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Ocho
I turned off news altogether.
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Unc
I hate to say it, but I.
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Unc
The Patriots looked awful impressive. They beat the Jets 27:14. I don't know. They looked impressive. The jets aren't good, but the Patriots look good. I mean, those first couple of drives. Drake May was Brady esque. I'm talking about.
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Ocho
Yes, he was nice.
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Unc
Step on Diggs. He was dealing, reinvigorated. He looks good. Trevion Henderson is running extremely hard. Two, three, two touchdowns on the ground, one in the air. Drake made 25 of 34, 2811 touchdowns. I thought overall, I thought they played well. But let's. Before we get to the jets, let's highlight the Patriots. Ocho.
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Ocho
Yeah. Okay. Okay.
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Unc
Mike Brable has done an unbelievable job. You go. I'm gonna let you go ahead.
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Ocho
Hell of a job. Hell of a job. Listen, Mike Rabel, I'm not sure what he did once he got there, but he's done one hell of a job. Obviously it makes things much easier when you have a quarterback that's playing out his mind and only his second year in. Drake may in the division, they 3, 0. Obviously the talk has always been the swap bowl. This is their year. The Buffalo bills, they're 2 and 2 in the division. The goddamn. The Patriots have dominated all season long. Being nine and two. This is something I wasn't expecting being being the fan of the game of football that I am, I didn't think they would be this good. They have been really, really well. And because of the quarterback play, obviously the supporting cast defense has played well. Stephon Diggs is playing out of his mind. He's playing out his mind. He's been playing very, very good football. Matt Collins out there Making plays. Douglas doing well. Doing well as well. And Trayvon Henderson. Is it Trayvon Henderson. Am I saying it right? Trayvon Henderson, Treveon, man, listen, but young bull, nice. Boy. Young. Young bull is really. Young Bull, real nice. Hey, hey. He's one of the few running backs, too, on the field that can hit his head off the goal post.
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Unc
Oh, he got speed to play with.
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Ocho
Oh, yeah, he got speed. Got speed to burn, so. Man, they look really good. They look really good tonight, man. And on defense. Hey, that guy. Hey, that guy. Damn. Christian Gonzalez. Hey, he nice.
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Unc
Oh, he.
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Ocho
He.
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Unc
Oh, he fluid.
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Ocho
He. Hey, listen, he nice. He needs. I know he's been injured a little bit, but he needs to be in the conversation of top five DBs, especially.
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Unc
Oh, yeah, yeah, he is. I mean, you know, PS, PS2, Stingley Jr. Him. Yeah, you know, those. Those are. Those are your top. I guess people like JC Horn, some people like JC Horn, but I think. I think Gonzalez, I think PS2, and I think Stingley Jr. I think those are the top three corners in my book, because they all present very, very, very different. Now, Gonzalez and. And PS2 kind. They got kind of same similar body types. They're tall, angular. Stingley is a little bit more compact, probably a little bit. A little more. A little. Because. A little. Probably a little stronger because of the way he. The way he's built. But if you look at the way PS2 and the way he glides, he and Gonzalez have very, very similar game.
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Ocho
Yeah.
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Unc
Yeah. Trayon Henderson. Yeah, he had two rush and one in there. One. Yeah, they threw him one. But, yeah, this is. This is Ocho. This is a very good team. They're very well coached. And now you see why that after one year, Mr. Krabs, like, you know what, Gerard? I really hate to pull the plug this quick, but this coach proven. And it's too good to pass up, and if we don't do this now, there's a good.
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Ocho
He'd be going somewhere else. Yeah, he'd be going somewhere else. Absolutely.
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Unc
Because if you think about it, the Falcons interviewed Mike Vrabel, Mike McDonald at Seattle. They interviewed, like, four guys that are doing extremely well right now, and they settled on Raheem, Horse and Raheem gonna have to get this thing. He gonna have to get this thing turned around. But just watching New England, they don't beat themselves. I. I know, you know, Vraybo doesn't really mention a whole lot, but I think he took a whole lot playing under Coach Belichick. You. The mannerism now, he's not as. He's not as stoic on the sideline. He's waiting to give his guys high fives. Coming off the field, he's waiting to hug his guys. You watch him in the hallway. Oo. When they're coming off the field after Big Rick victory, he's hugging everybody. Hey, come on. Get in here. Come on, let's go. Let's. And he's a guy I would love to play for. He's the type of guy that you love. You love to play for, because he ain't gonna sugarcoat it. Now. Oo. You know exactly where you stand with Mike Vrabel.
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Ocho
Yes, sir.
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Unc
Ocho, take.
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Ocho
Take your time. Take your time.
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Unc
I tweeted a little bit, but I just. I just stopped tweeting because people, you know, I think people are like, man, you picking on the guy. But at some point in time, Ocho, I'm not so sure Justin Fields is going to ever be what a lot of people thought he would become. Ocho, let me give you some of these stats. He was 3, 4, 11. He. He got injured in the fourth quarter for 27 yards.
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Ocho
Yeah.
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Unc
He played the entire game against the Broncos. He was 9 of 17 for 45 yards. He played the entire game against the Carolina panthers. He was 6 of 12 for 46 yards. In the loss to Cleveland, he was 6 of 11 for 54 yards. And 42 of your. Those yards came on a screen plate screen pad hall tonight.
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Ocho
Yeah.
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Unc
Before the final drive, he had 75 yards passing.
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Ocho
Yes, sir.
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Unc
I think A.D. mitchell left his hands in indy.
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Ocho
Yeah. Hey, oh, listen, listen.
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Unc
Now.
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Ocho
Now, he. He ended the game with 75 yards, right?
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Unc
No, he had 116. But on. Before the. Before that final drive, he got 41 of the 116.
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Ocho
Right. So. So one of the things I do want to say before. Before we pile on Justin Field, I want to talk about some of the drop passes. AD Mitchell. Two big plays, big play. Two big plays in the first half. Before half, you got the haddles.
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Unc
You got especially that goal ball.
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Ocho
Yeah. Oh, man. Hey, you got to have that. Hey, it's perfect, though. Outside shoulders away from the defense.
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Unc
You can't ask for anything more than that, Ocho.
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Ocho
You got to have. That's perfect red line. You pull that in. Then the wheel route. Doubting up, you know, adjust yourself. Slow down a little bit. You know. Perfect. Perfect ball. Outside shoulder. DB has no way to make a play. Has no way to make a play. You got to have that. So those are. Those are passes that you, you got to help your quarterback out sometime. You got to help your quarterback, and that's why the stats look like. Look the way they look sometimes they drop pass.
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Unc
Yeah, he had. He had a couple of drops, but there was a couple oo. He had 80 and 80. Probably would have dropped it, but he had him on. He had him on the heel. Oh, Joe.
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Ocho
He had him on the pitch.
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Unc
Oh, Joe. That's a simple pitching catch.
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Ocho
Oh, he threw a wide. He threw a wide.
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Unc
You put that on him. Because here's the thing, the DB is probably retreating. You put that on him. Now I get to face you up. There's a chance I can make you miss. At least. At least I caught it at five at bare minimum, Ocho, I'm gonna get a first down. I might make you miss and get even more. I'm like Justin to start the game. Yeah, you can't, because what do we always say, Ocho, give me something. I just want to get my hand. I just want to touch the ball. Just let me touch it. You ain't got to give me nothing sophisticated. Just let me catch a hit, let me catch a stick, let me catch a shallow cross. I just want to touch the ball. You give it to me early. You got me late. Yeah, Justin, how, how on a, On a. On a five yard hitch route, you miss a guy that far outside.
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Ocho
And listen. And that goes for the quarterback, too most of the time. Some quarterbacks, they don't want to come out with anything. They want some short. They want a nice little check down to get themselves in a rhythm, you know, to get a feeling for the game and not, not really chase the game, but allow the game to come to them. And that's what you want. You want to slant, you want to hit. You want some. Want some, you know, short. But I think, I think right now, I'm not sure. With as bad as the jets are, everyone around Justin Fields has to be.
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Unc
Almost dead, but they don't have that.
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Ocho
They have to raise their level of play. They got to raise their level of play to catch up or to make sure they can overcome for Justin's mistakes or his lack of confidence. Right now. You have to. That's what you need. You need that kind of dog out there, and he didn't play tonight. I think Garrett Wilson is on IR right now, so he's going to miss the next, now three games after the night, and boy, they got the mustard up. They got the mustard up. You know, those that are there. John Meech, John Meechy. Made some plays. John Messi. I'm sorry, my apologize. Messi. Yeah, he made some plays tonight. Tight end, you know, little check down play, but that's, yeah, you gotta have.
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Unc
That catch, that tight end on the fourth down. You gotta hold that one. You got the first down and you getting laid because you taking so long to submit the ball to you. The guy's dropping and bring it in.
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Ocho
Yeah, yeah, he driving on. He knocked it down. But outside of that, man, listen, the jets, they, if they didn't play that.
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Unc
Bad, they didn't, they really just couldn't get off the field in that first half, Ocho. They couldn't get off the field. Yeah, I mean, they get them in third, they get them in third and four, third and five, they get a first down. They get them in third and 10, they get a first down. They just could not get off the field. And, And I'm like, okay, they rush three, they rush four, they bring pressure and they still didn't get there. I'm like, well, damn, how difficult, I mean, man, how difficult is it? And you, you're right. And I think a lot of times the drops, maybe that, that messes with, with, with Justin Fields confidence, because he's like, am I doing something? What am I doing wrong? Because he'll throw one terrible, and then he'll drop a dime, he'll throw two terrible, he'll throw another dime. He had, he had A.D. mitchell again on the go. He had Gonzalez in the ass with the ball. I thought he was playing pin to tail on the donkey.
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Ocho
I said.
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Unc
But damn, he, Ocho, he had him. He hit Gonzalez in the ass.
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Ocho
Yeah, he was beat.
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Unc
And that's the thing, when you get a guy beat down there, Ocho, you know, you're already struggling as an offense. You can't miss. And that's what I tweeted. I said, mitchell, you're not that good offensively to, oh, you're not that good of a team to overcome those kind of mistakes. That's a flat out drop. And they're not, you're saying, okay, you get a guy like Justin Fields and he's struggling, but they don't have the receivers, they don't have a Chase or a Jetta or one of these top flight receivers that could. Or a couple of them, they need more than one. They need a couple of, A couple of them that can elevate them. And I, I just, I, I just.
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Ocho
Yeah, it sucks, it sucks, it sucks. And listen, not, not only that, they, they're not playing well. They they let two of the best players on defense go. Obviously you got, you got, you got players for him. So you would hope those players that you got in the trade can step up and, and, and, and, and play the par. And Obviously it's, it's 80. It's 80's first week. This is his first game too, right? This is first game. Yeah.
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Unc
The first time he caught a pass, this ain't the first time he ran around.
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Ocho
I mean, I mean, you tell me.
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Unc
It'S football, you say no matter where you go, wherever you play.
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Ocho
Right, right, right, right, right, right. Like I'm not, listen, I'm not making no excuses for him. You have to, you have to make those plays. You have to. You got to.
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Unc
And with Justin Fields out. Excuse me, with Garrett Wilson out, you're supposed to be their best receiver because at the Colts, they had high expectations until you got into Shane Steichen's doghouse with that fumble. It was never the same after that. Now, maybe there was something going on, maybe that was the final straw that broke the Campbell's back, Ocho. But from that point on.
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Ocho
It wasn't the same. No, no, it wasn't the same.
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Unc
But I just don't know how you throw for 27 yards in a game. You throw for 45 yards in a game. You throw For 46 yards in a game, you throw for 54 yards in a game, and you throw for 116. And 41 of that came on the final drive. I just don't know how you, you move on and become. And become what people thought you were going to become when they took you as a top draft pick. I think you were 15 or 16, something like that. Ocho, I just don't see the consistency. I don't see. I don't see him. One, two, check it down. One, two, three. Out of bounds. One, two, gone. I don't see that. And you know, as a quarterback, the really good ones.
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Ocho
Yes.
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Unc
Back foot hit. Okay, I'm dropping back. I know the play, Ocho. I'm dropping back. Already done going through it. Okay, we've gone through it through the course of the week. Cover one, we go here. Cover two, we go there. Quarters, we go here. Cover five, we go there. Sky six, we already know. So when you back it up, the safety has already told you what it's due. Single high safety. Oh, I know. I'm going right now. Oh, he's covered. Let me go. Let me see where two is. Is two there? Okay, let me take this check down. Oh, yeah. See it seems like it's like he got a dial up service. He ain't got that 5G. They say they got something, they got 10G up in China. So saying you cut the phone up already going to what you're looking for?
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Ocho
Yeah, yeah, most definitely. I, I, I think the fact that also with the offensive line not, not playing as well as they should be, he's rushing everything a little bit. Not being able to go through his progression and, and understand, listen, pre snap, okay, I'm seeing what they doing. And once that ball snaps, you know, obviously you want, you want that, you want that head straight down the field. Not giving anything away and not having the time to be able to go through his read and in progression I think he speeds things up in hurries, throws, he rushes, throws to her to get the ball out his hands too.
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Unc
Yeah, I mean Ocho I'm looking at, against Buffalo, he averaged 2.5 yards of the temp. Against the Broncos, 2.6 yards per attempt. Against Carolina, 3.8 yards per attempt. Against Cleveland, 4.9 yards attempt. That's, that's not even a running back average is, is, is squat if he's doing that right. Imagine if you're a quarterback and that's what your yard for attempt is. That is horrible.
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Ocho
Yeah, yeah, it's bad. But also, you know what else it also comes down to? The weapons around you. It also comes down to what do you have, what is your supporting cast like? Now you take a Justin Fields here, hypothetically speaking, right? So you keep the same offense and you put a Jamar Chase or you put a Justin Jefferson, you put a T. Higgins or you put any of the top tier, top tier receivers on that team together, you know, A1 and A1 or A1 and A1 or A.
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Unc
Decent, A decent one, A1, B1, A2.
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Ocho
Yeah, hey, it looks completely different because they can overcome for all the woes that Justin Fields may be having, they can overcome all that. The small stuff you got Jamar Chase, crazy ass, could take a goddamn slant and a goddamn hitch. 80 yards, you got T. Higgins. Any ball you throw to him, which was considered for most receivers, 50, 50 HEL is 9010. Like small stuff like that. When you have players that, that, that can elevate their play to overcome for your, your shortcomings, it makes things easier, but they just don't have that. Therefore everybody else has to raise their level of play and damn near be perfect. But, and that, that's the issue. That's the issue they have.
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Unc
If you look at the guys that you just mentioned. They had their best seasons if you think about it. What do the guys do really well? Process information really, really quickly.
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Ocho
Oh yeah, go back and look at Joe very fast.
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Unc
Now go back and look at Joe Flacco. It doesn't even look like Chase is falling off because Joe Flacco back foot hit. I'm going to it cousins. Sam Darnold, you couldn't tell who was in there with Jenna because they process information quickly. You and that is the number one thing. How well do you download information and and how quickly can you disseminate it? I don't care. I don't care what type of arm you got. I don't care what type of leg you got. Can you hey, if I input Start.
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Ocho
I turned off news altogether.
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Unc
I hate to say it, but I.
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Unc
Ocho. How soon can you spit it back out?
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Ocho
Yeah. And. And the funny thing about it is not only being able to process it, not only being able to spit it out. But you know what makes it even easier? The you throwing to on the other.
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Unc
End of the ball. But I. Oh, Joe.
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Ocho
But if I. Much easier.
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Unc
But see, now you got me. Okay, I run a hitch route. Now you go. Got me. Well, do I need to slide or do I need to slide? Because I'm anticipating. Cause I don't know where it's going to be. I know normally I'm gonna get a hitch. I will get it in the framework of my body. Ocho. Because he's not gonna be on the pressure because it's 1, 2, 3, boom, balls out. So he's not gonna be up under pressure. So I'm thinking I'm gonna get the ball somewhere in here. Here, here. Oh, not out here.
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Ocho
Yeah, yeah.
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Unc
So it makes it difficult. It's. It's like sometimes when you dealing with a mobile quarterback, it's hard to adjust to them. Ocho. Because. Because I run my route and next thing I know, he way over the crowd screaming. I'm like, damn, what happened? He Way over there, I'm like, well, damn. So it's hard when your quarterback is inconsistent. I don't give a damn who the receiver is. You want some consistency at that position, but you want somebody that can digest information. The coach put it in and he spit it right back out in the form of getting the ball out of his hand. I hope I'm wrong, I pray I'm wrong. But I just don't know if he's ever going to be what many thought he would be. Especially when you look at the game that he had against. Who did he play against? Clemson. You look at that game that he had against Clemson and he was sensational.
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Ocho
Yeah.
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Unc
And. And, and I was like, okay, now playing with those guys that he had, Olave and Garrett Wilson and all those guys, we understand.
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Ocho
See, see.
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Unc
But you realize once you get to the NFL, the likelihood of you having five receivers that are five stars or, or be that type of guy, the likelihood is not very good. Yeah. Does he have a Chase? No. Does he have a Jetta? Does he have any of the top, top receivers?
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Ocho
No, not, not, not, not, not. What. What I will say now, what I will say he does have Garrett Wilson.
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Unc
Yes.
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Ocho
Now, Garrett Wilson was. Who had a phenomenal. Who had a phenomenal rookie year with lesser quarterbacks.
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Unc
If you, if you look at them. Oo. If you look at them, if you just put them on paper and you say, look at what was throwing to Garrett Wilson when he won Offensive Rookie of the Year and you look at what's throwing to Gary Wilson now, if you just look over play just eight, you're like, man, with Justin Fields, he about to go cra. And he played with him in college.
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Ocho
Yes, yes. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, listen, Garrett Wilson is a phenomenal talent. Nothing should taper off when you have a talent like that, it's so easy. When you look at what they're able to do with Devonte Adams and Puka Nakua. Hell. Jsn and obviously I don't think the jets offensive coordinator has that kind of creativity to put in you. And Justin, Justin Fields, to use Garrett Wilson in the right type of way to create those mismatches like the other team. You ain't got nobody to get in the ball. That's the way that this is run.
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Unc
I can give you all the nice ingredients I want, but if you can't cook, what the hell have I done? I spent a whole lot of money on great food, great ingredients, ingredients. And I know you can't make a dish with. Comes down to it. Ocho, you really good. Don't go look at chop in the Iron Chef. And they get these. They get these people, okay, I'm gonna give you chocolate. I'm gonna give you onions. I'm gonna give you stone crabs. And I'm like, how did you even think of this?
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Ocho
Yes.
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Unc
But you give somebody, you can give them, oh, okay. I'm gonna give you steak. I'm gonna give you this, I'm gonna give you that. And you like, what up? What I'm supposed to make? I, I just. I. I hope I'm wrong chat. I really do. But I just, I. I just. And I've seen him and I've watched him. Now, this man has gone through three head coaches and probably four offensive coordinators. Yeah, and I'm not. And, and, and, and, and. And sometimes you get lucky and you get to. You get a Sean McVeigh or you get a Kyle Shanahan, but I just don't. I just don't know it. Because at the end of the day, the quarterback position is all about processing information and spitting it back out. That's what it comes down to. It is. I mean, I don't care how good how big your arm is. I don't care how fast your legs are. Can you process it, Ocho? Because that's a whole different ball game. Because not only must you process it, Ocho, you gotta realize they got five on most occasions, they got four guys that's really trying to tear your damn head off. So you gotta, like, you in fear for your life, but also, you gotta calm yourself down and says, you know what? Yeah, one, two, check down. One, two, throw it out of bounds. One, two, F. That. I'm out.
- [27:37]
Ocho
Yeah, it's all. It's all about that clock.
- [27:41]
Unc
Maybe, maybe, maybe put him in. Maybe put him in. Hurry up. The game. Because it seems like, you know, when he's in. Hurry up, he's better.
- [27:49]
Ocho
Yeah, yeah.
- [27:52]
Unc
And then fumble.
- [27:55]
Ocho
Yeah, I mean, listen, that's on the center, too. That's on the center. Come on. That's the NFL. Now put the snap at the mid.
- [28:02]
Unc
Center.
- [28:03]
Ocho
It should be. The snap should come in the same area every single time you go through that 10 weeks. I mean, like, come on now. Come on, center. Don't. Don't do that. Don't do that a little, man. The ball hit it. The ball hit his ankles.
- [28:19]
Unc
But so you know what? It's just that, you know, take that. Take that. Take that away. They got three points out there. Give the defense credit, because I thought the defense gave up one touchdown and two field goals in the second half. Yeah, they did force a three and out on the, on the first possession of the second half, which is kudos. You know, you see, I think the jets won the toss and they took the ball. They drove the ball right down the field. Something they don't normally, don't do. It normally ends in a punt or, or turnover. And they drove the ball, I think they had the ball like 14 plays and drove the ball and punched it in the end zone. But I, I just, Lord, I hope I'm wrong, but I just, I just, I just don't see where he's ever going to be more than what he is. I don't think he's ever going to be turned into what. And, and that's, and that's okay because everybody ain't going to be, or Lamar Jackson. Everybody's not going to be Josh Allen or Patrick Mahone. But I mean, I, I think if the jets could be okay if he was just like middle of the road. You just can't be, you can't be the bottom tier. I'm not saying you got to be top tier, but I mean if we got that kind of, if we got. Chad, if you can see this, if we got this much space, can you be somewhere in here and not be.
- [29:29]
Ocho
Down here in the middle? Right?
- [29:32]
Unc
Can we get that Ocho.
- [29:35]
Ocho
You know it all. You know what else it all comes down to now?
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Ocho
I turned off news altogether.
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Unc
I hate to say it, but I.
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- [32:45]
Ocho
Not only all the intangibles and all the. All the nuances that we're talking about, but unless you got confidence on, ain't nothing happening. You got to be able to play with confidence. You have to be able to play with confidence in, in everything that you do. And one of the most important positions. Goddamn quarterback.
- [33:04]
Unc
It's the most important.
- [33:06]
Ocho
The mo. The most.
- [33:07]
Unc
Because if you don't believe your. Your, your body language.
- [33:12]
Ocho
Yeah.
- [33:12]
Unc
Your aura is going to say, if you don't believe. I don't believe either. I mean if, if you don't trust your skill, why you want me? That's why I used to get in the car. Ocho, that joke. Somebody button their seat belt, fasten their seat belt. Hell, I fasten mine. You know something I don't? So you can build you. I've been around quarterbacks, when they walk into the huddle, you know, they know the hell they do it. They give you the confidence that, you know, what the hell you doing.
- [33:43]
Ocho
Exactly, exactly, exactly. Man, I, I, I hope, I hope they get it together. I'm not sure what direction they're going to go in, but the way they've started so far and letting Sauce go and let a rebuild go. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, I, I did. Wait, listen. But who you gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna start over with a quarter?
- [34:03]
Unc
Yeah, I believe so.
- [34:04]
Ocho
You're gonna start with a new quarterback. You're gonna draft another one. You're gonna draft.
- [34:07]
Unc
I believe so. Or. I mean, I don't know if there's any, Any quarterbacks that's going to become available. Yeah, probably. Sam Donald didn't want any parts of New York again, which I wouldn't blame him, you know, but look, I mean, every day seemed like I hear a story about somebody that played there having an interaction with the owner, and it's never positive and it's never good.
- [34:30]
Ocho
Right? Yeah.
- [34:32]
Unc
And with that situation, I hope AG gets at least three years, because it's not like you had had a powerful roster to begin with, and now you stripped him of his two best defensive players. So he got to get at least two years. And without a quarterback, you can give him five years, and he's still not gonna get it done because you're not. It's hard. It's damn near impossible. And I know. Well, y' all did it in 22,000 with the ray, with Trent Dilfer. They don't allow you to play football like that.
- [35:03]
Ocho
No, absolutely.
- [35:04]
Unc
You don't play football like that anymore. The rules are different. So. No, ain't. There's nobody winning another super bowl like we won it or like Tampa won it in 02. You're not, because they won't allow you to play defense like that. Your quarterback is going to have to stand in the pocket and he's going to have to make plays throwing the effing football. Yeah, he's going to be able to use his legs to get out of harm's way some, but he's gonna have to be able to throw the football. The days of, oh, we got a killer defense and we're gonna run the ball. No, you're not.
- [35:34]
Ocho
No, no, you're not, you're not, you're not gonna, you're not gonna win very many games like that. Because once the team gets ahead on you, once the team gets ahead of you, 10, 14 points and all, can't.
- [35:45]
Unc
Run your way back into a game.
- [35:47]
Ocho
Absolutely.
- [35:47]
Unc
Let me ask you this, Ocho. Do you like Kyler Murray? Because I, I believe there's, I believe there's gonna be a separation of church and state in, in Arizona.
- [35:56]
Ocho
Huh? Yeah, most definitely. Because that. I think Kyler Murray is healthy. I think, me personally, I think he's healthy. But they're continuing to want to go with Jacoby Brissette based on how he look and how the offense move with him. You know, the, the few weeks he's been in, if they do part ways with him, I'm sure Kyler Murray will be somewhere else next year for sure. How, how would it look over in New York? I'm not sure. I'm not sure if, if it's a fit. It all depends on ag. Obviously outside of ag, you, you got to go to the higher powers and see if that's something that they, they want to look into or do you want to go into the draft? Now, when you, when you think about some of the quarterbacks coming into the draft, you know, this year, is there a franchise altering quarterback that can come in there and, and change a franchise? I, I haven't seen anything like that this year. They have, there have been some that have played good, but nothing that just blows you out the water. Like, you know what that guy, we got to have him.
- [36:50]
Unc
I agree.
- [36:51]
Ocho
I haven't seen, I haven't seen.
- [36:52]
Unc
I haven't seen it either. So we'll see how this plays out. The Pittsburgh Steelers stay the top the AFC north thanks to a 3412 victory. Although Aaron Rodgers left the game, what many believe to be a crack at his a break in his wrist. Mason Rudolph came in, finished 12:16,127 of the touchdown. He relieved Aaron Rodgers who was not a 15. 116 and a touchdown. They won 34 to 12. But that was not the story of the game. Something happened late in the ball game. Jaylen Ramsey was ejected for punching T. Not T. Higgins. Jamar Chase in the face. They asked Chase. Excuse me. They asked Jaylen Ramsey what happened? Huh? Okay, we got Bokeh. Let's take a listen to what, what Ramsey said after the game. He spilled me. So it's up. I don't give a. About football after that, respectfully. Okay, here's what Chase said. Walk Us through what happened with Jim.
- [38:06]
Ocho
Exchanging words.
- [38:09]
Unc
He was saying that you spit on him.
- [38:10]
Ocho
Did you spit on him? I never. I ain't never opened my mouth to that guy. What do you. So what.
- [38:16]
Unc
What do you think prompted the reaction from. Well, you don't like some of the words I told him. We've been going back and forth the.
- [38:24]
Ocho
Whole time, so I'm sure some. Some got under his skin.
- [38:29]
Unc
Yeah, Ocho, all good here. Here, we got. We got. We got Austin Brisket. Brisky. Brisky. Austin brisky fox 19. He got it all on tape. Let's take a look at this. Oh, That's your guy. I've met him a few times. I like Chase. He's the best receiver in football. But he spit on Jalen Ramsey. And, you know, and everybody knows, I've been abundantly clear where I am. The most disrespectful thing you can do. Yeah, we know the N word. We know the. The condo, the. The. The. The connotations and what it summons up. But my grand. My. Well, my grandfather used to always say, she said, boy, you don't spit on. If you. You telling me I'm the ground. That is the lowest thing you can do. Ocho, he spit on that man, and he lied. And Jalen Ramsey said. Jalen Ramsey say he spit on me. So it's up after that. After that point. Take it away.
- [39:41]
Ocho
I mean, Uno, y' all know how I feel about uno, know how I feel about Jamar. And, you know, I'm really critical of players very rarely. It takes a lot for me to be critical of someone, but this is one of those situations where I got to let Chase know, boy, you're dead wrong. As much as I love you, you can't do that. You can't do that. You can be angry, you can be mad. You can say what you want to say to a player on the field, but you can't spit on nobody, bro. Young Bull, you can't spit on nobody. Obviously, you know, cooler heads will prevail, but in those situations like that, when you're angry, I know you're frustrated. The game might not be going your way. You're not getting the ball the way you want to get the ball. You know how these division games go. Situations like this happen all the time, especially when it's Bengals, Steelers. It's just like this. It's tight. It's tight. You get angry, you get frustrated, but you can't. You can't. You just. You just can't. You know, as much as I Love you. I'm disappointed, obviously, in your actions. I'm gonna talk to you. I haven't had the chance today. You know, I didn't want to bother you, but if you look back, you think about it, you probably won't be in this situation again. Knowing the NFL and the way they discipline, they'll probably suspend you for a game, and, you know, it'll probably never happen again. It'll probably never happen again. But this is something you just can't do, young bull. You. You. You can't. You can't do this. You can't.
- [41:10]
Unc
Just own it. Just say, you know my emotions. Hey, Jaylen, I'm sorry my emotions got the best of me. When emotions are high, logic is low. Ram. I'm sorry I let my emotions get the best of me, Y'. All, I was wrong. I was dead ass wrong for what I did. It's hard to do something now publicly, Ocho, and nobody sees it because everybody.
- [41:34]
Ocho
Can see cameras everywhere, huh?
- [41:37]
Unc
Because, Ocho, if they're having a conversation and you know, hey, sometimes when I get excited, I have to cut, man, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to spit. We've all done that. We get excited, we start talking, and we accidentally, Accidentally spray them. But that was no spray, Ocho. That was not no spray. That was not a spray. And he did it. And he lied to reporters and he said, I ain't. I ain't open my mouth. You did, Chase. You wrong, bro. You wrong. And I know that's not what you did. I'm not going to define you by that, but you did that. I don't believe in Ocho. That.
- [42:14]
Ocho
That.
- [42:14]
Unc
That the worst thing that a person done. That is that. That's who he. That who. Now, obviously we got repeat offenders, but there's nothing in his history, nothing in his background that would suggest this is not. He is. So I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt. Now, the NFL, they should sit. They gotta sit you down. They've got to sit you down for a game. That's the least they can do. Jalen Ramsey, you're gonna get fined a little fine, but they're not gonna suspend you because you. Because your suspension was. You got kicked out of the game. That was your. That was your punishment. And you're gonna get fined. You probably get fined, I don't know, 12,000, 25,000, something like that. But Chase, you're gonna get suspended, and I don't know why, Chase. I don't know, Ocho. I've. And I'VE been mad, Ocho, I know you've been mad at people. I've been mad at people. I could, but to spit on somebody. Do you know how disrespectful, how degrading that is as a black man? You. Chase, you know the history of. In Louisiana, in the south, that's what they used to do to your grandpa, your great grandpa, your great grandma.
- [43:22]
Ocho
Yeah.
- [43:24]
Unc
When they was trying to integrate the schools. Come on, Chase. We gotta be better than that. We can't do that to each other. I get it. Yeah, we get upset. Yeah, we get angry. But come on, we gotta do better than that when it comes to each other for us. I might disagree with something you said. I might not like what you said. And like I said, a. But I can't. I cannot do that. Because what happens is, Ocho, if you spit on somebody, whatever that individual does to you after that, I'm good with. Yeah, if they. Whatever. Whatever. If you spit on somebody. And that goes for family member or anybody. If you spit on somebody, whatever that person does to you after that. Oh, well, you're right. Because, Ocho, the thing is, you get to control your actions. You don't get to control the consequences that comes from your actions.
- [44:23]
Ocho
You're right. You're right.
- [44:25]
Unc
I'm just. I'm just disappointed because he would have been the last person I would have thought that would do something like this. Like I said, I've been around him half a time. Not like you, Ojo. I don't feel him like you. But. But he was all. You know, guys, normally when they see me, they respect for, hey, Unc, what's going on? How you doing? Blah, blah, blah. But, man, damn.
- [44:44]
Ocho
I mean, and then.
- [44:45]
Unc
And I want. And I want. And I wanted to believe, because, like I said, I've been around Ram a little bit, but. And he's not. Like I said, the little bit of time I'd been around him, and when I seen him, you know, we DMed a couple of times, he don't strike.
- [44:57]
Ocho
You gotta just make. Honestly, you gotta think. You gotta think. These boys, especially when it come to Jalen, when it come to uno, you know, I'm around these fellas consistently all the time. You know, whether. Whether it's working out, whether it's hanging out, whether it's eating. I hang out. I hang out with Jalen when he down. When he was down here in Miami. And obviously, you know, my. My. My relationship with Chase, you know, since he got drafted, now, that's. That's something even Even, even, even, even more close. And none of these individuals are like that. But emotions get the best of us sometimes. Some. Sometimes we make mistakes. And I've been in situations where emotions have got the best of me and I've done things that are totally out of my character. It's totally uncharacteristic of who I am and what I represent and everything that I stand for. And I think this is one of those situations for Chase. This is something that happened where obviously logic was low because emotions were high. I was upset, I'm frustrated, the game's not going well. Then they got them trash talking to me. We going back and forth, and it just, it got the best of them. And I'm really not the one that's always that. That is in positions to be the voice of reason. But I'm probably one of the few people outside of family members that Uno will listen to. He will listen to and actually listen and take heed to what I'm saying. Because I've been in situations where not to this magnitude. We're not thinking. We're not thinking straight. You know, it can cost you, you know, now this is gonna cost em. It's not gonna cost him, you know, as much as it did for me for being in a situation where my logic was low as hell. I mean, it was super low and it cost me a lot. Now, this is just on a small scale still in a very disrespectful manner.
- [46:40]
Unc
But that's why you're the perfect person to speak on this, because you've been in a similar situation where emotion was high and logic was low. And sometimes when a situation like that, we let our emotion get the best of us and. And that's not who we are. But in that moment, just for a second, you threw caution to the wind. We've all been there. And my thing is, Chase, you didn't have to lie. All we would. Everybody's going to look at you a certain way, but you say, you know what? All you had to do is say, ram, I'm sorry. You should have went. You. Hey, you should have made peace with that, man. Hey, y' all get me Ram's number. I'mma call him. I want to call him and tell him as a man. I said, bro, I'm going to tell the world that I did. I was wrong. I was dead ass. But I wanted to tell you first, man to man, ram, I'm sorry, bro. That ain't me, bro. You know me. That ain't me. We're. We're both competitors. You're fighting your ass off of your team. I'm fighting my ass off of my team. And my emotions got the best of me. Ram, I'm sorry, bro. Man, I. I really hope you forgive me. Because I don't want your family to. I don't want your family to look at me in that light, and I don't want my family to look at me in that light, to know that I did something like that. Cause I know my family would be very disappointing in me. So I'm coming to you as a man. But I'm gonna tell the world I did what I did. I did it. And I want to apologize to you as a man. I'd have got him in the tunnel. I'd have went to the tunnel. I said, bro, hey, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. Look, I'm gonna do my press conference, but I'm gonna find Ram and say I'm sorry. I would have, and I think he will. And, hey, that's between him and Ram. I don't have to know about everybody talking about, well, he did it, but, nah, I'm good. Just apologize to the man and we're gonna keep on moving. But just. No man did. Ocho, it ain't like when you and I first got in the league. They got a couple of cameras, bro. They catching everything. They catch everything. And that's why you see guys cover their mouth when they talk to one another, Ocho. Because guess what? People tried to read lips. Y' all try to read exactly what Ocho and I talking about, man. It seemed like he said, remember when Jaylen Brown was on the sideline and he and his girl and they was talking about Bronnie?
- [48:46]
Ocho
Oh, yeah, yeah. On the side. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, they did read his lips. That's right. That's right. I remember that. I remember that.
- [48:52]
Unc
Exactly, exactly. Exactly. And.
- [48:57]
Ocho
We gonna get this situation rectified, though. We gonna get. We gonna get it rectified.
- [49:00]
Unc
I know. I know.
- [49:00]
Ocho
I.
- [49:01]
Unc
Look, but let me ask you a question, Ojo. The league got to step in because we. And it happened. I mean, but to see. I mean, what. I think this is the second or the third time that this has happened this year.
- [49:14]
Ocho
Yeah. We had with Jalen Carter.
- [49:16]
Unc
Week one Carter against a dak. I think there was another situation. I'm not sure it was college. It was college, Ojo.
- [49:24]
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But listen, the league's gonna step in. They're going to obviously discipline them. It probably. Probably a one game suspension. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't call. I didn't call UNO tonight. I didn't call him tonight. He got enough to deal with as it is. You know, coming off a loss, I left. I allowed 24 hours to go by. So tomorrow. You know, I got to fly to New York tomorrow. So when I fly to New York, I'm gonna take that time out. Being that this is. This is off day. I'm sure they're probably going to watch film, and I'm gonna catch up later on in the evening and. And just talk to him. Just talk to him a little bit about. No. Being able to use logic even in situations when you're not in your right state of mind, because at times, it can cost you. And I'm the perfect example of not using your mind in the right state of mind. And it's not gonna cost you big this time, but it cost me my whole career. So using that example with him in a small situation which was extremely disrespectful would be perfect, because I'm a prime example.
- [50:24]
Unc
Yep. Ocho, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I told you before, we.
- [50:30]
Ocho
We. We going. We going off the. The bang game already.
- [50:35]
Unc
What you want to talk about? Oh, give it a big but. Yeah, listen, I don't know what you want.
- [50:38]
Ocho
Listen, brother, Darnell Washington the. The way. Hey, hey, uncle, he pissed me off, man. He supposed. Hey, you supposed to be playing with a goddamn Knicks or something?
- [50:52]
Unc
No, actually, he's supposed to have a 70 number on. He's supposed to be an offensive tackle. Hey, hey, A joker six, seven. Because guess what? He got a job. Yes. You see how he move?
- [51:03]
Ocho
Disrespectful. I'm like, why are you pushing on people like that? Why are you at tight end? Hey, hey, hey, hey. Darnell watching it. Boy, you was balling out tonight. All Steeler fans, for those of you that in the chat, you know how I feel about you. I love you. I've always been respectful and shown sportsmanship, and I've shown grace. Whether he won or whether we lost, I was always respectful. But Darnell Washington, what you did to my teammates, I had to avenge them. So whenever I see you in public in the off season, just know we gonna squabble, we gonna square up, and we gonna fight. But, boy, you had a hell of a game. Boy, you had a hell of a game. Salute to y', all. Steeler fan. Congratulations on your win today. I love y'. All. Y' all got it. I hope Aaron Rodgers is okay. If he's not okay, I think it's his non throwing hand. I think something in his wrist is non throwing hand that might be broke. Aaron Rodgers, do me a small favor. Put you a hard cast on there. Put your hard cast on there and let's play ball next week now. Let's play ball next week. We could play with that. Whether it's a small break, a little break, or.
- [52:06]
Unc
Or. I don't know. Why you talking about our team? Why you talking about our team?
- [52:10]
Ocho
You're not even a Steeler.
- [52:12]
Unc
Well, I'm. I'm saying that's not.
- [52:14]
Ocho
I mean, they're in the AFC north, so I. I feel compelled to be able to.
- [52:17]
Unc
So are the Ravens my team?
- [52:19]
Ocho
Hold on. Listen. I feel compelled to support them because my team is out right now. That's all.
- [52:26]
Unc
Oh, your team told you that.
- [52:28]
Ocho
Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Because they all. Don't do that. Because if we won the day, if we had won the game today, we would have had a chance.
- [52:37]
Unc
But I told you you weren't gonna win. I told you you gonna lose your legs. I told you. How many games, Chad? How many times? How many times did y' all hear me tell him? Ocho, Y' all about to lose out. And although the window is open, Joe Burrow is back at practice a little ahead of schedule. 21 day. The 21 day window is open. He ain't coming back. Come back for what?
- [52:55]
Ocho
It's all good. It's all good. It's all good. It's all good.
- [53:06]
Unc
In a battle of seven, would give the winner sole possession of first place in the NFC West. Sam Darnold through 1, 2, 3, 4 ints, no touchdown passes, and Seattle lost 2119 to the Rams. Darnold delivered his worst performance of the season. The Seahawks enter Week 11, NFL's third highest scoring team despite 16 turnovers, including 10 by Darnell, which is tied for the second most. But they couldn't survive four more giveaways today. Yo, have you lost any faith, Abs? Sam Garner was 29 of 44, 279, 0 touchdowns, 4 ints.
- [53:50]
Ocho
Absolutely not. No. No faith at all. Listen, the fact that he do 4. 4. 4 ints. They only lost 21. Wait, they only lost what? 21? 21 19. Huh?
- [53:58]
Unc
21.
- [53:58]
Ocho
They only lost 21 19. Okay, Sam. Don, you had a bad day. You had a bad day. You've been playing great. You've been playing great all season long. You know, quarterbacks won't have games like this. Quarterbacks are going to have games like this. And this is your one. Let's get it out our system now. Let's get it out of our system now, you know, and going forward, let's get back to the regularly scheduled program on how we've been flowing offensively. Very smooth. We've been running the ball through the air. We've been great. Yeah, him and. Him and Jackson had another good day today. I think in Jigwe had what, nine for 106?
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Unc
Yeah, yep.
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Ocho
Nine for 105. You know, you look good in that area. And I think if you. If you.
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Unc
He crazy, man. He just going.
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Ocho
He going stupid crazy.
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Unc
Dude. Gonna get 2000.
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Ocho
He will. He probably.
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Unc
He had 12. He had. Hold on. They got seven games to go. He's at 1200. Over 1200 now. Yeah.
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Ocho
And the funny thing about it.
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Unc
How many yards. How many yards does JSN have?
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Ocho
He hit the thousand yard mark, I think last week. A week before last.
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Unc
Oh, yeah, yeah. He over there, he got 1146. So he had.
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Ocho
He needs.
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Unc
He needs. So he's. And 70. 72 or 70, 72 catches. Okay. So he's average of seven catches a game.
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Ocho
And he gonna have about two or three games. He go crazy, though. So he definitely. He.
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Unc
The game last week when they blowing everybody out and he came out, that was a game. He need games like where they're close and they're going back and forth. So that way he gonna be in there and he'll get a. He'll get a 10, 12, 13, 14 catch game. 185, 200. Because you got to have. You need. You need one game. Oo, where you get two.
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Ocho
Yeah.
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Unc
215. 220.
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Ocho
Yeah.
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Unc
Cause I think that was the year that Megatron. Was that the year that Megatron broke that record when he had that 329 against Cowboys. Remember he had the 329 against the Cowboys that day.
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Ocho
Boy.
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Unc
And then he needed 329. He needed 8 yards. No, he needed 10 yards. 11 yards. Yeah, yeah. To break flip. Cause flip got. I think. Well, flip got 336.
- [56:18]
Ocho
Yeah. Flipping Anderson. Yep. 336. That's the record.
- [56:23]
Unc
So I was like, damn, he gonna get there. He gonna get the rest.
- [56:25]
Ocho
A lot of yards.
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Unc
Went crazy on the face on that Sunday night.
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Ocho
Hey, that's a lot of yards, man. Shoot, Julio.
- [56:33]
Unc
I play. Actually, I played.
- [56:34]
Ocho
Remember Julio?
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Unc
For a while he came.
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Ocho
Julio had. Julio had. Against the Carolina panthers. He had 300.
- [56:41]
Unc
That's crazy flip Raiders. Yeah.
- [56:44]
Ocho
Oh, that's crazy.
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Unc
Flip. Flip only came Flip came out now in 80 and 88. Flip came out in 88. He came out my brother. He came out my brother. Oh, because it was Tim. My brother. Mike Irvin, Aaron Cox, Anthony Miller, Flipper Anderson. Pharaoh Lemons was a tight end drafted. Keith Jackson o' Nelly from Oklahoma was a tight end that was drafted. Yeah, he came up my brother's second round pick. Yeah. Aaron Cox with the. Aaron Cox with the first round pick. But look, Matthew Stafford again, two touchdowns, no interceptions, clean game. Now he has how many touchdowns does Aaron 27th. Like 25. He like 25?
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Ocho
27. 27. 2. Now I think 27 should be. Ask Ash if I'm right.
- [57:49]
Unc
27.
- [57:50]
Ocho
Yeah. 27, two. Yeah.
- [57:52]
Unc
He gonna win the MVP?
- [57:53]
Ocho
Yeah, damn. Unless Jonathan Taylor come out and have two.
- [57:58]
Unc
Let's. Jonathan Taylor go ahead crazy. And he still can. Cause he's a threat to get 200. Hey, would I be surprised if he got 200, had two, two, two, two more 200 yard games? No. 180. 190. No.
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Ocho
Stafford ever won MVP before? No. Huh? Okay.
- [58:18]
Unc
Never.
- [58:19]
Ocho
Yeah, they, they.
- [58:20]
Unc
Hey, listen, he finished.
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Ocho
They gonna get to him.
- [58:22]
Unc
I think he just said he finished. He got one vote. He finished eighth was the best. He's finished.
- [58:26]
Ocho
And you know what's funny? But remember Stafford with that was hurt all training camp, huh?
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Unc
Is back. Yeah. Didn't he sign a deal this off season? Then he got to sign a three year deal for like 120 something.
- [58:45]
Ocho
Hey, I, I think, I think he preserved. I think he preserved that arm from training camp.
- [58:50]
Unc
No, he could play. I mean he, he's a great guy. Having met the guy, his wife, 2 year 84. So 42 mil, that's good money. Give me a tackle another year after I win the MVP. Tackle another year, 80 guaranteed. But they doing it, man. Look, hey, the Rams were good, but I remember having this conversation. I said, ocho, and we're gonna talk about the packers here in a second. But I was like, are we sure? Are we sure? Even with Micah, the Packers are better than the Rams. Are we sure they're better than the Eagles?
- [59:33]
Ocho
And, and I, I was one that stood on the table for the packers that they are better or just as good. If Jordan Love is playing football the right way, if he's playing the quarterback position the way I know we can play it, if he's not, then it's looking, it's looking shady. It's looking ugly. But if he Plays the way I know he can play. To me, it's damn near even.
- [60:02]
Unc
The packers pulled off at 20, pulled out a 20, 20, 27, 20 win over the Giants. Jordan Love overcome his shoulder injury. Somebody forgot to tell him he's not Derrick Henry. Shouldn't be. But anyway, after scoring just 20 points combined in their previous two games, losses against the Panthers and the Eagles, 16, 13, loss to the Panthers, 10, 7, loss to the Eagles. The Panthers hit their Magic Number of 27. They've scored exactly 27 points, not a point more, not a point less. And five of their six wins this season to improve to six, three and one. Jordan Love, 13 to 24, 174, two touchdowns. They didn't run the ball. Romeo, Romeo, wherefore thought are thy hands, Romeo? Christian Watson came up big today, had a big time catch, a big time tough catch. That was really the difference in the ball game. And then Michael Parsons Coke closed it out with a strip sack. That ended it. He ended up having a sack and a half. A lot of people are gonna say James threw interception. That's on Jalen Hyatt.
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Ocho
I don't know.
- [61:13]
Unc
You cannot stop.
- [61:14]
Ocho
He stopped yet.
- [61:16]
Unc
Ocho, if you got an outbreak around, I don't give a damn if the corner is outside of you. You can't pull up because the corner is out there. Because the quarterback is throwing it on anticipation. He don't know that you going to pull up, so he's throwing it where he anticipates you to be.
- [61:33]
Ocho
You can't do that. You can't do that.
- [61:35]
Unc
Oh, my goodness. This is why, Chad. Now y' all see why I can't coach.
- [61:39]
Ocho
Hey, that's. That's a teaching lesson. That's why you should be coaching.
- [61:43]
Unc
Because I ain't got to teach you that. You know that. You can't pull up on a damn route.
- [61:47]
Ocho
You. You got to know that. You can't. You can't allow the body or the person there to deter you from getting to your position. If anything, if you got the corner route and he's already sitting out there, you want to beat him to the punch, beat him to the position. Put your body. Put your body in between the ball and him. If. If he knocks. If.
- [62:04]
Unc
Or be there to break him.
- [62:05]
Ocho
Either if he knocks it down or you make a play on it one or the other. But you can't. You can't pull up.
- [62:10]
Unc
Guess what? And when I knock it down, guess what I'm gonna do, Ocho? Yeah. Straight out. Yeah.
- [62:18]
Ocho
Either way, you got to give Yourself a chance in that, in that situation. You got to get, you got to give your quarterback a chance. You got to help your quarterback out there.
- [62:29]
Unc
Oh my goodness, these guys bro. I see so many guys all the time ojo the guys running, the guys running an in breaking route where the guys inside, he pull up like the quarterbacks go like oh he gonna pull up cuz the guy said no, you.
- [62:40]
Ocho
Gotta go, you gotta go get it collid him.
- [62:42]
Unc
You gotta break that up because if you don't it's gonna be a pick. Which it was. I'm like Jord, have mercy. I mean listen James, what was jamus today? Jamus was 19 or 29, 201, one touchdown. He was sacked twice. Tracy ran hard in the absence of scatter boo. 19 carries, 88 yards. Singletary had 16 for 44, 38 rush attempts, 142 yards. Interim head coach Mike Kafka claimed close but was unable to get a win. Major Love was 13 of 24, 174, two touchdowns. Josh Jacobs was injured in this game and did not return. So that's the injury that we're probably going to need to pay attention to and, and to see how that, how serious that injury is. Bears beat the Vikings 1917 with a game ending field goal set up by Devin. Devin Duvernay, a 56 yard kickoff return. J.J. mcCarthy. Inaccuracy dooms the Viking. McCarthy completed 16 to 32 passes for 150 yards, a touchdown. But he had two interceptions. Most of his past attempts were affected by pressure. The Bears blitzed on fewer than 40% of the snaps and the four man rush only reached JJ 3 of 19 snapshots. JJ McCarthy 16 of 32, 150 as I mentioned. What touchdowns, two interceptions. He wasn't sacked, but he did not good. Jefferson had five catches, 61 yards. Hawkinson was 3 for 39. Addison was 2 for 20. Naylor 1 to 16. But he did catch a touchdown. They didn't run the ball. Chicago says you know what we're gonna see if you could do they repay return the favor. Remember the first game, uh, it was McCarthy that game winning drive that ended up beating the Bears. Kayla Williams is getting more and more comfortable. He had 16 to 32, 193. He didn't throw a touchdown, he didn't have an interception. He had a, had a fumble but it was recovered. Uh, they ran the ball 39 times for a buck 40. Nothing outstanding but man he hard to get. Look they, they got two sacks on him. They probably should have had him about five or six times. How he gets predicament sometimes.
- [64:58]
Ocho
Hey, listen, one of the few quarterbacks in NFL that can extend plays, he can play off script, you know, and obviously when a place called, he's one of those. When the play breaks down, he can make something out of nothing. He can make something out of, out of nothing. And you add, you add that talent that he already has, you know, the escapability, the ability to extend plays with the creativity of Ben Johnson isn't. It's. It's a. It's a. It's a match made in heaven. There's a reason why, yeah, they are where they are. There's a reason why their record looks like it looks. And I understood what would happen when you get up, when you get a head coach like Ben Johnson and you put him with a talent like Caleb Williams, there's a reason why they're having success this year. He's. He's done very well not turning the ball over. He's not turnover prone as opposed to how he was last year. And they, they playing well.
- [65:49]
Unc
Ocho, if I'm not mistaken, the Bears are in first place. Yeah.
- [65:53]
Ocho
How you know?
- [65:56]
Unc
Cause the cause. The Lions lost tonight. The Lions are 6 and 4. They're 7 and 3.
- [66:00]
Ocho
What did I tell you? Who are the two teams I told you to watch out for before the season started when I talked to you in August? The Bears and the Panthers. I told you. I'm telling you. I know what I'm talking about when it comes to this game of football, I know what I'm talking about.
- [66:15]
Unc
Brock Purdy. We go. We're gonna go to the 49. Brock Purdy throw three touchdowns in his return from a tow injury as the 49ers cruise 41, 22 over the sloppy cards. Purdy completed 19 or 26 passes for just 200 yards. But Christian McCaffrey extended his NFL record with his 17th career game. At least one running touchdown and a catching and a receiving touchdown. The Cardinals were called for A franchise record 17 penalties, which was almost was the most for any team in an NFL season. This season they had 11 penalties in the first half, which was tied for the most before halftime for any team over the last 20 years. Jacobe Brissette started his fifth game oo. He was 47 of 57. That's 452, two touchdowns. But he did have two interceptions. They didn't run the ball. They couldn't. He had two receivers. Wilson, 15 catches, 85 yards. McBride 10, 115, Dortch 6 for 66. So he was throwing it all over the place, but unfortunately, those two turnovers undid it. Brock Pie, 19 of 26, 200 yards, three touchdowns. McAffrey had 13 carries, 81 yards, two touchdowns. Brian Robinson Jr. Had 8 for 24. Greg George, six catches, 67 yards, two touchdowns. Juwan Jennings, 4 for 54. Kristen Christian McCaffrey, 5 for 40 and a touchdown. Don't look, but the 49ers are 7 and 4. After dealing with all the injuries that they've had, Kyle still has them, right?
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Ocho
The funny thing about it is everybody's getting healthy at the right time. Everybody getting healthy at the right time, and they gonna hit their stride at the right time. We going into. We going to the. We going into the. In December, huh? Coming up. Huh? Wait, we in November, aren't we?
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Unc
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
- [68:16]
Ocho
Perfect timing. Perfect timing.
- [68:18]
Unc
Ocho. Jacob Brissette started his fifth game. He completed 47.57.
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Ocho
That's a record, huh?
- [68:25]
Unc
2. The 47 completions are the most completions in an NFL game in regulation.
- [68:33]
Ocho
That boy. Hey, he dealing that thing.
- [68:34]
Unc
Boy, he dealing.
- [68:36]
Ocho
He dealing. It didn't come out. It didn't come with a win. But one thing about Jacoby, he could let. He could sling that thing.
- [68:45]
Unc
The Eagles are the number one seed, eight and two. The Rams number two seed, eight and two. Chicago bears the number three seed, seven and three. Tampa would round out division winners at six and four. And then you have the Seahawks at seven and three to fifth seed Green Bay at six, three and one. The sixth seed. The 49ers are seven and four, the seventh seed. Right now, Detroit would be on the outside looking in, as would the Panthers, Vikings, Cowboys, Arizona and Atlanta Commanders and the Saints. So right now, the Detroit lions are the eighth seed.
- [69:21]
Ocho
Geez. Geez.
- [69:25]
Unc
But the 49ers are getting healthy. Ocho at the right, right, right time. Sa.
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