Best of NFL News Part 1: Keon Coleman DRAGGED by Bills Owner, Cowboys HIRE new DC

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Best of NFL News Part 1: Keon Coleman DRAGGED by Bills Owner, Cowboys HIRE new DC

Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guests: Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin), possibly a younger analyst/former player
Date: January 24, 2026

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Overview

In this episode, Shannon Sharpe and guests delve deep into the drama swirling around several prominent NFL teams. The Buffalo Bills are at the center, with owner Terry Pegula publicly shifting blame for the team’s playoff shortcomings, dragging young receiver Keon Coleman and coach Sean McDermott. The show also reacts to coaching changes in Dallas and Miami, discussing what the future holds for those franchises. With plenty of locker-room wisdom, player stories, and signature banter, Sharpe and crew bring their usual mix of analysis, humor, and honesty.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. Buffalo Bills Fallout: Owner Terry Pegula’s Comments

• Pegula’s scapegoating of Sean McDermott and draft heat over Keon Coleman.

  • Pegula addresses the media, placing responsibility for drafting underperforming WR Keon Coleman on the coaching staff, not GM Brandon Beane:

    “The coaching staff pushed to draft Keon. I’m not saying Brandon wouldn’t have drafted him, but he wasn’t his next choice. That was Brandon being a team player and taking advice of his coaching staff who felt strongly about the player.”
    — Terry Pegula (01:59)

  • Sharpe and Ocho are shocked at the owner’s public candor, calling it unprecedented.

    • “I don’t think I’ve ever heard an owner. Ever. Ever, Joe. Ever.”
      — Michael Irvin (04:05)

  • Ocho on locker-room politics:

    • “That’s the stuff that goes on behind closed doors… You never hear about it. The public never gets to hear it.” (04:33)

• Reflection on Keon Coleman’s future and public criticism

  • Ocho predicts Pegula’s comments might serve as motivation:
    • “Maybe that might be the chip he need, huh?… Sometimes it’s a wakeup call.” (05:57)
  • Lament over mishandling youth:
    • “You don’t do your young players like that. You don’t come out and say some of the things you just said like that.” (04:08)
  • Discussion pivots to personal accountability and loving the craft:
    • “If you love the game, everything that you think the game can provide, it will. And plentiful. But if the only thing that you love is what the game could provide, it won’t be long, right?”
      — Shannon Sharpe (10:58)

  Notable Quotes

  • “You gotta teach him how to be a pro.” (07:31)
  • “You can still be you. But you can only be you if you on the field.”
    — Shannon Sharpe (16:03)

• Critique of Bills’ roster and draft history

  • Beane’s low success rate in drafting Pro Bowlers highlighted:
    • “Since he drafted Josh Allen, Brandon Bean has selected two Pro Bowl players… He selected 56 players. That’s not a good ratio.”
      — Shannon Sharpe (03:57)
  • Questioning whether the team’s talent measures up:
    • “I don’t think this roster is immensely talented. They got no players on defense.” (25:23)

2. Sean McDermott’s Firing & Organizational Changes

• Pegula’s reasoning for firing McDermott despite strong regular seasons:

  • “Great roster, good coaching, no Super Bowl appearance… I couldn’t see us doing that with Sean. That’s why I relieved him.”
    — Terry Pegula (21:19)
  • Ocho questions logic:
    • “You starting back over from scratch… with new coaches… thinking things are going to change because you fired Mr. McDermott?” (22:55)
  • Sharpe on misplaced blame, especially given Josh Allen’s turnovers:
    • “He put an awful lot of blame on Sean McDermott. Now, Josh Allen turned the ball over four times… I didn’t hear you say nothing about that.” (23:38)

  Notable Exchange

  • “Normally when they clean house, they clean everybody. The house stinks, but all y’ all did was clean the living room. What about the bathroom?” — Shannon Sharpe (31:36)

  • Ocho: “How do I take the pressure off of me? I point the finger at everybody else, even though I’m the one in power.” (32:38)

• Buffalo’s new stadium and future moves

  • Discussion on looming stadium move, some skepticism on changes’ effectiveness:
    • “Hold on. The proverbial walls have been removed from Mahomes, Lamar got—especially now… and we still can’t get there.”
      — Shannon Sharpe (33:48)

3. Miami Dolphins: New Head Coach & Quarterback Turmoil

• Dolphins hire Green Bay DC Jeff Hafley as new HC; John Eric Sullivan as GM.

  • Hafley’s resume dissected: “eight straight head coach [hires] with no previous NFL head coaching experience.” (37:47)
  • Dolphins’ 25-year playoff win drought underscored.

• Roster issues: Who takes the QB reins? Discussion on potential fits

  • Ocho:
    • “…calling plays on the defensive side is not the problem. What you going to do on offense? Who’s going to be the quarterback?” (39:16)
  • Sharpe and Ocho consider Malik Willis, Kyler Murray as potential options, question Tua’s future:
    • “If you don’t have a quarterback, I don’t give a damn what division you in. You ain’t competing.”
      — Shannon Sharpe (40:24)
    • “These owners want instant gratification. They want instant success… That’s not the way the game of football works.” (40:56)

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4. Dallas Cowboys: Hiring Christian Parker as Defensive Coordinator

• Parker comes from Eagles’ successful defense, but Dallas’ defense is “the worst in the league”:
  • “…the hire doesn’t matter… You could bring Jesus out there to be the defensive coordinate of the Dallas Cowboys, you’re still going to get what you got.”
    — Uncle Ocho (50:56)
• Defense vs. Talent Debate:
  • Dallas lacks Eagles’ “horses”—even a great DC can’t scheme wins with lackluster talent.
    • Sharpe: “I can’t… think of a player on Dallas’s defense that I would take over somebody on the Eagles defense, especially not the secondary.” (52:08)
    • Ocho: “Now is where coaching comes into play. If you ain’t got the quality or the skill players… you’re still going to get exposed.” (51:43)

Notable Moments

• Extended analogy about coaches needing talent:

  • “I don’t care nothing about no scheme… Give me them horses.”
    — Shannon Sharpe (54:17)
  • “Bob Baffert’s great. He ain’t winning the Kentucky Derby with donkeys without the horses. God damn it.”
    — Uncle Ocho, laughing (64:53)

• Dallas’ reluctance to spend big in free agency and overvalue the “honor” of being a Cowboy; calls to trade for proven talent like Maxx Crosby or T.J. Watt, debate about potential impacts on the team (56:35–61:11).

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5. Lessons from NFL Success & Team-Building

• Contagious hard work and professionalism key to NFL longevity:

  • Sharpe and Ocho recount personal anecdotes about living in the gym and leading by example, emphasizing that self-drive and love of the game separate stars from washouts (08:13–12:18).
  • “If I always gotta tell you… hey, man, let’s go work out… I can’t want it more than you do.”
    — Uncle Ocho (12:10)

• NFL as a “copycat league”: Why do some teams not copy winning teams’ formula for success?

  • Ocho: “Jeffrey Lurie and Howie Roseman have done a phenomenal job… Why don't other owners and GMs copy them?” (62:19)
  • Sharpe: “I'd rather fail my way than succeed somebody else's… That's your way.” (62:45)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Keon Coleman’s Wake-Up Call:
  “Either you gonna keep him or you’re not. But I tell you one thing. You let him go, you gonna regret it. Maybe that’s the chip… he might need.” — Michael Irvin (Uncle Ocho) (05:25)

• On NFL Toughness:
  “You can still be you… But you can only be you if you on the field. All that dancing… Do that in the end zone.” — Shannon Sharpe (16:03)

• On Owners Passing the Blame:
  “How do I take the pressure off me? I point the finger at everybody else, even though I’m the one in power making the calls.” — Michael Irvin (32:38)

• On Team Building:
  “I don’t care nothing about no scheme… give me them horses.” — Shannon Sharpe (54:17)

  “Bob Baffert’s great. He ain’t winning the Kentucky Derby with donkeys…” — Uncle Ocho (64:53)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [01:15] – Opening: Terry Pegula’s startling comments about Keon Coleman and coaching staff
• [04:05] – Ocho and Shannon react: “Never heard an owner do that”
• [10:58] – On loving the game vs. loving what the game provides
• [21:19] – Pegula explains Sean McDermott’s firing, organizational “proverbial wall”
• [37:47] – Miami Dolphins new head coach Jeff Hafley, AFC East QB issues
• [50:56] – Cowboys hire Christian Parker as DC, deep critique of Dallas’ defensive talent
• [54:17] – The “horses” analogy: talent over coaching schemes
• [64:53] – Memorable Kentucky Derby “donkeys” analogy
• [61:11] – Discussion about Cowboys, Super Bowl aspirations, and organizational philosophy

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Tone & Style

Full of candor, humor, and insider wisdom, this episode keeps a lively and raw tone. Sharpe’s directness and Ocho’s colorful analogies and locker room stories make the football talk both insightful and entertaining. The panel doesn’t shy from calling out NFL owners, calling for accountability, or offering tough love for young players—always with the goal of highlighting what it takes to be successful in the league.

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This summary captures the heart of the episode for those who missed it, highlighting all the critical debates, teachable moments, and NFL locker room truths that make Club Shay Shay must-listen sports talk.

Transcript

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Hello, it's your favorite sports thunk here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you, so please subscribe or you're gonna make Ocho cry. Bill's owner Terry Pula appeared on Sean McDermott as a skate, appeared to use Sean McDermott as a scapegoat, publicly shifting blame while standing firmly behind Brandon Bean, especially defending the controversial decision to draft Keon Coleman. Coleman was selected for Buffalo with the 33rd overall pick in the 2024 draft, but has underperformed thus far in his two seasons. Let's take a listen to what Mr. Bagula had to say on Keon Coleman.

[Terry Pegula]

Yeah, can I interrupt? I'll address the Keon situation. The coaching staff pushed to draft Keon. I'm not saying Brandon wouldn't have drafted him, but he wasn't his next choice. That was Brandon being a team player and taking advice of his coaching staff who felt strongly about the player. And you know, he, he's taken for some reason heat over it and not saying a word about it. But I'm here to tell you the true story.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, before you go now, if you go back and look at the NFL Network cut up, Brandon Bean is saying I'm glad he ran four Five, seven. That means he'll be there when we select. Now, that's what he said. That's what if it's a lie, he told it. But you see now there. Vic Karrueche. And I know Vic. Vic said there was a meeting about a month ago. Mr. Gula, Brandon Bean, Sean McDermott. He. Yeah, asked Sean McDermott. Now, this is what's being reported. I don't know. I wasn't there. What's being reported is that he. Sean McDermott says, I don't think we have enough right now to win a championship. And in the process of saying that, because I'm trying to not. Since he drafted Josh Allen, Brandon bean has selected two Pro bowl players. 2. Dion Dawkins, James Cook, Dawson Knox. Oh, James Cook. Dawson Knox. He selected 56 players. That's not a good ratio.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ooh. I don't think I've ever heard an owner.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Ever. Ever, Joe. Ever.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

You know, you don't. You don't do. You don't. You don't do your young players like that. You don't come out and say some of the things you just said like that. Now, I understand the onus also, and being responsible, being on time, knowing your routes, be not missing meetings, whatever it may be, whatever reason they had to make you a healthy scratch, you can control it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Because if you were doing your end, not only in meetings, not only at practice, then we wouldn't be getting to a part where your owner comes out saying stuff like this because they see you as a valuable asset to that team. So when they don't see you as a valuable asset, this is the kind of you got dealing, which rarely happens. Conversations like that, Joe, like what you heard today or what UNC just played. That's the stuff that goes on behind closed doors. Those are the things that are said behind closed doors. You never hear about it. The public never gets to hear it. I think we saw a small example of it with Jerry Jones this year. Obviously, with the Michael Parson stuff, you saw a little bit of it creep out a little bit, actually. An owner actually saying how they truly feel. But now owners are getting a little. Not. Not a little brazen, you know, and. And. And letting people know how they feel about certain players.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You like that, don't JoJo?

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

I love it. Un. I told you that. I told you we need to have more people like Jenny Bus. You need to come on that. Yeah, you know what? I said it. That. That's how I felt at the time. I was angry. I was upset. You know what? Is there anything I could do about it? Can I take it back? No, I can't. Mr. Bean. Mr. Bula, that's how you feel about Keon? Okay, bet. Say less. Either you gonna keep him or you're not. But I tell you one thing. I tell you one thing. You let him go, you're gonna regret it. Maybe that's the chip.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Maybe that might be the chip he might need, huh? Yeah, Joe, sometimes it's a wake up call.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Because if I'm hearing that, if I'm hearing that, if I'm Keon and I'm hearing that, I'm like, come on, man.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Hey, Joe. Good thing they bench. Hey, hey, Joe, they binge. Bryce Young, but when he came. When he came back from that benching.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Boy, what he looked like stepping on stuff. Stepping on it.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Come on, now.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Stepping on it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Stop playing big boy.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Man, listen. Another. A small example. Some people might not believe it. Some people might not believe it. They bench. They bench to her. I. I just have a feeling and a gut. Just a gut feeling inside of me. Hell, he gonna go somewhere else.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

He gonna ball lady and he gonna.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

He gonna ball in. The situation might be predicated for him perfectly. I just think it might happen. Keon Coleman. Him come on down here in the offseason and holl at your boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Hey, hey, go see. Go see.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Oo. Oo, y', all, you got to get your hands.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Oh, man, listen, Joe, I.

[Commercial Voice 3]

We.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Hey, he didn't know I'm already in his hip pocket.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He didn't hear.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Come down there and run some RS with y', all, man. You. You gotta get it right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo. Can't let him.

[Terry Pegula]

Come on now.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Hey, Joe. Hey, that guy.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Where you from? Where you from?

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

I'm not sure. I'm not sure what Keon from.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He went to Michigan State, so he might be from Michigan somewhere. Up in Michigan.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Oh, before.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, cuz he went to Michigan State.

[Commercial Voice 4]

He.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was at Michigan State at first. He's from Louisiana. Oo, yeah, he from the boot.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Okay, okay, wait, listen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, he from the boot.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

I mean, he already got. He already got that dog in.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

They breed him like that. Yeah, you gotta teach. Hey, you gotta teach him how to be a pro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, I got him.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

I got him. I got. I got him. I got him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Two different things. A professional occupation. Pro is how you go about your business.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now that. Telling that joke. They was laughing on your. Remember you got them coaches from Marshall and H M, you know I play a little golf. All I do is play football. Go home, play golf. I'm Tiger. Wish you could. Not Tiger Woods. Okay, that's fine and good. Now you telling all them jokes and everybody kikiing. Get your ass on the field. You better ball out, right?

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah, that's it. I know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know a guy that was funny that joke all the time.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Oh, yeah. He was a class clown with a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Seventh round draft pick. Joe.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

I could tell you another one that was funny, too. And he was entertaining, Joe. Hey, he ain't take the game serious. And he ain't follow their NFL rule. He marched by the beat of his own.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who was it?

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Who? Boy, you looking at him, boy. Hey, hey, boy, listen. The NFL was my playground, and I'm gonna play it the way I want to. I don't care what you say. But when it came time to do things right, the things that require you being approached. Yes. Being on time, showing up for meetings, practicing her. Hey, Joe. I ain't miss you.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

First one now.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Oh, man. Who. What? Joe. I lived in the stadium.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The first in the way. In the weight room, man.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

That's the kind. That's the kind of. Hey, Joe. That's the kind of locked in. I was. I was. I was a little bit crazy. I was a little crazy. Yo, they called me Can't Get Right Joe. That's what I was, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Real talk.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

When I was in college, Uncle Ocho, I literally. I slept in the gym.

[Shannon Sharpe]

For real.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

We had a lounge, and it had like. That's when you had the big flow. Models, flat screen tv. The big.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

I used to. Hey. I had my video game hooked up on that joint. I slept in the lounge, bro. And didn't just go out and shot. Just basically taking naps and just waking up, going out there, you know, working on my game. When I was in college, I lived in the gym, bro.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah. Hey, hey, Joe. Keon got a lot. He gotta love the game. When you love the game, Joe. When you love the game, Joe. And you pour into that, Joe. It gave you all. It all come back to you on Sundays. It all come back to the results show up. I'm talking about when nobody's looking, Joe. You got to pour into your craft, Joe. And Unc Ocho, when you point into your craft. Not when they tell you you gotta go out and train. When you're not even supposed to be doing it. When nobody's watching. When nobody's looking and you just watch and you honing it and you sharpening It. The results show up on Sundays. And before you even get to Sunday, I want Keon Coleman to get to a point in the off season where he gets into a building, whether it's in Buffalo or whether somebody else we get in the building, and he makes everyone else's job easy. But God damn, who is this? Yeah, well, who is this? Now everything flips. You're now more valuable to them as opposed to the opposite way. They can't talk shit about you because now you on your. All your eyes are crossed. I mean, all your eyes are dotted and all your T's is crossed. Now you got to do and go out there and play football.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

That discipline, bro. You gotta have that discipline, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I always. I used to ask guys when I would talk to guys. I don't get an opportunity to talk to very many guys. Now I said, I want to know one thing. Do you love the game or do you love what the game can provide? Oh, man, that's all I need to know. Because if you love the game, everything that you think the game can provide, it will. And plentiful. Hello, in abundance. But if the only thing that you love is what the game could provide, it won't be long, right? It won't be long.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

You get. You get exposed, huh? You get exposed real quick.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

You forget. You forget what got you there. You forget what got you there. The hard work, dedication, the. Them late, dark nights. Because, see, once you come into this, once you come into being a professional and you get. You start to make all this money, man, you start to do things that probably you normally wouldn't do. But, yeah, as a youngster, we know you're gonna make mistakes, but we got to try to minimize those mistakes. But you got to have a love and passion to naturally want to get better, bro. That's the only way you're going to improve. If I gotta always tell you or Keon, if I always gotta tell her, hey, man, come on, man, let's go work out. Let's go. If I gotta always do this, I'm.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Gonna go so far, brother, you got to be there. I can't. I can't want it for nobody. I can't want it more than you do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I can't.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

It. It'll never work. It'll never work. And I. And listen, Unc, I didn't. I didn't send a DM to all the young ones now. I didn't send a DM to all the young. You what young you laughing? Keon already talked to him. Xavier legged already Talked to him. Roma Dun, man, Luther Burden, I'm talking about. I done went through all 32 teams here. Everybody that's in year two and three, man. Come on, man.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

I'm gonna come out there. I'm gonna come out there and give me some of them ladder drills with y', all, man.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Let's. Let's. Let's work, man. Let's politic. Let's talk. How do we get you going back to your team, completely different. Completely different where you're now more valuable to them. God. You mean we. Hey, hey, hey. What do you mean? We don't have to put him in motion.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, wait.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

We don't have to condense the split.

[Commercial Voice 3]

Not.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

I mean, just all around. Your game can evolve so fast and just. Oh, just two, three months. That's all I need.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Two, three months. How you seeing the game different?

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Hey, hey, it's got to be, you know, you got to look at maybe who the people he hanging around, too. Ocho, you never know, bro. You know, it could be deeper than just the game, bro. Just keeping it 100, you know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's why I take my hat off to the greats. Because if you look at anybody that's been great. Tom Brady played the game like he was still that 6 round draft pick and he was broke. Peyton Manning with the number one draft pick, highly sought after, but he played the game like he was broke. Jordan played the game like he was broke. Kobe, LeBron, all these guys played the game like they were broke. They put the time in, year after year in order to be great. Some people are born great. Some people have greatness thrust upon them. It does not matter. It only matters what you do with that greatness. Theodore Roosevelt. Some people are born great. Some people have greatness thrust upon them. What are you gonna do, Ocho?

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

They gonna be all right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They say, ocho, your famous quote says, and Santa's doing the same thing over and over and hoping for a different result. I did the same thing over and over, hoping for the same result to be successful. That's why I trained the way I trained. That's the way I ate, the way I ate. That's why I did what I did, because I wanted the same result all Pro Pro Bowl, Super Bowls. Why deviate? I'm not saying be you, because at the end of the day, I'm me. One time, he's like 84. Why you. Why you not calm like, TD? Cause I ain't TD. This me.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The greatest compliment that I probably was that I got from my teammates, and a lot of the coaches, they said 84 when you was gone. We were miserable. All of a sudden, it became a job. It wasn't fun anymore because I kept. And you heard John say it say, you kept the locker room. You got them going. I kept some bull job going.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

That was me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But when they need a training camp, a practice, cool would come to me, or cool would send BP with my position coach. The boss wants you to get them going. Okay. Now I got to start banging on the joke. I'm gonna strike the band up.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Oh, I'm going.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm back on everything, Joe. Strike the band up. You. You. Oh, y' all about to get it today. Nah, go. Oh, no. The man say, hey, we need that.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Keon, you can do both. You can still be you. But you can only be you if you. You on the field. Yeah. All that dancing. All that dancing and all. Hey, all this, all that, all that. Do that in the end zone. Hey, what. What? That dance that we do it on, though.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Hey, you better call.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know what to call. You got to be the hardest worker. Yeah. Do all of that in the end zone.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah. All right. We gonna. We gonna.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We don't.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

We'll get him right. I'm gonna get him right. Hey, hey, hey, Joe. I'm looking for a reason to put him in strap my goddamn. Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Keep you in some shape, huh? That's what I'll be talking about, man.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

You know. You know, I got my wide receiver workshop now. Where? In. In the off season. Well, remember all the fellas came out last night? Miami, man. What? Man? Hey, I'm talking about my old high school. Judy, Chase, T. Higgins, Jordan Reed, Cortlandt, Sutton. Man, all them JSN was here, like, all them. Oh, dog, they. I talk about. Hey, Joe, I ain't expect them. I ain't expect all them boys to show up like that because, you know, it was short notice, and I'd be scared to bother people because, you know, I look at them like, oh, my God, like a little kid. Like, I never played in the NFL. So if I was. If I was to ask personally and they tell me, no, Joe, I'd be hurt.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Hey, Joe, I swear for God, my right hand of God, man, like, I can't take hearing no from those that I look up to now that I'm not playing the game no more. I don't. I. The way they view me and how they look at that, how they say, man, should we look at you? Nah, you don't understand. Like, I, I, I can be humble and be a fan of y' all, though. When they showed up, Joe, I try to, I tried to thank them boy for showing up. Joe, I started crying, man. Yeah, it felt good. It felt good because I was, I was scared to reach out to him because these are the big boys. These, the boys making 30, 40 million a year. I think they gonna come work out with me. And they, and they looked at me and said, man, it's you. You damn right.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

You ain't know how much weight you carry.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Nah, not, I mean, you know, I don't look at it like that, Joe. I don't look at it like. But dog, but the boy had me feeling good. So now I'm seeing all the issues with all the young dudes this year. I'm like, nah, I' ma fix that.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

You gotta keep them on track, man. You gotta keep them receivers on track, bro. Damn. Yeah, I'm gonna come get some of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That though, if this doesn't wake him up. Because I've, like I said, I've never heard an owner talk about it. Now if he wasn't on the team, I can see it. This man's still currently on your roster and you talking reckless like this, he's saying Brandon, Brandon. That wasn't, that wasn't Brandon choice. I'm not saying Brandon wouldn't selected him.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Right?

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Yeah.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, going back to the bills, Mr. Pugula also addressed what boiled down in regards to firing Sean McDermott. Here's his reasonings.

[Terry Pegula]

Guys, again, I go back to 523-2226. Great roster, good coaching, no super bowl appearance. And I can't emphasize if I can put you all in that room at that moment after the game, it's like, how do we overcome this? You know, it's been one year after another and that was the sense of how do we overcome this? And I just couldn't see us doing that with Sean. That's why I've relieved him. It's not an easy decision, trust me, with that success. But what is success is success being in the playoffs seven years in a row with no super bowl appearance.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Standards.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Hey, listen, hey. So he believes bringing someone else in, changing everything up. The coaches, the players, the continuity Josh Allen had with that offense, the defensive guys, the continuity they had with the defensive coordinator. They think the chances are better scrapping everything off, bringing in new coaches, bringing a new regime, having the offensive players having to learn an entirely new offense and thinking things are going to change because you fired Mr. McDermott.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Like make it, make it make sense. You starting back over from scratch what you already do, but at least the same system and the continuity and the familiarity and knowing it makes it a little easier once you get into season and once you get in the Flow. Now you start back over from scratch.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

And you think things are going to be different because you didn't go over to get over the hump.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, Ocho, when we were talking real quick, you remember when we was talking in October, I said, ocho, at some point in time, he, the owner is going to believe that Sean McDermott is taking this team as far as he can take it. He said we had hit the playoff proverbial wall.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now that's what he said.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, he put an awful lot of blame on Sean McDermott. Now, Josh Allen turned the ball over four times. They turned the ball over five times as a team. Four of them in Josh's hands. Yeah, I a hear you say nothing about that.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Somebody got take the play.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

You know, hey, you know, hey, hold on. You know, he's not gonna throw his quarterback under the bus. The quarterback is too bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He threw the, he threw the. He threw the ball under the bus.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Too much for him. I, I tell you one, I tell you one thing. If he had said. If he had. Did Josh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. He could do that. Josh is out of there.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Thank.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Out of there.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah, exactly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Here's my thing.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

They know who to play with.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you can say.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Oh, no, I was just saying they know who to play with. They know who to play with.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Help me understand this, Ocho. He put all this blame on the coach. He said the coaches wanted Keon Coleman. So what role did Brandon Bean play in building this roster? He only drafted. Did he, Brandon Bean draft Josh Allen? So he drafted two plural plans since he's been there, and he think it's a great roster. Really?

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Hold on. How many. Hold on. How long Mr. Bean been there? Huh?

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ashley, looking it up right away, quick.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Because I, I want to know, when did Dion Dawkins get there?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He didn't draft Dog. I don't think he drafted Dog either.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So he drafted his first draft with Josh Allen, the second draft with Josh Allen. Okay. Did he draft. Do.

[Commercial Voice 3]

You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because he's drafted two Pro bowl players since Josh Allen, obviously. We know Josh Allen's been to the Pro bowl and he's been an mvp.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. So I don't, I don't think this roster is immensely talented. I don't, I don't. They got no pro. They got no probate players on defense. I think Josh Allen was the. Josh Allen was a Pro Bowler this year, right?

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

He's an alternate.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was an alternate. I'm asking, I'm thinking it's Drake May, Justin Herbert, and was It Trevor Lawrence or Josh Allen, the envy. The. The Pro bowl quarterbacks for the afc. Okay, Josh Allen. So basically. And Dion Dawkins made the Pro bowl too, didn't he? So they got, they got no players on defense, and they got two players on offense, the left tackle and the quarterback.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

That's it. James Cook.

[Shannon Sharpe]

James Cook. James Cook. Yeah. Oh, okay, so three. You ain't got no players on defense.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah, that, that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's the Bronco. Got a left tackle, a right guard, and a, and a, A wide receiver. They got Pastor Tan, they got Nick Bonito, and they got Zach Allen. So they got six Pro Bowlers. Okay, let's go to who else? New England.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Oh, they.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gonzalez. You ain't got no.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Probably.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And, and now look, I, I, I, I ain't gonna get on no soapbox for Sean McDermott. Your expertise is defense. Your defense has been trash in the postseason. They've been trash. Oh, so they give up over 30 points a game. Yeah, I don't. You're not winning very many games. Oo. In the playoffs, you give up 30 points. The playoffs is different than the regular season. You could give up 30 a couple of times in the regular season and win a game. You start giving up 30 in the postseason, your ass going home.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah. Hey, you know what? We already knew. We. We knew, Joe, and we knew the goddamn Bills didn't have much on offense. Where you think the moniker came from with Josh Allen happened to be super Cap out. He got to pull the cape out, Joe, because they don't have much. Josh Allen is one of the few quarterbacks that could probably go on any team and elevate everybody else because of what he's able to do. Josh Allen has to elevate everyone else that's around him, and he has to do more with less, and that's what he's been able to do. And within Coach and Mr. Bean up there talk about. We have our.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Our. Our.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Our. What's the word Preview. What's. What's that? That's a big word.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What? You. What, you try to play off what.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Play off what? They.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Proverbial wall.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Proverbial. Hey, I like. I like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Hey, they hit the proverbial. Joe. Hey, Joe. They hit their proverbial.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's meaning that it's. It's not an actual wall, but that's what.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

That's as far as they can go. Obviously, that's as far as they can go. So they. They hit their playoff proverbial.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That broke the proverbial camel's back. Right, right, right.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

That's a new. But, but, but, but I'm just saying, is the owner. You understand that? You understand. You know, he needs more help. You know, he needs more help offensively, and obviously, you want.

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You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

You want who you know, you want to be the expert. You would love Keon Coleman. As high as he went as far as far as being drafted, he's supposed to be the X factor. He's supposed to be that guy to say, you know what I mean? You don't need to bring nobody else in here. I got this. I'm gonna take some of the pressure off James Cook. I'm gonna take some of the pressure off Josh Allen. I'm gonna take some of the pressure off my officer coordinators, because you know why? Y' all can count on me. Just put the ball in the area. Just put it.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

That's what they thought, Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah, that's what they thought. But I'm gonna make sure. I'm gonna make sure when I get a hold of him and he get back, it's gonna be just like that. Well, they got me hot. Wait. They got me hot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Remember Keon Coleman? They got rid of Stefan Diggs last year, remember? So he was supposed to come in.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

And take up binga and digs balling.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you know, when they had. I mean, look, Josh and Diggs was a super duper connection. And. And look, they're looking at it like, okay, prior to Saturday, Josh hadn't turned the ball over in six games. Ocho. That's crazy.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

He was. He was on the roll. He was on the road. And that's always been his Achille Hill Joe. In the past. In the past. In his earlier days, you know, the first two, three, four years, his problem.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Turn the ball over.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Turning the ball over because of his goddamn arm talent. Crazy arm talent. I'm. You know what? I think I could squeeze that in there. I'm gonna throw this rope. I'm gonna throw it anyway. I'm gonna let it go. He would like Brett fall down.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Bad day to be trash.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, that. Those. Those five interceptions had more to do with it than Sean McDermott. Now shot like I said and I said when we were talking about this Ocho, you say, oh, it may have been to the playoffs as an Ocho at some point in time, man, they go. The only gonna think the man is gone as far he.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

He.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He keep hitting his head on the ceiling. This as far as he can go.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I just knowing how owners think, Ocho, I said, yeah, this. This is not gonna end well. This is not gonna end well. Yeah, you can't keep going. Going to the playoff, and it's like 2C, 5C, 6C. Yes. But Josh brought you back last. Last week against the Jacksonville. He has to play. The thing is, it's hard to continuously win when your quarterback has to be great every single game or you cannot win. Right. There have been some games that Tom didn't play great, but they run you out of the building or the defense would get. Get turnovers and stuff like that. But when Tom needed to be great, he was always great when he needed to. He could play like dog, dog poop. Let him be the four quarters getting field goal range or touchdown to beat you.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

He gonna get there.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Every, every time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like John Witherspoon said it Friday, that's.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Your ass, Mr. Postman. Clutch.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I. I don't. I don't like this. I don't like putting all this on Sean McDermott. I do. Me, I do think it was time for a different voice in there, but Brandon B. I'm just trying to figure out. Normally when they clean house, they clean everybody. The house stinks, but all y' all did was clean the living room. What about the bathroom? What about the fish that y' all left in there for three days?

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Hold on. I got a question. Once McDermott gets fired, doesn't all of his staff.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Okay, okay, okay, okay. Well, that's clean. That's clean the house.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm talking about general manager. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Empower. Cleaned. Okay. You want everybody going, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you gonna keep the hair and throw out the hide? The hair got to go with the hide. Everything gotta go. That's a good one, man, please. But I. I don't. I don't. Yeah, I. I don't. I don't like this. This is not. I don't. I don't think this was very, very professional of Mr. Pula to take this opportunity to try to dump on Sean McDermott, to try to dump on Keon Coleman that.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Well, he got to take the pressure off. He got to take the pressure off him. Joe. That's. That's the game they play. Joe. That's the game they play. How do I take the pressure off of me? I point the finger at everybody else, even though I'm the one in position of power making the calls. So technically, I'm just as responsible as Mr. McDermott, because everything got to go through you anyway.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

You get A green light to everything. So what part do you play in this, Mr. Pagulo?

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I told yo remember, they got this new stadium coming. Don't they move in that new stadium next year?

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Damn. It's. They finished the direction.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, yes, yes. They gotta do. I told you what they.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

They is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It is.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

It's closed now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know. I mean, I. I wouldn't put. No. I wouldn't put no dome in Buffalo. Cause I to my advantage, right?

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Man, hell is.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Well, it ain't. It ain't too much advantage. They didn't been home every goddamn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But. But a lot of times. Look, they haven't. They haven't. And. And a lot of this I'm sure Mr. Magulu was looking like. Hold on. The proverbial walls have been removed from Mahomes. Lamar got especially now. Lamar has never beaten Josh in the postseason, but Mahomes and Joe Burrow has. So two of the thorns that's been in my side have been removed and we still can't get there.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah, this. This. This was the. This was the year. And this might be why Mr. Bean and Pula are upset. I can understand it. Because hell no, Lamar, you ain't got to deal with him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Guy.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

You got to deal with Joe. You ain't got to deal with, you know, brother Mahomes. Well, hell, the AFC is clear for us. I think the only issue is the only problem.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I would have thought he backstabbed the Patriots. Oo, how. How you losing just as much as Sean McDermott? He gets fired, you get a job promotion.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah, you know that. Hey, that's. That's the game they play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm like, hold on. How I lose my job, he get elevated. So. Oh, the coach. The coach wanted him. So what about all them other players that ain't panning out like they supposed to coach one of them too, huh?

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Okay.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

And that's crazy.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Miami Dolphins have a new head coach on show, the Green Bay packers defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley as the next head coach. Dolphins signed Hapley to a five year contract. He joins new general manager John Eric Sullivan, whom the Dolphins hired to replace longtime GM Chris Greer this month. Sullivan and happily overlapped for the past two seasons together in Green Bay. The Dolphins have not won a playoff game in 25 season, the longest such drought in the NFL. The Miami Dolphins last wanted playoff game December 30, 2000 against the Indianapolis Colts. Halfley was a senior at Sienna before his two years at the DC at Green in Green Bay. Happily was head coach at Boston College where he went 22 and 26 in four seasons happily is the eighth straight head coach hired by the Dolphins who had no previous NFL head coaching experience. The last Dolphins head coach with previous head coaching experience was Dave Weinstadt in 2000.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Hey, I remember Dave, huh? I remember Dave.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was a D.C. hit Dallas. No championship team for, for the long.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah, hey, but listen, Mr. Happily, boy, he, he got his work cut out for him, huh? He got his work cut out for him. For one. You have no, no head coaching experience. Now you do have experience in general, being around the atmosphere and, and being coordinator.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You call plays on the defensive side and I'm sure that's what he told Mr. Ross, that I'm going to call plays on the defensive side. Go ahead though.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

But at least calling, calling players on the defensive side is not the problem. What you going to do on the offense? Who's going to be the quarterback? Who going to be a leader at the helm? That's, that's the issue right now. You look at, you look at the goddamn afc. You got Drake May playing all world out his mind. You got Josh Allen. He's not going nowhere no time soon. Now the jets is probably a team you don't have to worry about as of right now because hell, they ain't got no goddamn quarterback either.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nope.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

So at some point, somebody pulling up the real. Who is going to be. It's either gonna be the Dolphins or it's gonna be the Jets.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Until we find a quarterback pulling up the real. Let's just say somebody gonna be coming.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

In last place that's pulling up the real.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh? Are you sure?

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Well, if you're pulling up the rear, that means you in the back. Am I saying something wrong? Oh, you don't like the way it sound?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, that, that just sound, you know.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Oh, my bad, my bad, my bad. Okay, my bad. I got you. My bad. I'm bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But that, but you're right. You. If you don't, if you don't have a quarterback, I don't give a damn what division you in. You ain't competing. You're not competing.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

No joke, you're not. He got two years, huh? You hear me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, happily.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah, man, he got two years, boy. Maybe, yeah, maybe not even that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, when he signed the five year deal, they just didn't. They just signed McDaniel to an extension.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Exactly, exactly. That's why I said what that mean. He just signed a five year deal. What that meant. What? These owners want instant gratification. They want instant success because the same way they run their businesses when they want their businesses to work, and they want to see. They want to see return on investment really fast. They just pour my money into it. That's not the way the game of football works. You can't pour money. Well, actually, you can pour money into it, but there's a thing called a salary cap which doesn't allow you to do like. Like the Dodgers do. You can't be like the goddamn Los Angeles Dodgers. Yeah, and if you could, who the top teams, they'll win every goddamn year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know. You like Malik Willis to the. The Dolphins. You like.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Hey, now we talking. Now we talking some business. We making some sense. See, I done had to get up out my seat, man. Malik Willis to the Dolphins. I saw enough. I saw enough of him when Jordan Love went down with the goddamn Packers. Now, the problem is you have to understand the supporting cast that was around him as well. Now right now, he doesn't have that same support. There is no Watson. Now we. We got a Jalen Waddle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Got Waddle.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Nope. We got Washington. You know, Darren. I'm assuming Darren Waller will be back. He was loaded with receivers over there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you this. Would you rather have Malik Willis or Kyler Murray?

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Oh, hold on. Let me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Let me. Let me. Let me go to my. Let me go to my thoughts.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Hey, you know what? That's a good one right there. That's a good one. Now you got me stumped right there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Matter of fact, I'm a. I'm a revert to the goddamn chat. Chat. If even if you're not a Dolphin fan, who would you like better as a quarterback? We saw a small sample size of Malik Willis. Obviously, in Tennessee. That doesn't count. But you saw what he did when Jordan Love got hurt with the Packers. He looked goddamn phenomenal. We've seen Kyler Murray. We know what Kyler Murray can do. We've seen a bigger sample size of him even though things didn't work out in Arizona. Now, the Dolphins, we are in dire need of someone at the quarterback position. Yes, disrespect the Quinn eras or tua.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I'm just saying, I think two is gone. I think you need. You need to start thinking about someone else other than Tua. Right, because the reports are that the quarterback did not have to be married to Tua, which means there's a Ocho. You don't bench a quarterback the last three games with the anticipate. Now, look, this is a different coaching style, right? So they might come in and have a different philosophy or different thought process on tour. That could be the case.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

I don't think so.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't either. I'm just trying to look at it from.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah, hey, I know. I understand. You're trying to be great, you're trying to be gracious. But when a new coach of staff comes in, they're gonna want. They want to want a fresh start. They're going to want it. Yeah. They're going to want their guy. Hey, somebody making fun of what I'm wearing? Y' all so rude. Why y' all being so mean to me? Like I got feelings. Yeah, I'm wearing. I'm wearing a sporting lisbon for those who, you know, watch soccer. Sporting Lisbon jacket. And I got some. Some cheetah pants I bought off shine. And, you know, you shop on shine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't. No, I don't.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

You like my. You like my pants?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I like them on you. I would. I mean, that's not me. I couldn't wear something like that.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Oh, okay. They were 20 on sheen or shine. I don't even know how to pronounce it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know if they could give them. They couldn't get them to me.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

But no, I mean, look, you know it's 40 degrees in Miami, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I believe it.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

It's. I don't know what the hell was going on today. I didn't have this on all day. It's cold as hell outside.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Shine.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

No, you know, it is. It is Shine. S H E I N. It's like, it's like, it's like an affordable site. Like, like not forever 21. What's the one for men?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Timu.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

No, not team. No, not Teemu. The other one. Like they have. They have a man's line and a woman's line. Damn. No, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know Ross Marshalls?

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

No, they online fashion. Nova fashion.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

So I. I think shine is like in. In that realm of like, you can get good pieces if you know how to dress. If you know how to dress. It's not about buying expensive stuff and just knowing how to put stuff together to make it look like it costs money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but I. I mean, me, I mean, I.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Hey, you want me to get you a petties?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no 57 year old should be in no leopard print. Unless you Mick Jagger. Unc.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

You unc. You stylish man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jagger is the only one that should be wearing leopard print.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Nah, a print. Print is a part of print print and fashion in general, is it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not for me.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

It's an expression of yourself.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. I choose to express myself in other ways.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Okay, I got you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't got no problem with a. A man or a young man or wearing leopard print. To each his own. That's just not for me.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah, you should. I. I look good in it, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, Maybe a jacket. Yeah. Could I wear a jacket? Yeah. Okay. Wearing no pants.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

I got you. My bad, my bad. I mean, I just. Oh, now they calling me ashy, man. Damn. Hey, why would I have on lotion in the house? Who wears lotion in the house? I ain't got nobody to impress.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, but that's the new thing, man. I. I mean, look, I ain't never. I didn't know.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I didn't know that so many men watch what other men wear.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It'd be on that head.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm like, well, damn.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah, it'd be on that heavy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If I was trying to impress you, you would have a legitimate case. But I buy clothes for me, right?

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Same.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I buy what I like.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah. Yeah. And you. You really have to be a wolf, really, not to care what nobody else think when most of everybody else is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, they sheep. Did you see my pitch? I tweeted today.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah. With the kids.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

I like that. I like that picture in the back, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, my.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I had an ex that brought me that for my birthday.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

But that. That was nice, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that's one of the nicest birthday gift I've ever received from anybody.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah, that ain't got nothing to do with money either.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I had no. I had no idea. I'm like, what the hell is this, man? When I saw that.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah, I bet you. I bet you was crying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I almost teared up. I did.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah, that's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's a good gift there, boy, because that's. That's what. That. We had buried my grandma in that pink hat, man. It was. Yeah. My boys were asleep when I come home. Mocho. They. That's it. Oh, except Thanos.

[Terry Pegula]

He.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was running. He was.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

He'd be all over the place.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but that was. That was two weeks ago without, like last week when I came home. And then, man, who took that picture? That must have been Michelle. That must have been like, damn, everybody else take a picture. Oh, so everybody take a picture. And don't nobody get asked when Jay Z and Beyonce take a picture. Ain't nobody else who took that picture home take a picture. And who took that picture?

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

I'M like, well, damn, you know, they be wanting to know, man, you know, they be want to know. They, you know, they want to know, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, it might have been Cookie for all y' all know.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Who was Cookie, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't worry about it.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Oh, from the old stories. The old.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was. It was not Cookie.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

You found him.

[Commercial Voice 3]

Who?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I haven't seen cookie in 30 years.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

You might.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You might want to be a. I don't.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

You know. Hey, you want preheat that oven, huh? You know what happened when you put a cookie in the oven? You preheat it, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't eat cookies. Cookie or cookies.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

God damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just want to make sure. I want to throw that out there because you a. I know. You didn't say nothing about no cookies. Singular, right? You said cookies. But you might eat cookie.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

I mean.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know where you're going. I know you.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

No, I won't do that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you will. You sleep. You're real slick with your mouth.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Hey, I wouldn't even think it like that, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you was.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

I wasn't thinking like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You were.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

I promise you I wouldn't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I gotta stay. I gotta stay. I gotta stay on mine because I already know you always on some bull job. You always. Run that back one more time. Oh, run that back one more time. What you say now? No, no. The Dallas Cowboys are hiring Philadelphia Eagles secondary coach and passing game coordinator Christian Parker as their new defensive coordinator. It's a bit of meteoric rise for Parker, 34, who spent the past two season under Vic Fangio staff in Philly and and only only coached in the NFL since 2019. Yeah, Parker secondary has been the strength of the Eagles top five scoring defense both years there. Philly ranked first in passing yards allowed in 2024 while giving up 22 touchdowns through the air, the six fewest in the NFL this past season, finished eighth in passing yards allowed and first in passing touchdown surrenders with 14. That's a stark difference from Dallas, which was the worst defense in the league and passing yards allowed, giving up a whopping 35 touchdowns, 31st in 2025. The Dallas also finished 32nd and 30th in points and yards allowed, respectively, which led to the firing of defensive coordinator Matt Eberfluss after one season. Ocho, would you like this higher?

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

I mean, the hire doesn't matter, huh? The higher doesn't matter. I mean, you could bring Jesus out there to be the defensive coordinate of the Dallas Cowboys. You're still going to get what you got. You have to understand where coach is coming from. Coach is coming from the Philadelphia Eagles.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Their strength and their identity is on the defensive end. Well, hell, you got Cooper, Dejan, you got Keon, Mitchell, you, you, you got hello, Blanket, that Blankenship, Zach Braun, that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Front four, Kobe, Dean, you.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Hey, the second level, you got Bond. I mean, there's a reason why the defense looked like it did. There's a reason why coaches get jobs to go other places when they've been at places where the goddamn talent level is somewhat damn near.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I agree.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

And that's what it is now for Coach. You know, Mr. Parker, going over to goddamn Dallas now is where coaching comes into play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

If you ain't got the quality or the skill players of those positions, you're still going to get exposed. So what you had to work with in Philly, you don't have to work with in goddamn Dallas. That's going to be the problem that you're going to run into. So it doesn't matter who you bring in the coach, if you don't have the quality of players to be able to run the scheme or the system that you want to. That you want to incorporate. I'm just being honest.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You've been very honest. And I think that's the thing, is that I can't. Off the top of my head, I don't know if there's a player on def. On Dallas's defense that I would take over. Somebody on the Eagles defense, especially not the secondary.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Nobody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Definitely not the linebackers. I'm not even Quinn and Mitchell. I wouldn't take him over Jordan Davis. I wouldn't. And I know he's been an all pro and I know he's going to the Pro Bowl. But right now, as I sit here and we have this conversation with you, I wouldn't. We know Jalen Carter has talent at the yin yang.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just need him to play hard all the time. I don't think. I mean, I need Big Fangio to get in this air and have a conversation with him. Hopefully. He called him in and said, son, if you're not in defensive player of the year discussion, you failed. We failed you and you failed us. Right. You have that kind of ability. Vic Fangio have been around some of the great talent defensive players in the league. I remember having a conversation with Wade Phillips. Wade was the D coordinator in Houston and I was asking him about J.J. watt and he said, shannon, they keep talking about he's he a bus, he's going to be A bus. He said, shannon, he's gonna have a bust in Canton with you. That's what I swear, Ocho, he. That's what he told me. He said, shannon, he's gonna have a. He's gonna have a bus in Canton with you. Before the guy even played a down, he said, if you watch this guy in practice now, I think he would know. He coached Reggie White, he coached Ricky Jackson, he coached Von Miller. He coached a lot of great. What's the guy he wanted? He won defensive player of the year at Buffalo. Bryce Pop.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bruce Smith all the. Bryce Pop was the defensive player of the year. Bruce Smith was a defensive player year. Reggie White was a defensive player of the year. Ricky Jackson in the hall of Fame. Von Miller, we know he co. He said, this guy's as good as I've ever coached. And I'm talking about Reggie. He coached Reggie. He coached Ricky Jack, he coached Bruce Smith. He said, this kid is as good as. As good as I've seen.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah. And so.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It matters. I don't care nothing about no scheme and all this you can get as exotic as you want to. Give me them horses.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah, you need them, huh? You need them? You need the horses. I'm glad Mr. Christian Parker got the D.C. job. It's good to see you continue to elevate in your career and try to climb that ladder. That cloak, that coaching ladder was very difficult to climb, especially going to Dallas to be able to do it. The problem that you're going to face is if you don't. You don't have the same quality of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Players, you don't have the Eagle secondary, you don't. You don't have Quinon, you don't have Cooper, you don't have Blankenship.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

No, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't nobody in your secondary is comparable to those three guys. Now, obviously you're going to coordinate the defense. And when you throw Vaughn and Nicobe Dean in there and you look at. They got Jalen Phillips, they got Jordan Davis, they got a Carter.

[Commercial Voice 4]

Yeah, y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All, y' all don't have the equivalent of that in Dallas.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And, and, and it doesn't matter what you do offensive because we've seen Dak. Dak has been playing out of his mind.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But if he has a, if he has a slow start or an off game, you guys aren't stopping anything.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Now. Now what we can say is we do have the draft coming up. We do have off season acquisitions. I'm sure Dallas is going to have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dallas don't like to spend the money now, offseason, they don't, they don't like to go in fridge and say ocho. They like to get that Ocho. You know how you just go back to school?

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You done got everything been picked on. Everybody done tried them jeans on and the shirts on.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Right?

[Commercial Voice 3]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like damn. Oh, it's just. We gonna mark it off another $5. Cause they got a little mark. Cause everybody had their ass in these jeans.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah. Now you heard what you just said.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

You said Dallas doesn't like to do certain things they don't do like, they don't like to do certain things. As far as in the off season. When the last time Dallas been to the playoffs in the Super Bowl. Forget the playoff, they've been to the playoffs recently. When the last time they've been to The Super Bowl?

[Shannon Sharpe]

95. They won five Super Bowl 96. January of 96.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Okay. You make your hay, you make your hay in off season acquisitions and getting players that can help you improve year to year. How do I get better? What area do I need to improve in? You get those veteran players, veteran presence. Because the chances of getting somebody in the draft and will come in right now and make a tremendous impact and change the trajectory of your offense and your defense is not likely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man. Give those two first round picks and go get Max Crosby and stop playing.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Come on now, talk to me. Talk nice to me. Talk nice to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go get those two first round draft picks and go get Max Crosby. Cause you're not going to get anybody in the draft better than Max Crosby and he's probably the only guy that can be had as far as left. You're not getting Miles Garrett, you're not getting Hutchinson, you're not getting, you're not getting Danielle Hunter, you're not getting will Anderson Jr. You're not getting any of those guys. You're not getting Bonito, you're not getting Verse, you're not getting any of these top tier rushers. So I don't. Bro, give up that first. Give up. Hold on, hold on. Go get Max Crosby.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

I got a question, I got a question now. Yeah, you said, you said a whole lot of names. You know of some good impact players that can make a, a change, have a tremendous impact over there in Dallas. What you think about old 95 down there in Cleveland coming on down there to the big star.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're not trading him.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Hey, listen, listen, I'm just asking, I'm trying to see where you hate it at.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on. This guy about to be a two Time Defensive player of the year. I tell you what, they're gonna have to give up three first round draft picks and probably a couple of players.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Hey, but let me tell you something. He was there with Blackbird 30. Hold on, let me. He was, he was with, he was with Cleveland last year, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

How many wins they had last year with him?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not a lot.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Okay, well, they can have not a lot without him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Guess what? He the only reason you, the only reason you going. You know they gonna lose, but I'm gonna see how many sacks he gonna get.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Okay, I got you. I got you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what I'm saying? I gotta have something. Oo.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And look, he seemed, and he's made it abundantly clear he's happy there. He said, as long as, as long as, hey, I want to win and as long as I believe that they're going in trending in the right direction, I'm happy. I'll be here.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Don't, don't, don't fall for that. Come on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, you know, I'm just saying what he said.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Okay, that's, that's what he said. But anytime you put a camera and a mic in front of a player's face and it's going to get out there, everything is PC. It's PC.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You, you know, honestly, Ocho, I don't think he wants to leave. I think he likes Cleveland. I think he wants to. I think he wants to, wants to. He. Whatever success that Cleveland has, he wants to be a part of it. He doesn't want to look, he don't look at himself like a mercenary. See, like Vaughn was willing. Like the Broncos traded Vaughn to the Rams and what did they do? They put inside AD And Linden, Florida. And now you got hell on your hands. And you see the second half. Joe had that outstanding first half and you watched the second half and you watched them mofos take the game over. You watch AD Whip everybody ass.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Well, I tell you what, I tell you what. If you say Miles Garrett had no chance or opportunity to go to the Dallas Cowboys because the Cleveland Browns would never even think the thought of trading him as a. No, no, because that's the only thing you do have.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

What about TJ Watt leaving the Steelers and going to put that stone.

[Shannon Sharpe]

TJ Might be a possibility. Trey Hendrickson. You got Trey Hendrickson. You, you don't have to, you would have to give up any compensation for him.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah, I, I, I like the upside of having, having T.J. watt. I like the, I like the upside of having T.J. watt, Trey, he's been.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's been Nick the last couple of years. His production tends to go down towards the tail end of the season. But that first half, he's phenomenal. Yeah, he's a defensive player of the year. He's a Pro bowl player. He's been an all Pro. He had tied the NFL record of 22 and a half sacks until Miles Gary broke it of 23.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

So, yeah, I like it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But that's a big salary. You got to play now.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Hello. We need to do something. You got to pay. You got to pay for your product now. You ain't getting nothing for free. I know one thing. If you do pay that big salary, every owner, when it comes to business, also when it comes to players, if we put money into you, we want a return on that investment. And that's the type of player where, if you're paying big money, the chances are 98.9% you won't get a return on an investment. When you invest in elite talent like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I agree. I agree, Ocho, but they got to do something. They got to do something because it doesn't do any. You any good. You got a 4,000 yard passer to 1,000 yard receivers and 1,000 yard rusher and your ass missed the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

And we know why.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because. Because you had a Super bowl offense and a Bud bowl defense.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah. Hey, could you imagine. I got a question for you. Could you imagine. Could you imagine the Dallas Cowboys hypothetically speaking? Chat. Yeah, stay with me. The Dallas Cowboys offense with the Seahawks defense, With the, with the Broncos defense.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, that would ain't gonna be. Man, you're not. It's. Ocho, do you understand how hard it is to have that man? Because normally you invest on one side or the other. You says, okay, this is how we're gonna make our hay. Now you. It's possible if you draft really, really well.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Really well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. You look at the Broncos one year, okay, they drafted demarius Thomas, they drafted Eric Decker, they drafted Julia Thomas, they drafted. No Sean Marino. They drafted. I think Clay was, was there. And then they drafted Von Miller, they drafted Roby. They draft Chris Harris Jr. Was undrafted. They drafted those two backers, Danny Trevatha, and then Brandon Marshall. They drafted Derek Wolf, they drafted Malik Jackson. So now you sprinkle in a key. Now you sprinkle in T.J. ward.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay, now we. We got something.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah. Hey, you know, it's. It's all about knowing how to build a team. You do a. Having the right team, having the right eyes, having the right scouts.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

And Jeffrey Lurie and Howie Roseman have done a phenomenal job at that. I'm not sure why. This is a copycat league. It's a copycat NFL when it comes to offense and the defense is thing that you see other people, other things that you see work for other people. Most of the time teams copy it, whether it be offense or defense. I'm not sure why owners and coaches and GMs and scouts don't copy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because I tried to do it my way. Ocho, that's your way.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Yeah, but their ways working, that's the point. I'm trying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'd rather fail my way than succeed somebody else's. Hey, look at Houston Texans. Look how they drafted. You get Will Anderson, you get Stingley, Lassiter, Petrie, 220. I think that's how you say his name. T O O T. Oh, you get him. Now you traded for Algier. Will Anderson Jr. Now you, you get Danelle Hunter in free agency.

[Co-host/Guest (Possibly a younger analyst or former player)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. You get cj, you get Nico, you get Tank Dale. Woody Marks with a low round draft pick. I think you go back into the draft, you get an offensive lineman. But that's what you got. You got. You got to have it. Yeah, it's hard, I mean, to have.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

One offense, one defense. I think the Patriots, not the Patriots, the Chargers had the number one offense and number one defense and missed the playoffs. How that happened. But the Cowboys, look, the Cowboys have a formula. Jerry believes he has a formula. He wants everybody to take a discount because you played in Dallas and it should be an honor to play in Dallas. It should be an honor. He don't really pay his coaches top dollar because it's an honor for you to coach the Cowboys, but something's got to give. Yeah, he keeps on talking that he'll.

[Commercial Voice 3]

He'll.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He'll sit down and retire once he has the most super bowl, bro. You got three. The Patriots got six. And the Steelers, the Rooneys, they got six. You got a ways to go. You're not close. You missed the playoffs. I don't even know why you talking Super Bowls. You shouldn't say super or bowl. Hey, as a matter of fact, you put another piece, say supper, we about to eat and go to bed. But.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Oh, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, I agree with everything you just said. I'm glad for the meteoric rise that Parker had. But at the end of the day, I don't care who the trainer is. Bob Baffert's great. He ain't winning the Kentucky Derby with.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Donkeys without the horses. God damn it. It's a good analogy, boy. Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's a good one. And I know, and I know Bob very well.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

That's a good analogy. That's a good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're not.

[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

That's a good one. That's a good analogy. I like that one. So I'm stealing that.

[Commercial Voice 4]

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[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

I'm trying to run as fast AS T mobile 5G home Internet, Zach.

[Commercial Voice 4]

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[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Really?

[Shannon Sharpe]

How's this?

[Commercial Voice 4]

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[Uncle Ocho (Michael Irvin)]

Whoa, that's too fast.

[Commercial Voice 4]

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