BEST OF NFL Week 6 Part 1: Chiefs TAKE DOWN Lions, Giants UPSET Eagles, Baker Mayfield MVP?

Summary

Club Shay Shay – BEST OF NFL Week 6 Part 1

Host: Shannon Sharpe ("Uncle Ocho")
Date: October 15, 2025
Episode Theme: NFL Week 6 Recap – Chiefs defeat Lions, Giants upset Eagles, Baker Mayfield's MVP run & more

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Episode Overview

In this Week 6 recap, Shannon Sharpe ("Uncle Ocho") and his co-host break down the most dramatic moments and key storylines from the NFL's sixth week. Topics include the Chiefs returning to dominance against the Lions, the Giants stunning the reigning Super Bowl champion Eagles, and an animated discussion about Baker Mayfield's legitimate MVP candidacy. The duo blend sharp analysis with playful banter, signature catchphrases, and personal football wisdom, offering both hardcore breakdowns and relatable locker room anecdotes.

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Key Discussions & Insights

1. Chiefs Take Down the Lions (00:00–11:14)

Chiefs Offense Returns to Form

• Mahomes posted 257 passing yards, 3 TDs, and a rushing TD; Hollywood Brown enjoyed his best game as a Chief, and the offense balanced 112 rushing yards on 29 carries.
• Uncle Ocho: "This is the offense that we expected to see... When Patrick Mahomes basically started in what, 2018, 2019, and ran that thing all the way until like '23." (00:24)
• The offense utilized multiple receivers, making it unpredictable for defenses.

Chiefs’ Clean Execution & Play Calling

• Chiefs played a turnover-free, penalty-free game.
• Andy Reid praised for play design and Mahomes for his quick decision-making and willingness to run when needed.
• Ocho: "Mahomes ain't sitting back there patting the ball. He'll take off running now. But sometimes you gotta know when the journey over. Don’t keep dropping that shoulder, people go drop anchor on you now." (04:22)

Turning Points & Detroit’s Performance

• Discussion of a pivotal failed fourth down by Lions WR Amon-Ra St. Brown, which deflated their momentum.
• Detroit's offense was solid but made just a few crucial mistakes.
• Uncle Ocho: "Detroit didn’t play bad. When you’re playing KC and they’re on, doesn’t matter where you are. It’s still Patrick Mahomes." (05:40)

Debunking “Ref Favoritism” Myths

• Sharpe pushes back on claims the Chiefs only win due to officiating.
• Quote: "Ain’t no way you winning just because of the officials... They got good players, a good system, a good scheme, great coaching." (07:01)

The “Who Can Beat KC?” Question

• Only a handful of NFL teams can keep up with KC's firepower; field goals won't cut it.
• Praise for Chiefs' defensive effort as well.

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2. Baker Mayfield: The Surprising MVP Frontrunner (11:24–19:24)

Baker’s Heroics & Team Adversity

• Bucs defeat 49ers, 30–19; Baker throws for 256 yards, 2 TDs, and improvises on a highlight scramble with fans chanting MVP.
• Bucs missing top receivers (no Evans, Godwin, Bucky Irving out, Ibuka injured), yet Mayfield keeps offense humming.
• Co-host: "MVP is his to lose. The way Baker Mayfield is playing right now, he’s playing the best football at the quarterback position..." (12:50)

Baker’s Personality & Fit in Tampa

• Authenticity and support from the organization is credited for Mayfield flourishing.
• Uncle Ocho: "It’s better to let guys be themselves... This is who Baker is. Tampa say, you lead..." (13:23)
• Callback to Baker planting the OU flag, celebrated as emblematic of his unfiltered energy and drive.

Situational Success & Vindication

• Mayfield’s career arc: bounced from team to team, finally finding a home and belief in Tampa.
• Uncle Ocho: "He didn’t sulk, he didn’t cry. He just put his boots on and he went to work. And I’m happy for him." (17:54)

Relationship Analogy

• Discussion pivots to broader life wisdom: "We all want to be wanted. Does your woman at home...allow you to be yourself so you can be the best version of you?" (15:31)

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3. Jets’ Offensive Catastrophe & Justin Fields’ Troubles (19:24–38:36)

Historically Bad Performance

• Breakdown of Jets’ offense: "9 of 17 for 45 passing yards...When you take away the sack yards, he was minus 10 yards passing. That is the fewest pass yards in Jets history..." (22:54)
• Team allowed 9 sacks, managed just 82 total yards.
• Uncle Ocho: "This is the worst offensive performance I’ve seen in a while. Not sure if it can be fixed. This was awful." (23:42)

Justin Fields on Thin Ice

• Co-host and Sharpe question Fields' processing and decision-making:
  • "I don’t know how well Justin Fields processes information. He freezes...In the NFL, you must throw people open." (24:21, 24:37)
• The coaching staff’s lack of trust in Fields is evident from their conservative play-calling before the half.

Locker Room Fractures & Quarterback Change Looming

• Sharpe warns: support for Fields could soon cost coaches the locker room.
• Co-host: "I thought this would be good for Justin Fields, especially with signs he showed with the Steelers...But it’s like they don’t even trust in the quarterback that they have..." (31:56)
• Tyrod Taylor named as a potential replacement if things don’t improve quickly.

Defensive Praise

• Broncos’ defensive rotation, led by Bonito, Cooper, and Allen, lauded as elite.
• Uncle Ocho: "Don’t get me wrong, that’s not a slouch defense...and Pat Surtain is hands down the best corner in football." (34:15)

Locker Room & Social Media

• Talk about modern distractions: "I’m surprised how many people, when they go to the locker room, the first thing they do is check their phone." (71:07)

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4. Giants Upset Eagles: Rookie QBs, Play-calling, & Eagles’ Struggles (39:01–66:12)

Giants’ Unexpected Win

• Giants beat the defending Super Bowl champion Eagles.
• Rookie QB Jackson Dart (17/25, 195 yards, 1 TD; added 58 rushing yards, 1 TD) and RB Scatterbo shine.
• Co-host: "Jackson Dart got his opportunity, came in and closed the door right behind him...He’s making throws, he’s improvising, using his legs, his arm...very exciting." (40:05)
• Giants’ offensive line improved protection, and the team capitalized on every Eagles’ mistake.

Eagles’ Offensive Identity Crisis

• Lack of route diversity and creativity for A.J. Brown and Philly’s top targets.
• Uncle Ocho: "I’m confused as to what they’re doing with A.J. Brown. Is that the only route y’all believe he can run? I don’t see any imagination in the calls." (45:26)
• Discussion on the importance of play-calling innovation to keep defenses guessing.

Critique of the Eagles’ Struggles

• Offensive line injuries; missing Saquon Barkley's explosiveness.
• New OC, loss of defensive personnel, and post-championship emotional hangover discussed.
• Uncle Ocho: "If you’re going to beat me, you’re going to beat me with Jalen Hurts throwing the football." (48:26)

Team Dynamics & Airing Grievances

• Debate on how much receivers should publicize frustration over targets/stats.
• Uncle Ocho: "Stats get me paid, not wins...Just keep it in house. When it gets out, everybody has their own interpretation of what’s going on." (65:50)

Giants' Rise, Eagles' Vulnerability

• Giants credited for opportunistic, aggressive football.
• Reminder that teams now see Eagles as vulnerable, and the "Super Bowl hangover" is real.
• Uncle Ocho: "When you show vulnerability early, teams think they can be had. That defense not as suffocating..." (52:50)

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5. Other Memorable Segments & Quotes

On the Tush Push (Eagles short-yardage play) (72:06)

• Co-host: "If you can’t stop it, don’t knock it...Tush push is not football? Well, let’s talk about some of the plays other teams run nobody can stop." (72:06)
• Micah Parsons’ social media mocking the play with trash emojis is dismissed; Sharpe calls it an execution issue, not a rule problem.

Coaching & Leadership

• Head coach taking over play-calling discussed as a panic move, usually best handled by empowering or redirecting coordinators, not micromanaging.

Locker Room Advice

• Don’t let frustration or bad results spill out into the media; fix it in-house.
• Co-host: "Take a shower first. Cool off, then talk to the media. Don’t give them no ammunition." (71:07)

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Notable Quotes

• Uncle Ocho [07:01]: "You don’t win that many games just because of the officials…they got good players, good scheme, great coaching."
• Uncle Ocho [22:54]: "When you take away the sack yards, [Justin Fields] was minus 10 yards passing. That is the fewest pass yards in Jets history.”
• Co-host [12:50]: "MVP is his to lose. The way Baker Mayfield is playing right now, he's playing the best football at the quarterback position."
• Uncle Ocho [45:26]: "Is that the only route y'all believe A.J. brown can run?...I don't see any creativity in the calls."
• Co-host [15:31]: “Does your woman at home...allow you to be yourself so you can be the best version of you? Because when you're the best version of you, you get what you get with Baker Mayfield.”

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Key Timestamps

• 00:00 — Chiefs-Lions recap “Mahomes is back”, offense/defense analysis
• 11:14 — Baker Mayfield, Bucs over 49ers, “MVP is his to lose”
• 19:24 — Jets' historically bad offense, Justin Fields’ future
• 39:01 — Giants upset Eagles: Jackson Dart, Giants offense, Eagles' woes
• 45:26 — Eagles' play-calling and A.J. Brown routes critique
• 52:29 — Eagles’ season outlook, vulnerability, impact on league perception
• 72:06 — Tush push debate, Micah Parsons’ critique

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Tone & Style

Authentic, lively, and laced with both blunt football truths and relatable life lessons, this episode swings between hardnosed critique, playful jabs, and wise veteran advice. There’s a heavy emphasis on accountability, locker room culture, and appreciation for adaptability—on the field and in life.

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This summary captures the spirit and substance of the episode, guiding listeners to the most compelling topics, perspectives, and football drama from Week 6.

Transcript

[Uncle Ocho]

Hello, it's your favorite sports unc here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you, so please subscribe or you're gonna make Ocho cry. Ocho the Chief beat the Lions 3017. After the game, cameras called Brian Branch refusing to shake Joe Patrick Mahomes hand and then shove Juju shoots. Juju in the face. Yeah, start a brawl. Patrick Mahomes threw for 257 yards, three touchdown ran for another score. Hollywood Brown had his best game as a Chief. Two touchdowns. Look more like Mahomes of oh, the Chiefs office is starting to get back into gear and starting to look like the Chiefs offense that we're used to seeing. When Patrick Mahomes basically started in what, 2018, 2019 and ran that thing all the way until like 23. This is the offense that we expected to see 22 of 32, 57, three touchdowns. They ran the ball 29 times for 112 yards. Really good. No turnovers. Clean game from my homeboy Ojo. Looking at. We'll get into Detroit talk about them in a minute. What did you like about what you saw from Kansas City?

[Co-host]

I mean the fact that we see an early Chiefs that we all used to love. We've seen the Chiefs that scored damn near 28, 30 points a game. You had receivers, it was by committee. You never knew who Knight it was going to be. So obviously now when you play the Chiefs and you're going in and you and you're studying, you're going from game to game, you don't know who night it's going to be tonight. It was Hollywood Brown. Last week it was. It might have been juju, it might have been Taekwond Thornton, you know, so the fact that they're also being able to establish the run to balance the offense out, to keep everything honest, especially defense because you don't know what's coming. That's the great thing for the Chiefs and the fact that Patrick Mahomes was playing so well, he played a clean game as well. Playing a clean game and then being able to play defense on the back end consistently against a great offense, a great creative offense that again I'm sure that Dan Campbell is responsible for it is a really good game. Obviously the Chiefs defense and offense has been up and down, which is something, it's been some slippage, something that we talked about early in the season and where we thought they really weren't going to be the Same especially coming out the gate. Zero. And, and look we in, we, we in week six. Huh? We in week six.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Week six.

[Co-host]

How the hell. Everything looked completely different than the conversations.

[Uncle Ocho]

We had just in the previous week.

[Co-host]

In the first previous week. So I mean what they've been able to do in such a short amount of time and changing everything around to everybody dropping balls or that they not playing defense like they used to. Well we could, we, we, we we talking about Chris Jones not, not hustling, not having effort, you know on certain plays to looking like they did tonight is, is, is. Is. Is unbelievable thing.

[Uncle Ocho]

I think the thing is. OO is that like you said each week is a different receiver LA tonight they really didn't use a whole lot of Twon Thorton. I didn't really see him on the field a whole lot. OO tonight it was all about juju. Travis Kelsey had his best game receiving of the year. Hollywood Brown. We mentioned Hollywood. Xavier Worthy doing Xavier Worthy but he didn't get a whole lot of opportunities. I think if you go back and look, look at what they've done weeks. Yes. Is that they've started off throwing the football in order to run the football. No. And they stayed in front of the sticks. This offense is predicated as long as we can stay and stay in third and short. Third and manageable. OO now we can run it or we can throw it. If you go back and look if see what they were on on third down. As long as they were manageable, they were good. What Kansas city was only 410 but they knew. Even Dan Campbell knew. Normally at home when they're clicking, you got to get to 30. You can't beat this team. You can't beat this team in Arrowhead if they're playing good football and you don't get to at least 30.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Or you need to take the ball away. You need to get a scoop and score. You know, strip side. You need to get a, a tip, a camera, something. But if they play a clean game and they're on top of their game, you're going to have to meet fire with fire. And you saw early on both teams going for it on fourth down because they knew kick and field goals weren't going to win them the game.

[Co-host]

Absolutely not.

[Uncle Ocho]

Look, last started Monday they threw the ball early, short stuff. Get the ball out of Mahomes hand. Let's try to slow this rush down and now we can get back to running. And I thought they did a good job. I thought Andy did an unbelievable Job of play calling tonight, getting the ball out of Mahomes quick and quick. And if you notice something ocho and we've seen this, the trans. The transformation over the last three years. My homeboy ain't sitting back there patting the ball. He'll take off running now.

[Co-host]

Oh, yeah. Oh yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely. Absolutely. The only thing I would say, my homeboy, sometimes you got knowing the journey over. Okay, now you keep dropping that shoulder, people. Now I'm telling you now, people, hey, people go, hey, they gonna drop anchor on you now.

[Co-host]

Mighty gonna catch him.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's what I'm saying, don't you. That's what I'm saying. And you know, quarterbacks don't do a whole lot of, A lot of they shoulder work is banned. They not lifted. So they don't got that, that, that meet up there. Like, like most guys have. Just be careful. But I like the way they played tonight. They did a great job. I really think the turning point of this ball game and it wasn't, you know, is that Aman Ross St. Brown has some of the best hands in football. But on that fourth down, I think that was a turn because they had great, they had great rhythm, they had great momentum and you know, they, because oo they going, they was going to get at worst case the field goal.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Now you get nothing. Now you get nothing out of that. And Kansas City get the ball right out of the gate. But Detroit, Detroit didn't play bad. I mean, when you play in Kansas City and they playing to the level of that they're playing tonight, they're going to be hard to beat. Now it doesn't matter if they're an arrowhead or they don't matter if they're coming to your building. That is still Patrick Mahomes.

[Co-host]

Right. And, and obviously we saw. What we saw tonight from the Chiefs is what we've seen consistently from the Lions. This. Yes, the Lions consistently, week in and week by week, week in and week out. And it just happens to be one of those weeks where you're playing a team. Now you're playing the other 31 teams. It's not that many teams is going to come out there and put 30 on you. No, ain't too many. You got, you got the Chiefs, you got maybe the packers, you got, you got maybe the Bucs that have the. Yeah, they have the offense to be able to kind of points you putting up where you have to meet fire with fire. Well, you have to take certain chances in certain situations because, you know, field goals is not going to get it done. Because this team can score at will, you know, throughout the majority of the game. So, I mean, when you have games like this, you want to be as perfect as possible. And the team that makes the fewest mistakes, whether it be drops, whether it be interception, whether it be turnovers, whatever it may be, the team that makes the fewest mistakes normally comes out on top. And that's what we saw tonight.

[Uncle Ocho]

I like that. I mean, there weren't a whole lot of penalties. The Chiefs had no penalties. The lions only had four for 38 yards. So this was a fairly clean game. The refs let them play, which we like to see. Ocho, we like when refs let them play. But we got to stop this notion. Every time the Chiefs win, it's the refs. You don't win that many games. Ain't no way you can get. You can get Travis Kelce, Mom. You can get his dad. You can get Taylor Swift. You can get a lot of people. Ain't no way you winning just because of the officials. And I get it. It happens all the time. They used to say the same thing with the Patriots. And that's what happens when you win a lot. People have to have a reason, well, why they win it instead of, like, you know, they got good players, they got a good system, they got a good scheme, they got great coaching. But we have to have a reason why instead of just looking at the product and looking at the players. See what. What has happened over the last years is that people like, well, they're catching up to Patrick Mahomes. Well, you're measuring Patrick against his. You're measuring everybody else at their best, but you're measuring him at his worst. So you telling me if Patrick Mahone plays his best and another and every other quarterback plays their best, you take that quarterback over Mahone? Boy, absolutely not. If every quarterback, all 32 quarterbacks, and everybody's healthy, if they played their absolute best and Patrick Mahomes plays his absolute best, you're not taking another quarterback that's currently playing in the NFL over Patrick Mahomes. That's how good he's been. I mean, think about it. He's been in the starter for eight years, and he's never. He doesn't know what it's like not to be in an AFC championship game. In five of those years, he's been in the Super Bowl. So when you look at it like that, and I get it some. Ocho, we get tired, man. Let's. How many times Ocho have you Heard, let somebody else win. How many times you heard that, Ocho? I'm tired of it. Let somebody else win. It don't work like that. When I put that kind of time in, you gonna have to beat me. Cause I'm just not gonna stop winning. Even when you were a kid, Ocho, I ain't finna let you win. Nope. You gotta beat me. I'm not gonna let you win. Look, I don't think there's anything wrong with the Lions. I really don't. I think their offense is really good. They missed some, missed a few opportunities, had a couple of drops, but I thought they did really well. They didn't get, I think they only got gave up one sack tonight. They were not as clean as they normally are. Over two on fourth down. That's not the Lions. The Lions are normally three or four on fourth downs, you know. Cause they're going to go for it. They're going to put pressure on you. You know, when you play the Lions, you got to score points.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Because every, every position that they have is really four downs. And you don't know. Now you like to say, like, damn, okay, four down. But they might fake punch it. Fake, fake punt it. And you see the play they call. But see, what they didn't realize is that the quarterback starts up at the center. He has to go get reset.

[Co-host]

Yeah, reset.

[Uncle Ocho]

So he has to come to a complete stop.

[Co-host]

You know, I was confused on that call as well, because most of the time I'm thinking, well, wait a minute. Now I see the Dolphins, the other team, do the same thing all the time. Tyreek could come in motion, and he never comes to a complete stop. The ball just snaps.

[Uncle Ocho]

But he didn't start on the center.

[Co-host]

Exactly. See, I, I, I know. I didn't, I didn't know that little pickle right there.

[Uncle Ocho]

So that it's a lot, it's a lot of little nuances. It's just like if two people are moving at the same time. Once you're going to have to, Both guys going to have to come to a complete stop, or you're going to have two guys in motion. And that's what they got. Illegal. You got illegal motion. But I think, look, this was a great game tonight. Obviously, I would like to see it a little closer. I was hoping Detroit could score, but maybe get an onside kick, make it really, really interesting. But give Kansas City, when they needed to bow their backs, they bowed their backs. And that's what you want from a great team when it's all said and done, Kansas City is going to be there in the end. Oo yeah. They get Rashid Rice back this week. OO yeah.

[Co-host]

He sure is coming. He sure is coming back. And the funny thing about it is, not only is he coming back, but as well as they played so far without him, each week they've gotten better and better and like I said, it's by committee. You don't know which receiver is going to have his day. I don't like the fact that Tyquan Thornton has such a intricate part of.

[Uncle Ocho]

The offense and he was nothing today.

[Co-host]

All of a sudden tonight, you know, they know the package of whatever plays they might have had for him, it just wasn't the same. I hate when they play that.

[Uncle Ocho]

I hate that too, because he's played so well and he's gaining confidence and the last thing I want to do is, is to do something to suppress his confidence because he's looking around like, what? What did I do this week? I mean, why was I not. Because he scored a touchdown damn near every week he's played. OO yeah. And he's played extremely well. Big catch after big catch, big play after big play. So it's very, very unfortunate. Hopefully. Excuse me. They get into a situation where they get him where he can come back around and make play for him again. Oh. The Bucks beat the 49ers 30 to 19. Baker 3 Two touchdown passes and had a spectacular scramble. Fans serenaded him with MVP chance and many were still hailing Baker as he left the stadium. The injury riddled 49ers lost four time all pro linebacker Fred Warner to a dislocated right ankle. Kyle Shanahan said he the ankle was broken and dislocated and he'll need season ending surgery. Baker 17 of 23, 256, two touchdowns. Bua left the ball game. So he's playing without his four top receivers. Hey, Bucky Irving is top running back and he's still doing that right now. He's the MVP front runner. I know it's only six weeks into the season, but it's his lose, huh?

[Co-host]

Is his lose.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Co-host]

MVP is his to lose. The way Baker Mayfield is playing right now, he's playing the best, the best football at the quarterback position with no Mike Evans, no Chris Godwin, obviously. Bucky Irving goes down. Ibuka goes out today with a hamstring injury and he still doesn't miss a beat.

[Uncle Ocho]

In the past, played a couple of games without Chris. Tristan Worth y yes.

[Co-host]

Yes. The. The awesome. Awesome. One of the Better left tackles in today's game as well. Hey, Baker Mayfield again. Situations matter. Oh, my goodness, he's playing good.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's better, Ocho to let guys be themselves. I think that's why a lot of guys have success in Baltimore, because they don't try to change you, whoever you are, all we want you to do is play hard. If you like to talk, talk. If you want to be quiet, hey, ain't nobody going to talk to you. Whatever you like to do, whoever you are, we want you to be more of that. And see Baker. This is who Baker is. Tampa say you lead. If you want to joke and you want to die and you want to dance, you want to do like. Hold on, take off.

[Co-host]

Did you see him after he had that scramble run where he escaped the pocket? Yeah, the sideline came back. When he got up, all I could think about was, when you put that goddamn flag in.

[Uncle Ocho]

The flag. He planted the flag in the shoe.

[Co-host]

Yeah, man, that's. That's okay. That's the Baker Mayfield to love. You know, obviously, quarterback position, they have to carry themselves a certain way. They have to be almost political robots, in a sense. He's one of the few that does not abide by that rule.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right. He's a very. He's a very emotional guy, but he can flat out throw the football. And so. And it doesn't matter who's in there, he's go, hey, I'm gonna get you the football. He like to say, look, there are a couple of guys. Sam Darnold is in that discussion for mvp. Sam Darnold is playing extremely well. Obviously, Mahomes is going to be somewhere loafing, lagging around, because I think Mahomes probably have. How many touchdowns, interceptions does Mahomes have, Ash? But he's playing extremely well. But shake and Bake. Shaking, bake, shaking, Bake, doing his thing, man. And see, you know, somebody that believes in you, somebody that wants you, at the end of the day, we all want to be wanted.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

If you're in a relationship, you want your. You want to know that your partner wants to be with you. You want. I ain't saying you got to tell me every day.

[Co-host]

Yeah. But they gotta let you appreciate you. Hey, man, you know, I'm glad you said that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Huh?

[Co-host]

Now, I know we talking football right now, and. And that. That resonated with me right now, because sometimes we unsure, because sometimes we have to ask, you know?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Co-host]

Excuse me, miss. Hey. Do you want me. You sure? Okay. Cool. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I think everything is okay. Yeah, she brought me. Yeah. Appreciate that. I'm glad you just said that, man. Because sometimes fellas at home, like, if just you need to ask and make sure you know how the bucks want Baker Mayfield. Does your woman at home and your girlfriend or whoever you see and do they allow you to be yourself so you can be your best version of you, you know? Because when you're the best version of you, you get what you get with Baker Mayfield. So if you feel like you're in prison and you're not free, you know, to be able to blossom and bloom like yourself, you need to ask that question.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

You just want some? Sometimes you just want to be appreciated. Sometimes I just, just tell them to say, you know what? I appreciate you.

[Co-host]

Yeah, you. Yeah, yeah. You didn't tell me you appreciate me.

[Uncle Ocho]

I just, I appreciate you.

[Co-host]

You appreciate me. Oh, thank you.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's you. I, I, look, I ain't big. I, I, I, I'm big on affirmation. That's my thing. Yeah, and, and, and, and that, that's how I operate. And Baker, he just wanted to be appreciated. Hey, let me. Look, I'm not gonna put you in harm's way. Yeah, look, I'm not. But, but I'm gonna. And, you know, I think, look, those progressive commercials, I think the thing is with that, you know, I think Cleveland, he's the quarterback of the Browns now. He's basically the only really commercials I see. Now, I don't know what they do in local, but the only really commercials that I see national is the Heisman house, you see, and he does a great job. Those guys, I mean, that's a family. That's a brotherhood. There's only X amount of those guys, and they do a great job. But I think he's really focused, you know, he doesn't forget anything. Yeah, and, and, and Cleave, you got rid of me. Can you imagine letting us? Man, like, he wasn't the mvp. Like, y' all had mvp. Y' all had this. Yeah, but y' all didn't believe in me. Y' all said y' all wanted a grown up. I guess I grew up, huh? Hey, now, the, the Carolina situation. Temper. I know he got mad at Steve Wilkes, but an interim coach, if not, doesn't have any say. That's Tepper.

[Co-host]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Uncle Ocho]

He goes to the Rams. We know he wasn't going to be the Rams because Matthew Stafford won the super bowl, so we know he wasn't going to stay there. But he goes to Tampa and he gets into a Situation where you got Chris Godwin, you got Mike Evans, you got Kate Otten, Jason Light has done a great job of drafting. You get Bucky Irving, you get White, you get me a booker. So he's done an unbelievable job. But give Baker credit. He didn't complain, he didn't hang his head. Oh, Paul Baker. Oh, man, I can't believe Cleveland did that to me. Yeah, he didn't do any of that. He didn't sulk, he didn't cry. He just put a. Put his boots on and he went to work. And I'm, I'm happy. I'm happy for him. I've been, I've been wanted. Like when he was in Cleveland when he didn't play well, I said that. But I have no problem whatsoever giving a man. Giving a man credit. When credit is due, his credit is due.

[Co-host]

Definitely do.

[Uncle Ocho]

He playing his ass off.

[Co-host]

Every. And you know what? Every dollar he's earning. Every cent.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, oh, Baker, Finn, Baker Finn to get him look again. A three year deal. Oh, yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, he did. He. He didn't hear in year two of a three year deal. So they're gonna come see him. Oh, BAKER Finna get one of those 50 millions. Oh yeah, but sure.

[Co-host]

Well, he making 49.

[Uncle Ocho]

He'll make it 33. They gave him three years by the 100 million.

[Co-host]

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, they now need more than that because y' all see them other guys. I need that. Come see me.

[Co-host]

Y' all got. Yeah, come see me. I need that.

[Uncle Ocho]

We asked. Mahomes has 11 touchdowns to two interceptions. Time for our final segment of the evening. It's time. Q and A. Oh, you know what.

[Co-host]

Time it is out here?

[Uncle Ocho]

What time is it?

[Co-host]

It's 6.

[Uncle Ocho]

21Am yeah.

[Co-host]

What's it. Because she just went to the airport. So my flight at 10 o'. Clock. So I land in Miami at 5 and I'm taking the kids at an NBA youngboy concert.

[Uncle Ocho]

Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy. For the record, I have fired my weatherman. Clearly he did not see a storm coming. Still love my Cowboys. You remember say the weatherman says gonna be a cowboy victory. Weatherman always lying. Marty Coffee says Shador need representation. That can free him from Cleveland. That's the real story. Not Lions Chief. They got his right. Can't nobody free him from nowhere. Danny B. No New England Patriots fans in the chat is wild. Drake May is playing good football. Drake May is playing great football. Nominal morning coffee. Uncle Ocho read the room. We want Shador free.

[Co-host]

But that, that ain't what they got.

[Uncle Ocho]

To do with it.

[Co-host]

Hey, that ain't gonna work.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, he ain't got no parole coming up. He ain't up for parole. TS car washing detail service. Bengals need Russ bad. Just spend the money. Who's the tallest NFL quarterback ever played? I think Dan McGuire. I think he was six, eight and a half. Oswal was like six, seven. I think Dan McGuire, Mark McGuire brother played with the Seahawks.

[Co-host]

Listen, Flacco, Flacco were just fine today for those. I mean, we lost the game, but unless you watch. I watched the whole game. I'm like, yeah, we, we can work, we can work with this. There's only so much they can put on this plate coming into this game. He was only sacked one time. You expect a game like this with the, with the, with the front line that the packers have.

[Uncle Ocho]

I.

[Co-host]

You. You would think it would be turmoil, it'd be chaos, but it wasn't. You know, there was some good, some good flashes. Offensively, we gonna be all right. And you'll be able to see him Thursday night when it's the actual only game that's on.

[Uncle Ocho]

Still gonna kick that. L. Jason Zeldorf, Justin Fields. Aaron Glenn said football back a hundred years. Who's the most God awful quarterback in the NFL? Justin, Russ or Chad? Make Jake Browning. Chad's man, Jake Browning. Well, Jake Browning is the worst, but two of the three gotten benched. If Justin Fields don't start playing better, he about to make it three for three.

[Co-host]

Ocho, who's the back? Oh, Tyrod. Yeah, Tyrod is definitely capable of competing and giving you a chance. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

I told you.

[Co-host]

Listen, one thing about it, the one thing about it. Please, please don't do that. Please don't do that. Yo, don't do that. Because it didn't look as good as you did. It looked like a woman with no makeup. That's what the game. It wasn't pretty. It looked like a woman with no makeup.

[Uncle Ocho]

It was an ugly contest.

[Co-host]

It's nothing.

[Uncle Ocho]

And y' all still lost. You know what I'm saying? It was an ugly contest and you lost.

[Co-host]

Okay. Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

And I told you what was gonna happen. I told you. I told you what's gonna happen. I said, oh, Joe, they're gonna be. They're gonna be on Justin Fields like lions on a wildebeest. I said, you watch what I did?

[Co-host]

Yeah. Did you see. You was right. You're right. Did you see your stat line?

[Uncle Ocho]

I saw his stat line. To go over his stat line. He was 9 of 17 for 45 passing yards. When you take away the sack yards, he was minus 10 yards passing. That is the. That's the fewest pass yards in jets history. That's the fewest allowed by a team since 1998. So it's been 27 years since somebody has had a worse passing line than what Justin Fields had today. They sacked him nine times for minus 55 yards. They had 82 yards, Chad. In an NFL game, a team had 82 yards of total offense. In a 60 minute NFL game. They were 2 of 15 on third down, 57 yards of total offense.

[Co-host]

Jesus.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, just let me take that back. They had 82 yards of total offense, nine sacks, 15 hits, seven tackles for losses, four passes defended, minus 10 net passing yards. This is. And I tweeted Ocho, this is a new low even for the Jets. 82 total yards. 82 effing yards in an NFL game. 2 of 15 on third downs and allowed nine sacks. This is the worst offensive performance I've seen in a while. Not sure if it can be fixed. This was awful. And it was Ocho.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ocho, I don't think I'm breaking news.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm gonna be honest with Jojo. I don't know how well Justin Fields processes information. He freezes. He freezes. There were a couple of times Ocho, he's got to take the flat right now and he doesn't.

[Co-host]

Oh, he's waiting on something else to develop.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes. I don't, I don't know what it is. Ocho, he's got to get out. This isn't college. In the NFL you must throw people open. Guys are not. Yes. Sometimes they'll blow a coverage and you. And the guy's wide open, you could throw it to them. But nine, eight and a half times out of 10, you got to throw guys open in this league.

[Co-host]

Guys are just.

[Uncle Ocho]

The guys are too good.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And I just don't know. And I'm watching the Mocho and he freezes a lot of time. It's like. I'm like bro. And I don't know. I don't know. And we blame the Chicago and we said it was Eber flutes and we Pittsburgh. Well, he didn't get a chance. Now he has a chance. And I don't know what it is, but I just know this. He's not processing the information as fast as he needs to. And to be great at that position, you must process everything information extremely fast because Ocho is happening. It's 1, 2, 3. Hey, you skate 1, 2. It's gone.

[Co-host]

You got to get out of there. Most definitely. Especially with. With them not really blocking well for him being sacked nine times a day. See, from your point of view, so you're able to have better context on why it looked the way it did. You know, sitting sweet and watching, you know, live in person is a little different. You just see everything happening fast in person. Don't know why it's happening because there's no replay. There's nothing. There's nothing you can.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's why I don't like watching games in the stadium. Because you look for the replay. Because I want to see. Yeah.

[Co-host]

So I'm. I really couldn't understand. I didn't know what is. I don't. I didn't know it was as bad as it was. Once I saw the stat lines at the end of the game, I saw him obviously running for his life. I saw there. There wasn't much they were able to do offensively. You know, I talked. I talked to A.G. i talked to A.G. before the game. I was like, listen, congratulations on everything you're doing. You know, let's hope. I hope you guys turn this thing around and getting. The boys are playing and, hey, I guess it's just. This just wasn't the week. Not playing against that goddamn Broncos defense. You said what they was going to do, and they went out there and did everything you said it was going to do. It's almost like. It's almost like the jets don't even look like an NFL team. Damn near.

[Uncle Ocho]

They don't at times. They really don't. I'm like, did y' all practice? Ain't no way you practice either. Either one or two things you're not practicing or you're practicing to be just this bad. Because normally people practice to be good. You got to practice doing what they're doing. This is. This is bad. And I hate it for AG because I know AG personally. I know him well. He's a really good dude, but he could not have gotten off to the worst start.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Because these guys, if, for whatever reason, whatever they're coaching is not resonating, it's not getting through to them. Garrett Wilson was asked on the side, asked about his. His sideline exchange with Aaron Glenn at the end of the first half. Let's take. Yes, let's take a listen to what he had to say at the end of the first half when you were walking off the field. Is that the way the driver went?

[Garrett Wilson (interviewee)]

Well, really, like, you know, that stuff like that is just. I don't know. Y'. All. Y'.

[Uncle Ocho]

All.

[Garrett Wilson (interviewee)]

I just didn't know exactly what the plan was, and. And once I figured it out, you know, I was disappointed. I'll just say that. So.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

How did you run a play? Is that what you meant?

[Garrett Wilson (interviewee)]

Yeah, I didn't know exactly, like, what the plan was. I just. I just thought we were. Once we, you know, converted the fourth down, I just thought we were going for the, you know, trying to make the play, and then obviously, we get to another fourth down, and it's a tough spot to be in. So, you know, in hindsight, I get why they did that, but in the moment, I was just like, man, I don't know.

[Co-host]

Yeah, he.

[Garrett Wilson (interviewee)]

He.

[Co-host]

He's speaking. He's. He's speaking Pacifics. Huh? He's speaking Pacifics, you know?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes. I don't know. I didn't know what they was doing. I was like, y' all just gonna let the time run out? Ain't nobody. You're not gonna run a play. You're not gonna even attempt anything.

[Co-host]

Yeah. I was thinking about clock management as well, and I'm like, why the hit? Why are they letting the clock go all the way down? Let's. Let's try to do something. Let's. Let's do something. But obviously, you know, he's frustrated. He's frustrated.

[Uncle Ocho]

He should be. The guy was. Hold up. The guy had been. He was offensive rookie of the year with some very marginal quarterbacks.

[Co-host]

Yeah, exactly.

[Uncle Ocho]

And allegedly, supposedly, they had exposed to have gotten better quarterbacks.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

But his stats aren't indicative of that, so he's frustrated by that. Second of all, when you do what they did, it tells me you don't trust your quarterback.

[Co-host]

Yeah, okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's the only reason you would do something like that. Because we've seen other teams with other quarterbacks with that same amount of time try to run plays, and if we got time, we're gonna call, we're gonna use our timeouts or we're gonna help the guys, hope the guys can get out of bounds. But when you just let that amount of time just run off the clock, ain't no way in hell. You cannot convince me. Yeah, they trust the quarterback.

[Co-host]

You don't. You don't. Because that's the only reason you do a time like that. We can't put our team. We can't put our quarterback because in decision making is not where it needs to be debate. Be able to put him in situations that might not be advantageous for him because he might make the Wrong decision with the ball. We can't trust him.

[Uncle Ocho]

To make matters worse, Wilson suffered an injury to one of his knee ligaments and he'll have an MII upon returning to New Jersey. Ocho, look, and when he did and he was late with the ball, he was all over the place. He had him on the out and, and, and, and he throws it behind him. He had another guy. He had, he would have had the first down. And you know, he ends up hurting his back. And so the. On fourth down, they don't even have Garrett Wilson in the ball game. I'm like.

[Co-host]

Whatever could go wrong went wrong today.

[Uncle Ocho]

It went wrong. But Ocho, even the best defense attorney, Wilts instruct you at some point in time. Yeah, we don't have a winnable case at some point in time. And it's coming sooner rather than later. Yeah, I don't know. I don't, I don't know how much further I can stick my neck out for Justin Fields. Yeah, I don't know, Ocho. I don't know.

[Co-host]

And in order to have a chance in this league, it's 32 teams. In order to have a chance. I don't care who's coaching, I don't care what you have on the offensive line. I don't care what you have at receiver. I don't care what you have on defense. In order to have a chance in today's era of football, you gotta have a quarterback. He doesn't have to be the fastest, he doesn't have to have the best arm. He just has to be consistent in his decision making. He has to have exquisite anticipatory skills and being able to play this play, the position, being able to process information in front of him and being able to do exactly what you ask of him to make sure that offense goes, whatever that may be. Whatever it may be. I thought, I thought this would be good for Justin Fields, especially with the signs that he showed with the Steelers last year.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes.

[Co-host]

Who are leading them to a winning record until Russell Wilson was given a job by Mike Tomlin. I'm like, you know what? If Justin Fields gets his own team, I think he's going to be okay because he showed flashes of brilliance and what he could do when he's quarterback number one. Now you quarterback number one, you ain't got nobody to worry about. You don't have nobody looking over your shoulder so you can actually play free. But based on the play call and some of the things that, that they were doing, it's like they don't even trust in the quarterback that they have because they're not. The play calling isn't free. We have to protect our quarterback from himself. So you know what? We're going to the half. We're gonna let the clock run out because we don't. We don't even want to put him in the situation. We have to make certain decisions because it can go wrong.

[Uncle Ocho]

You're right. It's. It's bad. It's bad. And I know and AG's like wants to show support, but I don't know how much longer that. Because at the end of the day, oo, you got 50 other guys in that locker room now. And I understand the loyalty that you want to have for your quarterback and you want to show support, but you'll lose the locker room supporting one as opposed to the other guys because they'll look like. And they know. Oo, you've been in locker rooms for a long time. I've been in locker rooms.

[Co-host]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And. And maybe Tyrod, maybe it's time to a. Maybe you give it a couple of more games. You like? Well, hey, Justin, I'm sorry. We're gonna have to let. Let, let Tyrod have a go of this.

[Co-host]

Yeah, yeah. See. See if he can get some things going.

[Uncle Ocho]

Cuz this is. This. This doesn't. This does. This is. This is terrible. Now look, the Broncos defense is really, really good. That front seven. Oh, they can have your quarterback. Yeah. You think about it, they're rotational the A. Bonito and Cooper, they'll go a series and then the next they got a whole different set of lineup. Yeah. And they. Hey, they got that. They got a. They got a NASCAR package that they just keep rotating them and they keep coming. They collapse you from the outside and then you got big Allen collapse in the middle. So. Or and they're going to run you into somebody. If you run wide coup. Got you. If you run to the other side, Bonito got you. You try to step up in the pocket. You got Allen collapse in the pocket. So they're really good. Don't get me wrong now that's not a slouch. Defense and passer Tain is legit. Yeah, he is legit. He is hands down the best corner in football.

[Co-host]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely. And he is smooth, man. He is so smooth the way he can transition. And he's long. Hey, his arm like this long. And so he doesn't have to be that close to do this or to do this.

[Co-host]

Yeah, he's really good.

[Uncle Ocho]

He's so Fluid. I mean, for some. To someone to be as tall as he is and to be as fluid through the hips as he is. Because, bro, he backpedal and get out of there in a hurry, and he can whip his hips and go. Being raised on a farm. I was in 4H, went to county fairs, went to a goat show, a cow show, and I've seen this, and I've been to the circus.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

I ain't never seen no issue like what I saw with the jets today.

[Co-host]

You've been around a lot of football, too. You ain't seen nothing.

[Uncle Ocho]

I have. But today, this. Today I'm talking about, like, look, and I've been on. I'm like, damn. I'm trying to think. I think maybe one other time that I've actually been around and I saw it. Hell, I was a part of it.

[Co-host]

Right.

[Uncle Ocho]

I think you got to go back to 92 and the Eagles. The Eagles beat us. I think they beat us 30 to nothing. I don't know if we had 50 yards of total offense.

[Co-host]

The Ravens.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. No, the Eagles. No, I was with the Broncos.

[Co-host]

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, but that. That was. So. That was what, 33 years ago?

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And you got to think about it, Ocho, they said the last time somebody had that fewer yards in a passing game, that was 98. That was 27 years ago. So you're talking about almost three decades. This doesn't happen often. So people, I don't want you to think that. Oh, man, that could. No, this does not happen often, especially in today's game when it's catered for the quarterback and the receivers because you can't punish the quarterback and it's hard for you to touch the receivers. So with that being said, to get a performance like what they got today, Ocho, 82 yards of total offense.

[Co-host]

That's a testament to how good that defense actually is. Even with them being handicapped because of the rules. That's just how good they are and.

[Uncle Ocho]

How bad the opposing team was. It's a combination.

[Co-host]

That. That too. Hey, listen, two things can be true.

[Uncle Ocho]

And you absolutely can be true. But I don't. I don't know where the jets go. I do know. I do know. They take their ass home and he. You know, it's a long. That's a long ass flight to take an ass whip. And you sold.

[Co-host]

Do you even watch film or do you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hell, no, I ain't showing that.

[Co-host]

Yeah, yeah. I was gonna say.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm putting that where they put Jimmy Hoffa. Where the hell. Wherever the hell that is. I'm burying that tape. Ain't nobody gonna see that. As a matter of fact, I'm gonna sue NFL Films that they show it. You better be glad that they got like. Remember they used to have inside the NFL. Oh, and they have the third. The Thursday night. They have the game. Yeah. And they show highlight from the game. Nah, don't y' all show that.

[Co-host]

Show nothing.

[Uncle Ocho]

Don't y' all show what a deep thing. But. But this was. This was bad. This was bad. And. And. And you can lose. You can lose. You can lose a locker room if you're not careful.

[Co-host]

But also, there's one thing about losing the locker room and a coach having to make a very tough decision, you know, for a quarterback, for a quarterback that you. You consider your number one, a quarterback that. That that's been paid. Is the backup. Is the backup the answer? Because once. Once you make a move in the middle of a season like this. We're only in week six. Once you make a move like this, you're making a move.

[Uncle Ocho]

I think they give them a couple more weeks, Ocho, but if they don't turn this thing around, I can see a situation. Ocho, if we owe. We owing 8, 0 and 9, 0 and 10. So what we try to. I mean, what are we trying to do? Because I already know a team and another team that's in the Midwest that's trying to get the number one pick, that's Cleveland, and we'll talk about them in a minute. For the jets, trying to get the number one pick. Okay, because you're trying to get number one pick. You just stay the course.

[Co-host]

I see where you're going.

[Uncle Ocho]

Because that quarterback that you bring in there, Tyrone's, gonna try to win games.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm just telling you. And I'm not saying Justin Fields isn't. So you just tell. Just tell me what to do. Because here's the thing. These other guys in the locker room, they don't care that you're trying to build for the future. I ain't trying to get my head split right now while you building for the future. Damn your future. My future is right now. Because I might not even be here when we get good.

[Co-host]

Yeah. Which is true. Which is true. And they're gonna be some heads rolling now. There's gonna be some attitudes. They're gonna be some frustrations, especially from five, you know, Garrett Wilson ain't gonna go for that. Not gonna go for that. You. You paid me like the receiver that I am. Please use me as such, please use me as such.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ocho, tonight this game wasn't close. Jackson dart did it with his arm and his leg. Scat pack was sensational. 19 carries, 98 yards, three touchdown. Jackson Dart 13 carries, 58 yards, another touchdown. They gained 172 yards on the ground. Jackson Dart was 17 of 25, 195, one touchdown. He was sacked, but he didn't turn the ball over. And when you can turn the ball, when you can take care of the football and you play, you have a great chance of winning. Jalen Hurst was 24, 33, 283, one touchdown. Ocho, what we say about that late ball, if you latent inside is going the other way every time and it almost did. They ran the ball 20 times for 73 yards, but they ran the tush push four times in a row. They got a touchdown on it. Dallas Garden has seven catches, 110 yards, a touchdown. A.J. brown has six for 80. Devonte Smith, who Jalen hurts overthrew, had, would have had like a 90 yard touchdown but he had 4 for 49. Ocho, the Giants just. The Giants did whatever they wanted to do.

[Co-host]

Both sides of the ball too at that. On both sides of the ball at that. For when I want to talk about Jackson Dart, I want to talk about how good Jackson Dart looks as a, as a rookie. Obviously Russell Wilson started the season for the Giants, but when Jackson Dart got his opportunity, he came in and close the door right behind him. Yep, he's making the throws, he's reading, he's improvising, he's escaping, he's eluding, he's using his legs, he's using his arm. His best weapon went down with knee injury. But you wouldn't know that his best weapon offensively outside of Scatterbo was hurt. Jackson Dart is a real deal and he's very exciting. The combination of him and skettable together, it's like two little kids it's like two little kids out there on the playground just enjoying the game of football at the highest level. And it's refreshing. It's refreshing for the Giants fans as you can see and you can hear. You know, you watch, you watch, you watch the game with the sound off, but just, just watching the reaction and the sound of the Giants.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, they going, I can see the fans when they panning and the fans go, I'm sure they saying bo for scatter bow. Scat pack was doing his thing. Jackson Dart, I'm sure they're hell and dark. Look, this was, look and we'll get to this, Ocho, because the Eagles didn't play well and they got some issues. And we tried to tell them about the issues that they have. But you know what, Ocho? But you can't tell Giants fan anything. Because if you. If I critique Jalen hurts. You don't like black people. You don't say this about white quarterback. If I critique the team, I'm jealous. I'm envious. Okay, fine. I should have your undivided attention. Cause I couldn't get your attention at first because you was winning. You see that when you win it, you can't get nobody's attention. Now I should have your undivided attention. Cause you lost twice. Yes, the Giants, they got the makers of a good team. The only thing that concerns me, Ocho, is pressure. There were times back there that Jalen.

[Co-host]

Hurst would just sitting there patting the.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ball and two of the three and two of the four pass rushers was on the ground. They've got to generate pressure because they don't have elite on the back end. And so you should be able. When you got D. Lawrence, when you got Thibodeau, when you got Abdul Carter, that should be more than enough to create pressure, to create havoc. And not nearly. And I forgot Brian Burns. Brian Burns, yeah, that should be enough. More than enough to create havoc. Not enough havoc was created tonight. You won the game. But in order for you to keep building on this, you got 10 weeks, you got 10 days off. You get an opportunity to soak in this. I'm sure the Giants fans are going crazy, somewhat crazy, because the Yankees lost last night. But if you're a Giant fan, you look at Jackson Dar, you're like, man, he won his first game. He was playing really well against the Saints. And then he started turning the ball over. If we could protect the ball, I think we might got something. Scat Pack was doing. What Scat Pack does, he runs hard. He's looking to run through, as Marshawn lynch would say, run through a mofo face. And he runs with authority. He's looking to deliver a blow. When he blocks, he's blocking all out. When he's running, he's running all out. He missed a couple of cuts early, but hey, all is forgiven. He's a rookie. He'll get better as time progresses. But I thought the Giants offensive line, Ocho, remember we talked about that thing was a sieve that, hey, people just come in, hey, you gonna block him? But they did a great. I thought they did a better job tonight. Of protecting Jackson Dart. He did a great job of avoiding the rush. When he needed to run, he got rid of, he got out of the pocket. When he needed to throw the ball away, he threw it away. I like what I saw from the New York Football Giants. Wandell Robinson had himself a game, a little John Humphrey. I thought he made some plays tonight, Ocho, but I mean, what can we say? The Giants, I mean, I don't think anybody really had picked the Giants to win this game, but it just goes to show you, hey, you take care of the football and it's a division game, Mocho. It's a rival game. You know, you throw records out the window when you play in a rival now.

[Co-host]

Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. But listen, if you, you, you also understand if you're a bet man, if you're a bet man, you're definitely picking the Eagles.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes. Well, I wonder what the line was. What was the, you know what the line was, Ocho? No, I, I, it had to be proud to be at least, I'm thinking at least four, four and a half.

[Co-host]

Listen, you're going against a rookie quarterback, defending super bowl champs, everybody named Mama, probably pick the Eagles to actually win this game. But when you have a quarterback like Jackson Dart, who has been as exciting as he is, who has been unpredictable, as he's been since he's gotten a starting job, I mean, for those who actually know and understand the game of football, and based on the small sample size of Jackson Dart, that we've been able to see, you throw caution to win when you come to betting against the Giants, especially after tonight's performance. So going forward, you know, I think things are going to change a little bit when it comes to watching, not only watching the Giants, but putting whatever money you want to on them to win a certain game or Pacific game.

[Uncle Ocho]

At that, it seems like the line was seven, seven and a half. Depend on where you was batting, who you was betting. You know where you, you know who, what line you took. I'm confused, Ocho. Talk to me.

[Co-host]

Wait, hold on. Wait. Before you say anything, let me get comfortable.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm confused as to what they're doing with A.J. brown. I watched a man run two unders in a row. I'm like, is that the only route y' all believe A.J. brown can run? He run under. He run. Look, he, they try to run him on like a little, a little, a little six, seven yard out, but I don't see no imagination in the routes. I don't see no magic, no, no creativity in the calls, man, look, you. They running smash concepts. They run, they run this, they run the sale and then they run, they run the spot, what we call a spot route. Or they'll run, they'll run, they'll run the out and then they'll run the under. Or Devonte would try starting to slot and he'll run fake, run the fade, or he'll run the smash route. I mean, he and, and Brown would run. I'm like, damn, yeah. If I'm. Jalen Hurst said, man, I'm tired of running these damn under routes. Give me a dig, give me a comeback, give me a deep over. Give me something. Hey, run a bang. Yeah, we ain't got no bangs.

[Co-host]

Yeah. I, I will say they made, they made a conscious effort to give him the ball. They made a conscious effort to get him the ball in the first half. And there were some plays that broken down where he was able to scramble out the pocket and get the ball to AJ it wasn't many of them, but he had a better stat line this week.

[Uncle Ocho]

Second best most yards he's had. He had that 100 yard game against the Rams where they were down by a lot at half. And then they came out, made a conscious effort like we got to throw the ball because we can't run ourselves back in the ball game. And it's like, okay, A.J. so he had 6 for 80. Dallas Goddard had 6, 9 for 110. Smitty would have been over 100 had Jaylen not overthrew him. He put a little bit too much gas up under devonte, ran a really good route, had him. I mean, he could have walked back was and got into the end zone because it looked like his defender had fallen down. Ocho. Yeah. When you, when, when you look at the Eagles, what's going on? Clearly, clearly that meeting didn't help. Yeah, I don't know what they discussed. I don't care to know. 34, 17. It's been a while since the Eagles lost the game by that and this game wasn't. This game wasn't. I mean, this thing got out of the head quick.

[Co-host]

Yeah, it did. It did. And I would think some, obviously, I think we'll start up front with some of the pieces to that offensive line being missing small holes that you, that you, you try to cover up, you know, weak links that you try to cover up but you just can't. There's a reason why Saquon Barkley isn't being as successful in the running game as he was last Year because he wasn't Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho]

You, you knew they were Ocho. You thought they gonna let that man come back and rush for another 2,000?

[Co-host]

Hey, you do understand the Eagles do have the best offensive line in the league.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, but.

[Co-host]

Right.

[Uncle Ocho]

What did I tell you? If you're going to beat me, you're going to beat me with Jalen Hurst throwing the football. Oh, yeah, because I like my chances better beating you with him throwing the football than Saquon Barkley running for 125 a game.

[Co-host]

Right.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's really that simple. And that's not a knock. I'm not going to let. But I'm not going to let you have a two way go of it. Not say Quan's running it. Now you play action and throw the ball over the top of my head. Nah, nah, nah. If he gonna throw the ball with pinpoint accuracy and guess what I'm gonna do, Ojo? I'm only. I'm not gonna bring. I'm not gonna drop eight in the box. I'm not gonna throw one on one. I'm gonna make you throw through zones. I'm gonna make you throw the coverage. Now you do that consistently, okay? I tilt my hat to you.

[Co-host]

I can live with that.

[Uncle Ocho]

But I am not going to let Saquon do what he did last year and then be at your mercy. Now, you throw when you want to. You run when you want to. You got me begging, man. Throw the ball, man. Run the ball. Nah, hell no. You gonna beg for something different. Look, it's early in the season, but clearly something is something is a miss. With the Eagles, it's hard to pick right up where you left off. Oo. If someone had been in that situation, you have to, you have to really. You have to really turn your mind off to like, man, we won the Super Bowl. Yeah, you did that last year. You think these teams going to roll over just because you won the Super Bowl? You're their super bowl this year.

[Co-host]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

The teams that didn't win the super bowl, guess what? When they see your ass on the schedule now that gives us. You know what Brian Daboff said? That's the defending super bowl champs and we just hung 34 on them. You see, when we play, we can beat anybody in this league. That's what they're saying. Because that's the Eagles. That's the defending super bowl champ. So now teams based their. Their. They based how good they are on whether or not they beat them.

[Co-host]

And, and now you see why now. Now this gives You a better reason why. Why Jalen hurts when they ask him about the super bowl and how it feels to be champs, why he throws it out the door. That was last year.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Co-host]

Because he understood how difficult it would be to not only repeat, but to have the same success going into this same way. Now we're seeing the struggles that they are having being that they're not at full strength, especially at the offensive line. Some of the defensive pieces are a little different than they were last year, and things are different. New offensive coordinator, he had. Things have to evolve offensively, you know, you can't be too predictable. Last year, because the running game was so efficient, you could damn near do what you want to do.

[Uncle Ocho]

Exactly.

[Co-host]

And you can throw it when you want to. You got to pick your poison on what you want to do. Now things are a little different, and now you're going to get to see the better part of the Eagles.

[Uncle Ocho]

You have to dig down, Ocho. We got to dig.

[Co-host]

Yeah. They could do one or two things. You can come together and fix it, or things are going to continue to splinter.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. We're not going to make no excuses. Oh, the Eagles beat themselves, it looked like to me. The Giants had 34 and the Eagles had 17. It didn't say Eagles one had 34 and Eagles two had 17.

[Co-host]

Right, right.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ain't no. Ain't no. Beat yourself because, see, that's the excuses you make. Last week, they had a man they should have called pass interference. That was a pass interference. You see what happens, Ocho, if you. If you lose by a little, I can go back and point the faith. Well, if he had done this, we had done that. But see, when I beat hell out you, what you gonna say? So what pass interference, that would have made up 17 points? What holding call? Man, they were. Hell, they was holding. So what holding call would have made up 17 points? What did I miss? What offside? What penalty that they didn't call that would have made up for 17 points? Po. I feel. I feel bad for my guy, Gilly.

[Co-host]

You know, I know we're going. The only reason I'm saying he gonna be all right. Only reason I'm saying the Eagles are going to be okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes.

[Co-host]

Because it's so early in the season. It's so early in the season. Now, if we. Now we were on the back of the season, I. I give you one. If it was after Thanksgiving, things were looking the way they look now, I'd be worried. I'd be worried.

[Uncle Ocho]

But let me tell you, when you show Vulnerability early, yes. Teams like they can be had. That's the thing now, because you already gonna get everybody's best shot, Ocho, because you're the reigning super bowl champs. Absolutely. You gonna get everybody's best. But now they're like, hey, they vulnerable. They can be had. The ferocity that. That. That defense is not nearly as vicious and suffocating as it was. That's a rookie. Oo. I don't give a damn who back there. That is a rookie quarterback in only his third start. And he did that. He did that. And he didn't seem bothered by what you were doing on the back end. He didn't seem flustered. He didn't seem off kilter. He didn't seem to like, man, what. What are they doing? I'm seeing ghosts out there. He didn't seem that way to me. Now, maybe somebody else saw something that I didn't see, but he looked perfectly fine to me.

[Co-host]

Hey, I tell you, I see.

[Uncle Ocho]

I can see why AJ Getting frustrated because I get tired. I get tired of running under routes, too.

[Co-host]

Yeah, I would.

[Uncle Ocho]

I get tired of running short crosses. They run, man, stop. Man, give me something down the field. I get. It'll be very interesting, Ocho, if we were to watch a cut up. We see all 22 and see how many times he run further than 10 yards down the field.

[Co-host]

Right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Because I see. I see a lot of people. I see a lot of. I see a lot of routes. Short cross, over the ball, under route, slant route, five yard out. Man, let that man run a deep over. Let the man run a comeback. Let the man run a dig. Damn.

[Co-host]

Yeah. And.

[Uncle Ocho]

And more than everybody goes, oo. Now they know he's not going deep. I'm squatting on everything, Ocho. I ain't getting on no damn backpedal. Cause he ain't run no go ball.

[Co-host]

Especially. Especially the better corners. Especially the better corners that know and understand down the distance. We understand tendencies, we understand split. We understand schemes. We understand the route concepts. Okay. Oh, he. He's. He on top of the numbers. Oh, he ain't going nowhere.

[Uncle Ocho]

You ain't run no damn. Go right from those top of the numbers.

[Co-host]

Oh, absolutely not. Are we inside the numbers?

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay. Oh, you try to run a shallow. You try to run a shallow.

[Co-host]

Either you run the shallow or you coming outside. One or the other. I could just sit like. I don't know. I think maybe. Maybe the. The casual fan doesn't understand how. How difficult the game of football is if it's not complicated. But how Easy. It is for those who. Who study the game, who watch film and are used to seeing things over and over and over.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

So now the onus is on the offensive coordinator to be a little bit more creative, to throw off those that you're playing week to week, because now there's film on you. There's a year's worth of film on you, and you got to change things up, because if you don't change things up, you get what you see tonight. You get players that are frustrated because the blueprint is out there, the ingredients are out there, and the ingredients are out there. Hey, we know what this tastes like. You got to change it up.

[Uncle Ocho]

You do, Ocho. And the thing is, just like a pass rusher, you can't give that offensive lineman the same pass rush move. He'll eat that up after a while. He'll build up an immunity to it. So you got to give him. Hey, you gotta. Sometimes you gotta turn speed to power. Sometimes you just gotta dip. Sometimes you gotta wax on, wax off. Sometimes you gotta bull. Sometimes you gotta hump. You got to change it up. The same thing with the offensive lineman. Hey, sometimes they quick set you or jumps at you. Sometimes they stab left and then they come back. Hey, sometime they. Sometimes they catch some it. You've got to change it up. These guys are good, very good. And they break everything down. They what? Watch him. Watch his feet. Watch when he does this. What you does, what he does with his hands. Now watch when. Watch when he's in this stance. Look how wide his base is. Defense off, defensive lineman, look at his stance. They pay attention. They break everything down to the umpteenth. Because the margin of error. These guys are really good. And the margin of. The margin of victory is so small, very small. It's not. I'm telling you, it's not. It's not a mountain. It is small. It's the minute. It's the. It's the details. The devil is in the details, man.

[Co-host]

It's what, one. One or three plays make the difference?

[Uncle Ocho]

That's it. That's it.

[Co-host]

That's it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Two turnovers did not help look like they were. The Eagles were going in. Gatta, Turner and Jalen threw. It was late. And inside. You, you, you, you, inside. If that DB can catch, he's going the other way with it. And then it seemed like they were driving again, and AJ Dillon got the ball punched out. That's two turnovers right there. When you look like you were about to make something positive happen and it ends up Going the other way. But the. It gonna be interesting to see how the Eagles bounce back or how they respond in general. Ocho, you do realize they didn't score a point in the second half.

[Co-host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The 17 was all from the first.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, and on the, on the tush push that first one, the great guard jumped the count again. Yeah, see he, Ocho, he almost has to jump the count because he has to keep the guy off the center because if the center gets stand up, because remember, Jalen Hurst is coming right behind him. So if he gets stood up, so the guard, one of those guards, have to knock somebody off him, let him get some push. Now we can get Jalen Hurst to get a little push so he gets some leg drive. If Jalen Hurst, if the center gets stood up, where is Jalen going?

[Co-host]

Yeah, the play doesn't work.

[Uncle Ocho]

I mean, the play doesn't work. It's gonna. Look, I'm sure Nick Sarion's like, you know, he like. Look, I know it's a tough one. It was a short week. But hey, it was a short week for the Giants. Everybody's gonna. Everybody's gonna have at least one short week. The Cowboys pro. Yeah, the Cowboys will probably have two because they got the Thanksgiving game and then they near likely plays the following Thursday after that. Right, but give the. I, I think this tonight we can talk about the Eagles till we're blue in the face, but I think tonight was more about what the Giants did positive and good as opposed to Eagles. The Eagles have their issues, but here's the thing. If I got issues and you don't take advantage of them, what good is that mistake? When you make a mistake, can I make you pay for it?

[Co-host]

Right?

[Uncle Ocho]

You leave the door open, I walk in your house, you leave something out at the table, I eat off your table. Every mistake the jets, the Eagles made, Giants made them pay for it. The question is, look, Sharioni Sirianni cut his teeth and call him plays. And I know it's a bad. Because here's the thing. Anytime you do something that's abnormal, people think you're panicking. If I take over the play calling, Ocho, what am I saying? The guy that had to play calling, he's not doing a good job, be it offensive or defensive. If I reassign people. Hey, you was in class. Ocho. Shannon, Chad, get your book. Move over here. That means you were being a disruption. You were doing something you had no business. I got that all the time. Shannon, can you move up here by me? Why? You know why. So that's the way that. That's people going to look at that from the outside and says, well, oh, okay, I thought, what? Nothing going on. If nothing's going on, why are you making these changes? Why are you making these moves? But at the end of the day, I've got to do what's in the best interest of this team. And if I have to take over the play calling, I don't want to. I don't want to take over the play calling, but I will if I have to. And the question is, do you think Cere only should or will take over the play calling?

[Co-host]

Ooh, that's tough.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's asking awful lot of a head coach. I mean, look, Shanahan does it, Andy Reid does it. There are the whole. Sean McVeigh does it. It's not a whole lot of guys. Ben Johnson does it now, but for the most part, you know, hey, I got lieutenants. I let lieutenants do their job, oversee everything. I hear everything. If there's something, hey, nah, we gonna run it on this one now. Hey, hey, you got that specialty play do that. I try to oversee everything. So what do you think? What. What do you think will happen or what do you think should happen?

[Co-host]

I think more so a conversation. I think more so a conversation is had between Petula and. And Sirianna. Sirianni, because Sirianni has enough. Enough as a head coach. Huh? He has enough. He has enough going on that he has to deal with. He has enough on his plate as is. You already have. You already have coaches appointed to certain positions, and they have their jobs. Now, if you. If you want a coach to do his job a little better or find ways to. To make things work is here now talking from an offensive perspective. You have that conversation with him and. And what needs to change and what he would like to see as a head coach. But taking over the play calls this early, it. To me, it sends him in panic mode. And I don't think that's something that they really need, is not to panic, but find a way, figure out what solutions we can take, what. What creative effort, you know, can Petullo do. And in creating a little bit of creativity offensively and moving some things around, just throwing a few wrinkles in there, not. Not going too far away from the game plan and schematically on things that do work and that you like to do, but just throwing some wrinkles in there that give you a little bit more success that aren't predictable when you're out there playing O.J.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know how coaches always ask the quarterback and the quarterback goes to the coach said, these are the plays I like?

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Go to A.J. brown. Say, A.J. what you like? What you want to run? Give me. Give me a hint. How can. How can I help you? What do you like? Yeah, ask him. I mean, Mike would ask me, hey, 84, what you. What you like here?

[Co-host]

Same. Especially in that first 15.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, you can't go wrong with basic cross. You can't go wrong with y choice. You cannot go wrong with those. You give me one of those. You give me one of those. I'm good. I'll make it work. I don't give a damn if he's playing outside leverage. I don't care if he's playing head up. I don't care if he's playing inside leverage. He cannot stop me from going where I want to go. He's gonna ask me what I like. Hey, you like the Zorro here? Yeah, I like Zaro. Yeah, I like Zarro. I like Zarro. I like it. I like it. You know, I'm really trying to get a touchdown, so I kind of like it. Oh, yo, I like it. The tea going in. I ain't really trying to get no first diet because they only gonna bite one time, Ocho.

[Co-host]

It's like a fish.

[Uncle Ocho]

You catch a fish, and you. You hook him and he get off, he ain't biting again. Not that one. Now, somebody else might get his ass another day in time, but he not gonna bite. So that's the way I look at it. Like, if I beat him on this Zorro this time and I get a first down, he ain't biting again. So I'm like. I'm like, no, I kind of like. I kind of like, like in the 10 for the Zaro route. But anything else, Mike? Hey, you do right choice. You do basic. Hey, you do a. A basic cross, anything like that. I'm good. I'm Gucci. Hey, run, tiger, far cross. Hey, any. Anything. Just go to AJ and say, AJ what you like. Tell me, tell me, tell me. What if I said, aj, give me your five favorite routes that you like to run.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And let me see how I can incorporate it in what we're doing. Because all they do, ojo, is that you got your plays and you watch the film and you see what the other teams did to their ass last week, and then you put that in and call it your stuff.

[Co-host]

Bingo. Is it. It's a copycat.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's all you do.

[Co-host]

There's a copycat league, and they do it every week. Whatever they saw, whatever they saw that worked on film, and you happen to be playing that team, they gonna do the exact same thing. Formation might be a little different.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Co-host]

What will be exactly the same.

[Uncle Ocho]

You think AJ asked for a trade?

[Co-host]

No.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hell.

[Co-host]

Oh, shoot. You know what? I'm not an aj. Shoes. I'm not, I'm not in the shoes. I don't know. I, I, I'm not sure. And, and being, being how he is, his mannerisms, his beliefs and, and the way he moves and things much, much more completely different than that of what they think he is.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

I'm not sure he's the type to, to ask for a trade, but, but he's frustrated. Devonte Smith is frustrated. They both voiced their frustrations. I think it was maybe last week, a week before last, publicly, so I'm not sure.

[Uncle Ocho]

I think.

[Co-host]

Why are you laughing?

[Uncle Ocho]

Because, Because I understand. I, I really do. I really do. Because I don't want people to think I understand AJ's situation. AJ say they don't pay me to win. They pay me for stats. The only problem that I have, stats get me paid. Not wins. Not wins.

[Co-host]

I told. Yeah, remember I said that? I said that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, the only problem is that aj, keep that with Sirianni, keep that with Petula, keep that with what you call them. I say, because when you voice it outside, people will look at you as being selfish and say you care about your stats than you do about winning, even though that's how you gonna get paid. I get it. Yeah, but you're not gonna be able to elicit sympathy from that fan base because we winning. Ocho, just like Ocho. You winning. You like, man, but y' all don't want seven games in a row. How you go, how you go publicly and talk about, man, I need to get the ball right. Right. People gonna look at you as being selfish. Although I understand what it's based on. I just wish, like I said, I wish because like a family, football team is a family. I guarantee you spend more time with the, with the football team than you do your real family.

[Co-host]

Especially during this time.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes. Basically from July, when you go to training camp until your season ends, you spend more time with them. You do, you do. And you do everything you can to keep everything in house.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

When it gets out. When it gets out. Now, everybody has their own interpretation to what's going on.

[Co-host]

Exactly.

[Uncle Ocho]

When you keep it in house, don't nobody, don't nobody know, you know what the Actual what's actually being said, you know, what and how to fix it. But then once it gets out.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, like I said, that meeting, I'm trying to figure out who. How many people knew about that meeting.

[Co-host]

Ocho, Somebody probably upstairs. I guarantee you that somebody knows. He's some reporter, you know, a player talking to a reporter that they probably confided in and thought it wouldn't get out or they wouldn't tell anybody. And all of a sudden, the rest of the world knows.

[Uncle Ocho]

Everything's getting out now. Uk, hey, trust nothing. Trust absolutely nothing. But now what I knew to be true all along. Kellen Moore is a damn good offensive coordinator. Absolutely a damn good one. He was good at Dallas. He was really good at Dallas. He was great. He won a Super bowl with the Eagles. Normally it's a little low. Normally. Detroit don't seem to be having that problem that Ben Johnson left. They don't seem to have that problem that AG left. On the defensive side of the football. Detroit is playing extremely well.

[Co-host]

Remember what I said? Huh? Remember what I said when Ben Johnson left? Yes. When Aaron Glenn left, I said, unc, even though the coaches left, the pieces of that puzzle are still there. So you take coaches out and the pieces of the puzzle still there, you can still put it together, Right? You still put together because you still got the same pieces. So it doesn't matter who called the play. That's why sometimes when I hear coaches, when I hear fans say, oh, they want to. They want coaches fired when things aren't going well. Well, hell. Well, hey, if he had the goddamn players to execute, it wouldn't be no damn problem. Well, Bill Belichick was great at New England because he had the pieces, including Tom, and now they want him. You know, I heard he might get fired sometime this week in North Carolina. Hit Bill. Well, what the hell you want to do?

[Uncle Ocho]

What you want me to do? Well, people look at it, if you don't got Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, and Larry Fitzgerald, you don't have good receivers. But lad, Fitzgerald and Jerry Rice and Randy Moss ain't. I mean, it takes a special type of person to fit that system. And Randy fit the system for a couple of years, and then all of a sudden he wanted more. And Bill said, no, everybody's not going to be able to go. Ocho weeks. I count two passes this week. I caught four passes. Last week. I caught this. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Those guys are number one receivers for a reason.

[Co-host]

Reason. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

New England built their game of plan to win Other teams build a game plan around great players.

[Co-host]

Right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Right. That's the difference. So it's going to be very, very interesting to see how this thing plays up, I think getting away. Hey, Siriannis, look, I don't want to see you guys till Monday. I see you guys Monday. Don't worry about this tape. I'll see you guys Monday. Come in and we'll have a quick meeting. Get a lift in, get a run in, run some of this out. I'll see you guys Monday. Got Tuesday off. Let's be ready to come back to work Wednesday and fix whatever. Whatever we got going on. It's good to clear our heads, get an opportunity to get away from this. Hey, you don't need to watch television. You don't need to read the paper. Get. Stay off the Internet and be ready when we come back in here on Wednesday. Yeah, let's be ready to work and get this thing done.

[Co-host]

Get it right. They're gonna have. They're gonna have to fix it. And don't let anything else come out the locker room. Don't say nothing crazy after the media. I'm not sure who might have talked to the media after the game. I hope they took time to allow themselves to defuse from whatever anger, whatever emotions you may be having. Take a shower first. Take a shower first. Cool off, then talk to the media. Don't give them no ammunition.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know what I'm surprised of, Ocho? I'm surprised how many people, when they go to the locker room, the first thing they do is check their phone.

[Co-host]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Okay. Because I'm one of them.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm shocked by that.

[Co-host]

Yeah, I'm one of them.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yep. See you. You played in that air. You played in the era that they did have social media. So I'm glad I didn't. I didn't. I didn't play in that era. I'm glad.

[Co-host]

Yeah. It just started. It just started. So I caught social media, the guy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Do they. You think they check their phone at halftime, too?

[Co-host]

No, I don't know about it. I don't know about that one. I don't know about that one. Yeah, my last year, I checked.

[Garrett Wilson (interviewee)]

Right.

[Co-host]

Okay. I'm out here cutting the food. Let me see what they see, what they talking about?

[Uncle Ocho]

What are they talking about on ig? Okay. What do you think about the tush push four times? Michael Parsons says, this is not football with two trash emojis.

[Co-host]

Hey, if you can't stop it, don't knock it. If you can't stop it, if the packers were able to do it, that wouldn't be a problem. So. So, I mean, tush push is not football. So let's talk about some of the plays that other teams run that nobody can stop that aren't highlighted.

[Uncle Ocho]

True.

[Co-host]

We're gonna start eliminating plays from certain teams that do one thing specifically.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, just because somebody can do something better than anybody can do one thing.

[Co-host]

Yeah. Hey. Find a way to stop it. I know how to stop it. I can't. I can't give the formula on how to stop it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. You know, my brothers tell us all the time. He says, my. My goal was to do my job, do this one thing better than anybody else did anything. I'm fine.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

It seems to me that the tush push, the Eagles do this better than any other football team does anything else.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Whether it's rush to quarterback, whether it's throw the ball, whether it's run the ball, whatever the case is, the Eagles do the Tush push better than any other football team do any other thing. So I agree with you. Is it. Is it aesthetically pleasing? No.

[Co-host]

No. But it was.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't believe you should throw it out just because somebody can't stop it.

[Co-host]

Right.

[Uncle Ocho]

So if Michael. Michael. Micah says it's trash. He got the. The two trash can with the. The guy dumping the trash in there. What you think, Ocho?

[Co-host]

Nah. Micah. And being the competitor he is, it shouldn't matter where anybody else run. Well, you want. You one of the best in the league. You top three in the league. It shouldn't matter. You got to stop it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Tampa is getting. What you call them, getting Big dads ready. They dead.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Don't let them move you at all.