Best of NFL News Part 2: Unc & Ocho WARN the Jaguars to be CAUTIOUS playing Travis Hunter BOTH WAYS in 2026, OBJ BACK to the Giants?!

Summary

Club Shay Shay – "Best of NFL News Part 2"

Date: April 4, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe ("Unc") & Chad Johnson ("Ocho")
Episode Theme:
This episode dives deep into major NFL news and rumors—from Tom Brady’s whispers of unretirement and Odell Beckham Jr.’s potential Giants return, to bold warnings about Travis Hunter’s two-way NFL usage, blockbuster player trade predictions, and the looming NFL officiating labor dispute.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tom Brady’s Unretirement Rumors

• Context: Brady, now a minority owner of the Raiders, reportedly considered unretiring, but the NFL squashed the idea.
• Discussion:
  • Consensus that Brady’s minority ownership complicates any return: "Being a minority owner ruins the possibility of actually coming back." (Uncle, 03:08)
  • Ocho questions how the league could technically prohibit it, concluding, “If he wanted to come back, he'd divest his shares. Tom Brady don't talk about it. Tom Brady does.” (Ocho, 08:06)
  • The hosts doubt Brady ever seriously intended to return, noting his lucrative Fox contract and long-term investments outweigh another NFL stint.
• Notable Quote:
  • “If Tom Brady wanted to actually do something… he doesn't talk about it. He just does.” (Ocho, 08:06)

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2. A.J. Brown and Miles Garrett Trade Rumors

• Context: Persistent rumors about trades involving A.J. Brown (WR) and Myles Garrett (DE).
• Discussion:
  • Sharpe suggests A.J. Brown’s time in Philly is ending: “He will be somewhere else now. Where he will be, I don't know. But I can see the scenario…” (Uncle, 11:44)
  • Ocho believes a blockbuster package could see Brown to Cleveland and Garrett to Philadelphia: “We can give you AJ and two firsts, or we can give you Jalen Carter and two firsts.” (Ocho, 13:26)
  • Excitement about pairing Garrett with Eagles’ talent—“That’s gonna be Miles Garrett to the Eagles, Ocho said it first. I just beat Adam Schefter.” (Uncle, 14:25)

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3. Odell Beckham Jr. Back to the Giants?

• Context: Giants coach John Harbaugh confirms internal talks about a potential OBJ reunion.
• Discussion:
  • Both hosts agree OBJ could help as a veteran presence and mentor, especially for young wideout Malik Nabers recovering from injury.
  • “We don’t need you to be that guy… Be a viable option for Jackson Dart. That’s it.” (Uncle, 15:32)
  • Reflections on OBJ’s career, missed Giants legacy, and the sometimes overlooked value of staying put.
• Memorable Moment:
  • Nostalgia for OBJ’s early career—“Sometimes the best place for you is right the hell where you are.” (Ocho, 18:44)

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4. Kyler Murray’s Fit with Minnesota Vikings

• Context: Vikings’ plan to tailor the offense around Kyler Murray.
• Discussion:
  • Sharpe praises the move: “I like the fact that Justin Jefferson gets a quarterback… not just stationary.” (Uncle, 20:03)
  • The guys agree both Murray and Arizona needed a break; a fresh start could rejuvenate his career. “Sometimes O is just good to get a fresh start. Sometimes a breath of fresh air is what we need.” (Ocho, 23:08)

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5. NFL Officials' Labor Dispute & Replacement Refs

• Context: The league plans to train replacement officials if CBA talks fail; echoes of the 2012 “Fail Mary.”
• Discussion:
  • Sharpe argues replacement refs would undermine integrity: "If you have replacement refs, there are going to be mistakes and many more than what we already have..." (Uncle, 39:13)
  • Ocho calls out the NFL’s spending habits: “You want the most affordable… revenue keeps going up expeditiously.” (Ocho, 39:13)
  • Key issue: Officials’ lack of traditional medical benefits—a major sticking point.
• Notable Quote:
  • “They pay out as little as they possibly can, be it players, be it officials…You want the most affordable.” (Ocho, 39:13)

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6. Travis Hunter’s Two-Way NFL Role – A Caution for the Jaguars

• Context: After knee surgery, Travis Hunter is expected to spend more time in Jaguars’ OTAs on both sides of the ball.
• Discussion:
  • Sharpe admires Hunter’s talent but sounds the alarm: “For him to be actually great, he has to play one position... I’m excited, but hopefully he puts on more muscle” (Uncle, 32:32)
  • Ocho says, “I’d be cautious... That’s a lot of taxing, that’s a lot of planting, cutting, going one way, and that's a lot of backpedaling... I would just say be cautious.” (Ocho, 33:38)
  • Emphasizes the high price Jacksonville paid trading up: “He has to be every bit of what you thought you were getting when you traded that pick.” (Ocho, 34:52)

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7. College Football Private Jet Spending – For Laughs

• Context: Schools’ private jet budgets for recruiting.
• Discussion:
  • The hosts poke fun at Wyoming’s low spending—“They must just drove that thing around the hanger just cranked it up and backed it out.” (Ocho, 44:17)
  • Lighthearted banter about Oregon/Oregon State and state-of-the-art college facilities.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Tom Brady:
  "If Tom Brady wanted to actually do something… he doesn't talk about it. He just does." (Ocho, 08:06)

• On OBJ:
  “We don’t need you to be that guy… Be a viable option for Jackson Dart. That’s it.” (Uncle, 15:32)
  “Sometimes the best place for you is right the hell where you are.” (Ocho, 18:44)

• On Hunter’s Caution:
  "I’d be cautious... That's a lot of taxing, that’s a lot of planting, cutting..." (Ocho, 33:38)

• On Replacement Refs:
  "There are going to be mistakes, and many more than what we already have..." (Uncle, 39:13)
  "You want the most affordable… revenue keeps going up expeditiously.” (Ocho, 39:13)

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Important Timestamps

• Tom Brady Rumors: 02:42 – 09:12
• A.J. Brown & Miles Garrett Trades: 11:44 – 14:45
• OBJ Back to Giants: 14:45 – 18:34
• Minnesota Vikings & Kyler Murray: 19:00 – 23:21
• Travis Hunter Caution/Jaguars: 32:32 – 37:06
• Replacement Officials: 38:27 – 40:53
• College Jet Spending Laughs: 44:17 – 47:09

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Tone & Style

The episode maintains Club Shay Shay’s signature blend of sharp NFL analysis, candid storytelling, and lively banter—full of playful jabs, veteran insight, and “Unc & Ocho” chemistry. Both are blunt with their warnings and opinions ("Child, please." "I wanna leave here with my original hips."), keep the conversation moving, and aren’t afraid to speak on business, legacy, and life lessons between the lines.

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Summary

If you missed this episode, you got expert-level NFL prognostication, honest player evaluations, and real talk about what happens both on and off the field—plus laughs about college football’s quirks and the realities of NFL labor business. Where major football stories break, Unc & Ocho are there first, and they make sure their audience is always a step ahead.

Transcript

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[Ocho]

Tom Brady, who last played in 2022, has since become a minority owner with the Las Vegas Raiders, revealed that he explored the possibility of unretiring a second time, but was rebuffed by the league when he broached the subject. I actually have inquired. They don't like that idea very much, so I'm going to leave it at that. We explored a lot of different things, and I'm very happily retired. Let me just say that, too. I like that, Ocho.

[Uncle]

I like it a lot. I think, obviously, being a minority owner kind of ruins the possibility of actually coming back. But I'm more concerned with if you do come back, who would have been the team you would have come back to play for? Because the Bucks, they're solidified with Baker, who I think, yeah, is going to get a big deal this offseason. I think at some point, obviously the. The Patriots quarterback situation is solidified as well. So if he was to make a return we're actually with, Brady would have been playing.

[Ocho]

He want to go somewhere where they got weapons. Yeah, I know that man ain't great because he. He ain't trying to go nowhere where he, you know, he want to go somewhere where they already got some. Some good receivers, maybe even a good back, you know, some weapons he can use to his advantage. And y' all know what that said. My question is, well, what type of offensive line he gonna have? Brady ain't gonna be able to take his last year, Atlanta. Why not? I just want to know where he go. Who's the offensive line? Because you saw how easy he was going down his final year in Tampa. He doesn't want to get hit. As you get older, you're less. You. You want to get hit less and less. I think now he's three, four years removed from taking a. A final hit. He. He. He just still got the itch. Uncle Oo. He love to play, man. You can tell. Well, he better go up against a wall and scratch his back like we do in the country. You know, you go against the wall, you. Yeah, okay. Hey, I get flag football and they talk about, oh, look at Brandon Dodge gets rushed.

[Uncle]

Okay, that's. Child, please.

[Ocho]

Hey, man, Brady say he take good care of himself, man. Y'.

[Uncle]

All.

[Ocho]

Y' all saying he can't. Yeah, he does, but he ain't you. He ain't had a 280 pound man fall on him in four years. He can't follow him no more. You gotta brace yourself now.

[Uncle]

Oh, yeah, you sure can't hear. You sure can't put your weight on the quarterback, huh?

[Ocho]

Hey, but the 15 yard penalty, he probably. He can't take that. He can't take punishment, bro. And Brady was not mobile. So you got to go somewhere that has an outstanding offensive line. Actually, the best offensive line in football last year were the Broncos. They got both Knicks. What a good defense. It sounds good. I think Brady got us talking like, oh, Brady could come back. Y' all need to stop this.

[Uncle]

Hey, listen, if the NFL had allowed it, even though he's a minority owner, how did.

[Ocho]

Let me ask you a question. How do they stop you from unretiring? What did they say? Tell me what. Tell me what they can do to stop. If somebody. If some team want to sign him, tell me what they can say to make you to say no. They might have discouraged it, but how do they stop him from unretiring you? Him not having his. His sponsorships and all that.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

What sponsorship? Yeah, he gonna have to. He gonna have to put that. That 37 million that he's making per year for Fox. But guess what? Fox will hold that job for him until he comes back because he's Tom Brady. Now, again, I'm gonna ask Ocho. Ocho, tell me what the NFL can do to say, you know what they. They, like I said, they might. Can discourage you. But if a team signed you, how do they say no?

[Uncle]

Obviously, uncle, if you're a minority order for a team, I don't.

[Ocho]

You'd have to divest that. We understand that. You'd have to divest your interest. You can't be a minority owner.

[Uncle]

That would be the only. That would only be the only way they can discourage it. Is he going to want to divest that? Probably not. Probably serious about coming back. Hell, forget that goddamn ownership.

[Ocho]

That's the thing. Because if he was serious about coming back, he'd have did that first. You'd have heard Bright Brady divested Shares with the Raiders. That would have signaled us what, just like when. When Miles Garrett quietly reworked the language in his contract. What did that signal Ocho? There's a possibility that Miles Garrett might get trade. I don't think he. I don't think he would, you know, get out his deal with the Raiders or give up his percentage until he knew for sure it was a chance. But what.

[Uncle]

But right. The right.

[Ocho]

You make $37 million a year. Think about this. You make $37 million a Year. You work 20 weeks a year. You got up, you bought 5% of the Las Vegas Raiders. That's gonna pay you whatever you. Whatever the 5% was, whatever you put up, you're gonna get. You're going to make your 5% back in 5 years to come back and play what, one more year?

[Uncle]

Maybe that's. Maybe that's what he want, huh? I mean, you. I mean, it makes sense to you, but in his position where with money at this point, I mean, we talk about Tom Brady.

[Ocho]

You know why I know it didn't make sense to him? Because he didn't do it. He didn't do it because if he wanted to do. When does something ever stop Tom Brady from doing what he wanted to do for the. For the longest time. And I don't. We're not going to bring it. You're not try to. But for the longest time his ex wife wanted him to do what Ocho come home, retire, and he kept doing what. And there's probably a pretty good chance that that might have cost him his marriage. So if Tom Brady wanted to actually do something. Tom Brady don't talk about it. Tom Brady does.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

So you're right. I mean, you're making that kind of money, but. Okay. And like I said, Fox would have hold that job. They would put Olson, who does a great job. They'd have put him back in the number one spot until Tom Brady came back. Came back. And then Todd didn't put Tom right back in the number one spot and also would have been to the number two spot. But the likelihood of him being able to get in the Raiders at the price that he got in, say what, two years ago, probably wouldn't have been there.

[Uncle]

So I know one thing where they smoke this fire. If the conversation is being had, he must have been serious about it.

[Ocho]

No, because if he was serious about it, he did that best of the shares. He ain't divest them shares. See, the Browns. See the Browns are potentially serious about doing what? Moving Miles, Gary, Ocho. Because they did put this because they didn't want that dead money on their cap. What good is that on show if I got, if, if we trade him, but we got $29 million of dead cap space. Let the Cowboys or let the Eagles or let the Bears or let whoever trade for them. Let them deal with that cat, not us. And they, and I think the Browns are coming to the realization, like, as great as Miles is, I don't know if we can win with just him. We need a lot more pieces than Miles Garrett. We, we need like four Miles Garrett, but we need another one on defense and we need three more on offense. I'm not saying Miles Garrett per se, but I'm saying a Miles Garrett player. So. It doesn't matter. OO it doesn't matter how great you are. The NFL is not supposed to. It doesn't matter how great you are in basketball. The NFL, guess what? They didn't stop when Jordan retired. They didn't stop when Kobe retired. They're not going to stop when LeBron retired. They're going to keep making money. And I don't care how great the player is. The sports league, yes. Babe Ruth retired. Hank Aaron retired, Barry Bonds retired. Every great player you know has a shelf life. And guess what? They keep booking. Every man up. They keep booking. It is what it is. It's the harsh reality of it, no matter how great you are. On to the next. Eventually, on to the next high. Roseman had a stock answer for every question about A.J. brown that he fielded from the local media. I understand there's an interest in A.J. brown's story. I unfortunately have a home under a rock. But in my answer to any question on AJ Is, AJ Brown is a member of the Eagles. From my perspective, anything you ask me about A.J. i'm going to write back to that answer. But I understand the interest. I put it on TV and I see there's interest. But my answer is A.J. brown is a member of the Philadelphia Eagles.

[Uncle]

He going to keep going. Listen, he going to keep it politically correct. You expect him to say that? You know, he's not going, he's not going to pour gasoline on the fire, you know, but we, we, we, we, we know. I think, I think A.J. brown, time is up. You know, in Philly, he did his due diligence while he was there. He's frustrated with the offense. He's frustrated with his usage. I think, I think he will be somewhere now. Where he will be, I don't know. I don't know. But I, I can see the scenario and I'm telling you right now, chat. When it comes to me guessing and and, and foreseeing the future on where players are going, I'm like 10 for 10. I'm like 10 for 10.

[Ocho]

Chad.

[Uncle]

Now you know that I really think A.J. brown will probably end up in Cleveland and I can see Miles Garrett going to play meaningful, meaningful football and being being in the playoffs this year with the Eagles. I'm telling you now, now if I'm lying, I'm flying and I'm sitting right here in my chair.

[Ocho]

I. It's. It's just hard for me to see a scenario where he is with the Eagles. I think there's a greater percent a greater chance that he's not on the Eagles, that he is with the Eagles. I think what Dallas did last year was pick up pickings after the draft. I think, you know, I think Dallas will. I think the Eagles really want to hold on to that. Want to hold on and see Cleveland. What y' all really trying to do now because you know, we can make it worth your while.

[Uncle]

Are you.

[Ocho]

We can give you AJ and two player two first or we can give you Jalen Carter in two first. We can make it worth your while because we just signed George Davis. You got Hunt. I think that's what the guy. Last year. I think Jordan Davis outperformed Jalen Carter. So Miles Garrett. Jordan Davis got on the other side with Braun, Cooper, Dijon. They got Wolf, they got Mitchell.

[Uncle]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Wallen.

[Ocho]

That's where he left Seattle.

[Uncle]

That's where he went.

[Ocho]

Oh yeah,

[Uncle]

I like that. Yeah, I like that. I think it's gonna Miles Garrett to the Eagles. Osho said it first. I just beat. I beat Adam Schefter.

[Ocho]

Giants head coach John Harbaugh confirmed that the team has discussed a potential reunion with free agent wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. Said if Odell is an option then we'll be looking at him for sure. Harbaugh and OBJ remain close relationship after coaching him in 2023 where he had 35 catches, 565 yards and three touchdowns. OBJ hasn't played since 2024 and was suspended six games in 2025 for PED violation. Both Jackson Dart and Malik neighbors have reportedly told the team they support adding him. Oo look and I think he made some spectacular catches in yeah he moving moving real well. I think that got people can he help the Giants or just just a few?

[Uncle]

I think he could help the Giants especially what he could do. Listen, we, we don't need you to be that guy. We don't need you to be Odell Beckham that made the one hand catch. What we do need you to do is be a viable option for Jackson Dart. That's it. You know, as a veteran presence in that locker room, help Malik, neighbors, obviously you guys have a relationship, both went to the same college, you know, Malik, neighbors, coming off ACL again, I'm sure he's going to. To be somewhat of what he was before. Before he got hurt. He's very. He's very young. You know, when you. When you're that young, unc, and it's time to recover, you got. Damn. You heal like goddamn Wolverine. You hear me? Especially with technology and the rehab. The rehab process that you. That they have today, I think would be a good look.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

For Odell to be able to go back to New York and finish what he started.

[Ocho]

Yeah, man, Ocho, they get you on. Man, they get you on that damn bike and they get you in that machine where they bend your knee. They got that machine that bent.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Cause they're keeping that right emotion. You don't want. Hey, you want to keep that range of motion and your ass working out five days a week. It ain't like a normal like you and I, we get hurt now, Ocho, we got two days a week. That's all insurance gonna cover. Now, if you want to pay more out your own, that's on you. Yeah, but the only thing insurance is gonna cover is two days a week. In the NFL, you gonna get five days a week. And they might. And if it's a home, guess what? Oh, they have your ass there on Saturday before they take off. I know because I. We had a lot of guys that had ACLs and things like that. Oh, you getting the five days a week. You get that two hours. You get that two hours sometimes. A lot of times they'd have them come like at 9 o', clock, because the guys that's gonna, you know, you're trying to get them back to play, you know, they get there 7 o', clock, meetings started 9 or. Or special teams might start at 8:30, 8:15, something like that. So you got to go. And so they have those guys to come once you start your meeting. So 9 o', clock, they get there 9, 15. But

[Uncle]

yeah, I like that. Remember wand Wanda, right? Did I say that right? Robinson, Excuse me, Tennessee over there with. With Cam. So Odell would be perfect, you know, in that slot position. I mean, I. I like it. Huh? I like it. I Like it, he seems healthy. He's moving really well. Obviously, I know it's just flag football, but flag football, obviously you get, you get to see a small sample size of a, of a player and, and how healthy he is, you know, being able to move around and out, out there competing. Obviously, we know the NFL is completely different, but for sure, I, I, I, I like it for Odell, man. I think he really wants to play and he just needs the opportunity. You just need the opportunity because he can still make plays, he can still get open. He is still one hell of a player, you know, when it comes to, you know, run after catch or getting the ball in his hands, I think, I think he can do, he can do some damage. It depends on how much they use him. It's all about opportunities. How many opportunities are you going to give him?

[Ocho]

You know, I would love to see what he could have been had he stayed healthy, had he stayed in the Giants, had he stayed with the Giants.

[Uncle]

Hey, he was on a hell of a run.

[Ocho]

Sometimes you don't realize what you have until it's gone. You think, Ocho, we talk about this all the time. You all, everybody always think the grass green on the other side. And sometimes the best place for you is right the hell where you are.

[Uncle]

Mm.

[Ocho]

I bet he wish he had never left New York. Probably he was never really the same player. The injuries, I think he broke his ankle before he left the Giants. Then he tore that acl. Remember Ocho did. He tore that ACL again in the Super Bowl. Vikings head coach Kevin o' Connell spoke on Kyler Murray, saying what we're going to attempt to do to put Kyler in an offense that can be comfortable with anytime Kyler Murray drops back with the ball. Defenses have to really think twice about double teams on Justin Jefferson with this type of explosive athleticism. If he does get out of the pocket, it can be a huge play and change the dynamic of the game.

[Uncle]

Yeah,

[Ocho]

you like this. You said you like Khaled going to the bike. You like with JJ and Addison and Hawkinson coming back healthy, that defense playing really well if they can still play at the level that they played at over the last couple years. But you like this signing you like you what you're hearing from.

[Uncle]

Goddamn right I like it. Listen, I, I like the fact that Justin Jefferson gets a quarterback, not only gets a quarterback that's, he gets a quarterback that's not just stationary. He gets a quarterback that obviously they're going to make sure they put a system around him that, that Plays to his strengths with that. You have a quarterback that can also play off script when things don't go well, when things fall apart, he can make something happen. Having a quarterback that can make something happen, you know, and make a play. When an offensive play call is called and it doesn't go right, I see second chance, not points. Second chance opportunities for all those receivers.

[Ocho]

Yes.

[Uncle]

Whether it's Justin Jefferson, whether it's Addison, whether it's Hawkinson, Obviously, I'm not sure who the running back is because I let. They let Aaron. Aaron Jones go, right?

[Ocho]

No, no, no.

[Uncle]

He took a pay cut then. Okay, so. So he did stay. I like. I like the addition. I. I actually. I love the addition, you know, because of what he can do. He can play from the pocket. I think most of the time he's gonna probably be in the gun. He's gonna. He's gonna be in the gun. So he already has an advantage of not having to be on the sitter and drop back and not being able to see, you know, over that offensive line. So I think. I think they're gonna be all right. I think they're gonna be all right.

[Ocho]

Yeah. I like this it in Arizona. I feel both needed a break from each other. You know, I don't know. I don't know if they. He really trusted them after the. The language that they put in the contract. I don't know why. First of all, I don't know why his agent allowed him. Allowed them to put that in his contract. And I don't know why he signed. Well, I do know why he signed it. 200 damn million dollars. That's why I signed it. Hey, I mean, hey, Ocho, you got to be on time. 200 million, man. I'm gonna be here before time. As a matter of fact, I'm gonna cut my camera on. On days that we don't have the show just to make sure if we do got the show, I'm not late.

[Uncle]

Right?

[Ocho]

That's why he signed the contract. So let me take that back. But I don't know why. I do know why, because there are times that there are things, Ocho, when you're dealing with that kind of money you like. Man, please. I'll go ahead and bite the bullet on that one. I'll bite the bullet on that one. But what I don't get, Ocho, with some of these guys is that when I signed my contract, I was already thinking about today's contract, man. I'm trying to get. Hey, I'm trying to have me Two good years on this contract. They tear that thing up again. Yeah, that's how. That's my fault. Now, everybody don't think like that, but I'm straight.

[Uncle]

You ain't never straight. I wanna. Hey, listen, I'm trying to hit the ass across the head one more time. I want to make sure I'm better than everybody else coming behind me because

[Ocho]

there's always somebody coming one more time. I want to keep hitting him. I'll be like, car, too. You know, car too. They be hitting and then you'll be going, hey. He'd be going in the ground. That's what I'm trying to hit him.

[Uncle]

What's that video game at the fair where they got, you know, it got the biggest. That's how I'm doing. I'm trying to do them like that every time.

[Ocho]

So, yeah, every time we'll pop up. I'm trying to hit him on his head. But, yeah, I, I think, you know, and sometimes O is just good to get a fresh start. Sometimes a breath of fresh air is what we need.

[Uncle]

Hey, listen, he got that recalibrate.

[Ocho]

You have a better appreciation, like, you know, maybe you look at like, man, hey, things weren't as bad as we thought because things are different everywhere you go. There's no situation that's exactly how you had it. Where you left from, that's with anything. Ain't no job. You leave one job and the job ain't the same. The people are different. The way they do business is different. You leave a relationship, she ain't exactly like this last one, Yoshi, Jelly, nasty. But she might not be. You know what I'm saying? You might not be.

[Uncle]

Damn, bro, who you telling? You know, I, I, I, I've changed. I've changed, I've changed. They, they love to say, I used to, I used to, I used to deal with you. I used to date you long time ago. I'm not the same person Monday that I am Friday. I'm completely, I'm, I'm completely. I've evolved from Monday to Friday. So what, you dated? What, you dated, you know, two, three years ago. I'm not the same person no more. I continue to evolve with time.

[Ocho]

Oh, you freaky, huh? God damn.

[Uncle]

I ain't say all that.

[Ocho]

I'm just saying, you know, you, hey, you that baby.

[Uncle]

God damn n. I just, you know,

[Ocho]

I mean, they say the more comfortable she is, the fresher she get for your choice.

[Uncle]

That's what they say. That's what they say. Sometimes they don't Even. It don't even take comfort. It all depends on your zeros. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It depends on your zeros, man. You. You might not even know who she is.

[Ocho]

They say that the more educational woman

[Uncle]

have the freedom especially, Especially. Listen, I also heard the ones that wear the glasses that look like librarians.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They think they had them glasses.

[Uncle]

Yeah, yeah, I'm listening. I'm telling you what hurt. I'm not saying I experience it. I'm just telling you what hurt.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Go ahead and take the thing. Let me get there. Let me go help you with him. I want you to mess him up. Oh.

[Uncle]

Oh, four eyes, huh?

[Ocho]

Oh, you got it in here. Yeah, but, but see, here's the thing. No. Oh. I mean, ooh. Is that if you got them. Them on you.

[Uncle]

Hey, hey, speaking of them things, hey, where, where my shipment?

[Ocho]

You got to put it in April 1st.

[Uncle]

Okay, okay, okay. That, that's what, tomorrow next? That's Wednesday. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

You done went through all this.

[Uncle]

They, they all, they all.

[Ocho]

God.

[Uncle]

I know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Yes, I, I did, I did.

[Ocho]

Hold on. Oo, let me find out. You walking around the house like this. God dang. Come on.

[Uncle]

Oh, I. Listen, it's. It's new for me because I, I, I've never taken anything like that. And, and the fact that it got me feeling like I'm 21, 22 again.

[Ocho]

It absolutely will.

[Uncle]

It's a good thing. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. So, yeah. Yeah, I'm on E. I've been on E for a while. I just didn't want to say anything publicly. I didn't want people to judge me because, you know, people on the outside, they. They, they tend to judge, you know?

[Ocho]

That's okay.

[Uncle]

Yeah. So. Damn, man.

[Ocho]

Ocho. Not all the time. Oh, every time.

[Uncle]

Yeah. Ain't that the point. Or you do. What am I supposed to say? Am I supposed to save something for special occasions?

[Ocho]

Oh, my goodness.

[Uncle]

I know what I don't want to do, uncle, is I don't want to get addicted to it. I don't want to.

[Ocho]

You don't got addicted to me. You, you don't. You already addicted?

[Uncle]

I don't think so. I think I could stop if I need to.

[Ocho]

I mean, literally. Well, technically, a D, I, C, K

[Uncle]

did, but we. But if you.

[Ocho]

If the D, D, I, C, T.

[Uncle]

Well, technically, I'm not addicted because I haven't had any. I've run out for a while, and. And I've been okay.

[Ocho]

She know the difference. You think.

[Uncle]

You think so?

[Ocho]

Hell, yeah.

[Uncle]

Yeah. Wait. Yeah. She. She ain't tell me that. I. I got to ask, bro.

[Ocho]

She know the difference.

[Uncle]

I got. I got to ask. I got. I got to ask, cuz. I mean, usually, if. If. If there's a difference, I. I would hope she would come to me and say, listen, I don't know what you. What was going on, but whatever you gave me on Monday, I want that back.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Br. You know, the first time. Bring that wood. Leave that second one that you came with. Leave him on, Please. Yeah. Yes. You know the difference.

[Uncle]

Yeah, you know, I. I matter of fact, I can't deal with that. I can't deal with that. I can't. I can't. I can't. Because that. That would be a blow, honestly. And to tell me something. To tell me something like that. And. And I feel like I'm putting in work, and I feel like I'm doing what I'm supposed to do, and the fact that I didn't take something, you know, and you come and tell me. Well, it ain't what. It ain't. It ain't what it. What it was.

[Ocho]

She told. Lady told me. She told me. Chick told me what happened. Cause it's the first time, you know, I'm going, hey, like I said, look, I'm a good quarterback, been to a Pro bowl, but I wanted to be okay.

[Uncle]

Okay.

[Ocho]

I wanted to go to multiple Pro Bowls. I wanted more MVPs. I wanted a. I want to try to stir it like, yes, sir. You know what I'm saying?

[Uncle]

Yes, sir.

[Ocho]

So I put it on him.

[Uncle]

Yes, sir. Hey, first impressions.

[Ocho]

It.

[Uncle]

It lasts forever now.

[Ocho]

She said, boy, you wouldn't lie. She say. She said, boy, you wouldn't lie, man, I swear, Ocho. I finished. Oh. So she got on her knees, she looking up on her head. She opened up the closet. I said, what you looking for? She said, who helped you? She said, ain't no way. No one did that right there, what you did to me. She said, ain't no way what person did. So. You know me, Ocho. Hey, when I'm gonna see you again, I have it on me, you know, I wouldn't let you out. I thought I did. So, you know, I did. Did what I could, you know what I'm saying? You know how you have them candy mans? I come back and do the rest of tomorrow, you know, next time I. I come back when I get, I call her, say, what's up? What's going on? She's like, I ain't doing nothing. I said, when I'm going to see you again? She said, what you got going on tomorrow or Thursday? Cuz, this was. I said, I ain't got nothing. She said, okay, I'll be, I'll be free Thursday after 8 o'.

[Uncle]

Clock.

[Ocho]

I said, okay, I see you at 8. She say, Shannon, she said, bring that dick you had the first time. Okay, I want it. I want it on Joe. I want it. So ever since then, hey, they the real deal. Y' all need to go on and get your, get yours. Get the sparks now. Hey, guys, I ain't lying to you. I told you to. Told you. If prescribed new sexual health patients get 15 off their first order of sparks on a reoccurring plan, connect with the provider at Ro co nightcap. That's Ro co nightcap to find out if prescription roast sparks are right for you. Man. Hey, man, look at oo, man. Oh, you know what? I should ride a book.

[Uncle]

Hey, boy, if somebody told hey, boy, if somebody told me that, boy, hey, I bet you know what? Don't even worry about it.

[Ocho]

Yeah, don't even worry about it. At best believe.

[Uncle]

Yeah, see, I need them.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, Ro, if y' all listening, y' all need to come out with that liquid. Oh, y' all need to come out.

[Uncle]

So get in your system faster.

[Ocho]

Huh?

[Uncle]

I like that. I like that. I like that. Hey, I like that.

[Ocho]

Like that GLP that they came out with.

[Uncle]

Boy, that was. Oh, that was a good one. Boy, that was a good one.

[Ocho]

Whenever Travis Hunter is cleared to return to the practice field this spring, he will be spending more time each day with taking reps on both sides of the ball. That's a change from his rookie season where he spent the bulk of his otas in minicamp on offense. Liam Cohen, who's the head coach, says, I think we're going to blend this offseason schedule with him a little bit better than what we did last year, which is more like focus per day on one side of the ball, as we did in the season where he was more back and forth on both sides of the ball throughout the day. That might be a little bit more worth trending. Hunter is coming off season, season ending knee surgery and will eventually be medically cleared to return to OTAs. Oo, do you like this?

[Uncle]

Yeah, I, I, I like it, I love it. It's what he did in college. Obviously. We, we, we had debates about Whether would he. Whether he would be able to do it at the highest level, being how much it would take out of him based on the type of players and talent he would be going against, whether he's playing a DB or whether he's playing a receiver. And we feel for him to be actually great, he has to play one position. But he made it clear, he made it known that wherever he goes, he would love to play both sides, you know, both sides, you know, of the ball. So for Travis Hunter, who we. Who we call the Ferrari, you know, was, you know, the Ferrari was in the garage, you know, this season due to injury. So I'm hoping, you know, he comes back healthy and he's ready, puts on a little bit more muscle to prevent, you know, small injuries like this based on the workload that he's going to have, having to play both sides of the ball. So I'm excited. I'm excited for him. Hopefully you can have success in doing both. And even if you're not great on both sides of the ball, if you can be good and give your team what they need at that position and make the plays you made being instinctive like you were in college, I mean, I think it's a good thing.

[Ocho]

I think I'll be cautious. Ocho, because he's coming off okay. Yeah. Season needs to insert season ending knee surgery. I would be really cautious because I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want to over stress it. And I understand that, you know, you want to do a better job of blending him and have him going back and forth, but that's a lot of taxing. That's a lot of planting, cutting going one way, and that's a lot of backpedaling, dip and planting coming the other way. So I would just. I would just say be cautious with that. But there's no. No question his conditioning. But I. I want to see it. Yeah, I want to see it. He believes that he can play 75 plays playing both ways. I mean, no, he believes he can play an entire game, both offense and defense. I think that's a bit. That's asking a bit much, but I think, hey, let's find out. He believes it. They believe it. Because the only way this works, Ocho, you traded up and you traded a first round draft pick to do this. So for me, it has to work. He has to be every bit of what you thought you were getting when you traded that pick, because basically they moved up, what, one spot to grab.

[Uncle]

Yep. At two yeah.

[Ocho]

So Parker Washington Jr. Parker Washington played extremely well. I like. I think they got a tight end named Strange. I think he played well. Now they're gonna be without. They lose Travis Hn.

[Uncle]

Hn. Yeah, not atn.

[Ocho]

I don't know who the other receiver is.

[Uncle]

Wait, hey, wait a minute. Didn't. Who just went to the 49ers,

[Ocho]

huh?

[Uncle]

Parker Washington. Not. He's still there.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

Okay.

[Ocho]

Christian. I'm thinking about Kirk, but Christian Kirk, you know, he went from. He went from the jags. Okay, Houston.

[Uncle]

Houston 49. Okay. Okay. I keep. I get Christian Kirk and him mixed up.

[Ocho]

Said he moved up three spots. I appreciate that, bro, but I know they gave. I mean, they gave a first round draft pick to move us three spots. And so when you move up, that. That guy's got to be a difference.

[Uncle]

Absolutely.

[Ocho]

Got to be a difference maker. And so. Huh. Jacoby Myers.

[Uncle]

Oh, yeah, they got him.

[Ocho]

No, they got him from the Raiders.

[Uncle]

Yeah, I forgot about Jacobe. Jacobe.

[Ocho]

Yeah, they got Jacobe Myers is the other receiver. So Parker Washington, Kobe Myers, Strange. Christian Kirk was gone last year. And so Trav is in. Will be in the mix.

[Uncle]

Jacobe. Hey, Jacobe was balling too when he came.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah, for sure. And. And Trev, he seemed like this. This offense is kind of suited the coaches, the coach. He and Liam seem to be on the same wavelength. This is why they selected him number one. This is why I say when he stepped foot in college, that he's gonna be. When he comes out, he'll be the first. He'll be the first player taken. This is what you look at him last year, you say, okay, now I see what everybody saw. Wins the national championship as a true freshman. Gets them there, gets them to the championship again even though they lose. Hey, he got the goods. Oh, and what you call him? Brian Thomas Jr. Oh, Joey. Coming off an injury.

[Uncle]

That's right.

[Ocho]

How we forgot about him.

[Uncle]

Brian Thomas, he had a Hella.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, they got a nice little.

[Uncle]

He had a hell of a rookie season. Kind of tapered off a little bit with the inconsistencies last year, though.

[Ocho]

Yes. Yes.

[Uncle]

You're gonna be all right. You're gonna be all right.

[Ocho]

He definitely needs to be all right. He needs to be all right. Oh, show. The NFL is moving forward with plans to begin hiring and training replacement officials in the next several weeks because the negotiation with the NFL Referee association have stalled. Of the current CBA. Expires May 31. The NFL has offered a 6 5-point.45 annual growth rate over the next year as a deal, the NFL RPA, the referee association is asking for 10 plus 2 million in marketing fees. The average NFL official earned 385000 in 2025. Training of replacement officials to be recruited from the college ranks is expected to begin as early as May 1st. The last time NFL used replacement officials within 2012. And you remember Ocho the fail Mary the ball hit the dirt. They gave the guy a touchdown. And I think it was the Seattle beat Green Bay on the situation. If replacement players ref take the field in 2026. How bad does it get, Ocho? Does it affect the integrity?

[Uncle]

I think it does affect the integrity of the game. I understand that they are officials maybe at the college level, maybe even at the high school level. You never, you never know what their experience are. I mean is obviously. But the best officials to have at the highest level are those that are familiar with the game, those that have been doing it at the highest level for a very long time. And of course human error is inevitable. They're going to get some. They're going to get it wrong sometime. But for the most part, those that have experience, those that have been doing it for years are the best ones to do. Hopefully they can get this situation, you know, solidified and expedited. You know, so the referees are there. If you have replacement refs, there are going to be mistakes and many more than what we already have when the regular refs are in.

[Ocho]

It's just, and just this is what business is about. It doesn't matter how much the NFL makes. They're trying to keep they possibly can while paying out as little as they possibly can. Be it players, be it officials. So this notion that we want the best. No you don't. You want the most affordable. That's what you want. Revenue keeps going up expeditiously.

[Uncle]

Crazy. These guys pay them compensate, especially the referees.

[Ocho]

I mean, I mean you say, you know and I say, I think they, they released a statement like the NFL is not being. They're being disingenuous. They're trying to negotiate through the media. You know, the NFL is always trying. If you notice the NFL. I told you I wasn't gonna say anything. But I can't. I can't keep my mouth shut. The NFL is always trying to cap, trying to cap salary. They always try to put a cap on how much somebody can make you notice that. Ocho always. But they don't put no cap.

[Uncle]

Oh no, absolutely not.

[Ocho]

They want to put a cap on the players. How much the Players you got a salary, you already got a salary cap. But now you know a, a player in this thing, this is the most he can make. Now the officials X, Y and Z and is it true that the officials that they don't get medical benefits covered?

[Uncle]

They don't.

[Ocho]

I don't think so. I think I read some. They do. Okay, Go ahead Ocho.

[Uncle]

What happened?

[Ocho]

See something?

[Uncle]

Oh you, you looking for somebody with officials? If I could be the one.

[Ocho]

NFL officials who are generally classified as part time employees rather than full time league staff do not receive the same comprehensive health insurance benefits as headquarters employees according to the recent labor dispute. While they receive a 401k travel plan, stipends and and compensation for games, they have historically lacked traditional medical coverage. In the NFL health insurance dispute, a major contention of the labor negotiations have been the lack of health care benefit for on field officials. I thought I had read that where they said that was a really sticking point for them. I don't think they get it. It's or it's not the same level as what the. Yeah well employee. It's kind of like it's kind of. It's kind of like Congress, Congress get platinum coverage and then you try to scrap and try to find a silver or, or, or, or, or, or or piece together plan where they get top of the line coverage. So we'll see. Hopefully, hopefully they get this thing resolved because that's the last thing I want

[Uncle]

to see replacement officials on Sundays.

[Ocho]

Because you are. Because. Oh, because we are what? Anytime a bomb call they already think he owned somebody on the cake. Somebody made a call you don't want. I mean and you, and you and, and considering that the prop bets and everything that's going on. He's the, the, the. The conversation is getting louder and louder. Ocho. These are the college football biggest spenders on private jets in 2025. Alabama 1.235 million. Nebraska $1.136 million. University of Michigan A million 78 000am 925000 Texas 8.8 or 817000 as you can see the list right now on your screen chat. Yeah we hold on. Where did wyoming go for $3,000? They must be just drove that thing around the hanger just cranked it up and backed it out.

[Uncle]

That's it. Just to make sure it crank up.

[Ocho]

You ain't flew nowhere. Hey, you can't even go from Larrabi

[Uncle]

to Jackson Hole in most of those trips. Right? Is that for the head coaches or just for players that they bring in on visits.

[Ocho]

I don't think. I think the coach. I think the coaches. I don't think that's. They don't put that in there. I mean, that's probably put a. Nah, I'm saying that's probably.

[Uncle]

Yeah, I was gonna say like bringing them in on.

[Ocho]

On visits and family, the top guys. Or talk. Or, or, or guys right in the portal.

[Uncle]

Okay, okay, okay. Okay. Hey, that. That's. That's not bad. And the numbers aren't that bad based on how much the goddamn entities in colleges make in general. Yeah, that's not bad.

[Ocho]

This is nothing to do with games, so we're not surprised. But I'm trying to figure out where Wyoming went. I'm trying to figure out where Oregon State went, where Houston went.

[Uncle]

Hey, that's enough. That's enough on my. My Beavers. You know, we, we. We going through it as it is right now. We gonna be all right.

[Ocho]

Ocho, where you going for $11,000?

[Uncle]

Hey, probably to Portland. Portland and right back.

[Ocho]

You probably should drove.

[Uncle]

Oh, hey, my beef is gonna get back, right? Man, I'm telling you.

[Ocho]

I don't know, Ocho. Y' all looking, y'. All.

[Uncle]

Hey, it's rough. It's rough. I'm not even gonna lie to you. It's rough right now. There's such a huge imbalance right now with, with Oregon State and, and Oregon, you know. But back in my time when I was there.

[Ocho]

Hey, y' all put something on.

[Uncle]

Did we. We lost one game that year. Huh? We love. We lost to the Huskies and you know what we did to Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl? Yeah, we had a team of nothing but junior, junior, junior college players, man. All you got, man. I'm talking about dogs everywhere. All the way across the board, offense and defense. Hey, Dennis Erickson was one hell of a coach, man.

[Ocho]

I think I saw. I was reading somewhere today. I don't know, it might have been AI. That what you call me getting ready to build a. A 170 million dollar facility, Oregon. Or that.

[Uncle]

That might be believable.

[Ocho]

I mean.

[Uncle]

Believable. They already got there. I'm sure I have. I've never been to their facility, man.

[Ocho]

Yeah, you see that facility they got. They got barber chairs. Is it. Oh, okay, so it ain't by reputable.

[Uncle]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Ocho]

So I even brought it up.

[Uncle]

Hey, especially Oregon. I know they got state of the art everything stated art, everything I could imagine. I've never been there. It's just the fact that Phil Knight went there, so. I know, I know.

[Ocho]

They get first dibs on everything Ocho they got. I mean, the shoes, the colorways, everything. They get first deal on everything.

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[Ocho]

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[Ocho]

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[Ocho]

Nothing's off limits.

[Lily Herman]

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[Ocho]

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[Ocho]

How much you weigh, Wanda?

[Lily Herman]

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[Uncle]

I'm at 183.

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[Uncle]

No, I want to leave here with my original hips.

[Lily Herman]

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