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NMLS 910457 hello, it's your favorite sports unc here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you, so please subscribe or you're going to make Ocho cry. Ocho the cold beat the Chargers. Hey coach. Indiana Jones ball.
Unc
You see what happened when you got a quarterback? Matter of fact, it's not only not only having a quarterback, you're having a quarterback that's in the right situation, that has the right complimentary pieces around him. This is what you get. It wasn't. It wasn't nothing wrong with Daniel Jones. Maybe the Giants just wasn't a good fit for him. You know who is a good fit for the Giants? Goddamn Jackson dart. But Daniel Jones is in a good place where they want him. Now I understand why they give him that 1 year 14 million. That 1 year 14 million. Now it's going to turn us about.
Ocho
To turn into 50. Man, who you telling about to turn it. It's about to turn into five for a quarter. For a quarter of a billion.
Unc
Because he's playing.
Ocho
Really 38 to 24 Ocho. Indiana Jones 24. 23 or 34. 288. Two touchdowns. Jonathan Taylor 16 for 94, three touchdown. They had 23 rush attempts, 120 yards, three touchdowns. Indiana Jones tacked on another two touchdown passing. And they were clean. No turn. No turnovers, no interceptions, no fumbles. Justin Herbert 30, 37 of 55, 423 touchdowns, two picks.
Unc
That, that, that, that also was a difference. Turn turning that ball over was a difference.
Ocho
Yep.
Unc
Got him.
Ocho
Buck got in twice. Hey, Latu got him once. So they had three sacks. They were playing. They were playing uphill all day. I didn't know Gaston had A son, Aranda Gasson. Yeah, that's his son, right? It is, I know. Isn't that a play with the Dolphins?
Unc
Yeah. The receiver, Ronda Gaston, I think Gaston was the biggest.
Ocho
Kenan Allen had 11 for a buck 19. Arondae Gasson has seven for a buck. 60, 64 and a touchdown. Lad McConkey had nine for 67. Ocho Ladd McConkey had 15 targets. Kenan Allen had 14 targets. Gatson had nine targets. Quentin Johnson had six targets. Hey, is that his dad? It is, yeah. Now, his dad wasn't fast, but if you throw it anywhere in the stadium every time, man, that joker had the biggest hand. That joker had the biggest hands. He had a catcher.
Unc
Hey, who played on the side, ronde, that wasn't McDuffie, was it?
Ocho
Yep, yep.
Unc
Goddamn, McDuffie. I wonder if that was the same time when your teal green was there. You remember Yatio Green?
Ocho
I do. I'm trying to think, was Tony Martin there? Pretty Tony, you remember back in Miami? Cause Tony. I'm trying to think. Yeah, Tony was there in the night. Yeah, Tony was there with Tony Martin. Randall.
Unc
Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Ocho
They're all around the same time. Ingram. Nah. What was the one that. From Penn State. What's the one that ended up having a turkey?
Unc
OJ McDuffie.
Ocho
OJ McDuffie. Yep, yep. Ocho, the Chargers.
Unc
Man.
Ocho
Indiana. The Colts are for real, Ocho. The Colts are for real.
Unc
Yeah. Listen, I would say if it's maybe, maybe two games or three games, but this is every week with them. This is every week with them. Even. Even. I think they. Wait, they've lost one game. Yeah.
Ocho
And that's because what you call them, you know, they remember they fumbled the ball out of the end zone.
Unc
Yeah. The receiver. It was downs. Downs from the ball going into the end zone.
Ocho
Yep. And I don't know if you noticed this, Ocho, he ain't been back on the field.
Unc
They're not using him much.
Ocho
Nope. Pierce had five catches for 98 yards. Warren, the tight end had four for 69, a touchdown. Pittman Jr. Seven for 58 and a touchdown. Jonathan Taylor had three for 38. Mitchell, Mo, Ali Cox. No, but nope, nope, but they look good. Oo they got. They had 23. The score was 23, three at the half. They scored 15 in the third. And they putting points on the board, man. Cuz they look. And we said this. Oo, they got pieces. You got Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor is the top five back.
Unc
You know what? Honestly and that's why the offense is also working as well, because there's balance. They're not just. They not just throwing the ball all willy nilly, but it makes it easy to throw the ball because of what Jonathan Taylor is also doing out the backfield. Hey, okay, you know, you know what I just thought about? That was A.D. mitchell who messed up that. Who dropped that ball, too?
Ocho
Yeah, Mitchell.
Unc
Yeah.
Ocho
Yeah. He had one catch for. Yeah, he. Well, last week, I don't think he played, but he had one catch today for one catch. One catch for 8 yards. But when you have Jonathan Taylor, when you can run the ball like they can, and you look at the weapons that they have, and we said. I said, don't y'. All. If they get a decent quarterback, they got enough offensive firepower, they could be good. And when they brought. I said, he gonna be. I said, Daniel Jones gonna be the starter. The mere fact that you can't bring somebody in, pay him more than the starter and don't expect him to be the starter. They didn't put that in incentives. Ocho, that's his base contract is 14 million. Now, he might have an additional 3, 4, 5 million in incentives, but they didn't incentivize this contract. They said, we gonna give you one year. 14 million. He's about to parlay this into probably a quarter of a billion dollar deal.
Unc
It also makes me think. It also makes me think, as talented as Anthony Richardson is, why couldn't he get this done with the same pieces that Daniel Jones.
Ocho
But hold on, you ain't talking about Anthony Richardson said that the NFL is easier than college, right? Yeah, not him.
Unc
Yes, sir, that one.
Ocho
That one. You see now you know why. You see Chad. Oh, man, it's easy to him. This is why you keep your mouth closed. If you're a quarterback, it's so easy. You started. You kept your job in college in. Even when you was playing bad. Who said NFL is easier than college? Who thinks that? Yeah, it might. You know what? Oo. You ain't got study hall. You don't have all this stuff. You have to be able to manage your time in the NFL. Cause you grown. Yeah. Ain't nobody come wake your ass up to break. Hey, man, we got to go to study hall. Man, we got to go. Don't nobody do that. You got to be an adult to play in the NFL. So from that aspect of it. But he made it seem like, oh, man, this here NFL a piece of what?
Unc
Yeah, it's very.
Ocho
I said, damn, the NFL. Hey, it Must be a different NFL than what we played in. Because it wasn't easy.
Unc
Not at all. I know one thing, I'm not sure when the last time you've been to a game. Hey, Chad, I'm sure y' all been to football games and you sat in the stands. You watched it. Hey, Unk, when I went to the Bangor game Thursday, the game looked so easy from sitting up there to the left. Wait, look, it's wide open. It's right there. Just throw it in.
Ocho
It look easy when you up there them stairs.
Unc
So easy. And I'm just thinking about. I understand how difficult the game is when you actually in the line of fire as opposed to look smooth stands. Now I see why fans talk to trash that they do. Oh, this is why y' all say all that stuff. Y' all be looks.
Ocho
I said, oo, I can see stuff in real time. I told Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz, why did you take the flat route? The flat was open. Right now he got a first down. You, you ground the ball, you shoved the ball in the ground. They throwing intentional grounding. I'm like, bro, I saw it in real time. And then I, I. And then I'll see the replay. They replayed it and talk about this. Where he should have went. Yeah, I fought in real time. Like, damn, Ocho, what's going on with the Chargers?
Unc
You know what? I'm not sure. I'm not sure because some weeks they look very good.
Ocho
Is this the first 400 yard game this season, Herbert? Is this the first 400 yard game, passing game this season?
Unc
I, you know, you heard me. I don't think there's really nothing wrong with the charges. I don't think there's nothing wrong with him. I don't. I still think they're going to, to compete and, and be right at the top of that division when it's all said and done.
Ocho
This is the first 400 yard passing game this season in NFL who has to throw up for 400. But look, Ocho, we can go back and forth. He should have stayed in college. Ocho, I'm not staying in college when I can come out and get 35 million. I'm sorry, I'm not. Hold on, hold on.
Unc
How about.
Ocho
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. Hold on. I'm not Ojo.
Unc
Why leave college early? Right for 35 million where you can stay another year and develop a little bit better so you're that much better prepared for the NFL knowing.
Ocho
Guess what? I get Ocho, I get to that Three year quicker.
Unc
What? Okay, now you get to that three year quicker. Now what? Now look what happened. Hey, not look at me.
Ocho
Ocho. Here's Ocho. It's simple. You go back and look at him in college he was a barely 50% completion guy. You go look at him in high school, he was barely a 50% guy. In the NFL he's 50%. He is what he is. He hasn't gotten any better. But you in awe of the, just the physical, you know, the talented, you know, the big discussion. Tom Brady wasn't talented, Peyton Manning wasn't talented because they had things that you couldn't, you couldn't measure. You couldn't measure their speed. You couldn't measure the day ain't got no jumping at. What'd he do? He ran 4, 440 inch vertical shortcut. He had everything. He could throw the ball 75 yards.
Unc
Yeah. Damn.
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Ocho
Joe Flacco with 31 affordees seven 342, three touchdowns, no sacks. They ran the ball 23 times for a buck 42. Jamar Chase 16 catches, a buck 61 in the touchdown. Higgins six for 96 and a touchdown. Noah Fant had four for 44 and a touchdown. There wasn't a whole lot of defense being played, but Here we go. Oo the Bengals beat the Steelers and 33, 31 and what many call the icy hot bowl. This was not the Unbowl, this was the uncles Uncles. No, no, no, no, they can't, they ain't no they uncles. So oh you're watching this game. I mean look, Steelers jumped out to a 10 nothing lead. Like damn Bengals. And then all of a sudden starting the fourth quarter, the Bengals have a 10, have a 10 point, had a, have a 10 point lead and then the Bengals have a 10 point lead to start the fourth quarter. And the next thing you know, the Steelers go down the field, Rogers hit Frymuth, he takes off and, and they have a one point lead. But if you're a Steelers fan, based on what you had seen up until that point, you could not have felt comfortable with the way your defense was playing. Every defensive back from The Steelers. Chase gave it to everybody. He gave it to Rams in the first half. He said, you know what? I think Slay and Port are feeling left out. I'm gonna make sure y' all ass get it the second half. So. So don't nobody feel like, oh, he was picking on. Pick on somebody your size. I picked on everybody and gave it to everybody. And Tegan said, hold on. Did they forget about me? Hey, give me that shot down. Give me that rail shot. Let me end this thing. And he did something smart. He said, nah, I could score, I could split it. But now let me go on down. Cause I don't want y' all to get a chance to do nothing crazy. Cause I know Aaron Rodgers, known to throw a hair or Mary here or there. But you won't get a chance to ojo watching this game. What did you like about what you saw from your Bengals tonight?
Unc
Well, first off, we know what Flacco did. We know what Chase did. We know what Tegan did. But I want to give credit to the offensive line. I want to give credit to the offensive line. I want to give credit to Zach Taylor not worrying about all the noise on the outside. Oh, he needs to be fired. Oh, it's the play calling. It wasn't none of that. That was never the problem. Winning games like this against a division opponent, it starts up front. The offensive line played extremely well tonight. They kept Flacco clean for most of the game. Obviously, T.J. watt and Hayward got a sack towards the end. I don't want to call it garbage time because it was very important that were able to get down the field. But outside of that, they kept Flacco clean all goddamn day. That got damn third down and they ran the goddamn read option with Joe Flacco.
Ocho
Didn't. Never expected it.
Unc
Read option with Joe Flacco. Who does that with a quarterback that's not a dual threat? Beautiful play call.
Ocho
That's why it worked, because you're not expecting it at all, at all.
Unc
Beautiful play. Goal. Obviously, the Steelers, they didn't really, really play good defense. They had some. Some blown assignments on defense. Allowed Chase. Chase to get off on that shallow.
Ocho
Cross late in the ball. Ocho. Yeah. That man got 15 catches. How the hell you let him get free for 16 on the shallow cross? And ain't nobody guarding it.
Unc
Listen, there was confusion. There was a confusion at the second level. Once the motion went. Once the motion went. Patrick Queen, they was confused on who was. Who was supposed to pick up who. And obviously Chase. Chase freed up well, I'm picking up.
Ocho
I'm picking up Chase. If somebody else get the ball, I'm good with that. I can live with that. Ocho, I'm picking up Chase, man. That ain't your guy. Don't worry about it. He got 15 catches. I'm just trying to make sure you don't get 16.
Unc
But listen, man, it's amazing, right? It's amazing what happens when you get a quarterback with a veteran. Veteran presence that's used to willing dealing, and you put him in a situation. You put him in an atmosphere with two elite receivers like that. A good quarterback, a good number three, a nice tight end. You saw Noah fan, got integrated into the offense a little bit more tonight. Yeah, it looked great. It looked great. This is one of the best games. And it got so good to the point I didn't even care who won the game I didn't even care who won the game because it was so exciting. On both sides of the. On both sides of the ball, you know, not really much defense, but Aaron Rodgers was dealing.
Ocho
He was.
Unc
Joe Flacco was dealing.
Ocho
One bad play. He had one bad play. The DB made an excellent play on. On DK Metcalf to pull that ball out.
Unc
Yeah, the interception.
Ocho
That's not on Rogers.
Unc
Oh, yeah, it definitely wasn't. That was good. Hey, TJ Turn. Hey, DJ Turner.
Ocho
Yeah.
Unc
He's quarterback number one. He's quarterback number one. I don't know what happened. I don't know why. Cam Taylor, Britt with a healthy scratch tonight. I wasn't sure, but after watching tonight, how they played, the DBs played, especially DJ Turner. Boy, I salute you. Boy, I salute you because you showed, Joe, you know what? Tonight, boy. But that goddamn offensive line, that offensive line needs all the credit for the night. Cause we already know what Chase could do. We already know what T. Higgin could do. We know what Chase Brown could do. We were able to establish the run before tonight's game. Chase Brown was averaging two yards of carry.
Ocho
Huh? Two.
Unc
Two yards of carry. He finished, what, 106. I think maybe he had 100 something.
Ocho
108 on 11 carries.
Unc
Man, that's beautiful. Anytime you can run the ball like that, it makes everything else you want to do easy. It opens up the playbook, man. It was a beautiful thing. And the fact that we as a team, now, we can compete. Why can we compete? Because we got a quarterback. A quarterback that's only been here for 24 hours. He's been here for 24 hours, and I heard some. Some of some of the stuff they gave. They gave me. He had 30 plays. They gave him 30 plays last week. That's all he had on his plate, was 30 plays. And obviously, playing in the Green Bay game, it's only so much you could do. But he looked good in that second half. When I saw that. When I saw that drive in the second half, I'm like, wait a minute. I think we gonna be all right. And tonight, I surely they added more to his plate. And this is what you get. This is what you get. So next week, I'm not sure who we playing. We gonna look even better offensively. Defense, just meet us halfway. Meet us halfway. And by the time December gets here, showing that we can compete regardless of who we playing, because the offense is now back, because we have a competent quarterback that can make all the throws, we gonna be all right.
Ocho
You got the Jets.
Unc
I'm happy.
Ocho
Ocho. Now you understand why Tomlin made those comments.
Unc
Oh. Oh.
Ocho
Now you understand. He said you have a quarterback that was good enough to be your opening day starter.
Unc
Yes.
Ocho
You trade into a team that needs a quarterback.
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Ocho
Either Andrew Barry is smarter than either of us.
Unc
Yeah, yeah, Most definitely. Most definitely. And then the funny thing about it is, Tom understood, is you take a quarterback like Joe Flacco, that's been in different situations, different offenses, and you put him in an offense with that kind of talent.
Ocho
Yep.
Unc
With the kind of talent that can raise your level of play. Flacco ain't got to do much. He's not on a team where he has to raise his level of play because the lack of talent around him. It's the opposite way.
Ocho
When you come here, they're gonna lift him.
Unc
Opposite way.
Ocho
Oo. The thing is, you say he gave him 30 plays. He don't need but two plays. If Chase is one on one, throw it to him. If they got Chase, double throw it to T. Higgins. It's not really that complicated. And he dropped. He dropped one. He had a shallow cross against Queen. And you see face. Oh, my God. That was the easiest pass you. The play that you made tonight, and you dropped that one. So he probably should have had 17 to 18. Yeah. I'm gonna start calling Chase Mr. Thursday night, because we know what he does on Thursday night. You know, last year he had 11 for 264.
Unc
11 for 264.
Ocho
Three touchdowns, three TDs.
Unc
A matter of fact, in the first half, this. I know. And we talked about it too. Where I talked about how Carson and I had that, that. That sense of if we see a certain play, he. He had check it and change it. Man. Watch Flacco when goddamn Chase did that in the first half.
Ocho
Yeah.
Unc
Flacco saw the coverage. He tapped his. He tapped his helmet, checked out of the run, and they must have knew what it was. He threw it right to Chase. Threw it right to him. I said, no, we gonna be all right. I have one thing I want to say, too, also.
Ocho
What's that?
Unc
For all the Bengals fans that are probably watching tonight in the chat, this is why. This is why, despite some of the things you were saying, is it's not about Zach Taylor. It's not about the play calling. It's all about those that are on the field executing the plays that are called. And when you have a quarterback, this is why they're paid the big bucks. When you have a quarterback, anything is possible. Anything is possible. I know one thing. They better not let Flaco out that goddamn room. I don't care. Even when Joe Burrow come back, do not let number 16 get out that goddamn room. That is our backup from now on.
Ocho
Oh, yeah, for sure. For sure. That's why they went and got him. They got a guy have a big time arm, he can throw. He can make throws. He understands. Look, he doesn't have mobility, so you got to protect him. You got to do a better job of protecting because he has limited mobility now, especially from the pocket. Now, you saw him run that. That naked on the zone. Read the naked. I'm not. Hey, ain't nobody. I mean, hot. Smith crashed down because I'm not anticipating him pulling the ball. That's Joe.
Unc
Absolutely not. Absolutely.
Ocho
Yeah. Fields or Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen. Yeah, I'm. I'm going be Justin Herbert. Yeah, I'll be a little nervous. Joe Flo. Yeah. Hell, no. They ain't gonna never. Damn, they did it. Steelers dbs. Just go ahead and chalk this up. Don't watch it. Don't. Don't watch it. Don't worry about it. Don't even worry about it. Cause he gave it to everybody. Yeah, everybody. And it wasn't close. It wasn't like there was some. Some. Some throws like that. He threaded the needle and you guys were right there. Y' all wasn't close. Nah, y' all wasn't close. And just go ahead and chalk this one up. Hey, hey, it happens. But for him, for. For. For Chase, for them. I've never seen somebody hunt the number one DB like they hunted tonight.
Unc
Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely.
Ocho
I don't get you're not even with. Even with Satan or the top corners. You're not supposed to hunt like that.
Unc
Yeah, well, actually, I wouldn't even call it hunting. I would say most of the time, during our time, during our time when you had a great db, most of the time, the quarterback, for some reason, they would never go his way.
Ocho
No. Hell no. You ain't taking that chance.
Unc
You don't even challenge them.
Ocho
No.
Unc
For some reason, and I'm telling you based on experience, is when we're playing against top corners, you know, the offense, it goes away from that individual and it almost. It almost make you upset. It almost make you upset. But tonight, boy, Flaco didn't care.
Ocho
He didn't care. He did not care. He did not care. I mean, he gave it to. Look, Ram had a. Had an off night.
Unc
Yeah.
Ocho
Slay. They put slay on him. Slay. They slay. You take him in the second half. Slay couldn't do anything with him. Junior Joy Porter junior You have to learn how to play better without his hands. Yeah, he too touchy feeling. He get a lot. He get a lot of PIs. Yeah, he gonna get a lot of PIs. And you're gonna have to learn to do a better job. Locate the ball, let the guy go. He got two PIs. He got one on T. Higgins, he got one on Chase. Yeah, and he's looking like, man, what, bro, you can't tug the guy's jersey because the back judge is standing right there. He can see it. And you doing it in the middle of the field.
Unc
Yeah, you can see all of that. As a defensive back, obviously, you know, playing against the T. Higgins, playing against the Jamar, Chase, some of the stuff that you're able to get away with because of your skill set with, with lesser caliber receivers, it'll work. But when you play against your elite receivers, your whole game plan have to change your whole game plan in the way you. The way you play them. It has to change. It just has to.
Ocho
The thing is, Ocho, like when you play a great receiver, what you normally would get away with with a lesser receiver, like not holding that clutching and grabbing, they're going to call it every time because normally Chase is probably already going to the officials now. You know, they can't guard me one on one, right? So they're going to play a little extra attention. He's. He's so good in space. You can put him outside the numbers, you can put him in the slot, you can put him in motion. He's tremendous. Run after the Catch. He's not that big, but he's. He, he, he, he runs behind his pad. So when you run behind your pads, you've got to tackle him. He's not gonna go down with arm tackles or he's not afraid of contact, so he'll run through contact. He reminds he runs a lot because he's his style. His side that he's not as big as my brother, but he runs like my brother. He runs like Anquan Bowden. He runs like Tio. Now they were bigger receivers to is a much bigger receiver. But if you see how they run, they run like when they get the ball, Ocho. It's almost like they're running back.
Unc
Matter of fact, you know what? You know who's a great comparison of Jamar Chase when he has a ball in his hands as far as running behind his pass? That damn Steve Smith who refused to go down. Yeah, the exact same way. Exact same. They're very strong. And because he has that, that running back pedigree that he played when he was younger. Yeah, he's so good with run out the catch. Same with Steve Smith. They, they played, they played angry with the ball. They ran angry with the ball. And that was a hell of a game tonight. That was a hell of a game.
Ocho
It was a great game. Really good game. Both teams have to look the defenses. Neither defense came to play. Outside of that outside Ocho, outside of that one sack, I didn't know. I thought T.J. watt was hurt.
Unc
Yeah. Oh, we obviously he had. Listen, Mim did a hell of a job and he had helped Noah Fan with the chips, Chase Brown with some of the chips. No, before they went out free, they went out in, in, in. In the past coverage. So they did help him a little bit. But in that fourth quarter where T.J. watt and Hayward were able to get that sack on Flacco, it was one on one. It was one on one. So that, that's why he did. He had, he had help. But outside of that, they kept Flacco clean all goddamn game, man.
Ocho
And. But you allowed to make other plays other than sacks. He had one. He had, he had a tackle.
Unc
Yeah.
Ocho
His imprint has got to be on his game. You know, if you first of all, a non mobile quarterback, if you don't disrupt this time and he'll pick you apart. That's the same thing will happen with Cousins. If you don't grow, if you don't put pressure on Cousins, what will happen? We've seen him throw for 400. We've seen him throw for 500 yards if you do. If you don't disrupt a mobile, a statue. A prototypical drop back quarterback. And that's what Flacco is. He's a prototypical 80s, 70s, old school drop back quarterback. Ocho. Yeah, he wants to drop back. He wants his. When his back foot hit, he's gonna let it go. He wants to let it go. He's not a guy that wants to try to buy time and wait for guys to get open. That's not what he's good at. Right. He's a guy. 1, 2, 3. Ball's gone. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Ball's gone. Now most guys don't do a seven step drop because most guys are in the shotgun. So they'll take a, they'll take a three and a hitch and throw the ball or four or five and a hitch and throw the ball.
Unc
But.
Ocho
I'm not surprised that Cincinnati's defense played like this because I don't think Cincinnati's defense is very good, especially since their best pass rusher, Hendrickson was out tonight. OJ that being said, Steelers, I thought the Steelers were better than this. I think they have the second most sacks coming into the game. I think they were 10 behind the Broncos. The Broncos had 30. I think the Steelers had 20. Yeah, they got two sacks. And outside of those sacks, Flacco really didn't get pressure. If you don't get pressure on a drop back quarterback with those weapons at his, disposable at his disposal. Yeah. What do you think is going to happen? I just, I just want to know. What do you think is going to happen? Yeah, you got the best receiver in the game and you got a guy that if you don't disrupt him, he can pick you apart. Well, that's what happened. And then to exacerbate it, Ocho, you couldn't stop the run, so now you're at their mercy. You can't stop the run. They run it at will. I mean, Jaylen Warren had what Jaylen Warren had. Excuse me, Chris Brown, 11 carries for a buck weight. P. Ryan had seven for 31. What if you can't stop it? And Flacco had 31 of 47, 342, three tubs, no turnovers. That was the difference in the ball game. I thought the Steelers. Look, I thought the Steelers would maybe going to give a death blow. They had it 4th and 1oo. They jumped outside trying to do the tush push. They got the. Hey, it's funny how y' all see the Steelers Move. But y' all never see the damn Eagles move. Set a four field goal, next thing you know, they come down the field, they get a touchdown, and now they've gotten life. Oo you look at. Oo. What did you make of Aaron Rodgers going off on Jaylen Warren, who ran a flea flicker by accident? Lip readers think Aaron Rogers shouted at him. What are you doing? It wasn't a flea flicker.
Unc
Yeah, hey, he has to do that. He has to hold the players accountable. What, you lost your ear thing?
Ocho
Yeah.
Unc
I say, listen, Aaron has to hold the players accountable. Aaron Rodgers understands that every play counts. He has a standard that he has to abide by. He understands everything has to be right. Because we're in a close game. We need every play. Every play has to count. You can't make that mistake. You can't. You can't. And I'm not saying that that mistake cost him the game, but that's the play that they would have needed.
Ocho
I said Chris Brown. I meant Chase Brown.
Unc
Chase Brown.
Ocho
Ocho. Here's the thing, Ocho. When you're in a game like this, every play matters because, okay, our defense is not customary tonight, right? They're not getting off the field. They're not getting three and outs. They're driving the ball. They're getting points on these possessions. So every play becomes magnified, and so you can't have mishap like that. I'm trying to figure out what made him think it was a flea flicker. Now, I don't. That's. That's seemingly what it. That's what, you know, Lip readers think he was uttering. But I'm like, of all the things you could run. I've heard people, okay, I run the wrong route. Oo. I ran. I went the wrong way, right? But damn, a flea flicker with no flea flicker was called.
Unc
And listen, little. Little miscommunication. It happens the same way on defense. Both teams had busts in the defensive coverages. The Bengals had one. Hell, the Steelers had one. And just listen. Those plays make a difference. And it's only one, two, maybe three plays in an entire game that changed the trajectory of the play. And the team that makes the fewest mistakes normally wins. And it just happened to be us tonight.
Ocho
True.
Unc
Who they. Who they think they're gonna be?
Ocho
You got. Like I said, offensively, you guys are going to be able to put pressure on people. If you jump out to a lead now, you can play. Like I said, I don't think your back end is very good. Ocho. Whoa. They Made some big time plays. They made plays tonight. Yeah, the guy made a heck of a play. The one he took out of DK hands.
Unc
Yeah. D. His name is DJ Turner. Say it. Say it with me. DJ Turner.
Ocho
DJ Turner.
Unc
Yeah. Yeah.
Ocho
That being said, if you go look at the first interception, it was like. I don't know if Roger was trying to throw the 7 route and he overshot the 7 route or he missed the DK on the go route. Yeah. Cause it was, like, in between, you know what I'm saying? Like, the 7 ran the angle and DK, but the ball was inside.
Unc
Yeah.
Ocho
So I don't. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe the ball got away from Aaron, but this was like offensive. If you like offensive football. Locho. This was your game tonight.
Unc
Beautiful game tonight.
Ocho
This was your game tonight. Oh. Oh. We gotta get to this game. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Everybody know what happened. Everybody know what happened.
Unc
So what game you talking about? You pretty excited. What game you talking about?
Ocho
Don't worry about it. You gonna find out in just a second. The what? Ocho, why you tweeting me, man? You ain't never tweeted me before, but all of a sudden, today. All of a sudden, today you want to tweet. I ain't heard from you most of the time.
Unc
Most of the time, you tweeting during the game. You tweeting during the game. You know, about, you know, certain players the high team is doing. And it just. It just dawned on me. Somebody tweeted me and said, well, go check on.
Ocho
On.
Unc
Let's do a welding check to make sure he's okay because he hadn't tweeted about the Broncos all day. That's when I tweeted you. That's when I tweeted you. I just wanted to make sure you was good.
Ocho
Okay?
Unc
You was my.
Ocho
The Broncos scored 33 in the fourth quarter. How about this for ironic? Excuse me. How about this for ironic.
Unc
Wait, before you say that. You're not a conspiracy theorist, are you? Okay, you are, but go ahead. All right.
Ocho
Demaryius Thomas went into the ring of honor today. Demaryius Thomas passed. He was 33 years of age. How many points did they score in the fourth quarter?
Unc
33. That ain't. Hey, listen, that ain't number. God. For those that. For those that are conspiracy theorists, I. I buy that one. I buy that one. I buy that one.
Ocho
The Broncos scored 33 points in the fourth quarter to come back and beat the Giants. 33. 32. Three lead changes in the final two minutes prior to today, teams had lost 1600 in two games. Consecutive games. When trailing by at least 18 points with six minutes to play, the Broncos 33 fourth quarter points were the most points in the fourth quarter by any team that had been shut out the first three quarters in NFL history. We did that y' all did. We did that y' all did. Ocho. Before we get into discuss this game, cameras caught a very ticked off Brian Burns leaving the field. Let's try to listen to what he had to say. I guess we're not gonna be able to try to hear what he had.
Unc
I know I'm not. I know I'm not deaf, but I sure don't hear nothing. I can see. I can see his mouth moving though.
Ocho
Yeah, we can. We're not. We would. We didn't get the audio. So. Bo Nicks was 27, 50, 279, two touchdown. The Broncos ran the ball 24 times for a buck 42. Cortland Sutton, big, big game. Six catches, 87 yards. Marvin Mills Jr. Six catches, 85 yards. Evan Ingram. Everybody was big. That final drive, it was huge. And the Broncos pull out. Jackson dark. I was like, bro, are you. Look, man, I just knew it was over, Ocho. Cause when he threw the pass across the middle, the Broncos guys break it up. And here come 84 from the Giants. Get the ball and turn up the sideline and go 41 yard. I said, you know what? It ain't for us today. It ain't for us. It ain't for us. But you know what? That's one thing about Mile High. They got ghost in Mile High.
Unc
They got ghosts in miles.
Ocho
And if you a Bronco fan, if you've witnessed games, you've seen the Broncos dig themselves out. Whether it was John Elway, whether it was Craig Morton, whether it was Peyton Manning, hey, Tim Tebow, you've seen some unbelievable comebacks in that stadium. And today was unlike any other that I, that I've ever. That I've ever seen. For the. From the Broncos. Ocho, what. What did. Let's take it from. Let's take it from the. Let's take it from the Giant perspective because Jackson Dart was 15 to 33, 283, three touchdowns, one interception. He was sacked four times. They ran the ball 32 times for a buck 19. Wandell Robinson was 6 for 95. Bellinger was 3 for 88. Scatterboat ended up catching a 1113 yard touchdown on third and third and 11 from the Giants. Where. Where did the Giants go wrong? What did they do.
Unc
I think. You know what, every play counts. We always talk about that and how turnover sometimes is costly. They make you pay double. You know, for a team to be able to come back 33 in the fourth quarter, field goals that have miss. Field goal that miss that are miss obviously early in the game. P. Those ps, they. They cost you, huh? They cost you. They cost you on the back end. Outside of that, Jackson thought, what you want to do. You want to protect the ball. You want to protect the ball. You can't throw interceptions. But what you. What you see from him, Monk, and just giving you a chance. When giving you a chance offensively, having a nice healthy balance of the run and the pass, and then him being able to. Being able to be a dual threat and make plays with his legs extending plays, looking downfield and doing some of the things he did toward the end of the game. Outside of that, you know, defensively, no. 33. 33 UNK. 33 points. 33 in one quarter. In one quarter. Not over a span of an entire game. But that comes down to. Listen, defensively, we gotta be a little tight knit. We got to be a little tight knit. And obviously in those situations as well, offensively, you want to hold the ball. You want to choose that clock out. You want to choose some of that clock out. So they're not able to come back from a deficit like that in just one goddamn quarter. So I think this is the learning experience for Jackson Dart with it being just his fourth start. But I think they're going to be all right, man. For one thing, even though they lost the game, you have to feel good at the Giants fan.
Ocho
You have to look, you got something special. Scatterball gonna have to understand, Ocho, you can't run over everybody or you. Or you'll have no. You'll have no memory by the time you 25. I understand that. You look, you. Everybody to play in the NFL, everybody have a certain level of toughness. Now, I ain't telling what somebody told me. I'm telling you what I know.
Unc
What'd you say?
Ocho
You don't have to prove how tough you are. It's okay. Okay.
Unc
He said you can't do what you.
Ocho
Hey, he ain't gonna be able to remember his name at 25. He keep on trying to head hunt people. But I look, they. They found their quarterback. They. They've identified their quarterback. And he was phenomenal. He was really. He was really good today. He made the one mistake and the one thing that you can't have happen Even if Ocho, even if you punt the ball away, you make them drive, you let them get the ball back. And they only have to go 20 yards for a touchdown. So now you minimize the amount of time that they. That you've used off the clock. If you punt that ball away, Ocho, and they gotta drive 80 yards, so be it. Unless you give it. You know, you say nothing cheap, nothing deep. As long as you don't give up a bomb, it's gonna take them a minute, minute, 30, maybe even two minutes. That's what you need. Time is your friend, not a score. Time. Tick, tick, tick, tick. And so that's the thing. I thought the Broncos, look, I was like, Sean Payton, what are you doing? What is this? You're at home, you're at home. Guys did drop some passes, But I. Look, J.K. dobbins need more than 14 carries. He had 14 carries for 81 yards. But when you're behind by the margin that they're behind Ocho, it kind of takes you out of running the football. So now I gotta throw. It's hard to run yourself back into a game. You have to throw yourself back into the game. But I thought Sean Payton did a well enough job of still incorporating a few runs here or there. The Broncos almost blew this, bro. Why y' all fighting all out?
Unc
Let em score.
Ocho
They missed the pa. Let them score. Let them score. Now you get the ball back with a chance that. Cause I was. I was a foregone conclusion that I thought the guy was gonna make. Make the pat. So now we can. You, you know, you get in field goal range now, you make a field goal, now you go into overtime. I was so glad that they reviewed it and said it was a touchdown and then gave the Broncos an extra six seconds. Because originally it was scored. It was 31 seconds. They put an extra six seconds. Remember when they killed the clock, it was two seconds. Every second matters when you're behind. But I thought they did a great job. Look at. I mean, it looked like he was throwing the ball, and it was like a. I don't know what they did because Marvin Mims Jr. Is supposed to run a scene to clear it. Cortland Sutton is coming in on the dagger for some reason.
Unc
They all in the same spot. Mims pull up the same spot. Yeah.
Ocho
And it looked like Sutton was like. And he pulls his hand back, hits Mims. Okay. They get up there, they kill it now from the inside. They love to run this play. They put a Courtland Sutton in the slot and. And they run him on a fade up the rail. He's a great jump ball guy. He's a big.
Unc
They switched him. Yeah.
Ocho
Yes, yes. Because guess what? The guy in the slot, he don't want you to run a shallow cross. So he gonna be slightly inside. So it's gonna be an easy release.
Unc
And every time, it's gonna be an easy release.
Ocho
So you got the advantage on him. He ups over the top of him, catches it, gets out of bounds, come down, spike it, and then will look, you know what?
Unc
Obviously, Giants fans. John the owner. John Mara, right? Yeah. John Mara. Brian Day ball.
Ocho
John Mars. Hey, Tish. The Tish and Tomorrow family brother Tish. Well, they sold a 10 minority stake. I don't know who sold it to. I'm not.
Unc
I'm not sure who they sold it to too. But if. If you haven't trials for kickers tomorrow, if you haven't trials for kickers tomorrow, you know who to call. Because I'm. I'm. I'm probably the best kicker in NFL history. Cause I've never missed. And if you want somebody that's consistent that you can count on, where you can win games on their leg, and they have one job to do, you have one job, you do one thing for a two hour practice, you kick the ball. That's it.
Ocho
Yep.
Unc
So I'm not too far away. I could be in New York tomorrow.
Ocho
They. Those two missed pats definitely help the Broncos. And you look, I don't care what anybody says. It's deflating you. Everybody's high. You high fiving on the sideline, Ocho, you're like, yeah, we just got a touchdown. And then all of a sudden, the field goal, then all the kicker. The kicker shakes. It is a letdown. I don't care what anybody says, like, oh, yeah, we good.
Unc
We are.
Ocho
We are. No, bro, no. We work too hard to get that six points for you to come out there and jack off that one point.
Unc
And it's so funny. I was so confident. I'm watching the game, I'm like, well, God damn, the Broncos getting whooped. And then somebody tweeted me. Well, shoot, I ain't heard from Unc. Hey, Ocho, you might want to go check on Unk, man. You know what, Wolf? I see Jackson Dart go down there like a goddamn magician. And he leap, he score. You know, great effort. I'm like, oh, let me tweet, uncle. Make sure I'm good over there. I look back up, I go to the bathroom and come back, I'm like, What the hell happened?
Ocho
I did the same thing. I let the dogs out Ocho after the Broncos scored, and then I come back in like a minute later. The Broncos got the ball. I said, how the hell we get the ball? I don't know how we got it, but I was glad we had it. And the next day, you know, I mean, think about it. I think I read a stat that says, Bo Nixon is the first player in NFL history to score two, throw two passing touchdowns and have two rushing touchdowns in. In the fourth quarter.
Unc
And that's, that's that mean defensively.
Ocho
I mean, this hurt. Oo if you're a Giants fan or you a Giants player, this hurts.
Unc
It got to.
Ocho
This hurts. I'm telling you, I've had. I, I don't know if I've ever had a defeat like this where we had such a big lead. I mean, a t loud team to score 33 points in the fourth quarter. I don't know if I've ever had a loss like this, but this one hurts. I mean, I, I've lost a game, you know, walk off game. We lost, lost a couple of times. The walk offs to. Lost to Kansas City one year. I think it's 97 got hit a. I think a 54, 57 yard field goal to walk it off. But man, because you played well enough, you didn't turn the ball. Think about it. You had one turnover, you had one pick interception intercepting. But see, when did he throw the pick in the fourth quarter? Remember, all turnovers are created equal. You turn this over, you just have this pick in the first quarter now, now, team just scored. Now you give them an opportunity to score again. They're right back in the ball game now. They're. That stadium is rocking. I can just imagine. Now, I know some people had left because I see. But hey, I saw a lot of. And I saw the cameras moving. I said, yeah, Bronco, Bronco, they rocking that stadium right now. And man. Boy, I can say football.
Unc
Hey, you. You can say it. Hey, listen. You can say it. You, you listen. You worthy. You worthy of. You can say football. You can say pig skin. You can say Broncos country, let's ride. You could. I mean, whatever you want to say, you can say it. I'm with you. I. I can't. I can't. I got to put my foot in my mouth. I got to put my foot in my mouth. Hey, you can put your robe on too. You can put your robe on.
Ocho
No, we don't want, we don't want the football we want to see what's in the locker. Oh, Joe, just bear. Bear with.
Unc
I beg you. Take your time. Take your time. Listen, I'm with you when you. Right. I spoke too soon. I put my foot in my mouth. Listen, I'm not too wrong. Too many times I was wrong tonight, though.
Ocho
You sure weren't.
Unc
Listen, but one thing about it. Listen, I wasn't on the field. I wasn't playing defense.
Ocho
I don't know where you were.
Unc
I wasn't playing defense for the Giants.
Ocho
So when you become a Jazz fan. When you become a Giants player. Yeah, I mean, stop telling me who, me? Yeah, you.
Commercial Voice
I'm talking.
Unc
No, listen, I'm not a Giants fan. I'm a fan of Jackson Dart and his excitement that he bring to the.
Ocho
Oh, he played for the Giants, so that means you root for him. You root for him, you root for them.
Unc
No, no, I like scatterball. I like scatterball. Jackson Dart.
Ocho
Oh, yeah, okay. You root for him, you root for them.
Unc
No, I'm rooting for the individual, not the team itself. I don't have no ill will toward the Giants, but I like what Jackson Darton.
Ocho
I hate eggs, but I love chicken. How you gonna love to buy product or something? That. How you gonna look? You don't. You don't like the animal, but you like the byproduct.
Unc
I mean, it happens sometime. It happens sometimes. Listen, I ain't never said nothing bad about the Broncos. I never did. That's a different helmet.
Ocho
Oh. Oh, what's that? I don't even know where y' all go at this guy.
Unc
Hey, hey, he nice, too, though. He nice. He nice. You got socks, too.
Ocho
I don't even know what. I already know why they thought about.
Unc
What you doing with the damn socks.
Ocho
Hey, I might. Hey, you lucky I didn't come out here padded up. Hey, y' all, look at it. Come out here padded up.
Unc
Matter of fact, you know what? Matter of fact, I'm trying to think. When my team play again, we play.
Ocho
Y' all play Sunday, okay?
Unc
Hey, after we beat the Jets, I'm coming in my full uniform.
Ocho
You should really. Ocho, The Jets? What?
Unc
Whoa, whoa. This is an NFL team.
Ocho
I can't take.
Unc
I can't tell team. I. I have nothing. I have nothing to do with how they're doing.
Ocho
Did you see them play today?
Unc
Oh, that was bad, huh? That was bad, boy.
Ocho
Ocho, we had the conversation and we're gonna get to it in a minute about Justin Fields. I said, ocho, I don't know how Much longer they can let it go.
Unc
I didn't know it would be this soon, though.
Ocho
I, I, I, I. If he gonna keep playing like he played. We saw him last week against the Broncos. Oh, minus 10 yards. Hold on.
Unc
That's not fair. Now, that's against the Broncos defense, one of the best defenses in the league.
Ocho
Now, he played Carolina, and it wasn't much better.
Unc
Listen, listen, Stay with me real quick, now. This ain't the same Carolina of old. Now.
Ocho
They have won no games. Huh? They've won no games.
Unc
I'm with you. I'm with you, right? There's not much I can say, but.
Ocho
The Broncos, I don't know how, and I ain't asking no question why, but we came back, scored 33 in the four. Have y' all seen anything like that?
Unc
Yeah, on Madden, on the video game.
Ocho
I mean, we scored 33 in the first.
Unc
Hey, I see the majors come back.
Ocho
That's the most points they've ever scored in the fourth quarter when you didn't score any points in the first place.
Unc
That's crazy, ain't it? That's crazy. I'm not sure what did the. What did the. What did the Giants do defensively different the first three quarters that they didn't.
Ocho
Do in the fourth because the Broncos was hurting themselves because they started. They started playing instead of behind the sticks, they started playing in front of the sticks. It's hard. It's hard to keep converting. Third and 10, third and 11. It's hard to get that. It's hard to, you know, all of a sudden, you second and 15, you first and 20, man, you're not gonna make. You're not gonna make a living making those. Getting that down and distance. But the Broncos kept plugging away, and the spirits of DT man would not let them lose today. So congratulations to Broncos Bronco country. You know, we proud.
Unc
Are you? Are you happy?
Ocho
And we ain't cocky, but we ride on your team like a car Wasaki. We ain't bad and we ain't cocky, but we ride on your team like a car with sock. I like that. I like that. We did. Yeah, we did.
Unc
That's a nice little rhyme right there. Okay.
Ocho
Yeah, I like that.
Unc
I like that.
Ocho
Your team, Bronco. Stand up, Bronco. Cuz that's what you stand up.
Unc
I mean, listen, I put my foot in my mouth. I apologize to you. I apologize to all the Bronco fans out there. I still love you. I never say anything bad about you. No ill will, nothing malicious towards y'. All. It was Just a little fun banter between me and Unc, that's all. That's all.
Ocho
Yeah. Take no offense. I was, hey, you know, the Broncos Jackson Dart got dinged a little bit. I was like, yeah, put Russ in there. I had that Birdman hand rub.
Unc
I said, yeah, hold on, hold on, Russell. Russ is a child of God now. Russ is a child of God now. You ask for one of God's people to come on that field, then the outcome might not have been what you thought.
Ocho
Yeah, hey, well, Russ must be a stepson of Jackson daughter's real son. Cause Jackson Dart got the starting job now. So what is he.
Unc
I understand what you're saying. I understand what you're saying.
Ocho
Mac Jones filled in again for Brock Purdy. Did a great job. He was 17 or 26, 152, one interception. But it was a combination of C max, C. Mac let him in rushing 24 carries, a buck 29, two tubs. He also let him in receiving seven catches, 72 yards along a 17 on eight targets. He was Mr. Everything and they relied heavily on him. And that's what you're supposed to do. And the defense got out the Pennix, they didn't really sack him a whole bunch, but they pressured him, they hurried him up, they made it rush his throws and. And they win a ball game. They're now moved to 5 and 2 as the Falcons fall to 3 and 3. Ocho watching this game, what did you like about what you saw from the 49ers? Who, you know, we, they have lost their best defensive player. Bosa, the best defensive player and Fred Warner, you know, they, they, they. They've been banged up. The quarterback, starting quarterback, $50 million quarterback. He's out. I, you. He's out. Kittle just came back today, but somehow Kyle Shanahan is pieced it together, kept his team together and, and they're five and two.
Unc
Hey, listen, Mac Jones has been done a hell of a job. He's done a hell of a job. And filling in for Rock Pie after Rock Pie went down. It seems like they haven't missed a beat offensively despite the injuries. On, on obviously on both sides of the ball. Kittle come back today. I don't really like the way they use Kittle tonight. They use him as if he's a blocking tight end. Didn't really give him anything on the offensive side off the side of the ball, you know, through the air. But Christian McCaffrey leading the way not only on the ground, but also also in the air. They had Juwan Jennings, who I expected to be more of a contributor after just, you know, just paying him, allowing him to, to. To get a feel for the offense and get some passes. Kendrick Bourne, who just went crazy last week, if I'm not mistaken, just went crazy previous week and he wasn't as effective as he was from offensive standpoint for them, but they still won the game. On the other side, on the other side of the ball, the Falcons unc. It was obviously a snooze fest. If you watched the game, I'm not sure if you watched. You might have watched it with the sound off. If you watch it with the sound off, you might have been asleep. Yeah, it wasn't exciting at all. It wasn't exciting at all. They kept trying to do the same plays over and over. Outside zone, outside zone, outside zone. But they couldn't really get Bijan Free. He couldn't bust one, bust one open tonight. Kyle Pitts, they had some, some plays where they got on the ball. Drake, London, that's what.
Ocho
Yeah, I thought he was involved. He had 10 targets.
Unc
But it just, it just, it just wasn't enough.
Ocho
Look, teams, look, they're going to have to beat teams throwing the football. Teams are not going to let B. Robinson. We know what Bijan Robinson can do. We're not going to let him have the type of game that he, that Christian MC had. You remember the other night, Ocho against Buffalo? We saw what he did, ran the ball and he received. We're not letting him do that. If Drake, if, If Michael Pennix Jr. Can drop back and throw the ball and beat us, so be it. But we're not going to let. We're not going to let that running back beat us because he's special. We understand just how special he is. You're going to have to beat up. Your quarterback's going to have to beat us from the pocket. And you. Look, actually, I want to put him on the move because he does. He's not nearly as accurate on the move as he is on the pocket. And you notice they, they brought some pressure to get him on the move and he was inaccurate. 21 of 38, 241, one touchdown. Was sacked twice, hurried a bunch, but they stymied him running the football. OO 20 carries, 62 yards. That's not good enough. That, that is not nearly good enough for this team in order to win because they have to have somewhere and that's when they're at their best, when they can get algier running the football. When they can get Bijan Robinson running the football. That's when they're absolute. That's when they're. The Falcons are at their best, and tonight they couldn't get the running game, and so they became so reliant on the passing game, and I don't think Phoenix Jr. Is there yet. Drake London had 10 targets on the four catches, as you mentioned, Kyle Pitts had 10 targets. He did have seven catches for 62 yards, which was probably one of his better games thus far this year. But in order for the Falcons to be what they think they can be, especially with this offensive firepower, it starts with that running back. It starts with him. He. He is the. Look, he might not be. He's the. He's the. The spoon, right? Stir it. Now, he might not be the sugar. He might not necessarily be the tea, but if you just dump sugar and tea in there and puts water in there and hey, all the things just.
Unc
Gonna go to the bottle.
Ocho
He stirs it. He makes every. He makes everything swirl. He makes everything better.
Unc
If he makes everything better and he makes everything go offensively. When you have a night like tonight, when the 49ers say it's obviously the second level did one hell of a job with Fred Warner being gone, Nick Bosa being gone. The second level did a hell of a job in stopping Bijan Robinson. So what's the next thing you have to go to? You have to go through the arm. You have to go through your passing game. Drake, London Mooney, Kyle Pitts, all those guys have to be able to contribute to the offensive game plan and allowing Michael Pennix Jr. To flourish through the air. I'm not sure. I'm not sure what happened. It hurt. Why you took your helmet off?
Ocho
Huh?
Unc
Hey, any. Any. Anyway, Chad, I think for Michael Penning Jr. If the run game is not working with Bijan Robinson, he has to be able to get back there and throw the ball. He has to. And then they throwing smoke screens. They throwing smoke screens to Kyle Pitts. They throw. You heard me. Yeah, they throwing smoke screens to cow pits.
Ocho
That. That. That.
Unc
That does nothing for him.
Ocho
That.
Unc
Not. That does nothing for him. That he. He's not that kind of player with and he's not that twisted and face somebody up and make move. That's not what he does. You put him in positions like you did put him down, you know, and you put him out at receiver and you have complete mismatches. Use them that way. But I mean, listen, I think they misuse him a little bit outside Outside of that, I, I, I, I mean.
Ocho
Look, o, I would like to play in today's game and catch because I'm gonna have a bunch of catches because they throw so many screens and shovel passes to the, to the tight ends and all that stuff. But I put me down the field. I'm trying to get down the field. I ain't got to worry about nobody. I ain't got to worry about no receiver kicking out somebody, or the guard, the tackle kicking out somebody, or the running back blocking somebody. Send me down the damn field. I know what coverage it is, and so I know I'm vulnerable. So, but look, this is a big win for the 49ers, and this is what you like when you sign a backup quarterback. You want your backup quarterback to be able to hold a court down until your starter comes back. I still believe, I firmly believe they should have stayed exactly where they were, took Matt Jones. You don't have to give up anything now that those picks, those first round picks and those second round picks that you had to give up. Think about what you could have done. Because they do a good job of drafting, they do a great job of, of, of identifying a player and developing said player. They do a great job of that. But Brock Purdy saved him. But going to get Mac Jones has really helped him out this year because I'm not so sure Mac Jones has been a starter, he's been a Pro bowl player. He understands he's perfect for this system. He doesn't have a big arm. He has great anticipatory skills. He can throw on time. And he understands. He's a smart guy. He's not mobile, he's not, but he can do what Kyle Shanahan needs him to do in order to win ball games. And, and that's all I need you to do, son. Keep us afloat. I just, hey, you got this life. Them lights that they have on, they stay for 24 hours. I need you to keep us, I need you to keep us afloat for 24 days. It's been longer because this is his fifth game starting, Ojo. But I thought he, I thought he played really well. He got a, you know, a couple of drops in there, had a deep ball, and number five, I don't know what his name is like, bro, you.
Unc
Got, you gotta have that drop.
Ocho
You gotta have it ojo.
Unc
That was a nice return.
Ocho
That's, that's what, you gotta have it, Ocho, because, look, we're playing with our backup quarterback. We gotta help him out, you know, Ocho, now you got to step in and place. We got to have everything we got. Hey, we got to make those tough cases. Excuse me, those tough catches. And that's what. That's what they needed to do. Dallas Cowboys double up The Washington Commanders 44 22. The Cowboys offense is rolling. Dak 21 of 30, 264, three touchdowns. Javante Williams, 19 carries, a buck 16, one touchdown. C.D. lamb, first game back, five catches, a buck 10 touchdown. Long 74. George Pickens, four, 82. Long 44. Jake. Jake Ferguson, seven catches, 29 yards, two tubs. The Cowboys offense looked really good. Their defense looked a lot better because they played from behind, and now they get to pin their back.
Unc
That's the key.
Ocho
They were. They. They got at the. They have four sacks today. Kenneth Murray Jr. Had one, James had one. Jadavian Clowney had one. I can't even. I only messed his brother's name up. Ocho, watching the Cowboys, as a matter of fact, they got. Guess where they'll. They're on the road next weekend.
Unc
Yeah. Hey, I. I ain't gonna. I'm not even gonna talk no trash. I'm not gonna talk no trash. But I know one thing. Pat certain II he gonna have his hands full depending on who he follows, whether it be George Pickens or whether it be CD Lamb. But I know he. He going to. He going to do a hell of a job. See, I might even talk no trash. I ain't gonna talk.
Ocho
Hey, hey, Dak. Stay away from two. That's all I'm saying. Hey, CD Spends a lot of time. He don't really go. So he'll probably deal with Pick. Probably stay on Pick. And. But there's. Look, when the Cowboy. When you can run the ball like the Cowboys, it's hard. Javante WILLIAMS Getting. Getting 4, 5, 6, 7 yards of carry. So you got. I mean, you got the single up.
Unc
You got no choice.
Ocho
Riley Moss, you're gonna have to. But, hey, bro, bro. I mean, at some point in time, Ocho, I. I'm not gonna lie. At some point in time, you gotta say, you know what? Every time somebody need a big throw, they throw it at me. I'm talking about at some point in time, you say enough. Yeah, I'm like Reggie and Professor Clump. With Reggie, they killed with a. What you call him? What's his name? What was. What was Professor Clump with? Club. Yeah, Professor Clump. When he. He was on Reggie at the. At the. At the comedy club. And Reggie said, enough.
Unc
All them jokes. Yeah, yeah.
Ocho
Yes. Riley. At some point in time you've got to say enough. Yeah. I mean, you gotta make them pay.
Unc
You got to make them pay. They want to come at me, they got to make a play. I, I remember, I remember Daron Bland, since we talk about the Cowboys and they chose not to throw Trayvon Diggs way and they kept throwing over there the Bland and he kept picking everything off like a booger. Yeah, you gotta, got another one today. I mean, let's you, hey, the Cowboys look good. They look, they look, they look so good.
Ocho
They have, they have looked good offensively. Their problem has been defensively when they.
Unc
When other teams, when they, when they're playing ahead, that's when the defense look good.
Ocho
Yeah. Because you, you neutralize the threat of the run. If their problem is Ocho is that when the defense is bad and the offense, Dak, you know, they, he turns it over, he gets a pick or they, they fumble the ball. If you tell me that they're going to be able to play with a lead or they're going to be able to be nip and tuck, you're gonna have your hands full because they can run it with Javante and they got two guys that can go get it. And then that tight end that, that nice Jake Ferguson, he ain't got no great speed, but he got great hands.
Unc
Ferguson is night. And the funny thing about it too, when you see the Cowboys playing, Chat, chat, y' all stay with me. When you see the Cowboys playing the way they playing today, they can compete with anybody. They can compete with anybody. I'm talking about the Pack, I'm talking about the Chiefs, I'm talking about the Eagles, all those teams that are high scoring, that can score 25, 30 points a game. The goddamn Cowboys can do that every single week. Every week. Hey, one thing I do, I want you to tell Cowboys fans something, I tweeted something earlier today is I was talking about George Pickens, right? Obviously George Pickens there, he's on a one year deal and obviously, look, they have to do something with that at the end of the season. That, yeah, I mean his, his price point is going to be too high. They're gonna have to restructure. CD Lamb has already got his money and I'm telling people it would be good for George Pickens to be able to go somewhere and get his money, which is, which is well deserving based on the seasons he's having, being that all the other receivers have gotten their money and everybody's about, oh, Ocho, shut Up. Pickens ain't going nowhere. He gonna stay here. Well, who gonna take a discount?
Ocho
Because, well, here's the thing, Ocho. They got. Look, they're going to have money under the cap for the simple fact they're going to redo Dax deal. Let's just say Dak cap number is going to be 74 million. He ain't playing on that number next year. So they'll probably do get. Give Dak another, you know, say he has two years left on that deal. We'll add. We'll add four years to it. We'll give him, you know what, we'll give him another 60 million. We'll give him 150 million, 200 million guarantee whatever the case may be to get that cap number down. We get his cap number 30, now we can focus our attention on George.
Unc
Hold on. So if you're gonna focus your attention on George Pickens, right? And the cap is round 30. What you giving? What you giving Pickens a year?
Ocho
I'll give him somewhere between 32 and 35.
Unc
Okay. Okay. We talk. We talking business. I like, I like where you're mining. I like, I like me for me. For me. Honestly. Based on what he can do. Based on what he can do and what he showed you he can do. He showed it with the quarterback carousel with the Steelers. He's showing a consistent, competent offense with a good quarterback in deck. Hey, give me 35. We could talk.
Ocho
Here's the thing. He knows. He knows he has a quarterback and getting the ball. He knows if they double. If they double cd he's getting one on one coverage. Dax gna look for him. Dax gonna give him every opportunity to.
Unc
And he making every last one and.
Ocho
He'S making every last play. Now the only problem and people and I and the people say with Shannon, the Bengals were able to keep t. The difference between George Pickens and T. Higgins. The Bengals drafted T. T had been there for three, four years. George Pickens is right now as a rental. Now you can buy rental cars. You can go to Hertz and they had them. They had the Mustangs that you can buy. You can buy a rental car from Avis. You can buy it.
Unc
Hey, but this is the problem. I don't like, huh? You understand Jerry Jones. You understand how Jerry Jones conduct business.
Ocho
He loves offense.
Unc
I understand how he's made all his stars wait. And he drug out the process when it comes time to pay players. That's all I'm saying.
Ocho
That's all he has. David Mugaletta, you know, David David. But hey, he said one, One negotiation doesn't. Doesn't represent another negotiation. George Pick is going to want somewhere between 32 and 35 million. He don't give a damn who gives it to him.
Unc
Say it again.
Ocho
Cowboy said he don't give a damn what who gives it to us.
Unc
I told y', all, y' all don't listen to me.
Ocho
You might like shopping at home, but if they don't got it, I go to Trader Joe's. If they don't got it, I go to Smith's. If they don't got it, I go on.
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Unc
These are people, the people trying to tell me in the earlier, you know, earlier on Twitter, he ain't going nowhere. He gonna take less money.
Ocho
Huh? No.
Unc
Do y' all understand?
Ocho
They, they. Look, the thing is, is that like I said, when you look at Dax number. Dax number is 74 million. He's not playing on the 74 million dollar cap. They're gonna get that down in probably next year's cap. Probably be somewhere around 20 million, 30 million. But give him a big signing bonus. Probably a hundred million dollars to sign. Yeah. Yeah. But George Pickens is going to want to eat.
Unc
Got to. It's my first.
Ocho
You don't want to eat. Now you got money because you didn't find Michael. You got, you got money and you've taken care of, you've taken care of your guards, you've taken care of Duron Bland. You've taken care of people that you need to take care of and, and pick as a guy. Look, Jerry loves offense. He loves the way Dak is playing. And when you see offense be like, okay, this is when you had Michael Irving and you had Alan Harper. You double, you double Michael. Alvin Harper's gonna make you pay on the backside.
Unc
Yeah.
Ocho
You got a Jay Nov check and, and Jake Ferguson. Shore handed, reliable, not the best blocker. But you know what? We, we ain't brought you here for the block. We brought you here to. To catch. Catch. Get us, keep us a first down, keep us keep the chains moving and touchdowns. He had a touchdown, is catching his four straight games. Javante had his second 100 yard rushing game, six rushing touchdowns on the season. He's healthy. I loved him coming out of North Carolina and he had a good early years with the Broncos, but he hurt his knee and then he came back and he wasn't the same. Unless you Adrian Peterson, it normally takes you a year and a half for that knee to get right. Now they got the guy that's A year and a half removed from that surgery. And now this is what. When the Broncos selected him in the second round, this is what they thought.
Unc
Now the Cowboys guy.
Ocho
But the Cowboys look good. Now we got to talk about Jane daines. He was 12, 22, 156, one touchdown. He ended up tweaked his hamstring. We'll see you gonna get an MI tomorrow. We'll see the extent of that. I don't know how far they can go without him. Without.
Unc
Listen, Mariota, is it showed he can play some good ball. He can string off. He can string off some wins, but he's too up, up and down, huh? You don't know which. You don't know which H. Yeah, yeah. You don't know which eight you're gonna get. But obviously he coming in and starting in a game where you haven't had many reps with the ones and being thrown in the fire, you have to catch. You have to catch yourself in the rhythm. You got to get yourself going. Obviously, you're not. You're not acclimated to. To the speed of the game. You're not acclimated to the. The tempo in general. You know the play, you know what you're supposed to do. But your timing is going to be off a little bit. Your time is going to be, you know, be a little rusty. I think if, obviously, if, if, if he's not able to go this week, if Jaden Daniels is not able to go this week and he gets another week under his belt with the ones and getting him. Getting him getting that rhythm going with the ones and tempo going with the ones. I think he'll be fine and play much, much better next week. But it's hard. It's hard. It's hard to come off the bench and make sure the team doesn't miss a beat. And you come in and just do your thing. Especially when you're playing from behind.
Ocho
Yeah. Yeah. They just pinning the ears back. Dak. Last four games, Ocho, he had 319 pass yards, three touchdowns, 237 yards, four touchdowns, 261 yards, three touchdowns, 264 yards today, three touchdowns, zero interceptions. He's got to be. Who is leading the league in touchdown pass to Stafford. Cause Stafford had less than 200, had five TDs today. I think Jackson. I thought. Jack. I think Jacksonville, you know, emptied their tank against Kansas City. Cause they look like stir fry the last two games. But we will talk about it. Hey. Cause Dubois. Cause y' all talk about Ocho and I. We don't talk about the Jags enough. So we gonna jump on y' all ass today. We gonna talk about you. We got something for you. Be careful what you wish for.
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Host: Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Co-Host: Ocho
Release Date: October 22, 2025
Episode Focus: Fiery NFL Week 7 Recap – Broncos’ historic comeback, offensive fireworks across the league, and the Cowboys' mounting threat.
In this energetic and laughter-filled episode, Shannon “Unc” Sharpe and Ocho take listeners through the wildest moments of NFL Week 7. The duo dig into the Denver Broncos’ jaw-dropping 33-point fourth-quarter comeback, what’s working (and not) for teams like the Cowboys and Bengals, and showcase the unique chemistry and keen football insight that makes Club Shay Shay a must-listen for fans.
Full of competitive banter, personal anecdotes, and candid assessments, Shannon and Ocho bring their signature energy, humility, and jokes—never shying from both heartfelt analysis and lighthearted roasting (of teams, players, and each other). The discussion style is rapid-fire, informal, but always insightful.
If you missed the wild ride of NFL Week 7 or just love hearing legendary players break down what makes or breaks big moments, this episode is essential. From historic comebacks to QB controversies and playoff races heating up, Unc and Ocho have you covered—laughs, stats, and locker room vibes guaranteed.