Club Shay Shay – "Best of NFL Preseason Week 2 Part 1: Dillon Gabriel Throwing SHADE?! + Giants QB Room"

Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Date: August 20, 2025
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (not present in transcript), Ocho, Chad
Episode Theme: Breaking down key storylines from NFL preseason Week 2, including rookie quarterback performances, debates about team decisions, and a spirited discussion about comments made by Dillon Gabriel.

Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the most intriguing storylines of the NFL's second preseason week, with a lively, highly opinionated back-and-forth between Ocho and Chad. They explore quarterback controversies, rookies showing promise or struggling, and off-field narratives making headlines—especially the tension surrounding Dillon Gabriel’s "entertainer vs. competitor" comment.

Giants Quarterback Room: Who's Staying, Who's Going?

Key Points

• Rookie Performance:
  Jackson Dart (Giants’ rookie first-round pick) impressed across two games, strengthening speculation about his spot on the depth chart:

  • Game 1 (vs. Bills): 12/19, 154 yards, 1 TD
  • Game 2 (vs. Jets): 14/16, 137 yards, 1 pass TD, 1 rush TD, 0 INTs

• QB Depth:
  Debate over whether Giants will keep three or four quarterbacks:

  • Russell Wilson: Clear day-one starter
  • Jackson Dart: Solid #2 QB potentially
  • Jameis Winston: Veteran presence valued for leadership

Timestamps & Notable Quotes

• Discussion on keeping all quarterbacks
  Chad: "The fact that they're keeping all three of them is a really good thing because Jackson Dart... will be developing and would be the practice squad quarterback." (05:53)

  Ocho: "Do you really keep the veteran as the third guy?" (06:22)

  Chad: "Absolutely. Because... He adds more value outside of just being on the field as a starting quarterback." (06:35)

• Locker Room Value
  Chad: "You don't let a locker room presence like that go. You just don't." (06:46)

• Economic Realities
  Ocho: "Salaries are exploding so much... You used to be able to keep a veteran guy, 'cause the numbers were low. They were favorable." (07:11)

• Final Prediction Chad: "I can't remember a scenario where there were four quarterbacks on the team. I can remember every scenario. There was always three." (33:27) Ocho: Points out the rare exceptions like the 2000 Patriots, but acknowledges "It's a different time now." (34:22)

Justin Fields & Jets' Offensive Struggles

• Fields Stat Line:
  Started hot but ended the game 0-for-3 targeting Garrett Wilson. Ocho and Chad note the lack of a true #2 wide receiver to complement Wilson as a major issue.

• Receiver Depth
  The hosts discuss Alan Lazard and Josh Reynolds as supporting wideouts, but Ocho says, "When you... get paid 30 million... you ain't got no excuses. Go get open." (09:02)

• Stability & Pressure
  Chad: "Justin Fields is finally getting his turn. He doesn't have to look over his shoulder. This is your team. This is your make-or-break year." (10:21)

"Entertainer or Competitor?" – The Dillon Gabriel Controversy

Storyline

Dillon Gabriel, after a mixed performance with a pick-six and a fumble, raised eyebrows postgame with the statement: "There are entertainers and there are competitors, and my job is to compete." (13:59)
He later clarified, claiming the comment was directed at the media, not teammate Shador Sanders, but the hosts debate whether he was taking a subtle shot.

Key Points & Heated Exchanges

• Was it shade at Shador?
  Ocho: "I disagree with you. I think he was taking a shot at Shador." (16:33)
  Chad: "You think so?" (16:36)
  Ocho argues that the language and timing echo past criticisms of Shador's “entertainer” persona.

• Ocho Lays Out the Case:
  Ocho: "Name the time you’ve ever heard someone say, 'There are entertainers and there are competitors, and I’m here to compete.' Tell me the time." (16:51)

  Ocho: "We've heard people say that’s what he’s more interested in doing." (17:07)

• Chad Counters:
  Chad is skeptical Gabriel would be brash enough, “I don't even think he has the balls to be able to say something like that out the blue... If it was Johnny Manziel or Baker Mayfield, I’d see it.” (20:32)

• Wider NFL Context:
  Ocho: "Floyd Mayweather was an entertainer. Michael Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, Steph—entertainers AND competitors. To try to make those two things mutually exclusive is just not true." (20:03)

• Community Reaction:
  Host reads the live chat's mixed reaction: "88% said it was a shot, 12% said it was not." (25:42)

  Chad: “If there's no address on it, it doesn't have a destination. I'm not throwing hints and doing no riddles. This ain't, you know, Dr. Seuss or Cat in the Hat." (26:05)

Quarterback Competitions: Browns, Colts, and the Perils of Preseason

Browns’ Crowded QB Room

• Multiple QBs in play (Wilson, Shador, Gabriel, others).

• Practice squad and active roster logistics; not enough spots for all.

  Ocho: "To have four active quarterbacks... means you're going to probably have to go without a wide receiver or... defensive lineman... those are guys that can play special teams. Your quarterback's not doing that." (35:29)

Colts Quarterback Battle: Daniel Jones vs. Anthony Richardson

Key Moments

• Richardson’s Upside & Frustration Chad: "Anthony Richardson is supposed to be like our new version of Cam Newton. That's the kind of potential..." (60:05) Ocho: "After this year, Richardson’s supposed to be going to the table for one of those $250M, $300M deals." (60:34)

• Jones Getting the Nod Both believe Daniel Jones has the edge, especially after the team invested $14M for him on a one-year deal versus Richardson’s $3.8M salary:

  • Chad: "14 ain't sitting on a bench, I can tell you that." (58:36)
  • Ocho: "Why bring a guy in to make $14 million if he’s gonna be the backup?" (57:27)

• Coach's View Colts HC Shane Steichen: “I've seen obviously three weeks of it. So I like to have a decision here shortly. I'm very close, I'll say that. I'm very, very close.” (51:36)

Side Notes & Humorous Moments

• Funniest Line
  Chad’s Top 3 Hardest Things in Life:

  1. "Find a franchise QB for 10 years or more."
  2. "Hit a baseball at 95 MPH on a consistent basis."
  3. "Try keeping a woman happy long-term, outside the honeymoon phase." (40:01)

• Relationship Digression
  The hosts briefly riff on marriage and relationships, using analogies back to the football world (41:41—43:50).
  Chad: "Out of 32 years married, how many of those were happy? The first three." (40:49)

Segment Timestamps (Key Sections)

• [02:38] – Giants QB room analysis, depth chart debates
• [07:29] – Justin Fields & Jets receiver depth
• [13:59] – The Dillon Gabriel “entertainer vs. competitor” controversy kicks off
• [20:32–26:05] – Debate: Did Gabriel throw shade at Shador?
• [33:27] – Roster logistics: Three QBs vs. four
• [51:36] – Colts HC on QB competition status
• [60:05] – High expectations for Anthony Richardson, the Cam Newton comp
• [40:01] – Chad’s top three hardest things in life

Quotes of the Episode

• Ocho: "I've been very, very impressed with Jackson Dart through the first two weeks." (07:29)
• Ocho: "When you get paid 30 million... you ain't got no excuses. Go get open.” (09:02)
• Chad: “You don't let a locker room presence like that go. You just don't.” (06:46)
• Ocho: "Floyd Mayweather was an entertainer. Yes, but he was a competitor." (20:02)
• Chad: “14 ain't sitting on a bench, I can tell you that.” (58:36)
• Chad: "Three hardest things in life: NFL team to find a 10-year franchise QB, hit a 95 MPH fastball, keep a woman happy after the honeymoon phase." (40:01)

Summary Takeaways

• Young quarterbacks are a focal point: Who will develop fastest? Who is truly ready?
• Veteran QBs matter more than their stats; leadership counts, but hard roster choices loom.
• Media narratives and player comments (“entertainer” vs. “competitor”) are under more scrutiny than ever.
• Contract size and off-field value still drive questionable decisions.
• Chad and Ocho keep the debate loose, real, and full of football wisdom and barbershop-level jokes.

This episode is a must-listen for fans glued to NFL preseason battles and anyone who loves spirited, unfiltered football talk.