Best of NFL News Part 1: NO HEAT on Vrabel?! + Browns QB1 NOT Shedeur

Summary

Club Shay Shay — Best of NFL News Part 1: NO HEAT on Vrabel?! + Browns QB1 NOT Shedeur

Episode Date: May 9, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guests/Co-hosts: Joe, Ocho, Brad, Joe Johnson, Uncle Joe
Theme: Dissecting recent NFL news, quarterback controversies, off-field scandals, the impact of NIL, and more from the lens of former athletes and insiders.

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Episode Overview

This episode of Club Shay Shay focuses on several major current NFL storylines, the evolution of scandals and privacy in pro sports, business decisions that shape quarterback competitions, and the cultural changes now affecting athletes and young stars. The group—comprised mostly of former pro athletes—unpacks trending news and provides sharp, unfiltered commentary on league happenings, music, money, and the realities facing modern athletes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Mike Vrabel Scandal: Why No Heat?

Timestamps: 03:04–08:59

• The Issue: The panel discusses the media and public reaction—or lack thereof—to an alleged affair involving NFL coach Mike Vrabel.

  • Ocho questions the absence of backlash: “Was anything gonna happen? Because you guys are football people now. You gotta ask…” (03:04)
  • Joe explains why Vrabel doesn’t face the heat others might: “Ms. Rossini is not an employee of the Patriots. Mike Vrabel is not… an employee of the Athletic. In that situation, it’s different… It's morally wrong.” (03:38)

• Perspective from Inside the League:

  • The group reflects on how such scandals have always occurred, but technology means they are now magnified.
  • Brad observes: “We've seen situations like this so much, so often over the years… to others, regular folk are like, oh my God, look what's going on… I have to reset and think, they're not used to this… I'm almost numb to it because I see it all the time.” (06:46)
  • Joe adds: "When I got into the league, reporters would see things. And it never got out…" (07:56)

• Impact of Social Media:

  • Joe Johnson: “It's easy for your ass to get caught, too, with all these phones.” (08:59)
  • Ocho: “Our world has changed… It's easier now to get women and all those things… But you owe a lot more, aren't you, Joe?” (08:23)

• Insight: There’s a generational divide in how scandals are perceived due to increased access (phones/social media) and a more vigilant public.

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2. Quarterback Controversy: Browns QB1 – Watson vs. Shedeur

Timestamps: 17:37–23:13

• Situation: Despite speculation, Deshaun Watson is favored to remain Browns QB1 over Shedeur Sanders due to financial investment.

  • Joe, about Watson's salary: “It's hard for a guy to be a $46 million and be on the bench. Either he gonna start or you gonna release.” (18:06)
  • Uncle Joe: “If he's making that and he's actually healthy this time… he's gonna be in there as the starting quarterback.” (18:24)
  • On the future: “Shedeur… probably will be the quarterback of the future, but we won't know until Deshaun plays this season and things aren't going well.” (18:55)

• Panel agrees the Browns' investment compels them to give Watson every chance possible, but also that his future with the team is limited unless he performs at a dramatically high level.

• Joe Johnson raises ‘what if’ scenario:

  • “You mean to tell me if this man goes out, gets the Browns to the playoffs… Y'all don't think they'll bring him back?” (20:02)
  • Uncle Joe: “Your quarterback for the next 10 years is probably sitting behind him. …They will move on.” (20:22)

• Insight: Business realities dictate roster decisions more than hype or potential—money talks.

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3. Music Interlude: The NY Times’ (Missing) Songwriter List

Timestamps: 23:18–29:57

• The List: Discussion on the NY Times’ ‘30 Greatest Living American Songwriters’ and who got left off (notably Drake and Kanye).
  • Joe: “You ain't say Drake.” (24:08)
  • Uncle Joe: “They might have left Kanye off on purpose because he's so controversial.” (26:34)
  • Joe Johnson: “I just feel like talent is talent, man… That's the way we see it. That ain't the way they see it.” (26:47)
• Fun asides about favorite musicians and food memories—lightening the tone.

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4. QB Draft Decisions: The Rams and Ty Simpson

Timestamps: 30:21–35:44

• Rams QB Draft: Discussion about the Rams drafting Ty Simpson at #13 and coach Sean McVay’s apparent displeasure.

  • Brad: “He know he was unhappy. He didn't like it. That came from upstairs.” (30:49)
  • Brad gives the context and difficulty of evaluating QBs, “That's why so many teams struggle to find one.” (31:00)
  • The rarity: “The Rams became the first team to have a quarterback win the MVP, then select a quarterback in the first round… since the Green Bay Packers did [in] 1967…” (32:34)

• Debate: Was this pick necessary? Is Simpson really the heir to Matt Stafford?

  • Brad: “He won't be Matt Stafford, but I'm saying he will have time to develop.” (34:45)

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5. NIL, Young Athletes & Money

Timestamps: 39:09–45:20

• Massive NIL Payouts: Ohio State WR Jeremiah Smith, not yet NFL-eligible but already loaded—spotted buying a $250,000 Lamborghini Urus.

  • Joe: “If NIL were around when you was in college…” (39:52)
  • Joe Johnson recalls: “I ain't gonna lie. Let me tell you something. When I was in college… Expeditions and Navigators just came out… you making four point something million in college… I probably would have caught me something like that.” (40:12)
  • Uncle Joe: “Especially when I'm that young… my first car, I would want a damn Chevy.” (42:01)

• Warnings about financial pitfalls:

  • Joe: “You get the stories… about guys coming out had that NIL and they seven figures to the tax man.” (42:58)
  • Joe Johnson: “Hey, that's the one thing you got to understand as a young player. It's good to have all these things… But don't forget why you here now.” (44:05)

• Cultural reflections: The panel muses on how material dreams and visibility have exploded for young athletes compared to their own eras.

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6. Fan Q&A and Final Thoughts: Lakers Take & Playoff Frustrations

Timestamps: 46:26–49:49

• Fan Caller: Expresses frustration about the Lakers’ loss, focusing on Austin Reaves’ performance and the team’s missed opportunities.

  • Caller: “I'm mad… this is a game. You gotta win this game. When the best team in the NBA play this bad, you gotta win it.” (47:13)

• Panel Response:

  • Joe Johnson: “They had a chance… They got teased a little bit… you get down 8 to 12 points, right? You can't come back…” (47:32)
  • Ocho: “Outside of being mad, you also have to be realistic… You're playing the best team out the goddamn West.” (48:23)
  • Joe: “How many shots? Shay only went to the line three times… And they still beat you by 18.” (48:36)

• Summary: The familiar heartbreak of playoff hopes dashed—even when opportunity knocks.

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Notable Quotes

• On off-field scandals:

  • Brad (on sports insiders): “I'm almost numb to it because I see it all the time.” (06:52)
  • Joe Johnson: “It's easy for your ass to get caught, too, with all these phones.” (08:59)

• On Browns’ QB dilemma:

  • Uncle Joe: “They're going to give Deshaun Watson every ample opportunity to not only win this battle to justify the money that he's making, but to also put on film and audition for other teams.” (18:55)

• On NIL money and young athletes:

  • Joe Johnson: “It's good to have all these things, you know, these materialistic things. But don't forget why you here now.” (44:05)
  • Uncle Joe: “They need some real help and guidance too, bro.” (42:54)

• On QBs and uncertainty:

  • Brad (on Ty Simpson pick): “That position… is one of the hardest… to evaluate… because you don't know what you're getting until you put him in that situation under the guy and fire.” (31:00)

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Memorable Moments

• The peanut-in-Coke nostalgia (37:02+)

  • “You guys put peanuts in your Coca Cola?” sparked laughter and reminiscence.

• NIL dream cars discussion:

  • Colorful debates over the “dunk or box” as your first big purchase if NIL money had existed in their days (42:07).

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Takeaways

• The interplay of money, media, and opportunity in the modern NFL shapes not only teams’ decisions but also player legacies and public perception.
• Scandals feel less shocking to insiders, but public scrutiny has spiked in the smartphone era.
• NIL has redefined what’s possible—and risky—for young athletes.
• Despite the changes in sports and culture, the pressure to perform and the realities of high expectations remain.

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For further insights, listen to the full episode of Club Shay Shay. Skip to the timestamps above for your favorite segments.

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[Ocho]

Well, was anything gonna happen? Because you guys are football people now. You gotta ask, both of you what's gonna happen up here with DRA up in Boston, in New England?

[Joe]

Lord have mercy. I sure hope you wasn't asking that question. I said, damn my whole. We should have briefed you, Brad. Talking about. You can't ask that, Ocho. We should have told Brad. We should have gave Brad a list of things. Hey. And he can't ask.

[Brad]

Listen, it's not.

[Uncle Joe]

It's not the first.

[Brad]

Right, Brett? It's not the first and it won't be the last.

[Uncle Joe]

It ain't. It happens all the time.

[Joe]

What happened is people are looking at it and they say, well, Shannon, what about Sharon Moore in Michigan? What about IME in Boston? I say, guys, those are subordinates. Ms. Rossini is not an employee of the Patriots. Mike Vrabel is not a. Is a. Not a. An employee of the Athletic.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe]

In that situation, it's different. So I get it. It's morally wrong.

[Fan Caller]

It.

[Joe]

Both are married. They're going to have to deal with that with their spouses. But now, hey, maybe it gets so hot that Mr. Kraft doesn't have a choice. But if the reports are true, he tried to catch and kill the story. So he knew about it before the world knew about it.

[Ocho]

Well, the thing about. There were pictures. He said that I wasn't involved with this woman. But then they went back and found pictures about six or seven years.

[Joe]

The COVID up is working.

[Ocho]

He was kissing. Yeah, he was kissing. Kissing this woman at the bar. So I mean, that. That to me. And I'm not saying. I'm not saying, you know, I'm definitely not saying he should be fired or anything like that, but our society right now is really kind of different. When we talk about stepping on toes and all this stuff. And he told the story saying, well, you know, you guys are crazy if you think it was a story. Well, you can't say that kind of stuff if it was a story.

[Joe]

But see, here's the thing. Because of your coach and your wife is really not visible, if they were out in public, you would think, okay, he's married, she's married. That's the couple. You don't know Mike Vos. You people probably have never seen his wife. Now, the likelihood. Guess what? They're in different locations. They're not in New York. They're not in New England. So ain't nobody for the wiser. Ain't nobody know.

[Ocho]

Well, we know.

[Joe]

Well, we.

[Ocho]

Well, we know.

[Joe Johnson]

Now,

[Joe]

If you got a wife and nobody has ever seen her and you're out with somebody else, people gonna naturally assume that's his wife.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And so now guess what? We get this out. You know what? I saw them in the casino one time. I saw them in a bar, as a matter of fact. Let me go. Let me go through my. Let me go through my phone log. Let me see if these photos. See, I got a picture of him, too.

[Brad]

Hey, you know what? And another part, I think maybe because I've been. Well, Joe, I mean, Brad, you. You as well. We've been in. In a lifestyle so much where we've seen so many. So many situations, so many cases, even some that weren't made public or we know about it behind closed doors. But we've seen situations like this so much. Like, so often over the years. It's like to others, the regular folk are like, oh, my God, look what's going on.

[Uncle Joe]

But it's normal, talked about.

[Brad]

And I'm thinking back to myself.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm like, it's normal.

[Uncle Joe]

It's normal.

[Brad]

Like, in that world, like, y' all going crazy and acting like I'm like. And to me, I have to reset, and I have to think and like, okay, you know what? They're not used to this. They're not used to seeing this. And they use the words, what about morals and integrity? I'm like, oh, my goodness. I just wish you were part of this world for just a year. I mean, it's different. And I think it's hard for people on the outside that aren't in that lifestyle, don't live in that world to where it's like, I'm almost numb to it because I see it all the time. All the time. I mean, I got in trouble for. But cursing at somebody about, like, why did y' all talk about this on. On Nightcap? Why did this is a huge story. And I'm like, like, what the fuck? No, it's not. This shit happens all the time to remember, like, bread.

[Joe]

Go ahead, Go ahead, Ocho, finish.

[Brad]

No, I just had to think, like, I had to reset and remember, like, okay, everybody doesn't live in that world to kind of understand it. So, like, I, I, I get, I get it now in a sense.

[Joe]

And the thing is, Brad, you know, when you was in the league and when I got into the league, reporters would see things.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And it never got out. You wouldn't. Hey, like.

[Ocho]

Because I just saw your wife were hanging with you and they were doing some of the things, same things you were doing.

[Joe]

They tried to get you.

[Ocho]

But Ocho can say, Ojo can say right now that, yeah, he's numb to it, but our world has changed from when we were in the league at one time. It's not like it was when we were all in the league. Even Joe, who's been more recently than us. The fact that the world has changed so much, the NBA, the standards, all the stuff around it. It's easier now to get women and all those things that happen. But at the same time, you owe a lot more, aren't you, Joe? This situation, it's.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, it's easy for your ass to get caught, too, with all these phones.

[Joe]

Everybody got this right here.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you go.

[Joe]

This was this. This was the greatest invention.

[Brad]

Yeah.

[Joe]

The worst invention. At the same time, with more relationships.

[Brad]

Right. Hold on.

[Joe]

A phone and an email. And this is this.

[Brad]

This is this.

[Joe]

Hey. This is.

[Brad]

Hey. This is the funny thing about it, too. You think about technology, right? And how. And how far advanced we've come with, with cameras everywhere and camera phones and everybody having a phone out is all the things that are happening today. They've been going on for years. They were happening before we were here. They were happening before my grandma was here.

[Uncle Joe]

It's just the fact that everything is

[Brad]

magnified now because of technology, because of social media. So nothing is new and just being brought to light at a much more higher rate. That's it.

[Joe]

Yeah. Everything changed.

[Ocho]

I remember Joe Johnson said something to me and I love this. Yeah, Joe, I'm putting stepping on your toes a little bit. I remember when you got to Brooklyn and I saw you at the game one time. You like, man, I never see so many damn pretty women in my life in damn New York City. I said, you in Atlanta. Joe said, man, he said, new York City is on a whole nother level.

[Joe]

And you were playing with damn Brooklyn.

[Ocho]

You Weren't playing with them.

[Joe]

The next.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, New York different, bro. I was telling Uncle Ocho that, but, you know, it's just, I think it's just, it's just because we're, we, we have access to so much, and we've

[Joe]

seen so much, you know, the good,

[Joe Johnson]

the bad, the ugly, that nothing really surprises us, bro. Like, it's, it's hard. It's hard to throw, to throw a fastball at me. And I, you know what I mean? I'm like, well, I done seen this movie before. You know what I mean? But it's like now. It's like now when you think your ass low, you ain't low. Somebody see your ass

[Ocho]

ain't no down low no more.

[Joe Johnson]

Hell, no. You better keep your nose clean, boy.

[Joe]

I see guys. I mean, I see people all the time. I just pretend. Hey, how you doing? Nice to meet you. Hey. Hey, how you doing? It's nice to see you. I ain't never seen you before in my life, but it's nice to see you.

[Ocho]

But here's the thing I think was really different about it was. And I was single at the time, but I didn't know that women invested in men the way we invested in them until I got traded to another team. Then I found out about.

[Joe]

Wait a minute.

[Ocho]

I thought she was with.

[Joe]

But no, she was with.

[Ocho]

No, but she was with. And you found out when you go to another team, it's all of a sudden, damn, well, these women are working this thing. And now even more so when I think about the money and how big it is and all this stuff, I'm just, I'm, I'm just flabbergasted. I, I, I look at the. Who is your, your guy? That his wife is an actor and his wife is an actress and she got all that money. He, former basketball player, played with the Knicks. Yeah, he played with the Knicks. He played with Cleveland also. He had to give his, his wife is famous right now. What's her name? I can't.

[Joe]

Chris.

[Joe Johnson]

You talking about Tristan Thompson?

[Ocho]

I'm talking about his wife right now. Is doing all these, these, these movies he does. He's on espn, Got real dark lips. You know who I'm talking about? The money he had to give up to his wife.

[Joe]

Ex. Wife. Yeah, he. Yes. Ex what?

[Ocho]

The money he had to give up. I don't give a damn what the X is. And that was when you got the money he had to give up. He gave up four houses.

[Joe]

Houses.

[Ocho]

I'm sorry, I'm up Here you. I might not be on the show ever again, but I'm preaching this thing right now. I'm sorry. I'm really sorry.

[Joe]

Bread gonna get us. Brad gonna get us. Come on, man.

[Ocho]

Come on.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Like Martin say on thin line between love. Hey. She broke me down to my damn

[Joe]

bracepan in front of the damn police station. Hey, hey.

[Ocho]

I don't. I don't understand. I don't understand it. And I know we're in the era where we see players and we see. And celebrities cross together, but when I see some of the finances now, it's like. It's like Ant man gave his baby mama, gave her a million dollars, and she wanted to come back and say, no, no, no, no, homes. You ain't gimme enough. He signed a new contract. I'm like, damn, what is going on in this world?

[Joe Johnson]

It's a scary. It's a scary. We're in scary times, man. For real. We really in scary times, bro.

[Joe]

You gotta really be careful.

[Ocho]

I think you should just go. I'll just go down to Tootsies and get my money way down there. I'm good.

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[Joe]

Oh, Sean Watson has emerged from minicamp last week with the early lead over Shador in the quarterback competition and has the inside track to be named QB1. According to Mary K. Cabot, head coach Todd Monket hopes to declare or at least identify his starting quarterback by the end of mandatory minicaps June 9th through the 11th. Oo, I know it's early. Yeah, we were talking about this. Yeah, we looked at the $46 million salary.

[Uncle Joe]

Yes, sir.

[Joe]

It's hard for a guy to be a $46 million and be on the bench. Either he gonna start or you gonna release. Trade him or release him. But he wasn't gonna be there. Talk. Take us away. Oo.

[Uncle Joe]

What.

[Joe]

What gave you the conviction that you say, you know what? Look, I understand Shador and he closed out. They got a new head coach, but DeShawn Watson gonna be the starter.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, I understood Desan watch. Just understanding the business in general, uncle and Joe especially the money that they invested in him, money that they can't get back. There's really nothing can do about it this year. What he's making is what he's making. So if he's making that and he's actually healthy this time and there's nothing wrong with him, Uncle Joe, he's gonna be in there as a starting quarterback. This is. I mean, people should know that from the outside looking in, you know what? Very well, maybe goddamn young. God damn it. Slipping my goddamn mind.

[Joe]

Shador.

[Uncle Joe]

Shador probably will be the quarterback of the future, but we won't know until DeSean plays this season and things aren't going well. That'll be the only time Shador unseats him as a starting quarterback. They gonna give desean Watson every ample opportunity to not only win this battle to justify the money that he's making, but to also put on film and audition for other teams after this season is up. Because obviously he won't be with Cleveland next year, Joe, you know, and unless.

[Joe Johnson]

Unless he have a hell of a year.

[Joe]

But that's what I would be afraid of, Joe. What I would be afraid of that. Ocho, he has a hell of a year. His injury history. Then what? I gave him another. I gave him another three year, four year deal. 150, $200 million.

[Joe Johnson]

They ain't gonna want to do that.

[Uncle Joe]

No, I. I don't think they.

[Joe]

That's the go. That's the going rate. How old, Desh? Desh? Not that old. Yeah, but what he 32 if he's that.

[Uncle Joe]

But they still not gonna do that, though. They still not gonna do that. Yeah, this. This is opportunity for him to be able to. To show what he can do for other teams that may still be 30 years old.

[Joe Johnson]

Guys, hold on, hold on, hold on. Oo, hold on. You mean to tell me if this man goes out, gets the Browns to the playoffs, let's say they make it. Let's say they make it to the second round.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You said y'.

[Joe]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all don't think they'll bring him back.

[Fan Caller]

No,

[Uncle Joe]

that's not. Your quarterback for the next 10 years. Your quarterback for the next 10 years is probably sitting behind him.

[Joe]

I get that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

No, no. And I think they will move on. I just say he's starting this year just based on the salary and the amount of money he's making. They not going to have him on the bench, especially when he's healthy.

[Joe Johnson]

Has the schedule came out yet? NFL schedule came out yet?

[Joe]

No, I don't think I want to

[Joe Johnson]

see who them first six, seven games against.

[Joe]

We know. We know who the opponents are. We know like the NFC east is going to play the AFC west or something like that, but we don't know when they're going to actually play.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay,

[Uncle Joe]

that's going to be interesting to know. This is. And in a way, it's a good thing, you know, for. For desean. You know, Joker just gives him opportunity to show that he can still play at a very high level. And it probably won't be in Cleveland after this season, but it'll probably be somewhere else. And showing that you can still get it done. You know, they put. They got the white reps around you. They had a very, very good draft.

[Joe Johnson]

I agree. So I agree.

[Uncle Joe]

I mean, I'm excited to see what they do. And Shadow will have his opportunity. He's gonna get his chance. He's gonna get a chance where the team is actually his.

[Brad]

He doesn't have to look over his shoulder.

[Uncle Joe]

You know, if things don't go right for DeSean this season should do will step up. And once you step in, you gotta. Once you step in at that position, you got to close that door behind you.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Joe]

part of me agree with you, Joe, because I think desean can make it very, very interesting.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Very difficult for the Browns. He goes out there and plays like we know he can play like what we last saw him. Now, we haven't seen this in a long time. It's been many, many years removed since we lost last saw DeShawn. And many had him as a top three, top four quarterback in all of football. Right. We haven't seen that guy in a while. I don't know if he can get back to that injury. Shoulder injuries, Ailis Things like that have kind of robbed him of some of his ability. But if he can get back to that. Let's just say he's only 30. Yeah, he gets back to that. Oo. He makes it very difficult. Now, the question is, would the Browns be willing to invest another 150, $200 million in him? That's the question.

[Uncle Joe]

No, they. They. They. They allow that to be on someone else's books. They have Bill around Shador for another two years until he's up. And that. That would make. That would make more sense to me than investing. I already paid a boatload of money guaranteed to him. You know, I'm allowed. I'm gonna let. Let that money go in somebody else's books that needs it. I'm gonna go young with Shador. Give me a good two, three years.

[Joe Johnson]

That's all I'm gonna say.

[Uncle Joe]

Before. Before I, you know, before you had to. You got to pay him.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe]

The New York Times drops its unranked list of the top third of the 30 greatest living, living American songwriters now. Rogers, Lucinda Williams, Stevie Wonder, Jay Z, Paul Simon, Taylor Swift, Brian and Ellie, Eddie Holland, Missy Elliott, Lionel Richie, Dolly Parton, Young, Young Thug, Diane Warren, Josh Osborne, Brandy Clark, Shane McNally, Fiona Apple, baby Face, Stefan Merritt, Romeo Santos, Carol King, Outkast, Mariah Carey, Willie Nelson, Kendrick Lamar, Valerie Simpson, Bob Dylan, Lena Del Rey, the Dream, Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis, Bad Bunny, Bree sp, Bruce Springsteen, and Smokey Robinson.

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't say Drake.

[Joe]

Kanye.

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't say Drake.

[Joe]

Hell, it wasn't me.

[Joe Johnson]

It ain't my list.

[Joe]

I just read the list that they had up there. How they ain't got no Kanye.

[Uncle Joe]

There's a whole lot of people up

[Brad]

there do a whole lot of writing.

[Uncle Joe]

Depending on how in depth you are with different genres of music. There's some names on there I never would have known.

[Joe]

Damn.

[Uncle Joe]

That were actual writers outside of doing music themselves.

[Joe]

Yeah, I've heard. You know, now Rogers and Jay Z, Paul Simon, obviously, Stevie Wonder, Missy. I mean, I know so many. Some of these. I agree with you. I know Diane Warren.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I'm Young Thug.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, I'm sure Young Thug writes for Rice, for other artists.

[Joe]

Where's Future?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, okay.

[Joe]

How about that? You got Young. You got Young Thug as a better writer over Future.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, how. You ain't got Drake in there, though. Real talk.

[Joe]

What about Kanye? What we doing now?

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, doing exactly what they want us to do. Have a conversation, get upset.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, we have.

[Joe]

You know, they left Future Kanye out there just.

[Joe Johnson]

Just because they had to, bro. I love Future. I love Future. Cause of his soulfulness, like, you know. Yeah, he a rapper, but at the same time, he has a. He has, like, a unique sound. Unique. Like, his music, you can kind of, you know, you.

[Joe]

You.

[Joe Johnson]

You really can feel it. I don't know how they left him off of there.

[Joe]

They say Drake don't write. Does Kanye. Right.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Joe]

Computer, right. Which one of them, right?

[Uncle Joe]

They get. They got to do something,

[Joe]

right? Chat the future, right?

[Uncle Joe]

They got to. Damn, ain't no way in hell. They just do one thing just right.

[Joe]

We got Baby Face up here.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Baby Face is the real deal, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, tell me about it.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, Baby Face is the real deal. Now, you went to buy some music.

[Joe]

So you. You think. So you think all these people up here, they're the only ones. Kanye is the only one that works with a group, that work with a group. So everybody else. Everybody else is by themselves. Just everything that they come out with, they wrote.

[Uncle Joe]

They. They might have left Kanye off on purpose because he's so controversial.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, so they use it against him.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, but hey, hey, he controversial. I mean, big time, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

I just feel like talent is talent, man. You.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, you write about that. That's the way we see it. That ain't the way they see it.

[Joe]

Does the dream. Does he write? Jazzy Fade? Does he write.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, you remember Jazzy Fade?

[Joe]

Big Jazzy Faith.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, Jazz.

[Joe]

I don't see him all the time as Houston's up on. On Lennox Road.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, that. Houston used to be jumping, boy.

[Joe]

Jumping, man. I love that right there by the crib, too. Joe, man, get that. That cheese bread.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, boy.

[Joe]

Joe, you remember they had. They had that chicken sandwich that built more chat, and they had them a chicken. Them chicken fingers.

[Joe Johnson]

Them chicken fingers was off the chain.

[Joe]

I don't know why they took them off the menu.

[Joe Johnson]

What? Listen, hey, when I played in Phoenix, we should. Maybe we should go to Houston's, right?

[Joe]

I know exactly. I know. Right there in Scottsdale. I know exactly what you're talking about. Every time I go. Every time we play the Cardinals, like, we get in the car, we go into Houston every time. As a matter of fact, when the super bowl was there a couple years ago, Shelly and I went, boy, them a.

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't lying them chicken fingers off the chain.

[Joe]

No, some of these people. I don't know. I ain't gonna even hold you.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't either.

[Joe]

I don't know Josh Osborne, Brandon Clark, Shane McNally. I know. Fiona Apple. I know. Babyface. Carol King. Outkast. Mariah Carey. Willie Nelson. Valerie Simpson. She's one half of Ashford and Simpson. Nick Ashford and Valerie Simpson. Bob Dylan. I know who he is. Oh, the dream's on here. He down here. Jimmy Jam. Terry Lewis. Bad Bunny. Bruce Springsteen. Yep. Niles Rogers has been. Been at it a while. What was the name of his group? He was in a group early in the 80s. No, he was also with Pharrell Williams. What was the group he was with Niles Rogers in the 80s? I think it was. It was a woman. A female's group. Taste the honey. Cheek. Chick, Chick. C H I C, Chick. Ah, freak out.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. That was him.

[Joe]

That was him, yeah. You made a guitar? Yes, I'm look.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm looking him up now.

[Joe]

Yeah, Eddie wrote. Eddie wrote for what you call him for. He did some stuff. He's a group with. With Pharrell Williams too, I think. I think he was with Daft Punk, too. Yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying to think. I say, I think you see if he was in the group Daft Punk with. No, I don't think Rob Temperton. I don't think he's American. I think he's a British guy. He might be American. Oh, he.

[Joe Johnson]

Huh.

[Joe]

But wasn't what you call him in that group? Pharrell and now Rogers. Oh, dolly.

[Uncle Joe]

Dolly parton. Jolene.

[Joe]

Sean McVeigh opened tonight's press conference saying he got so many texts about last night post draft news conference and wanted to clarify that he and GM Les Knee couldn't be more lockstep in every decision that we make. The Rams drafted Ty Simpson at number 13 and on McVeigh's brief response to the question and overall body language led some to speculate that he was unhappy with the Rams pick. Ocho. Do you believe Sean McVeigh?

[Brad]

Absolutely not. He know he was unhappy. He didn't like it. That came from upstairs.

[Joe Johnson]

He didn't want that big.

[Brad]

That pick came from upstairs. Listen, I like Ty Simpson. I like what he did, you know, at Alabama.

[Fan Caller]

It was cool.

[Brad]

But he's not the one. Excuse me, Let me take this back. He's not one that's going to be the successor to goddamn Matt Stafford. He's just not. Most of the time you see quarterback come in, are they going to allow him to develop? Well, you just drafted a quarterback not long ago and Stetson Bennett, who you thought was going to be the one to be the successor, obviously he's not the answer. And you're going on now you draft another quarterback. That position, Joe, is one of the hardest unk to evaluate someone to evaluate because you don't know what you're getting until you put him in that situation under the guy and fire. It's very, very, very, very difficult. Very difficult. That's why so many teams struggle to find one. So you have no choice but to pick someone that early. You have no choice because you don't want to wait, Joe. You don't want to be. You don't want to be in quarterback purgatory like the Steelers are. You know, everyone's not going to be lucky like Green, like the Green Bay Packers. You're not going to be able to go from Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers to Jordan Love. It doesn't happen like that. They just.

[Joe]

They lucky. Look like they're gonna have 50 years of quarterback. Great quarterback play. Damn, you're right. You're right.

[Brad]

I don't know.

[Joe]

I think the thing. Because Sean McVeigh got. Look, they got to be lockstep and barrel because Sean McVay got final say. Got got a lot of say. Sean McVay is just not a guy just, oh, he the coach and he ain't got no say. He got a lot of say. Yeah.

[Brad]

So I just don't think that was. That was his body language, his mannerisms. When that. With that pick, you can tell that went over his head.

[Joe]

The Rams became the first team to have a quarterback win the MVP, then select the quarterback in the first round of the subsequent NFL Draft since the Green Bay packers did in 1967. The Bart star won the award in 1966. And then Green Bay drafted Don Horn 25th overall the following year.

[Brad]

It don't make no sense to me. That's a pick that makes no sense to me because Matt Stafford, with the way he's playing at MVP level at 30 years old, ain't no telling when he's going to give up. Ain't no telling when he's going to stop. And people say, oh, his back was hurt in training camp last year. The devil is a lie. What?

[Joe]

Nothing Wrong with what? 45 touchdowns. He threw 45 touchdowns.

[Brad]

Hey, Unk. Now, you know. You know good and well we got load management in the NBA, right? Okay, you know what? My back hurt. I don't really need training camp. I know what to do. We talk. We talk about Matt Stafford. He played a lot of football. Ain't nothing wrong with his back. I mean, if. If you. If, you know, you know, I. I know what you're doing. You don't want training camp. You don't want to.

[Joe]

No, I, when you look at it, when you look at it, I understand. And I think the thing is that people said this is the problem Green Bay ran into because instead of drafting somebody that could help Aaron Rodgers right now, you drafted a quarterback that was going to be two, three years away from play. They see this is a very similar situation. I mean, what player did you thought they was going to be able to draft that was going to come in and says, okay? I mean, you got Devonte, you got Puka, you got Kyron, you got. I'm just trying to figure who they, I mean, defense, they're loaded, they loaded up on two corners. The safety is a solid. The linebackers are really good. The D line is outstanding. You got Verse, you got Young, you took the, the. I forget where the line moves from. From Florida State. Fisk. I, I'm, I'm just trying, I'm trying to figure out Ocho. I mean, who do you think they could have taken that's going to come in right now and be a key contributor to this team?

[Brad]

You know what?

[Uncle Joe]

You know what?

[Brad]

I do want to take some back too. I want to, I want to take some back because the supporting cast and the defense is so good. With PUK and devonte Smith, you could probably, you probably could plug Ty Simpson in. Probably could. Because the supporting cast around him is so goddamn good. McVay is such a genius when it comes to play calling and being able to play to his player strengths. So whatever weaknesses Ty Simpson may have, maybe he can go in there and be efficient and be good. He won't be Matt Stafford, but I'm saying he will have time to develop. No, he will have time to develop and get better playing behind an MVP caliber Super bowl winning quarterback. But I'm just basing everything off what I saw in college. Joe, that's all you was, you was okay at Alabama, but the bottom dropped out towards, you know, you know that. That's, that's, that's all I'm saying. I, I don't, I don't know.

[Joe]

Check this out guys. Because he was drafted 57th overall, Logan Jones will receive a lifetime supply of ketchup from the Crab Heinz Company. Jones didn't know the incentive of the draft slot until he was informed on Zoom after being selected. I love it. I'll take as much as I can get. Let's go. Ketchup.

[Joe Johnson]

He was driving 57.

[Joe]

He was driving from high as 57.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Damn, that's dope.

[Joe]

That's. That's mean. I mean, how much you. How much ketchup you. How many. How much ketchup you think you guys have eaten in the lifetime? Yeah, me, I.

[Brad]

Hey, I'mma catch up.

[Joe]

Catch up on your hot dog. Oh, you. Your hot dogs playing.

[Brad]

Yeah, I eat my glizzies plain.

[Uncle Joe]

Huh?

[Brad]

Even my French fry when I go to McDonald's, I tell make sure lightly salted.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all ain't never had ketchup on your chips like your lay's chips or nothing like that when I was younger. You gonna do it now?

[Joe]

We used to put hot sauce on them, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, we put hot sauce. You put ketchup on your chip? Yeah, man. Hey, I like me some ketchup now.

[Brad]

Ketchup. Ketchup on your chips?

[Joe Johnson]

On some lays.

[Joe]

On some lay chips, we used to put.

[Brad]

I like Lays. I don't know. We used to put peanuts.

[Joe]

Remember? We put peanuts in the bottle.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

You guess what? You drink all the Coca Cola. Peanuts stuck at the bottom. You never get them out. So. Hold on.

[Brad]

Wait. Where they do that at? Peanuts in your Coca Cola?

[Joe]

You have a. You have a Coke? You know Coke? Those bottles. So you put peanuts in.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

You ain't never do that.

[Brad]

What that do?

[Joe]

Hey, hey, I know y' all did. I know Goodwill. Y' all put peanuts in y' all Coca Cola.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, y' all ain't never. Y' all never mix popcorn with your chips. Yeah, Ocho. You never mix popcorn with your chips.

[Brad]

I ain't never heard of that joke we had.

[Joe]

I ain't never heard of this. I forget. What is it called? Gorp.

[Brad]

Grunt.

[Joe]

But they put popcorn, peanut and plain M M's and raisins. We. We had that. We did. That was what you call them? That was. You know, that wasn't us. That was them, their parents.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe]

First of all, we wouldn't get no. You wouldn't get no M M's. You would get. You would get no popcorn. You damn sure would get no raises. You might get one of the three, but you damn sure wasn't getting all three.

[Joe Johnson]

Right, right, right.

[Joe]

I think it's called gorp or something, but I don't know. But I'm saying, I think I was like the second or third grade, and somebody. Parents brought that together, I think was good. I was like, damn, y' all living it up over there, ain't it,

[Ocho]

Man,

[Joe]

Port get none of that. We got the wi. Hey, y' all remember the wise potato chip? You weren't getting no lays. You weren't getting no ruffles. You weren't getting that good stuff. You got the wise with them with the owl on the back.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Huh? Yeah. That's what he called. Yeah. But they.

[Joe Johnson]

They made it.

[Joe]

Wasn't. It wasn't back then. I think they do it now, but it wasn't made. They made it. So. Good old days. What?

[Joe Johnson]

What.

[Joe]

What you laughing at? What it did. Yeah, see, y'. All. Y' all don't know about that. See, they gonna talk about. See, what they do. What. What. What people started doing is things that we started concocting. They started making it. They started.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go.

[Joe]

That what they started doing.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go.

[Joe]

We were doing that. They weren't even thinking about that. Stole our ideas. Ohio State wide receiver Ocho and Joe just bought his dream car. He isn't even eligible for the NFL until the next draft. Just five months away from turning 21 years of age, Smith picked up a 2026 Lamborghini Urus starting at 200, a quarter of a million, which pocket change when you consider he's one of the highest paid nil athletes in the country, with a valuation of 4.2 million, thanks to deals with Adidas, Red Bull, Lululemon and Nintendo Ojo. Joe, if nil were around when you was in college.

[Brad]

Yes.

[Joe]

What you call me?

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't gonna lie. Let me tell you something. I'm gonna have me. I'm gonna have me some fly. See, when I was in college, y' all know what came out? What came out was some Expeditions and them Navigators. That's what came out when I was in college. They was the hottest thing.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Joe, remember.

[Brad]

Remember excursions?

[Joe Johnson]

They had just came out around that time, like 2001, 2000. So everybody was getting there. But yeah. Hey, hey, Ocho, you making four point something million in college. Hey, get you a little Uris, a little Lambo or something, boy. Hey, I probably would have caught me something like that now.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't gonna act like that. Hey, I'm just about to turn 21 and you mean, boy. Yeah. I'm like, hey, hey, ball out, Jeremiah.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, yeah, what you getting, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

You put them things on there.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, you know, I had a little sub. I had a little sub, bro hooked me up.

[Joe Johnson]

I had a.

[Joe]

A 300 ZX, you know what I'm saying? You know, this is T tops, you know? You know, I had a little thing then my Senior had a 300 Benz.

[Joe Johnson]

Imagine if you make it if you had 4 million, though on your own, you making.

[Joe]

Oh, I had a sports car. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Hold on. You know, back then, those big 560 Mercedes was out. Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, big body, 500 series. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Probably something like that. Because I ain't really know. I ain't really know nothing about no little like. Ain't no. I ain't had. Never seen a Ferrari up close in person. Never have seen a Lamborghini. So I probably wouldn't even. Probably, you know what was out too. No Iroxies, remember? No Iroxy.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, I remember Iraq.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I think nowadays you got so many of these young cats driving these Lambos and Rolls Royces here. You know, these kids see all that, they want that big. They want that.

[Joe]

Yeah, for sure.

[Joe Johnson]

Bentleys and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

What you getting, Ocho? Hey, you died in Miami. Oh, you know, you. You in Oregon. So you in Oregon State.

[Uncle Joe]

I still got that Miami mentality.

[Brad]

And normally having that kind young. The first thing I would. I would have did, being a little shorty, being a jit. I would have got me a Chevy.

[Joe]

I was gonna say, you get the dunk or box?

[Brad]

Hey, I'm.

[Uncle Joe]

I'm getting. I'm getting.

[Brad]

There don't. 73 convertible top.

[Uncle Joe]

You know, on some all gone bees.

[Brad]

That.

[Uncle Joe]

That's just the mindset.

[Brad]

Especially when I'm that young out where I wouldn't be choosing, you know, none

[Uncle Joe]

foreign, but my first car, I would want. I want. I want a damn Chevy.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, boy.

[Joe]

Yeah, but I. I don't know. Hey, I might have to get me something with a passport. Hey, I ain't gonna laugh at. I might have to give me something with a passport. Hey, yeah, but hey, that ain't gonna be the first car. The first part we'll go. Hey, man, Porter, definitely we getting up out of there. She getting out of Route 4, Box 3. Well, listen, boy, these kids balling out of control, man.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, they need some real help and guidance too, bro.

[Joe]

Because, you know, you get the stories that I hear about guys coming out had that nil and they seven figures to the tax man.

[Joe Johnson]

Think about it, though. Think about it. If you come from, you know, a family whose parents never had this type of money, hell, it ain't just you spending. You know what I'm saying?

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, but just a thought.

[Brad]

I'm just.

[Uncle Joe]

I'm just thinking about that. Boy, you can't imagine in college, you

[Joe Johnson]

can't even imagine, man.

[Brad]

Me, hey, me pulling up to the game and I got damn Chevy boy with that old trick daddy playing that 2000 trick.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I know one.

[Joe]

I know you had that flip. You have that flip flop playing on that thing, Ocho. That who that flip flop paint.

[Brad]

You remember that?

[Uncle Joe]

Chameleon paint.

[Brad]

You remember that?

[Joe]

Hey, hey, I'm have mine. That bowling ball. That thing gonna be looking like the old bowling ball with that shine on it.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, I know.

[Joe]

I know one thing.

[Joe Johnson]

When you get your ass on that field, you better be cutting up.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, you know, hey, you know, I'mma cut up Joe. You know, I'mma cut off Joe.

[Brad]

I ain't got.

[Uncle Joe]

I ain't got no choice.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's the one thing you got to understand as a young player. Hey, it's. It's good to have all these things, you know, these materialistic things. But don't forget. Don't forget why you here now.

[Brad]

How you.

[Joe]

How.

[Brad]

Hey, how you got it and not how and how you go.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't forget you lose that edge that you lose a little bit of that drive. Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, you know, back in the. Hey, I pull up to the game, had that little 300Z, you know, after

[Joe Johnson]

the game, old lady waiting on me,

[Joe]

get the thing, you know, I had to go shower, you know, I couldn't take no shower. I had to go back to the door. Then we go out, get a little something to eat. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I ball a little bit. What, bro? Had to hook that thing up.

[Joe Johnson]

Four M's, bro. In college, 20 years old.

[Joe]

Yeah, we going here. You getting that on getting that. Getting them gizzles fries carry here to go to Ryan's, you know, a little something, man. That was.

[Uncle Joe]

Who, man, I still. Man, I'm thinking about it too, bro. What'd you think about me back then? And you know, you know them.

[Brad]

I'm gonna just say the D boys.

[Uncle Joe]

The other boy had them Chevys and them.

[Brad]

Goddamn, dude.

[Joe]

Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

man, they were cutting up, man.

[Uncle Joe]

Boy, random. Ford and Ford. Ford Super Duty f f. 450s and 350s.

[Joe]

I thought about getting what you call it, that Shelby. Yeah, that Shelby truck. Yeah, you was you. I went test drove. That's the only car I've ever test drove. I like, man, I might get this thing here.

[Brad]

Shelby.

[Joe]

That Shelby?

[Brad]

Yeah, the one from the movie going in 60 seconds.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

[Brad]

Oh, okay, okay, okay.

[Joe]

Yeah, no, I ain't talking about that. I ain't talking about that. 427. I think you talking about the Eleanor, though.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Brad]

Eleanor.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that Mustang. All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Before we get to the super chats, we got five video voicemail from our discord. Let's take a listen.

[Fan Caller]

Ocho. Joe, what's good with y', all, man? It's Fallout Media. I'm back here again, man.

[Joe]

Unc. Joe, I'm mad.

[Fan Caller]

Than the. Oh, y'.

[Ocho]

All.

[Fan Caller]

I'm mad, man. I'm mad. I'm mad. Y' all see Lakers locked in. Goat James. I locked in. I'm locked in. Me and you. We here.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Fan Caller]

Hey, man, this was terrible, man. This was terrible, man. This was terrible. Austin Reeves. One thing about Austin Reeves so far the last couple playoffs. He showed me something. He's showing me something. He's not ready.

[Joe]

He.

[Fan Caller]

I don't know if he got that dog in the month. Do we got that dog in the Monk? What's going on? O. Jo?

[Joe]

Joe, How.

[Fan Caller]

How often can we rely on the Thunder missing all these threes? How often can we rely on the Thunder turning the ball over at this rate? How often can we rely on that? I'm mad. Nightcap family. I'm mad in the muff. I'm mad, y'.

[Joe]

All.

[Fan Caller]

No, I'm mad. Cause it's some straight up bs. This is a game. You gotta win this game. When. When the best team in the NBA

[Joe]

play this bad, you gotta win it.

[Fan Caller]

I'm sorry, y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[Fan Caller]

I'm just mad.

[Brad]

I'm mad. He mad.

[Uncle Joe]

Joe. I'm.

[Brad]

How you mad? You knew it.

[Uncle Joe]

You knew what?

[Brad]

The outcome.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, but they had a chance, though, Ocho. That's what he said. It's like. It's kind of like they got teased a little bit. That's what it is. It's like, man, we played. We played pretty decent first quarter.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Second quarter until the last. What? Couple minutes. And then outside of that, you know, you get down 8 to 12 points, right? You can't come back. And like. Like he said, hell, he see the turnovers that. That. That Shay had.

[Joe]

Who.

[Joe Johnson]

Like. Like, unsee they ain't. Hell, Shay under 20 points and I don't know how damn long.

[Brad]

20 points.

[Joe Johnson]

So you get this opportunity. Damn. You just. Braun just needed a little help. He just needed some.

[Ocho]

Some.

[Joe Johnson]

He needed AR to.

[Brad]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, being low, efficient.

[Brad]

I. I understand.

[Uncle Joe]

So he. He just wanted to feel good tonight, then. That's it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Well, I mean, you gotta know what it is.

[Joe]

I know what he's saying, man, why you try to rather man said he mad, Ocho.

[Brad]

I know, I'm. I'm just saying. But also, outside of being mad, you also, you also have to be realistic, you know, going into the series understanding, you know, there, there's a good chance, you know, we might not win a game. You're playing the best team.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Brad]

Playing the best team out the goddamn West.

[Joe]

So I, I think what Joe said, and we talked about it, we didn't expect them to play this bad. I mean, think about it. Think about it. How many shots? Shay only went to the line three times.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And look at all the threes. Look at all the turnovers they had.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And they still beat you by 18.

[Joe Johnson]

And they only had 108 points. And you know they gonna have, they gonna have a couple of them game where they got 130. 140.

[Joe]

Yes. And you know, if they get, they get to that 130 week, the game need to be at 100.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Cause that's your best chance of winning. You're not going to outscore them.

[Brad]

And the funny thing about it, too, Uncle Joe, you just said it too, right.

[Uncle Joe]

Shay didn't have a huge game.

[Brad]

You know, offensively, one of the few games we didn't score 20.

[Uncle Joe]

Hell, he didn't score 30. But hell, everybody else contributed too. Everybody else contributed too.

[Brad]

So even if he does have off night, hey, you still got to deal with everybody else.

[Joe]

That's the, that's the time that you like. Okay, Austin to think about it. LeBron took a back seat to Austin. He took a back seat.

[Joe Johnson]

You know why? You know why? Because he didn't. He knew it was going to take him a little while to find his rhythm in time. And after missing the first, what, 15, 17 games. Yeah. He knew it was going to take him a little while. The same with ar, bro. It takes a little time.