Best of NFL News Part 1: GOIN' IN on HATERS after Shedeur Sanders makes Pro Bowl, Did the Eagles FUMBLE OC Hire?!

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Best of NFL News Part 1: GOIN' IN on HATERS after Shedeur Sanders makes Pro Bowl, Did the Eagles FUMBLE OC Hire?!

Release Date: January 31, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe ("Joe"), Uncle Ocho
Podcast: Club Shay Shay (iHeartPodcasts and Shay Shay Media)

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Episode Overview

This high-energy episode features Shannon Sharpe and Uncle Ocho dissecting the hottest NFL headlines as the regular season wraps up and the Super Bowl approaches. The episode centers on Shedeur Sanders' controversial Pro Bowl selection, the evolving significance of the Pro Bowl, creative coaching hires (particularly the Eagles’ choice of offensive coordinator), and accountability at the highest level—think Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills. With their trademark blend of trash talk, player insight, and storytelling, the hosts provide a deeply candid, player-focused breakdown of league news and culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Shedeur Sanders’ Pro Bowl Selection and Haters’ Reactions

• [00:30-05:00]
  • Shedeur Sanders is announced as a Pro Bowl alternate, sparking controversy over whether he truly "deserved" the spot.
  • Uncle Ocho’s skepticism:

    “As much as I love Shedeur Sanders, there are many others that should have gotten that opportunity to go.” (02:09)

  • The hosts acknowledge that with fan votes and so many original picks opting out, alternates making the Pro Bowl isn’t unusual.
  • Shannon Sharpe reminisces about when the Pro Bowl "meant something", contrasting today’s apathy toward participating.
  • The Pro Bowl used to be a coveted honor and real “vacation” in Hawaii; now, stars opt out easily and it lacks the former cachet.
  • Shannon Sharpe:

    “When it’s all said and done, [Shedeur] will be a one-time Pro Bowl player. How he got there is unimportant...no one’s gonna remember he was an alternate.” (05:46)

2. Evolution & Prestige of the Pro Bowl

• [05:00-16:00]
  • Nostalgia for the old Pro Bowl: Both reminisce about playing hard in Hawaii, getting to know players' families, and the "badge of honor," contrasting the competitiveness and meaning with today’s watered-down experience.
  • Discussion on whether skills competitions and the new "flag game" can ever compare to the old format (“now they play flag, that’s why I propose...let older players go against younger generation for the fans... just have fun.” – Ocho, 08:44).
  • Recognition that making the All-Madden team was an even bigger honor in that era:

    “Everybody wanted to make All-Madden. He actually had to see you play. That was an honor to have to have John Madden and you.” – Shannon Sharpe (09:55)

  • Sharpe personalizes it, recalling when he was snubbed as an alternate, but points out that “in 25, 30 years, nobody will remember” the details—Sanders is a Pro Bowler, period.
  • Uncle Ocho's perspective:

    “No matter what, no matter how you feel, you got to put 'Pro Bowl' in front of that name before you say it…” (12:58)

3. Drake May’s Injury Status Before Super Bowl

• [18:36-21:24]
  • Report: Patriots rookie QB Drake May is "limited" with a shoulder injury.
  • Ocho’s reality check: “Ain’t nobody 100% unless you ain’t played all season.” (20:08)
  • Both agree there’s likely gamesmanship in injury reporting; Super Bowl QBs will do whatever it takes to be ready, including painkillers.
  • Real talk about shooting up injuries before big games:

    "You can shoot anything up, Joe!" – Uncle Ocho (20:57)

4. Buffalo Bills: Keon Coleman’s Future and Joe Brady’s Confidence

• [21:24-23:41]
  • New Bills head coach Joe Brady vocally supports WR Keon Coleman, saying Coleman’s "gonna be a Buffalo Bill."
  • Ocho’s takeaway: “That reassurance from the head coach, I know that gotta have Keon feeling good... Now you got to do your job.” (22:05)
  • They hype up Coleman’s “money year” and the mentality needed to make a leap in Year 3. Emphasis on putting in off-season work before training camp—“second nature” needs to be achieved before returning to X’s and O’s.

5. Philadelphia Eagles’ OC Hire: Sean Manning

• [24:07-34:07]
  • Eagles hire Sean Manning (ex-Packers QB coach, short on experience) to revamp their offense.
  • Ocho’s take:

    “What the offense needs in Philadelphia is a little bit of creativity... they’re too predictable.” (24:54)

  • Sharpe’s focus: The offense needs to “open up the playbook” and let Jalen Hurts be more of a ‘quarterback’—more improvisation, less training wheels.
  • Concerns over lack of trust in Hurts, as “when you call plays, a player knows if you really have confidence in him.” (26:57)
  • Discussion of how a creative OC can help even if the running game falters—“just add some seasoning to the recipe!” (32:00)
  • Both believe the right scheme can unlock the offense, citing examples from McVay, Kubiak, and others to “scheme guys open.”

6. Accountability for Coaches & Quarterbacks: Josh Allen and the Bills

• [37:30-42:52]
  • Josh Allen accepts responsibility for Sean McDermott’s firing—if he’d made “one more play,” things would be different.
  • Sharpe’s lesson: It’s hard to play “what if,” but in the NFL, one swing moment can rewrite the narrative (referencing historic championship games).
  • The hosts note that accountability and leadership matter, but also recognize that greats like Joe Montana and Tom Brady have turnovers; the difference is seizing the “moment.”
  • Allen’s missed throw is highlighted—“not a difficult throw, just had to make it” (46:38)—and how, if Allen had hit it, “nobody would talk about the turnovers.”

7. Hall of Fame Talk: Eli Manning’s Snub and What It Means

• [49:51-54:50]
  • Eli Manning misses Hall of Fame induction for the second time.
    Ocho agrees:

    “I think it’s the right call. He’s going to get in.” (51:13)

  • Sharpe runs down how subjective the process is—“after they made DT wait five times, I don’t know what a Hall of Famer is.” (52:18)
  • Both reminisce that Hall of Fame wasn’t their goal when they started playing; it was only much later it even crossed their minds.

8. Closing Banter, Trash-Talk, and Player Camaraderie

• [54:50-End]
  • The remaining segment becomes a back-and-forth of playful trash talk about competition outside football—golf, dice, ping pong, pool, etc.
  • The chemistry and energy between Ocho, Sharpe and Joe are on full display, riffing on classic sports rituals and “putting too much dip on your chip.”
  • Memorable zinger:

    “I’m the original trash talker, how y’all gonna out talk me?” – Uncle Ocho (60:09)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Pro Bowl’s devaluation:

  “It used to mean something to go to the Pro Bowl... now everybody opts out... I wish the NFL would go back to that.” – Shannon Sharpe (03:51)

• On alternate selections:

  “Nobody’s going to remember... that he was an alternate. They’re just gonna remember Shador made a Pro Bowl.” – Shannon Sharpe (05:46)

• On accountability:

  "All the turnovers would have been forgotten if he makes that one throw... sometimes it's two or three plays that really determine the outcome." – Shannon Sharpe (42:30)

• On coaching confidence:

  “When you call plays, a player knows, like damn, they really don't think I can do but X, Y, and Z... Do they got confidence in me?” – Shannon Sharpe (26:57)

• On playmaking and creativity:

  “Sometimes, we pay you $20 million, you just gotta go get the F open… I can’t scheme you open every play.” – Shannon Sharpe (32:19)

• On Hall of Fame ambition:

  “When I came in, I just… wanted to show I belonged. The Hall of Fame never came on my radar until Mark Kis said, ‘You’re gonna be a Hall of Fame candidate.’” – Shannon Sharpe (53:15)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:30 – News of Shedeur Sanders’ Pro Bowl selection
• 02:09 – Ocho and Sharpe debate whether Sanders “deserved” the honor
• 05:46 – Sharpe: “How you get in the Pro Bowl doesn't matter—it's on the resumé”
• 08:44 – Nostalgia for old school Pro Bowl; suggestions for legends vs. current stars
• 12:58 – Ocho: “No matter how you feel...you got to put Pro Bowl in front of that name”
• 20:08 – Drake May’s injury discussion before the Super Bowl
• 24:54 – Ocho critiques Eagles’ OC hire: “What they need in Philly is creativity”
• 26:57 – Sharpe: “You gotta open up the damn playbook…let Hurts be a quarterback”
• 32:00 – Ocho’s analogy: “Add seasoning to your food, that’s all I’m asking the Eagles’ offense to do”
• 42:30 – Discussion about Josh Allen’s accountability for the Bills’ season and McDermott’s firing
• 51:13 – Eli Manning’s Hall of Fame snub and Hall selection process
• 53:15 – Hosts reminisce about their own Hall ambitions (or lack thereof)
• 54:50-end – Trash talk and camaraderie: “I’m the original trash talker…”

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Tone, Style & Final Thoughts

The episode is candid, fiery, and full of authenticity—the unique space where former players speak honestly about the league and its culture, past and present. Sharpe and Ocho don’t hold back, delivering criticism, encouragement, and nostalgia in equal measure. The episode is as much about the vibrancy of pro football as it is about the details—balancing "Let’s keep it real" player talk with sharp insight into the NFL's shifting culture.

Perfect listen for: Fans who want to know what really matters to players, how league dynamics play out behind the scenes, and who enjoy playful, expert banter only legends can provide.

Transcript

[Joe]

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[Uncle Ocho]

Obviously a lot of people upset. A lot of people are saying that Shador Sanders didn't deserve this. Obviously when you look at the stick the stats statistically there are so many other suitors that that could have gone to the Pro Bowl. Honestly Unk, this is one that is a bit confusing to me. As much as I love Shador Sanders, there are many others that should have gotten that opportunity to go. I am happy that he's been awarded and afforded the opportunity to go to the Pro bowl in his first year. But maybe you can clarify and give me a little bit, a little bit more clarity as to why the other players who had better season statistically than Ghost.

[Joe]

Mainly a Trevor Lawrence. Is that the name you want to throw out there?

[Uncle Ocho]

I was getting ready to say Trevor Lawrence. So I mean, can you explain to me you might be able to, to help me understand a little better.

[Joe]

Maybe, Obviously, Ocho, maybe it's a situation where the fan vote, there's like, because you got to think about it, Ocho, they're down to like, they're the six or seven alternate. The Pro bowl does not have the same recognition that it once did. It used to mean something to go to the Pro Bowl. It used to mean something. And when you look at that ball and you see all those names, you saw the Elways and the Marinos and, and the Tom Brady's and, and the Peyton Mannings and the guys, like I said, they, it wasn't like a regular season game, but guys cared. There was none of this two hand touch and, and, and yo, I, I, I've read some of the comments. He didn't deserve to go. It happens. He's not the first alternate to ever make the Pro Bowl. He's not, he's not gonna be the last alternate to make the Pro Bowl. We saw Ocho, remember, we saw Huntley just a few years ago, make it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes.

[Joe]

Because every, nobody, nobody really wanted to go. It doesn't, I mean, first of all, I don't know where, where it's gonna be. It's in San Francisco this year. Because it used to be Ocho. It used to mean something. You go into Hawaii, you get a vacation. You get to take your wife to Hawaii, your girlfriend, your family, get the tag along. It meant something to go across the water to break bread. You're drinking the mas. The Blue Hawaiians. It normally meant something. It doesn't have the same cache, but congratulations to Shador and, and like I said, Patrick Mahomes was hurt. Bo n is hurt. I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure the other names would have gone not, not at, at that far down as an alter. I don't think Lamar is going. I don't. There's a great chance that they reached out to these guys and they're like, nah, I'm good. Aaron Rodgers, like, nah, nah. Yeah, I don't, I don't need that trip. Lamar is like, no, I got other things to do. So I think the thing is that the other guys, Lamar, Joe, Aaron Rodgers, probably Trevor Lawrence, they probably, I mean.

[Uncle Ocho]

Listen, if it was like it was back in the day when we were playing actually, and it actually meant much more to go to the Pro bowl, the achievement of making the Pro bowl, it was unbelievable. You understand? This is a real trip, a real treat that you get to go. You gotta fly 10 hours. I don't care where you live, it's a 10 hour flight. Your family goes and you there all week and you really played. There was no bull jab, it was no shucking and jiving. You enjoy those first three quarters. When we get to that fourth quarter, it's time to tighten up and we got to play ball. It's time to turn up and we, we playing ball. So I mean, it's different now. Obviously the game has evolved. The, the players also trying to protect themselves, especially if you're in a contract year, they don't want to get hurt. But hey, hey. Nope, man, it was, hey, oh my goodness, you remember that.

[Joe]

What I don't like about it now, Ocho, that was also the time that the team that won the super bowl, that got an opportunity to come over to the Pro bowl and everybody pat him on the back, man, congratulations. Hell of a job, man. I was rooting for you X, Y and Z. Now you, I mean there are some players that's gonna, I mean, you and I, I get it. Like I said, it's not. You still, that's still on your resume. So no matter what you think, Shador Sanders, whether he makes another one or not, when it's all said and done, he'll be a one time Pro bowl player. So how he got there is unimportant. Nobody's going to remember 5 years, 10 years, 15, 20, 30 years from now that he was an alternate and got selected to the Pro Bowl. But I love the fact that after, you know, I was very fortunate to win a couple of Super Bowls and was a Pro bowl player at that time and, and got an opportunity to go over and receive my congratulations and receive that, you know, Darrell Green and a lot of Ray Brown and the guys like, hey man, sign this champ. And you got an opportunity to put those Roman numerals up there. It meant something, it really did. And I wish the NFL would go back to that and let these guys that make the, that, that, that made the Pro bowl, that are in the super bowl, they get an opportunity to go because they, they get an opportunity to go frat knives and see some of the guys A lot of the guys you only see in passing, oh, you play against them and that's it. But you get an opportunity to meet people's family. You take people pictures with people, wives and kids and their father in laws and things of that nature. So it's, it's a huge honor. But congratulations, Shador. Look, no matter what, people going to be upset about it. He didn't deserve to go, but they had to have somebody else and it seems like these other guys weren't interested in it. So I mean what do you want them to do? Just send two guys? Hey, Justin Herbert could have easily opted out because he had surgery on his non throwing hand. But I guess for what he's need to do, it's not going to, I don't think it's going to be, it's going to inhibit anything that he's going to do as far as throwing the football because he's just going to be throwing, running around trying to throw the ball in the hoop or hit, hit a mute, a moving target. So I, I don't, I don't really have a problem with this. The only thing I wish is that I just wish the guys took it a little bit more serious and it didn't have to come to this. That they ended up cutting it out and then making a skills competition because it used to mean and don't tell me this. Oh well. Oh well, no, because the guys played. The guys played for 50 years. 50 years old, Joe. They played. And now all of a sudden you mean to tell me, and I don't know what year it happened, but I remember it happening and I was like. Cause you remember the hit that Sean Taylor laid on the corner?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

I mean guys wouldn't clean your clock. I mean they, if you go guys like they let you come down. Yeah, guys wouldn't try, you know, guys wouldn't try to do level no crack back box blocks or anything like that. But the NFL did the only thing that they could if that which they had, they had to cut it out because guys wouldn't take it serious. And so NASA skills competition and I.

[Uncle Ocho]

Mean they got, they play the flag game and that, that's, that's why I propose, you know, my whole thing and obviously aren't there. I think there's, there's enough of the, the older players, the, the past players that there's, there's enough of us that, that are, are still in some somewhat shorter sort of shape and I just thought, I just thought, you know, it would be exciting if they knew ahead of time and preparing themselves to, to go against the younger generation. I think it would be fun because you're not out, man.

[Joe]

Ain't but two of y' all in shape, man. Ain't nobody still.

[Uncle Ocho]

But I'm just saying the fact that they're not playing for real, it's just, it's just to enjoy yourselves. I think it would be cool for the fans, you know, to be able to see the younger generation go against the older generation. Hey, we not going all out, but we just out there having a good time. So I, I just thought, I mean.

[Joe]

The only thing you possibly could do is have the quarterbacks to throw, but they would need to give, give them like six months to throw so their arm don't fall off after, after that Saturday.

[Uncle Ocho]

I mean, I don't know, I just thought it would be something really dope and something that, that you, you would never see a crossover like that unless you play Madden. So to be able to see it in real life, in real time, some of the former legends playing with some of the current, current stars today, it would be dope to see them share the field.

[Joe]

But hey, yeah, I ojo, you know, I don't know if you got an opportunity to make it, but it used to be the Pro Bowl. Look, the Pro bowl was an honor, but everybody wanted to make all Madden. They wanted to make the All Pro and then they wanted to make the Pro bowl because if you, if you made all Madden, he actually had to see you play. So that means you got the number one team, be it CBS or fox. So that's what that meant. You got the number one team. So that means John Madden and Pat Summerall, rest their soul, was seeing you play. And when you got that jacket or you got that trophy, that sweatshirt that, that they used to give you at first, Ocho. They gave you a trophy. The trophy had to weigh like 25 pounds. So they. I. I'm not bull driving. They gave you a trophy, they gave you a leather jacket, they gave you a sweatsuit, they gave you a sweatshirt and they gave you a T shirt. They cut the trophy out and then they gave you a leather jacket, a sweatshirt. I think I still got. I know I gave my last year. I made it my last year in Denver. I gave the. What did I give? I gave some. I gave, I think I gave House the jacket. I gave Chaka the, the, the hoodie. But that was, that was an honor to have, to have John Madden and you. We still got the Madden game and to have those Two call you laugh.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's dope now. Yeah, that's dope. That's dope.

[Joe]

But I still got, I still got the leather jackets. I still got. I made the biggest honor with me and my brother making it together. I think I got like four sweatshirts because I think I made it five times. I got four jackets and a sweatsuit. I don't know. I think I got a sweatsuit. My sister might have sweatsuit, you know, but congratulations. You do it. Look, everybody's not gonna be happy. I remember. Look, there are some times to hell I, I would have gone. Because I was the first alternate. Yeah, twice. My last, My first year in Baltimore. No, three times. My first, my, my first year in Baltimore, I was the first alternate. And my last two years in, in Denver, I was first alternate. Now I definitely should have made it. My first year in Baltimore. You can go check the stats of all the tight ends. Gonzo made it. Tony Gonzalez made it. Deservedly so. But you look, I should have been the second guy. I should have been there. And then my second year in Denver, behind Gonzo, again, I should have made it. But hey, eight times, I guess there's really nothing to be complaining, but eight times in 14 years, that's pretty good for a guy that went in the seventh round. But Shador, congratulations, that's on your resume now. It gives you something to strive to be one of those first three guys that get selected to the Pro Bowl. The be the fan vote, the coaches and the players. It's a huge honor. And like I said, 25, 30 years from now, everybody won't nobody remember that. He was an alter Bill. Looked like man. Shador made a Pro Bowl.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, listen, no, no matter what, no matter how you feel, un. You got to put Pro bowl in front of that name before you say it. No matter whether he was, whether he deserved it or not, whether the stats would have. Were were up the par for him to make it, the players before him chose not to go. Therefore, with, as far as the pecking order goes, he was next in line, so therefore he's a Pro Bowler.

[Joe]

Yeah, actually, I'm trying to think. I made the Pro Bowl. I made a Pro bowl, like, let's see, 96, I made it. 95. I, I, I made it like, damn near like five of my times, because I think prime went like eight, nine times, and I think 92, 93, 94. No, I didn't go 94. I made it, but I didn't go Eric Green. Eric Green was the alternate. I Looked at it like, okay, that looked good on his resume. He hit me up. Hey, dog, what's good? What's going on? I said, what? Hey, you know, I got this. You good to go?

[Uncle Ocho]

That's dope. That's laugh. That's laugh. Hey, that's very generous for you.

[Joe]

Hey, Ocho, that's what we used to do.

[Uncle Ocho]

Very generous.

[Joe]

You call up Chris Carter told the story. My brother. My brother had made it, and. And Chris was the alternate. And he like, man, your brother going to the Pro Bowl, I like. I mean, he ain't. He ain't loving it. I mean, if he go, it's only because I'm going. Hit my brother up. Brother say, hey. All of a sudden, my brother had an injury. Chris sent him a bottle.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right, right, right. That's. That's dope.

[Joe]

But that's. But, you know, somebody had incentives.

[Uncle Ocho]

Go get there. Most definitely. Most definitely.

[Joe]

Yeah, for sure. Sean Mar said, I have pro helmet that I walk past every day. It's signed by some of the best players in NFL history. Legends, hall of famers, and real goats. The proo used to be a badge of honor and respected. Things have changed. Dave said, you sound like a. A little be. A little be. Been hanging around your dad too much. My bad.

[Uncle Ocho]

It was a random.

[Joe]

Okay, okay. Sh. That was Sean Merriman. Then somebody tweeted, re. Tweeted back at him, and then that was Sean response.

[Uncle Ocho]

I mean, I. I mean, he's right. He's right. I mean, that era of football, obviously I played against Sean Marman, made the Pro bowl with him as well. I mean, it was different. Huh? And the game. The game has evolved. I mean, the. The meaning of the Pro bowl has changed tremendously. I don't think players in today's era will understand what it meant to fly and take that 10 hour flight with your family and see some of the people and meet some. Meet some of their kids and their wives and sit seeing some of the coaches that some of the players bought and just. I mean, it was dope. It was dope. I mean, enjoying the island, enjoying the people, enjoying the culture in general, you know, throughout the entirety of the week, it was different. It was different. And standing at the Ihelani with that goddamn French toast, I still don't know what. I don't. I don't know if it was a French tofu or whether it was a syrup at the Ihalani out in Hawaii, but. Oh, my goodness, it's the. To this day, there's only been one place I Don't mean to veer off track. There's only been one place where I've had French toast as good as the French to in the Alani at that. At that hotel, and that's at a restaurant in Montreal called LA Avenue. Oh, oh, my goodness. The.

[Joe]

They got a restaurant in. I think I said ash, the thing on. On ig. They got a restaurant in. In New York that we got to go try to pay cakes there.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's good.

[Joe]

Yeah, I'm a pancakes guy. All things being equal, I'd rather have pancakes. Thank you. But I'll go pancakes, French toast.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Waffles for me. That would be my choice. Okay. I mean, some people like French toast, some people like waffles, some people like pancakes, but I'm a pancakes French toast waffle guy. I like it, but it is. But congratulations. Your door. Look, everybody ain't gonna be happy, but it is what it is. Paramount plus is the new home of UFC and the New Era comes out swinging with UFC 324 on January 24th. In the main event, the highlight machine Justin Gaethje faces off against Paddy the Baddie Pimblet for the interim lightweight belt. Plus Sean Suga o' Malley takes on Song Yudong in a stand up war filled with high level striking. Catch all the action from the Octagon and stream UFC 324 live at 9pm Eastern on Paramount pay per view. Just got knocked out. Stream every numbered event and Fight Night Live at no additional cost. With your Paramount plus subscription, you can also watch pre fight docu series, full length replays, archive fights from years past and more. It's time to say goodbye to pay per view and hello to Paramount Plus. Visit paramountplus.com UFC to get started.

[Uncle Ocho]

We're lost.

[Joe]

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[Uncle Ocho]

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[Joe]

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[Uncle Ocho]

N Absolutely. You know, going to the Super Bowl Joe this end of the season, everybody knit. Who the hell is the hunter? Who the hell ain't nobody 100 if you play unless you ain't play all season long.

[Joe]

But you're throwing. What's your throwing arm though?

[Uncle Ocho]

Is it throwing on the man?

[Joe]

How many passes did he throw? How many passes did he throw Sunday? So when did he hurt this throwing shoulder? Because I don't remember it being on the injury report. So he didn't throw a whole lot and yeah, he got sacked, but a lot of them would like they landed on top of him. That's a little gamesmanship and all that stuff and is just like Sam Dar. Remember Sam Darnold? That oblique? He ain't been practicing. He really worried he might not.

[Uncle Ocho]

He, he might not play. He went out.

[Joe]

Hey, Sam. Hey. Hey, that throwing arm. No, you can't shoot that up though and go out there because you don't want that numb, right? Hell yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

You shoot anything up, Joe. You can shoot anything up, Joe.

[Joe]

I'm thinking, cuz they, the only thing they don't really shoot up is knees, but ankles, shoulders, ribs.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, you won't, you won't feel the pain, Joe. You don't want to feel the pain when you, when you, when you throw it, when you throw that thing, that motion going forward. But after the game, boy, when that adrenaline didn't go down or wear off, boy, may God be with you.

[Joe]

New Buffalo Bills head coach Joe Brady expressed his support for Keon Coleman, stated that Keon is going to be a Buffalo Bill. I told Keon when I got hired, the best thing to happen to Keon Coleman was, was me being his head coach. I was the one that stood on the table for Keon Coleman. I believe in Keon Coleman. Brady said that 2025 was a learning year for Coleman, adding that the Bills had put. Put the team first in a lot of the elements. He's going to continue to grow, but the elements that we saw in the draft process, the confidence that I have in him and his ability and as long as he's handling what he needs to handle off the field, I have no doubt that he's going to be successful. Successful on the field.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I like it. I like it. Not that. That reassurance from, from the head coach, I know that that got. They got to have Keon feeling good. They got to have him feeling good despite what he heard just a week or two weeks ago from them other folks. It doesn't matter. Your head coach says he believes in you. Your head coach says he believes in you publicly. Right now you got to do your job now. You got to do what's necessary to make sure when you do go back into that building, you, you do everything in your power. When you do get back, how do I make everyone else's job around me easy so you don't have to worry about me? Now you in a position of power where now they can count on you.

[Joe]

Absolutely.

[Uncle Ocho]

When they can count on you now the rabbit. Now you got the gun. Now you got the gun. That's all it comes down to. So I done talked to Keon, Unc. You know, we gonna be down here working this off season. Matter of fact, I ain't even worried about it no more. I ain't worried about it no, Joe. All I need him for. I need him for a month, Joe.

[Joe]

That's it. You're going into his third year. This car, This a year. This is money. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey. This money here, Joe.

[Joe]

So you know you're gonna get the best out of him, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

This money, Joe, it all start right up here.

[Joe]

Yeah. And no. And knowing that the head coach got your back, see, he.

[Uncle Ocho]

Wow.

[Joe]

He wowed them folks in his. In his. In his draft meetings. You know what I mean? Like, they. I seen it everywhere. That's all they was talking about. Yeah, but. Yeah, I'm with you, man. He gotta. He gotta come back next year, bro. He gotta be a whole different player. His demeanor gotta be different. He gotta come ready to work. Contract. Yeah. Try to get some of that money on.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, but see, the funny thing about it is, once you get back, all the work has to be already put in, Right? The work gotta be put in in the off season. Cause when you get back, you. It ain't nothing but X's nose. So your game and everything about playing receiver got to be on board.

[Joe]

Second nature.

[Uncle Ocho]

Second nature.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

I can't. But I can't wait.

[Joe]

The Eagles are hiring Sean Manning as the offensive coordinator. Manning has coached the last two. Has just coached. Has coached for just two years, breaking in as an offensive assistant the packers in 2024 before being promoted to the quarterbacks coach last season. This past season, he worked with Jordan Love, who completed 66 of his throws. 3, 381 yards with 23 touchdowns and six interceptions. A former quarterback out of Oregon State, Manning spent nine seasons in the NFL with four different. With four different teams, including with the Rams, who drafted him in the third round. He learned from coaches such as Sean McVeigh, Clint Kubiak, and Shane Waldron during his playing days. Ocho, do you like this hire?

[Uncle Ocho]

You know what? I'm gonna be honest with you. I like the hiring, but I don't like the fact that I didn't get the opportunity to interview for the Office of Coordinated Job for the Eagles. I know what they need. What they need is creativity. Now, where coach is coming from under that umbrella tree with Kubiak and goddamn Sean McVeigh, I think it could be good what the offense needs in Philadelphia is a little bit of creativity.

[Joe]

I agree.

[Uncle Ocho]

They're too predictable, you know, I mean, you. We talk about it all the time, Joe. Knowing what routes are being run based on receivers alignment. I mean, just, you know, no creativity at all. I think if he's able to bring some of that and open up, open up what Jalen Hurts is already able to do and add something else to his game, I think they gonna be all right.

[Joe]

You like it? You like it, Joe? I don't really know, to be honest with you, Uncle Ocho. I don't really know much about the coach, but I. I think I want to just see more from the quarterback. Jalen hurts, you know, just improvising a little more. Uncle Ocho getting outside the pocket, making plays and throwing dodge, bro. I think he got it in him. I think he second guesses himself quite a bit. But the Eagles, they definitely got a nice squad, man. They can get back on track and get back to playing championship ball. But I think it's going to come down to quarterback play, man. Him getting outside his comfort zone and being a playmate.

[Uncle Ocho]

I like that, too.

[Joe]

Go ahead.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know what? Just to piggyback on what Joe was talking about, I would love to see Jalen be able to do a little bit more. Some of the things people say he can do, especially when the running guy, the running game is stifled as it was last year. I would love to see him be a pocket passer. I would love him to see. Obviously the offense wasn't predicated on him having to do anything outside of what they call, but I would love them to add a little bit more on his plate, give him a little bit more so we can see him develop more as a pocket passer outside of what he normally does.

[Joe]

I like it. I think the thing for me, oo is that you said they need to open up the playbook and allow Jalen Hurst to be more of a quarterback. I think the thing sometimes is that when you call plays, you can. A player knows like, damn, they really don't think I can do but X, Y and Z. And so by doing that, you like, damn, do. They got confidence in me because they call in plays as if they don't have confidence in me because somebody that calls plays, they allow me the freedom, the latitude to do a lot of things. And this offense, really, I don't know if this offense allows. Jalen Hurts to do a lot of the things that he could potentially do. And especially now at this stage of his career, his sixth or seventh year in the league. Ocho, you got to open the damn playbook up. You got to let him be able to go to the line and change plays on his own. He's not a first or second year quarterback. You don't have to keep the training wheels off. On, on, excuse me, on for perpetuity, allow him to be a quarterback. He's gone to two Super Bowls, he's won elite, he's won a Super bowl mvp. That should be enough. That should say, you know what? I have faith in this young man. I'm going to take the wheel, I'm going to take the guardrails off. I'm going to allow him to be what I believe he can be. I just think the thing is when you call plays for a significant amount of time and you don't open it up, the player starts to feel that you don't have confidence in him. And then when you don't have confidence in him, I don't care what you hear. A lot of people say, you just need that one person to believe in you. The one person. And some. And maybe that's this offensive coordinator. Now he's very new. Oo he started out as an offensive system assistant. He became a, a quarterbacks coach last year. And Jaylen, and Jaylen her Jordan Love had a really good season. He got nicked and didn't have the type of season that you know, you would hope had. Got out to a great start, start against Chicago, but they end up faltering late in that ball game. But I like this hire. Maybe look Green Bay and in the west coast system and I think there's a misnomer. They still want to run the football but they do so much more off of it than what the Eagles were doing. And I think the thing is with Jalen hurts legs. I think he does a great job. Yeah, he's strong. He can squat 600 pounds, but I think he does a great job of getting out of bounds. I think he does a great job of getting down and not test, not taking unnecessary punishment. Now look, sometimes you're going to have to on third and one. Oo, fourth and one. You're going to have to lower your head, you're going to have to get that extra yard. But for the most, for the most part, he does a great job of taking care of himself. I, I, I like this hire. I like it. I do.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe]

Huh? You got it.

[Uncle Ocho]

I done messed up my camera. Hold on.

[Joe]

Well, I don't know what this, I don't know what he doing. Hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

Huh.

[Joe]

But the Saquon, the running back. Hey man, I don't know what happened, but it seemed like one year made a huge difference because I think when he's dominant, when he's dominant like he was a year a year ago, I think it's a lot easier for Jayla. It is back there as well. Yeah, but, but, but the fact that I, I think, you know, he was decent this year, but he wasn't what he was. No, you're right, Joe. I think that he's the, the, the, the, the way you help the quarterback the most is run the football. They made a teams made a conscious effort to stop Saquon Barkley. The offensive line was beat up a lot. Also Dick's Dickinson had surgery right before the season. Jurgensen had surgery if I'm not mistaken, in the off season. He wasn't totally healthy. The right guard, they didn't really find an adequate replacement for Maai Beckton and, and you saw Lane Johnson go out. He was in and out and he was dealing with injury. So the offensive line as we knew it the previous year wasn't even close to what it was. Now you're going to get lame back. Hopefully Dick Dickinson doesn't have to get surgery. Jurgenson doesn't have to get surgery. They be able to not train instead of rehab. So that should, that should help Saquan a lot more. That should help this offense a lot more. Because when they run, when Saquan was running crazy. Now all Jaylen Hurst does stick the ball out to Saquan and pull it back. Now you got Devonte, now you got A.J. you got Godard and those guys running scot free. So that's definitely a, a, A plus when you can run the football. Go ahead. Oo absolutely.

[Uncle Ocho]

Listen, I, I, but I, I want, I want them to evolve when they're not able to run the ball. I need the creativity, I need the schemes. I need the different formations I need the most.

[Joe]

Hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Yes. They're putting A.J. brown in the backfield, putting Devontae Smith in the backfield. Some of the things you see them do with Puka Nakua, some of the things you see them do with jsn. You can bring that same type of creativity or a similar style to west coast offense without really taking away from what you actually do. Just adding, adding sauce to it. When you got. Damn, Joe. When you cook food, Joe.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

You add seasoning to your food, Joe. That's all I'm asking the Eagles offense to do. The new offensive Coordinator to do. You already got your recipe right. Add a little seasoning to it, change it up a little bit. So when you get in situations where the running game is not working, you're still able to operate in other ways. That's all.

[Joe]

Hey, Uncle Ocho, I think for me, you know, when you look at it as players, it's only so much the coaching staff can do, man. Yeah, you know, we get in between those lines as athletes. We the ones got to improvise and make plays at the end of the day, you know what I mean? So as much as the coaches help, when you get out there in between those lines, man, it's got to come out of you, you know what I mean? Like, you got to be a playmaker. You got to make things happen. I think the thing is, and last year, they didn't really have a guy that could scheme guys open. Yeah, sometimes it comes down to talent, and sometimes I have to call to play Ocho, and I just say, ocho, you got to go beat this guy. I ain't got nothing creative. I ain't got nothing exotic. I'm not stacking anybody. I'm not putting anybody in motion. I'm not putting, you know, I'm not doing anything like that. You see? You see what Clint Kubiak did? He put JSN in the backfield. He slips him out, he runs the 7 route. The backers get confused. They go one way, and next thing you know, he's wide open for a touchdown. Or you see what Sean McVeigh does in that situation where he does it with puka, and he gets guys open, he gets Devonte open at some point in time. I can't scheme you open, son. Sometimes we play $20 million. You. You just got to go get the F open. That's what it comes down to. You just got to go get open sometimes. Now, I'm going to always try to put you in the best situation, but sometimes it's you versus him. You want it more. Now, look, I can't make a living oo running 15 digs and four outs and three goals on the left side. I've got to get more creative than that. I just do. I agree. So I like to hire. I, I know, I, I, I don't know how well he'll do, but I remember him coming out of Oregon State. Ocho, that's your, that's your alumni. That's your brethren.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, that day. That's my alum. That's my alum. That. Yeah, I like him. Listen, when you, when you mention him coming under from that umbrella tree with Kubiak and Sean McVay, I'm sure he's gonna bring some of that sauce with him. He got to, you got to. Because them Eagles fans, the Migos fan, they don't play.

[Joe]

Yeah, they kind of got spoiled. You know, you had, you had Kellen Moore for a year, Ocho in his first year there. You go to the super bowl, you win the super bowl, they look dominant, they look really good. And the only time they seem to be challenging the postseason was get the Rams. And the Rams had a throw in the end zone and, you know, and the guy, he kind of dropped it. The guy made a great play on it, but other than that, they ran through everybody else that was in the postseason. Kelly Moore parlayed that, got a head coaching job at the Saints. Best of luck to him. He's done a great job. But you, you take, you take, you take for granted. And you think just because, well, they got the same talent. But no, everybody doesn't have the same mindset. Everybody doesn't have the same IQ to call certain plays and down and distance and area of the field. So Kellen Moore is great at that. You saw what he was doing in Dallas. They were the second highest scoring team. Dak was, you know, throwing for 4,000 yards, routinely having great season. They just couldn't get over the hump. The defense let him down some and when the deep, when the offense faltered, the defense couldn't bail them out. And with the defense and offense made one mistake, it was pretty much over because everybody was just going up and down the field. But I think, I think Manning Paramount plus is the new home of UFC and the new era comes out swinging with UFC 324 on January 24th. In the main event highlight machine, Justin Gaethje faces off against Paddy the Baddie Pimblett for the interim lightweight belt. Plus Sean Suga o' Malley takes on Song Yudong in a stand up war filled with high level striking. Catch all the action from the Octagon and stream UFC 324 live at 9pm Eastern on Paramount at pay per view. Just got knocked out. Stream every numbered event and Fight Night Live at no additional cost. With your Paramount subscription, you can also watch pre fight docuseries, full length replays, archive fights from years past and more. It's time to say goodbye to pay per View and hello to Paramount. Visit paramountplus.com UFC to get started.

[Uncle Ocho]

We're lost.

[Joe]

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[Uncle Ocho]

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[Joe]

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[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. And it's funny. And, and Joe, this is probably why I'm not a gm, probably why I'm not an owner, because they were always making it to the playoffs. To me, even though that's, that's, that's not where you want to be, but the fact that they're one of the few teams that would be in contention every year. So if we not making a Super bowl, but we right there, and knowing Coach McDermott is my head coach, one of these, one of these years, we gonna get over that hump. We gonna get over that hump. So now you change the head coach, but obviously you didn't go out, you didn't go back, and you didn't go out and get anybody new. You just, you. You have Joe Brady who was already there. So I'm. I'm assuming even still they're probably going to get there and it's all going to come down to Josh Allen and what he does in the postseason yet.

[Joe]

Absolutely. It. And it normally, it always does. That's why he makes the Most money. That's why more times than not, that's the guy. That's the face of your franchise. So when that guy plays well, you see Drake May, he made. He made. He made a few more plays than what Jerry Skittle made. You see Sam Darnold, he made a few more play. And that's what it comes down to in those big moments like that, Joe. It comes down to that. You. Hey, you want the ball in your best player's hand. Basketball, you want the ball in your best player's hand. Now, if we can force it out of your best player's hand, if we can make an auxiliary, your second, third or fourth best player, take that shot, I can live with it if he makes it. I. I just can't deal with it if your best guy takes and makes that shot. Right, right, right. I. I think with Josh Allen, obviously, Uncle Ocho, y' all know his competitors, man, when you have a. When you in the playoffs and you have a game the way he did, what, he had five turnovers. He had four turnovers. They had five total turnovers. Yeah. And. Yeah, so I like the accountability that he took. Cause, you know, it hurts going into the summer, Uncle Ocho, you gotta deal with that pain. You. And you keep replaying it in your head. Man, if I could have just had maybe one turnover versus four or five, you know, maybe we could still be playing. So I understand that part, because you don't get a chance to get that back till you start back playing. You know what I mean? And plus, Ocho, we talk about the turnovers. He missed a throw that would have won him the game. He had the tight end on the far cross. Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

He missed it in the end zone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he rushed it, too.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

There was no need to rush it.

[Joe]

And that. And that's the thing. Not only did he have the four turnovers, all the turnovers would have been forgotten. If he makes that one throw, makes that, that one, and sometimes we talk about it. It's two or three plays that really determine the outcome of the game.

[Uncle Ocho]

The outcome of the game. Yeah.

[Joe]

You hit that throw, you turn the ball over four times. Ain't nobody talking about those four turnovers.

[Uncle Ocho]

Because you. You'll be playing. You'll be playing next weekend.

[Joe]

Everybody talk. Yeah. I give you a prime example. Go back and look up that championship game, the catch by Joe Montana. See how many turnovers he had in that game. Go look it up. What do you have, Four or five turnovers. But don't nobody remember Joe had that many. I watched the game. I know how many. Go back and see how many had. Does anybody mention the turnovers that he had in the NFC Championship game? Oh, Joe, Joe. All they talk about was what the catch.

[Uncle Ocho]

The catch. That throw.

[Joe]

And really and truly, he said, I was trying to throw it away because I needed to get it over a too tall who's six foot eight. Six foot eight, six foot nine.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So it doesn't matter how bad you play. All that goes away if you make one play. What, what did Joe end up? I think he had three interceptions and a fumble. It's the 81 championship, And that was the end of the Cowboys. I'm sorry, Joe, come on, chill. You got chill. Come on now. But, and we we've seen Tom have a couple of turnovers early. We've seen great quarterbacks have turnovers early, but we only remember the good. Right? You find it. It's. And so all that, Everything Josh said is true. He knows, he knows if he plays well, they win that game. And Sean McDermott is still okay. See, don't nobody remember that, though, unless you watch the game. Right? How many, how many have three picks and a fumble. Damn. But everybody remember to throw the catch.

[Uncle Ocho]

Who is, who is that tight end, number 87?

[Joe]

Dwight Clark was a wide receiver. Rest his souls. He's passed away. I think he had, I think he had Luke Gary Clark.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, okay. Oh, Dwight.

[Joe]

Yeah, they had Dwight Clark, Freddie Solomon. I think that that was the year they ended up playing Cincinnati in 81 in Detroit.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, we should have won that game.

[Joe]

Erroll Cooper. And then guess what? Y' all played him again in the 88oo.

[Uncle Ocho]

We should have won that game.

[Joe]

Lewis Billups had the, had the game one. He dropped the pick. Remember, that was the game. Jerry goes for 200.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, Jerry.

[Joe]

49Ers as a team turned the ball over six times. We don't remember that. We don't remember that. And still they won the game. Damn. Because why Ocho that throw. And they went on and won the super bowl, so ain't nobody talking about no turnovers. Right? But, but Josh, I, I love the fact that he's like, look, I got to bear a lot of responsibility on this. You know me, I, I, I've got to take better care of the football. And when the opportunity presents itself, I've got to make that throw. Josh Allen too good not to make that throw. That's not a difficult throw. That's not a, that's not an Eli Manning. Demario Manningham Throw, Ocho. Yeah, that's not that kind of throw.

[Uncle Ocho]

It was simple. It seemed like. I'm not sure why he.

[Joe]

I don't know either.

[Uncle Ocho]

He had no pressure, and the tight end weren't wide open. He. I'm talking about, hey, Joe, the tight end, he might have been too open. Too open. He's just sitting there chilling. That would have been an easy, easy.

[Joe]

It's just up. That is not a drop in the bucket because they're the underneath guy. But the bad guy was trailing. Tight end had done came clean. He had split. He had in between the both of them, lot of space, and he overshot him.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe]

Well. So we'll see if Joe Brady is the right guy. Is the right guy. I think he has. I think he has a couple of years to get this thing turned around. They probably. They need some. They need a one if. If A.J. brown is available. You got to go get him. You gotta go get him. Oh, you got to. And you definitely need to let him go, huh? I know, I know they. It's been a little disgruntled over there in Philly with A.J. brown, but, man, you let him go, what you gonna get in return, Uncle Ocho? You take. You take. You take the draft capital. Because sometimes, Sometimes, Ocho, look, I. I think I. I think for me, just listening to AJ Talk, even after. Even after being, what, a second team All Pro, even after making a Pro bowl, winning the super bowl, he like, right. I don't feel what I thought I would feel. So I don't know what's going to make him happy. So at that point in time, and then ask you now, maybe, hey, he. He's like, you know what? It ain't gonna be better anywhere else. Blah, blah, blah. And he. He says, I want to stay. But I think the thing is now considering how. How it ended, I. I think I think it's best for the Eagles to go their way and AJ to go his.

[Uncle Ocho]

I told you. See, I told y. Told you. Told you. I. I can see it now. You know, on one side, Keon Coleman. On the other, you know, hey, Joe, I'm gonna get Keon, right? This off season, come back with a whole. A whole different mentality. That's all it come down to up here. Get to get that out. Get that out your way, man. Shoot. Keon Coleman, AJ Brown, they're gonna be like Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, right? Yeah.

[Joe]

All right now.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. I'm telling. I'm telling you.

[Joe]

So we'll see what, what, what Buffalo does as Far as strangely what they do in the draft to, to finally be in a position, you know, hopefully you can get back to that position again. You get back to the playoffs or show and say. Because the thing is, ain't no guarantee you get back to the playoffs. And if you do, there ain't no guarantee you'll be in a more favorable position than what you were.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, man. And the chances of everybody being out and being hurt like they were this.

[Joe]

Year, the likely of that happening.

[Uncle Ocho]

These, these, this was your best chance. So next year, the year after, you're gonna have to run the gauntlet. Right? You gotta, you're gonna have to beat them boys.

[Joe]

Eli Manning, Ocho will have to wait at least one more year. The two time super bowl winning MVP reportedly did not receive enough votes to the election into the Pro Football hall of fame is the second year of eligibility his career won. 17 wins, 117 losses and a substar passing stats to make it touch the job. A Hall of Fame resume you see a lot of times people just want to put all the credentials on. Oh, he was an mvp. He was a super. Hold on. So this is the second time he, he didn't got skipped. Wow. Yep. It's gonna be, it's tough because. Hold on. Jim Plunkett won two subos. He did number one overall draft pick in 1970 if I'm not mistaken. Look that up. I think Jim Plunk was 1970. He's still not in. I don't think, I know Jim Plunk is not in because I think Archie, I think Archie went second. I think Plunket was one. Archie was second in 1970. What you thinking? Oh, right. Call. Eli should be in. He should have to wait.

[Uncle Ocho]

I, I think, I think it's the right call. It's the right call.

[Joe]

He was drafted first overall.

[Uncle Ocho]

He's going to get in. Yeah.

[Joe]

He did. Ashley looking at me talking about what did he do in 1970. First of all, didn't Archie go second. With 71? Right, so 71. Him and Archie two. Hold up. How many times did Kurt want to have to wait? Because Kurt is a two time league mvp, an offensive player of the year, a Super bowl mvp and he had the three most passing yards in super bowl history before Tom broke him and he had to wait.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah. I mean they, they listen, they go, they gonna make Eli wait. He gonna get, he gonna get in.

[Joe]

Kurt had to win three times.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, he gonna, he gonna get in.

[Joe]

It's it Joe. I, I, I don't know. I don't like I said I used to. I. Like I said, after they made DT weight five times, I was like, I don't know what a Hall of Famer is. I don't, I don't. Because they switch it up. Johnny Randall had to wait. People. I know, people look at Johnny's antics and, you know, him, him talking trash and him, you know, grunting and doing all that stuff. He was hell. Johnny Randall was hell.

[Uncle Ocho]

He was the real deal.

[Joe]

Undecided. But Joe, he would kick it ass.

[Uncle Ocho]

You can go, yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, hey. When y' all got into the league, Uncle Ocho, was being in the hall of Fame ever on y' all mind or just playing the game, having fun, boy?

[Uncle Ocho]

Shoot, Joe, you see how I played the game? I wasn't thinking nothing, but I wasn't thinking nothing about that jacket, boy.

[Joe]

Unc, what you thinking about it? Joe, in 1991, we played in the hall of Fame game. I went into the hall of Fame and looked around, had no idea 20 years later. Yeah, I got a bust in there. Yeah, bro, I'm a seventh round draft. Yeah. All I'm trying to do is make a team. I'm just trying to make the team. Joe, you don't think about the hall of Fame? The hall of Fame never came on my radar until Mark Kis said, hey, at the rate you go, in a couple more years like this, you're going to be a Hall of Fame candidate. I say, you think so? He's like, I know so. That was the first time. I agree, even crossed my mind. That was in like 97. I agree. Hey. Cause look, when I came in, I just, hey, I wanted to make sure I belong. I wanted to show that I belong, that I could play in the NBA. It wasn't until about 15, 14, 15 years when they was like, man, look, you almost said 20, 20, 000 points. It ain't, but. It ain't but a few guys who got that, man. You, you might get a chance to get in there, but I never, I never thought about getting in the hall of Fame. I think since my career has been over, yeah, I thought about it, but while I was playing Uncle Ocho. Yeah, man, it never crossed my mind, bro. I was just out there having fun, enjoying the game.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hold on, Joe, you got a nominee for the hall of Fame? What?

[Joe]

Yeah, I got nominee this year. Oh, that's my dude. Hey, Ojo, I'm living right, man. Hey, it's a lot of good things happening for you, boy, over here.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know what I'm talking about? Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, when you get it? When you get it, boy, I'm finna be there. What?

[Joe]

Hey, boy, say less. They don't threaten me with no good. Yeah, yeah. I ain't never been to Springfield, Mass. So I. I going up there. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, oh, that. That's what our basketball hall of Fame at.

[Joe]

Yeah. Springfield, Massachusetts. Baseball is Coopertown, New York. And obviously football is a Canton, Ohio.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, boy Joe. I got a suit for that boy Joe. I can't wait, bro.

[Joe]

You got something for it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, look, I got a soup for that boy.

[Joe]

From the looks of it, it looked like I'm gonna be in the Nightcap hall of fame. Yeah, yeah. There you go. You see how I do it? You see what?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, we don't created a monster.

[Joe]

Hey, listen, don't do that. What y' all want from me? What y' all want from me?

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on, man. That's just a little respect.

[Joe]

I'm being respectful. I'm just keeping it 100. I'm just saying from. From how things going right now, apparently.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay.

[Joe]

Yeah. Hey, I'm just saying. I don't know what you gonna do, but I'm gonna put a stop to this next. The next. The next taping.

[Uncle Ocho]

Let me. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something, Joe. You getting a little too excited because we. We haven't done ping pong.

[Joe]

We haven't played pool, we haven't shot dart. You should. Hey, you.

[Uncle Ocho]

We ain't shot dark. It's so many things we haven't done yet. And you put. You got a little too much dip on your chip to be talking all that.

[Joe]

Oh, Joe. Ojo. All I want uncle to do when. When at the end of the show when he introduces, I want him to be like. And still. That ain't what happened, Joe. Hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man, hell no, Joe. But hey, Joe. Well, okay. Hey, Joe, you putting the guy.

[Joe]

Hey, you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, Joe, you putting the. You putting the eggs before the chicken now? Yeah, you putting the egg. You put.

[Joe]

You putting the camera. I seen what I'm up against. Before the horse, the horse has to pull the cart so he's always gonna be in front.

[Uncle Ocho]

Now I said he putting the carriage before the horse.

[Joe]

Yeah, I know. The carriage. Yes. You said the carriage or the cart.

[Uncle Ocho]

I said the carriage. You know.

[Joe]

Yes, yes, you're right. Oh, so you got one, right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay, yeah, yeah, I know what I'm talking about. I'll be using that.

[Joe]

I mean, normally it's the cart. I mean, people don't. But I, We. We get what you said you, Ocho. So we know Horse, Horse and carriage, Horse and carry.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know the song.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay. My bad, my bad, my bad, my bad. Yeah, Joe. Hey, tighten up.

[Joe]

Yeah, I'm locked in. I'm locked in. Don't y'. All. Y' all don't worry about nothing else.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, the funny thing about it is don't too many people. Don't too many people out trash talk me. And the fact that you keep on egging on. Like, you really like that. I don't like that, Joe.

[Joe]

Well, at the end of the day. At the end of the day, Ocho, it can't be but one winner out of all of us. It can't. Ain't like all us can win and celebrate. So the one who do win. But I ain't doing a whole lot of talking, Joe. But you acted a fool on the golf joint. You really. You really set me off. You really set me off because you acted a fool on that goal thing. You acting a fool, Ocho. You could attest to this. Joe, the one that talk about. Oh, yeah, I already know. I already know. I got this one before we even started.

[Uncle Ocho]

Joe, that was you. That was you.

[Joe]

You said that. Oh, oh, so now y' all double team? No, we not. No, no, no. We just going to help now. Oh, okay. Hey, I'm used to that. I'm used to that. I'm used to that. Just know. Hey, just know when y' all see me, man, I'm always have my a game with me. I'm always be locked in. Don't even worry. We just got here. I mean, you know, I mean, you don't even know the rules of the game. Oh, oh. Once I find out what it's gonna be, I know y' all can't. Oh, you got too much muscle. And I know Ocho ain't never been on the golf. I said, well, damn jokes.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's all good. It's all good.

[Joe]

Hey, I wasn't too far off now. I wasn't too far. But what did I tell you when he got your sudden death? I said, it's over. Y' all need with one putt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't call me on a palm tree for nothing. Okay, Joe, you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Joe, you got to understand, Joe, I had on. I had on my clothes to go to dinner, Joe.

[Joe]

I took. Took one putt and laid down. I said, I'm late. I'm tired. Yeah. I'm sitting up. Look, look.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, y'. All. Yeah, y' all Talking about, man. Man, look like it hurt.

[Uncle Ocho]

I won.

[Joe]

Michael Jordan had the flu. How did Michael Jordan look doing the flu? Did he not drop 37?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, he.

[Joe]

He. You. Hey, hey. You ain't look like you were hurting to me the way you were rolling out on the ground and all that. They look, I ain't do the Centipede. Next one I'm going do the Centipede. You can't do. I do Centipede. I might break dance.

[Uncle Ocho]

I got.

[Joe]

Hey, I might be turbo and boogaloo shrimp. I got colors. What you got? Oo. You ain't got nothing for nobody.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, when we get back out there. When we get back out there. Okay, I'm. I'm ready. I. I'm sitting. Boy, how y' all gonna out talk me? And I'm the original trash.

[Joe]

Nightcap outside for you guys. That's in the chat. That don't know what Ocho and Joe and myself are talking about. Go to nightcap outside. We had some game. We were the New York at the lawn club. And you know, we had some games that, you know, everybody, you know, everybody get to talking there. I could do this. I could do that. Hey, and we're gonna shoot dice, Ocho. Oh, oh, baby, who you talking to? Hold on, you two.

[Uncle Ocho]

What are we talking about?

[Joe]

Two dice?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, y'.

[Joe]

All.

[Uncle Ocho]

Y' all done. Y'. All. Y' all definitely done. Because that. That's what I do. Hey, Joe, I don't know if you shoot dice, Uncle. You shoot dice?

[Joe]

Really? I can show you better. I can tell you. Yeah, I'm trying to hit a lick and bring your. Hey, hold on.

[Uncle Ocho]

I ain't. We ain't shooting no dice without no money.

[Joe]

Okay? Bring your. Bring your money. I need. Bring. We don't need. We don't need. We don't need but a TH000. Whoever had. Whoever had the most money. Whoever had the most money at the end, that's who win. Okay? There we go. Y' all already. And I get to win some money. I get to win some money. Message you, boy. Hey. Cause I already know that Emmy Smith, go break the game up. What number? Emmy Smith? Okay, Because I know everybody gonna jump on that 10 or 4. Yeah, Little Joe. Hey, Little Joe. I'm back, though. Little Joe. All day old speed limit that 55 will break up game up quick. Cause everybody with both feet.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey. Y' all doing the whole thing.

[Joe]

Hey, boy, you boys in trouble.

[Uncle Ocho]

Y' all doing a whole lot of talking for people that are amateurs at shooting dice.

[Joe]

That nine Yeah, y' all are amateurs.

[Uncle Ocho]

That shooting dice.

[Joe]

What? Jesse James carry 45. Don't nobody move with me. Don't nobody move with me. Joe. Stay right where you are, Ocho. Don't try to make anything sudden. Let me get this money right quick. Oh, yeah, this. Hey, this ain't gonna be a layup, fellas. Oh, no. Oh, no. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I like that.

[Joe]

Y' all already know my point. My point. Nine. Not my point. Nah. Nina Ross. Nina ross. Born in 54, died in 63. What's my point, Joe?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Born at 54, died at 63. I'm gonna get that jacket above you, Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, keep that same energy.

[Joe]

Keep that same energy. If I could fit that jacket, Ocho, head on the other day, boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

You can fit it. You can fit a joke. You can fit it. You can fit it. You can fit it. It was the xl. You could fit it.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. I'd have got that up, but that's okay. Yeah, your day coming, though, Joe. Ocho, he can't win nothing. Yeah, you see how he talks? Reckless.

[Uncle Ocho]

Matter of fact, you know. Hey, you know why you're not gonna win nothing else? Because he's doing too much talking now.

[Joe]

Man, that's not what. Hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, Joe. That's not what you do.

[Joe]

You ain't talking. Ocho, I really did this for bread and meat, man. If I didn't win, I didn't. That's what I'm trying. You won't eat that. You won't eat that day. Yeah, you gonna be sitting in the corner. You're gonna be sitting at the corner. Ocho, man, let your boy hold something. That's all it don't take. It'll take one little thing just to set me off and see, Unc set me off and let go. And y' all couldn't turn me off. You see how Tracy Morgan did, old boy? When Joseph, let me get some.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, no. Yeah, all that talking. Remember this?

[Joe]

Hey, Chat, we got another. We got. We got another episode for y'. All. There you go. Look at it. Look at it. You see about yo? You see about yo. I mean, I just said they gonna be entertained. They want to be entertained. Guys, this is what we here for.

[Uncle Ocho]

All right?

[Joe]

I got hurt. You got hurt. Hey, boy. Hey, when I tell you. When I tell you. My glute almost pulled my glute pulling with y'. All. Hey, hey, hey, Chad, I'm gonna say one thing. I ain't gonna bring it up no more, Uncle Ocho. I'm gonna leave it alone. But that movie, the Rip boy, ain't got nothing on what I did Uncle Ocho earlier that day. There you go. Feet, you feature that.

[Uncle Ocho]

There you go.

[Joe]

Hey, you always talk about, man, hey. Oh, man, you need to chill on oo ISO, man, you need to do this. Now look at. Look, look, look. Look at what he doing. Now you see what I'm talking about? Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey. See? Now see what the problem is? We done created a monster. We done created a monster.

[Joe]

It's dropping Tuesday after the Super Bowl. Oo.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay, okay.

[Joe]

What a perfect timing.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, make. Make me look good now. Make me look good.

[Joe]

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[Uncle Ocho]

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