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BEST OF Part 2: SHOCKED Jaxson's QB1, Micah BOOED in Dallas, & JAGS MISUSING Travis Hunter
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Sports Analyst 1
Brian Dabon named Jackson Dart QB1 for the rest of the season. Here's what Day Ball had to say earlier today on the decision.
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Coach or Team Official
So in terms of the quarterback situation, I met both with Russ yesterday and Jackson privately, and Russ was nothing but a pro, which I would expect him to be. It's my decision. Going with Jackson, we're going to get him ready to play this week and the remainder of the season. He's going to do everything he can. Russ will be the backup. The conversations that I've had with these young men will Be private. The details will be private. All I can tell you is we're going with Jackson and we're getting ready to play. So I'm not going to add too much to it. Those are private conversations. It's my decision. And we're going with Jackson.
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Sports Analyst 1
Oo, are we gonna go ahead, hit Ross's? Okay. Okay. Here's what Russ had to say about the demotion.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah, yeah, let me hear that. Let me hear that. Let me hear my dog. Let me hear my dog.
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Coach or Team Official
I think that for me, just staying ready, you know, knowing what I'm capable of, like I said, life is about response. And you know, I can control two things and that's my attitude and my gratitude. And, you know, I think the other thing I can control is my work ethic and my preparation to be ready when my name's called again because I know what I can do and I know, you know, I know I'm going to do it again, you know, so that's, that's what I'm excited about.
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Sports Analyst 1
Now, Chad, just say, I ain't gonna rage bait. I ain't gonna do no kind of baiting. But when I told you guys what was going to happen, you don't know what you talking about. They got even my guy, even my co host. The man been with me for two years. We've been through thick and thin. I said, ocho, I say, look at the way the man playing now. I'm telling you what's going to happen. I say over under eight weeks. I said, russ is going to start Jackson, Dart is going to be the start, the backup, and then James will be the third string quarterback. Nah, nah, nah. Everybody, everybody was agreeing with you, Ocho. I said, ocho, I can see the way this thing playing out because they drafted this guy. And at the end of the day, the one guy that can save my job is not Russ, it's not Jameis Winston. Who's the one guy that can save Brian Daboff's job? Ocho, did you hear what you just said?
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Sports Analyst 2
I love that you went that route. Who's the one guy can save my job? The guy that I wanted, the guy that I drafted. But you throw, you throw a rookie quarterback out there right in the middle of the season, in the worst part of the season for, for them schedule wise, based on the opponents that they have to play, what happens when he doesn't play well? But here, what happened when things don't play well, what happened if you stick to your guns and you say once you make this Decision hunk. You can't turn back.
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Sports Analyst 1
He said he's the quarterback for the rest of the year.
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Sports Analyst 2
For the rest of the year. So you can't.
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Sports Analyst 1
Unless he gets injured. You're absolutely correct. And I wouldn't expect them to turn back and go back. But here's the thing though. Oo even if you lose too many games and Jackson Dart comes in and plays well, somebody else is going to be coaching him next year anyway. So you've got, you've got to go with it.
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Sports Analyst 2
You was good. Hey, listen, you was going. You was going right where I was going. Because I'm gonna say most of the time I'm thinking it's a real quarterback. And listen, Jackson, darn. He showed flashes of brilliance obviously in the preseason. But again, that's preseason. You know how the defense is a very, very vanilla. I think if he plays well enough, two things can happen. Either could play well. You can play bad. If you play bad, the ball you out of there. If he plays well and shows what we already would flash, what we've already seen, hell, you still might be fired.
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Sports Analyst 1
True.
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Sports Analyst 2
If Jackson Dark plays well, I think it's going to buy the ball sometimes.
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Sports Analyst 1
Might be right.
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Sports Analyst 2
I personally.
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Sports Analyst 1
Now this is what we know. We saw he got the job in New York because of how well he worked with Josh Allen. But we see Josh Allen after he leaves still go wins an mvp. Okay.
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Sports Analyst 2
Right.
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Sports Analyst 1
He. He has Indiana Jones. Indiana Jones looks better away from New York than he did in New York. So what? So, so how much are we to deduce that that day ball might be. Not be the quarterback whisper that we really thought he was? Because Josh Allen is still playing at the MVP level. He's the MVP front runner as we currently speak. And you look at Indiana Jones, what he's doing with the Colts. So he. I don't like I said I in Ocho. We talked about it Sunday. I said, ocho, if it's me, I'm gonna start him against the Chargers at home. I'm not gonna start him on the road in a hostile environment. I'm gonna start him because at least it will buy them some time. Yeah, but I'm starting him. So I was gonna. I said I'll start him Sunday against the Chargers and then I'm gonna go from there. But I knew this was gonna come sooner rather than later. Look, and it's. Look, it's never just one guy's fault. You can't make 22 changes, Ocho. You can make. What's the one change that I think can significantly impact the game. They believe it's the quarterback position now. The offensive line is going to have to play better. Everybody's going to have to play better, pick up their plate. You know, there are some mistakes that was made on Russ and I think, you know, him throwing the ball out of the end zone on fourth down didn't do himself any favors throwing a couple of. Couple of picks. But like you, like you said, oo it's not all on Russ, but the quarterback, they get way too much credit and they take way too much blame. Yeah.
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Sports Analyst 2
Ab. Absolutely. Absolutely. I. I feel. I feel bad for Russ. I feel bad for Russ. But this is what happens when you're. When you're towards the end of your career and you're going from team to team. Russ is a great guy. Russ is a great guy. He's a. He's a professional. He's the. The ultimate professional at the quarterback position. He's similar to. What if you would. If you were to have a comparison of Russell Wilson when it comes to a receiver that does everything the right way as, As a professional, I look at last. Gerald.
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Sports Analyst 1
Yep.
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Sports Analyst 2
You know, when it comes all the right things.
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Sports Analyst 1
Does all the right things. Yep.
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Sports Analyst 2
Every. Everything. So for Russ, you know, I feel bad for him. God fearing man, one of God's children. Says all the right things, does all the right things. He works hard. But obviously now it's in Jackson Dar team again. I told you hunk I would be. I would be in New York, right? So I'm tonight. So who you. Who you think I saw at the. At the Inner Miami game? And I told you I won't see him.
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Sports Analyst 1
Malik neighbors.
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Sports Analyst 2
Malik neighbors. So we sit to have a conversation. I noticed the cameras are watching so they can't read. No lifts. I say I flip them back and turn to me and ask the questions. The questions that's necessary, you know. How you feeling? Things not going well? How do you feel about not getting the ball? What do they need to do to be able to get you the ball, putting you in different positions. And obviously we had a conversation, very lengthy conversation, about 30 minutes, you know, on the field, on the pitch, before the game started. And obviously as any. As any receiver feels and once I won't say anything verbatim, put me in positions to make the plays. I'm gonna make them. That's it. Put me. Throw me the ball. That's it. It's pretty. It's pretty simple. It's not.
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Sports Analyst 1
It's not asking too complicated, too much.
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Sports Analyst 2
To make the plays you and put the ball in the area in the vicinity. If any way I can reach it, I'm gonna catch. Was. Simple as that. Simple as that. Obviously some other things, but I. I can't disclose those. But that's it?
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Sports Analyst 1
Yeah, that's it.
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Sports Analyst 2
I'm gonna be all right. And then he, of course he say, it don't matter who playing quarterback, right? That don't matter. Not, not, not to me. I'm him.
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Sports Analyst 1
Yeah, I gotta go do my job. But in order for me to do my job, I need people to put me in position to do my job. Yeah.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah.
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Sports Analyst 1
Well, you say, shannon, I need you. I need you to clean the gutters. Well, I'm gonna clean the gutter, but you damn better give me a ladder so I can get my ass up there. You can't tell me to do something. Look, if I can win damn near any war, if you give me the machine, the artillery, to go fight said war, you want me to go compete, Give me opportunities, put me in position so I can compete. And. And that's all he's saying. He's like, look, yeah, who wouldn't want to have a top five quarterback? But we know there's 32 teams and every, every quarterback situation is different. But what makes those guys unique is that their coordinators put them in position. Jerry got put in position. Randy and Chris Carter, then the Marvin Harrison and lan Fitzgerald. All the receivers that has these numbers. The Pro Bowls, the All Pros got put in position to. No matter what you think about. Who's your offensive coordinator? Zeke Burkowski.
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Sports Analyst 2
No, no, no.
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Sports Analyst 1
I mean, you was for a couple of years, right? Bob Berkowski.
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Sports Analyst 2
Bob Berkowski, yeah. Bob.
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Sports Analyst 1
So it doesn't matter. It doesn't have to be a Kyle Shanahan or Sean McVay or this or that. All you have to do is understand the pieces and move them apart.
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Sports Analyst 2
Hey, you notice what you just said? Understand the pieces that you have. Understanding your players strengths and weaknesses, the coordinators not having egos, and saying, this is my scheme, this is where I'm going to run it. I'm going to put you in position and you have to get open. Based on my philosophy, my ideologies and my scheme.
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Sports Analyst 1
The.
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Sports Analyst 2
The more creative, the more creative coordinators, whoever the, Whoever the goddamn lions off the grenade is. The angel, Reeves the cow, Shannon. Well, I know what he's good at. I know what he's not good at. So I'm not going to put him in that position for him to get exposed. Everybody plays receiver. But everybody can't get over the same.
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Sports Analyst 1
Some people you got to stack them. Some people you got to move them. Some people you got to put them in the slot. Some people, yeah. It is what it is. See our job. Go ahead, make your point.
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Sports Analyst 2
Unless you, unless you're one of those tier one receivers where all the.
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Sports Analyst 1
All the.
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Sports Analyst 2
What's the word? I want all the things that the makeup of being a great receiver, they're really good at all of them. Like Jamar chases. I see Malik Neighbors as a tier one receiver where you don't need much creativity. I can get what I need to get done off the muscle because I'm like that. It's only a few of them, too. It ain't a whole handful. Oh, it's only a handful. And I'm not getting into that because I don't want to piss nobody off. But I watch him.
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Sports Analyst 1
I think the thing is, Ocho, is that when you look at these guys, is that my job was easy playing for Mike because I know Mike's aggressive. So Mike's going to take chances where unnecessarily, like some coordinator is going to play it strictly by the book. Mike going for the jugular. And I know that he's gonna call plays accordingly. So now I can do things accordingly. Look, you can make a difference in someone's life, including your own, with a job in home care. These jobs offer flexible schedules, health care, retirement options and free training.
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Sports Analyst 1
Like I said, quarterbacks get a lot of credit. Far too much. They get far too much blame. But I saw, I saw this coming. I saw this coming. When Jackson Dart played well. Oo and we had our final show after Jackson Dart played well. I said over under. I really wanted to say the first quarter, the first four games, I like, oh, this, this kid playing this kid. Unless Russ blows it out of the water, there's no way he was gonna be able to hold him off.
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Sports Analyst 2
Well, hell, he blew it out. He blew it out the water. The Dallas game, after Dallas game, I thought, oh, yeah, he just bought himself some time. He bought himself at least 3, 4, 5 games. And then after. Who was that? They just played and lost to. Oh, ah, I mean, it's the Chiefs. It's the Chiefs.
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Sports Analyst 1
But see, people don't look at the Chiefs. If we looked at it, if the three years ago Chiefs, I say, okay, you got a point, Ocho, you got a point.
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Sports Analyst 2
Oh, so the struggling. The struggling Chiefs don't count?
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Sports Analyst 1
They don't die? Hell no. And, and, and I think the first game they played, the Commanders look right. He bought. He basically, he bought them. They was hoping, Let me tell you, looking at it from, from my perspective and having my years of experience, they were hoping to Russ buy them a little bit more time. Ocho, I agree with you. I don't. They didn't want him to play this soon. They was hoping. They were hoping Russ could buy them some time. At least half a season. Give us half a season. Yeah, but at this current pace, Day ball wasn't gonna have half a season. They're gonna end up. They're gonna end up firing him. He saw they were booed. It was just. It was. It wasn't gonna be.
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Sports Analyst 2
This is the thing. Huh? What I don't like. Russell Wilson is not in a position to where he used to be. Where. Where he can elevate a team. Where he's a quarterback that can elevate the team. Regard. Regard regardless to the pieces that surround him. Now he's in a position as a quarterback who's somewhat. Still adequate but needs to play around him to elevate his play.
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Sports Analyst 1
He needs words before oo. He can get away with less than ideal situations. He didn't need. He didn't need the Great Wall of China to be his offensive line. He didn't need. He didn't need two, three, four wide receivers on the tight end. He didn't need a lights out, even though he had that in Seattle. Yeah, but now he needs more. As we get older, we need more. I mean, look at Tom went and got more. Peyton went and got more. Aaron Rodgers, he needed more. And that's what happens as we get older. We need more help. So now where we could elevate everyone else, we need someone to help elevate us.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah, I think somewhat too. It's not. It's not fair. You look at the situations in which he went to. He went. He went to Denver. I'm not saying Denver. There's anything wrong with Denver, but I'm just saying it wasn't to me an ideal situation for him. Similar to when Peyton Manning went to Denver, it was a different ball game situation. Different. When Tom Brady went to Tampa Bay, it was a different ball game. I think the situations that he went to weren't ideal for him. They continue to have SEC success the way we're used to seeing Russell Wilson have success.
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Sports Analyst 1
I think sometimes Ocho, and this is what I'm saying, sometimes the devil you know is better than the one you don't see. Russ didn't realize. What the hell.
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Sports Analyst 2
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You ain't just gonna. Whoa, whoa, hold on right now. Stay right there. Right. Hey, what you cooking? Hold on, hold on. I'm. Oh, I'm using that.
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Sports Analyst 1
Sometimes the devil you know is better than the one you don't see. Russ didn't realize how great of a situation he had in Seattle. You see, he wanted more. He wanted more control. He wanted more input. He wanted more of this and more of that. He goes somewhere and he didn't have. He didn't have what he had in Seattle. He didn't realize how good he actually had it in Seattle. Sometimes we don't realize just how good we have something until it's taken away from us. And then you actually realize. See, we take for granted the ability to hear and the ability to smell and the ability to taste or, or have all uses of our limbs. Then when you don't have such, you realize like, damn, you don't realize. How the hell did I survive without a telephone this long? How the hell did they. Ooh. I couldn't imagine not being able to watch tv. I can't imagine not being able to go to a restaurant and just order whatever I want.
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Sports Analyst 2
Right.
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Sports Analyst 1
So he had that situation and, and he wanted more. Now he got, he got financial security. Oh yeah. For a couple of generations.
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Sports Analyst 2
Oh yeah.
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Sports Analyst 1
But at the end of the day, we haven't thought of. We haven't. Russ really haven't consistently looked like Seattle Russ since he left Seattle.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah, yeah. I mean we understand that we played the game, so we understand situations. When you change, when you leave it, when you leave a team like that, that's as great as they were offensively and especially defensively, you, you, you would hope and want ideal situations similar to what you left from. But most doesn't happen like, most of the time it doesn't happen like that. Going from going for Peyton Manning, going from Indy and then going to Denver, already stacked team, super bowl ready team. All that was missing was a quarterback. The goddamn. The Jamis, Winston, Tampa and Tom Brady coming into a. A team that is already ready to establish. We just need a quarterback.
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Sports Analyst 1
You have to understand because I was, look in Denver, I'm very close to. Because all my people, a lot of my people were still there. And I would go back and I watched how Peyton ingratiated himself. He was not standoffish, took time for everybody. He was Peyton Manning. You do realize at the time that he came to Denver, Ocho, he was a four, he was a four time league MVP.
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Sports Analyst 2
Absolutely.
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Sports Analyst 1
He was. He was already a five or six time first team all pro quarterback. No quarterback has more first team all pros, more MVPs than Peyton Manning. But you would know that by being around him and talking to him and then you watch him in the meeting rooms and you watch him on the practice field. And now you understand. He demands that you play at A level and you gotta match him. You've got. Tom Brady forces you to match that because people watch him and they see him. If he's working that hard, nothing less is accepted to me absolutely Everybody, everybody is, everybody leads differently. But everybody can't be a great leader either. There's a, there's a, you got corporals and you got lieutenants and you got one star and two star and three star and four star. They don't do five star generals anymore. They've only been five of those in the history of what we have of the military. Right, but, and Russ handled it like I thought he would. Yeah. He's hurt, man. You taking my job and I gotta stand. Y' all do realize I got him throw. How many touchdowns have Russ thrown for damn near 400. He's gotta be well over three. Came in the league in 2013, so this is his 14th season. So he came in in 2012. He was with RG3 and Andrew, look. So he's got 353 touchdowns. How many guys you know got 353 touchdowns stand on the sideline and hold a clipboard with the ear headset in the ear. Those guys start until they don't want to start it until it's time for them to lead the league. Look at the guy. Look at the guys that have thrown for 300 plus touchdowns. None of them never been, never got demoted like that. You get Matt Ryan, you look at Ben Roethlisberger, you look at Philip Rivers, John Elway, Dan Marino, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees. That's eight I could think of off the top of my head. Johnny Union. Now, obviously Johnny ended up going, you know, he didn't do very well when he got, when he left Indy and ended up going to the Chargers. But it hurts. And you got to put on a brave face. You do?
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah.
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Sports Analyst 1
Because a lot of times people want to see you crack. And Russ, and Russ is not wired like that. Russ is going to remain positive. And I, I, I'm happy the way he's, I'm very happy with the way he's handled this whole situation because deep down inside he knew. Ocho. You go to a place and they.
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Sports Analyst 2
Draft the quarterback, you already know what time it is. The clock is ticking.
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Sports Analyst 1
When Tom went to town, did they take a quarterback in the first round?
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Sports Analyst 2
No.
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Sports Analyst 1
And so they were just like, hey, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. And you gotta fight because you know they want to play it. That's not that he's not a decoration. That's not something that you just prop up. No, they wanted to play him. It's not like a situation like Alex Smith had. They drafted Patrick Mahomes. He knew Patrick. He said, I got one year. There's nothing I can do to keep them from playing Patrick Mahomes next year. My job is to try to keep them from playing his ass this year. Yeah.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah.
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Sports Analyst 1
And they went 11 and 5. Boom. They lost the G. They lost to the Titans. Had a what, a 183 lead? They ended up losing. But we'll see what Jackson Dark got going up against the Charger, who's playing as well as anybody in the, in the NFL. So go ahead, Go ahead.
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Sports Analyst 2
Just. I'm. I'm still stuck. I know we talk about Jackson Dark, we talk about Russell Wilson, the Giants and all that, but I'm still stuck on that goddamn quote you live with. Now, that's one I, I haven't heard before. I heard my grandmama, my grandfather say all type of stuff, but I'm using that. The devil you know is sometimes better when you don't. Who were you cooking for? I can't wait to add this to my family.
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Sports Analyst 1
God damn, that was a good. So, I mean, boy, it's not an easy road that the Giants have to go. And I don't know if you were with us Sunday we went over the schedule. So Sunday they played the Giants, excuse me, the Chargers. And then they're on the Road October 5th to New at New Orleans. They're home on a short week Thursday against the Eagles. Then they go at Denver, at Philly, home to the Niners, at Chicago, home to the packers, at Detroit, at New England by week.
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Sports Analyst 2
Hey, but that's tough.
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Sports Analyst 1
Oh, Joe. Michael Parsons doesn't expect any booze when he returns this Dallas on Sunday. I think they're going to give me a good round of applause. There's no hard feelings there. At least for me. It's going to be a great atmosphere. When asked about his feelings towards Jerry Jones, not a welcome back tribute, there are a lot of things I consider disrespectful throughout the process, but I wouldn't say the tribute is one of them. I would say I just think there's hard feelings maybe there for them. But for me, I'm happy where I'm at and we got a good football team, so I guess I can receive my tribute when I win. Ocho. We both returned, played against our former team we invested so much into. Obviously you tell me all the time, I was just there for like a weekend at Baltimore, but that's it. Did you go back? Did. Did you play in. Did you play Cincinnati?
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Sports Analyst 2
No, no, I did. I didn't. I didn't. Because you have to think, once I left Cincinnati, I only had that one after that.
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Sports Analyst 1
Right, right, right.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah, I was done. I was done.
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Sports Analyst 1
Well, they gave me love. I mean, I. When I went back to Denver, I went back to Denver the second year because first year oo, we beat him in the first round of the playoffs in the wild card game. So we beat him and then the following year we went back. Crowd cheered every time I caught the ball. Every. They introduced the offense. Crowd cheered. I go back, then I go back to Denver and we go to Baltimore. Gave me love both times. So. Yes, sir, I. I I think the thing is, is that for me there was really no hostility one way or another. There's really no protracted contracts and going back and forth asking for a trade X, Y and Z. But I told you, when he laid on that table, I said, oh, that.
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Sports Analyst 2
Ain'T a good look though. Yeah.
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Sports Analyst 1
I don't tell you.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah. The funny thing back, especially when it comes to the Dallas Cowboys, Cowboys fan base, there's no hostility towards Michael Parson because, you know, everything was out of his. Yes, everything's out of control. So everything that was said and in somewhat of a, almost an unfair way that you don't think an owner would say, he can maybe think it, but actually Jerry Jones is one of the few owners who gets away with saying the things that other owners think. And he said it out loud. He, he didn't care. So if anything, when he does come back to goddamn Dallas, there's no reason for the fans to boo him at all. Any, if anybody should be booed, it's you know who.
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Sports Analyst 1
Yeah, for me I was, look, I was in, I was in Denver for, for 10 years the first time oo and come back right. And you know, we had won, you know, back to back Super Bowls. I was a, you know, went to seven consecutive Pro Bowls, all Pro and all that stuff and went to one Pro bowl in Baltimore. But I think the thing is that the fans really appreciated how hard I worked. I didn't complain, I just came to work, showed up, did my job and I left. I had only had got along great with my teammates and I think Michael got along. Look, I don't know the inner and outs of. I don't know but I just think the thing is the last like the last four, two or three months Ocho with this contract talk and you know, look, at the end of the day those fans, they're Cowboys fans. Now you might find a sprinkle here or there of Michael Parsons fans, but those are Cowboys fans. And more times than not, you know how fans are. Fans are going to side with the team. That, that, that's just the way it is.
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Sports Analyst 2
But listen, you also have some that have common sense and understand how things are working. Some understand the business, some don't. Some only worried about who is a part of my Dallas Cowboy team. That's all we care about. But then some understand the business and, and understand how it works and able to separate the two. Being a fan and understanding how the team, how, how the team works, especially when it comes down to contract, sometimes they should be used to it anyway. Useful anyway when it comes to their star players because they've had. They've had to deal with it for so many years.
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Sports Analyst 1
Yeah. I think it's just funny going back, standing on the opposite side staring across over there for so. For 10 years, Oo, I stood on this side looking across the field. Now I'm over. I'm across the field, staring back across the field. And the same thing. When I went to Baltimore, it's different. You go in different way. You know, all of a sudden now I'm taking a bus to the stadium. I'm used to driving myself to the stadium. So it's, it's. It's going to be different. It's going to be different. And it's so new. I mean, he. Like only four years in Dallas. I mean, most people when you leave and go back, play another team, it's years and years. You know, Peyton with Tom played New England. Think about how long Tom. Tom had played 20 seasons in New England. He goes back, you know, first year and he played. So we, we get that. But it's like, man, four years, that's really. Damn, that's quick. But, but you don't sometimes don't. You don't get. That's out of your control. We don't always get to control. And look, as an athlete, we try to control what we can control because. And that's what we're good at, Ocho. Because look, I knew if I work my tail off, okay, good things gonna happen because I can control that. I can control how hard I work. When it comes to things like what happened with Micah, that was out of his control.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah, absolutely. And matter of fact, when it comes to things that we can control, the one thing that we can control, we can control our production and what we do and the work we put in. Most of the time, if you put the work in, the results are going to show up on Sundays. Two things we can't control is we can't control injuries and you can't control getting older. That's it. You want to do as much as you can in between that time and trying to ensure you don't get hurt. But once you hit like 30 and 31, the game start to play the game. Listen, once you hit 30 and 31, 32, 33, they start playing the games. Oh, well, your targets start. Start decreasing and they start. You know, we need to talk to you about your production and man, come on.
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Sports Analyst 1
Yeah, but, but I mean, I mean, tributes normally, man, that's for like the best of the best. I mean you won championships, you won mvp. You know what I'm saying? Like that you're a defensive player of the year. You spend some time, I mean after four years and look, and this is not a knock on Michael, Michael's a phenomenal player. But you know, when Emmett came back. Emmett came back, he was all time lead rusher, you know what I'm saying? It was an mvp. Emmett was won three Super Bowls. Tom going back to New England, Peyton going back to Indy. It's, it's levels to. I mean of a video tribute. And everybody's not going to get a video tribute. Even if you play 10 years, 15 years of plays every. I mean it all depends on who you were, what you did. If you a 15 year special teams player, you're probably not now maybe if you're Matthew Slater, you might. You'll probably get one. If you're Adam Vinatiera, you'll probably get one. But, but look, if I'm Mike, I ain't worried about that. Like Michael said, look, we win the game, that's my tribute and I'm coming. You know he coming, Ocho, you know?
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah, he coming.
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Sports Analyst 1
He been working on a move. He like. Cause when we're there, Ocho, let me tell you what you did when you was going against your guys in practice. You know, if, if this was a real game, what would happen?
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah.
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Sports Analyst 1
Cause I'm saying, bro, you do realize this practice, but if I actually played you in a real city, a situation.
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Sports Analyst 2
Right, right, right, right.
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Sports Analyst 1
Bro, I'm cooking y'. All. Oh yeah, for real? Yeah.
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Sports Analyst 2
And listen, you know, you know, hey, listen, one thing about it, especially in practice now, them boys made me better. Huh? I remember all my DB's name by heart. Remember Jeff Burrs?
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Sports Analyst 1
Yeah, I do. Yeah. I think he went to know from Notre today, right?
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah. Jeff Burris, Leon Hall, Tory James.
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Sports Analyst 1
Tory played with me. Tori came from lsu. He played with me and Denver.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah, man, listen, J. Jonathan Joseph, it's some more Pac Man. Hey, but in practice. Oh man, I'm talking about. Listen, I got mine. They got me some time too. But I know who got. I know who won most of the matchup. Hey boy. With Pac Man. Me and Pac man in practice. Oh my God.
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Sports Analyst 1
But it was it.
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Sports Analyst 2
Look, you talk about work. Well, we, we was out there working.
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Sports Analyst 1
And I want feedback.
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Sports Analyst 2
I'm out there working like I'm a seven round pick, huh? Man, Marvin and Hugh had. They had to throw me out of practice. Why in the hell are you Taking the scout team reps, man, get out the people way. Because I knew I wanted to go against my number ones. I'm not gonna get no real work unless I'm going against my number ones. They had. Let me tell you how bad it was. I know I'd be playing around a lot, but when it came time to play football, I might have been fun and talking trash and doing all that entertainment when it came to that game. And being a student of the game, I told you. But hey, oh, preseason, they talk about how many snaps we gonna play. You gonna call the timeout to get me out the game. But that, but that was. That was so much fun to me, man, just looking at Marvin face when all the ones came out. All the ones that come out and I stand on the field, act like there's something wrong with me until the second team come in and force Marvin to call the timeout. Man, listen, I'm here to play football, man. I ain't worried about no injuries. You ain't. I'm.
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Sports Analyst 1
Don't.
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Sports Analyst 2
Don't try to protect me from getting hurt, precious. I'm here. I play football. I went through two. Two weeks of training camp, two a days, and now you're telling me I only get to play one. One series, one drive?
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Sports Analyst 1
No, sir, that's. In a situation like that, Micah is going to. Look, Mike is going to say, this is why I was worth 47 million this game. This is why the packers gave up two first rounders and Kenny Clark and gave me $47 million. This is why.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah.
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Sports Analyst 1
You see what I did today? This.
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Sports Analyst 2
Why make it, make it a statement?
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Sports Analyst 1
Absolutely.
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Sports Analyst 2
Matter of fact. And speaking of 47 million, he gonna show that all season long, especially as they continue to work him in, allow him to get more reps, allowed to get his legs up under him, you know, once he gets in football shape because he missed so much time, you know, missing training camp. No, hell, we only. We. We only what in week four?
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Sports Analyst 1
Week four? Yeah, week four. And you know, hey, it's gonna take him a while. I mean, he. Couple of. Couple of weeks from being in. In tip top football shape. Oh, yeah, right. Now that, you know, he's a specialist right now, but hey, him and Rashawn Gary pretty soon. Because Rashawn Gary is tied for the lead league in sack. Pretty soon they gonna start.
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Sports Analyst 2
We got. We got four and a half, huh? Rashan got four and a half, huh? You see what happened when he come on Nightcap? See what I'm. See what I'm saying? That ain't number. God. That ain't number. God's work. Everybody. Come on. Nightcap have success?
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Sports Analyst 1
What?
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Sports Analyst 2
Melissa. What Melissa Jefferson left with in Tokyo?
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Sports Analyst 1
Two.
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Sports Analyst 2
What? Three. Oh, three of them. Oh, the 4x1. Three goals. Everybody. Come on. Nightcap having success.
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Sports Analyst 1
Okay.
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Sports Analyst 2
It ain't a coincidence.
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Sports Analyst 1
It is not. Bro, you need to be in bed. You should be in bed. You should be in the bed. Hey, Titus, Titus, Titus, it's your gonna make me petty.
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Sports Analyst 2
Hey, let me, Let me get, Let me get Titus for a week.
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Sports Analyst 1
No, no, no. You don't know how to. First of all, you don't know how to handle. You ain't been around, dog. You don't know how to handle him.
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Sports Analyst 2
Come on. I done had dog up now. I'm good.
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Sports Analyst 1
He different.
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Sports Analyst 2
N. He. He good. He good. I'm. Hey, I'm a dog. Huh? I'm a dog. Not that kind of dog. I'm saying, I'm like, I'm, I'm a dog. I become one with the animal. They used to call me the dog whisperer back in, back in 92.
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Sports Analyst 1
No, Ocho, you.
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Sports Analyst 2
I just want to take him to the dog park.
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Sports Analyst 1
He intact.
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Sports Analyst 2
I know he attacked, man.
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Sports Analyst 1
Yes. So you're not supposed to have. Oh, you got him. You can't have them there. Oh, you.
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Sports Analyst 2
Oh, he ain't spaded.
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Sports Analyst 1
Neutered.
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Sports Analyst 2
Okay, I'm gonna get. Hey, I'm gonna get. Hey, I'm.
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Sports Analyst 1
Get the homie some action, boy. People sue you.
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Sports Analyst 2
No, no, no. I mean, I got. It's a lady. I know she got a poodle.
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Sports Analyst 1
That's a heat. Yeah. You'll be in the border window. Yeah. Tell him, say, nah. Say we good. We better stay here with dad. The Falcons fire wide receiver coach Ike Hilliard one day after being routed by the NFC rivals Carolina Panthers offensive game. Game coordinator TJ Yates will assume. TJ Yates, that's the quarterback, the one he a quarterback for. The Texans will assume Hilliard's duties per the team. Offensive coordinator Zach Robinson will call plays from the sideline moving forward. Robinson called plays from the coaches booth since he joined the team in 2024.
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Sports Analyst 2
Hey, I'm confused. Is that supposed to be a distraction of some sort? What's the point of firing the receiver, Coach?
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Sports Analyst 1
I don't know. The quarterback played terrible.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me, especially this early in the season.
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Sports Analyst 1
I think that name sound for me. Yeah.
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Sports Analyst 2
I, I, I don't get that. I don't, I don't know. Maybe that was something internally. Internally that was going on but the.
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Sports Analyst 1
Fact but I don't know if you shaking things up I don't understand how to put so what guys running the wrong routes. I mean what was going on they got into an argument the coordinator and the position culture the head coach and the position coach got into it. I agree with you. Okay this don't, this don't seem right.
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Sports Analyst 2
It might have been something like that it might have been something like that and I it had to be some issues going on where but somebody might have been arguing or thing because I mean find anybody Week three Come on now.
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Sports Analyst 1
Come on Panthers blown out by the the Panthers blew out the Falcons 30 to nothing. Michael Pennix Jr. Had his worst game of his career young career throwing two interceptions. He hasn't thrown a touchdown to a receiver or a tight end this season in fact he has only one touchdown pass this season. That's the Bijan Robinson. Oh I mean look we've all had receiver coaches. I'm just trying to figure out how much can a. A receiver coach be responsible for the offense.
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Sports Analyst 2
He's not. He's not. He's not responsible for that. Absolutely not. He has one job to do that's the coach receivers make sure you get from point A to point B as fast as you can and catch the goddamn ball.
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Sports Analyst 1
That's it.
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Sports Analyst 2
That's all he can do. And make sure you're well prepared knowing the game plan and what you got to do.
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Sports Analyst 1
Yeah. I'm shocked.
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Sports Analyst 2
That's why. That's why I know it had to be something else. Something must have went on that sideline that or or maybe behind closed doors where it didn't sit well and they let brother but brother Hill you go the the great I just mentioned the other night too when we talk about the Gatoraders.
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Sports Analyst 1
Yeah. I'm g tell you this there gonna be a lot of other people fired that quarterback don't start playing better. Oh yeah I hear you might have been the first to go but let that quarterback dust that play better quarterback coach the offensive coordinator.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah. Matter of fact now now you Mr. Blank gonna now you got me curious. I want to know why he was fired. I'm finna be nosy to be nosy.
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Sports Analyst 1
Because we thought the Falcons were going to be good. I'm not saying I'm, I I not for a second oo I thought they were going to the super bowl but I thought they would be better than what they were last year. You look at the weapons that they got. They got Knight, they got Mooney and they got Drake L. Drake, London, Drake, London.
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Sports Analyst 2
Kyle. Kyle Pitts.
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Sports Analyst 1
Kyle Pitts. Ray.
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Sports Analyst 2
Ray McLeod.
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Sports Analyst 1
Ray McLeod. They got Bijan, Robinson. They got Alier. They got a nice little. They got a nice little squad. Offensively good weapons with those weaponry. You can't get shut out with those weaponry. Nah, but if your quarterback play like some stir fry, you can. Yeah, he played bad late with the buck, bro. You know you, bro. How you gonna stay. How you gonna be on this side looking at this half of the field right Then all of a sudden come back and throw to the flat blind?
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Sports Analyst 2
Nah, you can't do that. That's going the other way. That's going away. That's going the other way every time. If anything. If, if anything, you read 1 and 2. If 1 and 2 ain't there, then you go to the flat right away because if you take any more time than that. The corner they was. They was in two. The corner he dragged.
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Sports Analyst 1
He ain't going nowhere anyway. No, he ain't got. He ain't got nothing to threaten him deep. So why. Why would he go deep?
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Sports Analyst 2
Exactly. Exactly. It sure wasn't so.
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Sports Analyst 1
And yeah, I, I don't get. I don't. I don't get this one. This is. This, this move befuddles me.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah.
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Sports Analyst 1
Because I've never heard. Like I said, not. Maybe something happened. We don't know all the intricacies of what transpired on. Something had to have happened. Ain't no way you believe that. You got shut out 30 to nothing, and that responsibility falls on the receiver's coach, the receivers coach.
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Sports Analyst 2
Hey, I. Ike might have cussed Mike. Ike might have cussed somebody out now. He might have cussed out the officer coordinator.
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Sports Analyst 1
Okay, now maybe, maybe, maybe that makes sense.
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Sports Analyst 2
Probably taking up.
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Sports Analyst 1
Even if he did curse him out after two weeks. I mean, after three weeks. I mean, this, this is where we are right now.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah. Somehow.
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Sports Analyst 1
So that. Now you said we're in a panic mode. Yeah, you, you, you. You set us up for panic when we shouldn't be panicked. You should be calm.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah, you're right. Shoot. I'm nosy. I just. I just text Ray Ray. She like, what, What. What happened? Boy, I'm nosy.
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Sports Analyst 1
Yeah, this doesn't. This, this is. I'm surprised by this. I didn't think Atlanta was a Super bowl contending team, but I did think they would be much better than what they did, what they showed last year. And it's not a good look, Ocho, with a guy that, you know, your starter, you Three in week three. You already had to put him on the. You had to say, nah, son, we've seen enough. Yeah, that's not good.
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Sports Analyst 2
Nah. And you let. You let him go out on the sword too, Uncle. Yeah, for sure you let him go out on the sword, especially once you've already made that move that you are our quarterback of the future. There's no reason that Kirk Cousins should be going in that game. No, none at all.
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Sports Analyst 1
Unless not cousin believe that he got a chance to get back in there, basically.
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Sports Analyst 2
And he's a good. And Kurt is a good sport for actually going in the game.
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Sports Analyst 1
He is. I mean, what I mean, hey, first cousin ain't trying to give him no money back. Why am I going to get, you know, conduct detrimental by not going back into the game? And they get takes of my money. I'm going to get all this money. You know how much Cousins has made?
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Sports Analyst 2
Oh, yeah, about three.
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Sports Analyst 1
I ain't getting y' all none of that back.
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Sports Analyst 2
3:30 and some change.
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Sports Analyst 1
Yeah, I, I ain't giving y' all none of that back. I'm gonna get all that. And matter of fact, y' all still owe me about 1012 next year. Gonna get that too. Might get some more. Yeah, this. This makes no sense. Oo look, like I said, we don't. We didn't think the Falcons gonna be world beater, but we saw some of the promise that they showed last year at the end of the season when, when Penck came in, guys were getting the ball and you know, so much, you know, talking to Kyle, he seemed very excited.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah.
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Sports Analyst 1
As a matter of fact, when we had the tour. Well, that was last year when Raheem, we talked to Raheem, but we, we still thought that they were going to be good. We thought they were going to be really good this year. You know, Pennies was talking about, you know, hey, he's looking for Cal and you know, we got Drake, London, we got Mooney and we got Ray Ray and we got. We know we got some weapons. We got Bijan, who's a dual threat. He can catch it. We can run it. X, Y and Z alier good power back. I this, this moves. Makes. This move makes no sense to me at all. Car's running back James Connor will undergo surgery on his foot and will miss the rest of the 2025 season. How big of a loss is this?
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Sports Analyst 2
Ooh, man, it's a big loss. It's a big loss. Marvin Harrison Jr. Didn't have a very, very good game.
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Sports Analyst 1
You gotta, you Gotta. Gotta have a problem with the drops. Got the yes right now, Ojo.
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Sports Analyst 2
Now. Now you got, you got your. You got Connor out. He's gone. He. He's your bail cow now. That put more pressure on Kyler Murray. More pressure on Kyler Murray. Knowing Marvin. Knowing Marvin Harrison Jr. He gonna bounce back. He gonna bounce back. All it is, uncle. You have like this. He a lot of hat. Okay. I haven't had a game like this, but I've had games where I've dropped the ball before. And all it is going back to practice, looking the ball in, starting over like you're a little kid, looking the ball in every time. Find the laces, catch the laces. Don't take your ass out the ball. Make sure you got it secured. And, and then, and then just go. Yeah, and get yourself.
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Sports Analyst 1
You think you're trying to do too much, Ocho.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah, that's it. Taking it about taking his eyes off the ball.
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Sports Analyst 1
That's.
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Sports Analyst 2
That's all it was. And it's easy, too. The most difficult passes to catch are the ones that's wide open where you wide. Where you wide open, man. You take your ass off the ball trying to make a play before you secure it. That's all.
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Sports Analyst 1
He wide open, and he know the guy gonna be coming at a rate of. A high rate of speed. So he like, man, I make one move and you made the move, and the ball's on the ground. So it don't matter if you made a move, made him miss, Right? Yeah, it's tough. Yeah. James Conner, he was the bell coy. I think he went to the Pro bowl last year. Runs hard, can catch the ball out of the backfield, but he's really the bell Cow running back. I don't know who his backup is, but it just, it puts more emphasis on, as you mentioned, on Calla in that passing game.
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Sports Analyst 2
Right?
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Sports Analyst 1
It's. It's tough. I mean, you hate to see a guy, you know, because, you know, we've been there. We know we put in to make sure we try to stay as healthy as we possibly can. We. Once the season start. And here we are, you know, three weeks into the season, and we're done for the year.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah, that's crazy.
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Sports Analyst 1
Done for the year, man. That's. That's only. That's happened. I mean, I, I, I broke my collarbone in week four, and I was done for the year, and I was miserable. Damn.
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Sports Analyst 2
Huh? Boy, you done broke. Boy, you done broke everything. Jesus.
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Sports Analyst 1
I have fractured my eye socket and missed the last three games. Of the season. Dislocated my elbow. Missed four games of the season. Sprained a knee ligament.
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Sports Analyst 2
Hey, listen, if I played with you, wouldn't. None of that happened. If we was on the same team, you wouldn't have had no injuries. Your shoulders would have been straight. Your knees, your ankles, all that. The ankles. You had to keep getting them ankles shot up. Wouldn't have been no problem. No problem. You would have been straight.
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Sports Analyst 1
Man, my shoulders, man, I just caught a pass and rest his. Old Dave Dorris, and I called it.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah.
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Sports Analyst 1
Separated my shoulder when I fell on this one, and then he fell on top of this one and separated the other one.
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Sports Analyst 2
Listen, I would have to.
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Sports Analyst 1
Both of them.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah. I would have popped the boy right back in place for you on the sideline. Hey, take this. Pop the back. I would take this toward all. Put this harness on, and you're good to go.
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Sports Analyst 1
Now, I wear no harness, but. But I just. That was like the last. Like the last preseason game.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah.
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Sports Analyst 1
And then I missed practice. Shot the shoulders up that Sunday.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah.
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Sports Analyst 1
Played as long as I could and then made a. I'm trying to think. I cracked back on somebody.
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Sports Analyst 2
Oh, no, no, I forgot. You took Ronnie Lott.
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Sports Analyst 1
Yep. That thing went numb.
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Sports Analyst 2
It was a rap that they were.
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Sports Analyst 1
Hanging out the bone, and you hit.
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Sports Analyst 2
That helmet like this.
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Sports Analyst 1
Oh, I couldn't do that. I couldn't even do that. Yeah. Hey. I was like, oh, come.
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Sports Analyst 2
Come get me.
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Sports Analyst 1
Come get me. What's what, Greek. Steve Antonops was our trainer. What is it? Sharpie said, greek, I'm done. He said, can you ra. He like Sharpie.
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Sports Analyst 2
Can you.
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Sports Analyst 1
Can you raise? No. I'm gonna tell you before you even ask. The answer is no.
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Sports Analyst 2
Right?
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Sports Analyst 1
Can you squeeze my hand? No. Can you? No. So, Ocho, I'm just going ahead and. Greek, I will prepare you for everything that you gonna ask me. I can't do it already.
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Sports Analyst 2
No, I can't do it.
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Sports Analyst 1
Yeah. Can you push my hands out, Ocho, you know, push my hands out like this? Can you push your hands in? I can't do none of that. Yeah, so I just. Yeah. I just feel bad because, man, you put so much. You put so much time in that, you know, then I. Yeah, I fractured my orbital bone, Ocho. And so they. They, they. For a week, they had my eyelid. Had my eyes closed, so my eyelids shut, had to sit up. Oh, man, it was. Oof.
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Sports Analyst 2
Damn.
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Sports Analyst 1
And you go talk about. I need to be. Man, please. Who.
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Sports Analyst 2
What happened?
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Sports Analyst 1
No, you talking about, man, you gotta live. You gotta do some adventure, man. I ain't trying to have nothing else broke at my age.
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Sports Analyst 2
You do the stuff we gonna do. The stuff that we gonna do that's adventurous is not stuff that can cause you to re. Injure anything that's happened to you. I'm gonna be doing all the dangerous stuff. You just gonna be there for moral support.
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Sports Analyst 1
Okay?
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Sports Analyst 2
That's all.
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Sports Analyst 1
Can I, can I, can I, can I like video. Can I watch from here?
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Sports Analyst 2
Nah, nah. How the nah, man, we supposed to be. We like Tom and Jerry, man. You gotta be out in the field with me.
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Sports Analyst 1
Okay. I can see Jordan.
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Sports Analyst 2
Nah, nah. Jordan the cameraman.
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Sports Analyst 1
I know. That's why I'm gonna see Jordan and Jordan can send it back to me. I can be watching like. Yeah, that's gonna. That's a good shot there, Jordan. Keep it on.
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Sports Analyst 2
Hey, we. It's so. It's so much stuff. It's so much stuff that is untouched. I'm telling you, when it comes to creating content that we can do that nobody else is doing. We can go hang gliding. We go deep sea diving.
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Sports Analyst 1
We go. When do we have time to do that?
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Sports Analyst 2
In the off season.
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Sports Analyst 1
Okay.
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Sports Analyst 2
Nightcap. The adventures of Unc and Ocho. Man, we had about. We had about 100, 200,000 people watching, man. I'm telling you. Go, go kart racing. Go Shark diving.
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Sports Analyst 1
Few days after coach prime said the Jags aren't using Travis Hunter enough. Liam Cole said Travis Hunter role on offense won't expand. Take a listen to what he had to say.
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Coach or Team Official
Oo, yeah, he's one right now. One position on offense and one position on defense. So that doesn't really fully change. It's just more the next guy having to go and adjust to go play some Z, which is what happened in the game. So, no, I don't think it changes much. And that's not going to change until.
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Commercial Voice
After the season where he'll be.
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Sports Analyst 1
He'll spread his wings a little bit on offensive.
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Coach or Team Official
Yeah, I think it's fair right now to say, hey, dude, go learn Z and x and 12 and this and that. It's like, man, we got to make sure he can really go and execute what we're asking them to do first and foremost, which is play F and play corner. So I think as we go and as he goes, I got to believe that it'll continue to do this.
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Sports Analyst 1
So that's why we see more Parker when the goes down. So more opportunities for Parker. He was very transparent with us about two drops. You said he had great practice. Last week, expectations for his usage.
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Coach or Team Official
Yeah, I think, you know, I have not lost any confidence in Parker by any means. You know, stuff happens. It's not obviously, something that we're excited about in the moment, but, you know, he took full. He takes a lot of responsibility and accountability. He works his tail off every single day. Practice. Like. Like I said, he literally had his best week of practice last week as a Jag since we've been here. So, you know, there's a lot of confidence. Really, the message to him is, dude, like, we got to just move forward, man.
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Sports Analyst 1
I agree.
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Sports Analyst 2
Yeah.
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Sports Analyst 1
I mean, me, I always thought, oh, he would be better served playing defense and then have packages for him on offense. I mean, but everybody. Everybody want the managers, hey, we go just throw him in there and let him play, bro. This ain't college. I don't care what anybody says. I don't care how many snaps he played and how great he was. This is the best of the best. There's a reason why they stopped doing that in the 60s. There's a reason. So to ask this man. And see, I'm not concerned. Oh, there have been a lot of guys that can play both ways, but can you play them at an elite level? Because that's what it comes down to. You see Troy Brown played offense and defense. You saw Julian Edelman play it in spurts. But can you play it at the level? Can you hold your own against Jamar Chase? And then can you go beat Pats or Tan on a consistent basis? Can you beat Stingley on a consistent basis? Can you beat Sauce Garner on a consistent basis? Okay, can you D up Jetta? Can you D up Neighbors? Brian Thomas Jr. Chase, can you do that? So this notion about, oh, he can do that. He can do that. I want to see him do it at an elite level on both sides of the ball. And the coaches said there'll be a time for that. Let the guy get used to the system.
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Sports Analyst 2
He's not there yet. Obviously, this is. This is. This is the best thing.
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Sports Analyst 1
But everybody talk about they. They misusing him. They're not misusing him.
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Sports Analyst 2
I think they just bringing them along slowly. Not just throwing them, not throwing to the fire, throwing them out there to the wolves, allowed him to get acclimated, learn everything so you don't have to think, could you play your best? When it was at Colorado, he already knew what to do. Yeah, that's why he was playing his best.
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Sports Analyst 1
Yes.
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Sports Analyst 2
I don't have to think. I can just go play and react. So once he gets to that point over there in Jacksonville. Then they'll add a little bit more on his plate. Okay, we go, you know, we got this. Okay, he got F. Okay, now we can teach him Z. Add a little more on his plate.
- [59:53]
Sports Analyst 1
Okay, boom, he got Z. Now we can add X.
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Sports Analyst 2
Then defensively, okay, he's a little bit more. He's a little comfortable now. Boom. Maybe we can put him in on first and second downs instead of waiting until third. Just look, just bring them along slow. So I think it's kind of smart. Smart them, the way they're using them right now. I think there'll be certain situations, certain circumstances where they will need that advantage, that mismatch that. That he does create on both sides of the ball.
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Sports Analyst 1
I think the thing is. OO is that, look, you know, when you was a kid and you, like, give me some. No, eat what's on your plate. Let him eat what is on his plate. Let him get this position. Let him master that. And then as he starts to master that, I don't care what anybody says. Pro offenses are more complicated than college offenses. Pro defenses are more complicated than college defenses. That's just the way it is. And the athletes are better. Just better. I don't care. Look, and the sec. We believe the SEC and the Big Ten is as close to NFL as we get. Guess what? There are a lot of guys in the SEC and the Big Ten that don't make it in the NFL. All those guys that come out there on Sunday, they made it. And there are a lot of guys that played in the. That played in the conferences that didn't make it. So you're talking about the best of the best. And that's the thing, Ocho. It's not enough for him to just say, I played both sides of the football. People want to see. He won the Heisman Trophy because he was elite on both sides of the ball.
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Sports Analyst 2
He.
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Sports Analyst 1
If he's not elite on both sides of the ball. Oo what are we doing? Let's be all the way. Real chat. What are we doing? The thing about the suv. Oo that's what made the SUV so popular. Oo I can h my kids in it, and I can pull up to a. I can go, hey, I can be in the carpool line or. Or I can go to. I can go to a black tie dinner. I can do both. I can drive in the summertime. Hey, I can be at Miami and drive my suv. But guess what? I can go to Minnesota and also do it. So if I. If it if it doesn't give me that kind of value, what are we doing? O.J.
- [62:10]
Sports Analyst 2
You'Re right. But, but another thing, too, also. You took him so high, right?
- [62:16]
Sports Analyst 1
You traded Ocho. You traded up to get it right.
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Sports Analyst 2
So we going into week four now, I understand it's a long season, but what you add on to that plate, we need to keep on, we need to keep on adding and, and see that a little bit more week to week.
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Sports Analyst 1
And I think that's what they're gonna do. Ocho, I mean, I think he played. This was the first time that he played more defense than he played offense, but I think he was still around 60 plays. They just, we just haven't seen him get in the end zone. We haven't seen him get any interceptions, which we routinely saw at Colorado. Man, this is this the NFL. Y' all realize this the best of the best. This is the top. 0,00, 0.1%. That's what that is, bro. I, I, I don't think, I don't think people get it. I, I, I don't. I, I think the thing is that people just, people actually thought Ocho, he was going to just walk in there and do what in the NFL, what he did at Colorado. And then if you say Ocho, like, man, Ocho said, I got 11 years of this thing, man. That thing ain't that easy. I got 14. I said, man, it's not that easy. Oh, y' all hating? No, we're just telling you we're what it's going to take to play at that level. They didn't even, Time didn't even play both ways. And time was as talented as anybody that's ever stepped foot in the NFL.
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Sports Analyst 2
Greatest of all time.
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Sports Analyst 1
I mean, time, they had a package. Time was a. Did what he did defensively, and then he would come in with a package. Now he played a little bit more when M. I think Michael got hurt one year or the number two receiver got hurt, and so he played more.
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Sports Analyst 2
Same thing with Champ. Same thing with Champ in Washington.
- [64:10]
Sports Analyst 1
Yes.
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Sports Analyst 2
Same way.
- [64:12]
Sports Analyst 1
Yep. But for me, personally, I don't think they're misusing Trav. I think they're building him up slowly and slowly and keep putting more and more on his plate. And the more he can eat, the more he can digest. And we'll just keep going, like, going like that until we build it out. We, we don't need a this thing. We don't need to build this overnight. We don't need to try to have him learn X, Y, X Z F. We don't need him to do all that. Hey, you got the slot. Oh, you playing. Oh, you, you playing. You playing outside, you playing inside, you playing dime. We don't need to do all that, Ojo. There'll be a time that it'll be second nature, but I'm sure there's a lot going on in this place. But it's hard, Ojo. It's hard because to get good at something, you do it all the time, over and over. It's repetition. Yeah, it's repetition.
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Sports Analyst 2
And the funny thing, so he go.
- [65:06]
Sports Analyst 1
From a standing split to now he's in a backpedal.
- [65:08]
Sports Analyst 2
And the funny thing, he won't be the Travis Hunter we're used to seeing that we saw in Colorado. He won't be that into the NFL until he knows everything. He's still thinking. He's still thinking. I know it's football at the end of the day, but he's still thinking. It's your rookie year, you're going into week four, you're still thinking. So they're putting you in advantageous positions where you don't have to think. You just got to play. That's why you play. That's why your plate is so small right now. So all you have to do is just play and let your God given ability and what you've learned so far take over.
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Sports Analyst 1
Yes. I mean, give him a year two, let's see where he's at halfway through the season. Let's see where he's at at the end of the season. Let's see where he's at in year two, year three. And it's so funny, but in order, in order for this to make sense, he's gonna have to be lead on both levels. Cause you took him so high. You took him with the number two pick in the draft. Number two pick in the draft is supposed to be franchise altering. Yeah.
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Sports Analyst 2
And they can't.
- [66:08]
Sports Analyst 1
No matter what position, no matter what position it is, he's supposed to be franchise altering.
- [66:13]
Sports Analyst 2
He can't use him in that position yet because franchise, franchise altering is usually held for the quarterback position outside of elite skilled players. At most of the time it's a receiver, receiver, DB, but then DBs come around every so often. But receiver, quarterback, or running back. Franchise altering. But his plate isn't full enough for him to be franchise altering right now.
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Sports Analyst 1
Correct.
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Sports Analyst 2
It's not.
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Sports Analyst 1
It's hard. I mean, it's, it like I, I don't envy him. I understand that he wants to do things that nobody's ever done. And it's been a long time since we got had a guy that this talent. We saw Champ Bailey do it. Miles Jack did it as a running back and a linebacker at ucla. But it ain't easy. It ain't easy to be elite because with the number two pick, you're supposed to be elite. And he wants to be elite on both sides of the football. Now, you know, you asked time, Time said, look, had I had I devoted what I devoted to being a wide receiver like I devoted to DB Ain't no question in my mind I get a Gold jacket as a wide receiver. And I believe it. I believe it because he was just so. He was just so gifted.
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Sports Analyst 2
He.
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Sports Analyst 1
God just gave that man so much ability. But people see a lot of times, Ocho, when God gives somebody ability, they make it seem like they don't work. Time worked. Time study. But see, you like man God. No, no. Yes, God blessed him. But the greatest are when God blessed you. And you're the hardest worker. You get a Tom Brady, you get a Deion Sanders. You get a Kobe Bryant, you get a Michael Jordan, you get a LeBron James, you get a. You get a Griffey Jr. That's what you get. You get a Barry Bonds, you get that. That's what you get when you take a Tiger Woods.
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Sports Analyst 2
Serena.
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Sports Analyst 1
Serena Williams. That's what you get when God kiss you with God given ability and work ethic.
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Sports Analyst 2
You dangerous, boy. You dangerous. And the funny thing about it is, he already. He got the work ethic, too. Not only do we have the worth ethic, but he goddamn believe he can do it. He believed he could do it.
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Sports Analyst 1
That's part of it.
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Sports Analyst 2
That's. I was just gonna say that that's part of it. Once you believe you could do something. Oh, sh. Boy, it's up.
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Sports Analyst 1
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Sports Analyst 2
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Sports Analyst 2
Allow us to introduce you to Lee.
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Sports Analyst 1
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Sports Analyst 2
On the tail of his latest conspiracy. This time, his most recent expose puts.
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Sports Analyst 1
Him head to head with a powerful family that rules Tulsa. Meaning only one. He must be onto something big. FX is the Lowdown. All new Tuesdays on FX stream on Hulu.
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