Best of NFL News Part 1: Russell Wilson CALLS OUT Sean Payton + Rams LB Byron Young Joins the show!

Summary

Club Shay Shay — Best of NFL News Part 1: Russell Wilson Calls Out Sean Payton + Rams LB Byron Young Joins the Show!

Release Date: October 25, 2025
Host: [Ian Eagle, guest hosting for Shannon Sharpe]
Podcast: Club Shay Shay (iHeartPodcasts and Shay Shay Media)
Guests: Byron Young (LA Rams), Joe (Co-host/Commentator), others

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Episode Overview

This episode of Club Shay Shay dives deep into the drama between Russell Wilson and Sean Payton, exploring the fallout from Wilson’s public clap-back at his former coach's comments. The hosts analyze player and coach dynamics, the evolution of athlete self-advocacy, and draw parallels with other sports beefs. Later, rising Rams linebacker Byron Young joins to share his compelling backstory, work ethic, and NFL journey. The episode closes with candid commentary on social media toxicity, fan-player boundaries, and racism in sports.

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Main Discussion & Key Insights

1. Russell Wilson vs. Sean Payton: Taking a Stand

Timestamps: 02:57–11:37

• Background: After Sean Payton praised Jackson Dart and, in doing so, implicitly criticized Russell Wilson, Wilson tweeted a pointed response: "Classless but not surprised. Didn’t realize you’re still bounty hunting 15+ years through the media. Let’s ride." (03:32)
• Host Reaction: Hosts express surprise that Wilson finally publicly responded, noting his reputation for restraint and professionalism.
• Joe’s Analysis:
  • “Sean Payton, he already tried Russ on the sideline... berating him, hoping he would break character... He kept calm, mild-mannered. Now he takes shots again.” (05:14)
  • “I love the fact that [Russ] stood up for himself. Matthew 5:39. In the Bible, it says turn the other cheek... Well, this time, Russ say he, I done ran out of cheeks. I’m going to clap back.” (05:39)
• Endurance of Grudges: The group agrees coaches sometimes keep jabbing unnecessarily, making analogies to Carmelo Anthony’s ongoing dynamic with coach George Karl.
• Host’s Core Point:
  • “You moved on. You have a quarterback in Bo Nix that seems to be the guy... Russ, you could like or dislike him, but you can’t say he’s not bothering anybody.” (06:29)

Memorable Quotes

• Joe (re: Russ’ response): “At some point, you gotta put a nail in the coffin. Because if you don't, they gonna keep digging your grave.” (07:18)
• Host: “Why take a shot at me? You can praise Jackson Dart without taking a dump on me.” (09:00)

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2. Player-Coach Rifts: Why Some Beef Never Dies

Timestamps: 15:56–22:33

• Insider Access: The hosts discuss having knowledge from inside teams and how public interpretation often misses the complicated personal dynamics.
• On Privileges & Locker Room Dynamics:
  • “[Russ] got privileges. And it made his teammates feel a certain type of way... Just because you make more money, we don’t want you getting privileges... We don’t want you having offices that none of us like.” (16:59)
• Analogy to NBA: Extended comparison with George Karl’s lingering criticisms of Carmelo Anthony, highlighting that coaches sometimes keep old scores alive for unclear (possibly personal) reasons.
• Joe: “Why don’t you just come out and say, ‘I just don’t like Russell Wilson.’ ...It had nothing to do with football...I just don’t like him. And that’s okay.” (19:26)
• Theme: Acceptance that personality clashes exist, but urging professionals to keep it private.

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3. Byron Young Interview: From Fast Food to NFL Stardom

Timestamps: 30:05–44:15

Byron Young’s Journey

• Early Struggles: Young worked at Burger King and Dollar General before football—saw an open tryout flyer and decided to chase his NFL dream. (31:01)
  • “Let me take this apron, this fry cap off and get back. So did you play football in high school?” (31:18)
• Overcoming Odds: Young was the only person to make it out of a 100-person tryout at Georgia Military College. (32:00)
• Position Switch: Played running back in high school, transitioned to linebacker/defensive end. (32:24)
• Getting Noticed: Tennessee was his first major offer; he felt it was a sign and seized the opportunity. (33:41)
• NFL Aspirations and Mentorship:
  • Looked up to players like Von Miller.
  • Cherishes lessons from Aaron Donald (AD) on patience and professionalism.
  • “I always wanted to be in the NFL...but I’d be lying to you if I told you that I just knew this would have happened.” (34:11)
  • “AD...taught me, just be patient. As a rookie, you’re always trying to be perfect...he always just said, just be patient, let it come to you.” (36:30)
• Professional Goals: Aiming for Pro Bowl, All-Pro, Defensive Player of the Year.
• Work Ethic: Detailed offseason focus on Pilates, flexibility, and refining technique.

Memorable Moments

• Byron Young (on small-town roots):

  • “Nine boys and four girls. I’m the youngest.” (42:04)
  • “You’re gonna eat good when you go back home.” (42:34)

• Hosts' Support: “Congrats on all your success, man. You’re a fighter, come from Georgetown, not a lot going on down there, but look where you’re headed...you seem so mature, so grounded.” (44:12)

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4. Racism and Fan Toxicity in Sports

Timestamps: 44:18–54:02

• Case Discussion: After a bad game, Isaiah Rogers of the Vikings receives racist and threatening DMs from fans, including slurs and violent comments. (46:20)
  • “You just gave the Eagles the win...you’re worse than Hitler...N word again.” (46:20)
• Host’s Analysis:
  • “They applaud what you do, not who you are...they’re not a fan of you, they’re a fan of the team you happen to play for.” (47:09, 47:26)
  • “If I know somebody doesn’t like me, why would I go to anything that person is having? Why would I give— I don’t follow people that don’t like me.” (51:55)
• Team Statements: The Vikings issue a public condemnation of the racial abuse. (51:10)
• Broader Reflection: Discussion on history of racism in the NFL and sports, and how social media amplifies negativity.
• Host on Social Media:
  • “I’m not so sure I would have been on social media when I played during the season...I had a singular focus.” (52:59)
  • “You and I both know if I’m walking down the street, all that stuff you say on Twitter...y’all not gonna say that.” (53:22)

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5. Athlete-Fan Boundaries & Public Encounters

Timestamps: 54:02–56:58

• Photo Requests: Stories of fans’ awkward strategies to get photos with athletes—pretending not to care, sneaking pictures, or waiting until the athlete is busy.
• Joe: “If you catch me in public...I got people feeling like it’s a high school reunion.” (56:28)
• Host: “I ain’t got that kind of time...We get from point A to point B...last thing I want is, I missed my flight.” (56:58)

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• “Well, this time, Russ say he, I done ran out of cheeks. I’m going to clap back.” — Joe (05:39)
• “At some point, you gotta put a nail in the coffin. Because if you don't, they gonna keep digging your grave.” — Joe (07:18)
• “He got privileges. And it made his teammates feel a certain type of way... Just because you make more money, we don’t want you getting privileges.” — Host (16:59)
• “Why don’t you just come out and say, ‘I just don’t like Russell Wilson.’ ...It had nothing to do with football.” — Joe (19:26)
• “You’re gonna eat good when you go back home.” — Byron Young (42:34)
• “They applaud what you do, not who you are...they’re not a fan of you, they’re a fan of the team you happen to play for.” — Host (47:09, 47:26)
• “If I know somebody doesn’t like me, why...would I go to anything that person is having? I don’t follow people that don’t like me.” — Host (51:55)

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Segment Timestamps

• Russell Wilson vs. Sean Payton drama: 02:57–11:37
• Player-coach grudges, analogy to Carmelo/George Karl: 15:56–22:33
• Byron Young's inspiring story and interview: 30:05–44:15
• Fan/player boundaries, racism, social media toxicity: 44:18–54:02
• Athlete/fan public encounters, photo requests: 54:02–56:58

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Episode Tone & Style

The conversation is lively, candid, and alternates between serious reflection (on race, athlete empowerment, and adversity) and playful banter (athlete stories, boasting, jokes about social media and public encounters). The hosts blend personal anecdotes, insider knowledge, and cultural commentary to offer perspective unavailable from standard sports coverage.

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For Listeners: Why This Episode Matters

• Inside Look: Get the real dynamics behind NFL headlines—why athletes push back against ongoing criticism, and how public narratives can miss insider context.
• Inspiration: Byron Young’s rapid rise from working retail to NFL stardom highlights perseverance and humility.
• Authenticity: The show refuses to sanitize the reality of racism in sports, or the sometimes toxic relationship between fans and players, making for an honest and grounded coverage.

Ideal For: Anyone interested in NFL culture, athlete empowerment, racial dynamics in sports, and compelling rags-to-riches stories from the league.

Transcript

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Hello, it's your favorite sports unc here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Night Cap doesn't happen without you, so please subscribe or you're going to make OO cry. All right, guys, we're gonna get into it. Russell Wilson, he clapped back at his former coach Sean Payton at the post game comments praising Jackson Dart. Yeah, let's take a listen to what Peyton had to say. You know, they found a little spark with that quarterback.

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I was talking to John Marin not.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Too long ago and I said we.

[Colin Coward]

Were hoping that that change would have.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Happened long, long after our game. Russ tweeted back, classless but not surprised. Didn't realize you're still bounty hunting. Bounty hunting 15 plus years through the media. Let's ride. Now, Sean Payton later responded today that he was just talking about, you know, he was praising Jackson Dart. Yeah. Now he mentioned that he had talked to John Mara several weeks earlier, before they even played, before they had even made this switch. God. Y' all know I'm Bronco through and through. Like Sean Payton. I know Sean Payton. We had a very, very close mutual friend, Mike Ornstein. Mike Ornstein passed away.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Rest in peace.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Yes, I know Sean very well. No, you didn't have to. Everybody knows how you feel about Russ. Yeah, Russ probably feel the same way but would never say anything. I'm a little surprised Russ even responded to like it Ocho. But here's the thing. You going to only be able to take so much. Absolutely. Because what you see is just like they keep going and keep going and keep going and then up here. Oh, you weak. You weak. So Russ responded. I don't have a problem with Russ, with Russ saying, but Sean, come on now. Oo. Are you surprised Russia responded and are you surprised this thing is really taking. Got legs and kind of like started running on its own.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

I like the fact that it has legs. I like the fact that it has legs. Sean Payton, he already tried Russ on the sideline. He tried Russ on the sideline, berating him and talking trash to him, actually provoking Russ, hoping he would break character, hoping he would show a different side than who he actually is. He kept calm, mild mannered. Now he takes shots at him again.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Yeah.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

For no reason at all. And I Love Russell. Choir Boy Wilson. But I love the fact that he stood. He stood up for himself. Russell Wilson. Matthew 5. 39. In the Bible, it says turn the other cheek. Well, this time, Russ say he. I done ran out of cheeks. I'm going to clap back. I'm going to fire back at you. I'm going to stand up for myself. And I like him showing some. Some enthusiasm and getting in the fire for a change instead of just letting you know, let it be water off a duck's back, man. Talk your. Russ, it's okay. It's okay.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Guess what?

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

What?

[Host Ian Eagle]

Ain't no person named Shannon in the Bible. I ain't in there. You keep talking back, taking cheap shots at me, I'm gonna put something on you.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Come on, now.

[Host Ian Eagle]

And that's what Russ did. Remember? Remember? Oo.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Come on, Russ.

[Host Ian Eagle]

At some point in time, enough has to be enough. You made your point, right? You didn't want me. You moved on. You have a quarterback in Bo Nicks that seems to be that. He's the guy for the Broncos future. I've gone to two. This is my second team since I've left the Broncos. Yeah, I ain't bothered nobody. Russ, you. You could like or dislike Russ, but the one thing that. You can't say that he's not bothering anybody. He's not talking down. He's not saying anything negative about anybod. So my thing is, why, hey, let.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Me say, Uncle Joe, Russell Wilson, if you want to talk about quarterbacks and the way to conduct yourself as a professional athlete on and off the field, he's a consummate pro. He is the ultimate pro when it comes to doing your job, going to work, being a family man, being a husband, doing everything the right way.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Right.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

The fact that he finally got outside of his character for a change is exciting for me. I like it. I enjoy it. Because. Now, listen, at some point, you gotta. You gotta put a nail in the coffin. Because you don't put a nail in the coffin, they gonna keep digging your grave.

[Host Ian Eagle]

I agree.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

They're gonna keep. They gonna keep on digging your grave and keep digging at you for no reason. There's no reason for. And I know Sean Payton as well. There's no reason for you to do, you know, do that. But you understood. Listen, I gotta. I gotta sit and duck. I got an easy duck. He ain't gonna say nothing. He ain't gonna fire back. But finally, we get a new Russell Wilson. I love this. I love this Russell Wilson. And Russell, I know you're gonna See this? Anybody else say something, you better fire off of their ass, too.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Go ahead, Joe. Hey, I. I agree with both of y'.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Alls.

[Host Ian Eagle]

I think, you know. You know, I think Russ is. Is more so, like, you know, enough is enough, man. He ain't saying nothing. He's been going about his way, you know, tending to his business, and they still taking cheap shots at him. I'm with him, and I'm glad he responded. I'm glad he said something. Be petty, Betty. Go back at him.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Host Ian Eagle]

It doesn't matter how mild man of a person is. Eventually, yeah, eventually, you look at. I mean, you look at any animal, it might be. Even. Even the dog might. You see it. But after a while, he's gonna lash out at you. It's going to lash out because it's only going to take so much. So he. Russ, felt that, okay, former teammates have been taking shots at him, you know, X, Y, and Z, and saying all these things, and now he's like, bro, how much. How much more. How much more crap do y' all want to dump on me and say, man, y' all just pouring perfume on me. Listen, because at some point in time, Ocho, enough is enough.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host Ian Eagle]

You made your point. Okay. Okay. I'm fine. I get it. I get it. I didn't. I didn't live up to the expectations that I had. The coaching staff, the organization, or the fan base of Denver. I didn't meet those expectations. I accept that. But I'm gone. There is no need. There's no reason for you to mention you can praise Jackson Dart without taking a dump on me. Absolutely. Absolutely. Hey, look, praise. Praise your guy, but why would you have to take a shot at me and you. Like I said, he said that he was just praising Jackson Dart. But you said that you had talked to John Mara, who's one half of the owner of the Giants, weeks ago. Even if he had done that, he could have kept that to himself. Yeah, he didn't have to share that. He didn't have to share that, Ocho. He could. He could have just said what he said, like, you know, and maybe with his coaching staff or with his close buddies when he's having a drink, Right? I told you. I told John. That's like, man, I hope y' all make that. Make that change after us, because it's just a matter of time, right?

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And nobody. The way Jackson Dart is playing, I don't think anybody's upset that they made this move. I told Ocho. I said Ocho over under eight weeks. I said, I'm looking like I'm taking the under. Ocho just said, no, I said I'm taking the under.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Because I had seen enough in. I'd seen enough in the preseason. I said, ocho, they're going to make this, make this change sooner than later. Yeah, yeah. But I just don't, I don't, I don't, you know, the continuation of beating down Russia, it's unnecessary. And what is that? I know you're excited. Oh, Joe. You know, we win a game. Oh, Joe, we win a game. Yeah, we beat them. Sorry, raps.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host Ian Eagle]

But we thought y' all had us, didn't. Hey, 33 and the 4. 33. I get all that. But come on now. When is enough enough? Ocho? How, how, how much am I supposed to take?

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

I like it. Hey. Matter of fact, he should have cursed in the tweet. He should have cursed. Go all the way there.

[Host Ian Eagle]

It wasn't enough for you?

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Nah, listen. I like it. Listen. He fired back, but he fired back in a professional manner.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Absolutely.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Man. Come on, man. Hey, Russ, next time, man. Man. Man. What I put. Let me put the tweet together. I'll put the tweet together for you.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Hell no. Hey, listen, but what was it about? Why was Sean Payton bring that up? Honestly, like, what did that have to do with anything? Listen, this is all about.

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Savor responsibly the privileges that was bestowed upon Russ before Sean Payton got there. Yeah, I said some things, and everybody called me a lie. I was talking me and Ocho, and I was having a conversation, and everybody wanted to tell me, shannon, you don't know what's going on because you're not there. I said, you do realize I'm still held in very, very high regard in Denver. You actually think I would say something like this and it not be the gospel? I say, hey, I'm Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. When I speak about something coming out of Denver or Baltimore, it's the gospel. I don't really talk too much about it because y', all, they know, but they try to undermine me and try to say, you not in the locker room or you don't know what I'm talking about. But y' all don't realize how often I call around the league, and a lot of things that's going on that's get reported. That ain't my job. I ain't Adam Schefter. I don't try to be. I'm not Jake Laser. I don't try to be, but I know a lot more than what I say. And when it comes out, like.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

They.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Got mad, I said it. Sean got there when the organ, when they were explaining the privileges that Russ got. Sean like, are you hitting me? Are you kidding me? It's like, no. He's like, no, that is not normal protocol. Nobody in the history had ever had a situation like that. And from that point on, once he heard that it was over, he would have needed to throw for 50 touchdowns, 4,000 yards and get them to the AFC championship. Other than that, it wasn't going to work. So instead of trying to listen to what I was trying to say, try to explain what was transpiring and why so many people were out on Russ in Denver, they wanted to talk about, oh, you talking bad about a black man. You wouldn't Say that about a white guy? When I had called Tom. When I had called Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and Tony Romo in Aaron Rodgers and all these other quarterbacks. But, see, long as I'm talking about them, it's fine, right? All I was saying. I didn't say Russ was a bad person. I said he got privileges. And it made. It made his teammates feel a certain type of way, sort of. We, Ocho, we know who makes the money. Yeah, but just because you make more money, we don't want you getting privileges. We don't want you having offices that none of us like.

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So from that point on, Sean felt some type of way. He felt some type of way. And I get it. I get it. But that man been gone for two years now. It's time to let that go.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Yeah, Joe, you know what it is? What's that? It's the same thing with Melo and George Carl. George Carl keep on poking mellow. Mello don't mention George Carl. But every chance he gets, he tries to poke mellow. Mello's gonna have to look. Mellow's gonna have to draw a line in the sand and say, mo. For if you step across this line again, hey, I'mma have to unleash. You know, he ain't got no problem doing that. You know, Melo ain't got no problem drawing that line. He. He's gonna have to. Because every time, every time, he's always speaking negative. Oh, they couldn't win no championship with that guy. He wouldn't play defense. He wouldn't do this. I get it. You don't like Melo. Everybody is not gonna like everybody. But, bro, you hadn't coached Melo in damn near two decades. What is the issue now? Can we just move on?

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

I mean, obviously, at that point, it'd be better if coaches come out, especially when they continue to do this and they have things to say years removed from dealing or coaching a certain individual. Why don't you just come out and say, you know what? I don't even like this individual. And it's personal. It had nothing to do with the sport. It had nothing to do with basketball, had nothing to do with football, nothing to do with him playing quarterback or whatever it may be. I just don't like him. And that's okay. It would be better suited for us as a public and fans of these sports to come out and have Sean pay say, you know what? I just don't like Russell Wilson. I don't know. I don't know what it is about him. I just don't like him or George Carl. You know what? I don't like Carmelo, whatever it may.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Be, what's understood don't need to be spoken.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Host Ian Eagle]

You know? Yeah, man. I. I don't. I don't. Well, if. Say if, if, if. If somebody continuously cheating on the other party.

[Colin Coward]

Yeah.

[Host Ian Eagle]

What do we. What does he need to say? What does she need to say?

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

None.

[Host Ian Eagle]

You keep doing what you're doing when you know it's wrong.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yes.

[Host Ian Eagle]

I don't need. I don't need. No. No Harvard attorney to try to read between the lines.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yes, sir.

[Host Ian Eagle]

You're telling me the mere fact that you keep taking shots at me publicly is one thing. If it's getting back to me, Ocho. But the mere fact that you're putting it in print, the mere fact that you keep saying it publicly, I can read it for myself. I can see it for myself. It tells me that how you feel about me. But I didn't. I already knew that. I'm like, I've been trying to take the high road, try to remain. Remain professional. I'm trying to build a brand. I don't want to do anything to tarnish that. But hey, bro, I understand. That's not what you are. You don't try to build a brand. You're not really on television. People go to you when they want to get. They want to get clicks, they want to get rage bait material. They'll come to you and you'll say something Mellow is one of the 75 greatest players to ever play in the NBA. We understand what Melo is now. He's a hall of famer. So automatically if somebody says something negative, that's going to get picked up.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Host Ian Eagle]

That is Melo. That's his former coach. I just don't. I just don't get it. We don't have to like all of our teammates. We don't have to like all of our coaches. I. I've had. I had a great relationship with all the coaches. Maybe one or two I didn't really jive with. And yeah, it's okay. But I would never say anything publicly. Absolutely. Hey, look. Or teammate. It's only so much, bro. It's only so. Yeah, bro. Bro. I'm 57. I got grands now. But what I'm talking about what happened 25, 30 years ago. Yeah. What purpose does that serve in a negative light? Yes.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah. Not at all. Not at all. I mean, listen, I get along with everybody. I'd Assume I try to. I. I'd assume everybody loves me the same way I show love. There's only one person I don't get along with. And if. If I ever see him, it's his own site. And.

[Byron Young]

Huh. Would you say, Joe, who was that?

[Host Ian Eagle]

You don't want to say. You don't want.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Oh, James Harrison.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Like. Like it's. It's personal. It's personal. And I say. I say it every day. And I let him know I can't wait to see him. Obviously he doesn't live here in Miami, but the only place I probably see him on what, maybe Super Bowl. Yeah, I'm sure we'll probably cross. We'll cross paths maybe, you know, radio row or some like that. And I. Either he gonna have security or it's just. It's just gonna be a thumping session.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Ocho, I don't know if you want to climb that tree, man.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, one thing. One thing about me. Hey, hey, let me tell you something. Hey, Joe. In high school, they called me Paul Bunyan. You hear me? I used to. Hey, I'm chopping every. I'm chopping everything down.

[Byron Young]

Hey.

[Host Ian Eagle]

All the trees. Hey, hey, hey. As you play a partner, man, I'm trying. Listen, you might want your pass on that one, bro. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe, brush up on your NFL knowledge. What you want to know? I seen. No, I'm just saying. Cause I might need a new partner. Okay, okay. Say less, say less, say less, say less. I'm with you.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, the fact that y' all don't have no faith in me, man. That. That. That y'. All. Y' all not. Y' all not Christian.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Hey, hey, hey. Basically saying you're gonna be concussed, you're gonna be out. You're gonna be out for the rest of this. I'll be. No, we gotta. Look, we got other. We got other business ventures that we're trying to get to, Ocho.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Oh, we gonna get there no matter what. We gonna get there no matter what.

[Host Ian Eagle]

I mean, if you can't talk for.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Like six months, man, trust me, I'm gonna be ok. You. Hey, listen, if you see me in a fight with a bell, you might want to help the bell.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Yeah. Hey, I don't need no partner when he move in the chair like this here. You hear me? I can't. I can't use no partner like that. I need a real partner. Somebody to go laugh and joke and get up out the chair. Hey, hey, hey, Ocho, I got. I got a Question. What's your game plan, though? Like, what y'. All. Y' all getting in the oxygen. What y' all doing?

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, listen, I. Listen. Octagon street boxing ring. It don't matter on site. It don't matter, Joe. Like, I'm at that point, like, I'm kind of frustrated because I keep challenging him and he really don't want no smoke. He's not responding. That lets me know. I mean, all that size and muscle don't mean nothing, man.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Okay, hey, hey, from me to you, bro. Just keep your distance. Stick and move. Don't.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, that's. Hey, Joe.

[Host Ian Eagle]

That's what I'm gonna do. Joe, don't. Yeah, there you go.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, hey, look at. Look at my rain. Yeah, you know, I'm keeping my distance, yo. Like, I might. I might get mid ranging now and get close up on him.

[Host Ian Eagle]

No, no, don't do that. Don't do that. No, don't get close. Keep that distance. Use that jab. You gotta use that jab, baby.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, Joe, use that thing. Joe. I'm using. I'm telling you, man, let's. Hey, I'm listen, hey, one thing about.

[Host Ian Eagle]

It, the first.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

God always been on my side, you hear me? And all my.

[Host Ian Eagle]

I'm on your side.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

I'm saying I'm pulling off you. I mean, but y' all sound like y' all ain't on my side. Y' all telling me I'm gonna be hurt and I ain't gonna be able to talk and.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Yeah, it ain't gonna be. Ain't looking good.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

All right.

[Host Ian Eagle]

But no, what we try to do, Ocho, we trying to keep you safe.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

I'm safe. When I get in the car, I put my seat.

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[Colin Coward]

Hi, it's Colin from the Colin Coward Podcast. That would make sense that I would be the host of the Colin Coward Podcast. I mean, that's the way I see it. I've been around long enough to know quality when I see it. Or in this case, when I taste it. Tito's Handmade vodka. Good stuff. No flash, no gimmicks. Smooth, clean tasting. Made the right way.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Okay.

[Colin Coward]

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[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Bet on.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Oh, you got a manufacturer guest joining us tonight, tied for the league. League and sacks with nine. A third round pick out of the University of Tennessee Volunteer. He grew up the youngest of 13 siblings. Wow. Byron Young. Rams. Los Angeles Rams. Bro, how you doing?

[Byron Young]

I'm doing great, man. Appreciate y' all having me.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Nah, bro. Appreciate you coming on.

[Byron Young]

Sir, yes, sir.

[Host Ian Eagle]

You on one side, Jerry Verse on the other. You got the big guy pushing, collapsing the pocket. How fun is it rushing the passer in that situation? Because it's first come, first serve, you know, you got to get off because Verse on the other side.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Oh, yeah.

[Byron Young]

Oh, yeah. It's always a, you know, race to the quarterback. You know, I saying like this, you know, saying, you know, meet me there, beat me there. You know, having Braden fist Kobe turning in the middle with Jared Verse on the other end. You know, you have no choice but to get off. So, you know, they just motivate me and push me to go harder.

[Host Ian Eagle]

I was reading the story back in 2018. You was working a ship at Burger King and Dollar General. You saw a flyer on the store bulletin board. It's like Georgia military college holding open trials for football. Yeah, hold on. You're like, hold on.

[Byron Young]

Man.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Let me take this apron, this fry cap off and get back. So did you play football in high school?

[Byron Young]

Yes, sir. I played in high school. I just really went. Recruited. For real? Nah. Yeah.

[Host Ian Eagle]

So you go. So you go trial.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

So.

[Host Ian Eagle]

So what. What did they have you do? You had to run drill. You had to run a 40. So what did you want? What did you. What did this trial encompass?

[Byron Young]

Basically, it was the 40. Kind of like what you said. You had to do the bench press at 225. You had to do like, change directions and like they basically were doing, like, measurements.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Yeah.

[Byron Young]

To see where you were at. And that was kind of like it. For the most part. It was like a hundred, 100 guys there.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Were you the only one that made it?

[Byron Young]

I was. I was the only one that made it off the spot. So, like, it was other guys that got called back because you kind of. It's like two trials. You kind of like have the second trial in the spring when you kind of have spring ball. But I was like the only one to make the team from that, though.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Wow.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, hey, most of the time when you're growing up too, obviously in, in the NFL, you play defense in. When you were younger, what position did you play? I know you. I know you weren't playing DM back then.

[Host Ian Eagle]

No, I played running back. What?

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

You were toting that ball. You were toting the p. What?

[Byron Young]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I played running back all through high school. That's why I've like, always been fans.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Right, so at what point did you. Did your body. Did your body, you know, grow into. Actually, now I can be on the defensive side of the ball. And you got a little bigger?

[Byron Young]

Well, actually, my senior year, like, I was like big in high school, but my senior year I played both sides, right. And I played stand up linebacker my senior year, high school. So it's kind of like transition after that.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Are you from Georgia?

[Byron Young]

No, I'm from Georgetown, but I moved to Georgia after I graduated high school in 20.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Georgetown, South Carolina.

[Byron Young]

Georgetown, South Carolina. Yes.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, matter of fact, you know what? I got a little. I got a small look. You ain't know this, right? See, hey, by you ain't know, I know this. You and Melissa Jefferson come from the same small town too?

[Byron Young]

Yeah, yeah, we went to the. We went to the same high school. It was on the same track team.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Ah, wait, you ran track too?

[Byron Young]

Yeah, I ran track my senior year.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Wait, what, what, what, what race?

[Byron Young]

I was on the 4x1.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Okay, okay, okay. So you, you, you. You get called. So how did you. How did you end up at Tennessee?

[Byron Young]

Honestly, that was the first powerp school to offer me, so.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Really?

[Byron Young]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir, it was. I felt like it was a sign from God, so, you know, I just went with them.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's dope, man.

[Host Ian Eagle]

And you, hey, you got, hey, Playing the sec. So was that always your dream to play in the NFL? You just had a. Took a little detour? Took you a little while, but hey, you ended up where you ended up and you got to ultimately your ultimate destination. Was that always your goal? So what, what did Byron wanted to be when he was growing up? When he was a kid, he was 8, 9, 10 years of age. What did you want to be?

[Byron Young]

I always wanted to be in the NFL. I always wanted to go in the NFL. I'd be lying to you if I told you that. I just knew this would have happened like based off my journey. But like my mindset was I just never wanted to quit. You know, I always like wanting to somehow get back into playing football, but I really just didn't know how that would look like, you know, growing up, like just being around a lot of people that really didn't really make it to the NFL. So it's kind of hard to kind of navigate and find your ways through there. So like, you know, it was just unpredictable. But I always kept faith.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Wow, that's that, man, that's unbelievable. That's an unbelievable story. So you get drift. So you go to the University of Tennessee, you have an outstanding collegiate career and now it's draft. So what were the scouts telling you? Did you know, you go, did they tell you, okay, you might be a first round pick, you could be a late first round pick, early second. Did they tell you day one, day two? What, what, what were you hearing when you were coming out?

[Byron Young]

I was really hearing day two. Some said possibly day three, but mostly it was day two. My biggest knock was my age, so I was like an older guy. They like how mature I was with my age. So it really will always day two, but possibly day three because of that. So.

[Host Ian Eagle]

You found the home now rushing to pass her. This is your third year, right?

[Byron Young]

Yes, sir.

[Host Ian Eagle]

So you did you get, so you got one year with A.D. got one year with A.D. oh yeah, man, can you, do you, do you sit back and think, say, man, can I imagine me versus AD right now, knowing what I know now versus knowing what he knows now? And you talking about arguably the greatest defensive tackle to ever play, one of the five greatest defensive players. And the way our office can score and be and we ahead and now I just get to hunt the quarterback. They got the double 99. They got to.

[Byron Young]

Well, I think about that every day. I just feel like I took some, you know something, I feel like I took it for granted a little bit my rookie year, but I just said I was learning, you know, I was growing. But like now I just look back in my third year, I was like, man, if we, if we could have him too, you know. But you Know, you know, I'm just thankful that I had one year, you know, with him and him, you know, teaching me things and, you know, just, just being my mentor and stuff.

[Host Ian Eagle]

What were some of the things that he taught you? So to watch him, obviously he played the three to five. It's a different. You mainly edge. You're on the edge normally. Occasionally you put your hand in dirt, but you like to rush to pass them from a stand up position, sir.

[Byron Young]

Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. Stand up. Kind of was doing that at Tennessee for the most part. That's when I kind of started dropping though. So, yeah, stand up outside linebacker. But you know, being with AD and some of the things he kind of taught me, just be patient. You know, I feel like as a rookie, you always trying to be perfect, you always not trying to make mistakes. So I feel like coming in, I script so much about like I'm trying to be perfect. I'm not trying to do this wrong. And you know, he always just said, you know, just be patient, just let it come to you, you know, like you're going to make mistakes and just learn from him. But, you know, that was something that always stuck with me.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

And so coming into the season, obviously, would it be your third year, you obviously, you have team goals, but have your personal goals, obviously. I'm sure the sacks and the trajectory you are on right now so far this season, are there any other goals you had set in mind from an individual's perspective going into this season?

[Byron Young]

Oh, definitely. Making my first Pro bowl, you know, being all Pro, you know, that that's, that's always been a dream come true for me. You know, that's something I always wanted. You know, just, you know, just watching the guys that I looked up to, like Vaughn Miller and those guys like that, like one of my favorite players ever. And just watch how they just go about business and you know, every year making a Pro bowl and it's just like, that's something I always wanted to do. So come into, you know, my third year, my goal is, you know, off field, of course, as a team, make it to the Super Bowl. But for myself, All Pro, you know, Pro bowl, you know, and defense player of the year. That's why I'm looking, that's why I'm reaching, you know, every, every day I work. That's why, you know, that's what I'm trying to accomplish.

[Host Ian Eagle]

So, you know, by the easiest thing you'll do is make it to the Pro bowl once. Now what happens when they get like, you know, what we gonna sit our game plan to. By now we slide the protection. Now we have the back chip on his way out. Now we have the tight end chip on his way out. Now, the second Pro bowl, the third Pro bowl, those are the ones that get hard because now they know what you can do. And now you have expectations for yourself. The fans, management, they have greater expectations because they saw what you've done. You've gone to the Pro Bowl. You're like, hey, I got nine sacks. Hold on. I think we got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. We got nine more. We got nine, 10 games. Hold on. If I get a sack of game, get a couple two sack gang, man, I could get 20 sacks.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Oh, yeah.

[Host Ian Eagle]

And now you're like, oh, 20 sacks.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, they don't have to come see you.

[Host Ian Eagle]

They pay big bucks for 20 sacks. 26 come see you. Hey, I go by. I go back about all of Georgetown.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah. Hey, what's the name? Stan. Stan what?

[Host Ian Eagle]

Stan Cronky.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah. Tell stan we won 49 a year.

[Byron Young]

Yeah.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Yeah. Hey. Ah, 50. Hey. So. So coming into the sea, obviously, you know, your third year, what are some of the things you work on? Look, you got great get off. Obviously you can convert speed to power. So. So what. What. What was you working on in office? Because each year you work on something to try to improve, to get better. Because sometimes the moves that you work worked on that worked. This year, it might not work. I'm not getting rid of them, but I got to have another trick in my bag that I need to pull out, especially when I got to get off the field. We got to make sure we get off the field. We got to make sure we keep them out of field goal range. We got to make sure we keep them out of the end zone. So what were some of the things that you was working on this. This offseason by, you know, this offseason?

[Byron Young]

Going into my third year, just looking back at my first two years, I just feel like I wanted to take a different approach. So I took on, you know, Pilates. I started doing Pilates three days out of the week just to build my body and, you know, just how core get flexible. Yeah. Working them little muscles, you know what I'm saying? But longevity and stuff like that and to help prevent injury. So I feel like doing Pilates definitely help my body type and help me being able to dig, then getting off the ball faster, you know, flexibility and everything, bending the corner, you know how I do. So it's like those. Some of the Things that I was doing, I was really consistent at it. I feel like I seen the different things that helped and just putting in extra work, you know, getting more get offs, working my technique more, getting more film studies, studying myself, you know, and studying where I lacked last, my last two years. And I was just trying to improve from that. So my goal every time I step on the field is improve, you know, something that I didn't do good yesterday. Whether it's get off, whether it's foster, whether it's. And use my hands, you know, whether padlock. I always try and just like get better at something, you know, every practice. So that's kind of my approach. That was taking OTAs and count being more attention.

[Host Ian Eagle]

You guys still run the hoop. That circle that, you know, you try to ride it and stay as low as you possibly can. Y' all still do that?

[Byron Young]

Well, we kind of do that. We kind of do something else with the medicine ball. We like have the medicine ball. We kind of fill up our hips, but we kind of like do it around the whole hoop. But we don't. I know what you're talking about. We don't really do like that too much.

[Host Ian Eagle]

So when. At the end of this season. Look, hey, you're a third round pick. Oh, they got to come see you after this year. Yeah, they gotta come see you by. Oh, so you going crazy. You really try to leave. I was going to get this 20 piece out here.

[Byron Young]

That's always the goal, is just, you know, try to get to that second deal. So I'm definitely working for that for sure.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Byron Young]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Man. Congratulations on all your success, man. I mean, it wasn't. Oh, let me ask you this. The youngest of 13. How many. How many. How many brothers? How many. How many boys? How many girls?

[Byron Young]

Nine boys and four girls.

[Host Ian Eagle]

And you the youngest?

[Byron Young]

I'm the youngest. Yeah, man.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Mom and pop wasn't playing.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's dope. That's last.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Hey, so. So I'm talking about. So when y' all get. Oh, Georgetown. So y' all eat some. Anything down there. I know about that low country.

[Byron Young]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host Ian Eagle]

All the hogs. Y' all put everything in a pot. They call it potluck. Ocho. They put it all in the pot. You lucky if it don't kill you. But they gonna eat good.

[Byron Young]

Nah, not facts. You're gonna eat good when you go back home.

[Host Ian Eagle]

So. So what was it like? So you go to the NFL? Is there anybody from Georgetown? How close is Georgetown? The Monks corner to, like, Somerville and Charles. That how close are you to that?

[Byron Young]

The Charleston's like an hour away from Georgia our way. Yeah. It's not.

[Host Ian Eagle]

It's not too crazy, is it? Is there any four. Hold on. I think. Where is. I think if Jumpy gathers from down your way.

[Byron Young]

Yeah, yeah. That's my family. They're from Choppy. They from around the way in Georgetown, too.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Yeah, I played with Jumpy.

[Byron Young]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host Ian Eagle]

I played with your bad jumping. Oh, Lord. Jumping the country is, man.

[Byron Young]

Hey.

[Host Ian Eagle]

I don't know what he had, but he had some stuff in a green bottle. He rub it on his knee, rub it on his ankle, and then drank it. He talking about, you want to try something? I said, nah, I'm good. You know, my knee don't hurt no more.

[Byron Young]

Yeah, them boys be different over there for sure.

[Host Ian Eagle]

You got home remedies like that.

[Byron Young]

I mean, not like that, but we got some stuff that we do. But that was. Yeah, I ain't never heard of that. That's probably way back in the day.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Yeah. Hey, meanwhile, thanks for joining us, man. Continued success. Stay healthy, and you lead the league in sacks. Come back and tell us how you did it.

[Byron Young]

Yes, sir. I appreciate y' all having me, man. Thank you, y'.

[Host Ian Eagle]

All. We appreciate you coming, man. Get some rest. Stay healthy. Best of luck the rest of the year. Hey, this off season, Stan Crockett give you that five year, 175. 200. 200. We need two. Okay. I ain't say no more. I ain't gonna say no more.

[Byron Young]

I got you. I got.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Appreciate you, bro. Good luck. All the best.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

All right.

[Byron Young]

Thank you. Bad.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Hold on.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Let me use the bathroom.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Go ahead, man. That's a. He's a. You can see he's a very. You can tell he's mature and, you know, and you see now, you see, you heard what they say because of his age. Now you see why them guys try to get out of school early. Because they hold that against you. Because they look at it like, if you're that good, why are you still in school? They use the man age against it. Now he got an A. He gonna hit that jackpot, though. He gonna get paid, and deservedly so. I love people that, you know, he's a fighter, come from Georgetown. Not a whole lot, you know, going on down there, but he's like, hey, same thing with Melissa. And. And to see where he's. Where he came from, and. And to. To see where he's headed, man, he seems so mature. He seems like he got, you know, he's he's well grounded. And man, I'm. I'm excited. I'm excited to see what this season and what it unfolds for Mocho. Oh, Isaiah Rogers had a bad day on the football field. He gave up a 79 yard touchdown to Devonte Smith. He gave up a touchdown to A.J. brown and his DMs was on swole, but nothing caused him. Deserved a bit. Look at what he said. We got it up on the screen. Go effing it, face. You effing suck effing third down. You know it's a pass. You just gave the Eagles the win. Good elf face. You know, with all else fails, if they really want to get up under your skin, you know, they go, hey, they got. They gotta put that in. In there. They got to put that. They got to put that one in there. You're worse than Hitler. He'll have never been picked up. Worthless piece of crap. Waste of air. N word again.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Oh, man. Hey, that's funny, bro. That's funny. And listen, at this day and age.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Yeah, you go to, oh, Joe did it. Then he's like, all right, bro, my bad. Just lock in. Nah, nah, nah, don't delete it now. No, keep that name. No. Would you be all right just like. No, no, no, no, no, no. You should have just. That's what you should have said at first. Yeah, come on, bro. Hey, lock in. Nah, but you want to get all that off.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Listen, you understand the climate we in? You understand the climate we're in. They're fans. When you're playing well, when you're not playing well, they'll tell you and talk, talk to you, truly, how they feel about you.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Yes.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's all. It's the world we live in.

[Host Ian Eagle]

But once you realize, once you realize, Ocho, they applaud what you do, not who you are, you're fine. The mistake is that they applaud what you do, not who you are.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

And listen, they're not a fan of you. They're a fan of the team that you happen to play for.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Exactly. And then guess what? Cause that's how he really feel. Cause when I get upset, when I get upset, the first thing that I go through, when I get somebody, the first thing I ain't thinking the most. What is the worst thing that I know? Oh, you're in. Or that ain't what I do. But they try to go, what. What's the lowest thing? What is the most hurtful thing that I can say that I can get a rise out of Said individual.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

And you can get a rise now. You can get a rise if you really care about it.

[Host Ian Eagle]

He probably see Isaiah Rogers. What's up, Rogers? Hey, bro. What up, man? Dapping him up. I just. I just don't get it.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's right.

[Host Ian Eagle]

I never will.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

I mean, I. I don't know how other people react to it. Words, stuff, type. Let that stuff bother me. I could care less. It go in one. The other.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Well, did you. Did you get this? Did they have. Did they have Twitter and IG when.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

You played for the end of my career. Yeah. Yeah.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Oh, okay.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, I. I didn't care. I don't care. I didn't care what you say.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

I. I understand the world we live in. I understand even though you can't see it, the way people feel, it's still out there.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

And I understand that.

[Byron Young]

So.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Well, they got it where? They got. They got a. They got a. They got a. A black card that have unlimited access to say whatever you want to know. In the climate that we're in now, we're as divisive as we've ever been as a country. I don't see it getting any better on the horizon. I stay in my lane. I ain't got time arguing with y'. All. I'm not going back and forth with y'. All. I know how y' all feel about me. I'm gonna stand up. I'm gonna keep it moving. Go ahead. But I've been very. I've been very blessed, Ocho. Is that when I've traveled and you and I both travel a lot of work, everybody is great. I haven't met not one person. People that hide behind their computer screen, you know, everybody got. Everybody got thumb muscles.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

What kind of muscles?

[Host Ian Eagle]

Thumb muscles got. They tight. Real, real tough.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, that's funny. Damn, man.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Okay, I'm sorry. I know what I did was wrong, and I should never have done that. Why? You shouldn't have. So now your boss might see that it might cost you your job.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, did you change your tone up real quick?

[Host Ian Eagle]

Yeah. He didn't put your name.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Oh, he lucky. He could have been messy, too, now. Messy?

[Host Ian Eagle]

Yeah, that's. That's a part of it. It's always been a bad way. So think about this, Ocho. That's because he played bad. You used to get this just because you were that color. Think about if he. If he went through this. Think about what Jackie Robinson went through. Think about what all the black players went through. Think about. They had a Rule they end up. I ain't gonna even say, look, but they used to be the NFL. They wouldn't allow black players in. But we go to. We ain't gonna talk about that, Ocho, think about that. Just because, just because I hadn't done anything. I just want to, Hey, I just want to make a living.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's it. Got. I want to feed my kids. That's it.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Yeah. He, when he picked up the. Yeah. The statement from the Minnesota Vikings. We are disgusted by the racial slurs directed at Isaiah Rogers following yesterday's game. As we have said previously, there is simply no room for racist words or action in sports or society. We support Isaiah and all players who unfortunately experience this type of ignorant and prejudicial behavior far too often. And we ask our fans to continue to fight to eliminate racism.

[Byron Young]

Yeah.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Hey, yes.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

We've been putting out quotes and speeches and putting symbols, logos and slogans, painting the street.

[Host Ian Eagle]

And you love over hate, end racism. All that other stuff, that ain't nothing.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

It's not stopping.

[Host Ian Eagle]

It ain't going nowhere. It ain't going nowhere. I, I just how you treat, how you treat me, I understand it. I know you don't like me, okay? I, I, we ain't got to deal with each other. We ain't got to deal with each other, Ocho. If I know somebody doesn't like me, why do I, why am I, why would I go, why would I go to anything that that person is having? Why would I give. I don't follow people that don't like me. I don't go to their page. That's what I don't get you. Oh, you don't like something that I said. You want my page. I didn't say it to you. I don't get it. I don't. And I never would. You know what, Ocho? Everything is not meant to be understood. I mean, I had to learn.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

You understand the history of it, you know, it's not going nowhere.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Oh, I understand it. Yeah.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

You know, you know, you have some that you, you have some that are genuinely not like that, genuinely not like that, don't have a hate and a bad bone in their body.

[Host Ian Eagle]

And, yeah, I think, you know, the thing is, and I obviously, clearly, I've been, I've been retired two decades, and none of this was out when I was done, but I'm not so sure I would have been on social media when I played during the season. I had a singular focus. And, you know, look, I, Everybody wasn't happy. Everybody's not going to be happy for you, but I. Ocho, when you went to Pittsburgh, you expected to win. Tell me I suck. Just keep it. Hey, just keep it. Just keep it. Hey, we're going to keep everything above the belt. No low blows. You ain't got to call me in. You ain't got to talk about my mom and stuff like that. All that ain't necessary. Cause you and I both know if I'm walking down the street, you ain't gonna say, hey, Ian, all that stuff that you say on Twitter and that you all tough about. Y' all not gonna say that? Y' all not.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

No.

[Host Ian Eagle]

At least I haven't met anybody. People. Look, can I. Can my son take a picture with you? I mean, I get sometimes. Hey, bro, I don't want to take no pictures. And no choke. You'll see him do this. Hit the thing. Hit the turnaround on the camera and still try to snap it.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Get you anyway. Yes.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Or you be sitting in your seat, Ocho. And all of a sudden, they pretend like. They pretend like they looking at something. I'm looking just like, oh, y. I'm just like this here. I'm like, but really, bro, you're not gonna ask? You just gonna take it without my permission?

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Oh, I was in the. George was. George was with me the other day. So this guy coming to me like, man, can I take a picture? I was like, bro, he's like, I don't normally do this, so why you doing it? I said, well, how many famous or semi famous people. People you see in the airport? I've never seen anybody. That's why you don't do it. He make it seem like he just. He just. He walking down Rodeo Drive and see a list celebrities, and he passing them up. But he said, yeah, I don't normally do this. I said, well, how many, you know, famous people? Assuming famous people you see in the airport? I've really never seen no one. I said, well, that's probably why you don't do it. A random person not gonna let you take no picture with them.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

It's so. It's so funny when people. People say, I normally don't do this. Listen, I hate to bother you. Hey, I hate to bother you, but I'm gonna bother you anyway, basically. Come on, man, just take the picture.

[Host Ian Eagle]

But they wait till they get done eating. I'm just about to eat. So they getting ready to leave, Ocho. I'm at the gym. They done got their workout in. You mind if I get a picture? Well, let me get my workout in like you got yours in and we get one afterwards. How you gonna get your workout in? Finish up then. You gonna interrupt my workout? You didn't interrupt your workout. Now when you was working out, not one time you say, could you get a picture? Cause you was focused on getting your workout. Now I'm trying to get mine in. You mind if I get a picture?

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah. Hey, listen, people already know. If you catch me in public. You good, you good, you good? Hey, Young, I be having people feeling like I done went to high school. Like I got people feeling like it's a goddamn high school reunion, like we went to school together or some shit.

[Host Ian Eagle]

I put party to part B. I'll.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

Be moving you in and out. Hey, you mess around.

[Host Ian Eagle]

Hey, but I don't really go.

[Joe (Co-host/Commentator)]

You mess around and stop me, boy, we'll be sitting there talking for 20 minutes.

[Host Ian Eagle]

I ain't got that kind of time. Cause we're in a hurry. We get. We get from point A to point B, Jordan and I. Hey, I'm in a hurry, Ocho, because the last thing I. Boy, I missed my flight. I mean, one time we almost missed a flight. We was coming from Houston, then we went to. With the Salt Lake. Remember? They diverted us to Salt Lake? Yes. They had a four hour delay. Yes. And Shelly was on the thing. Shelly was booked. Had already booked us on another flight. So what? Shelly, you know, she booked the flight, she'll book one flight and then after flight, and then if we get that one, she'll cancel, you know, she'll cancel it. But man, I was like, man, what if flights, man, they got to do better than this.

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