← Club Shay Shay
Loading summary
Transcript377 lines
- [00:00]
Lenovo Pro Advertiser
There's no championship league for small business owners, but if there was, you'd be at the top of the standings. Because going pro with Lenovo Pro means you've got the winning formation. One on one advice IT solutions and customized hardware powered by Intel Core Ultra processors help you stay ahead of the competition. Business goes pro with Lenovo Pro Sign up for free at lenovo. Com Pro Lenovo Lenovo.
- [00:31]
Colin Coward
This podcast is sponsored by PayPal. Okay, let's talk holiday shopping. When you want to make the most of your Money, head to PayPal's app before you check out. They give you the flexibility to pay in four no fees, no interest. And this is big. Bigger than the 12 foot snowman on your lawn right now. You can get 5% cash back when you pay later with PayPal. So whether it's the must have merch or for that signed jersey you've been eyeing, PayPal helps you make the most of your money. This hol save this offer in the.
- [01:02]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
PayPal app expires 1231 see paypal.com promoterms subject to approval.
- [01:09]
Lenovo Pro Advertiser
Learn more at paypal.com payin4paypal inc.nmls910457 ever.
- [01:15]
Walmart Express Delivery Announcer
Go to McNachos on game day and realize the cheese is missing? Or the chips? Or both? It happens all the time. But check it Walmart Express Delivery gets what's needed in as fast as one hour. One hour, people. And it's not just food. It's phone chargers, pet supplies, toilet paper. Try it now and get free delivery on a first order with promo code Express. Walmart Express delivery in as fast as 1 hour. Promotion valid for first express delivery. Order $50 men subject to availability restrictions apply.
- [01:47]
Colin Coward
Hi, it's Colin from the Colin Coward Podcast. I've been around long enough to know quality when I see it. Or in this case, when I taste it. Tito's Handmade vodka. Good stuff. No flash, no gimmicks. Smooth, clean tasting. Made the right way. Tito's made in Austin, Texas. Real attention to detail. I like to keep it simple. Tito's Soda one lime. Lot of ice. Refreshing, easy. Summer, winter, spring. Totally versatile. Always works. Listen, baseball season's here. The perfect time to kick back with some Tito's. It's what I pour. You should too. Distilled and bottled by 5th Generation Inc. Austin, Texas. 40% alcohol by volume. Savor responsibly.
- [02:27]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
What's up, everybody?
- [02:29]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Total Wireless is hooking you up with.
- [02:30]
Walmart Express Delivery Announcer
The ultimate fan experience.
- [02:32]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
One lucky winner scores a round trip.
- [02:34]
Walmart Express Delivery Announcer
For two to New York City. Hotel stay for three Nights VIP access to the UFC ceremonial weigh in lower bowl seats to UFC 322, a brand.
- [02:44]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
New Motorola Razor 2025, and $11,000 in spending cash.
- [02:49]
Walmart Express Delivery Announcer
And guys, there's more, so don't miss out.
- [02:52]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Enter at any total wireless store from.
- [02:54]
Walmart Express Delivery Announcer
September 25th to October 26th.
- [03:02]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Our very, very special guest is joining us, Cleveland Browns rookie sensation running back Quin. Sean Judkins joins us. Q, what's going on, bro?
- [03:16]
Walmart Express Delivery Announcer
What's up?
- [03:16]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
What's up?
- [03:17]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
What's up?
- [03:17]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
How you doing?
- [03:18]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Nah, he good. He good now.
- [03:19]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
What's up?
- [03:20]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
You were housing that thing this week. Well, you been housing it since you got back, but you was really house in that thing. You. Hey, house call.
- [03:26]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Seriously.
- [03:27]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
I'm out. I had to.
- [03:30]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yeah. How you. How you feeling? How's your experience so far in the NFL been? Has it been everything you expected it to be as opposed to, you know, the transition from college?
- [03:39]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
Oh, yeah, most definitely. I feel like it's been more so surreal, not only for myself, but for my family to get to experience everything, you know, get to meet a lot of the players. And that whole nine yards, man, just getting the final touchdown, you know, been through, going through so much. A slow start to the beginning of the season. And shoot, just everything taking off when.
- [04:00]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I landed, man, that's what's up. You're from Ohio.
- [04:04]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
I'm from Alabama. I'm from Montgomery.
- [04:06]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Oh, you from. Oh, man, how did let you get out of. How you get out of. How did you get way to Ohio State from Bama Nil? That's the way to keep it.
- [04:21]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
Seriously. Oh, man, I think for myself, just in college, man, I ended up going to Ole Miss for two years. I played there in the sec.
- [04:31]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Had.
- [04:31]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
A lot of success. And then my last year of college for my junior year, I was like, man, I want to go somewhere I can compete for a national championship. So I end up at Ohio State. I felt like that was a great situation, Coach. Day one's a great tight program, a lot of talented players there. So, you know, I was like, you know, there's no better place to go than Ohio State, so I end up there.
- [04:51]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Hey, Q, tell me something. You SEC Freshman of the Year, right?
- [04:56]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
I. I was like, nominee for it or something like that, but yeah, I think I was freshman of. Yeah, I can't even remember.
- [05:04]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
So you left the SEC to go to Ohio State, huh? Yep. Hey, hey, that bag. Different, ain't it, man?
- [05:11]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
For me, it wasn't about that, though, you know, like for many different people. Like in the game, it's about the money, the car. Different for me. It was like in the day, bro. I'm a competitor. I'm trying to go out and, you know, kill it. Like, I'm trying to go out and you know, win games as much as possible. Because at Ole Miss I was putting up 1500 yards. I'm getting 15 touchdowns a year. So I'm like, man, no, I'm doing all, all that. But that's not what fulfills me. That's. That don't make me happy. So that wasn't what I was chasing.
- [05:40]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Okay, you wanted that title.
- [05:41]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Thank you. Hey, Q. Q. Hey, hey. Don't give me that politically.
- [05:46]
Colin Coward
For real though?
- [05:47]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
Not for real.
- [05:48]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Come on. Hey, this your boy. Come on. Don't, don't do it like that.
- [05:52]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
For real.
- [05:52]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Hey, okay, okay, okay. Let me, let you have it. Hey, one thing I want to talk about, I want to talk about the Cleveland Browns and I want, I want to. From the outside looking, I don't think you quite understand. Obviously you, you in position, but me on the outside looking in because there, there's been, there's been controversy at the quarterback position. Do you understand that you are the bail cow, that you are the offense that often goes as you go. Most of the times it's a star player, star quarterback or a star receiver. But you are the nucleus of that offense and as you go, the rest of the team goes. Do you quite understand that just yet?
- [06:33]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
I think just because it's so early on in my career, I quite don't get it yet. But at the same time I understand like the situation like and Coach Stefanski's offense. If you go back to Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt and different guys planning this offense, it's always been able to lean on the run game. And I think that's what's very beneficial about planning this offense. So I think just in my mindset, man, like my mentality, regardless of who we playing that week, what plays we installing, just had a staying determination, bro, to just go out there and like just leave it all out on the field. But knowing the particular like situation, like, yeah, for sure. Knowing that this is a run first offense, I'm already know I'm here.
- [07:22]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Yeah, you're in the west coast system. In the west coast system, that's all. You put your foot in the dirt, you get downhill and then everything comes after that. Because now we're going to boot, we're going to play action. Yeah, because look, I play, I played in this offense now a Lot of it's maybe changed, the wording of garbage has changed. But you go back and look at the Broncos offense with TD and Clinton Portis and Mike Anderson and Reuben Drones, and you look at the way the team run this offense. When you got a running back, when you got a guy, Christian McCaffrey in San Francisco, Kyron Williams with the Rams, you look at Josh Jacobs with the. The packers. When you look when that. When the run game is efficient, this offense is almost impossible.
- [08:02]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
Almost. Almost literally. Because I feel like that's when we're at our best, when we're clicking in the rank game. Like, I feel like as a team, man, we unstoppable, and that's where we continue to get better at and consistently try to go out there on Sundays and put it all together. Because I feel like, like you said, man, that run game is what really helps us.
- [08:25]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
What was your expectations when you. What. What was your goals when you came in? You was dealing what you did. You was dealing with what you was dealing with. That offseason. I think you got uninvited to the. To the draft, but you was going through what you was going through. You was like, okay, this is going to be behind me, and I'm going to have to put what I. What this is. I got to put that behind and I got to go somewhere and I got to perform at an elite level. I got to play like I know I can play. What was your expectations for your. Your rookie season?
- [08:56]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
I think for myself, it was more so a testament to, you know, what I'm doing when nobody was looking, because when I wasn't in the building, you know, like, I didn't have a strength, a strength staff. I didn't have a coach to talk to, to go over plays. I didn't have every resource that I had while I'm here in Cleveland now. So it was like, the amount of dedication that it took for me to give everything I had and try to perfect my crowd when I wasn't around and then come back and, like, it was like it was nothing and try to get on that same page with no training camp.
- [09:32]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
No.
- [09:33]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
No football for what, three months? So not having those things and just training, making sure I'm mentally sharp so when. When I get that call and I go back, I'm ready. I think that was my things that I really harped the most. Also, other than, like, physical activity was. Was really just making sure, you know, like, I'm mentally sharp. Just because you go through so much, man, and a lot of People don't understand. Never know what it's like, you know, especially being an athlete and the thing that we deal with. But yeah, bro, just really. Just making sure I'm mentally there all the way sharp. 100.
- [10:12]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I love that what you said, what you were doing when no one was watching. Because discipline is doing what you should do versus what you want to do.
- [10:19]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
Yes, sir.
- [10:21]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I'm sure you wanted to. Hey, the boys kicking it. They doing their thing. Hey, let me go over here. Let me party. Let me kick it. But the discipline stay true. Because I got bigger issue. You're the first Browns player with three rushing touchdowns in the game since Nick Chubb did it September 18, 2022. You had 84 yards rushing, three touchdowns, and your rookie of the week nominee. When you. When you see things like you've done, doing things that hadn't been done by a Browns player in three years, you're doing, you know, being nominated for rookie of the year, look, we all want validation. We put that kind of time in, we put that kind of work into the off season. And to see you plant a tree, you want it to bear fruit. Yeah, you're bearing fruit. How pleasing. How gratifying, how satisfying is it for, like, okay, everything that I did in the off season, everything that I went through, this is more gratifying. It makes it even more like I knew I was doing the right thing.
- [11:14]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
For me, it more so like, I'm one of those people where it's like, man, I'm just trying to chop wood. I'm just trying to chop wood. You know, what I'm doing is that's cool. But at the same time, like, you know, I got bigger goals. I know how I view myself as a competitor, how good I want to be. So I don't really think about it. But at the same time, when I look up and knowing what I've been through, knowing, like, how I persevered, knowing what, like, different challenges I face, and then you see the light at the end of the tunnel. It motivates me personally to, like, you know, keep going and strive to be better. So I think just that motivation you get from it and the hunger.
- [11:55]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Hey, Q, man, as a rookie in the NFL, bro, living the American dream. Tell me what it's like. Cause when I look back when I was a rookie playing in the NBA, bro, I couldn't sleep, man. I couldn't sleep. I was so geek for the moment. Because I'm coming. Because when I came in the NBA in 01 is when Jordan came back T. Mac Cole, Vince Carter, all them dudes was, you know, they was at the apex. So I couldn't sleep nice before games because I was so heat up for the moment. All right, man, I'm not playing. So what is it like? As a rookie, living the American dream, You probably been, you know, wishing for this moment since you were a kid, and now that you're actually in it, what is it like?
- [12:38]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
Oh, man, I think for me, man, like, just finally being here, this is something you think about your whole life. Like, you work your whole life for this. Like, you worked since you was this big, like, to get to this. To this moment. So it's like you finally hear it. But what I realized was it's like, okay, it's not how fast you can get here, it's how long you can stay.
- [13:02]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
So.
- [13:02]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
So. So my thing is, you know, doing everything in my power to, you know, be able to go out there and do this, have the same amount of success, not only for this year, but before a long time, and keep that same discipline. So that's one thing I did learn. I. Is that, you know, just having so many good vets, too. You got a lot of good vets in the locker room, and you meet a lot of good players around the league to develop a lot of relationships. I think in college is more so very. Compared to NFL. I would say it's kind of individualized, just because guys aren't in locker rooms as long as they are at different organizations in the league. So I think in the league, man, you always have people that you can lean on, get advice from, because, like, coming into this, you know, a lot of stuff moves super fast, so having somebody that you can ask different questions to so you're not just hit by the blind. For real.
- [13:52]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
For real.
- [13:53]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Right. Right.
- [13:54]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Hey, how's the body holding up?
- [13:56]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
Good. I feel. I feel good. You know, I used to get. I got a lot of carriers when I was at Ole Miss. I used to get a lot of carries. And then last year at Ohio State, I think I had, like, maybe 300, 255. So I was used to being the bail cow guy, you know?
- [14:10]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Right.
- [14:11]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
So I feel good, though.
- [14:12]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Okay. How does the quarterback look? He started out, you know. You know, Gabriel gets drafted and Shador comes in. And we know what Shador. We know what that last name brings. You got Joe Flacco, you got Pickett, and they. Okay, we're gonna move on. We go in this direction and now has that, the quarterback. The situation with Gabriel and Shador is he going to get reps? Is he going to start? Is he going to play? Has that impacted the locker room in any way?
- [14:38]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
No, I think with our team, we all so close and we got a lot. We got so many young guys, man. It's like in our locker room, we genuinely. It's almost like you're in college again. It feels like. For real, for real. Like, damn. Like I'm full of young guys, but, man, it's just like the energy there. Regardless of who playing those two guys, they always support each other, man. Like, it was a clip I seen. I like that on the Internet the other day, and it was like them walking down the sideline and just talking, laughing about, I think we had just scored a touchdown or something. But that's who they genuinely are. That's who they truly are. They are competitive, but at the same time, they want what's best for each other. And I don't think it's ever been turmoil or any. Any word said by anybody on our team, like about who's our quarterback. We all 100 support Dylan. I even played him when I was at Ohio State twice. I played him at Oregon once and then I played him again in Pasadena, California at the Rose Bowl. So I got to see him and how he is as a quarterback. He's super talented, bro. He's like super smart. He processes really fast. He's a great player. So I'm excited to see how he develop in his career.
- [15:48]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
That's amazing, man. Q, thanks for stopping by. Thanks for giving some time. Congratulations on your early success. Continue success, stay healthy and, you know, when it's all said and done, at the end of the year, you go over a thousand yards, come back and tell us how.
- [16:02]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
Sir. Appreciate y'.
- [16:03]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
All. Appreciate you, man. Good one.
- [16:06]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
Later, yo.
- [16:07]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Thank you. Hey, tell Denzel Ward he can't stop me.
- [16:11]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
Look, hey, look, I be telling that practice he be getting mad, I'd be like, bro, I've been that corner on your ass, boy.
- [16:16]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I'm 220. I still do it.
- [16:20]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
Yeah, I'm like that.
- [16:21]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I'm gonna hit him, though.
- [16:22]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
I'm gonna let him know.
- [16:24]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I appreciate that, man.
- [16:29]
Lenovo Pro Advertiser
Pro drivers live for race day. But for small business owners, every day is race day. That's why Goat Pro with Lenovo Pro matters one on one advice. IT solutions and customized hardware powered by Intel Core Ultra processors. Keep your business on the right track. Business goes pro with Lenovo Pro. Sign up for free@lenovo.com Pro Lenovo.
- [16:55]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Lenovo.
- [16:59]
WashablesOfSofas.com Advertiser
Tired of spills and stains on your sofa. WashablesOfAs.com has your back featuring the Annabe Collection, the only designer sofa that's machine washable inside and out where designer quality meets budget friendly prices. That's right, sofas start at just $699. Enjoy a no risk experience with pet friendly stain resistant and changeable slipcovers made with performance fabrics. Experience cloud like comfort with high resilience foam that's hypoallergenic and never needs fluffing. The sturdy steel frame ensures longevity and the modular pieces can be rearranged anytime. Check out washablesofas.com and get up to 60% off your Anna Bay sofa backed by a 30 day satisfaction guarantee. If you're not absolutely in love, send it back for a full refund. No return shipping or restocking fees. Every penny back. Upgrade now@washablesofas.com Offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.
- [17:59]
Colin Coward
This podcast is sponsored by PayPal. Okay, let's talk holiday shopping. When you want to make the most of your Money, head to PayPal's app before you check out. They give you the flexibility to pay in four no fees, no interest. And this is big. Bigger than the 12 foot snowman on your lawn right now. You can get 5% cash back when you pay later with PayPal. So whether it's the must have merch or for that signed jersey you've been eyeing, PayPal helps you make the most of your money this holiday. Save this offer in the PayPal app.
- [18:32]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Expires 1231 see paypal.com promoterms subject to approval.
- [18:37]
Lenovo Pro Advertiser
Learn more at paypal.com payin4paypal inc.nmls910457 okay, real talk.
- [18:45]
Walmart Express Delivery Announcer
Ever have one of those need it right now moments? Like the dog just chewed through a leash again? A kid's school project needs glitter glue tonight and somehow the toilet paper is gone. Yeah, that moment has happened to everyone. That's where Walmart Express delivery comes in. Clutch. Get all that pet stuff, school stuff, household stuff, all the stuff in as fast as one hour. One hour. That means chargers, diapers, candles, light bulbs, laundry detergent, real life rescue items. And it's all from Walmart. Just hop on the app, order what's needed, and boom, it's at the door before a toddler melts down or before halftime is even over. Yes, game day food can be delivered in an hour too. Try it now and get free delivery on a first order with promo code Express. That's free delivery on a first order with promo code Express Walmart Express delivery in as fast as 1 hour. Promotion valid for the first express delivery. Order $50 men subject to availability restrictions apply.
- [19:46]
Colin Coward
Hi, it's Colin from the Colin Coward Podcast. That would make sense that I would be the host of the Colin Coward podcast. I mean, that's the way I see it. I've been around long enough to know quality when I see it. Or in this case, when I taste it. Tito's handmade vodka. Good stuff. No flash, no gimmicks. Smooth, clean, tasting, made the right way. I like things that are built to last. A great team, a well run organization. Same goes for my vodka, Tito's. Made in Austin, Texas. Real care, attention to detail, distinct, crisp taste. I was just telling my wife the other day, Tito's is the one vodka. It has a completely distinct taste. Been my go to for years, so I like to keep it simple. Tito's soda, one lime, lot of ice, refreshing, easy. Summer, winter, spring. Totally versatile. Always works. Listen, baseball season's here. Your team's going to play 162 games. A perfect time to kick back with some Tito's. It's what I pour. You should too. Distilled and bottled by 5th Generation Inc. Austin, Texas. 40% alcohol by volume. Savor responsibly.
- [20:53]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I will move on. Days before he plays against the packers for the first time in his career, Aaron Rodgers made it clear he will retire as a Packer when that day comes. Rogers said this past summer he's pretty sure 2025 will be his final season and if it is, indeed, he plans to own a ceremony ceremoniously leaving the game as a Packer. I was up there for 18 years. Regardless of when I hang it up, that's the bulk of my career. I retire Packer and see what happens after that. I've got a love for that, for that organization and my time there. They asked this week, is it a revenge game or whatever? What do I got to be? What do I got to avenge here? They made me ton of money. True. I grew up there, spent some of the best years of my life there. I've got nothing but love for this organization.
- [21:39]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Listen, Aaron Rodgers is in a good place. Aaron Rodgers is in a good place for the simple fact that he gets to control his future. Yeah, the Steelers. The Steelers don't have an answer at the quarterback position.
- [21:50]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Nope.
- [21:51]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Aaron Rodgers is coming back. Mike Tomlin and the Rooneys are going to ask Aaron Rodgers to come back. How much you need, what you need is to give you. Because the way he's Playing the way he's playing this year, there's a resurgence in him. There's resurgence in him, you know, and if they're going to have a chance, if they're going to have an opportunity, if they're going to be able to compete as an organization, as a franchise, they're going to want number eight to come back, and they're willing to give him what he needs to do. So he's not going to retire. I'm even at 41, 42, whatever it may be, he's going to be feeling that much better, because whatever they pay him is going to make him feel better, I think. Make him feel better.
- [22:29]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I agree. I think the thing is, Ocho, is.
- [22:31]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
That.
- [22:35]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
He wanted to be wanted. He wants to feel appreciated. And he feels. He feels that for the first time in a long time. Yes. Because what happened is that when you don't re. Extend him, you're telling me you don't want me, then you go draft a quarterback. You're really telling me you don't want me. And then all this stuff starts leaking out. Well, Aaron Rodgers was not informed about the quarterback. Nobody needed to know that.
- [23:00]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Right?
- [23:01]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Nobody needed to know that. The general, the owner. What was his name? Picks up the call and say, aaron Rodgers, don't you be the problem. Nobody don't need to know that.
- [23:13]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Right.
- [23:14]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
So he felt they were going behind his back, undermining him, making him look bad.
- [23:19]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yeah.
- [23:20]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
When it wasn't necessary.
- [23:21]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yeah.
- [23:22]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
It goes to the Jets. The jets wanted him for whatever reason. It didn't work out there. And then you hear all the stuff start creeping out of the locker room. Now you really haven't heard anything come out of Pittsburgh. Mike Tomlin wants him. He says, mike Tomlin did not put no pressure on me, saying, when you gonna sign? When you gonna come up here? When can we show you around? He said Tomlin didn't do any of that and he was very appreciative of him, giving him his space and allowing him time to make the decision that, can I commit? Can I give them a year? Can I give them an absolute year where I'm totally focused on the game of football. He seems to be at a better place in his life. He's gotten married. Reports. I mean, that's what he said. I didn't know reports. He said he's gotten married. He says he's in a great headspace. He's playing like he's in a great headspace, but at the end of the day, he wanted to be wanted. Yeah, he Wanted to be. He wanted to be appreciated. And he felt his last several years in Green Bay. Now he might have felt that, but that doesn't. They still took him in the first round. They still. He won four MVPs there. He won a Super bowl there. He won an MVP there. He cut his teeth as one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play.
- [24:35]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yes.
- [24:36]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
No matter what happened in New York or Pittsburgh, everybody's gonna remember him as a Green Bay Packer.
- [24:42]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Absolutely. Absolutely. So those New York years, these years in Pittsburgh, whether it be one, whether it be two, whether it be three, will never override or overshadow what he did in Green Bay. He will always be a Packer in the eyes of those that understand and watch the game of football over the years.
- [24:59]
Lenovo Pro Advertiser
Always.
- [25:01]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Yes. And so, you know, I think that's great when, when the guys that spend the bulk of their career somewhere and they get an opportunity to come back and the team is welcome there with open arms. You signed a one day contract and you retire. You retire as a, as a member of the team that you broke in with and you're most commonly known for. I don't know if Brady did that. I don't know if Brady. But even though Brady won a Super Bowl, Brady, Brady's gonna be remembered as.
- [25:29]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
A Patriot no matter what.
- [25:31]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I think he had three years, he won a Super bowl, he threw for 5,000 yards. But in the eyes of everybody, he's a Patriot.
- [25:37]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
He's a Patriot. Absolutely. Hey, matter of fact.
- [25:39]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
But you know what, Ocho?
- [25:41]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Huh?
- [25:42]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
A lot of people still, they, they look at Peyton Manning as a Bronco because they see him at all the Bronco games. He does the. He lives in Denver.
- [25:50]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
He lives in Denver. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [25:52]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Yes.
- [25:52]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yeah.
- [25:53]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
He lives in Denver. He's so. I mean he's at all the games. I know he wants to be the teams of skyrocketing the value of teams. He wants to own a team, but the own 40% of a team. Ocho, he took a $4 billion. Yeah. You talking 50. Oh, so you want to be the majority owner. So you got to own at least 50 of the team, right? That's five. That's you know, four or five. Four billion. Three and a half. Four billion dollars.
- [26:24]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Damn.
- [26:25]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
And, and, and the value isn't. They aren't coming down.
- [26:29]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
No, listen, the mad market would never come down.
- [26:31]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
No.
- [26:33]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Ever. Damn, man, that's crazy.
- [26:39]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
So it's going to be. I, I'm look at the end of the day and that's what I say. That's why all the time. It's hard to go to work when you're not. When you're not happy or you feel unappreciated, you feel you're not appreciated. It's hard, Ocho. Hey, man, you make all that money. I don't give a damn about this money.
- [26:58]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Money don't mean nothing, man.
- [27:00]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I ain't happy.
- [27:01]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Hold on. We know what it feel like for one to be happy. Yes. What it feel like to be appreciated and happy.
- [27:07]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Yes.
- [27:07]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
And then you add someone actually wanting you on top of that. But you talk about that's a trifecta that is undefeated for an individual, Whether it be. Whether it be in sports, whether it be in the corporate world, or whether it be in a relationship with somebody. Man, there's nothing better than that feeling of being appreciated and being wanted. It's one of the greatest feelings in the world. Like, I love when my kids ask me for something. Huh? I love when they ask me for something and there's an appreciation to it that I'm able to provide whatever it may be that they want. Sometimes it's not within reason because you don't need it.
- [27:46]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Right?
- [27:47]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
But the fact that I can tell you why you don't need it, but the fact that I'm in a position to be able to do, like, that shit feel good.
- [27:54]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I told my kids, don't ask me for nothing until 20, 27, because I ain't got it. I ain't got it. I told him, I ain't got it. I ain't got. Your daddy ain't got it, you, daddy ain't got it. Now they know. They solid. They know. Hey, hell no. Look, when they come to me, I already know. They. They thought long. They thought long and hard before they asked daddy.
- [28:26]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. Listen, one, one, My baby hit me today. Daddy, what you doing? I responded back, how much? I mean, listen, I would call. I would call to see how you were doing. I was just calling to see how you checking.
- [28:45]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
Ain't checking.
- [28:46]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Yeah, yeah, you ain't. You ain't. You ain't. You ain't never call that. See how I'm doing.
- [28:49]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Hey, listen, see, I say, man, baby, I'm right here. I'm on the game. I'm chilling. Everything good? Okay.
- [28:56]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
My son called me five.
- [28:58]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Five minutes later. Send me some money. I'm getting ready to go out of town. Yeah, I. I knew that. I figured that.
- [29:06]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Sure.
- [29:07]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Hey, miss me with a small talk now get to the point.
- [29:10]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
My son called me. Guess where he called me at? Ocho, where you at? Broke down side the road. I said, hey, aaa, I'm in Vegas. What you call me for? You. You want me to call aaa?
- [29:22]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Right, right, right, right.
- [29:24]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Yeah, I'm just, you know, I got the kids in the car.
- [29:26]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
Oh, man.
- [29:27]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Come on.
- [29:28]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Really? You called me bro, downside, the road with the kids in the car.
- [29:32]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Right.
- [29:33]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I say, oh, man, what do you.
- [29:36]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Want you to do? Call AAA or just send a little cash? Oh, a new one.
- [29:43]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Yeah. Ocho, I'm in Vegas, right here in Atlanta. What can I do from Vegas?
- [29:49]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
I mean, you can.
- [29:49]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
If he called me, he could have called a tow truck or he could have called aaa.
- [29:53]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Right, right, right, right. But you. You got to get him something new, huh? What do you want, a Range Rover?
- [29:57]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
And still. So if I call, I still got to call AAA or the tow company to get it, right? I said, oh, man.
- [30:08]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Damn.
- [30:10]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Hey, just tell Shelly what you And. And go.
- [30:18]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
I like that. Hey, I need.
- [30:19]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Hey, Ocho. And then he goes, ocho, he gonna send me a picture in front of the vehicle like this.
- [30:27]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Hey, he got something new, huh?
- [30:29]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Yeah.
- [30:29]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Hey. I say, hey, that's dope. My. My son massages. Massage little cj.
- [30:35]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Let's see.
- [30:35]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
They just got his first. His first little Tesla. Just got the first little Tesla without. Without my help.
- [30:42]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Oh, did he?
- [30:43]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yeah, man. Yeah, man. That felt good. That was pretty dope. That was pretty dope. Hey, all my kids, everybody got. Everybody got their cars, everybody squared away. You know, I'm feeling. I'm feeling. I'm feeling accomplished.
- [31:04]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Oh, yeah, yeah, the kids. So. But as. But look, the whole thing is. Is that why we work so hard and do what we do?
- [31:17]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yeah.
- [31:17]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
And I've never Me. I really don't buy a whole lot of stuff for myself. Yeah. I'll see something here or there, I'll get. But for the most part, it's so my kids, they. But they work. I say, look, this family ain't got room but for one lazy mofo. I mean, yeah, yeah. Everybody else that's younger than the. Younger than me, you got to get it. Look, I got no problem. Like I say, they. When they called me, I know they had their weird singing. I know they don't tried everything in the call their mom and the mom, like, look, you know I ain't got it.
- [31:49]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yeah.
- [31:49]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
You know I ain't got it.
- [31:50]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yeah. You know what? As long as you're working and it this. And this ain't just about no kids in general, this is it.
- [31:58]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Yeah.
- [31:58]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
When you're calling on Somebody you ask for help. As long as you're trying to help yourself and you're doing.
- [32:03]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
That's it. That's all I ask. That's all I ask.
- [32:05]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Just be doing something. If you doing something, I have no problem helping you at all. Just show, show me you're making some type of effort that go for my kids. I mean, just for anybody. Enjoy. Especially a close proximity in. In my small circle. Man, you good.
- [32:21]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Kids got to show me everybody else, Everybody else that I'm gonna really help to. That they don't got too old to really work. My mom, right? I got my mom a car. She probably put two miles on that car. But anyway, she. She wanted a new car, I got her a car. My brother took care of him. My sister. My sister's like, I don't. Hey, the drive right around here in Glenville, I don't need nothing. But that's. I love the fact that, you know, they work for themselves. They do. They do their own. They do the best they can. I said, long, as long as you go work hard and you're gonna. Hey, you're gonna. You're gonna. You tried, right? I got you. But don't call me and say you without no job. I don't care if you switch a hundred jobs, right? Just before you leave that job, you make sure you got another one lined up. You got.
- [33:09]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
You gotta have something lined up. You gotta.
- [33:10]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
That's it. That's all. That's all I ask. That's all I ask.
- [33:13]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
You ever been in a situation in general, like was someone that wasn't working?
- [33:19]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
No, I got nothing for you. But see, Ocho, the way I am, I'm only gonna give you what I give you money. I don't lend money, right? So because I don't want you money.
- [33:30]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Not to have get back. You give what you said not to get back.
- [33:32]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Okay, that's it. I'm gonna give you what I can afford, like. And walk away. Just walk away from. Walk away from it, right? That's. That's what, that's what I do, right? So when my home, when they ask me for money, that's what I do. I'm gonna give you whatever. Whatever I give you. I don't expect nothing back. I don't mention it, right? I don't bring it up. I don't talk. We don't talk about it, right? Hey, hey, hey, man, you know, I know I owe you, bro. You good. I ain't mentioned it. I ain't brought it up, right? You good. So. But but that's the whole, that's the whole point of it, Ocho.
- [34:09]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yes, yes, yes.
- [34:10]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I'm gonna die and do what, right?
- [34:13]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yeah.
- [34:14]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I mean, I can't take none of that with me.
- [34:16]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
No.
- [34:16]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I can't buy my way into heaven and I can't, hey, keep my way out of hell. So somebody might as well get some use out of it.
- [34:24]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
You right, you right. But, but also, you got to be careful with people taking advantage of you just because you do have it. Just because you are going to.
- [34:31]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
For sure. For sure.
- [34:33]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
I hate that. I hate that part.
- [34:35]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
But I'm kind of insulated, so ain't nobody really got my number outside my close, close, close friends, right? And, and, and you know, you got to go through my sister. You know, anybody that's on that, that side, you got to go through my sister.
- [34:50]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Right?
- [34:50]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
And she ain't going to give you my number. And she goes to just tell you no.
- [34:53]
Lenovo Pro Advertiser
Pro drivers live for race day. But for small business owners, every day is race day. That's why going pro with Lenovo Pro matters one on one advice. IT solutions and customized hardware powered by Intel Core Ultra processors. Keep your business on the right track. Business goes pro with Lenovo Pro. Sign up for free@lenovo.com Pro Lenovo Lenovo.
- [35:24]
WashablesOfSofas.com Advertiser
Life's messy. We're talking spills, stains, pets and kids. But with Annabe, you never have to stress about messes again. At WashablesOfAs.com, discover Annabe sofas. The only fully machine washable sofas inside and out, starting at just $699. Made with liquid and stain resistant fabrics, that means fewer stains and more peace of mind. Designed for real life, our sofas feature changeable fabric covers allowing you to refresh your style anytime. Need flexibility? Our modular design lets you rearrange your sofa effortlessly. Perfect for cozy apartments or spacious homes. Plus, they're earth friendly and built to last. That's why over 200,000 happy customers have made the switch. Upgrade your space today. Visit washablesofas.com now and bring home a sofa made for life. That's washablesofas.com offers are subject to change. Change and certain restrictions may apply.
- [36:23]
Colin Coward
This podcast is sponsored by PayPal. Okay, let's talk holiday shopping. When you want to make the most of your Money, head to PayPal's app before you check out. They give you the flexibility to pay in four no fees, no interest. And this is big. Bigger than the 12 foot snowman on your lawn. Right now. You can get 5% cash back when you pay later with PayPal. So whether it's the must have merchant or for that signed jersey you've been eyeing, PayPal helps you make the most of your money this holiday. Save this offer in the PayPal app expires 1231.
- [36:58]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
See paypal.com promoterms Subject to approval.
- [37:02]
Lenovo Pro Advertiser
Learn more at paypal.com payin4paypal inc.nmls910457 okay.
- [37:09]
Walmart Express Delivery Announcer
Real talk Ever have one of those need it right now moments? Like the dog just chewed through a leash again? A kid's school project needs glitter glue tonight and somehow the toilet paper is gone. Yeah, that moment has happened to everyone. That's where Walmart Express delivery comes in. Clutch. Get all that pet stuff, school stuff, household stuff, all the stuff in as fast as one hour. One hour. That means chargers, diapers, candles, light bulbs, laundry detergent, real life rescue items. And it's all from Walmart. Just hop on the app, order what's needed, and boom, it's at the door before a toddler melts down or before halftime is even over. Yes, game day food can be delivered in an hour too. Try it now and get free delivery on a first order with promo code Express. That's free delivery on a first order with promo code Express. Walmart Express delivery in as fast as 1 hour. Promotion valid for the first express delivery order. $50 men subject to availability restrictions apply.
- [38:11]
Colin Coward
Hi, it's Colin from the Colin Coward Podcast. That would make sense that I would be the host of the Colin Coward podcast. I mean, that's the way I see it. I've been around long enough to know quality when I see it. Or in this case, when I taste it. Tito's handmade vodka. Good stuff. No flash, no gimmicks. Smooth, clean tasting. Made the right way. Okay. I like things that are built to last. A great team, a well run organization. Same goes for my vodka. Tito's. Made in Austin, Texas. Real care, attention to detail, distinct crisp taste. I was just telling my wife the other day, Tito's is the one vodka. It has a completely distinct taste. Been my go to for years, so I like to keep it simple. Tito's soda, one lime, lot of ice. Refreshing, easy. Summer, winter, spring. Totally versatile. Always works. Listen, baseball season's here. Your team's going to play 162 games. A perfect time to kick back with some Tito's. It's what I pour. You should too. Distilled and bottled by 5th Generation Inc. Austin, Texas. 40% alcohol by volume. Savor responsibly.
- [39:19]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
O Joe. Joe. Kevin Stefanski says Shador Sanders is not getting any first team reps like Dylan Gabriel. Like he did, like Dylan Gabriel did when Joe Flacco was the starter. Stefanski said it's because Gabriel being young, you want to make sure he's getting a lot of reps. It's different when you have a vet like Joe Ocho. What you think, is this normal protocol?
- [39:39]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Hell no. You know, that ain't normal protocol. You should be doing the same exact thing you were doing with Joe Flacco and Dylan Gabriel. Now, Dylan Gabriel, the story. You should be doing the same thing you were doing with Dylan Gabriel and Joe Flacco. Well, goddamn Shador. It's a bunch of trash. And all that is telling me is that Shador is not closer to getting the starting job until Dylan Gabriel shows that he just can't get the job done. And I'm. And that's why I say they're probably, maybe, maybe towards the end of the season, maybe last three weeks, Dylan Gabriel, at some point, teams are going to force him. You're gonna have to beat us with your arm. Not going. We're not going to allow to allow QJ to run up and down the field. They're going to play, they're going to stack nine in the box. You're going to have to prove that you can beat us with your arm. That's it.
- [40:22]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Yeah, you're right. I mean, I think. Look everywhere I've been, even when we had veteran quarterbacks or whatever, he get one or two reps. I know, obviously, if you normally. I don't know how it was, but we had 10 plays. We ran 10 plays per period. Offense got 10, defense got 10, right. Offense got 10, defense got ten. Okay? Special teams do what they do, whether it was punt, punt return, kick, kick return, whatever the case may be. And then guess What, Ocho? Another 10, another 10, another 10, number 10. So for the soul, but you mean to tell me Shador can't get one rep, two reps with the starters? I mean, out of 10 reps, he can't get one.
- [41:01]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
What would that, what would that do? That would be wasting time. Getting one or two reps with the starter is wasting time. And obviously on the fancy side, also, it can give Dylan Gabriel some type of. What's the word? I'm looking for some type of security. Okay. My job is not in jeopardy. I'm not playing as well as I think it should. I should be playing. So I'm getting all the reps to make sure that those Reps actually count in practice. And once I get into the games, I'm familiar with those situations.
- [41:32]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Okay.
- [41:33]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
And that, that's all. I can see it from that point too, you know, as a coach, wanting him to get all the reps so he can get a little bit more comfortable with the situations as based on. It ain't. Ain't the preseason I'm on.
- [41:45]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
It ain't the preseason I can't see.
- [41:47]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Listen, they playing the goddamn Patriots this goddamn Sunday. And that defense, man, look here. All that, all that check down here and check down there and trying to stay with.
- [41:59]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
They sitting on everything. They're gonna be sitting on everything.
- [42:01]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Every, everything.
- [42:03]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Hey, look, I can't see it. I don't see how he can't get no rip, man. You don't know what's gonna happen. This is the NFL, bro. You one play away. One. So now when the guy goes in, he ain't never prepared because he ain't getting no reps. You talking about he can't. Like I said, Joe, I agree with you. I'm not saying, Ocho, you split it 5 and 5, but he can't get 1 to 2 reps in a 10 play series.
- [42:26]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yeah, I, I understand what you mean. I understand.
- [42:30]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Even if it ain't nothing but a handoff. That's what I'm saying. It don't make no sense to me, man.
- [42:34]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
A handoff on.
- [42:36]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Yeah. Even if hitting up with the handoffs. Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure Shador would like to throw the ball, but just get the A, Let him see the, the blocking with the first team. O, Let him see the, the mesh point with the first team running back. Things like it's, it's simple. It seems simple. Let him take a snap from the guy that's going to be in the game. I look and I get it and I understand, like you said, Ocho, that you know, Gabriel needs a lot of reps. But I don't think, I don't think you stun his growth. I don't think you harm him in any way if you give Shadua one to two reps in a ten play series. I don't. Hey, I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you because like, like, like we saying, man, it's the NFL. You never know when you're gonna need Shador. It's a long season. Hey, look, man, you get him out there and he ain't had no reps with, with none of the guys. Now it's gonna Seem foreign to him. I see he's still putting in the work. But, man, listen, you gotta get that man a couple reels in practice, man. Come on, now. Because at the end of the day, everybody look good in practice. I want to know what you. When you get in the game. But if you haven't done it in the game, it's hard to come in off the. Just come in and just go. Yeah, because it's. It's. It's a thousand. It's a thousand times faster in the game than what it is in practice. Much. And guys be moving in practice. But, boy, that thing is warp speed come game time. You come in that game, them guys already lathered up. They've been. They didn't already played a quarter or two. Boy, please. Oh, yeah, they hunting. They hunting. Ocho Joe. Another day, another bizarre statement from Tua at the presser. Let's take a listen to what Tua had to say today. Ocho who? Yeah, I think with that, some of it has to do with being able to see guys with their guys also.
- [44:31]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
Up front and our guys, and I'm not the tallest guy in the back there either, so being able to see, and then sometimes when that happens, you don't want to just throw it blindly.
- [44:41]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
And you got to progress.
- [44:42]
Lenovo Pro Advertiser
So I think that had some merit.
- [44:44]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
To reasons as to why that happened for Waddle.
- [44:50]
Colin Coward
I, I think.
- [44:50]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
I think he's referring to Jaden Waddle not getting any targets in. In the previous game that he just played against the Browns.
- [44:57]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Not one?
- [44:59]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
No, I, I don't think so. No, not any. I don't think he even had any catches. But that goes to say, two is not that tall. Well, hell, neither is Kyler Murray. Well, neither is Baker Mayfield. Neither. Some other quarterbacks that Fluti.
- [45:12]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I mean, Russell. Russell Wilson.
- [45:14]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Russell Wilson. But all of them find a way to get the job done so we. We can't use. Oh, the offensive line will talk. Oh, the D line. I can't see. It's all about anticipation. Understand?
- [45:24]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Targets, one catch, Ocho.
- [45:26]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yep. Come on, now.
- [45:27]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Four targets, one catch.
- [45:31]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
That's. That's your best weapon. Outside of Von Hin, that's your best weapon. So you have to be able to get in the ball. Tyreek Hill is gone. Who's the next speedster that can move the chains? Who's your next guy?
- [45:42]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Darren Waller is out also. He strained a pec muscle. Yeah, I mean, oh, what y' all got going on down in Miami?
- [45:50]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
I, I, I don't. I don't know. Joe, I don't, Joe, I don't know. I don't know. Joe. Honestly, to me at this point, I say you blow the whole thing up. I say blow the whole thing up and just start.
- [46:01]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I think that lady was in, in Georgia when she told that police officer, will he arrest her. You about to lose your job. You about to lose your job. I don't, I don't like talk himself out of that job. Ojo. Yeah, dude making some money over there though. That's okay. They gonna have to eat that a team that worth 7 billion to eat 55 million. That's a tax write off. Oh.
- [46:28]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Hey Ocho, it hurts.
- [46:30]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Why would you, why would you make an excuse to like. Oh yeah, cause you know, I'm not the tallest guy back there and they're not the tallest. What?
- [46:37]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
I, I, I, I don't know.
- [46:39]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I guarantee you Ocho, when he went in for his interviews, he ain't mentioned his height one time. He didn't mention one time that he has a problem seeing over lineman, seeing down the field. What you think he, what do you think the chances are, Ocho, when he was going in on his interviews, right, that he brought, he mentioned his height?
- [46:57]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
No, they got, they got passing lanes for a reason. You anticipate, you anticipate throws for a reason. He Tua is a very, very, very good, above average rhythm quarterback. His anticipate anticipatory skills are really good. That's how he plays, that's how he runs the offense.
- [47:27]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I just, it just seemed like Ocho, the more he talks, the worse it gets.
- [47:32]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yeah.
- [47:32]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
And I understand as a quarterback, Ocho, you got to have that presser. Normally it's on Wednesday or Thursday. Yeah, some quarterbacks, some of them have it on Thursday, some of them have it on Wednesday. So he has to talk. He's the starting quarterback. Boy, he has not doing himself any favors.
- [47:47]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Shouldn't he have some type of training and what to say?
- [47:49]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
He should have had that training already. He went to Alabama. Alabama. Make sure you get all that. Hey look, you got to cut out the excuses man, and have some accountability at the end of the day. At the end of the day. Ah, that's what it comes down to. That's it.
- [48:06]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
That's tough.
- [48:07]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Just say you got to play better, man. That's tada. That's it. Just say you got to play better and stop, you know, dancing around and coming up with all these excuses. Just, he just, I mean like I said, the more he talks, the worse it gets. He threw his teammates under the bus. And the thing was, he threw him under the bus after he had one of his worst games of the year, if you can believe that. Because all of them. Ain't none of them been really good. And then he follows. He follows that up with another stinker. Yeah. Yeah. So back to back. Excuse me, Back to back week three interception games. And that's what we're supposed to follow.
- [48:45]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Well, he got. He got 10 on the season so far, huh?
- [48:49]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I think so.
- [48:49]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
I'm assuming he would be leading the NFL in interceptions.
- [48:52]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
No, I think Gino got that one. Oh. I said, I think, you know, got that on lock. I see. I seen. I seen what coach was like. I hope he don't get 10. He might.
- [49:04]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yeah.
- [49:05]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Oh. Tua and Gino are tied. How many? Both of them got 10. Damn.
- [49:11]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Damn.
- [49:14]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I. I just. At some point in time, you know, you just have to, like, you know what? You got to do the. You got to do the presser because you're the starting quarterback. But they're going to be a time mocho. If he keep playing like this, guess what? He won't have to do it. Yours or Zach Wilson will be doing the presser. Right.
- [49:32]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Damn, man.
- [49:33]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Because they. They can't. Because you can't. I understand he makes a lot of money. Right. But you got 52 other guys in that locker room, Ocho, that you have an account for now. Yeah. And they see he not playing well, and it's a lot easier when you're not playing well and we don't like you. Cause you already did some slick ish. Yeah. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Yeah.
- [49:57]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Hey, there's only one way to overcome this. And I mean, for Tua's sake, and that's what you play. Now, they might not look at you the same as a teammate anymore, but if you continue to play bad, it's going to get even worse.
- [50:11]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I don't see how he played better, Ocho. It's not Ocho. If you look at. If you look at this team, I mean, they needed Tyreek to open things up. Tyreek could take the top off. It gave everybody else an opportunity to work up underneath.
- [50:24]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Right.
- [50:25]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
So there was so much space. It's kind of like you on the court with Steph Curry. There gonna be a lot of space because they're gonna be trying to crowd him.
- [50:32]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Right? Right.
- [50:33]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Well, with no step on the court, who. Why I need to crowd. I can condense it now. I ain't got to worry about nobody.
- [50:41]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
Right?
- [50:41]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Right. Same thing. With no Tyreek, I'm not nearly as worried about Waddle as I once was.
- [50:46]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Right.
- [50:47]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
And then who else I got? They don't have a very good offensive line. Tua is not fast. Hell, if I shut down the run, where he going? If I play cover five, Ocho, if I play two, man, what you are going. Who's he out running? And like you said, he already said he's not the tallest guy.
- [51:09]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
And the fact that he's not a dual threat, Joe, and I'm. He has to be that he is better.
- [51:14]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
He'll do a threat. He liable to throw a pick or fumble it, so he'll do a three. Oh, I know what you mean. You mean running and passing the football. Okay, I thought you meant Drew.
- [51:27]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Hey, that's messed up.
- [51:29]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Hey, hey, he can get better, man. It's still. It's still early in the season. Oh, that. I don't. But how many. How many times have you been sacked? I don't know if his offensive line is that good and he ain't much better. Oh, it looked like one time they just let. They let the defense just. Just come in and say, yeah, since you snitching. Hey, they act like that in football, huh? Yeah. You doing all this talking to the media. Yeah, we gonna let. We gonna let these pass rushes get right on up in there. Well, he don't got. He done got benched, so he might have had more. How many times did they sack yours? Once he came in the game because they put them on his head, too. But he's still the starter, though, ain't he? Yeah, I don't know for how much longer, Joe, but he is.
- [52:13]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
They. They put him back in this week.
- [52:16]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
They haven't said that. Well, he did say. He said he's the starter, and his expectation is he doesn't throw 10 picks. Oh, yeah.
- [52:22]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
I mean, well, hell, he making 50 million a year. He ain't got no choice but to start.
- [52:26]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Hello. Yeah, right. So, I mean, there are a lot of quarterbacks that have been sacked more than Tua that don't turn the ball over like tua. So you can't. You can't turn the ball over and take a bunch of sacks.
- [52:46]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Matter of fact, who. Who we got this. Who we got?
- [52:48]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Because a lot of times, oh, we're saying, okay, he's taking sacks to avoid turnovers, but you turning the ball over still. It's just. I. I think for me, it's just gonna be a situation. He gotta go, Ojo.
- [53:03]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Hey, we. We. Damn. We got. We got the Falcons this week.
- [53:08]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Oh, yeah, y'. All. What you call. About what you call. Bijon about to go for, like, fit 150 in Atlanta. In Atlanta?
- [53:17]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yes, in Atlanta.
- [53:19]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Hey, hey, them, boy. Hey, them boys ain't nothing nice here in Atlanta. Why? Oh, they on that turf. They got something.
- [53:24]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
And then it looked like we got the Ravens right after that, in a.
- [53:26]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Short week, Thursday night, Lamar be back, won't he? Yep. Yeah. Ocho, let me know what you think about this. Tyreek Hill is weighing his option. After suffering a season ending injury last month, he said on the Set podcast that he's undecided about whether to retire or continue playing. Right now, I'm happy being with my kids. I'm happy with the career I've had. And I love playing football. I love it. But it, man. But it takes a lot, man, to be the best and to stay at the top. And I'm at the point now where I need to have a conversation with my mom, family, and everybody, like I said, wherever my mind is at the time, the decision to be made. But I just right now feel like I haven't had time to just live in the moment. I just. I just be in the moment with my family.
- [54:21]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
He's not retiring. He's not retiring. He's going through the withdrawals of not being able to play right now. You can't run. You hobbled, you're injured right now. You got a rehab. Once he gets back in form, however long that takes, the thought of retiring is far gone. He has too much football left to play. Yeah, he had too much. Too much football left to play. Not only does he have too much football left to play, there's a new journey, there's a new chain. There's a change of scenery waiting on him. I'm not sure where it may be. I'm sure we'll be a place that can use his skill set. And even if he's not as fast as he once was, he'll still be fast than everybody else.
- [55:03]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
You're absolutely right. Everything that you said is true.
- [55:07]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yeah. Yeah.
- [55:08]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
That's the. Damn, man. I got hurt. I mean, it's a serious injury. He dislocated his knee and he tore ligaments.
- [55:15]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yeah. He'll be back, though.
- [55:17]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Yeah. For sure.
- [55:18]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
And the exciting part for Tyreek Hill is I know I'm coming back, right. I gotta get my. I gotta whip myself back into shape, get back, get back close to 100% as I can.
- [55:30]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Right.
- [55:30]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
And get ready to contribute to a new team where that is. I don't know. That's the exciting part for me.
- [55:38]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
How much money Tyree got guaranteed next year?
- [55:44]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
It was 54, 50 something.
- [55:46]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
That's his cap number. I'm talking about how much he's. How much does he have guaranteed?
- [55:50]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Okay.
- [56:01]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Because this is the first year of a third of a three year, ninety million dollar deal. Wasn't it.
- [56:08]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
First? This might be the second year.
- [56:10]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I think I thought this was. So he had one more year left. Wow. Where they won't owe him any more money, huh? Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But we knew, look, I knew one way or another he wasn't gonna be there. Either he's gonna get traded or he's gonna be cut. Yeah, I know he wasn't gonna be there after this year.
- [56:52]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yeah. I think if, if he, if he hadn't got hurt, he would be. He'd be traded by the deadline, correct? Traded by the deadline.
- [57:02]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
I think the thing is, Ocho, in, in a situation like this, you know, because it's going to take him a little extra time because he had a dislocation and he told a couple of. I think he tore two ligaments in his knee ACL and yeah. I mean he wrecked it pretty good.
- [57:19]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yeah.
- [57:20]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
So that happened in October, November, December, January, February, March, April, May, June. Eight months, July, August. I could come back in 12, 10, 10, 10, 11 months.
- [57:39]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
10, 11, 2, 3, October.
- [57:44]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Yeah. They said he tore multiple ligaments and, and, and there's a.
- [57:50]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
He'll be ready by the start of the season, Ocho.
- [57:54]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
He tore multiple ligaments and he dislocated the knee.
- [58:00]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
I think he'll be ready.
- [58:01]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
Huh.
- [58:03]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
And you gotta understand, Ocho, that's a lot of planting and cutting. That's a lot of speed. Think about when you run a comeback at that kind of speed.
- [58:10]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yeah.
- [58:10]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
That thing gotta be solid. Yeah.
- [58:13]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Not only does that have to be solid up here, gotta be able to.
- [58:17]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Absolutely.
- [58:18]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yeah.
- [58:19]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Oh, Ocho. Bengals linebacker and team captain Logan Wilson has requested a trade. The six year player has started all seven of his appearances this season. However, the team captain has seen his role reduced over the course of season. Rookies Barrett Carter and Demetrius Knight Jr. Have received the bulk of the defensive snaps this season. Ocho, would it be a mistake for them to trade a veteran player the captain of the defense and they're already struggling. What's going on, Ocho?
- [58:52]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Absolutely not. It would not. It would not be wrong. I'm not sure. You probably don't watch the Bengals the way I watch them. Anybody in the chat that watches the Bengals on defense Even though we're not playing up to par, obviously, offense being our identity. If you watch Demetrius Night, if you watch Demetrius Night, boy, he pop out on film. You hear me?
- [59:11]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
That's the rookie they got from South Carolina, right?
- [59:13]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Man, Listen, he went 44.
- [59:16]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Yeah, I think that's.
- [59:16]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
He went 44 for a reason. Young bull is special. He's special when you watch him. Hey, you. I'm, Listen, I'm at the game, right? I'm at the game and, you know, you watching everybody, and all of a sudden, boom. Flying out of nowhere. Boom. Flying out of nowhere. I'm watching on tv. Man, who in the hell is this? There's a reason why his role has been reduced. There's a reason why, you know, and ask. Asking for a trade is. I mean, that, that's, that's, that's the easy way out. But listen, if you can't get it done in, if you can't get it done in Cincinnati, where else you gonna get it done at? Think about that.
- [59:56]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
He said, well, I'm trying to play, Ocho. I ain't trying to be on no bench. I ain't gonna, I can't get no stats on the bench.
- [60:01]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
You're not listening to me, huh? If you can't get it done in Cincinnati, where we're not that good, where else are you going to go and get it done at? I mean, the, the. Hello. The call is coming from inside the.
- [60:14]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
House for sure.
- [60:16]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
You know, So, I mean, listen, I, I, I, I love Logan Wilson. I, I wish him the best. But those that are in front of you, where your role has been reduced are really good. They ain't no slouches despite being but that young man. Listen, I'm telling you, if you get a chance to watch the Bangles this Sunday when we play the jets, watch Demetrius.
- [60:36]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Oh, man, I ain't watching y' all play no Jets.
- [60:38]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Why not?
- [60:41]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Oh, you want, oh, so y' all can beat up on somebody? You want me to watch that?
- [60:44]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We beat up on the Steelers. I, I ain't say nothing about that.
- [60:49]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Oh, you said something about it.
- [60:52]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Hey, who, who y' all got, huh?
- [60:55]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
We got the Cowboys.
- [60:57]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
425 or 8:30 game?
- [60:59]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
425.
- [61:01]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yeah, but it ain't looking too good for y'.
- [61:02]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
All.
- [61:03]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Boy, I don't know why Picket Pickens might picking. Pickens is not goddamn CD land. Might have 300 yards all together.
- [61:12]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Well, they might go. They might get it on Riley Moss. They'll get it on certain. You know that.
- [61:17]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
So you think Riley Moss gonna give her 300 yards by itself?
- [61:20]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
They ain't gonna get it on. I know they're not gonna get anything. On certain.
- [61:24]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Okay.
- [61:24]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
All right, man. Aaron Gordon had 50 points, and they still lost 17 to 21. 10 of 11 from three.
- [61:31]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Wait, 50? 50?
- [61:32]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Who 50? Jokic had a triple double. Jamal Murray had 25, and they still got beat by the warriors. Steph had 42.
- [61:43]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
I knew I was just gonna ask you. Steph must have went crazy.
- [61:46]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
42. Jimmy Butler had 21, Draymond had 13. Kaminga had 14. Al Horford had 13, Buddy Hill had 11.
- [61:54]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Oh, I forgot Al Horford was there.
- [61:57]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Yep. I'm getting out of town. Y' all can't. Boston. We ain't got no chance.
- [62:05]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Not at all. Not. Not without Tatum.
- [62:07]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
No. Absolutely not. Ocho, we have some good news for you, though. Me Take a listen to what Jamar Chase had to say earlier today.
- [62:15]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yeah.
- [62:16]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
Yeah.
- [62:16]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Jamar, what's the biggest number of catches you think you could get in a game? 26.
- [62:25]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
I mean, I left a lot out there, if I'm being honest. I left a lot out there, so. But I doubt I was really going to get 26, though. But probably, like, 17, 18.
- [62:35]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
You don't think you can get 20?
- [62:37]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yeah, I mean, the sky's the limit.
- [62:39]
Quinshon Judkins (Cleveland Browns Rookie Running Back)
At the end of the day.
- [62:40]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Sky's always the limit.
- [62:42]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
But it's going to get. It's not going to be easy to tell you that. Like, I don't want. But doubles as five catches, 10 catches, you know, so. No, no, no. My goals are up. Super bowl, that's it. That's it.
- [63:01]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
You understand? I like that, man. He understands. They look at receivers that have super bowl rings different. I understand. Not only the quarterback is really judged heavily.
- [63:11]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Right.
- [63:12]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
But, you know, when they throw. When they throw up, when they talk about Jerry, what is the one thing Jerry can have over Randy, what he'd have over Tio, what he can have over Fitzgerald, Chris Carter, all those guys. What did he have?
- [63:23]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Super bowl rings. Rings. Yeah. Yeah.
- [63:26]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
And so Chase, like, hold on. Yes, I will have a bunch of catches. I'm gonna have a bunch of yards, considering where I am, where my career started. Right. But at the end of the day, they're gonna be looking at me sideways. I don't get no jewelry, especially with the quarterback that I got.
- [63:40]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Yeah, well, when he's healthy.
- [63:46]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Yes.
- [63:49]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
Thank.
- [63:50]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Yeah. Gotta stay healthy, Ocho.
- [63:54]
Ocho (Commentator/Analyst)
My goddamn bangles. But we gonna be all right, bro. We. We. We finna run the table man. We finna run. We finna run the table. I feel good about that.
- [64:04]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
This man here SA.
- [64:35]
Lenovo Pro Advertiser
Pro drivers live for race day. But for small business owners, every day is race day. That's why going pro with Lenovo Pro matters. One on one advice. IT solutions and customized hardware powered by Intel Core Ultra processors. Keep your business on the right track. Business goes pro with Lenovo Pro. Sign up for free@lenovo.com pro.
- [65:05]
Walmart Express Delivery Announcer
Does anything go better than Lego and Star Wars? I don't think so. Kids will love becoming a part of the galactic action while playing out their favorite adventures like with Jango Fett Starship. I mean this LEGO set is fantastic. It features a detailed recreation of Django Jango Fett Starship with four stud shooters, a seismic charge dropping function and wings that rotate with gravity. Plus it has three Jango Fett with two blasters and a jetpack. Young Boba Fett and Llama Su Perfect for endless play. Now for the big fans, there's Jango Fett's Firespray class Starship from the Ultimate Collector series. Packed with details and surprises for fans, this large scale set is perfect for anyone hunting for a mindful building escape. Plus you end up with a fantastic display piece. You can build this while your little ones build the kid set. You'll be like Jango and Boba building an adventure shop. Now for Star wars lego sets on lego.com or in lego retail stores.
- [66:06]
Colin Coward
Big deposits deserve big rewards Kraken is offering up to 2% back on crypto and cash deposits made this October. Deposit $1,000 or more and watch your reward grow as the Kraken community deposits reach 500 million.
- [66:22]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Opt in through the app and start stacking.
- [66:25]
Colin Coward
Get Kraken in the App Store or.
- [66:27]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Google Play Store today.
- [66:29]
Colin Coward
Not investment advice.
- [66:30]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Crypto trading involves risk of loss and.
- [66:32]
Colin Coward
Is offered to US customers through PayWord Interactive Incorporated. Terms apply.
- [66:38]
Joe (Host/Interviewer)
Get ready to power up your play with Nintendo Switch 2. Power up the visuals with 4K support and a bigger, more viv screen. Power of the fun with exclusive new games like Mario Kart World and Donkey Kong bonanza. Nintendo Switch 2 all together, anytime, anywhere. Games rated E to E10 plus games and systems sold separately. Compatible TV required for 4K display.
- [67:06]
Walmart Express Delivery Announcer
Ever go to make nachos on game day and realize the cheese is missing? Or the chips or both? It happens all the time. But check it. Walmart Express Delivery gets what's needed in as fast as one hour. One hour, people. And it's not just food. It's phone chargers, pet supplies toilet paper. Try it now and get free delivery on a first order with promo code Express. Walmart Express delivery in as fast as 1 hour. Promotion valid for first express delivery order $50 men subject to availability restrictions apply.