BEST OF NFL Week 4 Part 2: Unc gives Ocho Hell for the Bengals L vs Broncos + Tyreek’s Knee Injury

Summary

Club Shay Shay – "Best of NFL Week 4 Part 2: Unc gives Ocho Hell for the Bengals L vs Broncos + Tyreek’s Knee Injury"

Date: October 1, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Co-host/Guest: Ocho (presumably Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson)

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Episode Overview

This lively installment of Club Shay Shay centers on passionate NFL reactions to several big Week 4 matchups, focusing especially on the Cincinnati Bengals’ lopsided loss to the Denver Broncos, quarterback woes due to Joe Burrow’s absence, and the grim impact of Tyreek Hill's potentially season-ending injury for the Miami Dolphins. Shannon and Ocho trade spirited barbs, dissect game stats, leadership responsibilities, and explore what goes wrong when franchises lose their star players. Loaded with quotable banter, the episode balances humor and football insight, offering a podcast highlight reel for both fans and casual listeners.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Atlanta Falcons Bounce Back After a Rough Loss

Timestamps: 02:45–05:40

• Bijan Robinson dazzles with a career-high 181 scrimmage yards.
  • “Bijan Robinson so smooth, man. Damn, he’s smooth.” (Host, 03:09)
  • “He nice. He’s so electric... One of those players that you hold your breath [when he gets the ball].” (Ocho, 03:21)
• Falcons defeat Commanders; key stats:
  • Michael Penix Jr.: 20/26, 313 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT
  • Offensive balance: run and pass both excelled; Drake London and Kyle Pitts contributed big stats.
• Noted differences in third-down conversion and time of possession swung the game.

2. Detroit Lions’ Dominant Win & St. Brown’s Emergence

Timestamps: 05:44–09:03

• Lions on a 3-game win streak; Browns struggle with Flacco at QB.
• Huge praise for Amon-Ra St. Brown as route runner and weapon.
  • “He is an elite, precise route runner. You can’t press him, can’t play off.” (Ocho, 06:56)
• Hutchinson’s sacks, Denzel Ward’s INT, Jamir Gibbs’s strong running highlighted.
• Conversation about how long Browns will stick with Flacco and Stefanski’s job security.

3. Bears Edge Out the Raiders, Colts Discussion

Timestamps: 11:02–11:50; 15:21–16:10

• Bears win a tight game thanks to defense and blocked field goal.
• Light-hearted food banter and age jokes about Pete Carroll lighten the mood.

4. Cleveland's Struggles And The Value Of Leadership

Timestamps: 09:11–13:00

• In-depth debate over publicly calling out team performance.
• Cam Ward’s brutally honest postgame presser is scrutinized.
  • "We ass, so we 0-4 at this point." (Cam Ward, 19:52)
• Shannon pushes back against raw honesty from QBs/captains.
  • “You can't say that publicly... He has a C on his chest.” (Host, 20:31)
• Explores difference between locker room truth and public statements as a leader.

5. Bengals Lose Badly to Broncos: Ocho Gets Roasted

Timestamps: 38:38–57:56

• Broncos crush Bengals, 28–3. Joe Burrow’s absence exposed the Bengals’ offensive shortcomings.
  • “If your team did not score a touchdown, I don't want to hear you say foot or ball for at least a week.” (Host, 40:02)
  • Ocho laments: "We got the best duo receivers and we can't get them the goddamn ball... it's bad." (Ocho, 41:05)
• Analysis: Bengals’ offensive line shredded; backup QB Browning falters.
  • "We need to bring somebody in that can run an offense... The offensive line has to understand that." (Ocho, 44:15)
• Host (Sharpe) refuses to give grace for injuries: “Grace is a young lady’s name. Grace is mentioned in the Bible. Nothing said that about Shannon.” (Host, 50:38)
• Repeated jabs at Bengals fans' excuses and the poor play from all units.

6. Leadership, Losing, and Building a Team

Timestamps: 20:44–33:37

• Discussion of what makes a true leader:
  • "To whom much is given, much responsibility comes along with that." (Host, 23:07)
  • “Name a great quarterback that's ever said that kind of thing in public.” (Host, 23:49)
• Ocho expresses yearning for more authenticity from athletes.
  • “I wish more players would tell the truth… something different beside the same.” (Ocho, 25:25)
• Lessons on patience: not all rookie QBs will instantly transform a bad team (Penix, Cam Ward, etc.).

7. Miami Dolphins Beat Jets, Lose Tyreek Hill

Timestamps: 60:10–70:57

• Dolphins win 27–21 versus Jets, but Tyreek Hill suffers what looks to be a serious, possibly season-ending knee injury.
  • “He landed and his leg bent awkwardly… he was carted off with an air cast and waved to the crowd.” (Host, 61:24)
  • Ocho speculates on the emotional toll: “That’s one of those goddamn, if it’s not one thing it’s another...” (Ocho, 62:08)
• Dolphins’ win overshadowed by turnovers and penalties from Jets.
• Ocho texts Tyreek, waits for an update; expresses hope for full recovery but acknowledges seriousness due to the air cast.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Bengals’ collapse:
  “If your team did not score a touchdown, I don't want to hear you say foot or ball for at least a week… as a matter of fact, you could say pigskin, but you are not allowed to say foot or ball.”
  — Host (Shannon Sharpe), 40:02

• Ocho defending the Bengals:
  “We got the best duo receivers and we can't get them the goddamn ball. And then you come here and you happy... I can’t say foot or ball and you’re giggling. You got your robe on.”
  — Ocho, 41:05

• Raw honesty from a rookie QB:
  “We ass, so we 0-4 at this point. We got nothing to lose. … We have to lock in, especially myself, on the offensive line, from the defensive line, from the special teams to all three phases.”
  — Cam Ward (clip played by Host), 19:52

• Sharpe on player leadership:
  “To whom much is given, much responsibility comes along with that.”
  — Host, 23:07

• On Tyreek Hill’s injury:
  “He landed and his leg bent awkwardly… he was carted off with an air cast and waved to the crowd. … I don’t really know what to make of his emotion.”
  — Host, 61:24
  “That’s one of those goddamn, if it’s not one thing it’s another… You have to put on that face, because, I mean, like, God damn.”
  — Ocho, 62:08

• Shannon needles Ocho after the Bengals’ flop:
  “You shouldn't say nothing. And you ain't gonna be nothing, so I don't wanna hear nothing. You understand? Don't make me raise up, Ocho.”
  — Host, 43:50

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Important Timestamps & Segments

• Falcons vs Commanders/Robinson's Big Day: 02:45–05:40
• Lions Roll/Browns QB Debate: 05:44–09:03
• On Leadership/Raw Honesty: 19:52–25:30
• Bengals’ Offensive Disaster vs Broncos: 38:38–57:56
• Tyreek Hill’s Injury & Dolphins Win: 60:10–70:57

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Tone and Atmosphere

• Humorous, competitive, and unfiltered
• Characterized by “Unc” (Sharpe) ribbing “Ocho” relentlessly over fan allegiance, making fun of excuses, and celebrating his own team’s slight upper hand, with both maintaining love for the game and respect for each other’s opinions.
• Ocho brings impassioned, sometimes exasperated analysis—especially as he defends the battered Bengals and grieves over both the BRONCOS loss and Tyreek’s injury.

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Summary Takeaways

• Bengals are in deep trouble without Joe Burrow, with neither offense nor coaching able to compensate; Broncos battered them in every phase.
• Leadership on losing teams is scrutinized; public honesty has limits for captains and QBs.
• Detroit’s star players keep shining. The Browns are stuck until bigger changes are made.
• Tyreek Hill’s injury sends shockwaves across the NFL and fantasy communities; Miami’s win is bittersweet.
• Sharpe and Ocho’s banter delivers a rich mix of intelligence, humor, and real “locker room” vibe—perfect for fans and observers wanting more than box scores.

This episode is a classic Club Shay Shay highlight reel—full of laughter, real talk, friendly trashing, and serious football analysis.

Transcript

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[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Nah. The Falcons beat the commanders 34, 27. The Falcons went from the worst loss in franchise history to to see it a decade of an impressive win over 2024 playoff team. Raheem Morris said wins was the team's apology to his fans. Bijan Robinson had A career high 181 scrimmage yards. Michael Pennis Jr. Bounced back in a big way. A career high. Ocho, he was 20 of 26, 313 yards, two touchdowns through one interception. But we'll forgive that considering that how well he played. Yeah, man, Bijan Robinson so smooth, man. Damn, he's smooth.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hey, hey, he nice. Hey. He's so. He's so electric. He's so excited. One of those. One of those players that you hold your breath when you get the ball because ain't no telling what's going to happen. You don't know which way he going. You don't know who who ankles.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

He finna break somebody, he gonna shake somebody ass up.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hey, he's really good. The first man is not bringing him down. The first man is not making that tackle.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Hey, Ojo, you see what they tried to do now, man? They trying to get B wags and coverage.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Oh, no, you can't do that. That's a mismatch.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah, it used to not be a mismatch. Yeah, that's how B wags he could. Thought he could come downhill and thump, but he could also cover. Michael Pennix Jr. Was 20 of 26, 3 13, 2 touchdowns. Bijan Robinson 17 for 75, 1 touchdown. Algier 16 for 51, 1 touchdown, 37 rushes, 128 yard. Drake London 8 catches, a buck 10, 1 touchdown. Bijan Robinson 4 for 106, no touchdowns. Kyle Pitt Senior, 5 for 70 and a touchdown. So they had it going. They ran the ball extremely well. They threw the ball incredibly well. Mariota did not play that bad. Ocho. But they fell behind. They ended up falling behind. Debo had six for 72 receiving and a touchdown. Luke McCaffrey had two for 21 on the touchdown. Zach Er had two. Mariota was 16 of 27, 156, two touchdowns. Let me see what the team stats. Damn. Because it don't look like they had a whole lot of plays. Okay, they had 51, Washington had 51. The Falcons had 64. You run about 60, about 60 to 65 plays total in an NFL game. But they had 435 total yards. There was one team, Washington. This is why Washington lost. They're 18 on third down. The other team was six or 12.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah, that'll get that'd do it every time.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Time of possession was almost 10 minutes in favor of the Falcons. They needed this game after that after they stuck it up last week.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah, they need it.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

And I love the way penc b bounce back OO I love but that.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

City would have been on fire. They lost two in a row like that.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Well, I guess that now people say well now I see why they fired I kill you, man. They gonna win this game where they fired Ike or not? Stop it. Oo I thought you said Cleveland. Go make this game close. 27 10, 34, 10. Golf threw two touchdown passes to Almond Rossane Brown. The Lions beat the the Lions beat the Browns 3410 for his third straight win. The Lions into Joe Flacco twice in the first half, scored 20 straight points for a 13 point lead at half. St. Brown has three touchdown catches in his last three games. He has six receiving touchdowns this season, the second most in the first four games of a season in franchise history, trailing only Megatron Calvin Johnson, who had eight in 2011. St. Brown is also the NFL's first player with six receiving touchdowns in his team's first four games since the in a season since Atlanta's Calvin Ridley had that same number in 2018. Man, that Joe will be getting open.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hey, every time he is a elite precise route runner. You can't press them. You can't play off everything about it.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

And they'd be stacking it. They put him in that bunch formation. Don't you what you gonna do?

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

It's a rap.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

And he'll block. And so he confusion because a lot of times he made it seem like he blocking. He doesn't leak that to the flat. Get his ass open.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

He nice. He nice. He is in the slot. He can listen to be small. He can actually go on the outside even though they don't ask him to do it. You can go on outside and just get it off the muscle one on one. You get up there and press if you want to. You could be standing at the back of that goddamn jersey.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

J J Mo Jerry Golf was 16, 27, 168, two touchdowns, one pick. That was a great pick by Denzel. Denzel Ward. Yeah, because he overlapped. He just kept sinking. They ran the far, tried to run the deep, the deep cross.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

He didn't have no threat in the.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Flat, so he kept sinking, kept going. A lot of times guys don't do what they're supposed to. But Jamir Gibbs had 15 carries for 91 yards on the touchdown.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

That Boy be running man.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Joe. Joe Flacco was 16, 34, 184. Two interceptions. Isaiah Bond, nobody really did anything. Isaiah Bond had 3 for 58. Judy was 3 for 48. Junkins 4 for 33. Junkin did run the ball really well today. He had 21 carries for 82 yards and a touchdown. But Detroit looked good. Detroit's flying around. They got after Flo, Aiden Hutchinson, two sacks. Are you sure he not gonna get what you call the money?

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

I think he is 40. Sure.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Michael Money.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Okay.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

He gonna get it. Ocho. All right. He gonna get it. How many sacks does Hutch got now, Ash, this season?

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Three.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Three. That's it. So that one against the one against Lamar and two today.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yep. I think. Am I. I might be right.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

How much long. How much longer did the Browns stay with Flacco? Wow.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

But that's a good one. It's Stefanski on the hot seat like the ball was. Yeah, because that, that, that, that comes into play. If his job is. Is secure. Shoot, they might let Flacco ride this thing out. Unless it just gets horrible.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

They're not winning. It's. It's. If I'm a defensive. It's tough because we got a good a defense good enough to win that can keep us in game. But our office keep putting us back out there and it wears us down. And then.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah, I would. I would just.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

He got four sacks on Joe. Oh, four.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Okay.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

But he probably got a bunch of. He got it for how many? Four. Well, we know he got one force fumble. That's what's back breaking. Because as a defense, we know we're good enough.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Right.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

But right now our offense can't help us. And he got two force fumbles on Joe. He gonna get it. You'll get it. What do we need? Golf has been nearly targeted, say Brown. He's completed 87% of his com. He's completed 87% of his passes when he targets St. Brown, 9.9 yards attempt and comparing his 69 completion rate with 6.8 yards per attempt when targeting all other guys. So helly damn near perfect no matter who he throwing to. But he really old. He really old point when he throw to, say, Brown. Dan Campbell described the connection between golf and St. Brown as an art form. Josh Blackwell blocks a field goal to preserve The Bears rally 25:24 over the Raiders. Chicago had four takeaways for the second game in a row.

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[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

What was that?

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Looks like something that should not be sold.

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Oh my.

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So that was my other big Colts takeaway. They sold that?

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yes.

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[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah, I might want to go back.

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To the drawing board on that.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah.

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He is spry.

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[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

How many things I've won because what.

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I came to realize is I valued winning so much that once it was.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Over, I got the blues and I.

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Allowing the Bears to survive a mid performance by Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson's offense. They gain 271 yards, just 69 on the ground. Ben Johnson said that's a huge character win for our team. I just love it for them. Let's see here up. I'm trying to find try to see what these stats look like.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Nights like this I wish that raindrops would fall.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I don't want to see I want to see oh here damn.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Night like this sign boy bangles putting BTA bangles.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Ain'T gonna put nothing. Oo stop saying that. I'm telling you what you telling me. Oo tell me what you telling me.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

The Bengals are going to beat the Broncos tomorrow. Tell Pat certain don't even show up cuz uno gonna have 150.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Nah, not against the Bron. I mean he might on Ross but he ain't gonna get that on on PS2.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

No, PS2 is following Chase Chase gonna have 150 now.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

You know, when he followed Chase last year, they targeted five. Don't do that.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

You'll see I have spoken.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

You trying to speak, it ain't no power in your tongue. The Bears spoiled a breakout performance by Aston Genti, who rushed for 138 yards on 21 carries and became the first rookie OO with three touchdowns in a game since Bo Jackson in 1987 against Seattle. Jenty rushed for a touchdown and caught two scoring passes.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Jinky was balling today. He was balling and I like. I like. You know what? I like that he did. He went back to his stance, too.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Well, he wanted. He wanted to stay in the stance. It was them that changed it.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah, but he. Listen, he was in it today. On that touchdown. He's standing straight up.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah. Ocho. Geno, you gotta be better, bro.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

What happened? I missed that part.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Three interceptions, that's what happened.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Oh.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

That'S. That's what happened. He got to be better. Ocho, this team is not good enough to overcome those kind of mistakes or play from behind. No. 14 to 21. 117, two touchdowns, three picks. They had four turnovers, three picks on the phone. Jenty fumble. They're not. They're not that good to overcome that. Congrats to the Patriots for beating the Panthers. Drake May had an unbelievable game. For a second May, Carolina went right down the field and scored. Don't you. I was like, okay, okay.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

They gonna. Oh, it's gonna be one. It's gonna be one of them games back to back.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah, I thought so. They scored and that was. That was about it for them. Drake May was 14 of 17, 203, two touchdowns. Stefan Diggs had his best game as a page. As a pat. Six for one on one.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Okay, Diggs. Get them boys. That business, boy.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Bryce Young was 18 of 31, 51 touchdown. He was relieved. Andy Dalton was 5 or 6 for 58 yards on the touchdown, but nothing to write home about. And the Bills they beat kept the Saints winless. The Texans rolled. Titans 26, 0, earned their first win of the season. It's the first shutout the Texans had since 2010 and the third ever. Stroud 20 of 28, 233, two touchdowns. The Texans improved to 1 and 3. Meanwhile, the Titans remain winless. Cam Ward had a hell of a post game presser. Ocho, take a listen to what Cam had to say. I mean, we keeping a buck right now.

[Matt Jones or Drew Franklin (Hosts of NFL Cover Zero)]

We ass, so we owing for it this one.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

We got nothing to lose. We dropped a quarter of our games, and we've yet to do anything. So we have to lock in, especially myself, on the offensive line, from the defensive line, from the special teams to all three faces. We have to play together. We have not played together this year yet. And that's just something that, you know, we want to preach about it every day. Every day we got to do better.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

And we're doing that.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

But it has to show up on Sundays. It hasn't showed up yet, but it got to show up next week.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

I like my quarterback like that.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Nah, Ocho, that's the conversation you have when we played. And you and I, we're around somebody with our friends. That's what we say. You can't say that publicly.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

No. Huh?

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Ocho, he's your quarterback. He has a seal on his check. You know he can't say that.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah, you're right. Okay. He can't say it.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

That's what you say when you around. You, you around your boys. And y' all so with. Man, we. We.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hey, hey.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

We some slow. We some slow. We stir fry.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Oh, you don't.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

You don't.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hey, can I ask you a question?

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yes.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

I know the program. I understand the, the power structure when you're the face of a franchise. But you don't like the authenticity.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

No. You don't like the rawness and the answer. Not from him. Ocho, everybody can't say everything. He is the quarterback. He has a captain. He has the C on his chest. No, he can't say that. No. He never could. Everything just because, look, I get it. Where he from. He from Miami, wherever he's from. And that's the way we talk. We keep it a stack, and we keep it a buck. No, no, no.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hey, chat. What y' all think y' all have Anything, Anything. How y' all feel about Cam being brutally honest about their performance the past four weeks? I, I, I'm curious what they'll say. I don't. I know exactly where you coming from.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah. I tell you what. Go on your job and say we terrible and see if you still have a job. That's all you got to do in that situation. You can't do it. You can't. I know, I know. It's. It's gray and, and it's gonna be a great meme, Right? It's gonna be a meme now. And everybody gonna be able to put that up there. Oh, we some. Whatever he said at the end. But everybody. If you place, like, people at home, they don't get the dynamic of it.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Right.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I get it. Y' all say whatever y' all do. Whatever. I was a no in that structure. You can't do it.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Right. I got you. I got you.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I love people. He not lying, though. He go on your job and say the exact same thing and see if you still have a job. See, y' all like when somebody else said it because you know it's something you would never do.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah. Well, you know, the funny thing is he's in a position where, where he can say it.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah, but see, just because you can do something, that doesn't make that you should do it.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

It's even more that he's in the position. That's when you have to be even more conscious of it because you're in the position to whom much is given. Much recon, much responsibility comes along with that.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yes, sir. Damn. I kind of listen to be a leader. Right.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

It's just not being about the best, is knowing what to say, when to say, how to say it.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah. I can't. Oh, I, I, I hate that you have to be like that as a quarterback. I, I hate that. I, I like that rawness and that authenticity. And I think to, to me, the message and saying it like that. The players in that locker room.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Name. Name a great quarterback that's ever said that.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

That's the whole point. I hate that quarterbacks are robotic and sa.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Name a great.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

That said what?

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Forget, forget football, basketball, baseball. Name a player a great one that said that.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

When Jordan cussed everybody out.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

When you like when Kobe. What we say behind closed doors.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Right.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

That can never get out.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

The way we talk in a meeting.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Oh, yeah.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

The way we say. Yeah, yeah. But we might say you suck and you suck. Well, you was a straight up. But you know what? Today. But as, but as a, as a leader and look, and I don't expect. Like I said, if you've never been in a position to lead, you could never possibly understand.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Exactly. Exactly.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

And I can tell like when I go on you, when I go on people's timeline and I see them, I can tell who's been in leadership position and who hasn't.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Who's had great responsibility and who has it.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yes, sir.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

That's all it is. You don't. Yes. But to say whatever, whatever comes up comes out. It doesn't work like that. It really doesn't. It really doesn't.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah. Remember, remember we have, Remember we had that conversation not too long ago about I wish and want more players to do what? Tell the what?

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Truth.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

And that's exactly what he gave us today. Something different beside the same.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Hey, all I know, guess what? Angel Reese did that. What? Did you get hurt? Remember Angel Reese said the same thing about her teammates. What he get Ocho? Oh, gotta suspend it.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

She got suspended.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Exactly.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah. She probably won't be with it with the sky this year, next year, huh?

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Can't do that. Yeah, people don't. Like I said, if. If you've never had. If you've never been in a response and a responsibility. If you've never been in a leadership position or if you've never been a part of a team. Oh, I say, this is what I would say. Everybody always says what they would do when never been in a position.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Right.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

To have that choice or have that chance. A lot of things that I say I've been in positions. So I'm telling you what I would and wouldn't do because I've been there.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

If you play the game, if you play a sport long enough, Ocho, you not fit to win all the time. You not going to have no 100 yards every game. You're not gonna have 10 catches. You not. And things are not gonna go your way. And there have been some time I wanted to blast a lot of people. But you know what? You just bite your lip, cuz. You know what? Ain't nothing good gonna come of it right now. O damn.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

What happened?

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I had 2010. He was 10 of 26 for 108 yards. He got sacked twice. So basically he had less than 100 yards. And then rushing. They had 18 carries for 82 yards. Man. How long did they actually have the ball? You only got 43 plates. Less than 22 minutes. There you go. One team possessed the ball. 38 minutes and 29, 21 seconds. The other team had it less than 21. I mean, less than 22. Third down, efficiency. One team was 2 of 11. One team was 6 of 15, but was 3 or 3 on fourth down.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Oh, man.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Ta da.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

And that was funny.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Look, Cam, I don't know what you thought, so let me ask you a question. You thought you was going to be the number one pick in the draft and go, go to the Eagles or go to. Or go to Kansas City. I mean, what do they understand how this work, Ocho? The best player in football goes to the worst team.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

They gonna be all right.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I'm confused. Sometimes I think they think like, oh, we go. No.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

You don't get. You don't turn it around. In one year, there's. There's struggle.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah, well. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I think also when you look at what a Jaden Daniels was able to do, you look at what a CJ Stroud was able to do, you might want to come in. Okay, I'm gonna. I'm the number one pick. I'm going to try to emulate and do the same thing that those dudes did for their franchises and turn them around like that.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

But look at the personnel.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah, that, too. That. That, too.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

You got to look at. You got to look at the personnel and. And how, like, hey, this new day, somebody said, this new generation, we tell it like it is. This new generation stay broke. That's what this new generation do. You can't talk. Look, I get. I won't. I want to know. I want you to go back, go to your job and say. And. And say on your job what he said, and let me know how that work out for you. It ain't about being stuck in your ways. There's a. There's a. Ocho knows Ocho. The thing I know about Ocho and being around Ocho. Ocho joke a lot, but Ocho knows how. How things work in a. In a locker room environment, in a professional environment.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

I know what lines not to cross. I know how far I can go.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Hey, now, Ocho with his. Ocho had a. They had a bad game. Ocho go home with his boys. Well, we were some. Boy, we were terrible out there today. Boy. Oh, Joe. Hey. I would tell her, hey, the fan booing. I would boo it, too.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Boo.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Hey, they're like, yeah, they booing Sharp. They're like, yeah, me too. But you have to understand, like, what. What we say. What. What I would say to, like in a meeting. Man, I couldn't say that publicly.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Nah, nuh.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

And the great son, all the great players understand. Look, he'll learn. He'll learn his lesson. He'll understand that being a quarterback, first of all. Second of all, he has the C on his chair. So he have a double. He have a double whammy ojo, Right? He's a quarterback and he a captain. A lot of times when emotion is high, logic is low, and that's what happens. You know, he's had success, and he comes into a situation, and, oh, you know how we think we're gonna turn it around? Hey, I'm. I. Hey, I'm a winner. I've been a winner my whole life.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

But, hey, sometimes even your winning can't overcome what they Already got up in there. It's gonna take some time for you to flip that around. Yeah. Now, also, what did Jane Daniels have? He had a change in leadership. He had a change in ownership.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

He got Daniel Snyder up in that.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

He.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Daniel Snyder still there. Jay, names ain't winning like that.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Right? Top to bottom.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

You. You. You can't overcome bad leadership.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Right?

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

So now they fix that problem. They got players around him. Cam, just give us some time, bro. I. I understand. I know you thought you'd probably have a couple of wins by now. You're owing 4. Are they the only 0 and 4. Are they the only team that they hadn't won a game yet? The Saints. I know you probably thought you'd want win a couple of games by now. Just give it some time, bro. You're gonna have a long. You gonna have a long career. It's gonna be a lot of ups and downs. You ain't. Hey, everybody can have no damn Tom Brady career. Every year we in the playoffs, every year we win the division, and every other year we're in the damn Super Bowl.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah. Boy, if it was only that easy.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

And that's the problem. People think winning in professional sports is easy. That ish. Is hard.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah. Is it the fact that those that keep doing it consistently year in and year out, that's how good they actually are, where they make it look easy?

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yes. That's what the greats do. People think, man, damn. Mahomes has never not played in an AFC championship game. That man has been in the league. This is what, his eighth year. He's been to five Super Bowls.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Ocho, now that's crazy.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

What?

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

That's crazy. And we talking this real life. This ain't no goddamn video game.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yes. Some people play 10, 15 years and don't even sniff a Super bowl whole.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Career without getting there.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

This man wake up out of bed, next, damn, we had the super bowl, honey. It just happens. Yeah, but look, I think Cam's gonna be a phenomenal player. They need a little bit more talent. Yeah, they need to protect him a little better, but he'll get it figured out. He's an extremely talented. Hopefully they don't beat him up too bad. The Titans have now lost 10 consecutive games dating back to Week 13 of the 2024 season. Ward start to his NFL career has been rocky. Through four games, he's completed 50, less than 55 of his passes for 506 yards, along with two touchdowns and two interceptions. His 23.4 QBR is among the worst in the league.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Damn.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I don't think it can get any worse, though, Ocho.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hey, you're gonna have days like this.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

You will have days like this.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah, and matter of fact, it's better to get it out now as opposed to it be happening on in the middle or the back of you back half of your career. Get it out now.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

What up?

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

I can't wait till tomorrow night, man. God leave.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Boy, your day coming.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

I can't wait to come on the show tomorrow night, chat and talk about how the Bengals whooped up on the Broncos.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Hey, you, you, Won't you be a. Hey. This is Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones or Drew Franklin (Hosts of NFL Cover Zero)]

And I'm Drew Franklin, and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week, that is exactly what you're gonna get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

What was that?

[Matt Jones or Drew Franklin (Hosts of NFL Cover Zero)]

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[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Oh, my.

[Matt Jones or Drew Franklin (Hosts of NFL Cover Zero)]

So that was my other big Colts takeaway.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Have you sold that?

[Matt Jones or Drew Franklin (Hosts of NFL Cover Zero)]

Yes. Might want to go back to the Colts stadium.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah, I might want to go back.

[Matt Jones or Drew Franklin (Hosts of NFL Cover Zero)]

To the drawing board on that.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones or Drew Franklin (Hosts of NFL Cover Zero)]

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[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

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[Matt Jones or Drew Franklin (Hosts of NFL Cover Zero)]

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[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

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[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

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[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

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[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

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[Matt Jones or Drew Franklin (Hosts of NFL Cover Zero)]

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[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I'm talking to Olympian World cup champion and podcast host Ashlyn Harris.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

My worth is not wrapped up in.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

How many things I've won, because what.

[Matt Jones or Drew Franklin (Hosts of NFL Cover Zero)]

I came to realize is I valued.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Winning so much that once it was over, I got the blues and I.

[Matt Jones or Drew Franklin (Hosts of NFL Cover Zero)]

Was like, this is it for me. It's the pursuit of greatness. It's the journey, it's the people, it's the failures. It's the heartache.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Listen to the Bright side on the.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

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[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

The game you just watched and I'm sure you guys thoroughly enjoyed it as much as I did. Bo Nicks looked like Peyton Manning. 29, 42, 326 yards, two touchdowns. Did throw a bad interception, but you know what? We can live with that. J.K. dobbins. The Broncos had not had a hundred yard rusher in the last two and a half years. Guess what they got tonight? Yeah. Whoa, whoa.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Please.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I'm asking you, mister, please. J.K. dobbins had 16 carries for 101 yards. Harvey had 14 carries for 58 yards. Marvin Mills had a 16 yard run that resulted in a touchdown. Let me give you Mr. Browning's numbers. The guy that's never lost on a Monday night chat, he was 14 of 25, 125 yards. They had 53 yards rushing. They did not have 200 yards, ladies and gentlemen. 200. T. Higgins was the leading receiver. He had three catches for a measly Peasley. 32 yards, 32 yards. Bronco Country. Stand up. 28. Three was the final score. They scored first and didn't snip the end zone again. Man, did y' all see Trey Hendricks? A little sucking there, boy. That my high hat. Ocho, you got that permission flip?

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah, I got it, I got it.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

If your team did not score a touchdown, I don't want to hear you say foot or ball for at least a week. You say oblong oblique. You say. As a matter of fact, you could say pigskin. But you are not allowed to say foot or ball. Okay, go ahead.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hey, listen for one, if you're a Broncos fan in the chat, and this goes for all the people in the chat, all y' all laughing and giggling and hahaha. And he, the fact that y' all are even happy about this win. Joe Burles, Bengals, you happy about that? Are you happy about Joe Burles, Bangles? And you win. We got a backup quarterback who, who couldn't do much tonight. He got an offensive line who got them holding the goddamn ass off. We got pre snap penalties up the ass, up the yin yang. We can't do nothing on offense. We got two of the best, we got the best duo receivers in the goddamn NFL and we can't get in the goddamn ball. And then you come here and you happy to. I can't say foot or ball. And you're giggling. You got your robe on.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I'm scared. I just wanted to know. Chad, I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm calling 91 1. This man is threatening me. He's hostile. He I, I chat. You see the hostility in his voice? I'm calling, I'm afraid. Hold on. I'm afraid.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

I'm just, Listen, I'm just asking, how are you even happy about this? Listen, I knew what the outcome would be. You knew what the outcome would be if anybody with common sense or any football knowledge knew what the outcome would be.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

But that ain't what you said.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Wait a minute. I know it's not what I said sometimes. You ever been in a relationship, Unc.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Hold on.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Listen to me, Chad. Y' all stay with me now. You ever been in a relationship and a woman tell you something that she really don't mean and you don't find out later until y' all break up? She didn't really mean it. I didn't really mean we was gonna win.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yes, she did.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hold on. Matter of fact, you know what? Hold on. I ain't got time for this shit. Hold on. I'll tell you one thing. I'm gonna tell. I tell you what. I tell you what. I'm gonna support my team through thick and thin. I'm like. I'm not like these.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I'm glad you wearing that jersey. Cause that's the only time they saw it tonight. It's right on you. Hey, listen, I'm glad they got an opportunity to see it right now.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

I'm trying to understand. Are you really happy with this victory? We have a Joe Burles. Bangles. We couldn't do nothing offensively.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Hey, and Opie deed him up. Did you see Riley Moss? Opie. Opie pooping on him. Riley Balls pooping on him.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah. All right.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Riley boss, number 21. The one that's opposite, he pooping on him. Hold on.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

I got a swear. I seen. I seen. I seen T. Higgins head tapping real quick. What you talking about? It was a holding call. They got called back.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Wow. I just said opd. I mean, all I know is, back in our time, we saw a guy that didn't have the same melanin as us trying to D up. It was curtains. Opie out there doing the do on him. Got it. Right on Mayberry.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

It's all good. It's all good. Listen, I'm glad you happy, because that's about the only win y' all probably gonna get. Listen, at least. At least my team. At least we got an excuse. Our quarterback is gone. Our quarterback is gone. It ain't mine.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Y' all hear this, man? What does that sound like to me?

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

We had. We had. We had so many pre snap penalties. We had so many penalties on defenses. Like. I mean, we couldn't do nothing. We couldn't do nothing.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Couldn't do nothing. As a matter of fact, you couldn't do nothing. You shouldn't say nothing. And you Ain't gonna be nothing, so I don't wanna hear nothing. You understand? Don't make me raise up Ocho.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

It's all good.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Gonna be trouble, trouble.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

It's all good. I tell you what. Listen, no disrespect to Browning, no disrespect to him, but we need to get a quarterback in now. Bring somebody in. Listen, we need to bring. We need to bring somebody in. That's.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Why are you being like this?

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

I'm not. I'm just saying somebody that can run an offense and give us the opportunities we got. Balls selling all out of bounds. We can't. Got to give our players a chance. If, you know, we down a quarterback, you have to make every goddamn play count. Every player has to count. The offensive line has to understand that. You got to give us a chance to win. You don't got the hole. You don't have to hold.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

You got the hole. If you can't block, slide your feet, use your hands.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Like, use your technique. I don't know what we're doing. We had a whole offensive series. Eliminated by three holding calls in a row.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Your technique is holding. What part about that didn't you get? Okay, to make it. In the words of Cam Ward, your team. You know what? Y' all some sauce, y' all some sloth. Y' all stir fry. Y' all cheeks, y' all buns, y' all booty, y' all sack. I mean, what. Hey, Chad, did I leave out anything? Is there any other derogatory term that I could use to describe them without saying actuality?

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Listen, if anything. If anything, if you're a real football fan, there's no way you're happy about this win. There's no way.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

You're.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

You're.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

You're.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

You're. You're. You're excited and you think this is good? No. No, not at all. No, it's like. It's like. It's like a lion being handicapped and having two legs and you being happy about defeating him. Nah, man.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Hey, he's still a lion. All I would tell you. Hey, if they didn't see it, I whipped the lion, man. The lion only have no. He have no fangs and no claws. He's still a lion. All I know is this here chat. Is there any other words I could use to describe them? In the words of Cam Ward, they are. They sauce, they stir fry, they cheeks, they buns, they booty, they sacks. What else? Chat. What did I miss? Chat. Tell me what I missed. What's another word y' all ain't what the elephant left on the showground. You know where the elephant left when the circus leave town. You know what's on the showground, y'. All ain't that.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

I. I know you're not happy about it.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

It's embarrassing. I know. I'm embarrassed for you. You gotta. Ocho. Do y' all know y' all gotten outscored 55 to 6 in the first half? You got beat. 4018. I told you we were going to put belt till. You know what, we gonna put books in you.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

We don't have our quarterback. We don't have a quarterback.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

You said that wasn't gonna be a problem. You said we got the best duo. I.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

We do have the best duo.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

And the fact couldn't tell the best duo play for the Broncos. Sutton and Mims.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

You know, it might look that way because y' all have somebody to give him the ball.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I don't know. I know what y' all got. Y' all gotta look that way.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

It might look that way. But it's cool. It's cool. I guarantee. I guarantee you some. I guarantee you some changes are made this week. I guarantee. I guarantee that. I bet you somebody coming there to help.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I don't want. I know the Sam Cook song. A change is gonna come, but it ain't coming soon enough for y'. All. It's over.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hey, listen, listen. Let me tell you how much I.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Don'T aim at football.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Let me tell you how much in order for us. Because let me tell you something. Heads are going to roll. People. People will lose their job in order for us to be able to at least compete. Compete. How many points did we score tonight?

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Not enough.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

That's unacceptable. That's unacceptable. Hold on. Listen to me. Stay with me, right? Real quick to say that because we lose one of the better quarterbacks in the league, that we can't even function. Cannot be real, not be good and efficient. Can't even function with the backup quarterback. That's bad. That's bad. That's bad. That's bad. You got to be able to function. And you got two of the best on the outside. Oh, man, please, man. Please. Put me out there. Put me out. Put me at quarterback.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

The receiver look like you out there tonight. They look like they were 47, had them locked up. Riley Moss had the right side locked down. And. And Sir Tan. I don't even know why y' all even bother going to war. Sir Tan, you already know. It's nothing.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Let me tell you something. Listen to we all. We all. We need. All we need is somebody with the confidence to be able to want to pull the trigger and just not care what we need to do. Now Burrow's not coming back to December if we don't turn over for y'. All.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Why would you bring it back in December when y' all will be lost 13 games?

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

How you know?

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

How you know y' all ain't winning no games?

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hey, man, relax.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Relax. First of all, your defense. Your defense was trash with Burrow. So what that got to do with anything?

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hey, let me. Let me tell you something. I, I, I believe in faith. I have faith. Not the size of a mustard seed. In. In the book of. In. In the. In. In the New Testament. In the New Testament, it say in Jobs, verse 8, chapter 8, verse 5. Ye who have little faith do not cometh and become anything.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Y' all should have no faith.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

No, we gonna be all right.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

No, you're not.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

I, I get it.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

No, you're not.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

A quarterback will be in that.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I tried to tell you this when we got the diagnosis with Joe Burrow. You said, Brian is going to be okay. I say, no, you're not, because he's not. Good. But you didn't want to listen to me. O' Shea don't know what he's talking about, and you got the chat decide with you. So now I get to sit on. I get to sit here for the entire night. My team.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

You feel good about that? But hold on. Your team lost last night, and y' all had every. Y' all had every starter. You had your quarterback. I didn't have my quarterback. At least I didn't have my quarterback, so I don't feel that bad about losing.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Talking about something that happened 24 hours ago. I said the same thing that happened to the Ravens will befall your team tonight. I tried to tell you that. Said OO. Don't rub it in. I don't want to hear. Oh, oh, do me a favor. I want to hear you say foot. I said oo. Don't do that now. Cause you know you gotta. Hey, don't worry about me. We got this now. Look at you. You talking about yesterday. I talk about today.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Your team was at full strength. My team is handicapped. We don't have a quarterback. So, listen, the fact that you're even happy about this win, that lets me know you was nervous in the first place. Because if it was me, I'd be like, you know what? Y' all ain't here, quarterback. I'm gonna give you some grace. I'm gonna give you.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Okay, no grace.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Y' all wouldn't have grace.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Grace is a young lady's name. Grace is mentioned in the Bible. Nothing said that about Shannon. I ain't in there. I will put it on you. So with that being said, Ocho. Oh, you like. How you like my chat? Y' all like my digs? Y' all like my robe? Look at my robe. I got a roll.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hey, Chad. Hey, Chad. How y' all like my. I like. Y' all like my old school jersey? My eight. Hey, the leaping tiger.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Old school.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Old school.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Hey, you know, I brought over.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hey, this the best receiver in the game right here. This is the best.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I couldn't tell. I couldn't tell.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Best receiver in the game.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Opie. Opie Taylor glued him down. Glue down.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Oh, Uno. Yeah, man. Listen, man, you know, when. If you. If the quarterback catching.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Ocho, he had five catching for 23 yards. That's not even five yards of catch. J.K. dobbins averaged five yards a rush. Hey, as a matter of fact, he averaged. He averaged 6 yards a carry. 6.4.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hey, there's no way you happy. There's no way you happy about this win. And anybody in. Anybody in the chat. If you're a Broncos fan, you happy about this win, too.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Happy, Elated, Ecstatic.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

That's a shame on y'. All.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yes. We can't cheer loud enough.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

I mean, why would you be happy about a team that's beat up with no quarterback?

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

That don't make no sense.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

That don't make no sense. That's like me. That's like me going. That's like me going to play against high school kids, and I bomb everybody. I mean, hello.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Maybe when you was in the league, you ain't bombing nobody. Sit down. And you should have. What you should have did. They should have just forfeited the game. Say they had. You know what? Say they had engine trouble to plane and not even come. Why y' all come this far west to put on that type of performance? You know they gonna flex y'.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

All.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Y' all were supposed to have a lot of. A lot of Monday night games. They go. They gonna flex y'.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

All.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Sunday night games. Y' all getting flexed now.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

They gonna keep them because people.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

No, they're not.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hey, I'm telling you right now, a new quarterback is going to be in there because we have to be. Listen, it's one thing to have Joe Burrow go down, okay?

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Boom.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

You have to have your backup quarterback for the offense not to be run, not to be able to be run in any type of efficient manner. They have holding call after holding call, not be able to put the ball, get the ball to two of the better receiving duos in the league. I mean, like, come on, man.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Oo. Come on. Your defense is bad. Y' all had holding calls. That offensive line hasn't been good since Joe Burrow's been there. A lot of the reason Joe Burrow is hurt is because of that offensive line. So I'm trying to figure out the quarterback that y' all can bring in that's going to be functional and can be operational behind one of the worst offensive lines in football. I don't care. The receivers you have, as a matter of fact, bring Jerry Rice back in his prime, bring Randy Moss in his prime with that offensive line and that quarterback, they're going to look like just like tonight.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

You know, that's the same offensive line that Joe Burrow had when Jamar Chase had the Triple Crown last year. Right?

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

And what. And tell me, the playoffs. How many playoff games did y' all win?

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

We're not talking about. We not talking about playoff games. We talking about. We talking about bringing the quarterback in that can be efficient so we can at least compete in these games.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

So you. So, in other words, you want to compete as long as you lose, you don't mind losing as long as you're.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Competing, we gotta compete. You call that.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Y' all competing tonight?

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hold on. You call that competing?

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yep. That's the best y' all can do.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Oh, my God.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hold on.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yes.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Wait. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

On.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Yeah. Come on. Yeah. They talk about my banquets, talk about my band. We gonna be all right.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Chad, y' all wanna. Y' all want to see something? You see a little couple of photos? Favorite up back in the day?

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah. Let's talk. Hey. Hey. Let's talk about. Hey. Let's talk about my Dolphins, though. Let's talk about my Dolphins.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Ocho, we talking about this game. We're gonna talk about the Dolphins in a minute.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Hold on, hold on. This man claiming a team. He ain't that. He don't want to claim the Patriots. He don't want to now. He want to move on.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hey, well, we know what happened. Let's talk about my Dolphins, though.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Ocho, let's finish. Let's wrap up this game.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hey, we ready. We wrapped it up already. Y' all won let's talk about them Dolphins.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Oh, oh, this. This. These the gloves. Hey, I don't know if you can see this, but these the gloves that I wore when I broke the tight end touchdown record. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it right here. Hey, Chad, you know, look at that.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Why don't look like Newmans. Them Newmans. Them Nikes. Oh, that's Reebok right now.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

They didn't have a. They didn't have a deal with the. With Nike at the time. So Nike wasn't the official glove. So they had NFL equipment on them. Okay, But I don't matter what it was. Yeah, I could have had some work. Look, construction gloves on. I can grab it.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Okay. Yeah.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

But the Broncos dominate the cat. The Cincinnati Bengals by the score of 28 to 3. The game really wasn't that close. Chat. I know. If you guys watch this game, I know you was very disappointed. And the performance the Bengals put on display. That's two weeks in a row they've been some butt cheeks. Booty. Any of the other things that you want to say. Weak sauce. You know what I'm saying? And the words of my good friend Cam Ward, they were. But the Broncos moved to 2 and 2, and the Bengals are now 2 and 2. About to be 2 and 3 when the Lions are put belt. Do you know what? Next week I'mma be.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

I'mma be at that game.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

It don't matter.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Let me tell you something. I'm g be at that game. I'm g get a team of pep talk. I'm gna be at that game, and I'm get a team a pep talk. I'm not.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Give him some Pepto Bismol.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Listen, I'm not. I'm not sure if Browning will be the quarterback next week. I'm just saying for us. For us to be able to compete. Just compete. Be able to run the offense, put together a string of drives. Just stuff like. Just something positive. There's nothing to build off. It is anything. There's nothing good to take away from this game.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Oh, so you like my robe? I can get you one.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Who?

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I can get you a robe.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

No, that's ugly. I don't like that.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Y' all orange. You do realize the Bengals are orange also, right?

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah. Yeah. But not that. Not that orange.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I tell you what. Y' all letters not either. Winning. Not winning.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hey, it's all good.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Let me ask you this. Yeah. Would you like Russell Wilson? Should they trade for Russell?

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah. Russell or James? Either one. Russell or Jameis. You know I, I, the way, the way James sling that thing and don't care he died. James, Winston, he down there somewhere.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Just let it go, Ocho. Hold on, let me see. Let me look at these stats. Oh, my gosh.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

What?

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Oh, my goodness.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

What happened?

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Horrible. Y' all was 2 of 11 on third down. Y' all ran 43 plays.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

See what I mean?

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

43. Y' all had less than 160 yards of total offense. Y' all had 10 total drives. 10.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Hey, now, you see what I mean? You practice, you get to work at 9 o' clock in the morning on Wednesday, you leave work after practice, go through meetings, watch film. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Saturday you got walkthrough. Saturday, you get on the plane, fly way to Mile High and you put up 160 y' all's offense. After working all week long, you mean.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Hold on, let me get this straight. I'll make sure you heard you straight. You say y' all practice.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Not. Yeah, Wednesday. Oh, we get, we get to the stadium, nine o' clock in the morning.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Y' all did that in practice. I think y' all could have did that without practicing.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

You see what I mean? That's what I'm. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. That's, that's why that one change needs to be made. One change, one chain can do wonders.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Move the Bengals out of Cincinnati.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Good talk about them Dolphins, though.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I feel we fit to get to the Dolphins. That's not your team, though.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

I mean, we, we've been on, we've been on one game for the past 30 minutes. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

You can't say foot or ball. And I told you, you cannot say game.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

All right, let's talk about the other pigskin game.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Okay. I told you, can't say game.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Oh.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

The Miami Dolphins win. But they lost in winning 27 to 21 over the New York Jets. They lost Tyreek Hill to what looks like a potential season ending injury. But they did win the game by the score of 27, 21. They move, they get off the snide. Now they're one and three.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Tour. 17 of 25, 177 yards, two touchdowns to Darren Waller.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Devon HN had 20 carries, 99 yards. He had a rush. Touchdown. Justin Fields played well, but he turned the ball over. 20 of 27, 226 yards, one touchdowns. They ran the ball all for almost 200 yards, but they, they were undone by three very costly fumbles. And that was the difference in the ball game. They're getting ready to go in for a touchdown, and the DB makes a great punch out, and they. Boom.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

That was Minka. Minka did that.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yes. Ocho.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

We'll talk about. We'll get back to this game. Tyreek.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

He landed in his leg, bent awkwardly after being tackled by Malachi Moore along the sideline. He was carted off with an air cast and waved to the crowd. I mean, I don't really know what to make of his emotion. Maybe he was not wanted. I've never seen anybody seem to be happy that they were injured. I don't want to read too much into it, but I think for me, Ocho, I don't think you've ever seen that type of reaction going off the field. But let's just send thought. Let's send. Hopefully everything, because it's being reported. Ocho, he went. He went to the hospital. Yeah. So I don't know anything. I haven't got any reports. I don't know if you know anything. You're down there, if you heard anything, but it doesn't. It didn't look good.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, listen, as far as his reaction goes, that's one. That's one of those goddamn. If it's not one thing or another. And of course, because the cameras, because everyone can see you, you have to put on that face, that smile, obviously, because, I mean, like, God damn. The first thing he says when he got on the car, you could see his expression, and he was like, God damn. And he just. He got. He got that smile on his face like, you know, I'm going through this. I'm going through that. You know, I'm trying to get my season turned around, and then here we go with this bull drive. Happened to me. I mean, it's unfortunate, and I. I wish my dog. I wish my dog well. I'm hoping it's not serious being that they had the cardium off and they planned to put an air cast. It. It got. It's. It's serious.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah, they don't. They don't. They don't air cast for no reason. Matter of fact, go ahead. Go ahead. Don't you finish up.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

I'm for the Texan.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

The jets had 23 first down. The Dolphins had 19 third down. Efficiency. Efficiency. The jets was 4 of 9. Dolphins was 4 of 12. The jets had 400 yards of offense. Dolphins had 300 yards of offense. The jets had 13 penalties for 101 yards, and they had three turnovers. That's how they lost the game.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah. What's. I think you know who else I think heard they need to.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Who that. Oh, the jets running back.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah. He ran the darkness. He ran right into the back of his own guy and then the guy came and.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah, I hate when players do that, huh? Because listen, I'm not even gonna mention what we talked about last night. When I talk about playing on grass. And as you see, there were some injuries today on grass. But that's neither here nor there. But God damn, man. All right. I text Tyreek. I'm waiting on the text back.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah, it's just the jets are going to have to be up. Just going to need to get out of their way chat. They keep beating themselves. They fumble the ball. They had a great situation and then they fumbled the ball and they gave. Who they play Pittsburgh. They had Pittsburgh on the ropes and they fumble the ball and. And. And Pittsburgh gets momentum. They had. They're going in for a touchdown to take the lead. They punch that out. Justin Fields fumble, they lose that. The other guy fumble and they lose that. You. Bad teams find ways to lose. Good teams find ways to win. This is right now they're gonna need. They need to get out of their own way. Justin Fields play. He threw the ball really well, had a heck of a run. How he got out of there and turn that into a 43 yard touchdown, I don't know. But only a handful of guys have ever been in the league that's been able to do that. And he just so happens to be one of them. They ran the ball 28 rushes, 197 yards. Justin Fields 20 of 27, 226 yards, but three turnovers and 10 plus penalties. That's how you lose the ball game. That's how they lost the game that you. You gotta. You gotta be better than that. Ojo. I mean I. I really don't know what to say. I feel bad for Ag. But guys gotta take. Gotta take care of the football. You gotta find a way. You got to win a game to get the. To get your confidence back. Because right now it's, it's. We're close and you know, I'm sure. Hey guys, we right there. We. We're close and they are. But the problem that you're having is that you're not good enough to overcome the mistakes that you're making. You're not good enough to overcome the penalties that you're creating. So when you turn the ball over and you have. And you have mistakes as far as Pre snap and post snap penalties, they're not good enough to overcome that. As a matter of fact, there isn't a team good enough to overcome the mistakes that the Jets. The jets had tonight and the. The penalties. There's no team constructed that's good enough to overcome that.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Yeah, you pay that. You pay. You pay double for them goddamn turnovers now. Hey, I got a question.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

And everybody in the chat that was laughing while y' all was. He, he and hahaha. Because my bank was lost. Minus Joe Burrow. And yes, we couldn't move the ball. We weren't efficient. Offensive line looked like they. They were inept. But who. Hey, all you Bronco fans in the chat, who y' all play next week? Who y' all play? Huh?

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

The Eagles. The who we talk about this week. We get 24 hours to celebrate who y' all play next week.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

We play the Lions. I'm gonna be at the game that.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Y' all at winning.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

I tell you what, y' all ain't winning either. I bet that. So we both gonna be on the show and neither one that's gonna be able to say foot or ball, you all.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

You ain't gonna bet nothing.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Who won't bet? You? Oh, I. What You. What you want to do? Throw it on the floor? I pick it up?

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Nope. Nope.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Bet some.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Man, that Bronco look good tonight. Oh, here you go.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

You think they look good because you're playing against a depleted Bengals team?

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I'm playing against a Bengals team.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

No, you're playing against a depleted, a injury stricken Bengals team. If this. How about you judge your Broncos off how they look against a team like the Eagles. That do that? Do that. That's. That's when you judge them. Judge them on next week game. Judge them off next week game. We'll see.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

What's the hostility for?

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Make sure you keep the same energy. Make sure she keep the same.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I'm your partner.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

I know.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I don't. I know what you're just saying. I mean, you're hostile.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

I'm not hostile. I'm just saying. My voice a little raspy. My voice a little raspy, but I'm just saying y' all are all excited. Oh, we beat the Bengals 28 to 3. And I mean, that ain't nothing to be proud of.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

That ain't a lot to be proud of. Not about Ocho. Y' all only scored 13 points in the last two games. Y' all scored 13 points more than me, Ash and Jordan.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Okay, okay, man. All right.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I sure hope it's gonna get better for y'. All. Tyreek has 11, 363 receiving yards since entering the NFL in 2017. That's the most in the league over that time frame. He also has 819, 819 catches, fourth most in the league over since 2017, behind Devonte Adams, 886, Travis Kelsey, 880 and Stefan Diggs, 824. His 83 touchdown catches are the third most in the NFL over that time frame. Devonte has 102. Mike Evans has 91. Here's the thing, Ocho. Yeah. You can't trade him now. You stuck with him. He owned. He on your team for the rest of the season, and he's not gonna. There's a great chance. We don't know, but I'm just saying, if you were thinking about trading, you can't. Second of all, he's on your team, and he's probably not going to be able to be any benefit to you because that looked really, really serious, and it doesn't look like he's going to play anymore this year. So now, all that being said, there's a greater chance this offseason. I mean, everybody's going to have to check out Ocho. You know how that is. Because now the value is not what it once was. He's over 30, and he's coming off a significant injury. There is value there, but not the value that he had before he suffered this injury.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

Right.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

So now what are the Dolphins going to do?

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

I'm not. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. To me, it's all based on rehab, treatment and seeing how you feel when you get back. We've seen a few players come back from injuries. We don't know what the injury is yet, you know, to date, but knowing Tyreek, knowing the way he works behind closed doors that most people don't get a chance to see that he works his ass off. So he's gonna work his tail off. He'll be able to get back out there and. And get back to. To full. Full tilt.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

As far as speed goes, he ain't losing no speed.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

Yeah, he got that. He got. He got that to play with.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

That ain't going nowhere. So I'm just hoping, you know, you get your range of motion back, get your flexibility back, you know, get those tendons and whatever. I still don't know what happened, but just get all that stuff around the area that is. Or get everything around that area strengthened and come back stronger next year.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

I'm not.

[Ocho (Likely a co-host or guest commentator, possibly a former player or analyst)]

I'm. I'm not sure. The cap hit is huge. I'm not sure it would be with the Dolphins, but wherever it is, you're gonna handle your business.

[Host 1 (Possibly a sports analyst or commentator)]

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