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Joe
The next segment is brought to you by Tommy John where comfort is the new power move and the Lakers pulled a power move on LeBron. On March 31, the Lakers defeated the Cavaliers to secure LeBron James his record breaking 1200 and 29th win. It was the same night Luca passed 15000 points. Rui passed 5, 000 points. JJ Redick reached 100 wins according to Dave McMenamin. Lakers GM Rob Pelinka gave the game ball to Reddick over anybody else. And LeBron felt Palinka's priority was yet another example of the Lakers taking him for granted. On other notes, he has had a great relationship with JJ Redick. One thing the Lakers got right, the Lakers approach and how they show interest in retaining him and their plan for any discount will be a factor. LeBron James. Here's LeBron James before Cleveland and with LeBron seven years before he got there, there was 219 and 223. 40% win rate. The seven years with him, they won 63% of their games. LeBron J. Miami before he arrived, there was 149 and 179, a 45% win rate. His four years there, they were 224 and 88, a 72% win rate. Cleveland before, when he returned, they were 97 and 215. They won 31% of their games. In his four years there, they went to four NBA Finals. They won one of those NBA Finals and they were 211 and 117, a 64 win rate. The eight years before LeBron got there, there was 269 and 371. They won 42% of their games. In the eight years with LeBron, there are 357 and 278. That's 56% win rate. So overall, before he arrived at your franchise, you're winning about 40 of your game. Once he's there, you went about 62% of your games. So basically that's a 22 increase. Now this and people like, oh, LeBron ain't do nothing. Eight years in Milwaukee. How many championships does Giannis have, Joe?
Ice
One.
Joe
How many NBA Finals have he gone to? One. Right.
Ice
One.
Joe
He's Finals MVP in eight years in Denver. How many championships have Jokic won? Joe?
Ice
One.
Joe
Interesting. Now one guy, now Giannis is deemed successful. Jokic is being successful. Only one Ocho with the same amount of championships. Yeah, a Finals mvp. Only one is deemed unsuccessful. You see how they did that?
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
You see, if I don't like you, you can't do enough good to make me like you.
Ocho
Yes, sir.
Joe
Hello.
Ice
Hello.
Joe
But if I do, you can't do enough wrong to make me dislike you. We see that going around. We don't. We don't get political here, but we see what's going on.
Ice
Yeah.
Joe
You see what I do?
Ice
Yeah.
Ocho
I'm with you when you're right.
Ice
Hey, hey, hey, hey. You watch a lot of Matlock? Hey, hey, that was my guy. Mat.
Joe
Yeah, Ironside. I don't know if y' all remember Raymond Burr. Ironside, he was in a wheelchair.
Ice
Yeah, yeah, Matlock. Heat of the night.
Ocho
What you know about Heat of the Night?
Joe
What?
Ice
Come on.
Ocho
Grandma used to watch heated the Night.
Joe
Why, man?
Ice
Come on.
Joe
Hey, Joe, let me give you. I want to give these Lakers fans and all these Lakers. Now, this is what the Lakers record was in 2013. 14. They were 27 and 55. They didn't go to the playoffs the next year. There was 21 and 61. They didn't go to the playoffs the next year. They were 17 and 65. They go to the playoffs the year before. And. And in 2016, when LeBron James took off the NBA championship, there was 26 and 56. But, boy, the Lakers were bad. Boy, people couldn't wait to see the Lakers
Ice
in LA winning them amount of games.
Joe
You do realize in that time frame, they got Brandon Ingram, they got Alonzo Ball, they got Drew Randall. Now, how in the world would you be able to get the number two pick in the draft if you win, if. If you in the playoffs? How is that possible? How you get Lonzo ball if you in the playoffs? Right? Something. My granny used to say it all the time, Ocho, something in the milk ain't clean, but I'll let y' all keep on talking. But I. Hold on. Ain't no way Kobe. The God. Kobe. Go with that. Give me Kobe. Pull up Kobe's last eight years. I want to see how many NBA. How many times. Let's see what he did his last eight. That's all we want. Last eight. We just go. Could you look comparing and contrasting? Because I tweeted something in 2012 that I said, LeBron, that Kobe and Jordan were the greatest players I ever seen. And then somebody. Somebody retweeted it. I said, but, you know, four NBA titles, four Finals mvp, seven all NBA selection. And I said, my mind changed. I thought this was the girl for me. Joe. But after she left behind dry, I changed my mind.
Ice
Yeah, yeah.
Joe
But people make it seem like you can't have it. You can't change your mind. So once you say something, I'm sure at some point in time, you probably might have thought this football player. I'm sure a lot of people say, well, Joe Montana was the greatest quarterback, or John Elway, or Dan Marino was the greatest quarterback, Peyton Manning. And then here come this kid that went in the sixth round from Michigan. I'm sure at some point in time, somebody said this guy was the best defensive player, whether it was Merlin Olsen, whether it was Deacon Jones, it was Bob Lilly, Randy White, Mean Joe. But then this kid out of North Carolina came along. They had 56 on his back. And I'm sure that the corners, they probably said, well, Dick Knight, Train Lane. Nah, it was the Lester Hayes, Mel Blunt, Ken Riley.
Ocho
Ken Riley. What you know about Ken Riley, huh?
Joe
It was Kenny. So this, then this little kid, skinny kid from fam. From Fort Miles, Kim Riley.
Ocho
Fam. You rattler. You don't know about them rattlers, huh, Man? Hey, you know Ken Riley? A joke. Ken Riley, the only banger in the hall of Fame with Anthony Munoz.
Ice
Oh, really?
Ocho
Oh, yeah. He don't get enough. He don't get enough credit, man. No credit. Boy, you were good, boy.
Ice
I learned something new every day.
Joe
Last year, his last year, Kobe retired. At 37 years of age, he averaged 17 points, 3. We'll give him 4 rebounds, 3 assists. 2014 at 36, he was 22. 6 rebounds, 6 assists. In 2013, 14, he was 35. He averaged 14 points, 4 rebounds, 6 assists at 2012, 13 at 34, he was 27. 6 and 6 at 2011, 12, he was 33. He averaged 28. 5 and 5 at 2010, 2011, he was 25. 5 and 5. He shot 45 in 2010. He shot 43 in 2011. He shot 46 in 2012. He shot 42 in 2013. 37% in 2014, 36% in 2015. Run me, run me bronze Rummy Braun. Because we, like, do context, Joe. It wouldn't be fair, Ocho. We got to provide context.
Ocho
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Joe
Yes, sir.
Ocho
Michael, listen, because you can't argue points and facts without context. And most of the time today, especially for you, hunk, you know, you want to be factual, you want to have. You want to have the facts in the stats to support whatever it is you're trying to get across.
Joe
Because, see, I think this ain't Michael Beasley. He told us. He said, man, you judging by decisions, but you didn't know the choices that I had. I'm gonna just go provide a little context for you, because I know y' all like context. I got to give you why I said something or why this. Because, you know, y'. All. Y'. All. Y' all told me Kobe was still that apex predator. That's what y' all told me. That's what Laker Nation told me. Yeah, that's what you told me. Oh, we know. Braun numbers don't surprise it. Don't surprise it. Don't spoil the surprise.
Ice
Okay.
Ocho
Hey, I got a question before you read our Braun numbers. During those times where Kobe's numbers were what they were. Was he injured during that time?
Joe
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. All I'm saying, the man. 35, 36, 37. My guy, 40. Oh, so you go.
Ocho
You're gonna compare. You're gonna compare the numbers based on age at the same time.
Joe
Remember, LeBron didn't start the season. LeBron got hurt. Remember you missed the first 15 games.
Ocho
Okay.
CJ Toledano
Yeah.
Ocho
Yes, sir. Yeah.
Ice
Yeah.
Joe
So he did what he did when he got to the Lakers. 27, 8 1/2. 8. Do you realize there have only been four players to average that? The old counting up. I think it was. I think Oscar did it. I think Jordan did it, Russ did it, and Harden did it. But all of those guys did it before they turned 30. He did it at 32, 33. These guys were doing it at 25, 26. So what guys was doing at 25, 26. Go. James was doing it 32, 33. The second year, he was 25, 8 and 10 championship. And then he went 25, 8 and 8, 38 and 6, 29, 8 and 7, 26, 7 and 8. Last year, moving to the second option with Luca there, he gave you a robust 24. What was it? 24, 8 and 7. And then this year. Yeah, he didn't give you number. Little 20. Get a little 24 spot at the second option. DeLuca, he gave you 24, 8 and 8. And then this year at the third option, 21, 6 and 7. Shooting 55. 51. Basically 52 from the floor. Has he ever shot less than 50 when he's with the Lakers? Okay. The year they won the championship. So his second year there, when he averaged 25, 8 and 10, he shot 49.3%. Other than that, Joe, he's never shot less than 50 from the Lakers.
Ice
Hey, I don't think people understand how tough that is. To do. Like to. To be that efficient, especially as you get up in age, bro. The man, 41 years old, what he
Joe
shot this year, 51, I think 51.5, bro. That's.
Ice
That's. I. I guarantee is nobody's ever done that.
Joe
Even he can't do enough good. If he walk on water, people say the only reason he walking. Cause he can't swim. If he could swim, he would swim in the water. He wouldn't walk. Cures cancer, they say. What about diabetes? Ocho.
Ocho
Yeah, right. You know, the funny thing is about. About this conversation.
Joe
Yes.
Ocho
And you think about what Kobe means to la.
Joe
Yes.
Ocho
You think about what Kobe means, the Lakers, what he's done for that franchise, you know, from the time he got there, you know.
Joe
Yes.
Ocho
To the time. To his un. Untimely demise.
Joe
Yes.
Ocho
Despite what he looked like towards the end of his career, I don't think there's anybody that can come to the Lakers and unsee what Kobe did. Just. Just. No matter what. Even what you reading off the stats, even if you read. Even what you reading off the facts.
Ice
Yes.
Ocho
And how great LeBron has been for them, those that are Kobe fans or those that appreciate what Kobe has done for them, nothing. Nothing will unseat how they feel about that man. So when the conversation comes, nobody tried to. I understand.
Joe
That'll be the equivalent of all of a sudden, Chase. Chase gonna have better numbers than you. But that don't take away from what you did. Nor is Chase trying to erase what you did. See what people see. Here's the problem that you're running into Ocho and. And Joe, correct me if I'm wrong when you step in at any point.
Ice
All right.
Joe
Because. Because it was Kobe and LeBron for the longest period of time.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
I can't get past that. You trying to come make us forget about Kobe. You trying to erase Kobe's legacy. Although Kobe legacy is. Is. Is enriched in Mount Rush. Rushmore cemented.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
But people can't see. I can't.
Ocho
I can't.
Joe
Look. Kobe is Kobe. Hey, no matter how you slice it, Kobe is a top three Laker all time. No matter how you slice. Some people say Kobe, some people say Magic, some people might slot Kareem, but however you slice it, he ain't getting out of the top three. Right? Right. There have been some other greats. You got Elgin Baylor, you got Wilt Chamberlain, you got Jerry west, you got James Worthy, you got Mike, and you got LeBron. Kobe ain't getting out of the top three. And that's okay. It's okay to say, man, Kobe is great, but LeBron is a bad. It's almost like if I say LeBron is bad, I'm saying Kobe ain't no good.
Ice
Right?
Ocho
Right.
Joe
See, that's what the problem is. Ocho. It's like if I say. If I say man to was a bad boy. What about Ocho? Ocho was great, too. I'm talking about Tio, right? If I say. If I say Jerry's good. Oh, you don't like Moss, man. Hey, man, you know what I love? You know what I love in the morning on my cereal show? Bananas. Why you don't put blueberries on them? Damn. I don't dislike blueberries. I'm saying. I'm highlighting. I like bananas. You can light what you want. Yeah, but to say I hate LeBron and he ain't been good for the Lakers, you. You're not being just. You're being disingenuous.
Ocho
Okay, I got you.
Ice
Thanks. Facts. I. I think. And when you think about it, the fact that Kobe. That was the only team that Kobe ever played for was the Lakers. You know what I mean? He won, what, five titles? And, you know, yeah, they.
Joe
They.
Ice
They have had a disdain for LeBron
Joe
over the years here.
Ice
When he won the Laker. When you won the Laker and you come playing against Kobe and y' all a mono Ao. Yeah, they had a. And the fact that he's probably moved around to a few different. Different franchises and left his stain, you know, I mean, they embraced him, don't get me wrong. But. But, yeah, they.
Joe
They would never put him over Kobe, nor should they. And he didn't go there to try to be. He wanted to go. Because think about it. We just read off what they were before he got there, right? They was winning 17 games. Ocho, 27 games. You was damn near getting a lot. You was damn near getting the number one overall pick. It's okay. I like Kobe. I love Kobe, too.
Ice
Yeah.
Joe
Kobe and Bron were my two favorite players. Kobe was my favorite player before LeBron. Burns is from D.C. prince, George County. He knew about Kevin Durant. I ain't know nothing about Kevin Durant. He said, let me. Hey, Sean, let me tell you what I do. I. I'll. I'll give you LeBron if you let me get Kevin Durant. Cause it was my turn to take the next great player coming out of college. So it was my turn to get kd. He wanted KD because KD was from his neck of the woods. I already Had Kobe. I said, hold on. You gonna give me LeBron? And I still got Kobe for Kevin Durant. Oh, yeah. I jumped on that with both feet. I jumped on Ojo Joe. I jumped on that with both feet.
Ice
Yeah.
Joe
I got one in the east, one in the west, and all you want is Kevin Durant, man, please. Yeah, got it. You remember they was thought they was going to the finals, and. And LeBron averaged 38, 8 and 8, and Orlando put them out. You remember they had the Muppet Series with Kobe and LeBron? I got it. Yeah. Now, y' all know how long ago that's been? That's been, what, 2018. I still got a T shirt 16 years later with LeBron and Kobe, the puppets on it. Y' all remember the commercial used to have on and Kobe be going crazy. LeBron said, Come on, Kobe, man, stop.
Ice
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to like them.
Joe
You can. You could. Look, I can love a player, but I ain't gonna hate, man, look what I look like. Hate what Ocho look like hating somebody. Ocho, prime example. You could have. I mean, I think it helped because you and to was best friends before he ever arrived in Cincinnati. Yeah, but if somebody came and they trying to help you win a championship, man, I don't know why the fans, they're gonna say, man, I don't know why he came here. We got Ocho. Ocho, our guy. Ocho can still be y' all guy, but I'm trying to help Ocho. Ocho want me to come help him get a championship.
Ice
Hey, yeah.
Ocho
Hey, hey, Joe. While I stood on that table, while I was in Mike Brown office, I told Marvin, man, go get 81. I don't care what you got to do. I don't care what. Man, go get 81, boy. Boy, I'm so bad. That was such a joy. I was like a little kid in the candy store, Joe, just knowing my dog was coming to play with me. I'm getting ready to be able to play with one of the best in the world, boy. Joe, I'm talking about top three all time, Joe.
Joe
We on the same team. Yeah.
Ocho
Oh, hell, Joe. I told him, you get that, boy. I ain't got no problem being Robin the Batman. Oh, I'm taking a backseat, Joe. Absolutely.
Joe
Think about that. Think about that. What Ocho had done for that organization. At that point in time, Ocho was the best receiver. I. I joke with him and, you know, talk about downtown Freddie Brown, or I talk about I Curtis.
Ice
Yeah.
Joe
Green A.J. green, you had slim pickings. I was in the era with slim pickings. I was like. But Ocho oo was the best. And for him to say, you know what? I slide to number two.
Ice
Yeah.
Ocho
Quick.
Joe
After six pro bowls in a ten year span, all pro, the leading receiver.
Ice
It ain't many guys.
Ocho
Hey, Joe, I. I understood what was coming. Joe. I understood what was coming into that building. Why? You hear me?
Ice
Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey. Was it more of. Obviously he was your partner, but did you look at it like, damn, I know he gonna take a lot of pressure.
Ocho
No, no, no, no. Because I didn't see it as pressure. I was gonna get mine regardless. I understood with that dynamic how he could come help us and elevate us offensively. I understood what he could do in the slot on the outside. And then, not only that, they were always playing designed for me. And Joe, when I played, I didn't need a whole bunch of volume catches. All I needed was four or five catches a game. Joe, I'm getting off.
Ice
Yeah.
Ocho
I wasn't doing all these little bubble screens and, you know, slant routes. Joe, I'm running, I'm running routes. I need about.
Joe
I need about two balls.
Ocho
I'm over a hundred.
Ice
Hey, hey. But nowadays you'll be running that little bubble screen now, will you please.
Joe
You don't want that bubble screen.
Ocho
Hey, Joe. That makes that. Hey, Joe.
Joe
Oh, y' all want to get down the field?
Ocho
Hey, you heard? You heard. Hey, Joe. And okay, lying Joe.
Joe
That.
Ocho
That makes me uncomfortable.
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Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy not quite on Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier this week. My guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter.
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What's up, fam?
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Joe
Steve Nash would get that thing, that man, hell get the flying he running
Ice
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Joe
he got the ball.
Ice
Like after you go through a training camp with that Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Oh yeah. Get your ass up and down the
Joe
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Joe
Help.
Ocho
Somebody, please.
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Joe
Psych.
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Ocho
Hey, Cream.
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Ocho
Yeah, I need to know.
Joe
I need to be running round when they run.
Ocho
You heard me?
Joe
Yeah.
Ice
Hey, hey. When they run that bubble, you gotta have some wiggle.
Ocho
I got wiggle jokes. But I don't want the wiggle where everybody's in front of me. I want to know where everybody gonna be at while I'm running. You get what I'm saying?
Joe
That side impact is that collision. Because you gotta realize, I catch this, I'm coming inside. Here come DT Here come in here come live middle backer.
Ocho
I don't want none of that, Joe. And you know what? And I. And I could be. I could be honest, Joe.
Joe
That.
Ocho
That's not my strength with. With the ball in my hands. That ain't my goddamn strength. I can't do what Chase do. He bouncing off tackles, bounce off linebacker.
Ice
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ocho
That ain't me.
Joe
I want to catch the ball, beat the corner. I run to safety, man. I got deep tackle, the dn. The middle backer, the safety corner. Oh, no.
Ocho
I don't want no part a Joe. I don't want no part of that.
Joe
Kerr has agreed to a two year contract to return his head coach of the Warriors. The deal keeps Kerr as the highest paid in the NBA annually. He made at least 17 and a half million the last season. Joe, does Kerr coming back to the warriors at least two more seasons? Does that keep the band together? Does that keep Kerr, Steph and Draymond together for at least two more years?
Ice
Man, I don't know, fellas. I don't really know how they really feel about Draymond. If y' all just want me to be 100%. I know he's a huge part of what they done. The emotional leader that we always talk about. But I Wonder how the coaches really feel about Draymond, how the front office really feel about him? You know what I mean? Yeah.
Joe
The question is. The better question is that how do other teams feel? Do they feel he will be as valuable to their team as he was to the Warriors? Because I don't see. I mean, I ain't really heard people call him like, hey, man, y' all trying to get up off Draymond, because we love to have it. Do you see calls like that happening? I don't. Now, I'm not saying that he's. I'm saying he's great there for them in that system, but to take him somewhere else and ask him, what are you going to ask him to do? He's not a scorer. He. He still can do. He still can defend.
Ice
He's.
Joe
He's an okay rebounder. He can run your offense, but he don't have the shoe. He ain't got Steph, and he doesn't have Clay. So how valuable is he to another team as he was or is to the.
Ice
The Warriors? I don't know. Cause ain't nobody got no damn Steph Curry. And I just think that the chemistry that Draymond and Steph has, you know, nobody in the league has that, bro. And so, no, I mean, it's hard for me to see him playing somewhere else, Uncle Ocho, considering everything that he's done in Golden State. But, hell, they got rid of Klay. I just think the one person who they ain't gonna ever get rid of is Stephen Kirk. I don't think they ever gonna get rid of him.
Ocho
Steph gonna get frustrated. He gonna get frustrated. Cause if you look at it the way the team is built, the way the team is constructed, they're not constructed to win. So Steph out there just doing, you know, stat padding, you know, you don't have a chance of winning another ring. I know. You already got, what, four? We got four rings already, huh?
Ice
I think.
Joe
Correct.
Ice
I think they do got to make some changes, though. Okay, Ocho? I mean, I don't know what changes they can really make or if they can even go out and get any big time free agents, but, I mean, hell, you was fighting to get in the play in. Ain't no way. You mean to tell me you bringing Steve Kerr back and y' all coming back with this same team?
Joe
No, no, I don't see that.
Ocho
I don't have a chance.
Joe
You're in the play in, and you've been in the play in the last three years.
Ocho
Hey, what, Little Drake? What if Draymond does come back? Obviously, I think LeBron is gone. Do you see any scenario where LeBron ends up in Golden State next year? Or is that far fetched?
Ice
I don't see it.
Joe
Look, look, the, the, the warriors wanted Draymond. I just don't know if I'm. Excuse me. The warriors wanted LeBron, but I don't know if that's something that he was actively searching for. The question is. Look, I, I don't. At the end of the day, what does LeBron want? I don't know how many 50 million, 60 million dollar contracts gonna be out there? Joe, I just. Be honest, not for. I understand he's a draw, but I don't know if I can. If I can bust my roster up, bring him on at that number. And it. Because I'm trying to win a chat. At the end of the day, I'm trying to win a championship. That's what he wants.
Ocho
Hold on. You're trying to win a championship, but, you know, closer to the championship with the roster you got now, and there's really nobody you can bring in that can get you closer to that championship?
Joe
Are you talking about in the Lakers?
Ocho
I'm talking about over there in, in. In the Bay, in Golden State. Yeah.
Joe
No, I just don't see it. I mean, you got Al Horford over there, who's, who's serviceable, but Al gotta be. Al got to be pushing for the joke.
Ice
About 40.
Joe
About 40.
Ice
Probably about five years younger than me.
Joe
So Al's 40. I mean, Steph's gonna be what, 38, 38, 39.
Ice
They're gonna be an old ass team.
Joe
Boy. Yeah,
Ocho
Joe, you at Joe.
Joe
At some point in time. Joe and Ocho, man, look, that's what the Rockets. Oh, you had Scotty Pippen, you had Elijah one, you had. I don't know if Clyde was still there. I think Clyde might have played one, I'm not sure. And Barkley, they were way, way past their prime. Yeah, I mean, what do I hope that LeBron will be 42. Al Horford's 40 staff would be 38. Draymond will be what, 36? 37. I just don't know what, what we expect to do. Do what with that?
Ice
Yeah. Ojo be 45 in June. Late June.
Ocho
Hey, okay, Joe. Okay. 45. Okay, okay, okay.
Ice
You know what I mean?
Ocho
Okay. I mean, now you, you ain't getting up there because. Listen, I'm 58, Joe. I still look like I'm 23. So you doing Are you doing something right?
Ice
You know, spring chicken. No more, Joe. I used. I used to be good.
Joe
I used to be real good.
Ocho
Hey, I'm glad you know, you ain't no spring chicken. What? Huh? I'm gonna show you. You ain't either. Yeah?
Joe
Yeah. Draymond just turned 36. Did he turn. He turned 36 in March.
Ice
Yeah. It's gonna be interesting.
Joe
What?
Ice
What the Golden State, what the warriors are going to do. I mean, they just. They brought Kurt back, and I'm sure, you know, he got some changes he want to make.
Joe
Steph is 38. He gonna be 39. He gonna be 39 next year.
Ocho
Hey, he's special. He's special, though. He don't really count.
Ice
Well, he missed a lot of time this year, too, though.
Ocho
Yeah, he would hurt. What was wrong with him? Joey hurt his knee.
Ice
Yeah, he hurt his knee.
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
Ah, shit.
Joe
And guess what? Injury start coming with greater regularity.
Ocho
Hey, Steph, if you need a nutritionist, holla at your boy. I get you, right?
Joe
Al Horford is 39. Aiden Boyd, as a matter of fact, he'll be 40 his birthday in June.
Ocho
Adam. Boys. Oh, boy.
Joe
I don't really know how far a 42 year old, a 40 year old, a 38. A 38 year old, I. 39, 30. I don't know how far they gonna take you, Joe.
Ice
I don't either.
Joe
I just don't.
Ocho
Hey, hey, they might be being slick, man, you know, when them lottery balls come up, Joe.
Ice
Yeah, what you saying?
Ocho
I can see. I can see it play out. Let me see out the blue. You know, you got all these old, old players, right? But you know what?
Joe
Hell, Steph just turned 30.
Ocho
Hey, we know something. Under the table, we gonna slide your new two year, right? And we gonna make sure you get this lottery pick.
Joe
Hey, all I know is you fool around like David Stern. Hey, I asked the Timberwolves about trying to do contracts under the table. What does it do to you?
Ice
Set your ass way back, voided the
Joe
contract, took the next three. Took the next three that you couldn't have a first round pick and blew it up.
Ocho
Hey, I'm. Listen, I'm just throwing. I'm just throwing scenarios out there that could be possible.
Joe
Oh, yeah, it's, you know, I mean, listen, it's possible. You got a team and then you got Jimmy. I mean, Jimmy Butler still there, but Jimmy Butler's coming off an ACL injury.
Ice
Yeah, that's gonna be tough, bro. They had a nice squad this year.
Ocho
Now, see, if it happened, they don't don't remember who said it first. What's that? Didn't boy get an early pick? Early that. That lottery pick for some reason that. That little ping pong ball say warriors out the blue.
Ice
I don't know about that, Ocho.
Ocho
I feel you.
Joe
I still don't know how much that's gonna help a mocho.
Ocho
They just need some young big.
Ice
They do need a big. And they. The bigs don't come now. They don't come from around the corner like they used to back in the day. It's hard to find a big now boy.
Ocho
Hey. Hey. Well, young bull from Purdue went
Joe
who Zach eating?
Ocho
Yeah. Where he went?
Joe
Memphis.
Ocho
Okay. He played
Ice
with John. They would get money over there.
Ocho
Okay.
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
Trying to think about Biggs.
Joe
Yeah. Then they're big. So we'll. We'll see if they can. You know, they want to keep this thing together. I guess it's like because how many. I wonder how many years Steph got on his contract because that'd be. That's gonna be. That's gonna be very, very interesting.
Ice
I agree.
Joe
He unrestricted free engine in 27. So he got this year one year 62 million. No, hold on. He's on the contract with Golden State through 2627. He signed a one year extension in August of 24. So he said the earns. Yeah. So we got two years left. You got two years. So it could. There you go. It coincides with what The Steve Kerr contracts coincide with what? Steph Curry contract expiring. Draymond has this year on his contract a player option for 26, 27. Yeah, they probably so if that. That's. They constructed it like that for a reason. Yep. I think they're like, okay, Steph will let them know what he wants to do and they'll do what they do. But I just don't see it. I. I just don't see Golden State being a serious threat anymore. The way it's too deep now. Hey.
Ocho
That window closed.
Joe
Minnesota, the spurs, the Nuggets. I just don't see it. I just don't.
Ocho
That window closed.
Ice
That's why I think Curry. Curry gonna have to team up with somebody on.
Ocho
I just took told you.
Joe
Oh, somebody gonna have to come here. I don't think he wants to go anywhere, Joe. I don't.
Ice
Yeah, I probably. I wouldn't want to leave neither, but I just can't. I don't see LeBron going to Golden State if I.
Joe
If.
Ocho
You know, Braun always wanted to play with Curry now, but here's the thing.
Ice
If Brian leave. If Braun just so happened to lead the Lakers, I think he coming somewhere out East. I don't know where, but I think he'd come somewhere out east so he can get the hell out of that Western Conference. That damn juggernaut out there.
Ocho
Well, what you think about LeBron coming down here with.
Joe
Put him on Detroit?
Ice
What you mean now? Yeah, what you mean?
Ocho
What did my a. What you think about LeBron coming back? Think about LeBron coming back to. To the Heat with Yanis.
Ice
You can't rule out now he might go back home. Let's say Cleveland don't get up out of here.
Joe
So what you gonna put. You go. You gonna replace Harden with him.
Ice
You gonna. You're gonna put. They gonna.
Ocho
You know, he ain't got to have the ball in his hand.
Ice
Now, now, now, you know some numbers,
Joe
but I think you want the ball in his hand, huh? In that situation, because you want Donovan. You don't want. You know, Donovan like, hey, Donovan, do your thing. Off the ball.
Ice
I'm just saying, man.
Ocho
Make that thing work, man. Set the pic for me, Joe.
Ice
Nah, hell no. You setting the pick for me.
Ocho
Shit, the devil is a lie, boy. You crazy as hell.
Ice
No shooting ass. You gotta set the pic, bro.
Ocho
Joe, man, set the pick for me, man. Matter of fact, you know what, Joe? Get your ass out the way. ISO, ISO, ISO, ISO, ISO. Clear that. Hey, hey, Unc, clear that. Clear it out.
Ice
Clear it out. This is why you can't have nobody like this on your team. Cause, see, he don't wanna play his role. You know what I'm saying?
Ocho
Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. I know. Sit your ass. Get your ass out my way.
Ice
That ain't your role. On our team, if we all on teams. That is not your role.
Ocho
Hold on, Joe. Joe, chill. Chill, Chill, Joe, chill. Hey, hey, Joe. If I was a basketball player. Yeah. You hear me? You got. You got to know. You got to understand your role, boy. I'm the alpha, Joe. I'm the alpha. I'm running the ship. I'm steering this. Now, when I pass it to you, you can do your thing. When I go on the bench, your
Ice
role is to hustle and play damn defense. That's your damn role. I need you to be a star in that role, okay?
Ocho
Right, Right. Hey, hey, Joe, let me tell you something.
Joe
I need you to be a superstar role player.
Ocho
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. See, I don't. I. I don't think Joe understand who I am. Huh, Joe? I put butts in the seat. I could fill a stadium out by myself, Joe. So I definitely ain't playing no guy. I'm gonna play defense, right? I'm gonna sit in the chair, Joe. I'm a sliding puppy, Joe.
Ice
I'm a slide.
Joe
You hear me?
Ocho
I'm a slide, Em, right? But also people coming to see me for what I do on the offensive end, Joe.
Ice
Hey, hey, I'll make sure I throw you a live. I'll make sure you get a highlight or two.
Joe
But, you know, you gonna be a
Ice
defender, a pick and roll guy. You're gonna be the screener, you know what I mean?
Ocho
Nah.
Ice
You gonna be doing all this, Joe,
Ocho
if you playing with me, you gonna be deandre Aiden. Huh? You gonna be.
Ice
Oh, I already know. I can't even play on the team with dude. I already know that.
Ocho
Hey, Joe, I'm. Hey, hey, Joe, you got, you got to think. You got to take the comparison to me in, in football and transition that in. In the basketball.
Ice
Transition like that, bro.
Ocho
Oh, it's. It's going to for me. It's going. It's going to for me, Joe. The people coming to see me, man, what you talking about?
Ice
Your shooting ability ain't like that, Ojo. We just got to be 100.
Ocho
But you gotta understand, let's just say this was my sport, if it was my sport, therefore everything you just mentioned will be up to par based on who I am.
Ice
Okay, so if we were playing football, who would I be in football then?
Ocho
If it was football, you'd be like, damn, what's a good comparison for Joe as a basketball player but in football, huh?
Joe
He gonna be Mike Evans.
Ice
Yeah, I like that.
Ocho
Oh, Mr. Consistency. Mr. Consistency. I like that.
Ice
Nice.
Ocho
I like that.
Ice
Mike probably gonna have a hell of a year over there in San Fran too, man.
Ocho
Mike finna go slap ass crazy over there, boy, in that offense.
Joe
Hey, Oo the chat calling you OO Perkins. Kendrick Perkins.
Ice
Who?
Joe
They said you Kendrick Perkins. So you. We said rebound and setting picks.
Ocho
See, See the chat tripping the traction. Hey, I think the chat. Boy, y' all better. Y' all better YouTube and Google me. Stop playing.
Joe
Ocho. You was that football. That'll be.
Ocho
No, but I'm just saying, I'm just. I'm just saying, if we talking basketball, think about me playing basketball from 4 years old all the way up.
Joe
Yes, but you didn't. So we talking about now, and you talk about this man that played the sport. You talking about, he gonna be deandre Ayton and you gonna be the guy that.
Ocho
Shoot.
Joe
You gonna be Kobe?
Isaiah Thomas
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Joe
Or you gonna be.
Ocho
No, no, no, no, no. Because I play too much. I play too much.
Joe
Okay, you gonna be Shay.
Ocho
No, no, Shay. Too serious. I need somebody. I need somebody to have fun playing the game.
Joe
There is no. Ain't nobody making a whole lot of money. That's really good. Ain't made nobody. Everybody serious about this.
Ocho
It gotta be one NBA player. That's really, really good, but made it fun. No,
Ice
I can see you. Yeah, I can see you being like Jed Vanderbilt. Like, I can see you being like a. Like a Vanderbilt dude. Play for the Lakers. I can see you.
Joe
Because he.
Ice
He everywhere, Ocho. I mean, everywhere. Hell of an energy. You know what I mean? Got a nice look, but they don't
Joe
throw him no balls. Yeah, they don't give him the rock.
Ocho
Yeah. That ain't me.
Ice
They're trying to keep it 100. Oh, hey, we need him.
Jared Adonno
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Joe
Ocho said he want the ball.
Ocho
Nah. Hey, I can play off the ball, though. I don't need the ball. I can play off the ball. And I'm efficient as hell. I'm efficient. I'm efficient like Jake gonna be getting
Ice
a lot of layup.
Joe
Okay, hold up. What about Ant Man? Ant man, have fun.
Ice
Hey, see? Bingo.
Joe
That's the perfect example.
Ocho
Hey, that's the perfect example. No, no, no, no. Joe, Joe, think about it. Personality wise, when the camera in front of him. Ant man is me.
Ice
Personality wise. But y' all games ain't gonna eat now.
Ocho
It's the same on and off the court. We the same. Hey, having kids and Same shit. Ant man, that's me. Yeah.
Ice
Hey,
Joe
Uh.
Ocho
Oh.
Joe
Ocho appeared to take a shot at LeBron at 1am in Albany.
Ice
Who.
Joe
I shouldn't even been shocked to see you in that arena because you always made a career off switching up teams. Damn. He.
Ice
Who said this?
Ocho
Hey, I got a question. Now. Before, are we sure. Are we sure this wasn't AI? And this is. This is the part of the album Iceman that's coming out.
Joe
Yeah, he referenced. He. He referenced. Also referenced LeBron number and another line saying, please stop asking what's going on with 23 and me. I'm a real one and he's not. It's in my DNA.
Ocho
Damn. Yeah. Yeah, I got to. I got. See, you got to be careful with some of this stuff, especially on the Internet, you know, Ain't no telling. I would for me personally. Yeah, I would wait until that album comes out, because what we got. The album come out what, May 14th
Joe
man, don't start me. The line. May 14th. Tomorrow it is. Yeah.
Ocho
Hey, hey, Chat. Y' all would know better. Do Iceman come out this. This month or is it next month?
Ice
No, they come out this month.
Joe
Tomorrow night. It don't. Oh, well, you going on east coast time. Because it's already. It's already. It's already the 14th on the East coast, but it comes out the 15th. Ocho Joe.
Ice
All right,
Joe
midnight, which will be.
Ocho
Okay.
Joe
Friday morning.
Ocho
I was able. We'll be on there. We'll be on it, right?
Joe
No, we off tomorrow.
Ocho
Nah, nah, nah, nah. I ain't got nothing to do.
Joe
We got. We need a break.
Ocho
I don't need.
Joe
I mean, you and Joe did such a good job. I mean, y' all could. You know, you. You can handle it. Hey, hey, no, that mean we got to work. No, no, no, no, no. That would mean I got to work. Joe say Joe got it. Joe said he got his thing covered.
Ocho
Hey, so, man, y' all see.
Ice
Y' all see that intro?
Ocho
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. That's not fair. That's not fair.
Joe
What's not fair, Joe?
Ocho
Reading from something. I was. I went off the top of the head.
Joe
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Ice
I went off the top of the head.
Ocho
So now if you a Joe, I seen you put the script in front of you.
Ice
Hey, hey, listen, listen. Don't get mad at me because I was prepared for my opportunity.
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Ice
with. My opportunity presented itself. Don't be.
Ocho
Don't be mad at me. I'm not gonna be mad.
Ice
But listen, you can't be. Hey, you can't beat me in. You can't beat me in that. You can't beat me in the intro. You can't beat me in the outro. You can't be.
Ocho
Hey, if I got it written in
Joe
front of me, I would definitely beat you. Oh, so you want. Oh, you want. You want. You want the intro on Friday?
Ocho
Listen, give me the intro on Friday and have it for me written out like he did. And watch what happened.
Joe
They ain't had nothing for me.
Ice
What?
Ocho
Joe, I seen you put the intro up funny before you started.
Ice
Ask. Ask, did they? They ain't send me nothing.
Ocho
Oh, you think I'm a fool, Boy, I was born at night. I was born that night.
Ice
I'm telling you the truth. I'm telling you the truth.
Ocho
Hey, Joe, you. Hey. A lot. Don't care who you tell him.
Joe
Oh, Joe, he really didn't know he was supposed to be doing it. Cause he was like. And I just told him, hey, Joe, you got the intro now. I don't know if he had one. I know. Hey, we didn't send him anything.
Ice
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Ocho
You saw him put the clipboard right in front of him, right? He got the laportier. He got the laportier. Scripting all down.
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Ice
What are we talking about?
Joe
Listen, listen, listen, listen.
Ice
After yesterday, after that happened, when they sprained it on you, I said, boy, look, I'd rather be prepared for an opportunity than to be unprepared for an opportunity.
Ocho
I like mine better when mine was authentic and organic without no script.
Ice
I said, hey, I gave your props.
Joe
I said, yours was okay.
Ice
Mine was just.
Ocho
I'm mad. I'M hey, you know what?
Ice
Yours was okay.
Joe
Mine. All right, Chad, I'm gonna put it to the boat chat. Who had the best intro? Ocho or Ice?
Ocho
Come on, man. And you put it to the chat. Of course they gonna say, here's better. Cause he's scripted it.
Joe
I'm off the top. Hell, he know.
Ocho
Hey, when you. Hey. When you. Hey. When you go off the dome with no help, then let me know.
Joe
Damn, you mad.
Ice
Hey, don't get mad at me, bro.
Ocho
Hey, what I'm mad for? Hey, you. Hey, you need. You need help.
Joe
You hate.
Ocho
You needed help. You. You put. I didn't need help.
Ice
Y' all put that back on quarterback. Y' all let me get some reps. Your ass in trouble.
Joe
You hear me, Ocho? So you go ahead and prepare. You got the intro on Friday night.
Ocho
But listen, this is the thing. One thing about it. If you give me a script and it's in front of me and I'm reading it, and I. And I could be animated, he gonna lose it. They didn't get.
Ice
Let me finish.
Ocho
They didn't get. Hey, let me tell you something. Hey, when you want to talk, raise your hand. I'll call on you, okay? Hey, hey, Unc, you know how I am. Especially when you. When it comes to me being on camera, and you give me a script, he gonna lose regardless, because that's what I do.
Ice
Would you tell this man
Joe
we did not send Joe a script? We did not send him a script. We were. Honestly.
Ocho
I tell you. I tell you this. He looked at the intro and wrote everything down. I tell you that. He said the same things you say verbatim in his words. So what we talking about?
Joe
On. Oh, my goodness.
Ocho
And still,
Joe
I mean, he got the po. It's a premium drink, like an exo. Hey, hey, hey.
Ocho
I'm talk about he word for word. I'm like, what the hell are we.
Joe
Hey, I want to thank you guys for your eyes, ears, and your word of mouth. Hey. Matter of fact, hey, Ojo, he been listening. Because all this is. We did. We. We never had a script. So even when I do the club. Shay Shay. It ain't no script. That's just me. And over the years, you just remember.
Ice
Yeah.
Joe
So I tell you what.
Ocho
Hey, listen.
Joe
She said no.
Ocho
You just go, hey, listen, tomorrow. I mean, Friday, when we come Friday, right? Yeah, I'm gonna do the intro. I'm gonna change the intro completely.
Joe
Okay?
Ocho
I' ma still talk about laportier.
Joe
It's your. It's your intro. You do it how you.
Ice
Yeah.
Ocho
Hey, now I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna show you how it's supposed to be. I'm gonna show you how it's supposed to be.
Ice
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I don't give a damn what you do. Give me my damn credit that
Joe
you gotta give credit, though, Ocho. It was a good one. Now, come on, now.
Ocho
It was good. Okay, I get to him. Hey, one to 10. It was a five.
Ice
Oh, man. Get the hell out of here.
Ocho
It was a five.
Ice
Get the hell out of here.
Ocho
Hey, listen, it wasn't. It wasn't authentic. It wasn't organic. You just re. You was. You was regurgitated with uncle already say so, man.
Ice
Come on.
Joe
All the list. The.
Ice
The stuff I gave you. My partner near my player partner.
Ocho
Okay, okay, okay.
Ice
One.
Ocho
Okay, okay, okay, okay. One to ten. I give you a six. Then. I give you a six.
Joe
Oh, the chat. The chat said the chat giving Ocho giving an ISO a 10. The staff gave him a 10, too, Ocho. So you got your work cut out
Ice
for you tomorrow, Ojo, Ocho. I said for your feet, not your hands.
Ocho
I know. Cause I said that. I said that. Yeah, on yesterday's show, Joe. So you just added that to it. I said that yesterday, Joe. Hey, see now. Hey, one thing about it. Don't never let me get in my creative bag. Cause I'm gonna be in my bag on Friday. Friday. Friday night show. It's gonna be on.
Ice
Hey, hey, hey. I know.
Joe
You know one damn thing.
Ice
I'm paying attention.
Ocho
You know that don't so. I hope so.
Ice
Yeah.
Ocho
Hey, hey. I'm coming out. I' ma have smoking all y' all laughing, and I'm gonna have smoking all in my intro. Hey, remember. Hey, remember how Drusky had the. Remember how Josky had the fireworks for the Erica, Erica Kirk thing?
Joe
Yeah. Yeah.
Ocho
That's how my intro gonna be.
Joe
Oh, my goodness. I mean, he had it down. I said, please make sure you hit the subscribe button. Please hit the. Like, We can take some time off. Oh, Joe got it. Joe got it.
Ice
I got y' all telling you. Hey, look, that's how I was trying to show y'.
Ocho
All.
Ice
I want to try and show you up, Ocho.
Ocho
Hey, Joe, you can't show me up, boy. This me.
Ice
Look, look, here you go. Here he go. I thought we were having real conversation.
Ocho
I'm just letting you know this me. Are we gonna have a conversation when we hit that court?
Ice
Hey, hey, y'. All, I'm in tears just thinking about that Boy. Hey.
Joe
Oh, man, I feel bad because I, you know, look, LeBron was. LeBron and Drake were close. They hung out together, you know, and you know, LeBron used to get, I mean, when Drake drops, Drake would drop something. Obviously LeBron would get an opportunity to listen to it first. I don't, I don't know. I just.
Ice
Hey, man, you know, hey, them beefs go far, man. You know, hey, hey, if I'm beefing with somebody and you, and you play a partner with him. Hold on, I'm gonna look at you side.
Joe
Yeah, for sure. I gotta cut out. So the best thing is.
Jared Adonno
Yeah.
Joe
If somebody beefing, just go ahead and stay up out of it. Right? You got to. Yeah, for sure.
Ice
Yeah.
Joe
You think I'll let somebody got a problem with Ocho and. Hey, man. And you. No. Whoa.
Ice
Yeah, yeah.
Ocho
Hey, hey, matter of fact, you know what's funny too though, when you think about it, if there's anybody in the world that really don't like me, no matter what, that says more about them as opposed to me. I'm a very, hey, Joe. I'm a very likable person.
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
You hear me?
Ice
Yeah, you are.
Joe
You know, you don't say that. You won't criticize. You ain't gonna say that bad about nobody.
Ocho
No, no, I've been getting better. I've been getting better.
Joe
No, no, you getting better. But I'm saying even, even then. Yeah, they like, man, because even when you say something, people gonna think, they're gonna think, well, he just doing that for the show. He just doing that for clicks and they don't realize. That's look, that's my honest assessment. Yeah. And you know.
Ice
Yeah.
Joe
Me to say to, even for me to say something critical, I gotta really sincerely, genuinely believe that, bro. I need, I need you to give me better than that. Yeah. So if Ocho criticize you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell you what it is. It is. Hold on. T. I rap. When does TI album come out?
Ice
Oh, it's probably gonna come out soon.
Ocho
It say it come out on the 15th too.
Joe
Damn.
Ice
Yeah, I'm gonna see what the King talking about.
Joe
I mean, but even if Drake album is good, you think people gonna give him the credit that he deserves?
Ice
It depends on like he, he, it's
Joe
gonna have to be a monster.
Ice
No, I think it's gonna be good. I, I, I enjoy all the work that he's pretty much done, but I think he knows he, he probably wants to over deliver in this TI Album
Joe
come out in September.
Ocho
Nah, it come. No, it's a on the 14th.
Joe
Nah, I say September.
Ocho
Oh, September 4th. Okay.
Joe
Yeah. September 25th.
Ice
Oh, yeah.
Joe
Maybe he got him maybe dropping another single. Boy, they, they. That. That one he dropped. Boy, they play that. They keep that thing on tick tock.
Ice
Oh, yeah.
Joe
Geez.
Ice
Yeah. Welcome to the checker flag. Running through the.
Joe
Yeah, yeah, but, yeah, but look, Drake. I mean, look, Drake been at the top for about 10, 15 while we playing.
Ice
Hey, at least I'm talking about strong.
Ocho
You on a good run.
Ice
Oh, he don't really miss too. Too much. No, I ain't really seen the miss. I'm gonna keep it real. I'm looking forward to this album.
Joe
Yeah, I mean, he got. I mean, look, I. I don't know. I met him one time. He was great to me. Hey, man, love you on Undisputed, man. Keep up the great work. Boom. That was it. I. I don't know. I don't know the man like that. I don't. You know, I listen to rap here and there, you know, I'm more of an old school type of guy, you know. I still listen to the old school rap. Dedicated Tupac, big and stuff like that. But. Hey, hey, Chad, Chad.
Ice
Y' all bear with me. I'm gonna try to see if I can get him as one of my guests when I take over. When the ISO take.
Joe
Oh, you'll get Drake. I got. I got pretty.
Ice
I got a decent relationship with him. I'm gonna see if I can get him on.
Joe
I'm gonna get him on. I Come on. Can I come on? Oh, yeah, yeah. Hey, Ojo, can we come on? We could be g. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ocho
Hey, when I go on vacation, boy I'm on vacation, boy.
Joe
Oh, you know.
Ice
Hey, we gonna have a. Oh, we gonna have a. We gonna have a good time.
Ocho
I'm gonna be in the chat. Don't worry about it. I'm gonna be somewhere with my feet kicked up with. With a. With a. With a. With a pinoc colado.
Joe
With a.
Ice
My tie who. A mai tie.
Joe
My feet won't be top shelf. My feet won't be kicked. I'll be somewhere. I'll be somewhere. I'm gonna take a vacation, guys. You know what? I'm gonna really take some time. I'm gonna really get away. I'm gonna dec. I'm gonna decompress. I'm gonna turn. I'm gonna put my phone on DND
Ice
we're gonna lose his mind with his phone on D and D.
Joe
Yeah. Oh, yeah. But ain't nothing worse than a Plane not having WI fi.
Ocho
Hey, hey, listen, depending on how far you going, if you're going over water, it's gonna be as. It's gonna be a little short period
Joe
coming back from New York or Jersey. That's six hours coming back to Vegas, no wife. Hey, man, I remember. I got. I said, man, I tell this lady, this flight attendant, she said, here, you can use my pass. You. You sleep like you. You real irritable. I said, can I use your phone? Can I use your WI fi? She gave me her WI fi code and everything.
Ocho
Hey, yeah, not having WI fi hurt, boy. Especially if. If you not sleepy and it's a long flight. Anything over three hours and you ain't got no wi.
Joe
Oh, yeah.
Ice
Oh, yeah.
Joe
Hey, I'll be flying from Vegas, from Vegas to la and it be killing me.
Ice
That's why I try. I try to sleep. Pretty much the flight.
Joe
Hey, D. Jordan be sleep. He don't even be on the face. Jordan be sleep. I ain't never seen nobody sleep like that. Jordan sleep like a six year old. He sleeps from the location to the airport. He get on the plane, knock down back there. George got his hoodie on.
Ocho
Hey, that mean Jordan like, he be snoring. Hey, hey, Jordan, like when you have kids, you know, when you. When you got kids that are young.
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
You know, you put them in the car when you. You can't get them to go to sleep, put in the car. Driving around, driving around the corner real quick.
Joe
I think he got narcolepsy.
Ice
Hey, hold on. I'm gonna tell y' all something. That's me. I'll be asleep for the plane take off.
Joe
I'm talking about gone up, Joe.
Ice
Yeah, I'll be out of there. Hey, look, I use them flights to give me some rest because that's it. Seemed like the flight go by a lot quicker when you sleep, if you ain't sleep. Seem like the flight long.
Joe
Hey, it does.
Ice
You coming from?
Joe
I mean, we went. You. We went to can be Ash, Shelly. Who else on the flight with us? Just me, you and Shelly. Right. And Jamie. I stayed the whole while ass tried to sleep. Now you ain't going to sleep. I can't sleep. I did. Every time she try to sleep, I let her get that thing good sleep. She. Hey, Ash, let me ask you something. I forgot what it was that day. My bad. I remember.
Ice
Hey, listen, I flew from Atlanta to Vegas. You know, it probably was about four. Four, Man, I'm talking about out of there before the plane took off. Look, the stool she Steady tapping on me.
Ocho
She.
Ice
She been tapping on me five minutes, trying to wake me up. And I need you to put your seatbelt on. Damn.
Joe
Oh, that's what I do. I put that on. Hey, I go ahead and put that on. Cause that's the one thing I be sitting straight up.
Ice
Because I don't want.
Joe
Because I. Oh, now you talking about. Like my grandma used to say, boy, hell flew all through me. That'd be dead sleeping there with me about a seatbelt to bring the seat up.
Ice
Oh, man.
Joe
But I need you to let your seat.
Ice
I need you to let your seat up. We ain't took a wing. We ain't. Come on, man. I just got it back a tad bit. I just need a little lean in there.
Ocho
I don't sleep, and I. I feel bad for people, especially when I'm in public. If you. If you sit next to me on the plane, especially in the exit row, well, you better be ready to talk. You better be ready to talk.
Joe
No, hey.
Ocho
Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. I'm a Yappa boy. I'm talking about. I don't know you. I'm gonna ask, you know, where you from? How you doing? How's your family? Do you like sports? Yeah, but, yo, why talk your head off? Random strangers. Random strangers. Why? By the time we land, I'm gonna know everything about you from A to Z.
Ice
Well, I'll be out of there most of the time.
Joe
I mean, all the time, Shelly will fly, but Shelly don't sleep. So she constantly, you know, tapping me. But most of the time, if I fly with somebody, it's gonna be either Shelly, my sister, or Kayla. Yeah, Ash, you know, but see, Ash, obviously, she don't say nothing when I be bringing back the food, when I bring back the shrimp or I bring back the short ribs, she ain't got no problem. Be waking up then.
Ice
Yeah.
Joe
And everybody looking at her like, well, how you get that
Ice
now?
Joe
She ain't got no problem. She ain't got no problem. Wake me up. Because, you know, now they don't cut out the food service. I mean, what, 350 miles? Anything less than 350, you don't get nothing in the back. Yeah. Nice. Damn. For what? Man, did you see the price of them tickets? Nacho and Ocho.
Ice
Yeah.
Ocho
I'm glad I ain't got the guy.
Joe
My sister coming out in three weeks.
Ocho
How much was it?
Joe
Four weeks, a month.
Ocho
How much was it?
Joe
Two.
Ocho
Two what? 200? 2,000.
Joe
Hey, and. And. And she flying. She don't. She. I don't I don't think she flying. She. Well, she got to go to what you call her. She got like two or three stops, right?
Ocho
Yeah.
Ice
Oh, yeah. It's hard, boy. It's hard to fly.
Ocho
Well, that's. That's crazy. Well, I'm sure at some point the prices will go back down. 2500.
Ice
Yes.
Joe
Yeah. How much you think your flight was to fly for? For WWE OO.
Ocho
Oh, shoot, I don't know how much it was. Huh?
Joe
Yeah, 25 Hyundai.
Ocho
It was. What?
Joe
Yes.
Ocho
Yeah, y' all gotta. Hey, you got. Let me, Let me. Let me book my own stuff.
Joe
No, we ain't let you book nothing. Hey, we gonna. We gotta make sure you get your ass here. We're not letting you book anything.
Ocho
I. I get. I get that for the least. Least price possible. I don't care if I gotta have two, three stops.
Ice
Come on.
Joe
My sister can have a couple of stops because she ain't on no schedule. Oh, no. You getting direct?
Ocho
Yeah, I mean, I'm just trying. I'm trying to save y' all money, man. You know, that's all I'm about.
Joe
Well, I'm gonna take your. I'm gonna put your freaking flybys. I'm gonna get your freaking fly miles. Hey, you know what? I tell you what you do. If you stop smoking in people hotel room. I greatly appreciate that, cuz. They kill him. They kill him by what you call it.
Ocho
For real.
Joe
What you mean for Joe? This man talk about for real.
Ice
Yeah, that's a charge, bro. When they. When they. Hey, you think you smoking on the lawn?
Ocho
People don't know when I smoked in the. In the hotel. Oh, you talking about out there?
Joe
Every hotel room you go to at the wind.
Ocho
Okay, just that time. Okay. I mean, most of the time that definitely.
Joe
Some other times.
Ocho
Yeah, okay, I got you. I got you.
Joe
If you. If you want. If you on ESPN or a Netflix dime.
Ice
Yeah.
Ocho
Oh, okay. I got you. I got you.
Joe
A Shay shit me today. Please go outside. Please. Please go outside.
Ocho
I got you. I got you.
Joe
Yeah. And you know, now you know how the airlines are. No prices ain't never going back down.
Ice
Oh, no, sir.
Joe
They have to clear it out of the way.
Ocho
Hold on.
Joe
Thinking about Frontier. Frontier thinking about they might have to close that door. So now with less competition, how are you going to get from point A to point B?
Ocho
Hey, but see, this is the funny thing about it. If they want to play that game now, certain people are going to have. Certain people are going to have to stop flying. What you're Going to see everybody can't afford those tickets, especially not in this economy. So what's going to happen? They're going to be forced, Joe. Make the prices affordable. At some point, you have to. Everybody can't afford. Everybody can't afford to fly like that.
Ice
Hey, hey, hey, hey, you right. But I just had to book a couple flights to Minnesota for next month for my daughter's volleyball tournament. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Caused me a few grand.530 because I
Joe
book a month in advance. I don't book my mama ticket. Yeah, yeah.
Ice
Hey, hey. I was gonna bring the fam out there. I looked at them damn ticket price. I said, hold on. It's just gonna be me and baby girl.
Joe
Oh, no, no. But, hey, they going up. I mean, hey, a family. Yeah, family of four. You gotta fly first class. It's gonna cost you about 11, 12,000. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So. But guess what? We gotta fly. I mean, that's. And I'm. I'm back and forth. I mean, I'm back and forth from Vegas to la. I mean, we. Hey, at least once.
Ice
Hey. So when we get in the nightcap plane.
Ocho
Hey, that would be crazy, man. You know, God. God. God probably gonna bless us. We'll be able to have our own private jet. Yeah. And we, you know, we. We have it. Have it wrapped with the nightcap sign.
Ice
Yeah.
Ocho
I'm telling you. Listen, I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you, I. I know the way the man upstairs work. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen.
Joe
But y', all, you know how much it takes to operate a play, don't you? I don't think you have any idea how much.
Ocho
I talked to Ross. I know how much it costs.
Joe
Yeah, yeah.
Ocho
I'm telling you, gonna get us one.
Joe
And you see the fuel prices are going up.
Ice
Yes, sir.
Ocho
Somebody I know somebody. Hey, I got my homeboy, right? He work at the Opalaka Airport. You know, most of the private planes fly at Opalaka Airport. I can get his gas. I can get his fuel for the low.
Ice
Hey, hey. He oversee the shipments that come in. I got some stuff need to come
Ocho
through there, depending on what it is. Long as I get a percentage.
Joe
Now bad look here, I'm gonna do the best I can to make sure you guys fly first class and not have to buy comfort.
Ocho
Hey, let me tell you something. When we have something to do, you do not have to put me in first class. Just sit. Put me in the exit row. But I need the window seat. If I don't have the window seat, I'd be pissed off. I don't need. I don't need no first class. I don't need all that.
Joe
I mean, but when you bring. When you bring what you call them? Cambodia. Hey, Cambodia ain't gonna want to sit back there.
Ocho
She ain't got no choice, boy. First class. I mean, we don't. Hey, we.
Joe
I don't.
Ocho
I don't. We ain't like that. We ain't like that. You know, we. We content exit road just fine.
Joe
I'll keep that in mind.
This episode dives deep into the hottest NBA news and narratives of the week, including Drake’s public shots at LeBron James, Steve Kerr’s return to the Warriors (and what that might mean for Golden State’s aging core), and speculation about what comes next for superstar Joel Embiid. The conversation blends stats, storytelling, personal anecdotes, and a playful, candid banter that’s become a calling card of the show.
(Starts around 02:36)
(Main discussion from 28:09 – 38:17)
(31:04 onward)
(46:05 – 47:29, 59:06)
(Several exchanges, esp. 19:24–21:42, 41:13–45:56)
(52:49 – end)
The episode reflects the authentic Club Shay Shay vibe: candid, stats-driven debates about NBA legacies and the ever-changing league, paired with humor and poignant reflections on friendship, legacy, and what it means to share the court—or studio—with the greats. The panel keeps it real, mixing playful ribbing with sharp basketball analysis, and doesn’t shy from controversial headlines.
Whether you’re an NBA fanatic tracking legacy, or just love spicy sports banter, this episode hits every note.