Club Shay Shay — BEST OF NFL Week 5, Part 2: Patriots SHOCK Bills + Ravens Season COOKED?!

Date: October 8, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe (not present — guest hosts Matt Jones & Ocho in discussion)
Podcast: Club Shay Shay

Episode Overview

This episode of Club Shay Shay breaks down the major storylines and surprises from NFL Week 5, focusing on the New England Patriots' upset over the Buffalo Bills, the Dallas Cowboys' rout of the Jets, and the Houston Texans' stunning blowout of the Baltimore Ravens. Through lively, candid banter, Matt Jones and Ocho analyze standout performances, coaching decisions, and what’s ahead for struggling and surging teams.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Patriots Pull Off a Shocking Win in Buffalo

[03:01 - 12:49]

• New England Patriots defeat Buffalo Bills 23–20
• Drake May (NE QB): 22/30, 273 yards, no TD, no INT; praised for poise and clean play in hostile environment.
• Stefon Diggs (NE WR): 9 catches, 146 yards, dominant as May’s go-to target.
• Matt Jones: “The Patriots played unbelievable and they won and they deserve to win this game.” [03:26]
• Josh Allen (BUF QB): 22/31, 253 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT; Bills forced into 3 turnovers.
• Ocho emphasizes the critical importance of quarterback play for NFL success, lauds May’s progression into his second year.
• Patriots’ defense credited for limiting Josh Allen’s running impact and holding the Bills to critical field goals.
• Matt and Ocho discuss the Patriots’ ability to capitalize on turnovers, impressive discipline under Vrabel, and the revitalized potential around Drake May and Josh McDaniels’ offensive coordination.
• Quote:
  Ocho: “Drake May… had a very clean game. Buffalo obviously had some unfortunate turnovers. The Patriots had turnovers as well, but outside of that, the Patriots played a really, really good game, especially on defense.” [05:03]
• The hosts muse on how the Patriots—after a rocky start—now look formidable if their current formula holds.

2. Cowboys ‘Mollywop’ the Winless Jets

[17:17 - 29:00]

• Dallas Cowboys thrash New York Jets 37–22
• Dak Prescott: 18/29, 237 yards, 4 TD, 0 INT — “That goddamn Dak look good. He was dealing, that goddamn Dak look good.” [18:58, Ocho]
• Javonte Williams: 16 carries, 135 yards — “He looks like the Carolina Javonte Williams.” [18:32, Matt Jones]
• Dallas succeeded despite missing four O-line starters.
• Hosts highlight the glaring decline of Jets CB Sauce Gardner (“He ain’t the same since his rookie year…” [19:56, Matt Jones]), debate his regression versus expectations and the difficulty for defensive backs as teams adjust and officiating tightens.
• Jets drop to 0–5. Discussion on the impossibility of a comeback from such a hole, poor O-line play, and offensive struggles even with talented skill-position players.
• Ocho critiques offensive gameplanning, asks why quick game isn’t being used more with a failing OL (“Put your quarterback under [center] and just run quick game.” [26:48])—Matt counters that game script (early huge deficit) took away the run game.
• Jets upcoming schedule is daunting; hosts have little optimism for a quick turnaround.

3. Texans Humiliate the Ravens — Baltimore Season Finished?

[35:24 - 47:41]

• Houston Texans demolish Baltimore Ravens 44–10
• Hosts argue about attributing the loss to Ravens’ injuries—Ocho insists “Don’t do that. Just say the Houston Texans dismantled the Ravens.” [35:31]
• C.J. Stroud: 23/27, 244 yards, 4 TD — “C.J. Stroud... this is the best C.J. Stroud has looked since his rookie season.” [36:59, Matt Jones]
• Houston ran for 167 yards, spreading the ball to multiple receivers; “total team dominance.”
• Baltimore down four defensive starters and without Lamar Jackson—Matt: “Ain’t no easy way to say this, but it’s not going to get better for the Ravens.” [40:16]
• Hosts argue whether coaching changes (defensive coordinator) actually matter when backups simply can't execute. Ocho: “When you have injuries and things aren’t going well, the first thing they say is, ‘We need to change a position coach or defensive coordinator.’ When that’s not the problem… It’s up to those that are on the field to execute whatever is called.” [46:58]
• Both predict continued struggles for Baltimore, pointing to critical injuries and lack of identity/confidence.
• Ocho also reminds that he predicted a breakout for the Carolina Panthers and Bears, highlighting how each year an unexpected team rises.

4. Jaguars Edge Out the Chiefs in a Thriller

[47:53 - 62:21]

• Jaguars rally from 14 down, win 31–28
• Trevor Lawrence: 18/25, 221 yards, 1 TD; key plays with his legs, handled KC blitzes calmly — “Tonight he used his legs to win.” [48:53, Ocho]
• Critical turnovers by Jags overcome with clutch defensive plays (99-yard INT return).
• Praise for Jags’ offensive line and RB Travis Etienne’s blitz pickup — “Plays like that will keep a running back on the field all three downs.” [49:33, Ocho]
• On the Chiefs: Mahomes solid (29/41, 318, 1 TD, 1 INT) but lack of receiver chemistry critical late —especially Hollywood Brown missing a key chance. Matt: “If Hollywood Brown had a rapport with his quarterback, they win this game...” [57:21]
• Discussion of endgame clock management, situational awareness, special teams/return decisions, and how it can impact outcomes even for elite teams.

5. NFL Scheduling, Overseas Plans & Business Motives

[63:23 - 66:42]

• Critique of doubleheaders on Monday night — “On a singular night, Ocho, we need one game.” [64:20, Matt Jones]
• Discussion about expanding the schedule (inevitable 18th game, more playoff slots) and the NFL’s push for games overseas for branding and profits.
• Matt: “I get Jacksonville, I get Cleveland, but good luck getting the Cowboys to give up a home game.” [65:17]
• Ocho: “The game of football… is continuing to grow globally… but they will never, ever be what soccer is.” [65:50]
• Reflection on the international ceiling for football versus soccer or basketball.

Memorable Quotes & Moments

“Drake May... had a very clean game. Buffalo obviously had some unfortunate turnovers. The Patriots had turnovers as well, but outside of that, the Patriots played a really, really good game, especially on defense.”
— Ocho [05:03]

“He ain’t the same since his rookie year... Ain’t no way I’m putting him up there with Stingley. I’m putting him up there with certain. Nah... Not even close.”
— Matt Jones on Sauce Gardner [19:56]

“When you have injuries and things aren’t going well, the first thing they say is, 'We need to change a position coach or we need to change a defensive coordinator.' When that’s not the problem... it’s up to those that are on the field to execute whatever is called.”
— Ocho [46:58]

“If Hollywood Brown had a rapport with his quarterback, they win this game... That’s Tyreek Hill, oh we having a whole different conversation. Because they have a report. They have an understanding with each other.”
— Matt Jones [57:21]

“On a singular night, Ocho, we need one game. But you guess what? Pretty soon they’re going to have two games on Thursday. Watch. Yeah, watch.”
— Matt Jones [64:20]

Timestamps of Notable Segments

| Time | Topic | | ------------ | -------------------------------------------------------------- | | 03:01–12:49 | Patriots shock Bills — breakdown of the upset | | 17:17–29:00 | Cowboys dominate Jets — Dak, Javonte Williams, Jets’ struggles | | 35:24–47:41 | Texans crush Ravens — C.J. Stroud, Baltimore in crisis | | 47:53–62:21 | Jaguars-Chiefs thriller — Lawrence, Mahomes, late-game miscues | | 63:23–66:42 | NFL scheduling gripes, expansion/business, global ambitions |

Tone & Style Notes

• The tone is lively, conversational, and direct—mix of friendly ribbing and deep football insights.
• Hosts hold players and coaches accountable, avoid sugarcoating shortcomings.
• Plenty of football jargon and insider references—ideal for both serious fans and casual listeners.

Summary Takeaway

This episode delivers sharp, unfiltered takes on the central NFL narratives emerging from Week 5. It’s a must-listen for fans looking for candid opinion, tactical depth, and authentic football culture—whether you missed the games or want more than headline recaps.