Best of NFL News Part 1: Myles Garrett TURNS DOWN $1M, OSU Draft prospect Kayden McDonald got the trio CRACKING UP

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Best of NFL News Part 1: Myles Garrett TURNS DOWN $1M, OSU Draft Prospect Kayden McDonald Got the Trio CRACKING UP

Date: April 14, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe & Club Shay Shay Crew (Ocho, Joe, and Guest Analyst)
Guests: Troy Aikman (brief segment), Kaden McDonald (Ohio State DL NFL Draft Prospect)

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Episode Overview

This episode delivers a high-energy, unfiltered roundtable on NFL news with Shannon Sharpe (“Unk”), Ocho, and Joe, featuring animated debates, timely NFL updates, and a lively interview with rising Ohio State d-lineman Kaden McDonald. Topics include NFL franchise decision-making, Myles Garrett skipping a $1M workout bonus, Travis Hunter's role with the Jaguars, and an in-depth, humorous look into Kaden McDonald’s draft prep and personality.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Troy Aikman's Role With the Dolphins & Cowboys Leadership (01:22–09:16)

• Troy Aikman shares insight into consulting with the Dolphins and why the Cowboys never tapped into his connections.
• Debate on Franchise Structures: Panel examines if bringing in respected ex-players as consultants brings tangible value or is mostly window dressing.
  • Host: “You have to have a ying and a yang. You have to have a give, a pull and a push.” (06:46)
• Reflection on NFL Decision-Making: Sharpe and crew explain how personal dynamics and ownership ego impact team-building, with commentary on Jerry Jones compared to other franchise owners.
  • Host: “As long as you don't care who gets the credit, you can be really, really good.” (07:09)
• Joe’s Skepticism: Joe questions whether “intel” from outside consultants truly delivers, emphasizing talent acquisition over inside knowledge.

2. Dolphins’ and Cowboys’ Dead Cap Dilemmas (09:16–14:49)

• Dolphins in “Cap Hell”: Deep dive into Miami’s massive dead cap situation post-Tua and Tyreek Hill, hampering future moves.
  • Host: “The Cowboys are faced with approximately between 175 and 182 million in dead cap money, which is about…58 to 60% of their total cap space.” (13:43)
• Quarterback Questions: Malik Willis signed as Dolphins’ quarterback; skepticism about Miami’s new receiving corps and overall prospects.
• Team Comparison Banter: Spirited trash talk erupts over whether the Dolphins, Cowboys, or Bengals have the brighter future.

3. Kaden McDonald Interview – Ohio State Star, NFL Draft Prep, & Personality Spotlight (16:45–39:47)

Background & Path to the Draft (16:45–20:10)

• Host introduces Kaden: “He’s a 6’2, 326 lb, projected first round pick, unanimous All-American…” (16:45)
• Kaden’s Roots: From Texarkana/Arkansas, moved to Atlanta, played at North Gwinnett in Georgia – lists area “dogs” who made the league.
  • Kaden: “Gwinnett County got the best football. All the dogs come out there.” (18:00)

Mindset, Motivation, and Game-Day Rituals (19:30–24:17)

• On His Breakout Year:
  • Kaden: “Every play, I treated like opportunity…I want to be on that cover. It’s that mentality.” (19:30)
• Superstitions:
  • Shannon: “I need three blueberry cake donuts…long lineman socks…get taped, then get re-taped.” (22:56)
  • Kaden: “Before every game…I just open up the Bible, I’ll pray first, and whatever scripture comes up…I’ll just read it.” (23:51)

Draft Plans, Nutrition, Training (20:37–27:49)

• Draft Night Plans: “I’m gonna have that big Cuban on…I got my little one on right now but double it.” (20:44)
• Nutrition Regimen & Superstitions:
  • Kaden: “I’m a seafood secret…big salmon guy…superstitious, eat the same thing the whole week.” (25:17)
  • Panel jokes about Big Macs and nutrition:
    • “It ain’t the salmon. It’s the fact that you eat Big Macs. That’s what I’m telling you.” – Joe (25:42)
• Multi-Sport Background:
  • Kaden: “I’ve been hooping since I was five…in high school, I played running back…500 yards, 12 TDs…multi-sport athlete.” (26:37)
  • Host: “You carry that weight so well. How’s your training regimen…is football the only sport you played?” (26:24)

Personality, Cooking, and Laughter (35:00–39:47)

• Cooking Chops:
  • Host: “I heard you supposed to be fire…You make some fire pancakes, boy.”
  • Kaden: “Hey, man, I got that flick of that wrist, man!” (36:12)
  • Host: “You on the grill like that? What type of steak?” (36:28)
  • Kaden: “That’s easy. Easy. I like going out there. I like Maestro’s, man.” (36:40)
• On Relationships: Staying focused – tunnel vision on the draft, not distractions (37:01–38:51).
  • Joe tries matchmaking: “If you need a wife…I got some eligible people.”
  • Ocho: “Tunnel vision, baby boy. We finna live the American dream.” (38:04)
• Advice to Kaden:
  • Ocho: “Keep that dog mentality…even when you get drafted…never lose that discipline you have now.” (29:30)
  • Host: “This is not the destination. This is the journey…make your own name for yourself.” (30:17–31:09)

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4. Myles Garrett Skips Offseason Program, Turns Down $1M Bonus (41:35–44:40)

• Breaking News: Myles Garrett missing Browns’ offseason program, forfeiting $1M workout bonus.
  • Joe: “He’s not there for a reason…Sometimes the message is clear.” (42:10)
• Panel Analysis:
  • Why skip? Possible message sent to team, especially under a new coaching regime.
  • Importance of incentives—panelists discuss their own experiences (43:10–44:40).

Notable Quote

“He got his money…if he ain't want to be there, he shouldn't have took the money…A million? What you mean he ain't tripping?” – Ocho (42:07)

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5. NFL Incentives, Dead Money, and Contract Games (44:40–49:49)

• Incentive Frustration: Shannon and crew share stories of how teams manipulate incentives to withhold bonuses (notably Shannon’s 995 yards when he needed 1,000 for $100K).
  • Host: “They keep track of everything and they will not let you hit it, depending on who you are.” (49:11)
  • Host: “A hundred thousand. Hey, that's not a little chunk of chain…that got your boy about two, three years of Pampers right there.” (49:24)
• Reflection on the Cutthroat Business Side: “That football cutthroat.” – Ocho (48:52)

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6. Jaguars’ Plans for Travis Hunter – Offense vs. Defense? (57:26–62:31)

• News Update: Travis Hunter to be a full-time CB, part-time WR for the Jaguars after his LCL injury.
  • Host: “We could really use Trav…like they did for Champ, like they did for…Charles Woodson.” (59:53)
  • Ocho: “I love seeing Travis on offense, too. Boy got some hands. He electric…” (61:33)
• Debate: Can anyone really succeed as a two-way full-time player in the NFL?
  • Joe: “You can only be just good on both ends when you could just…focus on one position and be great.” (59:11)
  • Ocho: “He was a DB, but they had a package for Deion for offense…And I think that's the same way the Jaguars probably gonna use Travis Hunter.” (60:24)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Franchise credit:
  “You don't realize how successful something can be as long as you don't care who gets the credit. Jerry wants the credit. That's why he's the GM and the owner.” – Host & Ocho (07:09–07:17)

• On being Underrated:
  “My whole life, man…I felt like the underdog. And now I finally get to celebrate with…the people closest to me.” – Kaden McDonald (28:50)

• On Food and Superstition:
  “I need three blueberry cake donuts…I get a regular tape job, then I come back and I get re-taped again. But I get it taped to my skin.” – Host (23:01)

  “It ain’t the salmon. It ain’t your nutritionist. It’s the fact that you eat Big Macs. That’s what I’m telling you.” – Joe (25:42)

• On NFL Incentive Manipulation:
  “I was supposed to get a hundred thousand for a thousand yards. Joe, I had 995 yards at the half…ain’t catch another pass. They stole it.” – Host (48:13)

• Travis Hunter debate:
  “That would be too much…playing DB, then having to cover Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, then turn around and play on offense…You can only be good on both ends when you could…focus on one.” – Joe (59:11)

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Timestamps for Notable Segments

• Troy Aikman on Dolphins consulting: 01:22–03:46
• Front office, dead cap & franchise insight: 03:46–14:49
• Kaden McDonald interview (intro): 16:45–39:47
• Myles Garrett refuses $1M incentive discussion: 41:35–44:40
• NFL contract incentives and personal anecdotes: 44:40–49:49
• Jaguars/Travis Hunter dual role debate: 57:26–62:31

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Tone & Style

• Authentic, Unfiltered, and Hilarious: The episode is filled with barbershop banter, genuine player perspective, relentless jokes, and authentic mentorship.
• Mentorship: Repeated focus on discipline, work ethic, and navigating fame/pressure for young athletes (especially Kaden McDonald).
• Insider Insights: Sharpe and crew swing between serious business talk (front office, contracts, cap space) and signature side-tracked laughter (food, cars, family).

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Takeaways for Listeners

• NFL success is driven by more than pure talent—it’s about ego, front-office structure, financial maneuvering, and relentless focus.
• Young stars like Kaden McDonald must balance draft pressure, focus, and outside distractions—while maintaining humility and hunger.
• NFL contract structures reward and frustrate players, often manipulated for team benefit.
• Breaking into stardom requires preparation, mental toughness, and a sense of humor—values on full display in this episode.

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If you missed the episode, this summary brings you locker-room-level insight, laughs, and wisdom—all the key stories, debates, and personalities that make Club Shay Shay a must-listen for NFL fans.

Transcript

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[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

It's your favorite unk here. Go ahead and click that subscribe button below so you do miss a single episode of Nightcap. That button right here. Come for the sports. Stay for the story. Sat down with Clarence Hill Jr. And spoke on working with the Dolphins as a consultant in the off season. Let's take a listen. What Troy had to say, I don't know.

[Troy Aikman]

I. I think the Dolphins were wise in understanding my relationships around the league and knowing that I have information that they don't have or, or can't get. And I think smart in taking advantage of that, whether it was. Whether it was through me or through somebody else. The Cowboys have never elected to do that, at least with me. You know, maybe they have with others. But. But no, I don't. I don't feel there's a conflict. But. But I will say I'm going for the Dolphins. And I know that because. Because now I have something at stake. And I think. I think they hired two really talented, wonderful people and I think that's going to prove itself out.

[Kaden McDonald]

Now.

[Troy Aikman]

26 is going to be a toug because of the cap that took a big hit when they let Tua go. But you know, time will tell. But yeah, I'm pulling for him. I want to see him do well because I feel like my fingerprints are on it as well.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Well, the Cowboy didn't mind back then.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

You gonna trade Jordan Brooks for the Cowboys?

[Troy Aikman]

I like Jordan Brooks.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

That's my guy. Clarence Hill Jr. I've known Clarence for a while. He's always at the Super Bowl. He used to be the beat writer for the Cowboys. I think he's kind of doing his own thing now. Right? Isn't he? Or is he still. He's still with the Cowboys, but he got an opportunity to sit down with Troy, who's one of the great. One of the great players in Cowboys history.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yes, sir.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Joe, what do you think about. And Ocho, you can chime in with this man, what you think about Troy, one of the great players in Cowboys history, and Jerry allowed him to give intel to the Dolphins.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

I mean, I. I don't understand. What kind of intel is he going to have that the organization and the resources that they have that they can't find out on their own? When it comes to. When it comes to picking players, when it comes to getting players, I mean, there's film study. You have scouts, you have GMs.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

I think it's more of GMs. I think it's MORE of GMs and coaches because he gets an opportunity to talk to these people. He ain't talk. He not in. He's not in production. Meeting 20, 19 weeks of the year. Yeah, Troy is. He's not Joy. Jerry not meeting with head coaches and general managers.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

True.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

He is. Yeah.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah, but how is that picking up

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

schemes and what they do and how they operate.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, hold on, Ojo. So the Dolphins gave Aikman a job.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

They say, look, we got a couple of. Probably a couple hundred thousand or a million dollars to come in, look at. Assess what we have. Look at where you think we're weak, where we're strong, where we can get better. Who are some of the coaches? Who are some of the executives that you think would work well here in Miami?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Oh, y' all know Jerry ain't studying that. He don't need nothing.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

You. You know, none of that matter, huh? You could have Jesus and the twelve disciples in the goddamn Dolphins front office if you ain't got the goddamn product on the field.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

But who picking the players? You don't think. You don't. You don't think the people in. You don't think the guy in Detroit did a good job of picking the players he traded for golf. He picked J. Mo, he picked Gibbs, he picked Amon Ra, he picked Hutchinson, he picked all those guys. What about the guy in Chicago?

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Phenomenal.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Brad Holmes, if I'm not mistaken, is the Detroit polls. Is it? So what. So what about these guys that the guy did in Chicago? Is that making a difference? Look at where they were before those guys took over, and look at where they are now. You think High Roseman is not making a difference?

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Oh, huge difference.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

You think Brett Veach, who's picking the guys in Kansas City?

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

And I can ask you a question.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Yes.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

So do you think that the answer to the Dolphins problem is getting the answers from Aikman? Aikman.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

I think the thing is, is that they're looking for who do you think would be a fit.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Right.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

You see, the thing is, you can have a fit, but if Jerry go say, I want you to play this guy, or I want you to take that guy, but that guy might not fit the offensive scheme, he might not fit the defensive scheme, but Jerry likes him, then what do I do? And then if it doesn't work, then who gets blamed? Ocho, Just like the. Just like the Luca trade. Who gets blamed for the. The luca trade? Ocho.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Mr. Nico.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

But who made that decision? Josh Dumont up top. This is why the Cowboys don't have. Look, I think the thing is, is that Troy has access because he's doing these production meetings. He's talking to head coaches, he's talking to assistants, because sometimes, obviously, the head coach ain't leaving, but you're talking to a defensive coordinator, you're calling a linebacker coach. You're talking to this or that or you're talking to front office people and they're giving you intel. And he said, well, I think this guy would be a great fit for. For who you. For who you are, your personality.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

I think this guy would be the. Because at the end of the day, Ocho, when we put this thing together.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yes, sir.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

And I said, I think Ocho. Ocho. Why Ocho? I said, because he don't take himself serious, and he's the direct opposite of me. Yeah, I'm serious. And he barely take very little stuff serious, but he understands the game.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Right.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

So you got to have a pair. You got to have a match. I could have somebody the exact same as me, but I couldn't have somebody the exact Ocho and somebody that's the exact Ocho. That's not going to work either.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

So you have to have a ying and a yang. You have to have a give, a pull and a push.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I agree.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Look, Jerry. Jerry. Jerry. Look, Jerry. Jerry wants the credit. This thing works, Jerry's gonna get all the credit that's just the way it is. That's that A.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

And.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

And I'm a firm believer that you don't realize how successful something can be as long as you don't care who gets the credit. Yeah, Jerry wants to credit.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's why he's the GM and the owner.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

GM, owner, VP.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

I mean, all I know is Mr. Kraft. Mr. Kraft ain't that Mr. Kraft, like, he's the owner. He have a whole bunch of titles. But all I know is how many times he picked that trophy up. How many times did Clark Hunt pick that trophy up? How many times did Jeff Lurie pick that trophy up? Jerry ain't picked that trophy up in 30 years. Ocho,

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

you're not changing. You're not changing. I mean,

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

all right, not too much. Fell. Not too much. Not too much.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

But that's the thing. As long as you don't care who gets the credit, you can be really, really good. But if you start thinking about. Because sometimes you undermine your own, your own self because you care. You worried about who getting the credit, right? I want to win.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah, I get it. I still don't think, obviously, even though Troy Aikman, obviously Super bowl winning quarterback, he does what he does. Superb analyst, you know, culling commentary when it comes to helping the Dolphins franchise and changing some of the things. And I, I just. I just don't. I don't. I don't see it. I don't see it.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Tell me what you don't see, Joe, and I can help you see what you don't see.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

No, nothing. Going to see. Because we're going to see when it's time to play. That regards to who you come in there. It's not going to change until you get the goddamn players. You have to be. You got that? We haven't had the products in Damarino. We haven't had the products in Damarino.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

I don't know if you've had. I don't know if you've had a look and you hear this stuff coming out about, about McDaniels and guys possibly didn't respected him and how he talked to the players at X, Y and Z. There has to be a healthy combination. There has to be good players. But the players have to have a respect for a coach, Ocho. And it's got to be that if the players don't respect the coach, they're

[Kaden McDonald]

going to run them up.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Go ahead.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Before. Before Mike McDaniels, who do we have?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

The black guy that's in.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

That's A DC In Minnesota. Yes, he was respected. He was respected.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

He was. But the thing was, he didn't want the quarterback, that the owner overruled him.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

He what? Again, see, there's a problem. That's where the problem lies. You have someone that knows football already and. And understand what it takes to win. Listen, I don't think he's the answer for our organization going forward. So now the owner was the problem.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Yeah. My thing is, if you hire somebody to do a job, are you gonna let them do the job? If you hire somebody to do your roof, you gonna be out there, tell him what he should. How he should do it. Are you gonna let or you gonna let them both do it? Ocho, Joe, you have somebody to do a job in your house, and you up there telling. Well, you should have did it.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Right? Right?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

If you telling him what to do, why are you paying him this money when you know what to do? Just do it yourself. Yeah, yeah, but like you said, Ocho, we'll see if they get the right pieces. If this the right coach, if this the right general manager, if they could. They clearly didn't believe. They believed that they were bloated. They believe that their quarterback and some of the other pieces that they have, they weren't going to win, and they. And they went for it. Give them credit. Stephen Ross believes like, look, let's go for it. I'm gonna sign Tyreek. I'm gonna sign Bradley Chubb. I'm gonna sign a lot of these guys. It didn't work out.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah. Now they starting from scratch, boy. Scratch. It's gonna be. It's gonna be a rough, what, one or two years?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Joe Aikman said that, though, because they

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

got all that dead cap money.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

You think they got Tyrese's money, they got Chubb's money. They got tools money. Did they trade Mika Fitzpatrick? They traded somebody. They got a lot of. They got a lot of other money out there. So you got 100. You got a hundred million dollars in dead cap money. Ojo, your guppies. Your guppy's going, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Hey, listen, listen. My. My dolphin, your cowboys in the same boat, homie.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

No.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Oh, no, no.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

We in the same boat.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

We are not in the same boat as them damn guppies. Don't do that, Joe.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

When the season ended, y' all was on the same couch we was on.

[Kaden McDonald]

What did you talk about, Ocho?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

You.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

You know, y' all starting over. Ocho, come on. Stop it now. We got. We got some Promise over here, okay?

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Oh, not.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Don't do that. Don't do that.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Thirty years of our promise.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

You've been trying to get our wide receiver for the. Since the season been going on.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hold on.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

You still got promise after 30 years. You still believe that?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, we got. We got a decent team. Oh, sure.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

We're gonna be all right. Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

We just need a little help defensively.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yo, you have a decent team every year, Joe. Y' all say the same thing. Every year, Joe. You talk about delusion. This is part of it, Joe. You part of the problem.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Nah, nah, you're being naive now. You naive with them damn bangles. That's who naive.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

We better than y'.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

All.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's a damn lie.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

We better than y'.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

All.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

No. Hell no.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Okay. We'll see this year, all right?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

We play out.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

We gonna play out this year.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

I would hope not, Joe. I would hope that's not what you want.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Well, I bet the house. I know we gonna run mud hole in y'.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

All. Oh, who. Who gonna stop? Who gonna stop? Jamar.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Joe.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Who gonna stop?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Team. The Cowboys are faced with approximately between 175 and 182 million in dead cap money, which is about. Which is about 58 to 60% of their total cap space. Tua R Hill, Jaylen Waddle, where they still got him. And. Oh, I thought they.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I thought they traded.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

They traded Jaylen Water to the Broncos. So. Tua Heel Waddle and Ramsey. So, guys, they're not even on their team. And take their cap space.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

And Tyreek Hill, too, right?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Yeah, yeah. Tour. Tyreek Hill, Jaylen Waddle, and Jaylen Ramsey.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Damn.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

That's crazy. The Most ever was 127 million in 2022. So they're over almost $60 million clear of that.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Damn.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

56 million to dead calf space. Waddle is 26. Bradley Chubb is somewhere between 10.9 and 20. And also with Tyreek Hill and Jalen Ramsey.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Damn.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

So basically, over the next couple of years, they're gonna have to build this thing. They're gonna have to hit it at the park. OO and Joe with their draft pick,

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

and they draft y. Yep.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

When you in the dead. When you dead. When you got that kind of deck, you can't spend no money in free agency.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Who they got the quarterback this year?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

They got. They signed the guy from Green Bay.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Malik. Malik Willis.

[Kaden McDonald]

Yeah.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Malik Willis.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah, we got Malik Willis.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Who he got to throw to us?

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Two. Two at Will Washington. You know, some other guy? I mean, just. I mean, no. Disrespect. Just, you know, some guys, some guys, you know, they decent. You know, it ain't no Justin Jefferson's, no Jamar Chase's. And I mean nothing like that. We. We have a good. A good core receivers. We still need a dog, though.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

You do.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

You need. You need a dog. You look at what Malik Willis was able to do in Green Bay when Jordan Love went down and understand the success he had. But also look at the supporting Cass he had.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Look at who he was doing it with.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Ex. Exactly. So don't think. You sign him and you bring him into the Dolphins. Repeat the success he had in Green Bay, but he ain't got the same supporting cast, right?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hey, you watch ballroom dancing? That guy might be doing his thing, but look at that lady he doing it with. Hey, cuz, she doing all those moves he doing, and she doing it back within heels.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Mm.

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[Kaden McDonald]

Nah, I'm just kidding.

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[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

All right, we got a very special guest joining us. He's a 6 foot 2, 326 pound, projected first round pick, a unanimous All American, a Big Ten dispens lineman of the year, Outland trophy finalist, a first team all Big Ten, two time academic all Big Ten. Here he is, Kaden McDonald. Kaden. What's going on, man?

[Kaden McDonald]

What it do?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

What's happening, man?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Thanks for joining us, bro.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

K.M. k.M.

[Kaden McDonald]

What's good, man? Ocho, man, the goat. Hey, Joe. Joe from Arkansas, man. I'm from Arkansas too, man.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

What's happening, bro?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hey, didn't you.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Didn't you kind of. Didn't you grow up here in Atlanta though?

[Kaden McDonald]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was from Texas. Canada. I was born in Texas. Canada.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Okay.

[Kaden McDonald]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Wait.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Well, I knew something about you, boy.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

You good people.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

As your man. Oh, yeah?

[Kaden McDonald]

I got one question, Joe, man. Why I couldn't get an NBA championship, man?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

What you mean, why?

[Kaden McDonald]

For the Hawks, man. I grew up a Hawks fan.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

I couldn't get one, man.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Come on, come on, come on. Don't act like that now. Don't act like that. Hey, we go.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hey, hey.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I'm gonna make sure they get one here soon, though. Don't even worry about that.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Yeah. What. What high school did you go to?

[Kaden McDonald]

I went to North Gwinnett, you know, Sawanee.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

No, we.

[Kaden McDonald]

Gwinnett County. Gwinnett county got the best football. So all the dogs come out there.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Okay, yeah, they, they have.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Gwinnett county has really. They really built up all those schools out there because they've really gotten. And now you got Buford out there. You got, you know, all those big time schools out there. Because it used to be. It used to be south. It used to be the Val d', Austas, the Tiff Counties, the Warner Robins. All those schools were big. Now y' all just done took Lyons County. You guys done took over now.

[Kaden McDonald]

Hold on, hold on.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Kayden said some dogs come out of there. I need to hear names of some of the dogs that came out of that school.

[Kaden McDonald]

We got. See, we're gonna start. We're gonna go old school, we're gonna go C.J. ozuma,

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

new school.

[Kaden McDonald]

We had Josh Downs, Barry Carter.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Okay, okay.

[Kaden McDonald]

Dick, bro, Jaden McDonald, man.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

All American,

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

that.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Wait, all them. All them from Atlanta?

[Kaden McDonald]

Well, the whole Gwinnett county, we got Caleb Downs, Travis Hunter, Autumn Boys.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Okay. I ain't know that. I ain't know that. I like that. I like that.

[Kaden McDonald]

You Know.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

All right, what, what, what? Click for you this year? You're all American, obviously. 3, 6 2, 326 pounds. You can do a lot, get you twitchy, can collapse the pocket, can rush the quarterback, can stop the run. What clicked for you this year? What was it about this year? Do you say, you know what? I got all this. You put it together. So make a long story short. You put it together.

[Kaden McDonald]

What, click and I'll just say, man, opportunity.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Okay.

[Kaden McDonald]

No, I got a chance to know, make something happen. Now, I had, like, 13 games, you know, like, every play, I treated like opportunity. You know, one day I want to be on that cover. So it just like. It's that mentality, you know, I'm on the field. You know, I got the black face going. You know, I'm on it. Yeah, yeah. I'm all the way in it.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Locked in.

[Kaden McDonald]

Yeah, for sure.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. So far, right, obviously having a great season this year with Ohio State. The process, obviously your childhood dream is wanting to make it to the NFL. How's the process been so far? Has it been everything you dreamed of to date that you thought it would be before you even made it?

[Kaden McDonald]

But I'll just say, yeah, for sure, man. You know, when you a kid, especially coming from Arkansas, ain't nothing but one gas station. You know, growing up, man, just. No, it's a dream come true. You know, we ain't. I ain't never dreamed about this when I was a kid. You know, we was just living.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

No, okay, okay.

[Kaden McDonald]

Yeah, but, you know, growing up, man, it was just. We played ball. I've been playing since I was four, so, man, this been my life.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

No, hey, hey, hey. Tell me something. What's your plans for the draft, man? You plan on going down to Pittsburgh for the draft?

[Kaden McDonald]

Like, hey, man, I'm gonna have that big Cuban on. I got my little one on right now, but double it.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Yeah, put that thing on.

[Kaden McDonald]

Whole family gonna be there.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

What kind of watch you gonna have on? What kind of watch you gonna be wearing?

[Kaden McDonald]

2 tone AP.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Oh,

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Man, that boy got money, too. Yeah, he said he had the big Cubana. He said. Yeah.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Listen, I got one more question. I got one more question. Obviously, there are certain players that you watch at the next level. I'm sure there's some players that you aspire to be like or that you look up to. Who do you compare your playing style to? And who are players in the NFL right now that you look up to and say, you know what? I want to make my mark. Or leave my mark like they did.

[Kaden McDonald]

So I like, I'll be like, you feel me? I like physical defensive tackles, man.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yes, sir.

[Kaden McDonald]

Like me. I don't really, I look at other NFL players, but no, my game is special. Like, you see me on the field making these plays. You know, I had 65 tackles from a head up nose position. Ain't nobody doing that. So I'm trying to make my own mark, you feel me? Yeah, I like, but they all say like, man, Aaron Donald, Cam Hayward, you know, he came out of P.C. ridge.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

That's, that's who I would go for. Say, probably Cam Hayward, because he, he's a guy that plays like he can play the, he can play the tilt, he can play the under. Most of the time he lines up, he's the, can be the three. I mean, the head up the nose, he can be the three, he can be the five, he can be the defensive end. He's multiple, but he's.

[Kaden McDonald]

Hey, I got a question. Hey, I got a question for you. Hey, what's your superstition on like the, the game day? Like, what's one thing you got to do on the game day that you ain't tame?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Oh, man, I was very superstitious. And once I started this, even when I went to Baltimore, the trainers, I told the trainers, obviously, I have my pad, you know, double sided tape on my pad that's in there in my locker. I need three packs of big Red. I need probably like six ads.

[Kaden McDonald]

Oh my God, I need three.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

I need three. I need three blueberry cake donuts. I need long, I need long lineman socks that I'm gonna get take out my locker and I'm gonna go give them back to the equipment guy and get running back. I get taped, I get a regular routine tape job to go out there and then I come back in and I get re taped again. But I get it taped to my skin. Yeah, I do the same thing, you know, I go stand on the road, Kate. I would go stand, I would press the elevator and I would go stand in front of the elevator door that I thought was gonna open. And I had to do that until I got it right. So if it's three, four elevators, I'm gonna press it and I'm gonna go stand in front of one that I think is gonna open. And once that door open that I'm standing in front of. Oh, there we played in trouble.

[Kaden McDonald]

Yeah, I already know what you was on.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Give him that work.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Hey, hey, K. You, you had superstitions. You had a Routine that you followed.

[Kaden McDonald]

Yeah, I don't know. I just know my superstition. Like, now, I was big in my faith, so, like, every before. Before every game. No, I just open up the Bible. I'll pray first, and, like, whatever scripture comes up, and I'll just read it and like. Yeah, it's like. It's a different. It's a different meaning, like, to me when I read, you know, I read in, like, just words and like. Just words, like strength, you know, God got you things like that.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Kaden McDonald]

Like, it always comes for T, like, in real life. And like, I just forever been doing that, you know?

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah, it's so funny.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Why Ohio State? That's why. Why Ohio? What's over? You got Georgia, you got. Baby, you got all them schools and you go. You leave Georgia. I mean, you leave the A and go way to Ohio, man.

[Kaden McDonald]

You know, this. Wait, this draft, man, we got five guys in the first round, man. Hold on. I gotta give a special shout out to all the five, man. We got Caleb, man, if you in here, Carnell, Arvel, Sonny. Them boys, man, them boys some dogs, but they. We develop, man. It's a real development. Yeah, yeah, you know it prepare you every day. You train like a pro. No nutrition. You gotta be like a pro. You got to be accountable every day on and off the field.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

I like them.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You said. You said one word. You said. Well, I heard. I heard a word that I hear all the time. You said nutrition. Now, when it comes to nutrition, what your diet look like, what you eating? What they telling you to eat?

[Kaden McDonald]

Like I said, man, I'm digging that seafood, man. I'm a seafood secret, you know. Hey, shout out auntie man. Seafood secret, man. I'm a big salmon guy. I love me some salmon, okay? Especially I'm superstitious, man. I eat the same thing the whole week, man. On a Tuesday, I go salmon Wednesday, Chipotle Thursday, we gotta go. Yeah, we gotta go, big man. Shout out, McDonald's, we gotta go.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

That's what I'm talking about. Hey, see, you know what? See, simple. Just because of that, I'm telling you right now. I'm telling you right now, boy, you're gonna be great. You're gonna be great for the simple fact. Hey, listen, you. You. Not you. You eating healthy, but obviously you, you, you. You're going. You going other places, too. Like, you know, McDonald's. Was me. I was. I wasn't superstitious, but I had McDonald's. Every game I Still eat it today. And I think that's the reason for my success. You, you don't get hurt often. You know why you don't get hurt hurt often? It ain't the salmon. It's not your nutritionist. It's the fact that you eat Big Macs. That's what I'm telling you. That's what it is.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, Mac. Hey, Mac, listen, how much you weigh, bro?

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Three.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

What?

[Kaden McDonald]

Like 325 right now. Solid.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Oh, that's light.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's light for him. When I watch you on the field,

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

are you so nimble?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

So you carry that weight so well. How's your training regimen? Like, how you getting them? Like, is football the only sport you ever played, bro?

[Kaden McDonald]

Man, you gotta really look me up. You gotta do your research, man. I've been hooping since I was five, man. Yeah, I really wanted to become a hoop. I really wanted to become like you, man. I used to go to the game. I see Joe Johnson, you feel me? Mike Bibby, Jamal Crawford. Yeah, man, yeah, all that. But nah, I played. I was a multi sport athlete. You know, in high school, I played running back. I had like 500 yards, 12 touchdowns.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Damn.

[Kaden McDonald]

And I was a dog. Damn.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Okay.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Oh, you was told that pig, huh?

[Kaden McDonald]

Yeah, for sure.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

But see, you see what happened K. When you start eating the Big Macs, you grew out of running back position. See, if you gave up the Big Macs and kept eating salmon, you'd have been a running back. You'd have been Jir Gibbs, but you'd have been De Hen.

[Kaden McDonald]

Hey, hey, what. What would be my nickname if I was a running back?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Bruno.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

They call you Big Mac. Big Mac? Yeah.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

You cu. You been running over people? Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah. Your name be Big Mac.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

What? You'd have been running. You'd have been run. Hey, so in what position you playing? Basketball. When you the point, you the center. You, You. Hey, you the two.

[Kaden McDonald]

I did it. Oh, man, I'm like point guard, man. I gotta facilitate the offense, man.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Run through me. Oh, you gotta run through me.

[Kaden McDonald]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Could you dump? Could you dump?

[Kaden McDonald]

No, I was.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

I was a floater.

[Kaden McDonald]

I'm floaters.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

There you go.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Oh, you. Oh, you. You let the take over.

[Kaden McDonald]

Yeah, I like it.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

I like it. So, I mean, obviously, as Ocho asked you to say, you know, this was a lifelong dream. You grew up, you know, playing in Texarkana and later moving to Atlanta and then playing the game of football. You played at jv, Pop Warner, JV High school football, college football. Now everything that you had is right there. We're two weeks. We're basically. We're two weeks away. Yeah, we're two weeks away from the draft. Two weeks. And everything that you had hoped for and you dreamed about, you prayed about, you said you're a man of faith. It is about to happen. Have you thought about in that moment, are you gonna get emotional? Are you gonna think, you know, like, damn, mom, we did it, bro. So we. We here now.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

We.

[Kaden McDonald]

Man, I think about that every day. It's getting closer. We two weeks away. No, just. Just like the whole life, my whole life, man. I just. I felt like the underdog. And, you know, I finally get to celebrate with the people that's the closest to me, you know? Mama, no, Mama, no. I got big bro, sister, auntie, all the fam from AR saw coming.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Kaden McDonald]

You know, so. Yeah, my best friends from Georgia. No, it's gonna be. It's gonna be a good night. And just all the work I put in, it's a lot of sacrifices you gotta make. I know as a kid, like, back at home, that's looking up to me. So, you know, I gotta make that happen so they can do the same thing I'm doing. And that's my motivation.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's what's up. Hey, hey, K. Mac, one thing I'm gonna tell you, bro. I know you probably working your butt off right now because, you know, you. You about to, you know, approach a lifelong dream. The one thing I'm gonna tell you, bro, keep that. Keep that dog mentality even. Even when you get drafted, even when you get that, like, never let your foot up. You know what I mean? Keep working hard, bro. And I always remember, you know, never lose that discipline that you have now. You know, the workouts that you gotta go through, how you eat, man, when you get in the NFL, bro, don't let up, bro. Don't let up.

[Kaden McDonald]

For sure, you.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

You sure hunger. Because a lot of times what happened is that they. Okay, my lifelong dream was get to the NFL. Well, now, because you.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

You.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

This is not. This is not the destination. This is the journey. Your destination is once you're done with your career. So that. That same drive and determination that you got up every. And trained for in high school and what you did in college, because the scouting report said you're a striker, which lets me know you great with your hands and you feel you like I'm physical. And the one thing I know about Matt Patricia, he knows how to come up with the run game. You got to be great with Your

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

hand

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

trying to go somewhere, get up on you. Trying to get up on the line,

[Kaden McDonald]

back a little bit.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Oh, you're right here, Shan.

[Kaden McDonald]

Yeah. Coach Matt, Patricia, you know, he. He put a lot on my back this year, and there's all. It's one thing he always be telling me, he be strong in the middle. You know, that's where it starts, man. You know, that's where it's gonna. That's where it's gonna end.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Everything.

[Kaden McDonald]

And I just took it personal each game, you know, now we here draft. So, man, it's a blessing, you know?

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah, you. You go. You're gonna be all right, you know? I know you're gonna be all right because I asked you who you compare yourself to, who you is, the people that, you know, you inspire to be like, and you said, nobody do it like you. You said, nobody do it like you. That let me know you going in with the right mentality, the right mindset, and you can make on your own name for yourself. So go in there, call some goddamn havoc. Talk a little too. Don't be scared to talk no. Talk a little too. Let them know you here. You know, I've arrived, so. Man, I wish you nothing but success, young bull. And maybe shoot, we might end up in Cincinnati.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Well, it looks like the Bears, the Vikings, Buffalo, Houston, and Pittsburgh have all been labeled possible land.

[Kaden McDonald]

Where you get that from?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Their preference. Are you just. Where you get that from? My source, but don't worry about it. You say, do our homework, do our research.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

My source, you tell us to do

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

our homework, we do our homework. Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Oh, so, hey. So you don't. You don't been to a few of these places?

[Kaden McDonald]

Yeah, I've been to a couple. I met with pretty much every team, you know?

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah, you met. You met with Cincinnati on Monday?

[Kaden McDonald]

I am. Yeah.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

It's a beautiful. It's a beautiful place over there.

[Kaden McDonald]

Yeah, I'm in Foxborough right now.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Oh, okay.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Okay, okay.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

So let me ask. Let me ask you this. Okay. They come in and they say, you know what? Hey, Matt, Big Mac, what type of player we get? Tell me. I'm the gm.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I'm.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

I'm in charge of personnel, and I'm doing all the hiring, I'm doing all the draft. And I come in and sit down. I'll say, hey, Tim, what type of

[Kaden McDonald]

player we get, bro, it's only like three words, man. Day one, impact. Day one, impact.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, that's it.

[Kaden McDonald]

Yeah, they want impact. That's all I. That's what I That's what I really say to the gms. And they. They know for sure.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hey, cut the tape on.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

That's it.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

That's another three. Tell me what you see. Tell me what you see when you see me. Tell me what you see.

[Kaden McDonald]

You know, you got. You don't have to say too much. You don't got to tell them a story. They already know who you is. They already did their background check on you, right? So you can't lie to them. You just tell them straight. That's how I be, you know?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Yeah. They don't done the hard work. They know everything about you.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

They don't.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

They know your favorite food. They know where you like to hang out at. They know where you like to shop at. They know your. Your dessert. They know. They already know. Oh, yeah. Oh, you got your Nazi. You got your nice little car. You got you.

[Kaden McDonald]

Hey. Yeah. Right now, Joe, what you drive right now, man. I know you got some.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Man, I ain't. I ain't got. But I got a Range Rover, bro.

[Kaden McDonald]

Oh, that's smooth. What about you, huh?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Man, you know, I'm old. I gotta. I got a 2012 Range Rover and a 20 and a 2. I got a. I got a 20, 20, 760 BMW. I got an electric BMW, and I got that ghost Hellcat. O.J.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

what you got, Ojo?

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Cybertruck? Tesla. McLaren 720P. Lamborghini.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah, my Smart Car. And shoot, that. That's. That's it. I just.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hey, man, Andy owe me limb and he owe me a limb Hunt a limb. A limb. K. And he got all them cars.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

He don't pay no dead K, man.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

No, hey, hey, I just. I just bought my daughter. I just bought my daughter a Tesla two days ago. So she happy. She. She hype.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

You know what I'm saying? He doing all this stuff. Hey, look, Cat, man, what you do? What you do? I mean, you. Have you ever live somebody some money and every time you see him, he got on fresh. He got a new chain, he got on a new. He got a new. He got a new chrome.

[Kaden McDonald]

He got on some new kids, bro, I be seeing. Bro, that just be crazy to me. Like, dang, you owe me that honey, man. I just. I see you with some new pants. Like, come on now, man, just give me my honey.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

I'm just gonna come back through.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Nah. But hey, K. Mac. K. Mac. This is what you don't understand, right? For unk's sake, I owe him 11,000. Right, but that's for emergency purposes only. So if you need it, just hit the glass and then boom.

[Kaden McDonald]

He been hitting the glass.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

He been hitting the glass. Yeah.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Now, he good. He good. He good. He got about 70. He just named 17 cars. What do you need my 11,000 for?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hey, hey, he buying chrome hearts. You know, chrome hearts ain't cheap. He buying chrome hearts. He buying lv. He got Burberry. He got all that stuff.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Hey, see. Hey, K. Mac, this way. He don't understand. I go to the boosters down here in Miami. I don't pay full price for nothing. They said they come to the barbershop, they come to the car shop, they said everything happened.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Well, booze my limb.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, K. Mac, look, on Nightcap, bro, we. We be looking for hidden talents. And I heard. I heard that you supposed to be five. You can make some five pancakes, boy, you put it down like that.

[Kaden McDonald]

I can put it down, man. Hey, man, I got that flick of that wrist, man.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

What?

[Kaden McDonald]

Hey, for real.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Hey, so you. You a chef, too, man.

[Kaden McDonald]

I do it all, man. Whatever you need. What you need me for? You, man, when I couldn't see you, man.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Oh, you on that grill.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hold on.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hey, Mac, you on the grill like that.

[Kaden McDonald]

What type of steak? How you want to cook, man?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Stop playing.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Hey, you know. You know. You know. You know how to cook the. You know how to cook the wagon steak.

[Kaden McDonald]

That's easy. Easy. Yeah, okay. You know, hey, I like. I ain't gonna lie. I like. I like going out there. I like maestros, man. What's y' all steakhouse? Y' all don't do the steakhouse, y'.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

All.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Oh, what y'. All. Oh, you had buttercake.

[Kaden McDonald]

Buttercake. Every time that.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Buttercake like that. So let me ask you this. You got a lady?

[Kaden McDonald]

I don't got no lady right now.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

I was gonna say if you had if, because. Okay, let's just say you. You meet this lady, and you are. You kicking it, and you want to. You want to bring her over and you want to cook a meal for her. What you cooking? What you dropping on the table, man?

[Kaden McDonald]

First of all, like I said, I'm gonna just go. We gonna go salmon to go. Salmon, salmon, Green beans and rice, man, we're going to have to keep it, you know, healthy. You got to. You don't want to do too much.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hey, hey, hey. What you doing for dessert, though? That's what's up. That's what's up. But y' all shout out, man.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Ain't nobody even said nothing.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Yeah. Cause we know what's up?

[Kaden McDonald]

Hold on.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

K. Mac. Hey, K. Mac, Check me out, right? Listen, you know I'm down here in Miami, right? And you know I know a whole lot of people, right? So if you need. If you need looking for, you know, a wife, a girlfriend or something, I got some eligible people.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Ton of vision, baby boy.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hey, I was waiting on you to say that, Joe.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

We ain't that. None of that Ocho talking about. Look here. Hey, man. Hey, man, we finna live the American dream.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

You hear me?

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Hey, anything?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

They're here.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Tunnel vision, that what we got everything over here, man. Them just distractions, homie.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. K. Mac, I hear what he talking about, but listen. What's the American flag without the stars? Huh? You hear me? What's the American flag without the stars? What's the American flag without the strike? Now, we talk about. He talking about the American dream. Ain't no American dream without someone stay locked in.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

K, man, trust me, bro.

[Kaden McDonald]

Got you.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

And you know what they read when they did the original American flag, it only had 13 stars. They added some more, so you can add some girl. Once you get about three, four, five years in the league, you can add some songs.

[Kaden McDonald]

Hey, I'm listening to Joe right now, man.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

There you go, man.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hey, congratulations on all the success, man. You got a great personality. You're going to be very successful in this league because you have what it takes. You know what it takes? You have that. That discipline, that physicality, that desire to be great. We're gonna be watching you at Nightcap. Hey, when you get drafted, call. Call us. What? Back up. We want to talk to you.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

One more thing. One more thing. Whenever you come back to Atlanta, whenever you come to Atlanta, come holl at your boy. We do some hot yoga. I make sure I keep you right. Keep you nimble.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Make sure you feel me.

[Kaden McDonald]

All right? That's cool. That's cool.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

I'm gonna come, too.

[Kaden McDonald]

That's cool.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

No, hey, hey, hey, hey, Mac. Mac, we. Me and Joe get up. We'll get at you offline. We'll talk to you later.

[Kaden McDonald]

Yeah, yeah, I got y', all, man. Hey, man.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

All right.

[Kaden McDonald]

Hey, man, I gotta get some rest, man. I gotta get up early, man.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Appreciate you stopping by.

[Kaden McDonald]

We're gonna tap in already. All right.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

All right, Twin. All right.

[Fan/Caller]

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Well, you're going to take a left at the old oak tree at this here road.

[Kaden McDonald]

Nah, I'm just kidding.

[Fan/Caller]

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[Liberty Mutual Partner]

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[Liberty Mutual Partner]

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[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Miles Garrett skipped the start of team's offseason program. That puts him on Track to lose $1 million in 2026 compensation. Garrett Contracts includes a 1 million dollar workout bonus in 2026. To earn it, Garrett must participate.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I can't hear you. We can't eat. Hey, what's happening? What's up?

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Hey, Joe. Man, Miles ain't. Miles ain't tripping about that, man.

[Kaden McDonald]

Please.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

A million. What you mean he ain't tripping?

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Well, we talking about Miles Garrett. Boy, he's not there for a reason, huh? Sometimes. Sometimes the message is clear. The met. The message.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

What's the message?

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Ojo, man, he don't want to be there, man. Come on now. Come on now. He don't want to be there.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

So you think that's why he ain't showing up for the. For the. For the many accounts.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah. He ain't never missed before. It's OTAs. Obviously. OTAs is voluntary. It's in your contract. You don't have to come, but if you don't come. Obviously you miss money. He never, he ain't never missed before, I'm sure. Don't quote me. I'm just saying why would they make it a story now if he's always been there? If he's always been there, he's not showing it this year. He's not showing this year.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hell, he got his money. Ocho, he took the money. If he ain't want be that, he shouldn't have took the money. He took the money.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Come on, Joe.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I mean, we got.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Can you guys hear me?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, we hear you.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Oh, but here's the thing though. Oo, what do they have? New. What is, what's different coaches. A new coach.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

A new system.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yes, sir.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Remember we had this, the same thing with Lamar. We had this conversation about Lamar, new system. So. And look, I'm like, Joe, if they had a million dollars in my contract. But like I said, he was trying to give me $50 a day. I said, the hell with you. I said, I worked my last $50 a day job when I was in Glenn, when I was landscaping back in college. I say ain't no more 50 a day for me.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

But I got a que. I got a question for you. And think about this. Someone like Miles Garrett, you know. Yes. As well as he played last year, as well as he played in general, someone like that, that is as valuable as they are, who is the identity, not just that defense, but the identity to that franchise. They still won what, five games, four games or whatever it may have been.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Why?

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah, Joe, why not give him the opportunity to go somewhere else and give him a chance to win? Why not? Because you losing with probably the greatest defense in that's playing in today's game. Why not give him an opportunity to do that?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Well, maybe they.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

And I think the message to me, I mean, I mean, I don't know, maybe I'm. Maybe I'm tripping chat. You can, you can let me know if I'm tripping. But to not show up to OTAs, which you've always have, and there's a new regime, new culture, staff, new defensive scheme, new officer scheme, everything being implemented in. And you don't show up. I mean, I mean the message has always been clear. He doesn't have to come out and say it. You're actually, you're asking and show. Okay is enough. Is enough. I might be wrong.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

I kind of thought that like, okay, a new, like a lot of times, like with new coach, with a new coach come, you know, they can have three Minute camps. You get in, you want to, you know, show your face as a leader, you know, learn the defense. And plus a million dollars, I pick up a million dollars while I'm doing that. But, I mean, it'd been tough for me because when I'm there, I'm there. I really, I really didn't, like, go home like, like, you know, off weeks and stuff like that. Like, you know, some guys, like, we get off and we wouldn't have to be back until Wednesday, and some guys would go wherever they go. I was never like that. So when I was there, endeavor, I was there. Once I left, I wasn't trying to be back until I absolutely had positively had to be back.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah, I ain't. I ain't do that. I ain't do that, Joe. We had. Our off season program was 13 weeks. It was Monday through Thursday, Friday, Friday through Sunday was off. Nine times out of 10 that Friday, Friday through Sunday, I'm going back to Miami. And I would always. I always do the morning work on a Thursday, and I get on the flight Thursday evening, fly to Miami, relax here, don't do anything. Probably do some training as well, Relax Thursday, then back on the plane Sunday night, and then repeat. It was a 13, 13 week program. It was fun. I really enjoyed it. Because I'm a gym rat, Joe. Hell, I can't stay out of the gym. I can't stay out the gym now. And I don't play nothing. So you could imagine back then when I was playing. So I was excited to go to the off season program and just see the fellas. Man, it was cool to see the fellas.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Jeez, I was trying no fell.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey,

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

I. I remember my rookie early on, because Dan, that was a big thing for Dan. You had to be there. I was like, man, I sure hope I can get good enough one day. I don't have to come to this. As soon as I got good enough, I had to come to the East.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Oh, yeah.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hey, you one of our leaders. I'm leading from Atlanta. That's what I'm leaving from. I'm leave for Atlanta. No, no, no, no, no, no. Y' all not paying. Y' all paying him to lead. He making the big bucks. Y' all ain't paying me to leave. I'll be in Atlanta. And besides. And then Mike just came to the realization. Say, you know what he's like. I remember in 96, I didn't come. I didn't come. I didn't come back. I didn't do no off season program. And he was like. We was out there practice. He said, let me see what you're looking like. So I pulled my shirt up. He like, you ain't never got to worry about coming back, obviously.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

And you had the mass of your stomach, huh?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

What? Joe Shredded like a trump tax return.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Hey, Joe. That's what I look like now, Joe.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Yeah, well, hey, man, that way. That boy. Wait. Look like a 10 email. It's gone. Disappeared. I like that. Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

But I, I, I'm like. I'm like Joe, though. Ocho, you know damn well if the Bengals put a million dollars.

[Kaden McDonald]

Yeah.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

No matter how much you, you ain't letting that go.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Hey, my. Mine was only 250, and I was

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

there for a million.

[Kaden McDonald]

Yeah.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Oh. I mean, I'm.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I'm there.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

I'm there. And you know. You know what's funny, too? When it comes to my craft in general, you don't have to incentivize for me, because I. I love what I do.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Yes.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

I love working. I love training. I just. I love being in that environment. But just the fact that to be there. You mean you're gonna pay me this to be there?

[Liberty Mutual Spokesperson]

Yeah.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

And I already now already like to do it anyway. Well, hell, shoot.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

No, no. But see, the thing is with that, I did away with the centers of my contract after they screwed me out of that 100 grand. I ain't put no more incentive.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

What you mean how they screw you out that 100 grand? What happened?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

God, man, I'm supposed to get a hundred thousand for a thousand yards. Joe, I had 995 yards at the half. I had 116 yards and two on six catches and ain't catch another pass to stole the second half.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Hey, they did that on purpose.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

I know they did.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

And guess what? I ain't put another. Somebody you want to see that. I want nothing. Cause y'. All, Y' all gonna pay me what y' all supposed to pay me. And I'm supposed to lead the team and catch it. I'm supposed to lead the team in yards. I'm supposed to be an All Pro. I'm supposed to go to the Pro Bowl. I don't need y' all to incentivize that because y' all paying me enough. That's what I'm supposed to do. I don't need no extra.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Hey, Joe, they play that game.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, I know. Hey, I ain't gonna lie, boy. That football cut, though.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

That football.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Hey, Joe, they play that game with a lot of people. Where you have incentives, you need a catches, you need certain yards. As a running back, they would play with you if you're being on the field, a certain amount of snaps, all that stuff, they. They keep track of everything. They keep track of everything and they will not let you hit it, depending

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

on who you are.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

And they do it on purpose every time. Like that. That, like that little chunk of change compared to what they have is gonna make a big difference.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Cause you got to realize 100,000 was a lot of money to me because I was only making 325.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Right?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

A hundred thousand. Hey, that's not a little chunk of chain.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, right.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Yeah. And you know, I had. Hey, I had three. Yeah, Pampers. Got your boy. That got your boy about two, three years of Pampers right there. Hey, daycare, man, you know, daycare was expensive back then. I don't know what daycare is now, but I know it's expensive.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah. Yes.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I can only imagine.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

I mean, you. Hey, you gonna know what it's like soon.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

And now Joe might. I don't know nothing.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

I thought we talked about this, fellas.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

No, we. No, no. You and Joe.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Hey, hey, you know what? You know what? I just thought about. Think about this. Think about how. How other ethnicities, other races, they plan having their kids at the same time so they could do everything together. Can you imagine all us, you know, with our babies pushing strollers at the park?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Nah, I can't imagine that. Nah.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Pretty soon, somebody had to push me. The baby me. That's gonna be my big ass with the chair. What the hell you talking about, man?

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Hey, it's a. It's a movie. It's a movie. It's a movie like that. I can't remember what movie it is. I think that would be dope, though. Like, that would be. That's. That's a movie. That's a tv. Listen, that's a TV series in itself. Oh, you know, nightcap with the kids.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

I'm already sitting in the third seat. I'm already sitting at the very back with the thing pulled down with my leg on top of it. I'm done, Ocho. I told you, I'm a practice. I'm a practice. I'm doing all I can, but I'm going to code. Don't put me in. I don't know no plays.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, hey, hey, Ocho, your boy over here. I ain't doing nothing but shooting blanks, man. I cut the line over here. Yeah, line cut over here, man.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Oh, man, God ain't. God ain't gonna.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I'm already playing.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

I ain't got no doggy water.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Come on. But now, come on, Joe. You mean you did that, Joe?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I struck out, Ocho.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

I got three.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Three strikes out, baby.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah, but, Joe, you weren't supposed to cut the line. Because odd numbers is bad luck. Joe, is in the Bible.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Ain't no bad luck. Your boy ain't doing nothing shooting blanks, man. That's all right.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I'm like, oh, me and my lady, we just practicing. We ain't. We just practice.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

That's it. That's it. Oh, Joe, I ain't got no. But some pond water in me. This ain't strong at all.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Damn, man, I can't believe.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hey, Jason. This is water. Ain't got no bubbles to it. This ain't no sparkling water over here. You know that Old fears. They say, what you want, flat or sparkly? Give me flat, because that's all I got in the flat.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Hey, man, y'.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

All.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

And y' all done messed up. That was. That was. I. I just had. I. I envisioned us having a TV show as new fathers, you know, after 40. I mean, listen, Netflix was gonna pick that up.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, hey, hey, now, if you. I can reconnect it. I can reconnect the line now, but it's got to be worth it. Yeah. I mean.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Oh, I'm talking to Netflix because they. They approached me about it. I say, listen, I'm gonna talk to the fellas and see what they want to do.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Oh, man, I ain't gonna hold y'. All. That y'. All. Y'.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

All.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

There we go, Joe.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

There we go. Joe, I ain't gonna lie to you. I wish. I wish I could tell you something, but I ain't got it.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

I ain't gonna hold you right, but because of who you are, because the value in which we possessed, you know, they was talking. They were talking, you know, north of 400 million, huh? Boy, listen, I ain't tell you what I heard. I ain't tell you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know, boy.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Look here. Hey, but they. They. They have to take your sausage out of Casey. I have to take it out of case. Come on, now. Hey, that's not a bread.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Hey, hey, hey, listen. I'm just telling. I'm just telling you what they told me. Now, it was a conversation in vague. You know, And. And. And I. I was vision, like I was giving them the play and the possibility of it happen. Happening. I'm like, man, that would be dope. Because no one has ever had anything like that. Nobody. At the same time, you know, I'm just. It. It do wonder. It do nothing.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

You know what? You know what, guys? I'll be honest with you. If we. If I was close to y' all age, if I was in my mid-40s, I said, you know what, guys? Let's do it. And I'm down to 60 years old. Hey. And by the time. Hey, by the time that thing set in, you know, I have to catch. I have to catch one. When she just right. About seven days afterwards. Catching just right. Probably about four, five times a day for like, three, four days, right?

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

You good? You good. That's where they got them roast balls, man.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

I'm 78, 76 years old, going to a high school graduation.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

What's wrong with that?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

It's about. They talking about Luke Sterling, because I would. I would name him after my brother. Little Sterling. Your granddaddy out here, that's my daddy food.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

I don't know. I mean, them numbers. Them numbers sounded real good, which is

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

why they do sound good. Ocho.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hey, mama. Changing two sets of diapers. His ain't mine. Hey, pick up some diapers for me or for him?

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Oh, man, that's funny, bro.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, well, I know what you mean, boy.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

I don't know what that thing.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Joseph, I reconnect the line, Man. Oh, you out of the damn, man, Ocho. You got eight.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

I, I, I know, I know. I want twins.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

And I'm gon.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

That'll put you right at a. Not only will you have a starting vibe, but you got a be, too.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah, and my. My bent. My bench is gonna be just like okc.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Damn. I'm saying, how many. How many boys you got, Ojo? Damn, you only got two.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah. Hey, yeah. My son. My youngest son here, he played receiver at Noel, and he. He here with me now.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Damn.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

You only got you. So you got. Hold on. You got six girls and two boys.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

You know, they have enough. But you gonna have twin girls. They have eight and two.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

I'm have two. I'm doing FBI.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Make sure you have boys.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Ain't no FBI. In vitro.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

I said FBI.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

IVF in vitro fertilization.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, that.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Yeah. No FBI. They investigate. You don't need to investigate nothing. Nah, hell no, man, please. And that. And you are a. You don't want that because you already know, man. You don't know how much that cost, man. Those things cost.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

What?

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Man, that's Expensive.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

No, it ain't.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

IVF.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Come on. IBF probably what, maybe two.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hell no. It's about 20, 25K.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

2025, 30,000.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Man, don't, don't let them people rip you off. Come on now that's a rip off. Now you, you have to, you have to go to multiple places and, and do, and do the price comparisons. Like

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

they mess around and put a chicken egg in your girl in somebody backyard. You'll be like gay. You be a gay man gave birth to a two pound hen. You better go, Joe, he better go to a record. Hey, you be like the people that be suing. All of a sudden it's a white couple and they got a black baby or this black company. They got an Asian man. You better, you better go to somewhere you talking about.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

You trying to say somebody backyard talking about.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Man, please. Yeah, they got, hey, they got a chicken baster like they put gravy on the turkey.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Hey, that's, that's funny.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hell no. I'm good, man.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

I got you.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

The Jacksonville Jaguars expect Travis Hunter to be a full time corner and a part time receiver. Rappaport as Hunter is expected to be a full participant in training camp. As he continued to recover from an LCL tear that ended his 2025 rookie season. Hunter snap count weighed heavily favor of the offensive side of the ball. Last year overall in 2025, Hunter saw 324 snaps on offense, 162 snaps on defense. So hold on, Joe, what in Rappaport is reporting?

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yes.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Is what you and I have been saying. Yes, yes, go ahead, go ahead, take it. Y' all want, y' all take the conversation. One of them guys to say I told you, right?

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

I mean, I mean Joe and, and, and obviously Travis, Travis, his dream was going to the NFL. He said it to multiple teams is I'm hoping to do exactly what I did at Colorado. I want to be able to play both sides of the ball and be able to impact the game on both sides of the ball. Unk said, and I said as well, and I agree with him, that would be too much because of the level of talent and elite players at same position. Think about it. Travis Hunter playing db, then having to cover Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, you know, and some of the, some of the elite wide receivers in the league and then having to turn right back around and go play on goddamn offense and play receiver and then still be of value and being very, very tactical and technical when it comes to playing a position. So at that point you can Only be just good on both ends when you could just. We could focus on one. One position and be great at defensive back, which you really good at. And then have packages to play on offense, which you can also be impactful, where they have special plays designed to. Just for you to get the ball. Because with the ball in your hands, well, you are special. Special, but a full time. It's perfect.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

It says in the wake of Hunter's injury last season, fans were calling the Jags to choose just one position for Travis. Though we could see Hunter get some snaps at wide receiver in 20, 26. It looks like he'll be dedicated. A dedicated cornerback for the foreseeable future. That's what he's saying. It's easier, Ocho, I mean, in order for this. And I didn't think, like, he's like, oh, I could do. I said 130 snaps a game.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

I said it's easier for him to play corner and build a couple of packages in Ocho. We got a couple of sets like they did for Champ, like they did for some of the other guys, like they did for Time. There have been other guys that played Charles Woodson. Yeah, Woody. Roy Green actually started off as a corner, got some plays at wide receiver, and then he was so good, they ended up moving to wide receiver and took him out of the corner. But go ahead, Joe.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I agree with Ocho. I think, you know, him being a DB and then kind of similar. Similar what, Uncle? Just saying, like how the Cowboys use Dion. You know, he was a. He was a db, but they had a package in there for Dion for where, you know, you know, he would be on offense from time to time. And I think that's the same way the Jaguars probably gonna use Travis Hunter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like you say, 130 something snaps a game, hell, that's basically full time on both. On both sides. Right. And it takes a toll on you, bro, because you never get a rest. Nah.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Nope, nope, nope. I like it. I like it.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

I like it, too.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Jags are doing this so he can focus on one thing. Focus on being the best defensive back he can be, depending on where they move them. Listen, and obviously, as great as you are, I hope you become not just a db, but a traveling db, a DB that follows the one man to do that.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

You want.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

You want somebody hitting that payday up, hitting another payday, follow the number one on every team and then have small packages on offense and go impact the game that way.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, look, I understand. I understand what you guys are saying, hell, y' all played the game at a very high level. But I love seeing Travis on offense, too. Boy got some hands. He electric when he catch the ball. You know what I mean? I feel like he's always a big play away. You feel what I'm saying? So I, I, I. I definitely hope they still keep him on offense, you know, from time to time. It ain't got to be, you know, every down, but for the most part, I want to see that electric side of him, too.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Yeah, of course. And I think the thing is, look, you got Parker Washington, you got Brian Thomas Jr. This company that, you know, had an off season, so you can plug him in. Defensively is where you're like, okay, we need a little help here. Guys that can get up to the court, get up to the quarterback. We could really use Trav, like you said, Ocho Travel take care of it, because you got Nico Collins, and you got guys in that division vision that you have to. You're gonna have to deal with.

[Joe (Analyst/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Host/Moderator (possibly 'Ocho')]

Yeah.

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