Best of Super Bowl LX Part 2: Will Campbell being SOFT, Uchenna Nwosu breaks down his Pick 6

Summary

Club Shay Shay - Best of Super Bowl LX Part 2

Host: Shannon Sharpe (Unk) with co-host Chad "Ocho" Johnson (Ocho)
Guest: Uchenna Nwosu (Seattle Seahawks linebacker)
Date: February 11, 2026

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Main Theme

This episode focuses on the fallout and highlight moments of Super Bowl LX, with spirited analysis of the record-breaking halftime performance, Seahawks’ dominant defense, and a deep-dive interview with Uchenna Nwosu about his pivotal pick-six. The hosts also discuss Will Campbell’s much-scrutinized postgame reaction, expectations for rookies under intense playoff pressure, and the ongoing evolution of the NFL as a global brand.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Super Bowl Halftime Show: Bad Bunny’s Record Performance

• Discussion kicks off with Ocho recapping Bad Bunny’s halftime show breaking all previous viewership records (135 million viewers), surpassing both Rihanna (123.4M, 2024) and Kendrick Lamar’s (133.5M, 2025) shows.

• Shannon Sharpe ("Unk") highlights the NFL’s strategic push for global cultural diversity, praising the league’s efforts to feature various musical genres and broaden the halftime show's appeal:

  “The NFL is trying to grow a consumer market outside just the United States. They want to grow globally. That is the only way... you continue to push the boundaries and include cultural diversity.” (Unk, 00:53)

• Discussion of backlash from some fans about the Spanish-language focus and the impossibility of pleasing everyone:

  “People are looking for reasons to get offended…You’re not going to please everybody.” (Ocho, 02:55)

• Memorable moment: Both hosts describe loving the authentic Puerto Rican visuals and the “vibe” of the performance, even for those not understanding the lyrics.

  • “Even if you don’t understand the words… you become one with the music.” (Ocho, 04:27)

2. NFL’s Global Aspirations vs. American Resistance

• Sharpe and Ocho analyze why the NFL focuses on international artists and how global sports like soccer and basketball compare.

• The conversation transitions to sociopolitical undertones of diversity, DEI, and opportunity.

  “No one has benefited more from DEI than white women in America. But we ain’t gonna have that discussion… one day we will.” (Ocho, 07:02)

• Series of metaphors about power dynamics:

  • “The hammer and the nail could never be a rivalry.”
  • “The tree will never have a great relationship with an ax.” (Ocho, 08:01–08:04)

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3. Interview with Uchenna Nwosu: Inside the Seahawks’ Super Bowl Defense

(Begins ~09:07)

A. Emotions After the Win

• Nwosu reflects on feeling unexpected emotional detachment despite winning:

  “Honestly, I’m not feeling how I thought I was gonna feel…The coaches have us wired to where every game is just another game… I just don’t feel like how I thought I would feel.” (Nwosu, 10:34–11:10)

B. Seahawks’ Defensive Gameplan & Execution

• Detailed breakdown of Seattle’s dominance:

  • Team’s preparation under Coach Mike, including intense study and communication.

  • The defense’s deliberate aim to be the best in the world and shut down New England’s offense:

    “We had our mindset made up: we’re not going to let these guys come out here and do what they did to other teams. We get after Drake, may, we kill their engine ... and we made sure we made that happen.” (Nwosu, 14:00–14:17)

• How they exploited weaknesses in the Patriots’ offensive line ("tilapia," i.e., "fish"):

  • “Instead of fish, we call it tilapia…From the center all the way to their left or right, we gotta take advantage of those.” (Nwosu, 16:11)

C. The Pick-Six Play

• Nwosu breaks down his momentous touchdown:

  • He describes the reaction as “just…reaction,” with no time even to celebrate.

  “Honestly, I didn’t even think. I just caught the ball and just took off running…look left and right, hope I ain’t get caught. No DB, I saw, was good. I was out of there.” (Nwosu, 17:07)

• Ocho presses him about a celebration; Nwosu says he usually “hits his squabble” (a dance), but everything was moving too fast.

D. Identity of the Seahawks Defense – “Dark Side” & “MOB”

• The new Seahawks crew dubs itself “the dark side” and “MOB” (“mission over BS”), distinguishing themselves from the Legion of Boom.
• Discussion of off-season mindset:
  • Nwosu emphasizes rest after the long season, followed by regrouping at OTAs to build team identity, camaraderie, and continued hunger.

4. Will Campbell’s Super Bowl Struggles and Media Reactions

• Ocho discusses rookie left tackle Will Campbell refusing media after a tough, emotional performance.

• Sharpe supports the decision, calling for empathy and reminding listeners of the human element:

  “If I don’t feel good after losing Super Bowl, I’m not talking…I’m emotionally unavailable at the moment.” (Unk, 25:03–25:21)

• Ocho asks whether media access should hinge on winning or losing—“so he only human if they lose?”

• The debate turns to professionalism, with Sharpe referencing players like Garrett Bolles owning their bad games and using them to fuel improvement.

  “You’re not always going to be up, but when you’re up you talk, and when you’re down you talk…You gotta own it. Just like Josh Allen says, ‘I cost my team.’ It’s a part of growing, of being a professional.” (Unk, 31:05)

• Both hosts agree Campbell will grow from this “rookie growing pain” and the scrutiny will fade as he improves.

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5. Super Bowl Food Prices and "Delicacies"

• Ocho and Unk riff on Super Bowl LX’s outrageous food prices: $180 “hammy burger”, $40 cocktails, $12 lemonades.
  • “You got to do like us—you take what you want to eat and drink in there with you.” (Unk, 52:15)
• Light-hearted back-and-forth about trying everything: from cow “hoo-ha” and cabbage to sheep eyeballs.
• Banter about frugality vs. Super Bowl splurging, and the immersive difference between suite and stands experiences.

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6. Coaching Rumors: Sean Payton & the Denver Broncos

• Rumblings about Payton potentially giving up play-calling to Davis Webb are dismissed by Sharpe:

  “Sean Payton’s claim to fame, right? Was calling plays…I just don’t see it happening. Not saying that it can’t. I just don’t see it.” (Ocho, 44:31–45:07)

• Emphasis on the difficulty veteran coaches have relinquishing control.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Cultural Inclusion and Music:

  “I grooved, the visual effects and the production was over the top. I love how [Bad Bunny] played to his heritage…the guys playing dominoes, the sugar cane, the snow cones...” (Ocho, 03:47–04:27)

• On Seattle's Defensive Scheme:

  “We kind of knew going into this week, we want to show we was going to be the best defense in the world—which we did.” (Nwosu, 14:00)

• On Professionalism and Loss:

  “You’re not always going to be up, but when you’re up, you talk. And when you’re down, you talk. And you know what, Ocho? I gotta be better. I wasn’t good today. I hurt my team.” (Unk, 31:05)

• On Facing Uncomfortable Situations:

  “I got used to being uncomfortable. Very comfortable being uncomfortable.” (Unk, 32:29)

• Super Bowl Food:

  “It’s a cheeseburger with a braised bone beef in a rib shank, roasted…$180. I mean, it looked good, but $180…” (Ocho, 49:23)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:07–04:31: Super Bowl halftime show, NFL’s global push, fan backlash
• 09:07–22:46: Interview with Uchenna Nwosu (Super Bowl emotions, defensive strategy, pick-six details)
• 22:46–32:51: Will Campbell’s media silence, rookie struggles, professionalism
• 44:03–48:41: Coaching play-calling duties at Broncos—Sean Payton vs. Davis Webb
• 48:41–54:02: Super Bowl food prices and stadium experience

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Summary Takeaway

This episode balances in-depth football analysis with the unique personalities of the hosts, making for an engaging mix of cultural commentary, candid locker room insights, and playful banter. Listeners walk away with an understanding of the NFL’s shifting landscape—on and off the field—and an inside look at both the euphoria and devastation players experience on the sport’s biggest stage.

Transcript

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Foreign.

[Ocho]

I guess people did. Many people didn't know. Boycott as we thought. Ocho. Bad Bunny delivered the most watched super bowl halftime show at all time. The show drew 135 million viewers, surpassing Kendrick's record Roc Nation super bowl viewership since he's taken over. And I, I guess that's 2020. He did 103 million in 2020. 96.7 in 2021. 103.4 in 22, 121. Brianna in 23, 123.4 and 24. Kendrick did 133.5 and 25. And coming over the top by almost 2 million views. Bad Bunny Bonito. Go ahead, Ojo.

[Unk]

Hey. Well, one thing, one thing I can say is a lot of people will complain. And the percentage of people that didn't enjoy, the percentage of people that didn't like it, the percentage of people that were think pieces and had huge dialogues on their displeasure with the halftime show and complaining about, oh, it was in Spanish. I didn't know what was going on. It's a very small percentage. It's a very small percentage. What people have to understand is that the NFL is trying to grow. They're trying to grow a consumer market outside of just the United States. They want to grow globally. That is the only way, growing globally, that you continue to push the boundaries include cultural diversity. And I think they're doing a really good job at it. And if you think about it, we've given a different halftime performer almost to every different genre of music. So whatever you do at this point, I think people still will not be happy. They're going to always complain about something. You will never be able to please everybody. So I like the direction that the NFL is going with the halftime shows and touching each and different genre of music and giving them their opportunity to have that big.

[Ocho]

And I think his interview on Apple Music is the most watched interview on that format. I think he did. He's 68 million and counting. But it's always funny, the people that boycott, but they didn't tell nobody to boycott them when they performed. I know a guy that talking about he had his own thing at another venue, but did you remember when he. Ain't nobody boycott. We ain't gonna get into that. Oh, let's not, let's not. Let's not do that. But you gonna talk about.

[Unk]

But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

Listening, listening at people. And they were talking about, we paid 5,000 a ticket and we paid this. And it's like I come to see Bonito, I ain't know. They call him Benito. I ain't know Benito Santiago. I didn't know. I didn't know that was. That was his name. Bad Bunny. But it's like we come to see Bonito, and they started speaking Spanish, and they were so excited. Yeah, they had on their team gear. They had on the Seahawks, and they had on the Patriots. They. Somebody. I think I saw somebody. His team wasn't even in it. He said, I came to see bad money. I came to see. But Nietzsche, right?

[Unk]

So. Right, right, right.

[Ocho]

At some point, I mean, you're not. You're not gonna please everybody. When they had Kendrick, he wasn't broad enough. When they had Usher, he got old songs. When they had Rihanna, where she showed up pregnant, they had Kendrick. I mean, they had Dr. Dre and Snoop and Mary J. You're not going to. Please. When you got almost 400 million people in the United States, you're going to offend someone. But you know why? Because people are looking for reasons to get offended.

[Unk]

Yes.

[Ocho]

Ocho. I don't like apples, okay? If I don't like apples, that. Just because I like something, that don't mean I hate something else.

[Unk]

If I.

[Ocho]

You like oranges, right? That don't mean you hate apples and bananas. That means you like. You like mango. That don't mean you hate watermelon and honeydew. But people get so offended, they're looking for a reason to get offended. Oh, this is an American sport.

[Unk]

This is.

[Ocho]

Okay, broaden the horizons. You like American food, but you be tearing up some Mexican food. You tear up Indian food, you tear up Jamaican food. Y' all need to stop this and stop looking for reasons to get offended. Like I said, I ain't no one word. I couldn't tell you what the song was, but I was grooving, and the visual effects and the production was over the top. Over the top. I love how he played to his heritage. Ocho. I love the guys playing dominoes. I love the sugar cane. I love the. The. The. The snow cones. I love. I love the ladies in the nail salon getting the hair done. I loved it.

[Unk]

Even if you don't understand the words, Unk, you become one with the music.

[Ocho]

I'm moving.

[Unk]

Sometimes you go to the club. Hey. Sometimes you go to the club. Unk. You can't even hear what's being. You can't even hear what's being played. But. But you become one with the music. It's easy to do. I think most of the people that were complaining, saying oh, my goodness. I don't understand what he's saying. Okay, if you don't understand what he's saying, just go and flow with the beat. It's about having rhythm. Maybe you don't. Maybe, hey, maybe you don't have rhythm. Maybe that's why they mad. Probably because if you got rhythm, all you do is you catch the beat and become one with the music and have fun. That kind of music is about a vibe you don't need to understand. When you travel to the doctor, when you travel to Spain, when you travel to Puerto Rico, when you travel to Brazil, you're not going to understand what they're saying. You're not going to understand the music, but you. You're not going to stand the words, but you become one with the music depending on where you are. And people need to understand what the NFL is trying to do globally, not just here. We want it to be one of the best sports to watch outside of the U.S. and we're competing with soccer, which is number one outside of the.

[Ocho]

U.S. well, soccer is the number one in the world because more the Europeans play it and more countries play it. Yes, African nation, European countries, of course they play soccer. Of really, they don't play a bear. And that's why basketball is so big globally, because there's the Slovenians and the Serbians and they got so many different people. But when in football, every once in a while, Ocho, you'll get like the gentleman we're going to bring on tonight. We'll get a few here and there that come from Cameroon or come from Nigeria, come from different countries, but not to the vast number that soccer. Not to the vast number. That's why baseball. They got the Puerto Ricans and they got the Dominicans and they got the, you know, the Nicaraguans and they got the Japanese with Shohei and these others, so. And the Panamania. Look, I. I've stopped. Look, I've stopped looking for things to get offended for. Unless you're speaking directly to me. I'm good.

[Unk]

Yeah. I mean, some people, miserable.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unk]

There's nothing you could do about it. It's. Some people are miserable, and you have to allow them to live their miserable lives where nothing anyone else does is going to make them happy. They're going to find something wrong. They're going to nitpick at something, and it's unfortunate. That's some of the times that we're in now where in 2026, you know, when we talk about cultural diversity, they don't want.

[Ocho]

They don't want culture diversity. They want what they want. They want them to stay here. Everybody else stays here. Your people.

[Unk]

And no one else gets opportunity.

[Ocho]

You should supersede yours. What? I want to supersede yours. So it ain't no diversity. I mean, look, and somehow, if somebody gets a job. Oh, they are dei. No one has benefited more from DEI than white women in America. But we ain't gonna have that discussion. We're not gonna have a real discussion.

[Unk]

We can't make it a political show. No, we can't. We can't do that. But they know we gotta keep. We gotta keep.

[Ocho]

But they know. Yeah, in colleges and title nine, you. They know affirmative action, who's benefited the most. But y' all ain't ready to have that real conversation. But one day we will. Yeah, but it's. It's. Look, you know, The hammer and the nail could never be a rivalry.

[Unk]

Wait a minute. Take your time. I know something good coming.

[Ocho]

Take your time. The nail and the hammer. How can they go back and forth when we know how it's gonna end? The tree will never have a great relationship with an ax. Okay, come on, man. We gonna move it along. But they know. Y' all wanna. Y'. All. How does the gazelle get down and have a conversation. Sit down and have a conversation with the lion or the cheetah? How we should. We should be able to sit down. Really. Okay. Okay. Okay.

[Unk]

Boy, you just. Hey, you just pulled some gems out of nowhere. You hear me?

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unk]

Hey, let me get. Let me get it. Let me get a paper towel.

[Ocho]

Yeah, we're gonna have a. We're gonna have a real. We're gonna have a real conversation. All right, we got a very, very special guest joining us. He had a pick six, took it to the house. Or cheddar wasn't the onesu. Did I get it right?

[Uchenna Nwosu]

But you got it right.

[Ocho]

I've been trying to say this thing all day because I'm like, hold on. I wonder if the end is silent. Then I had to go back and listen to the car, listen to the. The TV copy when Mike Tirico on the call, but he said the first name so damn fast. I like, well, damn, I get the nwosu, but what's the first name? So Achinawa Nwosu.

[Unk]

So, hey, you won before. You won before. So I need to take this moment so I can get a better. A better understanding of what it feels like. Uchenna. You finally won a Super Bowl, Unc. You won multiple Super Bowls. So you know what that feeling is already like for. You need to let me live vicariously through you and give me an explanation. We all come from different backgrounds. We all got to our end goal in different ways. What does it finally feel like to understand all the work you've put in whenever you started playing football to. You reach the promised land, the plateau, the highest of them all, the biggest game, and you finally win one. Let tell me what that feels like. As if I'm a little kid, because I done played 12, 13 something years, but I've never, ever had the opportunity to have that feeling that you having right now. So just. Just give it to me. Rawing up. My bad.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Unk]

My bad.

[Ocho]

We go rewind that. We gonna rewind that. Okay, we gonna play.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

I got.

[Unk]

I got. I got it. My bad, my bad. Just give it. Give it to me and give it to him.

[Ocho]

Straight.

[Unk]

Straight. Yeah, there you go. That's a good one. My bad.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Well, to be honest with you, man, like, honestly, I. I'm not feeling how I thought I was gonna feel. Just if I'm being honest with you, like, real. Yeah, it's like. I don't know. The coaches have us wired in a way to where, like, every game is just like another game, right? Going out there and play. That's truly how it felt. Like it was just another game to us. Like, we expect to win. We expect to go into every match. Like, you know, we're gonna dominate these guys. And, you know, when it was all said and done, it's like, okay, like, what's next? You know, we got another game. That's just how I felt. But I'm sure, like, once I see that.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

But right now, I don't know. I just don't feel like how I thought I would feel. I don't know. It's crazy.

[Ocho]

Yeah, that's funny. I mean, you're not the first guy that I. That. That I've heard say that. But I think the thing for. For me is that everything as an individual, like, okay, I want to make the Pro Bowl O. I want to lead the team, or I want to lead the league, or I want to be an All Pro. That's an individual goal, but only one team. You know, there are four guys that make the Pro bowl for. For wide receiver. There are three or three defensive linemen that make the Pro bowl as a D lineman, but there can only be one super bowl champ. That means for the year, you get the basket, all the glory. And you mentioned you said something very interesting. You, like the coach has us wired to that. We take one game at a time. And. And you like, okay, what's next? But this was the culmination. So going into the week, you're like, okay, you watching them on tape. Because the difference is, like, you know, you play a regular season game, you watch four games. You watch the last four games this team played. But when you watch this team, you watch everything. You go back from week one, you go to the playoffs, they sprinkle a little preseason in there. And so, yeah, you guys were locked in from the jump. I mean, yeah, I'm gonna throw that last quarter out because y' all didn't. And y'. All. Y' all like, okay, let's not get reckless or do anything like that. And they got some cheap yardage. He threw for the most yards in a single quarter than anybody in the history of the game, and the game was a blowout. So why. How were you guys so able to get locked in and just basically have a bead on everything they were doing.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Man? Shout out to Coach Mike, man. He. He's like a nerd when it comes to this football stuff, man. He's in the lab, man. He's studying hard. He's making sure we're in the right, you know, the right calls. He's preparing. He' assistant coaches, you know, making sure we know what's going on. We on the game plan. We studying every day. We watching film. We have about two, three, four meetings a day. We just so locked in. We're just communicating. We talking. And just the overall. Just. The whole team is just buying into what was going on, and we realized what was at stake. It was a Super bowl, so everybody was just locked in, man, we just had one mission and one goal. We accomplished it.

[Unk]

Yeah. Hey, with. With that goal to accomplish, did you expect to dominate the game the way you dominated it defensively? Because defensively, you guys won that game. Obviously, offensively, Kenneth Walker, keeping that balance when you need to throw you through. But because you ran the ball so well, simply you were able to control most of the game. Defensively, you watch, obviously, you're going in. You what? You watch film. You see how the Patriots look. You saw how they look in the playoffs. You see how they looked in the regular season, and you take bits and pieces of what you're going to get based on their tendencies. Dude, bro. You dominate the whole game to the point where some people are saying the game was a snooze fest, not understanding. No, this is. This is a defensive game. The defenses are controlling the game.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Yeah, they got a great defense over there. They got a lot of players over there. They're. They're. DB number zero. He was playing phenomenal. Milton Williams, they made. Made plays. Number 33, Jennings, he made plays. They was just making plays.

[Ocho]

But we knew. We.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

We kind of knew going into this week that, you know, we want to show that we was going to be the best defense in the world, which we did. And we had our mindset made up that we're not going to let these guys come out here and, you know, do what they did to all these other teams. We know we get after Drake, may we kill their engine, which is him. They got nothing left. And we made sure we made that happen.

[Ocho]

When I look at you guys on defense, you're not that complex. Y' all play. Y' all play quarters coverage. You keep the safeties back. And y', all, you say you're not running the football. And so we won't have to drop a safety down. Cause when I look. Yeah, you. You. You show something. Now. Y' all brought a lot of slot blisses. Spoon, you know, to see Spoon recovery. Yeah, y' all saw something on tape because y' all brought Spoon a little bit more than I'm used to seeing him. Not normally. That's a worry. He normally comes on, but this time he was back and Spoon was coming. What did y' all see to, like, you know what, we can catch him with the slot.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Yeah, you just gotta switch it up. You know, I'm sure they go back and they do their study. They see we bring Nick a lot with a lot of pressures. So Mike said, you know what? Guess what? We're gonna bring Spoon. And Spoon's a great blitzer.

[Ocho]

He quit really fast.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Spoon is fast, man. He can make lineman miss. He can juice. He can just get to the quarterback in a hurry.

[Ocho]

Same thing with Nick.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

And so Mike just saw that he switched it up. Nick's a great blitzer, but, you know, we switch it up with the Spoon, and he made play.

[Ocho]

He timed. He timed those blitzes perfect. Because when he's going, I mean, he hit it on a dead run. Every time when they snapped the ball, he was on a dead run. And it's hard because, like you said, they so small, big linemen used to keep blocking guys like yourself. And so when you get a DB and he doing all this right here, they got no chance. They got no chance. So.

[Unk]

Hey, hey, hey. One thing I want to say Utena did, Coach, without you being disrespectful, to your opponents. Did coach. Most of the time, you're going to a game plan. Going game plan. You're going to a game. Most of the time, you want to recognize who the fish is, and you draw a circle around the fish's head. The fish is the weak link. Obviously, you have five people on the offensive line, but there's always one weak link. Based on the game we saw, it was three fish, and it started from the center going all the way to the left. Was it. Was that addressed before the game started based on what you saw from their officer line play throughout the week?

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Absolutely. But instead of fish, we call it tilapia. So we knew from the center all the way to the. To their. Their left or right, you know, the right rookies, we gotta. We gotta take advantage of those, right?

[Unk]

Okay, sure.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Down the road, they'll be, you know, good players. They'll develop. But going into this game, we couldn't let that slide. We have to get out.

[Ocho]

And the thing, when you get a fish, you don't let him off the hook. And I saw, because they ended up putting D Law. D Law normally rushes on the offensive officer right side, the defensive left side, they like D. Long said, let me get some of this, man. Y' all over there eating, don't even invite me. Let me get a piece of this young fella.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

When Spoon came on that blitz and you were right there because they made the mistake because Spoon got through, the guy blocked. You and Spoon just closed so quick because he was getting ready to throw, and you were Johnny on the spot. So when you see Spoon hit his arm and the ball's up in there, what's going through your mind?

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Man, I just reacted. Honestly, I didn't even think. I just caught the ball and just took off running. Look left and right, hope I ain't get caught. No DB I saw was good. I was out of there.

[Ocho]

Yeah. I mean, you gotta think, hey, did.

[Unk]

It feel like he was running? Oh, I was gonna say, did it feel like he was running in slow motion, like you running a quicksand even though nobody was around you? Yeah.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

It's weird because that was my first time, like, being in that position, like, catching up, like, you receive it. You guys do it all the time, but me, I'm like, oh, okay, this is how it is. Let me just go ahead and not.

[Ocho]

Fall, run out of bounds.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Let me not do something, man.

[Ocho]

You ain't have no celebration set up. I mean, you gotta have a celebration. Like, man, if I get a scooping score, I get a pick six. I get something, I gotta do something. You ain't have nothing planned?

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Well, being from Los Angeles, I usually hit my squabble. I'm sure you guys heard that before. The squabble.

[Unk]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Things were just moving so fast. Me, I was like, man, let me just celebrate with my teammates and just, you know, because we got to go back on defense again.

[Ocho]

So you guys, look, I. I was. I was thinking, like, man, they might not score. This might be a situation. So at cuz first half, nothing. Third, I mean, basically through three quarters. And then did it dawn on you at any point in time, say, you know what, man, we might shut these guys out. Hey, guys, man, let's see if we can p this shut out.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Yeah, that's exactly what we're saying on sidelines like, yo, keep that goose egg up there. Don't let them score. Don't let them score. You know, they. They was able to move down the field. They got that bomb on to Mac, to Mac Hollins, and they got that scramble pass to Stevenson, coming out on the goal line area. But we tried, man, we really tried to push that shutout. That would have been a great accomplishment in Super Bowl.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Plus, when you think about Seattle, obviously, the Legion of Boom, you know, you got Sherm and you got Earl Thomas and you got those guys, B wags, you got that. But you guys have est establishing a Danny on your own. Yeah, everybody's gonna remember historic defense. They will get remembered. But you started something on your guys own. You call you guys up. What's this mob? The.

[Unk]

The dark side, huh?

[Uchenna Nwosu]

The dark side. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Dark side.

[Unk]

I'm a part of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

That's just something that we just try to bring, you know, our own identity. Of course, we respect the Legion of Boom and what they've done, so we've kind of try to you know, integrate our own way of life, our own thing. Mob, which stands for mission over bs, came up with. And it's something that stuck. It's like our creed, something that we live by. And the dark side is just something that the defense is just incorporated into something we just built on.

[Ocho]

I look at you guys, get Ernest Jones. Ernest Jones was traded like twice in a single season. You get Big Leonard Williams, yourself. You come over from the Chargers.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

When you look at this team and how you guys d law came over in free agency, and you look at how this team is constructed, you guys are built. You guys are built that it doesn't guarantee you because you Know, every year is different because we said the same thing about the Eagles, that the Eagles are gonna be back, and, boy, look out there. Blah, yada, yada. It's gonna be different because everybody's gonna break you guys down. It's like, okay, look, they like to keep them safeties back. We've got to run the football. So it's going to be a different year. But the guys, the way you're constructed, you guys are built to last. You got a young football team, you got a hungry coach, and I think you got a group of hungry young men. What's your mindset going into the off season? Because I'm sure you need some time away. It's been a grind for five months, six months, it's been a grind. You want to get away from it, but when will you start getting in back into it? And when will you start, like, okay, start getting into the group chat, start talking to guys. Okay, what's the plan for next season?

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Yeah, like you said, you definitely want to get away. It's been a long season. This is my first time playing this long. It's everybody's first time, really playing this long, except for a couple guys, Coop and ej, but definitely relax, get our bodies right. And it starts with OTAs, because that's where it started for us last year. You know, we made up that. That identity that we want to start in OTAs and build who we are, start that brotherhood, that, that creed, that togetherness, that camaraderie that we build. All starts and OTAs, off season workouts, everybody showing up, being there for each other, and that's where we start to build this thing for next year.

[Ocho]

He had an unbelievable game. Zach Pick took it to the house, got so excited, forgot a celebration. World champion Seattle Seahawks or channel nwosu. Enjoy it. That ring is going to be something crazy because it seems like every year the goal is the top from the previous year. You saw what the Eagles look back. I'm sure Jason Beverly Hills is on speed dial, because I know the fact. Hey, dog. Ring might be this side, right? It might be. I don't know. I don't know if you're gonna be able to lift your hand, hold that big old piece of rock.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

I got a question, though.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Yellow gold or white diamonds?

[Unk]

White. White is clean.

[Ocho]

It's something about that white. It's something about that white gold, man.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Okay. We was deciding that as other leaders on this, on the team, what we should go with. But I'm gonna go by y'.

[Ocho]

All.

[Unk]

Yeah, yeah. That, that white gonna be beautiful. Listen, I never won a ring as someone as that's somewhat of a jewel, a jewelry connoisseur. It's gonna, it's gonna stand out.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Sure.

[Ocho]

Well, congratulations, man. And enjoy it. If you get an opportunity. Well, they probably. Your guys are probably always. You guys are back in Seattle now, right? Yep.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Y' all got back this morning.

[Ocho]

Did you have an exit? Did you have an exit today or is it tomorrow? Okay. All right. If you get an opportunity to see ej, tell him to come back and join us because he told us he win the bowl, he's gonna come back. So we expect him to come back for sure.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

I'll let him.

[Ocho]

I appreciate it, man. Congratulations. Great job, great season, continue success. My brother. Will Campbell declined to speak to the media after their brutal super bowl performance. Patriots reporter Mark Daniels tweeted. I asked Will Campbell to talk. He declined. Last night he had tears in his eyes. I get that part of the job. I get that part of the job is to talk to the media, but also understands the human element of this tough situation for a rookie. And overall, I thought he was good to the media this year. And to be honest, I've seen a number of Patriot veterans, including captains, who have refused to talk over the years after regular season losses. So it's tough for me to criticize the rookie who had a tough game in the super bowl for not wanting to talk while crying. Oo you agree?

[Unk]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, I think reporters, obviously, they have a job to do, but also understanding the human, the human nature and losing a game like that and having to talk to players, you know, right after the game ends and understanding what it means to even reach, you know, a game of this magnitude and lose it with all the work that you put in, you know, some reporters understanding, you know, what players are going through and, and allowing them to be able to express themselves if they want to talk or if they don't and have an understanding of that. I know you want to get, you want to get your answers, you know, your questions answered, but I think it's cool, you know, that they understood this moment and some reporters probably wouldn't. I mean, I don't see how you couldn't, you know, be that rude and that. And lack self awareness on why a player couldn't answer any questions you might want to. Want to have answered after.

[Ocho]

Let me ask you a question. If they win this game, you think he declining to talk? So is it so he only human if they lose? Is he not Human. If they win.

[Unk]

So you want to. You want him to sit there and have a conversation when he's crying, knowing they just lost?

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Super.

[Ocho]

It happens. We've seen it. We saw Josh Allen do it. Did we not just see Josh Allen cry?

[Unk]

Yeah, and we saw mean. Because he's a quarterback. We saw mean. No, no, I don't agree with you. If I don't feel. If I don't feel good after losing Super Bowl, I'm not talking.

[Ocho]

No, but I want to hear you talking. When you win. When you win, I want to see you talk.

[Unk]

Let me finish.

[Ocho]

Let me.

[Unk]

Let me finish. That's two different. That's two different situations. If I win, I'm happy. Of course I want to talk. If I lose the super bowl and our season is over and I'm. I'm not feeling. I'm emotionally. I'm emotionally unavailable at that moment.

[Ocho]

So he's the first. So let me.

[Unk]

I'm emotionally unavailable at that moment, and I don't want to talk.

[Ocho]

He's the first offensive lineman to give up a slack in the Super Bowl. So what about those linemen from Carolina that let Von Miller and. And DeMarcus and DeMarcus Ware beat them all game?

[Unk]

Oh, when they played the Broncos.

[Ocho]

No, no, no, no. That's. That's a part of it. Ocho, being a professional. Win, lose a draw.

[Unk]

Man. Listen, we not gonna use that professional word as a crutch. Every time a situation comes up when a player doesn't want to talk because he's emotionally damaged and he just can't.

[Ocho]

That's a part of it.

[Unk]

Ocho. Hold on, hold on. He's crying. He's crying hysterically in front of the camera. Like, who wants to see that? I don't want to see that. If you can't control yourself and you're crying because you're hurt, you know, I don't answer the question.

[Ocho]

Element of should hurt.

[Unk]

So you wanted.

[Ocho]

You lost and you didn't play well.

[Unk]

Oh, so, okay, we thought it didn't play well. So. Also wanted to talk because he didn't play well. So he's hurt. He didn't play well, and he's crying. So you want him to not only play bad, but you want more embarrassment with him crying in front of the damn camera.

[Ocho]

That's the human element of it.

[Unk]

No, you wanted to be. No, that's performative. That's what it sounds like.

[Ocho]

So in other words, you say he was performing, so he wasn't really hurt. He was just play. Play crying.

[Unk]

That's tr. You want him to stand there crying after playing bad just to say, oh, no, because everybody gonna pile on him. You cry, baby. You shouldn't be crying because you played.

[Ocho]

No, you should. Because if you. The more you invest in something, the more it's gonna hurt. It should hurt. I'd have been upset if he wasn't crying.

[Unk]

You see what I mean?

[Ocho]

Ocho. Ocho, he got his ass kicked every playoff game. He got his ass kicked against the Texans. He got his ass kicked against the Broncos. He got his ass kicked last night.

[Unk]

You see what I. Now you see why he ain't going for that goddamn camera. He be getting his ass whipped all goddamn post.

[Ocho]

Yes. So what's new? What, what's this time? This ain't the first ass cook he took.

[Unk]

Oh, man, you got to understand, it took a toll on him, continuously losing like that.

[Ocho]

You know, he could have done something about it.

[Unk]

Oh, my God.

[Ocho]

Could he have done something about.

[Unk]

I mean, probably not. Because at that point, if you're already getting your ass toe up in the PO in, in the postseason, once you get to the biggest stage, the biggest game, and you playing against that defense, that front four, your top five.

[Ocho]

And I'll give. Look, I get. And they say, well, he got hurt.

[Unk]

He's a, he's a, he's a rookie. He's a rookie. Yeah, you, yeah, you top five against those that you played at. Played against in college. But it's grown men down here, man. Ocho, a grown man.

[Ocho]

Growing pains. I give you a prime example. Go back and look at Garrett Bowles. Garrett Bowles got his ass kicked. For years they tried to run him out of town, turned himself into an all pro. Because you know what? He get his ass kicked. He got holding calls, he got false starts, he got beat. But every, every time he step up to the mic, I gotta play better, guys. Yeah. Now he's the first team all pro. Now he's a premier left tackle in all of football. That's a part of it, Ocho. You've dropped passes, you've had mistakes. I mean, just think about it. When you had your worst game, did you never not talk to the media?

[Unk]

No, I, you know, I love to talk. Win, lose a draw. You, you, you're going to get something out of me no matter what. Everybody's not built like that. I understand being a pro like you said, but most of the time, especially a young player like that, a rookie, obviously, coming off bad performances back to back to back to back against really good defenses. And.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

It'S tough.

[Unk]

It's tough because now you expose and everything's magnified on the biggest stage, on how bad you've actually been. Now, they've been rumbling. There've been rumblings about the officer line being bad, but you didn't see it because it wasn't magnified yet because you kept winning. But obviously the biggest stage, the world is watching. And then you go get your ass whooped consistently for four quarters. That hurts. That hurts. So I kind of understand, especially with being a young player, but, I mean, listen, growing pains. You'll learn from this. You'll get better from this. You were a top five pick for a reason. And I'm sure, listen, you got to get a little stronger. Got to get a little stronger. Especially the allowing. Allowing grown men to move you against your will when you're already anchored down. Nah, that. That, that. That. That can't happen. That can't happen. I don't know who your strengthening and conditioning coach is, but. Oh, that absolutely cannot happen.

[Ocho]

He. He. He definitely gonna have to get in the weight room. His sets, he give him the edge far too easily. And maybe it was his left leg. But my thing is, Ocho and somebody. I tweeted, I tweeted. Somebody responded to my. He was injured. Well, you don't get credit.

[Unk]

He was injured. Everybody's injured in the Super Bowl.

[Ocho]

That's the case, Ocho. You don't get credit for being injured and getting your ass kicked. You only get credit for being injured if you play well. That's the whole purpose. Or sit your ass down. That's the whole point. Nobody's mentioning. If Jordan doesn't play well in the flu game, what was so special about the flu game? Ocho. He had the flu and he flew. Flu poisoning. And he did what he did, right? We're not mentioning this. Kobe with the sprained ankle when he stepped on Jalen Rose. Well, okay, maybe J. Rose slid up under. But if Kobe doesn't play well, we're not having these conversations, right? I. I'm just old school. You ain't gonna always be up. But when you're up, you talk. And when you're down, you talk. And you know what, Ocho? I gotta be better. I wasn't good today. I hurt my team tonight. I cost him. I'm gonna own this. Just like Josh Allen say, I cost my team. Me my mistakes. You gotta do it. It's a part of growing. It's a part of growth. It's a part of my being a professional. You and I. Yeah. We love to talk, but don't think it's just because you love to talk. That thing get easy when you done mumped up.

[Unk]

Oh, no. Oh, yeah. It get hard now. It get hard. It get hard. I haven't been there. You got another thing. You won way more than I have consistently. So I had to do all my talking most of the time on the losing end. So I was very comfortable being uncomfortable. I got used to that. Got very, very used to being uncomfortable.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Will Campbell just allowed the most precious 14 in the playoff game since 2018. His 29 pressures follow in a single season. Postseason is the most ever recorded by next gen stats. First round pick. The Patriots terrified Campbell is a bus. No, I don't think he's a bus because he was playing really good. And I don't think arms have anything to do with it. I just think the thing is, is that he needs to get with some really good offensive tackles. Call Big Willie. Call Andrew Whitworth. Call some of the better tackles that are that. And we went to lsu, so I'm sure Whit ain't got no problem helping him.

[Unk]

Right? But also most of the time, too, when you. When you want to learn from someone that plays your same position, you most. You want to learn from people with your same body type, with your same playing style, you know, because if you go to Big Willie, if you go to Big wit, hell, you talk about Big Willy. Six, six, six, seven. You go to Big Wit. Big Wit six, six, six, six.

[Ocho]

Ocho.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Yes.

[Unk]

But he's how. He's six six with T. Rex.

[Ocho]

Are you.

[Unk]

Are you sure he's six six? Are you sure he's six six, hold on now. They got that. They got to have the measurements wrong because there's no way you. Hell, if you six six, your alarms have. Your arms have to be long in general.

[Ocho]

Not necessarily.

[Unk]

That. Don't even say. Now I'm thinking maybe, you know, he was a little on the shorter side if he had short arms. Most of the time that's almost reserved for those that are, you know, 6ft.

[Ocho]

6 one, 320 pounds with short arms.

[Unk]

Oh, hell no. Okay, well, I understand. Well, listen, he. Well, how's he gonna punch if you got short arms?

[Ocho]

Problem? He. He ain't got no his punch. Cause like I said, oo. He has a problem with speed guys. And a lot of guys have with speed guys, but guys that can turn speed to power so they look like they're gonna bend. Bend it and then they bull you and they.

[Unk]

When he sat down Right over him.

[Ocho]

They go right over the top of.

[Unk]

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Big Willie would be able to help with that.

[Ocho]

Go, go to wit with two.

[Unk]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Ocho]

Because you, you play with wit, right?

[Unk]

Yeah. Whit was with me in Cincinnati.

[Ocho]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Unk]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

But I mean, some, everybody doesn't have, like, long arms. If, if you look at, like most athletes. If you look at like us, Ocho, we got short torsos, long legs.

[Unk]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

You see the way we built you? Same way. From, from, from my, from my waist to my head about this. And then I got long ass, leg and long ass off.

[Unk]

Yeah, right.

[Ocho]

But that's, that's the way most athletes are built.

[Unk]

Right?

[Ocho]

It's just. Man, look, it's tough, Ocho, because like you said, you're on the biggest stage, 130/something million people watching every. Everybody, Everybody will remember this until you get that taste out of their mouth.

[Unk]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

That'S it. I mean, it ain't no secret, Ocho. If you drop a pass, you make a mistake. Until you atone for that, ain't letting that go, Ocho. Tell the chat about your week in San Francisco. How did your live streams go? Oh, my goodness.

[Unk]

Chat. For those of you that don't know, I'm on Twitch for gaming. But this week in San Francisco, I decided to explore the city, see what San Francisco had to offer. See some of the hills, Golden Gate Bridge. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. I loved it. The people were very receptive. My favorite part about San Francisco, and for those of you, I don't know if you're in the chat, but if you ever come to San Francisco, Unc, I told you about Mini Bale soul food restaurant. I'm not sure what area it's in.

[Ocho]

I missed it.

[Unk]

Yeah. Many, many bells. I've never, I, I, you know, I love soul food. I travel all over the world. I, I try all type of different cuisines, you know.

[Ocho]

Well, good. I can't wait. You get on these bull dick and onions that we got whipped up for you in a couple of weeks. Bull dick and onions? Yep.

[Unk]

Time out, Paul.

[Ocho]

Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. We gotta find a lady. Ash done found a lady can cook it. We don't find good lady. Could also cook cotton cabbage. Yep, you heard me.

[Unk]

Cabbage with what?

[Ocho]

Cow. Hoo ha and cabbage.

[Unk]

You talk about like the ass.

[Ocho]

Cow, hoo ha and cabbage.

[Unk]

Are you talking about like.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. You was like, hold on, Chat. This man just said he like to go different places, try different cuisines. Now, all of a sudden.

[Unk]

Yeah, but I'm saying just by the names of some of the things that you're saying, those don't sound like delicacies. I like going to places.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unk]

Never heard of it. Never. Never heard the chat. Heard of it either.

[Ocho]

I'm telling you what you think I've been doing. I've been. I've been trying to. I've been locating all these places, and they have no problem accommodating you and.

[Unk]

I. Oh, oh, so you're gonna eat it?

[Ocho]

Yes.

[Unk]

Okay. Well, if you're gonna do it too, I ain't got no problem as long. Long as you. Yeah, as long as you ain't no problem with it. Yes, I'm willing to try anything.

[Ocho]

Sheep eyeballs and everything. Yes.

[Unk]

Oh, hey, hey. Little salt and pepper. I ain't wrong with that. Yeah, you listen. Sometimes, hypothetically speaking, if you were stranded on the goddamn island, like goddamn. Like Tom Hanks and Castaway, you had no choice but to eat what they offering us to eat. You gonna eat it, right? So I'm just putting. Mentally, I'm putting myself in the mindset of this is all I have to eat. So I had no. I can't wait.

[Ocho]

You see that thing on the plate? Them onions spread that thing come out there simmering. That's that steam coming up off it.

[Unk]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, as long as it got a little seasoning.

[Ocho]

But you still know what it is.

[Unk]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Just like when you put. When you throw that dollar whipped cream, it's still the same thing.

[Unk]

That's fine. Hey, it makes it. They have a little range for me too. Now.

[Ocho]

You got to get the flavor. I don't want you tasting ranch. I want you tasting the meat.

[Unk]

Nah, don't. Don't do that. But don't. Don't. Don't do that.

[Ocho]

If.

[Unk]

If I'm gonna taste something, allow me to enjoy it by having seasoning.

[Ocho]

It's gonna be seasoned. They cook it in season. They're cooking in garlic. They cooking the onion. They got all the bell peppers. Yes, yes.

[Unk]

Yeah, I like that. Yeah. Okay. I might need to add a little.

[Ocho]

Bit because I know what you're trying to.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Listen.

[Ocho]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Listen.

[Unk]

My palette. Your palate is a little bit different. My taste buzzing your taste buds.

[Ocho]

I want you to. Hey, bud. I want you to taste that. That cow hoo ha and cabbage. That what I want you to do, bud. Yeah, yeah.

[Unk]

I'm gonna taste it. All right. You know, hey, hey, hey. I ain't got no problem now, you know they used to call me back in the day.

[Ocho]

Yeah. And guess what? Won't cost you a thing. You won't have to pay no her. $80. No.

[Unk]

Okay, okay.

[Ocho]

But we got some delicacy coming. Chad. I can't wait. Do y' all see old oj?

[Unk]

I'm ready. I'm ready.

[Ocho]

I'm ready. Come on up, man, we ain't got to do this. I can see him now.

[Unk]

I'm telling you, boy. Man, what? You know I don't play now. Especially when it comes to eating something. I don't play.

[Ocho]

Yeah, we all look, we. Oh, hey, everything we eat everything. Chicken feet. We eat all of it. Yeah, pig ear. The pig ear sandwich. I know you eat the piggy sandwich. Ain't nothing. All you gotta do is add a little mustard on it.

[Unk]

Big ears, pig feet, pig tongue, man, ain't nothing. You know, you gotta challenge me. Challenge me.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Unk]

Pull a fish out the water. Let's eat him without cooking him.

[Ocho]

Me and my brother, we used to catch fish and bite the head off when we younger.

[Unk]

Yeah, yeah, that's me.

[Ocho]

But I, I. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Nah, it's go for me to eat it, it's gonna be. Need to be cooked.

[Unk]

Okay, okay. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Even if it ain't nothing but steamed, you know what I mean?

[Unk]

Yes, sir. Come on.

[Ocho]

I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

[Unk]

I'm picking up what you're putting down.

[Ocho]

Oh, yo, we saw you line up against Coach Prime. Who won that?

[Unk]

You know who won that, man. You know, 10 toes against eight, man. You know who won that? Hey, once I. Once I get it. Once I put that coffee up. You know what time it was?

[Ocho]

Any.

[Unk]

Watching, watching, watching, watching, watching. Oh, he done. He done already. You know why he done. Because he too low.

[Ocho]

He gonna stab. He gonna stab with that lip because people. People.

[Unk]

Miss. All right, I'm gonna dip right up under that. I'm gonna dip a shoulder. I' ma pick one side. I'm a dip low. And when he stab, he gonna miss. And him stabbing and missing and gonna push me forward anyway. Hey, man, anytime I see prime chat, y' all know, we gonna. We could be at church, we could be at a funeral. It don't matter where we at, you know, every time we lining up, it don't matter. Man, it's always good to see prime, man. He was in good spirits. Good to see it moving around like that again.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Considering what he had gone through earlier this year. Yeah. I mean, Last year. Excuse me.

[Unk]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

To see him out there like that. Yeah, it's. He's.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

He.

[Ocho]

He. He seemed like prime. Yeah, absolutely seemed like prime.

[Unk]

Saw Pac man. Saw Dead. I saw Desi Banks. I talked to Drew, I talked to dress. I said, yeah. I say, hey, man, they ate them. The church people on top of you, man. How you feel? Everything good? He said, yeah, yeah, Ocho. But the people got to understand I'm creating content, and I have to pull it from somewhere. I'm in it from somewhere, so I'm not. Why y' all mad at me? And, and you're the inspiration to it.

[Ocho]

Yeah, y' all mad at me, but y' all study giving that man. Y' all study giving that man. He studied buying Rolls Royces and Bentleys and, and living in mansions and you gotta worry about. I show whole show. Hope I'm able to pay this light bill this month, but y' all mad at a comedian.

[Unk]

Yeah, I enjoyed it. I. I enjoyed the entire week. I enjoyed the entire week.

[Ocho]

That was. It was Ocho. Several people around the league believe Sean Payton, head coach of the Denver Broncos, will eventually give up play calling duties to OC Davis Webb, per Jeremy Fowler. It wouldn't be shocking if that happened. Boy, I want to see that day. Yeah, I want to see that day.

[Unk]

You don't, you don't think. You believe his dudes stuck in his ways?

[Ocho]

I do not. Sean Payton, claim to fame, right? Was calling plays?

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Yes, sir.

[Ocho]

He called the plays. And Giants, when they, when we beat him in the Super bowl in 2000, called the Plays on coach parcels in Dallas. He called plays all that time in New Orleans and he called the plays. I. I just don't see it happen. I'm not saying that it can't happen. I just said I don't see it happening.

[Unk]

Does Mr. Wells have any experience calling plays?

[Ocho]

He got promoted. He was the quarterback's coach. And they fired Pete Carmichael and elevated him. Oh, you know, basically, Pete Carmichael got, You know, he got blamed for the call that Sean Payton made. So. No, I. I just don't see it. I don't see it. And I. I think the thing is he kind of want to get back in that situation and, and to get a do over, because he knows it. I mean, when he lays it, he laid his head on that pillow down that Saturday night. He know he effed up. Yeah, we don't. We don't have to. We don't have to belabor the point, but we will. Cause he effed up. Yeah, but this is what happens this. And, and hopefully Davis Webb comes in and does a great job. I mean, hey, I'm not. I'm not. Look, I would have loved to see the Broncos, but it's not like the Broncos can run the football either. So it had been very difficult. I. I think the thing is the Broncos can get after the quarterback, so it might have been a sack fest, right? I mean, you might have had 4, 13, 14 sacks between the two teams because both teams can get off the rock.

[Unk]

But even with that, let's say the Broncos were in the position tonight. I mean, you still give the edge to the Seahawks.

[Ocho]

I agree. I'm. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna fight you on that, Ocho. I'm not gonna fight you on that. But just like it's hard for them old guys. I mean, if you think about it, coach. Coach Landry called plays for the best for the better part of his whole time when he was in. In Dallas, right? So basically from 1960 until 19, what, 88. Damn. So 29 years. It's just. It's just hard, Ocho, when those guys have been calling to give up that kind of control, because that's what you do. You give enough control, then you get mad. Should have run it here, should have threw it there. Just like, why don't you call the plays then?

[Unk]

Right?

[Ocho]

And so I don't see it happening. You know, Jeremy Fowler seemed to think that it could happen, but I just don't see it. I don't.

[Unk]

I don't got to come from somewhere.

[Ocho]

Yeah. And the thing is, Ocho, is that, you know, you might say that now because guess what? Ain't nobody calling no play. The last play got called tonight, including Clint Kubiak for the Seahawks and Josh McDaniel for the Patriots. So there'll be no plays, no significant plays called until September. We'll see then, right? We'll see if Sean Payton have that. That big ass board and we'll. If you don't have the board, Davis Webb calling the plays on the place. If he has the board. Davis Webb's not calling plays.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Right?

[Ocho]

So it's. It's interesting to see what, what the Broncos are going to do next year. How about this, Ocho? Food prices and beer have been released for Super Bowl 60 at Levi's Stadium. The most expensive burger on the menu was a hammy burger for $180. It's a cheeseburger with a braised bone beef in a rib shank, roasted. My. I don't know Demi glazed something. And point Red's blue cheese fondue on a baked brioche bun. I mean, it looked good, but $180.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

The super bowl, what they gotta do.

[Unk]

With no show, you understand, There's a markup. There's a markup. They have to be able to make their money. I mean, it's hot.

[Ocho]

180, Ocho.

[Unk]

It's the times we in today. I mean, you don't have no problem paying. You don't have no problem paying the price. When you go to Chris Ruth, you don't complain about their prices.

[Ocho]

Nah, they ain't got no 189. They ain't got no $180 burger.

[Unk]

I'm just saying. But it's a little, it's a little pricey, it's a little expensive, and I get it.

[Ocho]

Yes, they have some, some chefs and world renowned chefs preparing some of this stuff, but. Damn right.

[Unk]

Yeah. And you know, probably if you're a foodie, if you're a content creator, I think spending $180 to test this and film it and create content, I think that would be a great choice if that is something that you would want to do. I kind of get it. 180 bucks. Super bowl experience is a one time thing. I can see somebody and I'm sure somebody did it. You know, somebody that creates content. I'm sure they bought it. I'm sure they ate it.

[Ocho]

I would like to try.

[Unk]

Well, it's too late now.

[Ocho]

No, I'm sure somebody gonna make it. I'm sure somebody got that make it somewhere, right?

[Unk]

I mean, that, that is a lot for a burger though, huh? 180 bucks.

[Ocho]

He has a lot of damn money.

[Unk]

Yeah, it look like three burgers in one. Three patties. Three patties.

[Ocho]

It ain't no patty. It is not no patties. Oo. You do realize what it is, right? What?

[Unk]

Okay, maybe I'm. I must have missed something. You said it was a burger, right?

[Ocho]

That's what they call it, right? Well, I mean, theoretically, I guess if you, you look at it, Ocho, because it's beef, but. Yes, sir, I'm looking at that thing like a, like that big ass bone, that big old Fred Flintstone brontosaurus bone hanging out the top of it.

[Unk]

Hey.

[Ocho]

It do look good though, Chad. That burger do look good on it now.

[Unk]

Yeah, Yeah. A little Swiss cheese coming, you know, dripping down the side. It look good.

[Ocho]

It look good. And I like brioche. Like who that bun. Brioche. Yeah.

[Unk]

I'm not.

[Ocho]

What y' all pay. Chad, how much that burger wore? I mean, I think 50, 60 might be good. 180. Oh, hell, yeah.

[Unk]

Yeah. You know, it's simply because of the. The.

[Ocho]

The.

[Unk]

The.

[Ocho]

The.

[Unk]

The festival, okay. Because of the Super Bowl. That's why I was marked up so high.

[Ocho]

Ocho Ultra premium cocktails would run you $40. Lemonade was $12. Okay.

[Unk]

That sounded like.

[Ocho]

See, Ocho. That's why I go to the game. I try to get a burger. A burger, some fries, and lemonade. That's 300.

[Unk]

Well, you got. You. You got to do like us. You know how our people are. We take what we want to eat and drink in there with us. You take it in with you. When you go to the movies, you don't want to buy snacks. If you got your girl, you can. Depending on what I'm gonna be on the.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

Depending on her cup size, I'm gonna.

[Ocho]

Be on the sweet eating that food. Oh, I would be there. That's what I'll be eating. They have some pretty good. They have some pretty good food, depending on whose suite you go to, okay.

[Unk]

Oh, you gonna sit in the suite. I don't like sitting in the sweet. Huh? I like sitting amongst the people so I can. So I can be a part of the game.

[Ocho]

I am. That's sitting in the suite. I'm a part of the game. We all in the stadium.

[Unk]

It ain't the same, Monk. It ain't the same. I'm good. It ain't. It's not the same. Like when I take you to a World cup game. We sitting in the sweet. So you can get. No, we are sitting in the stand so you can get the full experience of being at a. A soccer match, a football game.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

You got.

[Unk]

You got to get the true. You can't get the true experience in a goddamn suite. That's for them famous people, man.

[Ocho]

They need to get me. I need something a little bit more.

[Unk]

So.

[Ocho]

180, 240. So 180. 220. Plus fries. Probably 15 for fries, plus some candy. Yeah.

[Uchenna Nwosu]

300.

[Ocho]

Nah, hell no. After. You don't play well, I guess. Oh, Joe. They looking at it like, look, you don't pay. At bare minimum, you paid $3,000 just to get in. So what's another 300? Some people pay 5, 10, $15,000 a ticket. So when you pay that, they're like, what the hell you complaining about? For another $300?

[Unk]

Exactly. Right? They understand the target audience.

[Ocho]

Yeah, well, at those prices, ain't nobody really complaining Ocho. I mean you can complain all you want to but it's gonna be hard for you to not eat anything for four hours. And I don't know K I ain't never, I'm trying to think. Have I ever seen somebody tailgate at a super bowl? I don't know if I haven't seen that.

[Unk]

I don't even think the price was so high. I don't think anybody paying to get in the super bowl.

[Ocho]

I agree. So guess what if you hungry you gonna eat what they gonna eat and you go pay them high ass prices. Yeah. So I guess you, I, I guess you stuck but that do look good. Hey find out where we can get that from. I want to try it Ocho. We can cut it in half. So we cut right down that bone. You get half, I get half.

[Unk]

Okay. I like that. I like that.

[Ocho]

Sa.