BEST OF NFL Week 12 Part 1: Malik Nabers DISSES entire Giants coaching staff, Chip Kelly FIRED, Eagles a DISASTER waiting to happen?!

Summary

Club Shay Shay – BEST OF NFL Week 12 Part 1

Date: November 26, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Podcast: Club Shay Shay (iHeartPodcasts and Shay Shay Media)

Episode Overview

This episode is a rapid-fire, engaging recap and analysis of the biggest stories and games from NFL Week 12. Shannon Sharpe and his co-host (“Ocho”, likely Chad Johnson) break down stunning player performances, controversial coaching decisions, and major team news, all in the duo’s dynamic, unfiltered, humorous style. Highlights include Malik Nabers’ public frustration with Giants' play-calling, the abrupt firing of Raiders OC Chip Kelly, the Texans’ defensive domination, and real talk about teams trending up or down—like the Bears, Rams, Cowboys, and Eagles.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Giants-Lions Overtime Drama: Malik Nabers' Frustration with Coaching

Timestamps: 02:29–12:43

• Recap: Lions beat the Giants in overtime. Jameer Gibbs exploded for a career-high 264 yards from scrimmage and 3 TDs.
• Giants interim HC Mike Kafka made a controversial 4th & goal decision, instead of kicking a field goal.
• Malik Nabers tweeted (then deleted) that the Giants’ staff were “making us lose on purpose,” calling out the playcalling.
• Shannon and Ocho discuss a shift in NFL culture: “We’re starting to see athletes publicly question their own team.” (05:20, Sharpe)
• Ocho: "I'm with Malik...Like, what are you doing?" (11:49)
• Discussion about Jameer Gibbs’ speed and explosiveness—compared to Tyreek Hill and Chris Johnson.
• “That young bull, Wandell Robinson…Boy, you showed up today. You real deal.” (05:04, Ocho)
• The importance of using common sense and trusting your defense in tight games.
• Memorable quote:
  • Sharpe: "Teams that win find ways to win. Teams that lose find ways to lose." (10:52)

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2. Bears on the Rise: Caleb Williams Shines

Timestamps: 12:43–17:32

• Bears defeat a Steelers team missing Aaron Rodgers; Caleb Williams throws for 3 TDs.
• Ocho credits the pairing of Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams for the Bears’ turnaround (14:24).
• The Bears are now leading their division—a feat given recent history.
• Discussion of Bears’ strong supporting cast: D.J. Moore, Rome Odunze, two tight ends, and D’Andre Swift.
• Sharpe: “You get the right coach...this is what you get: a Bears team leading their division.” (15:06)
• Ocho: “That might be a team you don’t want to see...” in the playoffs (15:07).

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3. Defensive Showcase: Texans vs. Bills

Timestamps: 21:48–33:21

• Texans edge out Bills 23-19 behind 8 sacks, 2 INTs, and a fumble recovery vs. Josh Allen.
• Analytical breakdown of the Texans’ defense:
  • "Will Anderson Jr. is about to get him a Hutchinson contract." (22:13, Sharpe)
  • Texans are number 1 in total defense, first in points allowed, top 3 in third-down D, pass, and rush defense.
• Praise for safety Kalen Bullock: “Two interceptions, forced fumble...all over the place.” (23:33, Ocho)
• Critique of Texans’ conservative late-game playcalling:
  • “What is with the goddamn conservative play calling?...Put your goddamn foot to the pedal and put the game away.” (26:02, Ocho)
• Fun banter: “The only people that didn’t get a sack was me and you and I’m in New York and you in Miami…if we’d have been in Houston, we might have could have got a half a sack together.” (25:52, Sharpe)
• Importance of trusting your best unit (defense) to win close games.

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4. Breaking News: Chip Kelly Fired as Raiders OC

Timestamps: 41:07–43:55

• Abrupt firing after only 11 games as the highest-paid OC in football.
• Ocho: “Somebody got to take the fall...Offensively we can’t get nothing going.”
• Disagreement with firing OCs midseason: “Who calling plays now? We can’t learn a new offense overnight.” (41:46, Ocho)
• Criticism of misusing personnel, e.g., putting slot receiver Tucker outside: “At best he’s a good third or fourth receiver. He needs to be in the slot.” (42:30, Sharpe)
• Larger theme about NFL impatience and the risks of plugging 'gadget' college schemes into pro offenses.

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5. Rams Dominate Bucs; Stafford’s Surge

Timestamps: 43:55–48:14

• Rams blow out the Bucs 34-7; Stafford posts 273 & 2 TDs. Puka and Devonte Adams star.
• Bucs’ offensive struggles after Baker Mayfield’s injury; Rams’ defensive dominance.
• Ocho marvels at the Rams’ consistent offensive identity and Stafford’s effectiveness:
  • “He didn’t even go to training camp...to come out and play like this all season.” (46:43, Ocho)
• Discussion about Rams being a serious NFC contender, alongside 49ers and Seahawks.

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6. Cowboys’ Comeback vs. Eagles: Exposing Philly’s Flaws

Timestamps: 48:35–61:42

• Dallas erases a 21-0 deficit and wins on a last-second field goal.
• Shannon points to cracks in the Eagles’ formula; AJ Brown has warned that “when the defense can’t bail us out, you have to run games on Jalen Hurts’ arm.” (49:28, Sharpe)
• Lane Johnson injury (possibly season-ending Lisfranc), Eagles’ run game struggles, too many penalties (14 in the game).
• CeeDee Lamb’s headline struggles: “He caught 4 of 11 targets...he dropped a flat-out touchdown.” (55:12+, Sharpe)
• Ocho: “He being lazy with his hands and eyes...I’ve been there, but not back-to-back like this.” (55:57)
• The reality of repeating as NFC champs and evolving as defenses adjust.
• Notable insight: “If you think you’re going to win the Super Bowl like last year, you’re fooling yourself.” (61:42, Sharpe)

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7. Vikings’ Offensive Woes and Quarterback Questions

Timestamps: 61:59–70:10

• Packers beat Vikings 23-6; Minnesota records only 4 yards in the second half, a low since 1991.
• Sharpe and Ocho question the Vikings’ QB play:
  • “He leaves a lot to be desired...I’m willing to give him runway, but right now, he leaves a lot to be desired.” (63:01, Sharpe)
• Talent mismatch: “You still have the same weapons Sam Darnold had last year...If you really are who you say you are based on your draft status...it’s looking like a heavy miss.” (69:14, Ocho)
• Justin Jefferson’s frustration: “It gets frustrating when they keep saying 'fixes are coming' each week, but nothing is different. It’s frustrating to lose, it’s frustrating to be up here saying the same thing every week.” (68:34, Jefferson as quoted by Sharpe)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On coaches' questionable decisions:
  “Sometimes I think they be making us lose on purpose.” – Malik Nabers’ deleted tweet (03:18, paraphrased)
• On CeeDee Lamb’s drops:
  “I thought that was Edward Scissorhands out there.” – Shannon Sharpe (56:28)
• On Texans' pass rush:
  “The only people that didn’t get a sack was me and you and I’m in New York and you in Miami.” – Sharpe (25:52)
• On player frustration:
  “He's saying all the right things in front of the camera, but behind closed doors...that conversation is completely different.” – Ocho on Justin Jefferson (69:08)
• On necessity of evolving schemes:
  “If you think you’re going to win the Super Bowl like last year, you’re fooling yourself.” – Sharpe (61:42)

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Tone & Style

Club Shay Shay offers an entertaining blend of sharp analysis, candid opinions, playful jabs, and real-life player insight. Shannon Sharpe and Ocho riff with confidence and humor, never shying from calling out poor play, questionable calls, or revealing the “real talk” behind the headlines. Listeners get genuine football expertise laced with laughter and unfiltered truth.

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Summary Table of Key Segments

| Segment | Topic | Timing | |---|---|---| | 1 | Giants-Lions, Nabers’ tweet, Jameer Gibbs | 02:29–12:43 | | 2 | Bears revival, Caleb Williams | 12:43–17:32 | | 3 | Texans’ Defensive showcase vs. Bills | 21:48–33:21 | | 4 | Chip Kelly firing | 41:07–43:55 | | 5 | Rams dominate Bucs, Stafford’s impact | 43:55–48:14 | | 6 | Cowboys-Eagles, Philly’s cracks | 48:35–61:42 | | 7 | Vikings’ QB issues & Jefferson’s frustration | 61:59–70:10 |

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This episode of Club Shay Shay covers Week 12’s biggest drama and delivers everything listeners expect: expert breakdowns, behind-the-scenes insight, player perspective, and plenty of laughs.

Transcript

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Favorite sports funk here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you so please subscribe or you're gonna make OO cry. The Lions beat the Giants in overtime. Jir Gibbs ran for a 69 yard touchdown on the first snap of overtime. Had a career high 264 yards from scrimmage to go along with three scores. Three Giants interim head coach Mike Kafka helped Detroit to Kafka went for it on fourth and goal from the sixth when his team slumping leading by three instead of kicking a short field goal that would have forced Detroit to score a touchdown. Giants Malik Walker let his frustration be known on Twitter as Malik Labor. What did I say? Malik. Malik Neighbors let his frustration be known on Twitter as he called out his team decision making making against the Giants overtime. This is what he tweeted Ocho Sometimes I think they be making us lose on purpose. Cause ain't no way for you to throw the ball instead of running it and make them burn them. Two timeouts then you don't kick the field goal. Then you have to go down and score football. Common sense. The tweet was quickly deleted. First Jameer Gibbs Ocho man this is college. You don't normally run the ball 15 times for 219 yards, 15 for 219, two touchdowns and then he caught another 11 for 45 on 12 targets. Armin Ross St. Brown had nine for a buck 49 and a touchdown. They look jamers 18 of 36. 366, two tubs, one pick. Hey, Gunner Olshevsky hit man. What you call the water that touched out so bad. Who?

[Sports Analyst 2]

James.

[Sports Analyst 1]

James wanted that touchdown so bad.

[Sports Analyst 2]

He wasn't going. He wasn't going down. Nah, hell no he wasn't going down. But James so funny Unk man, just having him out there on the field, man, playing with, playing with such a smile. He's so entertaining, so infectious. You know. I'm happy for him. Obviously I'm not sure if he's starting next week, but if he is starting next week again, I'm gonna be tuned in. I'm gonna be tuned in because just, just seeing him out there, man, it brings just a a joy for me. You know, as, as someone that can't play the game anymore. I get to vicariously live it through watching him play, man. But that's hey, that young bull, Wonell Robinson Wandell, he had himself a day.

[Sports Analyst 1]

9 for a buck 56 in a tub.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Boy, you showed up today, boy. Boy, you showed up today. I don't, I don't know where you've been, but they need, need to give you more targets. They need to continue to put you in positions to make them plays. God damn. Well, you was cutting the day, boy. You the real, you real deal.

[Sports Analyst 1]

And the guy that closed the deal at the end of the game, Aiden Hutchinson, got the sack to preserve the victory. Ocho, we're starting to see a shift. We're starting to see athletes publicly question their own team. Whereas before Ocho, we might get like, damn, I don't know what that call was, man. I don't know what that was.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Right, right, right.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I don't know why we did that in that situation. But these guys, as you saw, Malik, neighbors, he put it out there like, bro, what the hell are you doing? Yeah, run the football, make them burn them timeouts. Kick the field goal. We go up by six. Now they need to score a touchdown in order to beat us.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah, I don't understand. I'm confused. I was thinking it, I mean, I wouldn't tweet it if it was my team, but can you please explain the reason of why they would do that?

[Sports Analyst 1]

No offer without explanation. I guess he said, look, man, he's not wrong. Oo we what? We what? We two and nine. We two and nine. We got an opportunity to beat the Detroit Lions. That's how he's looking at it. But your defense has done a great job up until that point.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Very good job.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I'm gonna kick the field goal. Maybe if at the one yard line. Oo, I would, I would consider it. But not from the six. Nah, not from the six.

[Sports Analyst 2]

That's crazy.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Now if we're at the one yard line, we got Scat Pack. I'm, hey, I'm gonna give it to Scat Pack, I'm gonna give it to Sco.

[Sports Analyst 2]

I can live with.

[Sports Analyst 1]

But in this situation like this, I, I, I get, I, I get the frustration. Mike Kafka, the interim head coach, is like, man, look here, let we, hey, we going for it. But they played, I mean, they played as well as they, they played as well as they could for as long as they could.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah, they did.

[Sports Analyst 1]

And it wasn't enough, Ocho, look, it wasn't enough.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Honestly, the Giants fought, right?

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah, they did.

[Sports Analyst 2]

That was a very, that was a very exciting game. A game that I thought the Giants were going to continue to pull away from. I thought they were going to keep pulling away, but they and Them goddamn Lions wouldn't go nowhere. Man, that got damn. Jameer Gibbs might be the closest thing we have in today's game. That's similar to Chris Johnson.

[Sports Analyst 1]

That's who I was about to say.

[Sports Analyst 2]

He's out. How you outrunning the goddamn angle?

[Sports Analyst 1]

How you outrun the angle? 20 yards deep.

[Sports Analyst 2]

You not supposed to be able to do that unless you really, really. You got to be Tyreek fast. I'm thinking he might be up there with Tyreek.

[Sports Analyst 1]

When it comes to speed, Ocho, I. I think, for me, I was like. When he hit through the hole, I say, boy, if somebody. If somebody don't. You cannot let. He's a guy that. With that kind of speed, Ocho, you gotta make him chop his feet. Yeah, man, you can't let him get Ocho.

[Sports Analyst 2]

You got to.

[Sports Analyst 1]

First of all, he's already eight yards deep. You gonna let him hit the hole? You gonna let him get to the line of scrimmage? He damn near the full sprint.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Sports Analyst 1]

He's damn near the full sprint. So now by the time he gets. By the time he get to where the linebacker's supposed to be.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah, it's a wrap.

[Sports Analyst 1]

And the safety. The Ocho cut, the safety. I don't want to over. I don't want to overrun him and then have him cut back. So I got to try to. I got to try to. I got to try to. I got to try to. Damn. He in the end zone.

[Sports Analyst 2]

It's too late. It's too late, huh? Because what. Listen, once some guards come off and they engage and goddamn Jameer G and get to that second level clean.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Yes.

[Sports Analyst 2]

You done as a safety. If you ain't close the gap, you have no choice. You got to shoot. You got to shoot, because if he square you up or he catch an angle, unless you got you. You got to be just as fast as him in order to catch him.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah. They ain't got no safety. They ain't got no safety as fast as him. I wonder what his. I wonder what his speed hit. He hit 22 miles an hour.

[Sports Analyst 2]

You think so?

[Sports Analyst 1]

I think so. Yeah. Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 2]

He had to. Especially. Especially on that long one. He had to.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah. Yeah. He a man. He's special. Special.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Nice.

[Sports Analyst 1]

He gotta be over a thousand yards now, isn't he?

[Sports Analyst 2]

After the. After the night. After the night. He definitely gotta be over a thousand.

[Sports Analyst 1]

He gotta be, because he just went crazy. Didn't he go crazy last week?

[Sports Analyst 2]

The week before? Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Nine fifty one.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Damn. That's it.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah. We have it updated. Because we don't know if it included today because he been. He been. He been. He been doing something kind of special.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Jags, Eagles, Falcons. Damn. I can't believe the Bengals lost, man. We almost.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I can. If the Bengals.

[Sports Analyst 2]

We almost had that game, though.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Oh, Jamil Gills about to get paid this year. Three is the third year.

[Sports Analyst 2]

It is.

[Sports Analyst 1]

It includes today. Yeah. Yeah. But he ain't got nearly the carries that those other guys got. Yeah, Man, it was. That's what's happened. O. O. You know what it is? OO when you lose, you find ways to lose.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Teams that win find ways to win, win. Yeah, the Giants just found another way to lose.

[Sports Analyst 2]

I mean, hey, that play calling was iffy. I'm just gonna be honest. I'm gonna. This, this, this. This is why. This is why people question. Yeah, this is why people question sometime if you heard me, huh? With games like today or this, this.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Game.

[Sports Analyst 2]

This is why they question if the games be rigged or not. Because why would you. Why would you make the decisions that you made? You know? And now you. You got your own player calling, calling it out. And I think he deleted it right away because somebody.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Oh, he did it. But, hey, Ocho, you know what happened when you press in?

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

You can't get it. Somebody done screenshotted it.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Oh, yeah. It's too late. Yeah, Too late.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Then you can't even. And you can't press in and then put delete. You can't hit it fast enough.

[Sports Analyst 2]

I just. I, I don't. I, I, I, I'm. I'm with Malik, though. Like, what are you doing? Like, what?

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah, I would. I'm with Malik. I'm with Malik to myself. Yeah. Or to my family. Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 2]

I ain't gonna say it.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I can't put that out there, O. Joe. Oh, hell no. But, man, Gibbs was sensational today, man. This dude, this. He ridiculous. He ridiculous. He up there and catches. Because I think this is second double digit how many catches he got. Cause remember the other time, the other day, ocho, he had 140something yards receiving in like 80 yard. Like 70. 80 yards rushing, you know?

[Sports Analyst 2]

You know what? You know what? He like, he damn near like he's a dual threat like Christian McCaffrey.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He got. He got more speed than McCaffrey, though.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Of course. I ain't even close.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah, he got. He got speed to burn. Oh. Caleb Williams throws for three touchdowns as the Bears beat the Steelers 31 28, with Aaron Rodgers on the sideline. Rogers is 25 and 5 against the Bears from the long tenure in Green Bay, counting the playoff. He once famously turned a crowd at Soldier Field and screamed that he still owns Chicago. But he didn't get an opportunity to play today to show off. That still the case. Instead, the NFC north leading Bears 8 and 31 for the eighth time in nine games. Caleb Williams, 1935. 239, three touchdowns. They didn't run the ball about four yards of carry. D.J. moore had five catches, 64 yards, two touchdowns. Dunes they had some big catches. Loveland, 4 for 49. A touchdown. Burden the third, 3 for 46. Man, he looked good. Bears look good. Ben Johnson got this team playing D A. Got that defense getting after the quarterback. Man, I will say this, Ocho. I'll say this.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hold on, hold on. Tell me, tell me, tell me. Take your time.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Caleb. You got to know when the journey's over. Oh, you can't give up. You can't give up. You can't give up seven points on your possession.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Oh, the safety.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Well, T.J. you got sacked. You know, Watt sacked him and he lost the ball.

[Sports Analyst 2]

The ball.

[Sports Analyst 1]

You can't do that. You can't put your team in harm's way like that. Go ahead. Go ahead and throw the ball away. I mean, you tr. He's tremendous. He can. Hey, he can throw from the pocket. He can throw rolling right. He got great legs. And get out of harm's way. But you can't do that. Yeah, other than that, I thought you played really, really, really well today. Go ahead.

[Sports Analyst 2]

No, I was just gonna say, man. Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams together has been. It's been magic. They've been pure magic. The Bears have been abysmal, you know, the past few seasons, and obviously they've always been. They've been struggling at the quarterback position. Trubisky brother Fields. But now, now, you know, even though there were so many people that. That were doubting Caleb Williams, not understanding. If you get the right coach, if you get the right coach that has the right play calling and can play to his strengths and maximize his potential at that position, this is what you get. You get. You get a Bears. A Bears team that's leading their division. Wait, they are. They are leading the division, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, a nine and three.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Eight and three.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Okay. Eight and three. Hey, that might be a team, too. You don't want to see. That might be a team. You don't want to see it extremely.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Well, they got a quarterback that's Mobile. There's a chance that they're going to have a home game. You ain't really trying to. Are you really trying to be out there and so you trying to be.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Outside in that weather? Yeah, absolutely not.

[Sports Analyst 1]

That. That wind coming off Lake Michigan ain't nothing to play with. Now that's that bone. That's that bone chilling cold.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey, one thing about it, when it is cold like that, you might not be able to run the ball. It's cold and windy. You might. Might not be able to throw the ball like you want to.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah, but give. Give Chicago credit. They've. Look, and I said this when they got. I remember having this conversation. They like, oh, I wouldn't take a quarterback. I got Justin Fields. I said they passed on a quarterback. You think they go about to pass on the number one overall quarterback back to back years because they had. Remember they traded that OO to Carolina so Carolina could select Bryce Young. I say, you actually think they're going to pass back to back years on the number one overall quarterback? You do realize the reason why they're in this position? This quarterback that he got, they moving on. Oh, you think? I don't think. I know. He's good. He's really, really good. And they've done a great job. They've done a great job oo getting him talent. You look at D.J. moore, they extend D.J. moore, they get Roma Dun. They got two tight ends with col commit and Loveland. They get Burton the third in the draft. They get Swift. I like what they've done.

[Sports Analyst 2]

We gotta get offensive line.

[Sports Analyst 1]

They rebuild the offensive line. Ocho. They, they, they, they. They got. They, they, they gonna be. They're gonna be good. They can be good for a minute. Now that's not an easy division because you got the packers in that division with a young quarterback. You got the. The Detroit with. With golf and Gibbs and Armin Ra and Jameson Williams and they got an outstanding defense in Detroit. Yeah, I don't know.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Don't, don't forget them weapons down there in Chicago. Now we got.

[Sports Analyst 1]

That's what I said. I say they're gonna be good for a minute. I was talking about them. Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Okay.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Okay.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Okay. We got a doomsday. You know, we loot the Luther Burden. Yeah.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Come on now.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah, we. We didn't boy, gonna. And make sure. Never mind. I ain't gonna say it. I ain't gonna say it no more.

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[Sports Analyst 2]

For 25 years, I've explored what it means to heal, not just for myself, but alongside others. I'm Mike Della Rocha. This is Sacred Lessons, a space for reflection, growth and collective healing. What do you tell men that are hurting right now?

[Sports Analyst 1]

Everything's going to be okay on the other side, you know, just push through it.

[Sports Analyst 2]

And you know, ironically, the root of the word spirit is breath.

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[Sports Analyst 2]

Which is why one of the most revolutionary acts that we can do as people is just breathe.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Next to the wound is their gifts. You can't even find your gifts unless.

[Sports Analyst 2]

You go through the wound.

[Sports Analyst 1]

That's the hard thing. You think, well, I'm going to get my gifts. I don't want to go through all that. You gotta go through the wounds you're.

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[Sports Analyst 1]

And it's all they say.

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[Sports Analyst 2]

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[Sports Analyst 1]

The Buffalo Bills 20. Excuse me. The Texans 23. The Buffalo Bills 19. Texans D 8 sacks, 2 pick 1 fumble recovery. Countless, countless pressures. They probably would had him another three or four times had it not been Josh Allen.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Cause he got the ball out a couple of times, Ocho, and he was, you know, able to get out of harm's way. But I thought they did an unbelievable job. Will Anderson Jr. Is about to get him a Hutchinson contract.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Woo.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey, he the real hunter on one side. Will Anderson Jr. You got Mario Edwards Jr. You got Rankin, you have Barnett. They got a front that they can rotate guys in. Tuolo got in on action and the back end is solid. You got Stingley, you got laps. They are really, really good on the back end. But their front four, they front six is exceptional and they did an outstanding job considering the offensive player of the week, Josh Allen. Three touchdowns. There's only two men that's ever had three touchdowns rushing, Ocho. Three touchdown passes in a game.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Otto Graham did it in 54 in the championship game. Josh Allen has done it Twice. They made Josh Allen seem normal.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Sports Analyst 1]

They made him seem normal. And Josh Allen is anything but normal. And so I don't think that's the way Josh played tonight. That was all because of that Texas defense. I ain't effing with you no more. Now, I told you Josh Allen was supposed to have 255 yards. That's all I needed. Look what he got.

[Sports Analyst 2]

He had 253.

[Sports Analyst 1]

That means he was under. I said he was going over. Before you go, Ocho. Here's the Texans defense, number one in total defense, first in points allowed, third in defense, third and third down percentage, third in pass defense, third in rush defense, fifth in takeaways. Take off.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey, listen, around the board, the Texas defense, around the board on all three levels. The front, second level, and that back end is phenomenal. For one. I know what will Anderson Jr did tonight. I know how he looked tonight. But I want to give Kayn Bullock some love, right? I want to give Kaylin Bullock some love. Two interceptions, force fumble. He made Shakira fumble early in the third.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Was that in the third quarter?

[Sports Analyst 2]

I think. I think it might. It might have been the third. Kayla Bullock was all over the place.

[Sports Analyst 1]

He was.

[Sports Analyst 2]

He was all over the place. Will Anderson, they sacked Josh Allen eight times, huh? It almost looked like what we consider Superman at most times with his ability to extend plays and play off script. It looked like he didn't even belong out there. They had him uncomfortable all game.

[Sports Analyst 1]

He missed kryptonite, boys.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yep. Basically, that's exactly what it was. And for me, for the Texans, right, if we can get that offensive and goddamn brother Mills. David mills was only 16 for 30 with two TDs. He only had 153 yards.

[Sports Analyst 1]

He left some. He left some plays out there. Oo. I know you saw it. I know you saw what I saw. I was tweeting, I was like, bro, how many throws, how many TD throws he gonna leave out there?

[Sports Analyst 2]

Oh, yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Got the guy open. You hit the guy in the back of the head. You got the guy I'm talking about. That's the defender you hitting in the.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Back of the head under throwing the ball. He under the ball. But listen, I. I'm not sure when C.J. shroud comes back, but when he does, when he does, if that offense, if C.J. stroud can elevate that offense and meet that defense just halfway, we don't need you to be top five in the NFL. Just meet him halfway. It can be scary. It can be scary, especially if they can get, if they can get, get in that doorway and get in them playoffs. But that's a defense that don't nobody want to see at all.

[Sports Analyst 1]

The defense is. And that's the question offensively, because this defense is as good as advertised. The. Miko Ryan does a great job of setting the pe. I forget the. The defensive coordinator was calling the plays tonight, but Miko turned a play calling over to him. Yeah, but when you look at Danielle Hunter had two sacks, Will Anderson Jr. Had two and a half sacks to a Lolo had a sack, Tim Settle Jr. Had a sack, Mario Edwards had half a sack, Barnett had a sack. I mean, hell, the only people that didn't get a sack was me and you and I'm in New York and you in Miami. Hell, if we'd have been in Houston, we might have could have got a half a sack together.

[Sports Analyst 2]

And I got, I got one more thing, one more thing for those of you that in the chat, I don't understand why officer coordinators do this.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Right.

[Sports Analyst 2]

You understand how well your defense is playing?

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yes.

[Sports Analyst 2]

I think in the fourth quarter, towards the end of the third quarter, going heading into the, into the fourth quarter, you're getting, you're getting all these turnovers, right. You're getting all these opportunities for the Texans offensively. What is with the goddamn conservative play calling? Just because you have the lead, why not be aggressive? Put your goddamn foot to the goddamn pedal and put the game away. Put the game away so it doesn't come to a nail batter, a nail biter at the end where they got. They run a goddamn pitching ladder on 4th and 27 and get it and have opportunity to win the goddamn game. It shouldn't even have to come to that if with them last three offensive series where you had the ball, you run the ball first down, you run the ball second down, and then it's, it's third and nine and 38, and it's, it's damn near hard to get.

[Sports Analyst 1]

It's.

[Sports Analyst 2]

It's hard to get because you don't.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Want to put that area. Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 2]

And you don't want to put the ball in harm's way. So you don't, you don't call plays that can put the ball in harm's way. On third down for brother David Mills. You know, maybe if C.J. stroud was in there, maybe the play calling is a little bit more aggressive because you trust him a little bit more with the football in his hands. But like, come on, the defense is playing balls out. Put the game away. When you got the opportunity, six, seven minutes in the game, four minutes in the game, you got the ball. You run the damn ball three times in a row. Like, come on, man.

[Sports Analyst 1]

The defense, no, they know that you don't trust Davis Mills. So they know there's a better than 80% chance that you're going to run it. So what do we call a run? Blitz on first down, stop you for no yard, no game. You see, it's plays like that, Ocho, and you had an opportunity. Kirk dropped one in the end zone. He was worried about his feet and forgot to catch the ball.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Cause Mills put it right in his hands. Ocho, he's trying to drag his feet now. If you go look at the adjustment Higgins had, he. Higgins had to play on the sideline.

[Sports Analyst 2]

He's.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Bro, you got to. Ocho, we gonna say pause. You gotta go limp, Ocho. You gotta go limp on the sideline, Ocho. That's a catch, Ocho. You can't put it any better. You can't take that full extended last step. He get his right foot down and he tries to take a full left. No, you got to go live there. That is really. Even though he had an opportunity, it's not like. And then he came late in the fourth quarter, he had a sideline catch, and he toe touched it. In that situation, you got to go limp on the sideline, bro. You can't take that full extended step.

[Sports Analyst 2]

You can't. You got to be self aware. It's all about being self aware and understanding where you are on the field, knowing how much room you have, you know, and one of. One of the things that you do once you come out that break, it's all about knowing where you are, knowing when to allow the bodies to go limp, to make sure you can ensure the catch and make sure you get your feet in.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Because first of all, you're probably at a situation like that, you're what, probably two, three yards outside the number. So you gonna speed, cut it, you gonna hit 10, roll to 12. So you already know that. Yeah, there are some plays. The center for the Houston Texans, they drop Joey Bosa. They bring the linebacker from depth. They got three guys blocking two. He lets 50 run right in the gap block. If that's you, it's a perfect. You can't ask for anything better.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Ojo, right there for you.

[Sports Analyst 1]

They drop shows go away. And now you got three guys. You got the center, guard and tackle, and the center and the guard, they blocking two guys, one guy and 50 come right up the gut, bro. That's perfect. Center. All you gotta do is just push the guy onto the guard and you're like, come on, 50. I'm gonna hit you dead in your damn mouth. Yeah, that's all you got is stuff like that. On the first play, they came out with kinda like a little blitz. And Shakira, okay, Shakira comes in motion. Come. Hey, he. He comes in short motion and then he bellies back. Okay, you bring pressure guy you from depth. That is a punt returner. That is a kick returner. What do you think the likelihood from 15, 20 yards deep you are going to be able to tackle Shakur in a one on one situation in the open field?

[Sports Analyst 2]

In the open field, it's not happening. In the open field, it's not happening. I don't care if you come up under control. I don't care if you come up and come to balance. He's going to make you miss every.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Gonna make you miss every time. I got a better chance of catching the win. And that's not happening. It's things like that on the hook and ladder. I'm like, oh, my goodness. Hey, really for y' all not see the guys crossing? Y' all don't see them. So y' all don't. So, Ocho, I'm in front. I can. But it's kinda like, I'm coming. I'm driving my car. Oh, I see that guy. I see the guy about that pedestrian about to get in the crosswalk. Or I see this guy. But.

[Sports Analyst 2]

But you know what? On that play on the fourth and 27, when Palmer catches that ball as aggressive. You know how aggressive that goddamn defense is. So they locked in. They took a beeline straight for Palmer and didn't even see the goddamn ladder. Didn't even see the hook and ladder come around with Shakira, which is why they was able to get fourth and 27. Ain't no goddamn plays for fourth and 27. Ain't no play for that.

[Sports Analyst 1]

And Ocho. And here's the thing, is that the guy was tra. The guy that was trailing Palmer, he. I mean like, bro, you ain't fitting to catch him. Everybody on that side got a rally to the football.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Oh, yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

But they were able and chat. You've heard me say it many times. The mark of any great unit. Can you get done what you need to get done when you got to.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yes.

[Sports Analyst 1]

At the end of the day, their best unit. I want my best unit on the field. Ocho, if I'm down three points, if I'm down and I need to get a touchdown. I want my best unit on the field. Yeah, if I need to get a stop, I want my best unit on the field. So I would have trusted the defense to stop Josh Allen more than I would have trusted the Houston Texans offense to go get a game winning field goal or something of that nature. So that's the unit that I want on the field. That is it. That's what I want and that's what they got. And Miko probably said, hey, we gonna win or lose this game. You. I mean, it had been heartbreaking as well as that defense had played. If they had lost to lose that game in the final seconds, now we would look back, Ocho, we look back like, well, damn, the offense did have numerous opportunities and they would have. But when you got those, you got those kryptonite boys, you got them head hunters like they got out there. Yeah, bro, I couldn't ask for a better situation. I want Hunter, I want Anderson. I won't settle. I want rankings. I want Edward Jr. I won't, I won't. Stingley. I want left. I want you guys on the field.

[Sports Analyst 2]

You put the game.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Come on. Oh, come on. Oh. I don't want that. I want y' all ass on the field.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I like it. Obviously, me being a, being an offensive guy, I prefer you go.

[Sports Analyst 1]

What you want you, Carson and TJ on the field.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hold on. But this is the thing. I don't even want it to come down to the last few seconds. I want to put the game early when I had the ball with four, five minutes to go.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah, you could have made it 27. You could have made it 27.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Bingo.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah, you could have made It 27.

[Sports Analyst 2]

16.

[Narrator/Announcer]

So.

[Sports Analyst 2]

So regardless of what they did, there was no, there was no way to come back, regardless of what they did. So now we could, we could relax. We could relax on the sideline and just play defense. We ain't got nothing to worry about, but here we go. Nail biter at the end. Now we have to rely on that defense. But again, as good as they are, there's a reason why they number one. There's a reason why they number one. So I really enjoyed that. That was one good game.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I.

[Sports Analyst 2]

If I'm not mistaken, some of the Thursday night games have been doozies, huh?

[Sports Analyst 1]

They've been some snooze fest.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yes, but not the night.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Interesting game.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey, this was a very good game.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Ocho, Bill's old line. They kicked your ass. They kicked Your ass. Now, I think the right tackle end up getting benched. Now, I didn't see him get hurt, but I know they had a. They had a right. They had a right tackle adjustment.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

And Dawkins, who's their best offensive lineman, he got work tonight. It happens. It happens to the best of us. We've all had moments in games where we would, hey, I was this and Ocho, you've been that, and somebody get the best of us as a unit.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Offensive line pass pro.

[Sports Analyst 2]

They got work.

[Sports Analyst 1]

They get a number on y'. All. They work overtime on y' all ass.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah, they.

[Sports Analyst 1]

They whipped y' all ass like y' all owed them money. I'm not sure if somebody made a. I don't know what went on, but when you do somebody like that, you whipping them like they owe you money. They owe you money.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Absolutely. Absolutely not.

[Sports Analyst 1]

The rent do. Nah, he owe me money. I'mma whip his ass, boy. They gave him work.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Will Anderson Jr. I will say this. There was a third and 13, I think a third and 12, 13 situation. You got to relay to your defensive tackle. If you go inside, you got to tell him to loop. You both can't get inside because you both went inside. And guess what happened? Josh Allen went outside the back door open.

[Sports Analyst 2]

The back door open.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah. You cannot do that. You got to. You've got to relay that. I know you're quick, and I know, like, oh, I got. I got his ass set up. I don't. Been beating him around the edge. You kind of been beating them all. You beat him around the edge one time, you want. Next time you spin him, you spin inside. Yeah. So you was having your way with it, but I'm just saying for future reference, you got to be careful at that. You got to communicate with your dt. Hey, bro, check this out. Hey. I'm across his face. You bubble outside.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah, I see. You know what? They got to communicate. They got to communicate. Matter of fact, that's a stunt. Huh? And if you call it a stunt, it has to be called in the huddle. They can't just make that up, you know?

[Sports Analyst 1]

Make it up. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm gonna make. We can make it up. Cause I. I think so if I'm d' Amico Ryan, I trust Will Landis.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Okay, okay, Okay.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I trust him enough that I'm gonna give him the leeway, I'm gonna give him the latitude, but I need him to convey that with the dt D tackle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, hey. Bro, check this out. We gonna run an E.T.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

End.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey, hey, listen. When they can go on their own script like that, on their own page, off script, based on what's called, and they can communicate that and then make the play. Yes.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey. Cause now we. Now we got. Now we got. Now we got him boxed in. Because, look, I want you to go up the field because I'm going inside. And if you see you up the field, he's going to dive inside. That'll give me enough opportunity that I can get him.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Right. And if you come out the back door, you'll be right there waiting on him.

[Sports Analyst 1]

You. You. Hey, you right there. That was the only thing defensively that I will say, because I thought they played a perfect game tonight.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yes, absolutely.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Look, like I said, we can nitpick the guy playing from depth because when Shakur go in that short motion, you bring pressure, he bubbles out the backside. You got him one on one. He is a punt returner. The number one job as a punt returner is to make the first guy miss.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey, the first guy, you make him miss.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Now you don't even count.

[Sports Analyst 1]

He's looking at you like the punter because they said, we got everybody else. We got everybody else blocked. What you got to do to the partner, make him.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Make him miss.

[Sports Analyst 1]

So that's how he's looking at you with all that space.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah. You're not. You're not tackling.

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[Sports Analyst 1]

Everything's gonna be okay on the other side, you know, just push through it.

[Sports Analyst 2]

And you know, ironically, the root of the word spirit is breath.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Wow.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Which is why one of the most revolutionary acts that we can do as people is just breathe.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Next to the wound is their gifts. You can't even find your gifts unless.

[Sports Analyst 2]

You go through the wound.

[Sports Analyst 1]

That's the hard thing. You think, well, I'm going to get my gifts. I don't want to go through all that. You got to go through the wounds.

[Narrator/Announcer]

You left listening to other people's near death experiences.

[Sports Analyst 1]

And that's all they say.

[Narrator/Announcer]

In conclusion, love is the answer.

[Sports Analyst 2]

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[Sports Analyst 1]

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[Sports Analyst 1]

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[Sports Analyst 1]

Before you go any further, we have breaking news. The Raiders just relieved Chip Kelly of his duties. Chip Kelly signed a contract to make him the highest paid offensive coordinator in football this off season. But he was just, he was dismissed after just 11 games.

[Sports Analyst 2]

God damn.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey, he did not stay in college.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Listen, somebody, somebody got to take the fall with this. Somebody could take. Got to take the fall. Somebody, somebody got to take it on. Obviously it ain't gonna be Pete. It ain't gonna be the quarterback. Okay, who we gonna blame offensively? We can't get nothing going offensively.

[Sports Analyst 1]

So who's call that a gadget ass offense? What you call it that Gadget ass offense.

[Sports Analyst 2]

But this, this is the part I don't like. We in the middle of the season, right? You let the office of the coordinator go. So who, what, what, what, what plays we call it now or we have someone else calling the same exact offense because we can't learn a brand new offense.

[Sports Analyst 1]

No offense. But you know, sometimes Ocho maybe a different set of eyes. I like that, see things differently. I like that down in distance area of the field.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Or actually understanding the strengths of the goddamn supporting cast you have and putting these right places. Why is, why is Tucker out there on the outside? Why is he out there on the outside as if he's a troop. No disrespect as he's the true number one.

[Sports Analyst 1]

He'll slide. He'll slide. At best. He's third. He your third. He a third. He a good third or fourth receiver. He needs to be in the slot. He don't need to be outside. First of all, he only like. Well, I thought he's like five seven, five eight.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hold on. I know he fast as hell, but he out there lined up two yards outside the number running comebacks, man, they finished sit on that all day, huh? Yeah, they finna sit on that all day. Like come on, man.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah, it's. Hey, they paid a lot of money. They made him the highest paid offensive coordinator in football all Right. Time to let it go. If that work could go back to college. You gotta have. You can have a great career in college. Hey, and that worked. But you know, you go ahead and try to change guys. Guys that have been doing stuff their entire life. Remember the first thing he did asking Jen. He wanted to put Ashton, Jenny put his hands on his thighs. The man been standing up the whole while.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey, can I ask you a question?

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yes.

[Sports Analyst 2]

When you. When you see Jameer Gibbs in the.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Backfield, how is he standing Damn near standing straight up.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Straight up and down. Because it that. That had.

[Sports Analyst 1]

That.

[Sports Analyst 2]

That gives you that. It doesn't comfort nothing.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I'm comfortable. I want what you need. Hell, I'll let you play in some Uggs if you go tell me you're go out there run for 215. I don't care nothing about what you got on. I really don't bad. Please. Thank you. Chat man. Oh, Chad. Y' all doing us good tonight. Ocho, we got 50k in the chat tonight. 50k in a regular season game in a long time. Chad, thank you so much for this support. Really appreciate it. The Rams beat the Buccaneers by the score of 34 to 7. Baker Mayfield left the game early due to a left shoulder injury. He did not return. He was spotted on the sideline wearing a sling. Teddy Bridgewater came in and filled in for for him. But the. The Rams did a great job. They were clicking on all cylinders from an offensive standpoint. And then when they fell behind, they could hunt those two edge rushers and that great front four that the Rams normally have. Going all the way back to the fearsome foursome with Merlin Olson, Deacon Jones, Lamar Lundy and wrote the great Rosie Greer. They got after. They got after Baker, they got after Teddy Bridgewater and they win going away. They scored 30 first half and they cruise in the second half. Only scored three, but that was all they needed because the Bucks didn't score at all. Oh, you're watching this game. Matthew Stafford, 25 or 35, 273, two touchdowns. They didn't run the ball particularly well. 19 carries for 70 yards. Puka, seven catches, 97 yards. Excuse me. Devonte Adams five for 62, two tubs Parkinson had four for 41 and a touchdown. But when you look at this team, they can run it with Kyron Williams and Blake. They can't. We know they can throw it with, with and, and. And those weapons that they have. And Matthew Stafford at the helm. Ocho, what is it like what you like so much about when you Watch the Rams. You watch them play and they do this every single week. So this is not, you know, an aberration or anything like that, an anomaly. This is who they are. This is what they do.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Listen, this is the importance of having a quarterback. Huh? This is important to have my quarterback obviously considered a gunslinger, an mvp, a Super bowl winning quarterback. And you can make a team one dimensional. They couldn't run the ball, but they threw that all over. I'm sorry. They threw the ball all over the place. They did what they wanted to do. Puka. Puka. Eden devonte. Listen to. I'm not even sure what was Tampa Bay doing. Why are they leaving? Devonte. Adams singled up over there in man to man, knowing goodwill. Ain't nobody gonna be able to stick with him. He, he's scoring touchdowns all over the place. Making it look easy and making it look really easy. Especially if you watch, if you watch it from tv like, well, God damn.

[Sports Analyst 1]

You know he gonna hit you. Ocho. They know he gonna hit him with.

[Sports Analyst 2]

That pause every, every time. Hey, listen. And once you relax, once he hits you with that head, once you relax, he take off is. It's a done deal. But, but outside of that, man, they, they look really good, man. They look really, really good. Really, really sharp. Matt Stafford is good, huh? The man, man didn't play and he didn't even have. He didn't even go to training camp.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Nope.

[Sports Analyst 2]

He didn't even go to training camp. So to be able to come out here and play like this all season long, you know what? They 9 and 2 now, right?

[Sports Analyst 1]

92, best record in the, in the NFC.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey, they're gonna be hell to deal with, boy. But coming out of that NFC now.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Because Seattle look good. I mean, that, that division, you got them, you got Seattle and you got the 49ers. The 49ers have the best record within the division. They're four and one in the division. Yeah, so they have the best record. They just don't have the best overall record. They did get purdy back. Christian McCaffrey is healthy. They're doing a lot with Kittle and Iuk. It's going to be interesting when they get, when they get Pierce all back, if he's coming back. Defensive, they're trying to, you know, trying to mix and match. They were not their two best players, Fred Warner and, and Nick Bosa, but they're making it for some. Somehow, some way they're making it work. But the Rams make light work of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers tonight. Run their record to 9 and 2, thanks to a 347 victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Tampa falls to 6 and 5. Baker Mayfield was injured in the ball game. Um, obviously he's gonna probably get an MRI and see what's going on with that shoulder. Hopefully it's not something that's long term, but Tampa, Tampa look didn't look good tonight. They couldn't run the football. They didn't throw the ball. They didn't really do anything well. And that has a lot to do with the Rams. Not so much what they didn't do.

[Sports Analyst 2]

But the Rams put so much pressure. They applied so much pressure out the gate.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah. Oh, they can get after you now.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. So they. They kept Bacon. Bacon may feel uncomfortable. Didn't allow him to sit in the pocket. He had to run and scramble for his life. He had to extend plays. He did the best he could, but at the end of the day, it was nearly not enough. Not even close.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Ocho. The Cowboys fall behind 21 nothing, score 24 unanswered points, and they win on a game. Brandon Aubrey's 42 yard field goal as time expired. Jalen Hurst said after the game, we gotta find a way to finish the game, and we gotta find some consistency in what we do. Definitely the tale of two halves. In the end, we didn't play a complete game as a team, and it got us today. We've got to own this one. It's let that light a fire in us as a team and stay together and move forward. AJ Brown been trying to tell y' all this. Eagle fans. AJ Brown been trying to tell you what happens when the defense can't bail us out. You cannot run the football. You're gonna win games moving forward. On Jalen Hurst's arm now, he got some pressure that he doesn't normally get.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Lane Johnson is a big out the center. Jurgens.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Ah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

It Diggy Zooa was whipping ass inside today.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yes, sir.

[Sports Analyst 1]

But with the exception of one game, Saquon has not run the ball this year. Saquon had 10 carries for 22 yards.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Jalen Hurts had seven for 33. Bigsby had one for eight. So that's 18 carries for 63 yards.

[Sports Analyst 2]

This is going to be like this all season long.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Now, you had two. You had two turnovers yet. I mean, the defense was balling. That's. I was sitting there and I started to tweet. I started to tweet this, but I didn't.

[Sports Analyst 2]

What?

[Sports Analyst 1]

They had the ball second and 17.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Huh?

[Sports Analyst 1]

They just run the ball pick up four yards. Hey, how about trying to go for it and try to get 9 or 10? Now we got something manageable. You run the ball into the ladder scrimmage, it now is third and 17. I think AJ Brown or somebody picked up 12 yards. Now if you'd have picked up 12, if you picked up five or six yards before, and now come back and get the 12, now you got a first down.

[Sports Analyst 2]

First down.

[Sports Analyst 1]

They give up on too many plays. Well, our defensive bail is out of defense. No.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Well, you know, what about not wanting to put the ball in harm's way? I mean, but not wanting to put the ball in harm way, but also being able to trust your quarterback to make the right decisions with the ball.

[Sports Analyst 1]

They don't. I don't care what they say. They don't. They don't. Because there are not a whole lot of people that have a quarterback that's won a Super Bowl MVP that on second and 17, they handing the ball off. They gonna throw the ball. Let me try to get half of it back. Ocho. Now I got a manageable third down, right. I get all this saying, Stefanski, excuse me, Sirion, is gonna say all this stuff and I get all of that, but they don't trust him like they should trust him. As a guy that started damn near his entire career in the NFL. He came in as a backup, he got the starting job and he hasn't relinquished it. He's gone to the playoffs, he's been to two Super Bowls. He's won one and he's won a league and he won a Super bowl mvp. They don't trust him like they should.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Now this loss.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Should get the undivided attention.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Now, AJ ain't gonna say this, but. AJC I told you, but, but listen.

[Sports Analyst 2]

I told you, but, but also, look at the game in that fourth quarter. Look at the game now. I know, I know, I know. The Cowboys were able to come back, but they had about 37, 11 goddamn fumbles in a row in back to back series.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yes. Saquon fumbled and then they punted it. Defense did a great job. He fumbled too. There's only so many times that you can keep putting your defense right back on the field. They just got off the field. They get them all to say, quan, he fumbled it. The defense hold them. They put the ball. Defense right back on the field.

[Sports Analyst 2]

On the field.

[Sports Analyst 1]

There's only. Look, I don't care how, how much you build a levy. If it rains enough, it will burst.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

And that water Will come over that levee again. Another thing that happened Eagles. I just want to know how many penalties that's issued. Ocho, they had 14 penalties.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah, they had a lot 14.

[Sports Analyst 1]

No, they had more than a lot. A lot of the parcel of land they had 14. I mean, Dallas had 473 yards of offense. That was, that was. Look, this is when Dak is at his absolute best. Oh yeah, because now he can throw caution to the window. Because guess what, Ocho, if you lose. Oh, well, but. Cause I, you know, when I worked with Dan, Danny and I, Dan Marino and we worked, worked together for a decade. For decade. And he said, he's like, hey, if I threw three interceptions, hell, what's the difference between three and four? What's the difference between four and five? I'm gonna keep letting it rip, let it go. Hey, I mean they put us, they should have put this thing away in the first 21 nothing.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Listen, uncle, if you playing Madden, you gotta pass the sticks. The game is over at 21 nothing. I thought the game was over. Obviously I had both game going. I'm watching the Raiders, I'm watching the Raiders and the Browns. I'm watching Eagles and the Cowboys.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Boom.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Both TVs set up right there. So I'm thinking, okay, damn. Well, the Cowboys out of 21 zip in the NFL, if you continue to keep your foot on the gas, it's no way. As good as their defense is, it's no way the Cowboys should be able to come back. But lo and behold, boy, they got a young dude out there. They got a young dude out there, man in Dallas that got a star on his helmet. When he got drafted, he was standing just like this, huh? Man, listen when we, listen when we talk about top five again. When we talk about top five receivers and understand the potential and what they've been able to do and how there was a certain team that might have been holding him back based on what we see in this year. Man, stop, man, stop playing.

[Sports Analyst 1]

First of all, it shouldn't even be 21 nothing. Ocho. What CD might. Better make sure you make curfew moving forward. CD dropping an ass load of passes. Ocho, you watched it and I've watched it. He dropped like four or five. Hold on. How many targets? Hold on, let me go back because Ocho, he dropped. Ocho, he dropped a flat out touchdown. He dropped it in the end zone.

[Sports Analyst 2]

That would have ended the game. I'm glad they won the game because that might have been on CD if.

[Sports Analyst 1]

They had 11 targets. He caught four of them, huh? 11 targets. He called four. He threw four or five of them back at Dak. I mean, he was a. He turned into a retriever. You know what a retrieval, though. You. You hunting quail or pheasant, Go get it, boy. He'll pick it up, pick it and bring it back to you. Yeah, that's what he was doing. He's picking the ball up, handed to the official. No, no, no, no, bro, I need you to be a receiver. We pay you $34 million, and right now. Well, you know, you say everybody. We ain't got to say nothing. Y' all see with your own eyes. Y' all see Pick is out playing it. We ain't got to say nothing. But you see it.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah, he being lazy with his hands and eyes. That's all it is. Being lazy with your. Being Lazy with your hands and eyes. You gotta.

[Sports Analyst 1]

He lead the league and drop. So Joe, he leap.

[Sports Analyst 2]

He leading the league.

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[Sports Analyst 1]

CD CD drops.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Oh, man. Hey, damn. You sure?

[Sports Analyst 1]

1,000%.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Damn. Gotta get that thing right.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hell, I mean, the last couple of games, hell, I thought that was Edward Scissorhands out there. Hey, hey, hey. We. I mean, look, we. Y' all see a chat. I mean, Ocho and I, we make a lot of a situation, but y' all see them drops. Yeah, and I know cowboy fans, Y' all see it like, damn, C.D. yeah, come on, C.D. you gotta catch. I'm talking about the ball. Beating him up, Ocho. Yeah, he done got. What happens, Ocho? You know, you drop a couple. You damn do. I got my hands right? Should my.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah, damn.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Like, do I catch it like this? Now you start trying to body catch everything and get in your head, it's gone.

[Sports Analyst 2]

You get it? Get in your head. Listen, listen, I've been there. Hey, listen, I've been there. So I kind of understand what he going through now. It just be one game. It don't be multiple. It don't be back to back to back and a player of his caliber. Of his caliber. Oh, absolutely not. The game was supposed to be over on that catch where it went through. It hit his belly and went through. And he looked at. And he looked at Dak and telling Dak, throw it out there a little bit more so I can run to it. Come on. Come on, now.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Over the middle. He dropped one over the middle, and damn. I mean. And he like. I'm like, bro, I'm glad you got some flexibility. Because when he go down, he all on his neck. After he all break that I'm like, well, damn.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey, hey, you know. You know, listen, in baseball, some of the greatest. Some of the greatest sluggers, they go in the slumps. I'm not making no excuses for him, but somebody like that. That wear that double eight. He wear that double eight for a reason.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Exactly.

[Sports Analyst 2]

He wear that double eight for a reason. So, boom. I had a bad game next week. I don't even know who the Cowboys got. I don't even know who the Cowboys got, but I know next week a foe. Man, get that boy back in the rhythm, man, to get his confidence back. Man, put that thing back on it.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Nah, I' ma let it work on his confidence. I'm gonna go to number three because I know number three gonna put it in his back pocket for me. I know what three go. I know what three gonna do. Come on. Did you see that catch that three made? Hold on which one? The one he made over two. He. He caught one and then 21 tried to swipe it. But here's the problem. The Eagles got What? Because wherever 8th at the ball gonna follow him. Jackson. Yeah, whoever. He guarding the ball, following him. Now I'm trying to figure out. Ocho adore. Jackson sets up inside. He has inside leverage.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

How in the hell you let. You let Pickets cross your damn face? You talk about on the slant on the end route.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Sports Analyst 1]

It was. It was like third. It was like third and 12.

[Sports Analyst 2]

He won. He had to reach up and go half up.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yes. You got inside, Ocho, they put you inside for a reason.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

If he beats you on the go ball, you like coach? I. I mean, what you want me to do? You got me lined up inside.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah, that's on him.

[Sports Analyst 1]

If I line you, Ocho, if I line you up inside, you can't let him cross your face. Ocho, I told. What did I tell you? What? What I've been telling them running backs. I say if a linebacker blitz and you catch him.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

He gonna sit you in the lap of the quarterback and he gonna sack your quarterback. What did the Kobe Dean do to Javonte Williams?

[Sports Analyst 2]

Ocho sat him down back there.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Ocho, you better close that distance. You gotta realize he's coming from distance so he has a head of steam. You sitting there catching him, you better close that distance. You got.

[Sports Analyst 2]

You got to meet him. You gotta. You gotta meet him.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey, the Eagles, I tell you what. A.J. brown got the undivided attention.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey, he had.

[Sports Analyst 2]

He had a. He had a hell of a game today too, huh? They Were. Hey, they were feeding that boy early too.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Did not enough.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey, they were feeding him early.

[Sports Analyst 1]

He should have had. He should have had one of them chase games. He should have had 23 targets. Devonte. Devonte cooking both of them.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Both head chef and Jaylah chef.

[Sports Analyst 1]

It's not gonna be what it was last year. You throw another wide open, guys, because Saquon. Are they dropping that eighth guy down to stop Saquon? That offensive line is not as dominant. Not. Lane Johnson is out. He's probably done for the year because it's reported that he has a Liz Frank. So he's. He's probably. If he got Liz Frank, he's probably done.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Excuse me.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yes.

[Sports Analyst 2]

You're gonna have to educate me. What the hell is a Liz Frank?

[Sports Analyst 1]

It's a ball. It's dancers normally get it. It's a small brush. What is it, like the metatarsal, like in your. In your foot? So this is your foot. It's like right underneath your plate. Because he got the foot already. It's his right foot. So you gonna kick. How you gonna catch? How you gonna sit? Can't he done. If. If what they're saying is true, that he has a Liz Frank injury, right.

[Sports Analyst 2]

I might be able to do some. Do something for him for that.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Well, you might can do something after he have surgery, but you ain't gonna be able to do nothing for it right now. With that being said, Ocho, look, I. I think the thing is the Eagles, you just got to realize. And I. And I said, we've been. I've been saying this. If you think you're gonna win the super bowl, how you won it last year, you're fooling yourself.

[Sports Analyst 2]

No, you can't. You gotta evolve. Huh? You gotta evolve the way you want it last year. Not gonna be able to do it the same way the next year. And obviously, you know what? You know how difficult it is to repeat. Being able to repeat is very difficult in itself.

[Sports Analyst 1]

But I don't know. Minnesota.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey, Unc. I.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Hey, I know it's early. Hey, I'm willing to. Early.

[Sports Analyst 2]

What?

[Sports Analyst 1]

But hey, Early.

[Sports Analyst 2]

What. Ain't no way in hell you supposed to let Sam Donald like that goddamn dough. Now stop playing.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Well, he gone now, so. Ain't no. Ain't no sense. Ain't no sense in closing. Ain't no sense in closing the door now because the cow's already at the barn.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Did you. Were you able to watch that game today?

[Sports Analyst 1]

I would. Did watch it, man.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Please, if you could. If you could turn back the Hands of time. I guarantee they don't let.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I'm sure. Absolutely. They would. Absolutely. Yeah. 1,000. As a matter of fact, Justin Jefferson go pick his ass up from the airport. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Absolutely.

[Sports Analyst 2]

I know my dog Jeddah got to be frustrated, boy. Oh, I know, I know he's frustrated.

[Sports Analyst 1]

From go to putting up those kind of numbers.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I mean, think about what he. Ocho, he was on a historic. I mean, he was talking about the best five year, six year totals in NFL history was on.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

And now it's come to a screeching halt because his quarterback play is inadequate.

[Sports Analyst 2]

God.

[Sports Analyst 1]

It is what it is. I mean, we. We. We're not Ocho. We're not breaking Ocho. We're not interrupting normally scheduled program in the break news.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Right.

[Sports Analyst 1]

If you watch the vacuums play their quarterback, he leaves a lot to be desired. As I said, I know this is his first year starting, although he's a second year player. I'm willing to give him time. I'm even. I'm willing to give him some Runway. But I'm saying what my eyes are telling me right now is that he le. He leaves a lot to be desired. Let's see if he can change my perception of how good I think he can be. Chat. I'll leave that up to y'.

[Narrator/Announcer]

All.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Maybe y' all think he's, you know, hey, listen, it.

[Sports Analyst 2]

It's not up there. It's not up to us. He got to make them believers over there in that organization. Yeah, he got to make his receivers believers too, because obviously, based on what I saw today, the small sample size of the game I was able to catch, boy, that ain't it, right. No, they didn't get it done.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Not even. Not even close to being it.

[Sports Analyst 2]

And the funny thing when I think about it is you still have the same weapons that goddamn Sam Donald had last year. So it really shouldn't be. It shouldn't be that goddamn difficult, even though playing the quarterback position is difficult. But for Sam Donald to make it look like he did last year and then go to Seattle and continue making it look like that, I'm thinking, well, hell, shoot, if he's what he's supposed to be, as high as he got drafted, he should be able to get. Get it done the exact same way I was.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I was concerned. Oh, let me tell you why I was concerned about him is because they really didn't throw the football at Michigan. No, they were running team.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah, they run. Run it right down your mouth.

[Sports Analyst 1]

So o. Whoa, hold on. Whoa, whoa. Hold up, hold up. Run that back. I need you to rephrase that and then press pray.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Oh, my bad, my bad.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah, yeah, I need to.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Come on.

[Sports Analyst 1]

No, no, no, no, no. Just, just rephrase it. Play.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Okay. Run the ball. Damn. Let me see how you say they run the ball against. No, I'm trying to. I say it the right way.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Huh? I don't know. But you. I just need you to rephrase the way what you did. Just rephrase that.

[Sports Analyst 2]

They run. They gonna run the ball downhill.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Okay. Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Okay.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 2]

There you go. My bad.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah. Emmanuel Wilson ran for 107 yards and two touchdowns as the pike packers beat Minnesota by the score of 23 6. Wilson provided all the office Green Bay needed on the day. The packers forced three turnovers, produced five sacks, including two from each from Michael Parson and Devonte Wyatt. The Vikings total four net yards and three turnovers in the second half. The Vikings hadn't finished a half with with as few as 4 yard total yards offense since 1991. Or as far back as Sports Radar. Sports Sportster Radar, Sport Radar research goes. Damn, Ocho, we were kind of having this conversation just a minute ago.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

I'm willing to give him. Look, he missed last year with an injury.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yes.

[Sports Analyst 1]

So he didn't really get a whole lot of reps this year. He missed what, five games with an injury. So that kind of studied his growth. I'm willing to give him some time, but boy, next year, this time, Ocho.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yes.

[Sports Analyst 1]

He'll have to show me a lot to convince me.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, listen, the clock is ticking. Obviously the clock is ticking. You have to prove yourself because if you don't prove yourself next year around this time, then they just go, they gonna move on. You know how this business is. You understand how this game is. They want instant gratification right away. They not. They not waiting around waiting you to develop, waiting to get better. You have to show signs. You have to show signs of improvement fast, quick and in a hurry. If you don't, you got to be able to show some type of potential. In order to do that, you got to be healthy. You got to be on the field.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah, you think about ocho, he was 12 or 19 for 87 yards, two picks, and then they had another 93 yards on the ground. So basically they had 180 yards of total offense, maybe that maybe didn't have that many. When you take the sack yardage into account, they might have had 140 yards. My bad 145, that's crazy.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Man.

[Sports Analyst 1]

You know, I don't know if you're gonna win a whole lot of game unless you sack their quarterback 10 times, unless you take the ball away from them another five times. It's hard. Or.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Or.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Or you get pick sixes, scooping scores or return touchdowns. Ocho, in the special teams game, you not winning no game with 145 yards of total offense unless you get a punt return, a kick return, you block a punt, something unforeseen, right? But 145, Damn, that's embarrassing. I mean, you got Addison, you got Jetta, and you got Naylor.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Oh, and you got Hawkins. You got Thielen in there, too.

[Sports Analyst 1]

No. Yeah. Feeling. And you got Hawkinson, and you got Aaron Jones, who could not. There is no excuse. Hey, that's no excuse.

[Sports Analyst 2]

That's. That's crazy. Boy, I know. Jett is hot.

[Sports Analyst 1]

This is what Justin Jefferson said. It gets frustrating when they keep saying the same fixes are coming each week, but nothing is different the following week. It's frustrating. It's frustrating to lose. It's frustrating to be up here saying the same thing every single week, expecting things to change the following week, and we're still in the same spot and we just got to figure it out.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah, I mean, he's saying all the right things. He's saying all the right things to us in front of the camera, but behind closed doors, to those that he know, those that he trusts, that conversation is completely different.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Throw my whole meal in the trash, completely different.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Oh, that's. Hey, can you imagine, though? I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm just thinking about it, you know, how bad you have to be to have Justin Jefferson, Addison, Thielen, Hawkinson. You got Aaron Jones back there running the ball to take some of the pressure off of you. Even if you are one dimensional, you can be able to throw the ball with them. Mother. Excuse me. With those weapons. Come on now. The same. The same Sam Donald that's with the New York jets that they didn't want anymore. The same Sam Donald that with the Carolina Panthers that he didn't want because he would, but he went to Minnesota and looked like a goddamn man. Come on now. Stop playing. If you really are who you say you are based on your draft status, based on where you were picked in the draft, supposed to be the franchise quarterback, eh? But it's looking like a hit. It's looking like a heavy miss. And I say that with all due respect.

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