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Hello, it's your favorite sports unc here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you, so please subscribe or you're going to make Ocho cry. The Chargers take down the Kansas City Chiefs by the score of 2721. This is the reason what you saw tonight, is that why Justin Herbert is held in Such high regards. 25 of 34, 318, three touchdowns and the game ceiling drive in which he took off and run after Chris Jones. And we saw the two guys getting it on the sideline. Tranquil said, that's not your responsibility. You got outside, got rushed, you tried to cross the guy's face, you got washed down. When you know there's nobody, there's no support over there. That's why he was going at Chris Jones. That is not your responsibility to go inside. If that guy starts up the middle and then gets outside, ain't nothing you can do, cj. But that's why he and Tranquil was getting it on the sideline. On the sideline. He's like, do your job. That's not your job. Do your job. But the Chiefs go on the road in Brazil and they win a ball game. 20, 27, 21. It's been a long time since the Chiefs have lost a one score game. But Ocho, I saw some things tonight that I don't like what I'm seeing with the Chiefs. Offensively, I think they'll be okay. They need to be able to run the football better. Yeah, I mean they got, I mean they can't run the football. Those scrambles by Mahomes, come on. I can't count on my home to give me 57 yards rushing the game, Mocho. But watching this game, looking at the Chargers, they did win. They took down the three time defending AFC champs and they did it in fine fashion. What did you like about what you saw from the charges?
Ocho Cinco
Listen, the first thing about the charge that I did like, I like what Justin Herbert did. Listen, the game was a little sloppy in the beginning, but as the game went on, the Chargers offense played extremely well again. Another thing, my favorite receiver, one of my favorite receivers in the NFL is Ladarius McConkey. Ladarius McConkey look extremely well. He's picking up exactly where he Left off last year.
Bucky Brooks
Yes.
Ocho Cinco
The addition of Kenan Allen and Quentin Johnston. If we can get. If we can get Quinn Johnson to be a little bit more consistent and catching. Catching the ball and try to eliminate some of the drops that he had last year, they are going to be all right. Because that defense, they was flying all over the place. They made some great plays. Derwin James. With Derwin James, Khalil Mack also contributed in. In some. In some important areas as well. On. On certain down and distances. And they. They look good. I thought the Chiefs had an opportunity to come back. I actually thought they were going to come back when he decided field goal towards the end of the game and chose allow stags in that defense to take over from there. But it. It was a. It was sloppy in the. It was a sloppy first half, but that really good.
Bucky Brooks
I'm watching. I don't know what Kelsey was thinking on that drive route. He watches. What's Derwin James. He does this. When a db. I see a DB does that. He's telling me his man coverage. He's telling me they're locking it.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
He tells me he does this. And that's why my home's like, what are you doing? And he knew it at the end. It's like, bro, you got to keep going. That's. That's what they. You call it. Drive a shallow cross. But whatever the case may be, he's a man coverage.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
All they got to do is if he keeps running, the ball's gonna hit him on the hands. He turns up, that's a touchdown.
Ocho Cinco
Perfect.
Bucky Brooks
Now, look, we don't know. I mean, now you possibly. Maybe they're onsided. They got their timeouts. Maybe they do what they did. But if Chris Jones takes that same angle, we're going to get the same result. We'll never know. But there were some mistakes that were made that you can't have. I mean, the first lay of the game, you got two guys running. You got two guys running crossing route, and somehow Kelsey picks his own guy and looks like he separated his shoulder, sprained his shoulder. I'm like, damn. How many times have you oo. How many times have you run crossing routes? I've never. In 14 years of running crossing routes, I've run the shallow cross, run the drive. Well, I'm the picker, and sometimes they're picking for me. I've never collided with my own guy.
Ocho Cinco
I mean, listen, it's all about. Understand. It's all about spacing, knowing where your depth is supposed to Be. And if you have somebody pressing you, which I think which might have been the problem, whoever was pressing, either threw Kelsey off his route. Either threw Kelsey off his line, which is why they ran into each other. But also, if it's man to man, you got to have your eyeline. You got to have your eyeline up in front to see what's in front of you anyway. So I'm not sure. I'm not sure how that happened, Ocho.
Bucky Brooks
Plus, the fact is it's already understood. One of you are high, the other is low. One of you guys, one of you guys are three to five, the other guy five to seven. I don't know who's supposed to be high. I don't know who's supposed to be low.
Ocho Cinco
You can see Xavier Worthy was low. So that means Kelsey was supposed to be five to seven.
Bucky Brooks
I don't get it. I don't know. I don't. And like I said, I'm like, damn, guys. That's probably a precursor of things to come because Ocho, now how many times. That's the first 15. We don't talk about that. We had that and walk through. We discussed it last night right before the game. Hey, we talked about it. Hey, everybody. Like these plays coming out and damn, the first third down, this is what we get.
Ocho Cinco
You know what? That's the funny thing. When you talk about X in the nose on the way it's written on paper. And coaches wanted to look a certain way, but they don't take into account. When you have a defense out there, you have a person pushing and tugging you, certain things have to adjust. So Kelsey, if anything, if you got a man playing you, playing you, man to man, go an extra yard, maybe go two, and that doesn't happen.
Bucky Brooks
Hey, press me and I'm supposed to be the low guy. I run, I run in the line of scrimmage. I be behind the line of scrimmage. Hey, I the liable to pick your ass off. Oh, Joe, you know, I'm not going to collide with my own guy. They like, well, damn. They were like, damn, you should have just took the ball out of John's hand. I let way. Hey, he was fighting, pushing, tugging. And I'm not. I'm not going to let him throw the timing of the route off by pressing me and causing me to either get to gain depth. No, I already know I'm the low guy. And so it might be a situation. Look, I'm the low guy.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
And I got a pick for the high guy.
Ocho Cinco
Yes, sir.
Bucky Brooks
Okay, it is what it is. But the timing must be the timing, Ocho. But I'm not going to run into my own guy. That's what I'm not going to do. I'm not running into my own guy. Now I might run into the other guy and they call me for an illegal pick, but I'm not picking my own damn guy.
Ocho Cinco
And hold on. Not only did you pick him, he got hurt. And as soon as you got hurt, obviously, when you're running that cross like that and you're looking back at the quarterback, your body's relaxed. Yes, the body's relaxed. So anything that hits, especially that shoulder, the first thing I said, yeah, let's either grade 2 or grade 3 AC sprain right away when he didn't come back in the game.
Bucky Brooks
Cause grade one.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, you, you good. Grade one, you coming back in the game. But he missed the whole game after that. I say it gotta be grade 2 or grade Ocho.
Bucky Brooks
How much shoulder strength do you think he got? He'll buck 60. So think about that, Ocho. He weighs 160 pounds.
Ocho Cinco
Yes, sir.
Bucky Brooks
He ain't got no, he ain't got no shoulder gun. And it doesn't take a whole lot to mess a shoulder up anyway. And especially when you don't have the muscle development in that area.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, especially when you're not looking up and your body, body relapse and just something hits you like that, you ain't.
Bucky Brooks
Because you don't get a chance to tense up.
Ocho Cinco
Yes. Bingo. Bingo.
Bucky Brooks
So a lot, a lot of times, if we know Ocho, we going across the middle, we gonna catch a pass.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
I get a chance to brace, but when I'm catching the pass and I'm relaxed.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. And I got it, it hurts that much more.
Bucky Brooks
Hell yeah, hurt.
Ocho Cinco
People need to understand when they see certain hits like that. When you know it's coming, you're able to brace, it doesn't hurt no matter what. Like it's the ones you don't see coming.
Bucky Brooks
Yes.
Ocho Cinco
Ready for it. That get you the worst?
Bucky Brooks
Yeah, I, I, I just. Look, they got up to a bad start. Hollywood Brown had an opportunity to get a first down on the second and he dropped it.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
I don't.
Ocho Cinco
Know.
Bucky Brooks
The second drive of the game, the stop route.
Ocho Cinco
Well, the defense.
Bucky Brooks
Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yes.
Ocho Cinco
He took his ass off the ball. He trying to get up out of there before he.
Bucky Brooks
That's the thing, Ocho. I really prided myself understanding how the game was going. Okay, the first drive, Ocho, we got off the Field in three plays.
Ocho Cinco
Yes, sir.
Bucky Brooks
The last thing I want to do is do north three and out, so I might just catch the ball and just drop. Because the most important thing is to stay on the field so we can get timing as an offense. Guys don't understand. They still try. Oh, let me bail up out of here. Well, now you just went two, three, and outs, and now you guess what? You. You. You're going to be further out of rhythm because it's going to be longer before you get back on the field. Guys need to understand. I saw Thornton. He's running. He go, look, understand the angle in which the guy's coming down. If he's coming down on the. He ain't chasing you like this. He's coming down at an angle like that. So if you try to cut back, he hit you. Even though you right there at the sticks, your momentum. You got no momentum to go forward. You got to go backwards. I'm like, guys, y' all don't think. Y' all. Guys don't. Guys don't really think no more. Ain't no way you're thinking like. You got to understand the angle in which he's coming. If I get it, Ocho, he coming like this, I stop, cut back, go behind you. But when he's coming down, you stop. You got no momentum. His momentum is going to hit you.
Ocho Cinco
And push you backwards every time. If anything, especially in that situation, you got to know as a receiver or a tight end, anybody catching the ball in that situation, it's third down.
Bucky Brooks
Yes, it's third down.
Ocho Cinco
You just catch that and turn straight up field right. I'm talking about right away, play another down instead of allowing to be four down and it being a 50, 50 chance on whether y' all get it or not to keep that drive going.
Bucky Brooks
I think the thing is sometimes, Ocho, is that guys, they don't really think about that. Every. Every play is not meant to be a big play. Every play is not meant to be a touchdown. You have to understand momentum. You have to understand where you are in the game. You, time of the game, what's it been like? Because there are a lot of times that maybe. Because sometimes you got to do stuff suddenly to get up out of there suddenly means taking your eyes off the. Taking your eyes off the ball and try to locate the guy. Because a lot of times, I mean, you. I mean, I've seen myself. I'm doing this, Ocho. I'm. Hey, the ball should be right there, and I've got. I'm Seeing where everybody's coming. Because I want to do something. Yeah, well, you can't do anything without the ball.
Ocho Cinco
No, not. Not at all.
Bucky Brooks
But it was. Things like that. But Ocho, they're going to have to run. They're going to have. Kansas City is going to have to do more of a concerted effort to run the football.
Ocho Cinco
I got a question. I'm glad you just said that. When you think about the Kansas City Chiefs, right, as Pacheco has been in the past, when did the Chiefs actually ever had a running game, though? When have you actually watched the team play and been like, you know what? We got to worry about the running game.
Bucky Brooks
You remember when they had Kareem Hunt?
Ocho Cinco
That's. Oh, before. Before he left the first time. Yes, yes, yes. But you know who else they have.
Bucky Brooks
But the Chiefs used to have a night. Well, they hadn't had so much of a running game with Andy because I don't think. I don't think Jamal Charles was there with Andy. I don't think. I think Jamal Charles was there. I have. I don't remember. But they got to run the football. They. They got it. They put a lot of pressure. And. And the thing was tonight, defensively, they couldn't get pressure on Herbert unless they blitzed. Tranquil got him twice. Coloftus got him early in the game when he tried to climb up in the pocket and Kalaftas fell back inside and got him, but they couldn't get pressure, generating four. So now, and it seems like when they bring pressure, it's like, guys, Nick is a hicks. What number 27 is it Hicks? Hold on. Cause I know he made a bunch of. Yeah, Hicks. Bro, bro. You got to be better. Yeah, you got to be better. You got to be better. The guy's screaming at you, you got no help to the seven. And you turn like he's gonna run a post and Johnson crosses your face.
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Ocho Cinco
Uh huh.
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Ocho Cinco
Hey. Hey, Unc. It's scary on that island like that. You know that? Huh? It's scary on that island. You know, the first. Most of the time when you're in a situation like that, you going for the first move. You're going for the first move because you. You got to understand the speed of the game. Us watching is different out there actually playing it, and you ain't got no help. So whatever. Whatever you see first, you getting up out of there, you're getting up out of there right away.
Bucky Brooks
The thing is, if he ran, if he did something different right on tape. Okay, so what is he showing us on tape? Because that's all I can base it on. Ocho.
Ocho Cinco
Right?
Bucky Brooks
That's all I can base it on. They give us something different. I'm gonna come to the sideline, coach. This is what they did. I know what we practice. I know. I know what we went over. I know what they show. This is what they showed us on tape. This is what we said we were going to do against them on tape. This is what they're doing, right? Okay, fine. So that's what we're going to have. That's what. We don't know. Oh, we don't know. But they run the inside because all they told. They run. They run the high. They run the high, low. So Basically, you got McCon, he studied. He gets to the flat right now. Now, Keenan Allen, he goes to the high seven.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
One or two things gonna have to happen. Either you're gonna have to pass that off by McDuffie, right, retreating because he's up on lab. McConkey. Yeah, because that's all I'm trying to do. I'm just trying to hold. I'm just trying to hold outside guy, because you got me and you playing inside leverage. So you got. You got. You cannot stop the seven route. You cannot stop the flag. You can't, because you're playing inside leverage. So you've already given me the outside. The only way you can stop it. The only way you stop that route, O Joe. Is that McDuffie falls off.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But then.
Bucky Brooks
And then Herbert, and then I'm throw the ball. I'm throw the ball. So you got. You got to really time. You got to say, you know what? I believe he's gonna throw this. This seven ball, and I just fall right now. But if he throws it. If he throws it to the flat, right, that's gonna be a first down.
Ocho Cinco
Or.
Bucky Brooks
Or.
Ocho Cinco
Or if anything, I mean, I'm just saying, obviously, I don't play db and obviously, you have to stay within the scheme of the. Of the weight. Yes, yes, those things. What I would do, I would communicate. I would communicate before. When I see that. When I see that, Tennessee. When I see that formation.
Bucky Brooks
Yes.
Ocho Cinco
I know what's coming. We got that post, and we got that flat coming, right? I'm gonna tell the safety, man, listen, I'm gonna jump, lad. Right now the seven coming behind me. Go ahead and cheat it. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
Bucky Brooks
You know what? I'm pass it off. Ocho say, this is how we gonna do it.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
Hicks, you take the flat. I'm gonna say, now I got a safety in the hole. Cause if he runs the post, the safety is there.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
The only thing that I'm weak against is the backside, the back pylon.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
So now McDuffie is going to have.
Ocho Cinco
To retreat right away.
Bucky Brooks
And now Hicks got to go to the flat right now. He's got to go. He's got to take the flat right now.
Ocho Cinco
Right now. Yeah, he got to come down right now.
Bucky Brooks
That is the only way you can stop that route, because you got two. One running like a little stick, what they call a stick route, and the other is running a seven route or sale route. You can't stop it because if you play a man, he's gonna like. And McConkey is going to occupy McDuffie right away. Hicks is playing inside leverage. So anything that I run to the outside, I'm. I'm free and clear. You can't stop it.
Ocho Cinco
The funny thing about it is you can stop it, but I'm thinking and knowing it's coming as a safety, I don't even know if he has the freedom to do this, because when they turn that film on, they're gonna want you inside leverage.
Bucky Brooks
Yes.
Ocho Cinco
At what, what, nine, what, maybe nine.
Bucky Brooks
To 10. Who did the safety?
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. Not maybe.
Bucky Brooks
It looked like it was man coverage. So they probably just had single high safety. So he's in the hole.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, down.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah. No, no, no. He's. He's, he's in the hole. He's looking for, you know, okay, okay, maybe, maybe if it's a crossing route, he's gonna jump it. But he's in the hole. There's really nothing he can do.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Bucky Brooks
So now, because Hicks is playing on, he's playing inside leverage because you know why, Ocho? I. I got to worry about the shallow cross.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Bucky Brooks
If you run the. Cause if I jump outside, he runs the shallow cross, I'm dead. I mean, it's for shape.
Ocho Cinco
Yes. Yeah, I'm dead.
Bucky Brooks
So now I'm inside leverage. Now I'm worried. I ain't worried about him beating me across my face, but what I've done is that I've given him a free release to the back pylon.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. And hey, listen, that's unfortunate. That's unfortunate because obviously what you're doing is you're giving them one a one way go. You're trying to say the inside, but, but now you're vulnerable to the outside, Correct? Vulnerable. And if he, if he stick you to the inside, you really done? Because you gonna go for the first move, correct?
Bucky Brooks
Yep. So, you know, give them credit, but I thought the Chargers played really well. They're gonna be, they're gonna be tough. Herbert threw the ball extremely well tonight. We, we. Look, he has physical. He has physical tools. A big kid. Six five, a two third, two forty. Mobile. He's mobile. You see the athleticism. I mean, he's shown the athleticism. We watched him in, in the. Was that the Rose Bowl, I think his final year. And he, he did what he did. I didn't know he had that kind of athleticism. And he doesn't show it a whole lot, but he got better. He's. He's above. He's an above average athlete. So. Which tells me he got. He can get out of harm's way if he needs to. We know the arm that we know the arm talent. Yeah. We can't deny that. You can say he ain't won nothing, but we can't deny the armed talent. And the thing is, Ocho, there are two things that play here. Two things can be true. You could be a generational talent.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Bucky Brooks
And not a generational player. You could be a generational player without generational talent. See, I think sometimes you like, you got to have both. No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, I like.
Bucky Brooks
And Brady and Manning might not be generational talent, but you can't argue they're generational players.
Ocho Cinco
Right? Right.
Bucky Brooks
So the things that we can see, what we measure. Ocho, man, look at his arm strength, man. Look how big he is, man. Look how fast he is. Ocho. Look how athletic he is. Okay? Those are things that we can see. But we've seen guys that had tremendous, God gifted ability.
Ocho Cinco
Yes, sir.
Bucky Brooks
Not turn out to be generational players or not be even good players or great players. So two things can be true. You can be a generational talent and not a generational player. You could be a generational player without generational talent.
Ocho Cinco
Right?
Bucky Brooks
And. But you look at build a quarterback. You look at. Golly, dude. Six, four, six, five, 235, 240. Yeah, bro, he could throw, bro, he throw the out. He can throw the dig. He throw the comeback. He can throw the over. He can throw the seven. He can throw the bang. Oh, he can throw the shake. He can throw the hold on. He can get out of harm's way. He can throw the ball on the move left, right. Oh, my goodness. What is that not to like about it?
Ocho Cinco
Right? So listen, what we saw from Herbert, the night knock is what we've seen since he's gotten in the league.
Bucky Brooks
Yes.
Ocho Cinco
Problem with him, he puts up big numbers, touchdowns, yards. He does that. The problem is the turnovers in decision making when it matters most. And that's the, that's, that's, that's when we get to playoffs.
Bucky Brooks
But that's. He needs to do this in a playoff game.
Ocho Cinco
And now that's, that's the hard part because the playoff. That's nothing like a week one. It's nothing like a week one.
Bucky Brooks
That's the, that's the difference is different it all when there's finality. Because guess what, Whoever lost this game, guess what, ocho. They got 16 more. Whoever won this game, they got 16 more. But come playoff time, it ain't the best of five. It's not the best of seven. Every game in the NFL is a game seven. So if you think game seven of the NBA finals or the NBA playoffs or the MLB playoffs or hockey playoffs, you think that's something. That's what an NFL player go through every playoff game. It is a game seven.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
There is no tomorrow.
Ocho Cinco
Yep. It's only. And it's only. You know, it's funny. It's only three game sevens too. It's only three game seven until the big dance. Unless you got a week one by.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah, it's, it's. It was like I said, Ocho, I, I kind of wanted Kansas City to score to see how they were going to play it. Maybe they do the same thing, Ocho, right. Maybe they kick the ball deep. They got that time out. They got the two minute warning. They try to hold them. Maybe the own side. We won't ever know because you know, they didn't get an opportunity. Defense didn't get off the field. But I think we, the Chargers deserve credit. I thought Mahomes, once he got it going, I mean, he had to be. I mean, come on, Ocho. The man's parallel to the guy and he throws it over his head and juju catches it. I mean when you go back and look at it, Ocho, think about it. Juju. The Steelers moved on. Yeah, the cheat. The Patriots moved on. TYQUAN Thornton ran 42 at the combine. The Patriots says nah. Kareem Hunt is a comeback. Came back Hollywood Brown. The Ravens traded him. The Cardinals said now we good. I mean think about it. It's hard, Ocho, to keep winning with cast offs and, and look and they're okay players. But let's. It is what it is, Ocho. Somebody said, you know what? We good. We're better without you.
Ocho Cinco
Well, listen, you have to, you also, you also have to understand there's always somebody else coming behind you that wants your job. There are also other people that come behind you that take your job where you. They fit the system better. They just fit the system better. So for, for my homes. Mahomes is a tier one quarterback. He's one with. Around him don't matter. I View Patrick Mahomes the same way I view Tom Brady when he's with the new Patriots. The pieces to the puzzle with the Patriots, offensively, they change differently every year. Every year there was somebody else plug in and play. Plug in and play. But nothing changed. They remain consistent offensively. Why? Because that, that centerpiece, that one piece that matches that was 12. So I, I really view the Kansas City Chiefs that way. Tyreek Hill is gone. Since Tyree Kill, it's been a multitude of different players, different receivers, and they haven't missed a beat. They haven't missed a beat. And even though they didn't play up the par tonight in week one, Andy Reid gonna figure it out.
Bucky Brooks
I'm more concerned with the defense.
Ocho Cinco
You think so? Already Spago had them boys on point.
Bucky Brooks
Because Ocho, they couldn't get pressure without bringing pressure. They couldn't get pressure. And now, now if I bring pressure, what must I do? I must sacrifice my back end because.
Ocho Cinco
That'S with single high somewhere, Somewhere on the back end.
Bucky Brooks
I got, I gotta, I gotta sacrifice something. Ocho, right? If I make X amount of dollars, something's not gonna get paid this month. Yeah. I'm just saying. Oh, Joe. What's not gonna get paid? Hey, the, the, the, the, the, the cell phone bill.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
Cable bill, light bill, gas bill, but something. Because I only have X amount of dollars. I only have so much money to stretch. I can only stretch it so far.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Bucky Brooks
So as my grandma said, I seen you a little piece of something, son. Hey, that's all I got. I like CJ more on the inside, in the shade as I do instead.
Ocho Cinco
Of going to the nine technique.
Bucky Brooks
But because he doesn't have, he doesn't have an advantage out there. His quickness, he, he's, he's extremely quick for a guard, but he's not quick for an end. So he doesn't gain, he doesn't gain an advantage. Yeah, but now if you not there, there are some guys that he might be able to beat. But when he's in that, when he's in that shade, when he's in the under, he's at 3 Tech. That's why I like, that's why I like CJ at.
Ocho Cinco
I think. You know what? I like that he does do it because you can never know where he's going to be. You have to account for him. You have to account for him. And it's confusing to the offensive lineman because you always have. When you come to the line before the snap, you always got to see where is 95 at. Let's identify 95. I think that's why you move him so much, because he's able to do so much more and he doesn't have to deal with that double team all the damn time.
Bucky Brooks
Well, well, I like it more than a five or, or, or seven as opposed to a nine. Now they want him to get him wide because they want to get him on the edges.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Bucky Brooks
And they don't want the chip. But he doesn't get. If he's, if he's playing against like alt did a great job of neutralizing. But you got to realize those guys out there are really athletic.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, very.
Bucky Brooks
Advantage that you have is that when you don't have the athleticism, they normally bump you down inside to the guard.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Bucky Brooks
Those tackles are really athletic. Those are guys that were tight ends that played a lot of other positions.
Ocho Cinco
Right, right, right.
Bucky Brooks
When, when, when they were smaller. They weren't always that size and they probably played. Maybe they were a tight end or maybe they were, you know, a basketball player at one point in time that just grew out of that. Yeah, but I think Kansas City's offense is going to be fine. I'm sure Andy will find a way to, to, to get up out of this. But that the AFC west has gotten better. Denver is better. The Chargers are better. We'll see what the rate. We'll see what the Raiders are going to be.
Ocho Cinco
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow down, slow down, slow down. You don't know if the Broncos have gotten better because they haven't played Week 1 yet.
Bucky Brooks
The Broncos have gotten better. It's hard, it's hard for me to see a scenario right. Based on the court. The court. Sean Payton. Yes, Sean Payton. Quarterbacks don't normally regress.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Bucky Brooks
They don't now. It could happen, have a side. But he's not a guy that's gonna let you regress because he gonna ride. Desean Payton is old school guy. He learned on the parcels.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
And they go. They, they ride you.
Ocho Cinco
I have a question.
Bucky Brooks
Yes.
Ocho Cinco
Who do the Denver Broncos play Week 1?
Bucky Brooks
The Titans. Yeah, they played. They played the Titans in them and played the Titans in Mile High.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, boy. I don't know Calvin.
Bucky Brooks
Really.
Ocho Cinco
And Cam Ward, Calvary and Kenmore.
Bucky Brooks
It's hard to get the ball. It's hard to throw the ball when you're on your back. The Broncos led the league in sacks last year.
Ocho Cinco
Wait, what year was that last year? Yes. 2025 though.
Bucky Brooks
But see, but you told me. You say, you say New England. You told Me affiliate had nothing to worry about. Same personnel. That what you told me?
Ocho Cinco
Well, actually, I said defensively, they had something to worry about because they let Slay go. They let Slago, and they let. I forgot the young bull that played.
Bucky Brooks
Well, what about, what about the guy that was calling the plays?
Ocho Cinco
Oh, that, that's right. Hey, hey. I guarantee you, I don't know who the Eagles play next. Oh, they play the Chiefs.
Bucky Brooks
Yes. I play Sunday.
Ocho Cinco
I guarantee the first, the first 15, you know, the first 15 plays are scripted. Yeah, I guarantee you, I guarantee you three of those plays are specifically for A.J. brown. I guarantee the first play going right to him.
Bucky Brooks
Because that's where I'm looking at.
Ocho Cinco
That's ridiculous. Even though they won the game. Even though they won the game. You can't do your star player like that. You can't. You just can't.
Bucky Brooks
I'm looking at Justin Herbert and they're like, okay, we can throw the ball.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
I mean, A.J. brown is better than Quentin Johnson.
Ocho Cinco
Let me tell you why they can't throw the ball as well. Did you see Omarion Hampton?
Bucky Brooks
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
You see?
Bucky Brooks
Okay, I mean, look, look, he not. Look. They, they ran the ball 25 times for 90 yards. That's nothing. That, that ain't that. I, I, I look, I mean, that's less than four yards of carry.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, but that's the problem. That's a good balance, though. It's a good balance.
Bucky Brooks
But here's the thing, Ocho. If you can't pressure without, if you couldn't get pressure with the Chargers offensive line, what makes you think you'll get pressure with the Eagles offensive line? They got the two number one rated tackles in football.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, you're right.
Bucky Brooks
Now you bring pressure, you open up your back end. I think the back end is weak. I don't think, I don't think the Kansas City Chiefs secondary is like, oh, my God, we can't do.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, hold on. But the Kansas City secondary normally plays two shell in cover 2 or 55, one or the other.
Bucky Brooks
Right?
Ocho Cinco
So everything, everything. Most of the time your success, it's going to have to come from the run game and forcing them to drop a safety down, which they, they, which they had to do when they played the Eagles in the super bowl to make sure Saquon Barkley is not beating us. Right. They did something they don't normally do outside of that two shell bump and run on the outside, throw off the time and whoever's in the slot or number three or tight end, you got to win.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
Cause that's what a one on one is.
Bucky Brooks
So it's gonna be, it's gonna be interesting to see. You know, that's a big game next week, obviously. Chiefs. I mean, when was the last time the Chiefs started 0 and 2? I don't think they've started owing to. In the Mahomes era.
Ocho Cinco
No, probably not. Absolutely not. That's gonna be a good game though. That's gonna be a very, very good game. Rematch of the Super Bowl. That's gonna be a.
Bucky Brooks
They hadn't lost two. They hadn't started the season 02 since 2014. Ocho. The Kansas City Chiefs entered tonight with an incredible 17 game win streak in one score games, regular season and postseason. That streak dating back to Christmas Day 2023 against the Raiders is not over. Look, when you have that guy, you have a chance. That's what, that's how you feel when you have a legendary great quarterback. When you had a Brady, you have a Mahomes, you have a Peyton Manning, you have a breeze or Montana or John Elway, you always feel if we can keep it close, they'll make a play in the end that'll win the game for us. We trust them. We just need to keep it close. We need to get it close or keep it close, whatever the case may be. And then they'll make a play for us. Give them credit. And that's what happens when you have a. Because a lot of things need to go right for your defense, need to get the ball back for you. So three and out, take the ball away. And then Mahomes and that offense need to do what they've done 17 times before tonight, which is find a way to get in field goal range or to win the game with a touchdown. So I just. That's a long way to return home after L. Yeah, it is. It is.
Ocho Cinco
Either way for us, for the fans, for the football fans, for me. I'm not sure if you enjoyed it, but I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the game. Now the first half is a little sloppy, A little flash, this little play here, a little play there. But I, I enjoyed that second half. I really, really, really, really like lad McConkey. Excuse me? Ladarius McConkey.
Bucky Brooks
And considering Justin Herbert in last year's playoff game, he had four interceptions. He couldn't pick the better way to start the season. A 3 8, a 303 TD game. Look, there's no question this is our talent. He has above average athleticism. The only thing is, okay, come playoff time, bro, we, we need Something like this, right?
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
I'm not saying you got to give us three, three and three, 300 yards pass and three touchdowns, but you can't give us four INTs either.
Ocho Cinco
But one thing they're going to do.
Bucky Brooks
There ain't a whole lot of defenses that could overcome that kind of poor performance from their quarterback. Go ahead, Ocho, you want to say something?
Ocho Cinco
I said one thing they're gonna do is they're gonna drop back and throw that ball. They gonna drop back and throw that ball over there in la.
Dan Hope
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Ocho Cinco
Over, I got the blues and I.
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Ocho Cinco
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Bucky Brooks
Yeah, they should ocho this game. Look, look. The Baltimore Ravens. Derrick Henry. I don't know what it is about the Buffalo Bills, but he loves playing this team. We remember last year in Baltimore, he ran for 199. Even in the playoff game they lost, he only had 16 rushes for 84 yards and a touchdown. Tonight, he had 18 rushes, 169 and two touchdowns. But he had a very, very costly fumble. Lamar Jackson was sensational again. 14 of 19. Two touchdowns, two, 210 yards, two touchdowns. But it was that six foot five, 255 pound mountain of a man.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
Josh Allen.
Ocho Cinco
Yes.
Bucky Brooks
33 of 46, 394, two touchdowns. He ran the ball 14 times for 30 yards. He had two touchdowns. But it was his ability to throw the football. Sometimes you gotta be lucky rather than good. On fourth down, the tight end tips the ball. Keone Coleman catches it.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
That's the difference in the ball game. And then they come right back and they get a punch out on Derrick Henry. Well, they got the punch out first and then they do a great job of going three and out, forcing the Ravens to punt the football. Well, three and out and forcing the Ravens to punch the football. Ocho, you're watching this game and it seems like the Ravens have it in hand. They're doing what they run into football.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
Play action, passing. They're doing everything D hop, catching it with one hand. But they're in the locker room. They're upset because they know they had this one and they let this one slip away. What did you like about what you saw from the Buffalo Bills? Not to stop fighting down 15 and the opposing team has the ball.
Ocho Cinco
Listen, the fact they were able to come back, this is one of the reasons why, even though I. Even though I debunk it, you know, that, I mean, Lamar should have been. I always say, Lamar should have been MVP last year. This is why Josh Allen won it. You're down by 15. Some things have to go right the game.
Bucky Brooks
Yes.
Ocho Cinco
50 execution and 50 luck. Some things have to go right in your favor, and they did for the Buffalo Bills tonight. The fact that they continued to fight, the fact that Josh Allen was able to come back and make some throws that only Josh Allen can make when they. When they were behind to. To come from behind and they have an opportunity to win this game is unbelievable. They played really well. The Ravens look good. They lost the game, but the Ravens look very, very good. They look good. Any other team. This is a blowout. Huh?
Bucky Brooks
Any other team.
Ocho Cinco
The Ravens are playing outside the Buffalo Bills. This is a blowout game. Now, common sense isn't always common in the middle of this game. About an hour and 30 minutes ago, I don't know if Ash was able to put it up, I tweeted out something. I tweeted out something. I said, the Ravens look good.
Bucky Brooks
And.
Ocho Cinco
But it's a lot of gay. It's a lot of. There it is right there. I don't care if you can see it. The Ravens look good, but it's a lot of game left. And for some reason, what should be a blowout normally ends closer than you could think. And that's exactly what happened. Not only did it end closer than I would think, I didn't think they would come back and win it. They came back and won the whole damn game. I knew it would be close, but win it.
Bucky Brooks
I.
Ocho Cinco
Man, listen. The football gods won. Buffalo side, obviously, this costly fumble, which the Ravens always happen to do at the most opportune times.
Bucky Brooks
Inopportune.
Ocho Cinco
Inopportune time. My bad, My bad, my bad. But listen, this is. This is. This is a testament to how you ended the season last year.
Bucky Brooks
Yep.
Ocho Cinco
A game of this magnitude having a costly turnover yet again.
Bucky Brooks
Yep. The Ravens offense looked good. Their defense, they didn't get no pressure. Yeah, I can't get pressure with four and their secondary isn't good. Now, I don't know what's going on with Jai Alexander Ocho, but he looked bad tonight. Let's call it like we see it. Ocho night. That's what we do. He did not look good tonight. And they were saying he had issues going on with his knee. I don't know if he had a drain. I don't know if it's bone on bone. I don't know if he has tendonitis, but he didn't look good tonight. He did not look good. Wiggins, he broke up to play on a two point conversion. But passing the fans, bro, you got to do better. You got to do a better job of defending the guy. You. Without interfering with the guy. But the biggest issue I see with them, they can't generate pressure.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
They can't get pressure with four. If madam didn't get, don't get home. I mean, tonight, it just wasn't. They. I mean, look, Buffalo. Buffalo is a good team. And so I, I don't. I. I'm not going to diminish what Buffalo did. Buffalo Did a great job of. Of staying in this ball game, but I thought I was like, well, damn, okay, they get the ball back. And give Ed Oliver credit because he got him stopped. He said, well, I got you stopped. Let me see if I can get the ball out. And he pulled a slot and he got fours. He got three sevens and the boss came out. Give Buffalo credit, but the Ravens are going to kick themselves. John Harbaugh says, hey, guys, I'm proud of you guys. You fought hard. But he know they let this one slip away. And it's on the defensive side of the football. They got to be better because everybody that. Look, everybody doesn't have a Josh Allen that can kill you with his legs and his arms, but these quarterbacks in the AFC can light your ass up with their arms. Josh Allen had 394. Yes, 394. He had 46 pass attempts. Ocho with one sack.
Ocho Cinco
That's crazy.
Bucky Brooks
Lamar Jackson had 19 pass attempts and he got sacked twice. And it took him a Houdini effort to get out of one one.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, yeah.
Bucky Brooks
So I'm concerned with the Ravens defense. I have no concerns whatsoever with their offense. I know Derrick Henry would do a better job of holding on to the football. Lamar Jackson is going to be Lamar Jackson. I love Z. Flowers. I wish they could have worked. No, no abatement. I wish they could have. Look, D Hop. D Hop's going to give you a couple of contest catch a couple of contested catches, right? That's what he's going to do. Oho we. We're not looking to get DeAndre Hopkins of Houston Texans, DeAndre Hopkins of the Arizona Cardinals because he's not there anymore. He doesn't live at that place anymore. And it's okay to say that, right? I wish they could have got Rashan Bateman involved a little bit more. Zay Flowers was sensational tonight. Sam for a buck 43 and one touchdown on nine targets. I wish they could have got Bateman a little bit more involved. D Hop's going to give you one to two catches. That's all we can hope for. They're going to be contested. That's what we brought. That's what they brought him in there for. Defensively is where they're going to have to. Where they're going to have to improve. Ocho. They're going to have to find a way to generate pressure with four because they're back in. Yeah, they're back in those corners.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. Hey, I think, if. If anything, I think more so they played a Bad game, man. The back end has always been good. Nate Wiggins was good last year.
Bucky Brooks
Marlon Humphrey's always Martin Humphrey.
Ocho Cinco
If we can get Jair Alexander, who's coming off an injury, obviously he who's coming off an injury to get himself bad acclimated, you know, hey, did he. Did Jair even playing the preseason?
Bucky Brooks
I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think a whole lot of people played in the preseason. Exactly.
Ocho Cinco
So he getting himself back acclimated after coming off injury, not really playing much last year. Getting himself back into rhythm. Getting himself back into act actually football shape.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah, but. But in the process, Ocho hear the thing. I can't be losing game while you working your way back in the football team.
Ocho Cinco
Right, right, right. So obviously what they have to do, they got to protect him. They got to protect him. If anything. Put, put, listen, put him in press. He's very good at man to man. He. Jair Alexander, that's what he's known for. He's very good at man to man. And don't expose him. Don't have him playing off at seven yards when you know he's not where you need to be. Get him up there, allow him to throw the time into the offense off until he gets himself back. Right?
Bucky Brooks
Yeah, I was just. And I was like, damn, Ravens normally get. Get a little bit more pressure than that. And what's the guy he had, what's his name? Calvinoi. I was like, come on, Kyle. Somebody get some pressure.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, them big boy. Hey. Buffalo got them big boys.
Bucky Brooks
They did a good look. They neutralized it. They look. And they made them one dimensional once they fell behind, you know, they're not gonna run the football. The Ravens, they had a rush, 31 rush attempts. 108 yards. You can live with that. That's less than four yards of carry. That's three and a half yards of carry. I can live with that.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Bucky Brooks
But what I can't live with is a quarterback drop back 46 times to only get him on the ground once. That's not good enough. That's not. That's not. No, seriously, that's not nearly good enough. Right. They played well enough to win, but all. All turnovers aren't created equal. When you turn the ball over, Jerry Henry has that fumble in the first quarter is no harm, no foul, Joe. But when he had that. We've got the momentum now. We give Buffalo a chance to get the momentum, get some momentum. And now they start hooping and hollering like they caught the Holy Ghost on fourth Sunday. And now the crowds are not crowded to it. No choice. What.
Ocho Cinco
What Sunday.
Bucky Brooks
Fourth Sunday. But give. Look. They could have easily, easily folded. Hung their heads. Folded? Yes. We're down 15. And the Ravens. We know what the Ravens possess. Derek Henry is running up and down the field, up and down the field. They can't. I mean, he's getting 4, he's getting 15, he's getting 30, he's getting 51. I mean, he's at. We. I was like. And I thought. I was like, well, damn. What is it about the Buffalo Bills that Derrick Henry loves so much?
Ocho Cinco
It's not even the Buffalo Bills. It's whoever the hell Derrick Henry plays against. He's done this against everybody. I don't know. Derek Henley rarely turns the ball over. Every so often he gonna get a fumble this time. It happened week one when they actually shouldn't. Coming off of what happened last year on why you went home for miss for missing a Super bowl opportunity. There should be no turnovers. That should be the first thing coming in in preseason, in training camp. We can't turn the ball over. And you're playing the same goddamn team again.
Bucky Brooks
That cost you a chance to go to the AFC Championship game, Ocho. But what happened was, is that they got him in a. They got him. He's trying to stiff arm. So if you got a stiff arm, that means what? You ain't got both arms over the ball. Both arms over the ball. So now there's a chance.
Ocho Cinco
Line of scrimmage. There's no need to use a stiff arm.
Bucky Brooks
But no. Yes, they were. He got pressure. He got pressure. And so now he's trying to stiff arm Ed Oliver off of him to try to get to the outside. Yeah, I mean, looking at it now, Ocho just go down. Yeah, but you know that's not how he's wired, right?
Ocho Cinco
You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.
Bucky Brooks
I said the same thing when Jar here. Alexander got beat. I said, let him score. You got three timeouts. Let him score. You got three timeouts. You got a minute on the clock. Let's see what Lamar Jackson can do with spread right with enough time. Because Baltimore's got to burn their timeouts now. And all Baltimore is going to do is go, hey, Prater, they already know. The special team coaches already tell the head coach where the kicker likes to kick from. If you see Josh Allen, hey, he goes to that side, downs, the ball goes to that side downs the ball. Okay. On third down, he goes to that side again. There's 27 seconds, he runs off the field. You normally can get your offense off the field. Your special teams unit on the field, we would always practice 18 seconds. They got a full 27 seconds. So now Prady gets an opportunity to go back there and go through his motion. He doing all that on the field. He got plenty of time. He like, yeah, hey, I ain't rushing nothing. This is good right here, baby. Woo. Appreciate that. And go. He nails it through. You know, a lot of times you have to. You have to have the foresight because a lot of times guys not thinking in that moment, Jariel Alexander has panicked. Man, I can't give up a touchdown. When in actuality it'd be best if you did give up the touchdown because now you got a minute, a minute plus left and you got all three of your timeouts.
Ocho Cinco
But that's, that's. That's something they, that would. They would have talked about before. That would have been something they would have talked about ahead of time.
Bucky Brooks
Obviously.
Ocho Cinco
I mean, I mean, I'm not. I forgot the D coordinator's name. Or Harbaugh would have told would totally defense or, or if they happen to make a big play, let him score, let him get in. Obviously they didn't say anything. That's why he tried to tackle Keon.
Bucky Brooks
Normally, Ocho, you talk about that close to the goal line, right? You say, okay, hey, just let him score.
Ocho Cinco
Right? You're right.
Bucky Brooks
You're not thinking. First of all, you're not thinking they're gonna get a big play. So once they got the big play, the next day, you panic. Ocho, it's just like anything Steve Irwin, right when he got stung by that stingray.
Ocho Cinco
Yes, sir.
Bucky Brooks
His natural instinct was what to pull it out. That was the last thing he should have did. But see, you're not thinking. Something goes in, I gotta get it out, Ocho.
Ocho Cinco
Right, right, right, right away. Right away. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Bucky Brooks
So now he gets a long pass caught on him. He's not thinking, man, I still. I got three times. My team got three timeouts.
Ocho Cinco
Just let him scope.
Bucky Brooks
He not. You're not thinking about that. But like you said, those are scenarios that you probably need to go through also go through your mind. Hey, Tip has. I mean, one time we play in Kansas City, Ocho and John threw me a ball. I lost like 8 yards. But it was more important to keep the clock moving as opposed to an incompletion and stopping the Clock, Right. So the ball got killed. I was like, hey, I gotta catch this. Even though it's a. Now all of a sudden I only got like 50 yards. I only got like 50 yards. But man, this was a hell of a ball game. Yeah, this was a hell of a ball game, man.
Ocho Cinco
Listen, there's a reason why they had them slated to play as a 7:30 game or 8:30 game, depending on where you live from. Because it was everything that was advertised. It was. Everything was advertised based on what we saw last season.
Bucky Brooks
Right.
Ocho Cinco
Listen, I actually. All the goddamn games was good today. Depending on who you had.
Bucky Brooks
I wouldn't say all of them was good. I would say all.
Ocho Cinco
I mean, it depends. It depends. It depends. There were some trash games, but this was perfect to end the night.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah, this was a very good game. You got two heavyweight quarterbacks, the last two MVPs going head to head. They. Hey, nobody wants to give an edge. You got Derek Henry running the ball. Look like he's well on his way to another 2000. Hell, I thought he was going for two bands. I thought he was going for two. Two bills today. I thought he was going. Yeah, I thought he was going for two bills today. Because you know, Ocho, it's just like when we play a receiver, we get that big catch early. Hey, oh, we got. Hey, we get big. We got 70 yards on three catches.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
And we're in the first quarter.
Ocho Cinco
Hold on. And this is the funny thing about it too. Forget, forget the first quarter. When you get those chunk yards and chunk plays and have that many yards at the beginning of the season in Week 1 to get the ball rolling. Yes, man, stop playing. You know, you.
Bucky Brooks
That's how I'm thinking. And I'm sure Derek Henry was thinking the same thing. The offensive line is thinking the same thing. Oh, we got a great rhythm because all of a sudden they tossing him the ball and he's coming through there and ain't nothing but a safety and the safety is taking an effed up angle. The safety really. He tried to hit him from the angle and I was really trying to be in front of you.
Ocho Cinco
I was trapped.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah, that was trapped. That with that.
Ocho Cinco
He not. He took that bad angle on purpose.
Bucky Brooks
Of course. Yes, of course. That's what I'm saying. I'm coming to that angle.
Ocho Cinco
Yes, man, who trying to. On a. On a toss. Everybody locked up. The guard or the. The guard pull and get the linebacker and it just you and his. Who the hell finna hit Derrick Henry? Oh, yeah, I'm Making a business decision.
Bucky Brooks
Hey, and you see, he already got. He got the concussion cap already on. He said, I need a pill. Hey, as a matter of fact, somebody throw me a pillow. I need a pillow. And the concussion cap.
Ocho Cinco
Matter of fact, I can, I can guarantee you. I can guarantee you. I want everybody that's in the chat that's listening. Imagine, hypothetically speaking, if you had the opportunity to play safety. I guarantee you nobody. There's no amount of money that a team could pay anybody in our chat to be a safety and meet Derek Kearney one on one in the hole.
Bucky Brooks
Nah, because he got ahead of steam. The thing, what you want to do, Ocho, is make him go east and west. You don't want to get. You don't want him to get him. Shoulder pads coming downhill, north and north, going north. Hell Nah. That's 240, 245, please. Hell no. He got a head of steam. I'm trying to get you before you turn those shoulder pads square. I'm trying to get you going laterally. As long as I got you going laterally, that's cool.
Ocho Cinco
I'm trying to get you before you can get to the line of scrimmage. Forget that.
Bucky Brooks
They toss that ball and you see that hole open up. Okay, here comes the tight end. He pinned, he pinned somebody. Here come the fullback. He leading up in there. And he kicks out, he turns back on the linebacker. Nah, hell nah. I don't want no part of that. And those are the decision. But I think, look, this was a very good. This was the best game of the day thus far. We'll see what Minnesota and Chicago do. Last night is going to have to be hard pressed to. To top this one because you got 41, you got, you got 4,000, 140. And you got two quarterbacks playing at their absolute best. Lamar Jackson was sensational. Josh Allen just so happened to had the ball. Had the ball last.
Ocho Cinco
Yes. Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
And that's what you want to do. You want to say, hey, give me the ball. All I want is the ball in my quarterback's hands with a chance to win the game. That's all I can ask for. It doesn't matter if it's Lamar Jackson, if it's Joe Burrow, if it's Patrick Mahomes, if it's Josh Allen. All you want is that opportunity. I want my quarterback to have the ball with a chance to win the game. We need a touchdown. We need a field goal. I have the utmost confidence. Josh Allen has a ton of confidence. He always Has. But now he knows he's an elite company. He has an mvp. He has an mvp. But he knows in order to get to that, that, that, that, that, that tier, that. Take that next step. Ocho.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
Can you imagine super bowl winning, mv. Super bowl mvp, Right? Regular season mvp.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
That's when Brady started separating himself. Now all of a sudden, he got super bowl and he got regular season Mahomes, super bowl and regular season. Roger. That's what the greats do. Josh Allen was sensational tonight.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, he was.
Bucky Brooks
He was absolutely phenomenal.
Ocho Cinco
With a little help. With a little help from the Ravens.
Bucky Brooks
He was sometimes like, I gotta have that, Ocho. I need that. But here's the thing. He got the help. How many times have you helped somebody but they didn't help themselves? How many times did we. Come on here, Ocho, the game was for the taking.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
And the team didn't take it.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Bucky Brooks
If you open the door. Remember the movie Sinners?
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
In order for the vampires to come in, what you have to do, you had to offer, you had to ask them to come in, you had to let them in.
Ocho Cinco
Yes, sir.
Bucky Brooks
How many times have the door been open and the opportunity for you to come in.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Bucky Brooks
And no. And everybody just stood there. So the Ravens opened the door and they invited them in. And Buffalo says, okay, yeah, we'll take it. We're coming on in your house.
Ocho Cinco
Any other team, I'm trying to think, any other team, if you take the Bills out and, and, and the Ravens put up 40 points, there may be maybe one or two teams that I can think of. They have the quarterback or have the personnel to actually come back in a game like that.
Bucky Brooks
You're absolutely right.
Ocho Cinco
Maybe two other teams. That's about it. Other than that, ain't nobody, nobody else coming. Coming back and, and doing. We did. I have a question, too. I got a question for you. I know the magnitude and importance of the game is not as significant as this one was, but does this compare in any way to that 28. 3 comeback in that Super Bowl? I'm not comparing. I mean, I know it's, you know, it's week one. I'm not comparing week one in the Super Bowl. I mean, just come back. It's just as big or big.
Bucky Brooks
This, this. Oh, that's. I mean, I mean, 28. 3.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
I mean, the biggest. At that point in time, the, the biggest lead had ever been was like a 10 nothing with the comeback from 10 nothing.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Bucky Brooks
Or 10 or. The Patriots came back from 10 down in the fourth quarter, they came back for 25.
Ocho Cinco
Well, hey, hold on now. They score 16 points in four minutes, huh? This ain't real life. The Bills tonight.
Bucky Brooks
Yes. Yes.
Ocho Cinco
Points in four minutes. That. That's not even. That's. That's video game stuff. So many things have to go right for you to score 16 points in four minutes.
Bucky Brooks
What. What went right is that after the own first down, Derrick Henry fumbled the ball that little, little time. So you didn't get the full allotment of time. They didn't make. They didn't make Buffalo burn any of their timeouts on that possession. So now once you get the ball back, now they don't have any timeouts. And you can let time run off the clock on your next possession.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Bucky Brooks
But not Josh. Josh was sensational. Give Buffalo credit. Give him credit where it's due. They earned this one. Buffalo. I mean, excuse me, the Ravens. You. You kicking yourself. I know you're kicking yourself, but. But I mean, we the Ravens. I mean, if you. All the nine minutes more time of possession. Ocho for the Buffalo, they had 10 more first downs, third down, efficiency one. Buffalo was 7 of 15. Baltimore was 7 of 11. But defensively is where the Ravens gonna have to get better. They gave up 500 yards of offense. They give him 500 yards of offense. Just because Derrick Henry fumble, that doesn't mean you have to let him score. I'm just. I'm just throwing that at that school for thought.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
Just because somebody fumbled, you could say, you know what? Y' all can. Y' all getting a field goal, you ain't getting a touchdown, or you get nothing, or you can take the ball away, you can take it back away. So this notion that, oh, you know, Derek Hiprom. Yes. Derrick Henry fumble, he'll do a better job. He'll have better ball security next time. And in that situation, sometimes it's just better to go ahead and drop, live to see another day. I had a coach used to tell me all the time, let's stuck on my position coach in the mid-90s, 93 and 94. He said, he say sweet. Called me sweetheart. He said, sweetheart, you got to know when the journey's over sometimes. D. Henry, I understand. You got to know when the journey is over. It's okay to sometime to get out of bounds. It's okay, Ocho, to say, you know what? Hey, drop to the ground, man. Come on. Nah, nah. In that situation, the only. Only bad can come out of that. Nothing good could come out of that. That's why you saying, well, he shouldn't step up. That's what he. I mean, how many times have we seen him use that stiff arm? Just in this game, right. Remember on that long, that first long touchdown run, what did he do? Get up off me, shove the guy to the ground.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
So in that situation, man, but this was a barn burner. This was a great game. Congratulations. Buffalo Bills hardball victory. Scored 22 points in the fourth quarter, outscored Baltimore 226 in the fourth, and they win the ball game 41 40. Ms. Pat also Ojo, remember Baltimore, Mr. Pat up right bounced away. Now they would have. Now a field, a field goal only ties you.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
You go into overtime, so.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Bucky Brooks
But boy, that was that. What a bar. What a barn burner of, of a game. The Broncos spoiled Cam wars debut with about the score of 20 to 12 in the win over the Titans. Bo Nicks had an off day, throwing a pair of interceptions. I think he fumbled his first fumble loss since he was at Auburn. He was at Auburn a long ass time, though. But anyway, the Knicks defense had his back. Half a dozen sacks. They did a tremendous job. Defense look good. I definitely look good. We got after two. We were swarming.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. For the Titans, we got.
Bucky Brooks
They had some drops in there too, though. Gavin really had a big drop late.
Ocho Cinco
I was getting ready to tell you, they got to help. They got to help Uno out.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
You got to catch the ball for your quarterback. You got to catch the ball for your quarterback to give yourself a chance to win that game, be in that game. Those opportunities, they come. They come. They come very slim. When you're playing a defense as good as the Broncos, you have to capitalize on every single play.
Bucky Brooks
Yep.
Ocho Cinco
Because you ain't getting that many.
Bucky Brooks
Cam Ward was 12 or 28, 112 yards. Got sacked six times, lost 50 yards. They only had. They were 24, 21 rushes for 71 yards. But like I said, really had a drop. They had a couple of jobs that, that dropped the ball in there. And you got to make those plays. Like you said, Ocho, that's a rookie in that situation. You got to help him out.
Ocho Cinco
That too.
Bucky Brooks
And he did. He didn't. He didn't get a whole lot of help today. He did not get a whole lot of help today. Bo Nicks, for a second, I thought he had a Titans, you know, T shirt up under that Bronco jersey because, damn, he was trying to help them guys win the play. Through some horrible interceptions. 25 of 41, 76 A touchdowns, two interceptions at a costly fumble was only sacked once. Broncos ran the ball well, 30, 30 carries for buck 51. J.K. dobbins had a 19 yard touchdown. Harvey, the first round draft pick had a 50 yard run. But. And Courtney Sutton, who signed a big contract this off this offseason, had a great touchdown catch. But that won't get it done. Denver has to be better than what they showed today. Now the Titans, defensively, they get, they got, you know, they kind of got bailed out because Simmons.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
Shoved the guy and they call unnecessary Russians and they had the. Had the ball. They allowed the Broncos to keep the ball for a little longer than what they probably should have had it. But you got, you. You got to be better than that. But Cam Ward did not get a help. A lot of help from his receivers today. Ocho, it had been very interesting to see had, you know, because really, really don't normally drop that.
Ocho Cinco
No.
Bucky Brooks
And he had a couple of drops. Couple in crucial situations. And we know that what type of receiver Calvin really is. We, We've talked about it ad nauseam here the last last couple of days, but that was. That won't get it done. That won't get it done.
Ocho Cinco
You got to have those, baby.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah. And then, you know, he didn't. Cam didn't turn nobody fumble. He got. Got a. They brought a safety, brought a cat blitz on him and got the ball out of there. Yeah. Got the ball out there late in the game that they ended up ending it for him. So Broncos win by the score of 2020. Go to one and oh. In the division. And guess what?
Ocho Cinco
What?
Bucky Brooks
For the first time, and ain't no telling how long, at least a decade. The Chiefs are at the bottom of the division. Third stringer Jake. How you pronounce that name? Tongans had a late touchdown catch to give the 49ers a 1713 win over the Seahawks. He entered the game having never caught an NFL pass. He finished with three reception and released a relief of injured George Kittle. Kittle got injured.
Ocho Cinco
Hamstring. Huh?
Bucky Brooks
Oh, that's what it was. Okay.
Ocho Cinco
Soft tissue, hamstring.
Bucky Brooks
And hey, Purdy. Purdy put it up and the guy came down and made a great play for it. And you got. Sometimes don't you gotta have guys making plays for you. Everything's not gonna always be perfect, but boy, ooh, Purdy didn't look good today.
Ocho Cinco
Nah.
Bucky Brooks
Sometimes I think you try to go out there, you try to, you know, you try to. I mean, those interceptions. Yeah. He was 26 of 35, 277, two touchdowns, two interception. He was only sacked once. Sam Darnold was 16 of 23, 150 yards, no touchdowns, no interceptions. Jackson, Smith and Jigba nine for a buck 24. But oh, he had a turnover. He fumbled at the end of the game and then what'd you call him? Got it. Bosa. He probably credited the Bosa with a sack. You did probably credit the Bosa with a sack. Yep. Fred Warner was Fred Warner. Ricky Grisso had had a nice game.
Ocho Cinco
Ocho Ricky did, I think Juwan Jennings, Juwan Jennings got hurt, didn't he?
Bucky Brooks
I don't know. I see two catches. I was watching that game and you know, I was all, you know, trying to focus on that game, trying to focus on this game over here. But Pierce all look, he had a good game.
Ocho Cinco
That today was his coming out game.
Bucky Brooks
He showed flashes last year and I think this is one of the reasons why they were, they were ready because they knew in order for him to really sprout and spread his wings, they had to get rid of Debo. They had to let Debo go.
Ocho Cinco
Those opportunities that Debo would get, now you got to give him the UNO.
Bucky Brooks
He got him.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, he's getting now.
Bucky Brooks
McCaffrey had 10, had nine catches on 10 targets. Had a big, I think fourth down catch to keep a drive alive to end up turning into, I think the, the touchdown catch. 40m to get a kicker. That's what they need.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, your boy right here.
Bucky Brooks
That'S, that's what, that's really what they Tanjis. That's how you say his name. T O N G E S Tanjes.
Ocho Cinco
Listen, and based on the kickings we saw today in week one, there are a few teams that could use a kicker because a few games are lost based on someone's foot.
Bucky Brooks
Ocho the Jags beat the Panthers 26 to 10. Trevor Lawrence threw a touchdown pass. Trevor Atn ran for a buck 43 and pri Brian Thomas Jr also ran for a score. Travis Hunter played 39 offensive snaps, caused six passes for 33 yards. He played just six snaps on defense.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
You watching it? I tried to, I tried to watch some of it.
Ocho Cinco
It was up, I had it up. I had it up. I, I, I, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. I think it was a good balance for Travis Hunter. Obviously not playing very many defensive snap, but obviously they said he would play more offensively. He, he, he looked good. He, he looked decent. Trevor Lawrence looked like a number one pick today. He looked like a number One pick today.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah, he did.
Ocho Cinco
Travis Anten looked really good as well. Brilliant. He looked, he looked faster, a little bit more explosive. I, I don't know what it is. I, I, I don't know. He looked fast, a little bit more explosive.
Bucky Brooks
Bigsby. Tank. Bigsby played really well last year and he was trying to take money out your pockets.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, okay, okay. I see where you're going with it. I got you. I got you.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah. Bryce Young, 18 to 35, 154 touchdown, two picks. Trevor Lawrence was 1931, 178, one touchdown, one pick. But like you said, they ran the ball 32 times for 200 yards. You know, Trav got in and he did catch six passes. Ocho, not much on the defensive side. I think he had a, a half a tackle. But look, we'll, we'll check, we'll check, we'll check back in once the seasons, once as we get further, further along in the season and we'll see. Probably see it tick up more maybe 15 plays next week on defense.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Bucky Brooks
But I think it's going to be some time before they, you know, this says, okay, you're not coming off the field.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Bucky Brooks
Cardinals beat the Saints by the score of 20 to 13. Calamari 163 yards, hitting Marvin Harrison Jr. Five times for 71 yards on the touchdown. He also ran 38 yards and another score and a five yard shovel pass to James Conner. You know what, Ocho? I, yeah, like I said, Spencer Rattler, you know, I thought late in the ball game he had a chance to tie this ball game up or give the Cardinals credit. They ended up pulling the ball out and, But I will say this. Quarterbacks on fourth down, last play of the game. Give you guys even if you throw an interception. So what? If you throw the ball out of bounds, it's gonna be incomplete. Give your guy a chance.
Ocho Cinco
Give him a chance.
Bucky Brooks
Damn.
Ocho Cinco
That's all, that's all we could ask for.
Bucky Brooks
Got a chance. Spencer Rattler was 27 of 46. 214. He was only sacked once.
Ocho Cinco
He looked too bad. He ain't look.
Bucky Brooks
No, he didn't. No, he didn't. No, he got it. He got a nice arm now.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, a nice arm now. Are we, Are we? And I'm being optimistic. You do understand who they were playing, right?
Bucky Brooks
They're playing the, the Cardinals.
Ocho Cinco
Okay. Okay.
Bucky Brooks
Or you think the card is gonna be bad this year?
Ocho Cinco
No, I, I don't think they're going to be bad, but they're not a team that you can really, really heavily judge a quarterback on. Because when it comes to playing better competition, especially better competition defensively, then can you still be consistent and make the right decisions with the ball?
Bucky Brooks
Right. Right. I mean, New Orleans did a great job. They got out the calamari, sacked him five times. Ocho.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, watching them games today, man, got the adrenaline going. I was excited. I was hyped watching, you know, Star spangled banner being sung like. I don't know why I feel like I can go out there and play like. Huh?
Bucky Brooks
You can't.
Ocho Cinco
You don't think so?
Bucky Brooks
No.
Ocho Cinco
Damn. I don't know. I just think if I was given a lot.
Bucky Brooks
He left the game with some injuries. Keep it that way.
Ocho Cinco
Damn.
Bucky Brooks
The Raiders beat the Patriots by the score of 20 to 13. Geno Smith passed for 362 yards and a touchdown in his Raiders debut too. Brock Bowers had five catches for 103 yards before leaving the game with a knee injury. Jacoby Myers added eight catches for 97 yards. Gino just needed to get out of New York.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
Gino. Gino been playing well since he left New York.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. He was willing to deal in Seattle too. I'm not sure why. I'm. I'm not sure why they let him go. But he gonna wheel and deal out there in Las Vegas.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
That's one thing he can do is he can throw that ball. He can spin it. He can see. He can spin it. And now you got some. You got some very, very good targets that you get to throw the ball to. Expressly Brock Bowers, who's probably going to be the best titan in the game. And he'll probably solidify that spot after this season. Probably. So they gonna be all right? They're gonna be all right.
Bucky Brooks
I mean they needed Gino. Gino was 24, 34, 362. One touchdown, one interception. Got it. They got sacked, but hey, he still was dealing because they didn't really have no resemblance of a run game. 24 rush attempts, 56 yards. Ashton Jenny average 2 yards of carry. But Brock Bowers, like you said, Ashton Gente and excuse me, Brock Bowers and Jacoby Myers between the two of them had 13 catches for 200 yards.
Ocho Cinco
And the funny thing about it is the fact that Geno Smith was still willing and dealing with no run presence at all.
Bucky Brooks
Yep.
Ocho Cinco
With no run present. Aston Gentle. He gonna get off. You're gonna have games like this. You're gonna have games like this. You. You not. It's different. It's ain't Boise State. Everybody just as strong, everybody just as fast and all that being able to bounce, bounce it outside. They ain't gonna be.
Bucky Brooks
The Bucks beat the Falcons 23:20 in dramatic fashion only eight months after helping Ohio State win a national championship. A Mecca.
Ocho Cinco
Two touchdowns.
Bucky Brooks
Yep. Caught two touchdown passes, including a game. A go ahead 25 yarder with 59 seconds remaining. Baker was 17:32,167 with three touchdowns. Young. Young Way co. I mean, it's. Y' all know how it's spelled.
Ocho Cinco
What's his name?
Bucky Brooks
Young Way.
Ocho Cinco
Young Way.
Bucky Brooks
Young Way Cool.
Ocho Cinco
What's his last name?
Bucky Brooks
Cool. K, O, O.
Ocho Cinco
Okay. Okay. What happened to the other kicker?
Bucky Brooks
That was him. He there. He just missed it this time. He went wide. He pushed it wide. Right, Right.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. I thought it was named. I thought the name was Young Ho.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah, that's how I spell. But hey, man, I. I just knew they were gonna. They were gonna come. They were. They will tie this game. Pennix Jr. Did a great job on fourth down to die. Get the first down and man, that.
Ocho Cinco
Was a good game. C.J. stroud was. C.J. stroud Was playing well.
Bucky Brooks
He was 19, 27, 188. One interception, three sack. He was sacked three times. Nick Chub had a Nick Chubb sighting. Ocho.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, he was toting that rock. Boy, wait till they get Joe mixing back.
Bucky Brooks
They couldn't really get Nico Collins involved, but Puka Dakua had himself a day. Kyrie Williams had 18 for 60, 66 yards and a touchdown. Yeah, but it was. It was a very interesting game. I mean, Baker, Baker, those three big touchdowns, Here it is right here in the game. But that's what Baker's done since he's been there. He finds a way to win the ball game. He had a couple of touchdowns and they were pilling around and milling around and milling around, and they got the ball back. He takes it right down the field and get a touchdown.
Ocho Cinco
Yep.
Bucky Brooks
You're like, nah, I don't want no stinking field goal. I don't want no overtime. I'm. Hey, I'm going home. I'm going.
Ocho Cinco
I got to get up out of here.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah, I'm going.
Ocho Cinco
They not paying me for overtime. I got to go.
Bucky Brooks
He's like, first of all, I ain't gonna leave it on. I ain't gonna chance it to the kicker anyway, considering how y' all been missing lately.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. Hey, they need. They need to put. They need to widen the field goals. Field goal post back. No, they need to because everyone is missing kicks that would normally be good. Everybody missing kicks that normally be good. They made it that much more difficult for the kickers by narrowing the goal post.
Bucky Brooks
What they've done, guys have sacrificed distance for accuracy. You see how braswell, how that 60 yarder went through? That looked like it had been good from 70, didn't it?
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, it did.
Bucky Brooks
So guys are sacrificing leg strength for accuracy.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
Because we look at how many. Look how many pages we starting to see miss.
Ocho Cinco
You know, the further out you go. The further out you go, the more difficult it is to be accurate.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
Where as you go. And this is coming from NFL kicker.
Bucky Brooks
You know, I wouldn't go that far.
Ocho Cinco
But I was a backup here for the Bengals. You, you, you know, you know that.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah. Way back. But the Bucks look that division, we think it's going to be the Bucks and the. We think it's going to be the Bucks and the Falcons. That's always nice to go ahead and go on the road. Now we play y' all again. We're division rivals. We play y' all again, but y' all got to come to our place. It's always nice to go ahead and get be one up on your rivals. That division, Carolina, they lost today. New Orleans, they lost today. Rattler didn't look that bad. He had a throw late in the ball game that could have tied it. And the guy, the, the DB did a great job of pulling the ball out.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
Pennix Jr. Was 27, 42, 2981 touchdowns. He only got sacked once. Bijan Robinson was six of them for 101 touchdown. Kyle Pitts. Kyle Pitts sighting. They finally decided to give him the ball. Drake London had eight catches. Kyle Pitts had seven catches. Go ahead, Ocho. What you want to say?
Ocho Cinco
I was gonna say, hey, they. They were dishing. They were dishing. The cowboy.
Bucky Brooks
They made the game. They didn't give him the ball early.
Ocho Cinco
Early. Yeah, they would. They were dissing. Boy.
Bucky Brooks
They. I mean.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, Bijan Robinson in open space. I don't want no, I don't want no part of that.
Bucky Brooks
Oh, that turf he's making.
Ocho Cinco
Look, you're making everybody look stupid. I'm not saying he's Barry Sanders.
Bucky Brooks
No, nobody's Barry.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, nobody is. But the only person I've seen that make those kind of moves like that in open space or in tight quarters was maybe Lashawn McCoy.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah, Shady McCoy. Yeah, look, that's what we remind you.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, that's it.
Bucky Brooks
You're right.
Ocho Cinco
Yes. Well, be nice It's.
Bucky Brooks
You're not gonna have very many opportunities like that. Phoenix was dealing today. You know, he got an opportunity to start and look, he looked good.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
Look good through the ball with some confidence. You have to do a better job of running the football 28 for 69 yards. Won't get it done. That's putting too much pressure on your offensive line. That's putting too much pressure on your quarterback. You need to bend the ball better. You got to run the ball better than that. You've got to run it better than that. That's asking an awful lot of your quarter, your second year quarterback in your offensive line when you only get 69 yards rushing. Right now, I, look, I understand that, that Tampa, when they got Vita Veil in there, that's not an easy assignment to try to move his big ass out the way. But you gotta, you gotta, you gotta do something. Joe, that's. That's not nearly. That's not nearly good enough. Not nearly good enough.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
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Date: September 10, 2025
Host & Panelists: Shannon Sharpe (host, not directly heard in this segment), Bucky Brooks, Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
This episode dives into Week 1 of the 2025 NFL season, packed with high-stakes games, surprises, and standout performances. Centering on the Buffalo Bills’ unbelievable comeback over the Baltimore Ravens, the panel also breaks down key AFC and NFC matchups, rookie quarterback debuts, and tactical details from a player’s perspective. Bucky Brooks and Ocho Cinco offer a player's eye view of crucial plays, quarterback showings, offensive and defensive breakdowns, and what these early results mean for teams’ prospects and division races.
Justin Herbert’s Poise:
The panel is impressed by Herbert’s control, especially in executing a game-sealing drive against the three-time AFC champions. Herbert's mobility and arm strength are highlighted.
Bucky Brooks: “25 of 34, 318, three touchdowns and the game sealing drive in which he took off and run after Chris Jones.” (03:05)
Wide Receivers & Offensive Rhythm:
Ladarius McConkey’s breakout performance is praised as he “looks extremely well. He's picking up exactly where he left off last year.” (04:39, Ocho Cinco)
Keenan Allen’s steadying presence is noted, with Quentin Johnston's hands still an issue.
Chiefs’ Struggles & Sideline Tension:
Chiefs’ issues running the football put excessive pressure on Mahomes. A sideline spat between Tranquil and Chris Jones is dissected, centered on a defensive coverage breakdown.
Bucky Brooks: “That's not your responsibility to go inside…do your job.” (03:22)
Offensive Mistakes:
Chiefs’ miscommunication on crossing routes led to Kelsey being injured—Brooks and Ocho explain how crucial “spacing, knowing where your depth is supposed to be” is (06:46–07:11).
Comparison of Talent & Execution:
The distinction is made between “generational talent” and “generational player," using Herbert as an example:
Bucky Brooks: “You could be a generational talent and not a generational player. You could be a generational player without generational talent.” (25:15–25:56)
Game-Changing Moments:
The Bills trailed significantly until a turnover on Derrick Henry and a clutch tipped reception swung momentum.
Bucky Brooks: “Sometimes you gotta be lucky rather than good. On fourth down, the tight end tips the ball. Keone Coleman catches it. That's the difference in the ball game.” (45:32)
Josh Allen’s Heroics:
Allen’s stat line—33 of 46, 394 yards, 2 TDs passing plus 2 rushing—is lauded. The hosts marvel at his dual-threat ability and leadership in crunch time.
The Luck–Execution Balance:
Ocho Cinco: “The game…50% execution and 50% luck. Some things have to go right in your favor, and they did for the Buffalo Bills tonight.” (46:28)
Ravens’ Painful Missed Opportunity:
The panel stresses Baltimore’s superior play for most of the game but inability to seal the win:
Ocho Cinco (on his prescient tweet): “The Ravens look good, but it's a lot of game left. …What should be a blowout normally ends closer than you could think. And that's exactly what happened.” (47:14)
Baltimore’s Defensive Concerns:
Failure to pressure Allen with four rushers is a major issue.
Bucky Brooks: “They can't get pressure with four and their secondary isn’t good. …he had 46 pass attempts…with one sack.” (48:44–49:51)
Turnover Analysis:
The timing of Derrick Henry’s fumble swung everything: “All turnovers aren’t created equal. …when you turn the ball over, Jerry Henry has that fumble in the first quarter, it's no harm, no foul…but when he had that…We've got the momentum now, we give Buffalo a chance to get the momentum.” (52:50–53:24)
Broncos defense dominates rookie QB Cam Ward, sacking him six times and limiting his passing effectiveness:
Bucky Brooks: "Cam Ward was 12 of 28, 112 yards. Got sacked six times, lost 50 yards." (68:51)
Bo Nix (Broncos) also struggles, but running back J.K. Dobbins delivers to secure the win.
This “Best Of: Week 1, Part 1” sets the tone for an unpredictable NFL season, spotlighting massive momentum swings, rookies under the microscope, and the relentless nature of NFL competition. The balance of tactical breakdowns, real-player empathy, and entertaining banter makes this must-listen content for both hardcore and casual football fans.
Catch future episodes for more breakdowns as the season unfolds!