Best of NBA News Part 1: Thunder SWEEP Lakers + Wizards win #1 OVERALL pick + Daryl Morey OUT as Sixers Prez

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Best of NBA News Part 1

Episode Theme and Purpose
A lively and unfiltered roundtable of former NBA players and seasoned sports personalities join Shannon Sharpe to break down the hottest stories from the NBA playoffs: the OKC Thunder's unexpected sweep of the Lakers, the implications of the Wizards' shock lottery win and their #1 pick, and the ramifications of Daryl Morey's exit as Sixers President. The crew shares firsthand playoff perspectives, in-depth team analysis, and memorable locker room insights, all in the witty, tell-it-like-it-is tone Club Shay Shay fans love.

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Oklahoma City Thunder SWEEP Lakers: How Did It Happen?

[01:36–16:37]

Key Discussion Points

• Thunder’s Maturity & Depth

  • OKC played with the “composure of a champion” despite their youth.
  • Even with star Jalen Williams (J Dub) out, A.J. Mitchell steps up big: decisive, poised, and not afraid of the moment.
  • Team buy-in and role clarity set them apart: “Everybody on their team know they role, man. They a true champion.” – GP (Gab), [03:39]

• Shea Gilgeous-Alexander’s Leadership

  • “Shay gets whatever he wants … once it’s that mid-range game going, everyone’s drawn to him, and the other guys just sit in their comfort zones and shoot their shots.” – Joe, [08:10]
  • “When their best player goes to the bench … they eat that up.” – Shannon, [02:59]
  • On doubling Shea: “I would’ve doubled him. I would’ve just got the ball out of his hands.” – Joe, [08:45]

• Mitchell’s Breakout Performance

  • “Mitchell only makes $3 million a year … and now he’s doing this in the playoffs.” – Shannon, [14:21]
  • “We ain’t even really know nothing about Mitchell until this year… for this team to sacrifice the way they do, look at Caruso, look at Wallace – never rush the issue, they play the right way.” – GP, [13:32]

Lakers’ Perspective

• Turnovers & Fatigue

  • Careless turnovers at crucial times doomed the Lakers, especially late.
  • “Them 19 turnovers just hurt you…” – GP, [16:21], with Reeves (8 TOs), Marcus Smart (6), LeBron (4), Jackson Hayes (1).

• Defensive Issues

  • Lakers couldn’t stop OKC in isolation and had major defensive mismatches after picks.
  • “You want to run your offense and you want to put Austin Reeves and Luke Kennard out there… all they gonna do is call for the pick… Shay’s gonna eat every single time.” – Shannon, [15:27]

• Coaching Decisions

  • Debate over why best shooter was benched late: “We got a big fourth down situation … and the way y’all throwing the ball and Ocho ain't on the field. What the hell are we doing? He’s your best three-point shooter.” – Shannon, [29:26]

Memorable Quotes/Moments

• “They’re fast, but they’re never in a hurry.” – Shannon, [08:00]
• “The great ones, bro… know how to manipulate the game to get to wherever they want to on the floor.” – GP, [24:05]
• “You cannot stop a scorer. You just gotta contain him and hope that he have a bad game.” – Joe, [24:37]
• “The best ability is what? Availability.” – Group, [95:35]

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Western Conference Playoff Outlook: Thunder, Spurs, and Wolves

[16:57–28:38]

San Antonio vs. Minnesota Outlook

• Wembanyama’s Impact (“Wimby”)

  • Game changes entirely when he’s on the floor; rim protection, playmaking, and sheer size alter offense and defense.
  • “He the cheat code, bro. Because not only can he score, but he’s a hell of a distributor. He draws so much attention.” – GP, [18:26]

• Minnesota’s Chances

  • Panel split; Ocho boldly predicts upset thanks to “Ant Man” Anthony Edwards.
  • “For some reason, I think Minnesota’s gonna find a way to get it done.” – Ocho, [20:24]
  • Acknowledgment: Both teams have “dogs” and deep benches.

Knock-on Effects

• Concerns about too much rest for OKC due to sweeps while other series go long.

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NBA Draft Lottery Fallout: Wizards Win #1 Pick

[39:17–57:15]

Lottery Reactions

• Wizards win first overall pick with worst record: “The team with the worst record in each of the previous seven drafts failed to land the top overall pick… Surprise!” – Shannon, [39:17]
• Pacers lose pick due to February trade: “They rolled the dice and the dice didn’t turn over in their favor … Not for Jokic, not for Wemby. Zubots is a double double guy. But … the fifth pick?” – Shannon, [39:36]

Wizards’ Options

• Panel debates the wisdom of trading the #1 pick, with Utah fans hoping to move up:
  • “If I’m Washington don’t move on the pick, man. Go draft DeBonza, put him with Trae Young and A.D…” – GP, [42:56]
  • Hilarious negotiation roleplay on high demands for the #1 pick: “I'm gonna need your next four unprotected lottery picks. Do you want him or not?” – Shannon, [45:00]

Draft Class Analysis

• Consensus that this is a “deep draft” with “real stars coming in.”
• Projected top 4:
  • #1: DeBonza to Wizards
  • #2: Peterson to Utah
  • #3: Boozer to Memphis
  • #4: Caleb Wilson to Bulls

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Sixers Shake-Up: Daryl Morey Out

[61:31–93:10]

Morey’s Philly Tenure Graded

• “I give him an F… because he gave Embiid an extension that he didn’t have to.” – Shannon, [62:42]
• Critique of James Harden trade and lack of playoff breakthroughs: “You think you could have used those first round picks at some point, Joe?” – Shannon, [65:30]
• Repeated mismanagement: “Who gave these contracts?” – Shannon, [68:33]

Embiid’s Future & Franchise Chemistry

• Locker room tension, especially after the Jerry McCain trade: “Joel Embiid reportedly hasn’t seen eye to eye with the Sixers front office … he, along with others, were not happy with the decision to trade second year guard Jerry McCain to the Thunder.” – Shannon, [76:44]
• “If that’s Philly, I got two guards that are off the chain … I’d build right there.” – Joe, [78:31]
• “Are you saying move off Embiid? I would.” – Joe, [79:21]
• Blunt on Embiid’s injury risk: “You don’t want a more expensive Anthony Davis. He plays less than AD.” – Shannon, [80:09]

Embiid’s Trade Value and Durability Debate

• “In 10 years, he’s averaged playing 49 games a season.” – Shannon, [90:00]
• “You done missed more games than you done played and made all that money. Come on, man.” – Joe, [87:38]
• Panel doubts a team like Miami—with Pat Riley’s body fat rules—would take Embiid: “He won’t go. He’ll go get Giannis before you do that.” – Joe, [86:11]
• Comparing Ironman careers: “I played 17 seasons and I only missed 25 games.” – Joe, [94:52]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Thunder's Playoff DNA:
  “The thing is, you said the problem that they had tonight, that even when they doubled and got the ball out of Shay’s hands, hey, Mitchell hit a three, McCain hit a three. … At some point in time, you just tip your hat and say, man, that’s just too good.” – Shannon, [11:33]

• On Being Durable:
  “The best ability is what? Availability.” – Group, [95:35]

• On the Business of Basketball:
  “It’s a dirty business, but I love it.” – Ocho, [75:19]

• On Management Mistakes:
  “You got to be careful with your best players recruiting. … Jerry Krause never listened to anything that Jordan had to say.” – Shannon, [69:55]

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Important Timestamps

• Thunder sweep Lakers breakdown: [01:36–16:37]
• Playoff matchups, Spurs vs. Wolves: [16:57–28:38]
• Draft Lottery and Wizards’ strategy: [39:17–57:15]
• Daryl Morey out in Philly: [61:31–93:10]
• Debate: Embiid’s value and future: [76:38–93:10]
• Durability/Ironman stories: [94:02–95:35]

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Episode Takeaways

• The Thunder’s sweep marks a tectonic shift in the West—youth, depth, and discipline matter more than star power if everyone buys in.
• Lakers’ demise boils down to turnovers and fatigue, exposing flaws in roster construction and real-time coaching decisions.
• The NBA’s draft lottery continues to transform long-suffering franchises, while high-profile trades (like the Pacers’ for Zubac) can backfire spectacularly.
• Philadelphia faces a crossroads; Morey’s ouster highlights front office missteps and the perils of tying a franchise to an injury-prone superstar.
• Availability is king: the panel—through laughter and war stories—reminds listeners that missing games, no matter the talent level, undermines legacy and team building.
• The business of basketball is ruthless, and everyone, from front office to bench role player, is just one decision away from a whole new reality.

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Want the drama, laughs, and inside perspective you get from Club Shay Shay? This episode has it all—insightful hoops IQ, never-too-serious banter, and a who’s who of former stars serving it up real and raw.

Transcript

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[GP (Gab)]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

So that is the difference because that is what they can do that very few teams can do that when their best player goes to the bench, a lead, they eat that up. And if they got the lead, they'll extend the lead. If they're behind, they'll come and get the lead and he comes back in the game. And Shay did. Shay did what to do, but thanks. All the big shots that they hit down the stretch. McCain, big three after big three. Jay Mitchell, the and one. It was just. It was just too much for them to overcome. Joe, what did. What did you like most about what you saw from the OKC Thunder? Because a lot of teams might want to panic. Like, look, we got three in the bag. Let's go back home and close this thing out. But they say, nah, we want to go on and finish this thing up the right way. Do it tonight, man.

[GP (Gab)]

Listen, hey, as we all know, man, you know, champions prevail, bro. They found ways to win. I agree with you. I think the AJ Mitchell kid, I don't know where he came from. GP Ocho, I don't know where he came from, but he fit perfectly. You know, when I watch him play, it's more how decisive he is when he's out there. Like, he don't have no indecision on what it is he trying to do. He get right to it, bro. It's like, look, I know the game plan. Yeah, we got J Dub out, who's an all star. Oh, well, I'm gonna step right in. I fit like a glove, you feel me? And I think the Lakers played as great as they could play. I mean, they had three guys with 20 and high efficiency. I'm like, damn. They might have a chance to win, but OKC just got too much, bro. They got closers, they got defenders, they play great team defense. And everybody on their team know they role, man. They a true champion. True champion.

[Shannon]

Okay, jp, Go ahead, take it away. What you thought? What did you see in this game?

[Joe]

I'm gonna go, yeah, well, well, you know, Shannon, I think the turnovers, they beat them really toughly. I mean, when they had. When they got key stops, even though Oklahoma made big shots, even when they had big time stops, they turned the basketball over on unnecessary situations. And against basketball team like Oklahoma, you cannot turn the ball over because they're going to capitalize because they are a great half court team and that's what it was. I just thought they turned the ball over just even though, even when at the end of the game, when it was 107-109-lebron gets a big time, a stop, get a rebound and he turns the basketball over. You know what I'm saying? You can't do that. And then they come right back and then what they do, they hit a three and go up five. So you can, you can't do that in this situation. I think the Lakers lost his game on their own. But you gotta understand, Oklahoma City, they got eight deep. We haven't even talked about Du Boy Wallace. Du Boy Wallace is, is a key, key ingredient to this too. The boy Mitchell comes up, but hitting deep on his Oklahoma team. And the way they play aggressive, I think it's, it's hard to beat this basketball team.

[GP (Gab)]

Man.

[Shannon]

You, you, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right, guys. And you think about it, Chad, I think Chad had maybe like 2 points, maybe 4 points heading to that fourth quarter. And he ends up with like 16, 17 points. Shay, Shay, with Shay started getting to the free throw line, hit big shots. But I just think the thing is, is that it's just so hard because I, I know JJ wanted to play Kenard and Austin Reeves together, but the problem is that they're going to set the pick and one of those guys is going to have to guard Shay one on one and he's going to eat every single time. Go ahead onto.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Now I want to tell you, obviously most of the people watching the game, especially you guys, you knew how the result would be. In order for the Lakers to win this game, Unc Joe and Gary and gp, the Lakers would have had to be perfect. They would have had to damn near be perfect. And obviously the turnovers, that was their Achilles heels tonight. Obviously defensively they got beat a few times. They had no answer for Mitchell. Hell, they had no answer for goddamn Shay as well. But obviously no one's had an answer for Shay. But what Mitchell has been able to do and coming through and clutch moments and being resurgence that we didn't even see, you know, before, like this has been phenomenal. I thought, you know, for your sake, being that you went to the game and I know it was a pretty penny, I was hoping they could pull

[Joe]

this game off just for you.

[Ocho]

Listen, it would have been a good one for you too. To be able to watch them. But it was unbelievable. It was unbelievable. I mean, goddamn Oklahoma City Thunder are so strong and really have no weaknesses offensively, defensively, in transition, on the glass, on the board. I mean, there's really no answer to really stop these individuals because not only are they, not only just starting five deadly, they can go to the bench and give you whatever you need. When the starters, when the starters are out as well.

[Shannon]

You know what I notice guys watching them up close, not one time did I ever think somebody took a bad shot. They get whatever. They don't, they don't, they don't take bad shots. They're never in a hurry.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Shannon]

And if they can get a chance to get out in transition, they get out in transition. But you know what it is? They're fast, but they're never in a hurry. But you understand what I'm saying?

[Joe]

But you know what, Shannon? The reason that is, is that Shay gets whatever he wants when he gets there. And once it's that mid range game going, a lot of people are now focused on him. And then the other guys just sit where they got to sit. You may receive Chad, he always around the basket. They throw up lobs, they throw that. And then the other guys sit there in their, in their, in their comfort zone and just shoot their shots, make buckets. And that's why they don't speed up, because he has the ball in control. I think sometime to get them out of their, their situation, I think you gotta, you just gotta double, double shank sometimes.

[Shannon]

Yes.

[Joe]

Just get the, pass the ball out of his hand and then see what everybody else does. I would do that more to make it understanding because I can't beat them with him having 35 and everybody else having something else. If I can get him to have 14, 16 and everybody else around has to have a big, big time game. And the Lakers couldn't do because they don't have anybody to guard it. I would have doubled him. I would have just got the ball out of his hands because pressuring pretty well and he would have denied him the basketball. But they just didn't do that.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[GP (Gab)]

Hey, I think when you think about it, when you look at the Lakers, bro, it seemed like, yeah, yeah, these guys shot high percentages from the field tonight. They, I mean, it's probably the best game they played. But it seems, it always seems like it's hard for them to come by buckets. You know, they always gotta make tough shots. It seems like soon as they make a tough shot, hell, okc Come down and score so easy because Shay and Mitchell, they great in isolation, bro. They great in using their body. They great in using them bumps to create a little space just to get they jumpers off. They never in a rush, bro. They have an understanding on the spots that they're trying to get to. And you can't stop them from getting to them spots. If you don't double team them, hell, this what you gonna have to deal with. And I just think the Lakers, as great as they played tonight, here you get what, 18 from Jackson Hayes, you probably ain't gonna never get that again. Six for eight. I thought it was perfect for him to win the game. But the last three minutes, the back and forth. Oh my God, you talking about basketball at his highest level. But I knew they couldn't stop okc, bro. It don't matter, you know what I mean? AR making tough buckets. Bron making tough buckets. And gp, you spoke on, you know, you spoke on another thing earlier. It's them damn careless ass turnovers that they have that lead to points, bro. I'm talking about in crucial, crucial times of the game. Under 2 minutes, 3 minutes. Man, you got to value the basketball against this OKC team because this is how, this is how they thrive. You know, their defense creates offense. Hell, they already got great offensive guys. The defense creates offense too. Too much of a juggernaut. Hell, we ain't think the Lakers gonna win this series, but we thought they.

[Joe]

And Joe, you've seen it too, Oklahoma. Like you said, make shots, you know, and they make crucial shots.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And see, you remember when LeBron went in there and was fast and missing that, that little, that little runner and stuff like that, he's got to go get into somebody body and get to the free throw line. You know, in a situation like that, get to his body, get a free throw and then see what happens. But you know, okay, see, they go there, Shay gets in his bag and then next thing you know, he makes a great pass. And it was great. Look what Chad did when he was down there. He pumped fake, pump fake, went up, they thought he traveled and he dunked the basketball on a crucial time in the game. And they go up one. See that? That's the difference between them two teams.

[GP (Gab)]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon]

And the thing is, you said the problem that they had tonight, that even when they doubled and got the ball out of Shay hands, hey, Mitchell hit a three, McCain hit a three. And what they do is that they play high low with the big. So they trap Shay, he throws It. Till he throws it to Hartenstein. To Hartenstein. Takes one dribble. He throws the lob. And here comes Shay hammering it down. So I thought they did. Look, I was saying the same thing. Get the ball out of Shay's hands, but. And you say let somebody else beat you? Well, I'd be damned if Mitchell didn't do it. And Kane. Kane hit a. McCain hit a couple of threes. I'm like, bro, he been sitting for, like, 10 minutes. He just come off. He come off a pick and shoot it from 25. At some point in time, Joe, GP, you know, this guy Ocho, you just tip your hat and say, man, that's just too good. Yeah, that's just too good.

[Joe]

Well, Shady, you know they gonna make shots. But like we say, I still have to let. Not have Shay have 35. I can't do it. I gotta let them beat me another way. You know, the team that makes them do that is the San Antonio Spurs. They make them do that. San Antonio makes other people play. And then that big boy over there block his. So hopefully, if we see that series, I think it'll be a little different. I think they're going to trap Shay a little bit more, and then we'll see what happens. And that'll be a great series, you know, for me. You know, I would love to see that again.

[GP (Gab)]

Hey, G.P. hold up, though. I ain't think. I didn't think Marcus Smart done a bad job. This the first game. He really got out on him, just to be honest. I mean, he shot 15 free throws. He won 12, 15 from the line. But I'm like, y', all, man. I think Shay understood the moment. And the way him and Mitchell play off each other, bro, it's unbelievable to watch because you, like, damn. We ain't even really know nothing about Mitchell until this year. If y' all just want to keep it 100 for this team to sacrifice the way they do, look at Caruso. Look at Isaiah, Joe.

[Shannon]

Look at.

[GP (Gab)]

Look at Wallace. Like, those guys, they never rush the issue, bro. They play the right way. The system is great. And like you say, when Shade's not on the court, hell, you still can't run away. And if you trap him on the pick and roll, fellas, Hardenstein is too clever when it comes to distributing the ball, making plays. He ain't gonna do nothing that's gonna hurt you. So you trap, and it goes to him. He got the hollow with big Fella. He can spray out the three. You just got way too many options. You can get up. And his touch around the basket is impeccable. He has a nice little flow game, Hardenstein. So I think OKC is tough to beat. And you. You can't. You can't just take Shay out, bro. They got too many ways.

[Shannon]

True, Joe. Hey, gp.

[Joe]

And they ain't even got Williams.

[Shannon]

Hey, but.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah, that's what.

[Shannon]

Here's the thing, though. Here's the thing, though. I mean, you know, Mitchell only make $3 million a year and they got him under contract for the next two years, plus a club auction now and now. Hey, hey, hey. I like Williams, too. But y' all telling me Williams is that much better than this kid?

[Joe]

Well, no, he ain't that much better, but he make 230 million.

[Shannon]

That's my point. But just think about. But just think about if I take Mitchell 3 million and then I go get me. So I can go get. I can get a lot of players for two plus GP in ISO.

[Joe]

Yeah, they might.

[Shannon]

Hey, but look, he in the. This is a playoff. This ain't no regular season game. Now, he doing this in the playoffs.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah, yeah, I agree. He did a hell of a job. He did a hell of a number on the Lakers. But I think the test will come if they have to play the spurs, because he gonna have guys who gonna be able to go off the dribble go at him and guys who can defend. You know, Lakers. We already know Lakers ain't got no damn guards who could defend outside of Marcus Smart. And he was doing a hell of a job against Shay.

[Shannon]

Yeah, you're right.

[GP (Gab)]

He can only guard one of them. You know what I mean?

[Shannon]

And that's the problem that they got, Joe, when you look at San Antonio, they can throw champagne at him, they can throw Vasil at him, they can throw, obviously, Castle at him. So they can throw a lot of different bodies at him. And so they don't necessarily have to trap. Because when you want to run your offense and you want to put Austin Reeves, who can score, you want to put a guy that can space the floor and Luke Kennard. The problem that you run in is that all they're going to. All he's going to do is call for the pick. Whoever's guarding their guard, he going to call for the pick. They're going to come pick the. They're going to come get the pick. And then guess what? They gotta deal with him one on one. And it's every time. And that's every time. And so I was saying trap him and get the ball out of his hands. But he was making the right decisions. He was getting the ball out of his hands, and the guys were knocking down shots. And that's when I say, you know what? Hey, guys, I done did everything I possibly could. I kicked him, I hit him. I called the cops on him. And they said, well, nothing we could do. They said, nothing we could do.

[GP (Gab)]

Hey, them 19 turnovers just hurt you Alter.

[Shannon]

Reeves had eight. He had eight by himself. I think Marcus Smart had. Marcus Smart had six. I think LeBron had four. Yeah, that's just far too many turnovers. All right, guys, I'm at the hotel now, so I'm heading up to the room. I'll see y' all in about two minutes.

[GP (Gab)]

All right, we'll catch you in a second. Hey, Ocho.

[Ocho]

Yes, sir. Talk to me.

[GP (Gab)]

That was a hell of a game, though, bro.

[Ocho]

It was. It was. But listen, Joe, I think there are a lot of people that were watching the game. Those that are fans. Fans of just NBA basketball in general. Yeah, I think they were probably hoping that the Lakers could pull this off.

[Shannon]

I was.

[GP (Gab)]

I ain't gonna lie.

[Ocho]

I think they were hoping.

[Joe]

Well, Chad, you know, they wanted to see another game, man. They don't want everybody to be. Because that San Antonio, Minnesota game, Minnesota series is gonna go get seven games. They gonna go seven. So it's gonna give Oklahoma too much rest, man, and then we gonna see what happened. I wanted to see if the Lakers go one more. Let's go one more to make. To make TV and make us see basketball, you know, Jeff, we want to see basketball, man. We didn't want to see them sweep them, man. So the other. Man, it's crazy that we see we got two sweeps, but the other two series is two.

[Shannon]

Two.

[Joe]

I'm happy Detroit lost today, so we

[Shannon]

can see them a little bit more.

[Joe]

They gonna go. They gonna go seven, I think.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah, you think? Hold up, G.P. you think Minnesota and the spurs gonna go seven?

[Joe]

I think so. I think.

[GP (Gab)]

I see. My thing is, it's an even game. Hell, if we be ain't out there, we just playing pickup. But when we be out there, GP it's different.

[Joe]

Because Joe, he changes shots. He do things. He's so big, he can handle the basketball. He just altering a lot of things, man, and he changes the game. But when he get out, everybody else is. Whatever. You know what I'm saying?

[Shannon]

So, yeah, I mean, it's whatever.

[Joe]

And if he don't play 44, 45 minutes, they ain't gonna win. They're not Gonna win. You see, when he got kicked out the other night, they couldn't do nothing to him, man. You don't.

[GP (Gab)]

Nah, it's an even game when he's not out there. But when he is out there, I agree with you. He the cheat code, bro. Because not only can he score, but he's a hell of a distributor. He get guys involved because he draws so much attention. And hell, all you gotta do is throw the ball toward the rim and

[Joe]

he gonna go get it.

[GP (Gab)]

It's just too much. He puts so much pressure on you. And even if he don't block your shot. Gp. Hell, when you drive in there, he the first person you thinking about, like, damn, hold on. Can I get this off? Do I need to just kick it out? Yeah, where he at? You know what I mean? So he always got you thinking, you know, when he's out there on the floor. And when he went out the other night, you seen how the lane just opened up? Guys were just kind of getting what they wanted. You know, they were playing. Both teams playing small ball. And I felt like the advantage was for Minnesota because they got Randall. You know, Randle has to be that bull in the china shop. He got to continue to put his head down and make things happen. And I think, you know, Minnesota got a chance, but I don't know if they can win the series.

[Joe]

I don't think they can win the series either, Joe, but I know, I think they gonna beat them. They gonna beat them in Minnesota in Game 6. I think San Antonio will come out and probably try to destroy them in game five. So I don't like it. Shoot, man, we can get on a Sunday and see tv. Maybe we can see one. You know, that would be good to see two game sevens, man, to just see who go. Who can go to the. To their conference final. That'd be great.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah, I think. My bad. Go ahead, Ojo.

[Ocho]

Now, I won't say, for some reason, I don't know why, Joe, and I've been right with my basketball take so far, especially during the playoffs, agp. I've been right about all my takes so far. Right. But I have a feeling, I don't know why, as much of a difference as Wemby makes when he's on that court, whether it's defensive, offensively, for some reason, I think Minnesota's gonna find a way to get it done. I don't know why I'm saying

[Shannon]

I

[Ocho]

do a GP out of gp. I don't know why, Joe. I. I have no idea. Obviously, both of you have played the game at a very high level. They, you know much more about the game than I do. The people in the chat are probably gonna laugh at me and say, ocho, please, you don't know ball, sit this one out. But for some reason, GP And Joe, I have no idea why. I just feel they're going to find a way to get it done.

[Joe]

Just like last year. Chad, they did it last year, man. They fooled. They got into the Western Conference final the same way. And people didn't think, if that boy, if that boy Edwards get hot or something like that, man, hey, it could happen.

[Shannon]

Because it's too true now.

[GP (Gab)]

And we didn't think it was going to be like this now.

[Shannon]

Nah.

[GP (Gab)]

But hey, but listen, listen, G.P. you know, ant man, he continue to. He's getting healthier and healthier by the day. I think that's been the key thing because to start the series, you remember now, he was coming off the bench and by game three when they got home, hell, he was starting and he been a whole totally different monster. But my thing is, when you think about it, fellas, with Wimby getting kicked out the other night, I know he pissed off about that G.P. you know, he probably gonna come out trying to prove a point, you know, put his stamp on the game hella early. So I think it's going to be a tough. I think it's going to be A tough Game 5 for Minnesota, but obviously they've won on the road. They've won in San Antonio before. I think they can. They may can do it again, but I think. I think the spurs going to be way too desperate, you know, to be able to lose games.

[Joe]

Not this with Joe. Joe, they're going to blow them out, Joe. I know San Antonio gonna get out. They're gonna blow them out. They gonna blow them out in San Antonio, man. Watch what I tell you. Yeah, Minnesota ain't gonna have a chance.

[Shannon]

But you know what, guys watching the game up close in the Y shape, because I. I've seen the Thunder play before and I've watched him before. Yeah, bro, he is so methodical. He knows. He's like, I want to get here. Now I'm gonna let you push me all over here, and I'm gonna let you. If I gotta go. Look here, all I know is I'm going to California. Now if I gotta go to New York and I gotta go to Massachusetts and come back down to drive down to Miami, cut through Georgia and Alabama, I already know all of that, but I'm Gonna get to California, and you cannot stop me, bro. Think about it. In that fourth quarter, the aim one that he hit, Marcus Smart can't play it any better than that. He played it, beat it to the spot. He challenged the shot. He hit the shot, he fouled it, and he made it. What he do? He get Jackson Hayes in a switch from three.

[GP (Gab)]

Boom.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

J. Mitchell, what'd he do? He get him in a switch. Boom. And no matter what, just. And Mitchell, man. Bro, he made some shots tonight. He made some shots tonight. I still. Cause I was at the. I was at their end where they in the second half. So I can see. I'm like, ain't no way he gonna make. How he make that with that angle.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

And the guys around me like, man, how did he. Bro, Hell, I'm asking my damn self how he made that. I just want y' all to know y' all gonna see this outfit again. I got had it on for two hours a night. It's an lv, and I'm wearing it a damn game. So when you see. Hey, you're damn right. And I got it on again. So I'm just telling you now, keep your mouth closed. Cause I'm aware it again.

[Ocho]

Hey, I'm telling my. I'm telling the man. They business, man. Hey, get your wares out there. Get your money.

[Shannon]

I'm take Club Shachet episode in it tomorrow. So you gonna see it again in three weeks, and you're gonna see it again out somewhere. Get my money worth out of this. You damn skippy.

[GP (Gab)]

Hey, fellas. Hey. When you look at it, Unc Ocho GP the great ones. The great ones, bro, they. They understand the moment. They know how to get to their spots. I don't give a damn what you do, bro. You know, they know how to manipulate the game. Gp. You know this, bro. Playing at the highest level, winning title. Hey, the. The great ones aren't the great guards, bro. They know how to manipulate the game to get to wherever they want to on the floor. Hey, if you don't trap him and get the ball out of his hands, he probably gonna make.

[Shannon]

Yes.

[Joe]

Hey, Joey, just like a Michael Jordan, man. I played against that dude all my career, man. He. When it's time for him to play, they play. You know what I'm saying? They go and get their money's worth where it's at. He reminds me because of his mid range game as a young DeMar DeMar DeRozan. They right there in their mid game and they stay that way. And he makes shots. You know what I'm saying? Like I tell people, you cannot stop a score. You just got to contain him and hope that he have a bad game and then let everybody else hit him. But this Oklahoma team, they got too many weapons around them. And they may.

[Shannon]

Yes.

[Joe]

And it opens everything up. And then you can't. You can't doubling. You can't. Because if they making shots, you can't doubling. And then you gotta hope that somebody can guard him. And the Lakers didn't have nobody. Reeves and, and Canard can't guard him. You know, if they switch on him, they lunch me. That's. That's here.

[Shannon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, they can't guard it. Think about how they started the game. Lou Dorr hit three, two bomb threes. So now you like, well, damn, Caruso comes in, he makes three bomb threes. And so you say, well, damn, if we trap him and they hitting shots. Mitchell, Mitchell was 12 of 18. We've seen Mitchell play at a level, at an elite level that look, some of it is the Lakers because they can't defend. But I don't want to shortchange the guy because the guy's been playing extremely well. He didn't make the playoff roster last year. Now this man looking like, he like, hold on. I got teams out there looking like, hold on, wait a minute. He need to be on our team doing that. He don't need to be on no bench. He don't need to be on OKC's bench. He needs to be on our bench starting. He's good. Look, and Chet and those big guys, they deter you because they every but a seven foot tall and you ain't getting anything easy. Cause even when they just go straight up, you can't see the basket. I'm like, what the.

[GP (Gab)]

No, sir.

[Shannon]

But they, but they play well off because they're not a whole lot of team. They ain't but what two teams. Them in Cleveland that really play two bigs in their starting lineup. Everybody, everybody. Everybody else got a big. And then everybody basically, you know, they got two legit big 6, 6, 11, 16. Now granted, Alan, Jared Allen is only 6, 9, but he got a 75 wingspan. But these guys, these two guys are legit 7 foot tall. You watch this team. I watched them watch the. I watched the substitution pattern. They're going to keep a score on there. They're going to have three. They're going to have three defenders and a big. They're going to keep a score, three defenders and a big. So it is going to be Ludor, it's going to be Wallace, it's going to be Caruso, it's going to be some combination. And then you're going to have Shea and you're going to have one of those big. You have Hartenstein or you're going to have Chet. So they're like. So they can switch a lot of things. And those big guys move better than you think. They not slugs.

[Joe]

They're not slugs.

[Shannon]

They are not nailed to the floor.

[GP (Gab)]

Hey, hey. When you look at Hardenstein, he was a plus 30 tonight, fellas. He was the highest plus minus tonight. The men only had five points, 10 rebounds, five assists, three steals. He. He is such a pivotal part of what Oklahoma City does offensively and defensively. Like, he plays hard as I don't know what. And then he's a great facilitator, bro, in getting other guys involved. I think OKC got a great mixture now. I think everything is yet to be seen whether they can compete with the spurs like this because the spurs is such a juggernaut and I think it'll be a hell of a series. But obviously they got to get out of that series against the T Wolves. But OKC got everything you need, bro, from scores to hard workers, great teammates. I think from top to bottom, it's gonna be hard to beat these boys.

[Joe]

But Joe, the thing that they got over Everybody is all 10 of them dudes coming in. They play deep, they play on. And you know what I'm saying? And they don't let off. So you don't ever get a let off when somebody sub for somebody. So that's why it's so hard to beat this team. But think that that spurs team match up with them very, very well, athletically wise.

[Shannon]

Because they got defenders also.

[Joe]

Yeah, they got defenders too. And you remember that they.

[Shannon]

They won.

[Joe]

They won 41 in. In the. In the. In the regular receipt, but they didn't make the regular season. Now this is playoffs, so we got to see what happens. But I still think that'll be a good matchup because I think both of them teams are going to play deep. And both of them got on. All of them got dogs. And everybody got people coming off the fence too. They both got dogs. So I think I need somebody to

[Shannon]

explain this to me. The game time 3. The guy that has the highest field goal, the highest 34 percentage in playoff history, the guy that's leading the Lakers in threes, why the hell was he on the court? I need gp. You played Joe you played, Joe, you an all star, GPU in the hall of Fame, got Olympic gold medal. I need you to explain. Ocho is the equivalent of your best wide receiver if the same thing would happen. And you, I don't know if you guys remember, y' all remember USC played Texas and they have a 4th and 1 and Reggie Bush ain't on the field. The guy that won the high trophy, he ain't on the field. We got a big a fourth down situation. And the way y'. All. Y' all throwing the ball and Ocho ain't on the field. What the hell are we doing? Well, he's your best three point shooter.

[Joe]

Well, Shannon, you know what that. That was called? I think JJ really went off the defensive end because he thought that Canard couldn't guard anybody. So he didn't want to switch up because they were getting into pick and roll and they was keeping Canard in the pick and roll. And every time they got in the pick and roll with Canard, something special happened. So he couldn't guard nobody. So he said, man, if I could stop him, I can go down there and score with Reeves and them like that. And I think that's what his decision was made, you know, for defense instead of offense. And it probably wasn't a good. Good, a good choice, but that's just the way it go, man. That's what I thought he thought.

[Shannon]

Gp. Oh, Joe, you get the rebound, you get a stop. I'm taking a time out because I want the best. I want the best three point shooter in the game. In the game.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon]

I gotta think about something. He hit a four point play to tie the game up. He hit big shot after big shot after big shot. He's been hitting big shots. If you look at it the four games, he's been their most consistent offensive player.

[GP (Gab)]

No question. No question.

[Shannon]

I gotta get him in the game, guys. And I understand what you're saying. It's like, okay, defense, okay, We've done what we're supposed to do. And I know you don't want to burn your time out, but I got to have him on the court. I just got him. Yeah.

[GP (Gab)]

Hey, look, I understand what you're saying. I think due to timing and the set that they ran when Austin Reeves kind of came up and got the ball, I don't think they wanted OKC to foul, you know what I mean? Which is why I think AR kind of, you know, he probably should have shot as soon as he caught it, but he took an extra dribble to try to get a little closer. But I, I, I mean, I get it. You know, Rui probably should have been in the game. And you're right, he been the most consistent guy, you know, from an offensive standpoint. I mean, hell, he shot the lights out this whole entire series. Yeah, I mean, he played great off run and ar. I mean, I'm like you, man. I'm watching like, damn, big shot after big shot, you know, just, just staying engaged, bro. I thought they played well enough to win offensively, man. They just can't stop no damn body. Hell, we knew that.

[Shannon]

The turnover, like you said, if I, first of all, if I got a, if I got a, if my offense is pedestrian, the last thing I can do is turn the ball over because it's so hard. I have to expend so much energy GP to get back into the ball game that by the time I get back, I get even with it. It's two, three minutes left. I'm out of gas.

[Joe]

And then Shannon. It's unnecessary turnovers. Yeah, it's throwing the ball away, man. Just throwing it up there. And they tipping the ball. One time, Smart just turned around and threw the ball and it was the interception, but nobody even there at half yards.

[Shannon]

I said, what are you doing? I was right there. I know what to play. And Austin Reeves tried to throw, trying to feed, tried to feed Rui from

[Joe]

half court, and he threw the ball underneath. Underneath.

[Shannon]

I'm like.

[Joe]

And then you remember. And then you remember, Smart did it again and they kicked the ball off the backboard and came back. You know what I'm saying? Them turnovers right there is costly, especially LeBron's turnover with only a minute to go, man. It was a minute.

[Shannon]

In fact, now you. Because at that point in time, what were they? Were they down?

[Joe]

They was only down 2, 107. 109. They could come down there and put pressure on them, but they came right back. And then you remember they hit a three and they went up five.

[Shannon]

Yep.

[GP (Gab)]

Listen, they, they playing too many damn minutes, fellas. Them dudes tired, man.

[Shannon]

Played 40 minutes. Rui play. He played. Rui played 43. I mean, he's trying to give Braun. The problem is, is that he's trying to give Braun a minute here. Okay? Time out there, so we'll give you a minute. They're gonna take a time out, so that'll give you extra. But he was exhausted. He was exhausted. And the thing is, look, your recovery, I don't care what anybody tell you, as you start to get older. Your recovery ain't what it once was.

[Joe]

Gp Absolutely. You know it, Shannon. Shoot, when you get in them 40s, man, your body you gonna go lay down, man, and that stuff gonna be

[Shannon]

hurting for like seven, eight days, you know, back in the. Hey, back in the day, you like, hey, oh, baby, let me catch my breath now. I. I ain't what I used to be.

[Joe]

Hey, man, hey, let your boy get a glass of water.

[Shannon]

Keep a glass of water inside the bed. It get hot, I go drink.

[Joe]

Now it take me 8, 7 days to get back.

[Shannon]

You gotta think about that, man.

[Joe]

And then you playing against people's bodies now and.

[Shannon]

Exactly, man.

[Joe]

What you think that's gonna happen?

[Shannon]

Marcus Smart tonight has six turnovers, five fouls, two buckets.

[GP (Gab)]

Damn.

[Joe]

What did Reeves have? I mean, how many turnovers? Reeves.

[Shannon]

Reeves had eight.

[Joe]

I knew it. I knew it.

[Shannon]

Yeah, they can't win like Reeves had eight, Marcus Smart had four, I mean, had six, LeBron had four, and Jackson Hayes had one.

[GP (Gab)]

Damn, it's hard to win, man. You get 19 turnovers, bro, in a game like this here, you gonna lose, bro. Cause okt, they don't turn the ball over like that. They had 11 tonight, but they normally don't turn the ball over.

[Joe]

Joe, they had 19 turnovers within four players.

[Shannon]

That's. That's the problem.

[Joe]

You ain't never heard of that? Nine, 19 turnovers. They four players? Come on, that's insane. You can't do that.

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[Shannon]

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[Shannon]

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[GP (Gab)]

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[Podcast Host (Point Game)]

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[Joe]

We do some retirement homes.

[Robert Smigel]

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[Shannon]

What's up, fam?

[Isaiah Thomas]

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[Podcast Host (Point Game)]

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[Isaiah Thomas]

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[Podcast Host (Point Game)]

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[Isaiah Thomas]

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[Podcast Host (Point Game)]

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[Isaiah Thomas]

I think Joker's gonna be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reed, he has to guard Julius Randle, and then he has to give us everything he gives us on a night to night basis on offense.

[Podcast Host (Point Game)]

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[Shannon]

Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell, get the flying he running up the court, licking his fingers

[GP (Gab)]

while he got the ball. Like after you go through a training

[Shannon]

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[GP (Gab)]

Oh yeah.

[Shannon]

Get your ass up and down the court and you gonna get the ball.

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[Jared Ono]

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[Shannon]

Help.

[Joe]

Somebody please.

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[Shannon]

Psych.

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[Shannon]

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[Shannon]

The team with the worst record in the NBA each of the previous seven drafts failed to land the top overall pick. The Washington Wizards went 1864, came out with the top pick. Washington was followed by Utah, tied for the fourth best odds at number two. The Grizzlies had the sixth best odds.

[GP (Gab)]

They got the third pick.

[Shannon]

The Bulls the ninth best odds. They got the fourth pick and the remaining Clippers, Nets, Kings, Hawks, Mavericks, Bucs, warriors, okc, Heat, Hornet. The Pacers found themselves on the wrong end of the lottery luck Sunday, losing their 2026 first round draft pick. President of basketball operation Kevin Pritchard addressed the fan base frustrated with that. The season full of losing didn't add a high draft choice thanks to trading for the LA Clippers center Zubots in February. This is what he said. I'm really sorry to all our fans. I own taking the risk. Surprise. It came up a fifth after this year I thought we'd do some luck, but please remember this team deserved a starting center to compete with the best teams next year year. We have always been resilient, Joe. Sometimes you got the dice. Hey, you roll the dice, sometimes you hit a point, sometimes you roll snake eyes. Hello, they roll snake eyes now. So basically they traded the fifth pick in the draft. Not for Jokic, not for Wemby. Zubots is a double double guy. But I don't know if anybody would have been willing to trade the fifth pick in the draft for Zubots. And that's not a knock on him. But they rolled a dice and the dice didn't roll out, didn't turn over in their favor. You like what Kevin Pritchard said? You like the risk? No risk, no reward, no risk. It no biscuit, whatever the terminology you want to use. Do you like the what The Pacers. You did? You like them going for it?

[GP (Gab)]

Well, listen, if you're a Pacers fan. Yeah, you pissed off, okay. But I, I ain't mad that they, you know, went out on the limb, bro, you gotta. You got you a nice big and Zubot. But this draft is so deep, Uncle Ocho. Meaning I. I think it's some, some Real. Real stars gonna come in. Gonna come into the league in this draft that I know they feel like they missed out on a golden opportunity, bro, but at the fifth pick, it's just so tough, man. It's tough.

[Ocho]

I don't.

[GP (Gab)]

I mean, I don't know what you're doing. I don't know what you're gonna do with that. If you.

[Shannon]

The Utah said, damn it, we were so close.

[GP (Gab)]

They still making. They might can package something and get the number one pick. I feel like they.

[Shannon]

They're not. I don't. I don't. You. You think the Wizards gonna give up the Bonza?

[Ocho]

Why they. Why they say.

[GP (Gab)]

Hold on.

[Shannon]

Are you saying package the number one pick? What you mean? What they giving up, man?

[GP (Gab)]

Maybe they give up Markerman in.

[Shannon]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We don't want to give a market. No. Okay, give us y'. All. So that means. Hold on. Washington got it.

[Joe]

So that means we just gonna flip.

[GP (Gab)]

We just gonna flip picks. We gonna give y' all one, and we just gonna take two.

[Shannon]

No, no, no, no, no. I need more than that. Give me eight. I need A.D. give me A.D. do you want the bo.

[GP (Gab)]

Can we have a serious discussion here?

[Shannon]

Okay, let's go.

[GP (Gab)]

I already got Jaren Jackson Jr. And Lori Markerman. What the hell you gonna do with A.D.

[Shannon]

well, I tell you what, we will get y' all. Jerry Jackson.

[GP (Gab)]

Listen, listen, if I'm Washington, all right, don't move on the pick, man. Go draft DeBonso, put him with Trey Young. Andy. Hell, it seemed like, hey, I seen something today. Every time you trade Anthony Davis, you get the number one pick.

[Shannon]

Absolutely. Is that the Mavericks? You got Cooper Flag?

[GP (Gab)]

He left. He left New Orleans. You got Zion?

[Shannon]

Yep. You just. He just. Cameron's called the Bonzo. Looking less enthusiastic about Washington winning. The lottery pick lady said, I'm excited. Obviously wanted to be the number one pick. Working to be the number one pick. So it'll be exciting. Great opportunity, Joe. How does debonza, Anthony Davis, Trey Young sound in Washington?

[GP (Gab)]

It sound good. It's in the Eastern Conference. Debonza is from Massachusetts, Uncle Ocho. So, hell, he back on the East Coast. He close to home. I mean, the Wizards are due, bro, for a start. And what better way or better two veterans to have Trae Young and Anthony Davis in this prolific score at the 2, 3 spot, you know, learning from these guys and them guys showing him the rope, that's kind of what. That's kind of what Dallas wanted to do with Cooper Flag.

[Joe]

Yes.

[GP (Gab)]

You know what I mean? And I feel like AJ is ready for the moment. Meaning can be a 20 plus score from day one. We need to need Trey Young to average about 12, 13 assists.

[Shannon]

Oh, he could do that. I definitely believe he can do a double double.

[GP (Gab)]

What? Oh, yeah, I know he can do a double double. I'm saying he ain't gotta be 25 and 12, but he can be anywhere from 18 to 22 a night, Uncle Ocho. And 10 to 12 assists. Hopefully he can be a double double guy. I feel like, man, that's a decent damn team if you ask me.

[Shannon]

It's being reported. The Wizards would report would consider trading down from the number one spot per Jake Fisher.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon]

Well, Utah. Utah. Say. I tell you what they say. Look here. What y'. All, What y' all want to do? What y' all want to do? I will need. I'm gonna need your next. Your next four picks unprotected.

[GP (Gab)]

Hey, hey, hold on. We just. We gonna. We just gonna swap one and two. And I'm gonna send you. I'm gonna send you an all star caliber player with it. How about that?

[Shannon]

I want your next four unprotected lottery picks. Do you want him or not? I'm gonna do you like, hey, I'm gonna do what you call them. Say, hey, hey, the Clippers and okc. Y' all won't. Y' all want Paul George? Y' all want Paul George or not? Listen, because I want three or four unprotected lottery picks. Now, do you want him or not? I'm about to hang up.

[GP (Gab)]

Take your emotion down. Just listen. Just listen to me. We both. We both at the bottom of the barrel right now, okay?

[Shannon]

But I got no more.

[GP (Gab)]

I don't know why you trying to. Why you trying to take everything I got. I'm trying to help you. You can help me.

[Shannon]

I don't want your help. Right now you're in no position to help anybody. Huh? Right now you can't help me. I got the number one pick. So you know what? I tell you what, I tell you what I do. You know what, Joe, you got any closet space over there? Hang this up. Click. You see what I did to. About your heat? He over there trying to. He tried to tell me, babe, we both in a bad spot, you call me. So I. I'm thinking if you call me, that means you in a worse spot than me.

[GP (Gab)]

I'm giving you. I. I wanna.

[Shannon]

I'm. I'm.

[GP (Gab)]

I'm giving you the number two pick, which is gonna probably be Dan Peterson. And I'm gonna give you. I don't want it.

[Shannon]

Well, oh, if Darren Peterson gonna be so good, he falling right in your lap. Won't you just go ahead and take it if you want him so much?

[GP (Gab)]

Well, listen, we've invested so much in AJ that we gotta have him in Utah, you know?

[Shannon]

Exactly. And that's the thing. And guess what, Ocho and Joe, I know you need it. Guess what? I'm gonna get everything I part. Because guess the thing is when you make a deal in desperation, you give up more than what you should. And guess what, Utah desperate. They need. He went to high school in Utah. He went to college in Utah.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, Uncle Joe, I don't. I don't really see them giving up that number one pick. Obviously, Washington is trying to improve. Why would you give up the number one pick? You already got 80. You got Trey Young.

[Shannon]

You.

[Ocho]

You. You wanna. You wanna change that atmosphere down in. Down there in D.C. i don't see. I don't see him doing it. I don't see him doing it.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah, I don't. I don't see him doing it either. Unless Utah come with something sweet. They're gonna have to come with a sweet deal.

[Shannon]

I just told you I want to. I want the next three, four up. Hold on. Joe, you do realize. Think about what Orlando gave up for Desmond Bain. Four unprotected lottery pick. Yeah.

[GP (Gab)]

For A.J. hell yeah.

[Joe]

We'll give you that. We'll give you that.

[Shannon]

I ain't told you that. You said no.

[GP (Gab)]

And well, I took back to my man.

[Shannon]

That's why I hung up on you.

[GP (Gab)]

We had a discussion and now I'm coming back to the table.

[Shannon]

Nah, too late.

[Joe]

Now.

[Shannon]

It's five. It's five. I moved it up.

[GP (Gab)]

That's okay. That's okay. We'll do it. Listen, and we're gonna send you. And we're gonna send you an all star caliber player with him.

[Ocho]

Who.

[GP (Gab)]

Who you want?

[Shannon]

Y'?

[Joe]

All?

[Shannon]

I got nobody but AD and what you call him?

[Ocho]

Trey Young.

[Shannon]

Trey Young. So what do we. What if we take. What if we take that number one? What if we. Okay, we swap and we.

[GP (Gab)]

No, I'm talking about Utah. Utah gonna give you.

[Shannon]

Yeah, we're gonna give y'. All. Y' all want the boxes. Y' all want the opportunity. So I tell you what we do. Just so y' all don't do no monkey business, we'll select him and trade him to you. You remember how they did? You remember how Jameson and Vince Carter. And they just went. Kenny Hardaway and Chris Weber, and they just changed. Hey, come here. Your cap. Don't even put it on your head. Give him your cap. You take his cap.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah. Penny Hardaway, Chris Weber, same thing.

[Shannon]

Yes, yes. That's what we gonna do.

[GP (Gab)]

Well, listen, listen. Anyway, any way we can get him in Utah, we here and, you know, hopefully we can make something happen.

[Shannon]

Because think about it. You got George. You like Keonte? George, Joe, he can flat out score. You put it with a point guard. You got marketing. You got a. You got a Triple J.

[GP (Gab)]

That Ace Bailey.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[GP (Gab)]

Hey, man. But anyway, let's say you go down to three to Memphis. Who you go with? You going with Boozer? Comparing with Eddie. Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon]

I don't think you got no choice. Or what you gonna put it. You hold on. Is job there or not there?

[GP (Gab)]

No, job gone. He gonna be gone.

[Shannon]

Okay.

[GP (Gab)]

Point guardian, though.

[Shannon]

Well, if that's the case, all things being equal, I think a point. I think. I think Acuff works better there.

[GP (Gab)]

You think Acuff works better in Memphis? I'm gonna. They got Acuff going to the Brooklyn nets at 6. I ain't gonna lie. I like that spot. I know. Now, I know a.k.a. probably want to go higher, meaning he probably wouldn't mind being a top three pick. But if I'm keeping y', all, I don't want to see a cover in Memphis. I want to see him in the big city. I want to see him in Brooklyn.

[Shannon]

What about. What about Wilson? Caleb Wilson, the guy from North Carolina?

[GP (Gab)]

Hey, hey, he nice Joe from Chicago, number four. Yeah, they got a nice young squad over there. He gonna fit in. He gonna be a star. He gonna be an all star in this league, Uncle Ocho.

[Ocho]

So hold on, hold on. You got Kaylee Wilson going number four.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah, I got him going for.

[Ocho]

So you got the Bonza going one. Who you got going to? Peterson.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So who?

[Shannon]

Three Boozer.

[GP (Gab)]

Booze is three.

[Ocho]

Oh, that's right. That's right. I forgot about booze. Hey, so where Booze gonna go?

[GP (Gab)]

He gonna go to Memphis?

[Ocho]

Nah, Joe.

[GP (Gab)]

What you mean?

[Joe]

Now?

[GP (Gab)]

Look, they just gave up Jan Jackson. So now they. They gonna replace that with Boo.

[Ocho]

They gonna fit. Okay, you. You right, you right, you right, you right.

[GP (Gab)]

And you got big Edie over there and don't. Hold on.

[Shannon]

Don't Memphis get Orlando's pick, do they? Let's see. I think they get. Because they had to give up four first round picks to get Ban.

[GP (Gab)]

That must be a later first round pick.

[Shannon]

Yeah, I think.

[Ocho]

If I can be.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah, I can't.

[Shannon]

Hold on. Oh, so at 14. 18.

[GP (Gab)]

What's that?

[Shannon]

Charlotte has 14 and 18. Okay, 14 and 18. So.

[Joe]

So when does.

[Shannon]

What you call them get the. When does Memphis get. Orlando Pigs. Oh, Phoenix. Because they got Desmond Bain. Detroit. No. Well, Phoenix. No, no. Bane was a free agent. He went to Houston as a free agent. Right. Remember when. Excuse me. Dylan Brooks went as a free agent. So I'm trying to figure out who. Who did they get over there? Okay. Okay.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

Memphis has 3 and 16. Memphis has 3 and 16, and the 16 is from Phoenix. Okay. So they can. They can build up pretty good. They get a good, solid pick. Number three. They get another pick at 16. Yeah, I just trade y'.

[GP (Gab)]

All.

[Shannon]

They might get. I mean, get a solid player.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah. I mean, because when you think about it and you look at it, I don't really think Josh did the coach system, bro. You know, he came in, he kind of changed the system. He using that overseas system.

[Shannon]

Yeah, yeah.

[GP (Gab)]

Ass cut. You know, catch and shoot and y'.

[Shannon]

All.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah, Job box office, bro. You know what?

[Ocho]

Hey, you know where he gonna be at, though, Joe?

[GP (Gab)]

I hope he do go down there, Joe.

[Ocho]

He. He looking for a place down here right now, so we ain't. We ain't got nothing to worry about.

[Shannon]

Well, you know, hey, Joe, they're gonna. Probably won't wear Tyler hero.

[Ocho]

That's fine.

[GP (Gab)]

They're gonna get Tyler hero.

[Ocho]

That's fine.

[Shannon]

But my thing is, I don't understand. You felt. You felt. So you could have had James Harden.

[GP (Gab)]

Who?

[Jared Ono]

The Heat.

[Shannon]

And they didn't want to get up off Hero.

[GP (Gab)]

You saying they could have got James Harden win a couple of years ago

[Shannon]

when he was available, but they didn't want to give up Hero.

[GP (Gab)]

I think they wanted to. I don't think they really wanted James Harden that bad. Man.

[Shannon]

Can you imagine James Harden with. With. With. Bam?

[GP (Gab)]

I can't imagine James Harden in Miami. Yeah, that's why I can't imagine.

[Shannon]

Well, you know, they got. They got some nice adult entertainment.

[GP (Gab)]

Hey, he. Hey, James, like the party.

[Joe]

Okay, listen, if.

[Ocho]

If he could. If he could go and use it.

[Shannon]

And guess what? Pat Riley gonna tell him no.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah, you got to tell him.

[Shannon]

You got to tell him no.

[GP (Gab)]

Hey, listen, y' all know, man, they really. They really got people in the clubs, bro. Who let people know, hey, yeah, Bam ahead of night. Just let you know, Pat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we see.

[Ocho]

Hey, that's perfect. That's exactly what my boy need. That's what my Dog need coming out, coming down there from Memphis. Come on down here to Miami. We gonna make sure you are right. Cause the structure and the ecosystem and the way things work, we gonna always have eyes on you. When you think we not even watching, hey, that's what he need.

[GP (Gab)]

As long as you don't think Miami is paradise and it's a damn vacation, boy, you gonna have a battle.

[Ocho]

Hey, boy, you coming here to work, boy?

[Shannon]

That's it.

[Joe]

It.

[GP (Gab)]

That's it. You coming here to work. Don't be fooled by the palm trees in the water.

[Ocho]

No, sir.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah, don't be fooled. You got this. You got to be putting in some work.

[Shannon]

Well, I'm all for it.

[Ocho]

Let's go.

[Shannon]

Anthony Davis is the key to getting number one pick in 2019. Anthony Davis trade. Pelican trade Anthony Davis. They get the one picking Zion in 2025. The Mavericks trade for Anthony Davis. Guess what? The number one pick. The Wizards trade for Anthony Davis. Guess what? Number one pick. So right now he's three for three.

[GP (Gab)]

Isn't that ironic?

[Shannon]

People gonna say, see, See, y'. All. Y' all think y' all slick NBA. We see what y' all doing.

[GP (Gab)]

Now listen, you know what? They couldn't make it obvious by by giving Utah the number one pick. So they just gave him a little wiggle room. Like, man, y' all can really make some moves, and maybe y' all can get that.

[Shannon]

Y' all need to work this out. What would have been messed up if OKC got the number one pick. We.

[GP (Gab)]

I'm glad they d there, too.

[Shannon]

Think about it. The Lakers got. The Lakers won the championship, and they got the number one pick with James Worthy.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. No.

[Shannon]

Okay. See, OKC gets fit. So they get their own pick and Phillies pick, right? Their pick goes to Dallas. Who do they trade for? Dallas? Oh, you know. You know how the NBA, man, they be bringing five or six teams in and you get our pick in 2027 and we get your pick in 2032, they still get what you say? 17. So they get. Oh, so this the last year for the Clippers. This last year, they get the Clippers pick. Damn. Think about how long they be getting Clippers first round pick.

[GP (Gab)]

Who get number five pick?

[Shannon]

No, the Clippers. OKC get the Clippers number 12 pick. The Clippers get Indiana's number five pick.

[GP (Gab)]

Oh, okay. I wish now. I wish. I ain't gonna lie to y'.

[Joe]

All.

[GP (Gab)]

I wish my Hawks would have got that number four pick. I took four. I ain't be I ain't. I ain't asking for the beat one or two. But if them house could have got that number four pick and got Caleb over here.

[Joe]

Oh, y' all still.

[Ocho]

Y' all still would have been home. I'm just saying.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

Hey, they still got what? They still got one more card up this lead joe in 2027. Okc can pick swap. So they say. You know what? We like that pic y' all got. Let's go ahead and swap this thing out right now.

[GP (Gab)]

Damn, you can't kill that. Cheating ain't the man they.

[Shannon]

Hey, you see what happened? Kawhi was a blessing and a curse because you got a superstar to come to la, but you had to give up so much and you. He's the gift that keeps. Keeps on giving. Damn.

[GP (Gab)]

He the gift.

[Shannon]

The gift that keeps.

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[Shannon]

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[Shannon]

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[GP (Gab)]

Liberty. Liberty.

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[Podcast Host (Point Game)]

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[Joe]

We do some retirement homes.

[Robert Smigel]

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[Shannon]

What's up, fam?

[Isaiah Thomas]

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[Podcast Host (Point Game)]

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[Isaiah Thomas]

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[Podcast Host (Point Game)]

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[Isaiah Thomas]

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[Podcast Host (Point Game)]

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[Isaiah Thomas]

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[Podcast Host (Point Game)]

And when it's friends stop by like Quinton Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too.

[Shannon]

Steve Nash would get that thing, that man, hell get the flying he running

[GP (Gab)]

up the court, licking his fingers while he got the ball. Like you go through a training camp

[Shannon]

with that Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court and you gonna get the ball.

[Podcast Host (Point Game)]

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[Jared Ono]

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[Shannon]

Help.

[Joe]

Somebody please.

[Jared Ono]

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[Shannon]

Psych.

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[GP (Gab)]

Hey, Cream.

[Shannon]

Cream of chicken soup.

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[Shannon]

So give it. Daryl Morey is out as president of basketball operations for the Philippines Sixers.

[GP (Gab)]

Oh, man.

[Shannon]

Keep Nick Nurse as their coach. Bob Myers, president of sports of Harris Blitzer Sports and Entertainment, will lead the search for the new executive for the Sixers. And will oversee the franchise basketball department in the interim. Daryl Morris. Six seasons running, the 76ers made the playoffs five times and finished 270 and 212, but never met once, made it past the second round. Joe, how you grading his tenure?

[GP (Gab)]

Oh, he got there right before James got there. Well, he was there a few years

[Shannon]

before he brought James there.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah, I don't know. It's just tough disaster. When the process.

[Shannon]

Wait, hey, hey.

[GP (Gab)]

When the process did damn work. And now you at this point, it's like, because the league getting better, teams in the east are better, you no longer at the top, you know, why

[Shannon]

give him an F? Because he gave Embiid an extension that he didn't have to. Embiid had two years left on his original deal. Gave. Now, wouldn't it be a lot better, Joe, if we didn't have. Embiid was a free agent. Now we got him. Now we can say, hey, do we want to do this or not? You see Ocho?

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

This would have been perfect. You signed a man, gave him three years, 192. The deal kicks in. It's like, hold on. Why are we doing this? Why? We don't have to. We got him for two more years under the current contract that he's one of the highest paid players. It made no sense. I was scratching. I'm like, well, hold on. Why are you doing this? Based on his injury history, you mean to tell me you got the guy already under contract for two years, but you're willing to go past. Go three years past the two years with his injury history? It didn't make sense. And then what? What'd you give up to get James Harden? And you let him walk? Did he walk or did he end up. Did they trade James or did he walk as a free agent?

[GP (Gab)]

Nah. What the hell did they do? I think they traded because he ended

[Shannon]

up going to Clippers.

[GP (Gab)]

They got Paul. Did they get Paul George back for him?

[Shannon]

No. Paul George came in the free agent because. Because the Clippers wouldn't give him that. That fourth year.

[GP (Gab)]

Absolutely. Who?

[Shannon]

No, not harlan. Not. Not. No, I'm talking about james harden. James harden got to philly. How did he get to. He got the. He came from the nets, right? He came from the nets.

[Joe]

Yeah,

[Shannon]

Because Daryl Mori came. First of all, ain't a whole lot of people could have said what he said and still had a job, considering how much money China spends. Yes, he said what he said. The mere fact that he got another job.

[Ocho]

Damn.

[GP (Gab)]

Hey, it's gonna be some hey, it's gonna be some big moves made. I know that.

[Shannon]

I agree.

[GP (Gab)]

It's gonna be some big moves made this summer.

[Shannon]

You're right. So you gave you. Yeah, that's what. That's what Philly gave up. Yeah, they gave up Ben Simmons, Andre Juman, Seth Curry and two first round picks. You think you could have used them first round picks at some point in time, Joe?

[Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Shannon]

And then guess what? The guy that you gave up, he not there. So none of what you gave up is there. James aren't gone. James called you a lie, Jay. I mean, you believed in James, but for whatever reason, James said you was gonna get it done. And then you all of a sudden it come time to get that man his money and you ain't have no money for it. Or you say you couldn't give no money.

[GP (Gab)]

He said he was alive some type of way. Yeah, damn.

[Shannon]

But that. That. I was. I was confused, Joe.

[GP (Gab)]

I really was.

[Shannon]

Ocho and Joe, I was confused because I had him for two more years and I extended him knowing his injury history. Now, he had gotten me to the NBA finals. He had won a championship. Joe. I gotta think long and hard, but I hadn't gotten out the second round. Yeah, the best shot that you had is when Kawhi hit that shot. Was he there then? He might have not even been there then. I don't think he was there. When Kawhi hit that shot, he wasn't there.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he hit it.

[Shannon]

Darryl. Marty wasn't there.

[Joe]

He hit.

[GP (Gab)]

You talking about Joel Embiid?

[Shannon]

No, I'm saying Daryl Murray.

[GP (Gab)]

Oh, you said. Oh, okay.

[Shannon]

Yeah, no, yeah, I know. Joel Embiid was there because he hit the shot over.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that was after they gave him that. They gave him that right after he won an mvp.

[Shannon]

Yes.

[GP (Gab)]

Probably just trying to make him happy, you know, make. Let him know he has some security.

[Shannon]

You had two more years left on it. Damn. How much more security you want? Hell, they letting him know.

[GP (Gab)]

They let him know here.

[Shannon]

He is it.

[GP (Gab)]

He is the future. He is the one, Joe.

[Shannon]

You got security guard in the house with Uzis. Damn. What you need bomb sniffing dogs too? The hell?

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah, that's pretty much what they did.

[Shannon]

They did. And I think. I think. I'm not surprised by this move. I'll put it like that. Yeah, I don't really think anybody. NBA circles are surprised by this move either.

[GP (Gab)]

Hey, look, when you get to. When you get to this point and the team underachieves somebody, somebody has to Go. I knew they weren't gonna get rid of Nurse. Nick. Nurse. And hell, you can't get rid of if you just want to keep it. 100. Can't get rid of Embiid. Can't get rid of Paul George.

[Shannon]

Yeah, boy, look here. I think Paul George contract might be harder to get up off of them than beads.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah, they. That's what I'm saying. You. So somebody has got to go. Sorry, Maury, we.

[Shannon]

Because guess what, ISO, what's up? Who gave these contracts?

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon]

Who thought it would be a great idea, Paul George, coming off an injury to give him four years? The team, the team that he played for all those years was unwilling. That's gonna make me a little leery. It doesn't always, Joe. Cause maybe, you know, maybe they're trying to hedge. But hold on, this team, they got this guy and he like, damn, they don't want to go to four years. And you like, let me go on and jump out the window.

[GP (Gab)]

You thinking, what that the only. I'm just trying. It's like. It's like a. It's like a real crook or a thief. You try to put yourself in they shoes. I'm trying to put myself in Derry Moore's shoe. I'm gonna tell you what he was thinking. Damn. We really ain't but like a piece away. We get a Paul George type guy who can score and defend. We probably could win the year we get him. So, yeah, we might have to, you know, make these numbers work a little bit, but this a guy who we need to go get. And then you had Embiid out here vouching for him, trying to get him, recruiting him, huh? Yeah. Hey, if you got your best player voucher, what you gonna do? Yeah, your hands are tied. Let's see if we can go and make this happen.

[Shannon]

But you got to be careful with your best players recruiting. You do. You really have to be. Because you look at Jerry Krause, he never listened to anything that Jordan had to say. He didn't?

[GP (Gab)]

Nah. He didn't run nothing by him neither.

[Shannon]

Nope. So you got to be. You got to be real careful. I mean, you look.

[Ocho]

You don't think Mr. Cross listen to Jordan?

[Shannon]

Hell no. Why you think he did? You hear what he had, what he said about him at his. At his induction? Did you hear how to meet? You saw the documentary. How demeaning he would.

[Joe]

Hell no.

[Ocho]

Damn

[GP (Gab)]

man constructed a hell of a team, though. I ain't gonna lie to you.

[Shannon]

They don't. He don't get no credit. He don't get no credit. He doesn't.

[GP (Gab)]

You know why he don't get no credit? Because he never gave them credit. The players. He never gave the player. He said, as an organization. He always put things as an organization.

[Shannon]

Yes.

[GP (Gab)]

And versus. Versus. The product that's out there on the floor that's making you millions of dollars. That's. You know, you're right. Yeah. Selling out this damn arena night in and night out. We are. When you see that bull sign, we are global icon, bro.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

Yes.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

MJ Never made. Hey, you know what it was, Joe. Because they wouldn't give him no credit. He said, you know what? I'm putting this together. Y' all playing. I put this together. I put these pieces. I went and got Ron Harper. I went and got Dennis Rodman. I drafted Scottie Pippen. I drafted Horace Grant. I traded for this.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

I traded oak for Bill Cartwright. I brought in these guys. It's. You don't realize how good you can be if you don't care who gets the credit.

[GP (Gab)]

And you never know, bro, when you see these great franchises, these great teams, you never know the turmoil that's going on behind closed doors. You thinking everything. Peaches and Cream, man, these folks hate each other, dude.

[Shannon]

Red Auerbach wasn't running nothing about him. Red all back doing what Red wanted to do. You right, Joe. You right. The same thing with the Patriots.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

You think Bill Rams stuff about Tom Ocho?

[Ocho]

Hell, no. Now, hey, listen, I didn't know Jerry Cross was like, Bill. Now, if that's the comparison, then I understand.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

Nah, Bill don't play that.

[Shannon]

But you. But you got to. And I think the thing is, a lot of times you have to take personal feeling out of it, because if you don't take your personal feelings out of it, you'll hang on to a player a lot longer than what you should. It makes you harder and harder to get rid of said player when. Oh, he's like a son to me.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Shannon]

Coach Belichick ain't had no sons. He say, steve, my son, if you play for the Patriots, you not my son. I'm just being. I'm just being honest with you.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon]

And that's. That's. That's how you have to look at it as a. It would be hard. It would be hard because when you around somebody that you develop relationships. That's why. And that's why in certain situations, like the military or in a corporation, you're not supposed to fraternize with subordinates. Because if you have to fire, it makes it hard. If you built up a relationship with them guys, it just does.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon]

If you. If we got war time and you a subordinate and I'm a hire and I'm over you.

[Ocho]

Right?

[Shannon]

Man, I don't want to say. I don't want to send her son out there and I don't want to do this to this lady. It clouds your judgment.

[Joe]

Judgment.

[Shannon]

So Coach Belichick says I'm going to treat all y' all like crap. So nobody. Nobody go say he got a favorite.

[Joe]

I don't.

[Shannon]

Because you know what? I'll trade or cut. And all of you. Yeah, traded him. Vince Wolfel, Ty Law, Loyal Malloy, Rodney Harrison, Willie McGinnis, Logan Mankins, Tom. It doesn't. He didn't care. Yeah, but he felt. And it's hard to argue. Look, we know the cog that made everything orbit 12. Yes. And 12 wanted to win so bad that he overlooked all that. He's a cool guy. Yeah, we know. He.

[Ocho]

Hold on. Not only did he overlook that, he took less to make sure he able to construct the team around him to make sure he could win.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Ocho]

I wish players understood it, though. Hey, Joe. I don't think NFL players understand. Well, they like the fact that they're playing football. Right. I'm living my childhood dream. But they. They still don't understand the nature of the business because they always get upset when you get. When you get cut. You know, when they play long enough when they. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You gotta play long enough.

[Shannon]

You're gonna have enough. Play long enough.

[Ocho]

Yeah. It's a dirty business. Boy.

[Shannon]

If you hadn't got cut, that means you hadn't played long enough. But play long enough.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah. It's dirty business, but I love it.

[Shannon]

They cut Jerry Rice. Go look, go back and look at some of the players that they've released either. Hold on. They released him? Yeah, absolutely.

[Ocho]

Hey, all the great.

[Shannon]

Play long enough because if you live long enough, everybody's gonna probably die of cancer. Well, he ain't died yet. Well, he just ain't live long enough. Something else got it before it did. And. But that's. But that's the way you have to look. That's the way you have to build. It's hard to build something to keep it going when you so close to everybody because it clouds your judgment because you don't want to get off anybody and. And Paul cry and Jerry crosses. I. I can't.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah, I've got.

[Shannon]

I've got to make tough decisions. I just have to coach Belichick says. I've got to make tough decisions and if you, my son, I don't want anything to happen to you. It's going to cloud my judgment.

[Ocho]

Right?

[Shannon]

I just say I, I think the biggest thing was it's, it's, it's the MB thing. I think they're looking at it like, damn, we're on the hook for 192 million over the next three years and

[GP (Gab)]

we don't know how much he gonna play.

[Shannon]

We don't.

[Ocho]

Change of scenery does wonders.

[Shannon]

Oh guys. Joel Embiid reportedly hasn't seen eye to eye with the Sixers front office, even had an issue with the Jerry McCain trade, per Tony Jones. As the season progressed, it became clear that the star center didn't see eye to eye with front office and coaching staff. In the days before the February trade deadline, he employed the front office to do something other than what he deemed ducking the luxury tax and such. He, along with others in the locker room, were not happy with the decision to trade second year guard Jerry McCain to the Thunder, particularly without bringing in a plan to replace McCain in interviews over the next few games and be noticeably had to hold hold himself back from verbally criticizing the front office. On April 1, a handful of players met with members of the Philadelphia 76 coaching staff before shoot around in Washington to express concerns over certain players participation in team activities and frustration over the direction of the 76ers. Among other things, the players expressed they felt wasn't enough control of the locker room. According to those sources, the meeting was tense enough to briefly imperil the team's shoot around. Joe, what we gonna do from that?

[GP (Gab)]

Sound like a plea to me. Sound like hey, hey, sound like it's gonna be some, some furniture moving this summer. That's what I think. I think, I think if you Philly gp, Unc, Ocho, I think you, you have to weigh all your options. You have to weigh all your options. I mean, I don't know what the chemistry is like over there, but it don't seem great to me. And I'm saying from a fan's perspective, from a guy who watched the game and I look at body language and things of that sort, it don't look like they enjoy playing with one another. I'm just keeping it real.

[Joe]

And then, Joe, you gotta understand, I don't blame the coaches. Cause coaches can't say nothing because these dudes make so much money and once they come, the coach don't get fired. They ain't shipped, right? So what are we saying? Y' all gotta be accountable for yourself and Embiid. You know, he ain't been playing every season. He don't play too many games every season. But when he there, he's very effective. But listen, if that's Philly, I got. I got two guards that are off the chain. And the young fella and Maxi, they off the chains. I'll build right there. You got to think about what you're going to do with George. Paul, I mean, Paul.

[Shannon]

George.

[Joe]

Paul.

[Shannon]

George. Paul.

[Joe]

George. Paul.

[GP (Gab)]

Paul. George.

[Joe]

And then you got to understand, man, I would say, man, let's go get us some pieces. You know what I'm saying? Because they were playing.

[Shannon]

Well, are you saying move off? Are you saying move off? In be. I would.

[Joe]

That was. That just be my. That'd be my opinion to do it. Just move on, man. Make it go somewhere. I'll get nice young pieces for it, and then we can go. We can go from there. Because you don't know. It's just almost like Anthony Davis. You move on with Anthony Davis.

[Shannon]

You don't know if he gonna play every year.

[Joe]

What you gonna get out of him? So why not go get some young players that gonna play for you every night? And we have opportunities.

[Shannon]

Ojo. Yes.

[Ocho]

Hey, uncle, I got a question. When we talk about moving, right? When you think about it, not y', all, y', all three, y' all would know better than me. You know, one thing that the Lakers haven't had. They haven't had a much presence down. Down in the block, right?

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

What you think about embiId going to LA?

[Shannon]

You don't want to. You don't want a more expensive Anthony Davis. He plays less than AD.

[GP (Gab)]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I think if you the Lakers now, you're gonna take a look at it.

[Shannon]

Him and Luca.

[Joe]

But when he on the floor, though, Shannon, he a beast.

[Shannon]

When is that?

[Ocho]

Yeah, hey, I. I try agp.

[Shannon]

When is that?

[Joe]

That. Not. Not too often. But when he do play. When he do play, he'll.

[GP (Gab)]

He'll.

[Joe]

He'll bucket and he can get it.

[GP (Gab)]

Hey, and I think he'll have a resurgence as far as, like, who he wants to be as a player. A new scenery. He know he can't go to LA with this same type of, you know, attitude that he got over.

[Shannon]

We said the same thing, so.

[Ocho]

I told you.

[Shannon]

They say he ain't gonna. He said he gonna GP we said the same thing about eight. Say, man, he gonna go there he ain't got no choice.

[Joe]

Hey, but, Shannon, you shouldn't say that about him because we ain't talking about that. Whatever conversation y' all was having about that, y' all should have left that conversation because, listen, we talked about it. Who can really, really play now? Y' all should have left that conversation alone.

[Shannon]

I'm glad I wasn't on there that night, because I.

[Joe]

Hey, we ain't talking about this no more.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, Uncle. Hey. Hey, Unc think he's slick. Trying to. He trying to get that comment to. Trying to compare goddamn eight and eight.

[Shannon]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Ain't no comparison. But my thing is, is that it's hard when a guy has played 500 games, missed 500 games. GP how do I build around that?

[Joe]

Hey, that's why I told Philadelphia, move on. Whoa.

[Shannon]

Move on.

[Joe]

You got two good guards there. That. Then you, you know. Well, like I said, you got Paul George, who. Who is looking, okay? He'll score when he needs to. And Maxi is your main focus. Just get some pieces around there, put you a three team, team deal in there, get you something for it, and, man, y' all can go and rock. Rock out.

[GP (Gab)]

Hey, and I like Grimes and Uber. I think you keep those guys around. Yeah, you keep those guys around, too. But I think Embiid still got a little value on that. A team will be like, you know what? We'll take a chance. Risk. We'll risk it. Like, you know, considering, hell, when he does play, you know, he pretty decent. I just think he need to change the scenery, man.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I told Unc that the other night. I think a change of scenery would

[Joe]

do great for him. It'll be great for him even though he don't play. Let him go change the scenery, man, and get up out of there, man. If he ain't happy, man, go somewhere else else. Go somewhere else and do it. I think you'd be good in Miami.

[Ocho]

I know Giannis coming to Miami already.

[Joe]

You say Yan is coming there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, boy. You want Miami to have everybody.

[Ocho]

We ain't had nothing in a while. Now. I know we got bam. I'm saying we ain't had nothing in a while. I talked to Pat. Pat, Pat gonna. He gonna let. He gonna. He gonna come off the range.

[Shannon]

Joe, how MB Go look him in Miami with Pat Riley and his body fat.

[GP (Gab)]

Hold up. I'm gonna ask. G.P.

[Shannon]

g.P.

[GP (Gab)]

You know, Riles ain't going for that.

[Joe]

Shannon, he ain't going for that. That boy. That boy coming There, fat and all that. He will not play regardless. Everything. They had him at practice two times a day. No way possible. Hey, hey, G.P. hey, listen. I was 37, 38. They had 3% body fat.

[Shannon]

I said, don't tell me.

[Joe]

He don't tell me. You know what I'm saying?

[GP (Gab)]

Hey, hey, hey. Tell him about the. Tell them about the weight and body fat on Friday.

[Joe]

Oh, my goodness, man, he got a pinch. He got to put that thing on your man.

[Shannon]

Calibers on you, man.

[Joe]

He putting that little thing, pinch thing on you be too much on there. You gonna go get in that sauna. You doing all that. You get suspended. You getting fine. You get all that. I'm like, man, that's crazy. And then one time, three of us was over. Over body fat. He put the bikes in the middle of the floor, and he had us

[Shannon]

right at thanks for an hour and

[Joe]

30 minutes with the leads and all that on our chest. And we was getting up, pumping, man. And then we went and had practice for two hours. I said, man, this man crazy.

[GP (Gab)]

Hey, Ocho, he ain't lying. Let me tell y' all something. When I left Brooklyn and came to Miami, bro, you know, I was a little overweight. I was a little weight. Hey, look, you got. You already got. You already got pre practice and then you got practice. Yeah, hell, I was there before pre practice on that damn bike. GP Talking about. I was there an hour before pre practice riding the bike for a whole 45 minutes. Then I go to pre practice practice. Hell, UD D. Wade and all them, they in pre practice. Then once we get done with pre practice, that's when regular practice. Hey, man, when you leave out your ass, go to sleep.

[Joe]

And he is four hours easily in there. And then. And then. Look, look, look, look, fella. We still had a training camp where you get double 2A days. You know what I'm saying? He put cots in the. In the. In the locker room and said, man, y' all might as well just gon down right here, man. Cause y' all ain't gonna make it to get back. You know what I'm saying? That's how it was.

[Shannon]

So. So you said no embiid. No to Miami. GP

[Joe]

and being be accountable for the thing. They ain't coming to get him. They ain't gonna pay him that much money. And he. And he don't be playing.

[Shannon]

He got three years guaranteed at 192 million.

[Joe]

Yeah, well, they won't go. He. Pat won't go. Take that. That here. He'll be like, no, I'm off that. He won't do that here. Go.

[Shannon]

He'll go.

[Joe]

He'll go get the boy from Milwaukee before you do all that.

[Shannon]

Giannis.

[Joe]

Giannis. He'll go get Giannis before you do that, because he know Giannis gonna come play.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon]

Wow. I'm trying to figure out where. So where is it? Where is he gonna go?

[GP (Gab)]

He might go to la.

[Joe]

If he come to la, he might as well just come to the Clippers. Just go to the Clippers? Yeah, go to the Clippers. You could put that where you could be. You could put Kawhi. Damn.

[Shannon]

So you want two guys that don't play a whole bunch rgp.

[Joe]

But Kawhi getting better, though. Shannon. Kawhi played the most. He played this year. He played well. He played almost like 60 games.

[Shannon]

Yeah, he missed. He missed. He didn't play till January.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah. You know how that go. You know what I'm saying? But he's getting better. I think if they both play 60 games, they'll be cool.

[Shannon]

You do realize, But.

[GP (Gab)]

Damn.

[Shannon]

Realize. Hold on. Hey, pull up. When the last time he. You know, Only one time he's played 68 games in his NBA career.

[Joe]

Probably. Probably one time. Yeah.

[Shannon]

He won the MVP that year.

[Joe]

And how many. All right.

[Shannon]

How long you been in the league? I think probably a Dec. You figure he's missed. 485. 485. So that's what? 960. So at least 10 years.

[Joe]

Ooh. See, that's crazy. That's crazy to me that you. That you missed that, man. And then you. You done. You done missed more games than you done played and made all that money. Come. Come on, man.

[Shannon]

Hey, hey, hey.

[GP (Gab)]

Then when you think about it, Embiid getting 193 over the next three years. Hell, that's gonna. Hey, that means you gonna have to give up a lot to.

[Joe]

Yeah, that's like, What? That's. That's 60 million, 65 million. Almost $65 million a year.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[GP (Gab)]

I don't know. Philly might have to figure that one out, gp.

[Joe]

Yeah, they gonna have to suck that one up, man. But I try.

[Shannon]

I try to get him on.

[Joe]

I try to. I. I try to get him up out of there. You know what I'm saying? I would have.

[Shannon]

You take him.

[Joe]

I don't know. We'll take him, though. Shoot. You got to go down there to Houston. They got some players that they can swap for him. The big boys, you know, they got some other players that can do It Houston got a lot of little things that go. And then you got that Sacramento team, they got a lot of little youngsters over there, you know, but you're gonna have to have a three team trade in it. You're gonna have to have three teams and it's gonna be a lot of picks.

[Shannon]

So he got drafted in 2014.

[Joe]

He been there for 12 years.

[Shannon]

So 2014 to 2025 is 2014 to 2023 is 10 years, 24 is 11 years. His 12th year, he's going to 13.

[Joe]

Yeah, going. Yeah, this was his 12th year. Next year.

[Shannon]

Yeah, going to the year 13. I don't know, GP, I let him

[Joe]

go, man, I would have to make a change. I just. I'm just saying make a change. I say just come with a new.

[Shannon]

You got.

[Joe]

You got young stars, you got youngsters, little guards, and you know, Shannon, that's what the league is about now.

[Shannon]

Guards. Check this out, guys. His first two years, he didn't play at all. So 2014-15, 15, 16, he didn't play. The next year, he played 31 games. Then he played 63, 64, 51, 51. Then the year he won the. The MVP, he played 68. The next year he played 66. Then he played 39. 19. 38. In 10 years, he's played 400. He's averaged 49 games a season.

[GP (Gab)]

Damn.

[Shannon]

So he's averaging, missing 32, 33 games a year. That's 10 years he played. So the first two years, they only count them. He didn't play at all. He did not play a single game in his first two years.

[Joe]

So he almost missing half of the year. Every year.

[Shannon]

Every year.

[Ocho]

Hey, but we know what he get

[Joe]

when he has on the court.

[Shannon]

Hey, that's like.

[Ocho]

Yeah, he's a force to be reckoned.

[Shannon]

Yeah, well, I know, I know I'm supposed to get a check every month, but hey, sometime it comes, sometime it don't. But when it come, it's nice. You living your life like that.

[GP (Gab)]

No.

[Shannon]

Hell no. And these teams ain't fitting to live their life like that either.

[Joe]

Yeah, I don't think they gonna do that. Ain't too many.

[Shannon]

33 games a year. Think about that, Ocho. Think about it. For wide receiver, missed five games. Let's just say one of the top wide receivers in the league. And every year. Yeah, 17 games, he missed five of them. They gonna move on.

[Joe]

Yeah, they gotta go. Like I said, I'm still on the bandwagon of trying a new, get a new.

[GP (Gab)]

But they. They ain't gonna be able to move on, man, with that big contract.

[Shannon]

You got to.

[Joe]

That's why you got to put a lot of. Joe. You got to put a lot of

[Shannon]

teams, and you got to take some of it on. Hey, hey, you got to take some of it on. GP And Ocho.

[Joe]

Yeah, you got to take.

[Shannon]

You got to take. I'll pay $50 million. I'd be willing to pay 50 million. That way, I get up out of 142 of it.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

I can't. I can't eat the. I can't eat the whole thing.

[Joe]

Oh, I wouldn't eat it. I wouldn't need it. You done tried it out for almost 12 years. What you want to do now? He tried it for 12 years, Ocho say.

[Shannon]

But you know when he. When he. When he. When he played, you know what he is. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Win, especially. Hey, listen, when he plays, you know what he is, because that's why he's making the money he making, and he missed all that damn time.

[GP (Gab)]

Hey, y' all know it. It's like.

[Joe]

Like.

[GP (Gab)]

It's like somebody else having one of your exes being like, oh, she gonna be better with me. That's how. That's how teams gonna look at it. Hey, they'd be like, oh, you know what? We'll whip him in some shape. He'll play more games with us. You know what I mean? It's teams, things like that.

[Shannon]

Of course.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

You always do. Hey, yeah, I don't care what she was with him. She ain't gonna be like that with me. Abby, Dab. I see why old boy got up off you.

[Joe]

Hey, you seen why?

[Shannon]

Hey, hey, but think about this. In 10 years, 1, 2, 3, 4. He's only played at least 60 games. Four times in 10 years.

[GP (Gab)]

Damn crazy. And the boy got some game. He plays. Yeah, we.

[Joe]

We ain't saying. We ain't talking about that. We just talk about him being healthy, his availability. Yeah, it's just like Buddy, always just like. AD he got game, too. When he. When he healthy, he obese, but he just can't stay on the floor.

[Shannon]

You know, AD gonna give you 20 somewhere between 22 and 25. He gonna give you somewhere between 10 and 12 rebounds. Gonna block you two and a half, three shots a game.

[Joe]

Yep.

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah. Hey, hey, if y' all ask me, I think these are personal decisions that these guys are making, too. Meaning, like, you gotta take care of yourself, bro. In the off season.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[GP (Gab)]

Like, it's the off season here. But as a professional player, man, you gotta Always stay in some shape.

[Shannon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[GP (Gab)]

You can't, you can't come into camp. You can't come into camp thinking I almost whip into some shape real quick. Hell no,

[Shannon]

gp. You know, when you got some height, you can put some pounds on. Easy, easy, easy, easy.

[Joe]

So, Joe, how many games you missed, probably, you think, in your career, bro.

[GP (Gab)]

Listen, hold up, GP Ocho. For over a decade, I was an iron man. You know what I mean? Like, to where I didn't miss a game. Like, I really enjoy playing the game. So I do whatever to make my body feel good or whatever sacrifices I gotta make to be able to be out there on the floor. I was always willing to do that, regardless of the circumstances or the situation I was in. Whether I was the guy or one of the guys or the third, fourth, it didn't matter to me, man. I, I, I really enjoy playing the game, so I would never cheat myself like that. So, you know, I think that was honorable in myself just by being mentioned being an iron man, a guy who done played over countless amount of games and never missed a game. So, you know, I always relish that, bro. Like, I, I tried to keep that pace.

[Joe]

And I tell you to see, it's a different mindset. I played 17 seasons and I only missed 25 games.

[Shannon]

Damn.

[Joe]

That's all I miss, 25 games. 17 seasons you gotta enjoy. For six years, I played 82 straight.

[Shannon]

Yeah, Joe. Joe, from 03 through 06, Joe never missed a game. And then he played 57, and then he went 82, 79, 76, 72, 60, 72, 79, 80, 81, 57, 24, 78, 55, 32, 23, balling like a dog.

[Ocho]

Okay, Joe, you. Hey, Joe, you was a little durable out there, huh?

[GP (Gab)]

Yeah, man. Hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Shannon]

The best ability is what? Availability. Availability.

[GP (Gab)]

Hello.

[Ocho]

Hey. Yeah, Joe, I hope, I hope you're available soon, too.

[GP (Gab)]

I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be available. Get off of your ass. I don't want to hear no excuse me tonight, man. I'm trying to be cool. It's three something in the morning. Don't play with me tonight, man.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe, that's the liquor talking. You can't do nothing with me in your.

[Joe]

Oh, Chad, you talking big, big money.

[Ocho]

Hey, gp. Hey, hey, gp. Man, I'm finna wash that, man.

[Joe]

Gp.

[GP (Gab)]

Gp.

[Joe]

Gp.

[GP (Gab)]

That man garbage, man.

[Joe]

Watch it. I watch that, man. Every, Every summer on this big three, boy, he get.

[Ocho]

Hey, gp. Listen, I seen him play, gp. I know all his moves. I know his mannerisms. I know what he gonna do when he going left. I know when he going right. Gp One thing about it, I got a gift, right? I got a gift for Gab, and I'mma.

[Joe]

Gab?

[Shannon]

You talking about the Gab?

[Ocho]

I'm having my elbowing like whip.

[Joe]

Chad. I gotta see this one, man, because that, that, that they call that. They call him buckets. Straight Buckets.

[Ocho]

Hey, you know what they call me, huh? The ISO stopper.

[Joe]

Oh, you Joe ISO. You stopping Joe ISO.

[GP (Gab)]

Hey, gp. Gp, I got something for his ass. Don't worry about it. I got something for his ass.