Best of NFL News Part 2: STUNNED Bears TRADING DJ Moore to Bills for Josh Allen MISSING SB LXI piece!, End of an ERA in Detroit after D-MO TRADED to Texans

Summary

Club Shay Shay — Best of NFL News Part 2 [March 7, 2026]

Stunned Bears Trading DJ Moore; Josh Allen's Missing Piece; End of an Era in Detroit With D-MO to Texans

---

Overview

In this energetic, news-packed episode, Shannon Sharpe’s team revisits seismic NFL moves, including the Chicago Bears’ shocking trade of star WR DJ Moore to the Buffalo Bills, the Detroit Lions moving standout RB David Montgomery to the Texans, and rumors swirling about A.J. Brown’s next destination. Ocho and Joe (guest hosts representing the “Nightcap” squad) break down the impact of these moves, speculate on player futures around the league, and address big questions about team building, player contracts, and the critical off-season.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. DJ Moore Trade: Bears Send Star WR to Buffalo Bills

• Details of the Trade ([03:42]):
  • Bears trade DJ Moore and a 2026 5th-round pick to Bills for a 2026 2nd-round pick.
  • Bills had shown interest in other veteran WRs but ultimately landed Moore, reuniting him with OC Joe Brady (his former Carolina OC).
  • Moore brings versatility: top-6 in receptions, yards, and first downs since 2018.
  • The Bills, disappointing in WR yards last season, boost Josh Allen’s arsenal.

Reactions:

• Ocho: Loves the move for both teams, especially Buffalo. Points to Moore’s fit, versatility, and reliability for Allen. Praises Bears’ depth at WR and trust in young talents, such as Luther Burden and Rome Odunze.

“You don’t make moves like this unless you’re sure—Luther Burton showed extreme promise.” ([05:13])

• Joe: Thinks Moore is the reliable target Allen needed: “They got a damn near Swiss Army knife in DJ.” ([06:12])

Implications:

• Bills potentially “back,” per Ocho. The move is seen as solidifying their offense, especially with other pass-catching weapons around Allen.
• Bears’ rationale: young WR talent on cheaper deals, focus on growth and value.

---

2. A.J. Brown Trade Rumors: Patriots or Ravens?

• Potential Destinations ([07:22]):
  • Ocho predicts the Patriots, citing ties with Mike Vrabel and the fit alongside rookie Drake May.
  • Joe agrees, noting Philly’s purported desire for at least a first-rounder.

Notable Quote:

“Just know I said it first…every time I’ve said anything about anybody…been right!” — Ocho ([07:53])

• Fan Reaction:
  • Discusses why fans resist these moves and the emotional toll of seeing favorite players on the block.
  • Considers how AJ Brown and Philly both benefit from moving on, given locker room fulfillment issues.

---

3. George Pickens & the Franchise Tag Debate

• Dak Prescott Comments ([15:18]):
  • Dak says George should “bet on yourself” and play on the tag; hopes for a long-term deal.
  • Ocho, Joe, and Dak debate the risks for WRs: unlike QBs, injury on a tag year can limit future earnings.
• Key Issues:
  • Ocho advocates for Pickens’ financial security: “It’s selfish to not want him to maximize, especially if he gets hurt on the Franchise [tag].” ([20:35])
  • Joe pushes for patience: “Pickens gonna get taken care of. Just gotta come out and ball out.”
  • Both hosts express skepticism about Cowboys owner Jerry Jones truly spending big in free agency.

Notable Exchanges:

• Joe: “You gotta come out and ball out, but we do need to beef up our defense. We need a hell raiser who can get at that quarterback.” ([20:25])
• Ocho: “I'm hoping they gave him the tag to work on a long-term deal… I love the duo, but you also need defense—you can’t stop a goddamn running nose.” ([18:39])

---

4. End of an Era: David Montgomery Traded to Houston Texans

• Trade Details ([23:41]):
  • Detroit sends RB David Montgomery to Houston for OL Juice Scruggs, a 4th-rounder, and a 7th.
  • Ocho and Joe praise the Texans’ backfield and see the trade as a perfect fit to ease pressure off rookie QB.
  • Joe nicknames the Houston backfield “Sonic & Knuckles.”

“He could run through the tackles, he could run on the outside, he’s decent catching out the backfield… lo and behold, 24 hours later he end up in Houston.” — Ocho ([24:40])

---

5. Draft/Combine Anecdotes & Player Development

• Wild Pre-Draft Requests ([29:36]):
  • Joe recounts rumors of an NFL team asking Fernando Mendoza to “get arrested” to ensure draft slide.
  • Ocho reflects on the oddest questions from his draft process (mostly about his multiple college transfers rather than character).
  • Both stress the reality that draft craziness hasn’t changed.

---

6. Chiefs Move On from Juwan Taylor

• Release Details ([31:02]):
  • Chiefs will release/attempt to trade Taylor for cap savings; penalties, not performance, drive the move.
  • Discussion about the Chiefs’ ongoing O-line shuffling and the impact on Mahomes and the offense.

---

7. Rapid Fire: Fun & Lighthearted Segments

• NBA “I’m Here” Moments & Playbook Learning ([35:04], [38:00]):
  • Joe reminisces about being starstruck playing alongside NBA idols.
  • Ocho discusses NFL playbook difficulties: “The number system was easy… my favorite route? Whatever’s called, as long as they played man-to-man.”
• Start, Bench, Trade: RB Legends ([40:42]):
  • Lively debate: O.J. Simpson vs. Bo Jackson vs. Earl Campbell.
  • Joe: “If you grew up in the ’70s and played RB, you wanted to be OJ.”
• Regional Football Talent Hotbeds ([44:22]):
  • Florida & Texas, per Ocho & Joe, produce the most elite talent, with props to Georgia, Cali, and Louisiana.

---

8. Anthony Richardson’s Rocky Road

• Colts Give Permission to Seek Trade ([49:54]):
  • Richardson’s short career plagued by injuries and commitment questions; Colts moving on with Daniel Jones and Riley Leonard.
  • Both hosts emphasize the QB’s need to “make football the #1 priority” for a true comeback.
  • Joe: “You can't be the last one in the building and the first one out…It’s really that simple. They'll get you up out of there.” ([53:12])
  • Both also note how difficult it is for “projects” at QB to develop if teams lack patience.

---

9. Viral Moment: Aaron Glenn “Napping” at the Combine

• Reactions ([61:08]):
  • Social media went crazy over Glenn (Jets HC) appearing to sleep during 40-yard dash drills.
  • Ocho and Joe downplay the moment; cite “long days” and rely on scouts for combine details.

---

Notable Quotes

| Quote | Speaker | Timestamp | |-------|---------|-----------| | “You don’t make moves like this unless you’re sure—Luther Burton showed extreme promise.” | Ocho | 05:13 | | “They got a damn near Swiss Army knife in DJ [Moore].” | Joe | 06:12 | | “Just know I said it first…every time I’ve said anything…been right!” | Ocho | 07:53 | | “It's selfish to not want him to maximize, especially going out there and getting hurt on that Franchise.” | Ocho | 20:35 | | “We need a hell raiser who can get at that quarterback…we struggled this past year in that area.” | Joe | 20:25 | | “If you grew up in the 70s and played RB, you wanted to be OJ.” | Joe | 41:32 | | “You can’t be the last one in the building and the first one out…They'll get you up out of there.” | Joe | 53:12 | | “I wish him the best…I hope he finds somewhere where he can develop…He’s gotta make football his number one priority.” | Ocho (about Anthony Richardson) | 60:04 |

---

Timestamps of Key Segments

• DJ Moore to Bills—Analysis: 03:42–06:46
• A.J. Brown’s Next Team—Rumors: 07:22–08:46
• Pickens’ Franchise Tag Debate: 15:18–21:51
• Montgomery Traded to Texans: 23:41–24:57
• Draft Day/Combine Stories: 29:36–32:22
• Chiefs Release Juwan Taylor: 31:02–32:22
• NBA & Playbook Memories: 35:04–39:10
• Start/Bench/Trade, Football State Dominance: 40:42–44:22
• Anthony Richardson QB Project: 49:54–60:30
• Aaron Glenn's Combine Nap Viral Clip: 61:08–62:17

---

Summary & Takeaways

• The Bills’ bold move for DJ Moore, and the resulting shakeup for Josh Allen, is universally praised—“Swiss army knife” reliability and crucial production.
• The Bears and Lions are clearing the deck for new eras, betting on cheaper, younger talent.
• Heavy debate on the business side of football: Franchise tags, risk, and owners’ reluctance or willingness to spend.
• Anthony Richardson’s journey is a cautionary tale for “project” QBs: talent can’t replace commitment, and NFL patience is fleeting.
• Throughout, the banter is quick-witted, colloquial, and irreverent—Ocho and Joe’s camaraderie makes for engaging, accessible coverage.
• Notable for passionate calls for player empowerment (“maximize your value!”) and skepticism about front office promises.

For fans who missed it, this episode covers all the NFL’s latest blockbuster moves, explains team rationale, and gives a first-hand vibe check on how yesterday’s “superstar” is always one phone call from being the next trade headline.

Transcript

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. It's stock up savings time now through March 31st. Spring in for storewide deals and earn four times the points. Look for in store tags to earn uneligible items from Activia, General Mills, Nature Valley, A and W, Monster Energy, Coffee Mate and Pete's Coffee. Then clip the offer in the app for automatic event long savings. Stack up those rewards to save even more. Enjoy savings on top of savings when you shop in store or online for easy drive up and go pickup or delivery restrictions apply. See website for terms and conditions. Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosures [e-mail] disclosures everyone deserves to be connected. T Mobile and US Cellular are joining forces. Our networks are coming together bringing more T Mobile coverage all over the country. Switch to T Mobile and save up to 20% versus Verizon by getting built in benefits they leave out. Check the math@t mobile.com Switch and now T Mobile is available in the US Cellular Store in Pasco. Bigger network the combination of T Mobiles and US Cellular's network footprints will enhance the T Mobile network's coverage savings versus comparable Verizon plans plus the costs of options, benefits, plan features and taxes and fees vary. Savings with three plus lines include third free line free via monthly bill credits credit stop if you cancel any lines. Qualifying credit required plus support through TE but it feels overwhelming and rushed. Check out orderlymeds.com now orderlymeds.com was built to be different. Here you connect with real doctors who take the time to understand your goals,

[Joe]

review your eligibility, and guide you through

[Ryan Seacrest]

a plan that's right for you. Orderly Meds provides access to proven GLP1 medications like semaglutide and Tirzepatide, including both name brand options and personalized compound versions when appropriate. So you have choices backed by clinical oversight, not guesswork. It's a simpler, more supportive telehealth experience design around people who want clarity, care

[Joe]

and confidence in their weight loss journey.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And your medication is delivered directly to your home in discreet packaging so your

[Joe]

experience stays private from start to finish.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Do your research, ask the right questions, then visit orderlymeds.com podcast for an exclusive offer. Again, that's orderlymeds.com podcast. Individual results may vary. Not medical advice.

[Joe]

Eligibility required.

[Ryan Seacrest]

See site for details. You're listening to a podcast, so you're doing something else too.

[Joe]

Like maybe scrolling home listings on Redfin

[Ryan Seacrest]

saving places you like without thinking you'll get them. Because that's what house hunting has become. But Redfin isn't built for endless browsing.

[Joe]

It's built to help you find and own a home.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Redfin agents close twice as many deals as other agents, which means when you

[Joe]

find a place you love, you've got

[Ryan Seacrest]

a real shot at getting it. Redfin helps turn saved listings into real addresses. Get [e-mail] own the dream.

[Joe]

The Chicago Bears are trading D.J. moore to the Buffalo Bills along with a 2026 fifth round pick in exchange for a 2026 second round pick. According to Albert Brear, the Bills had sniffed around for A.J. brown and Alec Fierce, so they weren't actively looking for a veteran receiver help. They wind up with DJ Moore, who will be reun reunited with Joe Brady, his offensive coordinator in Carolina in 2020 and 2021. The Bills had the fewest the ninth fewest receiving yards by wide receivers in 20. In 2025, with 2107 yards, D.J. moore ranked sixth among wide receivers in receptions, receiving yards and receiving first downs with 392 since being drafted in 2018. Ocho?

[Ocho]

Yes sir.

[Joe]

Excuse me. You like it? You see Josh Allen, you see James Cook, you see DJ Moore, you see Khalil Shakir and Dalton King Cade. Obviously you know Keon Coleman. Joe Brady said it's his job to make Keon Coleman great.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I like the move. Huh? I like the move. Obviously going going with your offensive coordinator. You're familiar with the offense that you ran when you in Carolina. And people need to understand. Some people don't like the move. Some people upset. Oh, why would you. Why would you let DJ Moore go? Hello. Did y' all see Luther Burton play last year?

[Joe]

Thank you.

[Ocho]

You don't make moves like this until you're sure about someone else that's on a much, much, much smaller deal. For one, they wanted to get the ball.

[Joe]

You took Roma Dunze in the first round.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I mean, yeah. I mean, listen, you took Rome with Dunes in the first round, right? But Luther Burton has been out playing Rome. Rome is playing Rome, has been playing good. He got a case of the drops a little bit.

[Joe]

He got hurt, too. Got nicked.

[Ocho]

He got hurt, too, but he's going to be good. But Luther Burton, I mean, he showed promise. He showed extreme promise. And we've talked about it multiple times, and he's popped out on film every time he's played. Every time he's. Every time he played. So I think it's a good move, especially for the Bears. It give Josh Allen another target, another reliable target at that.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Ocho]

You know, and. And DJ Moore, there's some. There's some things that he does really, really well. Great at contestant catches. He can go deep. He can. He can catch shallows. You can catch the bubbles. He can catch underneath intermediate routes and short. And he get jiggy with the ball. So you got. You got your damn near Swiss army knife when it comes to DJ Moore and him being able to do a multitude of things for you offensively.

[Joe]

Hey, I like it. I like DJ More over there with Buffalo. I think it. I. I kind of piggyback what Ocho was saying. That reliable target that Josh Allen has been looking for, I think he has him one now.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You know what I mean? So I'm pretty sure he's happy about that. Yeah. Yeah. Oo get oo oo get the young fella right, boy. Hey. Buffalo might be back and been there.

[Ocho]

Hey, boy, I got. God, I can't wait to see them boys. I think I see them boys in April, too.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Yeah, man.

[Joe]

Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. They just, you know, hey, build on what you got. James Cook still keep running the football. And now you add another weapon with Shakur and Kincaid and Keon Coleman. DJ Moore steps right in. Let's see what they do. Cause I don't know if the Patriots take a step back. The Patriots and the Ravens are the most likely potential trade partners for AJ Brown, per Jeff McLean. Philly is rumored to want at least a first for him. Ocho where do you see A.J. brown playing next year?

[Ocho]

Give me, give me those two teams

[Joe]

again, Patriots and the Ravens.

[Ocho]

I, I, I, I see him going to the Patriots. I, I think it's probably going to happen. He's going to go to the Patriots. Obviously, Stefan Diggs was released today, or maybe it was yesterday. I, I can't, I can't. I'm not sure exactly which day it was, but Mike Vrabel, very familiar with A.J. brown. Very familiar with A.J. brown.

[Joe]

Absolutely.

[Ocho]

I think they're going to reunite again. It will give Drake May another reliable target.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Ocho]

You know, Stefan Digg coming off a great season, you know he's going to end up somewhere else, probably Baltimore, if I'm not mistaken, if my sources are correct. But AJ Brown will probably be with the Patriots. And just know I said it first. And every time I've said anything about anybody going anywhere or anything sports related, I've been right. Every single time.

[Joe]

That's what we do in Nightcap. We get it right.

[Ocho]

Yeah, but Ocho, every time.

[Joe]

Why was everybody so upset at us when we were saying this is going to happen? Man, y' all just trying. Y' all just talking bad about feeling.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

I said, do y' all not see the writing on the wall? Yeah.

[Ocho]

I mean, those are actually fans of the team, so. Fans of the team actually don't want said player to go anywhere, despite the issues and the turmoil that's going on with their team.

[Joe]

Don't you want to be told the truth, though?

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe]

Them Philly fans, Them Philly fans, they

[Ocho]

don't want to hear, but Philly fans don't play.

[Joe]

Boy, you right. Yeah, you're right. But I, you know what? I think it'll be beneficial for both parties. Yeah. I think AJ Needs a change of scenery, and I think they need a ch. They need a new. They need another, Another place and then another guy. And this is two years. Because even when they was winning the championship, he said he didn't get the fulfillment that he thought he was going to get. Yeah. And last year was bad. Last year was bad. Who they gonna replace him with, Uncle Ojo, if they go out, A.J. if Philly give up A.J. brown, who they gonna replace him with?

[Ocho]

That, that's, that's a good right there.

[Joe]

Because if I get a first for him or, you know, they're, there's normally depth at the receiver position. You know, you could normally go in there fishing and get you a DB or, or another. Excuse me. Hey, a wide receiver or running back.

[Ocho]

Yeah, it Ain't gonna be no A.J. brown, though. No, it ain't gonna be that. But you know what you get, you can get.

[Joe]

What's that?

[Ocho]

You could damn sure get some goddamn speed. Yes, you, you get, you get you some speed and hopefully that speed is able to develop into something nice.

[Joe]

I just think the thing is that it puts a lot of pressure on your quarterback. It puts a lot of pressure on your offensive coordinator. When I gotta focus to try to get you the ball. Yeah, I understand. For me, I. I think as an offensive coordinator, you try to get the guy the ball early. But you know, teams know you want to get him the ball early. So what I won't do oo, I'm. I'm a roll the coverage.

[Ocho]

I'm gonna take it away every time

[Joe]

and then I'm gonna force you. And I know the longer it goes and he doesn't get the ball. Well, that plays into my hand. There you go. He says get frustrated. Yeah, that's all I need. I know Ocho want the ball. Hey, I need you the first quarter. First quarter to half. Don't you let OO touch this ball.

[Ocho]

Oh, I'm a touching that.

[Joe]

Joe in the first quarter. I would look on the sideline. Gonna be over there like this.

[Ocho]

Hey. Mad as hell. Hey. I hate, I hate. I remember them days.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. It's stock up savings time now through March 31st. Spring in for store deals and earn four times the points. Look for in store tags to earn uneligible items from Lays Jack Links, Cheez it Classico, Hidden Valley and Best Foods. Then clip the offer in the app for automatic get long savings. Stack up those rewards to save even more. Enjoy savings on top of savings. When you shop in store or online for easy drive up and go pick up or delivery restrictions apply. See website for terms and conditions. Support for the show comes from public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On public, you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index. With AI, it all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year. You can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities. Completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Corporate Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosures [e-mail] disclosures we're lost.

[Ocho]

It feels like we're going round in circles.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I'm gonna ask that man for directions.

[Joe]

Hi there. We're trying to get to the state fairgrounds.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Well, you're gonna take a left at the old oak trees at this here road.

[Joe]

Nah, I'm just kidding.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Let me get my phone out.

[Ocho]

How is there signal out here?

[Ryan Seacrest]

T Mobile and US Cellular are coming together so the network out here is huge. We get the same great signal as the city, saving a boatload with benefits. And there's a five year price guarantee too. Okay, here's the turn.

[Ocho]

Actually, can you pull up the way

[Joe]

to a T Mobile store?

[Ryan Seacrest]

America's best network just got bigger. Switch to T Mobile today and get built in benefits the other guys leave out. Plus our five year price guarantee. And now T Mobile is available at US Cellular stores in Hermiston. Best Mobile Network based on analysis by Oklo Speed test intelligence data. Second half of 2025. Bigger network the combination of T Mobile's and US Cellular's network footprints will enhance the T Mobile network's coverage price guarantee on talk text and data exclusions like taxes and fees apply c t mobile.com for details.

[Joe]

This is Rob Gronkowski and Julian Edelman from Dudes and Dudes with Gronk and Jules.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Here's your reminder to stay hydrated.

[Ocho]

Today, Liquid IV is spreading the word

[Joe]

about the importance of hydration and the potential things to look out for.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Thirst, brain fog, dark urine, nausea, fatigue, headaches and irritability.

[Joe]

Right.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And on top of that, Liquid IV has been a great partner for our podcast. We had a blast at the Liquid IV Nut House 100 and keep an eye out for all the new content that we'll be producing in partnership with Liquid iv. We got some exciting things ahead that you don't want to miss.

[Joe]

Check us out on YouTube and listen to dudes on dudes on the iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You know how it's never really about where you're going? It's about who you're going with like the destination could be totally average, but if the right people are there, it becomes a great memory. Toyota really gets that. Toyota designs vehicles around real life and real people. The ones who bring everyone together and somehow make the drive part of the fun. There's room for all the stuff that comes with luggage, golf clubs, camping gear, plus comfortable seating, smart layouts and space that lets everyone relax. And Toyota's lineup makes it easy to find your match. The RAV4 is perfect for everyday adventures. The Grand Highlander brings serious space for up to 8. With generous legroom and expansive cargo space. The Highlander also has space for up to eight. It's ready for big moments and spontaneous ones. Balancing style and flexibility. And the Sienna is built for everyday life. Carpools, road trips, snacks, spills. And it even has a built in vacuum for when things get a little too messy. Because when people are the destination, your ride is important. Learn [e-mail] and find the vehicle that fits your people.

[Joe]

Dak Prescott spoke about George Pickens and the franchise tag. Let's take a listen to what Dak had to say, guys. Oh yeah, George.

[Ryan Seacrest]

George loves football.

[Joe]

That's the one thing about it.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I just want him to know.

[Joe]

Don't change your love for football.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Don't, don't, don't get in the business mind of this. You played last year on a one year for not even that much, right? So if you can go 30, whatever it is, now thinks it's the same thing I got. So you know, when I'm franchise.

[Joe]

So hey, go do it at the end of day.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Bet on yourself.

[Joe]

He's a hell of a player.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hopefully we can get him long term and sign that.

[Ocho]

But if not, I think the way

[Ryan Seacrest]

that he plays the game and the person that he is, he'll be just fine.

[Joe]

Hey, look, look, I'm, I'm. I'm with Deck on this. I understand. You and Ocho. Oh, man. Pay the man his money. Make sure that man gonna get his money, okay? Ocho, he just gotta do it another year, man. Do it another year for us, then we get that long term, we'll guap you up. You know what I'm talking about? Make sure you straight. But come on, man. Come on. The difference is, Joe, is that a quarterback can get hurt and get his money. You see Josh Allen, I mean, excuse me. You see Daniel Jones? Yeah. Coming off on Achilles, gonna get his money. Yeah. You see first cousins? Yeah. Wide receiver, Any other position. You coming off Achilles, you not getting no big money. All right. Listen, you think a wide receiver can tear his Achilles and still get a top contract? Like, like Daniel Jones or like first cousin? Oh, no, no. I know that ain't possible. I know that ain't possible. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's worst case scenario. That's, that's why you want the long term money. Because the worst case scenario. I'm playing for the worst case scenario.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. You. Joe, you listen, Joe, man, I love you, Joe. I love. I love Dallas fans, too. Dallas fans always been good to me. They got. They kind of been upset at me, you know, because I've been talking about the George Pickens situation and wanting him to leave. It's not that I want him to leave. Dallas fans, I love you. You know, I adore y'.

[Joe]

All.

[Ocho]

Y' all been good to me and I've been good to you, but I'm just understanding. I want y' all to. To separate your love for the Dallas Cowboys because George Pickens is a part of it. I just want George Pickens to be able to get what's best for him. I understand. I understand. No, no, he. No, no, he not. Because I just heard Dak say, bet on yourself. Bet on yourself and do it one more year. I heard him sneak that in.

[Joe]

That's because Dax said he had to go through that. He understands. He.

[Ocho]

Yeah, but it's different because he also understands even if I got hu. When he dislocated his ankles, but he

[Joe]

a quarterback now here.

[Ocho]

Yeah, he can do that. He can do that.

[Joe]

I appreciate that. Oh, oh, what's my favorite word?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Ta da.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, there it is. Hey, Joe. Joe, let's say George Pickens play on that. On that franchise tag, right?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

28, 29, 30 million, whatever it might be, right?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

He go out there and he get hurt.

[Joe]

Come on, man, stop thinking. When you let me finish.

[Ocho]

Let me finish. He get hurt, Joe. He don't had no security. He had no security. Now what I'm hoping for, Dallas Cowboys fans, because I'm a fan of y', all because y' all a fan of me, and I'm a fan of the star. I just don't like the way your owner operates sometime and you shouldn't either. Now, I'm hoping that they had. They gave him the franchise tag to be able to work on a long term deal.

[Joe]

They got into July, I'm hoping.

[Ocho]

Yeah, we got to July. July 14, to be exact, if I'm not mistaken. So I'm hoping. Joe, I'M hoping that's the case because I love the duo. I love having a dual threat. I love Dak having those two weapons, you know, in. In, In. In his arsenal, you know? But one of the things y' all also do need is you need defense. Because now you got all this high power on offense, and you can't stop goddamn nobody. You can't stop a goddamn running nose.

[Joe]

Guess who they remind me of?

[Ocho]

Who?

[Joe]

Ta da. The baby. The damn baby. You talking all that, man? Nobody. Hey, Joe, I'm trying to hear all that.

[Ocho]

Look, hey, Joe, I'm talking. I'm talking good. I ain't being disrespectful.

[Joe]

Ain't nobody trying to hear that. Look, man, look, we need fingers on this tag. We gonna take care. Pickers gonna get taken care of. Ocho. Okay? Ocho, we just gotta come out and ball out. But, yeah, we do need to beef up our defense. We need, like Unc say, we need a hell raiser who can get out to that quarterback. Cause, boy, look at here. We struggled this past year in that area, especially defensively. We got cook. We put up. Yo, you've been to a Cowboys game yet? Nah, I ain't. I ain't been the one in a minute. Huh?

[Ocho]

Man, you ain't no real fan. No real fan.

[Joe]

You gotta chill. Bad joke, everybody. Yeah, the bingo.

[Ocho]

Hey, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Listen, your owner, Jerry said he gonna make a splash. Jerry said he gonna spend money this offseason.

[Joe]

Well, let's see.

[Ocho]

Something that the Cowboys don't give him a chance.

[Joe]

Give him a chance.

[Ocho]

The game. 30 years.

[Joe]

You got the man worried. All he got is his word. He said he gonna spend some money this summer. Man, let's see what.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Joe, I don't know if you've been around, boy. I don't know what rock you've been under, but his word ain't been good

[Joe]

for a long time.

[Ocho]

Yeah, but Cowboys fan, I'm hoping. I'm hoping y' all get what y' all looking for, man, you know, I'm.

[Joe]

I'm.

[Ocho]

I'm here for y'.

[Joe]

All. I'm here for y'.

[Ocho]

All. I'm just telling you my opinion and how I feel. I know your allegiance is to your team and the players that are on it. Therefore, you want said players there. But also, I think it's also selfish to not want him to maximize and get as much as he can, especially going out there and getting hurt on that Franchise?

[Joe]

Come on, man. Stop talking about the man getting hurt. You. You are killing me with this man.

[Ocho]

Joe, we just being. I'm just being honest. You gotta weigh all your.

[Joe]

Oh, Joe, let me ask you this. Hey, Joe, you got insurance? Yeah. Ta da. Why you got insurance?

[Ocho]

See,

[Joe]

listen, man. Look, he gonna be all right. He gonna be all right. I want him to be all right. I want him to get. I want him to get. I want him to get. Hello? 5:25. Hey, if he get 155 million, five years, $160 million, 100 million guaranteed. Ocho, I'm good. Damn, that's number one. He go, he get paid more than CD they got. Well, I got. Hey, I got signed after CD. CD contract. 2, 3 years old. This one brand new. Fresh out the press. Damn. Fresh off the press. All right, we'll get you out of here with this one, guys. It's time for our final season.

[Ocho]

Hold on. I. I'm gonna ask something. I want to go back to basketball real quick. Hey, Joe, you played in Boston, right?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

You know anybody there? How much courtside tickets in Boston cost? Hey, it's not that. It's not that expensive, huh?

[Joe]

Hell, yeah. That's one of the parts. Yeah. You talking about what you think?

[Ocho]

Just. Just give me a number, please. Don't say it's like being at a goddamn liquor game.

[Joe]

It probably gonna run you about 25, 30k for a floor seat.

[Ocho]

Hey, you know what? You know what? Hang up the phone, Joe. Hang up the phone.

[Joe]

I ain't telling no lie to you. Depending on what go to what game you trying to see.

[Ocho]

No, I mean, listen. My baby going back to. She going back to Boston. I'm like, she going back to Boston Saturday. I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna come on down to Boston. And since I don't know what to do down there, it ain't football season. So what's the next best thing that I could do? Maybe go to a Red Sox game. While I'm there, I might as well hit the goddamn Celtic game, huh?

[Joe]

They're in red. They're in spring training. And those not in spring training. Is that the debates? Getting ready for the baseball class?

[Ocho]

Oh, my bad. Well, I ain't. I ain't.

[Joe]

No, but I'm saying what game you want to see? It all depends on what game you want to see. If you trying to see a Lakers or you trying to see you trying to see somebody with better players or better teams, it's going to cost you.

[Ocho]

Oh, well, I did I just, I just, I just want to go to a game. Whatever. Whatever's coming up soon.

[Joe]

Like I'm talking about, you know, you on floor seats. Yeah, I mean, hey, Joe, I'm not,

[Ocho]

I'm not going to no game where my feet ain't on the hardwood, Joe.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, yeah. You're going to be. If two people. Yeah. You're going to be looking to spend lead 30, 40K.

[Ocho]

Well, I tell you what, that's out the door now. Joe. Are we still going to the game March 16th out there in Atlanta?

[Joe]

Yeah, I got you. You know I got you.

[Ocho]

Okay. Are you sitting with me? Right. Our feet on the wood.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, I got you. I know you. If your feet are on the wood, it ain't no good. I like that.

[Ocho]

I like that.

[Joe]

Joe Ocho. Detroit has traded David Montgomery out of the Motor City. The Lions agreed to trade the running back to the Houston Texas. And the Lions will receive a Houston fourth round pick, offensive lineman Juice Scruggs, and a seventh round pick in exchange for Montgomery. The move ends the three year run in Detroit. Will Montgomery start alongside Jameer Gibbs as part of the arguably the league's best backfield duo, officially known as Sonic and Knuckles Ocho? Remember we had a conversation.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Did d mo talk? Did y' all hear that from me?

[Ocho]

But hold on, what did I say? Chat? What did I say last night? Where would be the perfect place for him to go? You know, I mean, looking at the landscape, you know, what teams you can go to, you could take some of the pressure off of the quarterback, you know, so we don't have to drop back 100 times the goddamn game because you have a quality running back. You can hand it off to someone that's decent.

[Joe]

Boyfriend go over there.

[Ocho]

Hey, he could run through the tackles, he could run on the outside, he's decent catching the ball out the backfield as well. Hell, maybe Houston. That's. That's the right call. And lo and behold, Joe, 24 hours later, he end up in Houston.

[Joe]

That boyfriend eat over there?

[Ocho]

Oh, absolutely.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. It's stock up savings time now through March 31st. Spring in for store wide deals and earn four times the points. Look for in store tags to earn uneligible items from Lays Jack Links, Cheez it Classico, Hidden Valley and Best Foods. Then clip the offer in the app for automatic event long savings. Stack up those rewards. Rewards to save even more. Enjoy savings on top of savings when you shop in store or online for easy drive up and go. Pickup or delivery restrictions apply. See website for terms and conditions. Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosures [e-mail] disclosures we're lost.

[Ocho]

It feels like we're going round in circles. I'm going to ask that man for directions.

[Joe]

Hi there. We're trying to get to the state fairgrounds.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Well you're going to take a left at the old oak tree at this here road.

[Joe]

Nah, I'm just kidding.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Let me get my phone out. How is there signal out here? T Mobile and US Cellular are coming together so the network out here is huge. We get the same great signal as the city, saving a boatload with benefits. And there's a five year price guarantee too. Okay, here's the turn.

[Ocho]

Actually, can you pull up the way

[Joe]

to a T Mobile station store?

[Ryan Seacrest]

America's best network just got bigger. Switch to T Mobile today and get built in benefits the other guys leave out. Plus our five year price guarantee. And now T Mobile is available at US Cellular stores in hermiston. Best Mobile Network based on analysis by OOKL of Speed test intelligence data second half of 2025 bigger network the combination of T Mobile's and US Cellular's network footprints will enhance the T Mobile network's coverage price guarantee on talk text and data exclusions like taxes and fees apply. See t mobile.com for details. You know how it's never really about where you're going. It's about who you're going with like the destination could be totally average, but if the right people are there, it becomes a great memory. Toyota really gets that. Toyota designs vehicles around real life and real people. The ones who bring everyone together and somehow make the drive part of the fun. There's room for all the stuff that comes with togetherness. Luggage, golf clubs, camping gear, plus comfortable seating, smart layouts and space that lets everyone relax. And Toyota's lineup makes it easy to find your match. The RAV4 is perfect for everyday adventures. The Grand Highlander brings serious space for up to 8. With generous legroom and expansive cargo space. The Highlander also has space for up to eight. It's ready for big moments and spontaneous ones. Balancing style and flexibility. And the Sienna is built for everyday life. Carpools, road trips, snacks, spills. And it even has a built in vacuum for when things get a little too messy. Because when people are the destination, your ride is important. Learn [e-mail] and find the vehicle that fits your people. When people turn to telehealth for weight loss, they're looking for real support. That's why more people are choosing orderlymeds.com orderly meds connects you with real doctors and access to proven GLP1 medications like semaglutide and Tirzeptatide. No guessing, just a more supportive experience. And all ship directly to your door in discreet packaging. Do your research, ask questions, then visit orderlymeds.com podcast for an exclusive offer. That's orderlymeds.com podcast. Individual results may vary. Not medical advice, eligibility required. C site for details.

[Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Joe]

They need it.

[Ocho]

They needed.

[Joe]

Yeah, because I don't think. Ocho, we talked about mixing and that injury, they didn't seem very positive that he was gonna have an opportunity. D' Amico didn't seem very positive about him being able to return. This seemed like a ser. A pretty serious injury because he missed. I think he missed the entire season.

[Ocho]

He did, yeah.

[Joe]

An NFL team reportedly told Fernando Mendoza to get arrested. So he slides in the draft and they can draft him. What? Ocho, what was the craziest thing you were asked during a pre jab?

[Ocho]

Oh, that's a great question. Golly, that's a great question. It's a great question. It's one that I can't remember because I can't remember some of the questions I was asked that long ago. Oh my God. That's two. That's 2,000. God damn, that's a great one. Yeah, I don't think even during my draft process, I think The. The craziest thing I might have been asked is, why the hell did you bounce around to so many schools? That's. That's. That's about it. Not. Nothing personal. No one took any shots at me, you know, as far as for, you know, character issues or. But they thought it were character issues for me bouncing from school to school.

[Joe]

Right.

[Ocho]

But it wasn't really.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Joe.

[Ocho]

It wasn't really about me getting in trouble and just the fact that my grades were ridiculous. And obviously I had that one fight at Langston University where I got thrown out, but outside of that, it was nothing for him, just school. I told them. I told all scouts. I told all GMs, Listen, I just want to play football, man. I didn't want to go to class. I didn't want to. I didn't want to go to school. That wasn't my focus. And I felt I was good enough. I could skate by. By being great at football and, you know, put school last.

[Joe]

Right.

[Ocho]

I told. I told the truth.

[Joe]

The Chiefs informed right tackle Juwan Taylor that he will be released before the start of the NFL's new year, barring a trade. According to Adam Schefter, the move will save the Chiefs $20 million against the salary cap and allow them to be under the cap when the league's new year starts March 11. While Taylor was productive in pass blocking, he struggled with penalties, committing 49 penalties. 40. Excuse me. He committed 49. Ocho, 41 of them accepted. In 45 games with the Chiefs, the most of any lineman during that time. No one is surprised by this move. We knew he was going to be a candidate to be released or a heavy restructured pay cut, reduced salary. So I don't think anybody's surprised by this move.

[Ocho]

No, not. Not with the belief. Not with the way he played, especially last year. I mean, that many penalties always costing your team. He put them in. In very bad situations consistently, you know, throughout the season. So I know they're looking forward to probably drafting somebody. I'm not sure if they're going to move somebody else to the right tackle position.

[Joe]

Well, I think they gonna move. I think they're gonna move somebody. Cause you remember Simmons that they took with Ohio State, kid who played really well, and then he had some personal issues that he had to get resolved. He's gonna go to left tackle, and they had a guy at left tackle when Simmons were out.

[Ocho]

I think they're gonna bump to right tackle. Yeah, but he was bad.

[Joe]

And so, you know, obviously, Trey Smith, who's a Perennial law pro. He'll be back at right guard. Creed Humphrey. Who? Creed. Creed Humphrey, who's one of the premier centers in all of football. He's back the man down the center. I don't know who they're gonna have at left guard, but I think they. You know, they need a running back. They need a running back, and they need some wide receiver, and they're the one thing. Look, if. If we do know if love is there, they're taking love. You just got to hope somebody don't zoom up, go get him and take him. Yeah, but, yeah, they. They got some. They got some issues, and hopefully my home is on track to be able to go. They might put him on the PUP list. We start to see that he missed the first four games of the season, but we'll see how that plays out.

[Ocho]

I got an X. I'm talking about the X from way. I'm talking about way, way, way back. You hear me?

[Joe]

You talking about Twitter. That's the only X I know. Twitter.

[Ocho]

No, no, no.

[Joe]

Oh, oh, you talking about. You talking about. Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

In 2000, from 2008, you know, I was out with Andre Johnson, right? And she had the nerve, you know, to come up to me and say, oh, I see. You still the cheapest man in the world. You know what I told her?

[Joe]

What you tell her?

[Ocho]

I ain't buying it.

[Joe]

What, you wanted to drink?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Nah, I ain't buying you, man. Stop playing with me, man. Get up out my face, man. Like, come on. Now we talk about. It's been what, 10, 15 years?

[Joe]

She thought things had changed. Ain't nothing changed.

[Ocho]

I still. I'm still tight with the E pocket. Still tight.

[Joe]

You've never. You. You've never. You've never bought an extra drink?

[Ocho]

No, I mean, once. Once things. Once that, you know, once it's over, it's over. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, if I'm with you, I ain't even. I ain't really spending like that. So if you gone, you definitely ain't getting nothing.

[Joe]

But I'm saying you would buy a drink. I mean, go out. You go out with the ladies. You say, I want to drink. If Cambodia say, nah, so you ain't buying Cambodia.

[Ocho]

She can get the whole bar.

[Joe]

But that's what I'm. That's what I'm saying.

[Ocho]

But I mean, we. We. We.

[Joe]

We.

[Ocho]

We won. We's a union. But I ain't seen you in damn near 10 plus years.

[Joe]

That's what I'm saying. I say you Buy your girl if she was your late. Your lady, you'll buy her a drink. You're just not buying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

I'll play that.

[Joe]

Okay, okay.

[Ocho]

To me, that's like lightweight disrespect. But then. Then how you are you still the cheapest man in the world? Yeah.

[Joe]

Ain't nothing change. Yeah, yeah. Filthy McNasty for ISO. What was your I'm here moment in the NBA? What did you want to play? Who did you want to play with but never had a chance to. Do you believe DC Will ever be a threat in the East? Much love to all. No, the last one. No, the Wizard's not gonna be no threat, but go ahead. They not gonna be no threat. But to. To be honest with y', all, man, I. I got a chance to play with. I got a chance to play against pretty much all my idols that I grew up watching and. And. And admiring their games. Whether it was Jordan, whether it was Penny. I played with Penny Hardaway for two years. Phoenix. Yeah. I played with Tracy McGrady for a year. He came to Atlanta. He played with us here in Atlanta. You know, I mean, those guys were everything to me growing up. Them big, tall guards, like, so just getting a chance to compete, getting a chance to get some wisdom from them, you know, I hung out with Penny when we played in Phoenix, like, go over. He had a big old house in Scottsdale. Uncle Ocho, about $10 million I'm talking about. It's just him living in there. He had kids at the time, but they weren't living. Living with him at that, man. Lived in 10 million dollar house by himself, man.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Damn.

[Joe]

We used to invite. I had. I had. My partner Zeus should live with me. He used to invite us over to watch the games. E. He had a chef, the whole nine, man. I. I had a good. My career was great, man. Hey, the NBA don't owe me nothing. You know what, Joe? Now that I think about it, I forgot. Anthony Davis got traded to the Wizards also, so him and Trey might be able to do something. I forgot AD Was it was in the Wizards. Well, well, now, you know, it just depends on what is mine, what 80 mindset gonna be like coming back, you know, hopefully through everything he's been through, you know, coming to Dallas, coming to camp overweight, you know, getting it. Regulating that weight, getting his weight right, and coming in the camp ready to play, man, if. If. Because I think Trey gonna be ready. I think it's gonna be up to 80 and what he's capable of doing. But they got some great pieces, man. They got a chance to be special, you know, to have a quick turnaround, but it's gonna be depending on their key players.

[Ocho]

Hey, and Joe, y' all didn't even get that last one. You know that was a joke, right?

[Joe]

What joke?

[Ocho]

Yeah, my girlfriend said I'm the cheapest man in the world. What did I say? I ain't buying it. You don't get it.

[Joe]

You said an X.

[Ocho]

Same thing. I ain't buying it.

[Joe]

I got.

[Ocho]

I got one more good. I got one more good. But not yet. Not yet.

[Joe]

When we get towards Jay, 1984 out. Uncle Nocho, what was the hardest thing to remember in the NFL playbook? And what was y' all favorite play to run?

[Ocho]

Oh, I mean, you. Yours was verbiage, huh? Yeah, I mean, for me, it was pretty easy. For me, obviously, in Cincinnati all those years we had the number system, so the number system was pretty much easy. And my favorite route to run, it really didn't matter what was called. I prefer people play man to man. They play press or sometimes double team because Carson and I, we'd always check to a seven route whether they were playing two man or whether they just playing cover two in general. I always had a way to beat that coverage. Obviously, a man to man, trying to think. I mean, the. The routes were so. I mean, the. The route combination was so simple. I write. I write 628, I write 5, 5, 5 20s, 520. I. It's. It's so easy. So easy. Number system was easy.

[Joe]

It's easy if you've been doing this your whole life. Yes. Because the thing is with the playbook is that they install. You go practice that, and then you don't go back over what they install. You remember, and then you on to the next day install, and then you're on to the next day install, and then you're on to the next day. So if you behind, it's so hard.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Effing up, that was the hardest things like, you know, you had been in the system. I mean, the plays that you had run in college, I run those plays because I had the same coach for four years, so I didn't have to ever learn a new system. And then you get there and everything. The hardest part was it was backwards. 2468, from the time you was this big, was to the right. Yeah, well, in Denver, 2468 was to the left. Ocho 1, 3, 5, 7 was to the right. So they said. So they say, you know, a 15 you're going to the left. No, you to the right. Since when is 15 an even number? Even to the right. Odd to the left. Shannon, are you paying attention? Yeah, I am. I know y' all effed up this. Triple X cop sanity every time ISO is on is welcome to Nightcap feature Unc Ocho and still See. There you go. Hello. Man, can y' all stop acting like that?

[Ocho]

I'm just saying they getting carried away with it now, Joe, man, they.

[Joe]

They eyes are not deceiving them. They know what they seen. Okay?

[Ocho]

I mean, that was. That was two weeks ago, Joe. That was two weeks. That was two weeks ago.

[Joe]

That's all they got to go out for, Ojo.

[Ocho]

All right. All right.

[Joe]

Terrence G. Start. Bench. Trey Bo Jackson. Earl Campbell. O.J. simpson. Damn. Look, we know what OJ What OJ Was accused of and all that other stuff, but the football player, everybody wanted to. If you grew up in the 70s and you played running back 32, you wanted to be. Yeah. Now, I ain't telling what somebody. I ain't telling what somebody told me. I'm telling. Everybody wanted to be him. The Juice, and he was the first black. Had major commercials in movies. Movies. He had hurt. He had car commercials. He had the orange.

[Ocho]

It was him.

[Joe]

I would. I would start. Me. I'm starting o.j. I'm a bench. Oh, am I wanna. I don't want to get rid of. You're gonna have to, because I know you ain't gonna bench.

[Ocho]

Both. No. Cut. Cut. Both.

[Joe]

Cut. Cut. Both. No, you gotta start. Bench.

[Ocho]

Trade. Cut. Same thing.

[Joe]

You're gonna trade Earl. You gonna trade Earl? Yeah. Y' all don't see. Y' all too young to remember Earl. I remember Earl. The Tyler Rose.

[Ocho]

Hold on, Earl. Which. Which Earl? And with the Oilers. Yeah.

[Joe]

Yes. Love you blue. The 1977 Heisman Trophy winner. He goes to Houston and he's a three time. Hey, Ocho. He's a three time offensive player of the year.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

He all they had. Well, they had. They had Ken Burrows, double zero, I think they had Mike. Mike Renfro. I'm trying to think who was the damn tight. He had, but damn, he got a nice defense, too. They had a Dr. Doom, Elvin Bethe, Curly Culp. Ah,

[Ocho]

yeah.

[Joe]

Start. I'm gonna start O.J. i'm gonna trade. Come on, now. Come on, now.

[Ocho]

Well, it shouldn't even take this long.

[Joe]

It does. Yes, it does. Because, look, I only got. You only got. First of all, you only got two years of both in the NFL. What the Hell y' all talking about?

[Ocho]

I mean, we talk about Bo.

[Joe]

Y' all better go back. Y' all better go back.

[Ocho]

I didn't see him in the powder blue oiler jersey with the white helmet running. Running through people's chest. I remember jersey torn off. Still move. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I'm.

[Joe]

It's tough. Nah, I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm a bench bow, and I'm a trade Earl.

[Ocho]

That's what. There you go. There you go.

[Joe]

But

[Ocho]

you ain't

[Joe]

Juan Palafox, 1997. Ocho, what are your three favorite quotes by Unk that you've written down?

[Ocho]

I don't got. I don't got my pad in front of me now.

[Joe]

Bring the pad on Wednesday. Uncle Mike. 1988. One time for the nightcap squad show held me up in some dark days. Which state has produced the best football players, Texas, Cali or Florida?

[Ocho]

Florida and Texas.

[Joe]

Gotta be Florida and Texas. Hey, y' all be sleeping on Georgia now. Georgia got some good ones now. They produce them.

[Ocho]

Y', all, y', all, y'. All.

[Joe]

Texas and Florida. Wherever it's warm at. Wherever it's warm at. If you want to look at the best players.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Go where it's warm. Yeah.

[Ocho]

California got some dogs, too.

[Joe]

Yeah, it's mad at 22:15. All hell king ISO. Hello. Hello. The O show for calling the trade destination with Debo yesterday. Fellas, are y' all going to any World cup group matches?

[Ocho]

I'm going as many, as many as I can hit.

[Joe]

Kitty Fresh. Hey, Ocho. ISO, Have y' all watched every day? I am. I've watched y' all every day. I would like a shout out to my fiance. Breach. She has successful surgery to get a defibrillator in her chest. Breach. I think. I think it's Breachy. Rishi, your fiance wants to tell you how proud he is of you and how thankful he is for you. And here at Nightcap, Ocho and I and the entire Nightcap family want to wish you a speedy recovery. We know you're going to do just great, and congratulations on everything, guys. Look forward to seeing you guys walk down the aisle.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

I wrestle, I win. Ocho, act like a grandma when you on the phone, when it's lighting with that nightcap sign. Bobby's World. Let's do a nightcap. NCAA bracket winner gets something autographed from the big three. Ocho, what you thinking? What you thinking, Joe? Oh, yeah. Oh, y' all gonna lose that one. Don't do.

[Ocho]

Don't do that Joe.

[Joe]

There you go. There you go, Joe. I'm just keeping it real.

[Ocho]

I mean.

[Joe]

No, you're not keeping it real. Ocho gonna pick mascots because he ain't gonna know. If math ain't math. It was a person would be me. Yeah, man, me and math. I don't know what it is, man. They start talking about the pie root, and you got five different ways you could solve a problem. Nah, we Alan Fletcher oo enroll at FAMU and let me do your schoolwork.

[Ocho]

How much you charging?

[Joe]

Gonna try a few grand. Ocho, don't you want to do the own work? Yeah, I'm gonna do.

[Ocho]

I'm gonna do it myself. I don't really need no help because, I mean, whoever it is, they ain't gonna be smarter than me. No way.

[Joe]

Big Mike. Oh. Can you explain when Tyson fought Andrew Galata, why he just walked out of the ring, man? He hit Andrew Galata so hard. Andrew lottery. We tried to get him to go back in there. Galata said, man, I'm done. You all take them leave. Tyson said, well, I'm done with this, man. That man ain't gonna fight. Let me go. Rory, underscore two ads. Thanks for the free entertainment up at Cap A lot oo Keep it a buck. With all the money the Cowboys got in free agencies, all the money the Cowboys got free, they gonna need all defensive players they can get. Yeah, you're right. Yes. The new corner. They need a stud. They need a stud as a middle backer. Somebody who can. Who can. Who can. Rick Havoc. Somebody gonna go get that?

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, Joe. I know that's your team, right, Joe? But if you look at. If you look at what Jerry Jones has always done every off season, when does he ever spend in free agency? When does he ever make a big splash?

[Joe]

He said this. You're gonna be different.

[Ocho]

He's Joe. Jerry never spends a free agency. Jerry never makes a splash. He makes a splash with his own players, and he waits until the last minute to make that splash, but he's just never done it. And going to acquire someone from the outside in free agency and brings them in, that can make a huge difference, and this would be the year to do it. Now, he always says a lot of things that he's going to do, but he never fulfills them.

[Joe]

He, he, he's. He. He spent early, you know, he went, got ta t o. You remember Ocho, he gave her two first rounders to get Joey Galloway. I think the thing is, is that he's kind of been Burnt with some of the free agencies that he's gone. It's not. It's who you get in free agency.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Joe]

And so he's kind of missed and it's kind of got him gunshot. So he's kind of heavy right now, but I'm gonna take him at his word. On Joe, he said he gonna spin.

[Ocho]

Okay, I know, I know. I know. Who he going to get then, if that's the case.

[Joe]

Righteous. Cato, Louisiana. Got some dogs too now. They do, they do. They do. Yeah. I mean, basically it's. It's Florida, Georgia, Texas, Cali, Louisiana. Then you probably go, what, Ohio? I would say that a lot. Ohio normally have linemen.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

We. The southern states normally have the speed guys, wide receivers, running back. D's. Yeah. Texas. The quarterbacks, Cal quarterbacks. Because, you know, you got two guys. You got Stroud and you got Bryce Young and you got Jaden Daniels. Yeah. So. Ocho. The Colts have given Anthony Richardson senior permission to seek a trade. His agent told ESPN. The former 2023 fourth overall pick has made 15 starts for the Colts, throwing 11 touchdowns, 13 interceptions while battling a string of injuries, including a shoulder surgery, a fractured orbital bone and vision issues following the procedure. The Colts are expected to move forward this year with Daniel Jones and 2025 draft pick Riley Leonard at 1 and 2. Ocho.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Well, you think. Where you think Anthony Richardson ends up?

[Ocho]

Oh, that's. That's a good question. That's a good question. I mean, what. What teams are willing to. To develop Anthony Richardson and, and allow him to. To be a backup? I mean, that, that's, that's. That's the part. I don't know. I'm sure there's someone, some team that might give him a chance. But hey, that's. That's tough. That's tough. You understand the quarterback position, it's a premium position.

[Joe]

Yep.

[Ocho]

And it's. It's very, very important. So I. I'm not sure. I mean, your guess is as good as mine. Who's willing to give him a chance. That that's the only thing.

[Joe]

And you might have to go be a backup for a couple of years, you know what I'm saying? Because we look at Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold left. He went to Carolina. That wasn't a great situation for him. Remember Ocho, he went to San Fran before he went to Minnesota.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And he said it was there where he learned how to play the quarterback position.

[Ocho]

Yes.

[Joe]

So now he goes to Minnesota. Parlays. That plays really well, goes to the Pro bowl, and boom, that wasn't enough to convince the. The Vikes to keep him. He goes to Seattle in the next year, wins the Super Bowl.

[Ocho]

Damn, man, that's. That's.

[Joe]

I think a lot of it's going to be contingent on Ocho. How much do I have to give up for Anthony Richardson? I mean, the best you can probably hope for is a fourth round pick, right. You're not getting the first. The top five pick, and three years later, you getting up off. And four years later, you're getting up off him. O4.

[Ocho]

He had the coast, you know, he had the coats right in the palm of his hand.

[Joe]

Huh.

[Ocho]

You know, I mean, he kind of forced their hand in a sense with some of the issues that were going on internally that we didn't know about. Obviously, I've heard about him and obviously his play on the field.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Like. And then Daniel Jones comes in and takes the team that we thought there were issues. And look at. Look how things turn around.

[Joe]

Ocho, when you had the conversation, I said, this is gonna be an issue. And everybody jumped on us, man, you old school, man. Let that man live. Let him breathe. I said, guys, you don't understand how locker room works.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You can't do some of the things that he's doing. I'm not. Look, I. I don't want to beat the young man up, but I'm just telling you the mindset. They paid this man a lot of money, and you think that you can be the last one in the building and the first one out. You think you can take yourself out of the game, and that's just gonna be okay. See, I think you guys are looking at it from. You not looking at it from a team perspective. You're not looking at. From a competitive perspective. Okay. You work a regular job or. Joe, you know, hey, well, hey, I'm tired. I ain't going into work today. Or. Yeah, I got. I'm gonna leave work. You can't do that in the NFL. You can't. Yeah, because you, you can, but they gonna get you up out of there.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Don't get you up out of there. It's really that simple, Ocho. It's really that simple.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And the mere fact, Ocho, you a rookie and having a team meeting to have to talk to you. I've never. I honestly. Oo. I've never heard that before. You played a long time. I played a long time. And we stayed around the game. I've never heard of a team having to have a Meeting to talk to a, a rookie.

[Ocho]

Not, not that position.

[Joe]

And the quarterback.

[Ocho]

Not at that position. No, absolutely not. That's the one position you shouldn't have to worry about. You shouldn't have to worry about.

[Joe]

No, but you can't. Everybody can be replaced. Right? You just hope it comes later than sooner.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Sooner.

[Joe]

Yeah, but they will. They'll eat that money. Whatever they gave him 30 million guarantee. They'll eat that and write it off.

[Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Joe]

We've them teams, they take on 80 million, 100 million dead cap.

[Ocho]

They don't care.

[Joe]

They don't care.

[Ocho]

They don't care.

[Joe]

They don't. Hopefully he bounces back and, and gets an opportunity. Sometimes Ocho, you have to, you know, you have to go through something to, to. To really appreciate it. I think he really appreciates the game of football. Now he dealt with some injuries. The shoulder injury that. You know the freak accident with the band pops him in. His eye fractures orbital and he has a vision issues after that. I think his. His agent said everything division is healthy, is healed now, everything is good to go. But maybe this is the wake up call that he needed. I sure hope so. Yeah, I sure hope so. I think he got put in. He got put in a bad situation. I thought he was a project coming out, watching him at Florida. Yeah, yeah, I understand all the measure with Ocho. You talk about somebody 6 4-65-245 running 4 4, could throw the ball standing, long jump, all vert. All of that.

[Ocho]

That's a great.

[Joe]

All that stuff does not equate to playing the quarterback position.

[Ocho]

Yeah, that's a great estimate.

[Joe]

Who cares? Let me ask you a question. What are you going to be doing the Superman jumping over the top Right now if you go, if you got a. Something like the tush push where Jayla hurts. 600 pound squat comes into effect.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Joe]

For the quarterback with a 40 inch vertical. What good is that gonna do me? Unless he had the one yard line going over the top like Walter Payton.

[Ocho]

Right, you're right. Right. But listen, that was a good project to have based on the measurables that it was a great project to have. It just. I don't think they. I can't say they didn't give him time to develop because they did their due diligence.

[Joe]

Let me ask you a question.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

They still fix it on your grandma house? When you ask Chauncey. Did you put Chauncey up? You couldn't move right back in there, could you?

[Ocho]

Nah.

[Joe]

Because it was a project. You see. He was a project and they tried to get into play right away.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Joe]

You didn't develop it. So now if you take time, possibly develop him the right way. You said he was a project. Everybody said he was a project.

[Ocho]

Yeah, they ain't got that kind of patience, though.

[Joe]

Well, you should have left him alone.

[Ocho]

Hey, they don't have that kind of patience.

[Joe]

We should left him alone. Yeah, if it Ocho, I get a car. Ocho, this is a fixer upper. What I look like trying to drive it when it put me downside the road on the interstate. And I'm mad. Man, this man, Ocho, this mofo put me downside the road. Well. Oh, you said it was a fixer upper. Yeah. So that means you got to take time to fix it up. He's a project. That means you got to invest time in him to get him up to par.

[Ocho]

But they can invest time because the longer you wait. You understand what's coming up soon after that third year?

[Joe]

I do. Boy, they ain't let Patrick Mahomes play his first year. He damn sure can wait.

[Ocho]

Yeah,

[Joe]

You moved him up. I. It's hard for me to see a scenario, Ocho. Now, I don't know and, and. And who. I forget who was in front of him, but it's hard for me to believe based on what he was when he actually got in the game. He had shown you enough in training camp and mini camps and OTAs. Right? Yeah. This guy deserves to start right now. It's just hard for me to see that scenario. And so when I look at it like that, they didn't do him. They didn't do him any favors. And, and he didn't do himself any favors. Yeah, you got it. That position, you got to know everything frontwards and backwards.

[Ocho]

Every position.

[Joe]

You got to know what you're doing. You got to know what everybody on. You got to know what the offensive line, man. Hey, look at man. I know we supposed to be going rip, but the man listen this. And let's throw hot. Let's throw hot at the guy coming in my face, not the guy that's going to drill me in the back. Not only do you got to know what pause. Not only do you got to know what you have to do. Not only do you have to know what the quarterback. You have to do what, what the entire offense. You better know what that defense doing.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah, you got to.

[Joe]

You better know what they doing. Oo, you got to. But I just hope the young man. I hope the young man finds a home. Somebody have some patience. And, and he develops that somebody develops him. But see, the problem is Ocho, is that if I trade for him, I got to take the contract.

[Ocho]

Yeah,

[Joe]

I like him. I ain't in love with him. I like it. I mean, man, man, I, man, I like, man, I like this outfit. If it was 500 cheaper, I like the quarterback, Ocho, if I could get him at minimum. So. But I think, I think the first, like the first fight, the contracts are guaranteed, so.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yep. It is what it is. I wish, I wish him the best, though. I hope you find. Find somewhere, you know, where he can develop and what he has to do is, is. Is he has to make football his number one priority. I don't think football was the number one priority. It wasn't from what I'm hearing. It wasn't. I. He has his, his. His past, his other passions, and he's putting those other passions before the game of football.

[Joe]

Not when you young coming in get you about to get you about 10 years in the league. Yeah. Then, Tommy, if you go back and look at most of these guys, they didn't really do nothing until they were really, really established.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Joe]

You got to win something first, bro. You can't be trying to get in all the commercials and you ain't won nothing. Right. I get it. You know, everybody. Oh, man, you man gotta have something, man. You got to do something. You can't be football 24 7. Well, if you play that position and you want to be good at it, it better be.

[Ocho]

And everything, everything else will take care of itself after that.

[Joe]

There you go. The NFL Network cameras captured Aaron Glenn, the Jets head coach after three and 14 rookie season, appearing to nap as prospects like Texas Tech. David bailey ran the 40 yard dashes. This obviously went viral. Ocho, is this a big deal or no? I mean, they make it a big deal, huh? They gonna make it a big deal?

[Ocho]

Yeah, I mean, they gonna make it a big deal. I mean, Mr. Glenn. Mr. Glenn was obvious. Obviously sleepy. Try to, you know, try to. I don't call them naps. I call her. A quick little blink. He took an. Yeah, he took an extended blink. I don't think it's a big deal. Obviously, it's not just you there as a head coach. Obviously you have a team of people there to let you know if there's anything that you. You're doing your homework, you have.

[Joe]

Scouts are for.

[Ocho]

I mean, yeah, you. You have everybody you need to there. So I'm. I'm sure people will make it a big deal because you Are the head coach. Honestly, it's really not. Man, get, get. You get your little nap in, whatever it may be. It's a long day. You've had a long day. People don't know what goes in and entails in. In being a head coach and all the hours that they put in, the stress around draft time.

[Joe]

You up early.

[Ocho]

Long time.

[Joe]

Cause you got your me. You probably got your. Your meeting with your staff before you head over there. So they probably up at the crack of dawn. They got meetings with players. You know, you get your players that you want to talk to, okay, Have a conversation with them. For the most part, they're not gonna be like time, because, you know, you have meetings, obviously time's gonna come off the board. Yeah, time go. They call the Giants call time in there. Time sitting down. He looking around. He like, hold on. What y' all pick? We pick 15. He's like, no, I ain't gonna even be there. Hey, what.

[Ocho]

What pick? The prime. Where'd the time go?

[Joe]

Pride with five.

[Ocho]

Okay.

[Joe]

Pride with five.

[Ocho]

Well, hold on. Who the hell went in front of him?

[Joe]

Troy Aikman.

[Ocho]

Okay.

[Joe]

Tony Manderich. Barry Sanders. Derrick Thomas.

[Ocho]

Prime. Okay, understandable, understandable, understandable, because they got.

[Joe]

Because they got. Yeah. Four of the first five in the hall. Yeah. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey, Tony Mandarich. What happened?

[Joe]

Oh, broderick thomas.

[Ocho]

Yes.

[Joe]

Can you name the guys that went after. After prime? Hold on. Where did they go? I know, bro. He went to Tampa. Steelers. Steelers. Who went to the Steelers?

[Ocho]

What year Was that draft?

[Joe]

89.

[Ocho]

Oh, God damn.

[Joe]

Okay, give me the next day. I'll come back. Diego Chargers. The Chargers. Char Burman. Yes. Miami Dolphins. Oh, but. Oh, Rich. Oh, no, no, no. Rich was. Came out my draft. Reb Came out my draft. The Dolphins. Not sweet lou oliver. Did he. Oh, sammy. Florida state. You remember sammy smith? I played with sammy. He ended up. We ended up swapping. Trading bobby humphrey for sammy smith. Sam ain't want to do number play. Tonk.

[Ocho]

Oh, I ate.

[Joe]

Who else?

[Ocho]

89. Draft went to cleveland.

[Joe]

Yeah, the steelers. Okay. They took tim worley and lars tate. Where did lars tate go? Did lars tate go to tampa or do with. Because all them was in the same backfield. Tim Worley, Lawrence Tate, Rodney Hampton, Hamp. Came out my draft went to the Giants.

[Ocho]

Hey, it's some good.

[Joe]

Lars. Lars.

[Ocho]

It's some good picks in this first round. I ain't seen some of these names in a minute.

[Joe]

What? Lars Tay go? Where'd he go? He had to be in that draft. He wasn't in my draft. Are you an 88? He came out my brother then. Wow. I didn't know that. It's Lars. I was like, damn, David Bailey, he put on a show too. Ocho from Texas Tech. Yeah, yeah, he put a show on today. But look, anytime you're cold, you're gonna make a big deal out of it. So you just have to be mindful. The camera's looking to catching everything. They looking to catch everything, bro. So you just gotta, you gotta, you gotta be mindful. You gotta be mindful.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. It's stock up savings time now through March 31st. Bring in for store wide deals and earn four times the points. Look for in store tags to earn uneligible items from Lays Jack Links, Cheez It Classico, Hidden Valley and Best Foods. Then clip the offer in the app for automatic event long savings. Stack up those rewards to save even more. Enjoy savings on top of savings. When you shop in store or online for easy drive up and go pickup or delivery restrictions apply. See website for terms and conditions.

[Joe]

Everyone deserves to be connected.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's why T Mobile and US Cellular are joining forces.

[Joe]

Switch to T Mobile and save up to 20% versus Verizon by getting built in benefits they leave out.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Check the math@t mobile.com switch and now

[Joe]

T mobile is in US cellular stores.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Savings versus Comparable Verizon plans plus the

[Joe]

cost of optional benefits.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Plan features in taxes and fees vary. Savings with 3 plus lines of include 3rd line free via monthly bill credits.

[Joe]

Credits stop if you cancel any lines.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Qualifying credit required. You know how it's never really about where you're going. It's about who you're going with. The right people can turn any drive into a great memory. That's something Toyota really believes. They design vehicles around real life and real people. The ones who make plans happen and bring everyone together inside. Everything's built with passengers in mind. Comfortable seating, smart layouts and space that actually works so everyone can relax and enjoy the ride. There's room for the people, room for the stuff, and room for the moments that happen along the way. Because when people are the destination, your ride is important. Learn [e-mail] and find the vehicle that fits your people.

[Joe]

This is Rob Gronkowski and Julian Edelman from Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules. Here's your reminder to stay hydrated today.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Honestly, I needed that. I'm feeling a little foggy.

[Joe]

That's your body talking. Brain fog is one of the potential signs of mild dehydration. Did you forget that already?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Maybe for a second, but I know the others. Thirst, nausea, fatigue, headaches, irritability, and dark pee.

[Joe]

There you go. And Liquid iv, Sugar free is clinically demonstrated to hydrate faster than water alone. It's backed by a scientific advisory board. Real experts.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Are you saying we're not real experts?

[Joe]

I'm saying you're an expert at picking the best flavors.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Sugar free. Strawberry.

[Joe]

Watermelon.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Wrong. It's sugar free. Mango. Pineapple.

[Ocho]

Liquid IV is here to help you

[Ryan Seacrest]

with everyday extraordinary hydration.

[Joe]

Stay hydrated and stock [e-mail] use the code nuthouse for 20 off your first purchase. At CVS, it matters that we're not

[Ryan Seacrest]

just in your community, but that we're part of it.

[Joe]

It matters that we're here for you when you need us, day or night. And we want everyone to feel welcomed and rewarded. It matters that CVS is here to

[Ryan Seacrest]

fill your prescriptions and here to fill your craving for a tasty and, yeah, healthy snack.

[Joe]

At cvs, we're proud to serve your

[Ryan Seacrest]

community because we believe where you get your medicine matters.

[Joe]

So Visit [e-mail] or just come by our store.

[Ryan Seacrest]

We can't wait to meet you.

[Joe]

Store hours vary by location.