BEST OF NFL Week 10 Part 1: Matthew Stafford MVP Favorite + Kevin Stefanski is TRIPPING ... AGAIN

Summary

Club Shay Shay Podcast — "Best of NFL Week 10 Part 1: Matthew Stafford MVP Favorite + Kevin Stefanski is TRIPPING ... AGAIN"

Date: November 12, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe (iHeartPodcasts and Shay Shay Media)
Note: Adverts, intros/outros, and non-content sections are omitted.

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Episode Overview

This episode of Club Shay Shay, hosted by NFL legend Shannon Sharpe, is a lively recap and analysis of NFL Week 10. The main focus is on standout performances—especially Matthew Stafford's surging MVP candidacy, Jonathan Taylor’s historic running game, and the persistent struggles of coaches and quarterbacks like Kevin Stefanski and Dylan Gabriel. The episode also includes sharp back-and-forths about franchise-building, quarterback struggles, and what sets elite teams apart this season.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Matthew Stafford’s MVP Surge

• Stats & Historical Context

  • Stafford’s Week 10 performance: 24/36, 280 yards, 4 TDs, 0 INTs. First in NFL history with 4 passing TDs, 0 INTs in three straight games. League-leading 25 touchdowns with only one interception.
  • Only received MVP votes once prior (2023), always overshadowed by contemporaries like Brady, Manning, and Rodgers.

• Debate on Stafford’s Candidacy

  "Hey, that them Aaron Rodgers numbers, boy. ... If he continues to put these type of numbers up, well, you know where that MVP going, it’s going to be right down there in LA."
  — Analyst 1 (04:35)

  • Rams now 7-2; game against 49ers was a blowout (21-0 early). Receivers Puka Nacua and Devonta Adams were "cooking" (06:00).
  • Discussion whether Rams and Seahawks are the two best teams in football.

  "Unless somebody's comparable to that, they're not taking that award from him."
  — Analyst 3 (06:51)

Notable Quote

"Stafford's on pace to throw 50 touchdowns with four interceptions... unless Jonathan Taylor goes for 2,100 yards and 25 touchdowns, it’ll be close."
— Analyst 3 (06:51)

Timestamp: [04:35–07:52]

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2. Jonathan Taylor’s Historic Hot Streak

• Colts’ RB Dominates in Berlin

  • 244 rushing yards, 3 touchdowns in win over Falcons.
  • Third career 200-yard rushing day; now only behind greats like Jim Brown and Adrian Peterson for most such games.
  • Passed Edgerrin James for most Colts rushing TDs.

  "He got 20 touchdowns in the last six games with no picks. With that being said, Jonathan Taylor’s carrying this."
  — Analyst 3 (34:02)

  • Taylor's season: Over 1,100 yards and 15 TDs through 10 games; on pace to challenge LaDainian Tomlinson’s TD record and reach 2,000+ rushing yards.

• Comparative Analysis

  • Taylor has two more yards on eight fewer carries than Saquon Barkley at this point last season, but seven more touchdowns (40:23).

Notable Quote

"If he gets 2,000 yards and 25-30 touchdowns, he gonna be MVP."
— Analyst 3 (40:56)

Timestamps: [34:02–41:07]

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3. Rams & Seahawks — NFC’s Best?

• Big Games and Upcoming Matchups

  • Both teams have delivered dominating offensive performances.
  • Rams vs. Seattle next week highlighted as a must-watch game.
  • Seahawks recently had five sacks, multiple defensive scores, and performed well even with key starters out (49:12–49:43).

• Seattle’s Backfield Praise

  "The front four for the Broncos right now is the way we talked about the front four for the Eagles last year."
  — Analyst 1 (65:21)

Notable Quote

"I tweeted though. Are we sure the Rams and the Seahawks aren’t the best two teams in football?"
— Analyst 3 (06:05)

Timestamps: [05:05–08:45], [49:12–50:05]

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4. Franchise QB Struggles & “Tank” Talk (Browns & Jets)

• Browns: Kevin Stefanski & Dylan Gabriel

  • Cleveland falls to 2-7, but Stefanski insists on sticking with rookie Gabriel (16:20–17:31).
  • Gabriel's limitations (check downs, avoidance of “big boy” throws) called out as unsustainable unless surrounded by elite talent.

  "You’re just not gonna win games checking the ball down. Unless you have elite, superior talent around you, you’re not going to be able to do it."
  — Analyst 1 (17:00)

• Speculation of Browns “Tanking”

  • Sharpe and his co-host openly question whether the franchise really wants to win or is just collecting draft picks.
  • Speculation on Myles Garrett’s future and suggestion he’ll only be traded to an NFC team (22:02–23:37).

Notable Moments

"Let’s stop expecting Shador. They don’t want to win. They want to get draft picks. They going to redo this thing."
— Analyst 3 (21:37)

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5. The Anatomy of Franchise Building

• Elite QBs: The Difference

  • Sharpe discusses how landing a franchise QB can instantly shift a team’s fortune—see examples: Cincinnati with Burrow, Buffalo with Josh Allen, Kansas City with Mahomes.
  • The extreme difficulty of finding a true franchise staple.

  "You don't understand how difficult it is ... to find [a QB] you can lock in for the next decade."
  — Analyst 1 (25:21)

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6. Jets, Bears, and Justin Fields

• Justin Fields’ Poor Showing

  • Jets win despite critically low offensive output: opposing QB completed just six passes for 54 yards, 42 of which came on one play (19:04–20:02).
  • A broader reflection on the Jets as a historically tough landing spot for quarterbacks, citing recent and past QB woes.

  "[Fields] had 54 yards passing. 42 of those yards came on a play... if you take that away, he completed five passes for 12 yards."
  — Analyst 3 (19:44)

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7. Broncos’ Defensive Dominance & Ugly Football

• Broncos Beat Raiders in a Defensive Struggle

  • Denver extends winning streak but offense is stagnant.
  • Heavy praise for Denver’s front seven and defensive unit.

  "Their front seven matches up with anybody. I don't care who you like—Minnesota, Texans, Eagles, Rams, Green Bay—their front seven..."
  — Analyst 3 (69:21)

• Analysis of Bad QB Play

  • Multiple games highlighted where quarterbacks put up meager numbers but teams still managed to win thanks to defense and special teams.
  • Critique of Raiders’ offensive woes and their kicker’s failure to send game to overtime (61:31).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On NFL’s MVP Race:

  "It would have to be a quarterback to come on and just have a crazy surge the last eight weeks. But Matt Stafford—if they keep winning—definitely Stafford."
  — Analyst 1 (41:07)

• On Browns’ Situation:

  "They want to get draft picks. They’re going to redo this thing."
  — Analyst 3 (21:37)

• On Franchise Quarterbacks:

  "If you got a guy, you got a chance ... but locking in for a decade is so difficult to find."
  — Analyst 1 (25:21)

• On Broncos Defense:

  "Don't sleep on 99—Allen—in the middle. Boy, he whipping ass in there."
  — Analyst 3 (65:37)

• On Broncos Game Quality:

  "In a game that set offensive football back 50, 60, 70 years, the Broncos beat the Raiders in a snooze fest..."
  — Analyst 3 (59:30)

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Highlighted Segments with Timestamps

• Matthew Stafford’s MVP Case: [04:35–07:52]
• Jonathan Taylor’s Explosive Game & MVP Contention: [34:02–41:07]
• Browns’ QB Woes & Tanking Theories: [16:20–23:37]
• Building Around an Elite QB (Cincy, KC, Buffalo): [24:49–25:53]
• Jets/Bears Quarterback Fiascos: [19:04–20:49]
• Rams & Seahawks Among League Best: [06:05], [49:12–50:05]
• Broncos Defensive Masterclass: [59:30–69:26]

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Tone & Style

The episode is candid, opinionated, and blends stats with personal experience. Shannon Sharpe and his co-hosts exhibit the banter and familiarity of NFL insiders, mixing facts with humor ("You get a touchdown! You get a touchdown!"). They criticize coaches and franchises openly, speculate freely on player futures (esp. Myles Garrett), and repeatedly reinforce how unpredictable and brutally difficult NFL team-building really is.

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Transcript

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[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey, that them Aaron Rodgers numbers boy. Thank you. Hey them Aaron Rodgers number. I know, I know Jonathan Taylor's playing well right now, but if he continues to put these type of numbers up, well you know where that MVP going, it's going to be right down there in la.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey, this game was over early. This game was over early. It was 21 zip with 13 minutes left in the second quarter. If you playing Madden, the game is over. You gotta pass the sticks.

[Sports Analyst 3]

It was over that what the. The turnovers killed him. I mean Juwan Jennings, Mac Jones. Mac Jones was 33 of 39, 319, three touchdowns, one pick. This is not hindsight. I said, I said the 49ers should have stayed exactly where they are and took Mac Jones. They said, stay, we're right where you are and take Mac Jones. You don't have to give up that draft capital and. But that's, hey, that's story to be told another day in time. George Kittle, 9 catches, 84 yards of touchdown. Juwan Jennings, 6 catches, 71 yards touchdown. Christian McCaffrey had 8 catches, 66 yards. They didn't run the ball really well today. The Rams kind of got after him a little start in the run game, but Matthew Stafford's dealing. When you got Puka and you got.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Devonte, they were cooking.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Still rotting people up.

[Sports Analyst 1]

They were cooking.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Parkinson tight end Touchdown Allen touchdown. They, they look, they're good. The Rams are good. And I, I tweeted though. Joe, are we sure, Are we certain the Rams and the Seahawks aren't the best two teams in football? Are we certain that's not the case? Because we saw, we saw, we saw Seattle Monday night. No, we saw them. Was it Sunday night when they beat the brakes off the commanders. And we know that. And then we, they turn around and do it. I mean, they have 35 at 1/2 and 35. I mean 73 points in two halves.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Is there anyone that would want to argue the fact that they're not the two best teams, regardless of AFC or nfc? I mean, who would argue that fact?

[Sports Analyst 3]

People might say the Patriots, somebody still might believe the Lions, you know, you know, but based on what I've seen, the consistency wise, I think for me those are, I think those are the two best teams for me, but Stafford, but for me, you know, Drake May, and I think Drake May is playing unbelievable, but his numbers aren't comparable. I mean, you go look at Stafford, he's on place to throw, so he has eight games to go. So he's on pace to throw 50 touchdowns with four interceptions. How many yards does he have? So he's going to be over 4,000, over 4,500 yards. Unless somebody's comparable to that, they're not taking that award for him. Now, if Jonathan Taylor saves the gold rush for 2100 yards and 25 touchdowns now, I think it's going to be a very close race.

[Sports Analyst 1]

It's gonna be a conversation. But you, you know how the NFL is. You know how it is. I think it would have to be an historical, historical number 2100 for them to take it away from a quarterback.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Yeah, and the thing is, I mean, and because there he's. He's putting these numbers out here because remember Ocho, the game against Jacksonville, he had five touchdowns and, and didn't have 200 yards passing. So he's putting. He's putting up these numbers and he's not having to do a whole lot late. They just running the football. Kyron Williams corn, you know, 30 carries, a buck 26. Nice, smooth, easy. But now Matthew Stafford looks good. He look as good as at any point in time. These ever look. Rams gonna be tough. I can't wait when the Rams play Seattle again.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Rams in Seattle next week.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Oh, the Rams play Seattle next week. Ocho, is that. Is that a Fox game or is it got.

[Sports Analyst 1]

It gotta be.

[Sports Analyst 3]

That's what I'm saying. I'm asking when do they play them?

[Sports Analyst 1]

So next week and then in la.

[Sports Analyst 3]

And then that's gonna be December in Seattle. That's gonna be a good game next week. You're gonna be a game. Is it a Sunday? Is it Sunday night? Is it a Monday?

[Sports Analyst 1]

1 o' clock.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Afternoon, late game?

[Sports Analyst 1]

Okay, so Thursday in mid December. Oh.

[Sports Analyst 3]

No, I. I like to see these guys fully, fully healthy. Oo the Buccaneers lose to the Patriots by the score of 2823. Trayon Henderson. Hey, that Joe, right? I said, hey, y', all, can I score? Y' all want me to score? What y' all want me to do?

[Sports Analyst 1]

I've never seen anybody check with the coaches on the sideline, running full speed to make sure it was okay.

[Sports Analyst 3]

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[Sports Analyst 1]

He looking way over there.

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[Sports Analyst 3]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

He saw the closest.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Drake May was 16 to 31. 272 touchdowns, one interception. Treveon Henderson, 14 carries, a buck 47 and two long touchdowns. He had one his longer 69. That was the one. He was looking see what was really going on. He took another one to the house. Max old barefoot Mac, six catches a buckle, four Williams one catch, 72 yards. House call. Stefan Diggs on fourth. I think it was fourth down. He ended up catching the touchdown. Five catches, 46 yards and a touchdown. Mecca Buka, six catches, 115 touchdown. K dot, nine for 82. Terence Johnson, 4:42, two touchdowns. They ran the ball decent. 21 carries, a buck 13. Baker played exceptionally well again. 28, 43, 273, three touchdowns. Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Drake. Drake.

[Sports Analyst 3]

What. What does Drake made numbers look like?

[Sports Analyst 1]

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Now you understand why Mr. Kraft had to make a decision. Yes, Gerard Mail, I got the job, but this guy's just too good. I don't want anybody else to get him. You sometimes you got to make hard decisions sometimes.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Listen, if I was braver, I would have, I would, I would have hoped, I'm not sure how that, how their relationship is. I would have made sure to have Mayo part of that team at, part of the coach staff.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Well, he got sacked. We know he got sacked five, at least five times in the Cleveland game because Miles Garrett got him all five. Got him five times. Oh, that's a lot. In 10 games, he's been sacked 34 times.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Shoot.

[Sports Analyst 3]

So he's on pace to get those get sacked over 60. We got 35 today, including today. So, man, he's on pace to get sacked 60 plus times.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Listen, what's, what's David Carr record again? Sack 76.

[Sports Analyst 3]

You don't want to be, you don't want to be messing with that. They'll break you. They'll break, they'll break you physically and mentally.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Absolute. But that's a lot of hits, huh? That's a lot. That's a lot. It's a lot. A lot of wear and tear, especially for a quarterback only in his second year.

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The Browns lose to the jets by the score of 2720. Browns coach Kevin Stefanski isn't Ready to make a change at quarterback just yet. When asked by reporters if he planned to stick with rookie Dylan Gabriel as the team starting quarterback, Stefanski asserted Gabriel will remain at the helm. After the loss to the Jets. Gabriel has thrown 869 yards, seven touchdowns, two interception in his rookie season. He led Cleveland to just one win with the game October 19th against the Dolphins. And, and they are now 2 and 7 on the year. Ojo. I just don't know how you're going to win games checking the ball down. I just don't know.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I told, I told you before, listen, I love Dylan Gabriel. I love. We was able to do it. Oregon. But against, in the NFL, if you're not able to throw inside of the hashes, inside of the, I mean outside of the numbers, if you can't make those throws like normal quarterbacks can do, you're not gonna win games checking the ball down. You're just not. Unless you have elite superior talent around you, you're not going to be able to do it. You're not going to be able to do it.

[Sports Analyst 3]

They don't have to.

[Sports Analyst 1]

You're just not. I mean dude, he was what, 17 for 32, 167. He had two teams today and for the Browns to have success, the running game has to be on. For the Browns to have success, the running game has to be slap ass on. It just has to because that's the only way you're going to be able to fool teams is with play action, low RPO and stuff like that. But just at this point I don't know what the fancy is going to do. I think he's going to, he's going to continue to die on this hill because they truly do not want Shador to get in there and start.

[Sports Analyst 3]

You lose a game in which the opposing quarterback goes 6, 4, 11, 54 yards, a touchdown and an interception. So you lose a game in which the opposing team did not have 200 yards of total offense.

[Sports Analyst 1]

It's the NFL too. Now just mind you this, let me.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Say that they didn't have 170 yards of total offense and you lost. Yes, your special teams let you down. You gave up a kick return for a touchdown and you gave up a, a punt return for a touchdown. But this is not the first time that, that Justin has thrown for less than 100 yards.

[Sports Analyst 1]

He did early, early in the season.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Oo, let's be all the way.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Wait, wait. Take your time now.

[Sports Analyst 3]

I just don't see it ever working for Justin Fields.

[Sports Analyst 1]

You know, I have A question?

[Sports Analyst 3]

Yes.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Can we play devil's advocate and think about all the quarterbacks that were there? And it didn't work for them, but obviously they went somewhere else to the right situation, and it worked a la Sam Darnold, who was the number three, who's the third pick in the draft, who went to the jets, and for some reason it just didn't work.

[Sports Analyst 3]

What you call with the double two pick in the draft? Wilson. Zach Wilson.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Oh, okay. Yeah. Bingo. So maybe, maybe, maybe it's just the jets organization, they haven't had a good, competent quarterback since Broadway Joe. And you told me, you know, you told me Joe wasn't even that good.

[Sports Analyst 3]

He got more interception than touchdown passing. But that's not here. We're not here to talk about that, Ocho. Justin Fields had 54 yards passing. 42 of those yards came on a play. Hey, so in other words, if we take that away, he completed five passes for 12 yards.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I don't even sound real. Honestly, you heard me.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Even on their worst day, Zach Wilson and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and Sam Darnold didn't. Didn't look like this. Hey, man, I don't know. I. I don't know what's going on. Maybe, maybe so, Ocho. Maybe he has. Maybe he needs to get out of there and go somewhere else too. Maybe, maybe. But it ain't gonna be there. It ain't gonna be there. But here's the thing, Ocho. We've seen him. We've seen him in Chicago, we've seen him other places.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Listen, he was. He was decent. And he was decent in Pittsburgh. Now he was decent. The only thing that happened, he let. I think they were 4 and 2. They were 4 and 2. When Russell Wilson came back, if I'm not mistaken, he was playing extremely well. He was playing extremely well, but I was hoping. I was hoping. Finally, Justin Field gets his chance. He gets his team, quarterback number one. You don't have to worry about anything except going out there and playing freely because you're not peeking anybody over your shoulder. Nobody's coming to take your spot. It's as you are, you or this is your team. Now's your opportunity to show people what you can do. And it's just. I don't know.

[Sports Analyst 3]

I don't either. Like I said. Hold up. Excuse me. Bless you, Cleveland.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Laughing at. Oh, Lord. What happened?

[Sports Analyst 3]

Boy, Cleveland.

[Sports Analyst 1]

It's bad, huh?

[Sports Analyst 3]

Yeah. I mean, look, Cleveland ain't trying to win. We got. Look, let's stop. We gotta stop expecting Shador Because Shador gonna come in there and try to win. They don't want to win. They want to get draft picks. They want to read. They're going to redo this thing. I mean, they're going to redo this thing. And, and would I be surprised after this season if Miles Garrett said, yeah, yeah, I, I gave y' all a chance, but y' all not gonna do anything. Let me.

[Sports Analyst 1]

You think they're gonna let him go.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Take them draft picks and rebuild? You gonna go. You gonna go 2 and 15 with it?

[Sports Analyst 1]

You might. Well, you might as well go 2 and 15 without him.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Might as well try to rebuild for the future and get. Get three first round draft picks and go start over.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah, listen, I wouldn't mind seeing Miles come on right down the street, man. Come on down there in Cincinnati now. Have a good old time with your boy. What you think about that?

[Sports Analyst 3]

What?

[Sports Analyst 1]

Miles come on down an hour down the street and come on down here to Cincinnati?

[Sports Analyst 3]

No, first of all, you do know who you start. First of all, the Browns used to be owned by. Oh, yeah, I know history.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I know the history, but I'm just listening. I can dream.

[Sports Analyst 3]

I don't. Look, I don't think there's no team in the AFC north that has a chance of getting Miles Gary.

[Sports Analyst 1]

He'll be in. He going. He going to the NFC for sure.

[Sports Analyst 3]

I'm get. I. I'm doing everything I can to get him out of the afc. Now, if somebody in the afc, hey want to offer three. Three first round picks in the player I'm gonna have, as long as it's not in my division, if it's in the AFC west or the AFC South, AFC east, somebody I'm only gonna see once every two, three years. Okay, I can. I can deal with that. But somebody gotta play twice a year. Oh. Oh, hell no.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Not. Not. Listen, not. Not that kind of player. Absolutely not. I don't want none of that.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Absolutely not. Absolutely not. But clean. Look, Cleveland's not that good, man. I'm. I'm happy for AG that he's put together two wins, but who's the worst team? Saints.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I mean, is that. It's a toss up out of the Saints in the. In the jets, huh?

[Sports Analyst 3]

Yes, but the Saints only got one win, right? Yeah. I mean, the jets are 2 and 7. Cleveland's 2 and 7. Titans are 1 and 8.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Oh, I forgot about the Titans. Hey, hey, the Titans been sliding right up under the radar, huh? They've been sliding.

[Sports Analyst 3]

They're gonna be bad. They gonna. They go they, they, they trying to get that number one pick to get.

[Sports Analyst 1]

To and, and get what?

[Sports Analyst 3]

Some trade it and get some more picks. Hey, I mean, that's what you need to do.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Ojo one thing about it. Boy, it's hell building a team. Boy, it's hell building a team.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Unless, unless you get that guy. You see how quickly Cincinnati turned it around once they got Joe. You see how Buffalo turned it around once they got Josh Allen? You look, the Kansas City was right there because they had Alex Smith. They got Alex Smith to the trade and they, but when they got Patrick Mahomes, what they do. Yeah, yeah, look at the charges now that they got Herbert. You see every year when you got that guy Ocho, if you got a guy, if you get a guy, you got a chance because I can feel it. If I got the foundation, you just.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Going, you're going from there. That's the easy part. But that's the problem. And I don't think that the chat understands or understand how difficult. Even if you're a fan of football, I'm talking about, you don't understand how difficult it is. I don't know how far and few quarterbacks are good quarterbacks that you can just, you can lock in and say, you know what? This is my quarterback for the next decade, the next 15 years. And I can build around him that is so difficult to find. Esther, I don't want to be disrespectful, but okay, you know what I'm trying to say.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Yeah, but I, I, look, I, I don't, I ain't even, I ain't even thinking about it when they, I'm just waiting on them when, when Mary Kay Cabby reported that the, that Shador Sanders, when she reported, then I'm, then I, I, I, I worry about it, but I'm not worried about it now because that it ain't happening. They seem to be hell bent on trying to prove that Dylan Gabriel can play. And he might, hey, maybe we need to give him more time. He is a rookie quarterback. But I just don't think they have enough pieces around him to support him. But hey, they believe in him. So that's all we got.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey, I still can't believe that outside. If you, if you take away Breeze Hall 40, some yard run feels really hit. Was it raining? Was it raining that game?

[Sports Analyst 3]

Yeah. Okay, it started raining. I don't, I don't. It didn't look like it was raining at the beginning of the game, but as it got later, it, you know, it started coming Down.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Damn. I'm. He only had 1212 yards.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Yeah. If you take away that 42 yards.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Damn. I mean even with the elements I played in ring games and you know, had over 100 and when you think about it, just operating a simple offense, basic offense. I right, I left, I mean running curl routes, out routes, I mean that's 12 yards right there. That's just one play. The fact how do you have something like that in four quarters of play again lets me know we're being cautious. Don't want to put the. We don't trust the ball in your hands. So therefore this is what we have to do.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

God damn.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Breeze hall was basically the offense of their hundred hold up they had 40. So that, so 42, 127. That's 169. Breeze hall had 125 of the 169 total yards.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Nah, that, that's, Yeah, I, I, I.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Just think Justin Fields need to go somewhere. Woody Johnson is not. It doesn't mean, doesn't even matter. It doesn't even matter who, who, who plays quarterback. We've seen far too many. The only one that's had a little success for an extended period of time was Chad Pennington, but nobody else. I mean Boomer, you got to go back to. Boomer had his couple of years there in the, in the 90s. You got to go back to Kenny O' Brien in the 80s but it's just like sporadic. It's like kind of hit or miss. Vinnie came in, had a good year back in, what was that, 98. They went to the FC championship game. We beat him in Denver. And then I think they had that historic comeback on Monday night. Remember they had that Monday, that comeback again. It was against the Dolphins I think Ocho. Yeah, but it's just, it's just not working for no quarterback. And, and if I'm a quarterback I just dread going to.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Well, hold on. It depends on the quarterback. You have to be him. You have to be a Lamar Jackson.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Aaron Rodgers was him how he looked.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Oh yeah. You know what? But look, look where he was.

[Sports Analyst 3]

So a guy that got four MVPs. And as a sports ballot hall of Famer, you know, you look at easier top 10 top 5 quarterback of all time. How do you look there?

[Sports Analyst 1]

You know what, when you put it like that. But this is the thing. How would a prime Aaron Rodgers look? He'd be fine because he can, he can elevate everything around him.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Yeah, yeah. I mean but you think about what you're saying now you talk about there. There ain't probably been 10 quarterbacks in the history of the game better than Aaron Rodgers. So you talking what's the likelihood of you possibly getting one of those?

[Sports Analyst 1]

Not, not likely. Not likely.

[Sports Analyst 3]

So I don't know what your.

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I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.

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[Sports Analyst 1]

It feels like it's trying to divide people.

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[Sports Analyst 3]

Ocho I don't know if you saw this game this morning, but Jonathan Taylor runs for 244 rush yards, three touchdowns and and the Colts 3,125 victory over the Falcons in Berlin is Taylor's third career 200 yard rushing day. Taylor is the fourth player in NFL history to have at least 200 yards rushing and at least three rushing touchdown in a game twice in his career. He joins Jim Brown, Adrian Peterson, excuse me, and Derrick Henry. He moved past hall of Famer Edwin James for the most rushing touchdowns in Colts history. Hey he look I for me him and Matthew Stafford. It's hard for me to overlook Matthew Stafford, what he's doing. He's had three straight games where he throwed at least four touchdowns and zero interceptions. That's facts. I don't think he's throwing an interception in the last six games. And he got 20 touchdowns in the last six games with no picks. With that being said, Jonathan Taylor's carrying this absolutely. Listen, Daniel Jones was doing his best job to get his game away. Oh yeah, he tried his damned. And Shane Stagger said, you know what? I got this workhorse man. Let me turn around, man. Let me take the ball at your damn. You hand the ball off.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Jt, they got damn Falcon defense was putting that pressure on Buddy, man. He's putting that pressure that, that they.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Got him seven times.

[Sports Analyst 1]

So obviously he was a little bit rattled, you know, trying, trying to process. He trying to sit back there and go through his goddamn reads. He getting hit in the head every goddamn time.

[Sports Analyst 3]

You know what, Ocho? A lot of times is that, look, sacks are going to happen. But say just hold on to the ball. You can't every time they hit you let the ball go because that, that's, that's going to happen. And then the interception, I'm like, what you. I give him credit. The, the old Daniel Jones at the Giants, I'm not sure he, he, he's gonna stand there like he did today, but when you got that guy right there, that is a threat. Anytime they hit his head on the goal post, they got him bottled up. He stepped, I mean, 244 rushing yards. Tack on another 42 yards receiving. Ocho, man had damn near 270 yards.

[Sports Analyst 1]

And hey.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Tyler Warren, I love this kid. Look, and this is not a knock on love lace. I think that's the, the tight end in Chicago because I think they took him. Is it love lace or lovely, lovely. But I like that. I like the Warren kid.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Nice.

[Sports Analyst 3]

He is sensational. He'll he a go getter. I love his game. Watching him at Penn State, I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He, he, he, he, he the real deal. I, I love his game. JT's over 1100 yards, 1139 rush yards and 10 games. So he got seven games to go. Eight. Eight.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Huh?

[Sports Analyst 3]

Oh, they got. No, no, they got, they already played 10. They got seven, 17 games. Yeah, they, they, they haven't had their bye week yet. I don't think so. That's why they got 10. And the Falcons have only played three. I mean, only played nine. But hey, these tight ends, man, they just. The tight ends. Oh, they just got more tight ends to do it. They just got more. They were just back in the 80s, and you have one or two. You had Ozzy and Kellen, and then in the 90s, you had. You had Jay Novichek for a couple of years, and then Ben. Ben coast and myself. You had Star. I know. I don't know. I know. The Patriots fans, you guys will remember starving Marvin Cook, but for the most part now, it was always like one or two, maybe three on the high end. Now you got McBride. Now you got Hawkinson. Now you got. Now you got this kid Warren. You got Lovely Loveland. You, You, You. You got just so many guys. You got. You know, you got a Mark Andrews, you got a Travis Kelsey, you got a Rodney Gas in second. I mean, you just got so many guys. Ocho, you got a Brock Bowers. You had Kraft that ended up tearing his knee for the Green Bay Packers. You have so many guys now that can do it that it doesn't even seem special anymore. It seems special when there's only a handful of guys doing it. Now you got a bunch of these guys can do it. But, man, he was. Man, he was. I was like, damn. But he's definitely in MVP discussion.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Taylor, Jonathan, John. You talk about Jonathan.

[Sports Analyst 3]

How many. How many yards did. Can we. Can you figure out how many yards Saquon had at this point last year, 10 games into the season? So. Cause he damn sure got to be on pace for 2000.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah, he should be. Absolutely. If. If we got.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Hold on. He's in 10 games. He has 1139. So he's averaging, like 113 yards a game.

[Sports Analyst 1]

So.

[Sports Analyst 3]

113 times seven. What would that give him? Would that give him that. Give him 2000? Yeah, we forgot about Kittle.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I. I said it.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Yeah, okay. Hell, I mean, we're gonna talk about the Rams in a minute. They threw a touchdown. Every. Every tight end for the Rams caught a touchdown. But me, hell, I was like, call my old ass out of retirement. Throw me one damn 49ers. Y' all gonna cover anybody tight?

[Sports Analyst 1]

Pinch him something.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Yeah, I'm like, damn. They were like. They was giving that touchdown like Oprah gave our car that time. You get a car and you'll get a touchdown. You get a touchdown. But Taylor, man, he is.

[Sports Analyst 1]

He bought. He balling.

[Sports Analyst 3]

I think Jonathan Taylor has 11:39. Yeah. Wow.

[Sports Analyst 1]

What happened?

[Sports Analyst 3]

So he's two yard. He's two yards ahead of what Saquon was at the Same time last year, but he got way more touchdowns than Saquon had. I think this guy, I think he got like 15 touchdowns already. Yeah, he got a chance to get. Lt's record now. Yeah. No, so if he averages he's got 15, he can get 25. I mean, you get 25, they're going to seriously, seriously give this guy. If he gets 2,000 yards and say 25 to 30 touchdowns, he gonna be MVP.

[Sports Analyst 1]

That, that, that, that, that is, that is a possibility. It would have to be a quarterback to come on and just have a crazy surge the last eight weeks. They would have to have a crazy surge. And if they.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Because what go ahead.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Is one. It would probably. I would say it would probably be Matt Stafford, especially if they keep winning.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stafford, Stafford. Definitely Stafford. Stafford. Drake may.

[Sports Analyst 1]

But Drake. Drake may balling up. Well, Drake, Drake made ball. He willing and dealing around in New England. Boy, wow.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Jonathan Taylor has two more yards on eight fewer carries than what Saquon had at the same time last year, but he has seven more touchdowns. Crazy so. And we know what we was thinking about Saquon at this point in time. And the thing is you can't stack the line because they got a combat quarterback and they got receiver that can go get the football. You got a Tyler Warren, you got a Pierce, you got a Michael Pittman Jr. You got downs, you. So you got guys. You can't just play eight in the box. You really try to lead these guys one on one outside.

[Sports Analyst 1]

No, no, no, not at all. So, hey, the funny thing about it is, when you watch film, you see Taylor have games like he had last week. Hell, we in week 10, you already know where the ball is going and he's still getting off and do what he wants to do. And I think there is a healthy balance. Obviously, Daniel Jones was a little shaky today. He was a little shaky last, you know, last week. But outside of that, since week one, he's been really good throwing the ball through the air. He's been really good at it. So there's a healthy balance that they do have. Despite Jonathan Taylor having an impeccable season thus far, teams are going to prove, all right, you're going to have to beat us through the air. We not allowing you. We're not allowing you to run the ball. If we have to run a goddamn 4, 6 bear defense, you finna throw that goddamn ball.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Yeah, well, that's what's gonna happen. But here's the thing. The thing that concerns me is that they're right. Their tackles been getting the ass kicked. Either the tackles, their tackles been getting their ass.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Who the hell is that? Goddamn left tackle.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Hell, the right one, Smith. I forget the. The left tackle name.

[Sports Analyst 1]

But. But both of them. Not just the left one, the right one, too.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Both of them had got their ass handed to him today.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Oh, this is Indy schedule next week. Oh, okay. Here's Indy schedule at Chiefs, Texas at home at Jags at Seahawks, 49ers at home, Jags at home at Texas.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey, that. That Chiefs game, they need to be. They need. Need to be able to move that to a prime time game, depending on what time it is.

[Sports Analyst 3]

It's the morning game. It's a 1am game.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Damn. Well, that's. That's one supposed to be 430.

[Sports Analyst 3]

I'm looking. They got the. The Colts play the 49ers. That's a Monday night game. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Chiefs play the Broncos next week.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Oh, y' all f. To get Molly Wap. Hey, but y' all finna get Molly walk, boy.

[Sports Analyst 3]

No, we're not. Yeah, Ain't happening. But the Colts moved to 8 and 2, number one seed in the AFC currently, thanks to a 3125 overtime victory over the Atlanta Falcons. Oh, show. DeMarcus Lawrence has scores two defensive touchdowns on plays that seem so similar to each other. Same guys forced to fumble. D Law. Johnny on the spot picks it up. But D Law returned two fumbles for touchdown. Became the sixth player and the sixth player since at least 1991 with two defensive touchdowns in the first half of a game. Seahawks finished with five sacks while playing with our interest starters Julian Love, Josh Job, Ernest Jones IV and Jaren Reed. They got it. They. They got after Jacoby.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Absolutely.

[Sports Analyst 3]

They got it.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Absolutely.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Ocho, me and you talked about this. Marvin Harrison Jr. Gonna have to start catching the ball. It's really that simple.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 3]

He'S been really that simple. Ocho, he too good. Ocho, he too good to have those drops like that, man. He too good. And his dad say the offense not flowing and no so forth and so on. But, but, but. Hey, Marv, your son gotta hold on to the ball, bro. He does. He does.

[Sports Analyst 1]

A little inconsistent. Little inconsistent.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Jacobi Brissette was 22 of 42. 258, two touchdowns. Got sacked five times. How he ended up with numbers like this, I don't know. Because hell seemed like every time in the first half he dropped.

[Sports Analyst 1]

McBride had a day. McBride had not McBride.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Well, McBride. I mean, look, he. He wanted to Go to tight ends. Nine catches above 27. One touchdown on 13 targets. D. Mercado, three for 40 on four catches. Marvin Harrison Jr. Three catches, 12 targets.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey, they were trying to get in that rock, boy. They were trying to get in that rock.

[Sports Analyst 3]

If they throw it to you, you can't throw it back at them. I mean, we got to be real. Chad. Y'. All. Y' all watch the game. He drops a lot of passes.

[Sports Analyst 1]

He does. Hey, it was 350 in the second quarter. Yes, it was eight minutes left in the second quarter. It was 35 0. This is the NFL game. I mean, when they. Listen, when Arizona played the Cowboys last week, man, we was hooping and hollering, excited. Oh, they're probably not going to start Kyler Murray. They felt Jacoby Brissette was the better option going forward. He looked good. But you see what happened when you go against a real team with a better defense, with a real defense, and they coming. They coming to get you. You got two, maybe two and a half seconds to get that ball out your hands, and that's about it. And that Seattle offense.

[Sports Analyst 3]

They didn't have to do my Ocho. Sam Darnold was still 12 for 178 yards.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey.

[Sports Analyst 3]

This bad threw. This man threw the ball 12 times. Ocho, in the NFL game, and one convincingly. It wasn't even that close. They ran the ball 46 times for 198 yards. Charbonneau had 14 carries for 80, 83 yards. Kenneth Walker III had 14 for 67. But Jackson, Smith and Jigba 5 for 93 in a tub. Cooper Cup 2 for 74. That was. That was the damage right there. That was seven for 167 right there.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey, Charmino, remind me of Robert Smith when he was with the Vikings. Yeah, same. Same running style. Pants shirt tucked in, pants high.

[Sports Analyst 3]

The thing is. Oo this game wouldn't. They might have scored 60 if. If Sam Darnold holds on to the. If they don't fumble, they don't fumble the ball. And then he turned it over. This game. This game could have easily been 50 to 50 to 10, 50, something, whatever.

[Sports Analyst 1]

The coaches would have been fighting on the field after the game if they. If they ran that score up like that.

[Sports Analyst 3]

They wasn't running up. Oh. All they had to do was not turn it over.

[Sports Analyst 1]

That was a good game. Hey, Seattle look good, man, on both. Hey, both sides of the ball.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Yeah, Seattle look good, man. They look good. Their defense get after you and they have. I mean, think about how many Starters, they had out Julian Love. Starter Josh Job. Starter Ernest James, Ernest Jones. The fourth starter, Jaron Reed. That's four starters and they put, and they did had a performance like this today. They good. They good. They can run it, they can throw it, they can get after the quarterback. They, they're. Hey, and now they got Woolen and they got Spoon.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Spoon. Nice.

[Sports Analyst 3]

They. Hey, we'll find out a lot next week. Cause they got the rail. They ain't gonna be put to the test because you got, hey, you got devontae and Poco. Where they playing at in la.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Well, let's go to the game. I hit stand. We can get, we get, we get courtside.

[Sports Analyst 3]

I'm good.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey, y'.

[Sports Analyst 2]

All.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Well, you don't never want to hang out with me. Boy, I'll tell you, boy, I tell you about.

[Sports Analyst 3]

No, I don't wanna, I don't wanna hang out at the game.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I tell you about black folk. Well, y' all be, y' all be killing me.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Hey, I told you I'm coming out to visit you in the off season.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Why we gonna wait all the way to the off season?

[Sports Analyst 3]

Yeah, we working now, man.

[Sports Analyst 1]

You need to learn to live a little bit, man. You could come down here right now, we could do the show, you know, like in, in, in the same, in the same house. I think the people would love to see that, you know.

[Sports Analyst 3]

You know, we, I don't think they.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Love side by side.

[Sports Analyst 3]

And plus, I, I, I got to, you know, I gotta take a few trips. I gotta do some stuff for some other stuff. So I gotta say I gotta save my, I gotta save, save my.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Ocho backup quarterback Davis Mills and the Texans overcame a 19 point fourth quarter deficit to stun the Jags is the second largest franchise history, only behind the 21 point comeback win over the Chargers in 2013. It's the first time the Jaguars had led by 19 points in a game and lost. Before Today they were 53, 0 in such games, including the playoffs, and were the only current NFL franchise that had won each such game.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Man, Trevor Lawrence, man.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey, hey, he's the answer. But he had a bad day today though.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Yeah, but far too many of those. Remember, Remember the Rams game over there? What were they in London? Yeah, yeah, he stunk that one up.

[Sports Analyst 1]

He stung it up. He just need a little bit more.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Ocho 13 or 23, a buck 58. They barely had, they barely had two. I don't know, they had 20, 50 yard passing.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey, that, that fourth quarter was bad, huh? But the Texas outscored The goddamn Jaguars 260 in the fourth quarter. One quarter.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Yeah, that, that how we did that. How we did you know we scored 33 against the Jackson in the quarter. 33 in the fourth quarter. We were down.

[Sports Analyst 1]

How many possessions y' all had? 3 or 4.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Don't worry about it. Enough to score 30.

[Sports Analyst 1]

They must turn. They must have turned the ball over twice.

[Sports Analyst 3]

I tell you what, I know what we did to the them Bangles.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I wasn't playing, was I?

[Sports Analyst 3]

We the one that got Jake Browning on the bench, made him trade for Joe Flacco. Here's where you lost the game at jags. Texas was 10 or 15 on third down.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey, super, super duper efficient. Super duper efficient. I'm trying.

[Sports Analyst 3]

They had 69 plays, you had 55 plays. They had 11 drives. You had. But they averaged six yards per play. You averaged 3.9.

[Sports Analyst 1]

That's Cree. Oh, 26.

[Sports Analyst 3]

See, like Jags. The Jags spent a lot of effort to beat the. Beat the Chiefs. Remember, they had to go. Didn't they go to overtime to beat the Raiders last week.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Man, Trevor Lawrence.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Just a little bit more consistency. That's it. A little bit, a little bit more consistency.

[Sports Analyst 3]

I get it. But it, we, we, we've been at this for a while now.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sports Analyst 3]

We keep saying we need him to be a little bit more consistent and he ain't being consistent.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Not, not at all. He's not. He's not playing well. He's playing. He's too up and down. You don't know what Trevor Lawrence you're going to get, but he got all the talent in the world.

[Sports Analyst 3]

He got all, oh, he can make every throw, he's athletic, he got all intangibles. He got a big time arm.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Exactly what you look for in a quarterback, a franchise quarterback. But you just want them to have a strength, be able to put him back to back, put him back to back to back to back to back to back to back. If you're going to have errors, let's minimize them. He's have, he's having one too many. One too many. There's, there's no way a team is supposed to be able to come back in a game like this and score 26, 26. As a quarterback, you supposed to give me my best chance to win. Not just win, but at least compete week to week. You playing it, playing against a backup quarterback.

[Sports Analyst 3]

But that defense, man, they, hey, they saw that. Hold on, man. We stopped and we got a touchdown. Hey, let's hold them again. Let's hold. Man A. Anderson Jr. And the guy they got from Minnesota, what's his name? Daniel Hunter.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah. Hey, them boy. Nice boy. Hey, they coming. They coming to the party, invitation or no invitation.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Yeah. Remind you of somebody else you know, huh?

[Sports Analyst 2]

Who?

[Sports Analyst 1]

Benito o'.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Brago. Country Obanito, Zach Allen Cooper. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We still ain't got nobody. Hey, we ain't got nobody within 10 sacks of us. And we don't have. Hey, we do it, might catch you.

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[Sports Analyst 1]

Who?

[Sports Analyst 3]

They had their buy yet? Okay, I don't think we had our buy yet either. Well, we played 10 games.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey, y', all. Y'. All. Y' all defense is real good, though. Like. Like.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Yeah. And we ain't even got pat. Once we get PAT back.

[Sports Analyst 1]

We really. I'm too about, like, really, really, really good.

[Sports Analyst 3]

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[Sports Analyst 1]

You got. You gotta get. You gotta get that office.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Our office stresses them a lot.

[Sports Analyst 1]

You gotta get that offense going.

[Sports Analyst 3]

We definitely got to get the offense going. But that was a good game. I. I watched this through its entirety. Man, my cable bill gonna be like $600. All these damn channels I gotta get to watch these games.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Wait, just use YouTube. NFL Red Zone.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Mad. No comment. Rookie Tyler Shook threw two touchdowns to earn Seattle the Saints first win as they defeat the Panthers 17 to 7. It marks the eighth time and nine starts this season that Bryce Young was limited to fewer than 200 passing yards. Panthers coach Dave Canales described the loss as frustrating. Yeah, you lost to a team that had one win coming into this ball game, and y' all look terrible.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah. The NFL is. You see how week to week, ain't no telling what's going to happen. Ain't no telling. Listen, if you was a gambling man again. I'm going to say it again. If you was gambling. If you was a gambling man and understand the game of football and you was betting. You betting on the Panthers to win this game. You betting on the Panthers to win this game based on how they look this season, They've surprised us. They. But they surprised y'. All. They ain't surprised me because I said this is how they was going to look. But today, if I had put money down, I would have bet the house on them to win today. The Saints, who've only won one game. Ain't no way in hell. Ain't no way in hell. Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 3]

And they're home.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Nah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey, but there's a reason. They say any given Sunday and This is exactly. This is a visual representation of exactly what that phrase means.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Bryce gonna have to get it together. Ocho.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Would you say he got to get it together?

[Sports Analyst 3]

You have to get together.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Old choir boy.

[Sports Analyst 3]

I think next year is going to be make or break for him. I'm not sure they pick up that option. That feels right. Option. I don't think they're going to do that. But next year is going to be huge for him. He's gonna have to have the best. The best career. Best year of his career.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 3]

And the mere fact that they're not. He's not about to get no $300 million deal. Tell you everything you need to know. They.

[Sports Analyst 1]

They don't.

[Sports Analyst 3]

But give the Saints credit. Alvin Camara ran the ball, 22 rushes, 83 yards. Chris Olave had his best game of the season, five catches.

[Sports Analyst 1]

You saw that one. You saw that one hand catch he had.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Johnson, four catches, 92 yards on a touchdown. Kamara, three catches, 32 yards. But they played well. They played extremely well. The defense did a great job of getting after Bryce Young. They. Stymon Rico, 23 carries for 73 yards total for the Carolina offense. That's not nearly good enough. That's not nearly good enough. It hurt them that they fumbled the football. When he fumbled the football, they, you know, what's the guy from horn. Jimmy.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Jimmy.

[Sports Analyst 3]

He fumbled the ball. And that. That won't do it. That won't do it. Ocho. In a game that set offensive football back 50, 60, 70 years, the Broncos beat the Raiders in a snooze fence by the score of 10 to 7. Denver extends its winning streak to seven games. The Broncos moved to 8 and 2. Their next game is against the Chiefs at home. Bo Nicks was 16 of 28, 151 touchdowns, two interceptions. Geno Smith was 16 of 26, 143, one interception. It was bad. It was just bad football all around. Thank you. Denver's defense. I, I don't understand. I'm looking at the Bronco. I, I don't. Listen, there's enough blame to go around, Ocho. I don't know what Sean Payton was calling tonight. Right. I don't know. You got the win at your back and you won't throw it down the field.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yes, sir.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Win in your face, you say, okay. Both throw it down the field. I don't get. You block a punt and you go backwards. You get a pick and you go backwards. It was just bad offensive football. And. And I just remember being in games like this when I was in Denver and we were really good, Ocho. And it was almost like we had lost the game. It was almost like a funeral. Because you have a certain level of expectations that you expect to play to. Yes. And Michael, and you hear me say this all the time, you never accept anything in a win that you wouldn't in a loss.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Right.

[Sports Analyst 3]

We won the game, but you cannot be happy with the way we played in winning the game. You play any team that you. You think you're a playoff team, okay, maybe they go to the playoffs. You're not winning playing that type of offensive football. Yeah, that's just. You just beat a. You just beat a bad team. The Raiders are bad. Yes, they're bad, Ocho. I mean, there's no way around it. I'm not going to sugarcoat it. The Raiders are a bad team.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yes.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Go ahead.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Well, listen, The Raiders are 2 and 8 offensive. They couldn't get anything going. If I'm not mistaken, they had 12 or 12 or 13, 13 drives the series.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Okay.

[Sports Analyst 1]

But they went where they went. Three and out, if I'm not mistaken. Obviously, Geno, with the offense playing as bad as they. They were. They can't overcome interceptions. The hell. The goddamn Broncos defense, they are so goddamn good. I'm not saying. I'm not saying they're the 2000 Ravens. I'm not saying the legion of Boom or they're not. Maybe not the no fly zone of the. Of the Broncos season where they went to the super bowl, but they are goddamn good. They're very good. And minus. No P2 is not even playing right now. I think he's going for the next three weeks. And they were phenomenal. They were phenomenal. That's why they were in the game. And for the Raiders, you have to understand games like this, this is why kickers are so important. Even though it was a snooze fest, it was the opportunity for the game to go in overtime. All the kicker for the Raiders had to was make the kick. Just make the kick. Games are won and lost on the leg. Sometimes you got one job to do. You have one job to do as a kicker that give you a chance to give your team a chance to win or tie a game or send it in overtime. And he wasn't able to do that. And listen, you said it right. It was a snooze fest tonight. Not much offense, but was a lot of defense played. And there really is not. There's really not much to take away from it. But you do get games like this. You do. You do have to win ugly games like this.

[Sports Analyst 3]

And Broncos been winning ugly games. They beat. They. They won. They beat the Texans last week. They basically, the games, just because you score a bunch of points in the end has been ugly. I mean, you. You can't keep spotting teams like this. That's the Raiders.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 3]

I mean, you spot, you play good teams. It's gonna be very interesting. Spot Sandy spot the Chargers like this. Spot Kansas City like this and see what happens. You can't keep. Oh, we can come back. It is. It's great. Can I. Can I.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Can I say something. Can I say something? Even if you do spot among and even with the Chargers deep, even with the Chargers offense, even with the. Even with the Chiefs offense, I don't think. Let's not underestimate how good the Broncos defense is. Oh, defense on all three levels, and offense might be somewhat of Achilles heel for them right now. But even special teams is good. The special team is good, and the defense is phenomenal. So they can overcome bad offensive play because they can make up for it in certain areas.

[Sports Analyst 3]

But here's the thing. What happens. Look, this was a bad team. The Raiders are bad. There's no way around it. And I thought the game plan that they implemented tonight was bad. I thought Bo Nicks played his worst game of the year tonight. He was just downright awful. But Ocho, other team, Kansas City got an offense and a defense. The Chargers got an offense and a defense. So it's like, yeah, they're going. You going to go. Man, look here. People keep telling me, man, y' all just. Y' all just picking on Riley Moss because he. That guy dropped the touchdown. Yeah, that guy dropped the effing touchdown.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yes.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Geno Smith overshot Lockett in the first half. A wide open. Now, I understand that is a tough route to cover. It is. Well, he missed. Lock it on one. And he missed the other. I think it was Thornton that ran a whip route. That was a hard route to cover, but we got to stop this. I understand. Hey, you don't normally see white guys. You can probably count on one hand in the last 50 years that you've seen a white guy play corner. But, boy, if that defense didn't have Allen and Bonito and Cooper and those guys didn't get off the quarterback.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey, hey, them boys nasty up front, man.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Oh, they. They jump off the ball now.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Matter of fact, the front four for the Broncos right now is the way we talked about the front four for the Eagles last year.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Yeah, they. They get off the ball.

[Sports Analyst 1]

They are. Hell, especially them two on the out. Them two, that goddamn Cooper. Hey, you see how fast he get off the goddamn ball?

[Sports Analyst 3]

Yeah, I do.

[Sports Analyst 1]

What?

[Sports Analyst 3]

Hey, don't sleep on 99. Oh, Allen.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Oh, yeah. In the middle.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Boy, he whipping ass in there.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah, he nice. He nice. He really. Hey, for some reason, for some reason, on every team, why is it always that the guard in the center, always the weak link to office the line?

[Sports Analyst 3]

Because your most athletic guys are edge rushers. Your Miles Garrett, your T.J. watts, your Bonitos. Those guys that play the edge. Lawrence Taylor, Derek Thomas, all those guys play the edge. So you put your most athletic. You put your least athletic guys on the inside, right? But then you get a guy like an Aaron Donald or Warren Sapp and they go whip hell out of.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Oh, yep.

[Sports Analyst 3]

And so that. That's what happens. And Allen, he's so. He's. He's. He's tall for D tackle, right?

[Sports Analyst 1]

So.

[Sports Analyst 3]

And the thing is, he can lock out. And so now he locks out. He'll. He'll rip, he'll swim.

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He's.

[Sports Analyst 3]

He's phenomenal. Yeah, he's having. He's having a. He's having a. There's a whole lot of defensive tackles that are better than him. They might have bigger names, but he plays it all. He plays the run. He gets after your quarterback. He can pressure your quarterback. He bad passes, he'll put your quarterback on the ground. He's a. He's a. Hard playing, Jesse. Now you got those two guys that's on the outside, Benito and Cooper, that's forcing everything inside. So you step up here, he's there to clean up.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Right there. Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 3]

So you. You a. It's first come, first serve. Meet me at the quarterback. I'll be there in about 0.73 seconds. Hey, you better not be late if you're late. But I. Look, they set the game of football back. This offensive football, what we watched tonight, this is not indicative of the Broncos. I'm sorry. I've seen the Broncos and I watch them every week and I try to watch them closely. And the third quarter is normally a slews fest for them, but they're a better football team than what they showed tonight. O.J. the office, defensively and special teams won him this game tonight.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yes. But you know, also, I think. I think if I'm not mistaken, the way the play calling was, I think Sean Payton was actually protecting Bo Nicks, making sure he doesn't put him in situations that weren't advantageous. For them where he can turn the ball over. Because I, you know, I see Bo Nicks as somewhat of a gunslinger. He liked to let. He like to let that thing go. He liked to let it go. So I, I, the play calling, to me, it was somewhat conservative to make sure he doesn't put Bo Nicks in situations where he can turn the ball over and give the Raiders opportunities to score.

[Sports Analyst 3]

On third downs. Ocho, the Two teams combined nine of 30. Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

That's crazy. That's crazy, ain't it?

[Sports Analyst 3]

That's nine of 30, Ocho. The Broncos had it 31. And they run a gimmick.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Oh, they go through. They throw the boat. Nick, throw the ball to Courtland Sutton. Courtney Sutton is going to throw the ball. Come, bro, get the first. Y' all are not. You see you're struggling offensively, right? That's what. That's what I don't get. I see we're struggling offensively. The last thing I need to do is get these guys off the field. Let me get this first down, and maybe we can stay at a rhythm. It's hard. The Broncos punter, he was. Let me. He was terrible. The Raiders punter is putting the ball down at the foot line, right? He put the ball out of damn midfield.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 3]

He damn near missed the whole ball. He kicked one ball with the shit. With his shin.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 3]

I'm like, how? You missed the whole damn ball.

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[Sports Analyst 1]

He said he shanked it. He shanked the bed.

[Sports Analyst 3]

He shanked a couple of them. I'm like, well, maybe. Maybe he can't see me. I'm like, bro, what is going on? It's the bright lights, this. You're not gonna play again for another 10 days, Ocho. You got the weekend off. That. That display, what they put on display tonight, defense, defensively. The Broncos are legit defensively. You're not gonna find three, you're not gonna find two. Hey, their top three defense, and I'm not so sure they're not two or three.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 3]

Their front seven. Their front seven matches up with anybody. I don't give a damn who that front seven is. If you like Minnesota, if you like the Texans, if you like the Eagles, if you like the Rams. I don't care who you like Green Bay. I don't care. Their front seven. Their best defensive player is not there. He's not Pat Certain ii, But when you put him back in there, hey, they're legit. At Hill's Pet Nutrition, we know that.

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