unlike him. Anybody him. Joel Embiid score. We don't look at Bam as a score. And so that's what's throwing people off. But it happens sometimes guys have out of body experiences. Look at Flipper. If somebody said well who got the most receiving yards in a single game? Ocho. Hey somebody, they're gonna say Megatron, they're gonna say Randy Moss, Jerry Rice to it's Flip little old flip.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

Six foot, 180

[Uncle Ocho]

down.

[Uncle Joe]

Well, you went crazy, bro.

[Joe Ocho]

But I. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't losing no sleep over it. Hell, I've been. I've been watching it. I watch. I'm like, well, damn. Cause you don't know. But I. I ain't coming out. I'm. Good night. I'm gonna try to get 90. Keep doing what y' all doing.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

That game would have just been ended. Hey, I go get Joe Ocho, you seven points away from 90. I mean, you think. Can you imagine if that dude would have got 90? Now, I want somebody to get 90 points

[Uncle Ocho]

for whatever reason. It just feel. It feels strange, but I feel like it can happen, you know, you just. That first quarter obviously gotta be special. You know what I'm saying? That first quarter special. If you can get 26, 30 points in the first quarter.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Then you thinking like, okay, boom, at half. If I could have 43, 42, 45, and half.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, you got a good chance, boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

I know I'm getting 50.

[Joe Ocho]

Oh, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

It's like. It's like. You remember when Tyreek. Tyreek had those 200 yards in the first in, like, five catches against Tampa?

[Uncle Ocho]

I said, oh, yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

Oh, he about to break this. I'm thinking he about to break the record. You got 200, and you got a whole half to go. So I just knowing, you know, it's like anything you get going and you just like, oh, yeah, it's one of those days. And you just. Look, I understand y' all can be mad. All you want to guess what. I'm in the record. And look, there might be somebody else. Somebody might break Wilt's record. And there might be somebody get 90 and push me down to three. And somebody might push me down. I might. At one point in 50 years from now, I might be 10. But this is what I know. I scored 83 points in an NBA game. To say that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, that's nasty word.

[Joe Ocho]

Michael Porter Jr. Said, Nikola Jokic is the greatest of all time. People will say Michael Jordan just to agree, but they haven't watched film. They'll just say it to agree with everyone else. For me, with my two eyes, and from what I've seen, I'm going to say Nikola Jokic is the best player that I've ever seen from what I've seen today. And I haven't seen anybody as dominant as Yoke.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, that's it.

[Uncle Joe]

But who said that, Joe?

[Uncle Ocho]

His ex teammate, Yokage. Ex teammate Michael Porter Jr. He played for the Brooklyn Nets.

[Joe Ocho]

But see, that's what happens when, like you said with his eyes. I'm just saying, he said with his eyes. So he hadn't, he didn't see Kareem.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Out of sight, out of mind, which you ain't seen you. Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

He ain't see Kareem, he ain't see Moses Malone, he ain't see Larry Bird. He didn't see Magic, he didn't see Jordan. He didn't. He didn't see that. No. So I can't blame him for saying what he's seen with his own two eyes. But that's what happens with youth. Because you haven't seen it, you don't think it happened.

[Uncle Joe]

It's on film.

[Joe Ocho]

Hello. Hello. I'm Malcolm Gladwell, host of Smart Talks with IBM. I recently spoke with IBM's new director of research, Jake Ambatta. We discussed his vision for the future of quantum computing at IBM Research. What we always do is answer what is the future of computing? Whether it's coming up with new algorithms, coming up with better AI, coming up with quantum, or coming up with just how do different accelerators go together? It's our DNA. To answer the question of what is the future? Isn't it a perfect problem for IBM because you kind of need to have a legacy of building stuff, building actual physical machines. Yeah. It's why I came to IBM. I wanted the experience, the culture of building hard things that others have not done before. Where do you imagine we are in the timeline of this technology? There will come a point when it will mature, Right? My cell phone is a mature technology at this point. How far are we from that point with Quantum, by 2029, we'll build the first fault tolerant Quantum computer that is one that can run a very, very large, large problem. To learn how IBM is building the future of computing, visit IBM.com quantum

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[Uncle Joe]

it's on film. There's footage. Everybody. Everybody.

[Joe Ocho]

You see everybody. I'm old enough to remember Kareem. I'm old enough to remember Kareem. Like I said, go back and look at Kareem numbers when he first got to Milwaukee and when he first got to LA, look at his numbers. He was giving you 33, 34 and 16, 17 for a season

[Uncle Ocho]

he didn't

[Joe Ocho]

come to all time leading scorer for no reason. And the third leading rebounder for no reason. A six time MVP for no reason.

[Uncle Ocho]

Sky hooking you to death.

[Joe Ocho]

He has the most unstoppable. Everybody look. We done seen everybody perfect. KD took dirt one legged step back. You don't see how many people hit Jordan turnaround From Kobe to LeBron to this one. Tell me the person you've seen consistently throw that sky hook and I'm not talking about the end of the shot clock.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn, that's a hard shot to replicate. Ain't nobody doing that sky hook. Boy.

[Joe Ocho]

That's really the only shot that and he wasn't throwing it from two feet. He throwing it for 15, 18ft.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cash. Yeah. You couldn't stop it. You couldn't stop it. Man. The game changed so much.

[Joe Ocho]

It has, it has,

[Uncle Ocho]

it has.

[Joe Ocho]

It's a different game now and I'm not looking. I've been a Nicola Jokic fan. Everybody can know. Y' all know I've been a Jokic fan. I've been a Luka fan basically since they got to the league. And it's gonna be hard. It's gonna be hard. If he were to get another championship or two. For Yoke to say he's not a top 10 player, it just is.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

Cause he's gonna have championships. He's already got three MVPs. He's gonna be top three for MVP for the next three, four years. Now he mess around and get another one. He got four. He got a couple of championships. He got three.

[Uncle Ocho]

I wonder, is it because, you know, big men, they. They kind of hard to market, you know, outside.

[Joe Ocho]

You got to get me the ball, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

Big man never get no credit. We just. We forget about. We forget about Will. We forget about Mr. Russell. We forget about Kareem. The big man ain't gonna never get no trouble because somebody got to give him the ball.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

When you got him that ball, he was hell, wasn't it?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah. Or. Or is it. Is it because the game doesn't look, you know, flamboyant enough when you playing through your bigs, you know, versus the perimeter guys, they gonna razzle dazzle you, cross you over, step your back, you know. That's why they get all the sales when it comes to apparel and things of that sort. But you never see a big man, really, outside of Shaq, who. Who probably sold a lot of shoes. Outside of that, you don't really see big man with. With shoe deals like that.

[Joe Ocho]

No. Cause big, they don't. They don't. They not fancy. They don't. I mean, look at Tim Duncan. They call him the Fundamentals. He ain't do nothing. Had the same expression on his face. Just busting everybody ass. I mean. I mean, he ain't do nothing fancy. Hey, he have no finger roll. All he do glass. I like, man. Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

Sometimes I wish the backboard wasn't there. Damn. He going up the backboard all the time making that shot.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm telling you, man, he could. Damn, uncle, you bring back half flashbacks thinking about them. That man stopped me from getting a ring. I could have got me one damn Tim. Dunking ass.

[Joe Ocho]

But that. But that's the way it is. Because you think about it. Will got 24,000 rebounds. Y' all do realize that man averaged 24 rebounds for a career? Do y' all realize that that man averaged 24 rebound for your career?

[Uncle Ocho]

It don't even sound real.

[Joe Ocho]

The man never had left, never had a season with less than 17 rebounds in a season.

[Uncle Joe]

That's crazy.

[Joe Ocho]

Once had a season, he had 40, average 44, 27. That was after the year you averaged 50 and 25. Cause y' all say y' all thought I was just so I'm not bull jiving, I'm Gonna put a 44 and 27 on you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, we'll be on that trajectory I'm talking about to where, like, I'M saying, I think he gonna be able to dominate Uncle Ocho and when he really fill out to become who he's gonna be, because he ain't but, what, 23, 22?

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah, something like that.

[Uncle Joe]

Damn, boy, he got a long way to go, bruh.

[Uncle Ocho]

Boy, at about 25, 26, you gonna be here.

[Joe Ocho]

If he keeps grow. Yeah, he just get a little strong in your lower body.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. And he figured. Yeah, he figured that part out. It's gonna be a rap.

[Uncle Joe]

You think, you think he gonna develop like Giannis, like get big like that?

[Joe Ocho]

Nah, he gonna get big like that.

[Uncle Joe]

Giannis skinny like that too, now.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, he was, he was, he was.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah, but that's a lot more to fill out.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't see. With me, I think he going, he gonna get a lot stronger on Ocho and he, you know, he might get.

[Joe Ocho]

He might get him stronger, he might

[Uncle Ocho]

get him a little girth on there,

[Joe Ocho]

but, man, just, just so, just so. Just so people can't move him, you know, try to play through his body and move him off his spot. Yeah, but he. People talking about the women develop the sky hook. Man, don't let that man develop no sky hook. How the hell you. Hell, you couldn't block Kareem and he sell two, what the hell you going to do with a man seven, four, seven five Thor, the sky hook from nine feet high? No, but look, I. I get it because you look at Yokin, the stuff that he's doing, we've. We've never seen a big man this skilled offensively that could score the basketball, could assist the basketball. There have been very few bigs that they ran the offense through. We've seen point forwards, but they run the offense through him. Yeah, he's going to average another triple double this year.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I think it's the. It's the grace that he plays with Uncle Ocho High. He makes the game look so easy, so simple. Like, you know, it don't even seem like he really out there trying that hard. If I'm being 100 with you, you know, when I watch him play, it's like. Cause if you give him one on one coverage, he gonna pick whoever that is guarding. He gonna pick him apart so quick. And it's like, then if you double him, he always looking for the open man and he pass first big who can score. You know what I mean? So it's fun to watch him. It's fun to watch him work. And he gonna be hard to stop too, man. That's why I Say, the west so tough. Because by the time whoever comes out of the west, they gonna be so beat up. Because from the first round all the way into the west to the finals, boy, you gonna. You gonna have head hunters on you.

[Joe Ocho]

You got your hands full. And the thing is, he's on Pace Joe to lead the league and assist again. You know, Wilt did it many, many years ago, but this guy's leading the league in assists with. With double double digits, which is crazy.

[Uncle Ocho]

It don't make no sense, man.

[Joe Ocho]

It's crazy.

[Uncle Ocho]

It don't make no sense.

[Joe Ocho]

Like I said, his touch around the basket is second to none. I've seen a lot of big. I mean, so we go back to the mid-70s and come forward. I've never seen a big with that kind of touch.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, I ain't either. I ain't either. I ain't either, Ocho. So I think for Denver, it's all about how healthy they can get or how healthy Gordon could get. Cause he's the one guy who can definitely help Murray and Jokic, you know,

[Joe Ocho]

when it comes to get Watson back.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, and get Watson back. They gotta get them dudes back healthy.

[Joe Ocho]

So they get them back. They get those guys back healthy, it's gonna be very interesting. Cause, you know, look, come playoff time, Murray and Yoke, they're gonna be Murray and yolk. It's Gordon. When Gordon gave you that third option.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

He gives you that third option. He gonna be tough. He gonna be. He gonna be ego. He gonna be tough. He gonna be tough. They're gonna be tough to beat. Yeah. Cause, yo, you know, you don't know. What do you. Do you let him get 50, or do you let him get 25? 30 with 20 rebounds and 15 assists?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Ocho]

Cause you at his mercy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

Like you said, they ain't got nobody. They don't have. They don't have one guy that can stop him. You gotta bring the double. You gotta bring help. And it just come. Now, anytime a guy gets Double Joe and you know this, it's up to the guy if they knocking down shots, usually like effort. We got the next game.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

Cause if you don't come, he gonna punish him. If you do come, he gonna kick it and the guy's knocking down shots.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. You gotta pick your poison, Lou.

[Uncle Joe]

Lose situation, huh?

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, that's why they, you know, a lot of teams starting to be physical with a lot of these guys, too. You know, have them crying and whining to the referee, got Trying to wear Them down. Like, man, we know we ain't gonna stop you, but if we can frustrate you and have you teed off out here to where you get a couple ignorant fouls and you had to go sit down, then we've done just as good a job. You know what I mean? Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

So we'll see. The one thing we do know, he has at least five more years. Let's see what his numbers are. Let's see what he's done. Has he won more championships? Has he won more MVPs? And then we're going to have to have a serious, serious discussion because the numbers are going to warrant and the awards are going to warrant. It's just a matter of how many championships does he have? Because it's going to warrant some consideration.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's going to put him at the top.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah, absolutely. Because there ain't a whole lot of guy. Ain't a whole lot of guys that got. I mean, you got to go back. Only, let's see. Kareem with four, with six MVPs, you got Jordan and Russell with five MVPs. And you got LeBron and. And Will with four MVPS. You talking about Moses Malone has three. So now Magic has three, Bird has three. So now we talking about he already has three. Now you mess around and get him and let him get a fourth and a fifth and he gets a couple of championships. Now what we supposed to do with that? Just ignore it. Oh, let me guess. He played in a soft era.

[Uncle Joe]

There's always gonna be something.

[Joe Ocho]

So we gonna see before we move on. Joe, the social media team had this post yesterday. Look at Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

What happened, bro?

[Uncle Joe]

Joey.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man, what y' all got going on?

[Uncle Joe]

What you doing, Joe?

[Joe Ocho]

Do you know anything about wrestling, Joe?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I know something about wrestling. Well, Junkie, huh?

[Joe Ocho]

CM Punk did that when he beat Seth Rock. Well, he won the belt, so he was making fun of Seth Rollins and his. And. And Becky. So they got the championship. So he's like, I got the bells now. So that's what he was doing. So we were spoofing. We were spoofing that. And people like, man, why y' all do Joe like that? Clearly y' all not wrestling fans. Cause if you knew, if you were wrestling fans, you the new CM Punk did that. And we took that from CM Punk. Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, they, they, they thought y'.

[Joe Ocho]

All. Can we pull up the clip to see your point?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, they thought.

[Joe Ocho]

There you go. You see Joe?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

They thought you were trying.

[Uncle Ocho]

They thought y' all were trying to Put shame on the king.

[Joe Ocho]

See, ain't nobody. Ain't nobody thought that. See, you added that joke. Ain't nobody said nobody put shame on the who.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, I'm saying. I'm saying.

[Joe Ocho]

I'm telling you what. CM Punky had no hat on.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm telling you what social media was thinking. They were thinking like, oh, man, they trying to put. They trying to put shame on the king.

[Uncle Joe]

You can't self proclaim yourself as a king. You can't do that, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ocho, then do we have to go through this?

[Uncle Joe]

I'm just saying you can't call yourself the king. You have to be appointed.

[Uncle Ocho]

I was anointed. Anointed? Ocho, you know what I. Hey, you know when I was in high school, this back in 1999, back in Little Rock, Arkansas, at D. Little Rock Central, you know I won homecoming king. Ocho, I was anointed back in the day in high school.

[Uncle Joe]

Real?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, man. I won homecoming king.

[Joe Ocho]

How you homecoming king and you don't even play football.

[Uncle Ocho]

It was. I won the basketball homecoming king. Doing the game, y'. All.

[Joe Ocho]

The basketball homecoming king. What kind of boy. Y' all ain't had a football team.

[Uncle Ocho]

Y' all don't have. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Don't act like y' all ain't got basketball homecoming now.

[Joe Ocho]

No, we don't.

[Uncle Joe]

I ain't never heard that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Who don't?

[Joe Ocho]

Nobody but you, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I'm true.

[Uncle Joe]

Homecoming king and queen is on football night. It's a football.

[Joe Ocho]

Football.

[Uncle Ocho]

They got a homecoming king for basketball tour. Where y' all from, bro? In the sticks. I know y' all from down.

[Joe Ocho]

I know. I have a basketball home.

[Uncle Joe]

Joe, I promise you, I've never heard of basketball. Homecoming king, queen. Now football.

[Uncle Ocho]

Man, y', all, what is.

[Joe Ocho]

What?

[Uncle Joe]

Chad is different down there.

[Uncle Ocho]

I need y'. All.

[Joe Ocho]

Chad.

[Uncle Joe]

Chad don't know. They don't know. Wait, what? Your school population was about 200?

[Uncle Ocho]

Chill, chilling. We had no ojo. We had close to about 500 people in my high school class. Now.

[Uncle Joe]

Damn. And just one class.

[Joe Ocho]

No, not your high school. Your graduating class.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, my high school graduating class.

[Uncle Joe]

Nah, you mean the whole old school. 500 kids,

[Joe Ocho]

Joe, I have never heard. Now, I done been to a lot of places. As a matter of fact, I'm getting ready to go to the county fair. But being from the south and being on a farm, I was in 4H. I went to county fairs. I went to two Go Goat shows and a cow show. I ain't never heard no issue like that when you got a basketball homecoming. I ain't never heard it. Oh, oh. Chad said they ain't never heard it either.

[Uncle Joe]

Matter of fact, yes.

[Joe Ocho]

It's homecoming. Man, what is wrong with y'? All, these people saying this?

[Uncle Joe]

No, homecoming, Homecoming for football game, you mean.

[Joe Ocho]

Hold on, you mean the prom? You was prom king. Now, I get it. If you say I was prom king. Because you got homecoming, you got prom, you got prom. So if you say I was the prom king, okay, Joe, congratulations. You got basketball hoop.

[Uncle Joe]

I ain't never heard of that.

[Joe Ocho]

What kind of bull job is that?

[Uncle Joe]

I ain't never.

[Uncle Ocho]

Man, y' all must grow up in some real rural areas to where it ain't. Y' all probably have stoplights.

[Joe Ocho]

Ninja, you from Little Rock, Arkansas.

[Uncle Ocho]

I know,

[Joe Ocho]

Like he from LA or New York.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey. Matter of fact. Hey, show me a picture, Joe. Show me a picture. You want homecoming king?

[Joe Ocho]

Show you a picture.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm gonna show you. I ain't got one.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

No, he's trying to use AI. You think you slick. Hey, he gonna use AI and try

[Joe Ocho]

to cream one ojo.

[Uncle Ocho]

You think I sit here and lie to you, bro? That's the last thing I'm gonna do. I ain't gonna lie to you, bro.

[Joe Ocho]

Like I said, if you say. Hey, Ocho, you know your boy? You know your boy?

[Commercial Narrator]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

I've been at this king thing for a minute now. This ain't the first time I've been ignored.

[Uncle Ocho]

The king.

[Joe Ocho]

They crowned me the king for the prom. Okay. You know your boy played a little football. I was the quarterback. I was a wide receiver. I was homecoming king. Gotcha.

[Uncle Ocho]

So y' all trying to.

[Uncle Joe]

Nah, something ain't right. Something ain't adding up.

[Uncle Ocho]

Dang, boy. Hey, boy. These people gonna talk about y'?

[Uncle Joe]

All? Not really.

[Joe Ocho]

Maybe. Maybe.

[Uncle Joe]

Not really.

[Joe Ocho]

Maybe y' all had a nice little pep rally. Y' all used to do it. Y' all had a pep rally, right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, man, we used to have pep rally. Come on, man. Y' all don't try to play us like that. I'm just saying,

[Uncle Joe]

if you had a basketball homecoming, ain't no telling what else y' all had.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hold on. So listen, when y' all tell me when these colleges, they have football homecoming, y' all do know they have a basketball. Basketball homecoming, too, right?

[Joe Ocho]

Not by neither, y', all, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, y' all stop playing crazy.

[Uncle Joe]

I promise you.

[Joe Ocho]

So y' all got a baseball homecoming, too? Track homecoming?

[Uncle Joe]

Nope.

[Joe Ocho]

So, what, we stopping today?

[Uncle Joe]

You gotta stop somewhere.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, man, y' all gotta chill, bro.

[Joe Ocho]

They had a wrestling, homecoming, football, homecoming, basketball, homecoming, soccer, baseball.

[Commercial Narrator]

Wow.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's crazy.

[Uncle Joe]

Maybe small areas that do that, Joe. Maybe a small area.

[Uncle Ocho]

No.

[Joe Ocho]

Maybe so.

[Uncle Joe]

Not down here in Miami.

[Joe Ocho]

Not that I know.

[Uncle Ocho]

Look, the chat telling y' all both, they tell.

[Uncle Joe]

I mean, the people in the chat that are saying both are probably from small rural areas like. Like Arkansas.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah, I mean, they probably. Yeah, they probably had a black and a white homecoming queen. Okay, I get it.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

Wow.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Joe, I don't believe you won

[Joe Ocho]

black and white proms. I mean, y', all. Y'. All. Y'. All.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, listen.

[Joe Ocho]

Hey, listen, listen.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, listen. Y' all want to put a stain on my crown so bad.

[Uncle Joe]

I don't want to put no stain on that. We just saying there's no way you want.

[Uncle Ocho]

Listen, I done figured y' all out. I done figured y' all out.

[Joe Ocho]

Boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Y' all want to put a stain on your boy so bad.

[Joe Ocho]

Y' all good?

[Uncle Joe]

Nah, we good. We good. Joe, I ain't even went homecoming king, so I know you ain't win when you was playing what, in high school? No.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ojo ocho. Hold on. I'm have to get my. Hold on. I'm about to get my stuff together on.

[Uncle Joe]

Y' all get a joke. Get it, Joe. Like, I. I ain't went home. Coming king. I. I won Class clown. I won that.

[Joe Ocho]

Hey, they got that one right all

[Uncle Joe]

the way through the NFL. What you see is what you get.

[Joe Ocho]

No, I didn't went home gr. I was Mr.

[Uncle Ocho]

Scene.

[Uncle Joe]

What that meant,

[Joe Ocho]

Who Most likely to Succeed. That's what that means. No, I won Mr. Senior. You had a Mr. When you're in your graduating class, you had a Mr. And Mr. C. Mr. And Miss. You had a Most Likely to Succeed. You had Most Talented. You had all Guess who got Most Likely to your book.

[Uncle Joe]

Okay, okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, hold on. So tell me something. Did y' all have a. Did y' all have, like, a senior banquet and all that?

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We had a senior banquet.

[Uncle Joe]

Did you have a senior trip? Y' all had a senior trip?

[Joe Ocho]

Yes. I didn't. What was I. Oh, Joe. Where was I gonna go? Where I was gonna get money?

[Uncle Joe]

Joe, y' all had a senior trip. I ain't go though where they went. Ours went to Disney World or Disneyland, whichever one is out here.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, it was.

[Joe Ocho]

It was.

[Uncle Ocho]

So it was somewhere like that.

[Joe Ocho]

We went on a cruise. So what was that? What was I gonna use for luggage? Piggly Weekly bags. I had no suitcase. The hell I Look like going to the cruise with. With grocery bags. Come on now. Yeah, I got my. I got my book. I can bring it to you. Most likely to succeed. Most athletic.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's what I'm gonna do. I have to get my yearbook.

[Joe Ocho]

Superlatives in Glenville history that can never be broken because it's not a high school anymore. I'm the only athlete to win most MVP in basketball, football, track, and senior athlete.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe Ocho]

The only one that did it. Sweet. Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, that's impressive. I ain't gonna lie to you.

[Joe Ocho]

Sweet stinks.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's impressive.

[Joe Ocho]

But I still ain't heard of the home basketball.

[Uncle Ocho]

Man, Y', all, this is what is crazy.

[Uncle Joe]

Self proclaimed king. Child, please.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know, you don't see the chat. The chat. Vouching it for everything I'm saying.

[Uncle Joe]

Nah, the chat,

[Joe Ocho]

they said both.

[Uncle Ocho]

They said it's a. It's a football homecoming and a basketball home.

[Joe Ocho]

We're gonna close the chat. Let's go. Close.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, we got the hold up.

[Joe Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey. I. I elo. I detected a voter fraud, so we about to close the chat.

[Uncle Joe]

Damn.

[Joe Ocho]

What's up?

[Uncle Ocho]

What's up, fellas? Y' all straight?

[Uncle Joe]

Are we good, Joe?

[Joe Ocho]

Okay.

[Uncle Joe]

Everything good, Joe?

[Joe Ocho]

Nearly four years to the day, the last appearance in his NBA game, Dwight Howard is officially retired from professional basketball. Joe Ocho, you first, Joe. Where do you rank, Dwight?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, I got him as far as centers up. He up there, bro. He up there. He. I, I had a chance to play against him in a. In a couple playoff series to where it was nothing we could do, bro. We had to let the man, like, we had to play him straight up because they were so good. This the year they went to the finals. They beat us that year, but then the following year we beat them. But he was so dominant, like, I'm talking about, like, to the point. Defensively, he could anchor the defense by himself. He was crazy athletic at 6:11, jumping out the gym like that. Like, defensively, bro, he just wrecked the game. It was just, it was special to watch, you know.

[Uncle Joe]

But you talk about, hey, Jodis or Orlando Magic.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Quarterback.

[Uncle Ocho]

He used to get to it, boy. He had everything he added, you know, he came into, he came into the league, not really a score, just a, you know, rim runner. And then he developed, you know, developed some post moves down there in the post. Uncle Ocho to where he was effective. And next thing you know, he was unstoppable. He was unstoppable, bro. He had a good career. He had a great career. Actually, he a Hall of Famer.

[Joe Ocho]

The only thing I say, they did him wrong. He deserves to be one of those top 75 players. There are some guys that got on there and I love, I think Anthony Davis is phenomenal. But Anthony Davis has not had a better career than Dwight Howard. When they selected his team, he didn't.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right.

[Joe Ocho]

I'm sorry, guys. And that's not. And I respectfully. And I, And I think, I think, I think Anthony Davis is a phenomenal player and he's, he's get gotten and earned everything that he deserves. Dwight Howard is one of the 75 best players in NBA history. His resume, the defensive player of the year, the all NBA selections. He finished second in the MVP voting. He anchored a team that went to the NBA Finals. They lost to Kobe. But Dwight Howard is a top 75 player.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely. Now, look, absolutely.

[Joe Ocho]

When you start talking about centers, you got Shaq and you got Kareem, you got Mr. Russell, you got Wilt, Mose Malone, Yoke

[Uncle Ocho]

and B.

[Joe Ocho]

No, I ain't taking the beat over him.

[Uncle Joe]

What do you rank them on? What do you rank, Dwight? I'm trying to get the greatest.

[Joe Ocho]

Kareem. Mr. Russell Will Shaq, Moses Malone, Nicola Jokic. That's six there.

[Uncle Joe]

What you put him at, like seventh or eighth?

[Uncle Ocho]

It's centers.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah, I'm thinking so. Ocho. Oh, no, no, no, no. He died. Hakeem, what the hell? Yeah, what the hell, man? Come on.

[Uncle Ocho]

Dave Robinson. You put Dave Robinson.

[Joe Ocho]

David Robinson.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, you forgot. But Tim Duncan considers it.

[Joe Ocho]

You're four.

[Uncle Ocho]

Power four. Okay.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah, man. I don't know where you put him

[Uncle Ocho]

in the top 10.

[Joe Ocho]

You haven't lost my damn mind. So. Yeah, I, I think you, I think you're a top 10 center. I think I give him top 10. Yeah, yeah. He ain't in the top five.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, he had a, he had a good career.

[Joe Ocho]

Ocho, it's time to play a play presented by prize picks. Oh, okay. Damn. What animation. All right. Joe Dejounte Murray, 211 1/2 points and assists. So when you combine points and assists, he'll have at least 21 and a half.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, hold on, hold on. D. Murray, he been out there acting a little different.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Standing over folks and all kind of mess. Ain't a man, any man. Hey, look, look, I, I, I like his energy. I say he gonna be over there.

[Joe Ocho]

He ready.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, look, he down for whatever. Put him, he over there. Uncle Ocho. Points and assists. Yeah, yeah, he getting to it. He ain't playing.

[Joe Ocho]

Derek Queen 2 1/2 assists.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I like Big fella. He can pass that thing. He got a nice deal for the game. He could pass it. Ocho as a center, he. He bring the ball up the court sometime. Kind of like Jokic, you know, they start the offense with him. Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

Kevin Durant will have at least 25 and a half points. Who they playing?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, they playing.

[Joe Ocho]

I think they playing the Pelicans, right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, they playing the Pelicans. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

Here.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, he'll get on some work.

[Joe Ocho]

And last but not least, Portland versus Utah. Robert Williams. Seven and a half rebounds.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hold on, Robin. Robin ball. I've been checking him out. He only thing is, is he starting? I think he coming off the bench.

[Joe Ocho]

I think he does, too.

[Uncle Ocho]

And seven and a half rebound. That's a lot. But I ain't gonna lie. He been putting up some. Yeah, some decent numbers. Can you click what. What he had the last couple games? Give me something. Give us some information. Give us a lifeline or something.

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[Uncle Ocho]

I know they normally.

[Joe Ocho]

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[Uncle Ocho]

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[Uncle Joe]

Hey, but he living under that goddamn glass.

[Uncle Ocho]

That boy eating glass. They playing Utah. Utah ain't playing nobody.

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[Uncle Joe]

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[Uncle Ocho]

What's happening?

[Joe Ocho]

Hey, my.

[Uncle Joe]

My bus came in.

[Uncle Ocho]

What bus?

[Uncle Joe]

My bus. You know, I told you I made.

[Uncle Ocho]

I made my own bus, man. That's hard.

[Joe Ocho]

Put it close.

[Uncle Joe]

You know, I had to make.

[Joe Ocho]

Put it closer in the camera.

[Uncle Joe]

You can't see it. Hey, hey. Hey, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

I like it, bro.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. This metallic. Metallic 14 karat gold.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, that's fine.

[Uncle Joe]

But let me tell you something. Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Go ahead.

[Uncle Joe]

Sometimes. Sometimes where they don't invite you to sit at the table, you know, Joe. You gotta create your own table, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hello. Hello.

[Joe Ocho]

I don't know what kind of gold that is, but you holding it pretty steady. Cause if that's gold, if that was real gold, boy, there ain't no way you holding it like that.

[Uncle Joe]

No, it's heavy. Unk.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's heavy.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, it's metallic gold. Gold flakes.

[Joe Ocho]

So it's gold flake. It's not full 14 karat.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, no. Cause then it would distort. It would distort, you know? But hey, it looked like. It looked just like me. Don't you?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, they did a good job, bro.

[Joe Ocho]

They did a Good job.

[Uncle Joe]

Look at Joe.

[Joe Ocho]

Hold on, Joe.

[Uncle Joe]

Look at the side profile, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Let me check you out. Oh, yeah. He got that head. Boy, that dome. You see, they got you, right?

[Uncle Joe]

It look like me, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, they got you right, bro.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Joe. So I'm gonna have it sitting back there. And then you know the jacket. You know the jacket I had on when I scold and I put that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

I'm afraid I'm a frame that up and have it sitting in the background with all of my war.

[Uncle Ocho]

Joe, man, that's gonna be fine.

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[Uncle Joe]

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[Uncle Ocho]

I had.

[Uncle Joe]

I had to make. I had to make my own, you know.

[Joe Ocho]

That's what my 5900 went.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, man, you, you, you. No, you good.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Where we at? That's three years. God.

[Uncle Joe]

I got him, Joe. Hey, I'm telling you what my grandma told me.

[Uncle Ocho]

You say that for three years.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

I thought we had got past that. That's all I'm saying.

[Uncle Joe]

Yo, long. Long as I. Long as I owe him, he'll never be broke, huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely. Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

You know, so anytime it's an emergency situation, you know, you break the glass. Yeah, break the glass. I got you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, Joe. The chat say Ocho went to the same people to do his statue that D. Wade got.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man. Come on, man.

[Uncle Joe]

Nah, Jody look just like me.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah. Yo, hey, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[Joe Ocho]

Hold on, hold on.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Joe. Hey, the chat maker. Hey, Ash, as you can show you. I'm gonna show you the picture I use. I was young. I was young, too. Hey, hey, Ash, can you show the side by side of the. Of the picture and the statue so the people can see? I sent it. I sent it to you. I texted to you. It's probably too late to put up, huh?

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah, that's the same. That's the same one. Whoever did this.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, yeah, Joe.

[Joe Ocho]

See the chat.

[Uncle Joe]

Chat trying to make it.

[Joe Ocho]

Whoever did D. Wade hooked up Ocho.

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[Joe Ocho]

Cause they right down there in Miami. So it was a two for one.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm saying you can't get that wrong, man.

[Joe Ocho]

That's.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on, man.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Joe. Yeah, see, I use a younger picture.

[Joe Ocho]

That look like Richard Jefferson.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, Unc, that. That look just like.

[Joe Ocho]

Look.

[Uncle Joe]

Look at the side by side, Joe.

[Joe Ocho]

Let me see. You see?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah, boy, that's you.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, it look just like me. I just use a younger picture.

[Joe Ocho]

Why you use a younger picture, Ocho? You ain't look like that in 25 years.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, but I wanted to use the picture when I was sexy.

[Joe Ocho]

See this?

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Joe, this the picture, right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

People gonna look at you and look at you now. Oh, Joe, you gotta use a more updated picture.

[Uncle Joe]

Nah, but, but, but, hey, but, Joe. Hey, hey, hey, Unc, this is when I was the sexiest man of the year.

[Joe Ocho]

I get that. But that was 20 years ago. People looking at you now, right?

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, but I don't want them to worry about. I want my best version of me. I want my bus to be the best version of me. I was sexy. I was a sex symbol back then, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I see what you got going on.

[Uncle Joe]

I ain't want to use the old me.

[Joe Ocho]

The old meat better be the catfishing people.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Chad, y' all making jokes? You see that? That's me. That's me there.

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