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B
You can really have it delivered or
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C
Really? Autotrader? Buy your car online? Really?
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The spurs so now we know who is going to be in the Western Conference finals and take on the OKC Thunder. The Spurs Molly Wap the Minnesota Timberwolves by the score of 139 to 109. The Wolves traded more picks for Rudy Gobert than he had total points in game five. Champagne those guys. They had six guys and double figures. Champagne was five or 10, four nine from the three. He had 18. Victor women yama Quiet Knife by his Standard he was 19 points but only shot the ball 11 times. Darren Fox had 21. He was 8 of 10. Devin Vassell he was 14. He had 11 points. The night belonged to Stephen Castle. Stephanie Excuse me, Stephan castle he had 32 points on 11 of 16. He came out scorching hard from the three point line and he didn't let up all night. So he had 32 points on 11 of 16 shooting five or seven for the three. Dylan Harper came up the bench. He was 15 points on six of eight shooting. But Minnesota, it was just not enough. You could see early on in this game I thought it was about to get out of hand early. Give Minnesota credit. They made a great push right before the half, but then the the the spurs came out of this third quarter and really put the game away. Jaden Jaden McDaniels had 13, do had 10. Ant man had 24. Nas Reed was scorching hot in the second quarter. He and Terence Shannon tried to keep them in it as best they could, but it wasn't enough. Nas Reed had 18 points and Shannon had 21 points, but it wasn't enough. The spurs just had too much depth out rebounded them. Plus 20. No. Plus 31. The spurs had 60 rebounds. The Timberwolves had 29 rebounds. That is crazy. Plus 31 on the glass. And that's why you have a lopsided game like what you had. 139 to 109. Joe, what did you. What you saw? You saw the spurs and we, we. I'm not surprised. I don't know if anybody should be surprised because we didn't think it would have got this far if they didn't throw Victor women Yama out of the game. What was that, Game three or game four? But it happened and it is what it is. But now we know the spurs and the Timber and the spurs and the Thunder and the Western Conference finals. 139 to 109. T. Woods, what did you like about the spurs and how they approached this game tonight?
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D
Joe, Tonight, Uncle Ocho, I thought the spurs finally put together a collective team effort as far as winning. Yes, Castle went off for 32 and 11, 11 rebounds, but for the most part, that whole entire squad played great, bro. I, I think if you. Minnesota, you. You started the game with, with rooted garden Castle. I, I didn't know what the hell that was about. Yeah, you know, you, you, you give him, you give, you give a guy like that dare shots because they ain't like he a non shooter.
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He could shoot.
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D
You give him dare shots and he make a couple, you in trouble. And that's what happened tonight. Castle got off to a great start in that first quarter and you could tell when he hit about 12 to 13 points, I said, oh, it's going to be a big night for him. You know, once you get, once you let a guy get rolling in this league, bro, it's hard to turn him off. And then those other guys just, I mean, they shot 55% from the field. What they shot 47 from.
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B
Yeah, he shot 56 from the floor, 47 from three. And at 85, it was 23 of 27 from the free throw line. 85%.
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D
Can't stop. Hey, hey, you can't. You, you can't win no games like that, bro. I know women Yama only had three blocks. But like we continue to say, like we continue to say all, all playoffs, bro. He alters so many shots and then when you look at Minnesota, how the hell you gonna win with Randall giving you three points?
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Randall. Randall. Let's be real, Joe. Randall was atrocious all series.
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D
He was, bro.
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He was bad all.
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D
He may have had a solid game. I think the game that they won in in San Antonio was a game one. I think he, I think he may have been solid that game, but for the most part they pretty much kept him at bay.
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B
And you look at and see this is, see this is the problem is that you have is that you got a guy like Rudy Gobert making 50 million and he becomes unplayable. If I got a receiver Ocho no matter and I'm paying him, let's just say for the sake of our I'm paying him $25 million. But on third down I bring him out the game. We what value is that? That's the money down. I can't play Rudy. For the most part they couldn't play him. He had zero points. The man hold on your starting center. He was zero points with three rebounds. Look how many guys hold Harrison Barnes played seven minutes, he had four rebounds. Kelly Olenek, he played eight minutes, he had four rebounds. Carter Bryant played 13 minutes, he has six rebounds. Luke Cornett played 14 minutes, he has six rebounds. Dylan Harper had five rebounds. Every player on the starting roster started for the spurs had more rebounds than Rudy. Rudy is seven plus foot tall. Yeah, that's unacceptable. That's, you know what if he's blocking shots if he's doing but it's just hard when your guy is that your starting center. And I got to take him out of the game because now if he can't guard Wimby, who can Julius Randall is giving up such a height disparity.
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Nobody.
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B
Who you who you gonna put on Reed Knives can't play him. So now you get try to go on and you try to double him. And the guys you you've already let guys get comfortable shooting. Damn shoot around threes.
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D
Yep, yep.
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Now they finish split your head to the white meat. Cause every time they shot go up what they turn to do Joe Docho. But look at the bench like yeah, hey, hey, Chris Fin. Don't look at me. I ain't got nothing right.
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D
I got no answer for you.
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B
Hey, but and when you go ahead,
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D
Joe, when you think about it, Rudy can't guard. He can't guard Wim Yama and Randall and Nas Reed, they have the foot speed to keep up with him. But hell, when he go up to
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shoot, they too small.
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D
Ain't nothing they can do, fellas. There's nothing they can do. They could be as physical as they want. He didn't kind of adjust it to that. And I, I, I think the spurs grew throughout this series. And hell, when Miyama just a cheat Code, bro. He's just a huge, he just too much of a difference maker. I mean you, you look at how he passed the ball, you know how he gets the other guys involved. He's not a regular, obviously we know he's not a regular 75 guy like he, he, he is a real, he is a real center with guard skills and that makes them super, super tough to beat.
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Bro.
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D
This is going to be a, a great series in the next round. But Minnesota, man, I thought they had a chance to push it to a Game 7, but they get off to such slow starts, man. You know to where? To where the spurs defense is so effective in their first cup in that first quarter or two that it kind of throws them off rhythm and then Ant man has to start forcing things, you know, just to kind of get going and they just too good, bro. They too good. They got too many weapons.
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Julius Rand gave me, gave me three points.
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E
You know what? Obviously going to this game.
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B
Jul gave me three points tonight, huh?
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E
Yeah, that's it. Hell, not only that, I was hoping Rudy, I, I was hoping Rudy could have one of those game where he surprises you and does something offensively that he doesn't do often. But I was hoping a game like tonight where he understands the importance of having some type of production offensively so you're not a liability. He, he didn't show up obviously having no rebounds and them having 31 more rebounds than the goddamn Wolves and you didn't have a chance at no point, Joe, did they even have a chance to actually win this game. At one point they were down what, 29, damn near 30 points. I think they closed it down maybe 50.
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End up losing by 30.
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E
Yeah, it was bad. And the game of basketball is all about matchups, all about matchup. And I think most of the people when it came to this series, because you had Ant man, you thought Ant man and some of the collective, some of the collective cast that he did have along with Julius Randle would find ways to get things done. The game where Wemby went out, that was one of the games where they took advantage and came through to win that game. I think game one, they were able to win because they were so aggressive and played Wimby so well. And Wemby was missing so many shots, Joe and unknown so many shots. So he wasn't efficient from the field. And then the game tonight, hell, they had them. They had the Wolves from the goddamn start.
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This game was supposed to be able to have. The spurs turned the ball over 15 times. Minnesota only had five and they lost by 30. Imagine if that flip side, if you flip that around, it's crazy how bad they get beat. That's. Now you're looking at a Knicks Sixers or Knicks Atlanta score. Yeah, yeah, because yeah, they were up what, 29. They were up 29 in the second and then the next day, you know, Minnesota cut it all the way down to 12. I'm like, oh my God, turnovers and turnovers and turnovers and turnovers. And when the one thing they can't do moving forward is that you can't turn the ball over against that team that you're going to play next.
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D
They gonna punish man and Ocho to kind of piggyback what you're saying about Gobert.
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Yes, sir.
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I think Minnesota gotta really take a hard look at this fellas, because I mean San Antonio is going to be good for at least the next decade if we just keeping it 100. And with Rudy, you can't even run a pick and roll to even try to get him alive. Not against Wimby Hill. He gonna, he gonna, he gonna get that. You know what I mean? So he's not effective offensively and defensively. Hell, he can't. I mean, what are you gonna do? He can't guard nobody defensively.
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And, and hold on, Joe, Just, just to say so put your GM cap on right now. Right? Put your, put your head coaching cap on right now. So you say the Wolves have to think about what to do, what to do with goddamn Rudy, him being a liability, hell, offensively and defensively when it comes to playing someone like Wimby. But hell, who's out there that can play Wimby, especially with it as good as he is, as tall as he is, as efficient as he is, and he's not selfish. Hell, he's a three level scorer. He can do everything. He can shoot from the three, he can shoot, you know, from the midi. And he could, he could take you off the goddamn dribble and drive. So there's really no answer for him in general. So I mean, questioning how Rudy looked against him. Hell, anybody that.
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You got to make him work the same exact. You got to make him work. You got to be able to score on him. You see, the thing is you let basically he relaxing though. He using all of his energy on offense because he already know Rudy ain't gonna give you nothing, right? So Rudy, Rudy is the. Is the least of my concern. As a matter of fact, I wonder what time it is in France right now, right? My mom and dad watching this game. Damn. I wonder if they're having tea and crumpets this time. I ain't thinking about him. He. He does. In a situation like this, you supposed to be under duress because you need to be worried about the. What the guy I'm going against, what he's capable of doing. Don't nobody worry about that. And we've seen this far too many times that Rudy Gobert becomes unplayable. You cannot have a guy making 40, 50 million dollars. I don't care the position that becomes unplayable. How is my point guard if I got a point guard, Joe? And I'm paying him 30, $40 million. But I can't have him on the court in the fourth quarter because he can't shoot. I can't have Rudy on the court because not only is he a liability defensively, he's more. He's a. He's a more of a liability offensively. He give me nothing.
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D
Hey, and you got a point. And when you think about it, the job that Rudy done against Jokic was amazing.
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B
Yes.
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D
But these are. These are two totally different bigs. You know, Wimby is a finesse big. You know, he. He go off the bound, shoot the three. You know, he's very elusive. The way he dribbles the ball, getting by. All he needs a step on you here. He dunking the ball, you know what I mean? The thing for Rudy Ojo, you know, when he's out there on the perimeter doing dribble handouts, women just kind of sitting back, bro. He like, okay, y' all do what y' all gonna do. I know Rudy ain't shooting nothing. You know what I mean? So he just kind of sitting back in the paint, and it may look like he far away from you, but, hell, once he extend, he gonna go get that. You know what I mean? So you gotta have somebody who's a threat. So that's why Nas replays so much. And you gotta play guys like Nazri who can shoot, because you gotta make Wimby respect the guy who he's guarding.
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B
But yeah, you gotta.
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D
Gotta get him out there paint, bro, so you can get some driving lanes. Because if. If when you playing Rudy and he just sitting back, it's hard for Ant man to get in the teeth of the defense IO any of those guys, right? So, yeah, Shannon, I. I think. I think they have to really take a look at, you know, how they can improve from a big man standpoint, going further. I mean. Cause San Antonio and. OkC Bro, they here for the long haul.
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B
Yes.
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E
Hey, I got a question though. Uncle and Joe, think about this, right? What you're saying with Rudy being a liability obviously when playing the spurs. But think about the Wolves and all the other. I mean think about the Wolves and all the other team that they played. No, he doesn't have this issue all the time.
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B
Well, he had this issue because there's only one Yokendy. Let's give him that. So do you normally punishes him? Jokic the three ball wasn't. Wasn't falling. And see, Jokic is not as fleet of foot. Jokic is not as quick off the dribble as Wemby. See, when they can get buy in, Jokic couldn't get by it, right? And because Rudy could bother him with his length, he can't bother. He. First of all, he's guarding the guy that's taller than him. There are not very many guys that Rudy's gonna guard that's gonna be taller than Rudy. So now I've got a guy that's four inches taller than me and can jump, so I can't bother him. I can't put it. He do this to. He do this to Yolk and Yolk can't see he do this his hand. Man, get your hand up my damn mouth. So he, he sees all of that. We saw this in Utah, Joe, you remember in Utah they had the same issue. They couldn't play him against the Clippers late in the ball game because he was a liability. We saw this a lot of times in Minnesota. He was a liability. You can't. It's just hard when one of your best players who you play a premium salary to becomes unplayable and I gotta take him out of the game. It's unfathomable to me that my best pitcher, my best closer, just think Mariano Rivera the best closer. But I can't bring him out tonight. My best hitter, I'm a pitch hit for him because I don't trust him. I don't trust him in the bottom of the 10th or 11th inning. That's crazy. That's what Rudy is. He's one of their best players and I gotta take him off the court. He gave me zero points and three rebounds at seven plus feet tall. That's crazy.
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D
And you put him on a guy who you thought was a non shooter. Because I ain't. No way. Why would you put Rudy on Castle? I'm thinking at the start the game I'm like, yeah, why in the hell would they do that, yeah. And, and he just, he got it going, bro, that first quarter and then it just unraveled for him. It just seemed like Minnesota, it, it, it's so hard for them to come by buckets, Uncle Ocho, you know what I mean? And for San Antonio, it's like hell, they score a wheel, bro, just from ball movement alone. Just move that ball hopping and everybody getting a great shot, you know. Yeah. If it break down. Castle and Fox, Fox, who I love, I thought he played a huge part tonight in them getting that win. Because both of those guys are great in pick and roll. They're great off the dribble, they're great facilitating. And they got an in between game that a lot of guys don't got. Yeah, they can shoot the three, but once they get inside that three point line, even if they don't get all the way to the rim, they got the floaters, the little midis, the little touch shots. They just got too much in their game. And Minnesota just couldn't, they couldn't hang with them, bro.
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E
Nah. And the funny thing about it too, tonight of all games, you know, maybe you have Wimby Efficient. Maybe, Maybe Castle maybe for sale. But Joe and unknown.
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D
Yeah.
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E
Everybody was goddamn efficient tonight. Everybody. Goddamn. Fox had had 21 points.
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B
Cut your zoom off and cut back on. You're so lagged. You're like a four second delay. Yeah. So cut it off and come and come back in.
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D
All that damn smokey head over there.
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B
That's, that's the, and look, you, you, you can't fault his effort. Cause he'd be trying. You. I, I'll never say Rudy wasn't trying because he does he, Absolutely. But he's limited on what he can do, Joe. He.
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D
Yeah.
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B
And I, I, look, I, I'm. And like I said, I think everybody, you know, you remember that Joe, you weren't on here with us, but he had that one game where he had 27 points and 20 rebounds against the Lakers. And everybody say, see, I told you. Rudy, look, that's an anomaly. He was never gonna have it.
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D
Yeah.
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B
Oh, you back? Can you hear me?
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Is it, is timing good?
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B
Hold on. Is it better? It's better. They said, man, you was talking. You still doing the intro? Are you really buying a car online
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D
on Autotrader right now?
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C
Really?
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B
At a playground?
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A
Yeah.
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Really. Look at these listings from dealers.
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B
Wow. Your search can really get that specific.
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C
Really?
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B
And you just put in your info and boom. Cars in your budget.
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C
Mom needs a second, honey.
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A
You can really have it delivered.
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C
Really Or I can pick it up at the dealership. One sec, sweetie. Mommy's buying a car.
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B
Mommy, I think your kid is walking up the slide.
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Kyle.
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D
Again?
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C
Really? Autotrader, buy your car online. Really? We're lost and kickoff's coming up. I don't want to miss the lineup. I'm going to ask that man for directions. Hi there. We're trying to get to the stadium.
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Well, you're going to take a left at the old oak tree at this here road.
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Nah, I'm just kidding.
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A
Let me get my phone out.
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How is there signal out here?
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B
yeah, go ahead, go ahead, finish your thought. But you, you was talking about how, how efficient the spurs were. When you look at Champagne, it was 5 and 10. W was 6 of 11. Go ahead.
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E
No, I was saying as Fox. I mean if there was a game where, where everybody need to be efficient to close out this goddamn series. It was a night. I was saying Fox had 21 points. I think it was 8 for 10. He was 3 for 3 from 3. And hell with everyone else playing well and women. Didn't even have a crazy night tonight, Joe.
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D
He didn't have to.
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E
Collectively, everybody plays so goddamn well. The goddamn Wolves didn't even have a chance.
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D
Yeah, I mean, look, when you think about it, he didn't have to be heroic tonight when you got champion with 185 for 10 from the field. Hey, look, I love Harper coming off the bench. He don't play like no rookie to me, fellas. He plays like a guy who's been in his league three, four, five years. He understands the moment. He's one of those guys who great and poise and patience and precious situations. You know, they trust him with the rock as a rookie, bro. You don't really see that, man. You know what I mean? And he's had big moments, you know, not just in this series, but throughout this whole, this whole playoffs. So I, I enjoy watching him play as well. I just think collectively San Antonio has the team to compete with okc. I'm talking about from top to bottom, you name it. From the guard standpoint all the way to the bigs. Boy, it's gonna be a. It's gonna be some fireworks in this
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B
next season because both teams have about four or five guys that can defend at an elite level on the perimeter.
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D
Yeah.
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B
That is what separates okc. That is what separate because of a sale champagne. You look at Castle, you look at those guys, they can defend. Now Kelton Johnson isn't. He's not the best defender, but he a tri defender and that's all. Sometimes that's what all I need. I just need some other teams that's not in the playoffs that got swept. I need those guys to be tried defenders because they just, they give up too much. Go ahead Ocho, what you want.
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E
I'm glad you just said this. Right. We talk about how, how well OKC defends. We talk about the depth that the bench has and we talk about the. The depth that the God damn that the spurs have. But the one difference maker is they still have wimps.
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B
Yes.
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E
Now as, as well, as well as the goddamn Thunder can defend, who's gonna be the answer to be able to stop Wimpy? What's going to be the difference now?
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B
Well, they try to throw, they're gonna try throwing. They're gonna lose chat and they're gonna switch it up to Hardenstein because they got two seven footers, six eleven, seven foot. They got guys they can throw at him that a lot. That's a lot more athletic. And plus check can shoot the three. Check can bring him out to deep
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E
waters and get him and get him
- [27:23]
B
in space, what you call him. He ain't worried about that. Not the same thing with Hardenstein. He's not worried about Hardenstein. He's work. Hardenstein is a lot. Look is a lot quicker and so he was set to pick and roll. He can dive to the basket, they do a great job, put him in the pick, they throw him the ball and then here come ch from the dunker spot and boom.
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E
Hey. But then the Thunder gonna have the same issue. Shay Loving to get to the midi sh. Shay Loving to come out the dribble and drive to the basket. Hell, Wimy still gonna do what he's done to everybody else and altering goddamn shots.
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D
Well, hey, hey, hey, hold on now. Say a mid range assassin. You know, I agree with you.
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B
They.
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D
They both got. They both got guys who can defend, but they also both teams got guys who are great going off the dribble, great creating space, great scoring the basketball, great penetrating, getting into the teeth of your defense and making plays. I think it's going to be a pretty even game. Now I know the spurs going to come in with a lot of confidence because they beat them four times. They won 41 throughout the season. So they gonna come. They gonna come in with a lot of confidence. And considering the fact that OKC's not gonna have the. The other j.
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B
No, he said he's healthy. Yeah, he said he's healthy.
- [28:39]
D
It's gonna be interesting.
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B
It's gonna be very interesting to see what they do. Cause you know, Mitchell, AJ Mitchell has played so well. Like, ooh, maybe maybe take a game or two. Take another game or two. We're gonna make sure you fully healthy.
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D
I think, I think they gonna continue. I think they're gonna bring A.J. mitchell off the bench and he's still gonna be. He's still gonna continue to get money. I think that's gonna be the difference maker in this series, meaning OKC and San Antonio. It's gonna be the bench place. It's gonna be the bench play.
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B
The question is, I think they're gonna probably start Lou Dort on. On Fox, but he's gonna have to. Man, Fox is so quick, man. That joke, that herky jerky. Yeah, that's eight.
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D
Nah, you think they gonna. I think you think they're gonna start.
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B
Put on him.
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D
They can put him on Castle.
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B
So who go? So I want to know who. So you gonna put. Shit. You gonna put Shay on Fox? Yeah, and he gonna go right around Fox. Man, that joke was so quick, man. I watched that joker today. Oh, no, no, no, no. He.
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D
He cat quick. Hey hey. He gonna.
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B
They.
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D
I think they gonna give each other problems. I think Shay being a little bitch,
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B
you know, he made. Castle's gonna be on. Gonna be on shape him. I think him basel probably champagne. I think those guys though, that, that triplets, those. That trio is going to take. Going to rotate and try to show because all of them are different. But Castle is uber, uber physical. He's quick. And you saw tonight, Fox was Giving Jaden, Jaden McDaniels all he could Handle everything that he wanted.
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D
He nice, bro. He nice. You right?
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E
So listen. So listen, Joe. Out of the. Out of the four times they played during the regular season, the spurs won
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B
what they was 4 and 1 against. The spurs won four. OKC.
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E
Now, that's. Now that's regular season basketball. Now come playoff basketball. Now, who y' all got in the series based on. You know, it's all about matchups. It's all about matchups. Now, the one common denominator that separates both of these teams is goddamn Wemby.
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D
I know, man. OKC got home court advantage. I'm going okc. I picked them to win it. I. I think. I think San Antonio is there. Obviously, you know, they. They looking to win now. You know, even though they're a young team, they got what it takes. Obviously. They showed me a lot throughout this post season, but hell, OKC has showed me just as much, man. You know, the fact that they're still hungry coming off a title. They ate no. In this postseason. I'm sure they want to continue that. It's gonna be hard for San Antonio to go on OKC and get a game. Fellas.
- [31:18]
B
Yeah, I'm just. And what you got? I mean, if. If you. If you the pro. The thing I can see is that I still think San Antonio might be a year away. The turnovers, you cannot turn the ball over against the Thunder. They punish you. They make you pay a premium. You pay double for turnovers in the postseason.
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D
And.
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B
And I just think the thing is, is that Chet and Hardenstein. I can see Chet averaging somewhere between 18 and 22, which they did not get from Rudy Hartenstein. You know, Hardenstein, he gonna give you efficient. He ain't gonna. He ain't gonna miss more than two shots because everything is gonna be a lobby or.
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C
Or.
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B
Or. Or. Or. Or a floater from about 5.
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D
His ass gonna have double figure rebound.
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B
Yes.
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D
He gonna.
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A
He.
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C
He.
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D
He's a hustle. He's a hustle guy who gets a lot of his points off of hustling. Hustling, you know, put backs, things that sort of getting you extra possession, create
- [32:24]
B
second chance points because Wendy Wimby going to challenge it. And so guess what? So when Wimy goes to challenge something, they're saying, okay, whoever. Wim's garden, when he goes to challenge, take your ass to the rim.
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D
Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely right.
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B
I. If I would. I mean, you make me pick. If I had to pick some money, if I had to put some money down, that meant something to it. Hell, if I'm putting money down. It's my money, so it means a lot to me. I would take the Thunder. I think I. I think I. I can see the Thunder in seven. I can see it being home and home series, Joe. I really could.
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D
I know Ocho a rebel. He gonna go San Antonio. I already know me.
- [33:03]
E
I mean, listen, I. I like. I like. I like the Thunder. Obviously, what they've been able to do, even when she was. When she was injured, I mean, they, they. Them young bulls kept the. Kept the ship afloat. But that goddamn Wimby's so special. He's so special. I think he's going to be the common denominator being. I don't think Shed would be able to do anything with him, even though shed is 7ft tall, wouldn't be so dominant, regardless of who you put out there on him. I'm just giving the edge to the spurs slightly.
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D
Okay. All right, Joe.
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B
I'm just looking at these numbers. My start, my starting 4 and 5 gave me 3 points and 10 effing rebounds.
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E
home.
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D
At home. That's just in the closeout game. A closer.
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B
Yeah. Everything I done, batting down the hatches. I don't board it up the house. I'm hunkering down. I ain't leaving. Yeah. You know, when a storm is coming to say you need to leave, I. I'm batting the answers. I ain't going no damn where. Yeah.
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D
Hey, you know what I think? I think Minnesota, I think coming into next year, they probably gonna find a way to kind of give Nas Reed a starting job. Uncle Ocho, I just think he plays well, you know, and. And I think he. I think he played well against Wimby, obviously being able to stretch the floor. And he ain't really look like he was nervous and scared of the moment tonight, you know what I mean? He just came out,
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B
Joe.
- [34:32]
D
Well, you're gonna have to. You're gonna have to change your roster up a little bit. You might have to make a couple trades, you know? I'm saying what if.
- [34:39]
B
If, you know, we still got to give him the pick that we gave for Wimby. I mean, for Rudy. We gave up five first rounders, Joe.
- [34:47]
D
You don't think nobody want Rudy.
- [34:52]
B
Look here, Fat Arber game don't even want Rudy back. You remember Rudy within Fat App? Rudy kept some bull job going. Fat Abba gang don't even want Rudy back.
- [35:03]
D
Just a bad match. It is Rudy, bro.
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B
It is. It is. And that's the problem, that he has any matchup that has A big that's athletic is going to be a problem for him.
- [35:16]
D
Yeah, they can space the floor and shoot. Yeah, that's.
- [35:20]
B
He would have a problem with Embiid because Embiid is so physical. Indeed. Gonna put that big body on him. That's not what Jokic is. Jokic is a finesse player. Rudy is long enough to bother him, especially if he can't get him in foul trouble early. And he can't knock down threes to pull him away from the basket. Because, you see, even when Rudy wasn't blocking the shot, he was making him shoot it short because he was worried. He's putting so much arc on it that the ball was coming up short. But at some point in time, Joe, you got to make a look. I'm looking. I'm like, hold on. Randall gave me three. Randall. Randall been coming up real small in big moments, Joe. He's been coming up real small.
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D
I know. And they needed him tonight.
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B
You got Minnesota. Y' all thought this was gonna be a better answer than. Than Cat. That's the problem that you're running into. And they seeing what Cat doing over there. Cat done had two postseason triple doubles. I'm gonna keep my Masha. They ain't got none of my day, none of my business. I don't even know why I brought it up.
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D
Hey, hey, hey. But Minnesota was hampered with injuries, so I'm gonna give him a little pass in this series. I thought Ant man kind of got a little better, you know, as a series went along. He didn't play great tonight, but, hell, I thought at least. At least his intensity was there, understanding the moment, you know, he was aggressive. He was trying to get to the cup. But San Antonio, too much, bro. They coming at you at two with too many waves, too many guys who can really shoot the basketball defend at a high level. And once they bust that thing open, it's hard. It was hard for Minnesota to keep coming back and being at home. I think. I think that's the most impressive thing about San Antonio, bro. The way they played on the road, the way they came in there and
- [37:20]
E
closed that thing out, you know, it wasn't. One of the most important thing, too is. Is having that advantage, being able to play at home, helping, allowing your crowd to get into it to make things easy for you offensively and defensively. The spurs didn't allow the crowd to get into it at all.
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D
They didn't, bro.
- [37:37]
E
At no. At no damn point. They really made it a home game, even though they were playing away when
- [37:42]
B
you think about this trade, Joe, Let me tell you what trade doesn't make sense to me because you got a guy in Ant man that wants to attack, he can shoot, can get to the mid. He got a few three level scores. But Julius Randall, Julius Randall's not a better three point shot. A better. A three point guy. Cat can pull you big cool pull now, see, Cat can pull Wimby away from the basket.
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D
Yeah.
- [38:07]
B
Now if you take Rudy out, you bring Cat in and Cassie in. Now Rudy's got to go out there because Cat can knock the three down.
- [38:15]
D
Yeah.
- [38:18]
B
Yeah. He'll turn his back on Rudy. Go ahead, shoot. I dare you. He up there boxing free throw line rude at the three point line. He ain't worried about Rudy. That damn shot. And he knows how many times you see Rudy dive to the basket and dunk. Rudy gonna get put back. Dunk. He'll get a lob. Dunk. But I'm not throwing with them hands.
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D
Yeah.
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B
Tall. He awkward, so he ain't. I ain't worried about him bending down and getting the ball. Oh, Joe.
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D
Joe, right. I ain't worried about none of that. Right.
- [38:46]
B
He gonna kick it with a size 20, kick that thing dead in the front row, pop. So I'm not worried about that. They're gonna have to because Ocho, you said had. All he has to deal with is Wimby. The problem is, is that OKC and the spurs, for the next three to five years, they're going to run to west unless something unforeseen happened. So even he's having his way with Jokic and some of these other bigs, he still got to go through them.
- [39:16]
D
Yeah. Yeah.
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B
Even if you're going through purgatory, in order to get to the championships, you got to go through hell, which is San Antonio and okc.
- [39:26]
E
And this, this, this is the, this is the bad thing, though, because if you, if you get rid of Rudy, who's the answer? There's still no answer that you can go and get that can make a difference against Wimy or the goddamn Thunder.
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B
Well, I. I think the thing is, is that I got to get product. I got to get points from somewhere. I got nothing from. I got nothing from. I got nothing from Drew Randall and I got nothing from Rudy. So that puts so much pressure on Ant that he feel. And had 24 points, but it took him 26 shots. I'll give him that all day long.
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E
And think about this. If you do get a big, right, Uncle Joe?
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B
Yeah.
- [40:02]
E
Would you get a big. That's all. You know, our office is big. That can get you points. Hell, that could shoot the three, trade it for. Hey, but then you know what the problem gonna be? He gonna be a liability on defense because you're not gonna get it. Okay.
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D
What a thing that I'm thinking is if. If I can keep Wimby honest, you know, versus him not even paying attention to Rudy. Right. Damn. I mean, I think that's a pretty good job. Meaning if I could have a threat out there that he has to guard Ocho, instead of just sitting kind of just sitting close to the paint, not guarding this man who out at the three, man. You. You. You have a better chance versus going in there challenging him every time, bro. Like, it's just. He just too much. It's too much, man. So I'm sure Minnesota will get to the drawing board this summer. They gonna have to come up with something. I know they got some mean contracts over there, but, boy, they got to figure it out.
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B
Yeah. The Wolves, the last five postseasons, lost in the first round, lost in the first round, lost in the conference finals, lost in the conference finals, lost in this, the second round. And I think. I think the thing is for. Is that with Wimby, you can't outskill him. You got to get somebody that's physical, that's. That's willing to bang with him because his skill level is. I mean, they. First of all, there's a whole lot of fives. I mean, you look at Jokic, if you say. If you look at Hardenstein, you look at. You want to say Cats of five, There are not a whole lot of them that has a skill like Wimby that can be able to score. The only big. The only five that really can score is Embiid and yic.
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D
Yeah, those are the really only ones.
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B
That's really the only ones. That.
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E
That's why that they. That's why I said there is no answer. So in the West, Wimy's going to continue to dominate because there's really nobody you can go and get that can match him offensively at the 5.
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B
We know that, but we got to get some scoring.
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D
That.
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B
That's the thing.
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D
That's the thing.
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B
Ocho, he only gave us 19, but his counterpart gave us nothing. So he beat us 19. Nothing. What if he gave us nine? Get off to a great start. Jude didn't do any better. He gave us three. Remember the last game? Remember the last game? How many points did you have to have the last game? He didn't have that Many last game.
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D
Hey, and when you think about it, Wimby just got too many pretty good damn players next to him, Meaning guys who really know and understand, okay, boom, we gonna feed big fella. We gonna play through big fella. But, boy, when they come out of them getting to it.
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B
Yeah.
- [42:45]
D
You know, they got guys who really understand their role in Fox, Castle, Vassell,
- [42:51]
E
Harper.
- [42:53]
D
They championing. Like, I'm talking about guys who play key. Like, look, they'll have games to where some of these guys won't be as productive offensively, but then they'll have games like tonight to where collectively as a team, everybody don't beat you. You know what I mean? Ain't really. Yeah, Castle was, you know, he was terrific tonight, but everybody was super solid around the board. And I just think it's hard to beat a team, bro, who has guys like this. And the only team I could think who was like this is okc.
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B
But Joe, think about this. You know, the last game. Last game, late game, five. Guess how many points Rudy had. Four.
- [43:27]
D
What he had.
- [43:28]
B
So in two games, he's averaging two points a game. Game five, Drew Randall has 17. So in two games, he'S averaging 10 points a game. How many points did he take? Because it took him like 14 shots to get those 17 points, if I'm not mistaken. I think he was five or 14 from the floor. Six or 17. My bad. I was off couple. Oh, four from three. What was even? Knight from three or two. One of eight from the floor, O of two from three. I. And see, and Ant Man's like, hell, I can get funky like that if the. Yeah, if I know my guys, I can count on all Rudy. If. If Rudy could give me a consistent joke. If he can give me a consistent 10 to 12, he ain't gonna be
- [44:13]
D
able to do that. That's asking a lot. That's asking a lot.
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E
That's not. That's not what he is, Joe. That's what y' all told me when I said, maybe he can have one of those. One of those games.
- [44:24]
B
But Rudy, you. You love that. When Rudy was giving it to the Lakers bad, rudy had a 20, 20 game. I said, he'll never have another one of those in his life.
- [44:32]
E
Hey, you was right. He's a defensive player. How many times he won that defensive award on four times.
- [44:37]
D
Well, look, the Lakers couldn't match up with him. He was just too damn big. The Lakers ain't had no answer for him.
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B
You know, you got LeBron and Ru trying to guard the Man.
- [44:46]
D
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This here. This here is different, bro. This, this one. The spurs are a little different.
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B
I'm.
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D
Hey, boy. Look, y' all better get your popcorn ready.
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B
This going to be a great series. Have they decided when it starts? Monday or Tuesday. Trying to see the Western Conference final starts Monday. What is it on Prime? Are you really buying a car online
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D
on Autotrader right now?
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C
Really? I can get super specific with dealer listings and see cars based on my budget. You can really have it delivered or pick it up.
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B
I think kid is walking up the stairs. Slide.
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C
Really? Auto trader, Buy your car online? Really? We're lost and kickoff's coming up. I don't want to miss the lineup. I'm going to ask that man for directions. Hi there. We're trying to get to the stadium.
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A
Well, you're going to take a left at the old oak tree at this
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B
here road N. I'm just kidding.
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A
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C
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NBC okay NBC all right. NBA Draft Prospects Measurement Joe AJ Debonza 6, 8 1/2 217 with a 7 1/2 foot wingspan. Aaron Peterson He's 6, 4 1/2, 199 pounds a 691 3/4 wingspan. Darius Acuff 6 foot 2, 186 pounds a 6 foot 7 wingspan. Unofficial Max Burke For AJ Debonza 42 inches, the highest mark request recorded so far this week. Let's take a look at some of the video.
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E
What about Wilson?
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D
Oh, he did good. I watched it.
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B
I wish they let NFL players run and Jump like that, I guarantee you see some 50s take a step. Yeah, because you. Oh, Joe, with them guys doing. They doing 45 and 46. They just standing. Just standing and going up.
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D
Yeah, I know. No, no, no. Hey, look, I give y' all football cash credit, bro. I'm talking about that's a gladiator sport and them dudes training you dudes train like gladiator. Listen, man, I'm telling y', all, when I was in college, bro, I used to hang out with a lot of football guys. Because I was Prop 48, I wasn't eligible. So I hooped in the hype. I hooped in the hyper center with a bunch of football and track guys. Yeah, I'm talking about all over the realm, all over the rim. You hear me? All over the rim, bro. So I know.
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E
Hey, Joe, the fact that you got experience, you know, playing, playing dudes, you know, when you was Prop 48 and still want to play me is beyond me. I don't understand. I'm just saying it's beyond me.
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B
You understand? What's going on in the thinking, Ocho?
- [50:54]
E
I. I don't know. I don't know. Hey, Ojo, I don't think he understands.
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D
Ocho. I didn't slay many dragons, homeboy.
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E
Hey, one thing about it, boy. I ain't a dragon.
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D
I done slay many dragons on ain't no dragon. Yeah, you're talking all that. You spitting fire out of. Slay many dragons, partner. All right, don't worry. I got something for you. I got something for you.
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C
See?
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D
Hey, you see how they putting that elbow and wimby forehead and his back and all that?
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E
Yeah.
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B
Hey.
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D
Oh, you gonna elbow me, all that? Oh, it's gonna be physical, Ojo. It's gonna be me and you, partner.
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E
It's gonna be real. Yeah, Joe, I play. I play physical. That's. I'm on that. I'm on that type of time.
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D
All right, I'm glad you're on that type of time. So please hit my.
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B
I'm ready.
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D
Yeah.
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B
Oh, wait.
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E
Oh, so you healthy?
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D
Yeah.
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E
You sure?
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D
Yeah. Hey, hey, I know you got your wide receiver camp going, all that.
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B
Keep doing your thing, man. I'm catching.
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D
I'mma catch you. I'mma catch you.
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E
Hey, I might see about that this weekend, man.
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D
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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E
You think? Sweet, right?
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D
It's cotton candy.
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B
So the Bonds is six, eight and a half. Darian Peterson is six, four and a half. Darius Acuff is six, two.
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D
Oh, man, listen, them boys getting to it. They were showing the dudes doing the shooting drill, like, you know, they may shoot 25 threes. I watched Acuff shoot the blood out. I think he went, like, 18 for, like, 24. Something like at 25. I watched Peterson shoot the blood out of it. You know, obviously, you ain't got no defense, but it's standing there, catch and shoot, and then you move to another spot. Yeah. So, you know, you can kind of see what you're working with. Man, I think the NBA gonna be in great hands, man. It's gonna be a nice crop of young dudes coming in this year.
- [52:41]
B
Fellas, you gotta. I mean, Chad, I just wish you guys could go to an NBA game and watch these guys warm up, because in the second. Cause the first half, the Lakers were in front of us shooting at that goal.
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D
Yeah.
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B
And so the second half, obviously, they switch. Lakers go down to the far end. The thunder down here.
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D
Yeah.
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B
I watched Chad make 17 straight threes.
- [53:06]
D
Yeah.
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B
The one. The one that he missed, somebody. He shot the ball, and somebody knocked it out.
- [53:12]
D
Yeah.
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B
And then he hit another five straight.
- [53:16]
E
Yeah, that boy shooting like, if you
- [53:18]
B
just watch these guys. And I'm like, you got to be kidding me.
- [53:23]
E
Crazy.
- [53:24]
B
Hey.
- [53:24]
D
Ballistic.
- [53:25]
B
And the motion's the same. Whoop.
- [53:27]
D
Yeah.
- [53:27]
B
Whoo.
- [53:29]
D
Whoo.
- [53:31]
B
Whoo. I mean, nothing. Nothing changes. The motion is identical. It's almost like you replaying it. You hit replay, like, damn, he did that again. Damn, he did that again. But it's not replay. It's the same shooting motion. Hey, I was like, God dang, what
- [53:57]
D
we talk about muscle memory, bro. Hey, if that. If that. That's your job. All you do every day, you wake your ass up, you come in here, you get these jump shots up, you know, until they. Until you can burn that shoulder up. I'm talking about till you really feel it. Until it's just second nature, you know what I mean? So now, you know, he's been doing it for so long as a professional. That's his only job. So. Yeah, you think, damn, how he make all these shots in a row, man? Practice his ass off every day to do this, bro. So when I do hit the big stage and the lights come on, and you smell that popcorn popping when you walk in the arena. You know what I'm talking about, Ocho? And you know it's time. Let me lock in real quick muscle memory. This left hand. Just a guy hand, Ocho. It just barely touching the ball.
- [54:42]
E
That's it, huh?
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D
That's it.
- [54:44]
B
Hey, hey, Joe. But that left hand, boy. See, when I was shooting that thing in high school. I ain't even need that left. I was flipping them off with the
- [54:50]
E
lift
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B
and that what I was doing with the left. Joe, I don't need the left to touch. Don't even touch it. I just flipping them off.
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D
What's wrong with you, man?
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B
You know what? I dropped that 52 on the. Joe. Yeah, I dropped 52 and three quarters. Damn, you.
- [55:07]
D
Well, from all levels. Threes, Twos.
- [55:09]
B
Hey, Joe. No, Joe, Joe, you gotta realize I came out before the three point. The three point came in after I left graduating.
- [55:15]
D
Hold on, you ain't had a three point in high school.
- [55:17]
B
I ain't had no threes. The dog two.
- [55:19]
E
Hey, hey, Joe, now that. That. That give you a better understanding on how sorry the people was? He was. Hey, hey, hey, Joe. 52 points and three quarters.
- [55:34]
D
Come on, Joe, what you trying to say? Who are you playing against? Ojo shoot some kids.
- [55:45]
B
Hey, Derek Miller went to Kentucky. I dropped 25 on him. Give me that.
- [55:54]
E
Let me. Hey, let me see your shot again.
- [55:58]
B
Yeah, like that. Now, hey, hey. Jump. See, I. It wasn't no set shot, Joe. Ocho, I used to jump. I used to be like 2, 3ft off the ground when I'm shooting that thing. Ain't no blocking my jumper.
- [56:08]
D
Hey, you used to be eating that glass, too, rebounding.
- [56:11]
B
Oh, I. You know, sometimes, Joe, I pull a cool 3119, something like that. Oh, man, 3119. Oh, yeah.
- [56:19]
D
You eating glass, boy?
- [56:21]
B
Yeah, yeah, Joe, he was a young
- [56:23]
D
horse back then, wasn't you?
- [56:25]
E
Hey, Joe, you buying that All Area.
- [56:26]
B
The All Area team. Go look it up. Guess who on there? Me and old Purvis Ellison. Y' all ever heard of him? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. Big, pervasive. Oh, yeah. Oh, I know. Look, I done got all big and muscular, top and top heavy now. Yeah, but your boy used to be silky with that thing. Now, that used to be silky with it.
- [56:49]
E
I ain't buying it.
- [56:50]
B
Hey, I need to silky with it, Joe.
- [56:52]
E
I need to see footage.
- [56:54]
D
I. I can count. I can kind of believe.
- [56:55]
B
Oh, you. You didn't believe I scored 52. But it's in the Georgia athletics. They said it. 52 points.
- [57:03]
E
I mean, y' all ain't playing nobody. You ain't got no competition over there. What you're playing. What's that two way?
- [57:09]
B
I was a single A. Oh, yeah.
- [57:11]
E
Single A. Yeah. Yeah.
- [57:13]
B
But if you go back and look. Go back and look. Go back and look at the top players. Yeah, Herschel Walker, Singly. Garrison Hurst. Singly. George Rogers. Single A. Shannon and Sterling Sharp. Single A. Champ Bailey. Single A. All those guys. Top 10 players in Georgia high school football history.
- [57:35]
E
We talk about basketball.
- [57:38]
B
Oh, y' all would like that. Three time state champ.
- [57:42]
D
Damn.
- [57:42]
B
In the triple jump, the best performance. The best triple jumper in the state of Georgia from Class 8. We have 53 students graduate. 350 students in the whole half classical. The best triple jumper in the state of Georgia came from a class A high school.
- [57:58]
E
That was you.
- [58:01]
B
Best performance trophy. High point winner. Most points accumulated at the state track meet in Class 8. I got that trophy on my grandma Mantle.
- [58:10]
D
Yeah.
- [58:10]
B
Best performance trophy my senior year. I got that trophy on my grandma mantle.
- [58:15]
E
Show me. Show me how you triple jump real quick. Let me see.
- [58:19]
B
That's what got my knees messed up.
- [58:20]
D
Hey, hey, you ain't passing them genetics down to your kids. None of your kids play sports.
- [58:25]
B
My kids ain't want to play no sports, Joe. You gotta realize, my kid. When I was playing, my kids knew what their daddy did. They knew that thing. But if your daddy would have caught that pass, my son said, daddy later for that. My daddy said, but I ain't trying
- [58:40]
D
to hear all that.
- [58:43]
B
Hey, hey, look, everybody ain't wild. Like. Like. People always compare me to my brother because I'm three years younger. Yeah, so he's a senior. I'm a freshman. I'm my brother's backup man. I get in the game. Oh, JoJo, them joker will block her down for me. Hey, that joker, he done came out of the game. He got a buck 50 on like 15 carries. They stopping me in the backfield. What the hell? I've been bad. Later for y'. All. Later for y'. All. Nah, but me, boy, my sister used to get so mad. My sister say, shannon, you need to stop this. I said, stop what? Why you want to be like Spanky so much? You know we call my brother Spanky?
- [59:29]
D
Yeah.
- [59:29]
B
Nobody call him his real name here. I don't know. I. I don't think anybody's ever. I've never heard somebody in my family call him his real name. Everybody call his Real Spanky. Been spanking since he was a little boy, and he was like, my brother. Whatever my brother got, I got my brother. I don't know if y' all got. Y' all don't remember Bobby Dan Rich. Bobby Danridge. He won a championship in Milwaukee, but he also won a. A championship in. With the Bullets. Yeah, his nickname was Mr. Clutch. My brother got a shirt with Mr. Clutch Go. I went and got me one with Mr. Clutch on it.
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D
Yeah.
- [60:03]
B
Everything. Everything my brother did, I did.
- [60:06]
D
Yeah.
- [60:07]
B
My sister said, shannon, you need to be your own man. But what she didn't realize, and she just. I used to get so upset. That's who I wanted to be. I ain't idolized nobody else. The person that I want to be, I saw him every single day. That was it. That's what I wanted to be. So when people compared me like some people shrink, I embraced it. Oh, y' all don't think I'll be good? Oh, y' all don't think I'll be good? Boy, you ain't gonna be like your brother. Oh, boy, you ain't gonna be like your brother. I'm telling you, boy, your brother cold.
- [60:38]
D
Yeah.
- [60:38]
B
Hey, hey, hey, hey. Cause they all. All his friends call him Sterling. Only people in the family call him Spanking Sterling. Your little brother. Man, I'm telling. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Sterile. Your brother, your brother. Now, I couldn't run fast like he could. Cause my brother ran like 10, 40, 800 meters.
- [60:59]
E
Oh, that's moving.
- [61:00]
B
Boy, he run like 20. Like 21, 21, 2, 21 3, 200. Yo, he could run. Now, I couldn't run like that. Couldn't run like that. But. But I had to keep that thing. Take that with you.
- [61:20]
E
Hey, Joe, he ain't got. He ain't got no support on the ball. He got his hand. He's shooting like this.
- [61:24]
B
Didn't I just tell you, Joe, what I tell him, I do, that's to flip people off. Take that. That's what I'm doing. Oh, Joker at Savannah State, they wanted me to play on the basketball team. They have nobody on the basketball team that could out jump me. They have nobody on the basketball team. Because guess what? When them guys graduated and they came played in ear of the mural, I cooked them all.
- [61:46]
D
Oh, yeah. Hey, in the mule, that's. That's the best part when you're in college, boy.
- [61:50]
B
Cook them all in the mirror. Go to Savannah State to ask who got the most. The most points in the intramural game. Joe, drop 48 in the intramural game. 48.
- [62:00]
E
Oh, my goodness. Come on.
- [62:03]
B
Ask him who got the championship game record in intermules. Shannon Sharp, the dude before me. He. They team lost. He dropped 40. I come back behind him. I dropped 41 with six minutes and left it slot down. Cause we was up 28. I don't want to Go no more. I could have got 50, but I thought that. I thought that would have been unbecoming of me. I'm just rubbing it in. I ain't that type of guy.
- [62:25]
E
Yeah, they definitely Joe Ajo.
- [62:28]
D
You can tell they you ain't had intermodals where you was at, Ojo.
- [62:32]
B
Ojo can't play no damn basketball, okay?
- [62:36]
E
Hey, Joe, I do everything, Joe. I do everything. I ain't really. I ain't. I play. I ain't really played no basketball, though. I can hoop, though. I'm whoop your ass.
- [62:45]
B
Anybody that went to Savannah State from 1986 to 1990, ask them what the team to beat. The Juice Crew All Stars featuring oh, my goodness. Featuring oh, my goodness.
- [63:00]
E
Who was oh, my goodness?
- [63:03]
B
Stop playing on, Joe. I'm too big of a cat to be played with like a kid.
- [63:06]
E
Hold on. Time out. Who is oh, my goodness?
- [63:10]
B
You talking to him? Because every time. Every time I get something, they talk about, oh, my goodness. Y' all better stop playing. The Juice Crew All Stars featuring oh, my Goodness.
- [63:23]
D
Oh, my goodness.
- [63:24]
E
Okay, I'm gonna steal that.
- [63:27]
B
Yeah, he told me he fit to steal that.
- [63:31]
E
I like that.
- [63:34]
B
I' ma see if I got that. I'm gonna see if I can find it. But I got a trophy. I got robbed at MVP several years. I should have won the MVP for, like, three years.
- [63:45]
D
Hey, what's being amused?
- [63:47]
B
I like that, Ocho. For real, though. For real, though. I keep telling you, Ocho, I was a better basketball player in high school than I was football. The only reason I played football, because my brother played. That's the only reason I was like that.
- [64:03]
E
Listen, I'm a need visual reference of all these wild accusations that you said you've done. Now, I don't know. I got a VCR if you got some VHS tape. I need something, y'.
- [64:18]
D
All.
- [64:18]
B
I was like that. Y' all pull that, Joe. I was like that. I would like that, Joe. Hey, hey, hey, hey.
- [64:23]
D
What my. What my Louis Vuitton ball at, man.
- [64:27]
B
Oh, you ain't gonna get this joke. You're not gonna beat me.
- [64:30]
D
I see. I know you talking about. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hey, you look like. Hey, you look like.
- [64:37]
B
Look at the rotation, Joe. Look at the rotation,
- [64:43]
E
man. That man can't hoop, man.
- [64:48]
B
Hey, Joe, you ain't never felt the kind of power. This 255. This 255 solid.
- [64:53]
D
Hey, I'm just making sure you keeping it clean for me.
- [64:55]
B
You.
- [64:56]
D
You taking care for me over there?
- [64:57]
B
Oh, yeah, Joe.
- [64:58]
D
Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna shoot your eyes out for that. Don't worry about that.
- [65:03]
B
What? Who saying that? Never gonna get it. Never gonna get it. Never gonna get it.
- [65:07]
E
Woo.
- [65:08]
B
Woo. Woo.
- [65:11]
D
Yeah. Hey, put down a mean demonstration on you and Ocho ass. Yeah.
- [65:18]
B
Ooh. I can't let you get the Louis Vuitton ball. Damn, baby, I like 200 of these.
- [65:23]
D
I'm gonna still have it on Nightcap when we own.
- [65:25]
B
Don't worry about it.
- [65:26]
D
It's still gonna.
- [65:28]
B
Yeah. Oh, it's just gonna be at your location. Yeah, I'm gonna put a little hook
- [65:33]
D
up there so I can sit right up in the. I got. I got some stuff I'm doing, man. Yeah, look.
- [65:37]
B
And I got. What you call it. And I got a little case that came on.
- [65:40]
D
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [65:44]
E
Joe, you in trouble, bro. You in trouble.
- [65:49]
D
Mean demonstration on you, boy.
- [65:51]
E
Hey, boy, you don't. You don't. You don't. Bit off more than you could chew over here, boy.
- [65:54]
D
Hopefully. I'm telling you now, I already know what's going on, man.
- [65:58]
E
I'm telling you what's gonna happen is when I'm in front of you, whether it's on, off of the defense, and you'd be like, God damn, this old quick as hell. You're gonna be like, what the hell I done got myself into? I'm telling you now, you'll see.
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B
But I'm telling you, Joe, at your intermural, they tell you I shot the light. Hey, I dropped 48. Yeah, 48 record had a bunch. I mean, 30 was nothing. But that championship game, I was like, ain't no way. Ain't no way I'm gonna let no common student have the record. Yeah, an athlete's supposed to have that record in intramural.
- [66:33]
D
Yeah.
- [66:33]
B
If a basketball player would have got it. Or another basketball, a baseball, or a track athlete. Okay, I'm cool with that. Ain't no common student, Finn to get to have no intramural. And all the athletes, baseball, basketball, basketball players that don't play no more. Bro, please.
- [66:50]
D
Hey, been here.
- [66:52]
B
I told him, hey, man, you can't play no basketball. I'm telling you, man, you can't play no basketball.
- [66:58]
D
Hey, I still be giving these boys hell around here. You go to the Lifetime over here in Sandy Springs, you're gonna see ice.
- [67:04]
B
You go to that one up there by the perimeter. Right outside the perimeter, we got.
- [67:07]
D
We got banners and everything up there, unc, from winning championships in there, man, I'm housing cats around here.
- [67:13]
B
You hear me? I Used to see them guys. That's why I used to go to.
- [67:16]
D
I go to the. It's some cats who can play too. I'm talking about some of these cats straight out of college and did four years. They got nice teams.
- [67:25]
B
Okay.
- [67:25]
D
It'd be some good runs up there. It'd be some good runs. Hey, Ocho, I seen you. I seen you with your ride receiver crew. I route your ass up. Don't do that. Route your ass up. I see how you out there. I said, oh, yeah. That boy, ain't no way in hell he could guard me.
- [67:39]
E
Joe, Joe, don't do that.
- [67:42]
D
I run that trio boy up first off. All you got. I'll mouse you. That's nothing. Damn.
- [67:48]
B
Damn, Ocho.
- [67:50]
E
Hey, Joe.
- [67:51]
D
Yeah.
- [67:52]
B
Look, look, look.
- [67:52]
D
Check him out, Unc. Oh, no. You think he gonna.
- [67:55]
B
Oh, what?
- [67:57]
E
Hey, play over, boy. Hey, Strap, watch this. Hey, Unc, I'm too quick.
- [68:05]
D
Oh, no. Where you going?
- [68:06]
E
Where you going? Give me that.
- [68:09]
B
You picked him up too.
- [68:11]
E
Hey, Joe, this what I.
- [68:13]
D
Hey, I see.
- [68:14]
E
I'm strapping.
- [68:15]
D
Hey, you know. See them boys? Still wet behind the ears.
- [68:20]
B
They ain't.
- [68:21]
D
You know, he know too much.
- [68:22]
B
He have too much room. Ocho just faded with him. He gotta put it. He gotta stack, Ocho.
- [68:26]
D
Yeah.
- [68:26]
E
Look, you can't stack me.
- [68:28]
B
Look, look, look, look.
- [68:30]
D
Check him out. Check him out.
- [68:33]
E
Nothing.
- [68:35]
B
Nothing.
- [68:37]
E
I'm strapping them boys, and we ain't talking about anybody. Georgia, lsu, Texas, Florida, yeah, Ohio State, we got. We got some of the best receivers out there out there. Man, the boys came.
- [68:52]
B
Came to get some work, and you put. You put the lock on them.
- [68:59]
D
Hey, that's all right, Ocho.
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B
That's.
- [69:01]
E
Hey, hey, hey. All jokes aside, though, we got some good work today. We got some really, really good work today.
- [69:06]
B
Look like y' all got some.
- [69:07]
E
Yeah, some good work. So we back at it again at 10 in the morning. You know, you'll be doing two days. And it was. We. We had to do the wide receiver workshop a little earlier this year because June and July, obviously, we got the World Cup.
- [69:19]
D
Yeah.
- [69:19]
E
So last year, I did the. The wide receiver workshop in June right before it's time for the players to go to camp. But I gotta move it up this year. And now most of the receivers, they had OTAs.
- [69:31]
B
Yep.
- [69:31]
E
You know, they. They got them incentives and they got a sweet spot. Yeah. So next year we'll be back. I have. I have. I had. Deontay. Johnson was there.
- [69:40]
B
You just got to find that sweet fight. This is an anomaly year, Ocho, because of the World Cup.
- [69:44]
E
Yeah, yeah.
- [69:44]
B
You got an anomaly year, but I still think June is the best time for you to have it.
- [69:48]
D
Yeah, yeah.
- [69:49]
B
Once they get done with their, their mini camp. Because their last training mini camp right before they get their six week break, before they come back for training camp. I still believe the best time for you to have it is in June.
- [70:00]
E
Yeah. So I had about four, five NFL receivers and I had about maybe 11. College, college, college kids. I'm talking about finna be first rounders.
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D
That's what's up, bro.
- [70:10]
E
We got young bull from Ohio State, last name Jeremiah. No, not Jeremiah. Jeremiah. He got a little injury right now. Ennis.
- [70:18]
B
Oh, okay, okay.
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E
Hey, he nice.
- [70:21]
B
Okay.
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E
He nice. He nice. He nice. All them boys nice, man. So I'm excited. I can't wait. I can't wait tomorrow.
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