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Hello, it's your favorite sports unc here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you, so please subscribe or you're gonna make Ocho cry. Ocho. The Seattle Seahawks beat the Patriots by the score of 2029-13. Seattle defense dominated this ball game. They sacked Drake May six times, picked him off twice and forced the fumble. And yeah, I don't know if you notice Ojo, but if you cannot run against Seattle, you can't beat him because they're going to play quarters coverage well, keep the safeties back and then just, just hawk you with your front seven. And Mike McDonald saw something earlier. If you notice. He brought a lot of slot pressure. Witherspoon. Yeah, even worry. Yes, they brought that pressure. And Drake May, it got to him. But because when he wasn't expecting pressure, they brought it when he was expecting pressure, they backed up out of it. And what it caused him to do is make some errand throws when he had guys open. This game should have been over a long time ago. Sam Darnold did not play his best ball. He left some plays on the field. Lo on the third down, he missed Cooper Cup. He that Jackson Smith and Jigba should have walked in the end zone at that post. He was late. He throw it on his back here. Oh, great. Great jump by Gonzalez. The ball was late. If he throws that like he supposed to, that's a, that's a walk in touchdown. But anyway, anyway, 29, 13oo. What did you like about what you saw from Seattle from start to finish?
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I mean start to finish down on defense. I, I said, I said it. I said it from the beginning. The games, games like this are one in the trenches. It starts with the defense. Listen, offense, it put butts in the seats. But defense win championships and that's why the game was won tonight by Seattle. I think offensively, Seattle didn't do much in the first half, but hell, neither did the offense of New England. They didn't do anything. The game was close enough and they've had opportunity. Drake May and that offense had opportunities to make it a game, but they just couldn't do anything offensive because the defense plays so damn well. I'm not sure who the center, the guard and the left tackle are for the goddamn New England Patriots. They need to get into the weight room this offseason. Get into the weight room this offseason. I even tweeted that. I tweeted at halftime at the half, if you're going to do anything outside of the quick game play or five step drop, you need to help the left guard. You need to. You need to help the center in the best way you can because they are getting obliterated in anything outside of three step drop. And listen, offensively, the Seahawks didn't get going. They had a play here and to play there, and things didn't open up until the second half and they ran, they ran away with the game.
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Yeah, the thing is, it's hard to go play. The thing is, Ocho, they couldn't run the football. And once you can't run the football because the corners are really good, they're going to break on anything underneath and they know you don't have time to throw it deep. So now you're up against it. You're right. That left side of the line for the Patriots is not very good. Will Campbell with a high draft pick, and I don't know if it's injury, but he have a problem with speed, guys. And he has a guy that converts speed to power. Because if you look at it, Mocho, when guys, when he sits on the bull, the guys still go by him. I'm like, well, hold on. You just sat happy. You know he's gonna come with the bull and he still runs you over.
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Yeah, you gotta, you gotta anchor down. I don't.
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That's what I'm saying. The whole show, he anchored and they still. He gotta get. He gotta do some squats, he gotta do some squads, he gotta do some power clean. Cause right now, hey, they just. Hey, boy, they going through him like foreign water through a tourist. And I'm like, bro, you gotta get. Hey, you gotta get stronger. It's not good enough. He's a liability. Your left tackle is supposed to be your best. One of your best players. One of your two best players.
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The best, huh? The best. Your left tackle is your money position, is the quarterback's blind side. That's why they make the most money.
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And look, I understand that he's a rookie, Ocho, but if you look at him since he got back, now, he played much better. And I'm going to say, you know what, Ocho, A lot of that might have to do with injuries because he did have a lower leg injury.
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Yes.
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But boy, these playoffs were not kind to him because everybody got an opportunity because all these games are televised and there's only one going on at a time. And so you can see just how bad he was. And he was a liability. He was their worst offensive lineman, followed closely by the left guard. You could have one. You could have one because they work as a unit. The offensive line is never one, but when you got two of a five. A five spoke bike.
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Yeah.
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It's gonna make you look bad, O Joe. It's gonna make you look bad. Yeah.
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Not only that, not only could you. They couldn't hold up in PR protection, but the fact that you couldn't run the ball and that makes you one dimensional. And when you're playing a defense like that, that is all three levels. Hell, the funny thing about the Seahawks, you didn't even have to blitz if you didn't want to because your back end is just that goddamn good. But they decided to blitz and make Dre May unstable. And they. They got to him. They got to him almost every time. In the time that they didn't. When he expected. When he was expecting a blitz and didn't get it, the goddamn throws were airing.
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Because that's what you want to do. You want to speed him up. You want to make him think that we're coming when we're not. And you want to make it where they're not coming and we are. And if you notice, he. They're blissing speed, guys. But so the distance, the time that. And he timed the spoon was timing it up perfect. He was timing it up perfect. I mean, he was hitting the line on a dead run and boom. I give Mike McDonald. He pitched the game. I thought Clint Kubak called a great game. You see the run? They stuck with the run. Stuck with it. Wrong. We're not going to get away from it. Even though. Yeah. Even though we didn't get a. You stopped us in the backfield for a two yard loss. Yeah, we only got two yards, but I'm not abandoning it. I'm not going to put us in a situation where we just throw, throw, throw. Incomplete. Incomplete. And the defense is now. Your office is right back on the field. I'm going to take some time off this clock. But the first half this game was all about K9. He did. He was sensational because at one point I think he had the same amount of yards by himself as the team had because that was it. They did. I thought. I thought the Patriots did a great job on. On jsn. I thought they did a great job. Gonzalez took him some and when they didn't have him, they did a great job of rolling coverage and having people up underneath him. They did a great job on him, but it was just too Much firepower by the Seattle Seahawks. That defense is good as advertised. And when the Patriots couldn't run the football, they were in a heap of trouble because they could get there with four. And when they brought pressure, they. They got there every single time.
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Hey, they got. Damn. There was some, There was some bright spots for the New England Patriots.
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Where were they?
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Obviously the uniform. Christian, Christian Gonzalez. I'm. I'm just saying. I mean, from an individual standpoint, I think if I'm not mistaken, he only allowed may maybe two competions tonight. He had a lot, a lot of.
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Pass that deep, that deep ball to Rashid. Rashid Shahid.
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The timing was impeccable. Impeccable timing. Almost like that past 13 play. If he, if he, if he had maybe another step, he could almost pick that off. Damn near Sam Donald's problem when, when.
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When Pat Green Bay. Yeah, Sam, Donna's probably thinking now, if I throw the second ball like I threw the first ball, that's a touchdown. Because if I put that out there, he runs up under it. This one, if I take a little off it overshowed it. But look, I understand. He's like, man, I just. As long as I don't make a mistake, they can't beat us. They can't consistently go up and down the field and beat us. And I thought he played, I thought he made some plays, but I thought early on he lost some left some plays on the field. That third down play to Cooper cup, you gotta stay. You stay on the field with that. JSN is out. Stay on the field in that, the touchdown. That, that double move that JSN had on Gonzalez. Oh, that's. That's a touchdown. That's gotta be a walking touchdown. You gotta put that in front of him. Cause there ain't no safety. There ain't no safety there.
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Time. The time was off. I'm not sure why the time was off, but the time was off. I'm not sure if he had pressure, he had a hand in his face or whatever it may have been. That's one of those. Once you hit that back foot, the ball got.
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Because first of all, I already know this. He's not bumped, so his timing is not gonna be. And if he bumping, once he gets past the five yard, it's gonna be PI. So your timing is not gonna be impeded. So all I gotta do, I'm in the shotgun. So one step, hey, I take them three steps, that ball gone. Cause I already know JSN got a clean release. There is no safety in the hole. That's a walking touchdown.
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Hey, exactly. All you got to do is put your ball between, put, put your body between the defender and the ball and you good.
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Oh, he got it. He got it. Oh. Cause he, he, I, I don't know how he run about, but he, he running and do this. I'm like, hold on, man. All my needs, I left, I left acl, mcl, pcl, ucl. I left all that on the field. Yeah, but give, give, give Seattle credit. And, and the thing is what you look, once they got past the Rams, the ra. I mean, think about it. And this is another indication that Drake made that Matthew Stafford should have been the MVP. Cause he threw for them to 900 yards against this team.
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Yes.
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With no pigs.
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Yes, twice. Twice. And the funny thing too about it is the, the Rams officer line is much better than that of the Patriot too. So they, he was, he was, he was allowed the time to be able to do so as opposed to, as opposed to the Patriots, who offensive line was shaky all season long. This wasn't talked about because they were winning.
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He dropped 42 on him and then 20. What, 28, 27.
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Yeah.
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In two games. And what you call them had 13 tonight. But Seahawks, Seahawks is good. Do we know who won the MVP yet, Ocho?
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I mean, I, I'm not sure.
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Look, if K9 get it, I mean, they can't get to everybody else. But give it to the whole defense. You can't give it to the whole defense. Yeah, maybe K9. For me it'll be K9 or spoon.
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Right, right.
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K9 or spoon.
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I think Kenneth Walker. Kenneth Walker.
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It'd be crazy if they gave it to the punter because he put, he kept him pin. He put that thing. Hey, he put it out at one. He put it at the half. He put it at the 5.
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Yeah, it should, it should be K9. I'm happy for Sam Donald. Yes, I'm happy. Sam Donald on his journey, how everything started. Being the third, being the third pick in the draft, obviously going to the jets, things not going well in Carolina, things not going well, you know, in San Fran. And finally finding the destination, Minnesota. I'm not, I'm sure Minnesota got to be kicking, kicking themselves and you know what? Got to be kicking themselves and you know, you know what? I'm not sure who makes the decision makings over there. Obviously you understand the purgatory situation that they're in at the quarterback position. And to see Sam Donald go over to a place like Seattle where the structure, the environment Is it's a winning organization and finally get, you know, what we all dream of. You know, we played game for one reason that's to win a championship. And he, and he got him.
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He did. He did. Sam Donald's 19 to 38, 202, one touchdowns, clean game, no interception. He was sacked once. Kenneth Walker, 27 carries, a buck 35. They didn't turn the ball over. 32 carries for a buck 41. No. No receiver went off. They look, they were not going to let JSN beat him. They were not going to let him go. Crazy.
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Yeah.
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But that defense.
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Crazy, crazy. Listen, they're not, they're not the Legion of Boom, but they not too goddamn far off. That's why the moniker that they call them side, they call themselves the Dark side. They're worthy. They're, they're, they're worthy of that moniker being called the dark side.
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Definitely what you call could definitely play for the Legion of Boom. Witherspoon, he definitely could have been, he definitely could have been a starter opposite of Sherm now. Absolutely. They got some hitters. Earl, Earl Kerr was a little bit more ground. Cam was, Cam was more of a thumper. Cam was going to knock you out on that. But they played a different coverage. This team is more quarters coverage, four across the board. And the other team was more of a single high safety, Robber Lurk coverage where Cam was looking to pick off any crossing routes. That's why he was knocking so many tight ends and wide receivers out on that crossing route because he's looking to rob it. So but this, hey defensively, hey, congratulations D. Law. He's like, look, Dallas will always be my home, but I can't get a chip in Dallas. And he goes to Seattle in his first year, he gets a chip. And they leaned on that veteran leadership. Leonard Williams who came on the show. Ernest Jones, the fourth, Julian, I mean, hey, congratulations guy. Very well earned victory. Very hard fought victory. Mike McDonald, unbelievable job. Clint Kubiak called a great offensive game. This was a total of team effort. And you know what? They're going to lose some pieces. They're going to lose some Ocho. But this team, they're equipped to be here for a minute. Now injuries are all best off, all bets off. You lose, I mean, you know you, you lose jsn, you lose one. A key guy like that offensively, you know, all bets are. But I, I love the, I love the way Mac McDonald in two years have built this team. Give a. What's the Schneider give him credit? Hey, give him credit.
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It's not. Snyder's a game. Right.
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And player and. Yeah.
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Hell of a job.
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Yep. You remember 21. That was.
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K9 1.
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Okay. Good deal. Yeah, good deal. Hey, I thought he's gonna get the record. That holding call, man. Ocho, he might have been over. He'd have been close to Timmy Smith 205.
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Yeah, he would. He would have been. He would have been at 170something if he. If they didn't have that holding. Yeah.
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So that's Marcus. That. That'll put him at number two probably Marcus Allen. I think Marcus Allen had 170 something, but man.
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Yeah, it was mean.
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It's the type of game that we thought it was gonna be. Ocho. We knew it wasn't gonna be up and down.
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Yeah, I mean, I, I figured that. But a lot of people were upset. Obviously, me asking the question, what do people think about the first half of the game? They were upset. It's the snooze festival.
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When I was the first time, you remember New England and the Rams was a snooze festival. Well, you know, the Pittsburgh. The Pittsburgh and Minnesota was 2 nothing. Yeah, well, it was 00 at the half against I think New England and the Rams back in Atlanta in 2019.
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Yeah, I'd rather this tonight as opposed to a team getting blown out. And you sit there, sit there through the entirety of the game.
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Yeah, but you never know because the momentum in this game is so funny. In a regular season game, the momentum just swings and swings and swings. But in a game like this, the momentum only swings once, twice. And then how much separation can you get when you have the momentum? Because the other team's gonna get it. And you see. Seattle race out 12 nothing. And they get the. The touchdown. They get the. The fumble and go 19 nothing. And then what you call them scores. The next thing you know, they get a touchdown and then basically the game's over. Yeah, they get. They tack on some. Tack on some cheap yardage. Oo. I mean, Drake, you look at Drake May, if you didn't watch this game, you're like, well, okay, 23 or 43, 295, two touchdowns, two interceptions. But no, there was some ticket. Them. Them empty calorie yards. They pressured him. Six sacks, 43 minus 43 yards. So they lost 43 yards on those sacks. Two interceptions, A for a fumble. So he had a pick that went for a touchdown and he had another fumble that set up a touchdown. But this defense, the defense was sensational. And we've seen this defense, before Super Bowl 48, they did this to the Broncos. Broncos had the number one offense, Peyton Manning, through for 50, 55 touchdowns. The. They averaged, what, 38 points a game, had three receivers go over a thousand yards. Three receivers. I mean, five different receipt players have at least 10 touchdowns, right? Well, Decker and D.T. rest his soul. D.C. both had a thousand yard. Russ Walker had 10 touchdowns, D.T. decker, Julius Thomas had 10 touchdowns. And no S.H. marino had 10 touchdowns. But the Legion of Bull came out and dominated. It took a Herculean effort. It took Tom Brady. Anybody else? Super Bowl 49, they do that again. But that's Tom Brady and Tom Brady vampire. Man, you better drive a steak through that motherfucker. Hard to shoot him with some silver bullets, because other than that, you're gonna.
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Tear your ass up in precious situations.
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He shows up, he's super duper calm. You know what I would like they should have been measure him to see how hard, how calm he is in those situations. You know, situation. Heartbeat goes up, you. They have them on running sometimes, and you see their heart rate goes up. 1501-601701-80190. I wonder what Tom Brady heart rate was in situations like that. It had been very interesting to see, but, man, this was. This was a. Look O.J. i mean, they got 29 points. I can see if the game was like. Like it was in Atlanta. Thirteen to three. That's some bull job, right?
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Yeah, but.
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But you got two. Two very good defenses. I mean, look, New England. The. The offense didn't help New England out. All those three and outs. And that's what happened with the Broncos. The Broncos just made one fatal mistake. They went for it on fourth down instead of selling for the field goal. And it cost them. But the Broncos sacked him five times. He was sacked. Think about how many times he turned the ball over against Houston. And they got away from it. Cause CJ said, well, I'm gonna one up you. I ain't gonna let you. I ain't gonna let you lose this game. Let me help y' all win. Let me throw four picks in the first half. But Seattle's defense, man, God almighty. No, I am.
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They were. They were good. And people were complaining. Oh, the, the, the.
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The.
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The Patriots Officer play calling is bad. It's a snooze fest. They're not doing anything. But I think. I don't think people understand that the goddamn Seahawks defenses.
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The second fewest points.
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17, 17.
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Because I think what you call was one. Houston was one. They were two, Broncos. Were three. Patriots was like, maybe top five. Yeah, they. They, bro. They. They. In. In this age and time, you give up less than 20 points a damn game with the way they call it, the way these off explosive offense. And I mean, you're in a division with the Rams, you're in the division with the 49ers, two teams that can put points on the board. Oh, man. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. They good. They good. They good from the front to back. They D line is good. The linebacker, Ernest Jones iv, is really good. And that secondary is outstanding. I'm talking about outstanding. And you know what, Ocho? They let him play today. Yeah, they let him play. Yeah, they let him play. And that. That's. That's. That's what you wanted.
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Yeah.
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The Patriots offensive line, you gave up 20. In. In. In. In four games, you gave up 21 sacks. You gave up 21 sacks in four games, Ocho. That's five. That's five sacks a game. Five sacks a game. If that's the. If that's a regular season game, that's 85 sacks. Your quarterback will play that year, and then he'll be done.
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It'd be hurt.
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Y' all gotta fix that. You gotta fix that.
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And it's not talked about because you're winning, too.
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Yes, but you. But if you watch them against Houston and everybody's like, well, that's Houston. They do that. Everybody. Okay, you see, they'll get the Broncos. With the Broncos, sack everybody. And you see and see. You let it. You let it go, but ain't nothing you can do about it now, Ocho, we here ain't like we can go out there and get something. Get. Get off it. You can't get Trick Williams. You know what I'm saying? You can't. You can't trade for a tackle. You got what you got. Yeah, but the problem is that when you get to games like this, it gets magnified. Whatever your weakness is, it gets magnified. And the offensive line has been a problem. And they did. I thought they did a great job of getting after Drake. May took off a couple of times, but for the most part, when they. When they. When they. When they got there, they got home, they got him on the ground. Yeah, they got him on the ground. But Witherspoon was sensational. I mean, hey, he don't get talked about enough. He might be the best blessing slot guy I've seen.
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Cause he get.
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Cause he's so out here. They don't really. What does Spoon run. He ran like, what, four two something. Four, two, four three.
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Nah, Woolen ran four two. I think Witherspoon might be four three, though.
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Yeah.
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Not only was he getting home, he was still beating someone in front of him once he got home, too. He had to be. He had to beat somebody one time. I think it might have been the guard of the tackle that somebody was left when he blitzed. It almost. Almost looked like. Damn. Like a double mug.
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It was almost. Because what happened is that he beat the tackle.
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I'm like, he beat the guard at the time, like, well, God damn.
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Well, what happened was, is that seven in the back. In the back took seven and that left Spoon. Yeah, but if you go. If you go watch Spoon, look how fast he closed that. Because he had to be in, say, spoon ran 442 Ocho. And he. When he. When he, like, he stuck his foot in the dirt because what you call was getting ready to throw the ball, hit it. Seven catches, one suit. Perfect. Seahawks general manager John Snyder was already the first NFL exec to construct multiple super bowl rosters with different coaches and zero common players. Now he's built two super bowl champions, two iconic defenses in two separate area eras. He, he, he. He knows what he's looking for. Mike McDonald. Hey, the Ravens defense hadn't been the same since he left because remember, oo after they lost the NFC champion AFC Championship game, he got the job in Seattle. And everybody's like, well, hold on. Damn. Now you see why he got that job.
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Yeah.
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To win the super bowl behind Sean McVeigh and Mike Tomlin, both who wanted. At 36. He's 38.
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38. Yeah. Some. Some coaches have an eye for it. Yes, some coaches eye for it. And it makes your job easier as a coach when you understand what you're looking for and you understand how to put pieces together, the better, the better. The better the hand you play. When you get your cards deal, the better your chances of winning.
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Can you lead men? It comes down, can you lead men? And yeah, the answer is yes, he can. And he's done it. An unbelievable job of leading men. John Snyder's done a great job of constructing this roster, like you said. Think about it.
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Now.
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Everybody. Everybody laughed at him when he. When he. When he moved on from Russ. Oh, y' all gave up on Russ. Blah. Russ still had you like. Nah, I know they believe that Russ was on the downside of his career. They have been proven correct. People laughed at him when they got rid of Gino. Gino. They have been proven correct when they moved on from DK and lock it. They have been proven correct as soon.
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As been everything he has been advertising.
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Yes. And the tight ends, I mean you look at Barna, I mean they got no big name tight ends, but those guys make plays when given an opportunity. And defensively, oh my goodness, it speaks for itself. Oh man. To get Big Leonard Williams to go out in free agency and get D Law and to bring in Jerry Reed and to get Ernest Jones IV to, to. To sign Julia Love when you already got Jamal Adams. Give me credit.
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I. Most of the time you would call it luck when you do it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Most of the time you call it luck when you do it once, but when you do it a second time, you can't.
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Oh, you can't be that lucky and draft Russell Wilson and Richard Sherman and Bobby Wagner and Cam Chancellor and Earl Thomas. You can't be that lucky.
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That ain't lucky.
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You can't be that lucky and go get Curse and Baldwin and Golden Tate. You can't be that lucky. And guess what? In five, six years later, you turn around and do it again, now they ain't looking. Hell no. Hell to the no.
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To say.
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Look, we, we. We believe we are a quarterback away from being a championship team. Because if you look at the pieces, they're there. Yeah, they got a few added D Law, but they've added a few pieces. But for the most part, this roster is what it is it what it was last year. And they believe they were a quarterback away from competing for a Super Bowl. And, and I be damn, they were right.
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B
And the funny thing about it too, if you think about it, you understand how the landscape of the NFL works. You understand for each team to be able to be in contention and, and to be in the conversations of reaching a Super Bowl. I mean all you are is a quarterback away. Now other. There, other there other aspects of it that, that you need as well. The other pieces that you need as well. But the, the foundational piece to even think about playing in SUBO is having a goddamn quarterback. Unless you, unless your defense is all world and even then in today's game, you're gonna need a little help.
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Look, I like Sam Donald. When he came out in 26, I didn't, I didn't know Sam Darner could be there. Well, he wasn't gonna be this in New York, so let me take that back. I thought Sam Donald, I love Sam Donald coming out, especially what he did in the Rose Bowl. I don't know if you remember Ocho, he went crazy. He went crazy. If I'm not. If I'm not mistaken, they was against Penn State. Saquon went crazy, but. But he lost his damn mind.
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Yeah.
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And so I really, I really liked him. But going to the Jets, Tom Brady would have been a bus with the Jets. That's how bad that organization is. Ain't nobody succeeding with the Jets.
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Nobody was bad.
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So with that being said, the best. Sometimes, Ocho, the best thing happen is that you move on. It's like a relationship pocho.
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B
Yeah.
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She wasn't right for him, he wasn't right for her. They get with different partners and I be damn if it ain't happy ever after.
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It happens like that does it?
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Absolutely does. And there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with a relationship not working for two people. And they go their separate work ways and they get with other people and. And I be. I be damn right.
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You know, depending on. You always get a different. You get a different version of someone else depending on who they with. Yes, every version ain't the same, but.
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You are also a different version because you're like, okay, but sometimes we gotta do some self checking now. I mean, I mean, look, I don't. Every time my car start acting up, I'll just take it to the shop. I was like, okay, did I check my tires? Did I run over a nail? Did I hit a pothole? O Cho, hey, so sometimes do some self. You have to do some self evaluating also because it's easy. Like, oh, she ain't want to do nothing. She ain't want to go nowhere. She ain't want to cook, she ain't want to dress up. She always in sweats, a yada, yada, yada. But what about you, cuz? You hit the door and you always. All you do is raise hell. Soon you get home, huh?
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B
Everybody trying to help.
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A
Well, you could pick up too. So a lot of times you have to, you know, self evaluate, like, okay, what could I have done differently? And sometimes you're like, hey, I want this thing. I ain't gonna do nothing differently because I want you to go. But this is. This was. This was an epic season for Moo. They, they, they. Yeah. And that's what you have to. And that's the thing. Oo because you don't know if you gonna get back. Oh, the Broncos gonna get back. Oh, the Patriots. Who said that? Who guaranteed that just because you was good this year. Oh, you automatically think you gonna be good next year?
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B
No, I. I think we. People have been spoiled by the Patriots with Brady, people have been spoiled by the Chiefs and, And. And Patrick Mahomes and, you know, the wizardry they've had. The Eagles, obviously, as. As of late, outside of this season and thinking it's very easy to always get back. It's so difficult. It's so difficult.
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A
This is New England's 12th trip to the super bowling franchise history, but only the third without Belichick as the head coach and Tom Brady at quarterback. The Patriots are not owing three in those Super Bowls. They lost Super Bowl 20. What was that? 35, 10, I think, to the Bears. The 85 Bears, Ocho. They lost Super Bowl 31 to Brett Favre and the packers in 1996. And then they lost, obviously, they. They lost this one with the Seahawks went over the Patriots tonight. Chiefs remain the only team in the AFS to win a Super bowl this decade. Damn. Seattle is the fourth NFC team, alongside the Buccaneers, Rams and Eagle, to win the super bowl in the 2020s. And the thing is, when they get beat, they. Cause last year, what you call them, got the brakes beat off them. The page. The Chiefs got their eyes beat out. They lost to Tampa. Beat their eyes out. Yeah, this one was. Since it did make it close. I mean, that, you know. What was the 2016, Ocho?
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B
Yeah, I thought I forgot. 2116 might be 2116. I'm not sure.
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A
I wonder who the entertainment is for the Seattle. Who did chat. Chat. Do y' all know who the. The. The entertainment is? Because a lot of times. Who performed y' all party, Ocho? You probably didn't even go, which party at the super bowl after the game.
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B
Oh, I'm not. I'm not. Or after.
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A
Or after the game. Man, we know bad money before the halftime. What the hell you talking.
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B
Hey, how'd you like. How'd you like it?
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A
I didn't understand not one word. But the production and the visual effects.
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B
Oh, yeah, the pictures. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it was nice. It was nice. Yeah, it was nice. Yeah. I mean, I could. I'm. I mean, listen, I mean, if you. If you would hit me, I could explain, you know, what he was saying. But it was. It was dope. It was dope. I enjoyed it. I mean, you think a lot of people complaining. Oh, why didn't go back where he come from?
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A
He. America, Puerto Rico, the part of America. Let me ask you a question, Ocho. Where were these people when you two performed? What. What. What part of America are you two from? What about the Rolling Stones. Did the Rolling Stone. Hold on. Chat. Y', all. Look, tell Mr. Rolling Stones there perform. What about Paul McCartney?
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B
Come on, man. Hey, you know, I know you. You know, I know. I just don't understand. I mean, we're all about, you know, cultural diversity and having everyone else having a chance, and we've had every different type of performer at our halftime show. I'm not sure what the problem is. I mean, it shouldn't be a problem. Enjoy. And especially when it comes to Latin music. Listen, if you don't understand the words. Hey, forget not knowing the words. It's a vibe. Enjoy.
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A
No matter what you think of him, he's the most popular artist in the world. The NFL is trying to go global. I don't know if you notice, but look at those games. Where they got games at next year? Nine of those games. They in Rio, they in Australia. They all over the place.
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B
Hey, I was in here jamming, boy.
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A
Hey, I. I look at the visual. I say, okay, you. You play it to your heritage. I like that they got the snow cones and they got to play a dominoes and the women getting the nails done. I was like, okay, I'm feeling it.
- [32:18]
B
And the funny. And the funny thing about it, if you notice all the flags. If you notice all the flags, they pay tribute to everybody.
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A
I'm watching.
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B
They paid everybody. If. If. I'm not sure.
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A
I mean, if I. I'm tell you what I hate, because they quickly. They quick. If they don't like something to say, okay, boycott this. We're not gonna watch. We're not gonna watch. But if somebody outside of this boycott something, they say, get that Un American. Get them out of here. Well, if you ain't like Bad Bunny, leave. Anybody that didn't like Bad Bunny, leave. That's what. That's. That's. That's their favorite quote.
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B
Yeah, yeah. You know. You know me, my taste in music. I mean, my genre and taste in music. I'm. I'm all over the place. I like. I like Bad Bunny. Hell, I like Lyndon Skynyrd.
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A
I don't give a damn. They had the Easter Bunny. I'm watching halftime show. I don't give a damn. I'm watching it. So what. What am I supposed to. I get it, Ocho. It's the biggest stage. I'm gonna watch. Because, look, it's regular season game, Ocho. We ain't nobody watching on halftime. I mean, how many times do I need to see a dog catch a Frisbee? A monkey ride a dog, a. A A, a small kid, 4 and 5, 6 years old, playing football. I'm cool.
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B
I see juggling when it comes, when.
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A
It comes to a halftime show at the Super Bowl, I'mma watch it, right? I am.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So I don't care if you didn't like it. I liked it.
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B
Yeah, I, I did. And speaking of music too, right. You, I'm, I'm so excited. Every time February comes around, I, I, I get happy. Obviously. You know, I went to the World cup draw not too long ago and I tell you. And you know, I haven't missed Andrea Pacelli come to Miami in February in a very long time outside of when Covid hit. That's where I'm going. I'm going to see Andrea Bocelli.
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A
Where?
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B
Guess where I'm going. Where are you gonna see you Rallya.
- [34:09]
A
Oh, you. So you. Oh, he gonna be, he's gonna be in North Carolina.
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B
Yeah, he's in Ralia February 20th.
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A
Damn.
- [34:18]
B
February 20th. He's in Miami. He's, he's in Miami like towards Valentine's Day. But I'm doing some with all the kids they don't like, they definitely don't like that. So.
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A
So that was unbelievable. It was unbelievable. Look, I like the game, Ocho. Yeah. I want, yeah, sure. I mean, I mean, all things being equal, what we want, ocho, we want 29, 28. That have been great too. But you got what you got. You got two outstanding defenses. And the team's other quarterback, he was a second year guy and he looked like a second year guy. And those rookie offensive linemen that they had on the left side look like rookie offensive linemen. I don't know what you expect. Y' all better stop faking there. But just because you got a Patriots uniform on, you gonna be damn Tom Brady, you not. Nah, Tom Brady is one on one. You ain't gonna ever see Tom Brady again. So I hope you enjoyed it. Y' all think what, what the Patriots did was easy? It's not. Tom made it look easy.
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B
I was just gonna say it wasn't.
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A
It's not easy to win, especially on that big stage. And because, and as much as you tell yourself it's a regular game, you are damn fool if you believe that ain't no regular season. Tell me what the regular season y' all gave that. Y' all got two weeks to prepare for and then you leave a week before to get down there.
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B
Right.
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A
You know what this is? I, I, you know, look, I, I was very fortunate. I was in three of these games And I won them all. And I know what it feels like to lose come playoff time. And the further you go, the more it hurts when you lose. That's just the way it is. And if something that matters to a boy, if something matters, if something means something to you, and you put. Invested your hard earned time and effort into it, the more you've invested, the more that it hurts. I can just imagine losing this game. The whole world watching, Ocho. Hundreds of millions of people are watching this game. All your. All your homeboys might not be watching the regular season game, Ocho. They might not be watching the playoff game, but this game, yeah, they gonna watch. They watch it, Ocho. You got all your family. You don't speak buku. Buku money.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Flights. Because I took my family. It was pre. Covid. I mean, pre 9 11. Ticket was high. Giraffe butt. And you got to pay for the hotel, Ocho.
- [36:53]
B
Yeah.
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A
You know, sister in law, all them people coming.
- [37:00]
B
Yeah.
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A
Kids, girlfriend, my cousin. Yeah.
- [37:06]
B
You know, it hurt worse especially to be a patriot, right? To have us like you had. And then jog back to all the work you put in. Training camp, all season, program, mini camp, going into the season, having a great season. Starting off one and two, even starting off one or two, doing what's necessary to have a winning season, getting through the playoffs and getting to the big dance and all the work you put in not. Not turning into what you wanted it.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Falling. That has to be the worst. And there's no guarantee you. You can get back to this point again. There's no.
- [37:45]
A
No guarantee whatsoever, Ojo. No guarantee. And if you played this game, you understand it. You understand just how fortunate you are to be in this position. And that's why I say, look, guys, I don't need you to be the reason why we win, but I don't need you to be the reason why we lose. Understand what this game is for. This game is for you. The festivities, man. We won the game, Ocho. I think. I think we might have stayed to the party, man. We was out. We wanted everybody to see us, you know, you know, I. Green. Cause we the first one, Ocho, you know, Green Bay, you know, they had just won the super bowl the year before, and they come back, they got the reigning Super Bowl MVP on the team. They tried the big boys. We see them out, you know, we see about. Hey. Hey, guys. How y' all doing? Yeah, good game. You know, I think, you know that. Would you do. Won't you that what you do? You good Game. I ain't get a chance. I ain't get a chance to tell you. Cause they roped the field off y'. All. Had to get y' all ass off the field so I would get take time now. Good game, fellas.
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B
Yeah, good game.
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A
See y' all next year. Well, we gonna be back in here next year. Y' all won't, right? Oh, yeah. But Seattle to the victor go to spoils. So whatever they say, ain't nothing you can say. I mean, I can just imagine that press conference after with Ocho. They get you okay. All right. You got to go to the podium and they ask you all the questions. What happened? You watch the game? They had 12. They call them the 12. I felt like they had 12 men on the damn field. They call them the 12 for real. Bad Bunny's halftime performance. This was incredibly cool. A source familiar with Bad Bunny's performance thought, it tells me a lot that the couple in the halftime show got married. For real. They invited Bad Bunny to their wedding, and in turn, he invited them to get married. During his halftime performance. I was like, well, damn. I didn't. Obviously, I didn't think it was real.
- [39:46]
B
I thought it was a part of the performance because it transitioned so well with everything that was going on, you know, I mean, her acting surprised and him getting on his knee. I thought it was part of the choreography.
- [39:58]
A
I'm looking. I was like, well, damn, that was real.
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B
That's cool.
- [40:01]
A
Where they get all this stuff from? I see why it took him so long. This was the longest game. The game was like four hours old, Joe.
- [40:09]
B
Like the halftime show.
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A
I was like, well, look, like I said, I didn't. I didn't understand one word he was saying.
- [40:17]
B
Right.
- [40:18]
A
Production and visual effects.
- [40:21]
B
Visuals, yeah. The video. Very good, Very good.
- [40:24]
A
And around the world, I understand what the. What the. The NFL is trying to do. He's the most popular singer in the world. No matter what you think of him, he is American. Last I checked, Puerto rico was a U.S. territory. So they get U.S. citizenship. Last I checked. I mean, I could be wrong. My history major, you know, my history minor and. And might be failing me right now, but at last I checked, it was a. A territory of the US and they get citizenship. With that being said, man.
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B
It was dope.
- [41:01]
A
Yeah.
- [41:03]
B
That music like that, man, it. It.
- [41:05]
A
It.
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B
It connects. It connects and brings us all together.
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A
Especially if you want to be a part of it.
- [41:11]
B
That if you have an open mind, too. You got to have open mind. Some people. Some people are really closed minded. Even if you don't understand what he's saying. The music.
- [41:20]
A
That.
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B
The music. You become one with the music and you just vibe. I know you know how to.
- [41:25]
A
Sauce.
- [41:25]
B
You know how to. But y' all thought. Move your feet and just catch the groove and just go. I mean, like, okay, you don't understand what he's saying. So what, you just moved to what you like?
- [41:34]
A
Come on. People that got upset with it. Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg didn't perform at the halftime show. You're gonna. Look, everybody's not gonna. People got upset with Maroon 5 and people got upset with this group and what, Coldplay and.
- [41:48]
B
Bro, you can't make everybody happy.
- [41:52]
A
You're not going to make everybody happy. You're just not. So I. I think the best thing in the NFL is like, look, invite who you think. Look. Yeah, sure. Usher was great. Usher was unbelievable. Yeah, Rihanna, I bet. Look, I. I don't have. Look, I'm gonna watch it. I don't give a damn who Detroit out there. Yes. You can say, come on, entertain. Yeah, but I don't know who, who, who. I just want to know who. Would y' all like to see them perform the halftime show? I know who you want. I know who you want. But y' all mad at her now because she not on y' all side. Taylor, they won't. Yeah, but she not on their side. They talk about boycotting her. Why?
- [42:40]
B
What she do?
- [42:42]
A
They know. They know what to do. They know what she did. But with that being said.
- [42:47]
B
Yeah, so. All right, let's say besides Taylor Swift. Super Bowls in LA next year. Matter of fact, bowl is on Valentine's Day. Super bowl is on Valentine's Day. Next year. The game falls on Valentine's Day. Who would you like, Chad? Who would you like to see perform super bowl in LA next year? Does it have to be someone? Are we gonna. Are we gonna have that argument again? Where New Orleans and everybody wanted Lil Wayne, so now it's in la. Does that mean we want what?
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A
Who performed halftime show last year? I don't forgot that quick.
- [43:18]
B
In Louisiana. Damn. I forgot who it was. I know they were. They was upset. It wasn't the Wayne, because it was. Damn. Hey, Chad, who was a Super bowl performer last year?
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A
I don't know who it was. I forget. Oh, Kendra Lamar.
- [43:40]
B
Oh, that's right. Matter of fact, what about Chris Brown?
- [43:46]
A
Oh, brother. When he let that man perform at the Grammys.
- [43:52]
B
Listen. Okay, you're right, you're right. But I'm just saying, as a performer.
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A
Oh, yeah. For sure. 1,000. Yeah, for sure. Yes. Yes. He entertained it from stuff from. From. Yeah, yeah, I agree. You get. You get no pushback from me.
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B
Absolutely. And he just coming off a tour, one of the highest grossing tours at that.
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A
Well, tell his ass to go back on tour and we bring to see him in la. He lives in la. I'm sure he would love to do it. And the thing is, I mean, you paying for it out your own pocket, huh? I mean, Bad Bunny did him a favor because he don't get nothing out of this. What does he get? He already the biggest artist in the world. Yeah, he had the most popular. He had the most popular album last year. Got another. He most popular right now. So what does he get? Right? Some. You know, some we. You know, like Taylor. What does Taylor Swift get out of this? Beyonce did him a favor because Jay Z is responsible for bringing the. The. But what did she get?
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B
Yeah.
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A
Hey, I mean, I would love. I would love to see Chris Brown perform.
- [45:08]
B
That'd be nice.
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A
I'm trying to. I'm trying to think who. I saw Prince in person in 2000 when he was in Miami.
- [45:21]
B
Hey, you were cutting up in the rain.
- [45:23]
A
I saw Beyonce in New Orleans when the P went out.
- [45:28]
B
Oh, the 49ers.
- [45:30]
A
Yeah.
- [45:30]
B
Yeah, Raven. Raven 49ers game.
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A
But I don't know.
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B
Hey, it don't matter who you pick.
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A
It's got to be some people upset. I'm trying to think. Well, that's on Jay Z. That's why Jay Z get the big bucks to decide who's gonna do it.
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B
You got to make sense.
- [45:54]
A
Maroon 5 in Atlanta ain't make no damn sense.
- [45:59]
B
You don't like Maroon 5 in Atlanta? Hold on. Let's. Stay with me.
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A
Yeah, I like Room five.
- [46:06]
B
Yeah, Room five. Creed Hoover stank, but that's up my alley now. Now we talking. Now you. Now you talking my kind of business. Hey, Chad, y' all know about Hoover Stank? You know about.
- [46:17]
A
Yes, I know, Creed.
- [46:18]
B
Oh, hey, boy.
- [46:21]
A
Now we talking Bruno Mars. Bruno Mars did the Super bowl. Did Super Bowl 48 in New York. So Bruno Mar. Bruno Mars is unbelievable in concert. I don't know if anybody's ever saw Bruno Mars in concert. Bruno Mars is unbelievable. Unbelievable. So I know it's gonna be a topic of discussion tomorrow. A lot of people not gonna like it. It was in Spanish. It was this. It was that. That man could have sung. That man could have sung every song in English. The mere fact that he's from Puerto Rico rubbed some people the Wrong way. That's what that was about.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Oh, Joe, let's check out our. On our super bowl winning tick. Who won our ticket? Ashley Owens, giveaway winner. Check this out. Ocho.
- [47:17]
B
Yeah. Thank you, Nightcap. Thank you, Shannon Sharp. Thank you. Oof. Thank you, Dan Morgan, for sending me.
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A
To Super Bowl 60 for a once in a lifetime opportunity. Congrats to the season. Seahawks on the win.
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B
Hey, that's dope. Hey, that's dope.
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A
Congratulations, Ashley. Glad you had a great time. Glad your team won. Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, thank you for blessing those with those tickets to give away. I'm sure our audience, really, guys, y', all. I. I can't believe we had two guys and y' all stunk it up. Y' all let this lady come up there.
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B
Hey, she killed the answer to her.
- [47:59]
A
She did.
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B
She killed it and explained it in depth so we can understand it. And other. Other two gentlemen. They fumble, man. They fumble. Congratulations to Ash, though, man. That was dope. Hey, we need to do that more often. Huh?
- [48:13]
A
Huh?
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B
We knew that. That more often. We need to do that more often. Giving stuff away to the fans. That's, you know, even.
- [48:22]
A
Even.
- [48:22]
B
Even if we not at a live show like this randomly each night, you know, give away. I. You know, make prizes or just something.
- [48:29]
A
Okay. I don't know.
- [48:30]
B
No TVs, a car, do like Oprah did. No. What you think, Chad? When y' all like that chat.
- [48:39]
A
We ain't got sponsors like Oprah.
- [48:43]
B
Oh, oh, they coming. Don't worry about oh, they gonna come because. Because the product is what it is. The product sells itself. We damn near like Blue Magic in American Gangster.
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A
From seeing goals to the trophi. Sam Darnold is not a Super bowl winning quarterback. How did you feel about Sam Darnold winning the Super Bowl, Ocho?
- [49:05]
B
I was happy on. I was happy because I understand his story. I understand, like, I understand everything he's been through. You know, how it started off going to the Jets. Obviously, most of the time when you go early, the expectations is a huge burden on your shoulder. And then you go to the New York media. You know how it is. They have to deal with the New York media. He's spent three years there. It didn't work out. He had to stop in Carolina. He had to stop in Minnesota. I think the stop in Minnesota was kind of the writing on the wall. I mean, a blind man could see this is the quarterback for us, and they still let him get out the door. I still don't get it. And most of the time. It's all about situations. You go to the right situation with the right people around you, especially organization that is built for winning and has a competent GM and competent structure from top to bottom. This is what you get. What you get. You know, we don't talk about Sam, Donna and the conversation at being top five. We don't talk about him with the. The Joe Burrows, the Lamar Jackson, the Josh Allen, the Pat Mahomes, the Jalen. Hurts. But now we have to. Now he enters those conversations when we talk about some of the better quarterbacks in the NFL. And it's so funny. Not that far removed. We thought he was a bus when he was in New York.
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A
Well, he was. I mean, let's. Let's not sugarcoat it out. He was. He had more picks than touchdowns. Now, I think the thing is. Oo. What's so satisfying for him is that three teams gave up on him. The jets gave up on him. Carolina gave up on him. Minnesota, after he won 14 game, gave up on him.
- [50:32]
B
And the 49ers.
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A
The 49ers. Because they got Brock Pie. I mean, I'm not so. Look, I. I'm not. I'm not. Look, I. I think Sam Darling, he won the super bowl. But I mean, all things being equal, would you take Brock Py. I mean. I mean, Purdy has been. How many. No, he's been to one Super Bowl. Remember, he tore his. He tore his shoulder off the bone. That. In the. In the champ. In the championship game against Philly. Yeah. But it's got to be satisfying to him to be so highly. So highly touted coming out of college and have three teams give up on you and to finally find that redemption. And no matter what, Ocho, I don't care. It takes somebody believing in you. As great as Tom Brady was, it took Coach Belichick believing in him because they kept four quarterbacks, which is unheard of, on an active roster. They kept four because Coach Belichick saw something, say, I just need. He's not ready right now. Right. But I think if we can keep him in our system, I think we got something, guys. I think we got something. He believed in him. Sam Darling just needed somebody to believe in him and get what a competent organization. Ain't nobody thought. Ain't nobody been for. Ain't nobody ever wouldn't. Tell me one person that used the sense descent in a sentence. Jets. Incompetence. Chad. Have y' all ever heard that? No. It's truth and fiction. Truth has to make sense. Fixing has to make sense. This don't. Ain't no way that. Oh, you can't write no script like this. You can't write a script like this now, Ocho. Not like this. Hello.
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B
Not. Not.
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A
You remember you said that part of life I saw. I saw ghost. Huh? What you a scary movie. What you mean you saw a ghost, right? He's scratching his head, his eyes got big. I like. Well, damn. I don't know, cuz football might not be for you.
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B
This was. That's. Listen, if you. If you were to tell the Sam Dory, the Sam Donald story, right? If you didn't watch football, how he got drafted. We went. His success at USC and what happened at New York Line, San Francisco, Minnesota. And then they would think it's a movie.
- [53:22]
A
Yes.
- [53:22]
B
Oh, this is a Hollywood movie. Hollywood movie. I like it. But the fact that this is actually a real story, a redemption story at that is dope. It's dope.
- [53:37]
A
Hey, if you want to be Seattle, you better be able to run the football.
- [53:43]
B
Got to.
- [53:44]
A
You got to be able to run the football.
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B
And it start. It starts up front. If you ain't got them boys up front so you're able to. To run the football, it ain't happening.
- [53:54]
A
No. Oh, who you who deserves more credit? Mike McDonald or Sam. Mike McDonald or Sam Darnold?
- [54:05]
B
Mike McDonald. Yes. But probably Sam Donald because if. If Sam Donald's not there, I don't think they're in the Super Bowl. As great as their defense is. As great as your defense. If you don't have Sarandono, I don't.
- [54:16]
A
I'm lean towards the quarterback also.
- [54:19]
B
Yeah, I don't think you're there. Hell, look at the Broncos defense without quarterback. No Bo Nicks. You see what happens? Bo Nicks gives you your best chance to win. Even though you have a great defense, Bodice goes down. As great as your defense is, you still fall short.
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A
You can't overcome that. It's hard to overcome in up quarterback play. Yeah, it really is, Ocho. And no matter how great your defense is, I mean, I mean, what did Drake May throw for last week, two weeks ago? 86 yards. And they won the game. Yeah, they won the game.
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B
Yeah.
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He made. And Sam Darnold made enough throws. I mean, he was. He. He to go on the road and make the throws that he had to make against San Fran and then, you know, to beat. I'm trying to think who do they beat in the first round of the play in the. In the divisional round of the playoffs. But anyway, and Then to take care of the Rams in the, in the, in the, in the NFC Championship game.
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B
Yeah.
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Kicker date. I mean, look, their special teams were great because think about the special teams, what Raheem Shahid did against the Rams on that Thursday night game. Think about what he did against the 49ers in that playoff game. Think about how many times the punter pinned them down. Think about how many big kicks they. That the kicker made. Their special teams, special team, you know, you don't really think they call them special for a reason. And for the most part, oo you know, we practice them, we give them a little 5, 10 minute spot here or there. We interrupt practice, go and get five minutes. All right. Get y' all ass off the field. And here we come back with offense and defense. Right. You don't really notice them until you get a punt block, one returned on you or things like that. You miss a kick and then you like, man, damn. But Seattle was really, really good. They were great defensively. They got better and better offensively and special teams wise when the, the addition of Rashid Raheed Shahid took their team to a whole different level. Took it to a whole different level. And that was the difference in the ball game tonight. Seattle Drake May, what do you. How do you want to assess his performance?
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B
O Joe, his performance wasn't good tonight. I mean, it wasn't good tonight. It wasn't good tonight. I mean, for the, for the most part, in the playoffs, he didn't really look like himself. He didn't look like the Drake May we've seen throughout the season. Obviously the offensive line didn't play well. Didn't. Didn't make it any better for him, especially being able to pick up the blitz to make sure he was comfortable. They, they made him so uncomfortable being a rookie quarterback. When he did have time, he made Aaron throws, you know, when he had time and he had people open. Outside of that. He's only in his second year. That's the good. He's only in the second year and he showed huge improvements from his first to his second year. So this is a learning experience for him. You know, I know what it takes to get to this point now that I've already been here. I can continue to build the blocks off of this. With the season we've had. I can go back, I can watch film, I can see some things that teams did to me that made me uncomfortable. So when I'm back in a situation like this again, I know how to handle it. When I see certain Looks again. I already know what's coming so I can recall what I've already seen and be and be better prepared for it. So I think he's going. The New England Patriots found their quarterback of the future and I'm sure they will be back in this position again. Especially having Mike Brabel as a coach who set the standard is going to continue that Patriot way that we always talk about of structure and discipline and playing good football on both sides of the ball. So I, they, they're going to be, they're going to be fine. But Drake may, you know, my salute to him, hats off to him because he's, you know, one of the reasons why they even made it to the super bowl to begin with.
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I agree with you. But they need to go get him a big time receiver. He's not to the stage right now. Oo he's only 23 on the second year where he can elevate people. He need a big time receiver that can help elevate him right there. Look, you don't realize how special a guy has to be to raise the temperature in the room. Ain't a whole lot. Ain't a whole lot of guys that you can say, you can put him on the team and say, okay, he make this team better. Right? Go get him some help. The guys you got, they're fine. Go get your student. If you can go trade for AJ Brown, go get it. I call the Cowboys. What y' all want to do with George Pickens? We'll give you a cup. Go get it. Yeah, I don't, I don't know who's available on the free agent market as far as wide receivers. Ocho, maybe there's a guy I don't know a whole lot about what's, what's available in the draft. But they need one, right? They need one. They do. They got guys. Tom can win with guys, right? Everybody can't just win. That's what I would go get. I think defensively they're good. I like Chase on. I like Milton Williams, like Barmore Jennings. I don't know what they're gonna do with Jennings. He's solid, very good, very good at a run defender. I'll go get me. I'll go get me another pass rusher too. You can't have enough of them, Ocho.
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B
Yeah, pass rushes. Oh, listen, the better depth you have, I mean the, the better depth you have, especially as pass rushers and you can keep them boys fresh and always rotating. That's. That's a beautiful thing.
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And Offensive line, you guys got to get better. Look, you. You took Will Campbell with a top five pick, if I'm not mistaken. I think he's a top five pick. Ocho. No, he's top 10, but he's got to get better. That's not good enough. Yeah, that's not good enough. And like I said, I'm. I'm gonna chalk a lot of this up because I, I saw him play early and he played better than this and maybe, you know, come back for the stretch run. But Ocho, he had. He had problems with Will. I mean, and look, the guys that he's going up against, they're not slouches. Will Anderson is in the pro. Was an all pro. Bonito was in the Pro Bowl. Those guys that he was going up against tonight, they're very good, but you got to be able to shut. You got to be able to turn somebody's water off. You can't let them beat you up the field. You can't let them turn, generate speed to power and over and overtake you. I know, I hear all the, you know, they talk about, you know, he got little T. Rex arms and stuff, his arms and, you know, he letting everybody get too close. I, I don't know. Nobody's arm. Tunch Elkin was 62 off offensive tackle for the Pittsburgh Steelers unless he had Jon Jones arms, 84 inch reach, right? He just got to get better, Ocho. He's got. He's got to get better. Who knows? Maybe he's better suited at a guard. But if you're gonna play that, you got. You got to be that. You got to be that boy dog to stand on that island at left tackle.
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B
Yeah, that's the money spot.
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He's got to get better. They've got to get better up front, Ocho.