Best of NFL News Part 1: Flacco TRADED to Bengals + Fans CALL OUT Chris Jones

Summary

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Club Shay Shay – Best of NFL News Part 1: Flacco TRADED to Bengals + Fans CALL OUT Chris Jones

Date: October 11, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe (with "Uncle" and "Ocho" as primary commentators)

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Overview

This lively episode centers on some of the NFL’s most buzzworthy mid-season stories: Joe Flacco’s rare intra-division trade from the Browns to the Bengals, the Bengals’ crisis at quarterback, the state of their offensive line, ongoing quarterback controversies across the league, fan impatience with underperformers, and Chiefs star Chris Jones being called out for his effort (or lack thereof) during a pivotal play.

Shannon Sharpe and his co-hosts dissect the impact of these changes with typical candor, humor, and deep insider insight, touching on leadership, team culture, and the pressures athletes face in today's hyper-connected world.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Joe Flacco Traded to Bengals

Segment: [04:49–08:41]

• The Bengals acquire Flacco and a 2026 6th-round pick from Cleveland for a 2026 5th-round pick—a rare intra-division QB move ("only the third time this century").
  • Uncle: “Only once, twice as it happened… Patriots traded Drew Bledsoe to the Bills. Eagles traded Donovan McNabb to Washington. This [Flacco trade] is only the third time I can think of it going down.” ([04:49])
• Jake Browning’s Demotion: Once seen as a reliable bridge, Browning “wasn’t being able to hold up to it,” failing to keep the team afloat in Joe Burrow’s absence (the standard for NFL backup QBs).
  • Uncle: “That didn’t happen. So the Bengals were like, 'we've got a lot invested in Chase, Higgins... let’s try to maximize the season.'” ([04:13–04:50])
• The co-hosts stress that going from a starter to backup is always a gut-punch, but Browning’s responsibility as the temporary “face of the franchise” wasn't fulfilled.
  • Uncle: “When you’re in front of the camera as the leader of that offense, you say, ‘That’s on me. I didn’t play well enough.’” ([05:55])
  • Ocho: “At quarterback… you have to take onus. You have to take all that on your shoulders because you are the quarterback.” ([06:31])
  • Ocho: “If Jake Browning kept the job after the last two games, it would have been malpractice by the coaches. Zach Taylor might be on the hot seat.” ([06:31])
• Flacco’s Fit: Praised for his veteran presence and arm strength, but concerns about his lack of mobility and the O-line’s ability to protect him.
  • Ocho: “We might sink a little bit, but we don’t want to just go all the way goddamn under… We have a gunslinger at QB that has a hell of an arm. But he’s not mobile.” ([07:34–08:12])
  • Ocho, to offensive line: “I beg of you, I implore you to raise your level of play for us offensively to have any success moving forward.” ([08:22])

2. Leadership & Taking Blame Under Pressure

Segment: [09:28–14:00]

• Sharpe and Ocho emphasize the importance of quarterbacks taking accountability, likening the right mentality to icons like Jalen Hurts, Brady, and Manning.
  • Uncle: “Leaders say, ‘It’s on me. I need to play better and I will.’” ([09:47])
• The metaphor of a self-driving car is used for Jake Browning—a backup’s job is just to “get the car around the track and don’t crash.” ([10:39–14:00])
  • Uncle: “Expectations are the number one killer of dreams and hopes and aspirations.” ([11:41])
  • Memorable Bar:
    • Ocho: “I don’t need you to win the race. I just need you to get the car around the track.” ([13:54])
• The massive investment in the Bengals' roster raises the pressure and scrutiny when replacing Burrow.

3. Realities of NFL Quarterback Options

Segment: [19:43–23:24]

• Finding decent backup QBs is “not like picking apples off a tree.” Flacco’s acquisition is a move born of desperation, not necessarily logic.
  • Ocho: “It’s not like quarterbacks are like goddamn apple trees. That is one of the reasons why it’s so difficult to…find a transcending generational talent like Burrow. You can’t replace it.” ([19:59–20:21])
  • Uncle: “This how bad Jake Browning is: his QBR is actually higher than Joe Flacco. But when you’re desperate, a desperate person will do a desperate thing.” ([21:14])

4. Flacco’s Limitations and Bengals O-line Issues

Segment: [23:24–27:57]

• Flacco will heavily depend on pass protection. If the O-line can’t provide even “a wall for two seconds,” there’ll be trouble.
  • Ocho: “Give me two [seconds]. If you can give me two, we can do something with one in five.” ([22:27])
  • Both agree Flacco’s lack of mobility starkly contrasts with even Burrow’s limited, but effective, pocket movement.
  • The Bengals will likely need to invest high draft capital in the offensive line if current play persists.
    • Uncle: “You guys need an offensive line bad, O. Joe.” ([26:49])
    • Ocho: “I’m just hoping those young bulls…that have gotten paid, can show up and pay dividends, you know, and play like the money they received.” ([26:57])

5. Browns QB Circus: Stefanski’s Non-Commitment

Segment: [31:59–34:51]

• Browns coach Kevin Stefanski won’t name his backup QB post-Flacco trade, creating drama over Shador Sanders, Bailey Zappe, and Dylan Gabriel.
  • Ocho: “Stefanski’s making the Browns organization basically Jerry Springer…Just announce the goddamn quarterback!” ([32:40])
• The hosts mock the media’s fixation with Shador Sanders, suggesting race and star power as factors.
  • Uncle: “Why do you continuously ask a backup that’s not playing? Why you continuously asking them questions? What do you hope to get from him?” ([37:15])

6. Breakdown of Jaguars-Browns Trade

Segment: [38:42–39:45]

• Jaguars receive CB Greg Newsom and a 2026 6th-round pick; Browns get CB Tyson Campbell and a 2026 7th.
  • Ocho: “Jags going for it. They pushing all their chips to the front because they really believe…with the way Trevor Lawrence is playing.” ([39:12–39:45])

7. Chris Jones Criticized For On-Field Effort

Segment: [46:48–48:33]

• Chiefs’ Chris Jones admitted to a costly lapse in effort, which directly contributed to a Jaguars win. Fans and analysts call out even stars for such mistakes.
  • Jones (as quoted by the hosts): “I thought it was over. I thought we had him down, so I kind of stopped and was about to celebrate. Then I realized he wasn’t down.” ([46:48])
  • Uncle: “It’s just not a good look. He knows that…Can’t have that on your resume.” ([47:40–48:25])
  • Ocho: “You can’t look like you did on that play…There’s a microscope on you being who you are…you are considered widely as the best defensive tackle in the game. So there’s a camera always on you from every goddamn angle.” ([48:40–49:02])

8. Modern Athlete Scrutiny & Social Media

Segment: [49:02–53:53]

• The hosts reflect on how today’s players endure ceaseless media and fan criticism, often directly through social media.
  • Ocho: “Before, the fans had no way of having access to you. Now you deal with much more…You become a meme…You have to be able to ignore it at times, laugh at yourself, and go again.” ([49:23–50:31])
  • Uncle: “Everybody that has a phone and a social media account, they’re a former NFL player…Everyone has an opinion in real time.” ([50:31])
• Loss of privacy for today’s megastars—discussion extends to icons like Michael Jordan, LeBron, Jay-Z, and Taylor Swift.
  • Uncle: “You think Taylor Swift could call up her girlfriend—‘Girl, let’s go to the mall’…where they gonna go?” ([54:19])

9. NFL Quarterback Rankings Controversy

Segment: [60:08–66:20]

• Dissection of Sports Illustrated’s post–Week 5 NFL QB rankings. Baker Mayfield and Daniel Jones are “snubbed,” with the hosts arguing Mayfield is playing at a top-5 level.
  • Ocho: “Daniel Jones and Baker Mayfield deserve to be on the top of that somewhere.” ([61:41])
  • Uncle: “There are not six quarterbacks playing the quarterback position better than Baker Mayfield. They’re not.” ([62:13])
  • Uncle: “If we’re basing it on the first five weeks, Baker Mayfield’s played better than everybody.” ([65:56])
• Surprise praise for Daniel Jones’ performance in Indianapolis: “He done flipped the whole script.” ([63:09])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Uncle, on backup QBs:

  “Jake Browning was a self-driving car. Like, ‘Joe out, Jake got this.’…But expectations are the number one killer of dreams.” ([10:39], [11:41])

• Ocho, on the Flacco trade:

  “We might sink a little bit, but we don’t want to just go all the way goddamn under…We have a gunslinger at the quarterback position that has a hell of an arm. But he’s not mobile.” ([07:34–08:13])

• Uncle, reality check:

  “A desperate person will do a desperate thing. Desperate teams do desperate things. This was a desperate move.” ([21:14])

• Ocho, offensive line plea:

  “My offensive line, if you guys do see this, I beg of you, I implore you to raise your level…As the offensive line goes, our team goes.” ([08:22], [08:48])

• On scrutiny in the social media era:

  “Now everybody has a camera, so…if they see you do something, it’s getting reported because everybody wants to be first.” – Uncle ([51:25]) “You become a meme, and sometimes you gotta take…the jokes for what they are, and you have to laugh at yourself and pick yourself up.” – Ocho ([50:14])

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Additional Engaging Asides

• Light-hearted banter: Regularly punctuates the show ("They killing me in the chat…told me I look like Jody from Baby Boy” – Ocho [42:20]).
• Track & field and soccer digressions: Uncle is a self-avowed track and field fanatic, Ocho a soccer nut ([41:53–43:25]).
• On wealth & fame: Extended riff on the difference between fame levels and the loss of personal freedom as a consequence ([53:32–56:37]).

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Flacco traded to Bengals: [04:49–08:41]
• Expectations of leadership: [09:28–14:00]
• Reality of NFL backup QBs: [19:43–23:24]
• O-line & Flacco’s needs: [23:24–27:57]
• Browns' QB situation drama: [31:59–34:51]
• Jaguars–Browns trade: [38:42–39:45]
• Chris Jones criticized: [46:48–48:33]
• Social media scrutiny: [49:02–53:53]
• QB rankings debate: [60:08–66:20]

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Summary

A must-listen for fans of NFL drama, team management insight, and behind-the-scenes athlete realities—this episode turns the headlines of the 2025 NFL season into a masterclass in locker-room mentality, franchise desperation, and the intense scrutiny of modern athletes, all delivered in Club Shay Shay’s unfiltered, often hilarious tone.

Transcript

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[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

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[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Hello, it's your favorite sports dunk here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, join Nightcap doesn't happen without you, so please subscribe or you're gonna make OO cry Joe Flacco, but not for the Cleveland Browns. For your Cincinnati Bengals. He will start Sunday at Green Bay. Bengals head coach Zach Taylor announced Cincinnati successfully completed a rare intra division trademark Tuesday. They sent a 2026 5th round draft pick to the Browns in exchange for flacco and a 2026 sixth round draft pick. This is how rare it's in, I think in this century. Only once, twice as it happened. The New England Patriots traded Drew Bledsoe to the Buffalo Bills. The Philadelphia Eagles traded Donovan McNabb to the Washington. They were not the commanders at the time. You know what they were. But he got traded intra division. So only three times as a quarterback that I can think of a trade like this going down. Jake Brown, Harris, Ocho, here's Jake Browning who you said was going to lead y' all to where y' all needed to go on his demotion.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Okay, let's run down. Let's run down. What happened. Joe Flacco was traded. Ocho's guy wasn't being able to. Jake Browning was not being able to hold up to it because what was supposed to happen, your backup is supposed to be able to keep you afloat until your starter comes back. That's what a backup is supposed to do. That didn't happen. So the Cincinnati Bing was like, look, we've got a lot of money invested in Chase and, and Higgins and. And we gave 14 more million dollars to a trey Hendrickson. So we need to try to maximize this. We can't just give up on the season because our quarterback is not fulfilling his obligation, which is to keep us afloat to if and when Joe, excuse me, Joe Burrow came back. Doesn't look like that was happening. And so they made the move. So Cleveland said Joe flacco in the 2026 sixth round draft pick and returns. The Bengals send them a 2026 5th round draft pick. We got it loaded. Now we're getting it right for you guys right now. How Jake Browning is taking his demotion from being the starter to now being the backup in Cincinnati.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Are you.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Are.

[Stephen Curry (Narrator/Promoter)]

You.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Know, I'm trying to respond the right way. Obviously, I'm pissed, and if I wasn't pissed, then I shouldn't be in this locker room. And it's important to me. And, you know, I'm aware of the role I played in the offensive struggles over the last few weeks and, you know, but I'm also not shouldering the entire situation. And, you know, I went through yesterday, watched my throws, tried to come up.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

With some stuff that I want to.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Work on, and just doing that. Okay. The thing a quarterback's supposed to do, say, look, it's on me. I did not play. Don't say, I'm not going to shoulder all of the blame. I. We know you. All the blame is not on you. But in that moment when you're in front of the camera as the leader of that offense, you say, look, that's on me. I didn't play well enough to get the job done. So I understand why the Bengals made that decision. If and when my time comes back up, I'll be more prepared. And I promise you, Bengals fans know this organization, my teammates, I won't let you down. Take off oo.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

I mean, listen, obviously most of the time in that situation, as a quarterback, being the face being that Joe Burrow is absent, you have to take onus. You have to take all that on your shoulders because you are the quarterback, because much is expected of you once you are at that position and you are the one who handles the ball the most outside of everyone else. With that being said, you look at our team and where we are right now, we're two and three. We still have time to be able to salvage the season. I think them continuing to stick with Jake Browning, based on the last two performance that we've seen, it would have been malpractice by the coaches. I think Zach Taylor might be on the hot seat. Yeah, listen, it's not funny. This is a serious matter. This is not a laughing matter for us. The fans are impatient. I'm impatient. I think upstairs they're also impatient because they've invested money in that opposite line. They invested money in Joe Burrow. They invested money in T and Jamar Chase and. And other, especially offensively in general, and they want to see a return on that investment.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Correct.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Joe Burrow's down. Joe Burrow down. Next man up. The next man up is not playing well, at all. So we're two and three right now. What do you want to do? We want to get someone else who is a veteran presence that has won a Super Bowl. Maybe they come in and steer the ship to keep it from sinking, similar to, like, the Titanic. We don't want to hit an iceberg. So can Joe Flacco come in and steer the ship and dodge a few icebergs? Now, we might. We might sink a little bit, but we don't want to just go all the way goddamn under right. We're gonna see what can happen. It all starts with number one. We have a gunslinger at the quarterback position that has a hell of an arm.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Yes.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

But he's not mobile.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

No, he's not. No, Joe.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Jake Browning was mobile, and he was running for his life.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Yes. Joe Flacco ain't getting away from anything.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

My offensive line, if you guys do see this, I beg of you, I implore you to raise your level of play for us offensively to have any success moving forward starting right now, this week against that packers defense.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Oh, Wyatt. Oh, my God.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

My Bengals offensive line, we need to set the tone. We need.

[Stephen Curry (Narrator/Promoter)]

We.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

We need to set the tone. All five of you. Orlando Brown. Come on, baby. You got to come to the party, brother. Mims, you got to come to the party. Right guard, left guard. Terry Caris. We got to come to the party. As we go, as the offensive line goes, our team goes. The game of football is one up front. It's one in the trenches. And for us to continue, to continue to compete not only in AFC north, but the NFL in general for the rest of the season, we have to win up front. That's what it starts with. If we win up front, everything else becomes easy. Offensively.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

I can tell, looking at the chat, that there are not a lot of leaders out there because they're looking to obfuscate blame. If you go look, just look at the quarterbacks and how they talk. Jalen hurts. Watch out when they lose a game. How he talks with Brady and Manning and all these quarterbacks lose. Look how they talk.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

It's on them.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

You don't talk about. I don't shoulder all the blame. You said it's on me. I need to play better, and I will. I understand why the organization did what they did because I wasn't getting the job done.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yes, sir.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

If and when I get another opportunity. Oh. The only reason he's on the roster is that when Joe Burrow got hurt last time, he did a well enough job to say you know what? We got a backup if Joe goes down for three to four weeks. We got a guy that can hold it in the road for us.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah, he would. Cut.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

We have a self driving car. I been seeing a lot of self driving cars lately. I'm like, hold on. I saw the car driving around. Ocho. I'm looking at, besides, hold up, wait a minute. Ain't nobody driving. Right, right, right, right. So I pulled up to the thing and stopped and somebody got out. I said, I heard people talk about it, Ocho, but that's my first time seeing one.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

You never saw it, Right, right.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

So that's what, that's what Jake Browning was. He was a self driving car like man. Joe, out. Jake got this. We saw him against Jacksonville. You remember that Thursday night game O against Jacksonville? Oh yeah, he played well. That's what gave you the confidence to say what you were saying because you had seen him in moments like this, rise to the occasion, play extremely well. I don't know what happened. Because here's the thing, Ocho. Expectations are the number one killer of dreams and hopes and aspirations. Because see, it's easy. And I tell guys all the time, I said, you know what? The easiest thing I ever did was make the Pro bowl because nobody was expecting it. Now guess what happens when they build a game plan around you and the defense build a game plan to stop you.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Wait, hold on, stay right there because I know you for the cook. Hold on now.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Hold on.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Hold on because let me tell you something. I got, got my. I got my pen and pad. Now I know you finna cook. Go ahead now.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

So that's what happens, Ocho. So you see what happened. Expectations. Jake Browning had immense expectations. Why? Oo because the Cincinnati Bengals have immense expectations. Even though Joe burrows down, they believe, man, we have enough offensively to. To right this ship until Joe gets back. We got chase. We got the best receiver in football. We believe we got another top 15 receiver in football. We got a guy that can run the ball. There ain't no reason for us to be scoring three points. 10 points, be down 34 to 3 going into the fourth quarter with the offensive weapons that we got, right? So now the expectations and you feel that living up. See, oo it was easy. Your kids, see, your kids got expectations. You never had your dad, your dad, Ochocinko. Yeah, the Pro Bowler, the one that's on Nightcap.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Now they got expectations. You didn't have to deal with your mom. Your people, like they might say, oh, you Hurricane Pauline, Paul Pauletta, son. But now you put so much expectations on your kids because the only people in the neighborhood knew you, knew your mom, knew your grandma. You're a worldwide commodity. They see that last name, they say, hold on. What's your relationship to Ocho? That's my dad. That's your dad. Now what you play, you play. What you do, you do. So what you do in sports, right?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Right.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

But you won't be when you grow up. Now, you see, Jake Browning had those expectations with that offense. He was supposed. He wasn't supposed to be Joe Burrow. He was just supposed to be that self driving car to keep it in the road. Oh, you just don't crash. Yeah, that's all you got to do, son. I don't even need you to win this race. Just get the car around the track and don't crash.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

That's a good one.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Keep it in first gear.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

See, I told you it's gonna cook.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Cause see, I already know what's gonna happen when you get the fourth. You can either burn the clutch out or you gonna script the gear. What you gonna do, Ocho? What are you gonna do? Come on.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Now, hold on. I don't need you to win the race. I just need you to get the car around the track. But that's a bar. Huh?

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Get it around the track, that's a bar.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

You don't even understand. You don't even understand what you just did. Let me write this down.

[Stephen Curry (Narrator/Promoter)]

Hold on now.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Are you cooking?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

What? God damn, boy. You need to be a pastor.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Hey, I don't. Jake. I don't need Jake. You think we need you to be 15 and 2, right? Get us the 10. Can you. Can you get us to 11? Can you keep it? Can you get us to 10 and 7? Get us to 10 and 7.

[Matt Jones]

Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining and twice a week. That is exactly what you're going to get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

What was that?

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Looks like something that should not be sold.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Oh, my.

[Matt Jones]

So that was my other big Colts takeaway. Sold that.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yes.

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[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Ten and seven might be. Might be something. Might be something we can look at.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

The. The Texans, one and four. The Titans, one and four. Okay. They got two teams in that division are playing really well. You got the AFC south, you got the Jags, and you got the Colts.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

They cutting up. They cutting up. They cutting up. It's funny, two of the teams are always three and four are now one and two, battling with a chance to win that division in the AFC South. Well, obviously, let me take that back, because when Peyton Manning was there, they dominated the AFC for sure.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Absolutely.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Let me just say it. As as of recent, it hasn't been like that.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Basically, since Andrew Luck left, it hadn't been like that.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Hey, listen, I'm excited you think about what we are, too. As a Bangle fan. I'm sure we have some Bangle fans in this chat and just fans of football in the chat in general. If you think about us and Whoopi are right now. We at the bottom. Huh? We at the bottom. There's nowhere else. There's no other place we can go. But up from this point on.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Based on what we saw last week, there's only one place we can go. We got Flacco in there. I'm optimistic. I'm optimistic.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

What choice do you have? Ocho, Right?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

And then. And a lot of people got some people, obviously, I hear some Bengal fans. Oh, why we go get Joe Flacco? There were no viable options. It's about, well, why didn't we get anybody who could run? Why didn't we get anybody mobile? Who's out there?

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

That is Call Amazon and see if they can see your quarterback.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Exactly. This ain't this ain't madness. Is real life. This is real life. What we need is not like quarterbacks or like, like goddamn apple tree. You just go pick one, you want to replace the next one. That is one of the reasons why it's so difficult to not only find a quarterback, but find a transcending generational talent like a Joe Burrow. You can't replace it.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

No.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

You can't replace Lamar Jackson if he's injured, as you can see with the Ravens struggling. You can't replace a goddamn Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes or Justin Herbert.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

You can, but can we get. Can we get a Carson Wentz? Can he do what Carson Wentz is doing for the Minnesota Vikings until JJ McCarthy comes back? Because he's making it hard on Kevin O' Connell to put JJ McCarthy ass back in the ball game, considering how well he's actually playing since JJ McCarthy's been out. More touchdowns, fewer interceptions. That's what it is. Now, look, in this situation, you're not going to make it difficult for them not to put Joe Burrow ass back in there. He's making far too much money and he's a far superior quarterback to what you are. But with that being said, bro, you gotta. This is how bad. This is how bad Jake Browning is. His QBR is actually higher than Joe Flacco. But when you desperate, Ocho, a. Somebody say, man, look, if one aspirin, if. If two aspirin killed clean will clear your headache, you'll. You won't have a headache and say, an hour. Well, and, and that's what Jerry Krause, Jerry Reinsdorf asked Michael Jordan. But it's a true analogy. You know, one aspirin take two aspirins. Pain should subside, subside in a couple of hours. Well, if I take 10, it's probably gonna kill you. And, and he asked Mike, would you take 10? He said, well, how bad is my headache? A desperate person will do a desperate thing. Desperate teams do desperate things. This was a desperate move because in actuality, the quarterback that you had starting is actually playing better than the quarterback you're replacing him with. But let you see, when you get desperate, Ocho, when you get desperate, you make desperate decisions. You don't think clearly. You don't see clearly. All I know is that my guy isn't playing well. Well, let's grab that guy. You do realize that guy got benched also? Yes, I can see if you got. Hey, I want to trade for your starter. No, you traded for a guy that got benched.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Can I say something? Yes. We traded for a guy that got benched, obviously, but the guy that got bench that's coming to the Bengals has a much better supporting cast around him right now. Again, the one issue I did say, because despite coming, despite coming here to a much better supporting cast, if that front four or that front five, when it is five, don't do what they need to do, they not can be a wall for two seconds. Give me a wall for two seconds. That's all I need. Give me two. If you can give me two, we can do something with one and five.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Well, you better, you better keep Flacco in the shotgun. Cause it's gonna take him longer than three to get in his drop back pedal.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

That's fine, that's fine. We can put it back there in the shotgun so he can already process. He can see what's in front of him right away. Yeah. And it doesn't take him that much long to get that ball out. And you know, one thing about Flacco, boy, he got an arm on him.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Oh, he can throw it now. He can make, he can still make all the throws. Now he's gonna throw, chasing Higgins about three. Now he gonna throw the other team by two. Now it's just a matter of whether they're gonna catch him or not. Because he gonna give everybody. He's an equal opportunity employer. He believe, he believes in dei, diversity, equity, inclusion. So he, he gonna diversify. Touchdown, interception, he gonna make it's equality and he going to include the defense and what the hell he doing. So I'm just letting y' all know. Bingo fans, you are. Listen, you remember him when he was at the Ravens. You remember him when he was at Cleveland. You already know. And you just got a glimpse of him earlier this year, so you know who and what he is. So if you think you're gonna get 2012 playoff, Flacco, that is, hey, he was never, ever able to replicate. He could never really put a regular season together like he could those playoff runs. Ocho, he had some of the great playoff runs.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

A crazy work in the playoffs. Crazy work. But again, you think about what he had offensively with the Ravens even back then with that playoff run. Even with that run. Hell, I could just, I could. I honestly, I can honestly say throughout his, the entirety of his career, he never had nothing like he got working with, right?

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He had a better offensive line, but he didn't have. You know, I'm trying to think who was his running Back, back then. I don't even remember who his running back was. I know. Anquan Bo Beavers, 27.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

27, 27.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Ray Rice.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yes, I believe so.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Okay.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

I believe so. Yeah.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

But I think the thing is, Ocho, he's gonna need time to throw. Like you said, he doesn't have mobility. He's not a guy that you can move. I mean, are you gonna move the pocket with him? You can't zone read with him. I mean you're limited basically. Hey, oh, he's a drop back. He's a prototypical 70s, 80 drop back quarterback. That's what he is. He's not like these quarterbacks that we have today. All the quarterbacks, they are slightly mobile, some more than others, but oo he is what he is. And you?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah, I mean, listen, even Joe Burrow ain't Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow ain't goddamn Josh Allen. But his ability to manipulate the pocket and feel pressure and being able to escape it and make throws down the field is second to none. He's really good at escaping the pocket despite not being the considered dual threat that those quarterbacks I just named are. Listen, I'm hoping we do well in the onus. It all comes down to the officer line.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

As they go, the better they play, the better we play offensively.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

I think they're going to try you look, you go in the draft and you try to draft an offensive lineman. If somebody comes available, you know, Ocho, in free agency, you get somebody to come to your team, you have to overpay because you're asking this man to uproot where he's been the last three, four, five years, six years, seven years. Who are he gotten comfortable? He's established himself in the community. If he has a wife, his wife is interested in the community. You got kids, they got friends and they been in school. So you're gonna have to overpay to get one of those guys or an offensive tackle or a guard or a center to come join your team. So you're gonna have to overpay to get one of those guys. And then, you know, you go in the draft and you try to find the best offensive lineman because you're going to be drafting pretty high up if this thing doesn't get turned around. Ojo. Unfortunately, that's that, you know, you might end up being a top 10 and I don't know, like I said, I haven't seen any projections just yet, but there might be a situation where you have to go in and take a lineman in the top 10. Now we know. Look, Anthony Munoz is the best offensive lineman that they've had. Willie. I know. Hey, I know. Big Willie.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Big Willie.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Hey. He from my home state, went to Auburn. But you want. Hey, listen, you guys need an offensive line bad o. Joe.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah, we do. We do. I'm just hoping those young bulls, Those young bulls that we do have, especially those that have gotten paid, they. They've been paid a nice ransom. I'm hoping they can show up and pay dividends, you know, and play like the money that they received so far. I'm excited for them. Obviously, getting Joe Burrow. Despite where we are right now, we're still 2 and 3. The season is salvageable. I know what Joe can do. But the only way to allow Joe to cook, the only way he can be that chef, the head chef, is he needs a little time. If he get a little time on you give Joe anytime. Boy, he is surgical with that ball. That's for any of you. That in the chat, that no football. Even though he can't move, he got an arm on him.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Yes.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

He got two of the best. He got the best. Maybe, arguably, depending on who you ask the best dude to throw to. So I'm excited, I'm optimistic, and we can't go anywhere but up from here because we at the bottom of the barrel right now.

[Matt Jones]

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[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

What was that?

[Matt Jones]

Looks like something that should not be sold.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Oh, my.

[Matt Jones]

So that was my other big Colts takeaway. They sold that?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Might want to go back to the Colts stadium. Yeah. Might want to go back to the drawing board on that.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

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Visit toyota.com NFL now to learn more. Kevin Stefanski was non committal on whether rookie Shador Sanders or practice squad Bailey Zappi would be the team's backup quarterback in the aftermath of trading Joe Flacco to the Bengals. Stefanski said he would let let the play, let the week play out and make the decision later. When asked about QB2 role, Stefanski also would not say if the team would sign Zappy to the active roster ahead of Sunday's game so that one of the backups would serve as the inactive emergency quarterback. Oh Joe, what are we doing? It's already been reported that Bailey Zappi was taking the mess a lot of the practice squad snapshot.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah, listen, Kevin Stefanski is really enjoying this moment. He's Kevin Stefan is making the Browns organization basically Jerry Springer. He's making it basically Maury Povich. When Maury Povin does the goddamn DNA test and the girl or the girl gets up screaming and they run around with the camera.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Yeah, yeah, that's.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

That's exactly what he's making. He's making a mockery of the situation and enjoying it. Yeah, he's enjoying it. Just announce the goddamn quarterback. Who Quarterback number two. If Bailey's happy been taking the practice reps knowing that Shador Joe Flacco gone. If Shadow was already number three and goddamn dealing with Gabriel goes number one and Joe Flacco going, then that makes goddamn store number two. Why are we playing these goddamn mind games? Like what do you, what do we do?

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

My thing was Ocho if he was. Let's just say for the sake of argument, Joe Flacco started. Okay, when Joe Flacco was there. Joe Flacco was one of the Bailey Zappy was two. Excuse me. Dylan Gabriel was two, Shador was three. But the report said Bailey Zappy was getting the practice squad. They signed him off somebody else team and put him on their practice squad. He comes in or taking reps that Shador should be getting. So with that being said, I understood the assignment. Ain't no way Dylan Graber gonna be taking all those reps and somehow come game, come this reckless season, Shador Sanders gonna pole vault in front of him. So if Bailey Zappi is taking those reps. Practice squad reps. Ocho, what's the likelihood? Now, I'm not saying it can't happen, but what's the likelihood? Hey, I don't know what they're doing. I don't know. I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure. Cleveland know what they doing. Maybe they're waiting on desean to come back. I don't know. It says he's been out there, he's been throwing and I don't know, Ocho, but I just know. Look, they've made a mockery of this. We've talked about Cleveland more in the first six weeks of this year than we have at any point in time. And it's not all good. But I don't know what. I really don't know what to make of this. It's. We gonna let it play out. What I'm trying to. What you gonna let play out? I can see if this was a training camp battle, Ocho.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah, it's different.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

And let it play out. I'm trying to figure out what can someone do in a week of practice, Ocho, that's going to change your mind from where you stand right now to move like, oh, well, he had a great week of practice.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Nothing.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Whoop dee doo. Nothing at all.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Again. That's why I said they're making a mockery of situation, that's all. What's going on? Guys built this little mini gym.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

It's not a. It's. They asking him. They asking Shador. What. What do you know? What do you. What do you mean? As that's Dylan Gabriel, you ask him, what do you think about. I'm not playing. Ask Dylan Gabriel. What does he think about Joe Flacco being traded. Why are you asking me? I'm the backup to the backup that got. That just got started. See, they always trying to put a microphone because they always trying to get him to slip up. They always trying to catch him off his guard. Ocho. They tried to.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

They.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

They always trying. They don't ask. They don't ask any other quarterback. They don't ask the third string or they don't ask the practice squad guy, what do you think about somebody getting traded? But somehow the microphone always seemed to find Shador. They're hoping he mess up. They hope he has a proverbial slip. You see, that's why he's not starting. You see, he needs to keep his mouth closed. You see, this is why he.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

What he is a news cycle, huh? It's the Last name. In general, they haven't had somebody this polarizing. That's not even in. That's not even in an important role as of yet. They never had anybody like this before. They haven't. And they don't even know how to handle the situation in general. Most of the time, in a situation like this, when you have something as polarizing, a polarizing figure like that, you. You do everything you can to stay away from it. But no, they're engaging with it in purpose to keep the Cleveland Browns in the news cycle. No different than the goddamn Dallas Cowboys, right? No damn different.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Man, if I was to do. I say, look, man, if and when I'm starting, when. When Coach Stefanski tell me I'm starting, then I talk to you guys. What other backup quarterback they talking to?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

You can't do that, though. But you understand the rules, though. You know, you understand the rules.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

But I'm trying to figure out Ocho. I'm trying to think. They're not asking James Winston no questions. They not asking Russ any question. Now, all the questions are the Jackson darting cardi.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah, right, Right.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

So I'm. My only thing is. Okay, so why do you continuously ask a backup that's not playing. Why are you continuously asking. Why are you continuously asking them questions? What do you hope. What do you. What do you hope to get from him?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

I can tell you what they hoping.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

I can sound like. I know. I know what they're hoping also.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Hey, they. They hoping like when you go to the army, like when you go to the Marines, like when you go to the Navy. They're trying to break you in the beginning to see if you are the one. Are you built for this? Mentally, that's all. They waiting on the snap.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Huh?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

They waiting on them to snap. I'm telling you, he has to understand. I can see. I can see the play. I can see the play all the way. I can see the play way before it happened. All the way before a start. How can you not see it? If you understand the game and the game that they're playing, I can see it. And clear as day, your owner coming out and saying some of the things he said.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

True.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Training camp. Oh, I see what this is. Okay, now I got to play the game. I see what you. I see what y' all trying to do.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Right?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

You got to play the game now. You. You in their structured environment, you got to play by their rules.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Yeah, you're right.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Listen, even. Even I was in that position at one point. My feet ain't wet. I Got my toe in the water. I got my toe in the water, but my feet ain't wet just as of yet. But. But once. Once I got in the water fully. Oh, but you seen. You seen every bit of Dave County, Liberty City. Come up out of me.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Ocho, we got breaking news. Another major trade between the Jags and the Browns. Jaguars get cornerback Greg Newsom and Jets 2026, six round picks from the Brown Browns get Tyson Campbell. The Eagles 2026 seventh round pick from the Jag. The trade partners from the night of the 2025 draft now pull off another mid season trade.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Hey, listen, that's a good try. That's a good trade. Now, I don't understand why they would.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

But the Jags. Yeah, the Jags going for it.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Oh, yeah. Listen, especially for the Jags, I don't. And this is the thing I would get ready to say Greg Newsom is a phenomenal uncle for sure. Greg Newsom ain't no slouch. You know, we understand what Denzel Ward is on the other side, but when they try to go to Greg Newsom's side, but that young boy can play some ball. So this is a win for the Jags. And with great understanding on why they did it is because, oh, we finna push all our chips to the front. We pushing all our chips to the front because we really believe we have a chance right now with the way Trevor Lawrence is playing.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Yep.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Hey, that's. That's respectable. And if you're a Jaguars fan, I commend ownership. I commend you, GM And I commend your goddamn head coach. They done pushed all their chips on the table. We going in. Hey, the chat, funny as hell.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

What happened?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

They just been going in on you? They going in on me. Somebody. I look like Debo. I look like a Mexican with his damn flannel on.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

What they going on me for? What I do? Go ahead. What I do, Ocho?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Oh, they kill. They killing me.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

What they say I do? Hold on, Chad. What I do? Oh, I was just asking. I was just asking questions. Damn. I can't ask no questions.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

It ain't funny, boy.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Look, I know you guys think. But here's the real when it comes to track and field, I don't have a research team. I'm old enough to remember y'. All. I'm 57, so I go all the way back. I remember the 84 Olympics. I remember Seoul, I remember Barcelona, I remember Atlanta. I remember Athens. I said, what y' all want me to. I remember Sydney was in 2000. Athens 04. Beijing was 8. London was 12. Rio was 1621. I remember what y' all want me to do. I remember the world championships when they came out. I'm sorry that y' all can't remember your way home. That ain't my fault. I've told you if you know Shannon Sharp, if you watch me at any point in time. I told people my favorite sport is track and field. Yes, I love football and I know the history of football. I know the history of basketball, but I love track and field. I playing around the track and field. I mean, if I didn't really have to talk about football, I go to the gym. But when track and field on, I ain't going nowhere. It's the only sports that I watch with the sound. No other sport will I watch with the sound. And to. To. For them to take their time out to come on nightcap. What other platform other than my boy Justin Gatlin and his partner that give track and field athletes the platform like we do?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Okay, well, yeah, you're right. You're right about that.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Hey, you know, I'm sorry that, you know, I asked questions that I think the chat would want to hear. What do you eat? What are your training sessions like X, Y and Z? Yes. So I'm just. I'm confused at what y' all think I'm supposed to do. Like. Like stutter or go through it. Yes. There are no notes on here with Anna Hall. I know who she is. I know she was a Florida alum. I know she from Colorado.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

I mean, yeah, y' all don't worry about it. Uncle, they still killing me. They told me I look like Jody from Baby Boy.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Man, people weird. I mean, like. Like I'm not supposed to ask any questions. Like I'm supposed to be like, what do you. What do you like? No, I know that. I know the history. I can't wait for us to have Ryan Krauser on so I can talk to him about the shot. The greatest. The greatest shot putter ever. Anna was talking about the Jackie's record that she said in Seoul. 72.91. Seems unbreakable. That woman shot put the USSR. Ain't nobody breaking that one. No, no, no, no.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Hey, you know what? You know what's funny is the same way you are about track and field. One of the one sporting one.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

One of the ones you like that about soccer?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Oh, my God. Well, soccer come on. My phone on do not disturb. You know, on Saturday, Sunday. I'm mad. I Fly to London in the morning. My flight at 5 o'.

[Christina Williams]

Clock.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

I'm mad that I'm going to London and everybody on goddamn international break. Everybody on international break. So that'll be the perfect time for me to catch a goddamn game. I can sneak and go catch a game, right? Everybody gone.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Ocho, does this mean we'll see Travis full time on offense? Greg Newsom was the number 26 pick in the 2021 NFL Draft. Tyson Campbell was picked 33 in that same draft, just seven picks apart.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

You know what? I'm curious what they're going to do because they have a phenomenal nickel in Jordan Lewis. Right. I'm not sure who's on the other side, but you know, Greg Newsom is coming in on one side and he's going to. He's going to be that guy, that guy that can do it. I still think they know Travis Hunter wants to continue to contribute on defense. I think he'll continue to have those packages. They're going to find ways to fit him in there at some point. But what we saw offensively, he's too dynamic. Huh? They have to find ways to get in the ball. On offense, he's too dynamic. You put the ball in the area, anywhere in the vicinity, he's going to make that play. Especially those jump balls that are ready.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Where he can showcase his athleticism.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah. They become 80, 20 with somebody like that. Yeah. So I mean, listen, he's too dynamic, you know, in showing flashes of brilliance in which we saw at Colorado on both sides of the ball. So I hope they allow him to continue doing, doing his thing on both sides, giving them a healthy, a healthy count on both sides of the ball. We going to be effective and efficient, but they don't overload him. And he's able to, he's able to play at his best on both sides.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

And that's what it comes down to because they, they, they need a special player.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

On one side of the ball or other. It doesn't work for them if he's average on both sides of the ball. Ocho. He has to be dynamic on one or the other.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Right.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Because that's why you traded up Ocho. That's why you gave up what you gave up to get him. Because if you gave up what you get it and you just got an average player, that, that doesn't make sense to me. So let him be dynamic. Let him be dynamic and then you, like you said, bring him in on the package. I, me personally, I still think he's better at defense, I think his instincts, his ball skills are just second to none. I know you like it because of the jump ball, but right now it's just athleticism. Now, once he learns the route tree, I give prime example. Tyreek. Remember when Tyreek first came in, he was a gadget guy, and then all of a sudden, Tyreek learned the route tree. Tyreek has played his way into a hall of famer.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Travis Hunter has that kind of ability. He's just got to get better at running around. Right now they only run him on spots and jump balls.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah. If I could get. If I get Trav, I know you're gonna see this. If I can get with you in the off season.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Yeah, that'd be great for Trav.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

I need you for two months. Two months. We working four days a week. All we. All I need is an hour.

[Stephen Curry (Speaker)]

An hour.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Your time for four weeks. I know you already have your training. I'm not trying to step on nobody toes. I'm talking about running routes.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

I'm talking about giving the illusion of doing something that you're really not at full speed. Oh, my goodness, brother. What I could do with you. Oh, my goodness, what I could do.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Hopefully he takes you up on that. Ocho, man, listen.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Now, you know that's my specialty.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Now I do, man.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Hey, Trav, come on. Holler at your boy. In the off season, I don't need much time. An hour a day. That's it. Route running. I wish they would come up there and play press. Come on up here if you want to.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Shh. Ocho. Just days after his most embarrassing moment of the season, chief pass rusher Chris Jones addressed why he didn't give maximum effort on the Jaguars game winning touchdown. Jones said, there's a teaching point for me, a little adversity. I think I. I can't think. The play is over. It's a learning lesson. I thought it was over. I thought we had him down, so I kind of stopped and was about to celebrate. Then I realized he wasn't down. Chris Jones is one of the core leaders of the Chief. And to see him take a playoff in that situation doesn't seem real. Does sum up. But. But for me, I thought they were gonna let him score. That's what I would have done, Ocho. That way, hey, let them score. Right now. I need maximum time. But I think it caught him off guard that they. They was passing the ball instead of running it. So I may. Maybe. Maybe cj. And I'm. Like I said, this is me Thinking for him.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Right.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Because it's hard for me to believe that I saw it in real time. I'm like, Damn, C.J. but I, I thought that, and maybe they did think that they were going to run the ball. And I think they were a little surprised that the Chiefs passed the ball. But in a situation like that, you, you know, you can't assume he knows that. I mean he, he knew that, but now he really knows that. And you know, obviously Andy had to talk, Red had to talk to him. It's just not a good look. And he knows that. You're talking about one of the premier def tackles, a three time super bowl champ, a multiple time all pro player. He's probably, he's more likely going to be the all pro defensive tackle of the 2000 and twenties. Can't have that on your resume.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Right.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Like you said, it's a, it's a teachable moment. I don't think I, I don't think we'll, we'll have that issue with C.J. again.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah. I mean, listen, you think about how many 65 snaps. I'm not sure how many play on defense.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

All of them. All of them aren't 100% effort. But you can't look like you did on that play.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

No.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Can't look at it. There's a microscope on you being who you are. Aaron Donald's no longer playing, so you are considered widely as the best defensive tackle in the game. So there's a camera always on you from every goddamn angle.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

You absolutely right. Jones also said his social media accounts weren't deactivated as an attempt to avoid criticism. Ocho, back in your day, we didn't really have to deal with social media 24 7, the Twitter, you know, viral takes. Do you think athletes in today's game face more criticism than they did in years past?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Well, absolutely. Absolutely. Because not only you have to deal with the media, you have to deal with the fans as well. Before the fans, the fans had no way of having access to you. You didn't have to see it, you just have to hear it either on radio or on tv. Now you deal with much more. Way more criticism. And they critique you way more when you don't play well or things don't happen or, or you get hit hard or, or you fumble the ball. You got to deal with it from everybody and all the social media. So you have to have thick skin. You have to have thick skin. Especially to be a player in this era. Especially to be a great player in this era. It has to go on one end, out the other. You have to be able to ignore it at times. You have to be able to laugh at yourself and laugh at your mistakes in order to continue to function, you know, at a high level in whatever respective craft it is you're doing. Just not football in general. You know, whether it be, you know, you're a rapper or you.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

You.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

You play. You play football, you play tennis, you. It's. Everything is everywhere now. You know, you. You. You become a meme, and sometimes you got. You got to take. Take the jokes for what they are, and you have to laugh at yourself and pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and just go again.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Yeah, there's definitely. There's no question about it. Everybody that has a phone and have a social media account, they're a former NFL, NBA, MLB player. They're former coach.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Former general manager. They're former vp. Yeah. So now everybody has an opinion, and you can see their opinions show up in real time. You're absolutely right, Ocho. With the media, you're not getting away with anything. There was a time that the media would see a player doing something right, and it would never make the news. It would never make the papers. That ain't happening now. No, it's not happening. If they see you do something, it's getting reported because everybody wants to be first. Everybody wants to break the story. It's like it's gonna get out anyway.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Right.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

So let me be the first to get it. So there is no longer that. That bond that used to be between the great players and. And the reporters. Yeah, that's over.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

That's long.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

That's over. And now everybody has a camera, so you can't do. Even if you wanted to get away with something, for the most part, it's hard to get away with stuff now.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Right.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Because just think about it. Jordan going out the night before and playing and playing and gambling. Well, that was gonna be on somebody. Look at Michael Jordan before he played the Knicks. This Michael Jordan at the G. At the blackjack table, y'. All. What's going on?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah. Cameras everywhere, too, now.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Everywhere.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

The funny thing, knowing Jordan and how he was, his mannerisms, his Persona in general, man, he wouldn't give to. You know what?

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Oh, absolutely. Why you think you don't see his ass out now?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Well, he really can't be out.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

He couldn't be out. Jordan hadn't been able. Jordan hadn't been able to be Mike Jordan since he was at umc.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

The moment he hit the league, it Was a wreck and did that, it was over, Right?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

And Willie. And when he got those red and black shoes, it was Good night, Irene. Yeah.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

It was a rap.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

It was a rap.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Think about it. Ocho, he could. He's really Michael Jackson. They really never been able to enjoy. I mean, you gotta rent the whole movie theater. You wanna go out to a movie, you gotta rent the whole theater out. You wanna take this kid skate, you gotta rip the whole. The whole skating rink out.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

I couldn't live like that.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

It would be hard. I couldn't live. Everything is on everything. It's. Everything is on the microscope. Just imagine how everything. How everything looks so big on the microscope. That's how you look in the public eyes.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Now that I don't mind. I don't care. I'm kidding about the microscope. Because what you see is what you get. What you see is what you get. I don't. I don't play a character. This is just me. But the whole not being able to go anywhere. I'm too sociable. I. I love conversing with people. I love. I love seeing people and. And hugging and saying, you wouldn't be.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

That way if you was that. Well, you can't be. Boy, you couldn't be like that with that kind of money. Boy, people to get you.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Oh, oh, you talk about the money. The money wise. Okay, okay. Yeah.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

What person, you know, that popular don't have money?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Well, hold on, hold on, hold on. I. I got money now. What you saying?

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Not like that.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Okay, okay.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

They buddy chop your head off.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah. I got a question.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

What.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

What can Michael Jordan and LeBron do you. That I can't do?

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Go to the mall. They can't do that. We just talked about it, man. What you can't do, you can't go.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

You.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

You mean you. You. But that's what you have to be able to do. If you're a Jay Z, where's Jay Z gonna go? Where Beyonce gonna go? What Taylor Swift gonna go? You think Taylor Swift could call up her girlfriend? Girl, let's go to the mall. Girl, let's go get us a drink. Where they going?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah. I. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm one of the. I'm. I'm. I've always been accessible. I don't care how big I get. Which is probably why God would never bless me with that type of. With that type of wealth. Because he know damn well I'm gonna be at the mall. He know damn well I'm gonna be at the McDonald's drive through. He knows. Well, I'm gonna be at every soccer game I can get to. It's not happening. You know damn well I'm gonna still be on my grandma porch in Liberty City and have everybody driving around to see if I'm sitting out there. I'm not. I. I can't. I can't.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

I mean, you might be. You might be out there, but you're gonna have security, and then you're gonna be up in the box. You ain't gonna be in the. You ain't gonna be in the stands.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

It ain't the same when you. When you go to a sporting event.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Especially, you're not the same. You look at that through the prism that you're the same. You're not the same. You can still have some of the same friends and y'.

[Stephen Curry (Narrator/Promoter)]

All.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

But they come to you, right? They go someplace, they take the whole island over. You see, most of the time, you see them. Where do you see them at? On the yacht, when you see Jay Z, how many security you see with him? How many in that detail? That security detail, when you see Mike?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Damn.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

That's. That's. That's your life now, Ocho. That is your life. It's private jets. It ain't no more spirit. It ain't no more in the airports. It's not anymore that. Whoa.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

So you're telling me if I reach that type of wealth, I can't fly spirit no more?

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

You're not flying. That. That sounds good, but you're not saying that you're not gonna be worth a billion dollars, $5 billion, 10 billion, $30 billion? And fly that you're not. That's just like. You don't buy the same. You buy chrome heart. You. But you. You see what you spend your money on? And I guarantee you, when you were younger, you're like, ain't no way I spent this much money for a car.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Wait a minute. I. I didn't buy chrome hearts. That was a gift for my baby.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

You. Hey, so everything that you got is a gift from your baby? The watches, that jewelry, that Cuban. The house. You got all that gifts.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Oh, no, no, no.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Exactly. You see? You see how you move accordingly to the. The resources. So just imagine I gave you two. You were $2 billion.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Okay, okay, let's. Let's reset. Let's. Let's. Hypothetically speaking.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Okay, you were 2 billion.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. So tell me what you think I'm not gonna do.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

You not walk. You're not walking in. You cannot walk into a regular airport. You're gonna fly private because you have the kind of means to fly private. And because you're not gonna run, Ocho, you're not gonna run the risk. You are a high value target.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

And I know why you think everybody is your friend. When you get that kind of money, you build up a lot of enemies also.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Damn, I got. Hey, you think I got enemies right now? You think?

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Hell, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And the more money you get, the more. The more you get, the more dissension, dislike, jealousy, envy.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

But.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

But come along with it.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

I'm a likable person. You could ask anybody in the world.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

What Biggie say, More money, more problems. He didn't say mo. He didn't say more money, more friends, more money, more problems, Right?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

By that, you right. But I just don't understand how anybody could not like me. Like what? I don't.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

I want you to get a billion. So that's the only way I'm gonna get my 5,900 back, huh? That's the only way I'm gonna get my 5,900 back. If you get a billion?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Not really. I give it to you now. But I told you, as long as I owe you, you'll never go broke. Well, I. I just. See, it's. It's better. It's better suited in my hands as opposed to yours.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

So you drawing interest on my money?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

I ain't drawing interest on your money, but I just got your best interest. You see how that works?

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

I can show you that 5,900. Man, I got you.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

I got you.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

I got a few bills I need to pay. What you need to pay ain't none of 5,900, though.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Hey, I can loan you some if you need it.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Oh, you go. So you. You owe me, but you willing to loan me money? You gonna loan me my money, Chad? How that makes sense, Chad? This man just told me he owe me money, but he gonna loan me my money.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Listen, I ain't gonna loan you the money I owe you. I'm gonna loan you some money.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Oh, you will pay me and then loan me extra?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Oh, okay. Okay. Nah, I'm good. Yeah, but I think I. Look, I think everybody. I think everybody in our chat understands the level of scrutiny that these athletes face today. The older athletes didn't have to. Didn't have to worry about that. They didn't have to worry about that. They didn't have to worry about Their business being. Because if somebody want to tell your business, where were they going? Oh, oh, he had. Recording somebody's phone call. Having somebody having cameras, you know, coming in and out.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Hey, I'm seeing a lot of that lately. I'm seeing a lot of that later. And not. Not sports related in general, but I thought that was a federal offense. I thought that was a felony.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

And.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

And recording someone.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

It all depends on what state you're in.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Oh, okay.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

California. Yeah. They tell you, they tear you up with that. You can't record now a call you in someone's. Now you have no, no, no, no leg to stand on.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Right.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

In a public setting for privacy. You can't be at the park until my man don't feel me. Nah. You can't be in the airport talking about. Don't film me. You do have a level of privacy in your own home.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Okay.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

You do have a level. Like some states, it only matters the. The person that's taping you recording, you know that that's happening. Other than that. So it all depends on the state. It varies from state to state. But this level of criticism and scrutiny that guys. Serena and the women's athletes and the men athletes today. Yeah, it's not even close. Even Mike said it. Mike said he don't know how he would be able to function with this social media. No Ocho. After five weeks, Sports Illustrated has dropped the NFL quarterback ranking. Here they are. Josh Allen is number one. Patrick Mahomes is number two. I'm only gonna do the top ten. Matthew Stafford is three. Lamar Jackson is four. Jared Goff is five. Dak Prescott is six. Baker Mayfield is seven. Justin Herbert is eight. Jordan Love is nine. Drake May is ten. Okay, just for the sake of art, we'll go through 15. Jaden. Daniel Jones is 11. Jaden Daniels is 12. Sam Donald is 13th. Jalen Hurts is 14th. C.J. stroud is 15th. Bo Nix is 20. Jake Browning is 30.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Can I be honest with you?

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Yes.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

I'm not sure when they made that list, but Daniel Jones and Baker Mayfield belong somewhere near the top, along with Josh Allen.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. If we're just talking about this year, Baker Mayfield got to be in the top five.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Baker Mayfield and Josh Allen. Whatever list this is and whatever it came out, if it's based on, been done so far. Up into. Up. Up to this week in the season, week five or week six. Whatever.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Yes, for sure.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Daniel Jones and Baker Mayfield deserve to be on the top of that somewhere. Sam Donald needs to be in there as well.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Yeah, if we just. If we just start baking it on this week.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Right.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

I'm not so sure that Baker Mayfield shouldn't be one. We're not. Look, we're not talking about. Look, we understand what Josh Allen has done. We understand what Patrick Mahomes has done. We understand what Matthew Stafford has done, and we know the MVPs that Lamar has done. But if we're talking. If we're basing it on the first five weeks of this season, they have enough. Those guys have not played Baker Mayfield. I'm sorry. And y' all know how I feel about Patrick Mahomes, and I love everybody that they got ranked, but they have not played. There are not six quarterbacks playing better than Baker Mayfield. That is a lie. I don't care what your fan base is. I don't care if you're a Bill, I don't care if you're Chiefs. I don't care if you're the Rams, you, Baltimore. There are not seven, six quarterbacks playing the quarterback position better than Baker Mayfield. They're not.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Hell. Or. Or Daniel Jones, for. For that matter.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

No, they're not.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

He's a surprise. I didn't know. I. I mean, I could be.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

I'm one of them.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

I was a culprit, you know, who felt he wasn't going to succeed. Yeah, I just thought he wasn't. Based on what we saw from him in New York and for him to come to. To Indy and do what he's doing, I'm like, man, what in the world? He done flipped the whole script in the afcc, Neil. He's playing phenomenal football, man. So I. I want to be the first to say I apologize and I was wrong.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

I told you, go start. You ain't pay one. The. The guy that. The incumbent guy. The incumbent starter, which is Richardson, is making 4 or 5 million. They bring a backup in making 14 million, and you think the guy that's making 14 million gonna be on the bench?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. That wasn't like.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

That's not happening. Ocho, with the game that you just watched, do you think Jalen Hurst is ranked appropriate at 14? Oh, if you. We're. Listen, we're not talking. He won the Super Bowl. He's super bowl mvp. Based on what you've seen through the first five weeks of the season, has he played better than Sam Darnold, Daniel Jones, Drake May, Jordan Love? Has he played better than those guys?

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Glad you put it that way. I'm glad you put it that way. If anything, you know what he's appropriately ranked. He's appropriately ranked based on what they ask of him to do offensively, what they ask him to do offensively. Where the numbers are not going to be like any of those guys. That's, that's ahead of him. So what he's asked to do, he is appropriately ranked right where he is, if that makes sense.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

All I know is they're not sick, they're not six quarterbacks that's currently playing the quarterback position better than Shake and Bake. They're just not what you call him, Shake and Bake.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

They're not.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Look, and look, we know Patrick Mahomes is the most accomplished, you know, three Super Bowls, three Super Bowl MVPs. You know, he's been in the Super bowl five times. He's been in the AFC Championship every year that he's been a starter. He's never not been in the NFC AFC Championship game. We get all that. Lamar, the two time league mvp, Josh Allen is a one time league mvp. Matthew Stafford led a team to the Super Bowl. I get all of that and kudos. Those guys accomplished that and you can't take that away from them. But I'm sorry, those guys are not playing the position better than Baker Mayfield is playing the position. It's just that simple. That ain't got nothing to do with what he might do moving forward. They said the first five weeks, this is after five weeks. Sports Illustrated dropped their quarterback ranking. So they're saying after five weeks of this year, 2025, nothing that happened. 2024, going back, nothing that's going to happen. Week six, moving forward. They said the first five weeks of this season, Baker Mayfield's played better than everybody.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah, that he has.

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

And his record is just. They only lost one game. Josh Allen lost one game. Patrick Holmes, I think I don't know what they record. LaMar Jackson is 1 and 4. Matthew Stafford, I think they've lost two games. Jerry Gosser lost the game. Dak, I think they're 2, 2 and 1.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah. What about what? The Colts lost one, right?

[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Colts lost one. Yes.

[Ocho (Sports Commentator, possibly nickname for a co-host or analyst)]

Yeah.

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[Uncle (Sports Commentator, possibly a nickname)]

Oh my.

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