Best of NFL News Part 1: Shedeur QB1, Grandpa Rivers in Indy, and Pickens SORRY?!

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Best of NFL News Part 1: Shedeur QB1, Grandpa Rivers in Indy, and Pickens SORRY?!

Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guests/Co-hosts: Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Release Date: December 13, 2025

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Episode Overview

This "Best of NFL News" episode of Club Shay Shay, hosted by NFL Hall of Famer Shannon Sharpe and featuring the ever-candid Ocho, dives into some of the hottest and most intriguing storylines from the NFL season. The conversation moves from the Browns' decision to start rookie Shedeur Sanders at quarterback, to the Indianapolis Colts’ desperate call to retired QB Philip Rivers, and finally to drama around George Pickens’ effort in Pittsburgh. The episode is packed with honest takes, football wisdom, playful banter, and classic storytelling in Shannon’s signature style.

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Key Topics & Segment Breakdowns

1. Browns Name Shedeur Sanders as QB1 (03:21–17:12)

Browns Make a Crucial QB Move

• The Browns officially name rookie Shedeur Sanders their starting quarterback for the remainder of the season, ending week-to-week uncertainty.
• Kevin Stefanski (Browns Head Coach) is notably reluctant to directly name Shedeur, instead giving general comments about "young players" (03:47).

Notable Quote:

“I think he's constantly and consistently gotten better... He's very intentional about getting better each and every game.”
— Kevin Stefanski (03:47)

Debate: Did the Browns Wait Too Long?

• Shannon and Ocho dissect if the Browns made a mistake delaying the move.
• Ocho emphasizes the advantage of removing doubt for Shedeur.

  “There's no more confusion. You're not looking over your shoulder. ...When preparation meets opportunity, this is what you get.” (04:50)

• Both discuss the Browns’ persistent struggles identifying a franchise quarterback.

Notable Quote:

“It's OK to admit we made a mistake, right? We all have the luxury of hindsight. ...It shows maturity that when we're wrong, we’re man or woman enough to say that.”
— Shannon Sharpe (06:54)

Evaluation of Sanders' Growth & Outlook

• Shannon praises Sanders for his attention to detail and work ethic.
• Discussion on the high number of Browns starting quarterbacks over decades.
• Ocho touts the importance of Sanders taking on difficult late-season opponents as a true test.

“Shador's job is to show them they don't need a quarterback. … Show them you got the right guy. … Sometimes you gotta kiss a lot of dragons to find your princess.”
— Shannon Sharpe (16:11, 16:50)

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2. Colts Call on “Grandpa” Philip Rivers (21:23–29:01)

Colts' Quarterback Crisis

• With Daniel Jones and Riley Leonard injured, the 8–5 Colts invite 44-year-old, recently made grandfather Philip Rivers for a workout, hoping the retired legend can save their season (21:23).
• Rivers’ Hall of Fame eligibility would reset if he joins an active roster (22:13).

Notable Exchange:

“I like the opportunity for him. Even though he’s 44...we need a quarterback that’s a veteran and give us a veteran presence.”
— Ocho (22:39)
“He has no mobility. … He really never had any mobility. So imagine him at 44.”
— Shannon (23:47)

Colts’ Hard Luck and Anthony Richardson’s Future

• Segues into broader Colts misfortunes: repeated injuries, trade disappointment, and lack of QB stability.
• Shannon questions Richardson’s trajectory after repeated missed opportunities.

Notable Quote:

“A man that got 10 kids, got grandkids, that’s been retired… you sitting on that bench. …What does that say about you?”
— Shannon (24:46)

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3. The Bengals’ Trey Hendrickson Injury News (32:05–34:21)

Bengals Lose Key Defensive Piece

• Shannon breaks the news that DE Trey Hendrickson will have core muscle surgery and miss the season (32:05).
• Ocho downplays the impact, remarking Hendrickson has been out for weeks:

  “But hell, he ain’t been there the past few weeks anyway.” (32:36)

Athlete Health & Conditioning Banter

• Ocho jokes about injuries and his own durability during his playing days:

  “I played all them years with no injuries, man… What I was able to do, that ain’t number God.” (33:47, 33:49)

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4. Titans Reporter Breaches Trust, Gets Banned from Flights (38:09–41:58)

Media Ethics & Locker Room Trust

• Shannon recounts the story of a Titans sideline reporter removed from team flights after sharing off-the-record locker room stories.
• Both emphasize unwritten rules of behind-the-scenes NFL life.

Notable Quotes:

“You keep your mouth shut. …You don’t get to go on the team plane [and] just take everything you see and try to use it to your advantage.”
— Shannon & Ocho (39:07–39:46)

Legendary Access Stories

• Shannon and Ocho reminisce about unrestricted access with their former teams—and the importance of not abusing that privilege.

“Even though I had the access I had, I didn’t go back and take advantage of it.”
— Shannon (42:37)
“The warmth and the welcome and the grace that they’ve shown me…when I am no longer of any value to you, and they still treat me like that.”
— Ocho (43:22)

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5. George Pickens Effort & Apology Controversy (53:18–59:10)

Coaches, Accountability, and Player Image

• Shannon reports Head Coach Brian Schottenheimer talked with WR George Pickens about his lack of effort, with Pickens owning up privately (53:18).
• Ocho is adamant Pickens won’t apologize publicly to Richard Sherman:

  “That ain’t coming.” (53:59)

Contract Implications & Professionalism

• Extended debate on how moments like these factor into negotiating contracts and organization trust.
• Ocho and Shannon stress effort, consistency, and perception matter.

“When people start putting stuff in your contract, what are they trying to tell you? We don’t trust you.”
— Shannon (58:10)

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6. Chiefs Facing End of an Era (64:48–70:33)

Travis Kelce’s Honest Reflection

• With the Chiefs (6–7) on the brink of missing the playoffs, Travis Kelce admits,

  “I feel like I’ve always had answers in years past, and this year I just can’t find them.” (64:48–65:35)

The Athlete’s Inevitable Decline

• Shannon and Ocho reflect on the pain of facing “the end.”
• Shannon draws on his own late-career experience, highlighting the gradual realization of declining performance.

Memorable Moment:

“It’s hard for a great player to give it up. That’s all you know. …One thing about it…that film won’t lie to you, that let you know. You might think you great, but the eye in the sky does not lie.”
— Ocho (71:35)

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Best Quotes

• On Admitting Mistakes:
  “It’s OK to admit we made a mistake, right? …It shows maturity…” (Shannon, 06:54)
• On Quarterback Turmoil:
  “They had damn near as many quarterbacks as we’ve had U.S. Presidents. But Shador says it stops with me.” (Shannon, 16:53)
• On NFL Trust:
  “You done messed up a good opportunity just to have a story.” (Ocho, 39:56)
• On Contracts and Trust:
  “When people start putting stuff in your contract…We don’t trust you.” (Shannon, 58:10)
• On Aging in the NFL:
  “The eye in the sky does not lie. …Watch how easy they go down.” (Ocho, 71:35, 74:12)

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Additional Playful Banter & Memorable Moments

• Ocho’s joke: “His wife left him. Now he’s a solo Cup.” (17:42)
• Shannon and Ocho teasing each other about growing beards (62:10).
• Behind-the-scenes stories about team flights, movies, and locker room protocols (49:14–52:37).

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Useful Timestamps

• Browns Name Shedeur QB1: 03:21–17:12
• Colts Call on Rivers: 21:23–29:01
• Bengals & Hendrickson Injury: 32:05–34:21
• Reporters on Team Planes Drama: 38:09–41:58
• Pickens Effort/Apology Segment: 53:18–59:10
• Chiefs, Kelce & Athlete Decline: 64:48–74:12

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Conclusion

Club Shay Shay’s NFL News special is equal parts football insight, locker room reality, and the real talk you only get from pros who have lived it. Shedeur Sanders finally gets his chance, the Colts throw a Hail Mary to Grandpa Rivers, Pickens gets called out for effort, and the Chiefs stare down the end of an era. Through it all, Shannon and Ocho keep it honest, funny, and uniquely their own—a must-listen for NFL fans who want the stories behind the headlines.

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Hey, guys, it's your favorite UNC here. Go ahead and click that subscribe button below so you don't miss a single episode of Nightcap. That button right here. Come for the sports. Stay for the stories. All right. Oo, but here's the, here's the deal. The Browns have finally named Shador their starting quarter quarterback for the rest of the season. No more week to week bull job. Here's what Stefanski had to say about it today.

[Kevin Stefanski]

Yeah, I think all along, Mary Kay, as you know, with our quarterbacks and our young players, you're always making sure that you're making the right decisions for our guys. And I think he's, he has constantly and consistently gotten better in each one of these games and how he's approached this game. He's been working very hard. So I feel good about where his development is heading. He knows there's, there are always going to be plays that he can be better and, and those type of things, but he's very intentional about getting better each and every game. He's out there.

[Ocho]

Kevin, hi. Was it a mistake not to start shur earlier?

[Kevin Stefanski]

Yeah, I'm not going to get into those type of things, Tony. I'm obviously focused on what's in front of us.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I mean, that's a good, that's a good thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Better when you could actually, when he can actually get on the field and show you what he can do. Yes. Standing on the side, flipping the ball and, and, and, and, and going through his drop backs when he ain't throwing to nobody. Right. Look. Oo yeah. I want to hear what you got to say on this.

[Ocho]

I mean, I was just gonna say it's a good thing. There's no, there's no more confusion. You're not looking over your shoulder. You can go out there, you can lock in and do what you need to do. Preparation. You say it all the time. I've said it all the time. And that goes for anybody, whether it's sports, whether it's life in general. When preparation meets opportunity, when opportunity meets preparation, this is what you get. You get games like this. So the more, the more he gets to, to jail and build that, that continuity and chemistry with his offense and his receivers and his offensive lineman, the better he going to look on the field. And just, just to think about it, if I think about what he would look like if he looked like this in his third game, what do you think it would look like if you've been playing all season long, there's nothing we can do about that. All we can do is think about and start from where we are right now. The game you had last week, what you want to do is you want to build off of that. Build off of that and continue to go forward, finish the season off strong. So they have no choice. So they have no choice. Even if you might be auditioning for another team. Listen, we can take him, but if he can do what he doing right now for the Cleveland Browns organization, imagine if we were able to bring him in here. But, well, we have a better supporting cast to put around him. So I think he's auditioning still. If he's not going to be in Cleveland next year, he's auditioning for another job somewhere else where he can be the starter and not have to worry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I agree. Can Stefanski not say sure. Is sh. Words. Is that out of his vocabulary? Because why can't he just say the man? Why can't he say the man's name? Why did he say. When we dealing with young players, you know what I think Shador's doing? I think Shador has progressed very, very well.

[Ocho]

You know why?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like. I like what I've seen. Even though when he wasn't playing, you can tell a guy that's being very attentive. The guy that's. That's. That's a very attention to detail. You see the way he takes copious notes when he's in meetings. You see the way he goes about his business at practice, although he wasn't getting reps with the. With the starters. And, and he didn't start getting reps till later in the season.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's okay. Excuse me? It is okay to admit we made a mistake, right? It's okay to say, you know what? Yeah, maybe if things look different. We all have the luxury of hindsight. It's a magnificent science. We have the luxury of knowing today what we didn't know yesterday. Yes, sir, I get that and I get your questions and all your questions are very, very valid. But if I were to answer her question, if I would ask the reporter's question in honesty now, I look bad, this organization look bad, and I don't want that.

[Ocho]

Right? You see what you just did? Did you see how you answered that question so eloquently? Not only do you. Not only did you answer eloquently, you threw a word in there. I don't know what the hell it meant. So that's why I Raised them. Hey, that's why I raised my finger. I want you to go back to that because. What kind of notes did he take again?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Copious.

[Ocho]

Ooh. Oh, well, you been Ilthusaurus, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think the thing is people have a hard time and I get it, it's hard. Cause we don't like to be wrong. And if we wrong, we damn sure don't want to admit that we wrong. But I think it shows growth. I think it shows maturity that when we're wrong and we're mad or we're woman enough to say that I was wrong, that wish we could have done something differently, right? Whatever. Whatever the reasons were, I was wrong and you have to be man or woman enough to say that I was wrong in order for you to sincerely. In order for you to have growth. Now if he didn't want to. I think we know the answer, Chad. I think we know the answer why he didn't want to answer that. Was it a mistake not to start him because he. I would like to think their record would be better than what it was now. It could be chat. I mean now we're sitting here saying they could have won probably two more games given that Shador. Maybe they don't win no more games. Maybe they have the exact identical record. We'll never know. But it's hard to get somebody to admit when they wrong. And we see in real time what's actually happening. And we see. And a whole lot of guys think about it. He's got probably the, I think the fifth, the fourth or the fifth most passing yards by rookie quarterback that wasn't taken in the first round.

[Ocho]

That's crazy. That's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So it's, it's. I'm glad he's getting an opportunity to start the teams that he's up. The, The Bears, the 9 4. They're playing in Chicago the next game, the Bills 9 and 4 playoff team. Steelers at home, the division leader. And then they finish on the road at your Ford, at your Bengals, which could have some playoff implications for the Bengals. Not for. Obviously Cleveland's not going anywhere. It also all depends all depends on what would they try to do. Ocho, did they start like this because they're trying to get draft. They're trying to get position for the draft. What, what, what, what would they. What were they hoping. Cause if you know, Joe Flacco is what Joe Flacco is, you know, now, I mean the guy's 40 plus years old. You know what he is, he's streaky, he'll win you a game or two and, but he's always been, and always has been, always will be a turnover machine. That's what he is. Yeah.

[Ocho]

I, I, I, I have no idea. Your guess is as good as mine, but we've been trying to figure out what the Browns have been doing with their organization for a very long time. Not just this year, but the past 30 some years, especially at the quarterback position. They haven't got it right in a very long time. And still to this day, still, to this day, they still haven't answered that question. And the one that looks like it might be promising, they still have an issue with that. So it looks like what they're trying to do based on some of the things that we've seen, some of the things that we've heard come out of, out of that, out of that locker room or that organization in general, they still don't think the person that is at the helm right now is the answer. They don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I mean, and I, I really hate to feel this way, but a part of me like, yeah, we gonna let him start the rest of the season. Oh, Bears, Bills, Steelers, Bengals. If I was to do, I'm like, nah, I'm good. I already showed y' all what I can do. Put Dylan in there.

[Ocho]

Nah, you know, matter of fact, nah. I want him to play against the Bears. I want him to play against the Bills. I want him to play against the Steelers. Cause I want him to show that I'm a competent quarterback at the highest level as a rookie if given the right amount of time to prepare.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Ocho]

That's what I want. I want him, I want him to have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no, no, no, Ocho. But this is not a mistake. They picked these games today. Why couldn't you name his ass to start three games ago? Why was it week to week? Because every, you know what? Every time he don't want to answer a question, he always say, well, I don't want to get into that. Right? I don't want to get into that. Cause they ask you, they ask him before, which is to do a go to start. Well, I don't want to get into that. Let's look at the film and all that, bro. You know, Wait, wait, wait.

[Ocho]

No, no, no. That's not true. That's not true. Because after the first game and they asked him, is he going to start the next game, he wanted to see if he could do it again. What is he going to look like again? If he looked bad, what's the first thing you think Stefanski was going to do? He's going to put Dylan Gabriel back in there. That's why he had to. All right, I don't want to answer that right now. I don't know. But Shador gave you no choice, man. Could you imagine after you played this game, after you played this last game, in the game before that, if he was the bench you took? Ben Shadow. You talk about losing your locker room at that. Hey, listen, at that point, I guarantee you one of the veterans would have spoke out. I guarantee you one of the veterans would've spoke out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They probably already speak it out.

[Ocho]

I mean, it ain't get out in the public yet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no. I mean, you know, and I think the thing is, look, the last thing that you want to do, because Dylan is still your teammate, it's not his fault. You can never blame a player who for an organization or a coach's decision. I can't, Ocho. I can't get mad at you because they put his ass in there. I can't get mad at. I can't get mad at him because this organization drafted him before me. That got nothing to do with me. I wish him the best. I'm going to support him as best I possibly can. I couldn't get mad at the guys they took before me. It wasn't their fault. But I tell you, in a couple of years, you're going to wish you like, damn, I'm glad we took this guy in the seventh round. We probably should have taken him early.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I. I'd never begrudged a guy because they didn't draft themselves. Dylan Gabriel didn't draft himself. All. I'm happy now, and for me, I'm glad they came to this conclusion.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did it take longer than I think it should have? Yes. I think most people believe that it took longer than what it should have, but at the end of the day, they got it right.

[Ocho]

I wouldn't say it took longer than it should have. Dylan Gabriel was the third round pick on. Dylan Gabriel was their third round pick and he was the successor to Joe Flacco. So when Joe Flacco moved on, automatically, Dylan Gabriel goes into the lineup and it's time to see what he can do. It didn't go well. It didn't go well. Now Shador's time to see what they can do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Ocho]

That's all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he's only gonna get better. I mean, he gonna have some growing pains. He's not gonna. I don't. I don't see him throwing for 364 and four, having four touchdowns every game. But I tell you what, all I need to see is improvement. All I need to see. And I saw some stuff late in the ball game that I saw the mistakes that he made earlier that he self corrected. That's when you know a guy gets it. When you can self correct on the fly, Ocho. Oh, you get it? Yeah. Oh, he. He definitely gets it all.

[Ocho]

All we want to see. I mean, excuse me, in that organization as a head coach, as a gm, as teammates, not only improving week to week, but giving us a chance. Give. Giving us a chance so we can compete week in and week out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's all you want and that's all you.

[Ocho]

That's all you can ask for. Consistency. How consistent can you be offensively to give us a chance? That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, so. So Shadora's your ball. Pick it up and run with it, bro. Do what you do. You got four, you got the four. You got four games. These last four games is about. You know what? We got our guy. We got our guy. Let's go in the draft and get an offensive lineman, a receiver, a linebacker or. No, I like that's linebacker. That rookie linebacker, number 49. He hail. Maybe get somebody to go opposite of a get. I don't know. But Shador's job is to show them they don't need a quarterback. Yeah, that's his job.

[Ocho]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then build a team how they best. I don't know if we should trust them to build a team, but I just think the thing is, Ocho, is that we just show them. Show them that you got the right guy. Because he said it. I want to show them what I'm what they've been looking for. I'm what they've been searching. They've turned over a lot of stones. And you know, sometimes, Ocho, you gotta kiss a lot of dragons to find your princess.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So they had 35. They had damn near as many. Many quarterbacks as we've had u. S. Presidents. Yeah, but. But Shador says it stops with me. It stops with me. No more. You're gonna have. You're gonna have peace and prosperity for the next decade.

[Ocho]

I like it. I like it. Hey, matter of fact, yeah. Hey, I'm wondering if the chat. The chat heard about that too. You heard about. Damn. I mean, this is sad for me. Mr. Cup? You heard about Mr. Cup?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Ocho]

Yeah, man. His wife left him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, lord, here we go.

[Ocho]

Yeah, now he's a solo Cup.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I knew it was something. I knew it was something.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, the Indianapolis coast are in desperate need of a quarterback. So they've gone to a desperate measure to find one. With starter Daniel Jones out for the rest of the season due to Achilles and backup Riley Leonard nursing a right knee injury that clouds his status for Sunday game at the Sea. At at the Seahawks, the Colts call Philip Rivers to potentially save their season. The Colts are flying Rivers to Indianapolis for a workout Tuesday and the pot with the possibility of signing the eight time Pro Bowler. Rivers, who's 44 and became a grandfather in recent years, has not played in the NFL since 2020. However, the Colts are sitting at 8 and 5 in the thick of an AFC playoff race. They peaked Rivers interest. They peaked River's interest enough to him to contemplate potentially coming out of retirement. All up. He's like one of the nominees with whole right?

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow. If Rivers were to join the Colts after active rosters, it presents a very unique scenario regarding his potential induction to the Pro Football hall of Fame. Rivers is one of the 26 modern era players who are semifinalists for the 2026 class. Yet the moment he joins an active roster, his eligibility clocks. It resets, doesn't it? Yeah. And he would have to wait an additional five years.

[Ocho]

Mm. I mean listen, I, I, I like it, I like it for him. I like the opportunity for him. Even though he's 44. Unk as a quarterback. I think the Eagles are still in a good, in a good position to, to, to make the playoffs. You need a quarterback. Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You mean the Colts? Who? Did I say Eagles.

[Ocho]

Oh my Bad. The Colts are in a good position to still make the playoffs. We need someone, a quarterback that's a veteran and give us a veteran presence that can throw the ball, that can command the offense, be a leader and keep us afloat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Keep us afloat. Oh, so, but why didn't he stay? They wanted him to come back. So why did he leave if he still had interest?

[Ocho]

He wanted to go back. Well, maybe he didn't have interest. Maybe now after four years, he want to come back and play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

After five years.

[Ocho]

Okay, five.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, that's him.

[Ocho]

Hey, he rested up. Shoulders good in motion. Everything good. Body's healed up a little bit, man. Man, he might come back and go crazy out there, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he not.

[Ocho]

You don't think so?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. I mean, can he throw the ball? Sure.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But the thing is, he has no mobility. Yeah, no, no, he has zero mobility. Dan has even less mobility now. He really never had any mobility. So imagine him at 44. Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Hey, he.

[Ocho]

He can see. Can sling that rock, even though he got a funny. Got a. A funny throwing motion.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he's gonna let it.

[Ocho]

He's gonna let it rip.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, what, 60, 000 yards, 400 plus what? 420 something touchdowns.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he was a hell of a player. He was.

[Ocho]

I mean, listen, I disappointed they didn't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Win more than what they won.

[Ocho]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You figure they got Gates in the hall of Fame. Lt's in the hall of Fame. He's on the ballot for the hall of Fame. I mean, one year they finished number one, offense and defense, and didn't even make the playoffs. Go figure.

[Ocho]

Damn. I mean, Cat was right there. Oh, Cam was right there, too. Cam ain't nowhere near 44.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't want to play no football. Camden told y' all he didn't want to play no football. Let that sink in. So what that tell you? Anthony Richardson let that sink in. Now, a man that got 10 kids, got grandkids, that's been retired from the NFL for five years, you sitting on that bench. They took you with the third overall pick three years ago. What does that say about you?

[Ocho]

Yeah, he's a liar.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, is he? Oh, that's right. He had his shoulder. His shoulder again. My bad, bro. Huh? He broke his orbital. Yeah. When? Oh, that band. Was it the band? Yes.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn. The Colts have some terrible ass luck. They just got Ward back, remember? Oo he collided on the field? Yeah. He just got back. They gave two number one picks for sauce. Sauce out with a calf injury. They paid all this. They, they, they. Daniel Jones. And now he hurt.

[Ocho]

He got Achilles.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they went, Ocho, they went all in. All in with sauce. Gave up two number ones for him.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

15 million for Daniel Jones. And it seemed like it was money well spent. It's over. I don't. I don't think Philip Rivers is the answer. I don't.

[Ocho]

Well, you got uncle. You got to give him a chance first.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got a man, 44.

[Ocho]

Hey, you gotta give him a chance. Him at 44 might be better than some of the product we seeing lately. Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm surprised, Ocho. I fractured my orbital and I was out three weeks.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The season ended, but they had cleared me to play. What's his name? Anthony Richardson. Fractured his orbital and gone for like two months.

[Ocho]

You know, them people don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know.

[Ocho]

You already know what to get. You know what the play is with that. No, they don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, I would want him. I would actually, Ocho, I would want him practicing because I want him to see it in real time. I don't want him away. And he might still be there, but I. Ocho, I honestly, you know, you can't get. Ocho. You need to be in uniform, you need to be practicing. Take the months to recover.

[Ocho]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I don't like this. Because I missed three weeks. I fractured my orbital, Ocho. It's painful, but I was cleared after three weeks to come back and play. Now the season ended. The season ended. They just told me I would need to wear a shield because, Shannon, you can't afford to get hit in the eye again.

[Ocho]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, clearly. But I think he wears a shield anyway.

[Ocho]

Yeah, he's not touching. He's not touching the field.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Regardless, you think it's over for him in Indy? Yeah.

[Ocho]

Really? The way Daniel Jones has been playing. Really?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on. Okay, but Daniel Jones hurt now. He got Achilles and he.

[Ocho]

And he's the third string quarterback. He's not the second string quarterback. Which is why they're bringing it. Which is why they're bringing in Philip Rivers. Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I said that would have been the perfect opportunity for Anthony Richardson to play.

[Ocho]

They gave him the opportunities already.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So he done well.

[Ocho]

It's not me. I'm not part of the organization. I'm just saying. I mean, the writing is on the wall.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Riley Leonard is from the hometown that Philip Rivers is from. Philip Rivers is his mentor. So he's been working with him. He worked with him in the off season.

[Ocho]

Right. And that's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Shane Stichen was asked About AR today and said he's not sure if Anthony Richardson would be able to return before the season's over. Says right now he's not ready. I told you, Ocho.

[Ocho]

Well, you the one just said he was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No damn season long injury.

[Ocho]

You just, you just. See, I just told you that. Huh? I just said that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho. Oh, When did he get hurt?

[Ocho]

It ain't even about getting hurt. He's saying he's not ready. I don't think he talked about the injury.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know he's not Ocho, but think about that. Let that figure for a second. Ocho, you a backup receiver. You a backup receiver. You 24 years old and they call. They call a lamp. Is Gerald to come out of retirement. You right there on the roster.

[Ocho]

He had two years. He had two years.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on, Ocho. The man got hurt on October 12th, so eight, basically eight weeks ago.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you sport tracks. You look at guys that are on the current NFL practice squad. IR Trevor Simeon is Tennessee. Who's been a starter? Sam Hartman, Cole McCoy, Kyle McCord. That, I mean that, I mean, Brett Ripping is Indiana. He was a starter in Denver. CJ Beathard, Sam Ellinger, Will Greer is in Dallas. Bailey Zapp. Damn. Yeah. When you have, you have an orbital. Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. Your vision is gonna be temporarily flared. I had it. Absolutely. I was seeing triple.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, but you already know what the play is with that man, Anthony. I mean, they gave him opportunity after opportunity after opportunity. He didn't do anything with him. And I think they just don't see. Don't see a situation where giving him another opportunity to prove himself would work. There's a reason why they signed Danny Dimes that one year, that fourth.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, we understood that.

[Ocho]

But at that point, you know that ship is sale.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Work.

[Sophie Cunningham]

This week he attended his first Colts.

[Ocho]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He saw his first Colts game. So he hadn't been at practice. The doctors advised him to stay at home and rest. I don't know. Every. Every injury is different. So I shouldn't. Look, I'm just telling you. I had the injury three weeks. I was cleared. They just told me. And the whole next year, Ocho, I wore a shield, right. Cause I could ill afford. It's kind of like Anthony Davis gotta wear goggles. Because the doctor says if you get poked in the eye one more time, you might end up losing vision in that eye. Same thing with Kareem. So I get it. I get it. Oh, chose earlier. I gave you good news. Now you never bad.

[Ocho]

Now hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me get comfortable. Damn. Okay, go ahead.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Bengals will be without defensive end Trey Hendrickson for the rest of the season. He's expected to undergo core muscle surgery. He suffered the injured back in Week 6, then it hasn't played since Week 8 after he sustained a hip injury. There was hope he would return at some point this season, but that won't be the case.

[Ocho]

Well, what's the bad news?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He ain't coming back.

[Ocho]

Well, but. But hell, he ain't been there the past few weeks anyway.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay. My bad. I thought you was gonna miss him.

[Ocho]

I mean. I mean, hell, I mean, you know, he been hurt.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh. So that core muscle, probably that sports.

[Ocho]

Hernia surgery from lifting that probably living too damn heavy. That's what I. I need. See, man, that's why I need to be the dog. All these injuries, man, it just. They.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Joe, that. Man, that man is a defensive lineman. He can't be eating no little vittles. He can't be no vegetarian eating that stuff. They root his ass up out of there.

[Ocho]

Nah, that. That ain't what I'm talking about, man. Like, they. Okay, if you're not gonna listen to me as a nutritionist, at least listen to me as a strength and conditioning coach. Hell, at least. Like, come on, man, you still. Y' all be laughing and making fun of me, Dog, I played all them years with no injuries, man. People like. It's not registering, man. And they keep. They keep listening to all these damn specialists and all these professionals, but for some reason, everybody keep getting hurt. Non contact injuries. They pulling this. They tearing that like. Come on, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You just fortunate.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey. Listen. Ain't nothing fortunate. Winning the lottery is fortunate. What I was able to do, that ain't number. God.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. And you didn't get hurt.

[Ocho]

That's ridiculous. I can't, man. I done ran out of school.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You look at you play this game of football. It's hard. You're very fortunate. You're one of the few that played this game and didn't really have any injuries. And you walked off the field as healthy as you walked on it.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Cause I was the one delivering the punishment.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Ocho]

I was delivering the punishment. I was the savage. I was that boy. I was that boy out there, man. I know I was Kiki and Haha and entertaining, but, man, I was an animal out there, man. Okay, I had them boys scared, man. Man, I ain't gonna say none. I ain't gonna say none.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho doesn't come as a surprise because I told you this was going to happen. The Tennessee Titans sideline reporter Will Bowling has been removed from the team's charter flights. Going forward, Bowling shared something that he witnessed on the plane ride of a trip home from Cleveland after week 14. Bowling addressed the situation during his daily radio show and apologize for relaying the story and that has now understands he should have been considered off the record. Yes, everything that you, if they're not, if they're not speaking directly to you is off the record. Yeah, you don't get to go, you don't get to go on the team playing. Do you know how many reporters have seen things on the team fight plane? Well, who's late or who's. Maybe there's been a fight. Maybe there've been some, some, some, some things that shouldn't have been going on because back then we used to have them, them little portable DVDs and guys be watching things they shouldn't be watching.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey guys be drinking and, and things of that nature. You keep your mouth shut. Yeah, he got to learn the hard way. Now you got to fly, find your all way to the city and guys gonna be like man, we can't trust old boy. Cu oh boy, go. Hey. They gonna be like, yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey listen for one, you give an opportunity to have access to be around to be on those charter flights and you can't just take everything you see and try to use it to your advantage and make it a story. Now, you know, outside the window looking, peeking through the blinds.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Now I'm not even sure whether, I mean for years going forward were they probably. Will they probably not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He probably won't be allowed on. He probably will not be allowed back on the plane.

[Ocho]

Now you. Now you done messed up. Yeah, you done messed up. You done messed up. A good opportunity just to have a story.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Everything. Oh, I give you a prime example. I. I remember Peyton Manning's first year. Was his first year. Yeah. First year in Denver.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We're doing a story, and I watch him practice.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He hadn't had this all year. He's throwing with a glove.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Oh, it was cold, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But remember he had that nerve damage, but prior to that, he'd been throwing bare handed.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I see him, he's practicing with a glove. I see all these gloves in his locker. It would have been nothing for me to take a pair. He got 20 of them in his locker.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Put him in my bag and says, guys, this is what Peyton man is going to be throwing the football with today. Been a great story. Shannon breaks news. Peyton Manning, and sure enough, he comes out there throwing like, oh, but nah, bro, everything ain't meant. Ain't meant to be said. Yeah, yeah, everything. Plus, that is my team. Until they trust me, I got free reign. Don't you. I go anywhere I want to. I know the code. I punch the code. Hey, they don't let me in. I punch the code and go in.

[Ocho]

Right, right, right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I go where I want to go. I go up. I go to Mr. Bolan's office. I go walking around, I'm in. Coaches. I go to John Fox. I go to John. I go everywhere I see.

[Ocho]

So. So we the same with the access you have in Denver is the same way I am down there in Cincinnati. Yeah. And the funny thing about it, you know, I think, why we have that access the way you do, and for me, it's always. Arms are always open and welcome because I don't take advantage of it. I only go there maybe twice a year. Maybe twice a year, you know, that's it. And I think if knowing the access that I do have and the love that they do show in that stadium, where I can go from top to bottom and I can go anywhere I want, anywhere, if I did it all the goddamn time, they'd be like, all right, now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you abuse me.

[Ocho]

Come on, now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me take that back on Cho. I used to be able to do that. I ain't got that. I don't have that access anymore now.

[Ocho]

Oh, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know. I don't go back. They invite me back for alumni things and the Bron, you know, the super bowl teams and stuff like that. When guys get to go to the ring of. Go to the ring of honor. I haven't been back. I have a great relationship. I met the Waltons. I met the Pinners. I met all of them. They were great to me.

[Ocho]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Had a great conversation. But I don't know them like I knew Mr. Bolan. I would like to get to know them. You know, maybe I take some time and I go back and. And, you know, sit down and have a conversation with them.

[Ocho]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I'm like you, Ocho. I'm never going to wear out my welcome. Even though I had the access that I had, I didn't go back and take advantage of it. You know, I would go back when they invited me, but when it came time for the super bowl, you damn best believe. Hey.

[Ocho]

Yeah, you was there. Yeah. So, hey, listen. Hey, you know, I'm excited. You know, I'm excited. So, obviously, most of the time, I was doing one a year. Well, since. Since I retired. One game a year. I always made it. Made it out to one game a year. This will be the first year since I retired. And what was that? I mean, just say left there. Since I left.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Where?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm. Where?

[Ocho]

I'm going to a second game, right? I'm going to a second game. Obviously, I'm not counting the Ravens game. I'm not counting the Ravens game, you know, Thursday night on Thanksgiving.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Ocho]

But this Sunday, I'm going back. I'm going back for the Ravens game. And I mean, it's just. Just what? What The. The warmth and the welcome and the grace that they've shown me when I am no longer any value to you, I'm no longer any value to you. And they still treat me that. That whether it be the fans, whether it be ownership, Zach Taylor, whether it be the players with open arms, it's like, I'm. I'm. And the fact that they still treat you like that when you're no longer of any value.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Ocho]

I'm not on the payroll.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ocho]

I'm not on the payroll. I've been waiting there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think the fan. I think the fans appreciate that. Fans. Fans. Know who. Guys that really cared, that played their ass off, that gave everything they possibly had, left nothing on the field. And when they left, they're like, you know what? We got everything Shannon Sharp had. We ain't never had to worry about 84 because we know a fold was going to give it to us.

[Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It became difficult, Ocho, because I worked. I worked at. I worked at CBS for a decade, for so how am I going to get. I'm in New York. How am I gonna get back? I went back when they put me into the Ring of fame in 2009. I went back again in 2011 when they put me. I got my. Received my ring for the hall of Fame. But it was hard for me to get back. Cause I'm working. I can't. Hey, you know what? You know, the Broncos really wanted me to come back. Now I can't miss work like that. And then I started working at Fox for Undisputed for seven years. And it was hard. And I went back. I think I went back once. But it's really hard ojo to go back when I gotta watch all these games and I'm at one game and even though, you know they got it on, you know, Mr. B, like, oh, you know, Shannon Sharpie, what game you wanna watch? And I was like, don't Worry about it, Mr. B. So it's really hard. I can't. It's hard for me to talk about something ocho if I don't see it right. I need to see it so I can tell you the intricacies of what actually happened. The design of the play to make up the defense and X, Y and Z. So that's a real. That's really the main reason I don't really attend events when other events are going on. Because I need to be able to tell you what actually happened.

[Ocho]

I like. And speaking of being able to tell you what actually is going to happen, I'm gonna tell you your Ravens gonna lose again.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ah, there you go.

[Ocho]

I'm just. I'm just saying every game I'm in attendance to. You do understand I went to the Thursday night game, Joe Burrow's first game back. You see what happened? You see what happened, right? And this. I got another. I got your Ravens. I got your. I got your boy. You know, you Ravens fan. I got butter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not.

[Ocho]

I'm not sure if you've seen some of the clips that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That butter makes some time I haven't seen.

[Ocho]

Listen, Butter stay away in Seattle. I done got butter a ticket, right? Yeah, I didn't got butter ticket. I'm talking about. He a huge Ravens fan. He fly in tomorrow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Ocho]

He flying. Yeah, he flying to Cincinnati tomorrow. I'm meet him out there Friday evening and I'm allow him to see greatness in person.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Ocho]

I want him to see greatness in person. I want him to be able to. I want him to be. Because he streams and increase content I want his content to be authentic and organic.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I want.

[Ocho]

Right there. I want him right there front and center, you know, watching the Ravens lose, you know, and I want him to cry. I want him to cry and so we can see. I don't, you know, you know one thing about it. It's very hard for me to talk about people. It's very difficult for me. I can be, I can be critical. I can critique players, but I want to see 77 in person. I want him to see 77 in person and to see why Lamar is going to be frustrated, why he's going to get sacked, why he's going to be running for his life. And the Bengals are coming away with another win and one step closer to win in the AFC North. That hasn't gone in our favor all season long.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but for this gentleman, Ocho, I, I don't know. He's gotta be young because no veteran reporter would ever do something like this.

[Ocho]

You think, you think he's young?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's gotta be young. I mean, I'm not saying he's, I'm not maybe in age wise, but it'd be interesting to know how long he's been in this capacity doing this job. That's understood. Oh, so we got, we got women on the plane. I mean, we used to have women reporters. Linda Bruin, rest her soul. Lynn was great. She was great. She would always come to me. I was like, lynn, do you not have. She's like, michelle, you're gonna give it to me straight. I know, but somebody else might give it to you straight too. You don't want to get it from them. But she was, she was always, she was always great. And we were always respectful. And I made sure guys were respectful of her. You said especially women. Sage Steele, her first job was with the rape, you know, as a reporter. Was with the rape.

[Ocho]

Right, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And all that, that, you know, stuff that, you know, she's obviously, she's attractive. No, boy, we're not gonna do that. That lady finna do her job and we're gonna allow her to do her job and we're going to be professional. Yeah, that's what we gonna do. She'll tell you. Ask her. She'll tell you. No, we're gonna be professional. We, we. That's not the way we do things.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But on the plane, Ocho, you like, look, we did, we gamble, we played card for money. And then, you know, obviously they got to go to the bathroom. Ocho, they couldn't go to first class because that's where the coaches were, so they had to come by. We move out the way, and Mike Just say, 84. Can we not gamble on the plane? You know, hey, y', all, get to the room. Have at it. You play your car, you know, play cards, roll your dice. But can we not. Okay, done. Now, the only thing that I really got. I don't really get mad at mad. Animals get mad. Humans get upset. I don't really get upset because Mike was like. Mike was like, obviously he let the vets handle the stuff, and we did a great job. I think the committee. The commute. The committee that was in charge. I thought we did a very good job of dealing with stuff before it got big enough to be that Mike would have to intervene.

[Ocho]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mike said it was brought to his attention, and I know who told him. The flight attendants did. Oh, so you remember the. The portable DV chat. I know y' all remember them portable DVDs.

[Ocho]

Yeah, the big. It was kind of big. A little bit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. They were still a little thick at the bottom. Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

And they flip up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey, what y' all were watching? What y' all were watching?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They know y'.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

First of all, I had one, but, man, y' all know my personality. I'm gonna be joaning on the plane. I'm gonna be talking about what you wore, what you wore on the play and how that's good and terrible, and I'm gonna tear your ass up once we get on the second team. But so you make sure you get. Nah, nah, man. Everybody want to go on bus one. If they got on some bull drive, they want to go on bus one because that's the bus Mike on. Yeah, they don't want no smoke. Yeah, yeah. They know we're not going. We can't. We can't. Get. Get your ass on bus, too, man. Sean, what bus you on? Get no bus, too. Mike asked it. Look, guys, it's been brought. Been brought to my attention, okay? You guys are watching stuff that you shouldn't be watching.

[Ocho]

Like what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Ocho]

They can't watch on, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Them jokers be watching Spankshire in the hotel. We call it Spankshank Vision. Yeah.

[Ocho]

What the hell is that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chad, tell Ocho. What?

[Ocho]

Oh, ain't nobody. Oh, hey, Spankshire Vision. What the heck that? Never heard of that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's where you watch them more dirty movies.

[Ocho]

Oh, you talking about, like, Debbie Does Dallas?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

Oh, okay, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, but Ocho, the flight attendants come in giving you food and walking up and down as you do. Want anything to drink? They walk about pushing the car. They see that.

[Ocho]

Oh, okay, okay, okay. See, they got their eyes in the wrong place. They need to mind their business.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look here. You know, you walking up and down. It's just like you walking up and down. You got go to the bathroom, and somebody. Somebody filling out their thing. You what? You gonna see it. It's just the way it is. Ain't nobody walking straight ahead. You're not looking to your left. You're not looking to your right. You walking straight ahead.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Mike said, look, guys, I don't try to tell you guys what to do. You grown men. But let's not do this.

[Ocho]

Yeah, you right. You right. You right. You right. You right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Hey, that.

[Ocho]

That ain't. Boy, watching that thing on that plane. I'm coming back home, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, I slammed that thing. I slammed somebody. I think I broke it. I said, see? Cause here's the thing. Ok. Well, I look at it. You know how coaching is. Yeah. Somebody jump off sides, we all gotta run. I ain't even do nothing. As a matter of fact, I wasn't even in.

[Ocho]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So we gotta run. So if. If that gets out again, what Mike gonna do? Mike gonna punish everybody, right? Nah. You not fitting to mess it up because you can't control your behavior. Now, that's not gonna happen. So that's where. You know, man. Bro, the man told you. I mean, think about it. We get what we want. We get free. We get free. We get free movies. Everybody got a free movie. Whatever you want to watch, I want. I mean, me and Burns, I watch Player Club. I bet y' all watch players club 25, 30 times.

[Ocho]

Hey, Bernie. Matt to your fan, but Bernie Mac was a fool in that, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just. I just didn't want guys to mess it up. One person or two people to mess it up for 50. So, you know, sometimes you have to, like, bro, come on now. You have to, you know, but on the plane, bro, you can't talk about. You can't as a reporter.

[Ocho]

Yeah, you right. You right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Even me now, knowing what I know. I know. Look, I make calls here and there. I just let it go. I just let it go, Ocho. I don't say nothing. I know a lot of things that have transpired, be it NBA, be it NFL. That ain't what I do. I just let people think I'd just be talking out my.

[Ocho]

You know, and don't. And don't know what you talking about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But guess who know what I'M talking about the people that I'm talking about.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho. Head coach Brian Schottenheimer says he had a talk with George Pickens about the effort following the Lions. Lions game. In the now deleted IG Post about Richard Sherman. Shoddy. That's what they call it. Said Pickens owned it, telling him, hey, Shoddy, I didn't play my best game. He made it clear is he's not worried about all that picket's efforts moving forward, saying, unfortunately, none of us played our best game. That's real. But I don't worry about George and his love for football and playing this game. So pick the right thing to do. If your coach talked to you about your effort, apologize to Richard Sherman.

[Ocho]

Well, that ain't coming.

[Rob Gronkowski]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All he did.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He didn't say you was a bad person. He. He didn't say. All he said was that effort ain't good enough. Especially. Especially double. Especially once CD leaves. Leaves the game.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Your coach. If it was that, if it wasn't that big of a deal, why would your head coach have a conversation about your effort? It's okay. Sometimes. Oo. We say it all the time here. When emotion is high, logic is low.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man. And look, Ocho, I don't play my best game, and you point that out, man, f You. I get it. I get it. I get it. I totally understand. And I don't want people to think I don't understand, because I do. And I don't want you to think Shannon Sharp was ever perfect in any game because I wasn't. I had drops. I had missed assignments, but my job was not my. I always prided myself in Shannon. Don't make that mistake again. You do what you did wrong. But if somebody called me out for something that I did, I can't be wrong. I can't be wrong that the coach called me out about Ms. Block. I missed the block.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I didn't get my head across. I took terrible angle. I took terrible steps. Why do I get mad at somebody for pointing out what you know you did wrong? Hey, all you got to do. Hey, sure, man. I'm pro. I'm sorry, bro.

[Ocho]

Yeah, well, yeah. He ain't apologizing to Sherm, but I know his. I can tell you that right now. That's not coming. But on the field, it's gonna change. It's gonna change. You know, let's see. He's been good the past 13, 14 weeks. He had, you know, little mineral lapse, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Little lackadaisical but, hey, damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, but see, what y' all feel to realize, y' all say no. He's playing for a contract when you show. So, Elcho. And so let me ask you a question, and you can speak to this. Cause you a receiver. Yeah, that kind of. With his history, based on what happened in Pittsburgh, now he comes here and have a game. So. So how your agent go in there and says, Pickens is going to be on time, Pickers is going to be on time for meeting. He's going to be on prime for practice. He's going to be where it's supposed to be, and he's going to give you good effort. How you sell that?

[Ocho]

You say. You say how you sell it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

What week we in?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We in week this, 14.

[Ocho]

Well, I use the other 12 weeks to sell it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What about. What about the other four years? So you see, you got 13 weeks. I got three years in a game.

[Ocho]

You. If we. We gonna. We gonna use what happened in Pittsburgh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are we gonna use what we did the first 13. Are we gonna use what we did the first 12 weeks?

[Ocho]

I mean, when it's time to get paid, they're gonna use you. What they gonna. You gotta update your resume.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So it's based on recently, but what. Have I seen more of him giving me that effort the first 12 weeks or the effort that I saw on Thursday?

[Ocho]

Okay, you right. You right. Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, hey, and you know how they go to Ocho, you know how they gonna do it now, right? All this stuff in his contract, all these clauses where they can claw back money. You. I'm just telling you how they do it.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah, I know, I know. Hey, you know the game they play. You know, you know the game they play. But, you know, you know what? He gonna get his money. But they gonna have a whole lot of clauses in there, though. They gonna have. They're gonna have a lot of clauses.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. And that's. And that's. And that's all I'm saying. I don't. Hey, I don't want you to try to claw back money now. If I'm late for something, if I meet something now, I could potentially void the con. I can avoid the. The guaranteed money or roster bonuses. Hell, no.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can honestly say, Ocho, I don't know about you, but I ain't never had nothing like that in my contract. I didn't have a weight clause in my contract. When people start putting stuff in their contract, what are they trying to tell you? We don't trust you.

[Ocho]

Yeah, basically.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Basically trying to think the reason why they put that. The reason why they put that clause in. In Kyler's contract. What do they have in Zion Williams contract? Oo you think? A weight clause. Why? Cuz they don't trust it.

[Ocho]

They got a weight clause in now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, absolutely. Huh. Yeah. Same thing with Eddie Lacy.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey. Big Eddie.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boy.

[Ocho]

Eddie was big, huh? Well, Eddie was literally playing running back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Literally and figuratively. But. But I'm saying I don't. I know putting my. I get it. They're gonna be certain clauses that they. It's the standard procedure.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

For a contract and we get that. But you ain't fit to put no weight clause. You ain't fit to put no on time clause.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause no. I need all my money. I ain't trying to give you nothing and I'm not trying to. If I do something, it voids it.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's all we saying, Pig. You too good boy. Go get this money. Get it.

[Ocho]

Oh yeah. And this thing I'm talking about. Think I'm thinking about clauses. I ain't had no damn clauses. Shoot, I kept getting all my money back. Yeah, I was. I wasn't tripping.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't telling what somebody told me. You're talking to a guy that. Effed up some money.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Go get them boys. Here next week. Right. Give him hell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And despite the posted Lawrences he's had Ocho even with all that, his 78 catches is a career high. His 1179 yards is a career high. His eight touchdown is a career high. Nobody has ever, ever doubted George Pickens talent. Nobody. It's unquestioned. It's off the charts.

[Ocho]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Off the charts, bro. These last four weeks. And if you guys make the playoffs, let it be the hardest you've ever.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Played.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And go get you a contract that if you. If this is the last contract you get, you can go shut it down. Go back to Georgia or wherever you from and live happily ever after. That's what you do. That's what you do. Pick. Don't mess this opportunity up. Sometimes people get multiple opportunities. Sometimes they don't. Get your money picked.

[Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh? I was like. What? I was like. Why you keep looking at me?

[Ocho]

What happened?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ash put up a poll talking about should she shave? Yes. No. Let it grow.

[Ocho]

What? You shave. What? Okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey.

[Ocho]

Let it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause I know you can't grow one.

[Ocho]

I can grow. I grow mine. Like Rick Ross. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know you will get one of the units.

[Ocho]

Nah, no, I can get. I can get a real. Hey, matter of fact, that's a good idea. Huh? Matter of fact, when we do the live show, I'm get a unit, a nice little beard with a lace. A lace front. Hey, with the waves. I'mma be clean, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All the men are saying, yeah. They talking about make it look old. What you mean? Look, I am. I'm 57. I'm about to be now, you know, black life another at seven months. I be.

[Ocho]

Hey, you. You don't look 57. You. You look like. You about. You look like about 3940. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You look young. No, no, no, no, no.

[Kevin Stefanski]

I. I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't think it's fully gray, like prime now. I don't think it time. I mean, I don't think my. My gonna be like salt and pepper. Yeah.

[Ocho]

You know, black folk, we age gracefully, man, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

You might be 57, but you look 39, 40.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

You good. You good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They say I do a lot of things. Like I'm in my 20s. Let me stop, let me stop. Let me stop. But I'm gonna see. I'm gonna go. I. I'm going to. I'm gonna give it a month. So this is. This is Saturday, Sunday. I didn't say. I didn't. I didn't shave Saturday, Sunday, and I didn't shave today. So this is three days.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I'm gonna see where. I'm gonna see where it's gonna be at on the 5th.

[Ocho]

Okay, listen, if you grow. If you grow yours out, I grow mine out. Man, we, you know, sure. We could look like we from Philly with the, you know, with the beers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I would put that Beijing in mine. I'm gonna get that. I'm gonna put that up in that 57:10.

[Ocho]

Okay. A little Rogaine and have it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And have it, like. Had that thing like big pert and a Rick Ross.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Give me some beard oil. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey, you know, I think I'm gonna do it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

James Harden. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Cause you. You grow yours out, man. I'm gonna grow mine out, man. I'm gonna get. Then I'm gonna give him the lace front with the waves. Nice little.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's gonna be. You got your hair gray?

[Ocho]

Nah, nah, not yet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh.

[Ocho]

You know, I'm young, man. I'm about 23, man. I don't get no gray hair yet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, well, we go. We're gonna find out. But Pick, I mean, had. Pick got a chance for 100 catches, Ocho. Yeah, for 100 catches.

[Ocho]

It's four games left, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

With 22.

[Ocho]

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the way he play, that could be. That could be 1500 yards.

[Ocho]

They ain't gonna be able to deny that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So pick. Get your money, bro. Get your money. You'll be glad you did. The Chiefs could be officially eliminated from the playoff contentions in Week 15, and Travis Kelsey said the situation is a tough reality for the 6 and 7 team to be in. Neither Kelsey nor the Chiefs have missed the playoffs since 2015. During the latest episode of New Heights, Trav said, I feel like I've always had answers in years past, and this year I just can't find them. I keep thinking if I show up to work and put in the work and fix the issue through my practice habit, through perfecting the game plan and my fundamentals is what I've been taught. And to go out there and try to play my ass off for the guys next to me and it's all come together like it's years past and this year it changed. Just not tough. Yeah, stuff.

[Ocho]

It happens.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's coming to an end. Yep. Yeah, he knows it. Everybody knows it. And the thing is, is that, is that when you, you. It happens a lot. Oo you can take the. Joe, when you start to press, you're not playing like you want to play. It's late in the ball game and you want to make every play. You want to take every play to the house. And so in order to do that, you, you gotta like, sometimes you gotta like, do this. You see what I'm saying? You see my eye ain't on the ball, Joe. Yeah. Cause I'm trying to get going. I'm trying to get going. And ball on the ground. And he had a situation. Mahomes put it a little behind him. He dropped that one. He threw another one, what we call a cell rock, and that one popped up in there. It was all on his head. Al Shazir ended up taking it off and picked it. So it is frustrating because, you know, you closer to the the end than the beginning and this might be the end.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Yeah. And it sucks. It sucks for Traverse. I think he came back, you know, contemplating retirement last year, but he didn't want to finish his. His career off that way. He came back this year hoping things would be different. And just as. As a team, it just hasn't gone well at all. And most of the time, one of the things that really hurt and really bothers. Bothers you as a competitor is you put the Work in during the week. You put the same hours, doing the same formula, which you did in the past, and the end result was the Super Bowl. And now you're doing the same thing, and things just aren't going well. The ball's not following your way. The calls you normally get from the refs, they're not going your way this time. You just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's just our reality.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. And that's. And that's the hardest. That's the hardest part, coming to grips with that.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because like I said, my thing was Joe and Ocho, I could go out there, like, there'll be a game, I go get you 130.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Two touchdowns. Next game gonna be 30 yards. Next game could be 40 yards. I couldn't do it back to back. Yeah. When I was in my, like, year. 6, 7, 8, 150, 161, 130, 99 and 2. Tubs couldn't do it anymore. Yeah. I can still have a big game. You go. I think my last year, my last year, second to the last game, I go sell them for 101. Three touchdowns, offensive player of the week. But in between that, it just couldn't. Just couldn't, you know, play. Play who we play. Said we played the Chargers. Always had a good game against the Chargers. So week before the bye week, charges 13, 153, three touchdowns, offensive player of the week. Come out the bye week, get the Ravens nine for a buck 61. You know, I'm cooking. I'm cooking like that guy. I'm cooking like. Yeah, I'm. I'm white hot. You know what I'm saying? You said, oh, I don't touch that. Yeah, I'm like that. I'm killing everybody, man. As you start to get older, it's tough. And you. I'm sore, right. It's taking me longer. Whereas before I could. I could. I could play. I could play on a Sunday. And I felt like my first couple years on your. Like that Sunday. Like that Sunday, Thursday game. Man, that ain't nothing.

[Ocho]

Nothing at all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, nothing. Joe. What you sell it? Year 10, where did the buy week? I'm not looking for the buy, Joe. It's hard to back to back that thing like that, man. It's. It's just. It's just. It is tough on him because we've seen a guy, you can make the case and I can. And I do. I think. You do. I think. Look, I think it's between him and Gronk, but I think when. When you go look at the playoffs and you talk about a guy that has as as many yards, as many touchdowns as Jerry Rice, and we know how we all hold Jerry Rice in very high regard. You look at his numbers in the playoffs, and they're right there. And what he's done in big moments, he's always been, especially in a playoff. Excuse me, in playoff games, Travis, been that. Yeah. And it's hard when you can't be that anymore. Gee, isn't it funny how time just slips on away? Happens to us all. Happens to us all. And. And like, he's saying he used to be able to fix that, Joe. Yeah. He used to go, hey, oh, this is what I did wrong. You know what? Instead of. Instead of trying to rip, I probably should have did arm over. Instead of arm over, I should have ripped.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Instead of any of that, I probably should have collided him, knock him off balance, break away from him. You know what? Maybe I need to drop my hips a little more. Maybe I need to sell it a little more. But after. I mean, after a while, you see a guy in a movie long enough, you already know what type of movie he gonna do.

[Ocho]

That's a good one. It's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's. It's. It's tough. It's tough. It's tough on camera, Joe, because we. I mean, as a competitor, I mean, obviously, you know, the way the season ended for form last year in the super bowl, you know, he couldn't retire like that, so he had to come back. You know what I mean? So. Yes. When do you say or when do you feel like or even think that, man, I should just probably go and give it up. It's hard to do that. It is. Because it's harder for a great player to give it up. Because when you great, that's all, you know? Yeah. And it's hard for you to be anything but great. Yeah. Yeah.

[Ocho]

But one thing about it, Joe, and Unc, that film won't lie to you, that let you know. You might think you great, but the eye in the sky does not lie. And you can look like a shell of yourself. And watching and watching yourself, your body language, your mannerisms, it'll let you know. Yeah, I just ain't got it no more.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Getting out the blocks.

[Ocho]

Hey, I'm always one step behind.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I mean, and then, you know, you looking at guys. I'm looking at guys that starting to guard. They start. Let anybody guard me. I'm like, y' all don't got no more respect than that for me. I'M like, who. Who are you? Where you come from? Oh, oh, I'm offend, Joe. I'm offended. Yeah, I know. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, I'm used to get. Hold on. I'm used to getting your best corner. I get number one on third down. Now they just got some guy. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. I'm used. I'm used to getting double and triple team. I don't even know this dude guarding me. Who is it?

[Odoo Advertiser]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what they got. That's. That's all the respect they got for me.

[Ocho]

Now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all ain't got no. Y' all ain't playing no boxing. One y'.

[Odoo Advertiser]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, y'.

[Ocho]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all ain't playing zone, but got a man traveling me everywhere I go. That's what I used to get, Ocho. Yeah, yeah, they playing zone, but I got a guy going me, and I gotta read it like, hold on, man, why you stop? I said that's a zone. But yeah, you got a guy tailing you. Oh, my goodness. And now they just got some Joe Smo out there. Hey, because that. That's back when you had them batteries in your leg. You ain't got them batteries no more, man. Look here. That's bay start, stop. Hey, that. Hey, the Zara Rod that Henzy that. Ah. Hey, hey, Ocho, you. You drive a stick. You like that stick getting on that clutch too hard. That was me. That's how I was starting to stop it. Hey, run through contact. Oh, hey, I run through contact, man, I start gotten year 13. Year 14. I hit that blinker. Let me get on up out of bounds. Especially if it's cold. Yeah. And you watch guys as they start to get older. Watch how easy they go down.

[Ocho]

Don't nobody want none of that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, Joe, you start looking at. Look at them guys in year 12. You're 13. Watch how quick they pull that turf over the head. You think they jumping in the bed when it's cold? They get that grass. They get that turf up on them.

[Ocho]

Now, hey, listen, that's called a business decision.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely.

[Ocho]

As you get older, you make more and more of them.

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