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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Johnson
Okay, we saw the debut today. Travis Hunter Ocho saw action on both sides of the football in his preseason debut the the Jags versus the Steelers. On offense he had 11 snaps, 2 receptions, 9 yards. On defense he had 8 snaps with 0 targets. Oo I might have to get get a couple of more jobs like you because the way they got these games spread out and how you going to have to pay? Damn near. You basically got to pay to watch each individual game.
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Shannon Sharpe
Listen, you know what you can do? You can use YouTube TV. You can use YouTube TV where you get most of the games and also I have the NFL app on my phone. So the NFL app allows you to be able to go back and forth, do some of the games you want to. You can't see them all at the same time, but it's just the preseason. It's just the preseason. So it's kind of difficult to be able to watch the ones you want to watch based on location and where they are.
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Chad Johnson
So because most of most of them are regional.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right, right, right. But once, once the regular season gets in. Gets in, you know, you'll be able to watch multiple at one time, especially the 1 o' clock games, obviously the 4:30 games and then those that are slated at 7:30.
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Chad Johnson
Right. Um, he did have 11 snaps, two receptions for nine yards. Nothing deep, nothing significant. He gave up leverage on one play. He'll learn. These guys are really good. You, hey, if you got leverage and he had leverage, you to let the guy bounce outside, you ain't, you ain't getting, you ain't catching. Those guys. You got to maintain your, your lane, responsibility, integrity. But like I said, it was, it was, you know, I, I just wanted to see what, what, you know, we, we saw what. We saw what it wasn't. You know what I'm saying? If, I mean, how do we rate it? He caught two passes for nine yards and he had eight snaps.
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Shannon Sharpe
I mean, the one thing is, it's kind of, it's not, it's not, it's not nitpicking. One thing that he will learn too, on the two pass that he get. He did, he did catch. I call it, I always call it that. Marvin Harrison, remember Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison always having that under, that short, under six yards coming in. But he did so well in college that the players and the DBs in college didn't do. They would over commit so much. He'd be. Be able to spin out the back door. He'd be able to spin out the back door. But now, now that you're at the next level, they don't over commit. They come to balance right away and they make the tackle. So he tried and you got to.
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Chad Johnson
Be careful with that. You know them big guys, you know the big guys trailing now.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Chad Johnson
You know, hey. Cause what happens when they see that ball thrown? They coming.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they coming. But you gotta remember he's coming from outside to in and trying to spin back outside. Hope TB is out of control. But most of the time they're not out of control.
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Chad Johnson
No.
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Shannon Sharpe
So they were under control. Listen, you split the man in half. When you attack coming to tackle, you always hit the target. So I mean, outside is.
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Chad Johnson
Yeah, you keep your upfield. You don't let him get on your outside shoulder because a lot of times, like you said, they over commit. And the outside shoulders inside the man, now he spins out. Now, you see, as long as my outside shoulder is free, I can die for you.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Yeah. So. And that's it. That's it. He'll see it'll be much more difficult to be able to do some of those tricks that you did in college because these were out of control. They over commit, they attack in the inside shoulder, you know, and all you got to do once you spin back, it becomes a foot race and you.
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Chad Johnson
Running down the sideline, race him to the corner. Now I got my inside hat, I got my steel farm, free the steel farm you and pick up yards. But yeah, those are things that, you know, as you play at this, at this level, you will learn a lot of the tricks of the trade. You'll know when to get down, when you can fight and struggle for extra yards. Because I'm telling you, those big guys in those licks hurt when them 300 pounds hit you. That's different than a DB tackle, you know. Cause he hitting, he putting helmet on you and he putting 300 pound. Exactly.
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Shannon Sharpe
So.
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Chad Johnson
And on, on defensive side, like I said, he just had that one, that one play that I saw that he gave up leverage. But other than that, nothing, you know, really major to write home about. I don't think it's going to be really hard to judge him, Ocho, unless he gets significant snaps, you know what I'm saying? And they give him an opportunity and we see him, we see them like, game plan to get him to football. It's hard being he caught two passes, nine yards.
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Shannon Sharpe
Listen, I thought, I thought obviously the hype around Travis Hunter, second, second round. Yeah, I mean, second pick in the draft. I thought they were going to feature him a little bit, but obviously the play. Yeah, they allowed Trevor Lawrence, they allowed the offense to flow, whatever they gave him. They just, they didn't feature him. First play of the game, Brian Thomas Jr. Goddamn hits on the right side. Then I thought they would come to him at some point and just get him acclimated and then get him going. But nah, nah, they just waited. When the opportunity presented itself, they threw in the ball and you know, it was, it was simple.
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Chad Johnson
Yeah, I, me personally, I think he's going to spend more time on offense than defense, but hey, that, that remains to be seen. But I do think you'll probably get a lot more. You will see a lot more Travis and what he's capable of doing once the season start. I don't think they're going to, you know, try to prove any point or make anything, you know, do anything, have him do anything spectacular in the postseason. Because the thing is, Ocho, I want to, you know, you try to keep most of your stuff on the wraps got to. I don't want to show you too much in the preseason because these games don't mean anything. I'm just trying to get timely. I'm trying to get the guys, you know, get the guys in football shape. Because here's the thing now, with three games, you play the third game now, you got in a week, a week in between when you play again. It used to be, you know, Ocho, we played that Thursday, Friday, and guess what, we was playing the following Sunday. It's not like that anymore. So now you play. Now you got another week in between before you go play. And so I'm just trying to get the guys as conditioned as I possibly can, let them know what is going to be expected, you know, the, the timing and all that stuff. But I think Travis, fine, like I said, 11 snaps, two receptions, nine yards, eight snaps, zero targets. He got 19. He got 19 snaps, which is probably about what you would think if he, if he was just a rookie playing on one side of the ball. That's probably what you thought he would get about 19 snaps.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I'm excited for him.
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Chad Johnson
But the most outstanding thing in the game happened when Jaguars kicker Cam Little nailed a 70 yard field goal as the first half expired in Jacksonville's preseason open against the Steelers that would have broken the NFL record had it been the regular season. Justin tucker kicked a 66 yard field goal to beat the Lions September 26, 2021 at Ford Field. Now, it's a lot different. It's a lot different kicking outside than it is inside because you got control conditions. You don't have to worry about wind, you don't have to worry about rain. You don't have to worry about anything. That field goal that this gentleman kicked looked like it had been good for about 72. Cause he boomed.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he did. He did.
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Chad Johnson
He boomed it though. He. He boomed it up and look, I don't care. I know it's preseason doesn't count. Well, you go out there, you go out there to the high school field and kick us in the yard.
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Shannon Sharpe
It's very difficult. I don't think people understand how far that is, even for those who are professionals. You have to understand being able to kick it from that far. One, most people do have the leg, but the problem is it's not, it's not about having a leg and act. It's about having the accuracy to be able to kick from that far. You have to understand the uprights have been, have been changed. Hunk. They're a lot more Narrow than they used to be. So for the room for error, the room for error when kicking, you know, most of the time, the ball, depending on if you have the consistency. Yes, yes, yes. That you have the consistency in your follow through. You can't swing to the left or you can't leave your leg open and it'll go wide right. No, you. Everything has to be perfect. That, that, that finish, that follow, especially.
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Chad Johnson
When you kick it that far, because if anything is off, you kicking that part.
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Shannon Sharpe
One way or the other. And the funny thing about it is, most people, most people say, well, it is a preseason. There's no pressure as well in this, in, in this kick. There's no pressure. The circumstance that, that you're in, you know, it's. It's preseason. You know what we're going to allow you to kick. Would they allow him to kick from 70 maybe in a regular season game where it actually counts? Probably not.
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Chad Johnson
Because if you think about it, you.
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Shannon Sharpe
Got to understand the team is already in.
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Chad Johnson
Steelers didn't even put anybody back. That was my point. They didn't even put anybody back there. So there's like, hey, don't even worry about it. Cause that's the thing. That is the thing. What you're saying is that they normally have a guy back there. And if you miss it, you got really only two guys, maybe your wings that can tackle. They're normally linebackers or tight ends. So those are really. You only really got two guys that can tackle. You got offensive linemen, mainly offensive linemen. Now, you might have a defensive lineman on there, Ocho, but he ain't tackling in space.
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Shannon Sharpe
No.
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Chad Johnson
And you know the kick. What, what, what's the likelihood of the kicker, the holder, getting somebody down? Cause we saw it on the kick. Six Auburn versus Alabama. We've seen Antonio Cromartie run those things back. We've seen Devin Hester run it back. I, I think OBJ ran one back in college. So when you put people in situations that they're not used to being in, which is offensive linemen having to tackle, kickers and punters having to tackle, especially with that kind of space. Now, if you get him hemmed up on the sideline, you could try to push him out of bounds, but that guy done got a head of steam. And, you know, they're taught. And linemen don't really know how to get lanes, Ocho. Cause you know, they following each other. They follow right behind one another, bro. Spread their ass out.
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Shannon Sharpe
You.
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Chad Johnson
We got lanes now that you have to get In. And. But that was. I was like. And why not? Like you said, Ocho, why not try something like this? Okay? Now I got the confidence. Cause if it's a. If it's a late in the ball game, instead of trying to hail Mary, hell, I might. I might let the kicker come out.
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Shannon Sharpe
There and try either to tie a game or the winner. Game. Yep.
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Chad Johnson
I mean, especially if we in Indy or Houston. Cause those are indoors and there's no.
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Shannon Sharpe
Factors from the outside elements.
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Chad Johnson
Yes, yes. So congratulations. Look, congratulations. It does not count towards the record. But, you know, you know, now I got the. I got the leg. The coach knows you have the leg.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hey, you know who.
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Chad Johnson
Cause you gotta think, Ocho, that's a kickoff.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, absolutely. You do. He does a kickoff. Hold on. Wait a minute. Now, you do know your co host can kick just as far, right?
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Chad Johnson
No, you never kick that far.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hold on. Timeout. Time out.
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Chad Johnson
Time out.
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Shannon Sharpe
Time out. You know, there's video. There's visual evidence. There's video evidence. I don't know. Ash is there. You have. You have a great team of people that can pull things up.
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Chad Johnson
No, she on vacation.
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Shannon Sharpe
Over. Ash, can you please show Unc me kicking from 60, 65 yards, please? And having even more room to go once it goes through. I think I might have been with. During this time. I might have been with bleach report. We were. We were doing something. It. It's. It's. It's online. Huh?
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Chad Johnson
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about in the game. Now, if you can't. I saw you make a pat in the game.
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Shannon Sharpe
Five yards in the game. And, And. Or. Or just. Just doing it, you know, in the park practicing. It's still. I have.
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Chad Johnson
So. So a guy catching. So a guy catching the ball in the Turkey bowl is the same as kicking the ball in the NFL.
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Shannon Sharpe
But we're not talking about a guy. We're talking. You're actually referring to an actual player who plays, you know, in the NFL or played.
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Chad Johnson
Played.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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Chad Johnson
Many, many years ago.
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Shannon Sharpe
But I. I still can. Mentally. I know what to do. Now the body might not react the way it should.
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Chad Johnson
Yeah, I know. I know what to do. I know how to run. I know how to, like, swing my arms and put one leg in front of the other. But doing it is something entirely different.
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm just trying to give you a small example that your Coach can kick 65, 70 yards as well.
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Chad Johnson
No. Maybe once upon a time, my co host could kick 65, 70 yards to realize Uncle.
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Shannon Sharpe
I play soccer every weekend. I'm part of a soccer league here in Miami. Out here.
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Chad Johnson
Let me ask you a question. You think Messi leg speed is the same as it was say 15 years ago?
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Shannon Sharpe
His speed? Easy. Like being able to break out and get away from people?
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Chad Johnson
I said his leg speed.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh no. Absolutely not. No, no, no.
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Chad Johnson
Why not?
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Shannon Sharpe
Because he's much older now.
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Chad Johnson
Oh okay. Thank you very much. We can move along. Cam Ward NFL preseason debut tonight in Tampa. Five of eight completions, all completions coming on the second drive. 67 yards passing, an 89.1 rating. Led a 65 yard touchdown drive. Oo the little bit, the limited action that you saw, you like what you saw?
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Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely. Absolutely. The funny thing about it is, you know what is these players are NFL ready. Some rookies that I saw today are are so poised in the pocket most of the time they get happy feet when pressure is is is is put upon them. But they look like they've been playing for 10 plus years. They look like veterans. The pocket presence, the, the, the, the relaxness under duress. Cam Ward showed it, Jackson Dart showed it as well. Obviously we saw Shador last night who also played with that same calmness and poise and, and, and you can see the leadership qualities in the way they carry themselves as quarterbacks. And Cam, small sample size that we, we were able to see tonight. He didn't play much, but you can tell, you can tell he's sharp. You can tell he's been coached well, not just here at the NFL level where he's at now, because it doesn't just happen that fast. It's not that fast of a turnaround to look that comfortable like you know what you're doing. So he was coached very well obviously when he was at um and so it was carried over into the NFL. And I'm, I'm excited for Tennessee Titan fans, you know, and what they had with the number one pick. I just don't like the fact that he's been overshadowed since his pick because everyone else has been talked about. This is the least talked about number one pick, I think maybe what ever, huh? You were the number one pick. So it seemed like he's went under the radar. No one said anything about him. When most of the pressure is on a number one pick to perform because you're going to last year, like you.
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Chad Johnson
Said, I can fly under the radar. The difference is now, Ocho, these guys come in, they've been coached by throwing coaches since they were in high school, their freshman year. So there's not like the guys that came in 25 years ago, they were just coming to the NFL and then, okay, hey, you get, you hire a coach right before you getting ready to go, you know, to the end of, to the combine. And then you work with him up until you, your pro day and that's it. These guys have these guys all the time. It's just like basketball players, they got shooting coaches and they got trainers now in college, so they have an upper hand. That's why they're so when you find a guy that's ready, he's really ready to play.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Chad Johnson
These receivers, they work with guys. So when you find a guy that's ready, he's really, really ready. And so guys are not coming in like you, I mean like, like I came in, I mean guys, you know, time, I mean guys would go down there for like maybe six weeks and work with a speed coach. But these guys got professionals basically training them. Sometimes they have them in High school Ocho. So just imagine you going through the process and they, they giving you. They giving you pro style advice.
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Shannon Sharpe
And you know what? I think that's why so many different quarterbacks. Obviously they look the par, but don't have all the other intangibles to be a starter. They look the part. But Cam Moore, not only did he look the part, but he had everything else. He had all the other qualities that make him the number one pick. Obviously Shador falling to the fifth round, not only do you look the part, but he has all the other intangibles that made. That made him a top pick despite him falling to the fifth round.
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Chad Johnson
Right?
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Shannon Sharpe
They polished. They're. They're polished. That's all it is. You're a rookie who's been prepared for the NFL level, so you look the par. Once you're in a structured environment, in a real live game. God damn. How the hell are you dropping back so goddamn calm? Everybody rushing, trying to knock his head off. And he's sitting there chilling progression. One, two, three. Okay, three's not there. Let me shoot back the one. If one ain't there, I'm either throw out of the bounds or I'm going to tuck it and run.
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Chad Johnson
Nah, hell no. You better not. If you, if you go 1, 2, 3 and try to go back to 1, they're gonna hit you. Put your. Put the helmet right up under your chin. You better take that check down.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Chad Johnson
Hey. 1, 2, 3, check down. 1, 2, 3. Throw it out of bounds.
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Shannon Sharpe
Take off with it.
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Chad Johnson
Yeah. And. And I think, Ocho. I think that's what we're seeing. If you look at these quarterbacks, I mean, it used to be a quarterback throwing for 20 touchdowns in a season was like, oh, my gosh, he really did, man. These guys throwing for 25, 30 touchdowns, easy. It's. It's a look, and I understand the rules have a lot to do with that. The way they protect the quarterback, the way they protect the receiver, the way they throw the football now is more conducive for quarterback having better stats. But I do think these guys are a little bit more advanced than. Than when the older guys, the Montanas and the Elways and the Marinos, when they came out. I'm not saying they're better, but they're coached more. And so I don't. John probably never. I don't know if d. Danny or John to be interesting, man. You have, you had a. You had a. A pro coach. You had a Tom House or you have a. What's Carson Palmer's brother name Jordan.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Jordan Palmer's real deal.
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Chad Johnson
Hey, you have a, did you have a Jordan Palmer? Did you have a George Whitfield? Did you have any of those guys to, to. To help you?
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Shannon Sharpe
The.
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Chad Johnson
All these quarterbacks, they have those offensive linemen, they're working out with offensive line coaches, they're working out with former great NFL linemen. So they're a little bit more advanced than, than say the guys. You know, even if you want to say 10 years ago, 15 years ago, definitely when you go start going back 20, 30 years ago, there are more advanced just like the guys are coming out in basketball. You see how. And even baseball, these guys, you know, fathers played and so they got you know, hitting coaches, they got pitching coaches, they're looking at biomechanics and they look at all.
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Shannon Sharpe
The funny thing about it is you think about the time at the time change and knowledge.
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Chad Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Is advanced and everything evolves. They have better resources. They got unlimited resources.
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Chad Johnson
Absolutely.
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Shannon Sharpe
Better at said position. Whatever it may be, whatever their respect respective craft may be to hone that skill set. So when they make it to the highest level, they look the part. Right now it's one thing to look the part everybody you, I mean that the it factor can get you in the door, but you got to have all the other stuff that comes with it to excel.
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Chad Johnson
Now. I totally, I told. I totally agree but I thought camp Ward played really well, especially second drive. You got the ball to Calvin Ridley, you know, really, hey, that's somebody he can lean, lean heavily on because he's one of the premier route runners and he started to get, he started to look like Calvin Ridley again. Cause you remember that last year that he really played in Atlanta.
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Shannon Sharpe
He was cutting, he was cutting.
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Chad Johnson
He was do. He was doing it. He was really doing it. On the other side of the ball, rookie Shiloh Sanders delivered multiple big hits including one on Brandon Allen on a blitz. First round draft pick Emeka also showed off his physical attributes, leaping 21 yard grab backup quarterback Kyle Trask. I mean Shador's played really well. I mean I've seen footage of him in camp. He did a great job of in the one on one team, a one on one period against a great job. I saw him. He's on it. He was on it because you have to understand he started out, he started out at the corner. Oh so. Oh so he does have corner instinct.
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Shannon Sharpe
I thought he was always the.
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Chad Johnson
Yeah, he started out of the corner and then moved to safety. But when. Yeah yeah, I Thought he played well. We know he's a thumper. He's looking to get. Looking get down here. Yeah, but I thought he. And I think it's going to be interesting. Ocho, how many special teams can he play? Because that's going to be the key. He's not a start. Now. He could be working his way into the starting lineup, but as of right now, I don't think he's a starter. So now what other ways can you contribute?
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Shannon Sharpe
He'll.
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Chad Johnson
He'll be.
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Shannon Sharpe
He'll be on special teams, whether it be field goal block, whether it be. We be kickoff.
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Chad Johnson
Yeah. Return. Can you be. Can you be a jammer? Can you be a gunner?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Chad Johnson
Can you be on the front line? Can you be a L? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. On the front line? You definitely. He gonna be okay, you know, kickoff, obviously.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Hey, is it me or does it seem like kickoff is. Is much more. Much easier as opposed. As opposed to how it was during our day? You know, you had the wedge buster. You. You had the.
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Chad Johnson
Yeah, yeah. They don't. They don't. They don't really want those type of collisions, so they don't. If you see they're not letting you get that kind of running start.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Chad Johnson
It'S different. It's not. It's. I mean, I think Hester said he'd have probably more return touchdowns had they had it in like that. So it's a bit interesting to see what would have happened. But the advancements, I don't have a problem with. No, Jo.
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Shannon Sharpe
I mean, sometimes, like, man, it's different.
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Chad Johnson
It's very different. It's very different. The guy that you really like in the first round, the Bucks selected Emeka Ibuka. You. You like him. You like McMillan, Carolina.
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Shannon Sharpe
And they both look good.
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Chad Johnson
You like. I think whether. Go. Did golden go in the first round or the second round. Okay. Oh, yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Second round. He read. Ran four, two.
- [25:52]
Chad Johnson
First number 23. Then they had. Jaden Higgins went in the second round, Luther Burton III went in the second round, Trey Harris went in the second round, and Jack beach went in the second round. So there were. In the first two rounds. There were seven receivers that went in the first. The first two rounds. Who do you. Who do you expect to have the biggest impact?
- [26:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Probably honestly, out of everyone you just name. I know Matthew golden is good. He's phenomenal. Obviously, they do have dubs. They have Jaden Reed. So I don't think he will get the number of targets necessary to be able to showcase Reed, Dobbs, Watson. There's so many of them over there. I think he will contribute. But I really believe T. Mac McMillan over there with the Panthers, you know, and with what he's able to do and what he showed very small sample size. Honestly, it's been one preseason game but again, I've been high on the Panthers. I think tmac is going to be the one to show showcase his ability and what he can do. It's a mismatch every time they leave him one on one. He's very tall, he can run after the catch and obviously 50, 50 ball turning 80, 20 when it, when it is him. So I'm excited for him. He's the one I'm highest on and hoping that not just him, but collectively as a group, offensively, as a receiving corps, I think they make the difference in Bryce Young taking the next step in his career.
- [27:15]
Chad Johnson
I agree. I think him I like Ibuka also for the simple fact. How healthy is Chris? God will. God would be upon his return. Is he only. Is he going. I, I don't think he's on pup, but so it's going to be interesting to see how he used. Cause you know, we know Baker can throw it. We. Hey, you got Mr. Consistency on one side. Evans, Mike Evans and then so Bucha could really have a huge year. But I, but, but I like McMillan also. Long angular guy, what he's like 6, 3, 6, 4, make tough contested catches. He good run after the catch. Yeah, I, I mean I think he's good. I think Matthew Golden. I mean you look, you look at Romeo Dobbs. You mentioned Christian Watson, you mentioned Reed. They got a lot, they got a lot of receivers. They don't really have a guy that like, okay, this is the guy that you got to worry about. You kind of got to worry about them all because at any given moment, because you know, it might be Dobbs weeks, one week and then it'd be Christian Watson. Watson's biggest thing is stay healthy.
- [28:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, hey, he can put him up and put him down. Hell, he can put him up. The goddamn packers got a four by one team, huh? They got a four by one team. Dubs Watson, Reed can fly. Golden can fly. Man, stop.
- [28:48]
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I, I think McMillan Abuka would have the biggest. But I'm not going to sleep on, you know, Luther Burton. A lot of people thought he'd be a first round draft pick receive out of Missouri. He go, he goes to the bears. They got D.J. moore, they got Roma Dunze. They drafted a tight end in the first round. They still have cold Comet, they've upgraded their offensive line. They should be. And they got Detroit's old offensive coordinator is the head coach calling the place.
- [29:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Creativity.
- [29:19]
Chad Johnson
Yeah. So they should definitely be better offensively. And if they are better offensively, well, big number because if you look at Detroit, you look at Jameson Williams had had phenomenal season. You look at Amaranth Brown.
- [29:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh yeah.
- [29:41]
Chad Johnson
A big season.
- [29:42]
Shannon Sharpe
You know what's funny is Amon Ross St. Brown, he's one of the top five receivers, depending on how you put him in numerical order in the NFL. Well, I really don't think it didn't matter who was calling the goddamn plays because he's so good at just route running in general. He's. He's a polished one. You know what? I don't have to scheme you open. He's one of those where offensive coordinators and your head coach. You know what? I can sleep at night because I don't. I ain't got to worry about that one. It don't matter who we playing. I don't have to worry about him. I know what he can do. So you add what he can do in his skill set, in his DNA and then you, you put that with the creativity that Ben Johnson has. You get what you saw last, last year. You get magic. You get magic. Now, I don't know if there's anyone like that with that type of skill set, similar to Aman Ross St. Brown on the Bears, but DJ Moore is damn good. He's not that far behind.
- [30:34]
Chad Johnson
He. Not. He's not. He. He doesn't have that short area of quickness like that. That's. That's not, that's not what he is. He's. Can he play the slot? Yeah, but he's an outside the number. He and Roman Dunes is outside the number type of guys.
- [30:47]
Shannon Sharpe
All right, so you're gonna be all right. The good thing about it is, is Ben Johnson is going to understand and know his player strengths and put them in position to be able to make those plays and not allow them to be exposed. And whatever that we can see is that we can't see watching from home. We don't know it. They know it.
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- [32:51]
Chad Johnson
And Justin Fields preseason debut against the Packers. Field was ultra efficient. He was 3 or 4 on passing, 42 yards, ran the ball twice for 14 yards and didn't take a single sack. Fields orchestrated a sharp opening drive against the packers starting defense, capping it off with a 13 yard rushing touchdown. This set the tone for an excellent preseason open for Aaron Glenn squad. Does Phil remaining calm, composed in a controlled pocket. What do you think, Ocho? Do you think, did you like what you saw from him?
- [33:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely. Absolutely. Listen, we saw, we saw flashes of brilliance when he was with the Bears. We saw flashes of what he can do when he's with the Pittsburgh Steelers. So what we saw tonight is what we expected from Fields. It's all about him just being consistent and being able to do it week to week to week. He's always wanted his opportunity to be a starting quarterback. I think he wasn't dealt a fair deal in Chicago because when you look at the Chicago Bears and that organization and the way they conducted and handled quarterbacks throughout the years, it hasn't been great at all. It hasn't been great at all. It just hasn't. Now things are a little different. Got Ben Johnson there, Caleb Williams, things are different the way they're running the system. Obviously in Pittsburgh, Russ was promised a starting job. Russ gets hurt. Justin Field comes in. He plays phenomenal. He plays phenomenal. But obviously once Russ gets Healthy, Russ. I mean, Justin Field is bench. Boom. Damn it. Can I just get opportunity. Can I get an opportunity to shine and show what I can do with the quarterback position? I can be quarterback number one if you put me in a situation that is advantageous for me and my skill set. Now that in New York with a players coach that played the game and understands exactly what you can and can do and going to do what he needs to do to make sure you're successful, you got Garrett Wilson, Unk. I don't know who, and I can't remember his last name. I meant to write it down. I don't know if it was a fullback that kept making those plays tonight or tight end. I think he wore 47. I think it was wearing 47. Hey, young bull popped out on film. He popped out on film to the point. Well, I don't, I don't know who this is, but I guarantee you he's going to have a starting job. I don't know if it was a fullback or a tight end, but he was balling.
- [35:00]
Chad Johnson
Jess had 403 yards. Total yards. Green Bay had two turnovers. Time of possession was 38, 41. Jets 21, 19. First downs was 21 to 12 in favor of the Jets. Like I said, I think his name is J To Feli. He made a team tonight. He did. With two sacks and he had a fumble recovery for a touchdown. Yeah.
- [35:32]
Shannon Sharpe
You gonna be all right?
- [35:33]
Chad Johnson
Yeah, but I think that's. That's the key for him. The Jet show that showed Justin Fields that they wanted him. Yeah, they gave a two year deal. They put him in. He. He's the starter. They do have Tyrod to be his backup, but that's what he wanted. That's why he didn't go back to Pittsburgh. He said no. Y' all already showed what y' all want. Y' all already did me. How y' all gonna do his version? You're not gonna do me dirty twice.
- [35:57]
Shannon Sharpe
Listen, Pittsburgh is a situation where there's a young lady that wants you. She wants you. She don't want nobody else to have you, so she puts you in the friend zone until the dude, she really won't get his act together. Okay? Now I'm gonna put you off the on the bench. Now I'm gonna. I'm gonna go deal with Russ. That's what I really. That's the situation last year. So listen, you get smart. That ain't the situation that's ideal for me and where I want to go. New York is perfect for him.
- [36:21]
Chad Johnson
Right.
- [36:21]
Shannon Sharpe
He got somebody that actually wants him. When you have somebody that actually wants you, you're able to play freely, understanding. Okay. I don't have to look over my shoulder. I don't have the pressure of having to do everything perfect and do everything right. I can just play football.
- [36:39]
Chad Johnson
That's the thing. And I think AG you know, they moved over Aaron Rogers basically for Justin Fields.
- [36:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [36:50]
Chad Johnson
And.
- [36:50]
Shannon Sharpe
But he made it easy for him, huh? Made it easy. No, you have someone like AG AG ain't playing with that. I'm not sure if I'm ready. I don't know if I'm buying in. I don't know if I'm be there for training camp. I don't know if I want to take a dog, man. AJ ain't got time for that. I'm trying to change the entire culture and I need players that are bored. And whether you've been playing five years or we've been playing 20, I need you on the same page with me and ej. He just wasn't.
- [37:15]
Chad Johnson
Only if you're a relative, do you have tolerance for BS as a person Age?
- [37:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [37:23]
Chad Johnson
You know, you, you a. If. If that person's not related to you though, people like, yeah, man, you know, old people and you know, look at this juncture. AG coming in as a new coach, he needs everybody to be bought in. Aaron being as great as he is and being who he is, he can easily sway a locker room. So I think for AG to looking at it like for me to make sure I still have control of this locker room, let's just move on. Because I'm not so sure if Aaron. There was something. Did AG want to hear Aaron say something? Unless Aaron came in that thing turning back flips like, yes, sir. Let's go AG I'm ready. Unless he got that, they probably was going to move on anyway. Ojo. They probably gonna move on.
- [38:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [38:16]
Chad Johnson
And. But hopefully Justin can seize this opportunity because this is a perfect opportunity. This might be the best opportunity because, you know, when he went to Chicago, you knew he was going to be the starter. They just didn't have the pieces around him. And I don't know if that system was conducive and the coach was conducive. Now he has another defensive minded head coach, but I think AG has. Has an offensive guy that can put Justin Fields in position to be successful.
- [38:49]
Shannon Sharpe
And listen, you would do. Let's understand what Justin Field has at his disposal over there with the jets as well. You got Breeze hall, you got brother, Brother Allen, who looks like. Who looks like a Derrick Henry. Who looks the part? I mean, I'm not saying he's Derek. Derrick Henry. I'm just saying they have a one, two punch at the running back position. We have one of top 10 receivers in the NFL, depending on where you slay them at, depending on where you want him at. And Garrett Wilson. Well, God damn. Who's the number two? Hey, Chad, who's the number two at receiver, man, with the Jets? It's slipping my mind. Damn.
- [39:37]
Chad Johnson
You think. I mean, hey, look, Alan Lazar. Still there. Alan Lazar. Josh Reynolds. Josh Reynolds. You remember Josh Reynolds? I think he played for the. He played for the Rams. I think he was in, like, Tennessee.
- [39:56]
Shannon Sharpe
So.
- [39:58]
Chad Johnson
Was he or was he in Detroit? I'm almost certain he was at the Rams.
- [40:07]
Shannon Sharpe
So hold on. They got Alan Lazard and Josh Reynolds. So that's the. That's the two and the three.
- [40:12]
Chad Johnson
And Gary Wilson. Yeah, but he's trying to find out we know Gary Wilson, that we trying to find the other receivers, but that is Josh Reynolds, that he's with the Rams. I think he's with Tennessee.
- [40:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Or.
- [40:25]
Chad Johnson
Did I say. Or was it Lions? Okay. Yeah. He with the Broncos. You like ag? You think AG is the right fit for the Jazz?
- [40:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely. Absolutely. Listen, you. You need a player like that that can deal with that media. Forget in house.
- [40:48]
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
- [40:48]
Shannon Sharpe
Forget the football stuff. Give me somebody with a mindset and a mentality that can deal with all the. And the stereotypes that come along with being the head coach in a market of that magnitude. Once you get something that's ready for that. Okay, now I can work on everything else. I can work from the top on down. And AG's the right. Right player for that.
- [41:08]
Chad Johnson
And he played in New York, so.
- [41:10]
Shannon Sharpe
He definitely understand one thing about it. Even though he played in New York. You understand how those newspapers are. You ain't getting no cut either. We ain't giving you no break either. But if things ain't going right, we gonna hop on YouTube. But hey, the newspaper. The newspaper outlets and media outlets are ruthless. And I don't know who creates some of the headlines sometimes. Boy, they so creative.
- [41:34]
Chad Johnson
That's what they say. If you can make it in New York, you can make it anywhere.
- [41:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Make it anywhere.
- [41:39]
Chad Johnson
Hey.
- [41:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey. Just sitting here talking about all this quarterback play, man, it just remind me of my day, man, at Beach High, man. Remind me of my days at Beach High, man. You know, I was one of the best in the state. Huh? Huh? You hear me? I wanted the best in the state.
- [41:53]
Chad Johnson
No, you one of the best. Delivery.
- [41:54]
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, no, no. In the state. I'm talking about in the world. I was one of the best in the world. You know what's funny? For me. For me to play quarterback at Miami Beach Senior High in 1996. I still remember my receivers. My number one and my number two. Dwight Stirrup and Richard Lucelle. My little. That's my little Zoe. Dwight. Dwight Story. I mean, Dwight was my homeboy. Yeah.
- [42:17]
Chad Johnson
Ojo, you think Joe Montana could tell you who his wide receivers were in college or. I do not. You only had two or three.
- [42:24]
Shannon Sharpe
But see, my. My two. Dwight Stirrup and Richard Lucelle. That's my Zoe. Richard Lucelle. That's my Zoe. Stop, I say, Richard, if you see this, you know, hey, we was out there doing work. My. Hey, listen, my running back was Toby Wilson. Oh, my goodness. Boy, he was. Oh, you should have saw me out there.
- [42:41]
Chad Johnson
Okay, Named off his line. Name your five offensive linemen. At Oregon. At Oregon State.
- [42:45]
Shannon Sharpe
At Oregon State, Yeah. I played receiver.
- [42:48]
Chad Johnson
I don't know exactly. That's my point.
- [42:52]
Shannon Sharpe
I was running the office like this. Blue 80. Blue 80. Hey, Mike, you hot, you hot. You get two. You get two off the mic. You hot, boy. Yeah, Alert, alert. And then I go to the gun. Hey, uncle, I go to the gun.
- [43:10]
Chad Johnson
He didn't do none of that.
- [43:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, hey, uncle, I used to be. Hey, I used to be killing that thing at quarterback. I had him. I had on the number two, too. Hey, you got to remember. Remember, I was the baby when I was a freshman. D. Starks was the quarterback. Samari Rowe was a receiver. Terry Cousins was playing running back. So you gotta. You gotta understand.
- [43:32]
Chad Johnson
And y' all won seven games. We was good.
- [43:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Now, hey, you gotta understand who we played again.
- [43:36]
Chad Johnson
Seven games.
- [43:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Some good competition, man. Miami Northwestern, Miami Central, Edison High School. Them boy was stacked back then. What?
- [43:46]
Chad Johnson
I ain't hear none of them players. I ain't hear none of them name. Which? I'll name all the guys that you name played in the NFL.
- [43:51]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm just telling you the quality that my school had. We had good quality. We had.
- [43:57]
Chad Johnson
So what happened to the wins, huh? What quality? Tell me. The quality wins. I know y' all had quality players.
- [44:02]
Shannon Sharpe
What about quality wins? Now? I just don't remember the records from back then. That's a very long time ago.
- [44:09]
Chad Johnson
You know your record were y' all 14 and 1. 15, 0, 13, 2.
- [44:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Obviously, no, we weren't able to state.
- [44:15]
Chad Johnson
Y' all lost to the state championship. Y' all lost in the Semifinals. Quarterfinals.
- [44:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Damn. I can't remember, but I did score. Hey, listen, what I can tell you is I scored four touchdowns in one game, and nobody. Nobody's done than that. Nobody scored four touchdowns in one game.
- [44:31]
Chad Johnson
Did y' all win that game?
- [44:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, yes. Matter of fact, we almost beat Miami Northwestern the year they won state. One of the greatest. One of the greatest high school receivers I saw with my own eyes. Marvin. Snoop Minnis out of the Scott projects that played for Florida State, played with Kansas City for a little bit before he got hurt. I've never seen nothing like Snoop Minis. Born high school. Oh, my. Yeah.
- [44:56]
Chad Johnson
Ocho, what am I supposed to do? We almost beat the team that won the state.
- [45:00]
Shannon Sharpe
What am I supposed to do? I'm just trying to. I'm just trying to relive my story of high school, that's all. I'm just. Hey, I'm just sharing that story. So if we talking football, it's taking me down memory lane. Can we talk about the young Bulls that's going into the NFL? They got an opportunity to start at the highest level, and it just brought me back to where it all started, that's all. I'm just sharing my feelings and my story, that's all. My bad.
- [45:27]
Chad Johnson
That's bad. It sucks. It sucks being you, Ocho. It sucks being old. You want to be young so bad to go back out there with the boy.
- [45:35]
Shannon Sharpe
I do, Unc. I'm doing. Because, listen, I'm really not old. Like, it makes me upset, and it kind of bothers me when people call me Unk and I think about it. Well, why you calling me Unc? And I look younger than you sometimes. Like, you know. You know, it's like, what you mean? But, I mean, look at you. Well, you look 50. You look 60, you know, because you. You're drinking your life away and you're smoking and all that. But my body feel good, huh? You hear me? I ain't never been hurt. I don't have no injuries. I take care of myself.
- [46:05]
Chad Johnson
You know, you go back out there, you'll be hurt.
- [46:08]
Shannon Sharpe
You think so? I think. I think. I think I have the. The. The. The self awareness and the IQ to be able to protect myself if given the opportunity to play at the highest level.
- [46:21]
Chad Johnson
You think so?
- [46:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I don't. I might not have the speed. I still have my. My. My lateral movement, my quick.
- [46:29]
Chad Johnson
No, it ain't the same.
- [46:30]
Shannon Sharpe
It ain't the same. But even if it's not the same, it's still better than what's out There.
- [46:35]
Chad Johnson
No, you don't think so? You don't lost too much of it. Your spidey senses don't tingle anymore. Yeah, because they. They ain't been on. You ain't turned them on in a long time. It's like a car. You could have a baddest car. You could have a Bugatti. Pay 6 bill $6 million for it. But don't let it run. Put it. Put it in your garage and don't cut it on for 12 years, 14 years, 15 years.
- [46:58]
Shannon Sharpe
You're right. You're right.
- [46:59]
Chad Johnson
You think it's gonna crank?
- [47:01]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it should. It should.
- [47:04]
Chad Johnson
No, it won't. And then. And then you're gonna have to. Then you have to go take it to the shop, get all the fluids flushed. Oh, man. You gotta realize, don't you? You haven't run like that. Yeah, yeah, like that. Like you used to run in a very long time.
- [47:23]
Shannon Sharpe
You're right. You're right. You're right.
- [47:25]
Chad Johnson
I think there's a greater chance that you will hurt something than you go out there and look like your old self.
- [47:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, hey. Put a chat on my head, boy. Hey, they. So what is it they call you all kind of names? Chad Hurts. Chad Leaf, Chad Bledsoe, Chad DeVito.
- [47:53]
Chad Johnson
Pete Carroll was asked today about Geno Smith. Obscene gesture as he defended his quarterback. He said, did you see the sign? Did you see what the sign said? Next question. Well, we know what the sign said. Bigger bus. Gino or Jamarcus Russell? Was Gino and Max Crosby overreacting?
- [48:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I mean, I wouldn't. That's a tough one. I wouldn't say overreacted. Boom. You're talking trash to me. You got a sign right in my face. All I've done for you. I'm back here in Seattle and that's what you think of me? I laid my life on the line as your quarterback number one for a couple of years. You know, things didn't work out. And that's how you think of me? I'm coming back. I'm coming back with grace. I love you. I did everything I could for you as a Seahawk. And that's how you feel now? You feel I'm a bus. What are we talking about, huh? If anything, you should be applauding me. Clap for me. I know as a quarterback, number one, you hold me to a standard as is. Is. Is. Is. In comparison to some of the greats. I wasn't Tom Brady, I wasn't Peyton Manning. But I done all I could and laid it on the line for you week in and week out. 12.
- [49:11]
Chad Johnson
Well, look, it's not even. It's not even close to being true. Now if Gino Smith was Ryan Leaf. Okay, we have a conversation. I mean, him or Jamarcus?
- [49:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Don't do that. As a fan. Like, come on, man.
- [49:26]
Chad Johnson
Gino was comeback player of the year. He threw a career high 30 touchdown, lead the league in completion percentage and earned back to back pro bowls. So by no stretch of the imagination is Geno Smith a bust.
- [49:39]
Shannon Sharpe
No, no. But I mean, listen, fans do certain things to get up under your skin.
- [49:42]
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
- [49:43]
Shannon Sharpe
You know, you leave a situation most of the time and you come back. Some people let their true feelings show on how they really feel about you. Now, I understand you might be to the Seahawks, but all I've done. This is how you really feel about me? Truthfully, now that I'm not here?
- [50:03]
Chad Johnson
Yes.
- [50:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Like, come on, man, don't do. Don't do me like that.
- [50:06]
Chad Johnson
Yes.
- [50:08]
Shannon Sharpe
Don't do me like that. You mean I dated you for four, five, six years. And now that I'm going, wait, this is how you truly feel about me now that I'm no longer around? Because that hurts. That stings. So I can understand where the middle finger came from. I understand. Like, what are we talking about? I sacrificed you to make you happy. On Sundays at 1 o', clock, I was throwing touchdown, the DK and Tyler Lockett to make you happy.
- [50:39]
Chad Johnson
Noah Fant I. A lot of players play for teammates, respect coaches, trust, fans, appreciation. I guess you didn't appreciate me as much as I thought you did.
- [50:59]
Shannon Sharpe
I like that.
- [51:01]
Chad Johnson
So it does hurt. It does when you put it what you. When you put what you put into it. LeBron might not ever admit this, but it hurt him going back to Cleveland, considering what he gave him. Yeah, he left. But bro, I did lay it on the line for you. I gave you seven great years. Did all I could. And then you burned my jersey. You say all these things about Gino's, like I had. I. I resurrected my career in Seattle. All I wanted was to be appreciated. I know my teammates respected me. I know my coaches trusted me. Does when you put. When you put a lot into something Granny used to say all the time, boy, I hate an ungrateful person. That irks me too. That irks me too. I hate ungratefulness. We see out of the best sometimes. You better be careful what you wish for. You thought you. I. I guess you didn't like. You didn't like Gino. Well, ain't no Ain't no. Ain't no thing that you're getting. What's his. Came from Minnesota. What's the guy?
- [52:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Sam Darnold.
- [52:43]
Chad Johnson
Sam Darnold, yeah. Ain't no guarantee. He ain't got the weapons that he had in Minnesota.
- [52:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [52:51]
Chad Johnson
He ain't got no Jetta, he ain't got no Addison, he ain't got Hawkinson, he ain't got Aaron Jones, and he ain't got Kevin o' Connell calling plays. And we saw the last. We saw the last two games, right? Did you see the last two games? What was the craziest sign you saw as a player?
- [53:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, man, that's a good one. Huh? That's. That's a good one. Hey. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. I enjoy those environments, too, Uncle. I. I. Oh, my goodness. The craziest sign. Probably the. The. The. The OO instead of OO Cinco. Probably OO stinko. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Most of the time. And then it's so funny. They would have their signs. They would have their signs, and I would talk trash back and, you know, I walk up to the stage.
- [53:53]
Chad Johnson
Did you sign one of their signs? Didn't you sign somebody sign?
- [53:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Always. Yeah, always. Always sign that sign and listen. And they always say the same thing. Listen, we do this because we love you. It has nothing to play for the wrong team. But you won our favorites. And everybody say the same thing. They don't really mean it, but they don't have a choice but to go against me if you really did suc.
- [54:14]
Chad Johnson
Nobody says the guy today, getting in the game, you suck.
- [54:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Right? Right.
- [54:18]
Chad Johnson
It's only the players that's really good that suck, which means you don't. You don't actually suck. That means you're very, very good. Ain't nobody booing Tom Brady's backup. They booing Brady. Yeah, they're not booed. They not booed to Payton, man. The guy. I guarantee you, if. If the quarterback, I mean, look, they're gonna blue the opposing team. But the loudest moves. Let's just say Tom Brady wasn't first. He was third.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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Chad Johnson
They gonna be looking for Brady because they want to boo him. You boo greatness.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I said I love playing in hostile environments. I love.
- [55:00]
Chad Johnson
Love.
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Shannon Sharpe
I couldn't listen. Playing at home is cool. That's fun.
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Chad Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
I like people cursing and talking trash. And although that did. That was just. I was so comfortable being uncomfortable and hostile.
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Chad Johnson
Well, y'.
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Shannon Sharpe
All.
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Chad Johnson
Y' all rival. Y' all rival. Was. Was Cleveland, because, remember when Sam White got on the Phone and said, don't throw batteries. You live in Cincinnati, you don't live in Cleveland.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right?
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Chad Johnson
Yeah, that was, that was you guys. Because you're both in Ohio.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah. Battle of Ohio. Right.
- [55:36]
Chad Johnson
So it's. It's a. It's a natural. It's a natural rivalry.
- [55:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [55:44]
Chad Johnson
I mean, look, there was no love lost in the. Before they renamed the AFC north, it was the AFC Central.
- [55:50]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [55:52]
Chad Johnson
I think it was still the AFC Central. When you got in. They changed it like in O2, they went to the. For the eight. The eight. The four team divisions because it used to be Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Baltimore, Tennessee and Jacksonville. We were all in one division, Ocho. We all. We were all in one division.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's crazy.
- [56:22]
Chad Johnson
And then they, you know, they split it up and then they took Jacksonville and Tennessee and put them in the South. You know, we used to be in Seattle, used to be in the AFC West. Then they went to the NFC West. But it states the Chargers, the Raiders, us in Kansas City. But like, when you got like the rate the Raiders, you know, obviously the Raiders and. And was our biggest rivals because we came in. They came in like the AFL together, the Chiefs. But it's different play. It's definitely different playing on the road than at home. You feel it as you driving in. Everybody's already tailgating, you know? You know what I'm saying, Ocho? They already tailgating and they. They do it. They throw in the football. They got. They drinking beer all like. How the hell y' all drinking beer.
- [57:15]
Shannon Sharpe
At nine o' clock in the morning?
- [57:17]
Chad Johnson
Yeah, but they, you know, they getting their thing. They getting their big grilling. Cleveland, Cleveland fans, I will give them credit for as little as they've won in the last 30 plus years. The Mofos show up every look, I can understand, Ocho had. They went to the AFC championship game or they went to the super bowl. And even if they lost, but the way they show up for their team to not win more than what they do.
- [57:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [57:54]
Chad Johnson
I ain't seen nothing like it. Ain't no way I'm gonna go sit down there, Nicole, let alone get up and tailgate.
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Shannon Sharpe
14.
- [58:02]
Chad Johnson
That's going 4 and 4 and 13. 4 and 12.
- [58:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, no, listen, I had. I had a special relationship with those Cleveland fans, especially Big Dog. I'm not sure what Big Dog is at this point. Every time I do, I'm on here, we talk about Cleveland. I always curious how Big Dog is doing. Everyone that sat in that, I think that might be the north. The north end zone. They show such love in a hostile way. And I made sure to show that love back. Even though obviously they're. They're the opposing fans. But I've always showed them respect. They've always showed me respect. And they knew, understood when it was game time, huh? When it's game time. Yeah, man, forget you. We gonna have some fun. And I remember, I remember getting permission. I think I might be the only person that's done that and been accepting of that is when I did, I leaped in the dog pound. Remember? You remember when I jumped in the dog pound? So I asked Big Dog, I asked Big Dog before the game started. I say, listen, if I happen to score on this end, I want to jump to you. No disrespect, but let me jump to you. And he said, yeah, well, come on and do it. And longer.
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Chad Johnson
You know, he one person, right?
- [59:08]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, Big dog. Yeah. One part big, Big man. Big man.
- [59:10]
Chad Johnson
But there are more people in the, in the pound than him.
- [59:13]
Shannon Sharpe
I know, I know. Listen, I scored on that aunt Unc. And I looked for him and I saw him. I jumped right to him. Everybody else around, man, I smell like beer. The whole the rest of the game.
- [59:23]
Chad Johnson
They shove your ass out the club.
- [59:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Let me right out the club. But listen, that was, hey, that was a great moment for me, man. That was a great moment.
- [59:30]
Chad Johnson
You wild for that one?
- [59:32]
Shannon Sharpe
It was awesome. It was awesome.
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