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Best of NFL News Part 2: Shannon Sharpe TORCHES Eagles Fans for wanting Jalen Hurts BENCHED for Sam Howell, Kevin Stefanski wants OUT of Cleveland?!
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Joe Ocho
So let me get this straight.
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Uncle Joe
Your company has data here, there and everywhere, but your AI can't use the data because it's here, there and everywhere? Seems like something's missing.
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Joe Ocho
Every business has unique data.
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Uncle Joe
IBM helps your AI access your data wherever it lives. To change how you do business, let's.
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Joe Ocho
Create Smart to Business IBM.
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Rob Gronkowski
This is Rob Gronkowski from Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules for the second season in a row, I partnered with T Mobile's Friday night 5G lights, powering up hometown football across America. This year, T mobile invested over $4 million in prizes to help schools take their Friday nights to the next level. Now it's time to crown our $1 million grand prize prize winner. A huge congrats to Derrick's High school in Derrick's, Arkansas, home of the Outlaws and your 2020 5T mobile Friday night 5G lights champion. They scored a home field upgrade, Gronk Fitness weight room, a 2026 tailgate party and an all expense paid trip to the SEC Championship game. T to every school that competed, posted and rallied your communities. Thank you and a big thanks to T Mobile for making it all possible and helping communities shine under the Friday night lights. This season may be over, but the story isn't. Stay tuned for season three in 2026.
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Uncle Joe
Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap.
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Jenna Kim Jones
You're almost at the finish line, but.
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Uncle Joe
First, There the last one.
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Jenna Kim Jones
Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.
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Sophie Cunningham
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Ryan Seacrest
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Uncle Joe
Yeah, we got a very special guest joining us. He had the game winning interception of Jaylen her on Monday Night Football. Tony Jefferson in year 11, he has four interception matching his career total across the previous 10 season to a. I mean, is it a different type of glove? I mean, you get LASIK surgery, you wear glasses. How do you have as many interceptions in one season? With three. With four games. With four games. With four Games to three. Four games to play that you had the previous 10 season when you played 170 games.
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Tony Jefferson
It's that experience, man.
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Uncle Joe
Okay.
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Tony Jefferson
Getting put, putting myself in the right position, you know, game planning, more mature mentally as a football player. And you know, when you see. When you've seen it all, man, like you, like, you recognize stuff, like, a lot quicker. So I think that's really what it's been, bro, to be honest with you.
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Ocho
Hey, when I think about it, T, you know, looking at you guys defensively, if I'm not mistaken, you guys are ranked maybe, I think maybe fourth statistically. What do you think credit, you know, for you guys success on defense and the way you guys are playing this.
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Tony Jefferson
Season, it starts from the top. I think it starts from coaching. I think, yes. The game plan every week, starting from Jesse Menard, and then trickling down to our secondary coaches, Coach Klink and coach Fuller. Really, they just invest. Really, you could tell they put their all into the game plan and make it simple for us, you know. You know, each week is different. It's always a different challenge each week. And I think they give us the right tools that fit us. And, you know, they also give us the freedom to allow us to make the calls that we feel like is best as. As players out there. That fits us, too. So just being out there, comfortable, bro.
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Ocho
Right? That's dope. That's dope.
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Uncle Joe
Let me ask you, hold on. In May of 2023, you're like, okay, I'm going to retire and I'm gonna go into the scouting department with the Ravens. Then you unretire. What went into the decision? Like, you, like, you know what, it's time. I think it's time for me to transition and do something else. Was your body beat up or you just felt like, I'm just tired of doing this, getting up, putting my body through this training every day. And then you unretire. What went into those two decisions to make you retire? And. And then unreal.
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Tony Jefferson
The decision to retire. Honestly, I had Liz Frank. And I was playing in New York.
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Uncle Joe
Yeah.
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Tony Jefferson
And I had sprang. And I don't know if anybody. That is one of the most painful injuries to have. I didn't get the surgery. I played. I missed nine games, and I played through it, and I was like, there's no way I can go into next season and, like, feel like the player that I felt like I could be. So I had already had conversations with Eric Dacosta, the gym with the Ravens, and we talked about it, even as a player, about me, you know, wanting to get into scouting and get into the front office post football. So I already had that lined up, and I felt like it was a good and easy transition for me to be able to do that. And, you know, so I went into that, and as, you know, as a scout, you're grinding a lot of film. All you're doing is watching.
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Uncle Joe
Yeah, that's all you do all day.
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Tony Jefferson
And the more I was watching film and grinding film, I'm like, okay, I'm better. I know I'm better than this dude.
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Uncle Joe
You watch a film with guys, you know, you better than, like, hold on, he should be doing this, I should be doing what he doing.
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Tony Jefferson
Exactly. And then me just me still just being around the game, like. And a bunch of my former teammates were on the team. So, like, I'm still around them, yet I'm working in the front office. So it was like, man, I'm still around it. Like, we had went to the AFC championship that year against the Chiefs, and that my juices were still going and they were flowing. You know, I would be going on the field pregame, and I'm, like, sizing up the other team. Like, I still had that in me. So, you know, I went to the Senior bowl as a scout, and I was there, and I came back home and I was like, I hit up the gym with the Raiders. I'm like, yeah, I'm done. I'm done. I went home, started training. Rest is history.
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Ocho
Yeah.
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Uncle Joe
Yeah, that's dope. Can I ask you this, Tony? And you don't have to, like, jump on it, but I'm like, when you broke. When you guys look at the Eagles offense, obviously there are some things that you saw that you could take advantage of. When you looked at this offense, what is it that you felt most comfortable? What were you trying to do? Because other than that big run, long run that Saquon had, y' all did a pretty good job of bottling him up. What was your game plan? Was it like, okay, we gotta make Jalen throw from the pocket. We want to push him one way or another. Is there anything in particular that you can divulge that you felt that you guys, okay, we gotta beat on him. We think we know what he's gonna do and let's force him to play to his team.
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Tony Jefferson
Yeah, I think honestly I just felt like, like I said before, from the standpoint of game planning, I felt like we felt comfortable with the matchups that we had, that they were a matchup driven offense. Obviously they want to get the run game going with Saquon and obviously he deserves that respect, but we felt like we were ready for that. And then when we, when we felt like when we were able to get the run stopped, we want, we were ready for Jalen to throw the. We liked our matchups. I mean we had, we had a few pits, few interceptions playing around. Like we was just confident out there. And like we always say, like we're the, we're the wrong team. You want to play on prime time. Like we're ready to go. Like check the record.
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Ocho
Yeah. And you know, I also have another question. For me watching at home, I tell uncle all the time and people in the chat that, that are watching, I'm sure those who have been around the game for a very long time, is it me? And I don't mean I'm not trying to bash the Eagles because I like the Eagles, especially offensively and what they do on defense, but is it me or is the offense very predictable based on what they're doing, based on alignments, based on down and distance? Isn't it for you, doesn't it make your job a little bit easier based on what you see on film week to week and the game that you watch that they played previously, they show the same exact thing where it's almost, well, God damn, I just watched this, I just watched this two days ago. And here, come here, come again. That same, that same short motion. Coming in, coming in, coming in to go out or going out to come in?
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Tony Jefferson
I, I, I, I agree with what you're saying. I, I think they have very strong tendencies.
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Uncle Joe
Oh, you mean to tell me they gonna throw, they gonna throw AJ that go ball or he on the left side with two yards. Oh, my bad. You go.
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Tony Jefferson
I will say politically correct. You know, they're right, right.
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Ocho
Okay.
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Tony Jefferson
They're very strong, have very strong tendencies. And that's something like, like I said, like, I feel like we do a great job with of game planning and really understanding the tendencies and it trickles down from the top and lets us play fast.
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Uncle Joe
When your quarterback breaks. He got breaks a bone in non throwing hand. He has surgery on. I think it's Monday. And then he's gonna have to wear a plate. And he comes back. What type of energy, what type of juice did that bring? Knowing a guy just had surgery, he's a quarterback, and he's not gonna be able to do, like, the typical handoff going to the right. He got a backhanded with his right hand because he can't. You can't open his hand and close his hand like he normally would with his left hand. What did that. What did that mean? I mean, to have your quarterback knowing that, man, this joker just had surgery like a week ago, and he out here on the football field. And you know how physically demanding and how mentally tough you gotta be to play this game.
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Tony Jefferson
I mean, I just start off with. I remember seeing it when it happened in the end of the game, I saw it happen to hit the dude's helmet, and he's doing this. I'm like, oh. And he still finished and completed the game. So they're off. Rip. I'm like, man, like, that's my qb, man. And then come to find out he gets surgery on, I believe, Monday, and dudes out at practice on, like, Wednesday, like, all right, what we doing? Got his glove on and, like, slinging. I'm like, bro, you know what? Like, that. Like that right there is just like, it, like, motivates you, especially as a defense. It's like, okay, like, our QB's out here, like, literally with one hand, willing to fight and die on the field for us, like, it's really something that, like, resonates with you as a defense, man. I know specifically for us, like, we really. We took that serious and to heart.
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Uncle Joe
You know what? I don't think there's a better person to ask than you. What is the biggest difference between Jim and John Harbaugh? Coaching.
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Tony Jefferson
Coaching. Sounds, to be honest, they're really similar. I think, like, both of them are just like, pure football guys. It's. Everything is football. You know what I'm saying? If you go up to Coach Gym and you ask him, you're like, hey, coach, what's up? He'll say football. Like, to him, all their whole family, like, it's about football. And I respect that. I respect it. They're about winning. They take winning serious. And at the same time, they're player coaches. Like, I love both of them. Jim Harbaugh, my current head coach, coming out of high school that was my very first offer. He was at Stanford. I went to a full contact camp. Cause I didn't do none of the 707s and shorts back then. If it wasn't a full contact camp, I wasn't going. Like that's how I wanted to go. Hit something, you know what I'm saying? And me and Harbaugh, we connected that way. Because if you felt the way I played, like we've always just been fans of each other. So I think they're both similar personality wise. I think I always say John's more a little like this, a lot more, and Jim's more like this. So, you know, that's really the difference between them.
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Uncle Joe
I'm looking at your last four games. Yeah, you're at the Chiefs this week in Kansas City. Then you go to Cowboys at Dallas. Then you get the Texans and you know what their defense represents. And then the. For the division. This might be for the division. The Broncos at home. You got the gauntlet, you guys, basically, you win this division, you would have earned it.
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Tony Jefferson
Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt about it. Obviously this weekend, like, we know we're gonna get the best. The Chiefs, we, we are not full, you know, we understand, you know, their season up and down. I was born.
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Uncle Joe
You can deal. You can deal the death blow.
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Ocho
Yeah.
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Uncle Joe
Ab, Ab, you can deal. Hey, you can do something that nobody's ever been able to do since mom has been. Well, they had last time they didn't make the playoffs is God knows when, but they've been to the AFC Championship. Every year that Mahomes been a starter, not only can you not make sure that you can make sure they don't even make the playoff. There's no chance for them to get to the AFC Championship game. Yeah, a lot of teams are counting on you, Tony, to deal that death blow.
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Tony Jefferson
We know, we know, we know we gonna get their best shot. So.
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Uncle Joe
You absolutely will.
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Tony Jefferson
You know, then we go to Dallas and then we're at home against the Texas. We need that, we need that get back. We know what happened last year in the playoffs, so ready for that one too. But yeah, we bro, we're ready. We're ready. We're lifting our tops. We're ready to go play like we're motivated. We're playing good ball right now. Just gotta keep it rolling.
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Ocho
Yeah, you guys are playing good ball on both sides of the ball. Obviously your quarterback just has to be consistent going and going on the back end of the season. Going to the playoffs, you have a superb chance to Win the division, and then probably the division game is going to be based on that last game against the Broncos and how well you guys play and do. And I mean, shit, man, y' all boys balling, man.
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Uncle Joe
All.
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Ocho
Y' all boys ballin'. I. I get a joy out of watching you guys play. Not even offensively, seeing what you guys do defensively. You know, I'm. I'm. Even though I was a receiver, I am. I'm a huge fan of back. Back in play, safeties, DBs, and just understanding and knowing what I'm watching and what you guys are doing and what everybody's responsibility is. So it's been a joy to watch all y' all boys.
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Tony Jefferson
I appreciate that.
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Uncle Joe
Yeah. Yeah, y' all got. Y' all got. Y' all inside backers. They're a little undersized, but, boy, they side. They suck. Impairment.
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Ocho
Oh, damn.
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Uncle Joe
And we know what Khalil Mack is. Khalil Mack, if you need him to set the edge, he can set the edge. You want him to bull, he can bowl. You want him to rip, you want him arm over arm under, he can do all this. What, 45? What's that? What's that? He's a moan on the other side. Yeah.
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Tony Jefferson
Hey, Toby. So gangster, bro.
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Uncle Joe
I love to, bro.
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Tony Jefferson
If I'm in this. In a bar fight, I want to. I want to leave with me.
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Uncle Joe
Well, hey, Tony, congratulations, man, on everything. Hey, you made the right decision. Because here's the thing. You're gonna have other opportunities to be a scout. You don't get another whole lot of opportunity. I mean, you're not gonna get that Philip Rivers treatment. You're not gonna get 44. They gonna call your ass to come play safety, okay? So you make sure you get all of that out of your system, because you're never going to find another job to replace what it's like to have that camaraderie in the locker room, on the plane, on the bus, on the practice field. So you make sure this time you get all of that out of your system, because you might not be at the. Might not be as fortunate to get that call back to come back and play it again, man. But congratulations on having a great season. Stay healthy, and we look forward to talking to you down the road.
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Ocho
Aat. Hey, T, do me a favor. Hey, T, do me a favor. Hey, do me. Tell. Tell Quinn Johnston. Tell him I say, keep that going. Finish the season off strong, man. Keep that going, man, and keep that confidence.
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Tony Jefferson
I'll relay that. Good looking.
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Ocho
All right.
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Uncle Joe
Appreciate it, man. Thanks.
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Uncle Joe
The Eagles positivity rabbit makes a quick exit via Jeff McLean the Philadelphia Inquire. The inflatable rabbit that was installed last week to bring good vibes to Eagle locker room has been removed in the first and only game played with the rabbit in the house. Joe, you ever do some things like this in the locker room to help you break a losing streak?
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Joe Ocho
No, not that I could think of. Not that I could think of.
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Uncle Joe
But you got to get that up.
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Joe Ocho
Out of there, boy. Hey, that was. That was a.
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Uncle Joe
He lost. You gotta go, bro. Yeah, so they gonna.
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Ocho
They gonna blame it on the rabbit.
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Uncle Joe
They blame it on the rabbit.
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Joe Ocho
Yeah, yeah, you gotta blame somebody.
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Uncle Joe
I mean, hey, Ocho, what do you care for good luck? A rabbit's foot. They got a whole big ass rabbit in there. Ain't regular. No, look, you got to go. Yeah. Hey, my brother, we went to the fair and my brother run a rabbit's foot. You know, I used to have rabbit foot keychain, Joe. You remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If my brother want a rabbit foot, run a rabbit foot keychain. If I grab my tuck it and put the house keys on there, I like, I don't know why we got a house key. Ain't nobody gonna bring in this rag. I mean, ain't nobody gonna break it here. Trust me. One time the robber did break in the house, we robbed him. Get your broke ass up out of here. But I mean, they didn't even get a thing a chance though, guys. I mean, one week now, when you.
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Joe Ocho
Lose like that, y' all know, hey, hey, something gots to go.
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Ocho
Hey, Same. Same thing. Same thing with the Raven. You see, they took all them. TV took, TV's out. Ping pong machine, papa shot.
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Uncle Joe
They better put them back in there because they've been losing everything. Hey, they won a couple of games. They've been losing everything. Put them back in there. As a matter of fact, brave for new ones, y'. All. Keep them old ones out, but bring some new ones.
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Ocho
That stuff ain't got nothing to do with nothing.
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Uncle Joe
Man, look here, man, we had a situation where we. I think we lost. This was 94. 94. I think we started the season 04. Damn, man. Joe Ocho, we come to work.
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Ocho
Yeah.
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Uncle Joe
Wednesday, everybody gotta. Got a piece of rope about this long hanging in the locker room. Just hold on to the rope, guys. It's gonna get better.
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Joe Ocho
Hey, when you getting bashed, you gotta find a way to shake things up, man. You gotta find a way to take things up, try to get back on track. That's the hardest part, boy. You go on a losing streak, it seemed like you can't get off it.
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Uncle Joe
You can't. It's the same thing with a winning streak. You see, like when you go on a winning streak, you can't lose. You fight, you kick a field, you kick a walk off field goal. You block a field goal, you do something, a pass interference call to keep a drive alive. Now you able to run out the clock. Oh, it's something. But when you lose, you're like, damn.
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Tony Jefferson
Damn.
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Ocho
Yeah, and it's funny too, Uncle Joe. When you winning, for some reason, luck is always on your side. Because in order to win consistently, you need a little bit of luck. Obviously, preparation is one thing, but for some reason, everything always seemed to go right. The ball always bouncing your favor or the ball always bounce your way. But when you're losing, you don't want.
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Joe Ocho
You don't want to talk. Nobody what we talking about, man. Listen, I know that feeling. I promise you, boy. When I first got here to Atlanta, Uncle Ocho, in 2005, when I first got hit. Atlanta?
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Ocho
Yeah, it was bad, man.
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Joe Ocho
We started off 3 and 28.
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Uncle Joe
Damn, Joe. What?
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Joe Ocho
We start off 3 and 28.
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Ocho
And y' all could have used me back then, Joe.
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Joe Ocho
Well, hey, listen, Uncle Ocho, I wasn't even eating. I'm coming home, going right to sleep. I don't want to hang out. I don't want to do nothing. I can't even enjoy myself. When you lose it like that, you can't enjoy yourself.
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Uncle Joe
You know what happened, Joe? Somebody see y'.
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Tony Jefferson
All.
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Uncle Joe
That's why you lose it. You need to have your ass at the playbook. Damn, bro, I can't get no food. I'm like, bro, I got. Damn, I'm in black.
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Joe Ocho
It's hard, man.
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Uncle Joe
And don't go to no club.
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Joe Ocho
Oh, man.
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Uncle Joe
If you lo. Can you imagine that? Because it ain't like it is now. I mean, I don't know if maybe they still do it. Maybe they still, you know, guy. They still guy at the club. And it's like, that's why y' all lose your ass in the club all the time, right? But it probably. Now, if you at the club, they probably put that thing on social media, Joe. I mean, you got social media. You got platform where people see you out.
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Ocho
Yeah. Take a picture.
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Uncle Joe
Yeah.
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Joe Ocho
It's the world's small now. You can't do nothing, man. I'm talking about nothing. Somebody always watching you.
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Uncle Joe
You right.
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Joe Ocho
Somebody's always watching, bro.
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Uncle Joe
Hey, man, let me tell you what happened to me today, Joe Ocho. Oh, I started to film this. Look at Jordan. You hear Jordan back there laughing? So I go down. Shelley ordered me a Uber. I go down. The guy. The guy's like, Ms. Davis. I was like, yeah, that's me. I go get an uber. We're about 15 minutes in. Jordan called, hey, boss, you got the wrong car. I said, nah. He said, Ms. Davis. A minute later, dispatch call. He's speaker. You picked up the wrong. You picked up the wrong. You picked up the wrong passenger. Yeah, such and such. I was like. He said, Ms. Davis. No, there was another Ms. Davis. There was two Ms. Davis.
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Joe Ocho
Wow.
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Uncle Joe
Oh, yo, how about this, mofo? Pull side the road and put me right out on Santa Monica, man.
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Joe Ocho
Get out of here before God.
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Ocho
And you got out.
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Uncle Joe
I ain't got no choice.
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Joe Ocho
But why didn't take you back to the hotel, man?
- [27:19]
Uncle Joe
I was. I was close to where I was, closer to where I needed to be than driving me all the way back to the hotel.
- [27:24]
Ocho
Oh, so you walk when you had to go?
- [27:26]
Uncle Joe
Nah, Shelley called me another Uber.
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Rob Gronkowski
Wow.
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Ocho
He would have had to drop me off, man. You got me. You got me messed up.
- [27:32]
Uncle Joe
Nah, man, they got. They got recordings in there. And plus, I'm on probation right now, so I had to be on my best behavior.
- [27:37]
Ocho
Hey, okay, I got you. I got you. I got you.
- [27:40]
Uncle Joe
Because that's what I was like, boy. I was like. I said, man, just. Just drop me off right here. He's like, I can't take. He said, I can't take you no further. I was like, Bro, we. I looked at the GPS. Oh, y', all, we like, it's gonna take him 20 minutes to get back to the hotel. It's gonna take himself minutes to drop me off. I say, just tell her to get. To get into the. The Uber. That was for me, right? She didn't want to do that.
- [28:04]
Ocho
Oh, so she. Oh, she wanted him. Okay.
- [28:08]
Uncle Joe
So, man, put inside the road. Hey, hey.
- [28:14]
Joe Ocho
You really ain't got no apps on your phone, do you?
- [28:17]
Uncle Joe
I don't.
- [28:17]
Joe Ocho
No, no, no.
- [28:19]
Uncle Joe
Shelly or Jordan. Like, Jordan. Jordan have a. Jordan have a timer. And he knows, like, after a certain time we about to wrap up, he'll call the Uber. They give us 15 minutes to get, you know, get out there. And so once we take the picture, I mean the thing. But I. I don't. Oh, let me tell you, my other. Look at Jordan laugh. He just laughing. So, you know, in room dining thing, they don't let you call down and order room service no more. You got to scan the qr, the QR code with your phone.
- [28:48]
Joe Ocho
Yeah.
- [28:48]
Uncle Joe
So I, you know, hey, I said, man, oo say, I don't know how to do nothing, man. I done booked me a two night stay at the hotel. That was Jordan laughing. Shelly called me, say, why you booked two nights at the hotel? I said, I ain't booked no two nights at the hotel. I ordered breakfast. She said, you ain't order no damn breakfast. You got two. You got a king suite for two nights next week. Ocho. I thought I ordered me an egg sandwich and some orange juice. Hell no. Now you see why I don't be fooling with the maps? Because all my money, I've been up. I've been spent $200,000 on a flower arrangement. That's why I don't fool with it.
- [29:38]
Ocho
You got to be a little tech savvy, man. We got to send you to a class, man.
- [29:42]
Uncle Joe
No, that's what Jordan here for. Jordan. Jordan went to class.
- [29:46]
Ocho
Okay.
- [29:49]
Uncle Joe
Man, I was like, man, this joker put. Oh, yo, this joker put me out this joke. Pulled right to the side. I said, man, oh, yo, he stopped in the middle of the road. I said, my man, can you pull like right over to the side, man? Damn, that's.
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Ocho
That's not dunk. I know, because the uncle. I know one get down. No car.
- [30:03]
Joe Ocho
Hey, he didn't got soft.
- [30:08]
Uncle Joe
Now, you know. Hey, yeah. Hey, hey. You know, if I wasn't no pro, I'm on probation, don't you? Right? I got to make it to 26. I'm trying to make it to 26 with no mishaps.
- [30:18]
Ocho
Yeah, but you can't let people just take advantage of you like that.
- [30:21]
Joe Ocho
That's all right.
- [30:21]
Uncle Joe
I get on that.
- [30:24]
Joe Ocho
The devil working. Yeah, yeah.
- [30:26]
Uncle Joe
He tried to get. Remember, Ocho, I said patience. What? What? I said patience. I need patience. He ain't gonna give it to you. He gonna put you in situations that require it. Hello?
- [30:35]
Joe Ocho
Hello?
- [30:36]
Ocho
All right, you talking, talking now.
- [30:38]
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Okay, I'm gonna get out. I'm gonna get out now. But you sure lucky caught me in 24. I'd got out, but not after I tore your ass up.
- [30:53]
Joe Ocho
Man.
- [30:54]
Uncle Joe
I said, man, I had. I had a day today, Ocho. I got put out of Uber and I'd order two night and all I tried to get was a breakfast sandwich and some orange juice and I got a two night stay at the hotel.
- [31:04]
Joe Ocho
Hey, did they charge you for canceling your two night stay?
- [31:08]
Uncle Joe
Yeah, Cause I booked it for next week.
- [31:12]
Ocho
They gonna. They need that cancellation fee. They need that.
- [31:17]
Uncle Joe
They ain't getting no cancellation fee. As many nights as I stay here in Jordan, I stay here, man. We was. Sometimes we were staying here like four, five nights in a row.
- [31:26]
Ocho
Okay?
- [31:27]
Uncle Joe
Nah. But I said, boy, I had me a day today. I said, damn.
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Uncle Joe
Jalen Hurst had five turnovers on Monday and the last the last came in overtime to lose the team's third straight game. Booze were also heard during the team's Black Friday home loss to the Bears, and it doesn't take long for discontent among football fans to move to the cause to make A quarterback change. A change in Philly would involve moving Tanner McKee or Sam Howell into the starting lineup. But Nick Serati made it clear this morning that's not something that entertained by the team. I think that's ridiculous. I know every time I go out on the field with Jalen Hurts as our quarterback, we have a chance to win the game. That's something that's been proven. We won a lot. A lot of football games, Ocho.
- [35:43]
Ocho
Yeah, that's a bunch.
- [35:44]
Uncle Joe
That's a bunch of. You see how they turn? You see how did the chain turned on the man?
- [35:47]
Ocho
You see how they play games? Things not going well? You got a quarterback that's been to the super bowl twice. He's been twice and he's won one. He just won last year. It ain't even been six, seven months, huh? It ain't been six, seven months since he won his last Super Bowl. Now things aren't going well. You ready to jump ship? You ready to jump ship till about changing to another quarterback that is nowhere near as talented and gifted as when you got right now and think things are going to change because you switch quarterbacks? Like, come on now. Come on now, come on.
- [36:18]
Uncle Joe
All I know is those same fans that was booing called Cam crazy. Called Cam to everything. But a child of God wouldn't say when Cam said what he said earlier this year. You remember, Ocho, how they jumped on it with both feet?
- [36:30]
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They was on top of him. Hey, listen, pulling this hair, everything.
- [36:35]
Joe Ocho
Yeah, I know.
- [36:36]
Uncle Joe
Philly fans, they.
- [36:37]
Joe Ocho
Hey, they don't play.
- [36:39]
Uncle Joe
Look, they don't want to. They got a Super bowl and I get it. Philly fans, they're hardcore. They love their Eagles, blah, blah. I get all that, bro. Y' all better enjoy this. Yeah, y' all make it seem like y' all just been winning forever. I mean, yeah, you went to the soup, y' all went to the play. You went to the Super Bowl 80, Wander Warskin. You got beat by the Wild Card Raiders and you went again with Donovan, and then you got beat by the Eagles. You went back with Nick Foles and you won. You went back with Jalen. You lost. You go back again and you win, bro. It's hard to win in this league. See what has happened? You know what has happened? The Patriots and the Chiefs got people thinking. Winning every year, winning the division every year, going to the playoffs and going to super bowl, that's. That's easy. That is ain't easy at all.
- [37:32]
Ocho
They made it look easy now. Yes, they did do. They made it look easy, so they're thinking it's possible for everyone else to do it.
- [37:40]
Uncle Joe
No.
- [37:41]
Ocho
Coming off a Super bowl win, man, the chance of you actually repeating is.
- [37:44]
Uncle Joe
Extremely hard because you played the toughest schedule. Every year you get division winners. Every year you already played your division, you get. Now you're going to play your division winners, and now you're going to play another division. So this year, they played the AFC.
- [38:01]
Tony Jefferson
West.
- [38:03]
Uncle Joe
The Chargers, the Broncos, the Raiders and the Chiefs. Next year, who knows, it might be the south, right? It might be the North. You might have to play, you know, the Steelers. Well, that was that. That might have been. That might have been two years ago they played the Steelers or something. But anyway, you're gonna have to play another. No, bro. I mean, for them to even suggest such foolishness.
- [38:26]
Ocho
Hey, you know, that's how I start, though, now. Yeah, it's coming from somewhere. The call and the knock always come from inside the house. Always.
- [38:39]
Tony Jefferson
Man.
- [38:40]
Uncle Joe
Man, Ocho, they better sit down and enjoy this. Yeah, okay. Yeah. The devil you know is better than the one you don't. Oh, that's a good one.
- [38:53]
Ocho
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
- [38:55]
Uncle Joe
You keep on. I mean, look, I get it. You see, hey, you see Josh Allen and you see Mahomes. You see Matthew Stafford and. Oh, I. That's what I want. I want that. I want that. I want that. Okay.
- [39:09]
Ocho
Hey, you said what? You said the devil. The devil you know is better than the one you don't.
- [39:13]
Uncle Joe
Exactly.
- [39:14]
Ocho
Yeah. Hey, that's a good one. Now I'm use that in my next argument.
- [39:18]
Uncle Joe
Nah, why you getting the argument? You'll be looking to argue.
- [39:21]
Ocho
Yeah, so I can use your quotes. What else?
- [39:26]
Uncle Joe
Don't be bringing me your foolishness.
- [39:29]
Joe Ocho
He can't help it.
- [39:30]
Uncle Joe
He can't help it. I get. Man, look here. Me and Cambodia, we got along great. We had a great old time. We was talking, laughing about the fire, you know, she was having a good time. Okay, how you doing? Yeah, blah, blah.
- [39:42]
Ocho
But I need to be able to hit her with these quotes and. And then like, like, I like. I like to sound like Confucius, you know, at times like that, you'll be sounding like confusion.
- [39:53]
Uncle Joe
Why don't you just be right? Why don't you just do the right thing? Why you got a buck so much?
- [39:57]
Ocho
Well, sometimes it's always good to go right, but sometimes I like to go left.
- [40:01]
Joe Ocho
Yeah.
- [40:03]
Uncle Joe
You see what I'm saying?
- [40:04]
Joe Ocho
Hey, you like to be a little combative.
- [40:08]
Ocho
Keep everything balanced.
- [40:09]
Uncle Joe
Joe. No. Oh, don't you like Pete? I mean, hold on. I saw somebody say they've been in a relationship like. Like 10 years, and they've really never had an art. Oh, was that. Was that George Clooney? George Clooney say he been married to him and his wife and never had an argument. I hear Taylor. Taylor, excuse me, Kelsey on his pod say him and Taylor really never had no disl. That's what I want.
- [40:31]
Ocho
Hey, hey, don't you want that stuff? Man, they just be saying stuff. You know, the camera there, people gonna see it and, man, everybody.
- [40:38]
Uncle Joe
Because sometimes you leave a dish in the sink when you could have put in the dishwasher, you left something on the floor when you could have put it up in the basket. I get it. Yeah. It's hard to not have no disagreement.
- [40:49]
Ocho
That's.
- [40:50]
Uncle Joe
That's.
- [40:50]
Ocho
That's.
- [40:50]
Uncle Joe
I mean, zero. I'm talking about zero disagreement.
- [40:53]
Ocho
Oh, you know that ain't true. You know that and that. No disrespect to them. Like, come on now, you ain't gotta. You ain't gonna pull the wool.
- [41:00]
Uncle Joe
You ain't got a lot of us.
- [41:01]
Ocho
Nah, you got a lot of us.
- [41:05]
Uncle Joe
Possible.
- [41:05]
Joe Ocho
It ain't possible to be in a relationship and not argue.
- [41:09]
Uncle Joe
Not have a disagreement.
- [41:12]
Ocho
A disagreement.
- [41:13]
Joe Ocho
Okay, okay, okay.
- [41:15]
Ocho
And most disagreements turn to.
- [41:17]
Uncle Joe
Gonna lead to an argument.
- [41:19]
Ocho
Yeah, Verbal altercation. It happens.
- [41:21]
Joe Ocho
Nah, not necessarily. Not necessarily.
- [41:23]
Uncle Joe
Because here's the thing, Joe. What happens? Let's just say for this. This how it happens. Okay? You are okay. You right. Oh, you right. Oh, you just don't care. You just said I write just to shut me up. No, you're right. No, I ain't right. What have I been right before? You normally. You normally got something to say. I'm saying you right. I was wrong. Oh, now you wrong. You ain't been wrong before, so now you can't win. You wrong. You dead wrong. I'm right. Oh, now you right. Because I said it. See, I knew you didn't mean it. See, now, what could have just been a fight, disagreement. You're right. Right. I got lazy. I put it in the sink when I could have just put it in the dishwasher. You right, babe. You right. Instead of. Instead of taking the trash out of the trash can and put it in a big bag and leave it on the floor, I could have just, you know what?
- [42:15]
Ryan Seacrest
Put it in.
- [42:16]
Uncle Joe
Put it in the big, black, big bag and take it to the trash can. You right. I'm lazy.
- [42:20]
Tony Jefferson
You're right.
- [42:21]
Uncle Joe
I'm lazy. That's that is not like feeling to be lazy. Oh, oh, you just said that. You don't mean it. I know you don't mean it. I agree with you. I could have done that, but I was tired.
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Odoo Announcer
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Ryan Seacrest
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- [42:36]
Uncle Joe
So what could have been something easy. And then I just like, okay, you right now. I, I ain't got no fight in me. They don't rob him a fight. How did they rob you to fight? Right. You, I, I, I used to debate with the best of them.
- [42:54]
Ocho
No, that, that's me. That's me. That's me.
- [42:56]
Joe Ocho
Sometimes it ain't worth it, man, to get you get your water boiling like that. It ain't worth it.
- [43:00]
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
- [43:02]
Ocho
Tell you, Joe, you know you, Joe, if you don't do it often. See, I don't do it often, Joe. I'm not combative. I don't like conflict, Joe. But every so often, every w moon, it's almost like foreplay in a sense.
- [43:15]
Sophie Cunningham
Huh?
- [43:15]
Ocho
You setting it up for later. You set the plate, you know, the call, the play call.
- [43:20]
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [43:23]
Ocho
You feel me?
- [43:24]
Uncle Joe
Yeah. That's the fasting call on the two point play. That's your best call. That's your best call for two. That's your best call on show. Because normally your best call, you gotta, you got. Give me your best fourth down play. You got one, you got two. Not the best one. Okay. Your best two point play. Yeah, that was the best two point play. So in other words, you say, oh, I hope Ocho, I really hope you setting this up. You got something called. I really hope it's a bomb burner.
- [43:51]
Ocho
Yeah.
- [43:53]
Uncle Joe
No, I hope he got something playing.
- [43:55]
Ocho
Hey, yeah, Joe. And it started. This starts. It's, it's. You let it marinate throughout the day. Let it marinate throughout the day. Start something, you know?
- [44:05]
Uncle Joe
Nah, I don't start. No, no joke.
- [44:07]
Ocho
Sometimes you got to do it on purpose, you know?
- [44:09]
Joe Ocho
I'm talking about even if the day going perfect, I'm talking about y' all.
- [44:12]
Uncle Joe
Both having a good day.
- [44:13]
Joe Ocho
You're out of nowhere.
- [44:14]
Ocho
Yeah, just, yeah, Joe just thought something, Joe. No, no, it's like just pull a hair or something, make one of her tracks come out, you know, she got, she got trapped.
- [44:23]
Joe Ocho
No, no, no, we got no track. We ain't got no track over here.
- [44:26]
Ocho
Okay, okay, my bad.
- [44:29]
Uncle Joe
Hey, I'm just me, I just like. Okay, you're right. Just leave it alone. I just, I just, I'm, I don't, I don't really like, I mean, because I, I used to debate for A living. So if I. I don't want to debate. I don't want to come home and debate.
- [44:47]
Ocho
Yeah, you write.
- [44:50]
Uncle Joe
I just want. Hey, I'll say. I said, are you right? Let it go. If I say let it go, just let it go. Yeah, women ain't gonna. Well, the women that I've dealt with ain't gonna let it go.
- [45:01]
Joe Ocho
Yeah. No, sometimes they can't let it go, huh?
- [45:03]
Uncle Joe
They.
- [45:03]
Joe Ocho
They. They try to pull that. That other side up out of you, and then when they come out.
- [45:07]
Uncle Joe
Yeah, they looking crazy.
- [45:09]
Joe Ocho
Yeah.
- [45:10]
Uncle Joe
Oh, oh, oh, you like that? I didn't. I say let it go. I said, babe, let it go. Just let it go. I just let me watch tv. Now you come stand in front of me in the tv. Okay. I go downstairs, I go to the entertainment room.
- [45:31]
Joe Ocho
They coming right down there, too.
- [45:33]
Ocho
Right down with you.
- [45:34]
Joe Ocho
Yeah.
- [45:34]
Uncle Joe
Oh, that's your problem. You don't know how to communicate. You don't have to. I said, but now it's not a good time. Yeah, I'll talk. I said, look, let me calm down. We'll have this discussion. I want to talk. Right?
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Rob Gronkowski
Hey.
- [45:55]
Ocho
Yeah, Hey, y' all gotta. Hey, hey, Joe. Y'. All. And listen, when you eat your food right.
- [46:01]
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
- [46:01]
Ocho
You gotta add seasoning. You got to add some type of flavor. Hey, listen, a little argument, a little debate. That ain't nothing but seasoning. That's all it is. You know, a little salt, little pepper, you know, little paprika.
- [46:14]
Joe Ocho
Yeah.
- [46:14]
Ocho
Ain't too much? No, look, you know, sometimes you get chicken. Add your little lemon pepper to it.
- [46:20]
Uncle Joe
Barbecue sauce to it.
- [46:22]
Ocho
That's all it is.
- [46:23]
Joe Ocho
Do you add a little affection after all that?
- [46:25]
Ocho
Yeah, that's it. That's it.
- [46:28]
Uncle Joe
Oh, so you. You a sex after argument type of guy?
- [46:31]
Ryan Seacrest
Me?
- [46:32]
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
- [46:32]
Ocho
I mean, for the right price.
- [46:35]
Uncle Joe
Yeah, price. Would you.
- [46:38]
Ocho
Oh, you. Oh, you don't charge.
- [46:41]
Uncle Joe
Get out of here.
- [46:43]
Joe Ocho
Yup.
- [46:43]
Ocho
What?
- [46:49]
Uncle Joe
Aber reported that Kevin Stefanski likely likely wants out of Cleveland. The one thing that would be really frustrating for me if the. The coach in Cleveland, you've been trying to make decision for football reasons, and no one will accept them. I can tell you, just knowing the number of people that I know work there. That quarterback situation was handled this year over the last six, seven months in a way that was based solely on how guys were performing, performing in practice, it makes Stefanski look bad now because George played. Well, if you're Kevin and you're making all these decisions based on football decision and you made a lot of other decisions over the Years that were constantly second guessed. This way is constantly at circus. Well, you'd be sick of it had this become, you know, this hasn't worked out for either one of us in the last couple of years. So maybe it's just time. He's 6 and 24. 250. 250 win percentage over the last two years. He's a two time coach of the year. Ocho.
- [47:46]
Ocho
Yeah.
- [47:47]
Uncle Joe
What are you thinking?
- [47:48]
Ocho
I mean, it's tough. I think Stefanski is in a tough spot. Obviously with 6 and 24 having, having, you know, on your resume being coach of the year two times, I think that that saves you and gives you a little bit more grace. But obviously, you know, you can't operate without a quarterback. You can't operate without quarterback. So understanding what we've seen from Shador so far and the stuff and the actions that occurred before he was put in position to be the starter, obviously you always want, you want your best player out there playing quarterback for you. That gives you your best chance to win. And most of the time. I say it all the time, Uncle. You say it all the time. Players get coaches fired. Players get coaches fired. So for a coach, you would always want to be in a position to have players in there that can do right by you. That can do right. Do right by you. Not just you, but your team. Team as well. And give yourself a chance and give you some grace and longevity as a coach. So I'm not sure why they're playing, why the games have been played in general in Cleveland. It's been a damn circus, huh? It's been a goddamn circuit, Joe. So it just, in, just some of the, some of the play call. I don't want to get into all that. We've all seen it. We've all heard it. You know, something's right. And anyone that says it's not right, based on all the evidence that we've seen since the draft up until this point, I mean, you just turn the blind eye to the bullshit.
- [49:12]
Uncle Joe
What, what if there's a situation, Ocho, where Kevin Stefanski really wanted to place your door and he was handcuffed.
- [49:21]
Joe Ocho
But.
- [49:22]
Uncle Joe
Hold on.
- [49:25]
Joe Ocho
You think that's.
- [49:26]
Uncle Joe
That's what it sounds like to me. I mean, if, if we're to believe what Albert Bridge being reported, how much, how much say do we believe? How much say do we believe that Kevin Stefanski have over the final, the final 53? How much say does he have in the draft? How much say does he have in free agency? Does he have Say like say Mike Tomlin, like an Andy Reid, like a Sean McVeigh. He had a Mike Grable. You think he has that kind of say, Ocho?
- [49:59]
Ocho
I would think so. Sean Payton, two time coach of the year would have some say so and, and some of the personnel that he brings in. I, I would think so. And I told, I told on the other night. Right. With some of the things that were going on I felt like basically Kevin Stefanski was basically Nico Harris.
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Joe Ocho
Yeah.
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Uncle Joe
I felt he was taking the fall. Yeah, you did.
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Ocho
He's taking a fall for all for the upper management above his pay grade that no owner came out and said listen this wasn't my pick. I didn't want Shador. So I think he's taking the, the blunt and all the heat and, and his hands are tied. So I mean uncle what you said it might be a possibility we had no control over and maybe he did want him to start the whole time but you know there's a pecking order like we just talked about. Third round pick. Oh well, well he's a third round pick for a reason. So he's always going to be get first dibs no matter what.
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Uncle Joe
And you not know, you're not, you're not normally taking quarterbacks a third and because you're asking for trouble. The last time we saw somebody take a quarterback because look, go back and look at Washington. Mike didn't want to take a quarterback, didn't want to trade that pick. He felt they could sit right there where they were and get the quarterback that they wanted. He really liked cousins and he felt he could get cousins where they got cousins and could be fine. Yeah, you're in salary cap hell because remember that was the year that the uncapped year and everybody dumped all their money in that Dallas and Washington had to pay all that salary cap money because they had dumped all that in a non cap year. And the NFL said nah, you couldn't do that, you're cheating. So they take a quarterback at number two and then they turn right around and take cousins who. How do you think this was going to work out? Ojo, you take a quarterback in the third round and then you take another quarterback in the fifth round. How did you think this is going to work out?
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Ocho
I think maybe, maybe, maybe security. That's the only thing I can think of. Security. Understanding that Joe Flacco was going to only give, only give you so much time left at his age, you know. Okay, we got. But are we sure Dylan Gabriel is the answer? You know what we're not sure, so we gonna take another one.
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Uncle Joe
Why you take it? Huh? You who goes into normally. That's not how you supposed. That's not how you draft, Joe. You don't draft the guy and say, well, he might not be here. If you think he might not be here, why you draft him?
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Ocho
That's a good question.
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Uncle Joe
But, I mean, I'm not going to the store. You buying a car, man, this car might put me down, so. But I'm gonna go ahead and buy it anyway. Yeah, go ahead, Joe.
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Joe Ocho
Listen, but, but when we think about it, statistically, from training camp to preseason, Shedeur has had the best statistics from what we've seen.
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Uncle Joe
Yes.
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Joe Ocho
You know what I mean? So it's like, to me, it almost kind of feels like perfect timing. Like you say Gabriel went. Dylan Gabriel went third, third round, and Shadur went fifth. It's kind of a pick and order. I'm kind of piggyback what Ocho said, but I think Shador has now took the reins, and I don't think he's gonna give it back, man. I don't. I think the young man is. He knows what's at stake. He knows everybody's watching. And, man, he just looked like a guy with a lot of confidence and poise out there. He, he, he looked great on the center.
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Uncle Joe
And if you think about it, Ocho, look at the guys he was throwing to. All the guys that he was throwing to were the rookies that came in with him.
- [53:28]
Ocho
Oh, yeah.
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Uncle Joe
So it's not an accident. Those are most of the guys that he was getting the reps with.
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Ocho
Right.
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Uncle Joe
It's just hard for me to see a scenario. I mean, like, like I said, some people say that didn't happen, but I, I, I've never been on a team where the backup didn't get something. Didn't get at least two reps a period.
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Joe Ocho
Right?
- [53:46]
Ocho
Yeah, always. It's interesting.
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Uncle Joe
I mean, we had veteran. We had a veteran quarterback in Trent Dilfer who backed up Tony Banks, and he still got two reps a period. Yeah, we had a veteran Randall. Randall Cunningham, who backed up Elvis Gerbach, and he still got two reps a period, maybe three. Yeah, I played.
- [54:08]
Sophie Cunningham
Yeah.
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Ocho
Hey, what is.
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Uncle Joe
Was that in 2001 in Baltimore? Hey, that's dope.
- [54:15]
Ocho
I know. Randall was in. I was there.
- [54:18]
Uncle Joe
Yeah, I know.
- [54:18]
Ocho
Random was there, huh? And that's dope, man.
- [54:23]
Uncle Joe
So, so this notion that you wouldn't give a rookie that had the potential to go in the game any reps when veterans that have Been starters have been the Pro Bowls was getting reps is just, I, it was just unconscionable to me that people thought that was okay.
- [54:48]
Joe Ocho
That's what I couldn't, that's what I can understand. Look, if y' all don't understand. I know, I don't know. I'm like, man, I don't know what's going on out here.
- [54:56]
Uncle Joe
Look, yeah, we know every coach, every general manager has their guy in the media when they want to get certain things out. Joe.
- [55:08]
Ocho
Yeah, they know how to get it out.
- [55:11]
Uncle Joe
I'm not saying this is the case, but I'm saying I know that to be factual. So when I want to get something out, I know who to get it to. Sources in the NFL. No, your source with the team told you that. Ain't no NFL. Your sword with the team told you that. I know how it works.
- [55:31]
Joe Ocho
Yeah.
- [55:32]
Uncle Joe
I just like, you know me, I just like to, I just talk because I don't like to get information. I don't. Because I, I be, I, I be using it. And they gonna. Yeah, the person that I'm talking about go, no, I got that from a very, very reputable person. So I just listen, I just let stuff go. I just like, you know, hey, from my, from my personal experience and how stuff go. But y' all best believe. Oh yeah, I'll be knowing. But I mean, he's a two time coach of the year, Ocho. I don't know. Look, the Baker situation, how that worked out, the Shador, how that's playing out, who knows, maybe, maybe they, maybe they want a high draft pick. I don't know. Mendoza, I believe Mendoza is going to win the Heisman Trophy on Saturday.
- [56:22]
Ocho
Yeah.
- [56:24]
Uncle Joe
And he, Ocho, he might turn around and he might be, who knows? Great. Historically great.
- [56:31]
Joe Ocho
Right.
- [56:32]
Uncle Joe
But as I look at him and look at Shador, I mean if Shador had that kind of offensive line protection when he was in college. Are we, Are we sure? Yeah. So I, I don't know if Stefanski want out. Maybe that's a situation where they, they probably want him out. I don't think he'd be unemployed long. I mean, he is a two time coach of the year, Ocho. He is fairly young. But look, they're going to be some openings. What? Well, first of all, we already know they're going to be two openings in Tennessee and the Giants. And the likelihood there might be more. Who knows, it might be one in, in Las Vegas. Damn.
- [57:19]
Ocho
Already? And Pete just got there, huh?
- [57:25]
Uncle Joe
Yeah, just be leaving too. But hey, the thing is, and NFL, remember Ocho, a couple years ago, they said that memo out, man, y' all gotta stop hiring and firing. Because think about it, the John Gruden thing, he got AP on the contract. You guys still got to pay that. Now you got Pete, so you got three guys that ain't coaching for you that you paying. And then if you bring another coach in, you got to pay him. That's for. And staff.
- [57:57]
Ocho
Hey, that's impatience. Impatience.
- [58:01]
Uncle Joe
So it's going to be very interesting to see how this thing plays out, Ojo. But at the end of the day, you know what's in that division. Joe Burrow's in that division. When he's healthy, he's unbelievable. The thing is, is that he does. He's not healthy all the time. Lamar is in that division. I just. Lamar is hurt and, and he's missing throws. And he's not like, he's not running like he once did Ocho, because I think he's afraid he's gonna hurt that hamstring again. And so he, he. Look, Lamar is missing throws that Lamar hadn't missed since his rookie year. Yeah. So in order for you to, to be in that division, your quarterback's got to play well. You got Aaron Rodgers. Now, we don't know if he's going to come back. I, you know, be at 42 and coming back, I don't know. But you gotta, you got, you got to have a quarterback in that division. Just like the afc, the AFC West. You got to have a quarterback, AFC south quarterback. You got Stroud, you got Lawrence, and they had competent quarterback play and, and, and ended for a while until he got hurt. And now it seems like it's going to hell. In the half basket, they had, they brought a granddad out of retirement, so it's gonna, it's gonna be very, very interesting to see how this thing plays out in Cleveland.
- [59:19]
Joe Ocho
Y' all think they gonna sign Philly River?
- [59:22]
Uncle Joe
Oh, yeah, they already signed it. Oh, did they? Yeah. Is he gonna start? That's the question. And the question. If they gonna sign him, he goes, if he gonna start. I'm saying, who else they got they.
- [59:32]
Joe Ocho
Can play in front of him?
- [59:33]
Uncle Joe
They got Riley Leonard, but he got a banged up knee.
- [59:36]
Ocho
Yeah, I mean, he's starting up. He's starting. He started. Listen, hey, hey, Joe. I mean, there's a relationship and an understanding of, of scheme and tactics between Shane Steichen and Philip Rivers. So the, the system, he's very familiar with it. And because he's so Familiar with the system. All it is now and is getting as much timing and chemistry as you can, you know, with the offense and with the players right now. But he's going to start Sunday. I'm not sure out for what he does is he. He. He's giving and hoping and giving that team a chance to keep their head above water because they still have a chance to make the playoffs. And they're just trying to see this. We gonna kick. We gonna kick these tires and. And see what Philip Rivers can do for us, you know, for the rest of the season to see if we can make a run, make a run at the playoffs. And. And he's in there.
- [60:25]
Uncle Joe
They got to stay high because they gave up those two first round picks. Hey, they gave them two first round picks. And the further you fall down the standing, the higher those picks are. Yeah. So guess what? Next year if Daniel Jones doesn't come back healthy until. Because he was dealing with a broken leg and now he's got a torn Achilles Ocho. So he's got to heal two injuries.
- [60:46]
Ocho
Yeah.
- [60:48]
Uncle Joe
Now you mess around it. Now you mess around and be like the India Bowl.
- [60:51]
Joe Ocho
Yeah.
- [60:52]
Uncle Joe
Where the jets gonna get a top five pick.
- [60:54]
Ocho
Yeah. Back.
- [60:54]
Uncle Joe
We might have two top five picks because they gonna look like they might be some sloth because they're looking for a quarterback too.
- [61:00]
Ocho
You know, you right back at square one.
- [61:02]
Joe Ocho
Hey, them injuries gonna take a while to heal, man. You ain't gonna be able to rush Dan Jones back with. With them two injuries right there.
- [61:09]
Uncle Joe
And that was the only reason. That was the only reason they was playing with that broken. I think it was a tibby or lower leg tip. Fibula.
- [61:21]
Ocho
Fibula. Yeah.
- [61:23]
Uncle Joe
So I. That's the only reason playing Joe Ocho and Joe is because they were in prime position to make the playoffs. Make the playoffs. That mean the picks gonna probably be way on down there. 24. Somewhere between 24 and 32. You can live with that. I ain't really trying to get no top 10. No, you know, team pick. No. No early team. No top 10 pick. I ain't really trying to do that for you, bro.
- [61:48]
Ocho
Right.
- [61:50]
Uncle Joe
Because they went all in. When you make that trade for Sauce Gardener, you basically said, I'm all in. I'm jumping on this thing with both feet.
- [61:57]
Tony Jefferson
Yeah.
- [61:58]
Joe Ocho
How long Sauce gonna be out?
- [62:01]
Uncle Joe
He nicked. I mean he got a calf injury. Ain't no telling. And then plus Daniel Jones, it don't matter what Sauce doing. You got to have a quarterback.
- [62:10]
Ocho
Yeah.
- [62:12]
Uncle Joe
Hell, he can't throw the ball.
- [62:16]
Ocho
Yeah, he. He might. He might be 44, but that. That's all you got. And even at 44, man, it's hard.
- [62:22]
Uncle Joe
For me to believe. It's hard for me to believe that you couldn't go. You couldn't. You couldn't scour 31 other teams, practice squad, and say, hey, bro, this is an opportunity for you to start.
- [62:35]
Ocho
Absolutely not.
- [62:36]
Uncle Joe
I mean, they reached out to Sam Ellinger, who's on the Broncos practice squad. He said, no, I'm good. He said, all y' all gonna do is get me over there, and then at the end of the season, y' all gonna cut me. Let me stay right there where I am. I know the system. I'm cool.
- [62:50]
Ocho
Yeah, and hold on. I got one for you. Better. Even if they're all 31 other teams with 31 other backups, how many of those 31 of the backups are better than Philip Rivers, even right now at 44?
- [63:03]
Uncle Joe
Well, we're gonna find out on Sunday, right? And so I want you to bring your ass over here on Sunday.
- [63:09]
Ocho
All right? All right.
- [63:10]
Uncle Joe
Because you listen. You know this. Your spidey senses, even in the off season, from the time that you. From the time your last game until the time you come back, your spidey senses have to heighten. They have to get back in alignment. They don't tingle like they once did. Can you imagine? OO can you imagine? Let's just say for the sake of argument, Oo you30, you don't play the game for five years, and they say, you know what? Oo Come on back out, and you come back out there at 35, boy, you gonna be running through man's own read. They gonna be tear your ass up. You gonna be.
- [63:49]
Ocho
Yeah, I think if anything, he. He might be just a. Be a beat off. That's it. Yeah, you gonna be.
- [63:56]
Uncle Joe
Ain't nothing changed. O ch. It's not like he was running. It's not like he was Michael Vick before he left. No, absolutely. He was stationary. He. He had cement shoes on when he was 25.
- [64:07]
Joe Ocho
Man. He gonna be handing. He f. To be handing that thing off if y'.
- [64:13]
Uncle Joe
All. You see what they did? Is that because they know Daniel Jones can't run like he once did. They stacked the line. They said, no, we're not gonna let. We're not gonna let John JT Beat us. Beat us throwing the ball. They took that away from him.
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