Club Shay Shay: Best of NFL News Part 1
Episode Theme/Overview
In this lively episode, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe teams up with Chad Johnson (Ochocinco) to break down some of the hottest topics from around the NFL. With the episode billed as “Best of NFL News Part 1,” the duo dives deep into player controversies, the importance and dynamics of team chemistry, Hall of Fame debates (especially around Antonio Brown), offensive system legacies, and more. The discussion is unfiltered, humorous, and often personal, giving listeners inside perspectives from two boys who’ve “been there.”
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Challenge of Player Families on Social Media
[03:02 - 16:47]
- Situation: Dylan Gabriel’s fiancée stirred drama on social media by claiming “everybody in the building wants him to play,” prompting speculation and locker room tension.
- Chad and Shannon’s Take:
- Families and significant others often don't understand the intricacies of NFL rosters and playing time.
- Comments from outside the locker room can quickly become issues within, regardless of intent.
- Chad: “You have to be careful now. Oo, because back then there was no social media that your significant other could go to.” (05:16)
- Shannon: “Once you hit send, it’s a rap.” (05:36)
- Athletes vent in private—wives, fiancées, etc.—but in the social media era, those private frustrations can go worldwide instantly.
- Even if statements are the fiancée’s alone, the public will attribute them to the player and it causes locker room headaches.
- Shannon: “Anything you say that’s related to football is going to be tied back to him, and that’s not fair.” (13:16)
- Example: The difference between public-facing significant others (Taylor Swift, Sierra) vs. low-profile ones (Savannah James, Peyton Manning’s wife).
- Advised young women involved with athletes: Be mindful what you say online—everything circles back.
- Locker room information leaks are always tracked, often traced to a small circle.
Notable Quotes:
- Shannon: “Be mindful of what you say because whether they said it or not, it’s going back to them.” (04:30)
- Chad: “I just wish people understood... it puts Dylan in a bad spot.” (05:44)
- Shannon: “I’m not telling you what I heard. I’m telling you what I know.” (06:47)
- Chad: “You have to move differently... and you have to abide by [different] rules.” (14:27)
2. Shedeur Sanders & Jerry Jeudy: Trust Issues & Chemistry
[21:37 - 34:37]
- Core Issue: Shedeur Sanders openly admits chemistry with Jerry Jeudy “will take some time,” pointing to a need for more trust and connection.
- Shannon’s Take:
- Connection between a new QB and WR takes time, effort, and shared practice—there are always “nuances and rhythms” to learn.
- Shannon: “Once that Wi-Fi get on point, it’s gonna be alright.” (21:55)
- Chad points out: Jeudy’s sideline frustrations are unhelpful, especially given his own history with drops.
- Is Jerry Jeudy a true #1 receiver?
- Shannon argues Jeudy’s exceptional get-open ability makes him a legit “number one.”
- Chad is skeptical, arguing he’s a strong number two at best, noting stats and that teams don’t game-plan to stop him.
- Humorous and heated debate ensues, with both men comparing Jeudy to names like CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, AJ Brown, Nico Collins, Drake London, and more.
- Situational Factors:
- Shannon insists context—quarterback play, offensive system—matters before labeling a receiver.
- Chad: “Jerry Judy leads the NFL in drop percentage... almost 19.6% higher than any other receiver.” (34:00)
Notable Quotes:
- Shannon: “Being able to get open, beat man-to-man and create separation... Jerry Judy can do that.” (27:41)
- Chad: “You can name 20 receivers, 25 receivers better than... He's number one on that team because you got to...but you go 25 deep receivers before you take him.” (28:14)
- Shannon: “90% of the chat can’t cover me.” (34:41)
3. Antonio Brown & The Hall of Fame Debate
[40:27 - 46:10]
- Background: Terrell Suggs claims on a podcast that Antonio Brown is Hall of Fame–worthy but won’t make it first ballot due to off-field issues.
- Chad & Shannon’s Take:
- Both strongly agree Brown has the on-field production—statistically and impact-wise.
- Shannon: “You can’t tell the story [of the NFL] without Antonio...Brown.” (41:51)
- Controversy: The Hall of Fame began shifting criteria, weighing off-field and locker room behavior. This affected TO, who had to wait despite elite numbers.
- Shannon: “Now we’re making it personal... If you don’t conduct yourselves in the manner in which we see fit away from the game of football, now we can chastise you for it.”
- O.J. Simpson’s Hall membership is cited as a precedent—once you’re in, you’re in.
- Presenters have to address a candidate’s off-field baggage, making AB’s induction more difficult despite his greatness.
- Notable Quotes:
- Chad: “If TO is not a first-ballot Hall of Famer...it’s crazy.” (42:57)
- Shannon: “They control everything... You can't even be yourself, you have to be something different.” (43:42)
- Chad: “Is AB a Hall of Famer? Yes. Do I think he's going to have a hard time getting in based on his history... Yes.” (45:35)
4. Offensive System Debate: Shanahan vs. West Coast
[46:10 - 53:13]
- Prompt: Jason Kelce comments that west coast offenses produce more Super Bowl winners than Shanahan/McVay trees.
- Shannon & Chad Analysis:
- Both agree great quarterbacks and supporting casts are more critical than the “system” alone.
- West coast short passing plays (“death by a thousand passes”) comparable to soccer’s Barcelona “Tiki-Taka”—slowly and relentlessly moving the ball, frustrating defenses.
- Chad points out the original west coast didn’t feature elite running backs like Terrell Davis, but now teams exploit RBs like McCaffrey in both run and pass.
- Modern differences: Teams throw more, have more variations; true “West Coast” style running attacks are rare.
- Notable Quotes:
- Shannon: “It all comes down to the person at the helm who has the ball in his hands the most in his decision making.” (47:20)
- Chad: “The true West Coast system ... they really use the short passing game as their run game.” (48:21)
5. Clinton Portis & Running Back Legacies
[53:13 - 56:07]
- Clinton Portis’ Talent vs. Attitude: Both discuss just how good Portis was with Denver (“monster numbers”), but issues with work ethic and dedication.
- Shannon: “Portis should be in the Hall of Fame... 3100 yards and 31 touchdowns in two seasons.” (53:34)
- Portis’ Off-field Discipline:
- Stories of Portis coming to games hung over, not tying his shoes at practice, contributing to Mike Shanahan trading him away despite his talent.
6. Darius Slay Refuses Buffalo Bills Waiver
[57:29 - 62:36]
- Situation: Veteran cornerback Darius Slay declines to report to the Bills after being claimed on waivers, considering retirement, possibly waiting to return to Philadelphia.
- Shannon: “If it was going to be a move, I think he would love to go back to Philly as opposed to Buffalo.” (59:47)
- Chad: The Bills likely claimed him just to prevent strengthening a competitor (like the Eagles).
7. NFL Suites: The True Cost
[63:08 - 68:31]
- Suites Are For The Rich:
- Personal debate and reminiscence on the price and experience of owning NFL suite boxes.
- Costs cited are staggering: a quarter million or more for franchise season suites, multiple millions for Super Bowl suites.
- Shannon jokes about being “part of the Brown family” for his discounts.
- Food is not included in suite fees—prices rise closer to midfield.
Notable Quotes:
- Chad: “The closer you get to midfield, they cost a million dollars. What the hell you talking about?” (63:11)
- Shannon: “I guarantee you...if it was anything like the numbers you said, I would have told my homeboys and family: ‘y’all gotta sit y’all ass in the stands’” (64:27)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “Once you hit send, it’s a rap.” - Shannon Sharpe (05:36)
- “Be mindful of what you say because whether they said it or not, it’s going back to them.” - Shannon Sharpe (04:30)
- “I’m not telling you what I heard. I’m telling you what I know.” - Shannon Sharpe (06:47)
- “Anything you say that’s related to football is going to be tied back to him, and that’s not fair.” - Shannon Sharpe (13:16)
- “Being able to get open, beat man-to-man and create separation... Jerry Judy can do that.” - Shannon Sharpe (27:41)
- “You can name 20 receivers, 25 receivers better than... He's number one on that team because you got to...but you go 25 deep receivers before you take him.” - Chad Johnson (28:14)
- “If TO is not a first-ballot Hall of Famer... it’s crazy.” - Chad Johnson (42:57)
- "They control everything... You can't even be yourself..." - Shannon Sharpe (43:42)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- 03:02 — Social media drama & impact on team/locker room
- 13:16 — Advice for athlete significant others about public comments
- 21:37 — Shedeur Sanders & Jerry Jeudy chemistry/trust (Jeudy #1 debate starts)
- 34:00 — Stats on Jeudy's drops
- 40:27 — Antonio Brown Hall of Fame candidacy controversy
- 46:10 — Jason Kelce on Shanahan vs. West Coast offenses
- 53:13 — Clinton Portis and legendary RB discussions
- 57:29 — Darius Slay waivers, Buffalo/Philly preference
- 63:08 — Real cost of NFL suites
Tone & Style
- Banter, humor, and friendly disagreements are staples—Shannon’s “Unc” wisdom matched with Chad’s sharp, sometimes irreverent takes.
- Candid, insider talk—pulling no punches about what actually happens in NFL locker rooms, boardrooms, and on social media.
- The conversation is loose, unscripted, packed with anecdotes and analogies (including Shannon’s memorable football-to-soccer West Coast offense comparison).
For Listeners Who Missed the Episode
This summary walks through the most significant NFL news as dissected by two former NFL stars who are unafraid to call out issues (on and off the field). From the pitfalls of airing grievances online to the nuances behind Hall of Fame credentials, and from the real economics of luxury suites to the subtle difference between #1 and #2 wideouts, the episode is a candid, informed, and always entertaining look into pro football’s most talked-about headlines.
