Club Shay Shay – “Best of NFL News Part 2: CeeDee and Pickens' Drunk Night Before Game, Michael Penix Jr. ACL injury!”

Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Host: Shannon Sharpe (iHeartPodcasts & Shay Shay Media)
Date: November 22, 2025

Episode Overview

In this highlight-filled episode, Shannon Sharpe and his guests (“Ocho” and “Joe”) dive deep into the latest NFL stories:

• Michael Penix Jr.’s devastating ACL injury and the recurring theme of athlete injuries.
• CeeDee Lamb and George Pickens’ infamous “drunk night” before a game.
• Contract chatter and future prospects for George Pickens with the Dallas Cowboys.
• Eagles offense woes and media provocations aimed at A.J. Brown.
• Debates over player availability, the value of “doing your part,” and fun, personal banter about on-field rivalry and legacy.

Throughout, the hosts mix serious football analysis with trademark humor, storytelling, and candid locker-room insights.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Michael Penix Jr.’s ACL Injury and Atlanta’s QB Situation

[03:39–09:47]

• Penix’s Injury Timeline:

  • Suffered a third major ACL tear (“partially torn ACL in Sunday’s game and his loss against the Panthers” – Joe, 03:39).
  • Has missed five out of eight college/NFL seasons with season-ending injuries, including shoulder issues during Indiana days.

• The Unforgiving Repetition of Rehab:

  • “Rehab just gets you back to where you were. I’m trying to get farther than where I was, Ocho...” (Joe, 08:05)
  • “I hate injuries, dude… players want to improve year to year.” (Ocho, 08:18)

• Falcons’ Draft Dilemma:

  • Discussion on Atlanta drafting Penix high despite medical history and giving Kirk Cousins a big contract post-Achilles.
  • “That contract just doesn’t make sense to me...you guarantee that type of money for a guy that hadn’t had postseason success and he’s coming off an Achilles injury.” (Joe, 11:33)

Notable Moment:
Joe compares Penix’s predicament to Thomas Davis, who tore his ACL three times and returned to Pro Bowl form: “Let’s just hope if it’s a situation like that…” (Joe, 05:47)

CeeDee Lamb & George Pickens: The Drunken Night Before the Game

[22:26–29:44]

• Rumor Confirmed:

  • CeeDee Lamb admits he and Pickens missed the opening drive after staying out late, “having dinner and a few drinks at Red Rock Casino.” (Joe, 22:26)

• Defending the Night Out:

  • CD refutes rumors about being seen “throwing up,” stating, “he knows how to hold his liquor.” (Joe, 22:26)
  • Ocho acknowledges late nights aren’t new in the NFL: “Back in the day… it was kept in house. Now, everybody can see everything… cameras everywhere.” (Ocho, 23:20)

• Changing Times:

  • The perils of technology, public exposure, and “gotcha” culture for today’s athletes.
  • Humorous recounting of how mistakes get instantly shared: “Even when you try to go out… somebody gonna know because you gonna post it.” (Joe, 23:49)

• On-Field Results Forgive All:

  • “With the way they playing as a 1A and 1B, man, y’all go ahead and do what you need to do… just don’t let nobody see y’all going out.” (Ocho, 29:22)

Pickens' Future in Dallas & The NFL’s Financial Realities

[33:53–41:41]

• Historic Performance & Contract Questions:

  • Pickens sets Dallas franchise record for most yards through 10 games, is set to become an unrestricted free agent.
  • “He’s second in receiving yards, Ocho, you know, I know you want Pick to chase the bag. Would you be content if Pick stayed in Dallas?” (Joe, 33:53)

• Ocho’s Take:

  • Advocates for maximizing first contract value: “You should want what’s best for Pick too...think about him long term, set up not just his kids, but his grandkids, kids…” (Ocho, 36:28)
  • Warns of Jerry Jones’ negotiation style and patience needed with agents (esp. David Mulughetta): “Is he gonna have the patience to deal with the bull jive Jerry gonna put him through?” (Ocho, 38:58)

• Salary Cap Strategies:

  • Joe predicts: “Could I see him getting a deal somewhere: five years, $180 million? I can see that. We cooking.” (Joe, 38:01)

• Roster Construction Wisdom:

  • “When you got a guy in your home… don’t let him leave.” (Joe, 40:17)

Eagles Offense, A.J. Brown, and Media Narratives

[43:12–47:18]

• AJ Brown Fires Back at Reporters:

  • Media tries to provoke: “There’s been speculation out there that you are not the same player you once were” (Reporter, 43:44)
  • Brown replies: “I guess that corner [isn’t] the same player” (A.J. Brown, 43:55)
  • Ocho and Joe break down the ‘baiting’ tactics and media ‘fishing expeditions.’

• Offensive Frustration & Receiving Corps Usage:

  • “If I know what [the Eagles] are doing, I don’t watch them every single week… the people getting paid to know are going to really know.” (Ocho, 53:35)
  • Calls for more creative scheming and “pushing the ball down the field.” (Joe, 54:32)

• Blame Game & Leadership:

  • “There’s enough blame to go around on everybody offensively, from coaches to players, myself, the quarterback, the O-line, the running backs. You can’t pinpoint it.” (Joe, 48:14)

Burrow’s Return? And the Importance of ‘Availability’

[56:39–66:03]

• Burrow Practice Update:

  • “Joe Burrow made huge steps in his recovery journey… first full participant since turf toe injury.” (Joe, 56:39)

• Should He Return if Playoffs Are Out?

  • Ocho: “Burrow’s the competitor type, he’s coming back whether we win or lose…just to finish strong, make a statement.” (Ocho, 57:22)
  • Joe: “Sometimes, you’ve got to get in guys’ way, tell them: sit so you don’t get hurt again, we get you right next season.” (Joe, 62:16)

• Sharpe’s Availability Principle:

  • “You know, the really great—Ocho, you know this—they gotta be available.” (Joe, 65:46)
  • “I had the best feet…but you played every other year.” (Joe to Ocho, 65:54)

Legacy Banter: Trash Talk, Rivalry, and Individual vs. Team

[66:17–77:19]

• Ocho’s Legendary Feet and Route Running:

  • “They didn’t pay me to play receiver, Joe. They paid me for my feet alone.” (Ocho, 67:41)

• Sharpe and Ocho’s One-on-One:

  • Heated but humorous debate about who “got the best” of whom in their matchups:
    • “You had 30 something yards” – Joe, 70:45
    • “I never do that…that’s a lack of self-awareness…I never celebrate if I was scoring and we were losing.” – Ocho, 73:06

• On Being a Team Player:

  • “You can only control what you can control and do your part. Now, collectively as a team, I can’t control the other 10 people.” (Ocho, 66:53)
  • “He really needed to play an individual sport…when you play football, you really gotta rely on the 10 guys on offense, the 11 on defense…” (Joe, 68:01)

• Praise for Revis:

  • “That 2009 [Darrelle] Revis season, Joe—that was an historic run that will never be repeated…he traveled with number one every week.” (Ocho, 76:10)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Rehab just gets you back to where you Were. I’m trying to get farther than where I was, Ocho.”
  — Joe, [08:05]

• “Now, everybody can see everything… cameras everywhere.”
  — Ocho, [23:20]

• “When you got a guy in your home, Ocho, don’t let him leave.”
  — Joe, [40:17]

• “Two things can be true—he can be great and be a jackass at the same time.” (on Belichick)
  — Joe, [17:36]

• “He has to have been everything that Jerry had hoped for and more.” (on Pickens’ fit in Dallas)
  — Joe, [42:03]

• “You can only control what you can control and do your part.”
  — Ocho, [66:53]

• “That 2009 Revis season…will never be repeated.”
  — Ocho, [76:10]

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment/Topic | Time | |--------------------------------------------------|------------| | Michael Penix Jr. ACL Injury | 03:39–09:47| | Falcons’ QB Contract Conundrum | 06:23–12:16| | CeeDee & Pickens’ Casino Night | 22:26–29:44| | Pickens’ Contract Future & Dallas WR Strategy | 33:53–41:41| | Eagles, AJ Brown, & Media Fishing Expeditions | 43:12–47:18| | Bengals, Burrow’s Recovery, Importance of Health | 56:39–66:03| | Legacy Banter: Sharpe & Ocho’s Rivalry | 66:17–77:19| | Revis Praise & Lockdown Corners | 75:06–76:57|

Tone & Language

The episode’s conversational flow is informal, humorous, and authentic, blending insightful football analysis with locker-room storytelling. The hosts maintain honesty and a degree of irreverence—never shying away from calling out tough truths about NFL culture, contracts, and personal responsibility.

Summary prepared by AI—listen to the full episode for all sharp wit, deep-dive analysis, and priceless tales only Club Shay Shay can deliver!