BEST OF NFL Week 13 Part 1: Jerry Jeudy HEATED at Shedeur on Browns sideline, the END for Tomlin and Rodgers after this FAILED season

Summary

Club Shay Shay — BEST OF NFL Week 13, Part 1

Host: Shannon Sharpe & Guests
Date: December 3, 2025
Episode Focus: Heated Jerry Jeudy–Shedeur Sanders sideline moment, the struggles of Mike Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers, and why the Panthers deserve more respect

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the biggest NFL stories and debates from Week 13, with Shannon Sharpe joined by Bucky Brooks and Laquan Jones. The discussion covers the viral sideline tension between Jerry Jeudy and Shedeur Sanders, whether the Steelers and Jets have reached the end of the road with Mike Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers, and a case for the surprisingly competitive Carolina Panthers.

Throughout, the tone is direct, candid, and often playful, as the hosts react to the week’s drama and offer perspective from former players’ points of view.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Jeudy–Shedeur Sideline Confrontation (03:00–13:00)

• Situation: Viral clip surfaces of Broncos WR Jerry Jeudy and Browns QB Shedeur Sanders visibly animated on the sideline.
• Media Perception: The hosts critique how such sideline moments are overanalyzed, despite such tense exchanges being common in football.
• Analysis:
  • Bucky Brooks explains the importance of body language:

    “There was a situation on the sideline… I was always conscious of being on the sideline and getting animated. Because how is that going to be perceived by people watching at home when the cameras pick it up?” (02:35)

  • Laquan Jones relates how modern NFL sidelines are under constant scrutiny with “375 cameras out there now” (03:14).
  • The consensus: This looked like normal player-to-player debate, likely regarding a play on the tablet.

    “That's the quarterback and receiver talk now… that happens all the time.” (04:04 - Laquan Jones)

  • Both agree the reaction was overblown, emphasizing more context was needed before passing serious judgment.
  • Bucky:

    “My grandfather used to say, boy, you don't have enough information to have an opinion. We don't have enough information to have an opinion.” (10:45)

2. Shedeur Sanders’ Media Savvy (04:40–07:44)

• Reporter Tries to ‘Trip Up’ Shedeur:
  • Shedeur faced questions about Browns coach Kevin Stefanski’s aggressive 4th-down calls.
  • Shedeur’s mature, diplomatic response stood out:

    “We're not gonna be here… and ever point, figure out no coach or do anything like that. That's extremely disrespectful, and that's not even in my place. I'm thankful for being out there.” (05:05)

• Hosts on His Maturity:
  • Laquan notes Shedeur doesn’t sound like Brady or Brees but is “polished” and “answers questions his way in a way that we all understand, and it’s the correct way.” (05:29)
  • Bucky highlights his upbringing and professionalism:

    “His dad has drilled in him, drilled in him… You always take the high road. Never throw anybody under the bus.” (06:07)

3. The Browns’ and Quarterback Challenges (07:44–09:03)

• Structural Issues:
  • Laquan laments the lack of offensive weapons for the Browns, saying only a few elite QBs could thrive given their current roster.
  • Bucky stresses the need for “playmakers outside of him [Shedeur],” comparing weapon-rich offenses around the league.

4. Carolina Panthers: The NFL’s Most Overlooked Team (19:00–34:34)

• Big Win Against the Rams:
  • Panthers defeat the Rams, with Bryce Young showing progress (15/23, 206 yards, 2 TDs).
  • Laquan celebrates being right about the Panthers since August:

    “Everybody laughed at me in August… I told y’all, I understood what the Panthers were doing… that momentum, that confidence… it was going to carry over.” (20:58)

• Comparisons and Doubts:
  • Panthers’ record matches the Lions’ and bests the Cowboys’, yet “they just don't have the hype train behind them.” (24:04)
  • The hosts criticize the football media for overlooking Carolina due to past failures.
  • Discussion on late-season bye weeks and their odd placement for playoff-bound teams (24:26–27:00).

5. NFC Playoff Picture & Rams’ Flaws (19:00–23:37)

• Bears now lead the NFC, Rams drop due to a turnover-plagued outing by Stafford (3 TOs including a pick six).
• Humorous analysis: “If you’re late on the out route, it’s a reservation. He call ahead, they gonna have your table set up for six.” (19:27 - Bucky Brooks)

6. Packers, Jets & Aaron Rodgers’ Future (38:29–45:00)

• Rodgers Struggling:
  • Returning from injury, playing with a cast on his wrist, Rodgers has among the lowest output games of his career.
  • Playful banter about cold weather football and aging QBs:

    “An old Aaron Rodgers can’t elevate a team… when old people, they got money and they live up north… they go to Florida, they go to Arizona… lubricating them bones.” (41:20 - Bucky)

• Rodgers’ Comments on Film Study:
  • Rodgers calls out teammates for not showing up to film:

    “When there’s film sessions, everybody shows up. And when I check to a route, you do the right route… John and I weren’t on the same page.” (48:34)

  • Discussion of player accountability and locker room culture follows, with both Bucky and Laquan stunned by any player skipping film sessions.

7. Steelers’ Downward Trend & Mike Tomlin’s Job Security (46:04–57:17)

• Tomlin’s Longevity and Frustration:
  • Laquan wonders: “Are the frustrations gonna grow with Mike Tomlin coaching, being that they’re losing?”
  • Bucky delivers NFL history:

    “The Steelers have had three coaches in 57 years. Normally, they allow the coaches to leave on their own.” (46:53)

  • Emphasizes Steelers' lack of playoff success: “They haven’t won a playoff game in almost a decade. 2016 was the last time.” (47:11)
• Player Effort Issues:
  • Receivers skipping film, lack of urgency noted as a cultural problem.

8. Cam Heyward vs. Josh Allen “Knee Incident” (57:17–61:37)

• Quote from Cam Heyward:

  “Just pisses me off… as a quarterback, they’re protected, but I’m not.” (57:48)

• Hosts’ Response:
  • Bucky and Laquan offer old-school advice to defensive linemen:

    “If somebody do something to me on the field, it’s my job, I got four quarters to be able to get them back… that’s it. I’m not running to no media.” (60:02 - Laquan)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On how sideline outbursts get twisted:

  “My grandfather used to say, boy, you don't have enough information to have an opinion.” (10:45 - Bucky Brooks)

• On Shedeur Sanders’ media handling:

  “He’s mastered that part of saying the right thing, the tone in which he says it… I don’t have a problem with what he said. They just have to get better.” (06:07 - Bucky Brooks)

• On Panthers’ breakout:

  “They just don’t have the hype… But at the end of the day, they’re just as good with a chance to win their goddamn division.” (24:04 - Laquan Jones)

• On taking film seriously:

  “There’s not a meeting [the quarterback] could have that I wouldn’t show up for.” (50:45 - Bucky Brooks)

• On football retaliation:

  “Sack him and drop all 300 pounds on his ass. All dead weight.” (58:50 - Bucky Brooks)
  “I'm not running to no media talking about, oh, he did… Let’s play ball, man. You know what to do. Get him back.” (60:02 - Laquan Jones)

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Key Segment Timestamps

• Jeudy–Shedeur Sideline Incident: 02:35–13:00
• Shedeur Sanders Press Conference: 04:40–07:44
• Browns/Quarterbacks/Team Weapons: 07:44–09:03
• Carolina Panthers Respect & Analysis: 19:00–34:34
• NFC Playoff/NFC Standings: 19:00–23:37
• Aaron Rodgers, Film Study, Jets’ Challenges: 38:29–45:00
• Steelers Slide & Mike Tomlin’s Future: 46:04–57:17
• Cam Heyward–Josh Allen (Knee Incident): 57:17–61:37

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Summary

This Week 13 roundtable delivered both strong NFL insight and entertaining banter. The hosts balanced sharp takes with shared locker room wisdom: overhyped sideline moments, Shedeur's polish under pressure, Carolina’s long-awaited respect, and old-school calls for player accountability. The episode is a must-listen for fans wanting both context and charisma from their football coverage.

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Hello, it's your favorite sports funk here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you, so please subscribe or you're going to make oo cryo back to. To. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a situation on the sideline. Oo that it seemed like. And this is why I was always conscious, Ocho, of being on the sideline and getting it animated. Because how is that going to be perceived by the people in the stands or people that's watching at home when the cameras pick it up? Because the camera's gonna pick it up when you start doing this right here, Ocho, and you start doing that. You already know the camera.

[Laquan Jones]

Yeah, absolutely. Hey, uncle, it's three. It's 375 cameras out there now.

[Bucky Brooks]

Absolutely.

[Laquan Jones]

Wait, hold on. I didn't see that situation. Knock. I must have missed that.

[Bucky Brooks]

Yeah, I think it was, it was the start, I think it was the start of the fourth quarter, Ojo.

[Laquan Jones]

And.

[Bucky Brooks]

I, I don't know, but it was the start of the fourth quarter.

[Laquan Jones]

Who was it? See, I was, See, I was, I.

[Bucky Brooks]

Was at cigar bar and, and it was Judy and, and Shador. And at first Shador was sitting down and then Shadour stood up. So I don't, like I said, I was just always cautious, knowing I couldn't. You couldn't hide it because there's a fans that's going to be it, especially on your side. And then the camera's going to pick it up. As you start to get animated, you start to do stuff like.

[Laquan Jones]

Okay, okay, I understand. That's, that's the quarterback and receiver talk now. You know, you know how that go. And sometimes it gets animated like that. And we, we've seen that. Well, you know how people take it. They act like they've never seen that a day in their life, you know, with a quarterback and a receiver, you know, being animated, especially in game. But I, I, I knew exactly what you're talking about. I didn't even see it. And I can already, I can already pitch it in my head. Miscommunication, something, somebody runs something wrong or a ball be. That happens all the time. But. Okay, I got you. I got you.

[Bucky Brooks]

Yeah. Shador Sanders was asked to keep trying to Tricky Mocho or something about Kevin Stefanski. Let's take a listen.

[Laquan Jones]

What he tried to trip him up.

[Bucky Brooks]

Huh? I think those four and one, those.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

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[Bucky Brooks]

And did you like Kevin having the.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Aggressiveness there even backed up in your char.

[Bucky Brooks]

I mean, first. That's a rude question to ask if I'm. If I think, you know, it was a great call by my coach. You know, like the aggression, not. You like the call. But do you like. I like being out there playing. So. So whatever that comes with. It comes with, you know, like, you know, we. We not gonna be here and ever point, figure out no coach or do anything like that. You know, that's extremely disrespectful, and that's not even in my place. So I'm thankful for being out there, honestly, and I'm thankful that he trusts us as an offense to be able to go out there and be able to execute. Did we execute? No, we didn't. But, you know, I'm just thankful that we have that trust.

[Laquan Jones]

Hey, I mean, listen, I understand it. And you know what? Honestly, it's up to Shador. The reporters are going to ask whatever they can ask and see what they can get out of. It's his job to be able to answer those questions correctly and be politically correct. Obviously, take a forest coach and not throw his coach under the bus, and that's pretty much it. So he's well versed in that area and he's really polished, especially when it comes to talking to the media. He might not answer the questions like a Tom Brady or Drew Brees or Peyton Manning, but he answers them his way in a way that we all understand, and it's the correct way.

[Bucky Brooks]

He answered the question. He answers the questions just like you expect a quarterback would. They're very PC, very bland. Now, what he did do is something that probably other quarterbacks wouldn't do, is that he says, I don't appreciate you trying to. You know, that's rude. Other quarterbacks would have probably said, look, the coach. We run the play that the coaches call. Whatever sent in is my job. It's our job to make it work, to execute whatever's called. It didn't work. I got no problem. Like you said, he got no problem with what the coach called, and that's how he should answer the call. You have to understand, he's been a quarterback his whole life. His dad has been an NFL player. His dad has drilled in him, drilled in him, drilled in him. You always take the high road. You never throw anybody under the bus, be it player or coach. So he understands that because he's been groomed by, to play this position. And a part of being groomed to play this position is know how to speak before and after the games. That is if that is one of the most important. Now, nothing tops playing on the field, obviously, we know that. But what you say, how you say it after and before is very, very important. And he's mastered that. He's mastered that part of saying the right thing, the tone in which he says it, you know, he, he like, hey, that, that, you know, I want to be out there. Yeah, obviously. So I, I don't have a problem with what he said. He just. They just have to get better.

[Laquan Jones]

They do.

[Bucky Brooks]

They just have to get better.

[Laquan Jones]

It's hard, right, because we are all expecting him to come in and just do something phenomenal. And there's so much little for us the fans get to work with. And I don't mean that in a disrespectful way, in just the way the team is built in general. There's only so much you can do with what you have, you know, in that room, especially offensively. And it's just like, it's hard. It's hard. I don't know if there are maybe one or two, maybe three quarterbacks in the NFL that you can take off their team right now and put them on the Browns and they can look any better than what they do right now based on what you have at your disposal as far as weapons is concerned. It's very, very difficult. It's going to take time. It's going to take time because it's going to take pieces. It's going to take hella drafting really good drafting, really good drafting and key off season acquisitions before we see any type of change.

[Bucky Brooks]

You got to get some playmakers. You got to get playmakers outside of him and that's what you have. You look at the quarterbacks that, that consistently, you know, look at that. What does that have? Oh, look at Jalen. Hurts. Look what he got. Look at, look at the club. I mean, you, you gotta go get, you gotta go get players that can make plays.

[Laquan Jones]

Can I, can I say something real quick? Can you, can you imagine if you had two number ones over there in Cleveland? Can you imagine?

[Bucky Brooks]

You know, I got a great one for yo. How does Bryce Young look this year? What?

[Laquan Jones]

What? Oh, what up?

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The man got benched last year. They go get him some Let me sit down.

[Laquan Jones]

Let me sit down. Bucket.

[Bucky Brooks]

I.

[Laquan Jones]

Man, what? I ain't gonna say that. I'm Wait till. I'm gonna wait till we get to the Panthers, but go ahead, Chad.

[Bucky Brooks]

What do y' all want us to say? I said it is a bad look when a player and a quarterback or any two players get on and it becomes animated. What do you want us to say? We don't know what was said. Nobody said anything that sure. Door didn't mention it. Did Judy say what was said? Judy said. Did we know what Judy said? So what do y' all want us to do? I've said it's a bad look when two teammates on the sideline because the fans see it, and the quarterback's gonna see it when two players start to get animated. Even if I'm doing this and I don't say nothing, y' all gonna say, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Got. Got upset with Ocho last night because of the animation. I don't know what you want us to say. We don't dodge topics. We don't dodge heavy conversation. But what do you want Ocho and I to say when we don't know what was being said? We don't know what caused the animation. The animation. So what do you want us to say? Just to go out there on the limit just arbitrarily when we don't know what was said or what was being discussed?

[Laquan Jones]

Can somebody send me the clip on Twitter? Somebody, Anybody. Got it? Send me the clip so I can get a better. Better understanding on what y' all talking about.

[Bucky Brooks]

I'm gonna give it to you in simple terms. My grandfather used to say, boy, you don't have enough information to have an opinion.

[Laquan Jones]

Yeah.

[Bucky Brooks]

We don't have enough information to have an opinion. So y' all just want me and Ocho just to blow Judy up when we don't know what was said? You want us to blow Shador up because he stood up? I don't know what you want from us. Ash just sent it to you.

[Laquan Jones]

Oh.

[Bucky Brooks]

So I. I don't. I don't know. I don't know what y' all want me to. What y' all want me to say, because y' all know I don't really have a problem talking about anything y' all say. I talk too much about everything. So now I. I just basically said it. It's a bad look when a player becomes animated on the sideline because the crowd thinks it's gonna. It's a confrontation. The cameras pick it up, and then the Outside, people at home just watching, thinks it's a confrontation. I said it's a bad look. Outside of that, I can't offer any more because I don't know what was said.

[Laquan Jones]

Oh, okay, I saw it now. I saw it. Now they look at. You heard me. They looking at the tablet. They looking at the tablet, looking at something that happened in the previous series and the previous down. And there's a disagreement on what they see based on. Based on whatever play it is they looking at on the tablet. That's all. Yeah, that's all. That's normal. That's normal, Chad. I mean, for those. I just saw it, but that's normal. That's normal.

[Bucky Brooks]

But I'm saying, because they got so animated, people are going to look at. Oh, yeah, you see two people starting. I don't know what they're saying now, but if I see two people getting animated at the shopping, I'm like, okay, what. What's happening? Somebody's upset about something. I don't know. So maybe Judy or. Or Shador can offer more insight tomorrow. Because I'm sure. I'm surprised no one asked Shador about it or did it. I don't know if anybody. Or there's any reports of somebody asking Judy about it. So I don't know.

[Laquan Jones]

I mean, that's. To me, that's really not even a story. I mean, if you've been around a game long enough, you see it all the time. Especially with quarterbacks and receivers where there are small disagreements. You know, when something doesn't go right or a quarterback misses a throw or a receiver drops the ball, you come to the sideline and sometimes you get animated. I mean, especially based on what I'm seeing right here. They looking at the tablet, Judy saying something, and Shador stands up and says another thing. No, that's not what I saw. That's not what you see. I mean, so, so, so indifferent. You know, the. The receiver sees it in one perspective and the quarterback sees another way.

[Bucky Brooks]

All I'm saying is this. I tried my absolute best to never get animated, because on the outside, you don't know what I'm saying. You don't know what seven was saying. So it's just best to. Whatever disagreement we're gonna have, we have it behind closed doors. Because me getting animated or him getting animated, this is what's gonna happen. Amm0911 14 Ocho talk about how Judy didn't have no smoke for Dylan, Gabriel or Flacco, but somehow want to be animated and vocal towards the door. Ooh.

[Laquan Jones]

What happened? Huh?

[Bucky Brooks]

I don't know. Mc Robinson 6375. At least next week can be a fun matchup. Shador versus Cam Ward.

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Oh, Panthers, talk to me now. The upset of the day. The Rams enter the game with the NFC's best record, but drops now the team that has the NFC's best record, the Chicago Bears, who hold the tiebreaker in the conference. The Rams are still a game up on the 8 and 4 Eagles and also head to hold the head to head tiebreaker. So right now it's the Bears, the Rams, the Eagles, the Bucks, Seahawks packed, and the 49ers. The Lions are currently out of the playoffs. If the playoffs were to start today. Matthew Stafford kind of look like the Detroit Matthew Stafford. The turnover. The turnover was what did him in. He threw a pick six. He was laid on the out route. What we say, Chad, if you laid on the out route, it's a reservation. He call ahead, they gonna have your table set up for six. He turned the ball over. He by himself had three turnovers. That was the difference in the ball game. He was 18 or 28, 243, two touchdowns, two interceptions. Strip sack that was allowed.

[Laquan Jones]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I talk about my Panthers. I had to take that roll out my mouth real quick because I was stuttering a little bit. Hey, Chad. Bryce Young, the Carolina Panthers that I said would be the dark horse in the team to watch this season will surprise everybody. Bryce Young Today, he was 15 for 23, TDs, 206 yards. Hubbard, 17 carries for 93. Jalen Coker. Way to make your presence felt today, boy. Every week is somebody different. He was four. He was four. He had four for 74 with a TD. Hey.

[Bucky Brooks]

McMillan had one, 43 on a touchdown. Chuba Hubbard, two for 41 on the touchdown.

[Laquan Jones]

What I told you about them Panthers, huh? Everybody laughed at me in August. I remember the date. August 25th, if I'm not mistaken, August 25th. I told y', all, I understood what the Panthers were doing. When I saw what they did in the draft, when I saw what they did in the off season, and understanding how Bryce Young played going towards the end of the season, I already knew coming next year, that momentum, that confidence that Bryce had after he got benched, it was going to carry over into the following year. Including with the weapons. They going to be the goddamn team to watch and the team to beat. I enjoy it. And I'm gonna say it again. Like I said way back then, y' all boys keep pounding. Keep on pounding. I'm not even. I'm not even. I'm not even gonna curse.

[Bucky Brooks]

You remember the game that he out?

[Laquan Jones]

Who did he.

[Bucky Brooks]

Who did he play? Was it the Falcons that he went to the Falcons? He threw for 400 yards. 454 yards. Y' all keep saying it's one game, but right now he's. They're seven and six.

[Laquan Jones]

Oh, wait, who said it was one game?

[Bucky Brooks]

They won the same number game. They won the same number of game as the Detroit Lions. They won one more game than the Cowboys, and they beat the Cowboys. So what. What. What are we saying?

[Laquan Jones]

Somebody in the chat talking slick talk about one game or just.

[Bucky Brooks]

Yeah, yeah, they talk about Bryce Young.

[Laquan Jones]

Y' all better do your homework. Do your homework now. Come on, man. What you talking about, man? I told.

[Bucky Brooks]

They did it. Look, Brian Forbes Jr. For the Rams. You owe. You. You owe your team, bro.

[Laquan Jones]

Emmanuel, you owe Emmanuel Forbes.

[Bucky Brooks]

Brian Ford, I think Forbes Jr. For the. The Rams.

[Laquan Jones]

The DB E. Forbes. Yeah, that's Emmanuel. Emmanuel Forbes.

[Bucky Brooks]

He owe Ocho. He. Oh, fourth down, touchdown. Fourth down, touchdown. You can't give up touchdowns on fourth down. You can't. I mean, I thought it was rerun trusting that truck on what's happening now.

[Laquan Jones]

But the chat ain't gonna know that. That reference.

[Bucky Brooks]

They don't know.

[Laquan Jones]

Ain't nobody old enough. Ain't nobody in the chat old enough to know about what's happening.

[Bucky Brooks]

Yeah, but. No, no, the Carolina's playing really well. They got a chance to win that division.

[Laquan Jones]

Oh, yeah, Absolutely. Absolutely not only.

[Bucky Brooks]

Cause they got the same. They have the same number of wins as Tampa, so. And they get Tampa again, so they could easily win that division.

[Laquan Jones]

And I think people are overlooking the Panthers this year. They're winning games, man. What the hell?

[Bucky Brooks]

Go ahead, Elgato.

[Laquan Jones]

Can you still hear me, though?

[Bucky Brooks]

I hear you.

[Laquan Jones]

I don't know why people are overlooking the Panthers. Maybe because they've been bad in the past, so they're not giving them the respect, their due respect because of who they are. But when you break it down in perspective on the number of wins, they've.

[Bucky Brooks]

Had.

[Laquan Jones]

Same records as the Cowboys, they just don't have the hype behind. They don't have the hype train behind them. So the only people that are talking about them are those that are actually Carolina Panther Fans, but at the end of the day, when you bring everything to light, as a whole, they're just as good with a chance to win their goddamn division.

[Bucky Brooks]

They must be. They on there. They got to be on there. Coming on their bye week. This week. They got. They got 13 games already played, so they. They got to be on. Coming on the bye week, like with the 49ers or something.

[Laquan Jones]

How the hell they gonna be on the bye week in the season? Almost over, Ocho.

[Bucky Brooks]

They seven to six. Everybody else nine and three, ten and two.

[Laquan Jones]

God damn.

[Bucky Brooks]

Honestly, they only buy a week with the 49ers. The 49ers, bye week this week, too.

[Laquan Jones]

Hey, honestly, if I done play this many games, I wouldn't.

[Bucky Brooks]

I would.

[Laquan Jones]

I would. I wouldn't even want no bye week this damn late in the season. Honestly, that Me personally.

[Bucky Brooks]

What you want?

[Laquan Jones]

Huh?

[Bucky Brooks]

What you want?

[Laquan Jones]

No, I say I wouldn't want no bye week this late.

[Bucky Brooks]

You want to keep playing? Yeah. Yeah, I want my week off now.

[Laquan Jones]

We playing too well to take a week off. Forget that. The bye week. We should. They should have had they bye week. Week six, week seven.

[Bucky Brooks]

That's a lot of games to play throughout. I mean, just think if you had. Like you said, if you had your bye week, week three, week four, week five, and now you gotta.

[Laquan Jones]

No, I. I said no.

[Bucky Brooks]

You know what, Ocho? Get that. Get refreshed. Get your mind recharged. Hey, you got a week off. Get out of here. Hey, if you need. Hey, get your. Get your day of treatment, then get out of here. Go somewhere nice and warm. Take the Mrs. Somewhere. Take Mama somewhere. Hey, ask your in laws or your mom, them parents, can they watch the kids, you and old lady dip dang what I did. But I'm saying that's what y' all should do. We wasn't getting no week off, though, man. We got Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

[Laquan Jones]

Yeah, same, same.

[Bucky Brooks]

Yeah, we ain't getting no. With no time off like that. But no, Carolina's playing good. They ran the ball 40 times for 164 yard. Chuba Hubbard was running extremely hard today. Rico Dowdle, 18 for 58. Didn't have a. A big time day, but when the Rams tried to get the ball back, they like, nah, we ain't gonna get back to you. Stop us if you can. And they couldn't. So hold on. But like you said, Ocho, the team that you said, the Chicago Bears, they're the number one seed, and the Carolina Panthers have an absolute chance to win their division and make the playoffs. Oh, yeah. Bills beat the Pittsburgh Steelers by the score of 2067. Aaron Rodgers, playing with a cast to protect the fractured left wrist, completed just 10 of 21 attempts, 117 yards, his third. Oh, Panthers, talk to me now. The upset of the day. The Rams entered the game with the NFC's best record, but drops now the team that has the NFC's best record, the Chicago Bears, who hold the tiebreaker in the conference. The Rams are still a game up on the 8 and 4 Eagles and also had to hold the head to head tiebreaker. So right now it's the Bears, the Rams, the Eagles, the Bucks, Seahawks, PAT and the 49ers. The Lions are currently out of the playoffs. If the playoffs were to start today. Matthew Stafford kind of looked like the Detroit Matthew Stafford. The turnover was on Joe. The Turner was what did him in. He threw a pick six. He was late on the out route. What we say, Chad, if you laid on the out route, it's a reservation. He called ahead. They're gonna have your table set up for six. He turned the ball over. He by himself had three turnovers. That was the difference in the ball game. He was 18 or 28, 243, two touchdowns, two interceptions, a strip sack that was allowed.

[Laquan Jones]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I talk about my Panthers. I did. I did. I had to take that. I had to take that roll out my mouth real quick because I was stuttering a little bit. Hey, Chad. Bryce Young, the Carolina Panthers that I said would be the dark horse in the team to watch this season will surprise everybody. Bryce Young Today, he was 15 for 23, TDs, 206 yards. Hubbard, 17 carries for 93. Jalen Coker. Way to make your presence felt today, boy. Every week is somebody different. Uncle. He was 4. He was 4. He had 4 for 74 with a TD. Hey.

[Bucky Brooks]

McMillan had 1 for 43 on a touchdown. Chuba Hubbard, 2 for 41 on a touchdown.

[Laquan Jones]

What I told you about them Panthers, huh? Everybody laughed at me in August. I remember the date. August 25th, if I'm not mistaken. August 25th. I told y' all, I understood what the Panthers were doing. When I saw what they did in the draft, when I saw what they did in the off season, and understanding how Bryce Young played going towards the end of the season, I already knew coming next year, that momentum, that confidence that Bryce had after he got benched, it was going to carry over into the following year, including with the weapons. They gonna be the goddamn team to watch. And the team to beat. I enjoy it. And I'm gonna say it again. Like I said way back then, y' all boys keep pounding. Keep on pounding. I'm not even. I'm not even. I'm not even.

[Bucky Brooks]

You remember the game that he out?

[Laquan Jones]

Who did he.

[Bucky Brooks]

Who did he play with it? The Falcons. That he went to the Falcons. He threw for 454 yards. Y' all keep saying it's one game, but right now he's. There's 76.

[Laquan Jones]

Wait, who said it was one game?

[Bucky Brooks]

They won the same number game. They won the same number of game as the Detroit Lions. They won one more game than the Cowboys, and they beat the Cowboys. So what. What. What are we saying?

[Laquan Jones]

Somebody in the chat talking slick talk about one game. Oh, just. Yeah, yeah.

[Bucky Brooks]

They talk about Bryce Young.

[Laquan Jones]

Y' all better do your homework. Do your homework now. Come on, man. What you talking about, man? I told.

[Bucky Brooks]

They did it. Look, Brian, for Forbes Jr. For the Rams. You. Oh, you. You owe your team, bro.

[Laquan Jones]

Emmanuel, you owe Emmanuel Forbes.

[Bucky Brooks]

Brian, for. I think Forbes Jr. For the. The Rams.

[Laquan Jones]

The DB. Yeah, that's Emmanuel. Emmanuel Forbes.

[Bucky Brooks]

He owe Ocho.

[Laquan Jones]

He.

[Bucky Brooks]

Oh, fourth down, touchdown. Fourth down, touchdown. You can't give up touchdowns on fourth down. You can't. I mean, I thought it was Rerun trusting that truck on what's happening now.

[Laquan Jones]

But the chat ain't gonna know that. That reference.

[Bucky Brooks]

They don't know.

[Laquan Jones]

Ain't nobody old enough. Ain't nobody in the chat old enough to know about what's happening.

[Bucky Brooks]

Yeah, but. No, no, the Carolina's playing really well. They got a chance to win that division.

[Laquan Jones]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Not only they.

[Bucky Brooks]

Because they got the same. They have the same number of wins as Tampa, so. And they get Tampa again, so they could. They could easily win that division.

[Laquan Jones]

And I. I think I. I think people are overlooking the Panthers this year. They're winning games, man. What the hell?

[Bucky Brooks]

Go ahead. Elgato.

[Laquan Jones]

Can you still hear me, though?

[Bucky Brooks]

I hear you.

[Laquan Jones]

I don't. I don't know why people are overlooking the Panthers. Maybe because they've been bad in the past, so they're not giving them the respect, their due respect because of who they are. But when you break it down in perspective on the number of wins they've had in. In where they same records as the Cowboys, they just don't have the hype behind. They don't have the hype train behind them. So the only people that are talking about them are those that are actually Carolina Panther fans. But at the end of the day, when you bring everything to light. As a whole, they're just as good with a chance to win their goddamn division.

[Bucky Brooks]

They must be. They on there. They got to be on there coming on their bye week. This week. They got. They got 13 games already played, so they. They got to be on. Coming on the bye week, like with the 49ers or something.

[Laquan Jones]

How the hell they gonna be on the bye week in the season?

[Bucky Brooks]

Almost over, Ocho Day seven to six, everybody else nine and three, ten and two.

[Laquan Jones]

God damn.

[Bucky Brooks]

Honestly, they only buy a week with the 49ers. The 49ers by a week of this week, too.

[Laquan Jones]

Hey, honestly, if I didn't play this many games, I wouldn't.

[Bucky Brooks]

I would.

[Laquan Jones]

I would. I wouldn't even want no bye week this damn late in the season. Honestly, that me personally.

[Bucky Brooks]

What you want?

[Laquan Jones]

Huh?

[Bucky Brooks]

What you want?

[Laquan Jones]

No, I said I wouldn't want no bye week this late.

[Bucky Brooks]

You want to keep playing?

[Laquan Jones]

Hell yeah.

[Bucky Brooks]

I want my week off now.

[Laquan Jones]

We playing too well to take a week off. Forget that.

[Bucky Brooks]

The bye week.

[Laquan Jones]

We should. They should have had they bye week. Week six, week seven.

[Bucky Brooks]

That's a lot of games to play throughout. I mean, just think if you had. Like you said, if you had your bye week, week three, week four, week five, and now you gotta.

[Laquan Jones]

No, I. I said no.

[Bucky Brooks]

You know what, Ocho? Get that. Get refreshed, get your mind recharged. Hey, you got a week off. Get out of here. Hey, if you need. Hey, get your. Get your day of treatment, then get out of here. Go somewhere nice and warm. Take the Mrs. Somewhere. Take Mama somewhere. Hey, ask your in laws or your mom, them parents, can they watch the kids, you and old lady dip dang what I did. But I'm saying that's what y' all should do. We weren't getting no week off though, man. We got Friday, Saturday, Sunday had Monday.

[Laquan Jones]

Yeah, same, same.

[Bucky Brooks]

Yeah, we ain't getting no. With no time off like that. But no, Carolina's playing good. They ran the ball 40 times for 164 yard. Chuba Hub was running extremely hard today. Rico Dowdle, 18 for 58. Didn't have a big time day, but when the Rams tried to get the ball back, they like, nah, we ain't gonna get back to you. Stop us if you can. And they could. But like you said, oo the team that you said, the Chicago Bears, they're the number one seed. And the Carolina Panthers have an absolute chance to win their division and make the playoffs.

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

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[Bucky Brooks]

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[Bucky Brooks]

Bills beat the Pittsburgh Steelers by the score of 26 to 7. Aaron Rodgers, playing with a cast to protect the fractured left wrist, completed just 10 of 21 attempts, 117 yards, his third lowest total at any game where he's through, thrown at least 20 passes. His 10 completions were also the fewest in any game with 20 pass attempts. He also was strip sacked. Bust his nose. Aaron Rodgers turned 42 on Tuesday. Man, Joey Bo I thought Joey Bosa saw it in half. I thought he liked the magician. You know how they saw the.

[Laquan Jones]

He got him good, huh? He got him real. Hey, that blindsided. That blast. That blindsided. Deadly.

[Bucky Brooks]

That hurt.

[Laquan Jones]

There's a reason those details. There's a reason the left tackles make so much goddamn money. I know you protecting that blind side, but I know Debo. I know Debo gonna be mad again. I know Debo gonna be mad again. He gonna be hot. Because why? I mean the defense again. The defense again. You had the. You have the highest paid defensive squad in the NFL. And yeah, you ain't playing like it.

[Bucky Brooks]

And they got ran through. They got ran through like foreign water. Through a tourist.

[Laquan Jones]

Like nothing.

[Bucky Brooks]

250 look, somebody can throw for 500, you know, hey, I can run a couple trick plays. Don't try to do a st of go. I can do all this. But when somebody line up and they run the ball 51 times for 250 yards, They just like. They just walked up to you and hit you in your face, basically. Is that what you.

[Laquan Jones]

That's what it is. That's what running the ball is. Moving a man against his will. No tricks, no gimmicks. Straight downhill. A gap, B gap, C gap, toss. That's it.

[Bucky Brooks]

Hey, Aaron Rodgers said, man, you know what? I'm done. I. I don't see a scenario where he come back this year, Ocho. He taking a beating, Ocho. And the thing is, is that it's cold in Pittsburgh, Ocho. It's cold in Baltimore. It's cold in Cincinnati. It's cold in Cleveland. So, you know, as you get older, Ocho, if you go back and look at Aaron Rodgers, he played his best games late last year in Detroit. I mean, in the Jets. Where were they playing? Miami. Where were they playing? Jacksonville. Warm weather. But.

[Laquan Jones]

But. You know what I mean, He's. He's been in the. He's been in the cold so long down there in Green Bay. I know even though he was younger, he should still be okay and be able to muster up whatever it is he needs to muster up to still be able to perform at a high level. I mean, even. Even an old Aaron Rodgers is still. Now, you know, I think people, let's. Let's not be mistaken. Even an old Aaron Rodgers is better than half the goddamn league at the quarterback position.

[Bucky Brooks]

But an old Aaron Rodgers can't elevate a team. No, no, no contending team. And that's the thing. And so when old people, they got money and they live up north where they do, Ocho, they go to Florida, they go to Arizona. They go to be in that cold weather. They go to be in that hot weather. Cause it's good. It's lubricating them bones.

[Laquan Jones]

Did you just try to. Did you just try to throw something? You trying to insinuate Aaron Rodgers coming to the Dolphins?

[Bucky Brooks]

No, I'm trying to say he's for. He's about to.

[Laquan Jones]

Oh, my bad, my bad. I thought you were just saying.

[Bucky Brooks]

Okay, you remember how when you were in your 30s, as we started to age, those licks hurt. Imagine. Think about it, Ocho, when you retired at 34. Now imagine I'm gonna put eight more years on it, and you taking those licks, those licks hurt when you was in your 30s, imagine what they feel like. I promise you, a 40 year old body was not meant to take those guys. I only know the body was meant to play football. There was nobody football when God made the body. He's like, you know what? I'll make this kind of to withstand this kind of punishment.

[Laquan Jones]

You know what's funny is you say withstand that kind of punishment, like I, you know, all them years I play un I might have got hit clean maybe two, three times. That's it.

[Bucky Brooks]

And it hurt.

[Laquan Jones]

Yeah, them two, three.

[Bucky Brooks]

And you was in your 20s and 30s. So imagine you taking those same shots in your 40.

[Laquan Jones]

Yeah, I, I, I, I see what you mean. I see what you mean. Hey, hey, listen, I was so good at making business decisions and being able to get down when necessary. I didn't take any punishment. I didn't take any punishment like you really had, you really had to catch me. I'm talking about clean. And it only, it only happened. It only happened two, maybe two times until about clean like. Well, God damn it. Even questioned. Do I really want to still play this game like clean like that? Why am I doing this to myself?

[Bucky Brooks]

As you get older, Ocho, man, hey, when you young, you want to prove how I'm like, man, I started getting older. I'm like, I'm in NFL. I'm tough. I don't prove that I'm tough. I've been here, right, right here. I don't need to prove it no more if I want to stay another couple of years. Hey, Ocho, at the beginning of every year, I made sure. Hey, get, get everything serviced. Make sure my blink right, right, right. Blinkle, blinkle, blinkle. Right on the bottom bounds.

[Laquan Jones]

He was good, huh?

[Bucky Brooks]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, man, it's. Look, the Ravens are in first. But Ocho, I'm kind of nervous. Your bingos might be, but I'm counting on Buffalo to go ahead and put him in the.

[Laquan Jones]

No, I'm. You know how well we play against Buffalo. Come on now. Hey, Chat. Hey, Chat. Please explain to UN how well we play against the play against the Bills. I'm telling you, Unk, that momentum is finna carry. Did you see how our defense played against the Ravens? I'm hoping, I'm hoping the Bengals. D.J. turner, Demetrius Knight. I need a repeat of what we did against the Ravens in Buffalo. We can do it. We've been bad all season. Why we can't have two games back to back when we play well, where it matters, where it matters most.

[Bucky Brooks]

You're not. You ain't.

[Laquan Jones]

I tell you what. I tell you what. I'm going to tell you how the football gods work. I'm gonna tell you how the football gods work. We gonna. We probably. The chances are we gonna be Buffalo. We gonna be Buffalo. And when the Ravens. You hear me, when the Ravens come down to Cincinnati next week, huh? I'm going to that game.

[Bucky Brooks]

Huh?

[Laquan Jones]

And I'm taking the number. I'm taking. I don't know if butter in the goddamn chat. I'm taking. I'm taking butter with me because I want him to witness. I want to be able to. I want him to see his team lose.

[Bucky Brooks]

Huh? Take it.

[Laquan Jones]

I. I told the Bengals organization. I say, I have somebody coming with me.

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[Laquan Jones]

We need to roll a red carpet out for him, let him see what it's like to come into Paycor Stadium.

[Bucky Brooks]

Huh?

[Laquan Jones]

Play like a Raven.

[Bucky Brooks]

Well, y' all have to. Y' all gonna have to pay for what y' all did on Thanksgiving Day.

[Laquan Jones]

Hey, Play like a Raven. You gotta die like one.

[Bucky Brooks]

Huh? Oh, you gotta think about it. It's just hard for me to believe the Ravens will turn the ball over five times. Again. It's just hard for me to believe.

[Laquan Jones]

Let me tell you something.

[Bucky Brooks]

Now, they.

[Laquan Jones]

Let me tell you something. The Raven didn't turn the ball over five times. The Bengals forced you to turn the ball over five times.

[Bucky Brooks]

Now y' all forced. Now, y'. All.

[Laquan Jones]

Oh, yeah, we forced. Forcing it.

[Bucky Brooks]

There's a good chance. See what I'm saying?

[Laquan Jones]

There's a good chance. And chat. Anybody. Anybody in the chat that's not going along with the program, that does not believe in Cincinnati. My boys down there in the five, one, three. Let me know. I'm taking all bets.

[Bucky Brooks]

Steelers got it bad. Look here. Steelers looking bad, don't y'? All? They look bad. They do. They look good.

[Laquan Jones]

I have a question, too. Now, this is. This is. This would be out of my area expertise. This would be way above my pay grade.

[Bucky Brooks]

Okay?

[Laquan Jones]

But are the frustrations going to grow with Mike Tomlin coaching, being that they're losing, or will it still be the same thing at the end of the season? He's had 17, 18 consecutive willing seasons despite not going to the playoffs, despite not being able to contend for a Super bowl, because that's not their standard.

[Bucky Brooks]

Yeah. And the thing is, Ocho, I believe they're further away now than they've ever been. And this is what we know about the Steelers. The Steelers have never. The Steelers hadn't fired a head coach since 1968.

[Laquan Jones]

Right.

[Bucky Brooks]

So when Chuck no took the job, he turned it over to Bill Cower. Bill Cower turned over to Mike Tomblin. So they've had three coaches in 57 years. Normally they allowed. Normally they allow the coaches to leave.

[Laquan Jones]

On their own.

[Bucky Brooks]

But at what point in time, as Mike Tomlin likes to say, the standard is the standard. The standard ain't been met. They haven't won a playoff game in almost a decade.

[Laquan Jones]

Damn right.

[Bucky Brooks]

2016 was the last time they won a playoff game. They beat the week Kansas City. They beat Kansas City and Kansas City. That was when what you call them went Facebook Live after the game. Ab so that's been. Ocho, that's, that's a decade. That's a decade. You remember, they, they had the, the game, home game against, I think Cleveland. Cleveland dumped them. They had Kansas City. Kansas City dumped them. No, no harm in losing to Kansas City. But it's just, it's just I, I just don't see it getting better anytime soon. Aaron was asked after the game about getting on the same page as a wide receiver. Here's what Aaron had to say after the game. When there's film sessions, everybody shows up. And when I check to a route, you do the right route. You know, like, John and I just weren't on the same page. I checked to his in breaker and he ran out breaker. You know, John is a true professional, so I'm sure he's, you know, he's sick about that.

[Laquan Jones]

I know, I know it's. I know it's play you talking about too. I know exactly what play he's talking about. But hey, he's also insinuating that John and come to the goddamn film session because there was no need to mention that. So he's letting John know.

[Bucky Brooks]

Hey, because, see, he. I'm tired of y' all keep saying we weren't gonna get on the same. We could get on the same page if guys bring their ass to film session. If guys. If, When I check to a route, run the route that I checked to.

[Laquan Jones]

Yeah.

[Bucky Brooks]

But see, when did. Like I said, Chad, I get it. I'm just, it's an old time. When did it become okay, Ocho, the quarterback called film session, and you don't show up if it's not voluntary. If the quarterback. If John said, we got a meeting, it's mandatory. It is the same. It is the same as if Mike called a meeting. I, I, I'm just confused. One I, I, I just don't, I can't, I can't Maybe. Maybe, Yeah.

[Laquan Jones]

I can't even see a scenario, especially in that building. You know, based on it being the Steelers and the way they can tuck conduct themselves in general, I don't see how anyone could even miss a film session. I, I don't see. I'm talking about offensively. You know, in order for things to work, you know, and be able to execute on Sundays, you gotta watch film. So, you know, as Aaron Rodgers being the quarterback of the team, you need everybody that's a part of that offense in those film sessions, right? Like that's important. Like stuff like that, stuff like that, that excites me. I like watching film.

[Bucky Brooks]

I definitely, you know, I love that because if I'm in there, I want to know what he's thinking because I want to be where he needs me to be to catch the ball. So it's just hard for me to see a scenario. I, I would have never, I guarantee. Look, like I said, I played with, I played with seven for a decade. Nine years. Nine. Cause I got there nine. He retired at the 90 season, so I played with him for nine years. There's not a meeting he could have.

[Laquan Jones]

Called that you want.

[Bucky Brooks]

That was in football that I wouldn't show up for.

[Laquan Jones]

Man. Listen, they tell me about anything about film, I might be the first one now because the only reason I like, I like film study, I like going to watch film is because I want to be able to play fast. The more I, the more I know and recognize what I'm seeing and I know where everybody's going to be at the snap of the ball, the faster I'm able to play. I know where everybody's job, I know what everybody's job is. I know exactly where you're going to end up. I know what my danger is. I know what my danger spots are. I, I need that.

[Bucky Brooks]

I just want so now.

[Laquan Jones]

Not only that, part of me being able to talk trash, part of my confidence doesn't come from my skill set or my feet of me being able to earn routes. It's about knowing your responsibilities on the other side of the ball so I know where you weak.

[Bucky Brooks]

I'm a firm believer. I, I, I, I totally agree. I totally agree. It didn't matter what they call, how they call it, what does the quarterback see? When is the quarterback ready to release the ball? Because I need to be coming open when he's ready to release the ball. Not before and not after. Because he ain't waiting. Cause guess what, them defensive end, they not wait.

[Laquan Jones]

They coming, they not waiting.

[Bucky Brooks]

I. I just. I. I don't know. I don't know if Aaron's calling or meeting. It just shows me a lack of respect.

[Laquan Jones]

Yeah.

[Bucky Brooks]

Because the quarterback. Because the quarterback is basically like, when it comes to, like the. In that situation, he's the leader of that offense now. I don't. Like I said, I just couldn't see a scenario. Me personally, I couldn't see a scenario where quarterback called a meeting, we got film session to.

[Laquan Jones]

Gonna show up.

[Bucky Brooks]

No. And I think. I think in nine years, I might have went to one or two.

[Laquan Jones]

Maybe.

[Bucky Brooks]

Maybe even if it's not because normally we watch film together as an offensive.

[Laquan Jones]

Unit, but he might.

[Bucky Brooks]

We watch unit. And I said, I saw. I sat right here. John's seat was right there. Seven seats he saw right there. And I'm asking him, what are you thinking? Oh, and I would tell. I would tell cool. But I would tell cool. But I was like, cool. I don't know. We might need. We. We might need a. We might. Might need to go to take that to 10, 12 to 14. Or I say, we might need to back that down to 18. He would go tell Mike. Mike say, boss. He would say, I talked to boss. He say, try it your way. And we see how it ties up in practice. That's the kind of relationship that I need to have. Hey, you cool with this? John says, okay, that timed up pretty good. He said, but I think we can get away and practice at 10 to 12. Cause I know come game time, you gonna be sped up. It's gonna be 8 to 10. Don't run 8 to 10 in practice because then you're gonna be 6 to 8 and I ain't gonna be ready to throw you the ball. But we've already had that, so I'm having to. I'm having a discussion as we're going through, as we do an install and we start looking at what they do on tape. He's like, okay. He said, don't, don't. Hey, flatten that off. He's telling me he got the ball. Why would I not listen to him?

[Laquan Jones]

Oh, you're right. You're right. Right. You know, it's good when you have a relationship like that, you know, And. And there's a certain level of trust also when it came to watching film, which is why I would never miss something like that. And to have your quarterback even say that, it kind of. It kind of bothers. It's not bothering me a little bit. It just. It just doesn't sit well with me. Because in order for me to be successful, I got to not only know what I'm doing, but know what the people across from me are doing as well. And I want to make sure I'm available for my quarterback. And every single time trust on that football field is huge. It's a huge thing. It's a huge thing. Anytime a quarterback trusts you, he gonna pull the trigger for you. Every time. Every time. You know what? I know I can count on him. I know where we gonna be at sometimes. He might. One of the. One of my favorite things I love to do is, you understand. We always talk about how A.J. brown always lines up in the same place and always run the same routes, right? Is my route tree most of the time, obviously I was able to run all of them right. But sometimes I would always be by myself. You know, whether they, whether, whether they cloud.

[Bucky Brooks]

You like being the X receiver. You like being the single receiver.

[Laquan Jones]

I wasn't tripping. I wasn't tripping.

[Bucky Brooks]

You got more space.

[Laquan Jones]

So what I would always do, right? If I know. Let's say, let's say if I run a dig, I run a dig. Let's say I run a dig in the first, in the first quarter and then they call that dig again. So you know, obviously I'm 2 yards, maybe 4 yards outside the number of the balls on the left hash. So I know we coming back to it again. We come back to it again, Unk. I go on the top of the numbers knowing we running the same route. And Carson won't say nothing. Marvin and Hugh won't say nothing. Cause they know all I'm gonna do, I'm gonna make sure I widen off the release.

[Bucky Brooks]

I don't care if you line up at the tight end spot, as long as you get the long you long as you 14 yards deep and be where you supposed to be, which is 2 to 3 yards outside the numbers. I don't give a damn where you like line up in the backfield, Ocho.

[Laquan Jones]

And you know why they gave me that freedom? Because I knew I was supposed to be at. And I studied film. I knew everybody's responsibility on the other side of the ball, right?

[Bucky Brooks]

The Steelers had 90 yards of total offense through three quarters. They ran the ball for only 58 yards against the Bills, a Bills team that's averaging allowing 149 yards rushing per game. Third worst in the league coming into Sunday. And The Steelers got 58 against a team that normally gives up almost 150 a game.

[Laquan Jones]

Damn.

[Bucky Brooks]

Mike Thomas gotta put the hammer down, man.

[Laquan Jones]

I mean, what. What. What else he wanted to do.

[Bucky Brooks]

Because. But he's a Ocho, if you think about it. Think about what he said. He said people need to show up. What was the issue with the receivers that was in Pittsburgh before this crop? What was the issue? Ocho? Go back and look. Go back and look at what they've had, excluding Hines Ward and Antoine Randol. Look at the receivers they had, and it was something. You either coach it or condone it. Now what you doing? Aim it. To aim it. You coach it or condone it.

[Laquan Jones]

You right, He got. There you go.

[Bucky Brooks]

Cam Hayward said Josh Allen need him in the stomach during the game and he's fed up with that. Quarterback gets protected while players like him don't. Oh, let's take a listen to what Cam had to say.

[Laquan Jones]

Josh Allen, I've seen a little bit of frustration early on.

[Bucky Brooks]

Can you talk about it? Or being knee to my stomach. And then he's drawing back and forth and then, you know, picked off the entire game because as a quarterback, they're protected. But I'm not. Just pisses me off.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You're saying he need you or someone else.

[Bucky Brooks]

That's exactly what I'm saying.

[Ashley Raifel]

Did you cross the line throughout the game?

[Bucky Brooks]

That was that one incident. Is that on purpose by him? Yes. You can set after, you know, I had to do something, get you off of me.

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[Bucky Brooks]

Individually, I'm just concerned about this King. Oo. Cam said he's tired of it. He say tired of these damn quarterbacks getting protected. He. And ain't nobody protecting him.

[Laquan Jones]

He need. He need you that hard in the stomach where it hurt when you complain about it.

[Bucky Brooks]

It's the fact that he needed it had to be hard.

[Laquan Jones]

Man, we got. He got these big boys out here, £400 complaining about the quarterback. Oh, he need me in my stomach. He need me. Come on, Cam, get him back. You know how to get him back. You know how to get him back.

[Bucky Brooks]

Sack him and drop all 300 pounds on his ass. All dead weight.

[Laquan Jones]

That. There it is. There it is right there. Uncle. You took the words right out my mouth. Oh, that's what we doing. That's how we gonna play. Okay, I got something for you, playboy. I got something for you, playboy. Come up, come up, come up. That a gap swim, rip, whatever you need to do. Get that sack and get. Give them the people's elbow, too. Give them the People's elbow with it. Come in that thing. Man, I'm not coming to no meat. Oh, he the quarterback. Need me in my mouth.

[Bucky Brooks]

Yeah, I ain't gonna tell that one now.

[Laquan Jones]

Come on, man. But you a Steeler. What? Huh? Gotta have that mentality.

[Bucky Brooks]

I'm getting my get back.

[Laquan Jones]

You gotta get. You gotta get that. Get back on the field crying to the media.

[Bucky Brooks]

Oh, for sure. Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Laquan Jones]

See?

[Bucky Brooks]

And then don't be. Hey, bro. Hey, I'm trying to feed my family. Me too. But I guess yours won't be eating next week because I'm trying to put your ass out.

[Laquan Jones]

Oh, shoot.

[Bucky Brooks]

Man, I hate that when somebody do something to your old show and they talk about, man, I'm just. Hey, I'm trying to do whatever you're trying to do now. What we trying to do?

[Laquan Jones]

I'm not. I'm not even saying nothing. I'm not even saying that. I know it's my job. If somebody do something to me on the field, it's my job. I got four quarters to be able to get them back or at least make it even. That's it. I'm not running to no media talking about, oh, he did. For what? Oh, they protect, man. Let's play ball, man. You know what to do. Get him back. If somebody hit you back in the day, you don't go run to the teacher and tell them, come on now. This. This is. This is still football. That's. Oh, that's how we playing. Okay, bet. I got you. I got something for you, man. Sack him. And when you lay on him, that whole three. Three. How much you think how much they can weigh?

[Bucky Brooks]

You know, you were about. About 280. That's it. 285. Yeah.

[Laquan Jones]

Put that whole 285 on him and give him a little extra and give him a little extra at the end.

[Bucky Brooks]

And when you get up off the ground. Yeah, like this here. Help yourself up off the ground. Off using his head, man.

[Laquan Jones]

Boy. Hey, lucky I ain't play defense. I would have had all kind of tricks.

[Bucky Brooks]

Hey, hey, hey, Cam, you might have to go and Dominican sue on him.

[Laquan Jones]

Hold on.

[Bucky Brooks]

No, no, no.

[Laquan Jones]

Don't go that far.

[Bucky Brooks]

Come on.

[Laquan Jones]

Yeah.

[Bucky Brooks]

You don't care nothing about me. I give less than a damn about you. That's how I look at it.

[Laquan Jones]

I for an eye.

[Bucky Brooks]

Yep. When I leave everybody blind. Well, good. You bumping in the walls. I'm bumping in the walls with everybody the same. Hey. And you're not gonna do. You're not gonna treat me some kind of way. Don't think I get your ass back on that field.

[Laquan Jones]

You hurt.