BEST OF NFL Week 14 Part 2: No Shedeur in CRUNCH TIME?! Chiefs DYNASTY OVER

Summary

Club Shay Shay – BEST OF NFL Week 14 Part 2: No Shedeur in CRUNCH TIME?! Chiefs DYNASTY OVER

Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Host: Shannon Sharpe (Uncle Charlie) and co-host "Ocho"
Episode Date: December 10, 2025
Episode Theme: A passionate breakdown of NFL Week 14's major storylines, stunning coaching decisions, and player performances, highlighting whether the Chiefs dynasty is done, baffling moves with rookie QB Shedeur Sanders, and critical takeaways from the week’s top games.

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the drama of NFL Week 14 with Hall of Famer Shannon Sharpe and Ocho (Chad Johnson), discussing:

• The Chiefs’ struggles and whether their dynasty has reached its end
• A controversial coaching decision to bench Shedeur Sanders in crunch time despite a historic game
• In-depth reactions to critical matchups: Chiefs vs. Texans, Browns vs. Titans, Eagles vs. Chargers, Bears vs. Packers, and more
• Sharp analysis of player performances, coaching calls, and playoff implications

The discussion is energetic, candid, and filled with classic Sharpe and Ocho banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Chiefs vs. Texans: Are the Chiefs’ Best Days Behind Them?

(03:24–16:50)

• Recap: Texans beat Chiefs 20-10; Mahomes throws 3 INTs, Chiefs' offense continues to struggle.
• Key Issues:
  • Drops plagued the receiving corps (Thornton, Kelsey, Rice).
  • Mahomes was leading rusher; running game virtually nonexistent.
  • Decimated offensive line—starters out, undrafted backups facing Houston’s pass rush.
  • Andy Reid’s critical 4th-down gamble in a tightly contested game rubs Sharpe the wrong way.

Notable Quotes:

• "I disagree with the call Andy made because points are the premium at this point in time... the Texans hadn't done anything in the second half. I can't make that call... Punt this ball away."
  — Uncle Charlie (08:17)
• "This year just hasn't been it for them at all. Everyone is healthy now offensively. And they let Patrick Mahomes down."
  — Ocho (04:40)

Dynasty Doubts:
Sharpe suggests this is the weakest Chiefs team in years, hinting the dynasty may be over unless they reload with playmakers and get healthy up front.

Running Back Debate:

• Chiefs should have pursued a dynamic back like De'Von Achane or Breece Hall.
• Kareem Hunt described as a "three yard and a cloud of dust guy"—not a home run threat.

“They need playmakers. Mahomes can’t do any more than what he’s doing. He needs help.”
— Uncle Charlie (11:45)

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2. Cleveland Browns & Shedeur Sanders: A Coaching Head-Scratcher

(21:30–40:06)

Shedeur’s Historic Game, Then Benched in the Clutch

• Shedeur Sanders puts up a record-breaking stat line but is removed for a Wildcat play during a crucial 2-point try.
• Hostile critique for Browns coach Stefanski’s decision-making:
  • Going for two when down 14 (“Just kick the PAT!”).
  • Choosing gadget plays over sticking with the hot hand at QB.
  • General suspicion about the Browns’ true intentions with Shedeur.

Stats:

• 300+ pass yards, 3 pass TD, 1 rush TD (third rookie since 1950 to do so for the Browns).

Notable Quotes:

• “I'm madder than a wet hornet. Stefanski took him out with the game on the line.”
  — Uncle Charlie (21:38)
• "This is not college. You're not running trick plays. You're not going to fool anybody. The Wildcat is not going to work. This is not 2007.”
  — Ocho (24:14)
• “You take him out to have somebody else throw a pass? That's what it looked like... Your quarterback is playing at a—he's on fire, he's hotter than four foxes in a forest fire.”
  — Uncle Charlie (30:02)

Blunt Critique of Browns' Motives

• Ocho and Sharpe speculate whether the Browns were purposely sabotaging Shedeur’s momentum, not wanting to win with him at QB, or simply "chasing points" unnecessarily.
• Player frustration: defensive stars must be "pissed" watching the offense and coaching blow a comeback.

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3. Eagles vs. Chargers: Turnover Turmoil and Hurts’ Tough Night

(44:26–55:47)

• Game Recap: Chargers outlast Eagles 22-19 in overtime. Jalen Hurts throws four INTs and has a bizarre double-fumble play.
• Both hosts analyze Hurts' critical errors, explaining why some picks and turnovers weren't all his fault (route concepts, tipped balls, poor receiver execution).
• Critique of offensive play design: running corner/flat route combos to the short side of the field, questionable route spacing.

Notable Quotes:

• "To all you guys talking about ‘let Jalen Hurts throw more’—Exhibit A."
  — Uncle Charlie (45:01)
• “If you’re gonna run that concept... run that to the wide side! Why run something like that... to the short side of the field?”
  — Ocho (46:12)

Defensive Standouts

• Eagles sack Justin Herbert 7 times; defense plays lights out, but turnovers spell doom.

Playoff Picture

• Despite struggles, Eagles still in NFC East contention; both hosts share mixed optimism.

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4. Packers vs. Bears: Jordan Love's Growth & Chicago's Progress

(59:34–63:59)

• Packers edge Bears; Jordan Love throws for 3 TDs in a rivalry classic.
• Christian Watson shines if healthy; Caleb Williams shows promise, but makes rookie mistakes.
• Hosts praise Chicago's progress and Green Bay’s resilience in a physically demanding rivalry.

Notable Quotes:

• "When they had to dig deep... the Packers got it. Sometimes that’s what it takes in a division game."
  — Uncle Charlie (63:16)

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5. Seahawks vs. Falcons: Seattle’s Statement Win

(66:14–68:56)

• Seahawks blow out Falcons 37-9, led by Darnold’s 3 TD passes; rookie JSN (Jaxon Smith-Njigba) impresses.
• Offensive trio of JSN, Cooper Kupp, and Rashid Shaheed gets high praise.
• Atlanta undone by turnovers—Bijan Robinson’s fumble becomes a turning point.

Standout Takeaway:

• Seattle’s blend of offense, defense, and playmakers makes them a potential “tough out” in NFC playoffs.

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• “We ain’t been 36 all our life… Eyes and your hands, that don’t never fail you, regardless of how old you get.”
  — Ocho (06:27), on Kelsey and dropped catches in cold weather
• "Why you going for two on the first PAT? If you just kick it, now you down seven, you don’t have to chase the second point."
  — Uncle Charlie (34:01), on baffling Browns coaching
• "They doing that on purpose... They don’t want to win. They don’t want to win with [Shedeur] behind center. That’s the only answer I can think of.”
  — Ocho (35:50)
• “If you noticed, one of the eagle’s wings broke—the eagle like this here, the other one's to his side. So we got to get him to a vet in advance."
  — Uncle Charlie (52:52), clowning Eagles fans after their loss

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Segment/Topic | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------------------|----------------| | Chiefs’ Collapse & Mahomes’ Struggles | 03:24–16:50 | | Chiefs’ RB Debate / O-Line Woes | 10:46–16:50 | | Browns/Titans—Shedeur Sanders’ Start & Benching | 21:30–40:06 | | Hurts’ 4 INT Night; Chargers-Eagles Analysis | 44:26–55:47 | | Bears-Packers; Love vs. Williams | 59:34–63:59 | | Seahawks Rout Falcons; JSN Breakout | 66:14–68:56 |

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Conclusion: The Club Shay Shay Tone

The episode captures the signature blend of sharp football analysis, locker room storytelling, and playful barbs that define Club Shay Shay. Sharpe and Ocho move effortlessly between passionate critique and levity, never shying from questioning coaches or praising young stars. The skepticism around the Browns’ handling of Shedeur, the doom around the once-invincible Chiefs, and the dissection of Hurts’ meltdown all underscore the week’s emotional highs and lows.

For fans who missed the episode, this recap captures the real talk and animated spirit that make Club Shay Shay must-listen entertainment every NFL week.

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Transcript

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[Uncle Charlie]

And Doug, what a horrible call. Hey Raf, open your eyes.

[Ocho]

You're really not gonna call that?

[Uncle Charlie]

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[Uncle Charlie]

The Houston Texans beat the Kansas City Chiefs by the score of 20 to 10. Patrick Mahomes threw three interceptions as Kansas City playoffs hopes continue to fade. He was 14 of 33 under 50, completion, only 160 yards, no touchdowns, three interceptions. Was sacked twice. He didn't get much help from his receiving core. Tyquan Thornton dropped the touchdown. Travis Kelsey dropped two plays on that final drive. Ocho. And then one of them got picked. Yeah, Rasheed Rice dropped this huge fourth down. He got little Petrie. I think. I think that that thing kind of jarred him a little bit. I don't think he was all the way back, Ocho, because Petrie dropped the boom on him. He did. He dropped the boom on him. He was totally relaxed. But the Texans did an unbelievable job. They got after the quarterback tonight and they forced him to shut down. I mean, they had 20, but Mahomes with the leading rusher with seven carries for 59 yards. But watching this game and you see the Houston Texans and what they were able to do, they go into Arrowhead, they get this victory. Stay attached to the Jacksonville Jaguars, who leave that division. Yes, they needed this victory in order to try to gain some footing, get into the playoff hunt and potentially chase down the Jags. But what did you like about what you saw from the Houston Texans?

[Ocho]

Listen, the Texans got it done. What I didn't like, obviously they didn't make enough adjustments for me, especially offensively. Once Trent McDuffie went out, you knew that Spagnola had to bring pressure. Now with them bringing pressure, I got tired of seeing C.J. strad run for his life. And they make no adjustments offensively, obviously. I, I would think if, if, you know, they're blitzing every time, stop running plays where the play take long to develop. Just go quick game. If anything, do do things, you know, misdirection, get, you know, get them. Get them going one way and come back the opposite way with some. Something, something else. But just seeing CJ Stroud run for his life. But they were able to make some plays even with that pressure, and they. The. The back end was exposed. Obviously that's going to happen once, Once you do blitz. And outside of that, the defense, the defense won that game. The defense for the Houston Texans won that game for them. I'm not sure what's wrong with the Kansas City Chiefs. They lost, what, five of the. Wait, four of the last fives or something? Something like that. They just don't look the same. Obviously they have a great run, they've had a great Run in, probably. Even though they have 15, who probably is arguably one of the greatest, not maybe the second greatest quarterback of all time, this year just hasn't been it for them at all. Everyone is healthy now offensively. Everyone is healthy now offensively. And they let. They let Patrick Mahomes down. Rasheed Rice, Hollywood Brown, he made some plays. Kelsey. He looks almost like a shell of himself. Damn near.

[Uncle Charlie]

He didn't play well. It's cold, Ocho, when you get, you know, hey, when you old and it's cold, Ocho, man, you. Hey, nah.

[Ocho]

Hey, that ain't no excuse. You know that. You have to adapt to the elements. You gotta adapt to that.

[Uncle Charlie]

How you down to getting old?

There's a reason why old people move to Florida and Arizona.

[Ocho]

Hold on, hold on. We've been catching footballs all our life.

[Uncle Charlie]

We ain't been 36 all our life. We ain't been 37 all our life. We ain't Been 40 all our life.

[Ocho]

Listen, listen to me. Listen to me real quick. All you need is your eyes and your hands. That's all it come down to. You could be 60 years old. Your eyes and your hands, that don't never fail you, regardless of how old you get. But the Houston Texans, that goddamn defense, boy, they can get after the quarterback.

They got the back end. The back end, man, them boys played very well. They played very well. So I'm glad to see the Texans win. They've won the last four, their last five games. So it seems like they're ascending right now while the Kansas City Chiefs are descending.

[Uncle Charlie]

They are. Like I said, Taekwond Thornton had a touchdown. His hands, he dropped that. Great play by. Great, great play. To not give up by Lassiter to continue fight all the way through the catch. Yes. Rashid Rice had a couple of drops. Travis had a couple of drops. We know that. The offensive line is beat to hell. The left tackle comes in and he gets out. Now you're going against. You going with an undrafted left tackle against Daniel Hunter and Will Anderson Jr. That's not a recipe for success. But I thought he played really, really well tonight. The offensive line is not, you know, the best. I mean, think about it. You're starting left tackle is out. Your backup left tackle is out. You're starting all pro right guard. He's out. You're starting right tackle, he's out. So think about it. You're down. You're probably. You're down to your backups. To your backups. And at some point in time, you keep saying, next man Next man up. Next man up. Well, the next man up need to be making the equivalent of the guy that he's replacing. Because if you say I got a guy that's making 15 million and then you bring a guy in 400,000, there's a reason why one guy's making 15 million. Ocho. There's a reason why one guy's Making 400,000. So we've got this notion. Oh, man. Next man up. Next man up. There's a reason why he was down to begin with.

[Ocho]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

I disagree with the call to Andy made because points are the premium at this point in time. The score is 10 10. We're late in the ball game. Oo. I will punt the ball because at that point in time, the Texans hadn't done anything in the second half. I think they might have had. Might have had 50 yards in the second half. For the longest time, they were negative yards. Kansas City's defense and honed in Spags had done a great job of dialing it up, stopping the run on first down, getting after CJ Stroud, getting him off his mark in that situation. I disagree with Andy and I don't like to disagree with Andy because I think he's one hell of a coach and his resume speaks for itself. But in a game like this where points are at a premium, I don't want to do it if they do nothing offensively. They're in field goal range. Yeah, I can't make that call, Ocho. I got to punt this ball away. I understand. I got Patrick Mahomes, and I understand he wants to go up. Go for it. Go for. Every quarterback is going to want to go. Ellie, he going to want to go for it on 4th and 10, 4th and 12. Right. But sometimes you got to use your better part. You got to use your judgment. And like, you know what? Let's punt this ball. Let's make. Let's force them to make a mistake. Let's not give them a gift. And I felt that's what they did, and that was really the difference in the ball game.

But like I said, the guy. I mean, Mahomes were a little off. I mean, he had great. That's a hard play to defend. And you and I talked about it with a running back. You see Marks? He caught a touchdown.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

He pretended like he was going to block. He slip out. CJ Flips it to him because that's the guy that has in, man. Well, he's coming on a blitz. I ain't standing to block him. I'm just going to slip him and get to the flats. You see the guys. A lot of times those tight ends will be on the line. They helping, helping. Everybody sinking now. They drift out. The only thing I would tell no, keep it up the field. Why you going to get a headache? Did you see that linebacker drifting that way? Now, Mahomes threw a terrible pass. I would prefer you leak up the field and give yourself some room to so you don't run into that headache that's in the. That middle linebacker that's waiting on you. But.

To make a long story short, and I know I went, I made a short story long, the Chiefs aren't getting very good this year.

[Ocho]

No, absolutely not. And honestly, un Mahomes, he was 14 for 33. He had three interceptions. He only threw for 160 tonight. Xavier Worthy had three for 55. If I'm not mistaken, he might have been their leading receiver. The fact that Patrick Mahomes was the leading rusher, that's not going to win you many games. That's not going to win you many games. You have to have some type of balance. They were one dimensional tonight for the simple fact that they couldn't run the ball. They haven't been able to run the ball all season long, honestly.

[Uncle Charlie]

And that's why I felt that they should have gave up the second round pick or maybe even a first round pick for Achan.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

Cause is there a back that's coming out in the draft that you believe that's better than hn, that can run the ball between the tackles, can hit his head on the goal post, can catch the ball out of the backfield because I mean Pacheco, I mean, Lord have mercy, he get a hold. He runs right up the lineman's back. I'm like, bro, what are you doing? You look.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

And Kareem, he. I'm glad to see him back, but he's basically a power back. He's a three yard and a cloud of dust guy. He's not a guy that you can consistently give the ball to and you hoped him to break something big. That's not what he is right now. He's a two to three yard a carry guy. That's what he is, Ocho. And there's nothing wrong with it. There is a place for that guy that, you know he can get you very, very tough yards. The initial, the first guy normally doesn't bring him down. But they need, they need playmakers. They need guys that can help Patrick Mahomes out because at this Juncture. He can't do. I mean.

He can't do any more than what he's doing. He can't. He can't. Yeah. I mean, guys got to make plays. And when your quarterback. And that's the thing. When your quarterback isn't playing well, you need guys that can step up and make plays. And he didn't get any help tonight.

[Ocho]

Yeah, no, he didn't. And the playmaker that we're speaking of, honestly, I think as far as the receiver. Receivers are. Receivers are concerned. I think they're set there. But Patrick Mahomes has to stop running the ball so much. They need a premium.

[Uncle Charlie]

Yeah, they do.

[Ocho]

They need a premium. Like, when I think about Breece Hall, I think Breeze hall might have had a chance to go there before. Before the deadline for trade, for trades. That would have been perfect for them. That would have been perfect for them. So a running back like a Jameer Gibbs. I'm saying. I'm not saying there's another Jameer Gibbs out.

[Uncle Charlie]

Somebody like.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, Hn. A running back like that, that can. That can actually hit his head off the goal post from anywhere. And every time he does get the ball, you have the chance that something could happen. You know, that takes some of the pressure off of Mahomes not having to do so much with his arm all the time and always happen to be Superman and make the plays that he's making.

[Uncle Charlie]

Yeah. Because the thing is, Ocho, sometimes in the west coast system, the short passing game is an extension of the run. They need the run. Yes. They don't need an extension of the run. They need to be able to run the football. And right now they can. Now, the offensive line is beat to hell. And we understand that because, you know, your right tackle is out. Your left tackle went out. The guy that replaced him went out. So now you're down to your third guy at tackle and who's an undrafted free agent. Now your right guard is out. Now you're down to your backup at right guard. So it's tough. It's tough. It's really tough. Go ahead.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I have a question. What? I don't know why his name is slipping my mind right now. The running back that used to play for the Kansas City Chiefs, he tore his acl. But before he tore his acl, he was fast.

[Uncle Charlie]

Jamal Charles.

[Ocho]

Jamal Charles. That's what they need. They need another Jamal Charles or somebody like that. I mean, man, listen. Jamal, get that ball. If he hit that edge and get to that second level, you might as well the fat lady might as well sing. They need something like that. There's nothing like that in the draft.

[Uncle Charlie]

I don't think so either.

[Ocho]

So whoever and whatever they do get, it has to be an off season acquisition. I have a good one for you right now. I think they need to do whatever they need to do in the off season. They need to go get Alvin Kamara. Nah, they need to go get.

[Uncle Charlie]

No, not at this, not at this juncture of his career. Too many catches, too many carries on that body. He's not that guy anymore, Ocho. He's serviceable, but he's not that Ocho. Now Breeze hall, he's much easier.

[Ocho]

I'm good. He's much better than what they have.

[Uncle Charlie]

But that ain't saying that you don't need. You need. You need. You need a guy that you could really depend on. He's breaking down in Kansas. He's breaking down in New Orleans. Do you realize how many touches he has on his body?

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, I know. You realize how many, how many touches Derrick Henry has on his body.

[Uncle Charlie]

Yes.

[Ocho]

Look what he, look what he did last year.

[Uncle Charlie]

He not the same this year. And maybe that's because he's not getting the same opportunities as he got last year. I think I, I, I, me personally, oo, I think they need a little bigger back.

[Ocho]

No, they got Kareem Hunt.

[Business Narrator]

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[Uncle Charlie]

Ocho, stop it. Ocho. Come on now. We like, we love Kareem. We appreciate him coming on.

[Ocho]

Okay, wait, you said, you said a big, but bigger back can only do.

[Uncle Charlie]

So a Bree Hall. They need that type of back. A guy that's big can run with power and run with speed.

[Ocho]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Uncle Charlie]

Everybody look Jir Gil. But they also have David Montgomery. You look at, look at Green Bay. They got a two back system. Josh, Josh Jacobs. And they got 23. I can't get his name off the top of my head. Look at, look at the, the 49ers. Brian Robinson, Jr. Christian McAffrey. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Chris McAffrey.

[Uncle Charlie]

So the backs need to, I mean.

They'Ve got to do, they got to do some soul searching. They, they really do. And I thought Kansas City defense played really well tonight. They didn't. They weren't. I mean, there are some times that they got through and they couldn't get CJ on the ground and he made some plays. But see, that's what happens when you, when you bring pressure and you sacrifice your back end because, you know, once McDuffie went out, they're okay back there, but they're not great. No, they, they, they make, they, they make, they hate when they can break, when that pressure can get there. If the pressure don't get there, guys going to be running open. Yeah.

[Ocho]

You know the bad thing about it is, is is for Spags having to make the adjustments with Trenton McDuffie going out. When you do bring that pressure, McDuffie can lock down one side. He doesn't need any help. So you can bring in all, all that pressure from, from the opposite side of the field knowing that Trent McDuffie going to take care of his side. But once he goes out, hey, you're backing and basically exposed. Which is why CJ Stroud was able to make some of those plays despite him having to run for his life most of the goddamn.

[Uncle Charlie]

You like you're right. You, you, you're right.

But look, it's one of those years. The Texas, this is what the Texans defense did in the second half. They picked Mahomes off twice.

Yeah, I mean he went like what, nine straight passes. The passes were either incomplete or they were intercepted. 28.6 completion percent rate and they had almost a 42% win rate.

And when you look at it, the Houston Texas are now eight and five. They're in the eighth seed behind the, behind the Laker, behind the Chargers. But they're game back, they're game back at Jacksonville and they got, they got three of their last four games are at home. They look, they really, they really do control their own death.

[Rob Gronkowski]

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[Uncle Charlie]

Oh show the Titans Titans beat the Browns. But Shador hey joined a very historic club during his third NFL start.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

Yes. Browns quarterback with 300 pass yards, three touchdowns and a rush touchdown in the same game since 1950. He's also the seventh rookie in the Super bowl era to throw for 360 yards, have four total touchdowns, rush or pass in the same game, joining C.J. stroud, Joe Burrow, Deshaun Watson, Marcus Mariota, Andrew Luck and Matthew Stafford. But, but, but despite got me frustrated because I'm, I'm. Boy, I'm mad. I'm mad at him. A wet Hornet. Stefanski took him out with the game on the line. Ocho.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

What I don't understand.

[Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Uncle Charlie]

When you come, you're down 14, you score a touchdown, you're at home. Why are you going for two? Kick the pat. And guess what, Ocho, you're down seven. Now you score a touchdown and kick the pat. Guess what, Ocho? We tied.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

I mean, honestly, there's no explanation behind what Stefanski is doing. There's none at all. But what I can tell you is I can tell you that his job, that his job is secured, which is why he's making the calls that he's making. There's no reason. You got six minutes left in the game. Shador goes down, Shador goes down and he scores.

[Uncle Charlie]

Why go for two, Ocho? Tell me. I, I just, I need somebody to offer me an explanation. When you down 14, you're at home.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

Even if you're on the road, you're down an even number. Why would you go for two? Because now if you get now you, you chasing points. You don't need to do that.

[Ocho]

Hold on for one. As well as he was playing, look at the numbers he put up today. As well as he was playing all game long. Right. You want to put the ball in your best player's hands that has a hot hand at the right time. Who is that? Shador so if you are going to go for two, if you're going to make that decision to go for two, you put the ball in your quarterback's hands who just drove you down not once, but twice on back to back drives to get you a chance to win the game or at least tie the game. I think, Unk, I was so confused by this, I had to make two phone calls. I had to make two phone calls to people who have been head coaches before just to make sure I can get a better understanding and get a better perspective and context on what was being made. But obviously, even though they're not coaching anymore right now, even though they're not a part of the NFL right now, the answers they gave me were PC, so they wouldn't give me what I really wanted to hear. And I'm not gonna say any names, but Stefanski, I can't say anything about him being fired because this is the reason why they didn't want Shador starting in the first place.

[Uncle Charlie]

Because now you see what he's capable of. Because everybody said if he'd have started at the beginning of the season, what could we have been Unk.

[Ocho]

I mean, Unk. This is exactly why they didn't want him starting. This is exactly why he wasn't getting any reps, because they understood what you would get. Once he gets in there and he gets acclimated to the system with his players and he gets any kind of chemistry and continuity with that offense, this is what you get and the stuff you pull in when you get, when you, when you. After you score and taking them out. This is not college. You're not running trick plays. You're not going to fool anybody. The Wildcat is not going to work. This is not 2007. Ronnie Brown ain't back there.

[Uncle Charlie]

They're trying to run the Wildcat. Oh, they're trying to run the Wildcat. Look, the reason why the Dolphins ran the Wildcats, because their quarterback wasn't any good. You got a competent quarterback that's playing his ass off. I felt that he made probably one mistake tonight, Ocho, is that when he threw the ball up, down the middle of the field when he was playing so well, and he didn't really need to do that. And that's why I was like, shador, you're playing so well. You know, you're not supposed to just eat the ball up, down the middle of the field. Other than that, Oo, I thought this young man played extremely well. He was balling, throw it with touch. The one he dropped down in the bucket. Oh, man, he dropped it in the bucket.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

Good thing the world that he had that we've given a Fanning Jr. The one he had to touch the Jerry Judy that he hit for 60. That.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

Basically the same play that he missed, that he overshot him the game before.

[Ocho]

Lady Buddy hit him this time. And I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad him and Judy got on that. On that same page this week. I was. I was happy to see that. But that goddamn Fanning Jr.

[Uncle Charlie]

But he making plays every.

[Ocho]

Every goddamn week 44, popping up on film. Every week 44 popping up on film. I don't. I don't know what they got. I don't know what kind of chemistry. I don't know if they stay out the practice and they. And they work together, but every time the ball is in the air, he got to have. He got to have it.

[Uncle Charlie]

I agree with you. Hey, what about the touch pass that he threw?

[Ocho]

The.

[Uncle Charlie]

He retreating and threw the touch pass in Joku?

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

I mean, he has things that you just can't teach.

[Ocho]

No, no, you can't.

[Uncle Charlie]

He has things that you can't teach.

[Ocho]

And, and the funny thing.

[Uncle Charlie]

Go ahead, make your point.

[Ocho]

No, I was gonna say what he lacks in mobility, he makes up in so many other areas when it comes to being able to extend plays, being able to play off script, being able to. Being able to be accurate. Being able to be accurate. You know, on the run. He's phenomenal at that. And the fact that he looks as good in only his third start. As bad as the Cleveland Browns team is not defense team is offensively. To have him in there and give them that spark to where now in each game they're competing. Yes, they're competing week in and week out.

[Uncle Charlie]

And he's. And he's playing through his bull job coach.

[Ocho]

Hey, matter of fact, maybe we can ask the chat. Even if you don't like Shador, you know, even if you don't like the Browns. Can you please give me an explanation in the chat why you take him out two drives back to back with opportunity to get closer and put point when points are a premium in a situation like this where you want to win a game. Well, I mean, you, you would think the fancy would want to win the game, but some of the stuff, some of the play calls you have in situations like that, you putting your team in harm's way.

[Uncle Charlie]

For me, it was. It was. It's the taking him out, going to the wildcat when your best Player, you know, he needs to be on the field. But what I don't understand. I need somebody to explain to me, why did he go for two points on the first time they scored a touchdown? That's what I need to understand, because at that point in time, Ocho, you don't need it. You don't need it. You don't.

[Rob Gronkowski]

No.

[Uncle Charlie]

And then. So let me guess this. So now we're down 8 because we didn't. We. We were done. I don't know what happened. Maybe. Maybe Eagle had a rock and it dropped it on my and Stefanski's head. I don't know what happened, but. So now we got to go for two. So we gonna take. We gonna take Shador out, and we're gonna run Wildcat. And the guy forgetting to pitch the ball.

I. I'm thinking. I'm thinking. He was supposed to pitch it. Ocho.

[Ocho]

Yeah, he was supposed to pitch it. He was supposed to come around, and.

[Uncle Charlie]

Obviously he was gonna throw it. I guess somebody else was gonna go out for a pass. I guess. I guess. I guess. I mean, at this point in time.

We just, like everybody else, we had a loss for words.

[Ocho]

I'm confused. The only way as a head coach, this is how I know a job isn't in jeopardy. This is how I know a job is in jeopardy. Because when your job is in jeopardy, you call plays that are conducive for you to look good as a head coach. And with a quarterback playing as well as he was playing, even if. Even if it wasn't Shador, a quarterback that had. Like, he had that game.

[Uncle Charlie]

You're not taking him out.

[Ocho]

No, you're not taking him out. Cause your job is on the line.

[Uncle Charlie]

You're not taking him out.

[Ocho]

Your job is on the line. I need to do everything I can to show management and those that are in positions of power who can make the call on whether I stay or go. That's coming from up top. Matter of fact, we can't even blame the coach. This is the same situation. Who's the reason who took the fall for Luka getting traded again? Nico.

Stefanski is basically Nico.

Stefanski is basically Nico Collins. He's taking all Stefanski taking all the heat, but the call is coming from up above.

[Uncle Charlie]

You got him.

[Ocho]

Listen, do whatever you do, whatever you need to do. Do whatever you need to do to make him look bad. Cause there's no reason why. Are you not trying to win? Are you trying to tank purposely? Are you trying to make your team look bad purposely? Because that's exactly what you're doing. Because you have every Cleveland Brown fan, every football fan scratching your head about the decision making you're making as a head coach.

[Uncle Charlie]

I've had people reach out to me and ask me. They don't even really know football like that. Say, why they take Shadow out?

Cause I. They say we ask. I'm gonna ask you because I know. You know, you played the game. You watched the game. You studied the game. I said, I don't know. It's like, you know something. I'm like, damn, I ain't in Cleveland. I don't know. Hell if I do. I tweeted it. It needs to be studied. They need a. A doj, Department of Justice. I need y' all to open up an investigation in what the hell is going on in Cleveland. What the hell is Stefanski doing? Because it makes no sense, even if you want to run the Wildcat, considering that your quarterback is playing at a. He's on fire. He's hotter than four foxes in a forest fire. That's how hot he is, Ocho. And you take him out. You take him out to do. Think about this, Ocho. You take him out to have somebody else throw a pass. Cause that's what it looked like. If you was going to flip it to him, what was he going to do? Run it or he was going to run and put up and throw up, Throw up, pull up and throw a pass. So that's what I think.

[Ocho]

He was going to throw up. Listen, he was going to. He was going to throw it to somebody. If junkers. It flipped the ball like it was supposed to. Obviously. Misdirection. You know how well misdirection works when you're playing against the defense that's extremely aggressive. Yes, extremely aggressive. You're hoping somebody misses assignment in a. In a. In a back. In a back or a receiver or a tight end, you know, leaks out and he's wide open. But it didn't happen. It didn't work. It didn't work.

[Uncle Charlie]

I want to ball this. I don't give.

[Ocho]

I. I don't.

[Uncle Charlie]

I don't. I don't care.

I'm gonna go down. I'm gonna go down and look, if you never. Hey, you brought me this far. You brought me this far.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

If this is as far as you can take us. Well, you brought us farther than I was.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I. I don't get it. I don't get it.

[Uncle Charlie]

I just told you, it doesn't make.

[Ocho]

Hold on, Michael.

[Uncle Charlie]

Here's what Stefanski said About going for two. The last, that last two point conversion. Let's take a listen to what he had to say.

[Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Uncle Charlie]

What was supposed to happen on that last two point conversion?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

Not going to get into all the specifics, Jeff, but obviously did not go as we thought it would. Did you make that call or did Tommy? Yeah, I make every call. I make every call.

[Ocho]

Why would you take them off?

[Uncle Charlie]

Yeah, it's. Again, it's a two point play. Didn't come through on our first two point play. Got to the second two point play, we didn't come through. But that's, that's on me.

[Ocho]

Was that, what was that, that play call yours or Thomas?

[Uncle Charlie]

Every. I'm responsible for all of it. No, I thought, I thought you turned over play calling duties. Now it's being reported. Mary Kate, I need you to call, I need you to let us know, jump in the chat. Because it was reported that he turned the play calling over to Tommy Reese. Right. Isn't that the O.C. so I, I know everything's on you and you don't want to get into it. Get into it. What went into your thinking that when Shador Sanders had led you that back from 14 down, he had led you back. What made you. What went into the decision to take him off the field and potentially have someone else throw a two point conversion? What went into your decision, Coach?

[Ocho]

Hold on, hold on. Not only have someone else throw the two point conversion, have someone else throw the two point conversion. That wasn't your quarterback. That was on fire like he was playing NBA jams. Hold on, Unc. A play like that in college, I understand it. Yes, I understand it. Because they don't see it coming in the NFL. It's not working. That's a play for the movie the Longest Yard. Or maybe on Thanksgiving you're in the goddamn Turkey Bowl. That's what it's for. Or maybe the movie Waterboy. That's when you run a play like that, not with a game on the line that you're actually trying to win and compete. Like, what are we doing? I swear for God, on my mama, rest in peace. I had to call two of my former coaches to get a better perspective on what they were doing. Because you've been a head coach. Please explain to me you've been in that position before. If that was you, why do you call a play like that? And of course they wouldn't give me an answer. They wanted to keep it PC, like, come on.

[Uncle Charlie]

Well, first of all, you should have been in that situation. Because you should have kicked the pat to begin with. Why the hell you go for two on the first pat, you're only down 14, you're down an even number. So why the hell are you going. Why you hell are you going for two on the first pat? If you just kick it now, you're down seven. Now you don't have to chase the second point.

That's what makes no sense to me. Nothing. First of all, it didn't make.

Who he started, he wanted. He went with Flacco. Okay, fine. They said Dylan Gabriel, they drafted him in the third round. Okay, Whatever the case may be, we can't go back in time, undo what's already done. But moving forward, the guy gives you a great opportunity to win. A great opportunity. He's playing his ass off and you undercut him by taking him off the field. You undercut him by going for two when it's unnecessary. So I'm just trying to figure out, and I don't want to use the word sabotage, but I will say I'm trying to understand your rationale and your thought process. What goes into going for two the first time when you're only down 14? You kick the pat, you're down seven, okay? Now you're down eight because you didn't get the first pat. I mean the first two point conversion. So now you're down eight, you gotta go for it. What goes into a rationale after you see what your quarterback has done? Why would you take him off the field and ask somebody that doesn't play the position, do you really, are you really, really trusting someone that hasn't thrown a pass, to throw a pass in that situation, in that moment, at that jump shutter game? You really want to do that, Ocho? Is that really what you want to do, Chad? Hell no.

[Ocho]

They doing that on purpose. They doing it on purpose and it's just not this. Just think about since training camp. Just think of all the games they've continued to play, their organization has continued to play. You know, with Shador, just in general, they did not want young Bull to be a starter because they understood if he gets the opportunity to play the numbers, you see him putting them up, putting them up, putting up, him getting an opportunity to play. He's going to give them their best chance to win. They don't want to win. What? They do want to win. They don't want to win with him behind center. That's the only answer I can think of for you to be pulling that kind of bull drive I saw out there Today, as a former player, as a football fan, as a fan of the game.

For anybody, for any team, for any quarterback, you always want to put your quarterback and your team in the best positions to win because that's, that's the point of. That's the point of playing this game. You want to win. And that, that I'm sorry that he pulled today was ridiculous.

[Uncle Charlie]

On the downside, I was disappointed in Cleveland's defense, rush defense. Tony Pollard had 25 carries for a buck 61, had a 65 yard run, had another long run. They've got to do a better job of stopping the run. And so now we can put more pressure on Cam Ward. But when you're in sec, when you're second and short, you're third and short, it's hard to rush the quarterback, Ocho, when you in short, down and D, because you don't know they can run it. They. Now if we got it second and long, we got it third and long. Now we can. Now we can unleash Miles Garrett. Now we can unleash some of these rushers. But I just need somebody to tell me, I need. I need someone to explain to me and I need you to explain it to me as If I'm a 7 year old. So it's like a kid going to a father and he's asking him a question. Father. That's what I need somebody to explain it to me because it makes no sense as a guy, Ocho, as guys that played the game, as a guy that studied the game. And I'm. And that's what I do. I don't look at. I don't look at touchdowns. I'm glad they scored. I'm looking at how they scored. I'm looking at why they scored. I'm looking at what did the defense do. I'm looking at what play was called, what personnel were you in so I can have a better understanding and says, okay, I saw what this worked, but when you to do this, it makes no sense.

[Ocho]

Yeah. And can I. Can I say one thing also? Let's say the Cleveland Brown defense, they've been playing they ass off all season. They've been playing they ass off all season. They've been stopping the run, they've been stopping the pass. So you know what? You come to a game where now we need the offense. We was down 14. God damn it. The offense showed up. The offense showed up. They showed up. Miles Garrett got to be pissed. Denzel Ward, Dale Pitt, they have to be pissed because I know they see it I know if they. I know if anybody was mic'd up, I know on the sideline, if you hear the defensive player talking, they'd be like, man, what the hell are we doing? What the hell are we doing? Okay, they're running the ball on us now. This is one of the few games we need our offense to have our back. Long be hole the offense had they back with a position twice. Two different drives drove down the field. We score, we go for two. What, we get the ball back, go right back down the field again and we do the same again. They got to be pissed, but they can't say nothing. They're not gonna say none. They know it's some bull drive, but players in that locker room, they can't see anything. But they can see. Yeah, they can see. They can see clear as they. They know what's going on. They know what's going on. But if I can see it and I'm all the way down here in Miami, a thousand something miles away. Come on.

[Uncle Charlie]

We know who can Come on. Who can play and who can't chat.

[Ocho]

Come on.

[Uncle Charlie]

We know who can play and who can't play. When you're in the locker room, you know exactly who can play and we know exactly who can't play. I don't get. I don't care what coach does. I don't care how much money you make. I don't care where you were drafted. I know if you can play or not because I see you every day. Yeah, they know Shador Sanders can play. They believe in Shador. The greatest thing your teammates can do is have a belief in you, can trust you.

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[Uncle Charlie]

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[Uncle Charlie]

He.

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[Uncle Charlie]

The Chargers defeat the Eagles by the score of 2219. In overtime, it looked like the Eagles were going down to win or even tie the game. Win touchdown, tie, field goal and then we play on. Then the next score wins.

[Ocho]

Yes.

[Uncle Charlie]

Instead, Jalen Hurts threw into heavy traffic. The ball was deflected by Tony Jefferson. That's fourth interception. Four interceptions by Hurts and he had another fumble. Turned the ball over twice on one play. Ocho. Yeah, a new career high for interceptions in a game. Now for all you guys talking about they need to let Jalen Hurst throw more. Let Jalen hurst Throw more.

Exhibit 8.

Hey. Hey. Go ahead.

[Ocho]

I was going to say, obviously I didn't. Most of the time you think about Jalen and his decision making with the ball. Even though he doesn't throw the ball much on, he always protects the ball. I think before this game started on the season, I think he maybe had three, maybe four interceptions up to this point in the season. And to have a game like tonight where his decision making wasn't what it usually is, especially at the end of the game, understanding the circumstances, the flat route is right there. The flat route is right there. Make the guy come up, make a goddamn tackle instead of trying.

[Uncle Charlie]

Thank you. Thank you Ocho. Thank you. Hold on.

[Ocho]

Instead of trying to squeeze a corner route which he running, which they running the corner route to the goddamn short side of the field. So chances are that's not going to be over.

[Uncle Charlie]

He can play both of them. He could play. So Ocho, to your point, because he's in between Goddard and the route, you don't have space. You need space because where are you going? You can't run a 20 yard out route because you're going to be out of the damn end zone. So when Goddard goes up five yards and he goes up seven yards, the guys in between, he can literally play both.

[Ocho]

That's obviously, if you're going to run that concept, if you're going to run that route, that combination concept, you got to run that to the wide side. Huh? You got to run to the wide side. Why run something like that in that situation to the short side of the field? It makes no sense to me. But in that situation, if you do run it, Jalen has to know, boom. As soon as that corner, as soon as the corner drops off just a little bit, trying to play both, trying to play in between, Just take what's in front of you right now. Let him. Let him come up and make the tackle.

[Uncle Charlie]

That's it. That's all you have to do.

[Ocho]

You live to see another down.

[Uncle Charlie]

Ocho. Even if you run that to the short side of the field, you need to have distance, you got to have separation because he knows where is number two. That's Dawson. I think that's Dawson, right?

[Ocho]

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Uncle Charlie]

Where is he going? No, Joe, he can only run so far, but hell, he'll be in Compton.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

Which would be out of bounds.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

So no touchdown. So he knows that. So now I can play. I can soft play it. Because if you throw it to God, I'm gonna come up. It's only a three yard game.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

I'm hoping you throw it to Goddard so I can tack. But guess what? Since you didn't, I get my hand up in the ball. Carolina, he played awful tonight. There's no way around it. One of those picks wasn't his.

What you call Brown. A.J. yeah, A.J. saw that. He saw that linebacker. He saw that linebacker. That's the one you got. That's the one you gotta. You gotta protect him. Yeah, he's. You see the guy, you know there's a linebacker coming. You gotta protect the guy. That's where you throw it. At his waist. That's why you get him down and allow him to protect himself.

[Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Uncle Charlie]

AJ knows that hit is coming. He's got to make that catch. He's got to make a play. He can't pop it up because if you pop it up, the guy that's trailing you go get a pick every time. It's as simple as that. But AJ knows he's gotta, gotta. He's gotta make that play. But then he hit on his own. He hit the D tackle in the damn chest. And then the guy comes.

[Ocho]

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Uncle Charlie]

Huh?

[Ocho]

Hold on. Listen. That zone blitz and that D tackle pop out instead of rushing. That's Hard to see. That's hard to see for a quarter. For question. Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

The guy that he was trying to throw it to was behind the guy that he hit in the chest. How is that hard to see?

[Ocho]

No, no, I'm just saying, you know, that's why it's called his own blitz. And they had that D tackle pop out like that because you're not expecting as a quarterback, you already. What's that? Predetermined. You already predetermined with the ball.

[Uncle Charlie]

I wanted you to say that.

[Ocho]

Yeah, okay. Okay.

[Uncle Charlie]

That's all. I just wanted him to say that. Chad.

[Ocho]

Right, right.

[Uncle Charlie]

He had already made his mind up where he was going with the football. Right. That's all. I just want him to say that. Chat. Yeah, you're absolutely right. So here's the thing, Ocho. You make a terrible read. You hit the guy in the chest, the guy comes from behind him, strips him of the football, okay? The ball pops out. You get it instead of falling on the ground. Because guess what, Ocho, since it's a change of possession, it's your ball. And his first down going.

[Ocho]

First down going.

[Uncle Charlie]

You. Exactly. Now you try to be hero. Jalen want to be a hero. Cause we gonna talk about it on sports and we gonna talk about it tonight. If he gets that ball up and gets 10 yards, get 15 yards. So instead of doing the wise thing, what are you trying to do, Ocho?

[Ocho]

Try to run a cap on.

[Uncle Charlie]

Guess what happened? Ocho ball out again.

[Ocho]

He fumbled again. Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey. It was a weird. It was a weird game tonight. It was a weird game tonight with so many fumbles, whether it was special teams, whether on all, you know, both. Both offenses. It was eight turnovers in the game tonight. I'm not sure what the. What the record is for the most turnovers in the game, but this has to be up there with it. This has to be up there with it. And I really thought the defense would have saved the day for them, and obviously they would have, being that San Diego got a field goal in the first overtime. So I thought, hell, they're going to go down to score.

[Uncle Charlie]

You know what you need.

[Ocho]

I was actually hoping they were going to score, you know, for their. For. For their sake and with. With the way they played. But unfortunately, the decision making on. On. On Jalen, you know, at the end of the game, it. It kind of. It kind of hurt. And another thing, one of the. One of the best throws. One of the. One of the throws that, that I know the throw.

[Uncle Charlie]

You Talking about that third that third.

[Ocho]

And 15 where he let that ball go right off the Devonte.

[Uncle Charlie]

I knew to play. Exactly the play you talking about.

[Ocho]

Boy, that was beautiful. Boy, that. That's what we call anticipating.

[Uncle Charlie]

Yes.

[Ocho]

And letting it go and trusting your receiver. That was beautiful right there.

[Uncle Charlie]

Boy, that was on show. That's what they ask him to do. That's what he doesn't do well enough when it's. When it's one on one. Yeah. But see, the really good ones, you have to throw in the windows.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

You have to trust your skill set while also trusting your receiver to be where he's going to be. But you really got to trust yourself. You really have to trust yourself.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

Hey, also, Ocho, when you ran that. When you ran that bang. That bang eight. Yeah. You look. Hey, on that seventh step or that glass route, we call it. You call it a bang, a. You call it a glance.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

When that seventh step and the outside foot hit when I do this.

That.

[Ocho]

Ball should be right there.

[Uncle Charlie]

I mean, I don't care what that safety does. I don't care. All I know is that corner is on my outside. That ball's gonna be there. And the quarterback job is to protect me, is to protect the throat. Don't put it back here and make me do this until he can knock it down. Put it right there.

[Ocho]

And another thing.

[Uncle Charlie]

Put it right there and the safety come. I can protect myself.

[Ocho]

Listen, and don't let the safety take a goddamn bad angle. And I want to keep that thing. How about the backside and dip on there. Come out the backside. I got away with. I get. I got away with it one time. I never forget. We were playing buff the Buffalo Bills at home. Nate Clemens. Nate Clemens was guarding me. I'm not sure what that safety was thinking about, but when I took that seventh step, or like, I mean, maybe my fifth step, I was peeking at the safety and. Oh, uncle, he was in the wrong place. He was in the wrong place. He. He had his feet. He had his feet set. Instead of getting back in that pedal, he wasn't in.

[Uncle Charlie]

No, you already in the full sprint.

[Ocho]

Man, I hugged that. I hugged that bitch and went in like a damn near U turn. Hugged that bitch and came back downhill and got up out the back door.

[Uncle Charlie]

And scold, hey, we ain't got no Eagle fans tonight, don't y'?

[Rob Gronkowski]

All?

[Ocho]

They not in here.

[Uncle Charlie]

I know. Cause you know, they normally.

[Ocho]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Uncle Charlie]

Hey, what you got to say now? Oh, yo, what y' all gotta say now about the Eagles? Eagle fan? Come on, we need you get the chat up. How many we got in the chat right now? Come on, Eagle fans. I know y' all up.

[Ocho]

They might be sleep long as late.

[Uncle Charlie]

What a bird, man. Oh, yo, normally, normally. Eagles fly. Eagles fly. All you see is eagles. Everybody chat eagles across the board. Where y' all at? Oh, there you go. There one there, one there.

[Ocho]

Hey, they. They in there. They in there.

[Uncle Charlie]

But if you notice, e oo one of the wings broke the eagle like this here. He got one wing, the other one to his side. So we got to get him to a vet in advance, in the house in advance.

[Ocho]

This is a good thing.

[Uncle Charlie]

The eagle has landed. Crash landed. Yeah.

[Ocho]

This is the good thing about it, though. The running game. The running game got going a little bit. Saquon had 100 and some chains at.

[Uncle Charlie]

Night, 122 on 20 carries.

[Ocho]

Yeah, they got going. Let me see, let me see. What else? Hell, they still got a chance, huh? They still got a chance. They have a chance. They still have a chance to win the division. They have to play. They have to play.

[Uncle Charlie]

They got the Commanders twice. They got the Giants. And who else they got.

[Ocho]

The Commanders is winnable. The Commanders is winnable. Jaden Daniels is out for the season.

[Uncle Charlie]

Oh, they got Raiders Commanders.

[Ocho]

There's a win.

[Uncle Charlie]

Bills, Commanders. They ain't beating the Bills.

[Ocho]

Listen, that. That's. That's the toughest one right there. Where they playing the Bills at? They playing the Bills.

[Uncle Charlie]

It don't matter. They can play on the moon.

[Ocho]

You don't got no faith in them.

[Uncle Charlie]

No, they ain't got no faith in themselves. We've seen this movie before. Remember a couple of years ago, they got off to that great start and then they crash landed. Yes, the Eagle has crashed. Yes, we saw that. Doesn't it seem, doesn't it feel the same. The exact same way, Right.

[Ocho]

Matter of fact, this was the year before the super bowl run, actually. Yeah. The year before the Super Bowl. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

The Eagles defense played extremely well. They sacked Justin Herbert seven times.

[Ocho]

Seven times.

[Uncle Charlie]

Had he not been as mobile and athletic as he is, they probably would have got him 10 or 11 times.

[Ocho]

Yeah, way more than that. Absolutely.

[Uncle Charlie]

But look, they got to figure this thing out. They really do. I mean, you look at Hunt had two and a half sacks. Bond had a half a sack. Byron Young had a sack and a half. Nicobe Dean had a sack. Jordan Davis had a sack and a half. I mean, they were. They was on him.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

And you know what? Someone let me. Let me. For Jaylen Hurst, too. On. On two of those interceptions. One was A.J. brown's fault. One. The one that Deontay. Deontay Jackson or Dante.

[Uncle Charlie]

Deontay Johnson.

[Ocho]

That. That wasn't on Jalen Hurst. That was on Smitty. That's Smitty. Smitty, I love you.

[Uncle Charlie]

Oh, yeah. When he slipped out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

You got to come out that ball. You got to come. You got to come out that ball, and you can't stop. You got to come back to it. That.

[Uncle Charlie]

That.

[Ocho]

That was a majority. Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

And normally when you slip, when you try to plan on your inside foot and you try to roll in that foot, get out from under you.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

Instead of. Instead of draw. Hey, Ocho, instead of dropping your weight, wouldn't that weight on them quads? Maybe. I know they small. They. They ain't a whole lot. They small, Smitty, but you got to get back downhill because if you roll off that inside foot. Yeah. It's gonna get out from under you. And he's throwing it on anticipation.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

And this is what's going to happen.

[Ocho]

But it's unfortunate.

[Uncle Charlie]

Have you ever seen a turnover? There's two turnovers on one play by a guy.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Hold on. A long time ago, the New Orleans Saints was playing. I think the Redskins. Remember, somebody fumbled the ball or some. Somebody fumbled the ball. And then Robert Meacham. I think it was Robert Meacham. The Saints had the ball. It was an interception. Then Roger Meacham.

[Uncle Charlie]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But hold on. Here's the thing.

He. No, but the same guy did it, though. I know the play you talking about.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

He threw a pick. The guy fumbled.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

Robert Meachin took it from him. He went back the other way with it. Yeah, yeah. I'm talking about the same guy. He throws a pick.

[Ocho]

Oh, no, no, no, no. I've never seen that. I've never seen that.

[Uncle Charlie]

I've never seen it either. I've never. And I've seen some. Some wacky, wacky, wacky, Wacky plays out. Look, the ball bounces funny, and you see some stuff that you like, you normally wouldn't see. Who is that? I think Jacksonville playing Houston. And you talk to bat it down. He bass the ball down, Ocho, but he bass it right to a Houston Texan. I mean, to a Jacksonville Jaguar who walks in the end zone on the Hail Mary.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

Cause you knock it down, knock it down. Oh, damn. He right there knocked it down right in his arm. He walked right into the end Zone. We see Jacksonville run all. Who that was, that Jacksonville or New Orleans that run all over the field. They ran a, a, a, a lateral. Oo they battled like 40 times trying to score. They scored and then the guy come on and miss the p.

But.

They'Re.

[Ocho]

Saying it's the first time.

[Uncle Charlie]

Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I think I saw something. They said it's the first time since 78. So I don't. I don't know. But it's. It's a rare play. Ain't a whole lot of people have seen that play because NFL wasn't covered like it is now. And a lot of people weren't born in 78, so somebody might have saw it, but I have never seen it. And I've seen a lot of wacky things because I've been around since 68, been watching football since 77. Well, I've been watching to understand what I remember. The first game I probably remember is that we went over to my great grandmother's house on a Monday night to watch OJ for real? Yep. To watch OJ OJ Then was playing on a.

A Monday night, and we wanted to see. Oh, one. My grandfather wanted to see O.J. and so. But look, this game, really, the pressure starting them out on the Eagles because they had. They got up to this great start. Ocho. They were. They were four or five games clear.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah. Of everybody.

[Uncle Charlie]

They mess around and lose. They must ride and lose another game. And the cow.

[Ocho]

Hold on.

[Uncle Charlie]

How many? They've got to win. They've got to win. The Cowboys are what, five and what, six, six. One. The Cowboys are six, six and one. So theory. They've got to win.

[Ocho]

Three of the next five. Yeah, yeah. Three of the next five.

[Uncle Charlie]

Well, chalk it up for the Raiders. They gonna win. Beat the Raiders.

So, yeah, both teams got four games, so they're gonna have to. The Cowboys could only. The most the Cowboys can win is 10, right? They could be 10, 6 and 1.

Raiders went Raiders. The Eagles win three of their last four. They get 11. 11 is more than 10.

It'd be very interesting to see if they go 2 and 2.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Charlie]

Because now the Cowboys win. Because The Cowboys is 10 and 6:1 and y' all will be 10 and 7.

Green Bay toughed out a home win against the Bears, team that had won nine of the past 10 coming in and knocked them off, the defending super bowl champs on Black Friday. Green Bay hasn't allowed more than 16 points in any of his three losses. Christian Watson looked like a true number one receiver Green Bay has beaten the Lions twice and the Bears once so far this season.

For the winners, Jordan Love 1725 234, three touchdowns, one pick. Josh Jacobs 20 carries, 86 yards, one touchdown. Christian Watson had four. Had four catches, 89 yards, two touchdowns. Along the 41 on four targets. He caught everything. Bo Melton 1 catch, 45 yards. He had two targets. Jane Daniels had four targets cat four catches, 31 yards. They played extremely well. Caleb Williams he was 19 of 35, 186, two touchdowns, one interception. They ran the ball 32 times for 138 yards.

They made plays. Green Bay defense bowed their back when they need to. I'm sure Williams wish he could have that throwback Ocho because he would just one which one get his hips around fast enough and throw it and he'll allow the. The safety to get back in and make a play. But when you watch this game it just. That's what's the frustrating part. You see Jordan Love and how he just throws the ball. And then some games you just look at him like Jordan, what are you doing?

[Ocho]

What was that seeing?

[Uncle Charlie]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Oh, he man, what is.

[Uncle Charlie]

Hey, I'm Elgato. But.

The Packers.

337 total yards. Really clean game. Nice game. Let's see team stats here.

[Ocho]

Josh Jacob was 20, 20 for 20 carries, 86 yards in the TD. Christian Watson led. All the receivers were 4 for 89.

[Uncle Charlie]

And two TDs both teams. Green Bay was 8 or 12 on fourth down, third down. Chicago was 8 of 16 on third down, 1 of 2 on fourth downs. Chicago had 68 total plays. Green Bay had 52. Green Chicago had 315 total yards. Packers had three hundred and thirty seven. Both had nine total drives. Chicago had the ball 30 almost 34 minutes.

Packers had it for 26.

This.

[Ocho]

Hey, they gotta. They, they got, they got, they got off the Caleb real well. They had him uncomfortable most of the game. They had it uncomfortable most of the game. Blitzing, bringing pressure. And then the Bears had a good, good offensive game plan for that. Doing a lot of misdirection, rolling them out to get him away from the pressure. But man, it that last drive, it was the last drive I think was a third or fourth down that fourth.

[Uncle Charlie]

Down with the interception.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That pulled down with the interception. Ah, man, that was a good game. I know the Bears lost, but that was a really, really good game with a very good deep, a very good packers defense.

I mean shoot, ain't really much I could say about that one Bro, they played well.

[Uncle Charlie]

Yeah, I think, look, I think that. I think Chicago is ahead of schedule, Ocho. With how well they're playing. Yeah. But I think they're going to only get better. I, I think they have a very, very bright future. They have the quarterback. They got a running game. They got good quality receivers. They got two tight ends. They revamp the offensive line. I like the defense. The defense is really good. But Green Bay just, you know, Green Bay, when they had to dig deep and when they needed to make a stop, they got it. And, and sometimes that's what it come. Look, this is division game. This is the oldest. This is the oldest rivalry in the NFL. They've been playing each other 100 plus years, so.

We'Re not. They've got a. Probably. They got over 100 matchups. They. I think the packers were the first team in 19, 19, 19 20. I think the Bears were shortly there after that. So they probably got damn near 200 matchups between the two of them. But when you look at lo. The division rival, it doesn't matter if they're good. If one team is good, the other team is bad. You already know what you're going to get. We see each other every year. We've been in the same. It used to be the NFC Central, now it's the NFC North. We know what to expect. We don't like you. We're. We're about two hours away from each other. Green Bay and Chicago. You don't like us, we don't like you.

[Ocho]

Let's get like you.

Ah, damn.

[Uncle Charlie]

But I like, I like what I saw from. I like what's up from Green Bay. I like the throws that.

Jordan love, man. He, he. I mean, he just, his mannerism just reminds you so much of Aaron Rodgers.

[Ocho]

You're like Rogers.

[Uncle Charlie]

Yeah, damn. But I mean, he. Throw it off his back foot.

But he, he made, he made plays when they had to have him. His receivers stepped up and made catches when they had to have him. Now, Christian Watson, man, he can play if he can just stay healthy. Ocho.

Fly. He got great hands. He run good. He run good routes. It's just his ability to stay healthy. And when you have that kind of speed, Ocho, you know you're gonna have normally have hamstring problems. I'm surprised that's something Tyreek really never faced. Because, you know, most B guys, Ocho, they have hamstring issues. They have, you know, soft tissue injuries. You know, Joel Galloway was, Was plagued with hamstring issues, but Christian Watson had that he tore his knee. But he's come back and he's playing. He's playing extremely, extremely, extremely, extremely well. Yeah, but Caleb Williams is going to get better. Look, it's a little setback and I'm sure he loved to have that throw.

I mean, he. You don't have to, you don't have to get really out all the way outside. I know that's what you like. Try to put pressure on the defense by getting there right now. But hey, if that guy's open, pull up and pop it. Pull up and let him have.

[Ocho]

Yeah, right now.

[Uncle Charlie]

Rashid hit. Rasheed Shahid returned the second half opening kickoff 400 yards. Touchdown. And the Seahawks blow out the hapless Falcons 37 to 9. The Seahawks broke away with a 66 tie at halftime with a 31 point beat down in the second half and the Falcons. Whoo. The Seattle's defense came up with three turnovers that the Seahawks won for the seventh time in eighth game in eight games. Darnold threw 249 yards, three touchdown. A pair of scores to Jackson. JSN Jackson Smith and another one to Cooper Cup.

[Ocho]

Hey, JSN Balling.

[Uncle Charlie]

Oh, man.

[Ocho]

Every week.

[Uncle Charlie]

Yeah, he had a little temporary shut down last week. They did a great job of, you know, bracket him and, and making it tough on him. But you look at, he had seven catches for 92 yards on 10 targets.

Shahid had four for 67. Cub had two for 35 on a touchdown on three targets. They, they look.

[Ocho]

Hey, that's a nice little trio. Quietly. That's a nice little trio. You got Jackson, who can do everything, intermediate, short. Cooper cup, who's a tremendous out route runner and Rashid Shahid could take the top off a goddamn building man. Perfect. Perfect combination. Perfect trio or receivers.

[Uncle Charlie]

I thought the game got away from him. Looked like Atlanta was going in the score and then Bijan fumbled the football and they really didn't look bad after that. I mean, it kind of broke their back once they fumbled that football because they go down there and they get a score. Cousins turned the ball over three times, twice with the fumble. So they had three turnovers. And it's hard. It is hard to overcome when you have three turnovers. It's hard and you're playing a good team. The Seahawks is a quality team. They are a quality team. They're going to be a tough out because they can run the football. They got a quarterback. Now look, the question is, will Sam Darnold turn back into that pumpkin if you put pressure on them in the playoffs because we saw that last year when he went to.

[Ocho]

I think that was Detroit in the first round.

[Uncle Charlie]

Yeah, but they got a defense. They got two corners that can lock it down. They got press, they can bring pressure. Demarcus Lawrence has found new life. Jaren Reed, I mean, they got Leonard Williams, they gotta, they got a really solid defense and they got Wolin and Spoon, the safety to come up and thump you and they got the grid and coverage.

They're good. They're gonna be, they're gonna be tough out for somebody. They're gonna be a tough out for somebody. Ocho.

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[Uncle Charlie]

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[Uncle Charlie]

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[Rob Gronkowski]

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[Uncle Charlie]

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