Club Shay Shay — BEST OF NFL NEWS PART 1: Micah TRADED to Packers! + SHOCKED Saquon Barkley Voted #1 in NFL?
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guests: Michael Irvin, LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)
Date: September 4, 2025
Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Episode Overview
This “Best Of” episode brings together NFL legend Shannon Sharpe with Michael Irvin and Hall of Famer LaDainian Tomlinson to dissect blockbuster news and major debates ahead of the 2025 NFL season. The group covers the fallout from Micah Parsons’ shock trade to the Packers, the controversy surrounding NFL player contracts (especially running backs), and the astonishing result of Saquon Barkley being voted the NFL’s #1 player by his peers over star quarterbacks. The episode blends deep football insight, contract/business acumen, historic references, and the trio’s unmistakable humor and chemistry.
Main Segments & Key Topics
1. Quarterback Evolution & Tom Brady’s Critique (02:46–08:56)
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Tom Brady’s Comments: Sharpe opens by quoting Tom Brady, who claimed that today’s NFL quarterbacks aren’t as “mentally developed” as those from 25 years ago, emphasizing a lost premium on understanding defenses and pre-snap reads.
- “I felt the way to learn was play the position where, over a period of time, you truly give your team the best chance to win. To be a field general, I think you better have a mental advantage on the field. And I think sometimes that’s more important than physical advantage.”
—Tom Brady via Shannon Sharpe (02:46)
- “I felt the way to learn was play the position where, over a period of time, you truly give your team the best chance to win. To be a field general, I think you better have a mental advantage on the field. And I think sometimes that’s more important than physical advantage.”
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Irvin’s Response: Michael Irvin agrees, pointing out legends like Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees could outthink defenses regardless of disguise and always knew where to go with the ball. He notes that today’s young QBs lack the freedom to change plays at the line due to inexperience and lack of coaching trust.
- “Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, they were the best at it. … The most important thing was football. They didn’t play video games. It wasn’t no Call of Duty.”
—Shannon Sharpe (05:42)
- “Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, they were the best at it. … The most important thing was football. They didn’t play video games. It wasn’t no Call of Duty.”
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Old vs. New School Play-Calling: Sharpe and Irvin discuss how, in the past, QBs called their own plays, contrasting with modern coordination-heavy systems.
- “[John Elway] called the game. Now you gotta get out my ear. But it takes a lot. You have to put a lot of timing in.”
—Shannon Sharpe (08:00)
- “[John Elway] called the game. Now you gotta get out my ear. But it takes a lot. You have to put a lot of timing in.”
Notable Anecdote
- Patriots Practice Standard:
- Irvin describes discipline at Patriots practice, where one botched play resulted in restarting the entire period—highlighting why “the smallest things” matter in a championship program.
- “At that moment, I understood. … That one play didn’t work and it didn’t go right, we started the whole period over.”
—Michael Irvin (09:40)
2. The Running Back Value Crisis & Solutions (16:01–31:30)
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Thurman Thomas & RB Pay Crisis: The group reacts to Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas, who’s upset that star running backs get discarded after rookie deals, echoing a theme of league-wide devaluation.
- “It's like we’re hanging with the punters and the kickers. … The best years are on the tire of a car is when it’s brand new. … That’s how they look at running backs.”
—Shannon Sharpe (16:01) - LT adds, “For one, the running backs that are game-changing, the guys that can hit a home run from any spot on the field … those are the ones that have to change the game … sign shorter deals, strike when the iron is hot. Running backs, two or three year deals.”
—LaDainian Tomlinson (18:31)
- “It's like we’re hanging with the punters and the kickers. … The best years are on the tire of a car is when it’s brand new. … That’s how they look at running backs.”
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Elite RB Payouts & Cap Realities: Sharpe explains why teams are reluctant to hand out big, short-term deals to RBs—signing bonuses can’t be prorated, and rookie contract structures plus franchise tags tie up RBs for seven years.
- “I got you for five. If I'm nice, I’ll do the deal after three. But if not, I know I got a fourth year, a fifth-year option, and two franchise tags. So I got you for seven years and I ain't got to do nothing.”
—Shannon Sharpe (19:31)
- “I got you for five. If I'm nice, I’ll do the deal after three. But if not, I know I got a fourth year, a fifth-year option, and two franchise tags. So I got you for seven years and I ain't got to do nothing.”
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Who Can “Reset the Market”? LT sees Jameer Gibbs in Detroit and Bijan Robinson as future stars who might force teams to break the $20M/year threshold.
- “They gotta go above 20, though, guys, like, in order to reset the market for future guys in their position. … But the special ones, they gotta get that.”
—LaDainian Tomlinson (21:14)
- “They gotta go above 20, though, guys, like, in order to reset the market for future guys in their position. … But the special ones, they gotta get that.”
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Production vs. Payment: The saga of Ezekiel Elliott (“was never the same after he got that money”), is cited as an anchor holding the position back.
- “Zeke was probably the one that really hurt because he was never the same after he got that money. … Yards per game went down. Yards per carry, get down.”
—Shannon Sharpe (17:57)
- “Zeke was probably the one that really hurt because he was never the same after he got that money. … Yards per game went down. Yards per carry, get down.”
3. RB Skillset: LT’s Take on Today’s Stars (25:11–31:30)
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RBs Reminding LT of Himself: LT names Saquon Barkley (jump cut, balance), Jameer Gibbs (receiving, mismatch) and Christian McCaffrey as modern comps.
- “I see traces of myself in different running backs. … But when I think about coming out the backfield … Gibby, man. … When you coming out the backfield, you gotta come out fast … scare the daylights out of ’em.”
—LaDainian Tomlinson (25:19)
- “I see traces of myself in different running backs. … But when I think about coming out the backfield … Gibby, man. … When you coming out the backfield, you gotta come out fast … scare the daylights out of ’em.”
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Old School vs. Modern Usage: LT and Sharpe reminisce about the days of the “bellcow” RB, fullbacks, and physicality.
- “If I had to [share reps], I wouldn’t do it. I was selfish. I ain’t coming out the game, dog.”
—LaDainian Tomlinson (28:34) - “You were old school tight end, fullback in front of you, Lo Neal leading the way.”
—Shannon Sharpe (27:40)
- “If I had to [share reps], I wouldn’t do it. I was selfish. I ain’t coming out the game, dog.”
4. NFL Top 100 Shock: Saquon Barkley Voted #1 (35:50–47:55)
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NFL Player Rankings:
- The 2025 NFL Top 10 (as voted by players): Patrick Surtain II (#10), Justin Jefferson (#9), Myles Garrett (#8), Derrick Henry (#7), Joe Burrow (#6), Patrick Mahomes (#5), Jamar Chase (#4), Josh Allen (#3), Lamar Jackson (#2), Saquon Barkley (#1).
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Surprise at Saquon's Ranking:
- “I'm a bit surprised… we're living in a world where it’s all about the quarterback ... Josh Allen is the reigning MVP. … But Saquon obviously had a spectacular year and, you know, got close to the rushing record of a single season, but he didn’t get it. … But he did win the Super Bowl. … I think players, at the end of the day, are giving him credit for being … the catalyst for that.”
—LaDainian Tomlinson (42:03) - “We’ve talked more about the running back position in 2024 and leading into 2025 than any time in the last decade, guys, because of what we saw … Saquon Barkley, Derrick Henry, Josh Jacobs, Joe Mixon … Jonathan Taylor. … They’re trying to say, look, there is still value when used correctly.”
—Shannon Sharpe (43:22)
- “I'm a bit surprised… we're living in a world where it’s all about the quarterback ... Josh Allen is the reigning MVP. … But Saquon obviously had a spectacular year and, you know, got close to the rushing record of a single season, but he didn’t get it. … But he did win the Super Bowl. … I think players, at the end of the day, are giving him credit for being … the catalyst for that.”
Notable Moment
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“So Saquon Barkley voted by his peers as the number one player in the NFL in the top 100. Lamar Jackson was second. … For the first time a guy that’s rushed for 1900 yards didn’t win the rushing title. So that just goes to show you how well the other guy played.”
—Shannon Sharpe (45:42) -
Changing League Philosophy: LT and Sharpe acknowledge a trend back toward valuing the run—without a full return to 1990s ground-and-pound. Yet, huge QB salaries will always bias teams toward the air.
- “The easiest way to win games is still running the football.”
—LaDainian Tomlinson (47:01) - “You’re about to have a quarterback making $70 million. You’re not paying the guy $70 million to turn around and hand it to a guy that’s making $10 million. That ain’t happening.”
—Shannon Sharpe (47:55)
- “The easiest way to win games is still running the football.”
5. NFL Economics, CBA, and the Future (49:11–59:05)
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Next Phase: Longer Seasons, Bigger Money: The group forecasts 18-game seasons, more playoff games, and how networks—YouTube, Netflix, Amazon—will drive revenue and player salary surges.
- “You’re gonna be playing the Super Bowl on St. Patrick’s Day. … The only thing you can do is give them another game.”
—Shannon Sharpe (51:20)
- “You’re gonna be playing the Super Bowl on St. Patrick’s Day. … The only thing you can do is give them another game.”
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CBA, Health, & Franchise Tags:
- “If I get 10 years in the league, I want lifetime health benefits. … And guess what? I don’t want you to be able to franchise me. … That should be a bare minimum.”
—Shannon Sharpe (52:51) - Irvin: “Once I put that suit and that tie on … I’m gonna get us lifetime benefits, no franchise tag, and guaranteed contracts. That’s my three.” (54:17)
- “If I get 10 years in the league, I want lifetime health benefits. … And guess what? I don’t want you to be able to franchise me. … That should be a bare minimum.”
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Players Sacrificing the Long View: Sharpe laments how players have often prioritized immediate cash and easier working conditions over long-term security.
- “Sometimes you have to plant a tree realizing that you’re not going to benefit from the shade it produces.”
—Shannon Sharpe (58:37)
- “Sometimes you have to plant a tree realizing that you’re not going to benefit from the shade it produces.”
6. Micah Parsons Trade Fallout & Locker Room Dynamics (59:05–77:44)
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Micah Parsons Locker Room Rumors:
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Reports claim Parsons was viewed as “egotistical and self-centered” by teammates, with his podcast creating tension up to Dak Prescott.
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“You lose, first thing they gonna say is: get your ass off the podcast and practice and study your play. … If you want your podcast, you gotta be interesting, you gotta be entertaining, so you gotta take shots at other people.”
—Shannon Sharpe (60:36) -
Irvin rebuts: “If you know Micah, if you met him personally, you understand he’s a very playful, fun-loving guy. … I bet you those who don’t like him are the ones who don’t show up on Sundays.” (62:05)
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Trade Business & Agent Battle:
- The group details Jerry Jones’s refusal to negotiate directly with Parsons’ agent, while other Cowboys (Bland, Ferguson, Smith) had their deals done through reps. Sharpe stresses this as ego and control.
- “Jerry’s ego wouldn't let him work with Micah’s agent. Because I’m gonna show you, I do what I wanna do. … He worked with everybody else's representative. But for some reason, he was unwilling to work with Micah’s representative.”
—Shannon Sharpe (65:35) - “Trying to undermine Micah Parsons, you were trying to pay him not what he’s worth, obviously.”
—Michael Irvin (66:16)
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Cap Management and Player Leverage:
- “Why am I going to leave him money on the table? … You don’t give no billionaire no discount. You a millionaire.”
—Shannon Sharpe (73:58) - “When it’s time for [a quarterback] to get paid, there’s nowhere else for that team to go. … You ain’t got no choice but to pay these young fellas what they owe at the time.”
—Michael Irvin (73:14)
- “Why am I going to leave him money on the table? … You don’t give no billionaire no discount. You a millionaire.”
7. Cowboys’ Cornerback Extension (77:44–End)
- News of Dallas re-signing cornerback DaRon Bland to a 4-year, $92M, $50M guaranteed deal. The group agrees he earned it after a nine-interception, five-pick-six season.
Notable Quotes & Timestamps
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On mental aspect of playing QB:
“To be a field general, I think you better have a mental advantage on the field. And I think sometimes that’s more important than physical advantage.”
—Shannon Sharpe via Tom Brady (02:46) -
On why great QBs succeed:
“They know from watching film, they know what the hell you’re doing. … It’s all about being able to process information on what you see in front of you and knowing where to go with it very fast.”
—Michael Irvin (05:03) -
On RBs being undervalued:
“It's like we’re hanging with the punters and the kickers … The best years are on the tire of a car is when it’s brand new.”
—Shannon Sharpe (16:01) -
On RB contracts:
“Why can’t you come back to the table after two and three years and then sign a shorter deal? … Two-year $50 million.”
—LaDainian Tomlinson (18:31) -
On planting the tree for future generations:
“Sometimes you got to plant a tree realizing that you’re not going to benefit from the shade it produces.”
—Shannon Sharpe (58:37) -
On a player demanding proper pay:
“You don’t give no billionaire no discount. You a millionaire.”
—Shannon Sharpe (73:58)
Final Thoughts & Takeaways
- Modern NFL Contracts Are More Complex, Strategic, and Lean Toward Position “Value” — but outliers can still change the game.
- RBs Must Adapt to Shorter, More Strategic Contracts — and “bellcow” roles are rare, so versatility is king.
- Players Must Think Long-Term — pushing for health benefits and contract guarantees, even if that means sacrificing for the next generation.
- Micah Parsons’ Trade Is About Ego, Leverage, and Principles as Much as Cap or Talent.
- NFL Money Will Only Get Bigger — as live sports TV rights drive “unthinkable” revenue, making each contract cycle a new precedent.
This episode is a masterclass in the intersection of football, business, and legacy, brought to life by three legends who lived it all and don’t mince words.
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