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BEST OF NFL NEWS PART 1: Kerby Joseph CALLS OUT Bears + Leonard Williams on Seahawks expectations
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Sarah Spain
This is an iHeart podcast. The US Open is here and on my podcast Good Game with Sarah Spain, I'm breaking down the players, the predictions, the pressure and of course, the honey deuces, the signature cocktail of the U.S. open. The U.S. open has gotten to be a very wonderfully experiential sporting event. To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain and iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Nov founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network, I'm Jake.
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Jake Hofer
Hofer and this is Back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode I'll be asking eight whitetail hunting pros a focused, thought provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access?
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Should you? That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand.
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Jake Hofer
Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Dan, he's Ty. Hello and we're the solid verbal College Football Podcast. Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan. Join us all season long as we ride the roller coaster of this ridiculous sport. Listen to the solid verbal college football podcasts on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. We don't just love college football, Ty, we live it.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club.
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Kirby Joseph
San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.
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Jake Hofer
We need to embrace this community.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Listen to San Diego FC behind the Flow on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, it's your favorite sports unc here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you, so please subscribe or you're gonna make OO cry that we got a very special guest joining us right now. We got All Pro All Pro safety from the Detroit Lions led the league in interception last year. Here he is, ladies and gentle Gentleman, Kirby Joseph. K.J. what it do?
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Kirby Joseph
What's up y'? All? Man, I just want to thank y' all for Having me on here.
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
What's up, Kirby? Boy, you got money?
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Yeah, I was saying the same thing. I'm thinking the same thing. I'm thinking the same thing. Hey, I ain't never.
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Hey, I ain't never seen nothing like that.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Why would.
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Kirby Joseph
You know? I'm in that.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
I'm in that thing that look like a color that would look like. I don't know. But from where I'm sitting, you know, I'm sitting, you know, many, many miles away. But that what it look like.
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
He got.
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Kirby Joseph
Yeah, man. I'm in the galaxy right now.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Hey. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, how you doing? How. How. How was your. How was your off season coming in? Because, look, the last couple of years, you get to the NFC championship game, you lose to the divisional round. So how is your off season? And how do you lose the last two seasons, this off season to get you right where you need to be coming into this season?
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Kirby Joseph
To be honest, I felt like that last season made me even hungrier. You know, just getting a taste of, like, that I can do it, then I'm going to, like, achieve it all. That's just how I am as a person. You know what I'm saying? I'm never gonna stop at nine. Like, you know, I got nine interceptions. I'm not gonna stop at nine. I'm always gonna try to pr, you know, because I feel like if you're not getting better, you're getting worse.
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Hey, how was. How was camp this year? How's the body holding up? Obviously? Are you going into. Are you. Uncle always has a saying, if you. If you limp into the season, you're going to limp out the season. How's your body holding up? How did camp go and how you feeling going, man?
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Kirby Joseph
Honestly, everything went great, man. I feel like we had a great camp. I just felt like I know now, like, you know, this is like year four for me. So it's like a lot of stuff I done seen before. So. Like that. That.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
That.
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Kirby Joseph
That saying, that saying, like, oh, the more years you play, like, the more experience you'll get. Like, that's the truth.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
You know, cliches. Look, last year, you guys, man, you got up to this great start. You played pretty well all year, but these injuries started to mount. You lose a D lineman, you lose a D tackle, you lose a linebacker, you lose a backup, you lose. You just kept you losing player after player. And AG did a great job. And Coach Campbell, the head coach, did a great job of keeping this team steady, like, no matter who we lose. Guys, hey, this is why we have 53 man rosters. Hey, guys, come in. You do your job. That's all I need you to do is your job. It had to be frustrating. You like, well, damn, bro. I mean, at some point in time, we got to run out of defensive players. We can't lose anybody else.
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Kirby Joseph
Yeah, last year, that was. I never seen nothing like that in football. I'd never seen. I never seen that before. That it was. I wouldn't say it was frustrating, but it was kind of heartbreaking just seeing my brothers, you know what I'm saying? Like, get injured and stuff, because nobody wants to get injured in this game. You know what I'm saying? But we love playing this game, and, you know, that's what we signed up for. You know, injuries are going to happen. But, like, how that happened.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Yeah, that was crazy.
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Kirby Joseph
Yeah, I never seen that before, but I felt like. I felt like, man, we just. We just knew what we had to do, you know? I mean, you know, guys go down. You know what I'm saying? And if it's something like that, that happens, man. I feel like I don't pride myself on, like, just having, like. I wouldn't say I. But I feel like us as a team, we don't. We don't. How should I say? We don't believe in, like, ones and twos. You know what I'm saying? It's like the next gotta go.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Everybody gonna start us.
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Kirby Joseph
Yeah, yeah. Cause like, I tell. I tell the group all the time, like, even everybody always says it's gonna take all of us to win. You know what I'm saying? So, like, as a team, that's just what you gotta do. You know what I'm saying? When your brother down, man, you gotta step up to play.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
How different. Go ahead, Ocho.
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Hey, I'm gonna say, obviously with AG being. Being gone, I'm. I'm one of the one. I've always come to bat for you guys. Regards to who the person is calling defensive plays with AG now being with the jets, but the same players are still there. So regardless of who's calling the plays from your. From your perspective and your point, are you still allowed the freedom to be able to do what you want to do at the safety position? Being that you're as good as you are, being. Being able to have a little. A little freedom to do what you want? Are you allowed?
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Kirby Joseph
Yeah, I feel like. I wouldn't say now I always had little freedom, especially when AG was there, just. You know what I'm saying? Learning it as I go, you know, I feel like, yeah, the same. The same players are here, you know what I'm saying? You know, ag, I'm a missile, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, he had to go do what he had to do at the jets, you know what I'm saying? I'm wishing them good luck and all, but I don't feel like the level of play is going to decline at all. If anything, I feel like it'll increase a lot more, you know what I'm saying? Because now I feel like it's just, you know, it's a new coaching staff change, you know what I'm saying? Everybody has to go through that coaching staff change and that. That building relationships and the adversity you have to go through throughout the season, you know what I'm saying? So I just feel like it's a new turning point, you know, new chapter.
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Right? The thing for me, when I'm. When I'm thinking, I think about safety play. You wanted a better seat. Probably actually the best safety in the NFL, you know, along with Kyle Hamilton. And to be able to get the amount of picks you get, there's a certain amount of freedom that you have to have that it can't be scheme, it can't be scripted. It's not X's nose. It's just you being able to have free will to make decisions based on your discipline and what you see. So I know you have a new coaching staff, and most of the time you get coaches that come in and they have. I don't want to, I think, maybe not ego for the most part, but I want you to do things my way, in my way only, so I would. I was just curious if, even with the new coaching staff, are you still allowed to have free will outside of the X and those to be able to play your game?
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Kirby Joseph
Yeah, for sure. I feel like, like one thing I noticed about like a lot of. A lot of my teammates on the. On the team is that, man, like, we're football players, you know, I feel like the team does a great job of allowing us to be football players because, you know, football is not just what you see on paper. It's not going to be like that in the game. So you got to understand stuff happen. So you got to, you know, you got to play football, dog. You just got to play football out.
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Thank you.
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Thank you. Thank you. I like that you say that because this is something that I always struggle with somebody. I mean, obviously, when I was playing. You go in, they put, they put the scheme, the taxes, this is what we run. And they do the exit nose. It's a straight line. And he cuts, right. I'm like, dude, that's not how it happens in real time. You got people moving, pushing and tugging. So it's kind of different out there on the field. And most of the time, I would always tell my officer, coordinator, give me a little freedom to do what I do. But I'm going to stay within the timing of the offense and the same thing on defense. It's all about reading, reacting in a certain amount of time. But I'm going to do everything I can the way you draw it up. But you got to give me some freedom. You don't have me out there playing like a goddamn robot. Yeah, but go ahead.
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Kirby Joseph
I can't play football like a robot. It's just not in me, bro. I gotta.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Right, right. No, my question is, is that you got somebody in your division that you face twice a year that was your offensive coordinator for a long period of time. And you know, he's drawing up plays to beat the defense. In training camp, you guys are trying to scheme plays to stop the offensive training camp. So how, how fun, how different, how difficult do you think it'll be to face Ben Johnson? We know he's one of the best offensive minds in football and he happens to be in your division. You play them twice a year and they've loaded up. They went and got drafted a receiver in the second round. They drafted a tight end in the first round. They shored up their offensive line. They're seemingly in the preseason and I don't, don't want to put too much on the preseason, Kirby, but it seems to be. They're flying around defensively, but you know, their bread is buttered on the offense. They got a first round draft pick. They got D.J. moore, they got Roman Dun. I think they got a. Was it Burton? I think they took Burton in the second round on Missouri. They got Loveland and Cole commit. So they're, they're a really good team. But, you know, you, you familiar with him and he's familiar with you guys.
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Kirby Joseph
Hey, I like that you said that because like, you know, Ben, Ben had to go do what he had to do, just like AG did, you know, I'm happy for him, you know, I'm saying, the opportunity. Yeah, they got some guys over there, you know what I'm saying? But Ben know what's up with me. Like you said, he know, he know what's up with me, bro. So I'm never going back down or away from competition because honestly, I feel like that he knows the players and he knows kind of the scheme we run and stuff. I feel like it's more of a challenge, you know? So I feel like it's always a. Always a way to get better, and I feel like that's a big, big test right there.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Yeah. You know what? I would tell you this Dan Campbell, because when he first got the job, that man talking about bite kneecaps, and he was gonna do all this. So what's. What's he really. When the cameras are not there and it's just you guys at practice and you guys are in the meeting room or you. What's Dan Campbell like?
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Kirby Joseph
Honestly, man, I feel like. I feel like. I feel like Dan Campbell, that's just a great coach, you know, I feel like he's more of a players coach because just because he understands, like, what, you know, what we put our body through and what we go through throughout.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
He was a former player, I'm saying.
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Kirby Joseph
Yeah, he was a former player, so he kind of understand how everything be. I feel like he does a. A great job of, like, taking care of us, and he shows that he's passionate, you know, about a lot of things we do. Like, the reason why he's telling us these things, he's telling us is because he wants us to win. Not only him to win, but he wants us to win. You know what I'm saying? Like you people are saying, it's not just him or the team, it's us because we doing this as a group. We're a team. You know what I'm saying? We reaching one goal together. So I feel like he does a great job of just teaching us that, you know what I'm saying? And a lot of the drills we do or a lot of the practices or the meeting, the team meetings and stuff like that, man, I just felt like, man, every time that man get up and go up on that podium or whatever he talking about, I'm ready to go right now. Already right now. Yeah, I'm ready right now. So I just. Man, I love Coach Campbell, man. He does, you know, I'm saying everything.
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
I like it. I like, hey, what's your nutrition like? Are you. Are you one of those healthy eaters, you know, eat green stuff all the time? Like, are you.
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Kirby Joseph
You know what I'm saying? I'm going to try to eat good like that, but if a good. Like, if I ain't got you know, over the extension. So just starve myself or not eat food. I'm gonna eat my food.
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
See, I like it. See, so that's important to my next question. Okay, okay. Okay. That's cool. Listen, I want to provide my. My services. You know, I'm. I'm a meal prep, so I can provide you with meals Monday through Sunday. I only charge $20 a week.
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Kirby Joseph
You're a meal preferer?
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
No, yeah, yeah, I'm a meal. Listen, I'm trying to make sure you get the greatest output every Sunday or Thursday night or Monday nights, whenever y' all might play. And. And you are my first client, so I'm not taking no for answer. I'm not taking no for answer. I'm telling you. So I'm gonna let the world know. Listen, I'm your nutritionist from now on, and I. I thank you for. For giving me the opportunity.
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Kirby Joseph
Okay, Bet it sounds good. I'm checking out, though. I'll check you out.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Yeah. Yeah.
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
I got. I got a new job. I got a new job.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
You guys traded Tim Patrick, Jameson Williams going into his. Like, Jameson, do you think he's ready to take that next step? Because we've seen him show, so the flashes, we. We know what almond rock, we know what he's going to do, but not Jameson, you know, and. And at first he was just that guy that try to get deep, but now you can just put the ball, you can hand it to him and he can go hit his head on the goal post. You can throw him a smoke screen, jailbreak screen, and he can go get the. He can go to the end zone. So what. What do you think? What can we expect to see from. From Jameson this year, man?
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Kirby Joseph
Honestly, I'm so. I'm so proud of Jimmo, man. Jimmo is one of the guys that you, you know, you see out there, and he just continues to get better. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like this year, I feel like they ain't. They ain't seen this Jimmo yet. So I ain't, you know, I ain't gonna put it all out there, but the demo this year for sure.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
He ready. He ready to rock.
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Hey, hey, where Brian Branch at, man?
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Kirby Joseph
Man, B.B. man, I don't know right now. He probably summoned, but, man, that's. Man, that's. That's none of the guys on another guy on the team that continues to just work hard, bro. Like, bro, his. His back said his bag is tools or whatever. He used to play safety.
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Hey, nice. He Made he nice. Listen, I talked about him. I talked about him all last year. Matter of fact, it got to the point where it was almost weird. I tweeted about him and you so much to the point where it's like. I was. Like, I was stalking. But I'm. Listen, I appreciate secondary play, DB play so much. Even though I'm receiver, I was giving y'. All. Y' all boys credit week in and week out, just the way y' all play the game and the way y' all approach to the game. So I've always been a huge fan. Especially, man, you. You and goddamn Brian Branch, man. Him being able to go to safety, then sometime having to go to corn. I'm like, man, what the hell? Like a damn near Swiss army knife. He doing everything, man.
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Kirby Joseph
He. He's super talented, man. He's super talented. I feel like one thing he does the most is like, his. His instincts crazy. His instincts crazy.
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
I absolutely.
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Kirby Joseph
Him at nickel, him at safety, kind of. The nickel is kind of up to par. But when they moved him back to safety, you know, I'm saying with Mizzou, man, like, the plays he made, I just. You know what I'm saying? I'm still wishing I made them. I just put it like that.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Are you a talker? Do. I mean, when you're on the field, are you talking to the opposing team? Is your defense talkers, or you guys just go play football?
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Kirby Joseph
To be honest, I feel like everybody got their own little situation going on when we out there on that field.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Good.
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Kirby Joseph
Me, personally, I feel like. I feel like I don't too much say nothing, but somebody pissed me off, bro. You're gonna hear me, bro. Like, I'm. And once I'm going at you, bro, I'm never gonna stop.
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Is it. Is there a player. Is there a player that you really don't like that y' all always go at it? To give you a better example, perspective. Mike Evans and Marshawn Lattimore. Do you have anybody like that that you go at it with in the NFL or not?
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Kirby Joseph
I got a couple. A couple?
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Yeah, I got a couple of them.
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Kirby Joseph
I don't too much be going for none of that.
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
But is it. Is it. Is it personal or it's, like, really serious? Like, I don't really. I don't. I don't see you like that. Like, I really.
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Kirby Joseph
There's only one. Like that.
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
There's only one.
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Kirby Joseph
Isn't.
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Who that.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Who that?
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
I want to know.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
I want to know.
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Kirby Joseph
I'll tell you. I'll tell you. I ain't. I'll tell you.
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Okay, okay. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
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Kirby Joseph
Once they find out, they gonna be trying to separate.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Yeah, okay.
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Okay. I got you.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Once he find out, he gonna try to get you before you get him.
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Kirby Joseph
Yeah, yeah. Now, you know he know who I am.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
So.
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Okay.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Obviously, yeah. Your head coach and you mentioned a lot of the players from the defense and the offense is still there. Although you lost both of your coordinators, the expectations are still high. You guys won 15 games last year. The year before that, you went to the NFC Championship game. Ah, bro, it's time. I mean, you know, you only. You only get so many bite of the apple before. Before the apple's gone. Now y' all be taking big. Y' all be taking big bites.
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Kirby Joseph
Hey, we ain't gonna stop. Hey, we ain't gonna stop till we get there, though. Like. But I don't never see myself especially, like, stopping. I feel like a lot of the things we went through, I. I feel like it was to. To get us to this moment right now. I feel like we got a lot of guys healthy, we got guys back, you know what I'm saying? I feel like, you know, especially the guys that were on the team last year, they kind of understand that we gave it even more than we did the first year, but that still wasn't enough, you know what I'm saying? So got to still keep going, because now it's just any. My new thing going on with the game, that could be the change of the top of the game, you know what I'm saying? So just working on the situations and stuff like that, and then just. We got made plays, you know what I'm saying? I feel like a lot of the things that happen on the field, but, like, playmaking, I feel like it's not only the coaches getting on us, but it's ourselves because we got. We keep ourselves accountable. A lot of the things, you know what I'm. Yeah, yeah. Cause it's like I hard on my. I be hard on myself when I don't get interception for the game, you know, because I feel like I leave my team down, you know what I'm saying? And BB Might feel the same way if he didn't get enough sacks, you know what I'm saying? It's just stuff like that. Like, you know, I just be like, you know what I'm saying? Let's help each other and keep each other on point.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Week 16, you got. You face a very familiar opponent. You was in the same Division with this guy, Aaron Rodgers. He's with the Steelers now. You've had a lot of success against Rogers. You looking forward to that matchup?
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Kirby Joseph
Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, that's my favorite quarterback, though. No.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
You expect him to throw you a couple, huh?
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Kirby Joseph
Well, yeah, that ain't gonna stop.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Yeah.
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Kirby Joseph
Yeah, that ain't gonna stop, but. Hey, he cool, though. He cool for sure. Trying to see. Yeah, I'm trying to see if he gonna sign one of them.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
I was about to ask you the same thing. I said, you try to get one of the ball signs?
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Kirby Joseph
Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to get one of the ball. I'm trying. I'm trying to at least one of them. I got about.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
I tried to just get a sign.
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Kirby Joseph
I'm just trying to get a sign. I'm just trying to get a slot.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Y' all play the Steelers, week 16?
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Hey, y'.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
All.
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Y. Y' all don't play.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Yeah, we do.
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Kirby Joseph
I think we got them on a schedule this year. Yeah, I think that's my first time going against Joe Barrel.
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Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
You got. Do you circle games? Do you. You look at. Do you look at the calendar? Do you look at the schedule, like, okay, all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is my. Yeah, okay. I like this. I like this one. Do you circle games? Week five. Y' all play the Bengals. Week five.
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Kirby Joseph
Oh, for real?
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Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
I'm going to the game where they playing. Okay. Okay, I see you. Week five. I'm coming out there. I'm coming out there. Yeah. Yeah.
- [20:50]
Kirby Joseph
Hey, I feel. I don't feel like I got, like, a whole bunch of games, but I do be having, like, revenge games. I have, like, a revenge game or, like, somebody. I ain't play, like, the Bengals. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, like, that's one of my games out of circle because, you know, I never played them before. I always like to play different teams, see different people and see different plays, you know?
- [21:09]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Yeah. And, you know, they got one of the better offenses. You know, the quarterback you mentioned, Joe. They got T. They got Chase, the Triple Crown winner. They're supposed to be really, really good on that side of the football. So you guys are really going to have your work cut out for you.
- [21:23]
Kirby Joseph
Yeah, and I see my. I see a couple of my dogs out there. Chase, Brown and pj.
- [21:28]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Yeah. Yeah.
- [21:29]
Kirby Joseph
So. So then my dogs. I'm trying to, you know, Jersey swap, see all them boys.
- [21:33]
Leonard Williams
You.
- [21:33]
Kirby Joseph
I'm saying, it's always good to see you, you know, I'm saying your teammates from way in the back and way in the past stuff, right?
- [21:40]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Well, Kirby, man, best of luck. Stay healthy. Thanks for giving us a few moments of your time tonight, man. Wishing the. The Lions the best of luck. And you guys win that division and get to the super bowl, man, come back and join us and have a conversation with us again.
- [21:53]
Kirby Joseph
For sure, man. For sure, man.
- [21:55]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Oh, go ahead.
- [21:56]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Hey, no, I'm saying my meal prep. I'm gonna send you the directions on how to take the food, the amounts, you know, three. It's three meals a day. Three meals a day. So I'm gonna send everything to you. I'm send it to your dm and then I'm a mail all the food to you.
- [22:12]
Kirby Joseph
Okay.
- [22:12]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Next week.
- [22:12]
Kirby Joseph
Hey, say he for real. Oh, he playing.
- [22:16]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Yeah, yeah, I got you for real.
- [22:18]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
You're not for real.
- [22:20]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Hey, listen, I promise you. No, listen, I'm you my first client. I'm an NFL nutritionist. I'm going to make sure people stop getting hurt. Not only are people going to stop getting hurt, they're going to be able to put out the best output because of my meal plan and my meal prep. So, boom, this is what it is. It's what I do. Look, I got like 300 jobs, and.
- [22:41]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Meal prep ain't one of them.
- [22:43]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Just added one. Hey, come on, Unc. Support black business. Support black business.
- [22:51]
Kirby Joseph
Look, look, when we, you know, get off the call, you know I'm saying, just hit me. You know I'm saying.
- [22:55]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
We could do that, though. I got you. I got you. I got you, twin. I got you.
- [23:00]
Kirby Joseph
Hey, but I do want to thank y' all for having me out here. I want to thank God also, just for giving me the opportunity to come out here every day, play football, you know what I'm saying? And just to give back. So appreciate y' all for having me.
- [23:11]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Appreciate you for joining me, man. Appreciate that, man. Take care. Stay healthy, man. We'll talk to you down the road.
- [23:17]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
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- [23:19]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
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- [23:21]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
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- [23:25]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
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- [23:40]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
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- [23:42]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
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- [23:45]
Sarah Spain
The U.S. open is here and on my podcast, Good game with Sarah Spain. I'm breaking down the players from rising stars to legends chasing history. The predictions? Well, we see a first time winner and the pressure. Billie Jean King says pressure is a privilege, you know. Plus the stories and events off the court. And of course the Honey deuces, the signature cocktail of the U.S. open. The U.S. open has gotten to be a very fancy, wonderfully experiential sporting event. I mean listen, their whole aim is to be accessible and inclusive for all tennis fans. Whether you play tennis or not. Tennis is full of compelling stories of late. Have you heard about icon Venus Williams recent wildcard bids? Or the young Canadian Victoria Mboko making a name for herself? How about Naomi Osaka getting back to form? To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [24:43]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.
- [24:47]
Jake Hofer
I'm Jake Hofer and this is Back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode I'll be asking eight whitetail hunting pros a focused, thought provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access?
- [25:05]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Should you? That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand.
- [25:11]
Jake Hofer
Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
- [25:17]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Football is back.
- [25:19]
Jake Hofer
That's right, the new NFL season is here and you should be listening to NFL Daily as we march along to Super Bowl 60. This is a show for sickos like me. NFL Daily is your kind of show. It's in the name NFL Daily. You'll have fresh content in your feed all season long. Myself, Greg Rosenthal and an all star cast of co hosts will preview and recap every game all season long. Josh Allen coming off an MVP season and now lateral to Allen and reaching for the pylon.
- [25:48]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Are you kidding me? It's a touchdown. Have you ever seen that one before?
- [25:54]
Jake Hofer
Rookies making a name for themselves.
- [25:55]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Run again.
- [25:56]
Kirby Joseph
Rejected.
- [25:57]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
That's a bulldozer. He is bouncing off defenders and dragged down.
- [26:02]
Jake Hofer
And of course the Eagles trying to win another Lombardi.
- [26:05]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
What a game. What a season, what a team.
- [26:09]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Eagles fans savor it and rejoice.
- [26:12]
Jake Hofer
Listen to NFL daily on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
- [26:18]
Kirby Joseph
For sure y' all be good.
- [26:20]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Oh, here's our second guest joining us two time pro bowl player in his first full season at the Seattle Seahawks. Here he is, Big Leonard Williams. Leonard, what's going on, man?
- [26:33]
Leonard Williams
Sir. How you guys doing? Can y' all hear me?
- [26:35]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
We can hear you just fine. Can you hear us?
- [26:36]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
- [26:37]
Leonard Williams
Yes, sir. I'm on my wife's computer, so I'm trying to figure out how to change the name on it right now.
- [26:42]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Oh, you mean to tell me you're not.
- [26:43]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Haley, what's up?
- [26:44]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
What's up, Haley?
- [26:47]
Leonard Williams
No, no, I didn't mean that.
- [26:51]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
LW was good.
- [26:52]
Leonard Williams
I'm good. How you doing, man?
- [26:54]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Listen, man, life is good, man. One foot in front of the other, man. I got my head high so I can see where I'm going. But before we start, before we get into football, I just want to know, do you got a nutritionist?
- [27:04]
Leonard Williams
I don't have. I do have a nutritionist on the team that I use, and then I also.
- [27:08]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Oh, yeah, well, we not using. We not using him or her no more. We're not using her no more. Listen, I'm a meal prep. I'm the NFL nutritionist. I've been appointed by the NFL for all the players, you know. So I'm gonna send you information, and I'm gonna be your meal. I'm gonna meal prep you meals for the next 17 weeks and for the playoffs. And you my second client, so I got. Is you and Kirby Joseph, and then I'm in 20 a week. 20 a week. That's all. That's all I charge. I'll be making sure prepared eat before.
- [27:39]
Leonard Williams
I'm about to tell all the rookies about this.
- [27:41]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
I appreciate that.
- [27:44]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
You get traded, you go to Seattle, and it seems like in Seattle you found a home. I mean, look, it's not that you didn't play. You didn't play bad, and. But it seems like you found a home in Seattle. Can you tell us what's the biggest difference between Seattle and New York? And I'm not talking about geographically, but I'm saying in the defenses, was it something the way the coaches, the way you received the information, Was it the way they gave the information? Is the defensive scheme. What was different about the defense?
- [28:13]
Leonard Williams
Man, honestly, I agree with you. I feel like I found a home out here in Seattle. I feel like there's a combination of things that made it feel different. So the fan base was one of the big differences. Differences? Just like the way they embrace me, the way they show up on game day, the way they support our team and stuff like that. And then also, just in terms of schematics and coaches. I feel like, you know, having AD who came from the Cowboys and then coach Mike McDonald, I feel like they just kind of created this scheme where they allow me to, like, play with freedom, and they allow me to be, like, a playmaker and use my athletic criticism, and they. They. They celebrate me for, you know, just being in the backfield and. And sometimes, like, if I'm seeing. If I see a play outside of the scheme, they allow me to, like.
- [29:02]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Go make a swim. A block.
- [29:04]
Leonard Williams
Yeah, exactly. Go make a play where. You know, a lot of times throughout my career, I feel like I've Was almost too coachable at times where, you know, I was taken away from my playmaking ability, where I was, like, trying to play a block the way the coaches wanted me to and stuff like that.
- [29:19]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
So.
- [29:20]
Leonard Williams
So there's a lot of combination of stuff.
- [29:23]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
It's so funny you just said that. We just talked to Kirby Joseph, and the one thing I asked him, obviously they have a new defensive coordinator. Right. And I said, do you still have the freedom to have free will outside of the scheme that your coach has? Will they still allow you to do that? And he said, yes. And the fact that you started everything out about your coaches allowing you to have the freedom to be able to make plays based on your football knowledge and what your eyes see instead of what it says on paper is. Is really, really important, especially for players like yourself to be able to reach their maximum potential out there on Sundays. And that. That's. That's really dope. That's really, really dope to hear.
- [30:01]
Leonard Williams
Yeah, I agree. I think it's important. I mean, for me, it just made me feel like it brought, like, the excitement of football back for me a little bit, too, which made me, like, once I started having fun, I'm like, y' all played before, so you know how it is. Like, when you're out there having fun and you're able to play free and, you know, have free will and be celebrated for it, it's like the best out of you comes out. And I feel like that's how it is here.
- [30:24]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Let me ask you this. When you're at the Giants and then you get traded, you're like, damn, has anybody ever been traded from the Giants to the Jazz or Jazz to the Giants? I mean, because it is so different. Jet fans, I mean, the jets fans and the Giants fans, they're so different. The city reacts so different to each team.
- [30:46]
Leonard Williams
Yeah. I mean, like you said, it was even though we played in the same stadium, the fan Base felt different. The culture felt very different. The jets were kind of further out in Jersey. Felt like we were like a New Jersey team kinda. And then the Giants being so close to the city made me feel like I was an actual New York team. But it was, it was very interesting. I mean, luckily I didn't have to move during that trade. I was still able to stay in my. But it was definitely weird when like that same week I got traded. I ended up playing in the stadium and like, instead of going into one parking lot, I went to a different parking lot and instead of walking down that hall to go to one locker room, I just went to a different locker room. So it was very strange. It was. Yeah, it was interesting.
- [31:30]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Yeah. How's the body holding up, man? You go going into camp, I mean, actually camp now ending preparing for week one. How's the body holding up?
- [31:38]
Leonard Williams
I mean, amazing, honestly. I mean, I have a coaching staff. Our strength staff here at Seattle is the same strength stuff I had at usc.
- [31:48]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Okay.
- [31:49]
Leonard Williams
Yes. It's really cool. So they got to see me develop as like a young player.
- [31:52]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
So they know. They know it works for Leonard Williams.
- [31:56]
Leonard Williams
Yeah, exactly. And. And we all talk about how it looks like I'm like. And it feels like I'm in the best shape of my life, honestly.
- [32:02]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
I mean, that's saying something. I mean, for a guy your size to be able to move and be as agile, because we saw. What did they say? You. You're the largest guy to ever get or what? You have a 90 yard return. A return. You're the, you're the heaviest guy in NFL history to return an interception that far for a touchdown, correct?
- [32:21]
Leonard Williams
Yeah, that's correct.
- [32:22]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
So. So how did that. So let me. So take us through that. Take us through that play. What, what, what was, what were you supposed. Were you supposed to drop in coverage or did you see something? You see his eyes are just like, look, I'm going to make this play.
- [32:34]
Leonard Williams
Yeah, that's one of Mike McDonald's genius players right there, actually, where we. It was designed for the D tackles to drop out and I actually got a pick in practice earlier in camp that year. So when that play was dialed up, like every time it's dialed up, I'm thinking I'm a play is coming my way. And it just happened. Like, it happened so fast, man. Like, people were asking me like, oh, like, what were you thinking when it happened? And I was telling everybody, it felt like it was like an outer body experience, actually. Like, I felt I was almost watching myself from like an aerial view of. Of the.
- [33:04]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
You snagged it. I mean, it wasn't like a. Like you did. I. No, bro, you. I mean, like, you played tight end at some point in time. You caught the ball, you played on the other side of the ball. You had to. That was not a defensive.
- [33:17]
Leonard Williams
From a tight end, that means a lot. But yeah, I played. I played tight end in high school, but it wasn't like much. It was like just every once in a while. I went to a big high school, so we didn't have to play both sides that much. But I'm an athlete, though, you know. Hey.
- [33:35]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Hey, you are. Were you. You from la?
- [33:37]
Leonard Williams
Yeah, I was born in California, but I went to high school in Daytona Beach, Florida. So I was kind of back and forth. California, Florida, most of my upbringing.
- [33:47]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Okay.
- [33:48]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
You got a different quarterback this year. Gino leaves the oak, goes to the Las Vegas Raiders. Income. Sam Donald, who did an excellent job last year. But you are. You play with. With Sam. In. In. In. In. In. In with the Jets. So you're very familiar with him. What. What are the expectations? What you guys. You guys had had a nice little end to the season last year. I mean, so what. What's the expectations this year for Seattle?
- [34:16]
Leonard Williams
I mean, I think the expectation is, you know, as a defense, we. We want. We have high expectations for our offense this year, but, like, we compete with each other even within the defensive room and. Sorry, the defensive line wants to be the best group on the defense, the DBs want to be best group on the defense and. And so on. But I'm definitely excited about the way our offense is looking right now. We got a new coordinator and we're running the ball great so far. It's only been preseason, but it just. It just looks like a new team with the way we're running the ball. And then like you said, I play with Sam Darnold. Nc. Nc, Sorry. On the Jets. And then I also played with him at USC for like one year.
- [34:58]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Damn. You can't get away from him, huh?
- [35:00]
Leonard Williams
Yeah, I know he keeps following me, but, like, just seeing what he did last year, I mean, you know, he even played against us really well when we played them last year against the Vikings. And just seeing the way he's matured, you know, he's bounced around, played on a few teams, played in a few different systems, and I think he's finally found his groove and matured into a good player.
- [35:22]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Most definitely. I mean, I'm excited for you guys, too, especially from an offensive perspective. Seeing what Sam Donald was able to do in Minnesota last year, obviously with Justin Jefferson and Addison Hoggerson. But then also now you got jsn, you got Cooper cup over there. Kenneth Walker, obviously taking some of the pressure on him from allowing him to be able to flourish. I think y' all gonna be fine. Y'. All. Y' all gonna be fine. So I'm excited for y'. All. Who y' all got?
- [35:46]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Week one, we got the Niners. Divisional match.
- [35:49]
Leonard Williams
Divisional match one, baby.
- [35:53]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Yeah, y', all, y' all got it.
- [35:54]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Yeah, I know.
- [35:55]
Leonard Williams
I'm excited.
- [35:56]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
9, 9ers, they hurt. They don't know who they gonna throw the ball to. Yeah, y', all, let me ask you a question.
- [36:01]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
When you. When you. When you tell me, what's your mindset? What's your thought process? Because, you know, you do you move up and down the line because, you know, oh, the great. Like, a lot of the defensive players that, you know, the Reggie Whites, the Bruce Smith, the Aaron Donalds, those guys, the Johnny Randalls, Warren Sapphire, they moved up and down the line, and they trying to turn the handle to the door and see which one opens the quickest, which one opened the easiest, and that's where I'm gonna stay. So I might be a. I might have to be a line up in a seven. I might have to line up with a five. I might get a three. I might get. Hey, I might get the nose, whatever. I'm just trying to find the weakest link because that's how it is on the Serengeti. The old and the weak get taken advantage of. That's what I'm looking to do.
- [36:42]
Leonard Williams
I mean, you said it perfectly. I mean, I never heard it described. With the opening the door thing, that's like, I'm gonna have to take that back into the D line, room in it, spread that. But yeah, I mean, I think that's something that makes me a unique player. Since coming out of college, I could play from the zero all the way out to like, six, nine technique on the edge, like. And it showed up last year. I was getting, you know, sacks at end. I was getting sacks of three techniques. I prefer three.
- [37:08]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
You like to play the undertaker, huh?
- [37:11]
Leonard Williams
Yeah.
- [37:12]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
You like that shade?
- [37:14]
Leonard Williams
Yeah, it's just less space, less stuff to look at. Sometimes when I'm out there at the end, it's like they'll try to put a receiver out there, make it look tall.
- [37:22]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Crack here.
- [37:24]
Leonard Williams
Yeah, yeah. It's all that tricky stuff out there on the edge. Sometimes when I'm on the Three, technique. I'm just. I'm getting on my man right now as quick as possible, but in certain situations, like playing against the Niners, it's a little less about finding the fish. What we call it.
- [37:40]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Oh, yeah. Hey, you gotta land him. Hey, we gotta. Hey, we gotta go here.
- [37:44]
Leonard Williams
Yeah, yeah, we got the fish. But against playing like the Niners is set up finding the fish. They actually like to line me up on Trent because they say their offenses kind of ran around him sometimes. So it's like their run game and a lot of stuff like that tends to run towards Trent Williams. So they like to put me on him to kind of, like, help shut down the run a little bit. So it's. It. It works hand in hand like that.
- [38:06]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
What's it like? Let me ask you, what's it like to get traded mid season? I mean, so they call you. So were you home when you got the news that you were traded? Were you home? Were you at practice? So. So where were you when you got the news that you were going to get traded?
- [38:20]
Leonard Williams
I was in the building.
- [38:21]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Damn.
- [38:22]
Leonard Williams
It was on. Yeah, it was on a Monday. So I came in just doing my normal routine. I was definitely hearing, like, conversations about, like, possible trade, you know, with my agent, and just the way the season was going for the Giants, you know, we were. We were losing. We were pretty much already out of the playoffs. And then the gm, like, called me into his office, so I kind of already expected what was coming. And the way he presented it to me was making it seem like I had, like, two teams to choose from that were, like, both trying to trade for me for around the same offer pretty much. And at the time, like, the Seahawks were, like, number one in the division. I knew a P. Carroll a little bit, and I just thought it was the best fit for me. It was obviously a struggle, like, coming all the way to the West Coast, Pacific Northwest.
- [39:07]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Yes. That's a long way. That's a long. That's a. Yeah.
- [39:11]
Leonard Williams
Yeah, it was long. And then I'm living in a hotel for, like, two weeks before I get situated in, like, a house and stuff like that. So it's a lot. But, you know, I even played good for those eight weeks that I was here. And I remember, like, my wife and, like, coach and teammates even asking me, like, you know, how were you able to play good even in the middle of, like, moving and. And transitioning your life and stuff like that? And for me, I told my wife and other people that, like, there was so much going on, like, out of my control. That it made me like, focus on.
- [39:42]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
What I could control.
- [39:44]
Leonard Williams
Exactly. I was fully dialed in on what I could control. So it just like the way I showed up for work every day, the way I played and stuff like that just like went to another level because I was like, oh, like I put so much more emphasis and focus on like, what I could control.
- [39:57]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Right.
- [39:57]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
What, what, what are your goals this, this, this upcoming season? From an individual standpoint, obviously, you know, team goals, you have those. Defensively you have. Obviously you have team goals that you have as a unit. But from an individual standpoint, what do you hope to accomplish this season outside of the main goal being Super Bowl?
- [40:15]
Leonard Williams
I mean, as an individual? I think I just want to like, build on the season I had last year. I feel like I was short of some accolades that I, that I worked for, and I feel like I want to, you know, be first ap, all, All Pro and Pro bowl this year and you know, maybe like 10 plus sacks, like 15 plus TFLs, just. And also feed the rest of my guys. I feel like we have a great D line right now, and I feel like at least four of us can have eight plus sacks this year.
- [40:49]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Is that, what do you feel like, the defensive tackles? Because you guys don't get the high sack totals. Aaron Donald is anomaly. A guy that plays the three tanks. That's crazy. That's unheard of. But you guys don't get like the edges. You know, the Miles Garrett and, and, and, and the Michael Parsons and the TJ Watts that's out there on edge and playing in space, they're gonna have 13, 14, 15, 17, 20 sacks. Do you feel like you guys get the credit that you deserve?
- [41:21]
Leonard Williams
I think the, the standard for D tackle definitely has changed in the last few years, and I think Aaron Donald was a big part of that. Obviously him getting 10 plus sacks every year and, and you know, 20 sacks, his defensive player of the year, you know, that was, that was different for a defensive tackle. I think, like, if you were getting like six to eight sacks as a defensive tackle, normally, that's like a good season. Yeah, that's a, that's a good season for a D tackle normally. And I think nowadays, you know, fans want to see 10 plus sacks from a defensive tackle for them to think that you had a good season. And, and unfortunately they see sacks as like one of the main stats and they don't see like all the play in, play out, run the ties, the.
- [42:06]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
The holding up so the, the linebackers can make the plays.
- [42:10]
Leonard Williams
I mean, I don't like to do all that either.
- [42:16]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
You like to play the under tackle? I already know you ain't trying to two.
- [42:19]
Leonard Williams
Yeah, I like two capping, but I want. I want to make the play. For sure. I love my linebackers, but like I said, we'd be competing in our room, so.
- [42:27]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Hey, first come, first serve, bro. I'm trying to get. I got first track. I'm closer to it than you are. I heard you're in the Magic.
- [42:35]
Leonard Williams
Oh, what you know about that?
- [42:37]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
I mean, you know, did a little research. So you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [42:42]
Leonard Williams
It's not like. It's not like pulling bunnies out of a hat, like, not like that type of magic, you know? I mean, it's a card game kind of like, similar to, like, Pokemon.
- [42:52]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Okay.
- [42:54]
Leonard Williams
You collect cards and you can play it. It's called. It's called, like, Magic the Gathering.
- [42:59]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Okay.
- [42:59]
Leonard Williams
Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I wish it's up the coast is the brand that. That makes them. And what's cool is they. They're based out here in Seattle, so they gave me, like, a tour of their facility and stuff like that. And what, you know, we've been in communication about.
- [43:12]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
So is that what you do in your downtime?
- [43:16]
Leonard Williams
I mean, I do a lot of things in my downtime. I feel like I'm pretty different from most football players. I think I started playing football later in life. Like, I didn't start playing football until I got to high school. School. And I feel like because of that, I was able to kind of figure myself out as, like, a person a little bit. I mean, I was young still, obviously, but I feel like I was able to, like, find other interests and hobbies and stuff like that outside of football. So I like to go, like, spear fishing and, like, boating and traveling.
- [43:42]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
That's what I was. I was about to ask you, being up there in Seattle, do you like to. Do you like to go fishing? Because, you know, what's the market? I went up there because you got to go to the market. If you go to Seattle, you gotta go to fish and do all that. Have you. Have you caught up? Have you been able to catch it?
- [43:58]
Leonard Williams
Yeah, of course. I went up there, like, a few weeks after I got traded. When I finally got out of the hotel, like, me and my wife, like, okay, now it's time to explore the city a little bit. So we went to the market, and, like, they all recognized me, like, right away. So they were like, big cat, you.
- [44:12]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Got to come over here.
- [44:13]
Leonard Williams
And, like, I was definitely nervous because like, I feel like I got hands. Like you've seen the intercession. Catching a wet, slippery fish is a little. Yeah, I'm like. But I, but I caught it and it was, it was a pretty cool tradition. But yeah, that's something I like to do during my, my off time, is go fishing and stuff like that. And I'm based down in Florida during the off season, so it's perfect.
- [44:33]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Hey, why you, you in Florida, sir?
- [44:37]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
A lot of the man, I'm right here.
- [44:40]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
I'm right here.
- [44:41]
Leonard Williams
Let's go fishing, baby.
- [44:43]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Listen, I free dive when I fish.
- [44:45]
Leonard Williams
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. When I go spearfishing. You be free diving.
- [44:49]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Yeah, yeah, man.
- [44:54]
Leonard Williams
He ain't buying it.
- [44:55]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Hey, hey, Leonard, I can hold my breath like four minutes. I, I could get in the spirit in the water like myself. I'm a nomad.
- [45:01]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Okay.
- [45:03]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Yeah. So, man, when you get here in the off season, man, I got you. We got, we can take my boat.
- [45:09]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Where you live? Where you live?
- [45:12]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
I'm in Southwest Ranches in Fort Lauderdale.
- [45:14]
Leonard Williams
That's nice.
- [45:15]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Yeah, let's go.
- [45:18]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
And everything later.
- [45:21]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
I do got, I do got it. I got a yacht. It ain't, it ain't mine, but, but Mickey Harrison.
- [45:27]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Ain'T nobody finishing off your yacht. Hey, let me ask you this. Would you like, would you, would you, would you go on a trip? Let's just say they say, well, they go out for. They got to bring me back. I couldn't stay out there for no two, three months. The deadliest catch, you know, they go out there to the bering sea. I might could do it like a couple of days, but they'll have to come get me.
- [45:44]
Leonard Williams
Oh, yeah.
- [45:45]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
I don't lie, the way the boat.
- [45:46]
Leonard Williams
Be almost completely tilted over. Yeah. I'm pretty adventurous and I like to do a lot of crazy stuff. My teammates judge me for sometimes, but that's one of those. I don't. You good?
- [45:58]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
You good with that? Say them Alaska king crabs, I wait till they break up, I break them. Wait till they break them to the store, I get them, then I'll buy.
- [46:05]
Leonard Williams
Them from the market.
- [46:07]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Hey, I like it. I like the T shirt. You know that T shirt. We say that legal than five?
- [46:13]
Leonard Williams
Yes, sir. That's my team from la, baby, man.
- [46:16]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Literally. Thanks for joining us, man. Stay healthy. Great. A tremendous season last year. Hopefully even better season this year, man. Thanks for dropping by. And guess what? When you get that, when you get those double digit sacks this year and make first team all pro, come back and tell us about it.
- [46:32]
Sarah Spain
The US Open is here and on my podcast Good Game with Sarah Spain. I'm breaking down the players from rising stars to legends chasing history. The predictions? Well, we see a first time winner and the pressure. Billie Jean King says pressure is a privilege, you know. Plus the stories and events off the court. And of course the Honey deuces, the signature cocktail of the U.S. open. The U.S. open has gotten to be a very fancy, wonderfully experiential sporting event. I mean listen, the whole aim is to be accessible and inclusive for all tennis fans. Whether you play tennis or not. Tennis is full of compelling stories of late. Have you heard about icon Venus Williams recent wildcard bids? Or the young Canadian Victoria Mboko making a name for herself? How about Naomi Osaka getting back to form? To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [47:30]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.
- [47:34]
Jake Hofer
I'm Jake Hofer and this is Back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode I'll be asking eight whitetail hunting pros a focused, thought provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access?
- [47:52]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Should you? That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand.
- [47:58]
Jake Hofer
Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Dan, he's Ty. Hello. And we're the Solid Verbal College Football Podcast. College football season is here and you know what that means. Your team is going to break your heart three times probably before Halloween.
- [48:21]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Uh huh.
- [48:21]
Jake Hofer
But fear not, the Solid Verbal will be right there with you through every soul crushing loss. An impossible comeback. Join us all season long, all year long, as we ride the roller coaster of this ridiculous sport. Whether you're a die hard fan or a casual observer, we'll help you make sense of all the chaos and of course celebrate the madness. Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan. We don't just love college football football tie. We live it. Listen to the Solid Verbal College Football podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [49:06]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
I'm Marcus Grant.
- [49:07]
Jake Hofer
And I'm Michael F. Florio.
- [49:09]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
And Together we host the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.
- [49:12]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Fantasy season is here. And the question is, are you ready to dominate your league?
- [49:17]
Jake Hofer
Because if you're not locked in with.
- [49:19]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Us, the NFL Fantasy Football podcast, you're already playing from behind.
- [49:23]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Every episode, we're breaking down the biggest.
- [49:25]
Jake Hofer
Fantasy headlines, injury updates you need before.
- [49:28]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Kickoff, and matchups you can exploit to bury your competition.
- [49:32]
Jake Hofer
We're talking sleeper picks, breakout stars, and the players you can't afford to bench.
- [49:36]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Whether it's rookies making noise or veterans keeping their value, we cover it all.
- [49:41]
Jake Hofer
Whether you're drafting for the first time.
- [49:42]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Or chasing another championship will give you.
- [49:45]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
The edge, the insight and the confidence to make every move count.
- [49:49]
Jake Hofer
Weekly analysis, hot takes, and insider knowledge all in one place.
- [49:53]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
So what's it gonna be?
- [49:54]
Jake Hofer
Another just okay season or total fantasy domination?
- [49:59]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Listen to the NFL Fantasy Football podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or.
- [50:04]
Jake Hofer
Wherever you get your podcasts.
- [50:06]
Leonard Williams
Yes, sir. I appreciate y' all having me.
- [50:08]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Thanks for joining us, bro. Appreciate it. The Cleveland Browns Ocho are trading Kenny Pickett to the Raiders in exchange for 2026 fifth round pick taken 20th overall by the Pittsburgh Steelers in 20 in the 2022 draft. Pickett has now been traded three times in his career. That leaves the Browns with two rookies, Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders, behind starter Joe Flacco. Stefanski has. Has not named Flaco's backup. The Raiders needed the backup to Geno Smith after Aiden o' Connell and he broke his wrist and he's going to be out six to eight weeks. So they needed a backup. Yeah, the. The Browns, like, you know what? We got one.
- [50:49]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Yes, sir.
- [50:50]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
What y' all want? What y' all try to do? What y' all try to do? Something. Y' all try to do something for two something. Cuz right now at 1 o' clock Easter time, 4 o', clock, everything needs to be taken care of. So they got this done. I like this move. Oh, I told you.
- [51:04]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
- [51:04]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
I didn't see a scenario where Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett was on this. On this roster. Two better record. I didn't see that. I didn't. So tell what you think about the move? Surprised?
- [51:17]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
No, I'm. I'm not surprised at all. Obviously, Kenny Pickett is a very, very serviceable quarterback. He showed glimpses of. Of being able to lead a team. Maybe not quarterback number one, but we saw him in Pittsburgh, we saw him in Philly when he got his opportunity to play there. And obviously due to injuries and circumstance, we weren't able to see much of him in Cleveland, but OB we seen what he could do in two other spots of Las Vegas where he's going to be now and obviously learning and sitting behind. Gino Smith is a great, great, great quarterback. Quarterback number one to sit behind and learn that offense from. And if anything goes wrong where Gino Smith goes down, Kenny Picket is a grace serviceable quarterback that can go in and lead a team to a couple of wins. Obviously, they have Amari Cooper. Jacobe Myers is upset right now, obviously wanting an extension and I think because of Jacobe requesting a trade, they obviously reach Mark Cooper and Amari Cooper has some other choices of teams he could have went to, but he chose to go back to the Raiders for obvious reasons. He gonna get that ball. He's gonna get that ball. And I mean that. That's what it is. I think it's a good thing. Good pickup for Pete Carroll and he gonna be all right. He gonna be all right over there in Las Vegas.
- [52:29]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Yeah. I like the move for both sides. Reports are out oo that Kenny Pickett, they really. The Browns really like Kenny Picket. They were hoping he would, but I didn't see a scenario where you. If you keeping four quarterbacks, you're not keeping two veterans and two rookies. No, it just, it didn't make a whole lot of sense to me, Ojo.
- [52:46]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
No, not.
- [52:46]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Not at all. Because the backup, he's not going to be your future. He's not your. He's not your future. Your future are the rookies. So if he got. If he's your backup now, you, you. You're taking ref from them. Right?
- [52:59]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
And I hate when they say stuff like that too, the way you just started that, that, that, that sentence. What. They wanted Kenny Pickett to be the starter. Obviously, if Kenny Pickett was the type of quarterback that was to be a starter and the future for the Cleveland.
- [53:10]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Browns, he would have been Pittsburgh.
- [53:12]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Yeah. I mean, no, no, no, no. No disrespect to him. No disrespect to him. He would have been that there.
- [53:17]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Yes.
- [53:18]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
When you think about the makeup in the DNA of the Cleveland Browns, they are not heavily offensive skilled in a sense where you can have a quarterback that needs more talent around him to succeed like Kenny Pickett would. You know, I think Joe Flacco is suited. Okay. I don't have that much talent around me offensively because the identity for the Cleveland rounds is their defense. No matter what. They're in the chat trying to hate the Cleveland Brown defense. It's very good no matter what you say. You can say what you want to say. So they went with the right choice in Joe Flacco. They got Jerry, Judy and Joku and they gonna have. They're gonna have to eat. Cedric Tillman. They're gonna have to eat.
- [53:58]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Yeah, they're gonna have to, they're gonna have to carry a lot of. Do a lot of the heavy lifting. Ocho.
- [54:02]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
A lot of it.
- [54:03]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
And the thing is, is that like Joe Flacco at 40 years of age and you're 18. What are your expectations? What are your expectations? Yeah, I mean, if you really go back and look at it, Joe Flacco really has, hasn't ever really been good in the regular season. He's made a name for himself in the postseason. Beating an Andrew Luck, beating a Tom Brady, beating a Peyton Manning. That's where he beat. He beat Tom Brady twice in the postseason.
- [54:31]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
I say something too, Uncle? Go ahead, quick, real quick. He beat Andrew Luck, he beat Tom Brady. Please let the chat know and understand the teams and the talent that was surrounding him. Yes, he did those. Let's remember what that defense looked like. Let's remember what the weapons he had on offense looked like. Now. It wasn't, it wasn't. Obviously it's a team game, but we can't just put this all on Flacco now.
- [54:56]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
But he was, I mean, I mean he was a. I mean he looked like Joe Montana come playoff times. Oh yeah, because he never, he never show what he shown in the playoffs. He's never shown that in the regular season for any length of time. Yes, he's had good games. He's a quarterback. I mean you don't be a quarterback for a decade plus, a starting quarterback for a decade plus HoJo, and not put up good numbers. So he's put up good numbers, but nothing that would say, oh my God, there's a reason why Ozzy traded back into the first round. It's like select Lamar Jackson.
- [55:27]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Yes, sir.
- [55:29]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
So with that being said, he beat Andrew. Look, he went to Denver, beat Peyton Manning, he went to New England and beat Tom Brady. He did that. And then he went on the road and beat a San Francisco team when Kyla Nick was at his apex without outstanding defense. When they had Navarro, Bowman, when they had Patrick Willis, when they had Smith, when they had those great, that great team, Frank Gore running the ball, a mammoth offensive line. He did that. I'll give him credit for that. But like I said, it's in the post season that he's made a name really cut his teeth and made a name for himself because there's really been no consistency in the regular season. He show you flashes like, damn, why can't we get this More, more, more, more this Joe Flacco than the other guy.
- [56:11]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Listen, Joe Flacco, what are you gonna get the Browns? He gonna give you a 5, 6 game run of wins. You're gonna be like, holy sh. Man, he did it. He did it two years ago.
- [56:24]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Yep.
- [56:24]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Deshawn went down. Boy, they went on a hell of a run with Flacco. Boy, Jerry, Judy. Wait, no, was that.
- [56:30]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Judy wasn't there then.
- [56:31]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Oh, Judy wasn't there. I think it was somebody. Somebody. That receiver was going crazy, man.
- [56:34]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Might have been Coop.
- [56:37]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
It was Coop going crazy, man. Yeah, it was. The damn show was cool.
- [56:43]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
And, and see, and that's the thing. You see what happened? He came in, there was no expectations. They won some games, and then we started having expectations for him. And then what happened?
- [56:51]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Yeah, the bottom fell out. Interceptions, turnover.
- [56:54]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Yes, yes. So this, I like this move for the, The Browns now this give Dylan Gabriel. Look, they talking about. Well, they have a name to back up. We know who the backup's going to be. Hey, I won't need a name. We already know who the backup is going to be.
- [57:09]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
- [57:11]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
And. And Dylan Gabriel is going to be the backup. It's your door when you get your reps. And because you're going to probably be Dylan to be running some of the practice, some of the. The opposing team's quarterback also, but, excuse me, the scout team offense, that's when your opportunity. That's when you show what you can do. That's the way you don't go through the motions. You take it serious. Hey, they tell you where to go with the ball. You go through your. You go through your progressions. Hey. And get the ball where it needs to go. But in the meantime, hey, you get enough that playbook and when your opportunity presents itself, you take full advantage of it.
- [57:46]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
And the good thing, and the funny thing, the good thing for Stuart as well as Dylan Gabriel as well, is when you take the scout team reps, hey, you're going against the number one defense.
- [57:55]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Absolutely.
- [57:56]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Going against the number one defense. So obviously it's, it's, it's. It's mental reps plus physical reps, but it's against the best players, similar to what you see on a Sunday. So it's just, Just not. No, ain't gonna be no walk in the park, man. Nope, ain't gonna be no walk in the park.
- [58:11]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
And I elo. Boy, I realized that day. I remember I met. I remember that thing. That was 35 years. I was rookie back in 1990. So that's 35, 36 years ago. I remember it. I would lighten them up, Ocho. Oh, yeah. This might. Hey, this might get. This my Sunday, right, right. Thursday, Friday. That is my Sunday. I'm not going to get a whole lot of reps on offense. I'm going to be on special teams. This is my. This is my Sunday. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. I'm cooking. Yeah, take it. Hey, take it easy. My ass right? Well, I'm trying to keep it. Hey, after the coach done told me that, hey, we still cut right here. Now, I just want y' all to know that it's September. I think I done made the squad, Coach. Now, we still cut, yo. Yeah. Oh, no. Oh, no, I can't. Now, how does go look, Ocho, I done made the team. I don't call home. Libby. I made it. Spank. I made it, mama. I made it. Call my homeboy. I made it. And then all of a sudden, I get cut. Ah, nah, nah. Hell nah, man. I cooked. I was cooking. I'm trying to think who we played. We played the Raiders over the week, my rookie year, man, I cooked the dude so bad. Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. Yeah, after practice, they cut him for real. Cut. It cooked.
- [59:24]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
It.
- [59:26]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Cooked. I would cook, Ocho. I was cooking.
- [59:29]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Hey, hey. It's. It's so funny. I didn't know. I didn't know the correct way to practice. I knew one thing. Do everything. Special teams. I'm out there playing around just to keep my body warm and moving. I'm at the corner. I'm running down on special teams. Scout teams.
- [59:48]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
I was a gunner.
- [59:49]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Use one.
- [59:50]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Listen, I was.
- [59:50]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Yo, I'm in year 10. To is, you know, to is obviously on the Bengals with me, so I'm peeping. I'm watching T. Okay, okay. This is how he do it. Okay. That's how you do it. Scout team come up. I'm taking all the reps on scout team to give my number ones a look. And T o pulled me to the side like, what Is how you practice? You're not supposed to. You gotta get your body time.
- [60:13]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Yeah. You gotta save them legs, man.
- [60:15]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
I say, T, boy, I take all the reps. This is. This is all I know. This I know. I say, yo, boy, he like, Ocho, boy, you tripping, boy. You got to save your legs for Sunday. I say, t, I'm gonna be all right, but this is how, this is how I've always done it. I always take the scout team. So I give the number one corners the best look. Depending on who they seeing. It's like, boy, you better than me. Because I couldn't do that. Early.
- [60:37]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Early in your. You know, I would take a couple, you know, they like want to get some work or something. But as I got older, I started getting year five, year six. I ain't got nothing for you on scout team.
- [60:47]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Real. Oh, I. I didn't know my first time thinking there was something wrong with it. Once to got there, the Cincinnati was telling me, listen, you need, you need to scale back a little. You need to tone it back. Do what you do with the ones when we're up offensively.
- [61:01]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
And you go right, you go, oh yeah, seven hard rep. But plus oo you taking. You taking one on ones too? See, I was the only tight end that took one on ones. I never ran routes against linebackers or anything like that. I ran routes against the Watt D. So I'm, I'm getting, I'm getting that and I'm getting my reps. So I. Once we got through, I do like five, six plays of 907. Mike said 84. Go down and get some work on one on one. Okay. Because you know, during the some games, I split out wide. I'd be in the flex position.
- [61:31]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Right.
- [61:32]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
But this is your opportunity. If I could tell any rookie anything, give him any advice. When you're running scout team, that is your Sunday. Yeah. That is your game. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday is your Sunday. You approach it like that, you like the. Hey, man, take it easy. No, I ain't taking it easy on nothing. When they cut that film on, they gonna see number 81 busting his ass. Cause I ain't going home. Cause I took her. You taking it easy. You want to let. Okay. Hey, bro, I understand that you a vet and you know, you and your 10 or whatever the case may be, but I'm going thousand miles an hour as hard as God will let me.
- [62:12]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Oh yeah.
- [62:13]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
And the ball gonna be coming to me too. Oh yeah. And they're like, hey, son, he's a rookie. So what you think? What you think they got gonna do, right? More than that. So you. That's for sure. I don't even know what I'm doing. I'm just, I'm just following the A. I just see the circle. Hey, that's where the ball going. Hey, let me get that right there.
- [62:36]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
- [62:37]
Sarah Spain
The U.S. open is here and on my podcast. Good Game with Sarah Spain. I'm breaking down the players, the predictions, the pressure, and of course, the honey deuces, the signature cocktail of the U.S. open. The U.S. open has gotten to be a very wonderfully experiential sporting event. To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network.
- [63:08]
Jake Hofer
I'm Jake Hofer and this is Back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode I'll be asking eight whitetail hunting pros a focused, thought provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access?
- [63:26]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Should you? That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand.
- [63:31]
Jake Hofer
Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Dan, he's Ty. Hello and we're the solid verbal College football Podcast. Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan. Join us all season long as we ride the roller coaster of this ridiculous sport. Listen to the solid verbal college football podcasts on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. We don't just love college football, Ty, we live it.
- [64:09]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club.
- [64:17]
Kirby Joseph
San Diego coming to MLS is gonna be a game changer because this region.
- [64:21]
Ocho (likely Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson)
Is been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.
- [64:24]
Jake Hofer
We need to embrace this community.
- [64:28]
Host/Interviewer (possibly Marcus Grant or Michael F. Florio)
Listen to San Diego FC behind the Flow on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [64:38]
Sarah Spain
This is an iHeart podcast.