BEST OF NFL Week 18 Part 1: SACK KING Myles Garrett, Matt Stafford vs Drake Maye MVP Debate

Summary

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Club Shay Shay – “BEST OF NFL Week 18 Part 1: SACK KING Myles Garrett, Matt Stafford vs Drake Maye MVP Debate”

Date: January 7, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Co-host: Ocho
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts and Shay Shay Media

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Episode Overview

This dynamic Week 18 recap episode, co-hosted by Shannon Sharpe and Ocho, is an energetic rundown of NFL regular season finales, playoff jockeying, standout performances and milestones, coaching debates, and bold predictions for the postseason. The focus is on record-shattering performances (especially by “Sack King” Myles Garrett), heated MVP races (Matt Stafford vs. Drake Maye), and the crucial matchups and storylines as the playoffs loom.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Broncos Secure AFC’s #1 Seed (02:15–04:56)

• Broncos clinch AFC’s top seed after defeating the Chargers 19–3, tying their franchise record for regular season wins (14) and earning the top playoff seed for the first time since 2015.
• Both hosts emphasize the importance of execution even when teams "don't show their hand" before playoffs.
• Chargers rested their starters, and Broncos capitalized but “didn’t look pretty” in Sharpe’s words.

Quote:
"Just because you don’t show your hand, that doesn’t mean you lack execution. They look bad. And think about it: the Chargers didn’t play any of their starters offensively or defensively, right?" — Shannon Sharpe (03:45)

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2. Vikings' Resilience, McCarthy’s Injuries, and Jefferson’s Streak (04:57–06:14)

• Vikings cruise past Packers 16–3 for a fifth straight win, despite QB JJ McCarthy’s ongoing injury woes.
• Justin Jefferson hits 100 receiving yards for the first time in 12 games and becomes just the third receiver with six straight 1,000-yard seasons.

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3. Coaching Carousel & Playoff Seeding Q&A (06:22–08:28)

• Should the Giants pursue John Harbaugh if available? Sharpe says yes, though thinks Harbaugh’s “voice is a little stale in that locker room.”
• Confusion on playoff tiebreakers and reinforcement that “winning the division matters.”

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4. Lions’ Disappointment & Injuries Derailing Playoff Push (08:29–09:51 / 11:41–13:04)

• Sharpe and Ocho dissect the Lions’ season-ending 19–16 win over Chicago and lament Detroit’s postseason miss after recent deep playoff runs.
• Jared Goff’s numbers: 27/42, 331 yds, 1 TD/1 INT; Jameer Gibbs and Amon-Ra St. Brown starred but injuries and inconsistency derailed their campaign.
• Discussion of recurring “Texas route” dominance by Gibbs.

Memorable Moment:
"If brains were dynamite, you couldn’t blow your nose." — Shannon Sharpe on poor linebacker awareness (09:51, 13:04)

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5. Caleb Williams' Historic Rookie Year (09:51/13:04)

• Despite a lack of team rushing in the finale, Williams sets Bears franchise record for passing yards in a season.
• Noted the Bears are still the only NFL team never to have a 4,000-yard passer in a single season.

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6. Eagles’ Strategy: Resting Starters and Playoff Matchup with 49ers (18:21–21:34)

• Nick Sirianni’s approach—resting starters in the finale, sacrificing better seeding for healthier players.
• Both hosts agree: "There's much more to lose than to gain" from pushing injured starters—especially since only the top seed earns a bye.

Quote:
“I want you to heal. I want you to be fresh. I don’t care what seed we are… we still gotta play the game of football.” — Ocho (19:21)

• Rematch narrative: Eagles face 49ers, recalling Purdy’s injury in their last postseason clash.

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7. Backup Quarterbacks Longevity & Roles (23:24–24:06)

• Long careers of QBs like Josh Johnson, Josh McCown, and Ryan Fitzpatrick discussed—backup QBs can stick around nearly 20 years, starters find it harder to adjust to being backups late in their careers.

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8. Eagles vs. 49ers Playoff Preview & Matchup Analysis (25:46–26:35)

• Ocho contends Eagles match up “bar for bar” with 49ers, especially able to “stifle McCaffrey” and counter Shanahan’s offensive creativity.

Confident Prediction:
"It’s a perfect matchup for the Eagles defense. I got them winning the game anyway." — Ocho (26:13)

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9. Stafford vs. Maye: MVP Debate & Offensive Stats Explosion (37:12–42:32)

• Stafford leads league in both passing yards (4,747) and TDs (46), vaulting him ahead of Drake Maye for MVP in the hosts’ estimation.
• Puka Nakua sets league marks in receptions and yardage, while JSN leads in yardage.
• Brief on Devante Adams’ continued reliability and the evolution of the wide receiver stats era.

Quote:
"I think Matthew Stafford's gonna win the MVP. He’s probably going to be Rookie of the Year as well." — Shannon Sharpe (41:56)

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10. Defensive & Rookie Awards: Myles Garrett Makes History (78:20–90:48)

• Myles Garrett sets the all-time NFL single-season sack record (23), surpassing legends like Michael Strahan and TJ Watt.
• There’s consternation from Bengals coach Zac Taylor about the in-game celebration stoppage for Garrett’s record. Sharpe corrects: “The refs don't make that decision. The NFL made a decision.” (80:02)
• Sharpe and Ocho refuse to discount the achievement based on number of games played, noting that such caveats never came up for older records.

Notable Quote:
"The NFL sack record is 23. Myles Garrett holds it. So I don’t want to hear nothing about games… Don’t try to shortchange the man." — Shannon Sharpe (89:00)

• Discussion on how rare truly great sack/INT/catch totals are in NFL history.

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11. Breakout: Seattle Seahawks’ Defensive Dominance & Playoff Outlook (46:45–58:18)

• Seahawks win at 49ers, locking up #1 seed behind a defense that stifled Brock Purdy, Christian McCaffrey and the Shanahan attack.
• Deep praise for DC Mike Macdonald’s schemes, Sam Darnold’s mistake-free play, and the difference the Seattle secondary makes.
• JSN’s receiving records and the “12th Man” home-field advantage highlighted as enormous X-factors.

Memorable Moment:
"If the Seahawks play like this, there ain’t a team in NFC to beat them… you’re gonna catch hell going to Seattle." — Shannon Sharpe (50:42–51:26)

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12. Jags Ascent & Underappreciated Coaching (68:53–71:48)

• Jaguars clinch the AFC South and hosts credit offensive coordinator Liam Coen for Trevor Lawrence’s breakout.
• Broader discussion on the critical importance of coaching and pairing with proper talent.

Quote:
"Coaching matters. Yes, coaching matters." — Shannon Sharpe (70:48)

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13. End-of-Season Banter & Franchises in Limbo (various)

• Playful back-and-forth between hosts over their favorite teams and “front-runner” accusations.
• Light-hearted complaints about team gear and allegiances (73:05–77:59).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Exchanges

• “Just because you don’t show your hand, that doesn’t mean you lack execution.” — Shannon Sharpe (03:45)
• “If brains were dynamite, you couldn’t blow your nose.” — Shannon Sharpe (09:51, 13:04)
• “I want you to heal. I want you to be fresh. I don’t care what seed we are… we still gotta play the game of football.” — Ocho (19:21)
• “It’s a perfect matchup for the Eagles defense. I got them winning the game anyway.” — Ocho (26:13)
• “The NFL sack record is 23. Myles Garrett holds it. So I don’t want to hear nothing about games… Don’t try to shortchange the man.” — Shannon Sharpe (89:00)
• “If the Seahawks play like this, there ain’t a team in NFC to beat them… you’re gonna catch hell going to Seattle.” — Shannon Sharpe (50:42–51:26)
• “Coaching matters. Yes, coaching matters.” — Shannon Sharpe (70:48)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Broncos clinch #1 seed & Chargers game: 02:15–04:56
• Vikings, McCarthy injury, Jefferson streak: 04:57–06:14
• Coaching/Seeding Q&A, Giants & Harbaugh: 06:22–08:28
• Lions' letdown & offensive analysis: 08:29–09:51; 11:41–13:04
• Eagles playoff approach/49ers matchup: 18:21–21:34
• Backup quarterbacks & roles: 23:24–24:06
• Eagles vs. 49ers preview: 25:46–26:35
• Stafford vs. Maye MVP/Ball distribution: 37:12–42:32
• Seahawks' defensive mastery & playoff threat: 46:45–58:18
• Myles Garrett breaks sack record, legacy talk: 78:20–90:48
• Jaguars resurgence & coaching focus: 68:53–71:48

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Tone & Style

The conversation is lively, competitive, and infused with classic Sharpe wit and Ocho’s easygoing humor. The analysis is incisive but informal, with playful banter and spicy takes throughout.

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In summary:
This episode blends expert breakdowns of critical Week 18 results with context-setting for the NFL playoffs, celebrating all-time great feats (like Myles Garrett’s sack record), dissecting MVP races, praising underappreciated coaching, and projecting potential showdowns. It’s a must-listen for understanding the 2025 postseason landscape and appreciating the electric personalities of Club Shay Shay.

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See Terms hello, it's your favorite sports funk here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you, so please subscribe or you're gonna make OO cry. Broncos secured the AFC top seed in the playoffs in the AFC thanks to a 1913 victory over the Chargers. The Broncos 143 tied their franchise record for the most victories in a regular season and earned their first number one playoff seed since 2015, the year they parlayed that into a Super Bowl. And guess where the super bowl was held at that year? You guessed it, Levi Stadium in San Francisco. B Knicks had one of his worst games of the season, throwing for just 38 yards in the first half and 148, 141 yards overall. But he tied Russell Wilson record 24 wins in his first two seasons, helping the Bronco grind grind out another tough win. And now the season truly starts, right? Riley Moss. You win or you go home. So the stakes are high and we're going to be ready to roll in two weeks. Broncos host their playoff game and host their first home playoff game in a decade, which could be the Chargers 11 and 6 if they'll beat the Patriots at New England and the wild card game. Look, I get it. Nobody really wanted to show their hand. But even if you don't show your hand, guess what I want to do? Ooh. I want to execute.

[Co-host]

What? Yeah.

[Host]

Just because you don't show your hand, that doesn't mean you lack execution. They look bad. And think about it. The Chargers didn't play any of their starters offensively or defensively, right? If they'll kick you.

[Co-host]

They won't worry about this, huh? They won't worry about this. I guarantee you. It wasn't but a poker face. It didn't matter.

[Host]

How many seasonal did they have? What, 65? They didn't break the record. Record 72, I think by the 84. Bears. Had four sacks. Nick Benito had what had 68. They're for short. Damn. Nick Benito ends with 14. Zach Allen. But you know, we rest up. Oo get ready.

[Co-host]

Who is we?

[Host]

The Broncos Vikings cruise fast, resting Packer 163 for their fifth straight win as McCarthy exit again with an injury. JJ McCarthy had a productive first half before he was injured again. He missed seven games and parts of two others. Multiple injuries after knee surgery that wiped out his rookie season. McCarthy was 14 to 23, 182 yards left early in the third quarter with soreness in his throwing hand. Back up, Max. Baltimore took it from there, helping Justin Jefferson reached the 100 yard mark for the first time in 12 games as the Vikings finished the season 9 and 8. And they coasted to the fifth consecutive victory. Jetta also started his career six straight 1,000 yard seasons. Only Randy Moss and Mike Evans have been able to do that. J.J. mcCarthy 1423, 182 Max Balmer, bomer 7 of 857 yards. They ran the ball 31 times for 137. Jetta 8 catches, 103 yards. Jaylen Naylor 3 for 49. But they win. Green Bay rested everybody. They better come ready to play.

[Co-host]

You got to. You got to. And I think they will be ready to play offensively.

[Host]

Yes. They got the Bears. They got a very familiar opponent.

[Co-host]

Yeah, you know how those games go.

[Host]

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[Co-host]

Boy, it's almost 2 o'.

[Host]

Clock.

[Co-host]

I got work at 5 o'.

[Host]

Clock. Oh Lord Byron underscore Double Deuce. Should the Giants pursue John harbor if the Raven decide to part ways? Absolutely. He's a very good coach, but I think his voice is little stale in that locker room. Georgia Powerade Justin take Justin Tucker would have never. Probably not. Justin Tucker every big postseason field goal he's made. But I mean you can understand the situation given the circumstances and what was transpired. You understand the Ravens moving on. Why do the Steelers get higher seed than the Texans? Makes no sense. Because they won the division. The division matters. Your team did. Your team didn't win the division. That's how it works. I know they're trying to say well the team that wins the most game. But there should be value placed on winning the division. Ocho the Lions beat the playoff bound bears 19 16. Bates 42 yard field goal as time expired. Jerry Goff and Detroit Lions ended the season as their sights on the Super Bowl. Now they're missing the playoff. It's frustrating. Coach Dan Campbell said. So that's what fuse you. Well, we don't want to be doing that again next year. That's not where we want to be. We've got to get in. Remember a couple years ago there's the NFC championship game. They lost the divisional game. Divisional. They lost the NFC championship game to the 49ers. They lost in a divisional round when they're the number one seed to the commanders. And then this year they completely missed the postseason.

[Co-host]

Yeah, but obviously they, they, they had too many injuries. They had too many injuries defensively. Obviously when you had that many injuries, you have to be on point offensive. You can't put the ball in harm's way. Jared Goff has had some games where he turned the ball over. But the offense sputtered. They didn't look like they've always looked. Obviously coach Dan Campbell going forward and being very. Being very aggressive.

[Host]

He had 11 foot. Jared Golf with 30, 27 to 42. 331. One touchdown, one interception. Jameer Gibbs 19 for 80. Armin Ross, St. Brown. Ocho 11 catches a buck 39. No touchdown. Jameson Williams 6 for 74. No touchdown. Khalif Raymond 3 for 52. Jameer Gibbs 3 for 30. Y' all don't listen to me. I keep telling y', all, do not let the bat cross your face. Ocho, how many times have we seen Jameer Gibbs score a touchdown on that Texas route where he causes the linebacker's face?

[Co-host]

Yeah, every time they think I'm just making this up. Hey, that's a mismatch too, huh? Ain't. Ain't really no backer gonna be able to do anything with him anyway.

[Host]

What do you tell. What do they tell you? What do they. What do we always as an offensive player, always. What do we say we've got across the defender's face. As a defender, what is the defensive coordinator telling you? Don't let what happen, Ocho, don't let.

[Co-host]

Him cross your face.

[Host]

I be damn, son. Sometimes I tell you, if brains were dynamite, you couldn't blow your nose. Jeez. Caleb Williams finished this, finished the regular season 20 or 33. 212. Two touchdowns, one interceptions. They didn't run the ball particularly well. I think they're coming into the game there was the third best rushing team in the in the league. But today the Lions held him in check. 18 carries, 65 yards. Coastal Loveland 10 catches, 91 yards on a touchdown. Hey, excuse me. Walker, two catches, 36 yards a touchdown. Luther Burton III, three catches, 35 yards cold command, one catch. He did catch a fifth catch, the two point conversion. But if I'm not mistaken, I think co Caleb Williams finished the season with the most passing yards and in Bears history, am I correct? They still they're the only team in NFL history oo that have yet to have a quarterback pass for 4,000 yards. But if I'm not mistaken, I think Caleb Williams has the most passing. Oo the Lions beat the playoff bound be is 1916 Bates 42 yard field goal as time expired. Jerry Goff and Detroit Lions end of the season as the sights on the Super Bowl. Now they're missing the playoff. It's frustrating. Coach Dan Campbell said. So that's what fused you. Well, we don't want to be Doing that again next year. That's not where we want to be. We've got to get in. Remember a couple years ago, there's the NFC Championship game. They lost the divisional game. Divisional. They lost the NFC championship game to the 49ers. They lost in a divisional round when they're the number one seed to the Commanders. And then this year, they completely missed the postseason.

[Co-host]

Yeah, obviously they. They had too many injuries. They had too many injuries defensively, obviously, when you had that many injuries, you have to be on point, offensive. You can't put the ball in harm's way. Jared Goff has had some games where he turned the ball over, but the offense sputtered. They didn't look like they've always looked. Obviously Dan Campbell going forward and, and being very. What's the word? Being very aggressive.

[Host]

He had 11. Jared Golf with 30, 27 to 42, 331. One touchdown, one interception. Jameer Gibbs, 19 for 80. Armin Ross, St. Brown, Ocho, 11 catches, a buck 39. No touchdown. Jameson Williams, 6 for 74, no touchdown. Khalif Raymond, 3 for 52. Jamer gives 3 for 30. Y' all don't listen to me. I keep telling y', all, do not let the bat cross your face. Ocho, how many times have we seen Jibbs score touchdown on that Texas route where he causes the linebacker's face?

[Co-host]

Yeah, every time they think I'm just making this up. Hey, that's a mismatch too, huh? Ain't. Ain't really no backer gonna be able to do anything with him anyway.

[Host]

What do you tell. What do they tell you? What do they. What do we always. As an offensive player, what do we say? We've got across the defender's face. As a defender. What is the defensive coordinator telling you? Don't let what happen?

[Co-host]

Ocho, don't let him cross your face.

[Host]

I'll be damn, son. Sometimes I tell you, if brains were dynamite, you couldn't blow your nose. Jeez. Caleb Williams finished this, finished the regular season 20 or 33. 212, two touchdowns, one interceptions. They didn't run the ball particularly well. I think they're coming into the game. There was the third best rushing team in the. In the league, but today the Lions held him in check. 18 carries, 65 yards. Coast and Loveland, 10 catches, 91 yards of the touchdown. Hey, excuse me. Walker, two catches, 36 yards, a touchdown. Luther Burton III, three catches, 35 yards. Cold commit, one catch. He did catch a fif catch, the two point conversion. But if I'M not mistaken. I think co Caleb Williams finished the season with the most passing yards in in Bears history. Am I correct? They still they're the only team in NFL history oo that have yet to have a quarterback pass for 4,000 yards. But if I'm not mistaken, I think Caleb Williams has the most every Lenovo.

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Ocho's Eagles Nick Zaryani stood by resting many of his starters in the regular season finale against the Commanders, even though the decision negatively affected his team seating. The Eagles needed to win over Washington day plus a Bears loss. Excuse me. To the Lions to move into the number two seed. Yes, the two seed. Instead they lost and so they get the number three seed. The Lions held up their end. They won 19 to 16 over. But the Eagles lost 24 17, locking them into the three seed on the matchup with the six seeded 49ers. Remember Ocho?

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host]

Two years, three years ago, this was the matchup in which Purdy hurt his arm and basically they had to run wildcat. Christian McCaffrey was trying to throw passes, Debo was trying to throw passes. So this is kind of rematch for the NFC championship game. Oh. Do you have any problem with the Eagles doing what they did?

[Co-host]

Absolutely not. Sirianni. Sirianni. I'm sure Sirianni talked to the boys. Listen, I'm a rush, y'. All. I want y' all nice, fresh and healthy for those of you that are banged up, I want. For those of you that are hurt right now or have little nicks and whatever it may be, I'm gonna give you a week off because I want you to heal. I want you to be fresh. I don't care what seed we are. I don't care what scene we are. We gonna find out who we playing. Y' all gonna sit here and watch all my backups and my third stringers. Y' all getting all your action today. Y' all getting your action day. Whether we win or not. I'm not tripping. We're not worried about the results on anyone else's game and what it. Where it puts us at. Whatever season we at, y' all gonna be ready to go when it's time to play. Honestly, I like it. I like it. Especially with the way. The way they've looked. They've been up and down all season long. Nah, it's one game now. It's one game, I go home. It's one game. I go home. It don't matter. It don't matter where we seated. We don't really see it. It's still one game. We don't care. We don't care whether we get a high seat or we get a low seed. We still gotta play the game of football.

[Host]

Seem like any of these teams can't kick your ass. They're in the playoffs at this point. At this point, they're in the playoffs. But. And I get it, it's like, well, wouldn't you rather face the Packers? No, I'd rather place nobody. But unfortunately, I gotta play somebody to advance. Ain't nobody forfeited. Everybody's gonna show up. They're gonna. Look, they're gonna tee the ball up. They're gonna kick it off to us first. So we're gonna kick it off to them first. But at some point in time, we're gonna play 60 minutes. And if we don't just get it done in 60 minutes, we're gonna go overtime for 10 minutes, but we're gonna decide, and somebody's gonna advance. It's really that simple. So you. Man, I'd rather play this team. And you must run and catch a hot team. And they light your ass up, then what?

[Co-host]

Yep, and you be mad. As a matter of fact, that hot team that light your ass up could be a lower seed.

[Host]

And what happens? You go out there and you get Jalen Hurts nicked. You go get Devonte Devonte played, But you get A.J. nick, or you get one of those defense, you get Michael Mitchell. Excuse me, Mitchell or Dijon. You get them, Nick. Then what, man, I don't know why you played them. You already in the playoffs.

[Co-host]

Yeah, it was smart. It was smart.

[Host]

I agree.

[Co-host]

It was smart.

[Host]

I agree. I thought. I think in a situation like that, there's much more to lose than game. Yeah, because it's not like. It's not like. Okay, if we now, if there's an opportunity for us to get a buy, I guarantee you he'd have played them. If it was like it was before Ocho, would you get two buys? Yeah, I guarantee you he'd have played them. But when now there's only opportunity if there's only going to be one buy. And that buys was already substantiated. Was. Was validated last night. No, I'm good, cuz. I ain't gonna get no guys, Nick. Hell no. F y' all makes. So that's where we are right now, Ocho. Josh Johnson. When was the last time this is the first touchdown pass Josh Johnson throw in how long? His first win was the last time Josh Johnson won a game.

[Co-host]

How long. How long has been.

[Host]

Well, he ain't won that many. He won that video.

[Co-host]

Josh. Hey, Josh done played for a few teams, huh?

[Host]

This is the first game he's. This is the second game he's won in his whole career. Real. I think it's his first touchdown pass he throws since 21.

[Co-host]

But hey, hey, congratulations to Josh, man.

[Host]

Since 21.

[Co-host]

Congrats, bro.

[Host]

Hey, hey, keep drawing C. Stay there as long as you can make them kick you out. Hey, hey, y' all can't have a kick. Hey, y' all will kick me out.

[Co-host]

Hey, one thing about being a backup quarterback, you could play that thing damn near 20 years.

[Host]

You can be a backup quarterback when you don't have expect when you haven't been great, great players. Is hard for them to be a backup, right?

[Co-host]

Well, good players can be a backup.

[Host]

When that's mainly what you've been is a backup.

[Co-host]

Hey, you're serviceable.

[Host]

Yes, yes. You get a guy like Josh McCown, you get a guy like Fitzpatrick, they gonna play 15, 16, 17, 18 years. But when you've been a starter. See, when you've been a starter, Ocho, no matter how old you get, people have the same level of expectations it takes.

[Co-host]

Are you being.

[Host]

People have the same level of expectation for LeBron at 41 they have for him at 27? See, he don't get to be that role player to coming off the bench the seventh, eighth guy play 15, 16 years. Nah, bro. They see LeBron James, right? Aaron Rodgers, any great player, they see that. All they see is Aaron Rodgers. They expect Aaron Rodgers to be a four time league mvp. So that's why. That's why it's easy. You see the guy, man. Man, that joker played how many years? A bunch of years. Ain't starting none of them. They don't. They not let me and you get those years, Ocho. Oh, nah. But that's all you. Okay. All right. Going home. That's all you got. You could. You could go home now, but no, I don't have a. I don't have a problem. I thought Tanner McKee, like Tanner McKee was 21 of 42. 41, one touchdown, one interception. Tank Big Bigsby 16 for 75. They ran the ball 19 times for 80 yards, basically four yards of carry. Devonte got his thousand yards right? That's what Devonte needed.

[Co-host]

He needed.

[Host]

Got his thousand yard. Let devonte get his thousand. Get up out of there and get him up.

[Co-host]

Get him up out of there.

[Host]

I thought Jeremiah Trotter Jr. Played well. He stuffed the run. His dad, that's what his dad was. Dad would come down here.

[Co-host]

Hey, he was a thump. He was a thumper boy.

[Host]

But no, I thought. Look, he. He did. They did what they were supposed to do. Let's get healthy, right? Let's gear up. Hey, we're at home. We. Look, we know what. We know what the 49ers represent. But I want to be healthy. I want my guys as healthy as possible going into this ball game.

[Co-host]

Right? And this. This is a funny thing about it, too. The 49ers, as great as they are offensively, the defense.

[Host]

Not that good. Is not. They don't have no rushes.

[Co-host]

Yeah. That's why I said. Hold on. That's why I said offensively. But the Eagles match up with their ass bar for bar on every level at the receiver position, being able to stifle McCaffrey. The Eagles are one of the few teams that have a defense that can deal with all the things that Shanahan offense does well.

[Host]

I agree.

[Co-host]

So that's why. Hey, that's. That's even better. I know who we got. We got who? Okay. Bet. Hold. Hold my beer. That's gonna be a good game. It's gonna be a good game. But I, I. Obviously, because the Eagles defense is so good and because they match up well, it's a, It's. It's a perfect matchup for the Eagles defense. I got them winning the game anyway.

[Host]

It's going to be a good game. It's going to be a very good game. But right now, the two hottest teams going into the playoffs, the Seahawks and the Jacksonville Jags.

[Co-host]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Host]

Jacksonville Jags, man. Absolutely.

[Co-host]

Hey, I don't know what Trevor Lawrence did before the season. I don't know what young boy did before the season started.

[Host]

Yeah. But the Eagles, the number three seed, draw the number six seed. And the San Francisco 49ers. That game is on Sunday, so tune in. Let's see if the Eagles. Eagles start their quest to repeat as super bowl champs. Gonna be a very interesting matchup. You get Brock, Purdy gets Jalen hurts. May the best team win.

[Co-host]

Hey, one game, huh?

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[Host]

The Giants beat the Cowboys 3414 in the season finale. Giants owner John Meyer got a season ending gift from the team three months into his cancer treatment. Mara got a game ball in an emotional locker room scene after the Giants beat the Cowboys to finish their loss their loss season on a two game winning streak beating Dallas. In other results around the NFL took the Giants out of the running for the top pick in the draft. Made them fall to the fifth pick. Here's the current order of the draft. The Las Vegas Raiders Pick number one the Jets Pick number two Cardinals Pick three Titans four Giants fifth Brown six Commander seventh Saints eighth Chiefs Night Bengals tenth.

[Co-host]

And we, and we got, we got a ten pick. I don't, I, I know, I know for us I can only speak on us. I can't speak on any other teams and what their needs may be. But I know what our need is. Our need is defense. So with that 10 pick, we're going defense. I'm not sure what position.

[Host]

Well, I tell you what, if Bane is there, you better take him.

[Co-host]

Bane is not making it past five.

[Host]

I can tell you that right now. Fernando Mamdoza is number one. Dante Moore is number two. Avril Reese, a linebacker by Ohio State is three. Reuben Bain Jr. Four to the Titans. Carnell Tate, number five, wide receiver, Ohio State. Jordan Tyson, ride receiver, Arizona State. Cleveland. Caleb Downs, safety, Ohio State Commanders Jeremiah Love, running back, Saints. Spencer for now offensive. They know off his attacker, Utah David Bailey edge, Texas Tech Bengals. That's the early pre draft. That's what they, you know, that's where they have marked. That's the early mark, right?

[Co-host]

I mean obviously some of those things will change outside of the top three. The top three are sealed and sealed and delivered. Sealed and delivered. Especially obviously with the first pick. Whoever has the first pick, obviously they need a quarterback.

[Host]

Raiders and Jets.

[Co-host]

Yeah, this is, yeah, this is what bothers me. This is what bothers me. When you have teams that are picking first, you know you're getting the quarterback, but the quarterback can go into such a bad team. Most of the time the quarterbacks are not the type of quarterbacks that can elevate your franchise right away. You're just not. And they don't have enough, they don't have enough around them for them to play up to their standards and that's the part that actually sucks. And then most of the time they also don't have the motherfucking patience to develop said quarterbacks that they pick with the first pick.

[Host]

I mean most people, Ocho, when they spend 30, 40 million, $50 million for a house, are you going to wait three years to move in or you trying to move in right away?

[Co-host]

Well, when you, hey, listen, when you put it that way, hey, when you put it that way, but also you un understand what you're picking. You know good and goddamn well if you have a franchise altering quarterback or not with the first pick, you already know because you're watching film, right? You're watching film. You know if you bring him in what it's going to look like. If you know you ain't got nothing for him to work with.

[Host]

You right? You ain't, you ain't wrong when you're right. Dak Prescott was 7 of 1170 yards. Joe Milton was 7 to 1373 yards. Ryan Flournoy was 5 or 68 span. Ford was 2 of 30. George Pickens one of nine. See, he had one for four. Look, I think the thing is I, I love the fact that, that Dak. They got Dak out. Dak don't need to have any more off season surgery. He comes back healthy. They just need to build the defense. I think they have. I would bring, I would look to try to bring Javante Williams back. I'm doing everything I possibly can to bring pick back, but I'm also looking to rebuild my offensive line. Now maybe, maybe they take the left guard, Smith and kick him out the left tackle and take Guyton from left tackle and moving to right tackle. Maybe you mix and match some pieces like that, but you got to get better defensively. Okay? You do. You got better. You need better backers, you need another premium rusher outside. And I'm not so sure you don't need safety help or maybe even a corner because you lost. You lost Trayvon Diggs. I don't know the extent of Daron Bland's injury, but you got to get better defensively if you want to compete. You just do. Yeah, because you look at Seattle, you look at the Rams, you look at the 49ers, you look at the Eagles, you look at the teams and that. Bro. Bro.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host]

You're behind them big time. You're behind them. You need multiple pieces. They need one or they need one piece, maybe two pieces. You need multiple.

[Co-host]

Yeah, but. But also, you have to think how long it took those, those teams you just named, how long it took. How long did it take them to get to that point where they only need one or two pieces? Ah, man, that's crazy.

[Host]

David Clown had himself today. He did have three sacks today. They're definitely gonna look to bring him back, but I'm not so sure. Other teams are not going to get involved. Now. How many sacks do they even have? Like eight, eight sacks. Now all of a sudden he ain't gonna be playing. Looking to be playing on a 3,4 million dollar deal. You're gonna be looking to get 8 to 10.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host]

Eight and a half. Matthew Stafford threw four touchdown passes. Ocho Rams beat the Cardinals 3720 to secure the number five seed to prepare for the playoffs. Rams dress starters dress their starters for a mer a fairly meaningless regular season finale to and an opponent that hadn't won in two months. The Rams didn't even look ready for the bodies test, let alone the postseason. When Sean McVay players found themselves trailing late in the third. Matthew Stafford said it was what we needed to happen. It kind of put Our minds into it. Matthew Stafford passes Dan Marino for seventh on the NFL career touchdown list while finishing his career. Excuse me, his season with an MVP caliber. He led the league in passing yards. 4, 747. He led the league in passing touchdowns, 46, the second most in league history by a quarterback at least 37 years of age or older. Yeah, he's the MVP. You go look at his sportsbook. Now he's back. Leapfrogged Drake May at the last week.

[Co-host]

After last week's performance, he's leapfrog Drake.

[Host]

May after today, 46 and 8, 4700 yards.

[Co-host]

Yeah, I'm just asking, I'm just asking. I'm just curious.

[Host]

How many touchdowns did Drake may throw for? 31, 32. Cause he's like 13, 14 picks in front. I mean 13, 14 touchdowns in front of him.

[Co-host]

Yeah, I mean, listen, you, you heard all the rumblings last week because Matt Stafford had a. He had a bad, bad week last week and obviously, oh, everybody, Drake made the mvp. Drake made the mvp. But I'm just curious because Drake may have one hell of a season tomorrow. Drake may had one hell of a season and he's worthy of the MVP competition as well. Hey, but listen what we saw Matt Stafford do. Super bowl winning quarterback. He should look like this.

[Host]

And Puka Nakua, he should, he should.

[Co-host]

He should look like this with Puka and Devonte Adams.

[Host]

Devonte ain't gonna tell him what he would have. Cause you know Devonte will score a machine.

[Co-host]

Oh yeah, he got 14 TD catches. Yeah, that's crazy. Hey, it's, it's amazing. Amazing. Look at, hey, look at it.

[Host]

Hey look.

[Co-host]

Hey, look at the quarterbacks. Devonte then had and went to Stafford and Aaron Rodgers.

[Host]

Yeah, but hey, two gun slingers. He, he remember he went. He had 15, 16 touchdowns with Derek Carr. Remember his first year he had yards and 15 touchdowns, if I'm not mistaken, 15 touchdowns with Derek Carr, his former college.

[Co-host]

Hey, Derek Carr is a gunslinger. A lot of people forget that.

[Host]

Puga Nakua led the league in reception though. So he finished his, he finished the season with 179. He also went over 1700 yards. But Jackson Smith and Jigma JSN led the league in receiving yardage with 1770. In 1793, if I'm not mistaken, I think Puka had what, 1709, 17 15. Puka had 17 15. JSN had 17 93, but Puka had 190. Puka had 190, 129 receptions. I think McBride had 126 and Chase had 125. So Chase did lead to AFC in receptions again, right?

[Co-host]

Hey man, you know what my numbers would have looked like with 125 receptions?

[Host]

No. Would you? Me? Well, with that many receptions, Ocho, you know you got to catch a lot of smoke screens. You ain't just getting no deep balls now.

[Co-host]

Hey, I forget deep ball. Just just running routes. Just, just, just running routes. Just let me run routes. I don't wanna, I don't want no smoke screens. I don't need no trick plays.

[Host]

You how many, how many smoke screens you think a pooka catch? Exactly how many? Chase, Chase ain't just catch a square house, man. You got 125 catches, Ocho. I can't just throw you square eyes post and digs. Hey, I gotta get you, I gotta get you the ball quick. I gotta let you do something with it.

[Co-host]

Yeah. Hey, they so creative. They are they, are they so creative with the way they get them the ball and then them too. They can do so much once they get that ball in their hands. Man, I can't do that. I can't do none of that. Break.

[Host]

What tackle man, Pooka be making catches. Puka be catching one hand man. You see them catches Puka be making? Yeah, I'm like damn.

[Co-host]

A 50, 50 ball with him turned 90, 10 ocho.

[Host]

But I think Matthew Stafford with today, I think Matthew Stafford's gonna win the mvp. He's probably going to be rookie of the year as well. Maybe jsn, Excuse me, Maybe JSN went offensive player of the year. But I think, I think Matthew Stafford sold up mvp. It was a no, it's been a no brainer. Miles Garrett is going to be a unanimous defensive player of the year. Rookie of the year. Is it going to be McMillan or is it going to be Taylor? Is it going to be Tyler Shook? Interesting.

[Co-host]

You know what the way Shook look the last what, six, seven weeks they probably lean to more. More him.

[Host]

They didn't give it to him. I thought he played extremely well. Chase had 1450 something yards. But you had Justin Herbert do what he did through for over 4000. Broke the passing yards record with yardage and touchdowns. So he got that. So they're probably lean towards a quarterback. But hey, I think McMillan had a hell of a season. Went over a thousand yards as a rookie. Ramondre Stevenson scored three touchdowns. Playoff bound Patriots beat the Dolphins 38 10. Stevenson rushed seven times for 131 yards. New England posted the first sweep of the Dolphins since 2016. The Patriots finished this 14. 3 season with the most victories since they won the Super bowl in 2016. The AFC east champions are the number two seed and host the seventh seed Chargers in the wild card game. Denver prevented New England from earning the top seed by beating the charges 19 to 3. If I'm not mistaken, I think the. The Patriots have the most 14 win seasons in NFL history. I think they have what, five or six. Ash. Patriots. Dolphins.

[Co-host]

Damn. My. My Dolphins. Man, we gonna be out. We gonna rebound next year though, huh?

[Host]

So how many seasons they got? 6? 6. 14 win seasons?

[Co-host]

Yeah, we gonna rebound next year. Don't worry about it.

[Host]

Guppies ain't doing nothing. Y' all feed a fish. All y' all gonna do is make the. All y' all gonna make to do his Patriots and the Bills get fat. Y' all feed the fish.

[Co-host]

Nah, we good.

[Host]

You're good.

[Co-host]

Listen, we. We. Hey, listen. We're bringing Troy. Troy Aikman in for a reason. Huh?

[Host]

He ain't playing quarterback now.

[Co-host]

He ain't playing quarterback. He gonna get this thing together, though. He gonna get it together. We're gonna be all right. Don't worry about it. Watch what I tell you. Tyreek coming back, too?

[Host]

He's not coming back.

[Co-host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're gonna work on a nice team. Friendly deal. We good.

[Host]

He ain't looking for no team for you.

[Co-host]

He good. He gonna be back.

[Host]

Drake made 14 of 18. 191 one touchdown. Joshua Jobs, 3 or 4, 23 yards. Ramandre Stevenson, 7 carries, a buck, 31, 2 touchdowns. Trayvon Henderson, 13 carries, 53 yards, 2 touchdowns. Drake May, 5 carries, 41 yards. They ran the ball 34 times, 243 yards, 4 touchdowns. Stefan Diggs had 3 for 43. Went over a thousand yards. Went over for a thousand yards receiving for the season. Ocho got him a nice chunk of change for breaking that mark on his incentive clause. Patriots look good. They look good. They look really good.

[Co-host]

Yes, they do.

[Host]

They.

[Co-host]

They look like this all season long. That's the funny thing about how the.

[Host]

Hell they lose to the Raiders. Hey.

[Co-host]

It's amazing. Hey, any. Hey. Huh? You know. You know the motto. Any given Sunday, no matter how good you are, it can. It can happen. A bad team could just have your number that day.

[Host]

You're right. Don't y'. All. You, you, you, you. You're not wrong when you're right. Well, the sea. Seattle Seahawks are the number one seed and they win the nfc. They give two birds with one stone. They go on the road and take down a very red hot San Francisco 49er team by the score of 13 to 3. Their defense was outstanding. We can't reiterate that enough. There's not enough adjective to describe what this defense did tonight to a very hot and a very good 49er office. They made Brock Purdy. Well, I mean he threw 427 yards. They had less than they had 180 yards of total offense in their own building. Christian McCaffrey had 23 rush yards and 34 receiving yards. Sam Darnold was 20 of 26, 198, zero touchdown, zero interceptions. They ran the ball extremely well. 39 rush attempts, 180 yards and a touchdown. Jackson, Smith and Jigba, six catches, 184 yards. I think he would. Well, he's over 1800, Ocho.

[Co-host]

He should, he should. He should be.

[Host]

Might be over 1900 by now.

[Co-host]

Yeah, he should be.

[Host]

And only three guys in the history of the NFL have ever had at least 1900 yards receiving. He's one of them. Cooper cup and obviously Calvin Johnson, who has the record. But Seattle was impressive tonight. Ocho, what did you like about what did you like most about what you.

[Co-host]

Saw from what I like most about what I saw from the Seahawks is for one, Sam Donald. He didn't do what has always harmed him, especially last year in the playoffs in important games and important situations. He turned the ball over. He'd been turnover prone towards the end of the season this year as well. But this game, unk, he was clean. But I want to give Mike McDonald, I don't know what kind of speech he had before the game for that defense to play the way they played tonight, but they did. They, they had every answer for everything. The 49ers wanted to run offensively. I've never seen. It's happened very few times where we've seen a 49ers offense get shut out like this. Christian McCaffrey who's able to do so much offensively for them because they can put him in so many positions that to make plays and find the mismatches for him, they played it extremely well all night long. Obviously Brock Purdy turned the ball over one time. Christian McCaffrey who has always had sure hands, he let one get away from him and turn the ball over.

[Host]

Hey, look like he got tipped. The guy tipped it, kind of threw it off balance, but it looked like C. Mac wanted to do something like he wanted to catch it and get.

[Co-host]

Reversed up out of there.

[Host]

Yeah, get up out of it.

[Co-host]

Yeah, but other than that, man, this was a beautiful game. Very low scoring. Obviously, if you're off to the type of guy like myself, you want to see more points scored and you want to see the Seahawks take advantage of some of those. Some of those outings that they had, including the one where they got interception, but they weren't able to do anything with it. The 49ers defense played well as well, but they couldn't get anything going offensively at all.

[Host]

Well, I thought the difference in the ball game, look, from a Seattle perspective, you mentioned Sam Darnold did not put the ball in harm's way. Yeah, he's thrown 26 touchdowns, but he has 20 turnovers. And if you go back and look at them, the games that he lost, turnovers was heavily involved. Now, they did win a game. I think they won a game against who that with the Rams, where they turned the ball over a bunch and they still was able to win the ball game. But if you look at his history, when he turns the ball over, there's a great chance that his team's going to lose the game. But this defense is playing so well. They played a lot of COVID two tonight because they believe they can stop. They believe that they can stop their running game with that front four. Say we got seven. We don't need to do anything special. And you know, they was, you know, and they got after with that front four. I thought d log them. I thought those guys played really, really well. The receipt, the. The DB stuck to the receiver, though. Show and Earnest Jones, the fourth and the rest of the crew, they did a great job of neutralizing the run, putting enough pressure on Brock Purdy where he couldn't get comfortable. And then the. The longest completion tonight, Ocho.

[Advertiser]

How many?

[Host]

George Kittle. The longest completion tonight was 20 yards. They only had 127 yards on 27.

[Co-host]

That was the kiddo, right? That was the one. The kiddo. Yeah.

[Host]

Yes.

[Advertiser]

Yep.

[Host]

Yes. Yes. Watching Seattle, you know, obviously, you know, watching them, I probably watched them probably about four or five times this year. Oh, their defense is better than advertised.

[Co-host]

Absolutely, Absolutely.

[Host]

And if you remember oo the last time the Ravens defense been good, he coordinated it. The head coach of the Seahawks coordinator. Remember they lost the championship game. I think they lost what, 14, 13, 1410, something like that. And then he ends up getting out of there and he gets the head coaching job at. At. At Seattle. That was the last time the Ravens defense looked competent.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host]

If they play Ocho, based on what I've seen On every team in the afc. Now, you know, hey, if any given Sunday, anything. Any given Sunday, any given Saturday, anything could happen. But if the Seahawks play like this, there ain't a team in NFC to beat them. Not the Eagles, not the rams, not the 49ers, not Carolina, Tampa. Now, if I'm saying friend, I'm not that. That disappointed whoever the 5C should be jumping over Joy, because you're going to get Tampa, you're going to get Carolina, and you avoid. You're going to avoid prop. You're going to avoid. I'm not so sure anybody's really afraid of the Eagles as much as they are. Maybe last year, but they haven't been clicking on anything. They hadn't looked really expressive this year. But if the Seahawks play like this, you're going to catch hell going to Seattle.

[Co-host]

Absolutely.

[Host]

Hey, with the 12th man, like I said, now I'm saying they play like this, that means Sam Donald doesn't turn the ball over. He turns the ball over. Offense or off. Because you can end up somebody getting a scooping score or pick six or you sit them up on a short field. Excuse me, Chad, but if you have to drive the ball on this.

[Co-host]

Nah, it ain't happening.

[Host]

With those two corners and those balls, it ain't happening. I don't see it, Ocho. I don't.

[Co-host]

Not happening at all. Witherspoon.

[Host]

Hey, I don't see it.

[Co-host]

We talk about. We talk about that front four, the first level. They got damn back end playing well, too.

[Host]

Oh, you got woolen. They got spoon.

[Co-host]

Man, they playing. They playing really well.

[Host]

Look, Josh Job. Look. They got guys that. Look, it's hard to explain, Ocho, but just looking at them, they're fundamental, sound, whatever. Wherever you catch the ball at, they normally get you down there. And they come in a hurry. They do a lot of game tackling. There ain't no. A lot of one on one. Hey, the D line. Hey, they see the ball thrown, they turning and going.

[Co-host]

Yep.

[Host]

This was impressive tonight to go on the road and be the team that's been as hot as the 49ers has been. Hold on, let me pull up some stats. Ultra right quick. Let me see what this thing. Cause they did a job. The 49ers had nine first downs, Ocho.

[Co-host]

That's it.

[Host]

They were two or nine on third down. There were two on four down. Yeah. Downs.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host]

They had 173 total yards. Time of possession, 37. Almost 38 minutes to 22 minutes.

[Co-host]

That's crazy. That's Crazy.

[Advertiser]

Had.

[Host]

And this game really shouldn't have been close.

[Co-host]

No.

[Host]

There was only three in the red zone. They missed the field goal and, and, and they had to settle for field goals. But I mean, they were down there. They should could have got points out of those. Give the 40. But I was surprised. What I was really surprised by. One of the things that I. That. And let me know what you think is that how well Seattle ran the ball against the 49ers. Oh, your third and 17. And you run a handoff and you pick it up.

[Co-host]

19. Yeah, yeah. Kenneth Walker. Because you know, you know what, it's 3rd, 3rd and 17. Most of the time you want to play it safe. I'm sure in that situation, they should have known it was going to be a run, it was going to be a draw, some type of handoff in general.

[Host]

I mean, yes, they backed up.

[Co-host]

Why are you backed up? Why are you playing the pass, especially in that situation? I don't understand. And Kenneth.

[Host]

And they get. But you got Seattle backed up. So, you know, and it's not like they totally trusted because like, oh, okay, hey, let's just run the ball. Hey, do something. Do something. You know, easy. Yes. Yes.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

So I mean, listen, I don't, I don't understand how that even worked.

[Host]

Brock Purdy did not have his finest hour tonight. He had been playing extremely well. And I'm not, you know, like I said, it's one game based on the, the body of work. I think he's shown that he's more than capable and more than confident. He went to an NFC championship game. He took a team to the Super Bowl. He kind of got it been beat up a little bit since then, but I, I don't, I don't really have any major concerns about him. It was just that this was a total. This was more so what Seattle did do. Not so much of what the 49ers didn't do. I think sometimes, Ocho, we get caught up like, oh, my goodness, I can't believe they did that. Where they weren't going seven on seven. They weren't going against themselves, they weren't going against air. They was going against a very competent defense. A team that can get after you with their front four. They're really solid. On the back is Ernest Jones Jr. Excuse me, Junior. The fourth is a tackling machine. They got. They fly around to the football. This is a very good team, a very well coached team that's put together. John Snyder probably doesn't get enough credit, but you look at what they have a lot of these guys are. They drafted these guys now. They did sign D Law. They did make the trade for big Leonard Williams. They got Ernest Jones basically for little or nothing. But he's been to make the trade for Shaheed. That really broke the game on. He was the guy that flipped the. Flipped the script when they was playing at home against the Rams because he's the one that got him started with that punt return. And then he catches a big jailbreak screen and get going out the house. Out of the house. But I was shocked. I was shocked how. How Seattle made the 49ers look. Because I think the 49ers, I've never seen. It was like Kyle was like just going up and down that call. She trying to find something to work actually.

[Co-host]

And it seemed like everything. He called McDonald and their defense, they had an answer for it. Everything.

[Host]

Answer for it. So what you thinking? Who you. Who do you. Who do you. I mean, look, the Rams, 49ers, Seahawks, we know they're in. It's going to be either Carolina or it's going to be Tampa. And then you look at the NFC east, it's the Eagles, and it's going to be Green Bay, Chicago. Yeah, I just. I. It's just hard for me to see a scenario with someone. Like I said, now turn the ball over in the playoffs, all bets are off. I don't give a damn who you are. But just looking at the teams and the way they played thus far, Seattle's defense is outstanding.

[Co-host]

Amazing.

[Host]

And you're gonna have to go there to beat them. You're gonna have to go there to beat them.

[Co-host]

It's gonna be a tough task. It's gonna be a tall attack, especially not only. Forget the defense, forget the offense. Having to deal with that crowd. You can't hear nothing in that stadium.

[Host]

Right. And they got Enjigba, who's a matchup nightmare. I don't care who your corners are. So don't get Mitchell and Deshaun. They're not seeing this dude one on one. And they don't like to play a whole lot of one. They. They believe they can stop your run with their front four. They like to play now. They will. They will play coverage. They will play cover one. They will play. They go, man, but jig was just bad. I drove a cat quick.

[Co-host]

Oh, he nice.

[Host]

He is. I mean, he is super duper quick. And you better not miss.

[Co-host]

It's a rap.

[Host]

You better get both hands on him. Cause if you don't It's a rap.

[Co-host]

And the funny thing about it is.

[Host]

He got your wallet and gone.

[Co-host]

He's not a speed burner. He's not, he's not a speed burner, but he just quicked and fast. And not only that, he's quick and then he knows he's a elite route runner. Elite route runner. And very, very good at being able to manipulate whatever's in front of him to make sure he creates separation.

[Host]

Yeah, he's. And he's, he's unbelievable at that. It's gonna be, it's gonna be interesting to see because if you think about it, the Eagles really haven't run the ball all year. Chicago has one of the best rushing attacks. We'll see what they can do with that. But the question is, we know Seattle has home. So that means Chicago will be the two seed, the Eagles will be the three seed. So that means. So right now, who's, who's who? Who's the three? What's five? Six? So Miners are five, Rams are six. So that means the Rams go. Go to Philly. That means the Niners get the winner of Tampa and Carolina. I mean, if, if Atlanta wins, Carolina's in the playoff. If New Orleans wins, Tampa's in the playoffs. So that means Green Bay is the seventh seat. So they go to the two seat, which would be the Bears. Okay, so now, I mean, the Bears are going to play because look, they about to hit. I think Caleb Williams, he throws for like 200 and something yards. He'll be the first 4,000 yard pass in Bears history. Now you talk about a team, they talk about a team that's Damn near over 100 years old and they've never had a 4000 yard pass.

[Co-host]

Crazy.

[Host]

They're the only team, I think, if I'm not mistaken, in NFL history that's never had a 4,000 yard passer.

[Co-host]

That's crazy.

[Host]

So you see what, you see how this thing is headed. Rams going to Philly, 49ers are going to be on the road to either Carolina or Tampa. And Green Bay is going to be on the road again against Green Bay. I mean, excuse me, gonna be on the road against Chicago and see, see Alabama home with the heels kicked up, saying, we get who we get, it don't matter.

[Co-host]

I don't.

[Host]

We get.

[Co-host]

You think, you think about teams that get the buy. We get NFL and you look at the teams in college football that got in the buy. Do you think that the same effect and having rushed as opposed to the teams that get a bye week in college or you don't think that really affects NFL?

[Host]

You know, it all depends. Turnovers, they're so weighted, so heavy come post season time. Ocho, that momentum swings. I'm talking about that momentum swings quick. And before you know it, where you normally down seven, you're probably down 14, 17. And especially if you're at home because now every third down, you don't get. Your crowd get antsy, they get real quiet, they start to boo. The opposing team start to feel bigger life. But we've seen, I mean, we've seen Kansas City go on the road. It all depends how well can your quarterback handle adversity? That's the key. That's the key. And for the most part, Hertz and Purdy are the only ones that's. That's been in this situation. Sam Darnold is probably, has never had to win a playoff game on the road. He's never done it. Remember how bad he, he went to Detroit last year and looked off bad.

[Co-host]

That was bad.

[Host]

This is, this will be Caleb Williams first time in the postseason. Jordan Love has had some success in the postseason. He did go to Dallas and drop 48 on them. So Matt Stafford is, you know, has one has gone on the road and, and, and, and, and beat Tampa with Tom Brady and went on to win a Super Bowl. So you look at the quarterbacks that's been in these situations before and you try to give you, you probably give them a slight nod, but Seattle's defense is a, is a neutralizer. It's, it is an equalizer.

[Co-host]

It's gonna make. It's gonna be the difference. It's gonna be the difference if Sam Donald plays the way he does in the offseason without turning the ball over, without putting the ball in harm's way with that defense that Seattle's playing right now. Now, I'm not saying they, they not the Legion of Boom. They not that. They not that. But they damn sure is good where it can be the reason they can hold that goddamn trophy up. Because I don't see, I don't see the offense in the AFC that's that high powered, that can create that many mismatches where they can have success going up and down the field on that defense. I don't.

[Host]

Yeah, I don't. I don't either. I don't either. I mean, all things being equal afc, I would probably give the nod to Josh Allen because he's been in the playoffs in these situations more times than not. He's a guy that, that legs and and the moment and he does a great job come playoff time of taking care of the football. Now his bugaboo was early in his career in the regular season turning it over and get that's what got them in harm's way. But he's done a fairly good job come postseason time of taking care of the football. He's played really well in some games that he happened to be opposite of Patrick Mahomes who's kind of one upped it. But I agree. I mean but you know that I think that's the thing that fans love most about the NFL. Ocho is one game.

[Advertiser]

That's it.

[Host]

I ain't got to beat you four times. I got to beat you one. I got to beat you one Saturday, one Sunday. It. That's it. I like that's it. That's all I got to do. Kenneth Walker 16 carries, 97 yards. Zach Charbonnet 17 carries, 74 yards. I thought Sam Darnold made some great plays with his legs. He bought some time find Cooper cup bought some time fall Jack jsn I thought he did a great job of buying time with his legs. Getting. Letting the guys work their way find a. Find a way to get open and then. And doing a great job. Look, he's not much of a scrambler. Nobody expect him to be. He doesn't have to be. But when you got a running game like that, they can run the football. But JSN and you still got a burner. Even though Shahid, he didn't do a whole lot the passing game tonight. He's more than. He's more than capable. Yeah. Of having a big.

[Co-host]

They just gotta put him in position to do it. That's all. That's all it comes down to. Hey, you know Shaman, how you say the running back name Charbonnet. He remind me of Robert Smith from the Vikings. A shirt. Shirt. A shirt tucked in looking exactly like Robert Smith. The way he run.

[Host]

But it's gonna be. It's gonna be a. Let the fun begin. But the Seattle Seahawks get the number one seed and they win the NFC west thanks to a 133 victory on the road against the San Francisco 49ers. They finished the regular season with a 14.3record. 49ers close out the year considering all the injuries that they've undergone, for them to be 12 and 5 and the number 5 seed in the playoffs, I think that's a pretty good job. I thought Kyle Shanahan did a great job of keeping this team together. I thought Mac Jones did a Great job of when he came in of playing at an extremely high level to keep these, keep this table because you know they've had injuries, they've had Williams be out, they had big Trent, he was out. Kittle missed time, Purdy missed time. They've had a lot of. They've had an influx. Obviously Bosa's done. Was done for the season early on. But for them to, to. To maintain extremely high level of play and still make the playoffs, given the injuries, I think that's a pretty good. I think that's a pretty good accomplishment. They don't feel that way right now considering they had home. They were on their own home turf and they got out. Played tonight in all phases, offense, defense and special teams. But 12 and five and, and to have a. And to get into the playoffs, I think that speaks volume to what type of team they're playing. But congratulations to the Seattle Seahawks. They win 133 on the road against the 49ers, finished the regular season 143 and they will be the number one seed in the NFC. Jackson, Smith and Jigba, he finishes the season. Oh, Joe.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host]

119 catches which ties in for the lead right now. Puka Nakua has 119 and McBride has 119. So he's not going to win that. But he finishes with 1793 yards.

[Co-host]

That's a good Steve.

[Host]

Not quite 18. Not quite. They've only been a handful of guys that's ever had 18 or 1900 yards. Julio did it. I think Reverend Ike Isaac Bruce did it. Obviously Jerry did it. Cooper cup had 19. A little like 1947. Calvin had, Megatron had 1964. A B, AB had. I think AB had 1800 too. There have only been a handful of guys. They're probably less than 10 guys that's had 18 or 1900 yards receiving in the history of the NFL. I think Bruce never had 18. What do you have? 17. Okay, 1781. Only two with 19 Jetta had. Jerry had 1848. Right. Okay. So yeah. Tyreek had 1799. Hey, but he also had another 1700 yard catch season. But. Jag clinched the AFC South south title with a 417 drubbing of the Titans. The Jags are 13 and 4 clinch their third division title in nine season. Trevor threw three touchdown passes breaking the club single season mark. Score with the Jack earned the home playoff game. Lawrence meanwhile closed the regular season with 38 total touchdowns, 29 passing, nine rushing. Blake Borders had a combined 38 in 2015. Lawrence also passed Blake Borders for the second most passing yards in Jags history with 17. 6:46. Now he trails Mark Brunel 25, 6:98. Yes. Ocho, are we giving the Jags enough credit?

[Co-host]

No, we. Not. We not. Not only that. We're not giving the Jags enough credit. We're not giving the job that Liam Coleman is. Liam Cohen has done with the Jazz.

[Host]

I agree.

[Co-host]

I don't, I, I, I don't know what, I don't. What, I don't know what Liam Cohen said. I'm not sure what he bought in to the culture out there in Duvall, in Jacksonville. I'm not sure what happened with Trevor Lawrence. What is it about this season that had Trevor Lawrence looking the way he's done looking the way he's looked all season long? And they're doing everything, they're doing all of this. They're playing well defensively, they're playing well offensively at all three phases in all three phases at all three levels. Right. And the Ferrari, your sec, your early first round pick, didn't even touch the field on the back half of the season.

[Host]

Oh, I don't think, I don't think when he comes back, I don't think they're gonna let him play both ways. I think he's gonna put him at.

[Co-host]

D. You don't think so? You think so?

[Host]

Parker. Parker. Washington played out of. Hey.

[Co-host]

Hey, was he not.

[Host]

Hey, was he came on the show.

[Co-host]

Let me get this right. Was he on the show? Hey, Chat. Hey, Chat. Listen, you can do your homework, right? Look at everybody we've had on the show that is actively playing in the NFL right now, and I guarantee you they're having a hell of a.

[Host]

Absolutely.

[Co-host]

I don't know what it is. Everybody that come on the show, they just, they just doing phenomenal.

[Host]

Yep.

[Co-host]

It ain't, it ain't a coincidence.

[Host]

It's not a coincidence. I mean, remember, Baker had Liam Cohen for two years. Baker had the best two years of his seat of his career. Trevor Lawrence got Liam Cohen for one year, the best season of his career. That's not an accident. That's not an accident.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host]

Look at Matthew Stafford when he got with Sean McVeigh. Look at Brock Purdy. He's with, he's with, with Kyle. They matter. Look at, look at Caleb Williams with Ben Johnson.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host]

Look at Jared Goff with Ben Johnson. That's not an accident. Coaching matters. Yes, Coaching matters.

[Co-host]

Can I ask a question, too? I love when people say this, right? When you know, coaching does matter. Right. But when you have coaches, if you don't have good players. You know, that disrupts everything. Because I don't care how well you can coach if the product on the goddamn field is just not good.

[Host]

Sometimes you can overcome if you such a great player. Tom Brady didn't matter to coach. Pay matter, don't matter to coach. So I'm gonna pay Patrick Mahomes. Sometimes, Ocho, you're so great, right? I could have coached lt. I could have coached Reggie. I could have called time. Sometimes you're so great, it doesn't matter, right? When you Kareem and you're magic and you come on now. Sometimes you're above coaching.

[Co-host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey. And it makes it easy. It makes it easy. Sometimes when you don't have players with structure and discipline and actually have to coach and coaching actually matters now. That's when it comes into play. I mean, you know what I'm talking about. And the people in the chat really understand what I'm saying. What coach could you put over there in Las Vegas with the Raiders right now, this year that would have had that team looking.

[Host]

That was born 11, not Joe Gibbs, not. Not Coach Walsh. Nobody.

[Co-host]

Yeah, that. I mean, right? That's what I mean.

[Host]

Nobody with the players that he got. Nobody, Nobody. Nobody's helping that. Nobody's helping that. Hey, y' all thought we forgot, but we gonna talk about Shador a little later. I know y' all mad.

[Co-host]

What happened?

[Host]

He let. Let his team down there for the game winning field goal.

[Co-host]

Who?

[Host]

They was playing your team.

[Co-host]

Okay, but we don't need to talk about it.

[Host]

Bubblegum, bubblegum, pop pop. Bubblegum, bubblegum, pop pop. Ocho, Ocho. Team a flop. Shannon's team on top.

[Co-host]

Wait, I thought your team was the Ranger.

[Host]

What happened? I thought.

[Co-host]

I'm just asking. You sure had on. Hey, it's so funny. Hey, boy. But hey, you had on Ravens gear not long ago. What happened?

[Host]

What I got on now? What I got on right now?

[Co-host]

Hey, you only put on who's winning. You front running.

[Host]

You can't put on your team. You gotta. What? You got to wear your. You got to wear a T shirt four times. Five times this year.

[Co-host]

Hey, the Raven. Hey, hold on. My team now that. Now that my two teams are in the playoffs. The Dolphins didn't make it, the Bengals didn't make it, but I still got the Bears and the Panthers in the playoffs.

[Host]

Huh? You got the Patriots. You got the Patriots, too.

[Co-host]

Okay, okay, the Patriots. Okay, the Patriots. Hey, hey, chat I call the Bears and the Panthers or even if the Panthers had to rely on another team for them to get in the playoffs. I still called it back in August. I told you. Come on, man. Here you go. Come on, man.

[Host]

I put on.

[Co-host]

Hey, we.

[Host]

A Ravens helmet put on for my city. I put on. I'm Jeezy. I put on.

[Co-host]

Nah, nah. You put on. You put on. Whoever's winning. That's what you want.

[Host]

I can't help it. I got two teams that win. A lot of it ain't my fault.

[Co-host]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Host]

You remember that song, It Ain't my fault.

[Co-host]

You got to make up your mind. Hey, Master P, it ain't my fault. That's mystical. Mystical. Did I do that right? Is that how the song go?

[Host]

Why you mad at me? Cause my team win?

[Co-host]

I'm not mad. I'm not mad. I'm just saying I don't like that you front run and you only pick the team that's winning.

[Host]

Cause I got two teams and they win.

[Co-host]

The Ravens didn't win tonight.

[Host]

We talked about that. We discussed your team never win.

[Co-host]

Why you. Why? Hold on. You. We discussed them, but why you not wearing their memorabilia? Why you not wearing no Ravens, though?

[Host]

It's been when I. When most. More times than not normally, what happens is that when the Broncos win, I wear Broncos gear out here. The other night, the Ravens won. When Huntley won against the Packers, I did wear a Bron. A Ravens beat it. I did.

[Zach Taylor]

Yes.

[Co-host]

See what I mean? See.

[Host]

He mad cause he don't get to wear no gear.

[Co-host]

I'm not mad. I'm not mad.

[Host]

Always lose.

[Co-host]

And I. Hey, listen. When they lose, I still wear their jersey. When the Bengals lose, I still wear their stuff. Because I'm. I'm a true supporter. I'm a true supporter.

[Host]

Win, lose or draw is mainly win. All I do is win, win, win, no matter what. Don't even ask what's in my cup. And every time you see me go up. And they stare down and they stand there. Up, down, up, down. Cause all I drink is Shay. Shay.

[Advertiser]

Hey.

[Co-host]

Hey, Unc, we can make a little album. No, we can make a little song. Hey, the Panthers. The Panthers. Hey, the Panthers. Panthers in the playoffs.

[Host]

Hello. Why you hopping up another team? You ain't even never been to Charlotte.

[Co-host]

Charlotte? What you talking about, man? I've been to Charlotte Motor Speedway. I'd have been to a Panthers game. I done played against the Panthers in Charlotte and gave him that work. What you talking about? I didn't been to Charlotte. I used. Matter of fact, I used to date a Girl in Charlotte. Yeah. Never forget 2003. I wonder how she doing.

[Host]

I don't know.

[Co-host]

Yeah, I wonder how she doing yeah, In Charlotte. I have been to Charlotte. I've been to Charlotte twice. I've been to Raleigh. I've been around Raleigh.

[Host]

Okay, close enough.

[Co-host]

That. That's how you say it.

[Host]

How you say it again.

[Co-host]

You for real? But it's spelled R, A, L, E.

[Host]

I G, H. Raleigh.

[Co-host]

That's Ryleeah.

[Host]

Close enough. Don't worry about it.

[Co-host]

Yeah, she was nice too, huh? She was nice too.

[Host]

Your team lost. Okay? Now let me celebrate.

[Co-host]

Go ahead. Go ahead, celebrate. Go ahead. I'm gonna let matter of fact, go ahead and celebrate because you gonna be feeling the same way I'm feeling in two more weeks anyway.

[Host]

I ain't tripping my Broncos. All we do is win, win, win, no matter what. So don't even ask what's in my cup. And every time you see me cups go up and they stay there.

[Co-host]

They stay there.

[Host]

All I do is win, win, win. That was another.

[Co-host]

Keep singing. It's one game.

[Host]

Oh, Joe. With his one sack of Joe Burrow in the fourth quarter, Miles Garrett reached 23 for the season, breaking the NFL single season sack record. This push Garrett previous record of 22 and a half set by Pro football hall of Famers, hall of famer Michael Strahan and matched by T.J. watt. They've been a couple of guys. Justin Houston had 22, Jared Allen had 22. There've been some 20 ones, but no one has ever reached the total of 23. And that's what Myles Garrett did. The salty Bengals weren't happy about the referees allowing the game stoppage for the Browns to celebrate the record, let's take a listen to what Zach Taylor had to say after the game.

[Zach Taylor]

The long conversation with the officials after.

[Host]

The Garrett sack, what was going on.

[Zach Taylor]

There's five minutes left in our season playing for our lives here and I was never told that we're going to stop the game. And in a critical moment like that, and the refs just said that they made a decision that they were going to stop the game and they said they tried to do it as quickly as possible. I didn't feel that we didn't sub. We're trying to be on the ball and go and play with tempo and the umpire just held the ball so that we couldn't do anything. And I'm yelling at Joe, get on the ball. We didn't sub.

[Co-host]

We're going.

[Zach Taylor]

And then we couldn't play. And so again Trying to get an answer was not easy. They just said that they made a decision as a. As a crew to stop the game. When that happened, I guess it didn't matter when it happened. It just. They were going to stop the game.

[Co-host]

And let it happen. And you weren't informed of that?

[Zach Taylor]

No, I was never informed of that. They didn't say one word. We meet with them in the 90 minute meeting before the game. They never said one word about that.

[Host]

Officials, they make no decision. The NFL made a decision.

[Co-host]

Yeah, I mean, doesn't. Zach didn't know that.

[Host]

What are you thinking? So he thought so. Hold on, Ocho. So let me get this right. So he thought they was gonna get this. Look, let me get this right now. So. So you followed Chad, Follow with me. So Zach thought if Miles Garrett break the sack record, they're gonna keep on going. Just keep going like nothing happened. Like it was a normal.

[Co-host]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Give the people context, huh? He brought the.

[Host]

He broke the NFL record since the sack became an official stat in 1982. Prior to 1982, the sack was not an official stat. There. There are stats where Deacon Jones had 24, 25, Corey Bacon had this or that. Whatever the case may be, in 1982, it became an official stat. With that being said, the most sacks ever occurred in an official season was 22 and a half. Michael Strahan in 2001 and TJ Watt. I think his was in 2021. That was. Gastono broke the record. I think Gastono did the record. What was it? 1984. I think 2222 was directed by Mark Gastonau in 1984. So did this man. Did he really, really think.

[Co-host]

Maybe. I don't know.

[Host]

He.

[Co-host]

Honestly with the way he. The way the interview and the seriousness in his tone and face, I really think he thought it was the refs not understanding. That's the NFL call. I don't give. I don't care how much time on the clock. I don't care about the situation that's going on at the time. We're going to celebrate Miles Garrett getting that sack no matter what.

[Host]

Yes.

[Co-host]

Hey, and matter of fact, I told you I'm gonna get my jersey. I told you. I. I told you. Hey, Chat.

[Host]

You lost chat. You thought you fighting for your life. What life? Y' all online support. We been pulled a plug on y'.

[Co-host]

All.

[Host]

We usually y' all donors.

[Co-host]

Wait, what you mean we want to.

[Host]

Y' all are donors right way.

[Co-host]

That's what he.

[Host]

You have or on your Devices. You have organ donor?

[Co-host]

No. No. We wanted to finish our season off the right way. Even if we gotta go. Can't. If. If we gotta go to Cancun. We want to go to Cancun on a hot note. With a W, with a win. That's all. That's all Ocho. But, hey, like, I.

[Host]

Your heart. We took that. We gave it to somebody that could use it. Your lung. We gave that to somebody that could use it. So. Okay. You a donor. I just want you to know I'm sorry. I appreciate you. I appreciate it. It's all good. Some other team got life. Thanks.

[Co-host]

It's all good.

[Host]

Now, I want you to take y' all sad ass home and stop complaining. Y' all lost to the Browns. The Browns.

[Co-host]

So you. I mean, you. I mean, we. We a bad team, too. So you. You act worse.

[Host]

So you want to talk. Hold on. You want to talk about the defense? How many points did the defense give up? Because you criticize the defense all the time. I want you to get your happy ass on here and tell the chat. How did the Browns get 14 points?

[Co-host]

Turnover.

[Host]

No, no, no. I want you to say turnovers. Who turned it over?

[Co-host]

The offense turned the ball. What you mean who? When you say who, I want to.

[Host]

Know, like, specifically who turned it over. What happened?

[Co-host]

It was an interception.

[Host]

Well, damn. The Chat might not know who play quarterback for the Brown. For the Bengals.

[Co-host]

They know who play quarterback for the Bengals. He we number name is.

[Host]

What's on the back of it?

[Co-host]

I think it's Joe.

[Host]

So.

[Co-host]

Hey, you sure. Hey, you sure is excited. I'm trying to figure out, what was this energy when we was talking about the Ravens, where was this energy?

[Host]

We was talking about the Raven.

[Co-host]

Y' all had a hold up. No, no, no. Y' all had a chance to go to the playoffs in blue.

[Host]

Y' all didn't.

[Co-host]

We wasn't going to the playoffs. We were just playing, trying to win a.

[Host]

Trying to my homeboy. Why are you talking about home? Me and my homeboy, we over here having a great conversation and you ruined it. You ended up the mood. You rude.

[Co-host]

I'm just saying we wasn't playing for nothing except the win. We wanted. We wanted to go home on a high note.

[Host]

We weren't able to do that.

[Co-host]

It's cool. It's cool. I know one thing. The sun will be shining in Cancun.

[Host]

Man. Tell them I want to go to Cancun. I ain't never been to Cancun.

[Co-host]

Hey, let me ask you a question. Matter of Fact, y' all play next week, right?

[Host]

No, y' all gotta buy.

[Co-host]

Okay, well, we'll see y' all in Cancun in two weeks. Don't worry about it.

[Host]

Hey, hey.

[Co-host]

We'll see y'. All.

[Host]

So you wishing ill on my team? No, no, no, no, I'm not.

[Co-host]

I'm not.

[Host]

I'm there telling you. I'm just telling. Why you get.

[Co-host]

Why you here? You so excited? You talking trash about my Bengals. You know, we weren't going to the playoffs.

[Host]

High five. Hey, Ocho, you saw the official. The official high five. High five. What you call Shelby? Harry gave a high five with Miles Gary got the sack.

[Co-host]

I mean, listen, ain't no thing. I got my jersey, though. You heard me?

[Host]

Hey, he did. Hey, I can't turn his hand. Can I turn his hand?

[Co-host]

Don't break. Don't break.

[Host]

Don't worry about it. We do the six, seven. We do the six, seven.

[Co-host]

Hey, what you know about six, seven, huh?

[Host]

I don't know. I know. I know. Y' all team ain't going nowhere and we use y' all for parts.

[Co-host]

That's fine. We'll be back next year.

[Host]

You said that last year.

[Co-host]

Don't worry about.

[Host]

Eventually, you gonna be right, Ocho. Oh, I was.

[Co-host]

I was. I'm always right. I'm always right. Hey, I didn't get it. I didn't get it.

[Host]

I gotta go to the bathroom.

[Co-host]

Go ahead. Hey, Chad, hold it down. Hey, Chad. I'm glad y' all get to be with me real quick. Obviously, Miles. Miles Garrett, now the NFL Sack leader with 23 sacks. I talked to Miles Gary after the. After the game, he gonna send me that jersey. He gonna send me that game, that game jersey. I'm happy, I'm elated, I'm excited, and I'm gonna hang it. I'm getting ready to do my game room. They get ready to do my game room in about two, three weeks and change everything up. So when I get all my awards from Ash and Unc, they're gonna be right here, Placid behind me, and I'm gonna put a Ocho jersey and a Miles Garrett jersey on the other side. And that is going to be one of my prized possessions that I've ever gotten from anyone. And I appreciate Miles for that. And I think that that's a dope thing. That's a dope thing. I'm sure the people in can probably want it, but it's not happening. It's not happening because he promised me the jersey first. And I, I, I hate I'd hate to have to beat Myles Garrett ass for lying to me and not giving me that jersey. And that's pretty much it. And that makes me happy. Will you go?

[Host]

Unknown.

[Co-host]

Ash will ungo. Oh, my bad. Chat. Talk to me, Cap. I'm not lying, man. Y' all always talk about I'm lying. Why would I lie? What. What do I get out of lying? Think about it. What do I get? What do I gain out of that? I got the jersey. He signed it for me. He's mailing it to me. They'll probably be here Tuesday. Yeah, I like it. What's the next game talk about? Broncos. Bronco got the bye week. He talk about my. He excited by the damn Bengals losing, but the Ravens done lost. And he was all happy and elated like y'. All. Like they ain't going home, too. But we all.

[Host]

We.

[Co-host]

We all in Cancun. What other jerseys I got? Oh, I got some of the best jersey, man. My jersey collection. Only I got a tour jersey and a Zach Wilson jersey. Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, and T. Higgins. That's it. Not just. Not just any jersey. I got, like, the 1980. Hold on.

[Host]

How y' all doing? Chat. Hey.

[Co-host]

Hey, Unc. Hey, I'm showing. Hey, I'm showing people my jerk.

[Host]

My.

[Co-host]

You see? You see this? Hey, uncle, remember this? Remember the leaping tire? Yeah.

[Host]

This.

[Co-host]

This. During this. During UNC time back back in the 80s. See, no, nobody got this. This is one on one. So I'm hanging this next to Miles. When Miles sent me to Jersey, I'm hanging.

[Host]

I heard a lot of people talking about, well, T.J. watt broke the record in this many games. And this. We're not going to do that. Because when Jerry said the NFL record for the most touchdowns in a single season, he did it in 12 games. Randy broke his record in 16 games. And y' all didn't say that when Eric Dickinson broke OJ's record? OJ rushed for 2014 games. Nobody ever said that. Now this man got the record. Y' all want to come up with all this stuff? He did it in 15. The NFL sack record is 23. Myles Garrett holds it. He did. Y' all talk about games, look at the amount of snaps that it took Miles Garrett to break that record, which is the equivalent of probably, like five games. Don't do that. Don't try to shortchange the man again. When Randy Moss broke Jerry Rice's record, Jerry Rice had 22 touchdowns in 12 games.

[Co-host]

But they threw the man the ball. They threw.

[Host]

They Threw the ball every play and nobody said anything. The NFL record now is 23. Miles Garrett holds it. So I don't want to hear nothing about. Know how many games. I don't want to hear about nothing. Miles Garrett holds the NFL sack record. Cause a lot of these records, I mean, when Jim Brown did what he's doing. They playing 12 games. Ain't nobody say nothing. OJ did what he did in 14 games. Rest his soul. Risk Jim Brown soul now, y', all because somebody broke it. Y' all. Team guy don't have the record no more. Y' all try to minimize the guy, but I ain't gonna let y' all do it because I'm old enough to remember.

[Co-host]

I don't think, man, who.

[Host]

Who would.

[Co-host]

Who would do that? Huh?

[Host]

Fans are doing it, talking about, he did it in 15 games.

[Co-host]

It doesn't matter how many games. You got it done. You got it done.

[Host]

That's.

[Co-host]

That's. Hey, that's an amazing feat.

[Host]

You know how hard any record.

[Co-host]

But you know how hard it is. I mean, listen, you look at the comparison between someone like a TJ Watt, a Miles Garrett, a Brian Burns in a season, you know, how many defensive ends is it. It is in the NFL that. That are nowhere close to that. That's. It's crazy. Maybe people don't understand. Somebody understand how hard it is to get a sack.

[Host]

And eventually somebody's going to break Payton's record. Peyton threw for 5,470 5,477. He could have had more because he came out at half.

[Co-host]

Hold on. That's the 55 touchdowns somebody's gonna throw.

[Host]

Yeah, it is what it is. He broke the record. Dan Marino had the record at 50. No. To take that back at 48. Tom had the record 50. Peyton broke that record with 55. Somebody gonna throw some 56. It is what it is, guys. They did the same thing with Roger Maris. Broke Brave Ruth record. They tried to put an asterisk by for the longest. No, we're not gonna do.

[Co-host]

Right.

[Host]

We not. We not. We not. Because every time y' all try to do it, I'm gonna remind you, somebody had the record in less games than when they broke the record. Right? And y' all didn't say. And think about it. Sacks only became an official stat. The interception. I mean, think about it. What was the record? Dignitrain lane, he got 14. I think they played like 12 games back then. Some records ain't gonna be broken. That 81 interceptions. Ain't nobody getting 81 interceptions. Ocho, in the career, you can forget that.

[Co-host]

Who had 80. Who had 81 interceptions?

[Host]

81, huh? Yes, 81.

[Co-host]

How many years he played cross play?

[Host]

Like 14, 15. He played 16. Cross play 16. Ain't nobody breaking it. They can play 20. 81. I think Rod. How many Rod got? Rod got like Rod got. Rod Wilson got 71.

[Co-host]

Yes. Hey, hey.

[Host]

Rob was there, corner moved to safety. Rod had great safety. Yeah, guys that if you could catch. A lot of guys can't catch. Ed. Ed Reed could like really, really catch. No, but Rod could really, really catch.

[Co-host]

Damn, that's crazy, man.

[Host]

Would you go back and look at some of these stats now? Eventually. Look, with all these games, somebody's probably going to pass catch 1500. I think Jerry got over 1500. And by the time they played 10, 12 years old, that's a equivalent. That's another season.

[Co-host]

Damn.

[Host]

It is what it is.

[Co-host]

That's unfair. That's unfair because now you know those whose records are getting broken, you can't play no more.

[Host]

I want to see the guy that break Jerry touchdown record that 197 receiving. I want to see that. I sure hope I'm alive to see that.

[Co-host]

That's going to be hard.

[Host]

Think about it, Ocho, but you got.

[Co-host]

A lot of touchdowns.

[Host]

The man got 2, 500 yards after the age of 40.

[Co-host]

Hey, at a dependent position.

[Host]

Yes, the man called. Man called 1200 yards at 40. Yeah, it went to the Pro Bowl. So, hey.

[Co-host]

Oh, you got, you got to be in good with the organization, bro. You got to be in good, bro.

[Host]

100.

[Co-host]

To put you in position, to allow you the opportunities to be able to have success in production at that age. You got to be good with that organization. And also you can't be a goddamn salary cap casualty. So that's the problem.

[Host]

What, 300 consecutive starts?

[Co-host]

Oh, he was healthy. He was always available.

[Host]

Do you know how many three. Do you know how many I mean? 300, Ocho.

[Co-host]

Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot.

[Host]

So you got to get off to a great start. You got to start off with 12. You got to get. You got to have a couple of seasons of double digit picks to even think about getting the 80 that folds and fives ain't gonna cut it. No, because you play, you play 15 years and you get four picks a season or five picks a season, that's still 75.

[Co-host]

You're gonna have. You're gonna have to do a lot of gambling too.

[Host]

And hey, but you got to start, you got to get that Number early. But you got to move to a safety position because you ain't going to be playing no corner position unless you Darryl Green. All the even great corners, they start to fall off and then they move to safety.

[Co-host]

They go to safety.

[Host]

You look at time, he moved to safety, Rod moved to safety. A Nias moved to safety. Only Daryl played his entire career at.

[Co-host]

The corner position at Kona. Yeah. Hey, man, hell, prime was that. Prime was at safety when we played the Ravens when he wore 37. And.

[Host]

I think the thing is oo is that I get, look, I get it. I remember. I remember on Monday night when the jets played the Raiders and Tim Brown caught his hunter touchdown. Man, they brought everybody on the field. They brought Tim mama, they brought his wife, they bought the kid. They stopped the game for like 20 minutes. Real? Yes. Go back and look it up. It was a Monday night. They brought everybody out on the field.

[Co-host]

They must have been playing home.

[Host]

He lucky.

[Co-host]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Host]

Can you imagine if they played at Cleveland? They'd have brought his mom, his dad, out the stands. Yes, they probably would have had hold up. Well, they couldn't have. Cause they couldn't have a tj. Cause TJ would play it if straight head was in studio. Cause they normally. A lot of times when somebody gonna break the record, the guys are retired. And so they have the guy to pass it, you know, because when I broke Oz, when I broke Ozzy's record, he's a general manager, he's there. He handed me the football.

[Co-host]

Right.

[Host]

But no, we're not gonna do that yet. Miles Garrett is now the NFL single season sack leader. Hey, at the pace he's going, he's gonna be the NFL sack leader when it's all said. Because he got. How many he got now, Ash? Almost 130. He got 125 sacks. Have you played 10 years? He's nine.

[Co-host]

You and he only. And he only 30 now.

[Host]

Yeah. Ocho D just finished his ninth year. So the record. So he needs 70. He need 76 sacks to be the all time leader. Bruce, he played like 19 years.

[Co-host]

Yeah. Oh, listen, he has a good chance to get it long as he stay healthy.

[Host]

Reggie had 198 in 15 years. Ain't getting that. But. But you got to realize Reggie played one year in the USFL. 1984, I think it was 84. He played in the USF, might have been 83. He played his first season in Memphis because he's a Tennessee and it was regional then. You know what I'm saying? Right? But Miles Garrett, congratulations. The sack single season sack leader. Stay healthy. Continue success bro. We root for you here at Nightcap.

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